avatar-help

[vagrant parcel]

alright so i did it, but it left a hole in the mesh, how do i fix that?

[honest dune]

Press 2 for edge select, Select the outermost edge and try spamming F and see what it does

[flint rose]

that is quite a strange pose to have the model in by default. would definitely recommend using Pose mode to straighten the legs and rotate the palms/arms (and using CATS to apply the pose as the rest pose), and using edit mode to straighten out the spine a bit, as well as tweak the shoulders so the bones aren't popping out of the mesh

[honest dune]

issue is. its a actually a low Poly mesh and i need those for rotation

[flint rose]

I wouldn't really consider that "low poly", I would consider that "perfectly reasonable" poly

[honest dune]

this is the mesh

[flint rose]

ah now that is low poly

[honest dune]

what you saw was Subd

XD

and withou the "strange" rotation points the hole rig is really hard to move bc of the limited verts

but i can try to straigten the bones just to see if that fixes the axis issue

gimme a bit

[flint rose]

I'd also try resetting the bone rolls (select in edit mode and do alt + R), and maybe manually tweaking them afterwards if needed

[honest dune]

(did that already)

[flint rose]

it looks like the knees are bent in a kinda strange way, you may want to move the joint forward or bend the lower leg more

otherwise it might try to bend the wrong way

[honest dune]

Same issue

[flint rose]

try pushing the thighs and base of the hips forward a bit?

also, once re-imported, make sure to do Pose > Reset Pose in the rig config

[honest dune]

same issue

[timber delta]

fixed my rig issue but now physbones refuse to preview and work in the player

so im confused

[honest dune]

HOW

[timber delta]

what i did was switch the L and R bones to what the left and right would be from the avatars POV
basically your left your right

weird, but worked

but

[honest dune]

OH

[flint rose]

oh, yea, left/right is always from the avatar POV

[timber delta]

didnt know that yet

[flint rose]

not from your pov when looking at it

[honest dune]

that might bei t!

[timber delta]

i am just a newb LOLLL

[honest dune]

i nemd the the way i saw them

cuz its easier for me ;-;

RIP

XD

wait

[flint rose]

I still insist that you should keep those rig changes I proposed, but also fix the naming

getting closer to the "ideal" rig VRChat expects will improve how it behaves in game

[honest dune]

true buts its an animation rig first, the VR chat stuff is a bonus, i dont mind much if its a little broken

if i do end up spending more time in vrc i might make a seperate VRchat Version for it

[timber delta]

im trying to figure out currently why these arent working but i cant find anything online its so weird 😵
idk if i like. set up the bones wrong?? im confused

[flint rose]

your editor is paused, nothing will work

unpause it

[timber delta]

i cant do anything if i unpause it

im in 2022

[flint rose]

what do you mean you can't do anything?

[honest dune]

that was the fix! :O

[timber delta]

i dont have the ability to move anything?

[honest dune]

tyy!

[flint rose]

you're in the game view, not the scene view.

• leave play mode
• in the game view, change Play Focused to Play Unfocused at the top
• enter play mode

[cunning wagon]

does anyone happen to know the new avatar limits or where i could see that? i noticed a few models i had werent usable anymore

[flint rose]

https://ask.vrchat.com/t/developer-update-31-october-2024/27596

these limits are absurdly high still

if your download size is anywhere close to even 100mb, you have wayy too much stuff on one avatar, or no effort whatsoever was put into basic optimizations like reducing texture sizes and reducing audio clip quality.

[timber wharf]

theres no clear limits, except 200mb download/500mb unpacked size, and those shouldnt affect old downloads/be impossible to upload. they spin up avatars on some vm or test in client or who knows what to measure their actual performance but we have no clear metrics

[flint rose]

the new limits are retroactives afaik

older avatars that exceed them cannot be used anymore

[cunning wagon]

thank you

[half stirrup]

does anyone know how to get this for retexturing models ??? i assume its a unity thing, i feel like i've seen/done it before but nothing im doing is working (i also have no idea what its even called at this point)

[cunning wagon]

i noticed a few under 100 got knocked but honestly could be texture memory and audio like yall said

[ashen jetty]

Can someone help me?
I put oufit in my avatar and i want to make toggle for jacket. But when i click record animation and click the outfit, it's auto stop the record and avatar back to t-pose again. Why?

[timber delta]

testing model now... any clue why hes bigger then the map? LOLLL

[sick snow]

Please @ me if you know of a solution.
I have some seats on my avatar set to a toggle, and also toggle an object in tow as well. But sometimes, the seats are on despite being off in my menus and the object tied to the seats not being on. Does anyone know of a fix to this? I don't want strangers tethered to me.

[timber delta]

he shouldnt be and now im confused

[honest dune]

(lil celebration, ill get to fxing evrth else now X3)

[flint rose]

this is an overlay of the UV map, you can create one in blender by going to the UV Editing tab, going into edit mode, selecting everything in the viewport using A, selecting all of the UVs using A, and going to UV > Export UV Layout

[honest dune]

ty for your help :3

[flint rose]

in the window that pops up, you can change the resolution and opacity

[half stirrup]

the model i have imported into blender is just grey, i have the textures downloaded and i was just putting them into the uv editor hoping that'd work

[timber delta]

i dont know how to fix this but its so funny to me rn HDHFBD

[half stirrup]

all i got 😭

[flint rose]

this is fine

all you really care about is exporting the UV layout, which textures are not needed for.

you don't really need to have textures/materials set up in blender, unless you are doing your painting in blender or are using it for renders

[half stirrup]

im stuck on the last part of it ngl 😭 im blind (and also very new to blender/unity) so i have no clue where anything is LOOL

[flint rose]

and the only reason you'd really need the UV layout anyways is if you're texturing in a 2D program like Photoshop

if you need to increase resolution or change opacity

@half stirrup

[half stirrup]

i in fact do not have a UV button here

[flint rose]

make sure you're in edit mode in the viewport

I specified it earlier but not in the last picture.

[half stirrup]

yeh it says i am

[junior void]

the armature is highlighted

you want to be in edit mode on the body mesh

[flint rose]

^

there is a difference between edit mode for the armature and edit mode for the mesh. whichever object is highlighted yellow is the "active" object

so make sure the mesh is the active object, and then go to edit mode

[half stirrup]

like thiiisss ?

so sorry for being big dumb rn 😭

[junior void]

'yellow'

[flint rose]

you have to leave edit mode for the armature first

[half stirrup]

oh LOL

[flint rose]

go back to Object mode, then click on the mesh

[half stirrup]

oh shit

[flint rose]

ok, so another thing is that if the model has multiple materials, the UVs for each one will all be overlaid on top of one another

[half stirrup]

yeah the uv thats showing in that pic is the head, i already have the new texture for it so i just need body

[flint rose]

to only select the UVs for one material, deselect everything in the viewport (click somewhere), go to the materials tab, select the material you want, and click Select below it

[half stirrup]

wait no thats multiple uvs nvm

[junior void]

Also to note, if you want to export the layout as png, the islands must be selected when exporting the image, otherwise it will be blank. I learned that the other day lol

[half stirrup]

like so?

[flint rose]

yes

[half stirrup]

ayyyeeeeee

[flint rose]

either that, or enable the option in the export window called "All UVs"

[half stirrup]

i have learned something new today

[flint rose]

.

[half stirrup]

i can just drop the png i have of the body texture in the uv port now right

[flint rose]

what are you actually trying to do

are you trying to edit textures of the model?

[half stirrup]

yeaa, but since im doing it in procreate i just needed the UV so i know where things go

[junior void]

i was under the expression you want to export the grid for the uvs to texture in another program

so then why would you drop a png onto the model now

[flint rose]

no, just export the pure UV layout, and put that as a new layer inside Procreate

on top of all of the other layers

[half stirrup]

oohhh

[flint rose]

you do not want it baked in with the main texture

you want it as a transparent overlay

I thought Procreate could do 3D texturing, no?

yea it can https://help.procreate.com/procreate/handbook/3d-painting

[half stirrup]

interesting, i've actually never used the modeling feature on it before

[junior void]

if you can paint on it in a 3d view, you wont need the uv layout

[timber delta]

crawls back in here
sigh
i live here now

1. face is a 2d plane (seen below), face in vrchat keeps getting set to the bottom and behind the avatar?
2. the feet and legs are purposely below the map since i didnt want this avatar to HAVE legs, but vrchat decides to make him float instead and i have no clue how to fix it
3. camera is wonky, and moves weirdly because of 2 im pretty sure? idk if its a seperate fix or would fix if i fix 2

[flint rose]

don't put the feet and legs under the floor, put them where they would normally go but don't weigh any part of the mesh to them

make sure the face is weighed to the head bone

[half stirrup]

tbh its my first time doing proper retexturing on a simple model, so i was importing the image i saved of the body texture and thought putting the uv over it would be fine enough for me

[timber delta]

how should i do that?

[flint rose]

are you familiar with weight painting?

and is the model rigged in any way already?

[timber delta]

vaguely, and yes

i do have a unrigged variant of the model if needed

[flint rose]

to get something to move 100% with one bone, you can do it in Edit mode by selecting the parts of the mesh you want weighed, selecting the Vertex Group for the bone you want, and clicking Assign

[junior void]

itd be fine if you have layers where you can later turn the grid off as i doubt you dont want the grid on your model later when youre done with the textures. But you should definitely prefer painting on the model in 3d as sometime,s the grid is a little stretched here and there to make it flat where really theres a curve on the model, so what you see on the flat texture may look ok and then on the model its weirdly deformed. you can be more detailed and on point with positions of strokes and marks etc in a 3d view

[half stirrup]

i'll try looking into doing actual 3d texturing with procreate soon tbh, it does seem a LOT easier to do but for now im just testing things honestly 😭

[violet torrent]

How do I make toggles save their state between world switches?

Anytime I switch worlds my custom ones get reset

[junior void]

Check the "saved" box in the parameters

[violet torrent]

Where would I find parameters? I'm very unfamiliar with unity, sorry

[junior void]

on your avatars root theres an avatar descriptor

inside that youll find a parameters file that you can double click to open it

[violet torrent]

Thank you

[timber delta]

ill tweak it a little since im floating a little bit still but my camera is still.. weird? its doing this

dunno if its the view position, since its set correctly

[half swift]

I haven't seen or had this happen to me before, the body deforms like the weight paint is broken, but it's only in this pose in unity and in vrc, but everything is fine in blender, it just suddenly did this, when I was doing another normal update?

[half swift]

Here is a better comparison, I should've just showed it like this to make it easier.
Both models are the exact same in Unity an Blender.

[junior void]

This could be caused by bone stripping

in blender, go into weight paint mode, select weights -> limit total and set it to 4 if it isnt already. Each vertex can only be affected by maximum 4 bones. Any excess are going to get "stripped" in unity

[broken glade]

Does anyone know how to properly put clothes on avis ( the armature part ) of this process? I can drag the armature (from newly made clothing) into the corresponding places of the main armature, and although the armature does work as intended with it moving with the limbs etc, it doens't have the same physbone properties as the main?

I.e the boobs will function under the clothing and the clothing stays stuck

[junior void]

You should use something like vrcfury armature link

for exactly the issue (reason) youre having

[half swift]

Much apricated my man, that did it, I will remember this.

[sweet acorn]

What am I messing up?

[pearl furnace]

Too much parameters.

[sweet acorn]

Okay but I was trying to upload a quest version to the pc version by creating a. Duplicate unity project by exporting from the assets tab. The seller thinks it should work i assume. So it probably isn't the inbuilt parameters

[pearl furnace]

Quest have different set of required/maximum parameters and such stuff. for you to be able to upload it on quest version

[sweet acorn]

I'm wondering if it's including parameters from the prior file

[violet torrent]

What if my custom ones arent in the list?

[pearl furnace]

I can't seem to have the int toggle with different clothes, Did they do something or I did something wrong? Cause I did the same thing with older sdk version, and it just work perfectly fine.

[pearl furnace]

You can just remove unnecessary parameters in your quest version. since most of it are not compatible in it

[sweet acorn]

any tips for which are likely? and do i need to get an id from the pc version and paste under pipeline?

[pearl furnace]

You have to manually find it yourself or talk to the seller, Cause even I haven't touch Unity in a long time, so really can't help you at all

[fallow gulch]

Actually don't do that
That's not a good idea

[sweet acorn]

right, seems like im messing something up

[pearl furnace]

I mean, he/she uploading it on a quest version

[fallow gulch]

Use the PC's parameter list on the Quest version as well.
Otherwise the toggles will desync between PC and Quest

[sweet acorn]

okay

[pearl furnace]

Anyone got any idea on how to deal with this?

[sweet acorn]

and how do i get the id to paste on quest version, the vids i found dont say

[fallow gulch]

At first I thought this would be a nice optimization as well, but it causes issues, if you remove params from the param list

[fallow gulch]

Are you trying to make an exclusive toggle between multiple clothes or..?

[pearl furnace]

Yes

I just did the same thing as I always do with the Int toggle

But on this newer sdk, it doesn't work

and both dress are ON, but there's only 1 dress showing

[fallow gulch]

Well if you make an exclusive toggle, that makes sense
Exclusive suggests, that the 2 can't be on at the same time

[pearl furnace]

I mean, I'm using an int parameter

not bool parameter

[fallow gulch]

Well say.. you have an int for Tops, and you also want a coat or a hat or something
You'd toggle those with separate bools probably

[pearl furnace]

Ah that one I know

[fallow gulch]

Since you want the int to control the tops, and 2 different values to control the 2 different accessories

[pearl furnace]

It's not the accessories I'm fixing, since I know you need boolean paramater on that

It's the multiple dress on an int parameter that are both turned on, but only 1 showing

You can't even click on any dress, since it's unclickable cause they are turned on

[fallow gulch]

Can you show your layer that controls this?

[pearl furnace]

Gimme a sec

I have been doing it like this ever since, and on the older sdk it works perfectly fine

Equals to Shift = 0
Equals to Flip Flops = 1

[fallow gulch]

Is this Write Defaults on?

[pearl furnace]

This is what's happening

Hmm, lemme try turning off write default on both animations

Cause, on my older sdk version, they're both wd on, but works fine

Nothing happened, still the same

[fallow gulch]

So.. you can't mix write defaults. That's important

All states in all layers have to follow the same write defaults state

Do you know what write defaults on and off does?

[pearl furnace]

It overrides it

I don't know, if it's with vrcfury/modular avatar that's messing up with my avatar write default.

[fallow gulch]

That could very well be the case

[pearl furnace]

Hmm, It's probably vrcfury

because, I did put up modular avatar on my older avi, but it never happened like this

[fallow gulch]

But.. the difference is:
Let's say you have a layer with 2 states. The first toggles a coat on, the second turns a hat on.
With WD on, when you go to the first state, you get the coat. But when you go to the second one, you get the hat and the coat disappears
That is because the coat's default state was off. You'd have to animate both the coat and hat on both states here
With WD off, these default values don't get restored, and you can toggle things on and off as you please

[pearl furnace]

Yea, I know that. with multiple animation on a certain part of a dress using boolean

You need 2 animations ON and OFF

[icy iron]

I'm not sure what's happening here... My model was working completely as expected before, but I realized that I forgot to weightpaint the shirt, so I went back to blender and weightpainted the shirt and reimported, but now my blendshapes appear all mixed up in unity. In blender, everything appears normal, and I've re-exported the FBX several times, so I don't understand what's happening... does anyone have any insight? Pictures of the expected blendshape behavior in blender and what happens when the sliders in the skinned mesh are used in unity to compare. The shirt blendshape appears to do nothing, and the shirt instead appears mixed in with all the other blendshapes, but is rendered upside down with flipped uvs or something...? Its even affecting visemes and expression blendshapes...

[junior void]

Then you are using some auto installer such as vrcfury or modular avatar, which you should always mention up front because it causes this exact confusion. if your toggles are added via vrcfury, you will find an "option" button on the toggle, under which you can select "saved between worlds"

[violet torrent]

Yes, I did find the option. Thanks anyway I appreciate it a lot ^^

[fierce spear]

Hey, does quest support the unity standard shaders?

[sly lodge]

You can only use Quest shaders that are listed below the VRChat/Mobile, but only the Standard Lite comes close to the standard one

[fierce spear]

Yup. Thanks. Standardlite is perfect. The thingy i had didnt pack its textures.

[raven ridge]

Trying to make a prop animate with prebuilt animations but I'm failing to make them animated. It suggest doing a Path Rewrite Rules but I'm not sure what to do

[timber delta]

weird bug with my textures where i can see parts of the texture where i shouldnt, i was able to fix this on poiyomi but im using toon lit rn so i can make it quest compaitable, textures look and work fine in blender, any clue how to fix?

[junior void]

I dont know what im looking at

Nor what its supposed to be

[timber delta]

Arm texture

The paws for the arm is visible from the top, almost like it's weirdly transparent?? But the texture is still there

[junior void]

All i see is a gray blob with 2 dots

[timber delta]

Its the angle I took the photo at sorry

In just trying to figure out how to fix this 😭

The pawbeans are visible from the top when they shouldn't be, the paw lines are visible from the bottom when they shouldnt, and I can see them when I look at the arm from the side, it's really weird

[junior void]

Did you by chance set backface culling to none as "fix in poi"

[timber delta]

Where should I check?

[somber sequoia]

shader settings, under Rendering at the bottom

[junior void]

You said you fixed it with poi and you dont know what you did to do so?

[timber delta]

I'm doing this on toon lit rn so im confused since there wasn't alot of stuff on the side

I found how to fix it on poiyomi by complete accident so I forgot what I even toggled
Or if a similar toggle was on toonlit or something

im not seeing rendering

[somber sequoia]

you can't do that with this shader

[junior void]

We dont even know if thats what fixed it in poi

Use poi to check if that was it

If yes, we can explain why

And how to fix on not poi

But we dont know if it was backface culling

Again you need to check that

[timber delta]

Culling is set to off

I checked it in poi

[junior void]

Turn it to front

Does the issue come back

[timber delta]

no, but it does when i set it to back

[junior void]

Good, now we know what it is

In short: you cant fix this on any of the quest shaders

But you can fix this in blender so that it wont happen

[timber delta]

That's good to hear, how do I fix it?

[junior void]

Mesh has an inside and outside. Only the outside or "front" renders on mobile shaders. View it from the inside and its transparent as can be. You want to enable face orientation in blender under the viewport settings. Everything red is inside out

[queen trail]

when i tried uploading my avatar its does not upload and tells me to go to my console and i dont know what its telling me to fix

[junior void]

Read the second line of the first red error

[queen trail]

thanks

[timber delta]

oops

it works now

[queen trail]

oki

[half ice]

can anyone please tell me whats the best blender version for cats

and maybe a link to the version... thanks ...

[raven orbit]

not sure about cats but you can find previous releases of blender here https://download.blender.org/release/

[junior void]

If you join the cats discord, theres an faq channel that has all the answers

[grizzled crow]

what is the best way to change the body mesh of an avatar to a new shape? like.. if I want to give an avatar muscles or something else, how should I do it?

like.. I have two meshes

[half ice]

do you have cats discord ?

[grizzled crow]

and want to make the body of an avatar be that new shape, but i cant merge it due to shapekeys

[sharp kayak]

still have this problem, everything is mapped correctly

[junior void]

Try to set it to generic and back to humanoid and/or drag a new fbx to scene

[sharp kayak]

tried both, nothing

also speaking of fbx, everything broke after i reimported it

all stretched 😔

[somber sequoia]

Different export settings from the previous time, or you unpacked your avatar prefab

[sharp kayak]

yeah it's been unpacked

[somber sequoia]

yep, this won't work then.

[sharp kayak]

wait how do i fix this then

[somber sequoia]

Drag a new copy into the scene, copy stuff over, try to not unpack

[sharp kayak]

sigh okay

[elfin harbor]

I don't know why but this keeps on happening in vrc, now when I go into my avatar it's there (my head) then after a few minutes disappears, not this is only on my camera, face mirror, but main mirrors and placeable personal mirror is fine I have reduced the size of the boundary box and increased it but always the same.

[sharp kayak]

it fixed

Yay

[timber delta]

or i thought it did.. it looked like it did but now its doing this, its doing the same thing again but in a even wonkier way then before.. at least the textures are in the right places now lol rip

really weird

[raven orbit]

looks like the arms are still inverted. something that makes it easier check if the normals are right in blender is to enable backface culling in the solid view

[slow smelt]

looks like bad normals?, try turning off backface culling to confirm

aha i got sniped lol

[timber delta]

i dont see anything weird with the model in blender when i turn it off

hm

[raven orbit]

are there multiple mesh objects? try selecting everything then press Crtl+A and 'Apply all transforms'

[stark oak]

how do i record stream pov on my pc without headset/etc (i have obs)

[raven orbit]

if the model is a humanoid rig then you need to use humanoid transforms to animate the arms. also in order to move the hands you may need to disable arm/hand tracking when the animation is playing if it's not in the action menu

[raven orbit]

actually you may need to disable hand tracking in the action layer too idk i dont usually mess with that

tracking does matter in desktop, i've had a lot of trouble on a avatar before because i didn't understand that the nonvr version still emulates tracking to do animations (though what i had trouble with was the head position so, who knows, maybe it could be different for the arms?) And in unity, you need a different type of animation for humanoid bones. the way i usually make animations/poses for those bones is copying one of the proxy animations from the sdk samples and modifying that, it'll have all the keys for the humanoid transforms and you can just remove the ones you dont need. there is a way to add those keys with "add property" but i forget what dropdowns you'd need to press and it would take longer than copying an existing animation imo

and what i meant with disabling tracking is the animator tracking control

[somber sequoia]

this is a component you add onto an animation state

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#animator-tracking-control

[inland seal]

How do I make so all people on the server wont hear my audio. But only those that are close.

[timber delta]

i did that and then accidentally toggled face orientation and my arms are red
does that mean anything? everything else is blue

[somber sequoia]

you'll probably want to flip those faces so they're blue too

[inland seal]

help someone

[timber delta]

OOPS

that fixed it

[inland seal]

@somber sequoia

[somber sequoia]

please don't ping me for help unless I'm already helping you.

[inland seal]

I fixed it

Kinda

[raven orbit]

looks like the problems solved now but yeah that was my point, if an objects scale is negative in can cause inverted normals on export

[timber delta]

oneee last thing for now i promise xD everything else is working but i have leg bones on the model so it could detect as humanoid, but i dont want legs on the model at all and i want the torso to just be on the ground. but when i use it in game it makes me float and makes my avatar wonky, it also keeps saying my avatars feet are below the ground despite the bones literally floating off the ground in the pic

[raven orbit]

it's fine to go ahead and upload an avatar when warnings like that pop up. i think you could get the torso on the ground by selecting the avatar and just moving it down into the floor

[rancid light]

trying to optimize a vroid avatar for vrchat, specifically trying to make it quest-compatible so people can actually see it. this is as low as i can get the polys before things start clipping. last time i played consistently was back in 2019 so uh. i may be a bit behind on whats considered doable for quest/mobile players

any tips on further reducing poly count? other than removing the body under the clothes, which ill probably try doing anyways

if its a lost cause, ill just choose a nice fallback :P

[raven orbit]

take it into blender and either put a decimate modifier on it or if you know how to edit models manually disolve as many edgeloops as you can before it starts to lose it shape

[timber delta]

That's what I did but it gives me invisible legs weirdly

[raven orbit]

oh maybe it's not possible to move it the way i thought, i've accidently uploaded an avatar in the floor before so ik it's possible but probably not recomended

[stoic bobcat]

When I export a model from blender and put its animation on it, the position,scale and rotation gets messed up a bit and it tries to reposition itself in the animation for unity, any way to prevent this and have it be exactly how it is in blender?

[raven orbit]

maybe use gogoloco and just put yourself in the ground

[raven orbit]

are you asking how to export an animation from blender to unity? make the first frame the default pose then remove that frame in unity

[timber delta]

I tried but it messes with my viewpoint, it's where it should be on the model normally but with the invisible legs it makes everything wonky

[raven orbit]

sorry- i meant use gogoloco to move yourself ingame

and have it in a normal position when uploaded

[stoic bobcat]

I can try that, I’ll send a video when I can but when the animation plays the models animation gets out of position and tries to move itself back into place

[timber delta]

that may be a contributor... says the height is 2.15.. anyway i can correct it? its VERRYY wrong lol

[raven orbit]

thats something im not as sure about whats causing that 🥲 im more experienced on the blender side than the unity side

[timber delta]

😔

[vague stirrup]

Hey I cant seem to find anyone with the same issue, but I've made an avatar and everythings fine except for whenever I have a change of elevation in game (ie jumping or walking up something) my avatar freaks out, and spins uncontrollably, turning into a helicopter essentially. Not sure what I messed up or changed to cause this. Any ideas or anybody have the same issue before? It's a Booth Rindo model if that helps anything. Thanks

[runic ether]

My avatar mesh is doing a really wheir thing when I import the FBX file into Unity. It seems to deform for some reason at the feet. I checked the blendshapes and weights in blender and it didn't seem like anything was effecting it

[runic ether]

nvm figured it out, the heel bone was in a weird position so I just switched all weight influence to the foot bone

[sharp kayak]

would anyone know why the emmisive map is bleeding into the rest of the texture? i only have it set for the pupils, idk why it would be doing this

[half orbit]

So for some reason my avatar is failing everytime i try to upload it. It doesnt show anything is wrong in the splash panel... Is there anyway i can check/fix this?

[sly lodge]

any error messages?

[half orbit]

Yea

Ima send a ss

@sly lodge

[rancid light]

aint done optimizing the model in terms of tris and stuff, but does anybody know how i could edit these colliders so theyre single capsule-shaped ones instead of individual circles?

[sly lodge]

it says you have compiler errors, and that probably means you can't even enter the play mode

[half orbit]

Is there anyway to fix that?

[sly lodge]

do you have all the necessary packages installed for your avatar?

you probably have some broken or missing script on your avatar

[half orbit]

Tbh im like almost completely new to making avatars, ive made very few to start off and practice with. I dont know like all of the packages i need...

[sly lodge]

you can find those colliders in the hierarchy by typing t:VRCPhysBoneCollider on the search bar, then you can change the shape type to capsule

[sly lodge]

when you download an avatar, they usually specify what tools you need for your avatar

[half orbit]

So im not using an avatar i bought its a free lair base. I never really needed anything specific to upload it until recently

[spark walrus]

How can I extend the length of my avatars arms and legs without re-rigging? Is it possible?

[winter edge]

How can I remove unnecessary textures form a booth outfit in blender?

If I only use the shoes and delete the other meshes how can I delete the unsused portions from the texture map to reduce size

[sly lodge]

I think you can scale your armature inside in Unity on those parts

[sly lodge]

yeah I tried that avatar, it doesn't have any other requirements and works fine for me, it only needs the base SDK for the avatars, maybe there's some problem with your unity installation?

can you upload any other avatar?

[half orbit]

I can try one rq

[timber delta]

This bug on my avatar is annoying me a little, in my view I can see my torso, arms, etc, but I don't want to since it blocks some of my view, is this a viewpoint issue? How could I fix?
It also makes my neck on my view a weird.. stick thing
But it looks perfectly fine in mirrors and such

[sly lodge]

have you tried to adjust the view position?

[timber delta]

Yep

[sly lodge]

because it seems like your view point is far behind from your head for some reason

[timber delta]

Hmm

[half orbit]

Wait idk if i have the sdk

[sly lodge]

if you created your project through creator companion, then you probably have everything installed correclty

[half orbit]

Oh wait i do have it installed

Ima try to reset the sdk rq

I feel so dumb rn

[half orbit]

It doesn't work. It gives the same error.

[spark walrus]

Is there a way to do it in Blender?

[half orbit]

Yes.'

Press a to select all then scale them togethor.

[sly lodge]

maybe you can scale it in Blender too, but you would may want to apply that scaled bones as the new rest pose

[raven orbit]

you could go into pose mode in the armature and scale bones to the length you want, then apply the armature modifier on the mesh(es) and apply the pose as rest pose on the armature, then reparent the mesh to the armature with ctrl+p and armature deform

[median hemlock]

hi idk if its ok to ask this here since im not a developer but im having an error with an avis quest upload and idk how to fix it (havent uploaded in a while) anyone can possibly help?

[sly lodge]

did you try to upload a different avatar too?

[half orbit]

Yes

[sly lodge]

can you upload a default cube?

[half orbit]

Lemme see

[sly lodge]

then there's probably something wrong with your unity installation

[spark walrus]

I’m so sorry, I’m mostly new to this and I have no idea how to do that🥹

[raven orbit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=766q97OHy1E

[raven orbit]

okay one note i'd have on this video about the part at the end, do NOT press automatic weights, press armature deform. it will already have the vertex groups it just needs the armature modifier put back on it

[spark walrus]

Ok!

[half orbit]

Ok so i cant upload a standard cube so would i install the 3.6 v or the one off the website?

[arctic dune]

My avatar's mouth blendshapes don't look good when talking, especially if the teeth are posed for a grin or smile.

Is there a way to disable these kind of blendshapes when talking, sort of like how Hai's tools disable blinking on certain animations?

[sly lodge]

it's kinda hard to pin point whats breaking it from uploading, but reinstalling both unity and the creator companion may solve your issue

[frigid void]

how can I fix these? I’ve already deleted every asset that it isn’t spawning in with (its only one outfit + the avatar itself now) It also has no physbones

[raven orbit]

in the animator that controls expressions, you can create a neutral face state and transition to it when the Voice or Viseme parameters are greater than 0

[sly lodge]

you could try to reduce the texture size down to 2K or 1K, remove unused blenshapes, but it's kinda hard to know what's causing the biggest problem without knowing what stuff you have on your avatar

[frigid void]

i already changed the texture size to 256x256, how do i get rid of unused blendshapes?

[sly lodge]

you can use the d4rk avatar optimizer, or import your model in blender and manually remove them

but d4rk avatar optimizer can only work, if you don't have VRCFury

[half orbit]

Ok thank you!

[vague stirrup]

Hey I cant seem to find anyone with the same issue, but I've made an avatar and everythings fine except for whenever I have a change of elevation in game (ie jumping or walking up something) my avatar freaks out, and spins uncontrollably, turning into a helicopter essentially. Not sure what I messed up or changed to cause this. Any ideas or anybody have the same issue before? It's a Booth Rindo model if that helps anything. Thanks

[winter edge]

What are these normal maps used for in unity and how do you generate them in blender?

[raven orbit]

Normal maps control how light reflects on a surface, they can make a mesh appear to have detail that isn't directly modeled with geometry. There's a lot of ways to generate normal maps in blender depending on what you want to do and what your setup is, you could look up how to make normal maps in blender as I'm sure there's lots of tutorials but if you have a more specific question i might be able to help

[winter edge]

I see I'm trying currently trying to reduce wasted texture memory by rebaking textures and removing the portions that are no longer used.

I'm assuming if I update my UV map I will have to generate a new normal maps alongside my texture

[merry forum]

Hello, I have an older avatar from early 2020 (SDK2) and cannot use it anymore. Is this something that can be fixed? I dont understand how it can be a security threat. Any advice?

[raven orbit]

Yeah, you should be able to bake normal maps the same way as you would for other textures. If it doesn't work for some reason you might have to change the format of the image in the shader to non-color but i wouldnt worry about that unless something goes wrong

[raven orbit]

Reupload it

[hollow spade]

how do i fix this?

[somber meadow]

configure the rig, click pose > reset, then pose > enforce t-pose in the configurator

[hollow spade]

thank you so much

[foggy hornet]

For those of you with Novabeasts, the Parameters for Ear and Toe movement, are they particularly necesarry? (Will they not move by themselves via expressions otherwise?)

[brisk plank]

I need some help please. Up until a few days ago everything was fine but now some of my boyfriend's avatars are messed up. Some of his avatars appear highly pixilated ( kind of mindcraft like). He sees himself fine. If I wear his avatar he sees me perfectly fine. We both have verified integrity of game files and cleared cache. Does anyone know what I can do to fix this? We are both running VRC via Virtual Desktop/steam. I have a Q3 he has a Q2. Thanks in advance.

[raven orbit]

Sounds like the imposter system? If an avatar had a performance ranking above what you've set to be able to see then it can fall back on an imposter generated from your avatar.

[somber sequoia]

are you running the open beta?

[brisk plank]

I was on the beta and switched it back to the normal to see if it would fix the issue

[somber sequoia]

if so, there's some discussion about this in #open-beta-discussion , and if that's the issue, it's fixed by going back to the release version

(maybe)

[brisk plank]

So, the problem is on my end then? Is there a specific setting I need to look at? Is far as I am aware I have all of my avatar graphics turned up.

[raven orbit]

I think this in the settings under the avatars

[ornate stump]

Avatar load limit get set to zero when being in beta so you'd have to double check if it changed by itself.

[brisk plank]

Thanks a ton. I will check into it. I appreciate the help y'all.

[gloomy flint]

I'm trying to update an avatar I only realized after the fact was supposed to have the audiolink prefab on it (The shop didn't mention it under requirements) and when I try to add it, it says this when I try to upload. It's for the PC version only- and if I click auto fix, it removes the prefab and thus audiolink doesn't work in-game.

[left gull]

i havent messed around with audio link in awhile but you may have added the testing prefab rather then the actual one used for uploading perhaps?

[gloomy flint]

I clicked Add Audiolink prefab to scene

Do I attach it to the avatar I wish to upload? or do i keep it just in the scene itself and it'll still work

As in would i put it in the avatar's hierarchy or just leave it where it lies when I click Add AL

[somber sequoia]

You don't put that on your avatar, it's for testing in the scene only

[gloomy flint]

on the documentation it says to click the Add Audiolink Prefab to Scene do I just leave it OUT of the Avatar's hierarchy then??

[left gull]

pretty sure you only need to toggle it via your shader unless its been chang

changed*

[somber sequoia]

"scene" is not on the avatar. So yeah, just click that button and it should be in the scene just fine.

you seem to have dragged it onto the avatar, so just drag it off

[gloomy flint]

Let me leave it in the scene then and try updating to see if the AL works now

[somber sequoia]

this prefab has nothing to do with audiolink working on your avatar, it's just for in-unity testing

(and totally optional)

[gloomy flint]

Let me see if it works though bc I had to empty out my entire scene and re-add the unity package bc I forgot to put AL into the packages originally and wanted to absolutely make sure all settings wouldnt change

[somber sequoia]

audiolink on avatars happens in the shader

[gloomy flint]

alright it works now, and yeah ik but when i first imported the package I did not have the Audiolink package added to the project itself

So to make sure I didn't have to change any settings I just

yknow... deleted everything in the scene and then re-added the avatar's project lmao

[somber sequoia]

you don't technically need that in the project at all - again, only needed for in-unity testing

[gloomy flint]

I meant the actual project

this thing.

[somber sequoia]

yes

[gloomy flint]

I didn't have this thing originally. Because the shop didn't mention it at all.

[somber sequoia]

that's fine though, as I said

[gloomy flint]

So I deleted everything, added Audiolink to the project, then reimported the files. It didn't work originally my dude

[somber sequoia]

okay.

[quick cedar]

vrchat throws this damn error at me every time i try to upload it to any platform then it gets stuck on avatar built

[somber sequoia]

are you trying to upload a .vrca file?

[quick cedar]

no

i dont think so

https://tenor.com/view/clock-itft-clock-it's-time-for-the-clock-it's-time-for-the-itft-gif-2360857457803982107

embed fail

[limpid sphinx]

I am following a VRoid to VRchat avatar tutorial, and am currently at the step where I add eye tracking and blinking, the eye tracking works great but when I test the blinking it does this

why is this

[silver locust]

My feet are normal in blender and in Unity but when I upload it to VRChat one of them is tilted. Anyone know why this is happening?

also crouching brings the feet way off the ground for some reason

[somber sequoia]

Interesting.... I copied a project from one computer to another, and the pile of VRC Constraints on the scene I opened have lots all their transforms

[maiden marten]

Does anyone know how to upload an avatar? I don’t have a computer but I have the model file… I just need someone to upload it for me :(

[somber sequoia]

here's a basic tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSwMz4WcajQ

[maiden marten]

I said I don’t have a computer…

[somber sequoia]

oh, you'll need that

otherwise, it's not a good idea to upload for others, you'd probably only want to do that with someone you trust

[somber sequoia]

ooh, not just one scene, interesting

They keep the ones that are other objects in the scene, but not the ones that are actual bones on the avatar

or I somehow screwed this up badly in some other way, fascinating

[limpid sphinx]

all the shape keys are broken like this it seems, I made some edits to the mesh like joining the ears to the head mesh and adding new vertex groups with weights, will that mess with shape keys???

pls help

[midnight meteor]

could i get some physbone help (they are animated and have the animated box ticked)

[limpid sphinx]

she is in pain, please

[somber sequoia]

ahhh, nope, it was applying changes to a prefab full of rotation constraints that broke this. These constraints are so buggy.

[left gull]

quickest solution i can think of would be for you to just re-make the blendshapes/shapekeys yourself

[limpid sphinx]

aaaa... I guess one more thing to learn after this week of Blendering isnt so bad

do you have a tutorial you recommend

[left gull]

i dont have any videos on hand but just searching "how to make shapekeys in blender" will likely get you most of the way there explanation wise (simple answer is you're mainly just gonna wanna be moving the mesh either vert by vert or with the multiple sculpting tools to make your new viesemes and face expressions for each shapekey)

[grizzled lichen]

anyone know how i can add projectiles and such? i wanna make mario able to shoot fireballs when he has the fire mario toggle on

and make it bounce when hitting the ground if possible

[somber sequoia]

particle effects

[grizzled lichen]

you can do that with particles?

[somber sequoia]

sure

[grizzled lichen]

i'll find a tutorial tomorrow actually cuz its getting late now

but thanks

[somber sequoia]

the Unity asset store has a bunch of free particle packs, they're useful to pick apart to see how they work

[quick cedar]

Can anybody help me with this

[earnest jay]

how do i make it so the pc version of an avatar has all the pc shaders n stuff but it can still show up on quest just with the mobile shaders?

[night ember]

you just upload it on both platforms with the respective shader?

[earnest jay]

how? like just have to diff projects and upload it on the same build id?

[somber sequoia]

just use one project

[night ember]

you dont need separate projects

[raven orbit]

you can just duplicate the avatar in the scene and swap the materials on one

[earnest jay]

?

[raven orbit]

yeah

[spare lantern]

i fear iv asked this before but would anyone here know how to sync a avi toggle fore late world joins?

for example i have a speaker on my avi the is world constrained to spawn to my left but i will often sit on top of it and relax, however if someone shows my avi after iv already spawned the speaker or joins the world after i spawn the speaker instead of the speaker being where it is in relation to me (in this case under me as im playspaced up and sitting on it) it will still spawn to my left leaving me floating in the air.

[fallow gulch]

Take a look at this: https://github.com/VRLabs/Custom-Object-Sync

[spare lantern]

oooo thank ya kindly

[arctic ginkgo]

does anyone know if there's a way to preivew fallback shaders in unity?

i can't test in game (my pc can't run vrchat)

[earnest jay]

what

how od i fix that lol

its th eonly one that looks good

[raven orbit]

cant use it

[tender willow]

When I attempt to use the latest version of unity I get all uhh.. This

[inland seal]

Nvm, I'm still having the problem with sound. When I play it, everyone can hear it and it makes me embarrassing because people complain.

I made pc only so I can't turn it off on quest

[spice tiger]

Hi, how many time I need to wait for upload my avatar please ?

[left gull]

?upload

[flat musk]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[inland seal]

You need to have atleast "New User"

If im correct, to get it you need to play about 10h+?

I dont remember the real number

[cinder osprey]

hello when i change toggles im the only one that can see it does anyone know hjow to fix that

[spice tiger]

Thanks ^^

[compact mulch]

I toggle the parent gameobject but my mesh appears at the world spawn and never "respawns" at my avatar when I toggle it off/on

[inland seal]

.

[prisma sedge]

Make sure you check the "Synced" box in the parameters list

[cinder osprey]

i did that and its still not working is there anything else i can do

[prisma sedge]

If you haven't already add the "VRC Spatial Audio Source" component to the audio source and make sure that the max distance under the 3d sound settings isn't set to something like 500 or whatever the default is

[inland seal]

VRC Spatial Audio Sourdce?

How does it look like

oh

No I did not

;D

[somber meadow]

it's a component that goes alongside your audio source

[inland seal]

So I have to put it inside of each Part with sound?

What does gain do?

[somber meadow]

each object with a audiosource

if you don't VRChat will tack one on for you and set it to default options

[inland seal]

I set my min to 1 and max to 2

[prisma sedge]

That means anyone close in a 1 meter range won't be able to hear it and anyone outside that 2 meter range wont be able to hear it

[inland seal]

But the whole server does hear it ;D

Even if theyre 1000 blocks away

[somber meadow]

what rolloff are you using

[inland seal]

Im in college rn so Idk ;D

deafault that has been given?

[somber meadow]

Logarithmic is basically anywhere

either use a linear one or make your own

linear usually does fine for what I want

[inland seal]

Thats mine

[somber meadow]

make sure to enable "Use AudioSource Volume Curve"

VRChat's own falloff from their spatial audio source component can't be easily tested without rigorous in game test brute forcing

[inland seal]

uh ok

What is far?

Like how far the sound will go

[somber meadow]

yes if you were to use VRChat's falloff

but enabling "Use AudioSource Volume Curve" sets it to use the audio source values

[inland seal]

Ima try when I get home

thx ;D

[misty musk]

y is unity fuckig up so badly wtf did i do ? it looks fine in blender

[somber meadow]

your basis blendshape is broken in Blender

if you remove all shapekeys it'll most likely show this, pretty sure it's a old version Blender bug

[misty musk]

so how do i fix that??

[somber meadow]

What blender version are you using?

[misty musk]

2.92

[somber meadow]

Assuming you're on that version just cause of CATS?

[misty musk]

ye

[somber meadow]

https://catsblenderplugin.xyz/

There's an unofficial fork that supports 4.2

[misty musk]

so what do i do to fix this on the new blender versoin??

[somber meadow]

if it's not already fixed, you could try making a "New shape from mix" in the shapekeys (with all shapekeys set to 0) and applying that newly created empty shapekey to basis

[misty musk]

??? i like make a new shapekey??

im not that good at blender 😔

like everythings at 0 but do i uncheck it too

figured it out

tytytytyytyt

[zealous summit]

Your avatar is using a material (lil moe_pcss) that couldn't load properly.
The shader used by this material may be broken or out of date in your project. Ask the creator of this asset what shader and version should be used.
The vanilla shader at Assets/nHaruka/PCSS4VRC/PCSS4lilToon/Shaders/ltspass_opaque.lilcontainer has an internal error:
Packages/jp.lilxyzw.liltoon/Shader/Includes/lil_common_vert.hlsl:212 invalid subscript 'positionWS'

Does anyone know this bug?

[carmine robin]

i need help, whenever i export an avatar from blender back into unity it breaks the avatar. either the rigging is broken or the avatar is invisible. I've done this countless times now and never had any issues, now suddenly it doesn't want to work properly :< nothing has changed afaik since i last used blender and edited a model.

The model in blender is completely fine, however then in unity its invisible. im using the cats plugin on blender 4.0

[fallow gulch]

Changing certain things in Blender, like.. editing the rig, and then overwriting the FBX in Unity can break the avatar in Unity
In this case, you have to start from scratch with a new FBX in Unity.
You can however copy over physbones, colliders, and other stuff like that

[carmine robin]

That's weird it never did that before, what i did in blender was decrease the poly count and exported back to unity, even taking the model into blender not touching it then exporting does the same thing..

[ornate stump]

It has some certain conditions to make it happens: the model in the isn't an fbx prefab or variant from fbx, and updating by adding or removing object. Will cause object list in the scene no longer match with fbx file which cause breaking. In the case of just import and export that break it, it usually because of it exported with extra leaf bones, which make object list no longer match.

[carmine robin]

i don't know why its just suddenly doing this though, it never did this before, models i edited before do this now too. my export settings didn't change since i last used it, i put the FBX as a new in unity and its doing the same thing. the mesh is invisible 😦

this is my export settings

[barren wharf]

How do I remove the tattoos of routa

The avatar uses an expression to remove them

And i can't find where in poiyomi to remove it from the material

And if delete the texture the avatar gets fucked up

[echo dune]

validations not showing so i cant see what the issue is thats not allowing upload :(

[balmy barn]

disable error pause - restart unity (not sure you'd need to , but scripts can be wierd first time imported)- try build again more errors show up

[echo dune]

did those steps, same errors show up

well now theres more, but its just 534 of the same error listed over and over

I fixed it by hiding the avatar, uploading a different avatar, then going back and unhiding the original avatar. No idea why that fixed it but it did

[lofty gate]

how i export a unitypackage to a vrchat file i have all essential stuff installed but im lost its my first time that i try it

i figured it out

[subtle sigil]

in blender thet textures look fine but in unity it messes all up

it's an atlas

and an extra material

[lofty gate]

try it in vrchat mabye looks it good

[graceful mango]

im using the right shaders yet it wont apply?

[inland seal]

9.1.1 ~= 9.2.3

[inland seal]

It worked, thx

[dusk pulsar]

Since versions are different. Just re-assign poiyomi shader for each material by reselecting.

Unlock material, reselect poiyomi shader, lock it in, or don't, builder will do it automatically.

[spark walrus]

https://github.com/poiyomi/PoiyomiToonShader

[dusk pulsar]

They have pro version, why would they need toon which has less features. It could be the avi is using pro version.

[upper fog]

any reason that the lipsync portion of the avatar descriptor locks up after i set it once?

it wont let me change anything

[neat elk]

how can i fix this blush texture issue?

[ornate stump]

Make material render "Fade".

[neat elk]

where would that option be? I cant seem to find it

[ornate stump]

Look in the material file, or when selected the face object.

[neat elk]

here???

[grand scaffold]

right at the top

[neat elk]

found another option saying "transparent" seems to work since i didnt have "fade" option

[grizzled crow]

the avatar im making has wider shoulder armatures than the avatar its copying from.. how do I have it not force the armatures to the smaller size?

[somber sequoia]

definitely don't force anything about the armature, use the one that fits the model

[grizzled crow]

so if I made an avatar that is of a different armature size/configuration, i should try to use an armature that fits it?

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what you're trying to do here, just copy stuff on one avatar to the other? This shouldn't be much of a problem

[grizzled crow]

I made a modified version of an avatar that has slightly wider shoulder armature, and when I try to copy the stuff over from the original, the shoulders are moved inwards when I use the pose editor

[somber sequoia]

Huh, did you do the rig setup for the new model the normal way?

Do you have any weird constraints on those bones?

[grizzled crow]

I just made the shoulder bones slightly longer.. was there something else I needed to do in addition to that?

[somber sequoia]

you might need to check weight paint, but no, there shouldn't be anything very weird about that

you could probably just overwrite the FBX too, if you didn't unpack the avatar prefab

[grizzled crow]

the weight paint is all good and behaves as expected in blender.

[grizzled crow]

like.. this is what happens, the shoulder bones seem to be shortened..
I did export the avatar from blender and imported it into unity. I did import the unmodified avatar into the project beforehand

[somber sequoia]

huh, I'm not sure

[grizzled crow]

hm.... how do I make an animator for the avatar?

[somber sequoia]

in the project view, right-click, create, animation controller

or did you mean you don't have an animator component on the avatar root?

that usually gets added automatically when you do the rig setup as humanoid

[grizzled crow]

is the rig setup done usually in blender?

[somber sequoia]

I meant the setup you do in Unity when you first drag in the model file and set it up

you create the armature in Blender, but have to set it up as humanoid in Unity

[grizzled crow]

ok

ah.. I dont have an animator compomnent on the avatar root

[somber sequoia]

do you have the rig setup as humanoid?

[grizzled crow]

how do I do that?

[somber sequoia]

I'd watch a basic "setup your avatar" tutorial, the visuals will help

[grizzled crow]

ah ok.. figuring it out

tho at the same time, realized I broke the mesh for the paws in blender at some point so I need to redo that part

[mortal solstice]

Hey! so im trying to add a specific assest that is already premade, into my avatar. i dont know how to add the premade menu into the avatars menu. can someone give me a short tutorial w/o giving me a video? or find a good video?

[obtuse elk]

i want to create a massage gun, kinda like the old popcorn palace one, but i don't know how to send haptics to controllers

i tried vrcfury haptic touch sender

but i think i gotta use contact sender

right?

[left gull]

id double check your asset didnt come with a how-to tutorial (usually either a PDF,TXT or MP4)

[mortal solstice]

i did, but im not really a reading learner, in a visual learner

[junior void]

Why does everyone say that

[mortal solstice]

🤷‍♀️

i got it for the most half, but i never know where to go, im kinda new to unity in a way

just not used to toggles yet

[left gull]

you should always learn the program you're using before buying content for it

[wind skiff]

get the shader from the legitimate source 🙂

[balmy pumice]

Quick one, where can i find the Animator file that comes default with VRChat?

[somber sequoia]

animator file?

[balmy pumice]

File that carries the default motion files and blend trees that is used by the Animator component

I still wanna tinker with making a different run animation for a PC model

[somber sequoia]

there's no one animator but there are sample layers in Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Samples/AV3\ Demo\ Assets/Animation/Controllers

[timber wharf]

i mean, they are animators

[somber sequoia]

they are

[timber wharf]

thanks devs for great naming!

[balmy pumice]

Yeah it's still all tricky since i know you can swap out an animation file but i know the animation component also asks for a controller often made by making a Humanoid rig and the options say Make Animator from it or something like that, so figured VRC had a file like that but it has multiple ones so makes it confusing if theres a main one that is referenced or if it is referring to 5 controllers

Not saying layers like BASE or FX

[timber wharf]

base=locomotion

[balmy pumice]

Thanks

[timber wharf]

just dont edit it, copy and move to assets

edits of og would be lost on sdk update

[grizzled crow]

how do I move the camera? currently its in my avatar's crotch

[left gull]

if you mean its there in-game you might have to move the viewpoint up in your unity project's avatar descriptor

[grizzled crow]

ok got it

[stable spire]

I'm having trouble uploading my avatar to anything but PC. everything seems to go fine in unity, but when I check the website it only shows for PC. also whenever I try to upload for android or IOS, the performance rating fails, but when I reupload for PC, its fine again.

its like its uploading the andriod/ios versions to the PC version or something.

[raven orbit]

i've had a similar problem for some of my avatars and i just had to reupload the platforms that weren't working until it did work 🙃 maybe something to try is wait a few minutes between uploading each version. but what do you mean by "performance rating fails"? and what does the performance rating/validations say on the upload menu for android and ios

[grizzled crow]

i have bones in the tail.. how do I make it move or drag behind my movement?

rn its completely stiff

[somber sequoia]

add a physbone component!

[spark walrus]

Hello hello! Anyone know how to add a card bending asset to an avatar? I don’t know how to do toggles and I’m very new with avatars…

I have the asset and the files for the avatar… if anyone can help

[raven orbit]

yeah seems similar to what i had. i would upload it to pc, then after trying to upload it to other platforms the pc version would change to security checks failed. basically had to repeatedly upload on each platform until it worked 😭 i think i was trying to upload it too fast though

[raven orbit]

the place you got it from would have instructions i'd think? does it say it uses VRCFury

[spark walrus]

Idk

I’m on my way to work so I’ll have to look later

[stable spire]

I think I found a solution. It worked after uploading to PC, switch to android, close and then reopen the project, and then upload for android.

[somber sequoia]

Liindy's stuff usually comes with very detailed instructions

[spark walrus]

I don’t know how to use vrc fury or creator companion

I don’t use them

[raven orbit]

i dont use vrcfury either but using creator companion definitely help out a lot for setting up projects

[spark walrus]

I don’t know what I’m doing at all I started making avatars a day ago…

[raven orbit]

interesting solution, that would take so long for me though to have to reopen the project maybe i'll try that next time i upload

[split cairn]

Having some issues with this tail, can only get some parts to turn the desired color but others refuse? What am i doing wrong?

also as a heads up this is my first edit, I only know some basic stuff

[raven orbit]

are you trying to make half the tail those other colors

[split cairn]

yes

[raven orbit]

for everything you have selected in the 3d view, you'd have to have it selected in the UV Editor as well and move it to those colored parts. it looks like you only have a few sections in the blue part. where's the rest of the uv map?

[split cairn]

good question, i don't know

let me look again

[raven orbit]

in the uv editor press a to select/highlight everything

[timber wharf]

switch to face selection (3) and activate xray (alt+z) to properly select stuff in 3d

[raven orbit]

oh wait i didnt even notice they might not have the full parts selected lmao

@split cairn in the 3d view do ctrl+L to select linked

(assuming the fur parts are different surfaces)

[split cairn]

I'm going to try that

[raven orbit]

if it selects too much do what theleastmost said

[split cairn]

so just to get this right, i can't use the select box right?

[timber wharf]

you can

but theres more to it than just selection shape

[raven orbit]

you can add to a selection by holding shift

[split cairn]

cause when i try to use it, that doesn't give the points in UV editing

[raven orbit]

you have to select whole faces to do UV editing

what you were doing was just selecting vertices

[split cairn]

so could i possibly use the select box to add the faces?

[raven orbit]

yeah

select by linked would make this a lot easier though

or hitting ctrl & + (on the numpad) to select the nearest linked faces

[split cairn]

ctrl + just zooms the cam for me

[raven orbit]

my bad i meant the numpad, which you may or may not have

[split cairn]

oh sorry i missed the numpad part

[raven orbit]

i added it after in an edit lol

[split cairn]

hey it works!

thanks

[raven orbit]

from a quick google search https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGMv0X0uDy8

[somber sequoia]

I often work on my laptop and this is the one thing I miss most from the real keyboard 🙂

[raven orbit]

literally bought usb numpad so i could work on blender on my laptop 😩

[somber sequoia]

ha!

I've got a second trackball 'cause I hate navigating Blender with the laptop touchpad

haven't considered a numpad yet, I just deal

[raven orbit]

yeah i hate using trackpads in general, i always carry around an extra mouse

[somber sequoia]

ah I don't otherwise, just for Blender

[hidden orchid]

My visems are not working and i have them correctly assigned,
If i remove my custome Action Animator, Gesture animator and FX animator, it works, but now while 1 of them is assigned, i dont know what i did to make it bug out, also im usign gogoloco, with vrcfury auto setup dont know if the combination of this things is messing something up

[somber meadow]

do you have to remove all your playable layers or have you tested removing them one by one to test which one it is?

sounds like there's a tracking control behavior on your avatar locking visemes

[hidden orchid]

Yes i remove one at a time and still the visems where blocked

[grizzled lynx]

Like any free to play user I used the Manual way which is to reupload the Avatars from unity, but when I put the avatar in the editor it was completely gray no material no nocolors

[somber meadow]

What avatar are you trying to upload, can you provide a link?

You most likely are trying to setup the FBX manually, the avatar is most likely setup already in a prefab or scene file

[grizzled lynx]

Aright, lemme see

Is it allowed here?

But I'll send it

[somber meadow]

oh yeah that website is extremely old and known for hosting stolen content

probably should try Jinxxy to find free avatars if you need

[worn kiln]

also commonly contain virus.

[grizzled lynx]

But it works

Ok

No I didn't mean that the issue is solved , just the file is safe

[worn kiln]

stolen contents usage be against ToS or/and Law anyway which may lead you to ban (not always).

[grizzled lynx]

Oh

I Didn't know that before

[worn kiln]

sometimes, people put something malicious too

anyway, not worse risk.

[split cairn]

trying to select the first blob of points to move to different color but i end up move everything else. How might i fix this?

nevermind

got it fixed

[somber sequoia]

Remember that if you move UV islands around, that applies to all of the textures used by the material - I see there's some hair strand effect there, if there's a normal map with this or other things, they will be affected, possibly negatively.

[primal spruce]

Can somebody help me make this vrchat avatar for quest?

i foudn this free model online and i wanna make it quest comp but it keeps saying fix problems above when i click autofix
(i know near nothing abt unityy)

[left gull]

where'd you find the model?

because it seems you didnt read the description of the download page for required imports/setup

[night ember]

whered you get the avatar

[primal spruce]

can i drop links here? (if not gumroad)

[left gull]

yep

[primal spruce]

https://xetirano.gumroad.com/l/dvdmrtnz?layout=profile&recommended_by=more_like_this&recommender_model_name=sales&_gl=1*1yzs75k*_ga*Nzc2NDI5OTczLjE3MjU2MzQ0MzQ.*_ga_6LJN6D94N6*MTczMjA0OTcwNi40NC4xLjE3MzIwNTAxMjAuMC4wLjA.

thats where i got it from

[left gull]

ah its just poorly set up

[primal spruce]

i mean i uploaded it on pc just fine

just cant figure out what to do for quest version

[left gull]

generally you should remove any imports of shaders that come with the package (the "hidden" part is what sketched me out) and get them legitimately

to fix your issue just swap all the materials used to a shader under Vrchat/Mobile

[night ember]

"hidden" just means it doesnt show up when searching for the specific shader because its a locked poiyomi shader which is an auto generated more optimized version of the shader

[light charm]

mine shows up as hidden when i've locked the poiyomi shader

it's normal

[primal spruce]

(also if it helps they only gave 1 file)

[left gull]

oh i know but often times i'll only see it when either its packaged wrong or its from a leaked/ripped model :P

[night ember]

just change the material's shader to vrchat shaders

[night ember]

it happens literally every time you use poiyomi

you cant use poiyomi without locking it

[glass condor]

I'm back to ask more dumb questions about blender! Namely, is it ok that my model looks like this in Object mode...

[primal spruce]

so these?

[glass condor]

but like this in Edit mode?

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

[glass condor]

oof sorry for interrupting btw

[light charm]

the arms need to be more straight
also the edit mode's pose has no impact, don't worry

[primal spruce]

im not sure how to do that tho

[glass condor]

ok, thanks 🙏🏿

[light charm]

also the legs need to be closer together

[night ember]

its at the top of the material

"Shader"

change it to a vrchat mobile shader like standard lite

[primal spruce]

leme see

all of them?

[night ember]

all of the ones your avatar uses

[primal spruce]

jesus its terrifying now

[primal spruce]

what about this?

[night ember]

thats not a material

[primal spruce]

well thank you
I can upload it now (beside it looking terrifying and abandonded for 1000s of years) it works

[hidden orchid]

Do i have to make a manual controler in my FX using the visems to avoid the freeze conflict?

[blissful mantle]

how to fix this being green and 0?

it always is enabled on default no matter

[balmy barn]

never animate viseme's unless you want to break them

[long lava]

Hey, sorry, Unity noob here, I'm trying to make an animation for a property which rotates a bone, but whenever i click on the Record button, the position and rotation of the bone turns red and i cannot change it.
Is there a way to rotate a bone using animations?

[hidden orchid]

im not animating them yet, like i mention i added an actionm layer/gesture layer/fx layer and now they dont work, and i cannot find why, i activate them and deactivate each one of them and the only way to fix it is deleting the 3 animator layers

[arctic ginkgo]

one of the animations in there probably has them animated

did you by chance create animations in blender and then import them into unity?

[raven orbit]

what bone are you trying to animate?

[hidden orchid]

ohhhh let me check

[hidden orchid]

yeah ill check that

[arctic ginkgo]

if you did then they will have all blendshapes animated to 0, just remove properties

[long lava]

The tail
but it's okay, i managed to do it using Add Property :)

oh wait nvm, it still goes back to default when i play the animation

Is it because it is affected with PhysBones?

[hidden orchid]

omg it was that!! thank you i didnt think tthose afected the animation Thank youu!!

[raven orbit]

maybe, there is an options in the physbone settings to allow it to be animated

[fierce spear]

I dont think there

's an easy fix for this is there

[timber wharf]

if its quest, no

[fierce spear]

sigh blender and suffering it is...

[long lava]

Oh!! I have to enable that--
Thanks, i'll try it out!

Didn't worked sadly, even the bones that aren't PhysBones are red :/

[somber sequoia]

red doesn't mean "you can't animate this"

[long lava]

But when i set a value, it goes back to where it was

And when I add it using "Add parameter", it just ignores it

[raven orbit]

are you making animations using an animator controller on the avatar?

[long lava]

Yes

[lunar egret]

how do you add a new texture to an avatar ? for context, its a makeup retexture package and its a PNG of the texture, but i cant drag and drop it into the project like most youtube videos say to do

[raven orbit]

if its a unitypackage i think you can just double click it then you'll get a popup to add it to your project

if its just a png file and dragging that in doesnt work for you, you can copy and paste it in directly to the assets folder in your project in the file explorer

[lunar egret]

thankuu^^

[ancient herald]

yo wthhh lol

[long lava]

Hey, another question
Is there a way to put a limit to where the eyeballs go, in term of eye movements?
I have an issue where the eye movements works, but when i move my head too much, the eyeball just go inside the body--

[ancient herald]

recently bought this avi for someone, the quest side some of the clothes are like seethroughish how do i fix it?

[long lava]

Oh! That is because of backface culling, it is hidden on Unity, but i don't know if it is on VRChat?

[heavy zephyr]

The eye movements limits are set on your avatar decriptor component under "EyeLook"

[ancient herald]

oh, so it'll look better in game?

[long lava]

I don't know, haven't tested

[ancient herald]

haven't seen anyone with the matching to my pfp yet, it's so weird

[heavy zephyr]

Was the avatar made for quest? Quest shaders cannot change culling options so that will stay like this

[ancient herald]

yes it's made for quest so there's no way to fix it?

[raven orbit]

in blender you can duplicate that part and flip the normals to fix it

[long lava]

I have set the "rotation states", but my eyes still kinda leave, idk if i did something wrong

[heavy zephyr]

It's very odd then, as the person right above said you'll need to use blender

[ancient herald]

aww damn i have almost no blender experience 😦

[ancient herald]

maybe bc the avi is kinda oldish

[heavy zephyr]

You should have a section for "Look right/left/up/down and front. Those are used to set the maximum rotation of the eyes in each direction

[long lava]

oh
i must be blind then

[ancient herald]

it's on the inspector tab

[long lava]

well that's really all i got for the eyes

[ancient herald]

i've never messed with that, i wish i could helpppp

time to learn blenderrrrrr

[long lava]

and the rotation states are set properly i guess

[ancient herald]

jumpscare haha

[raven orbit]

username check out

[long lava]

sorry about that

[ancient herald]

he's kinda cute tbh

[long lava]

okay, i am pretty sure that anything i touch on unity breaks

and i got no reasons why

[balmy barn]

Eyebones on that one straight up in blender? rarely ever need a value in looking straight

[raven orbit]

could be possible that looking up/down or left/right at the same time is doubling up and putting the eyeballs in the body

[long lava]

I do not know why, but on Unity, it is looking straight up

While on Blender i did set it correctly

[balmy barn]

eyebones in vrchat wants to be straight up and forces them

[raven orbit]

now remembering i had this issue and that was the solution

[long lava]

blender and unity

[balmy barn]

rotates around

[long lava]

i-

okay sure

i'll try that, thanks :)

eeeeeh i'm probably too tired for this, it broke the eyes even further lol

oh well, i'll try again tomorrow, thanks :)

[cyan viper]

Is it possible to change the default blink animation, or can you only do that by disabling it in the descriptor and adding an idle animation the FX layer?

The default one has always messed up my expressions on avatars by freezing in the middle of one so I use an animation I made, but users with eye tracking want to be able to blink on their own

For example the avatar blinks in the middle of you pointing, so now your eyes are half open until you switch expressions

[timber delta]

hey, still having the issue where my avatar has no legs and it keeps making me float because i have legs bones so it can detect as humanoid
ive tried putting the bones under the floor but it just makes him float anyways, gogoloco works as a temporary fix but is annoying to have to set it everytime i go to a world with the avatar

[raven orbit]

maybe make the legs stupidly tiny 💀

[timber delta]

YEAH THATD WORK
that looks so goofy ngl HSDHFHSDHFSDH

[sand python]

Hello there! So I have a quick question?

Is it possible to convert a 2.0 avatar that was used with a 2.0 sdk to 3.0?

[night ember]

I mean if you have the fbx for it then sure?

an avatar isnt exactly locked to a specific version of the sdk

from old to new sdk I mean

[sand python]

So if I have the package for the avi than it’s possible?

[night ember]

if you have the fbx

avtr file or prefab doesnt count

[sand python]

I think I have the fbx

Would you be able to help me in figuring that out?

I would appreciate it a ton!

[half ice]

whats the best blender version for editing avatars ?

[sand python]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-googly-eyes-puss-in-boots-please-gif-1390997590054984239

[night ember]

any version works

[long lava]

YO
UPDATE ON MY EYES PROBLEMS
uh
it kinda got fixed all by itself?
like-- it works now???
uuhhhh,,, well all i did was just mess around with random stuff, but didn't really change anything, and then still updated the avatar

so uhm
success i guess

[half stirrup]

confused with unity again, following a tutorial to remove some physbones so i can make my avi a quest version, this guy has a physbones thing in inspector when clicked on armature so you're able to see ALL physbones, but i dont? is there something im missing?

[vast gulch]

Have you figured it out yet?

[half stirrup]

also when clicked on armature i see nothing so :P

[quick cedar]

unity gives me this error [Always] New image url is empty, aborting and then says upload succeeded and the avatar just isnt uploaded

if anybody could help

i would be grateful

[raven orbit]

that just looks like they have a physbone component on the armature? and i've seen people mention here there's a way to search for everything in a scene with a physbone component but i dont remember what it was

[vast gulch]

you can click "select" on the vrc sdk panel

[half stirrup]

still seeing the same stuff when i do that too

i have to fix all this so im able to upload the quest version i might blow up n die

[sharp kayak]

anyone know why the white would be leaking into the material? i have an atlas material set up, it shouldnt be doing this, idk why it is

[raven orbit]

figured it out ( t:vrcphysbone )

[raven orbit]

well for the first thing you need to change the materials to use vrchat/mobile/standard lite instead of 'Standard"

[half stirrup]

bless 🙏

[half stirrup]

i was doing uhh toonlit for all my mats

[raven orbit]

oh

[simple thorn]

so im making a clothing asset and need to know how to erase this because the subtraction tool isnt doing any thing '

[near marsh]

im assuming this is weight paint?

[simple thorn]

yeah

[near marsh]

not sure why some of it is just gone, but you want to make the uhh

hold on im really bad at explaining things non visually

lemme open blender

[simple thorn]

i noticed some thing was moving with the upper arm so i went to weight paint it and it just kinda didn't want to

idk how to explain it better then that

[near marsh]

for something like this,

turn the weight value to 0

then you draw over the spots that you dont want to move with the sleeve

you can also use the radial gradent tool

but some of your jacket mesh looks black, rathern than the blue that unweighted parts normally are

[simple thorn]

my blender updated

[near marsh]

ohh that would do it. i use 3.6

[simple thorn]

its also still not working :/

[near marsh]

hm

[simple thorn]

like its literally just not going away idk why

[raven orbit]

i think black means those sections are not in the active vertex group. you can remove sections from a vertex group manually in edit mode by selecting the parts you dont want in a group then going into the vertex groups menu, selecting the group you want to edit, and click remove

(dont use gradient for this)

[restive bronze]

I need some help. I'm trying to add a custom sprint animation to my avatar, but the tutorial I'm following says to use the locomotion controller.... I can't find it anywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tpBUID0a1k

this is the tutorial I'm using

[raven orbit]

look through the sdk files for a samples folder

[half stirrup]

i changed everything to standard lite but its still sayin this

[restive bronze]

It doesn't show the VRChat SDK-Avatars folder in my Project list. There's only this dropdown menu and I still can't see it

do I need to start over or something?

[raven orbit]

something is still using the standard shader, and you said you wanted to use toon lit which should work as lond as its under the vrchat/mobile shaders

[raven orbit]

i meant at the bottom of the screen where the assets are

project window

under packages

[restive bronze]

thank you

idk why the search wouldn't even show it

[half stirrup]

is there a way i can search it in the hierarchy

[raven orbit]

how many materials do you have...?

[raven orbit]

i think you need to look through all your meshes and check what material they are using

[sharp kayak]

anyone?

[half stirrup]

too many 😭 im just going through all materials and seeing which ones have standard so im good

[raven orbit]

dont think anyone can tell without seeing the uv map/texture

[sharp kayak]

do you need the base texture or emission texture

[raven orbit]

if you have so many is that even gonna work on quest? 🙃

[barren wharf]

how do i easily make my avatar's head skin color match the body

[sharp kayak]

heres both

[barren wharf]

it looks fine in unity but when i go in game it dosen't

[quasi briar]

It could be texture mipmapping (the texture reduces in resolution when viewed from far away, causing the white to bleed over into other UV islands)

[sharp kayak]

also, it works in blender

[half stirrup]

im deleting a bunch of them lol

[quasi briar]

Solution would be to make the borders around the uv maps larger

[barren wharf]

how do i do that

[quasi briar]

Well if your UVs are really close together you need to go into blender and select the ones that are having this issue and spread them apart (and change texture if necessary). If the UVs are far apart though, then you can just change the texture by drawing a little outside the lines on each of the UV islands

[raven orbit]

i think their answer was for mysteryperson's question

[quasi briar]

ye

[sharp kayak]

let me try something

[raven orbit]

there's a lot of things that could be causing that, we'd need more info

[quasi briar]

For the skin/head color problem it's a bit complex. First you want to make sure the textures match.. that takes manual editing. Then you need to make sure that both shaders are using similar settings, if it's using separate materials that is

[sharp kayak]

i fixed it, thank you!

[half stirrup]

all the materials say standard lite now but its still giving me this error @raven orbit

[woeful sleet]

So I am uploading an avi with VRCFury in it, and this keeps popping up. How do I feix it?

[raven orbit]

well that means something is still using the standard shader. i don't know how to search for that, best advice i can give is organize your project and keep all the materials in the same folder @half stirrup

[half stirrup]

maybe for the quest version i should just get rid of all the outfits and accessories i have? i have no clue what to do about it lol

[quick cedar]

unity gives me this error when uploading [Always] New image url is empty, aborting then says the avatar was sucessfully uploaded and it just isnt uploaded

[raven orbit]

oh i figured out how to search by type: material, but this might be a headache if you have poiyomi in the project (t:Material)

[half stirrup]

there are some materials that are greyed out and cant do anything with, would this maybe be the issue? i cant delete them either, since its greyed out as well

[quick cedar]

I know how to fix that

You extract the material to a folder in the unity project

Then you change the shader

[half stirrup]

extract prefab?

or am i dumb

[quick cedar]

Lemme give an example

Yeah you right

Extract from prefab

Then it should let you change the shader

[somber sequoia]

two things to remember here - weight paint is a matter of balance - if you remove weight from one group another one gets it. If you only have some mesh weighted to one bone then it's always 100% weighted to that bone.
2: you can simply go into mesh edit mode and remove those vertices from the weight paint vertex group

[quick cedar]

Forgot about the embed fail

[half stirrup]

got it, theres just 2 that wont let me extract at all

[quick cedar]

Oh

[half stirrup]

wait i got it lol

alright the shader problem is fixed

now its just this

removed phys from hair, all good now

[torn vector]

When i set mat to transparent it xrays through evrything else on the avatar idk why

[raven orbit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvaoZJmjENs

[somber meadow]

don't merge materials of transparent stuff to opaque things

[half stirrup]

is this basically telling me i have to go into vrc and change my avi download size?

[raven orbit]

you cant upload any avatar on quest that has a download size of over 10MB, biggest thing thats gonna take up the download size is textures

[half stirrup]

hmmnnn

gonna have to delete all the outfits and accessories rip 💀

[somber sequoia]

put 'em onto multiple avatars instead

[glass fulcrum]

What causes an error that makes your model disappear and your camera float freely?

[foggy hornet]

Hey y'all, If I disable the parameters for the Ears and Toe movement for a Novabeast, do Expressions that change facial blendshape still move them?

[half stirrup]

oh okay cool i was going through materials and deleting the ones i didnt need because i removed a lot of stuff and it made my avatar neon purple and i cant get it to go back so now i have to restart yay

[dark jay]

Anyone got any anime matcaps they can share with me

[somber sequoia]

what's that mean exactly?

like what would be specifically anime about a matcap

[dark jay]

Do u not know what a matcap is

[somber sequoia]

of course I do

[dark jay]

I use it with poiyomi. And matcap lit

[somber sequoia]

okay....

[dark jay]

I wanted a few so i can try with my anime models

[somber sequoia]

right but I'm not sure what needs to be anime specific

[dark jay]

Idk

[somber sequoia]

anyway, this site has a LOT of matcaps, I pull from here from time to time:
https://github.com/nidorx/matcaps

[dark jay]

One thats used with anime/toon model

Ok

Idk why u make it harder then it has to be

[somber sequoia]

because I was trying to figure out what you were looking for

[dark jay]

Ok

[grizzled crow]

how do I use the physbone component? I just.. add it?

[somber sequoia]

sure? the docs do explain most of the options, I'd start there if you haven't read them