avatar-help

[arctic ginkgo]

you actually don't have to enforce tpose btw

[somber meadow]

scale your textures down if they're above 4k. 2k with High Quality compress (BC7) is still smaller and looks almost the same

[somber sequoia]

#avatar-optimization is also a good place to look, there's been lots of discussion on this.

[inner ingot]

Understood, thank you again! Hopefully that is all it was.

[somber meadow]

Depends if the FBX is posed with a perfect T-Pose in blender

[arctic ginkgo]

i always thought you did but it still recognizes everything corrently, it's just unity letting you know that it doesn't think your avatar is in tpose

[half ice]

thanks

[arctic ginkgo]

no even if it's not in tpose at all it still recognizes everything correctly

it'll complain about it not being in tpose but it works even if you don't enforce it

[somber meadow]

Won't Unity yell at you with rig import errors and just use the previous working rig

[sturdy kestrel]

why is VRC telling me to map OPTIONAL bones?

[somber meadow]

those aren't optional

to Unity, sure. But it's needed for VRChat's IK

[sturdy kestrel]

they have the optional icon

[arctic ginkgo]

the reason i say this is because some avatars will benefit from this, especially in the fingers and thumb specifically

[sturdy kestrel]

ah

well that sucks

[arctic ginkgo]

no it works fine

[sturdy kestrel]

because this Sandslash has no bones for that

[arctic ginkgo]

i do this a lot because unity's tpose bends my thumbs up and makes them flatter than they are supposed to be

[sturdy kestrel]

what can I do?

[inner ingot]

Tried what you sent, unfortunately that didn’t work.

[arctic ginkgo]

i'd reccomend posing your avatar into a tpose in blender if it isn't already, that way the tpose is one that works for your character

and the pose your model is in in blender will be the default pose in unity when you import and when you click pose>reset

[somber meadow]

is the torso bent in the rig configurator?

[arctic ginkgo]

add the neccessary bones

you don't have to weight paint them

and they don't have to be long

just add them

[inner ingot]

Everything is fine from what he said.

[sturdy kestrel]

I....unfortunately dont know how to do that

[arctic ginkgo]

do you know how to use blender?

[sturdy kestrel]

a little bit, but barely

[inner ingot]

Apparently the head and feet are missing according to Unity’s rig section

[sturdy kestrel]

but yea. only a little bit

definitely not enough to make a rig

[arctic ginkgo]

well it's already made, you just need to edit it a bit

look up a rigging tutorial and you should be able to figure it out, you're just adding 3 new bones

[sturdy kestrel]

k

[sturdy kestrel]

👁️

how the hell do people make these

[somber sequoia]

wow

[sturdy kestrel]

no luck with figuring out rigging via tutorials either

[inner ingot]

Ok so last update, apparently everything is fine in Unity’s rig configurator, but the SDK says it’s missing the head and feet.

[somber sequoia]

honestly, it looks like it's reasonably rigged, it's just that all the bone tails are pointing up instead of inline like we're used to for the VRChat situation. Probably wasn't originally rigged with Blender, and almost certainly not for VR.

[sturdy kestrel]

Maybe not BUT

I need to add shoulders and a neck to it's rig

how do I do that

it's not gonna move the spines when it's finished mind you

as in, they wont move

could probably delete the bones for the spikes tbh

[somber sequoia]

go in edit mode, find the appropriate bone (chest/upper-chest), 'e' to extrude a bone from that one.

re-parent the arm bone to be a child bone of the shoulder bone. Also see #avatar-rigging

[sturdy kestrel]

👁️

thats alotta words

[sturdy kestrel]

E doesnt work but i'll figure it out

actually lemme try again

[somber sequoia]

note: e, not E

(will continue over there)

[grizzled crow]

If I have multiple animations for an avatar that I want to randomly toggle, how do I trigger them randomly?

[somber sequoia]

VRC Animator Parameter Driver can generate random numbers

[rocky moon]

How do I add animations and model changes in the expressions tab?

[somber meadow]

as in your expression menu in game?

[rocky moon]

Yeah

Let me explain exactly what I want to acheive

I want in my avatar an animation toggle for my character to hit the virtual insanity pose and slowly slide forward

[somber sequoia]

hah! that'll be fun

[rocky moon]

Alright so I've been looking through a bunch of guides on youtube on how to add animations and all of them show you how to add anim files, not how to create them

[somber sequoia]

in Unity, right click in project window, Create -> Animation

[zinc dagger]

how can i add multiple textures

bc theres 3 in the whole modl

[somber sequoia]

For what purpose, you mean to swap different colors?

[somber meadow]

looks like their glasses/hair use a different material

[zinc dagger]

nah its just i made it with different textures

[somber meadow]

you'd need to make a new material for those slots and assign the texture inside the material

[zinc dagger]

how exactly?

nvm, thank you

[rocky moon]

How do I pose it?

[somber sequoia]

watch a tutorial video on this, it'd be far better than text

[rocky moon]

That's the problem

I can't find one

They all talk about how to import

I just wanna pose my silly goober to do the Virtual insanity thing

But all of them say "Here take this .anim file and slap it in, you can call it a day from there"

[somber sequoia]

So you don't already have this pose, you want to make it from scratch?

[rocky moon]

Yes

[somber sequoia]

I'd do that in Blender, it's way easier to animate there.

have you ever made an animation of any sort before?

[rocky moon]

Not really

[somber sequoia]

ah. ok this is going to be a bit of a learning curve 🙂

[rocky moon]

Well, It's just gonna be a one frame thing so probably not that bad

Cause I can just slowly move forward myself no?

[somber sequoia]

sure

[gusty sequoia]

Made changes to an avatar in blender, and reimported into unity, replacing the fbx. Added some bones to the armature and a mesh for those bones. Now in unity, the skinned mesh renderers on the avatar prefab are completely invisible, but the fbx itself seems fine. Is there a convenient way to fix this?

[tender ingot]

do u guys know how to fix the avatar being like purple/pink in the blender ?

[somber sequoia]

pink = broken or incorrect shader, or possibly missing textures. You'll have to inspect the material to find out.

[somber sequoia]

Was your avatar prefab unpacked in Unity?

[tender ingot]

ohh yea it is, do u know any way to fix it?

[somber sequoia]

yeah, drag a new model into the scene, copy everything over to it, and don't unpack it in the future

[gusty sequoia]

The prefab is not unpacked. At least, the text on it being blue, and the arrow to modify it, should be indication of that? This is within the hierarchy

[somber sequoia]

oh - sorry, I replied to the wrong thing.

[somber sequoia]

Not without knowing what's broken, which is why I said to go look there.

[tender ingot]

ya i figured that out !!

[frigid void]

what does this mean?

[somber sequoia]

Cool, then it's not the obvious problem. Are the mesh objects actually there and invisible, or completely absent?

[somber sequoia]

Don't have a mesh object the same name as a humanoid bone. Rename the mesh named Head

[gusty sequoia]

all of the mesh objects are there, and retain all of their materials, references, blendshapes, etc

[frigid void]

What do I rename it to

[somber sequoia]

not Head

(or any other name of a humanoid bone)

[somber sequoia]

not sure I've seen this! maybe redo the rig setup

[next yew]

how can i make the same glow/emission effect for dark enviorments for this avatars wings and eye?

[tender ingot]

thank u kazin u r the helper

[somber sequoia]

sometimes I have some answers 🙂

[frigid void]

ok, do I do it in blender

[tender ingot]

youve been massive help trust

[somber sequoia]

I would

[tender ingot]

but ummm i did figure out what textures r missing im not sure what to do from here . .

im so new to this LOL

[kind topaz]

how do i download a small avi model

[rocky moon]

I have the pose, so what now?

[loud geode]

Hi Everybody! Im having some trouble with avatar organisation. I dont want to have a seperate project for each varent I make of the same avatar, but I find that If I import an avatar, then duplicate, changes made such as the shader for quest compatibilty track from one to the other.

[somber sequoia]

make a different avatar for quest, I keep those in separate scenes, but you don't have to.

[somber sequoia]

I really can't do a tutorial right now

[rocky moon]

That's fine

[loud geode]

SO How do you mean Scenes? drag an avatar scene into the Hierarchy under Main Camera and Direction Light, im guesing that all consists of the default scnee I load into.

So I can have multiple scenes per project and VRCSDK wont care?

[somber sequoia]

File -> new scene. Each avatar is treated separately already by the SDK, scenes are just helpful for you to organize things.

[kind topaz]

How do i fix this

[loud geode]

Thank you I think this is making a lot of sense. I am plkaying with scenes now

[left gull]

broken/missing shader, either import the correct one required for the avatar or switch all the used materials to another shader

[spark walrus]

hello! So my friend wanted one avi in game and i helped him upload with my other friend.

The issue is - when we are adding gogo loco something weird happens (video)

Anyone knows how to fix it? Without gogo loco it works perfect.

My friend dont have sadly fullbody tracking so gogoloco helps him!
(pls ping me with response because i have notifications off)

[somber meadow]

How is gogoloco installed on the avatar? Through VRCFury or manually

[spark walrus]

vrcfury

no wait - sorry

We manually putted it in unity

And putting it on avis

Before it worked with other 5 avis

We use create companion with vrcfury in it

[somber meadow]

I'd recommend installing it through VRCFury, it makes installing it was easier and modular. Clear out all the manual installation and use the VRCFury prefab that's in the gogoloco folder

[spark walrus]

we used right now (on video) the vrcfury prefab gogo loco

[somber meadow]

so you didn't do it manually

[spark walrus]

can you please elaborate? im sorry its just that im new to all to this

We have vrcfury in creator companion, but it didnt had any folderwith gogoloco. So we putted in gogoloco.unity or something like that

as separate

it had already vrcfury in it

[somber meadow]

I'm assuming your gogoloco installation isn't correct. Search "Gogo" in your project tab and delete every folder named GoGo. Then import the latest GoGoLoco unitypackage again

[spark walrus]

give moment

[spark walrus]

I have a list of errors for the avatar I bought and I'm brand new and have no idea how to fix them. 😓

[spark walrus]

okay so uh we did 3 times new projects and it .. just worked?

[somber meadow]

You need VRCFury imported

[spark walrus]

Do I have to remake the project to use it?

[somber meadow]

no

https://vrcfury.com/download/

add it to VCC and import it in the project with the instructions on the page

[spark walrus]

Okay, it's uploading now thank you

[next yew]

how can i make a toggle so the wings can fold and open?

[wraith quiver]

so, wanted to know if anyone knows how to fix this vrc quest tool thing?? when i convert the avatar it absolutely screws up the textures
(not only the face, but also the body and the clothes)

help???? what can i do to NOT have this happen

i feel like its a very stupid question that is very popular but i still wanna make sure 🫡

[spark walrus]

Last thing, if I bought Poi pro, do I have to add both versions I downloaded or just one?

I only have 7 do I need to also install 9 for these errors or is it okay?

[somber meadow]

You only need to import the bottom package in this screenshot

[steel pike]

anyone else having issues with unity not sending them the authentication email when trying to upload an avatar? i have the right email and password but its not sending me the email, meanwhile it sent me an email verification link when i tried to make sure i had the right email on site

[rocky axle]

So i new to VRC parental Constraints, I manage to figure out how to station it to worlds but When it comes to reseting it. I need help,
Currently:
When toggled on, It locks it in the world.
Issue: When toggling it off, Unless the User is in the Same spot, when Retoggling it, It doesnt reset to its Orginal Postion
I have the Rebaked offsets on Be default, but i dont seem to understand if it works or not. I trying to make it
Reset to default every time somone toggles it off so they dont have to move to the Same spot, every time to toggle it off. Or Reset the avatar. to reset the postion.

[spark walrus]

Is there any way to fix this?

[left gull]

merge materials,lower tris count,lower texture resolution, merge meshes then re-upload the model

[spark walrus]

Would that make it look more low res?

[balmy barn]

about an hour in blender

[spark walrus]

And is it bad if I just use it like this?

[left gull]

only if you make it look that way

[static cipher]

Having an issue with my avatar where unless I use Fallback Shaders, moving makes my avatar offset about 1/4m forwards until I stop moving. I used to be using Poiyomi but swapped back to VRChat's default Toon Shader recently. Anyone know what could be the solution for my issue?

[left gull]

and yes it'd be bad

[balmy barn]

would be guesswork , looks like someone just bashed a bunch of meshes in unity and didnt check vram usage/type

dx1/bc7 ect

[spark walrus]

Welp I have NO idea where to even begin with that lmao

Is there anyone who I could DM for help? I don't want to clog up the chat

[left gull]

you could use automatic tools like Polytool or VRCQuesttools if its too much though the outcome can be iffy

[idle scroll]

Hey; so I have a question. I'm making a model and while attempting to set the model up as a humanoid rig in unity I'm running into this error, and I'm unsure of how to correct it... any help would be appreciated!

ambiguous transform 'armature/hips/spine' and spine found in hierarchy for human bone 'spine'. Transform name mapped to a human bone must be unique.

[balmy barn]

2 things named the same, spine & spine (mesh and bone likely)

[idle scroll]

So renaming the mesh would liely correct this?

[balmy barn]

yep

avoid having humanoid bones named anywhere but a bone

Had it once when i forgot to rename a mesh

[idle scroll]

OKay, so I just attempted to do that, renamed the spine portion to a new name and attempted to reconfigure the bone map and it's still giving me the same error.

is it because the mesh still has the anme spine in it even though it's prefaced by something else?

[stuck agate]

textures are crunched and lowered rez
removed space
and i tried this %temp%\defaultcompany

[next yew]

still needing help with this

[stuck agate]

simple animation

[next yew]

unsure how to do that :(

[stuck agate]

just need record you opening the wings

need too**

[next yew]

in blender or?

ive never done this

[stuck agate]

in unity

i can move the bone of the wing

[slender tundra]

how do i fix this, its keeping the build tab from loading on the control panel

[next yew]

i still cannot figure it out

[slim jewel]

im getting this funky error when i import this model
the fbx nor the prefab wont load

[static cipher]

bump

[steel pike]

nvm i figured it out

[sturdy kestrel]

despite removing accessories, unity tells me I have 5 material slots. how can I lower this number?

[night ember]

check every material slot you are using

[sturdy kestrel]

Im unsure how to do that properly D:

[night ember]

using the same material is still different material slots

[sturdy kestrel]

D:

okay so

i got a backpack, two crowbars, and the moth itself

and some particles but the crowbar is quest compatible

im just confused since i've uploaded quest avatars with several materials (such as an avali with a hat, two guns, a head AND a bandana, all with different materials/textures...i think)

I dont need the backpack tho tbh

[left gull]

id imagine its not lowering because each of those items are seperated from each other which in turn makes each item have its own slot

[sturdy kestrel]

i deleted the backpack yet nothing has changed

[night ember]

each and every material is its own slot no matter if its the same material or not

[sturdy kestrel]

👁️

you've lost me here

[night ember]

everything that needs to render has material slots

particles have materials

[sturdy kestrel]

kayyy...

but how do i know how much one specific model is using

[night ember]

the renderer tells you?

[sturdy kestrel]

renderer?

[night ember]

its atleast one per thing

[sturdy kestrel]

im not very good with unity

if you cannot tell

anyway-

alot of this is alien for me

where is this "renderer"

[night ember]

on the meshes and particles

[left gull]

^^ select the mesh/particle and in the inspector tab it should have a mesh renderer component

you may have to open a material dropdown to see the materials each item uses though

[sturdy kestrel]

okay well here's the weird part

[left wharf]

lilAvatarUtils might helps you
It can show all materials, all skinned mesh renderers, and all textures in your avatar

[sturdy kestrel]

Each piece Unity highlights only uses 1 each

Body. One material. each crowbar, one material each

the backpack is gone

[night ember]

now is it actually 1 or did you just use the same material on multiple slots

and there are still the particles

[foggy hornet]

I got a question for y'all. Which eye looks better?

[night ember]

right

[foggy hornet]

That's what I thought too, I just wanted a second opinion.

[night ember]

its actually visible in the right one

[sturdy kestrel]

okay i dunno what I deleted but now there are four material slots 👁️

[left gull]

you said you deleted the backpack earlier

[sturdy kestrel]

yes but i wasnt sure that was it since the first time i deleted it nothing happened

[left gull]

is it not updating the count every time you open the SDK panel back up?

[sturdy kestrel]

i reset the model to try it again because of a bug anyway it's whatevz

we'll see if I can sort it this time

[quartz rapids]

Hello, i was interested in making one of those avatars that is basically an animated character model stuck to an invisible rig with said character model having its own animations (CroissantDev's animated Mario 64 comes to mind) so it looks like you're controlling a game character from an entirely different game. I have never made an avatar before but i have modeled a non humanoid character for what i want.

[foggy hornet]

Anybody familiar with VRCLens?

[night ember]

wheres the question in this?

[quartz rapids]

well i am asking if there is an efficient way to do it.

[night ember]

if you know blender then you could just animate it there

[quartz rapids]

I already made a bunch of animations for my character, so do i just stick it to an invisible rig and mess around with settings or...?

[night ember]

"invisible rig"?

[quartz rapids]

Like i said, i'm new to all of this. I see a lot of those animated avatars so i'd assume it'd be fairly simple to do.

[night ember]

do you mean a humanoid rig or what

[quartz rapids]

humanoid.

[night ember]

if you dont plan on using tracking at all then you dont really need one

you just make animations then toggle it however you want to

[quartz rapids]

are you referring to adding in animations that you activate with the expressions menu?

[night ember]

thats one way to do it sure

[quartz rapids]

Im more so looking to how you could entirely replace the default idle, walk, run, etc animations with custom ones

[night ember]

again just animate it

the entirety of the locomotion is parameters that vrchat has by default

[quartz rapids]

you just fiddle around with this "locomotion" thingy?

[night ember]

yea?

[raven orbit]

might help you out to read through the docs for a more detailed explanation of things you can do with avatars https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/playable-layers

[quartz rapids]

Ooh thanks.

[hazy bay]

Anyone know why this is happening? i swear every time I'm in unity i run into a new issue

(his finger bones are all outa wack)

[night ember]

bone rotation which you fix in blender

[hazy bay]

Oh shiit i forgot about that

Thank you!

[tender ingot]

does anybody know how to fix this ? ^^

[left gull]

yuck! gotta lower all those stats to be closer to the limits listed the ones in " ( ) "

[tender ingot]

yea i figured!! im not exactly sure how D:

[night ember]

blender

remove stuff

[left gull]

lower texture resolution,merge material slots/meshes and atlas textures, merge and reweightpaint bones (or remove phybone components though the bones wont move anymore) and decimate the mesh a bit

[night ember]

do stuff properly in blender instead of just slapping stuff onto bones either manually or using a tool like modular or fury

[tender ingot]

gotcha ty!!

[hazy bay]

sorry how do i fix it in blender? I'm not sure what I'm doing is doing anything.

[night ember]

transfer meshes to the avatar's armature so you dont multiply the amount of bones you have with every piece of clothing

join meshes

atlas textures

stop using an excessively high particle count

[zinc dagger]

im not sure with what i did wrong

thats the only option that shows up

[night ember]

what is that avatar name

[left gull]

😨

[zinc dagger]

(his name is nazo, the rig was mispelled)

[tender ingot]

may i ask how to decimate the mesh ?? im so sosorry im new to this

[zinc dagger]

didnt bother to change it lol

[raven orbit]

extremely unfortunate typo

[slim jewel]

bump

[zinc dagger]

good point i should delete before i get banned 😭

but i did figure it out

[slim gale]

what version of everything are you using? are you on the correct unity version / vcc version?

[left gull]

there the decimation modifier though that can get messy

manual decimation is a bit harder to explain though, alot of people ik learned from just messing around in the program but i heavily suggest just taking sections off the piece you're trying to decimate rather then just trying to do it as one big piece

[tender ingot]

nod nod ty!!

grahh im rlly strugglng to figure this outr

[left gull]

heres one redditors explanation that's pretty clean: "Alt+Left click in Edit mode in Blender selects a loop of vertexes. Then just press X and select Edge Loops to remove that loop! Gotta be careful of the UV mapping and the Blender needs to be able to find loops, but you can "easily" cut the poly count of something nearly in half by selecting every other loop and selecting Edge Loop. Kind of time consuming but if you can cut the poly count of something in half it's really useful and worth playing around with to figure out."

[hazy bay]

anyone here know how to fix rotation on finger bones?

[upbeat mauve]

why is the camera in a different position?

[slim gale]

where is this relevent to your head bone

[night ember]

is your avatar's root actually in the correct place

[slim gale]

try going into the rigging menu, hit "reset" then "enforce tpose" then save

[upbeat mauve]

I made changes to the camera and root but they are not reflected when I publish it

[night ember]

the root is changed in blender

[upbeat mauve]

aaa ok

[upbeat mauve]

Here begins the rig

[tender ingot]

would anyone be able to maybe call and ican stream so i can be walked through this LOL

[short ferry]

whenever I try to build and test my avatar, it just gets stuck like this. I can interact with the control panel too which I shouldn't be able to

I also looked at the console and it says recovered 0 network IDs, is that bad?

anyone else having this problem?

[raven orbit]

restart unity

[short ferry]

I have

several times

[slim jewel]

nope ssfff ty ty sorry

[heady raptor]

need blender help the hair looks fine in the material mode (aka eevee) but in cycles looks like that with the black spots as if the alpha is failing, apart from all the other materials not looking quite right too

hmm the pink is coming from the teeth lacking textures so ignore that

the most issue is the damn hair really

[hazy bay]

Sorry, it wasnt working

[heady raptor]

solution was this simple

[signal notch]

Hey I am new to PC stuff and VR stuff completely. I grew up on consoles. But I recently got a VR and I was wanting to make a cute avatar for VR chat but I have no idea what I am doing. I’m in the midst of learning the pc and vr world. Any help is appreciated. I simply want to make a cute avatar😭

[night ember]

blender

[grave iron]

hi there, im currently uploading an avatar, it uploads succesfully in unity but in vrchat it i guess un uploads itself, im not sure what the issue would be

[heady raptor]

how come?

[grave iron]

ive got no clue

[short ferry]

So I tried another avatar on the same unity project and it uploaded just fine

[ornate stump]

Does it show up either in game or in website?

[grave iron]

the picture is there but its greyed out bc its unavailable like it deleted itself

but unity says it uploads succesfully

it says security check failed

[heady raptor]

screenshots?

[night ember]

avatar stats?

[grave iron]

ats all zero

[ornate stump]

That isn't even zero. You have to check avatar stat in the sdk when you uploading it.

[heady raptor]

wAht

yeah, the upload details

[grave iron]

there no check stats in unity

[ornate stump]

When you uploading in the sdk, in the validation section.

Performance stats that is.

[night ember]

in unity

[night ember]

scroll up and show the top most stuff

[grave iron]

thats all there is

[ornate stump]

one million polygons that's why it would fail.

[grave iron]

theres a lot of avatars with over a million polygons

none of them have failed

[night ember]

over 1 million polygons
55 skinned mesh renderers
136 materials
155 physbones
over 700 transforms
over 500 collisions
over 600 bones

[ornate stump]

Also you're using outdated sdk which doesn't report uncompressed size and allowed the excessively large avatar to be uploaded, which will cause security check failed later.

[grave iron]

I have no choice to use outdated. The avatar uses this sdk

[ornate stump]

This avatar can't be use as it is then.

Because it's excessively large uncompressed size.

[grave iron]

So you recommend I reduce textures?

[night ember]

you can very easily just use a newer sdk

[night ember]

reduce your avatar in general

[grave iron]

Creator says otherwise

[ornate stump]

You could try, but this would not be enough.

[night ember]

older avatars can freely be used in newer sdk versions

the only time you cant is if you use specific sdk betas like the vrc constraints which break if you try and update to a newer sdk version

[heady raptor]

yes

[grave iron]

So if an avatar was built using 2019. It can go into 2022?

[night ember]

yea?

[heady raptor]

yes

you can safely update

[grave iron]

I’m not sure

[heady raptor]

just update

[ornate stump]

The only issue is where the author include extra tool packages which could break in newer version. But you could just remove them if it broke.

[heady raptor]

look how many i got and i updated almost them all to 2022 safely.

i had no issues

including a map within there

[grave iron]

I’ve never changed versions. And never had an issue till this one

[heady raptor]

it's better you change

[grave iron]

I have over 200 Avis uploaded and never went against upload instructions

[heady raptor]

2022 is safe to update and it's for the better

[ornate stump]

Issue will always can happen.

[heady raptor]

2019 is currently very outdated, remember vrchat updated too so it's better suited for 2022 unity

[grave iron]

Doesn’t mean the avatar is suited for 2022

[heady raptor]

that's not true

it will port safely

all mine were 2019

[ornate stump]

Not sure why you're asking for a solution and you kept arguing that wasn't a solution.

[night ember]

the only difference between 2019 and 2022 for avatars is the fact you dont get new updates anymore

[grave iron]

I’ll try using 2022 and I’ll let you know how it goes

[heady raptor]

good

[night ember]

that avatar still would need to be seriously optimized

[grave iron]

I’m only concerned about megabits if the megabits are too large to upload I’ll reduce texture quality

[ornate stump]

"megabytes"

[tacit vine]

did you find the solution to this?

[night ember]

the fact all of your stats are excessively beyond very poor can also cause it to fail

[grave iron]

Possibly

We’ll see when I try in 2022

[obtuse elk]

my hierarchy shat itself

[tiny dock]

how do you add animations to an avatar

i have a simple animation that spins a component of the character and i'd like it to loop constantly

[upbeat mauve]

The camera is too far back, how do I fix it?

[half ice]

how can i know whats the size of my avatar MB

[grave iron]

2022 worked it was just 150 mb over so i just reduced some textures

[somber sequoia]

I hope someday we can see the stats of an avatar before downloading it.

[haughty galleon]

Does anyone have a good tutorial for quest compatible particles?

[night ember]

the only difference between the particles is you need to use the vrc/mobile shaders

[reef root]

What type of base model does this use

[somber sequoia]

#1138520828556890214 is the best place to ask

[reef root]

Good point

[reef cove]

My friends avatars started breaking when adding something to the head bone. That new object will become selected when choosing anything in the armature, so even if you click the chest bone, it will show it as being inside the head, with the new object highlighted. Same for the hip and chest. When rotating any bones in the armature, the new object is the new pivot point.
Merely setting the object to disabled fixes this issue and the armature works like usual again. It's only when the prefab is placed on the head that this bug occurs.
Do they need to make a new project?

Maybe they clicked some dumb setting we don't know about

[ornate stump]

Set tool pivot settings at the top of scene panel.

[reef cove]

Oh, it's Irumi! Hi ^^ And thank you! We will try that

That fixed it, thank you!
The hotkey for that is Z. When pressing ctrl+z they accidentally toggled it.

[frigid pier]

When I’m in vrc on pc everyone is needed for me to change their shield level even tho I have everything on. Anyone got any fixes?

[somber meadow]

This is more of a question for #1138891887374237706

[frigid pier]

Shite

My fault

[rancid light]

i guess this is more of a general unity Blender question but is there any easy way to mirror the knife tool?

feels like im missing something simple i can do to mirror it

[ornate stump]

Knife tool in unity, or blender?

[rancid light]

blender

OH yeah i sure did say unity didnt i, mb LOL

[raven orbit]

normal method for that would be using a mirror modifier on your mesh. if you have to work without the mirror modifier, this is what I do: enable mirror option in edit mode, make cuts only between vertices, and make the same cuts on both sides. if you need a vertex put in the middle of a face, you'd cut an X pattern between the verts and edge slide the vertex into position, then dissolve unwanted edges

assuming the original mesh is already mirrored

[tender ingot]

does anyone know how to reduce polygons/triangles ? i cant figure out at all

[ornate stump]

You have edit mesh to delete unnecessary polygon. And you edit mesh in blender.

[tender ingot]

i cant manage to import it into blender hurmm

[ornate stump]

What prevent you from importing to blender?

[tender ingot]

it just kinda doesnt show up ??

[ornate stump]

How did you import?

Also you might have to be aware of error message that shown during importing.

[tender ingot]

file import fbx

ya there was a msg but it just was unknown error

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot the error?

[tender ingot]

ya i just got a new one !!

sorry if i sound stupid i am so so new to this LOL

[ornate stump]

This looks like you didn't properly select the fbx file to import.

[tender ingot]

i can look againn

for somereason trhe file doesnt show up??

hhurm

[raven orbit]

you cant open a unitypackage in blender-

[ornate stump]

You are trying to import unity package file so that isn't going to work.

[tender ingot]

ohhh ok mb!! i wasnt sure

im not exactly sure what to import 😓

[raven orbit]

fbx file

[ornate stump]

You import unitypackage file into unity, then you locate the fbx file within your unity project and import into blender.

[tender ingot]

icic!!

[frigid void]

Im having trouble getting hue shift to work on the eyes. Everything else with color is shifting but the eyes aren’t. Ive already re- recorded the animation and made sure the hue was set to the correct number (0 or 1). Im not sure what else to look for. (It is set to animated when locked, and the hue shift box is selected on)

[tender ingot]

i have the fbx its still giving jme the samw issue

hurm

[ornate stump]

Not the same issue if you read the error. That certain fbx file can't be imported into blender.

[tender ingot]

ive tried the normal fbx aswell

is there a way to delete the mesh in unity ?

[ornate stump]

If fbx files are from the same package then it likely not going to import into blender because they would be using the same format.

[tender ingot]

what do u suggest i do??

[ornate stump]

There is some plugin in unity that can remove polygon. But I cannot recommend any because I don't use them.

[tender ingot]

nod nod

[ornate stump]

Or use fbx converter to convert fbx file into blender compatible format.

[tender ingot]

alright!! tysm

[mighty cove]

Whats the pink pupil doing here? The original looks like this

[night ember]

probably another texture in the material

[frigid void]

anyone know what could be wrong?

[solemn saddle]

question -- do i go here to ask about adding sliders (for skin) on avatars (for unity) or do I go somewheres else-

[ornate stump]

Why do you think it couldn't be here?

[solemn saddle]

I don't interact with the server much and haven't really dug too deep into which is which, I saw other channels like development and got lost 😭🙏

[woeful sleet]

Is it possible to export a model from Unity to Blender while keeping the Visemes? I am wanting to edit an avi for my partner, but the visemes dissapear when I exported it out as an FBX

[ornate stump]

According to channel description it's for help with developing avatars.

[solemn saddle]

ohh, I see now , I don't really read those 😭 sorry

[ornate stump]

Does it export with any blendshape at all?

[woeful sleet]

Nope

[ornate stump]

That would mean your model in blender has unapplied modifier that isn't armature modifier.

[solemn saddle]

does anyone know how to make a skin tone slider?? I have this avatar, but it came with 4 different skin tones and they're all separate avatars (not just one avi with a toggle for the skin) and I've never added things on an avatar before (I just buy and upload) so I'm so lost and don't want to have one skin tone-

[mighty cove]

I got it. Turns out there was an option for that in blendshapes

[frigid void]

Do you mean like a radial puppet? You can use a radial puppet to do multiple mat swaps

[solemn saddle]

no clue what that is, but like when you use gesture manager and some avatars will have "skin tones" with a like-- hue shift slider//toggle thing?-

I have no idea what its called, sorry- 😓

[frigid void]

Its ok, that is a radial puppet. All you need to do is record the animation on a duplicate avatar, then set it up in the menu. Do you know how to do that?

[solemn saddle]

nope!

[frigid void]

I can send some tutorials in private messages ^^ (idk if we are allowed to send links in this server)

[solemn saddle]

kk! i added u !!

tysm

[amber gull]

hello can someone help me how to export a head with a hair i have been working on from blender to unity?

[ornate stump]

What had you tried so far?

[amber gull]

i want to transfer it to unity please

[ornate stump]

File > Export > FBX

[amber gull]

i did

tried it

but it doesn't work

[ornate stump]

That's what I asked what you had tried.

[amber gull]

on unity whats the steps

[ornate stump]

How it doesn't work?

[amber gull]

like i exported it

now im on unity what do i click

or just drag the fbx to unity?

[ornate stump]

Just drag the exported fbx file into unity. That's what call "importing file".

[amber gull]

nothing happened

sorry im so new to this

[night ember]

Well is it an fbx

[ornate stump]

You got the file into unity, that's what had happened.

[amber gull]

like i can't see the head on unity and i can't edit it

[ornate stump]

Is it actually an fbx file?

[amber gull]

ok now it shows this with no materials

[ornate stump]

You have to setup materials in unity.

[night ember]

You need to export the textures as pngs if you havent already

[amber gull]

i have not unfortunately

im on blender rn

[junior void]

Well, what did you last add

[naive spoke]

so I can't sign into my account because it needs a code from my authenticator app

i can sign in through steam and play the game but I can't go through the website or sdk to upload my avi

is the only way to reset my 2fa through vrc support?

are their recovery codes in the game files or something?

[tough snow]

Do you not have your authenticator app?

[naive spoke]

no

i don't recall ever setting one up, I usually just have it send the 2fa code to my email

[tough snow]

That's incredibly odd, to set up the authenticator app you would need to have the authenticator app on a separate device and use it to enable it, from memory. I would contact support since there's no other way to access your account without it.

[naive spoke]

when I say it, i mean just in general, not vrc specifically btw

[naive spoke]

i totally could have done that years ago but I don't really remember

i just started getting back into it im the past few months

[mighty cove]

A way to make hair and face match the other textures? (face was fine but wanted to make the eyes glow so i added emission)

[junior void]

is that a question

[mighty cove]

Actual question yeah.

[junior void]

Try using the same shader and shader settings

[gentle drift]

yo

why cant we use vrchat/mobile/lightmapped for android while it says we need to use vrchat/mobile shaders??

[ornate stump]

Lightmapped is for static world object.

[gentle drift]

cuz i want to make collor wheen for my avatar but when i use standard light foor my avis then my face also changes colours and toonlit/matcap are both really dark in slightly darker rooms

[ornate stump]

You could use StandardLite and use its emission instead.

[gentle drift]

i have emmision on the face cuz then its also seeable in the dark rooms

[ornate stump]

Then have emission on every part.

[gentle drift]

wdym

[ornate stump]

Just enable emission for everything.

[gentle drift]

i have but then when i do the collor wheen everything changes

[ornate stump]

That's unfortunate if all materials are in the same object because using animation to change material will affect every other material in the same object.

[gentle drift]

yea thats the prob

is there no way to fix that

[ornate stump]

Separate the mesh into different object.

[gentle drift]

how?

[ornate stump]

Use blender to separate object.

[gentle drift]

idk how to do that

[ornate stump]

Are you able to learn?

[gentle drift]

idk cuz my avatar uses a .asset and idk how to switch that to a .fbx

[balmy barn]

where is this av from

if you dont get a fbx whoever gave it to you scammed

[ornate stump]

That's suspicious if avatar is using .asset for its mesh.

[gentle drift]

y?

[balmy barn]

cause we seen waay to many avatars thats plain ripped , if you dont have a fbx its suss as hell

[gentle drift]

i also hav the .fbx but its just not on my avi thats in my hierarchy

i think

yea i do

[ornate stump]

You'd have to import the fbx file into blender.

[gentle drift]

yea but it wont change it on my avi

cuz that one uses the .asset

[ornate stump]

Start over with the edited fbx file.

[gentle drift]

can i just change m here

[ornate stump]

No.

[gentle drift]

y not?

[balmy barn]

never answear where its from

[ornate stump]

You could try it yourself. Sometime it works, but most the time it doesn't.

[gentle drift]

a friend gave it

it stays the same size and shape

[gentle drift]

.

[ornate stump]

Then that might be good. But more problem would arise if you edited the fbx file.

[gentle drift]

like what?

[ornate stump]

Mainly because the object is doesn't have fbx data link, so updating anything would break it.

[ornate stump]

Most of the time: mesh disappear after editing the fbx file.

[gentle drift]

but it is the original fbx?

havnt changed the .asset to fbx

[ornate stump]

That's irrelevant.

Object in the scene doesn't have fbx data link. So it won't update correctly with the fbx file.

[gentle drift]

so how i changee m?

[ornate stump]

Startover with putting new fbx file into the scene.

[gentle drift]

but i put so much stuff on my avi...

or u mean in blender?

[ornate stump]

In unity.

[gentle drift]

but then i need to remake the whole avi?

[ornate stump]

Yes. Or you could use pumkin avatar tools to copy whatever you added to the avatar over to the new avatar.

[gentle drift]

can u send me it?

[ornate stump]

In the pinned message.

[gentle drift]

does it also fix the material change animations?

[ornate stump]

No.

[gentle drift]

😭

how do i use?

[ornate stump]

Read its github page.

[gentle drift]

how do i do it in blender?

[ornate stump]

For what part?

[gentle drift]

not having the eyes and face in the same mesh so i can make an collor wheel

[ornate stump]

Edit mode on the object, select all the faces, find and use command "separate by material".

[gentle drift]

?

idk how to use blender

[ornate stump]

You can google.

[left gull]

you should watch a video about the basics of blender then, its always good to understand a bit of the program you're working with before trying to do "big" projects in them

[hazy bay]

Does anyone understand how to fix this? i couldn't find anything on yt

(finger bones are the wrong way entirely)

idk how to set the rotation in blender if anyone has any tips 🥲

[gentle drift]

i did it in blender but do u know how to fix the face expressions?

[ornate stump]

Depends on what you meant by "fix".

[gentle drift]

nvm

i fixed it

they just didnt work

[hazy bay]

Pls im begging i know its early asf but 🥺 🫶

[gentle drift]

u know how i can fix so i can put 3 meshes into 1 like the reverse of the seperate by material?

[ornate stump]

Select objects and use Join command.

[gentle drift]

what button for join command?

[ornate stump]

When you want to search for a command, hit F3 to open search box.

[gentle drift]

would cntrl j work?

cuz it joined them

but i dont know if their all now 1 material?

[ornate stump]

If they aren't the same material then they're going to joined as different material in an object.

Check materials in material tab in property panel.

[gentle drift]

ight tghey good thnx

[spark walrus]

I see avi without name plate

how do I get this:>?

[left gull]

they're using a shader on the head that overlays the menu/UI stuff

[somber sequoia]

Which is against TOS

[autumn viper]

Need some help with uploading an avatar i made, experiencing many issues; please dm me

[grizzled crow]

Why would somebody do that? (Other than trolls)

I did see somebody like that using an obnoxiously large avatar, with a hidden nameplate in a meet up world the other day

[ashen crane]

why is it that when i delete the main camera from the scene in unity, it changes the colour of my particle effect??

[left gull]

originally it was mainly used on toxic/crasher avatars so people couldnt see the person using the crasher but ive seen some rare cases where people use it to scare people or for RP stuff

most times though there isnt good intentions behind it

[ashen crane]

horror avatars with this concept would be sick to scare and troll lol

[raven orbit]

umm... doesnt a heart hand gesture kinda already look like a claw when you aren't pairing them up?

[ornate stump]

The first image is showing transition starting from idle position.

[grizzled crow]

yea I understand that...

[proven dome]

how do i fix her body 😭

im definitely struggling

[ornate stump]

Clothing animation makes the body to shrink.

[proven dome]

how do i get rid of the clothing animation?

[ornate stump]

Find the clothing layer in FX layer and remove the layer.

[proven dome]

omg ily thank you

[grizzled crow]

if I want to have a part that can be moved around by touch, but not have that bone fully rotate, how do I do that?

how do I constrain the rotation of a bone?

[inland tree]

how do i change what my avatar looks like when i click reset avatar ?

[green geyser]

first time doing this btw so it’s difficult lol

[green geyser]

parented? and also how do I do that

the armature is matched up to the avatar, if thats what you mean

[grizzled crow]

trying to make the ears be a bit floppy, but it doesnt work

i tried copying the tail's physbone

[feral isle]

Good idea or no?

i can auto-fix skip and stop asking and just skip

[heavy zephyr]

If you know why there's a mix, skip

[feral isle]

I have no idea, it just poped up when i was pressing build

[wild blaze]

is there any possibility i can retexture an avatar when i'm too poor to pay someone or get substance painter

money is a bit tight

[somber sequoia]

Sure, you don't need substance

[wild blaze]

how would i go about that

[somber sequoia]

edit the textures in any 2D image program

[wild blaze]

oh is it really that simple?

[somber sequoia]

basically yeah. Substance just helps you work in 3D

there are free 3d tools also, such as some Blender add-ons or ArmorPaint

[wild blaze]

i see

[grizzled crow]

how do I add multiple physbones? like if I want the ears and tails to move around with motion?

[somber sequoia]

multiple? Just add one phsybone component to the root of the chain (like the tail base) and the rest of the bones in the chain will be affected by default

[grizzled crow]

I have the physbone component on the ear root bone, but it doesnt show up? or should I move the tail physbone compomnent to the tail root as its on the avatar root?

[somber sequoia]

First, turn on gizmos - little globe thingy in the upper-right of the Scene view.

[grizzled crow]

gizmos are on

[somber sequoia]

second, that collision radius might be way small, depends on how your avatar got scaled - try to increase that

Also to note: you don't need to put something in the "root transform" slot if the physbone component is on that bone.

that's for when the component is on some other object

[left gull]

if you're just adding a bunch of random items with VRCFury made by other people then go through each one to check they dont require different settings from each other, if all of them say that you can use W/E settings for your WD (or a specific ON/OFF for all of them) then swap them to be the same as each other, or if all the toggles are just made by you alone then you can choose to do whichever you'd need/like

[grizzled crow]

that collision radius results in this size on the tail

[somber sequoia]

Oh then what's not working? This looks fine

(I'd add some angle limiting though, so it moves more naturally - I do about 45°)

[grizzled crow]

when I upload the avatar, the ears dont work, but the tail does

[somber sequoia]

show the ears then?

[grizzled crow]

in vrchat or in unity?

[somber sequoia]

unity, seeing it in vrchat isn't useful at all

[somber sequoia]

ah I see no gizmos there. Try to increase the Y endpoint position, perhaps 0.1

[kind wave]

can someone please help me fix this. Her toes and fingers are messed up.

[somber sequoia]

rough guess - bad weight painting

[kind wave]

it was fine a second ago then i put her in blender added some hairs and then put her back in unity and then this happened

[grizzled crow]

this is what I have for a different avatar..

[somber sequoia]

I can see the gizmos there, yep

[feral isle]

I just added the avatar and shaders

[grizzled crow]

ah it was the enpoint position

[feral isle]

any ideas what could fix it?

if anyone got any ideas of course haha

[green geyser]

why is adding clothes so hard someone please help me on this

i’ve been stuck trying to add these clothes for like 4 hours i just want it to work 😭😭 i’m literally getting to point where if i can’t install it im fr boutta pay someone to

[left gull]

either you're missing/have a broken NSFW material or script maybe?

the 2nd error gives a possible solution to it

[feral isle]

I fixed the shaders, but it still said it cannot find the shader

[left gull]

does that models description/upload guide list a specific version of the shader that you're not using?

[feral isle]

It came with shaders in the avatar, but i have just tried removing poi and putting newer ones in

hoping it might help

[left gull]

you should try finding the offical version of the one that came with the package and see if that fixes your errors, sometimes newer versions of shaders can break that "stuff"

[feral isle]

forgot to put these in as well

but it looks like something is happening now, ill tell if it works or not

[static cipher]

bump 2

[devout hound]

Hello gamers, I've got this BFX file I wanted to import to Unity but I don't know how

[somber sequoia]

FBX probably? Just drop it into your project

[devout hound]

Aye

It's my first time sorry if I get the terms wrong

[somber sequoia]

no worries!

[devout hound]

I can't srop it anywhere

[somber sequoia]

drop it somewhere in the Project window, where it's your project's files and folders

[green geyser]

^^

[somber sequoia]

what's the problem?

[green geyser]

video explains it

[devout hound]

here?

[somber sequoia]

sure, somewhere under Assets.

[devout hound]

It doesn't seem to work

[somber sequoia]

explain what you mean?

[somber sequoia]

that's all you do to import the file

[devout hound]

I'm trying to drop this file right under XR but the program just won't allow me to do so

[feral isle]

Worked

[devout hound]

Is the file not valid?

[somber sequoia]

don't put it under XR, just put it in Assets. But you'll need to explain " the program won't allow me"

[devout hound]

So when I drag the file there a red denial symbol over my cursor

[somber sequoia]

is the nail a separate object? I'd join them, personally

[devout hound]

And it just won't let me

[somber sequoia]

doesn't look like it from that image, weird.

[somber sequoia]

ah ok I don't know what that means other than perhaps that's not a FBX file that unity can read, I'd try to import it into Blender

[devout hound]

okay

[somber sequoia]

Check weight paint? Pose that hand/thumb in blender, see how it moves around

[green geyser]

^^

[glass condor]

Uhh, I'm in blender. When I merge all meshes together with ctrl-J, my textures turn into the second pic.

what am I doing wrong?

[somber sequoia]

probably UV maps - make sure the first (top) UV Map for each object you're joining has exactly the same name

[glass condor]

how do I check that?

[somber sequoia]

you didn't need to show a video, just saying it's fine would have worked 🙂

[somber sequoia]

it's in the properties area for the mesh objects, below shape keys and such.

[glass condor]

ah these?

[somber sequoia]

those

[glass condor]

I should change the name for all of them to a generic one? I'll go for it

[devout hound]

@somber sequoia It won't let me open it on Blender

[somber sequoia]

maybe it's not a valid file then, no idea what it is

[devout hound]

hell

[somber sequoia]

Yeah - joining objects will join the UV maps if they have the same name, otherwise they just all get added to the list and then you have to deal with different ones for different materials.

[glass condor]

alright, thanks!

[devout hound]

Any1 know where can I find cs2's 3d models compatible with blender?

[sturdy grotto]

what could be my problem here? only bug appear when upload try. TaskCanceledException: A task was canceled. VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.BuildAndUpload (UnityEngine.GameObject target, VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar avatar, System.String thumbnailPath, System.Threading.CancellationToken cancellationToken) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2490) VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder+<>c__DisplayClass104_0.<CreateBuildGUI>b__4 () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2015) System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncMethodBuilderCore+<>c.<ThrowAsync>b__7_0 (System.Object state) (at <27124aa0e30a41659b903b822b959bc7>:0) UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext+WorkRequest.Invoke () (at <cb81df0c49c643b1a04d9fc6ccca2433>:0) UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext.Exec () (at <cb81df0c49c643b1a04d9fc6ccca2433>:0) UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext.ExecuteTasks () (at <cb81df0c49c643b1a04d9fc6ccca2433>:0)

[glass condor]

Ok this is weird...I "fixed" my model with CATS in blender, and it put my model like this...(The circled in red is the armature and mesh, the green is the transform cursor, and you can see the Central cursor in its usual spot...) What the hell happened...?

[somber sequoia]

just a guess: apply all transforms first

[glass condor]

how do I do that 😭 sorry that I'm such a noob

[somber sequoia]

select object, ctrl+a, all transforms

[balmy barn]

old cats? some models do not behave , theres 4.2.1.4

[balmy barn]

sketchfab cs2 ,multiple there, glb can be imported to blender

[feral isle]

Nothing in the avatar called (Clone)

[glass condor]

ok I did and ...uhh...

[devout hound]

I tried that

did not work

[feral isle]

Any ideas to this? 🙂

[green geyser]

^^

[glad terrace]

could someone help me with the blush on my avi, i added a face tatoo and its all messed up now

[loud geode]

Thank you for earlier. I seperated their scenes, but changes made to one are still reflected in the other. I believe becuase they are prefabs..What im looking to do is have a single prefab, with two instaces of the prefab with different overrides such as shader albedo texture used, the shader itself switching from Standard -> VRCMobild/diffuse and all those little changes.

But even if I speperate their scenes, they still seem to keep changes across prefab insances

[somber sequoia]

unless you save the prefab change to the prefab, those overrides should just be in the scene

[loud geode]

Is it because they are blue? I notice when I "upack" the prefab it changes color and sounds liek what I want.

[somber sequoia]

blue is a prefab. Unpacked means not a prefab, is just stuff in the scene and will never get updates from the prefab.

you really don't want to unpack an avatar in most cases.

[loud geode]

Is this about the material instead? Im modifying the albedo texture of the material, and that, even when scene seperated and fully unpacked, is still crossing my scenes.

[somber sequoia]

oh - materials are not per-scene, they're files on disk. You'd need two different materials for this.

[loud geode]

OMG Thank you!

[somber sequoia]

Basically anything that's an actual file in the Project window won't have scene overrides, such as menus, parameter list, animations, materials, etc.

[loud geode]

Thank you I understand!

[loud geode]

Seriously, this is what I get for not leaning unity first I guess. FOr along time i've been using only one material for each and every one of my avitar ploads and trying to make fallbacks and etc, its added alot to constantly change the same things again and again. working on a new one messes up the older ones. just thankyou

[somber sequoia]

glad I helped!

[sick star]

how hard is it to copy somethings puppet control onto something else as in another place? i have a prefab that ive basically scrapped apart toa djust it and now im trying to use its puppet control for another toggle elsewhere but i dont know how to 1 move it over and 2 make it control the new fin (same fin but as a base fbx)

[west kestrel]

trying to finda avatar i made a while back in the sdk in unity and it doesnt list them, it only lists a few recent ones, how do i see the rest?

[wooden cairn]

Can anyone tell me why this chest physbone isn't doing anything?

No colliders appear unless I change Multi Child Type

Or ignore one of the two endpoints

[somber sequoia]

don't put a physbone on a humanoid bone without ignoring that bone, or you'll be a floppy noodle

[wooden cairn]

Sorry, it's not on chest

It's on Boob_Root

[somber sequoia]

Otherwise, increase the Y endpoint - your boob bones seem to just have a single bone and physbones need 2+ to work

0.01 ought to be noticable

[wooden cairn]

I see, I'll give it a shot

That helps but it's kind of pivoting in the wrong spot

Is there no way to make it pivot from the root?

[somber sequoia]

show?

this just adds physics to existing bones, you may need to edit the bones if they aren't where you want

[wooden cairn]

Is there no way to make it pivot up at the root?

[somber sequoia]

is that not where the bone is?

[tender ingot]

does anybody know what this means ?? i have the file it clearly exists im just not to syure what to do

[wooden cairn]

the red arrow is where the end transforms are

the unity transform tool is on the root

I want to make it bend up here

Otherwise it looks really strange

[green geyser]

it’s been 5 hours please someone help

[somber sequoia]

Can you show this in Blender?

sorry I meant to reply to @wooden cairn there

[green geyser]

dangit

ur good

[wooden cairn]

Like show the bones? Sure

[somber sequoia]

Yeah I'm trying to understand where the bone actually is, it's hard to see it in Unity

[wooden cairn]

Strange set up

[somber sequoia]

no that looks reasonable

[wooden cairn]

One bone in the center, then the ends coming off it

I don't get why it isn't drawing the bone chains from the root

[somber sequoia]

usually you'd want these to not use the root bone though, boobs ought to move independently

[wooden cairn]

Right, I had them set up before with two separate physbone components

And that worked, but for some reason they moved very differently despite having the same variables

Let me see if I can demonstrate

[left gull]

using a root bone for the chest is something people use pretty often, im unsure if its just to make the armature easier to navigate through or if theres another reason though

[winter edge]

Is it possible in blender/unity to rerig an avatar's limbs to fit you properly if the proportions are not 1:1 with your IRL body?

In VRC some avatars my foot tracker green orbs line up with their shins

[wooden cairn]

This is what happens if I set up two physbone controllers on the Boob_Root object, each ignoring one of the two sides

I don't understand why her left side moves more extremely

It's like they're stuck together

[arctic ginkgo]

reduces physbone component count

which is really important on quest since you only get 8 max

there's a hard limit

[wooden cairn]

I can confirm that they are in fact stuck together

Or rather, the right one is stuck to the left one

the left side can move on its own

[arctic ginkgo]

if something has the same parent and can get away reasonably with having the same physbone settings there really isn't any reason to use multiple physbone components

the only downsides are that it uses a singular extra physbone transform and that you can't grab multiple children of the root at once

[somber sequoia]

that sounds like a weight painting problem

[left gull]

ah i didnt even think of that, i rarely see it on quest models though more so PC only models

[arctic ginkgo]

is it? if the left can move on it's own but not the right? it could be a parenting issue?

[wooden cairn]

One sec

[arctic ginkgo]

are there two physbone components?

[wooden cairn]

Yes

[arctic ginkgo]

i mean like

on accident

more physbone components than needed

[wooden cairn]

Oh, no

Two components

[arctic ginkgo]

say 2 on the left boob or one on the root and one on the left boob

[arctic ginkgo]

that can cause extra movement since it's calculated twice

[wooden cairn]

They're both on the root

[arctic ginkgo]

what are the root transforms set to?

[wooden cairn]

Boob_Root

Tysm for helping me troubleshoot btw

[arctic ginkgo]

both are set to that?

[somber sequoia]

oh - if you're going to put both on the same object, put them on an empty outside the armature.

[arctic ginkgo]

there's no need for both if they both target the root bone

[somber sequoia]

but yeah, that.

[arctic ginkgo]

make sure they aren't targeting the same bone nor a child of the other's root transform

i'm guessing one is targeting the root bone (causing right and left to move) while the other is targeting left boob (causing just left to move extra)

[arctic ginkgo]

@wooden cairn can you send a screenshot of the settings on both physbone components?

[wooden cairn]

They should be identical except for the ignored transform

[arctic ginkgo]

oh i'm not sure why it's set up that way

[wooden cairn]

I mean, I'm adding these.

I might be doing something wrong

[arctic ginkgo]

set ignored transform to 0 and then set each root transform to either boob_L and boob_R

you're putting physbones on the same bone (boob root) twice, it's going to have weird behavior

[wooden cairn]

Problem is then, it doesn't move right because it pivots from the center of each breast

rather than the root

[somber sequoia]

Right - if you're going to use that root transform box, put this component not on the armature

[wooden cairn]

I can try that

And target Boob_Root with the root bone?

[arctic ginkgo]

then remove one of the physbone components, clear the root transform box, and then set multi child type to first

most of the time people don't want the root bone to move, but it seems like that's what you're asking for

[somber sequoia]

no, if you're going to target each breast bone with a physbone component, either put the components on the actual bone, or on an empty somewhere else and use the target box.

[wooden cairn]

I think I need to illustrate the behavior I'm hoping for

[arctic ginkgo]

kazin i think they want the root bone to move ^

[somber sequoia]

yeah then use one component either on the actual bone, or use the target box with the root bone in it.

(not both)

[wooden cairn]

So, currently the behavior is

What I'd like is

[somber sequoia]

yeah that's probably how I'd want to do this

ahh, then you don't use ignore at all

and they'll move somewhat together

[arctic ginkgo]

yeah you just need one physbone component, no ignore transforms, and multi child type set to "first"

[somber sequoia]

you can dampen the movement of the root though

[wooden cairn]

Wait, what does first do?

[arctic ginkgo]

makes it so if a physbone effected transform has multiple physbone affected children, it will still move in the same manner as the rest

[wooden cairn]

I see, I thought it only applied a chain to the first child and ignored the rest

Okay, so that still leaves them kinda stuck together

[somber sequoia]

they have a common root, you aren't going to avoid that

[arctic ginkgo]

oh actually that might be the case

[arctic ginkgo]

i swear i've used them for hair this way though

[wooden cairn]

Why is it only drawing to one and not both?

[arctic ginkgo]

you can try average instead

[somber sequoia]

yeah I don't think that "First" thing is the right answer here

[wooden cairn]

Ah

[somber sequoia]

right - Average seems right

[wooden cairn]

Woah okay, that looks much better

[arctic ginkgo]

yeah i've never used average before tbh, first has always worked for multiple children for me, but i usually had a center bone and two left/right bones

[somber sequoia]

me either, I'm glad we're going through this, now I know what it's for

[tender ingot]

i jsut tried to upload my guy and everytthingg just vanished and i cant bring it back does any1 know how to fix?

[wooden cairn]

Yeah, average seems to be working fine

Thanks yall!

[somber sequoia]

explain, show, etc. This isn't much to go on, unfortunately

[tender ingot]

i fixed it nvm nvm !!

😔 save me from content creatoe..

if any of yall could give me help on some solutions to this id appriciate !! whenever i watch yt vids theyskip over it with no issues but if i do i cant use the avatar, favorite itr and other ppl cant see it

[upper sonnet]

Hey I have an question, does anyone know why it keeps showing me the instance I was just in instead of the instance that I clicked on?

[somber sequoia]

Decrease the amount of assets, or split this up, possibly multiple outfits? 250k is a lot.

[arctic ginkgo]

do they see you as a robot? your avatar might have failed security checks

[tender ingot]

ive deleted ATON of clothes n whatnot so im fonna try fixing it in blender

[tender ingot]

im not sure!! do yk how to tell?

[arctic ginkgo]

being poor or very poor isn't always a problem, it's just that the limits of "very poor" are virtually unbounded, meaning it can range from "barely deserving of the rank" to "crash your whole game"

[arctic ginkgo]

it shouldn't let you change into it, at least on quest, it'll be grayed out and have an X on it

when you select it it'll say "security checks failed" instead of "change into avatar"

although i've only seen this on quest, so if you're on PC i don't know if it works the same

[tender ingot]

nod nod

[somber sequoia]

it does, yep

[arctic ginkgo]

it could also just be an issue in the immediate moment, sometimes avatars appear as error bots for a small amount of time before going back to normal

if you can change into it then it might not be security checks

[tender ingot]

ive been tryin to fix this for about three days so its prob something on my end

[arctic ginkgo]

in any case you should optimize your avatar, this will likely fix the issue

[somber sequoia]

don't forget about particle systems set to destroy on stop

[tender ingot]

ive tried to merge materials n whatnot but im not exactly how im super new to this so im slow bleh

[tender ingot]

okok!!

[arctic ginkgo]

i think you can't upload those anymore, i know they updated the sdk to check for it, but ofc you'd have to be on that version or later

[somber sequoia]

yeah they ought to be caught now

if you're on a recent SDK

[arctic ginkgo]

@tender ingot also check for broken scripts in your project

that can cause issues even if they aren't doing anything to your avatar

[tender ingot]

alright!! so sorry to ask but do yk how to ??

[arctic ginkgo]

every time i try to import build size veiwer on mac it breaks and then my avatars all fail security checks until i get rid of it 😔

[spark walrus]

could anyone help me fix this? idk what to do and am not sure how to fix this ><

[arctic ginkgo]

if you close and open your project and it's severe enough it may cause you to open the project in safe mode, either way it should give you errors regarding the broken scripts in the console

[tender ingot]

alright!!

[arctic ginkgo]

then you can figure out if there are any and what they are in order to remove them

[tender ingot]

it doesnt say anything about broken scripts.. i think the main problem is how many triangles n whatnot there is

[frank spruce]

Anyone know why my descriptor is just kinda frozen like this? I've tried closing the project and opening it again and its still like this

[tender ingot]

how could i lower my material slots ?

[meager estuary]

how do i fixed "security checks failed"?

[somber sequoia]

merge mesh objects and/or combine materials. There are a bunch of ways

[tiny dock]

still struggling w/ this

[somber sequoia]

depends on the reason why, which is hard to see. but look at the discussion we just had

[somber sequoia]

check the "loop" box on the animation file

[tiny dock]

use an atlas

[meager estuary]

discussion?

[tiny dock]

how do i get it to play though

i want it to play by default on the avatar while the head/the rest of the body can move seperately

[somber sequoia]

scroll up in here

[somber sequoia]

not knowing anything about what it does, put it in a layer in your animator, it'll be automatically on.

[frank spruce]

Anyone?

[tiny dock]

can you send screenshots

[somber sequoia]

no, there are lots of tutorials on doing animations, and I don't have Unity open at th emoment

[tiny dock]

it's showing my animator is empty and i can't add a layer

[meager estuary]

im seeing to optimize it more? this particular avatar is already really optimized. plus it worked a few days ago. is optimizing the only solution?

[somber sequoia]

it's usually the solution if that's the cause of the security check fail.

[meager estuary]

it doesn't say the cause, thats why im confused

[somber sequoia]

yeah it's annoying like that 😦

[meager estuary]

vrchat moment :c

[somber sequoia]

usually it's because you're very very very poor, or something is not allowed - do you have the latest SDK? It should catch a lot of the "not allowed" issues

[meager estuary]

yeah its all updated n stuff
and its Medium too so idk why it would think its unoptimized

[somber sequoia]

oh so that's probably not the problem

[meager estuary]

yeah

[spark walrus]

i get this message whenever i open unity, how can i fix this?

[prisma sedge]

Reinstall unity/unity hub

[glass condor]

How do I make a pose stay outside of pose mode in Blender?

[somber sequoia]

like, save it as the new rest pose?

[glass condor]

never mind, I figured it out I think. I saved it as a rest pose in cats.

[somber sequoia]

that'll work

[spark walrus]

i still get the same response ><

[prisma sedge]

Do you have any 3rd party antivirus?

[spark walrus]

uhm not that im too aware of

actually thats weird, it only does that when i DONT run as admin xddd

[hazy pendant]

i changed my avatars skin in unity but it doesn't show in game any one know how to fix that?

[prisma sedge]

Why were you running it as admin to begin with?

[spark walrus]

i didnt know it was, i just gave it a test to see maybe that would be the case

its a similar thing with vcc. it doesnt open unless i run as admin so ig thats the issue. rn am trying to change that tho

turning that off doesnt seem to fix it still

[full rover]

I keep getting an application error when I try to upload my premade model, can anyone help? :'>

[somber meadow]

What Unity and SDK verison are you using?

[full rover]

Unity 2019, and I'm using the latest ver of sdk

I was told to use the 2019 ver for this specific model

:/

[reef cove]

Modular avatars "Setup outfit" is not making the outfit follow the bones anymore. There is no errors, and the Modular Avatar component is created like before. It just doesn't make the clothing follow the bones like it should.
I've checked the bone names and I think they're correct

[proven dome]

im having an issue were the armor piece here is colliding with the chest how how do i fix it to were thearmor just moves with it?

[raven orbit]

it has to be weight painted to the same bones as the chest or it wont move with it

[frank spruce]

If I do this does it delete any of the avatars on the left side?

[proven dome]

weight painted?

[raven orbit]

something you'd probably have to do in blender

[proven dome]

damn it 😭 do you know how to do it-? im like fairly new to blender

i js started using it today lol

[raven orbit]

you'd have to import the fbx into blender and work with it from there. there's lots of rigging tutorials on youtube. i dont really have the time to give a step by step tutorial for this right now. maybe there something else you can do to fix it in unity and someone else can help with that

[proven dome]

okay thank you!

[hollow stirrup]

currently attempting to upload a premade package, but it wants me to preview through Gesture Manager
I have that installed but can't find how to do that

If anyone would happen to know where that's located it would be greatly appreciated

Ik I have to put the thingy for it in the hierarchy iirc

but I can't locate it

[hollow stirrup]

nvm i found it lmao ;w;

[hollow stirrup]

ok sooo
since then now we gotta new issue
tested in gesture manager, seemed to work fine
then i decided to hit 'Build and Run' to actually test it better
and i get this

any idea what it might be?

It keeps mentioning a "4096 limit' but idrk what that means, i don't really use this stuff much anymore

ok so uhm

looking into it..

apparently whatever this thing is is

quite bad ;w;

and i didnt know until now lol 😭