avatar-help

[pastel night]

i hate unity idk why my avi suddenly got stuck in cycling pose, not previewing an animation or anything ;-;

[raven orbit]

https://github.com/rurre/PumkinsAvatarTools pumpkins tools can reset the pose

[frosty grove]

.... this happened when i tried exporting my model to uhh
fbx

[raven orbit]

ngl im kind of lost then, if it doesn't work after renaming the object and reimporting it then i dont know what the issue is, i dont know unity as well as blender

[stuck oxide]

its alri, thanks for trying though

[pastel night]

ty<3

[raven orbit]

looks like a bug in 4.3 https://projects.blender.org/blender/blender/issues/130705 but do you really need to export the fbx with a light?

[frosty grove]

idk because i didn't intend to put the light there in the first place

but i'll remove it if its the main cause

[raven orbit]

yeah, that should fix it

[frosty grove]

it fixed :D

[raven orbit]

for future reference, you can export an fbx without including every object in a scene by selecting only what you want to export and pressing "selected objects only" in the fbx export settings

[stark vault]

Real quick, could someone tell me which is the newest unity version I could use for uploading avatars

I have to re download everything lol

And I forgot

[stark vault]

Thank you very much

[raven orbit]

oh apparently there's an option for a newer version but it says thats the recommended version

[stark vault]

I will go with the recommendation
I appreciate the quick response

[idle scroll]

Question; attempting to apply physbones to the hair. When selecting the main body of the hair (which presumably should collect all the children under it) I'm not being given the bone collection to modify.... I can individually select the bones one by one... but not through the main hair body for some reason...

Likely user error in some manner but.... Halp...Appreciated Q.Q

[shrewd yew]

why I get this

[glass geyser]

So I'm trying to make this avatar that's publicly free and has unity packages and everything ready to upload, but after I optimized it for mobile, I had to combine some materials of it which messed it up cause it does have mobile shaders but after combining it it all comes out as standard shader which is not supported, and the mobile shaders it came with have to match their texture but obviously there's not one for when it combined the material and made the new texture otherwise it messes up that part of the model. is there some way to download the mobile shaders and apply them in blender or something, I don't have any other way of changing this.

[night ember]

you can only do materials in unity

[night ember]

either make new materials and apply them on the avatar or extract the materials from the fbx

assuming you are talking about the fact the material is greyed out and you cant edit it

[left wharf]

Are there any errors in console? If no, try re-login SDK

[glass geyser]

not exactly, it's just that as you can tell here, I combined the jacket and socks of this cat which is the atlas material name, and trying to use one of the existing mobile ones causes it to look messed up cause it's not the right texture it uses which is the atlas one. it doesn't allow me to even extract them as it doesn't extract when I click and said the shaders that came with the model can't be modified or something like that

so I was thinking the only way I can do this is apply the mobile shaders to the fbx in blender or something like that

[night ember]

you can just change the material on the mesh?

you arent forced to use a specific shader

[ornate stump]

The materials in fbx were auto generated by unity and will be locked to standard. But this doesn't mean you have to use that material. You just have to change materials in renderers the scene, or put all new materials for material remapping for the fbx file.

[shrewd yew]

I did reimport all the assets and did not work

[shrewd yew]

I did re login and did not work

[glass geyser]

okay, so how do I do one of those? I'm new to the vrchat sdk and literally my first time messing with this stuff. all I want to do is make a mobile shader for the atlas material so it works instead of having to sacrifice a part of the clothing for deleting another material to make it compatable.

[night ember]

just use a different material with the same texture

[toxic patio]

My avatar isn't playing the sound effect I added when I press my toggle. Or it is spamming the first part of it. Any idea's why?

[ornate stump]

You just have to create a new material and assigh the atlas texture, and put it into your model in the scene.

[toxic patio]

So It's a 17.32 second sound. I Can't get it to play. Did I do this right?

[ornate stump]

You didn't set audio source.

Oh it's the source path.

[ornate stump]

Can you also show the transition and the layer layout?

[ornate stump]

If you transition from any state then you must have can transition to self disable.

[toxic patio]

Where would I do that?

[ornate stump]

In the transition.

[toxic patio]

Okay. Should I test it?

Or is there any more you need or want to see?

[ornate stump]

Then you should make sure that all the transition from any state has appropriate condition.

Especialliy check if to idle has condition.

[sturdy apex]

Is anyone familar with d4rks optimizer? I was using it literally one upload ago, changed some audiolink settings, and now it's causing this error (removing it from the project fixes the error) and reinstalling it doesnt seem to do anything, any ideas?

[gloomy flint]

very very quick question!! If I remove Gogoloco from the Quest version of an avatar, people will still see me using Gogoloco with it if I'm on PC right-

[toxic patio]

Like this?

[gloomy flint]

I remember a while back I found an avatar that had Gogoloco ONLY if you were on PC, but my quest friend could see me using the poses-

[ornate stump]

Yes

[toxic patio]

Okay. Now I just need to figure why it doesn't play the sound

[ornate stump]

That's the reason though.

[toxic patio]

The cancel into self?

[ornate stump]

If it can transition to self then it's going to rapidly going in and out of the state, causing the audio to stop before it can start playing.

[somber sequoia]

if the poses and animations and such aren't in the quest version's animator, then they aren't going to happen. So no, that should not work

[gloomy flint]

Then I'm kinda wondering how someone managed to make an avatar where you could only use the gogo loco tab if you were on pc but questies could see you use it lmao--

[somber sequoia]

just don't put the menus

not sure why you'd do this, but without menus you can't trigger any of the parameters directly

[gloomy flint]

It's just weird to me because I'm PCVR, but it's the fact that someone went through the trouble to only make the Gogo loco menu available on PC?? But now I know that having Gogo on the PC versions but not quest is not a way to help save any space 😔

[toxic patio]

How Do you test the emote wheel?

[glass geyser]

OK I ended up doing what diven said and it allowed me to publish, first time I tried to change into it it got the error bot, but second attempt worked

However I cant see my body in first person

[somber sequoia]

gesture manager and/or av3 emulator in unity play mode

[ornate stump]

I don't think gogoloco size is that significant.

[toxic patio]

Where would I get that?

[glass geyser]

Also the hight is wrong at least I got user rank now

[somber sequoia]

both can be got via VCC

[gloomy flint]

eh its more of any space saved is good type deal, if i could sacrifice gogo loco for quest but keep a skirt i'd be happy yknow

[somber sequoia]

ditch gogo entirely and get FBT, space saved 🙂

[gloomy flint]

why does your viewport look so high up?

[gloomy flint]

i WISH but I'm a bed player so you'd just see me floating on my back everywhere /lh

[somber sequoia]

haha, it works

[ornate stump]

You could reduce texture size instead, that could worth the space for at least 4 gogoloco.

[glass geyser]

that's what I'm saying I got the official boykisser vrchat model from gumroad and I know someone already uploaded it to vrchat avatar search but only works on pc. I optimized the model in blender by combining some meshes and materials and got the minimum requirements for mobile but it doesn't have a first person body when I look down and the height view isn't at the model's height

[glass geyser]

do you know how I can fix these with my avatar

[ornate stump]

You didn't set view position in avatar descriptor.

[glass geyser]

oh how do I find out what to set it to to match the model height and I don't know if it fixes the first person body either

[toxic patio]

Why is my Audio Source red?

[ornate stump]

Once you hit the edit button, the will show view position in the scene.

[somber sequoia]

put the view ball right between the eyes

[ornate stump]

How red is it?

[ornate stump]

That mean it can't find its prefab.

[toxic patio]

Now it won't stop the sound.

[gloomy flint]

yknow the security check thing would be a lot easier to deal with if the sdk actually showed relevant information. Like.. No... This avatar with ten parameters, two blendshapes, one pair of pants, and 3 very low quality textures isnt over 100 mbs, yes I looked at it in detail... 😩

[ornate stump]

You rather have to set Play on Enter and Stop on Exit.

[ornate stump]

Could be lot better if it just gave reasons why it check failed.

[gloomy flint]

material slots are some of the worst ones to fix tbh

[somber sequoia]

it tells you about that one though

[toxic patio]

Yaaaaay It works.

[gloomy flint]

To be fair Kazin it'd tell you every error that could cause a security check

The real fun is when it lets you upload it anyway and then you got to figure out which one is the real culprit...

Or you delete things off the avatar that would take up a material slot and then for some reason the number doesnt change-

[glass geyser]

I'm sorry how do I find that, it's my first time so I don't know where to look for a lot of things

[gloomy flint]

you click on the avatar until it has a blue outline around it, you scroll down to the avatar descriptor, and open up the small dropdown called View

[glass geyser]

oh ok I found it thanks

[somber sequoia]

oh I agree, that'd be great

[glass geyser]

so from here I put the tiny sphere between his eyes and that will fix the first person view as well as make the body visible when looking down?

[ornate stump]

Most of the time you don't need to confirm what a person was telling you. You would have to read back the instruction, follow, see the result. If it doesn't work as you expect then you come back and describe the step you took.

Because waiting for confirmation is just wasting time for both parties.

[gloomy flint]

make it a test build upload

then it'll update in realtime as you check things

(well, update as long as you swap out of the avatar and then back into it)

[wooden cairn]

If PC and Quest parameters are synced by index and not by name, is there any way to ensure VRCFury-generated params are being bridged correctly?

I.E. I have a ton of VRCFury generated toggles, and some of them are only present on PC. How can I make sure the indexing won't be messed up?

[somber sequoia]

My advice is via UDP 🙂

[somber sequoia]

people in here have said that Fury will do this for you now, make sure you have a recent version

[wooden cairn]

UDP?

[somber sequoia]

computer networking joke

amusingly the joke itself was kinda UDP too. how very meta.

Anyway, that's off-topic.

[gloomy flint]

ok so it has to be an issue with the pc version bc i fixed every error on the quest and i still get a security check failure im pulling teeth atm

ok so i fixed EVERY error, if i still get a check fail i'm just gonna delete and reupload.

[ornate stump]

You shouldn't be able to upload if you had even a single error to begin with.

[gloomy flint]

its funny bc i can...

i hate it with a passion bc then i have to go back and see why im getting punted in the shins by vrchat when it LET me upload it!!!

[ornate stump]

The error must have red octagonal icon. If it isn't then it's something else.

[gloomy flint]

i think the texture stuff was too high but that should have been made an error that keeps me from uploading not a 'ok u can upload lol have fun figuring out which one of us made you fail security :)'

[glass geyser]

OK. Well I set it and it works as well as having the body when looking down visible, but I did choose to enable eye look to have the eyes move to make it look more lively however it ended up just making him have no eyes.

I made sure to set the correct bones for the eyes

[ornate stump]

Did you adjust eye look angle?

[glass geyser]

I don't think so, I don't know where you would mess with that. It just gives me rotation states and eyelid type

[ornate stump]

It's right below where you assigned the eye bones.

[glass geyser]

OK I figured out how to assign them, and they move how I expect them to. That's all I needed help with currently.

Thanks for helping

[left tendon]

Does anyone even have the slightest clue as to what could be going on here..? 😭

[frigid void]

Im trying to do a mat swap toggle but this comes up when I try to add the new mat

[snow wraith]

First time opening a project in a month

I can't do anything

[somber meadow]

Is your license activated in Unity Hub

[snow wraith]

It should be I have been using unity for the past 8 months LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[somber sequoia]

it does expire

[snow wraith]

Fixed it

Thanks

[timber delta]

using poiyomi and trying to use outlines.. dunno why its blocky :( helpp HJFHGHFH

[arctic ginkgo]

perhaps sharps or strange custom normals? i don't really see that reflected in the shading though..

[timber delta]

normals look to be in order so im a bit confused

i had this same issue with props

[somber sequoia]

that's just face normals, edge normals are probably more relevant here

[timber delta]

how do i check?

[somber sequoia]

I haven't used outlines, so no real idea how it should look

[timber delta]

outlines look fine on the regular model, not the props or jacket strangely enough

[dark jay]

anyone know why the quewst side of my avatar is saying size too big all i did was go back on pc side to make a physbone move a little less and change it on quest too and now its saying its too big

[north dagger]

(BLENDER) hi! im trying to add clothing that's already weight painted ( it has an armature ) to a base. i am trying to join the armatures to make it properly fit and follow the bones of the base, but ctrl j doesn't work. it makes the base teleport upwards.

[somber sequoia]

apply all transforms before trying to join stuff

[north dagger]

how?

[dark jay]

Oh i think unity had a glitch when i uploaded it and allowed me to when i shouldn't have

I had someone favorite it for me and get on quest mode since i play either pc desktop or pcvr fullbody and they said security check failed i removed pvp system from quest side as it would free up space enough for me to upload and they could see it

But im not sure if i even was able to upload the pvp system on quest if it would work

[somber sequoia]

basic blender tutorials will help a lot here. select an object, ctrl+a, then you can apply whatever transforms needed, or just all

[north dagger]

still moves when i join it, and even if i move the mesh back to the correct spot it doesnt even follow the base when im posing it

[somber sequoia]

it was a guess based on little information

[north dagger]

before joining and after

[somber sequoia]

though to note, joins are directional - select 5 things and then the 6th and the first 5 get joined to the last

the last thing selected is always the target

[north dagger]

i tried it both ways around, didnt change very much

[raven orbit]

Did you select everything in the scene and do apply all transforms or just some things

And the mesh doesnt follow the armature afterwards because the armature modifier needs to be switched to the joined armature

Might also have to apply the pose if it was modified in pose mode at all

[north dagger]

yes i did just a second ago and now it doesnt move, but the posing still isnt working

[north dagger]

how?

[raven orbit]

In the modifiers tab of a selected mech (wrench icon i think)

[somber sequoia]

yep, wrench

[north dagger]

here right? what do i have to change?

[raven orbit]

object, set it to the armature you're using

[fleet drift]

Uhm hai, I am sorry if this is the wrong channel, if someone can direct me I'll repost in the correct one; but I recently had to do a drive wipe and I don't think I have access to my unity save anymore for my avatar, is there any way to get that back?

[arctic ginkgo]

you wiped the files?

do you have unity cloud?

[somber sequoia]

restore from backup

[fleet drift]

I would have to check, but yea something happened so I had to just do a full wipe and reinstall of windows, and I guess my thoughts of having the files backed up on another drive was wrong

[north dagger]

still doesnt move with it when posing

[somber sequoia]

is it weight painted to the bones you are moving?

[fleet drift]

Sorry I'm really dum (and tired), how does one do such?

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what you use for backups

[fleet drift]

Uhm, I have no clue, I never did anything, I only had thought I copied my project and had it on an external drive, but I don't think that's the case; beyond that I'm unsure

[raven orbit]

yk what just use cats or something and watch a tutorial on that https://github.com/teamneoneko/Cats-Blender-Plugin-Unofficial- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ9xOgXTxI4

[somber sequoia]

that version is seriously outdated though

[raven orbit]

man 😔

i dont know whats the right version 🙃

[somber sequoia]

been shared in here a lot.
https://github.com/teamneoneko/Cats-Blender-Plugin-Unofficial-

[north dagger]

it doesnt work i tried a lot of different cats things

[flat marsh]

this is the stats of an avatar im working on, is this bad?

[timber wharf]

yes. should be under 70k, worst case 200-250k triangles (if its many toggles like clothes) for pc

[glass geyser]

Gosh these poorly optimized avatars

I'm having sort of a problem here, this public avatar I'm trying to upload for PC had a menu to toggle clothes and expressions and stuff but last time I tested it, there was nothing. How do I add the menu to the expressions option like they all do

[timber delta]

still havin this issue if any1 knows why :[

[long lava]

if you want to make a movie, it's really good
if you want to make a VRChat avatar
please god, do not go in public with it

That is one way to make people lose 10 fps just by looking at you (exagerating, but i never saw anyone use an avatar with that many polygons--- like-- even 200k was destroying my fps)

[junior void]

a naked avatar should definitely be able to be about 60k tris, a clothed one double that but no more, thats insane

[ornate stump]

Should have a new perf rank "Absurd" for that.

[timber wharf]

well, it depends. i knew an avatar that spawns whole phalanc of spartans and thus had like 1m, and many people were using that toggle in a pug simultaniously so the amount of polys to be rendered is even hard to imagine, and my 1070 back then was more or less fine (given how fine 1070 and public pug combined can be at all). cause one material, standard opaque, no lights in a world, no blendshapes.🤷‍♂️

[dark jay]

Anyone have any floating in mid air emotes?

[rigid crest]

so ive seen this satori komeiji avatar that can use teleport portals, but i cant seem to find it on the avatar search world, does anyone know the creator of it or the exact name?

[ornate stump]

Try asking in #1138520828556890214

[rigid crest]

alright thanks

[grizzled crow]

the mesh isnt behaving as expected in unity.
In blender, it behaves as expected, but in unity (and vrchat), there is a large seam where mesh suddenly is unaffected by the arm

there are 4 items affecting the same area with weights.. could it be that the weights break at a point?

[junior void]

try to limit total weights in blender and see if it happens in blender then as well

also the density of your topology makes me cry

[grizzled crow]

yea i accidentally made that too high... oops..

[grizzled crow]

ok doing that.. lets ee if it works

it doesnt happen in blender tho

[timber wharf]

vrc forces limit of 4 bones

affecting one vertex

[grizzled crow]

huh...

[timber wharf]

so if its 5 and not 4 then ye

[grizzled crow]

yea it was 5 bones

[junior void]

by default its set to 4

means you changed it

[grizzled crow]

i meant theres 5 bones affecting it

wait you can change the limit?

[timber wharf]

is that even a thing in blender?

[junior void]

in blender, yes

weight paint mode: weights -> limit total

popup set to 4

[timber wharf]

you can change it in unity as well, not that vrc client would care tho🫠

[grizzled crow]

ah I see... I just clicked that and it changed

that makes sense

[brazen citrus]

i keep getting this error

[modern scaffold]

anyone know how to make the arrows point in the direction they are going

[somber sequoia]

they're particles?

[modern scaffold]

yeah

[somber sequoia]

in the Renderer section there's an option for "align", you could try Velocity

[modern scaffold]

thank you

[fringe tide]

When my avatar isn't fully enabled for people, it's T-Posing. is there any particular reason why this is happening? it's fine when it's fully on

[brazen citrus]

im currently making emotes on my avatar, but once the toggle is enabled, the audio is delayed; though hearing the audio normally its not delayed, it plays as soon as its played; but not when toggled on, it takes around a second.

[junior void]

thats likely because its supposed to go into the fx layer

[spark walrus]

Material slots! Anyone slightly interested in optimisation knows why they suck! However, toggles will require having a separate mesh with its own material slot - even if you're using the same material as the base mesh!

Is there a way around this? Or rather, is there a way to add toggled objects without needing a separate material slot?

[junior void]

Merge the item onto the base avatar, make it use a material you already have (atlas it or maybe squeeze it in somewhere, depending on what you got) and toggle it via a blendshape that hides it inside the base

that also cuts one mesh away

[spark walrus]

that's what I was afraid of because I was planning to use contacts for special interactions with this object

are there really no other options?

[junior void]

not sure what prevents you from adding contacts to it

you can toggle the receiver on/off in the animation that also drives the blendshape

why not just simply make an animation that toggles the object and use the same exact trigger for this as the arm position one has?

[spark walrus]

i forgot that this wasn't the only use for contacts but i was talking about stuff like being able to grab onto a sword in your hip and have that follow your hand independently of the hand expression

i guess you can kinda possibly do that with phys bones? but as soon as you let go it goes back to the spot, right?

[junior void]

yea. maybe have a look at how the dude called thatfatkidsmom does it. and yes, thats his name. hes got a prefab out there including a video that makes props grabable and dropable in the world

i assume you can use the blendshape toggle instead of the object toggle tho, as long as the prop is positioned with the contacts?

[spark walrus]

love the name, i'll look it up

thanks!

[junior void]

not sure if thats gonna work but optimization is ass

[spark walrus]

yeah but gotta love it when you can get a unique avatar on quest and not have very poor rating

[junior void]

true but im not gonna sell my kidney for it lol

[spark walrus]

my avatars are quest first and pc last so i gotta learn to do this lol

[pallid bobcat]

how do I get started with aking avatars and uploading worlds onto vr chat, what do i need to use software wise???

[timber wharf]

vrc home page downloads provides you with vcc that will install unity. then search for some yt guide

[shrewd stirrup]

How do i fix viewpoint not showing up in the descriptor

[timber wharf]

in 3d view?

[shrewd stirrup]

yes

[timber wharf]

enable gizmos

on top of it

[shrewd stirrup]

how

[timber wharf]

i believe its uses ball icon or smth now

[shrewd stirrup]

yeah but what is the gizmos thing

[timber wharf]

now, button has icon

gimme screnshot of top of the 3d view

[shrewd stirrup]

OHHH

OKAY

tysm

[timber wharf]

thats on off for all the technical icons etc

[shrewd stirrup]

Alr ty bro

[prisma gate]

i need help what do i download for this avatar?

all of it or just the updated part

[night ember]

the updated unity package ig?

🤷‍♂️

[prisma gate]

ok

it says i need this

PoiyomiToon_7.3.50_To_8.1.161

where do i get it

sorry im slow

[night ember]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=poiyomi

[prisma gate]

uh

can u actually help me find the exact one

please i cant find it D:

[somber meadow]

you don't need the exact version

as long as you use the latest bundled package that includes 7.3-whatever latest version there currently is

https://www.poiyomi.com/download

[timber wharf]

add it to vcc, select any 8.x version

most likely 9.x would work just fine as well so the latest should work

[prisma gate]

bro i dont think its gonna work bc it says i need to use 2019 unity

and i dont have it

[somber meadow]

Always use the latest SDK/Unity (specified from VRChat), Unity 2019 avatars can go into 2022 without any additional work. Unity 2022 will update any outdated things with the asset pipeline, you never need to use Unity/SDK versions specified by creators as long as you're above the versions

[prisma gate]

oh okk

[timber wharf]

make sure avi doesnt try to import VRCSDK folder

[fringe tide]

so my avatar t-poses when people don't have it fully turned on, when it's turned on fully it doesn't. does anyone have any ideas how to help with this?

[prisma gate]

i need help it says i need to fix something but idk what

[somber meadow]

you can't upload custom shaders and that many physbones on quest. If you need assistance you can use VRCQuestTools to make it easier for you

https://github.com/kurotu/VRCQuestTools?tab=readme-ov-file#vrcquesttools

[prisma gate]

i dont understand D:

i added it to the compainion but how do i get it into unity

or do i have to re open it for it to be in there

[somber meadow]

click "Manage Project" on your project in Creator Companion, find the package in the list, and you'll be able to add it from there

[prisma gate]

Network ID Assigner has been attached to the avatar. Please upload the non-converted avatar to PC platform to synchronize PhysBones between PC and Android.

what does this mean

[somber meadow]

It'll let both platforms (Quest and PC) have both ends seeing someone grab physbones

it's not extremely needed

[grizzled crow]

why does it state that my avatar's bounds is like.. 20m along one axis when the tips of the ears barely reach 3.4m?

[prisma gate]

Avatar Dynamics (PhysBones and Contacts) performance rating will be "Very Poor", so you will not able to upload for Android. Please keep "Poor" rating in avatar dynamics categories.

uh how can i fix it

[raven orbit]

tail

[somber sequoia]

there is much discussion in #quest-optimization

[grizzled crow]

is it computing the max stretch of the tail?

[raven orbit]

probably

[grizzled crow]

ah

it is set to be stretchy

[prisma gate]

can anyone pls help

[somber sequoia]

generic statement, not targeted: there's a ton of great information in the scrollback in these channels, I encourage anyone new to browse through, or search for keywords.

[distant hawk]

Not sure where to put this. But I'm doing a prop for my avatar and I made it all from scratch in Blender (Right) but when I took it into unity (Left) the wheels seemed to have flipped inside out. Any way I can fix this? SOLVED: Flipped the normals in blender <3

[daring ivy]

in what software do people like actually make avatars?

[junior void]

blender

or maya if u rich

[daring ivy]

is there any tutorials for starting to make them from like never knowing the software?

[timber wharf]

if you want to make them from scratch as well then prob Rainhet. but start with blender donut tutorials.

[daring ivy]

ok thx

wait what do most people do is it not from scratch?

[timber wharf]

idk, like kitbash existing models or add small props or more complex stuff like new cloth

[tough snow]

It might be a good idea to find an avatar base to modify for yourself in Blender/Unity and learn how that all works

[native lake]

hello evryone i need your help on something how can i fix this

apparently the armature is causing the problem idk i cant find anything online either

[native lake]

yes and how i do that

im not going to remove the armature ?

[somber meadow]

it's a component on your armature that's missing

click your armature object, in the inspector you can find the missing script there

either look for the dependencies of this avatar and import them, or remove that script

[somber meadow]

search for "Armature" in your scene

[native lake]

hum where do i search it ;_;

dont think this is it

[somber meadow]

search it in your hierarchy tab

[native lake]

omg thanks you there was a armature with 3 missing script

[native lake]

and just to finish any tips to find the « standard » shader for quest ? easyier ?

[somber meadow]

you can search standard lite in the shader dropdown. and you can select multiple materials when doing it

[pine aurora]

dose anyone know how to fix the sdk pannel not showing up in the creator companion

[somber meadow]

creator companion doesn't have the SDK control panel it just installs the SDK into your project

if it's not showing in Unity, show your console for errors

[arctic ginkgo]

do you have the "VRChat SDK" option in the tool bar?

[pine aurora]

nope

[arctic ginkgo]

and you are looking in the editor, correct?

[pine aurora]

yep

[native lake]

where is that drop down ?

[somber meadow]

when you select a material, at the top of the inspector

[somber meadow]

Screenshot your Unity console tab

[balmy barn]

old unity get 22f1

[somber meadow]

screenshot your vcc "manage project" screen on this project

[native lake]

so i change evry shader to standar lite but some wont change

[somber meadow]

those are embedded materials in the FBX

[native lake]

so what i need to do ?

[somber meadow]

either create a material yourself in the project tab and replace the material slot, or go into the model import settings by selecting the FBX in the project tab, clicking the "Materials" tab in the inspector and clicking "Extract Materials"

[stiff cloud]

Any reason because the skirt shows like this?

Normals are fixed

[somber meadow]

the normals are flipped

[stiff cloud]

But in blender no

[somber meadow]

if it's a PC avatar you can just use a backface culling disabled shader anyway

go in solid view and enable "Backface Culling"

[stiff cloud]

Yeah ik

But is normal

[somber meadow]

show what it looks like in blender and show your viewport shading settings

[somber meadow]

did you export your changes?

[stiff cloud]

Yes

[somber meadow]

do you have overlapping vertices on that mesh?

[stiff cloud]

Nope

[somber meadow]

go into edit mode on that object, select all, press M, merge by distance

[stiff cloud]

Ik

Already done

Maybe is something in unity that makes the skirt like that

Or i could try doing the opposite normal face

[somber meadow]

what's your import settings for that mesh in Unity

[winter edge]

Is there a parameter limit on quest lower than PC?

If I get VRCFT working on PC it will work on quest too?

[wind skiff]

press ctrl+a apply scale

[stiff cloud]

Scale is corelated?

With backface

[somber meadow]

• No, both parameter limits are the same

• Yes, if the parameters list exactly match (You can use VRCFury to help you with this)

[wind skiff]

if it currently has negative scale on some axis yes

it would get applied when exporting, which could then cause normals to invert

[silk hedge]

hey, I am fairly new to VRC Stations,
I am trying to implement them on a Vehicle Avatar but The interact option is not showing up on PC or Quest.
Anyone know how to implement these?

[balmy barn]

need a box collider

https://creators.vrchat.com/worlds/components/vrc_station/#stations-used-on-avatars

[hot oak]

https://chocolaterice.booth.pm/items/5650156

does anyone know what shaders this avatar uses? there are no instructions in the folders and it does not say what the requirements are on the webpage.

[raven orbit]

it has a link to it on that page here

[hot oak]

ah! i may have missed it while translating

[prisma thunder]

Save me plz

Been trying to fix this for 2 weeks 😭

[left tendon]

This is a plead for help

I recorded a video to give a rundown since its an odd issue I cant really figure out how to describe through images

[azure crown]

I'm trying to add av3 manger so I can merge 2 fx layers but everytime I try it keeps giving me an error along the lines of "apply settings" "Parameters driver" or something
And I don't see the vrlabs nor the enable feature in the tools tap

It's go loco I wanna add but the model I have came with an fx for face expressions. Avatar puppeting and it would be a Hassel to do all that onto the fx layer for go loco

[cursive gorge]

i may be stupid but where does one put a roughness map?

[somber sequoia]

Roughness is the inverse of smoothness

I think this shader puts that on the alpha channel of the metallic map?

oh it says so, yup

[cursive gorge]

ahh

i see

[prisma thunder]

cough

[somber sequoia]

outdated SDK maybe?

[azure crown]

Idk. I will try updating it

[azure crown]

Update: it worked thank you :]

[somber sequoia]

yay

[prisma gate]

where can i get this ? "import SDK3 and Dynamic bones asset"

Package doesn't come with SDK3, Dynamic bones asset.
You will need to make a new project, import SDK3 and Dynamic bones asset

how do i do that?

[tough snow]

Dynamic Bones are outdated, they should get automatically converted into Physbones

[prisma gate]

ok

[sudden hornet]

Im trying to add a texture that I had just purchased for an avatar and was wondering how I add the "sparkles" or glow, everything else seemed like a simple drag and drop but im stuck on where I would put the body sparkles image.

[prisma thunder]

My systems are so convoluted, but they do what must be done (Cant toggle off clothing, scale, or change the material. My solution? Animate ALL the clothing armature scaling down 😭)

[somber meadow]

Could you provide a link?

[prisma thunder]

List of shit I've been trying to do for weeks (Save me plz)
Fix Headpats
Fix Boops
Make Color Change Quest Compatible
Fix Quest Blush
Fix GoGoLoco
Fix Thumbs
Add Rave Mode (PC)
Add Sleep Mode (PC)
Transfur Animation (PC) (Anyone do 3d anims?)

[grizzled lichen]

how do i make player animations? when i try adding keyframes to parts of the rig like the arms and legs and head it doesnt let me do that

pressed enter before i finished typing :(

[somber sequoia]

Yeah you have to work with the muscle stuff in the animator, you can't just record then rotate the bones

[quasi trail]

Would anyone know how to rip gmod character models in order to be used on VRC?

[hoary knoll]

How would I be able to have a contact reciever only activate if both contact senders are within the contact reciever?

[steady summit]

is there an easy way to fix this jittery mesh?

[somber sequoia]

are you in Blender? Reset normals if you haven't, past that... do some modeling 🙂

[somber sequoia]

use two receivers, they can be in the same location

[steady summit]

yes currently in Blender, I'll try this first thank you

[somber sequoia]

yeah it looks like weird edge normals

[steady summit]

reset normals means merge by distance? I am in Blender 3.5

oh no that was reset duplicates

[somber sequoia]

not sure how you got that at all. Select faces, alt+n to bring up the normals menu, "reset vectors"

[steady summit]

ohh that yes, I tried that and it doesn't fix it sadly

[somber sequoia]

it may be actual mesh and you'd need to do some reshaping to smooth it

[naive spoke]

do the bones look correct?

[somber sequoia]

really hard to tell with the pink though

[somber sequoia]

sure

[naive spoke]

it dosent have toes or an upper chest

[steady summit]

yeah the texture is missing, with the texture it looks normal just thought I'd better fix it

[somber sequoia]

oh

[naive spoke]

idk if that's how it's supposed to be

[somber sequoia]

yeah you'd be better off looking at it in studio lighting without the texture to see how the mesh looks. If it's fine, then it's one of the textures in that material

[somber sequoia]

you don't need either

[hoary knoll]

ooohhh thank you

[heady oracle]

Hi, I've got some shoes inside a prefab that are easy to add, but my avatar has stockings that make the shoes not fit. So, I made changes to the stockings on/off animation to change the shoes blendshape. The result is that the shoes do nothing 😦 the default is still being used. Is there a reason my blendshape isn't changing at all?

[naive spoke]

which fx goes here?

I'm assuming gesture?

[raven orbit]

the one that says fx

gesture goes in gesture

[sharp venture]

anyone have any ideas on how i could fix this weird landing animation, would it be something fixable in unity or would i have to take a few steps back

all the other animations and stuff work fine its just this animation in particular that seems to be a bit wonked

[hexed flame]

Anyone had this error before? won't let me enter any info for the avatar

I've reloaded the project, re-logged back in but same error

[gloomy flint]

Questionnnn

How can I remove a blendshape in Unity but keep the setting on it that I want? Like lets say an avatar has a Fat and a Skinny blendshape, and I want to get rid of the blendshape itself but keep it in the Fat shape- Would I need to do that in Blender somehow or just FAFO

[proven trellis]

I can't figure this out, I want to parent an animated object that has an animation that just makes it go forward to be attached to my head so it will go forward in relation to where I'm looking, but I can't parent it to my head without it becoming static

[gloomy flint]

Did you put it in the head's hierarchy?

Or did you click Root Transform(s) and set it to the head which isn't how you'd do it-

[proven trellis]

If I just put it under the head bone it becomes static and the animation cant move it

[gloomy flint]

Can you try to show what ur doing?

[proven trellis]

So, this object

I want it to be parented to my head, so it just moves forward based on where I'm looking, so if I look up it should go up, or down it would go down

just wherever my head pointing

But when I just simply try parenting it to my head, it makes it static suddenly

I got it working

[left wharf]

AAO Avatar Optimizer or d4rkAvatarOptimizer will help you

[gloomy flint]

thank u, i'll look them up and save them for when i'm not as tired

[viscid snow]

New to substance 3d painter, how do I stop the drawing from bleeding from the eye to the eyelid, theyre not touching in the UV section

[wind skiff]

right click and set size space to texture

and, optionally, alignment to uv

[viscid snow]

sorry right click on what?

nvm found it, thanks!

[timber wharf]

in unity you can (should) use vrc fury and blendshaoe optimiser in it, it will bake any blendshape that is never animated

in editor blendshape will remain available but the final upload will be lighter/more performant

[gloomy flint]

I downloaded vrcfury last week but never saw a blendshape optimizer in the tools list :')

[viscid snow]

Is the a poyomi shader like xiexe toon cutout? I wanna switch my avatar to poyomi since all guides are with those shaders

[amber gull]

hello i have downloaded a shader for a body and i dont know how can i copy it can someone please help

how can i paste it like this please?

[buoyant thorn]

will this work 😭

[graceful mango]

whenever i drag it on (im doing it correctly, i have vrcfury) it somehow ends up there

[ornate stump]

Just manually position it again?

[junior void]

You might have to put it into the scene next to your avi first, then drag it onto the avi

[versed granite]

been getting this error on a few avatars, any idea what this is?

[left wharf]

are there any other errors?

[versed granite]

not that I saw, but I did comeacross a sound that wasnt loading in background and that fixed it

weird there was no warning in the sdk about it

[wind skiff]

this error would have more information if you click on it

[autumn obsidian]

I have been doing someone's avatar for them and i have tried time and time again, this time I tried without adding anything to it, tried uploading it as the model itself and still nothing. i have been having many issues with this model but I cannot do this and i will attach the image of the errors that i am keep having. I have also gone through many sub reddits and help forums and still nothing is working. I have also detached the ID too in but most of the time it is not there to begin with and also tried assigning an ID to it which i cannot do, nor get one with either.

I am also using version 2022.3.22f1 and also using the VRChat creator as manually doing the SDK, the VRC SDK does not appear even after all the help forums online

There has also been more errors but with me starting a fresh without adding anything at all even textures, I only have these 5 errors

If anyone can provide me some help, that would be great please. and the model that i am using is this on: https://saffronthebat.gumroad.com/l/AtlasProtogen

I will attach the error image below
https://imgur.com/RbJlHJ7

[junior void]

The first error means your project is missing vrcfury although its using a gogo loco install that dead relies on vrcf

Either delete the gogo loco package or install vrcfury

The rest or the errors are syptoms of it. Programs work like that.

Vrcf missing causes builder to not work, causes internal error, causes this, this causes that. Initial reason above tho

[autumn obsidian]

i'll give that a try thanks

[glossy trout]

Currently editing a booth avatar and I'm able to see the bangs/face bandage in VRChat on desktop in my POV. How do I fix that?
it's also not head chop

[sudden hornet]

could someone please help me? there were some earrings that were attached to an avi im working on, and deleting the earring bones made the earrings detach from the avatar and end up at the bottom of the avi. could someone help me figure out how to reattach them?

[junior void]

Well, the bones define where things are

If you delete the bone, it doesnt know where the mesh belongs

I havent seen anyone fixing that in unity without using a new fbx. Maybe your can revert all changes made on a prefab, if it is a prefab, but that might revert other edits you made, too

[arctic ginkgo]

It is headchop, maybe your mode is wrong (which mode it hides in, vr, desktop, or both)

[glossy trout]

I'm not seeing a single Head Chop script on any of them though?

[primal spruce]

so i was trying to add something as im very sure i followed step by step on what to do, does anybody know what else this could be?

[junior void]

This could be youre missing the final ik stub. See if its required

[glossy trout]

Okay, I've looked at every single component on the mesh that's being visible and I'm not seeing a Head Chop script. :c

[primal spruce]

i already have final ik stub installed (on vrchat cc)

[arctic ginkgo]

so you might need to apply one

[glossy trout]

Apply head chop to get rid of the visible mesh??

[prisma thunder]

cough

[glossy trout]

What specifically are you trying to fix with these? For example, 'fix quest blush'- what about it are you trying to fix?

[prisma thunder]

These were notes I wrote for myself. I probably should have specified more.

[prisma thunder]

Because quest doesn't support transparent shaders, The blush is just a big red bar I was hoping I could try to fix this somehow lol

Just anything that's less jarring than a big red bar.

[snow goblet]

what are all unity versions that are able to upload avatars right now?

[glossy trout]

you're going to have to go into blender and a make the blush into a 3d mesh

being three pink lines for the blush instead of a transparent plane

[sudden hornet]

ok screw it im just gonna copy over everything from my 2 project which is complete and remake the avi but keep the earrings/choker

[primal spruce]

can anybody else help?

[arctic ginkgo]

yeah why not?

[prisma thunder]

Better detailed
Fix Headpats (Parameters don't work?)
Fix Boops (Parameters don't work?)
Fix GoGoLoco (Doesnt work)
Fix Thumbs (Can't do thumbs up)
Add Rave Mode (rainbow emissives/outline with audio link)
Add Sleep Mode (Purring/heartbeat sounds)
Transfur Animation (PC) (Anyone do 3d anims?)

[snow goblet]

this is a missing script error, which could be a lot of different things. you could be missing something (?), so look around your avatar for missing scripts and see if you can find out what they are or delete them. unfortunately not much can be done with whats known

[prisma thunder]

I can probably do sleep mode by myself. Everything else I've already tried.

[kind wave]

how do i fix this?

[raven orbit]

click on the fbx, rig, configure and make sure everything is mapped to the right bones

[kind wave]

Im pretty sure it is no?

[lime portal]

im having issues with weight painting, any help would be greatly appreciated

[limber iris]

Hello, I'm trying to change my avatar to be quest compatible and I think everything is fine now but when I try to upload it I get the following message and then the build fails.
Eventho in this model I checked and everything is the VRChat/Mobile/Toon Lit
Shader.. Not sure what to do / try now. Any help is appreciated

[native lake]

helloo i made an avatar with toogle on pc and quest but when i toogle a prop on pc it activate a other one on quest

[buoyant thorn]

is it possible to make like a "worm" model rotate towards the way you swing it in vrc?

[somber meadow]

your vrcexpressionparameter list needs to be in the same order

you can use VRCFury to help with this

[pine aurora]

anyone able to help me with this cause i try hit play on a keyframe and it says this

[somber meadow]

Look in the console for compiler errors

[loud geode]

I want to make this look nicer. the colors are very flat. What do you guys do for Cloths?

[somber meadow]

That's just in blender, what shader are you going to use in Unity?

[native lake]

even if there is more props an toole on pc ?

and where is the vrcparametermenu ?

[loud geode]

@somber meadow Well combination of the poly one for PC, and the toon lit for Quest.

[somber meadow]

The order itself needs to match at least

it's under your menu item in your avatar descriptor

[native lake]

even if the quest version doesnt have the props that the pc have ?

[somber meadow]

the file doesn't have to be the same, just the order of the parameter list

so whatever quest parameters are on the PC parameter, make them the first in the order

[native lake]

ok they just need to have the same order and it will work

[somber meadow]

yes, you can also just slap a random VRCFury component on both versions like a "Fix Write Defaults" component and it'll do this automatically for you. Just upload the PC one first and it'll remember

[native lake]

so the quest have 3 toogle and the pc 7 so i will work for the 3

[somber meadow]

you don't need to delete parameters, just the order that they're in

[prisma thunder]

I'm lazy, and stupid. Just make a new quest version every PC update, and keep all pc toggles in their own section lol

(This is what I do, not a suggestion)

[native lake]

so it will make the quest have the toovl in the good order

[prisma thunder]

mhm

Thats what I do at least (I find the easiest ways to do things, and the MOST convoluted solutions to everything. It works tho!)

[native lake]

so i just need to reeupload the quest version

[native lake]

yeah youve got skill xD

[pine aurora]

anyone understand this ?

[somber meadow]

What Unity version are you using? the SDK shouldn't be in Assets

[pine aurora]

2022.3.26f1

[somber meadow]

you're supposed to be on Unity 2022.3.22 and use the creator companion to install the SDK. Anything higher will not show in game

https://creators.vrchat.com/sdk/upgrade/current-unity-version

[pine aurora]

ight ima install the version

[mellow vigil]

Hello, currently im making an avatar that is goingto have 2D visemes, and I know how to do that. the issue is that I have body swap textures that also change the color of the faces. Does anyone know how I can make a toggle that changes the fasical expression colors along with visemes?

[prisma thunder]

No, its my LACK of skill lmao

[timber wharf]

@mellow vigil uh just drive different properties or what

you do 2d visemes by animating uv offset

and you change color by material swapping

as long as viseme textures are mapped out identically viseme layer doesnt care what texture to move

[stiff kiln]

To those with knowledge about moving objects, may I request your help?

For context:
I love sci-fi stuff, and I love pet drones. Im making a small drone for my avatar but I would love to give it the ability to fly by itself and control it using a 2-axis puppet. I've seen a few people showing their drones online, but after many hours of research I found nothing about how to make a working drone (most of the results simply leading to videos about the Flying Mode that was added to the VRC Camera). I've tried making a working drone by myself, but sadly the only way I knew how was to use a Float value with 2 animations, one for each limit of distance. But doing so meant that it was impossible to control precisely and I had no way of making it turn.

The main question:
Would anyone be willing to teach me how to make one work? I heard there was a way using Joints and Rigid Bodies, but I have 0 knowledge about those so I never tried. ;w;

[umbral pagoda]

Why does the "My Avatars" section not show up in my account?

I tried uploading an avatar but the entire tab is just missing lol

(first avi upload)

[somber meadow]

Go into the SDK, click the Content Manager, and you can open the URL directly to the avatar

[umbral pagoda]

ill try that ty

Just in case that doesn't work, has anybody here gotten an avi off of cupcakes bakery? I got the cow one but it doesn't have instructions for which settings to turn on when creating the project

[runic moat]

why aren't the colliders appearing? i'm not able to touch any physbones ingame either

[shy pagoda]

can someone help me? im getting a "failed to upload" error every time i try to upload this avatar, never had this issue before in this project

console doesnt really tell me much of anything, idk what the errors mean

weird.... i fixed it by capturing from scene for the thumbnail rather than using a png..?

[stiff kiln]

Maybe the rig is set to Generic instead of Humanoid? I forgot once and that happened. The default physbones doesn't recognise Generic avatars.

[placid mica]

I need a lil help, today is my very first day using Unity. How do I fix this issue where an asset is wayyy far away from where the XYZ movers are? I have an asset floating above the head, but the moving things keep spawning on the floor, and its like this for each asset I have on the model. It just started happening all of a sudden!

Pls ping/reply :>

[balmy sun]

im having this EXACT issue, everything works (expressions), its in humanoid, no one ive talked to has been able to figure out why its doing that either

[somber meadow]

Screenshot your entire unity window

you most likely have gizmos off in the scene view

[runic moat]

i copied the vrc avatar descriptor and deleted it and repasted it and did ctrl z and somehow that added it all back

[balmy sun]

did you fix it?

[runic moat]

yeah

[balmy sun]

I have colliders, but I still cant interact with things

[runic moat]

hmm

i think mine was broken bc the bones weren't there at all

[somber meadow]

Press Z to switch between the Pivot (origin) or Center

[balmy sun]

I have all the bones, theres nothing wrong with my armature, its just ashjdbAUJSGFHBAUJSGHFBUADSGBujAKSYHFD

[placid mica]

oops

thank you!

[balmy sun]

real

[somber meadow]

What are you unable to interact with

if it's other people, make sure you and the other person are sharing contact permissions (Yellow handshake icon in their nameplate)

[balmy sun]

phys bones on other people and myself, I have self interact on and its not a problem with any other avatar i use

[gloomy flint]

btw, its easier to use 1 capsule collider for the whole hand, not individual fingers.

[balmy sun]

bro lowkey, it just fixed itself

Im so confused

[placid mica]

Another question- how can I move the avatar so that I can see the physbones move while in unity?

[somber meadow]

going into play mode (play button at the top middle of Unity)

[prisma thunder]

Audio link emissions only work in a few worlds?

[somber meadow]

AudioLink has to be implemented in worlds by the creators to work, yes

[prisma thunder]

aww

[lavish glen]

is there a new updated quest tools?

[loud geode]

The UVmap of my exported fbx does not match blender.

[raven orbit]

are there multiple UVmaps?

[loud geode]

Well yes and no. There are multiple mesh objects each having their own UV map.

The SantaHoddie has a single UV map to my knowlage.

Maybe Not actually. Looks like this might be related.

[raven orbit]

yeah, the one at the top doesn't seem to match the image there

[loud geode]

Thank you Very much!

[raven orbit]

np! i'd delete the unused ones and rename it to UVMap (in case you want to merge the meshes, the uvmap names would need to match)

[loud geode]

Looks hwo I expect in unity.

GOod to know about the UVMap naming convention as well for merging.

[rugged patrol]

Hi I have a prefab base booth avatar that is in A pose when I import into Unity, However the clothing I want to swap out is in T pose. What would be the easiest way to get the model and clothing to match so I can modular avatar them together? Does it matter?

[spark walrus]

would there be anyone willing to help me out with an avi I bought on booth. im trying to upload it but as soon as I click build and publish it gets stuck building

[left gull]

its better to just show the errors/issues you're having then vaugely asking for help

[spark walrus]

Im not really sure where i would find the errors, im pretty new to unity

[left gull]

check console, if theres nothing in the console restart your unity project and try to check again

[idle jetty]

Can someone help I’m trying to get my Vrchat character converted for quest but when I add the package for Vrchat quest conversion and Vrchat avatar upload package they don’t show up

[lavish glen]

what does this mean???

[lavish glen]

^

[fluid hatch]

Hello, I am new to make avatars.
Unity has an error: Packages\com.vrchat.base\Integrations\VRChat Example Central\Editor\Example Downloader Panel\ExampleDownloaderPanel.cs(108,13): error CS0103: The name 'VRCSdkControlPanel' does not exist in the current context
I can not find solution in google, can anyone help? thanks

[night patrol]

how would i go about fixing avatar arms? when stretching my arms in game the elbows are still bent.

[queen trail]

does anyone know how to fix this

[raven orbit]

i think either recalculate outside or reset vectors

[queen trail]

how do i reset the vectors

[raven orbit]

it's at the bottom the the same menu in the pic

[somber sequoia]

select the faces first

[honest canyon]

Hello! I’m trying to upload an avatar however it keeps throwing this error at me

[somber sequoia]

I'd delete and reinstall the Poiyomi shader package

[queen trail]

it worked but now when i use a bendshape it mess up my sharpness of certain edges

[somber sequoia]

in Unity or Blender? If in Unity, enable legacy blendshape normals in the inspector for the model file

[queen trail]

both

[prisma thunder]

Could someone help me set up headpats? I have the animations, and the contacts, but I can't get the contact to update the parameter

[somber sequoia]

I can't tell what part that is at all, but it doesn't look like something that would be part of a viseme

[somber sequoia]

make sure the parameter name in the animator is identical, case included, to the one in the contact receiver.

[prisma thunder]

Yup

Give me one sec

[prisma thunder]

Full setup of it

🤷

[somber sequoia]

wow that's way fast

looks ok though

[prisma thunder]

It just doesn't work tho 😭

[somber sequoia]

yeah, I'm trying to do a really simple normals bake in Blender and that's not working either. Must be a thing tonight 🙂

[wide latch]

Got the silliest issue that I don't understand.
I simply want my tail to move a little bit when I twist my waist.
So obviously a rotation constraint should do it.
But it doesn't work. And I don't know why.

[somber sequoia]

The tail root bone is a child of the hip bone though right?

[wide latch]

That's correct, yes

Are these incompatible?

[somber sequoia]

not necessarily. this is an interesting idea. What happens?

[wide latch]

Apparently nothing. I run it, twist the spine, and nothing happens to the tail

[somber sequoia]

rotation constraints will take effect in the editor, not even in play mode

[wide latch]

Just checking: They will, or they won't, take effect in the editor?

[somber sequoia]

will

should 🙂

[wide latch]

Hmm. Okay, let me try out of play mode then...

Well heck me sideways, that seems to have done it

Mind blown

[somber sequoia]

in play mode usually you have something trying to run IK which means you can't move the humanoid bones manually

[wide latch]

Ah ha. I wish there was a note on there somewhere 😅

Thank you Kazin 👍

[somber sequoia]

yeah there's a lot of stuff like this that's in the Unity docs.... somewhere

[young ether]

does anyone know why my modifier might not be showing on the clothing?

nvm it for some reason wanted to make me crazy and is now working

[autumn obsidian]

i wanted to say thanks, you helped me out with this and i appreciate it a lot. as it works now

[jaunty onyx]

Dose anyone know how to attach clothing?

[night ember]

blender
if shares same armature like its made for the base just transfer the mesh to the other armature
if not, weight paint and fit to avatar

[jaunty onyx]

Well.. I mean it's made for nova beast but the avatar im using has a different body, it's an edit. And I sculpted it to fit the base but idk how to exactly put it on the avatar? Idk

[jaunty onyx]

Do you have a video that could help me?..or could u help me

[night ember]

weight paint it to the armature if its not the same armature

[jaunty onyx]

😭⁉️ how

And how do I attach it completely?

[somber sequoia]

in Blender you use an armature modifier to attach it to the correct armature, then weight paint it to move with the bones. There are many tutorial videos on this.

quite possibly you don't have to do much actual weight painting, just some touch-up

[jaunty onyx]

can u send me a video?

[young ether]

https://youtu.be/bz6JVFaNHmE?si=P_kt1BbWjc0YTN7Y

this link may help

she is who im watching to learn

even though i still cant get the armature to work

[somber sequoia]

I don't have one offhand, sorry.

[trim scaffold]

Anyone know why, when I export an FBX with additional meshes (clothes) and replace the avatar base fbx, the whole base just disappears in unity? And once it disappears, I cannot get it back until I restore a backup from VRCCC

[somber sequoia]

did you unpack your avatar prefab? Don't.

[trim scaffold]

no. I replaced the FBX for the avatar with a new FBX exported from blender that included clothes

I would think it's an export issue, but I made a backup of the original FBX, and replaced it with the backup and it still does it

makes me think unity just doesnt like base FBXs being replaced?

[pallid jolt]

i made some edits to a model in blender but now im getting some weird errors, anyone know what this means-

[somber meadow]

Go into the rig configuration and click Pose > Reset

[pallid jolt]

thank

[lavish sphinx]

may i ask why the avatars arent making any sounds?

[eager cradle]

anyone feel like walking a new (dumb) user through uploading an avatar? after a few videos im now just stuck.

[lavish sphinx]

ive tryed loading into the world rejoining the world and i tryed restarting vrchat and still nothing from the avatar making any sounds what could the problem be?

if there is anyone that knows how to resolve that issue please let me know

[eager cradle]

I wish i could help lmao

[half stirrup]

i tried uploading my new avi twice, says successful. but tells me security check failed in game

any help plz

[gloomy flint]

show SDK info

[half stirrup]

im guessing you mean this

i cant view avi details or anything either

[gloomy flint]

avatars too big.

[half stirrup]

idk how to change that, godfall avis are pretty big on their own :/

[gloomy flint]

these need to be fixed

i cant see the whole list but i do know if you go over these you 9 times out of 10 will fail security checks

[half stirrup]

damn idk what to even get rid of or do, there isnt too many things on it :v

[gloomy flint]

which godfall is it...

[half stirrup]

godmagi

[gloomy flint]

thats over 90 toggles my dude

thats more than just 'isnt too many'

[half stirrup]

well idk what to do about it then because it just comes with that many toggles on its own 💀

[gloomy flint]

I always use the SFW versions of avatars since they're smaller, and then delete clothes or toggles I won't ever use, and crunch any textures that won't lose quality when crunched.

[half stirrup]

i would delete toggles and assets i dont want or wont use but the creator likes to combine multiple things into one layer for some reason

so if i delete one layer i risk deleting a few things i wanted to keep

[gloomy flint]

Thats to save space by combining meshes

If you started crunching some textures you might be able to make it within the 500mb

[half stirrup]

how do i crunch textures

i'll crunch em on shit i dont wanna use i suppose lmao

[gloomy flint]

hold on let me open up a project myself to show you

well it depends

if the texture is 2048, lowering it like one tier wont ruin anything

you go to your texture thing right, and you click on the texture you want crunched, for example, hair

in the inspector, youll get this when you click on it

[half stirrup]

if i go through the animator and delete some of the toggles will that help too

[gloomy flint]

Try just doing textures right now and see what we go down to

[half stirrup]

oki dokie

[gloomy flint]

some avatars even I have are too large to start, but just lowering the texture resolution was enough

[strong lion]

I tried to add colliders to the skirt so when I stick my legg through it would go up.

But it didn't work, I tried to add capsule colliders to the legs and knees but still didn't work.
I tried to add cloth to the 3 bottom skirt parts but then 1 of the skirt parts felt down.. so it didn't snap anymore..

I tried in play mode for the ones that did snap but still I could push my leg through it.

Can someone help me with this?

Also tried with colliders in the skirt but didn't work out as you see on the image.

I was not really sure how to fix this so I started trying stuff lol

[left wharf]

First, is your skirt weight-painted?
And so, are there any physbones in skirt bone?

[strong lion]

Not sure I never added my own skirt colliders but original ones that came with the avi(other skirt) were to big so it was really irritating me.

But I don't see any bones in the avatar only these armature bubbles

Last time with unity 2019 I edited my Rindo but hen I saw bones..

Not now in unity 2022 with rufina

[timber wharf]

@strong lion #avatar-help message

[strong lion]

Thats what I need xD but how lol

[timber wharf]

rotation constraint on base of that chain to the leg under it

so when you lift your leg that part of skirt just lifts as well before physbone is involved

[native lake]

i don’t find my personal toogle

[hidden loom]

what is the character limit for avatar descriptions?

I figured it out by trial and error, it appears to be 1k characters

[unreal vale]

i cant lock my matriels in..

[night ember]

ask in the poiyomi discord

[unreal vale]

my avatar is stuck in a T-Pose?-

[ornate stump]

Does the sdk warn anything?

[unreal vale]

Let me check

im new to all this stuff

[balmy barn]

its generic so T pose it is

[unreal vale]

how do i fix it?

[balmy barn]

find - click fbx , inspector tab , set humanoid if it has a bunch of errrors - fix em

[unreal vale]

uhh

[balmy barn]

a mesh named head - avoid that

[unreal vale]

rename it..?

[balmy barn]

Blender rename - reimport , only had this issue once ever

[unreal vale]

do i have to redo everything..?

[gloomy flint]

Is it alright if someone shows me where on the VRCFury tools I can bake blendshapes, or should I just wait for someone in the discord to eventually reply to my question 😔

[ornate stump]

Just add optimize blendshape component to your avatar.

[gloomy flint]

https://tenor.com/rSpMiViSnJb.gif

oooooh i see it now

[unreal vale]

Idk what I’m doing

[half ice]

how can i take a Bone root from armature and but it on other armature ?

in blender

[left gull]

like they said just take the .fbx back into blender and rename the Head's mesh to something else (like Face) then export back into the project

[unreal vale]

that didnt rlly answer what i asked tho :(

[left gull]

why would you need to redo anything?

[prisma thunder]

Is there any audio link like effect that works in every world?

[daring ivy]

I’m just trying to upload the quest version of an avatar I downloaded and just have no idea what any of these error messages mean

[left wharf]

You need VRCFury to upload. download from vcc -> https://vrcfury.com

[nocturne lark]

can someone please help me learn how to make an avatar for quest? ive never made one before, and just want a personal use avatar that like represents me, sorry

[somber sequoia]

No - Audiolink on your avatar requires specific data from having the Audiolink prefab in the world, it doesn't actually react to music itself.

[buoyant thorn]

why when I have a spring joint on a dragon (on its head it doesnt rotate when spinning around just looks like a stick

like at least face the direction its going 😭

[somber sequoia]

is the head a separate object? is it attached to a bone already?

[buoyant thorn]

its a full dragon same mesh with bones

and physbones to simulate movement

the spring joint is the only thing not working properly

[somber sequoia]

hmm I'm not sure that answered in a useful way

[buoyant thorn]

I aint used spring joints before sorry

[somber sequoia]

Is the thingy on the end of the spring joint attached to the rest of the avatar in any way other than the spring joint?

[buoyant thorn]

yeah

wrist

If thats what you mean

[somber sequoia]

..no

A spring joint has two ends - one I guess is the wrist, and the other is the head?

[buoyant thorn]

ohh

you mean the other rigidbody?

thats it connected to

its*

imma just send a screenshot

[knotty kiln]

hello, people, i have an issue

[somber sequoia]

yeah this doesn't tell me anything useful.

[buoyant thorn]

but thats literally everything with spring joint related stuff on it 😭

I am sorry I don't know what exactly I need to show

[somber sequoia]

I'll try again: The thingy on the end of the spring joint, you said it's the head?

[buoyant thorn]

its placed on the head of the dragon yeah

what is thingy ?

[somber sequoia]

I'm asking this in a very specific way on purpose, and by thingy I meant "game object"

Okay so is the head attached to the avatar in any way other than the spring joint?

[buoyant thorn]

no dont think so

[somber sequoia]

because if it is attached in any other way, it's not going to move with the spring joint like you might think

[buoyant thorn]

I am just confused cause I dont understand completely

[knotty kiln]

whenever i try making an expressions menu for my avatar (I set everything up as usual, i put both expression menu and expression parameters in my avatar descripter, everything in my animator controller is set up correctly like the usual, everything has been double checked, everything. However, when I test the avatar in unity (mind you that the camera is pointing to the model) the model just vanishes when i go to gesture manager in playmode and literally NOTHING happens when i try to select and preview my toggles, and when i upload or test the avatar in vrchat, the expression menu controls just show up as "Button Text"

[buoyant thorn]

then it must be attached to something else

well the spring joint is on the prefab of the dragon

not really the head bone

but the prefab origin is around the head location so I thought it was fine

[somber sequoia]

The object on the floppy end of the spring joint must be an object that is not otherwise attached to the avatar, if you want it to flop around.

you can play with constraints though, to pin it in place sometimes, or let it flop other times

[buoyant thorn]

wdym by end of spring joint there is only connected body and thats it

[somber sequoia]

like a yo-yo you could grab

Spring joints have two ends

[buoyant thorn]

the brown cubes?

there is one on the finger and one in the dragon

[somber sequoia]

I don't have unity open at the moment

"in the dragon"?

[buoyant thorn]

yeah at the origin

of the prefab

[somber sequoia]

is the dragon your avatar?

[buoyant thorn]

no

but the anchor is in the dragon

[somber sequoia]

I don't know what's going on here I guess.

[buoyant thorn]

and connceted anchor is on the finger

on the main avatar

like its a person having a dragon fly around ig?

[somber sequoia]

OH

I thought the dragon was the avatar

[buoyant thorn]

oh lol

nah its Geto Suguru

[somber sequoia]

that was SO not clear 🙂

no idea what that is, but okay

[buoyant thorn]

I just wanted a dragon I could use that could fly around

with the help of my finger

[somber sequoia]

so okay, the spring joint is attached to the avatar's finger on one end, and the dragon's root on the other end?

[buoyant thorn]

yeah

[somber sequoia]

cool, that makes sense

[buoyant thorn]

it just doesnt rotate with the way

its going

so it looks kinda stupid

[somber sequoia]

yeah I'm looking at my own spring joint, one sec

[buoyant thorn]

• it also slowly goes to the point of my finger 😭

[somber sequoia]

ah I have the freeze rotation checkboxes checked, but mine is just a ball

[buoyant thorn]

so now it just looks like im holding it

yeah I unchecked the rotation to see if itd fix it but nope

[somber sequoia]

yeah otherwise I have about those settings - definitely haven't tried anything with rotation, I figured it'd work

but I bet you could put the dragon on an object with a physbone on it

[buoyant thorn]

but would that work the same lol

[somber sequoia]

no I mean on the end of the spring joint

spring joint -> [object with rigid body and physbone] -> dragon

but that's probably not going to do what I think

[buoyant thorn]

@somber sequoia https://gyazo.com/c590c2e7733427e02b8990d63fe966f8

I got a gif here

it wont rotate like the dragon itself

I wish it would rotate towards the direction its facing

[somber sequoia]

yeah I figured that's what it'd look like, that's annoying, I thought it would work

[buoyant thorn]

i wonder if there is a way to make it work

[buoyant thorn]

how about a look at constraint?

just thought about it idk if itd work

[somber sequoia]

huh, maybe if you had it reversed so the back looked at the finger

[trim scaffold]

What's the best way to add clothing? As its own FBX/armature, or baked into the base's FBX and armature?

[somber sequoia]

I add in blender and export it all together in one FBX for the whole avatar.

[feral isle]

Anyone able to help with this?

[somber meadow]

Try uploading with a different thumbnail, safest thing would just be a capture from the scene

[hushed egret]

Does anyone know of a tool/way to remove unused blendshapes in unity itself?

[somber meadow]

VRCFury's Blendshape Optimizer component is the best due to being non-destructive

[hushed egret]

Thank you!

[feral isle]

worked, thanks!

[pine aurora]

any idea what i do

[pseudo sparrow]

Could anyone help me change my avatars hair mat/color? I’m a bit confused on how to change it/add the new color as a option

[balmy barn]

wheres your avatar from cause you missing alot (||alsoniceavatarnamethere||)

[wind stone]

how would one go about making a toggle to switch to a different gesture based facial expression set

i have multiple characters for my avatar and i want them to each have different facial expressions

[pseudo sparrow]

I could really use the help, I don’t know much about unity 😭

[golden cave]

You should go check on YouTube for a tutorial, I think this is the simplest option for you

Hi
2 or 3 days ago, my the unity was fine... but recently
I noticed a weird behavior with flaot values. Specifically with radial puppets.

Let's say that i'm creating a a new empty project and that I add an avatar with no animations or menu. The only package that I will add is gesture manager.

I will create a single animation clip with 3 frames. The first one is a cube that have scale = 0. The second one is scale = 1, and the third one is scale = 2.
I will also create a float value named "A" and add my animation clip into a animator controller. I will use the float value "A" on the section 'motion clip' of my scale animation.
I will, of course do the proper setup with the menu (use a radial puppet) and add the expression parameter ("A" is syc).
IN UNITY
If I use gesture manager, everything work perfectly fine.

INGAME
On my side, everything works!. When I put the radial puppet to 0% the cube is gone, when I put the radial puppet at 50%. The scale is 1, and when I put the radial puppet to 100%, this scale is 2.
On the side of everyone else,each time that I m selecting the radial puppet, it goes to 100% for 1 sec and then go back where it s suppose to be...

I have no clue what the problem is...

Does anyone have any idea...

[pine aurora]

its from vrmodels

[balmy barn]

known page that host stolen assets , dont use anything from there

ripped stuff

[pseudo sparrow]

Anyone know how to fix this? It’s preventing me from uploading.

[balmy barn]

none of those matter, look for red errors & exit prefab view if you in it (cant tell - background usually blue)

[daring ivy]

what’s like the average amount of polygons a good avatar has

[balmy barn]

<70k , for quest i try to get <20k pref 10k - get annoyed if i cant get it lower

[hushed patrol]

im trying to publish my first avatar. but its saying i need to spend more time on the app. is that time on unity or time in the game?

and how long do i need to wait

[arctic ginkgo]

it's not just waiting, you need to play vrchat and hang out with people

talk to people, join public instances, make friends

[hushed patrol]

ah ok thx

[prisma thunder]

Still need help?

[pseudo sparrow]

i think i figured it out, boutta test it rq

[stone coral]

Why do my textures and toggles do this?

all of the materials are the last animation i did for them?

[pseudo sparrow]

looks like i do, it didn't work

[pseudo sparrow]

i applied the color to the hair but it won't show up

[prisma thunder]

Could i see?

[pseudo sparrow]

I even tried resetting the avatar

[prisma thunder]

Give me a second to get to my house

[pseudo sparrow]

alright, ill have to reopen unity and all that

[prisma thunder]

Have you tried testing in play mode?

Oh wait

[pseudo sparrow]

no, i don't know much abt unity and YouTube is like my worst enemy

[prisma thunder]

In vrchat, did you enter a different avatar then return to the original after the new upload?

[pseudo sparrow]

i tried that too, did nothing, i even attached the blueprint ID, but i don't think i added the color to the slider in game (idk how to do that)

[prisma thunder]

Ok, so what exactly are you trying to do here

Make a hair color toggle?

Or change the base hair color?

[pseudo sparrow]

to where all the hairs will be the purple color, or at least be able to slide it to the purple color i want

[prisma thunder]

So you wanna change the base color?

[pseudo sparrow]

i think so?

[north dagger]

when i start recording an animation, the head of my avatar floats to the ground. is that gonna affect anything?

[prisma thunder]

Just the head?

Or the whole body

[north dagger]

just the head

[pseudo sparrow]

this is what it looks like in unity

[prisma thunder]

wtf

It (shouldnt?) affect anything

[pseudo sparrow]

it doesn't have an icon like the rest does on the mat

[prisma thunder]

Found some hair textures, for later use ofc (gonna help you with this issue rn)

https://wetcat.gumroad.com/l/75hairtex

Theres the link 😂

[prisma thunder]

Top middle, you see the start icon?

[pseudo sparrow]

ty

[prisma thunder]

Click that, and wait for it to load.

Then click "Scene"

[pseudo sparrow]

bruh its a rar file 😭 that thing would never delete on my old laptop (the rar program)

[prisma thunder]

If you have your purple hair, then that upload should work

[north dagger]

seems it might be actually effecting something! or maybe im dumb. im trying to make and on toggle, and it just isnt working

[pseudo sparrow]

huh?

oh nvm

im slow

[pseudo sparrow]

its still not purple

[prisma thunder]

Hm

[pseudo sparrow]

this is what happened after i clicked play then scene again

[prisma thunder]

Wtf

😭

[pseudo sparrow]

is there a way to add it to the hair colors slider? 😭

cuz this unity stuff is so weird

[prisma thunder]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1RwDNpyGMVNDuUbu-77rZt-7fY2YqSIJO?usp=drive_link just a file of mats

[balmy barn]

vrmodel user

[prisma thunder]

After watching the video, i tried to minimize unity.

[pseudo sparrow]

ty 🙏

[pseudo sparrow]

huh?

[prisma thunder]

ppl hate on the dumbest shit 😭

[north dagger]

my friend sent me earrings from there i just wanted zoro earrings, someone uploaded it there for free its THEIR asset they made

[balmy barn]

most here that know stuff dont help people who grab stolen assets from that page

[north dagger]

the asset isnt stolen

its low poly earrings

[prisma thunder]

Lucky for them, I don't know shit :3

Most that don't help others, don't know shit

[north dagger]

its honestly not that serious, if somethings free online people are gonna use it im just trying to do a toggle lmfao

[prisma thunder]

Ong

[light charm]

💀

[pseudo sparrow]

unity just doesn't want me to have more hair color options 😔

[prisma thunder]

Soooooo

How fix my headpats 3:

[austere bay]

it's not really ethical to use a site that profits off of stolen work though

they have leaked avatars and assets on there that shouldn't be on there

by using their site you're promoting stealing people's work

[north dagger]

i took one earring asset :) THAT WAS FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

the person who uploaded it maaadde it

[austere bay]

yes but you just shouldn't use the site. Also, I've heard stuff about them putting malware and other harmful stuff in their files.

you can risk it if you want but like thulen said, most people won't help when stuff goes wrong </3

[north dagger]

womp womp, anyways is anyone gonna help me?

[austere bay]

are you just trying to make material toggles for the hair?

[pseudo sparrow]

yes

[austere bay]

am I reading it right that the avatar came with hair toggles? but they're broken and you're trying to fix them?

[pseudo sparrow]

they aren't broken, im just unaware on how to add more

[austere bay]

oh okay, have you made the materials?

[pseudo sparrow]

wait i think i might've figured it out, is there a way for me to use the sliders without having to upload first so that way i can test it?

[austere bay]

what do you mean?

are you using vrcfury? bc if you are i cant help T-T

[pseudo sparrow]

like yk how you can go in vrc and use the sliders menu to change hair? is there a way i can test that inside unity?

[austere bay]

yes, install gesture manager

[pseudo sparrow]

where do i get that?

[austere bay]

there's tutorials on how to use it, they let you test the menu in unity

I think you can install it in vrc creator companion

if not, just Google it and you'll find it :)

[pseudo sparrow]

oki ty

[craggy wharf]

Does anyone know what these failed sevurity checks for avis are about? my friend uploaded a green alien that they created in blender that is completely innocent and it said it failed the securtiy check

[pseudo sparrow]

do i add avatar gestures 3.0 or just gesture manager?

[austere bay]

should be gesture manager

[pseudo sparrow]

oki tysm

[austere bay]

I'm not at my pc at the moment so can't check for sure sorry :(

check YouTube though, there's really helpful videos on it!

[austere bay]

is there anything in the error log?

[craggy wharf]

no. it uploaded and once they got in game they clicked on it and said failed security checks

[austere bay]

it could be an optimisation issue, what's the avatar look like in terms of polys and bones?

[craggy wharf]

barely anything

[austere bay]

I'd recommend maybe removing animation layers and trying again?

if you could send a screenshot of the specs anyway that would be great. maybe it's something you've just not noticed?