avatar-help

[ornate stump]

Just change shader in material.

[split cairn]

I don’t know how to do that

Even if I could, the material is still showing as an error

It would be purple

[ornate stump]

Did you just assume without trying?

[ornate stump]

Inspect the materials. It will be a word "Shader" for you to change to other shader.

It's quiet obvious once you just looked at it.

[split cairn]

Yes I know, but on that other model, the white one, I couldn’t select the right material

I just want to fix this error one at this point

[ornate stump]

You select the model object and see material list in the inspector.

[split cairn]

This?

[ornate stump]

Yes. And could also click on the face in the scene.

[split cairn]

Oh, I just swapped the material, that fixed the error purple

[split cairn]

I’m uploading the Vrchat Demo avatar first to make sure stuff works

[wind skiff]

set the Head as the physbone root and ignore any non-hair transforms

[wind skiff]

btw, shift+windows+s to take a screenshot

[fiery tiger]

i asked this a few days ago but did a vrc update break seats? i had the avatar made around june/july and it kept working until around october

[split cairn]

Thanks

[exotic light]

So, steam link now supports finger tracking for the quest 3, which is neat! I'm noticing that the hand positions being created don't quite line up the way I'd like, is there some way to tweak how the input affects the avatar rig?

E.g. in the back of my head, it seems like my open hand causes it to go to something pretty similar to the default proxy_hands_idle, which doesn't look super great on my avi

[fluid ledge]

Do you really need unity to import a model? Is there a free version of unity? Any help is appreciated (I am trying to import a 3d v-tuber model)

[small valve]

How do I test VRC Avatar Receiver, if I want to test them in the Scene and not in VRChat by hoping and asking some randoms to interact with me.

[grand scaffold]

Unity is required but it is free for personal use.

[fluid ledge]

Ouu okay thankyou sm (alsoilovestocking)

[indigo compass]

Use gesture manager (pretty sure it is already in VCC, so you can easily add it through there), create an game object with a contact sender, at the top bar click gesture manager it will add a prefab to your scene, go into play mode and click the gesture manager prefab.
Now you can just move the contact sender game object to whatever part you want to activate and gesture manager will emulate what the avatar would do.

[hazy flax]

im sorry if im in the wrong channel, but can someone help me with that?
im stuck on that screen..

[versed pasture]

Any reason why this could happen? When I upload the PC version its fine. But once I upload the Android version the avatar is getting blocked and greyed out on my account. Its rated excellent on PC, Poor on Quest. The quest upload is also successful without any warnings. Using the vrchat mibile stndard lite shader. Not sure how I could approach it as i am not getting any detailed warning. Just security checks failed.

[somber sequoia]

Probably some stat is way outside of bounds - post the warnings in the build window?

[somber sequoia]

oh - that's not bad at all

[timber wharf]

you can contact an actual support in case of clearly false fail

[fair hound]

Why I see my upload avatar in grey color and I can’t use? What is the error here or how can I solve it?

[worn kiln]

seems security check failed. reupload it.

[versed pasture]

Same one I have.

[versed pasture]

For me its happenign every time I upload...

at least when i upload the quest version

[worn kiln]

update SDK to latest. then should be blocked on upload if there is issue

[versed pasture]

Everything is on the latest version

[worn kiln]

huh...try with 3.7.2 maybe.

[versed pasture]

Still failing. I even deactivated all materials and deactivated gogo loco. Its always failing

[worn kiln]

try reduce tex size (include profile) which is most common one.
also good idea to check console as usually shown something event it success.

[versed pasture]

tex size? you mean texture? Its 0 because i deactivated all amterials to test. I also get no errors in the console. The validations in the build window are also okay

[raven orbit]

I had this issue where it kept doing security checks failed and i just had to repeatedly upload it until it worked

[somber sequoia]

oh - do you have a particle system which destroys itself on stop?

[versed pasture]

I did it almost 10 times already today. I cant find any solution...

[somber sequoia]

I forget if the SDK catches that yet

[versed pasture]

no. there isnt really anything special in the avatar

[unreal basin]

does anyone know why the additive isnt showing up? ive tried resetting it to defaults and its not showing up

ive even tried re opining my unity project

everything i have is fully up to date

[somber sequoia]

is your rig not humanoid?

[unreal basin]

it is

hm

[somber sequoia]

ah yep, fix that

[unreal basin]

the only issue is, its not a proper tpose

[somber sequoia]

there's a "enforce t-pose" under the little pose dropdown near the bottom of the rig setup window, try that

[unreal basin]

aight let me do that

i press "apply" and the "done" and the error message is still there

im thinking it might be a weightpainting issue

[ornate stump]

You might have to read the message.

[somber sequoia]

that shouldn't be an issue

[somber sequoia]

ah! That's the problem

[unreal basin]

i have no clue what this means, im so sorry

[somber sequoia]

it means you have two things named Spine

one is clearly the actual spine bone. not sure what the other is, but find it and delete it or change its name

[unreal basin]

Ahhhh

Do i go back to blender and change it there?

or can i change it in unity?

[somber sequoia]

if it's part of the packed model that comes from Blender, I'd go change it there.

[unreal basin]

aight

[somber sequoia]

because you don't want to unpack it.

you didn't unpack it, right? 🙂

[unreal basin]

Nope

[somber sequoia]

good, don't.

[unreal basin]

Oki doki

Ill change it in blender

I apprciate the help!

[supple needle]

What is the simplest way to UV unwrap a model in blender ? I’ve tried watching videos but I tend to get lost when it talks about short paths.

[somber sequoia]

Mark seams where you think they should be (it helps to study clothing seams here), then when you select those will be island borders

[shrewd edge]

unrelated but why shouldnt you unpack it?

[somber sequoia]

it breaks the link that allows you to overwrite the FBX. And there's almost no reason to unpack anyway

you sometimes have to with props, but for main models, avoid it if you can

[supple needle]

I don’t quite understand as to where I should think of them to be. I’m trying to unwrap a furry model so I can retexture it in procreate on my tablet

[somber sequoia]

yep, that's the challenge 🙂

One thing you can do is find an existing model and look at how it was unwrapped

[supple needle]

Not sure where to find an existing model at

[somber sequoia]

there are lots of free avatars

but there's no real right or wrong answers here

[supple needle]

Hmm.

[simple sphinx]

in unity I have a menu setup like this

but in VRC it looks like this

whats wrong?

it just says button text on all of them despite none of them being named that, and none of the toggles actually work

[supple needle]

I figured out that obj files are compatible with procreate. But when attempting to import, I get the popup “Model contains no meshes, this model has no valid meshes”

[cursive gorge]

is this normal?

i presume not

[somber meadow]

Those are inside colliders for skirt physbones

looks like a normal setup

[cursive gorge]

they supposed to be this big?

ah

i see then

well, thanks :3

[somber meadow]

the colliders are "Inside" which basically mean reversed, the physbones will be contained in those so they don't go inside the legs

[somber sequoia]

the radii seem large

[cursive gorge]

welp

something went wrong

[grizzled lichen]

why does it have shading errors and flipped normals it doesnt have on the actual model

and how do i fix that

[hazy flax]

is there a way to see the radial menu in unity?

i mean..to see if everything is working fine

[left gull]

gesture manager is probably your best bet

[hazy flax]

uh-

[arctic ginkgo]

you have no active gameobjects with an avatar descriptor component

[pale cloak]

how do i make the gold material/metal materials appear like their suppose to?its just blank white for me

[pale cloak]

nvm lol found it

[hazy flax]

how to merge my avatar parameters with gogoloco parameters?

[night ember]

av3

[exotic falcon]

how do i fix this?

[sacred mason]

why does my avatar do this?? it only happens in this world specifically it seems and it makes my entire avatar semi transparent

[spark walrus]

hey yeah can i ask you all something if you dont mind, unlike my other model now im trying to import on unity another model shape particulary a square one, now the problem is ios there any way i could get a prefab that spawns animations and controllers for my new avi?

based on its armature?

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what this means, it doesn't sound like it makes sense. You can always just use the default humanoid controllers and such...

[spark walrus]

as in default point wave backflip animation as well making the model(avi) move around

the map

[somber sequoia]

they're all in the SDK

[spark walrus]

for some reason they wont work on my avi tho

like the sdk is avatar 3.0

right

[somber sequoia]

does it have a humanoid rig?

[spark walrus]

how do i check

i forgot

[somber sequoia]

find the model file and look in its inspector, in the "rig" tab

[spark walrus]

dude

its a new imported model

doesnt have anything

YET

[somber sequoia]

ahhh

then you'd have to look at the model in blender or something.

but you should be able to see if it's got an armature even in Unity

[spark walrus]

it has an armature

i had to compile the model

it does have one

[somber sequoia]

well if it's humanoid, then set it up the normal way and you'll get all the humanoid locomtion and default animation controllers

[spark walrus]

it says that "head" is not a bone

but really

ok

its not a square

its a BALL

shape

that has armature

[somber sequoia]

it doesn't really matter what the mesh is for this

[spark walrus]

it says "error head not found"

[somber sequoia]

you need a head

[spark walrus]

head what

[somber sequoia]

bone?

[spark walrus]

i need to rename the head mesh?

[somber sequoia]

yeah you can't have the head mesh named Head if the head bone is also that.

[spark walrus]

dude?

its a fucking ball the ball is the head...

[somber sequoia]

I don't make the rules

[spark walrus]

how tf do i do that??

cant i just parent it to another bone

[somber sequoia]

not knowing anything about your model.... if it's just a ball I'd just weight paint it to the hips bone and call it a day

[spark walrus]

look dude this is the armature for it

[somber sequoia]

huh, not very humanoid

[spark walrus]

it supposed to be?

[somber sequoia]

seems kinda close I guess

[spark walrus]

the thing is

does it have

to be humanoid tho

[somber sequoia]

if you want to use the humanoid locomotion system, it does need to be close enough for Unity to handle it as humanoid

otherwise you'll have to make your own locomotion from scratch

[spark walrus]

which is a pain in the ass..

[somber sequoia]

sure is

[spark walrus]

isnt there a tool that automatically does it for you?

or technology is still tooo primitive

for that?

[somber sequoia]

rigify maybe

[spark walrus]

rigfy' is it for unity

[somber sequoia]

I'd just steal the armature from some other avatar

[spark walrus]

i cant

it wont work on the mesh itself...

[somber sequoia]

is it not just a ball? I thought you said it was just a ball

or is it a ball with hands 🙂

[spark walrus]

it is just a ball, with eyes well yeah but thats just viemes

no

the other meshes and shapes dont have bones

[somber sequoia]

ok then I don't see why the armature matters

[spark walrus]

because isnt the armature the thing that makes your model y know

MOVE

[somber sequoia]

well actually

[spark walrus]

?

[somber sequoia]

you can upload an avatar that's only a humanoid armature

[spark walrus]

so?

how the hell is the viewpoint gonna be with the "humanoid" armature

prob fucked up

dont you think?

[somber sequoia]

wherever you put it

[mild solar]

after sculpting an outfit to a different body base, i notice there’s extra bones for the outfit like skirt bones. is there a good tip or advice for how to preserve/import those extra bones i need while re-rigging the outfit to the different body base? i’m a little confused on how to approach it. newer to blender but i know how to re rig, just not sure how to save the extra bones

[spark walrus]

still the armature wont work with the meshes

i suppose

[somber sequoia]

I'm not really sure what you mean by that

[spark walrus]

cause y know one is an armature that has fingers and all

[somber sequoia]

since you keep saying it's just a ball

[spark walrus]

and is tall

[somber sequoia]

...

[spark walrus]

it is

[somber sequoia]

ok so I have no idea what you're doing.

I shall wish you luck 🙂

[spark walrus]

dude

again

its just a godamn ball mesh with extra meshes attached to it that dont require special intervention..

[mild solar]

[raven orbit]

lock the vertex groups for the skirt bones then join the skirt bones into the main armature

[spark walrus]

Hello, i am currently trying to make some night vision goggles, issue is, i need to make a light (to obviously see in the dark) but i need the light to only be visible through a camera, how can i do that?

[dark creek]

Hey, I just got into making vrchat avatars
I made a model, did rigging, and everything. For some reason it wont let me upload it to quest, and I would like someone to join me in a call to give me directions on what to do

[somber sequoia]

you don't really need the light to be visible if you're using a shader that works off the camera depth texture though

which is probably how I'd do that

[spark walrus]

oh, the shader has it, but i just dont know if i need to setup a camera in a special way or something like that to make it work

[somber sequoia]

nope, just the light to trigger the depth texture. I use this shader pack for various things, it's described in the readme:
https://github.com/netri/Neitri-Unity-Shaders

[spark walrus]

weird it seems like it doesnt work

[sacred mason]

bump

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure how your setup works, mostly was assuming it works similarly to this shader pack

[spark walrus]

may i show you on dms?

if you dont mind of course

[somber sequoia]

I don't really do this in DM, and I'm in the middle of things anyway

[spark walrus]

Oh thats alright

ok i imported the armature from another model

now what

how do i check if the default animations work

[spark walrus]

would it be better if i shown you the model im working with maybe

[dark creek]

Is there anyone willing to help me?

[spark walrus]

im trying to get help too dude so far

had no luck

[somber sequoia]

if there's an error message, paste it here

[dark creek]

Hey, I just got into making vrchat avatars
I made a model, did rigging, and everything. For some reason it wont let me upload it to quest, and I would like someone to join me in a call to give me directions on what to do

[somber sequoia]

I'm still not entirely sure what the problem you have is - are you just trying to get unity to recognize that armature as humanoid?

[spark walrus]

no now i did what you say import another humanoid armature in blender and then apply it to the model

i did it still the model wont work

like animations

[dark creek]

Im new to this ok

I have no idea

[somber sequoia]

I said that thinking you had a ball, not a ball with arms and such

[spark walrus]

can i show in dms whats the model abt

so to make things clear

y know

[dark creek]

I just ask for someone to direct me

[spark walrus]

i sent the dm btw

[somber sequoia]

I saw it, the image doesn't tell me much and as I said to Who? earlier, I'm also doing other things here

[spark walrus]

didnt know that? also wdym to who

[somber sequoia]

I mean @spark walrus

(sorry for the ping)

[spark walrus]

is fine, at this point idk what to do with is

it

[winter edge]

How are my particles getting to insane numbers even when I limit max particles?

[timber wharf]

stop confusing particle limit with poly count

you have x particles, youre dare to use mesh renderer that takes y triangles

thats x*y is your poly count

[sand verge]

Every time I go into play mode my self light turns off?? I'm using PCSS for liltoon btw

[spark walrus]

how to make that I cant see my own avatar?

[autumn moth]

anyone know how to change the rig type to humanoid

[somber sequoia]

inspector for your model file, rig tab

[autumn moth]

its already set to humanoid in the fbx

[somber sequoia]

but there's an error

[somber sequoia]

yep, fix that. Seems you have two armatures in the model

[spark walrus]

how to not see my own avi>?

[autumn moth]

theres like 3 but they are part of one of the assests

[somber sequoia]

Export those as separate models then

[autumn moth]

they arent models they are assests tho

hold up

[somber sequoia]

a model is a 3D thingy you make in blender. you can turn that into an "asset"

[spark walrus]

help[

[autumn moth]

wtf

when i delete the 2 armatures the clothes fuck up

[somber sequoia]

to note, I never said to delete them in Unity.

[autumn moth]

ik

was just testing

[somber sequoia]

ok

[spark walrus]

nioce

testing is fun

and smart

[somber sequoia]

probably those outfits are rigged separately, maybe you use vrcfury's armature link to connect them to your avatar?

[spark walrus]

how to hide my own model?

[autumn moth]

okay one secc

[spark walrus]

how to hide my own model?

how to

import ball model to humanoid armature blender

[somber sequoia]

first, have a close to humanoid armature. Because you are kinda humanoid. Deviating is going to make it work kinda weird, but you can get away with a bunch before it gets bad.
Then just set it up in unity like any other armature.

[somber sequoia]

especially if you don't do FBT

[autumn moth]

@somber sequoia

[spark walrus]

how to hide my own model?

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what this message is from, but you should be looking in that rig setup window again, and the console

really.

[autumn moth]

its from the armature link

[somber sequoia]

I don't use fury

[spark walrus]

so i add the humanoid armature from another model or i need to use the existing one?

[somber sequoia]

now that I've sorta seen this and it's not just a ball, I'd try using the armature it already has

[autumn moth]

idk bro😭

[spark walrus]

hows that not just a ball

[somber sequoia]

I thought we went over this

[spark walrus]

apart from that the other things attached to it dont matter..

[somber sequoia]

I still haven't seen enough of it to give you any real advice and I'm really not sure from what you keep saying

[somber sequoia]

not sure what you did but this is the same message, so...

[autumn moth]

ik

[spark walrus]

what in the world would you need to see my man?..

the shape is known

so i dont get whats not clear

[somber sequoia]

I saw 2/3 of it and nothing about why the armature you first showed has arms

if it's literally just a ball and nothing else then sure, any armature works, weight paint it to the hip bone and call it a day

but you won't get any dances because well, balls don't dance?

[spark walrus]

i mean

how to hide my own model?

i saw other balls like that

doing it

so idk

what to tell you

[somber sequoia]

if it's not literally just a ball then I really don't know what it looks like so no idea

[autumn moth]

bruh click on ur model and in the very top right click the check box

[spark walrus]

i have a video of it

[spark walrus]

no

i want others to see m avi]

but i dotn want to see it myself

[autumn moth]

idk then

[raven orbit]

use the headchop component on parts you dont want to see

[somber sequoia]

that's to show parts under your head, not to hide parts

[raven orbit]

wait oh

[spark walrus]

i odnt want to see anythign

[raven orbit]

i never used it my bad

[spark walrus]

see idk whats going on

as you can see that moves

just like a normal avi would

[somber sequoia]

I'm not doing personal help here, feel free to post stuff in public so others can help

[spark walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/anybody-home-chirp-chirp-chirp-cricket-cricket-meme-gif-2033911404004530327

others aka:nobody

[somber sequoia]

shrugs

[spark walrus]

man support here is very off quality is see damn

[somber sequoia]

maybe if we got paid for this

[spark walrus]

ah yeah paid......

[wraith geyser]

hello for some reasons in unity some normals are inverted and i can see through the model any ideas please?

[spark walrus]

how can i have a neck for this avatar, i want to headswap it

[velvet junco]

When making a on enter contact receiver you can choose a "minimum velocity", however i cant find a single place where it states what this value is based on? how fast is 1 velocity for example?

[arctic ginkgo]

m/s

[night ember]

everything unity is in meters

[austere crag]

Does anyone know why some of my favorite avatars just got replaced by "avatar currently unavailable"?

[ornate stump]

Because the avatar got deleted.

[dark creek]

Can someone please join me in a call

I need directions on what to do

people said I can come here for help, but I got nothing

[ornate stump]

Usually help is provided as question and answer in this channel. Rarely people will help via voice call.

[dark creek]

Well I can't convert an avatar to quest

I watched a tutoria

[ornate stump]

What stopped you from doing that?

[dark creek]

I don't have this menu

it does not exist

I have all the shit installed

[ornate stump]

Can you confirm by screenshot from package list in vcc?

[dark creek]

what?

[ornate stump]

How did you install the quest tools?

[dark creek]

Oh

they didn't tell me to do that?

and I thought it came with the creator companion

[ornate stump]

You have to add it manually.

[dark creek]

can you send me a link?

[ornate stump]

See in vcc manage project menu.

[dark creek]

I'm frankly so tired of constantly debugging, and it is mainly the reason why I quite trying to make avatars

[dark creek]

also, what?

[ornate stump]

Can you be more descriptive of your question?

What of what mean nothing really.

[dark creek]

Is the link or data in vrcc?

[ornate stump]

Are you using vcc?

[dark creek]

yes

i am using vrcc

[ornate stump]

Then you should see "Manage Project" button in vcc and you will see package list where you can add various package from there.

[dark creek]

oh

well

thanks

[somber sequoia]

you mean to fill in the hole? Bring it into blender and fill in the hole.

[spark walrus]

how do i do that

[somber sequoia]

do you know how to model stuff?

[spark walrus]

yes but what tool do i use for it

[somber sequoia]

depends what it looks like. I'd just fill it in layout mode then shape it until it looks how you want it

[hidden loom]

I duplicated an avatar root in my hirarchy and tried to upload the duplicate and get a verification error. When I try to upload the original (which I already have uploaded) i dont get the error. How can it be that my duplicate of the same root is getting the verification error if it's the exact same properties and BP ID as the original?

[tulip vigil]

Been having an issue with my avi that causes it’s hands to be angled oddly with the bones on the fingers and such following suit

[gentle goblet]

Hai um I was wondering where people found Halo Spartan armor assets from? I don't know if this is the right chat to ask this in but I have been looking and can't find anything ;-;

[left gull]

make a post in #1138520828556890214 though most are straight game-rips sadly

[gentle goblet]

Thank you, sorry yeah I didn't know where to ask. Also that sucks for the ripping stuff

[tardy depot]

Does anyone know any well known and well trusted avi creators who can put clothes on an avatar?? and any who know how to convert body textures?

[left gull]

if you're looking for a commissioner go to VRCTraders and find someone there (link in #1204490664637890580 ) dont accept any DMs from people in here about anyone they say is "trusted" that can assist you

[long lava]

Hey! Is it possible to snap a bone to another using an expression parameter?
I'm making a snake avatar and want to be able to toggle having the "tail" act as my hand.

[ornate stump]

You probably have to use FinalIK to make bone chain point at some location(hand).

[long lava]

aaaa,,, i never used those plugins because i'm scared that it would destroy the performances, but i'll see if i can use those :)

thanks

oh it's paid

understandable i guess

[ornate stump]

Or you could look for vrlabs "finalik stub" for replacement. But this doesn't run in unity so it's much harder to adjust.

[long lava]

Maybe I can do it using constraints?
I'll look into it

[ornate stump]

constraint is for copying individual bone transform so that doesn't works on your case.

[long lava]

ah

damn

[karmic citrus]

Is there a list of common shaders I should add to VCC somewhere? Already added Poiyomi's toon shader, but are there more?

[sharp kayak]

how can you make toggles for phys bones?

[somber sequoia]

there are lots of shaders, add what you use?

[sharp kayak]

also, does anyone know how to fix this

[karmic citrus]

Sure, but some are a lot more popular than others, and might be more likely to be used in pre-made prefabs. Is nice to just have them already if I don't know what shaders are used

[somber sequoia]

ah that's why you want to do this

[somber sequoia]

you need to explain what "this" is

[karmic citrus]

yeah, and just to play around with. Easier to have a set of tried and tested shaders than to search blindly

[sharp kayak]

well, it aint supposed to lok like that

look*

its whenever i put animations on it

i press record and it breaks like that

also, are you able to limit what direction phys bones go

[somber sequoia]

ah I see, that does look quite wrong.
re: physbones, yes, they have a whole section for limiting movement

[sacred mason]

gonna ask this again cause i didnt get an answer previously
in some worlds my avatar seems to be semi transparent, i dont think it's a world problem because ive tried several in this world and the same things happens to those avatars

[somber sequoia]

which shader? got any weird settings?

[sacred mason]

lemme check, its most likely poyomi but wont hurt to check

[sharp kayak]

okay yeah thanks that worked, now the other problem..

[somber sequoia]

did you do something to cause it? Maybe edited in blender and overwrote the FBX file?

[sharp kayak]

i overwrote the fbx in unity, would that break it?

all i did was change uvs

[somber sequoia]

was your model prefab unpacked?

[sharp kayak]

no

[somber sequoia]

hmm, and you used the same export settings as the previous time?

like scaling?

[sharp kayak]

i did, im pretty sure yeah

all i did to change anything was the uvs

[somber sequoia]

strange. Probably I'd set the rig to generic, apply, then redo the humanoid setup

[sharp kayak]

alright ill try that

no idea what most of any of this means

[somber sequoia]

most of that isn't a big deal

[sacred mason]

yep seems to be poiyomi

any of this look off?

the alpha cutoff maybe? idk

[somber sequoia]

alpha cutout doesn't apply in opaque mode

[sacred mason]

aah

so what could be the reason?

[sharp kayak]

THANKS

sigh

[sacred mason]

lmao

[sharp kayak]

forgot about that

[somber sequoia]

a lot of world lighting is really weird, so it's kinda hard to say what might be the reason

[sacred mason]

maybe its the way these things are rendered?? dunno

they're the only things sticking out

[compact parcel]

Yeah same,
bugger I really want to use the beta for the mipmap testing, but half my avatars have their jaws borked, so it's a deal breaker ;D

[buoyant thorn]

why do my avatar outlines split in the middle when walking away further away from the mirrors or camera

[thorn lance]

This happens to some pieces of some of my avatars if the world has heavy ambient occlusion, not sure how to stop it but I know that’s what causes it to happen

Happens sometimes in the popcorn palace for me, even

im not sure how to fix this, the build tab of the vrc sdk refuses to show up. i've tried closing and reopening the unity project and i've tried logging out of the sdk and re-logging in, it just stays blank

[sharp kayak]

how could i make this glasses texture a little transparent? it is an atlas texture

[hot magnet]

2 things to check:
Make sure zwrite is enabled under rendering

With your render queue being 2010 you might just be rendering entirely after the ambient occlusion runs, if you can keep all your opaque geo under 2000 it might help

[somber sequoia]

assuming not quest, paint the texture transparent via the alpha channel

[sharp kayak]

no it's for pc, i have it looking like this in the texture

a little transparent

i'm using poiyomi shaders btw

[hot magnet]

Make the transparent parts a separate material and make that render mode transparent

[somber sequoia]

so use one of the alpha blending modes (like transparent) and paint the alpha transparent

[hot magnet]

Don't make the whole thing render mode transparent

[somber sequoia]

don't make them separate, that's an extra draw call you don't need

[sharp kayak]

i should ALSO mention that everything is one mesh

wait i'm dumb i can do that in blender

[sharp kayak]

oh

[hot magnet]

You do need the draw call otherwise you need to z write a transparent material

[sharp kayak]

well i put it in the alpha channel, none of those modes work

i tried

[somber sequoia]

you need that either way though

[hot magnet]

No you don't?

[sharp kayak]

what is happening

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure why you'd need an extra draw call for just simple transparency

[hot magnet]

Transparent materials by default don't write to depth

You can enable z right but it'll do other wordy stuff

Weird*

[night ember]

Watching 2 of the smart kids getting a different answer

[somber sequoia]

haha yeah

[sharp kayak]

😭

[somber sequoia]

also yay, I'm a smart kid!

[hot magnet]

I develop the shader you're using, trust whoever you want

[sharp kayak]

who my

oh*

how tf did i get who

[night ember]

Brain be like that sometimes

[sharp kayak]

on one hand, i tried what the other person said it like, it doesnt work

which is why i came here

none of the modes work for whatever reason

[night ember]

Well is it actually transparent

[sharp kayak]

the texture is

wait

[hot magnet]

Is it actually imported as transparent?

Like it's using an rgba texture format

[night ember]

And a png

[somber sequoia]

checkbox in the inspector for the texture, "alpha is transparency"

[sharp kayak]

its checked

[hot magnet]

Make sure the bottom of the texture preview says something like DXT5 or BC7

Where it has the size and all that stuff

[sharp kayak]

uhh

wheres that

im slow

[hot magnet]

when you click on the texture isn't there a little preview?

[hot magnet]

oh you have it minimized, drag those two horizontal bars up from the bottom

[sharp kayak]

oh okay there it is

[night ember]

That atlas confuses me

[sharp kayak]

it's how it was made 😭

some of the textures are repeating

[thorn lance]

I’ve now tried reimporting as well as checking to make sure all textures have mipmaps enabled.. I dont know what to do

[hot magnet]

I hope you don't feel like I simply shot you down. This shit is confusing. The advice you gave is better suited when you already have lots of materials and you can shift textures and UVs and stuff around instead of simply piling on more materials. In this instance there's no harm going from 1 to 2, which will help effects work as intended. zWrite looks like a good solution until you find the unintended artifacts it can cause.

The Built-In Rendering Pipeline is pretty complex, I'd encourage you to learn more about its behavior if you want to better understand why I say the things I say
https://docs.unity3d.com/2022.3/Documentation/Manual/built-in-render-pipeline.html

[versed swallow]

how do i fix this?

[sharp kayak]

is anything wrong with it?

[somber sequoia]

I know when to defer to the experts.

[hot magnet]

doesn't look like it

can you show what your shader set up looks like

[sharp kayak]

looks like this

im using the same texture for the alpha map

[hot magnet]

take it out

just highlight it and press delete

also please don't use transclipping 😭

that's another hack

[sharp kayak]

okay, what should i use?

[hot magnet]

Ideally the suggestion I had before where the glasses are on a seperate transparent material

well

just the lenses

[sharp kayak]

yeah

[hot magnet]

if you've been messing with the Alpha Options settings you can reset them by clicking the three dots on the section header

and most values you can right click -> reset

[sharp kayak]

okay i made a new material slot, so should i just use standard instead of poiyomi?

[hot magnet]

you can keep using poiyomi

if you like standard better for some reason I don't see why it wouldn't work, it's not as flexible though

[sharp kayak]

poiyomi works fine, transparent actually works now

thank you very much!

[versed swallow]

please help cus i cant upload shit

[thorn lance]

Me either, my build tab is just blank, not even the option to add a name or anything

But have you tried clicking the “the information provided above is accurate….” Check box?

[thorn lance]

Damn, I’m not sure, I’m trying to get help for a similar problem

This is all my build tab shows

[junior void]

try a relog

[versed swallow]

how do u relog?

[thorn lance]

Relogging in? I’ve tried that
I tried reopening the unity project, checking mipmaps for all textures, relogging in, reimporting, nothing is fixing it

[junior void]

Anything in console?

[hot magnet]

#avatar-help message

[thorn lance]

Not sure what to change for those, never been great at understanding the errors

[junior void]

You get this exact ones every time you reopen the project?

[thorn lance]

Reopening rn

this is all thats there on reopen

But if i try to open the build tab it adds more errors

[junior void]

Yea, those are literally just telling you that something aint there

[night ember]

Do you have a vrcsdk folder in your assets folder?

[junior void]

I never achieved null reference on the sdk before lol

[night ember]

Usually happens when you imported the sdk twice

Which usually pops upa vrcsdk folder in assets

[thorn lance]

Oh maybe the avatar I’m uploading had it included on import

[junior void]

makes sense

[thorn lance]

Ugh

[junior void]

any creator should be smart enough not to do that

[night ember]

Which its not meant to be there

[thorn lance]

Youd think so

New project here i come, thanks guys

[stark lava]

How do I fix this? I can't use the model I made because a security check fail? Idek how to fix it.

[junior void]

730 physbone transforms what the...

164 physbone scripts

Are you mad xD

[stark lava]

She doesn't have that many physbones? She barley has much hair-

I'll try to remove some

[junior void]

Check if you have doubles by accident

Happened to me a few times when copying stuff from a to b, suddenly the 500 gizmos lagged my unity lmao

[sacred mason]

zwrite is on, i try setting render queue to 1999 and it just switches back to 2000

[modern scaffold]

how do i do visemes for an avatar which has an image for a mouth?

tried using blendshapes but

[balmy barn]

uv offset a texture (pc can use decals)

[modern scaffold]

i have no idea how to do this 💔

[arctic ginkgo]

you can use blendshapes – i typically do – but whatever method you use, set the lip sync type to "viseme parameter only" and then animate using the int "Viseme" parameter. If you want an instant transition, either use a 1D blendtree (and have Viseme set as a float) or create an int toggle with transition duration set to 0

[modern scaffold]

for the parameter one, how does that work? do i need to make an animation for every viseme?

[forest apex]

Got the Gewehr 41 sig xm7 but the sound for all noises except shooting won't play, anyone got any ideas on how I installed it wrong

[frank spruce]

Anyone know how to flip this effect to be sideways?

[sacred mason]

@hot magnet i think this works

[hot magnet]

you shouldn't need to set it that low, there's something else going on

[sacred mason]

tried it in game and its still doing the funny
so

lmao

any ideas?

[hot magnet]

sacred on the poiyomi discord might know

[true breach]

not sure if i'm doing this right, i have a parameter driver on this state which sets a bool randomly to true or false so i can play an animation, but if the chance is anything other than 100%, it always returns false

[night ember]

It only activates when entering the animation

Youd need both if false and if true animations that it switches in and out of

[elfin harbor]

I don't know why but this keeps on happening in vrc, now when I go into my avatar it's there (my head) then after a few minutes disappears, not this is only on my camera, face mirror, but main mirrors and placeable personal mirror is fine can anyone help?

[limpid sphinx]

sorry if this question is like omega basic but I know almost nothing about textures and about adding on to meshes instead of deforming, how do I fix this weird hole at her neck?

I worked on this model for so many hours and somehow never noticed it

[rigid cave]

Hey :) can someone help me with this error? I got it out of nowhere.. I didn't change anything on my avatar, basically edited a texture and wanted to update her. Everytime the SDK tries to upload the avatar (after compiling/bundling) it stops at 4% and then I get this error:

I have tried it mutiple times with fresh unity projects, different SDK/SPS/VRCFury versions
It's not the blueprint as well

still getting the same

VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi.UploadFile (System.String filename, System.String fileId, System.String friendlyFileName, System.Action`2[T1,T2] onProgress, System.Threading.CancellationToken cancellationToken) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/API/VRCApi.cs:958)
VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi.CreateNewAvatar (System.String id, VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar data, System.String pathToBundle, System.String pathToImage, System.Action`2[T1,T2] onProgress, System.Threading.CancellationToken cancellationToken) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/API/VRCApi.cs:664)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.BuildAndUpload (UnityEngine.GameObject target, VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar avatar, System.String thumbnailPath, System.Threading.CancellationToken cancellationToken) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2524)
Rethrow as UploadException: Failed to upload file
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.BuildAndUpload (UnityEngine.GameObject target, VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar avatar, System.String thumbnailPath, System.Threading.CancellationToken cancellationToken) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2566)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder+<>c__DisplayClass104_0.<CreateBuildGUI>b__4 () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2015)
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncMethodBuilderCore+<>c.<ThrowAsync>b__7_0 (System.Object state) (at <27124aa0e30a41659b903b822b959bc7>:0)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext+WorkRequest.Invoke () (at <cb81df0c49c643b1a04d9fc6ccca2433>:0)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext.Exec () (at <cb81df0c49c643b1a04d9fc6ccca2433>:0)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext.ExecuteTasks () (at <cb81df0c49c643b1a04d9fc6ccca2433>:0)```

[winter edge]

In blender if I bought an outfit off booth and only use the shoes.

Is there an easy way I believe the term is called "bake" that texture so that I'm not including all the other pieces of the outfit when I only want the shoes?

[vagrant parcel]

how do I fix this in blender? Everything i've tried online hasnt worked

[inland seal]

Is there a way on Standard-Lite to disable all shadows on my model? because I don't want any shadows, else my avatar will be too dark

[grizzled lichen]

can i ask this again i really wanna get this fixed and i dont know what im supposed to do
why does he look like this in unity

[vagrant parcel]

have you checked the face orientation in blender? I think the normals might be flipped

[grizzled lichen]

i'll check

i should turn the outline off first actually

cuz the outline is all flipped

yeah this all looks right the hat shouldnt be flipped

[arctic ginkgo]

what i find works best is having a transition that just has exit time set to 1 and no conditions for both transitions. Then in the "random" animation state have a blendtree with animations that turn off the blinking ranging from your min time you want to wait and max time at thresholds 0 and 1 respectively. Instead of using a bool to randomize the blinking, use a float, then this float will be used as the parameter for the blendtree.

[arctic ginkgo]

did you apply all transforms on it?

[true breach]

i never figured out what the issue was but ended up doing it another way, that way ended up working better

[grizzled lichen]

wdym?

[arctic ginkgo]

the issue was that it only randomizes once when it's transitioned to

so if it randomizes to 1 it will transition to blink and back, allowing it to randomize again. If it doesn't randomize to 1 then it never transitions and never gets randomized again

[arctic ginkgo]

object>apply>all transforms

[grizzled lichen]

uh

[i was able to fix this]

hopefully this makes it not flipped in game though

[sudden merlin]

Avatar makers, anyone have a good way to test cutout mirrors in-project? Tryna solve some transparency issues

[night ember]

pretty sure you can just import a mirror

[sudden merlin]

I think the mirror dependencies are in the world sdk only

like it needs this script

I guess it doesnt hurt to make a separate world project to test

[grizzled lichen]

it worked, but the shading on the arms is still weird is there a way i can fix that in unity or do i gotta do an edit to the model in blender to fix that

[arctic ginkgo]

it may be your export or import settings. If you don't have custom normals try setting your blendshape normals to "calculate" in unity

[wooden grove]

trying to put hair onto my model, but the hair still wont attach to the head. and when I fix the model, it attaches the hair root bone to the hips or spine. how to i attach it to the head bone?

[grizzled lichen]

also is there a way to limit how far the eye can turn?

wait nevermind i think i got it

[raven orbit]

when setting up the eye movement in the avatar descriptor you set the limits that way, and there's an option to unlink them

[inland seal]

I still need help with this

[half ice]

can any one please tell me whay if i export fbx that i changed (adding shoes) from blender to unity my avatar look like this . and i cant see the shoes that i added in the hierarchy

[agile reef]

What is happening to my models arms- They're perfectly fine in blender and when I put it in unity, they just break. I applied the rig to the model in unity- but before that the arms still looked messed up so thats not the problem

[elfin harbor]

Could someone please help me with this issue.

[frank spruce]

Anyone know how to flip this effect to be sideways?

[arctic ginkgo]

having a very strange issue.. my avatar seems to be large?

or rather i'm tiny..

the avatar is the correct size

but my ipd is super small on the avatar

so like my playspace floor is at the neck of the avatar

and my avatar's hand is like 10x the size of my irl face

oh weird it's totally normal if i switch my ipd to be set by height rather than armspan..

i have a custom IK layer but the only thing i changed in the pose was the orientation of the feet, and the issue persists even if i remove the IK layer

oh and if i reset the height of the avatar it fixes the issue

it might be because of constraint setup i have..

i'm going to try turning off write defaults on the animations

okay i think that fixed it

that's what i get for trying to hide all but one bone on an avatar rather than using multiple skinned meshes

[lunar egret]

im trying to add a prefab of an outfit that is made for my booth avater, but the shoes are heels, which make the feet clip through the top. how can i make it so when i toggle the outfit on, the blendshape of the heel on the body matches with the one on the shoes ?

[agile reef]

If the body has a blendshape for heeled feet, you can create the toggle for the outfit and simply record the blendshape turning on with the outfit

[limpid sphinx]

So I made an error when I made my Vroid and because of it the back of her neck is missing. I'm still new-ish to blender so I figured the easiest way would just be to fix the issue in Vroid, reimport and then copy the changes I made over, but I've been struggling with this. I made some changes to her face and head mesh that I dont wanna re-sculpt but simply copying the body over and setting the armature as parent doesnt seem to work even though all the vertex groups are still there and named the same

Is there an easier way to do this? am I being profoundly silly? pls help

[sleek ocean]

if i deleted an avi in unity project after uploading does the avi still stay in vrc

'\

?

[agile reef]

yes

[sleek ocean]

thank god

i got scared

im trying to add gogo to the pc ver

[somber sequoia]

if it's from vroid it's probably got mesh and is just transparent. so paint that part on the textures.

[sleek ocean]

and the quest ver was in there

[limpid sphinx]

The mesh of that part is just gone, I think I toggled some option that deletes transparent meshes on export on vroid

It was because the tutorial I watched recommended erasing the parts of the body texture that are hidden under the clothing for better performance, but I didnt notice that bit of neck missing until I spent many hours tweaking the model

[agile reef]

Bumping this

[somber sequoia]

oh, then you'll have to edit the mesh and make new faces

[limpid sphinx]

You think that will be easier than copying over the fixed mesh from vroid somehow? I have little experience in actually extending/adding on to the mesh, I've just been sculpting on whats already there

[arctic ginkgo]

trying to adjust knee rotation on a model by adjusting the ik pose and it's only adjusting the foot rotation, not the direction the knees bend, does anyone know why this might be?

[flint rose]

what is the problem you're trying to fix?

like, why are you trying to adjust the knee rotation?

[arctic ginkgo]

the knees bend outwards really far, I know this can be fixed by straightening the legs in blender but I'd prefer not to, the character is stanced that way intentionally

[flint rose]

what does the character look like?

[flint rose]

I see. do you intend on using this with full body tracking? if so, the stance might be a bit of an issue

[arctic ginkgo]

no not really, although it will be a public avatar

[grizzled lichen]

is there any way to add mirroring to the rig for animation in unity?

[arctic ginkgo]

although all i'm trying to do is adjust the ik for the knees which won't matter if you have fbt

[arctic ginkgo]

you can select the mirror checkmark on an animation, animation state, or motion field in a blendtree

it should look like a man icon with a dotted line down the center

[arctic ginkgo]

okay i figured it out i needed to adjust the upper leg twist in-out towards the direction i need the knees to bend in, then twist the lower leg to put the feet back in the correct place

[somber sequoia]

I'd just remodel it, but I do know blender pretty well

[glossy wharf]

could somebody upload a Vrchat avatar for my friend?

[normal thunder]

Hello need help with animation

I have a bracelet I have on my avatar, I want it to shrink when arm's armor is on and to expend once it's off

I've done the animation but when I toggle the bracelet it's shrinking and expending infinitely every millisecond

[strange dirge]

Hey I just re-exported my FBX from blender, and imported into unity (like I've done hundreds of times as I work on it)
but for some reason this time the material slots on the mesh shuffled????? and I have no idea why????
(there is only one mesh, I haven't touched the material slots in blender, only work I've done since my last import has been some shape key edits, bone and weight paint updates)

all of the things in the redbox shuffled, and I had to reset each one
its not a huge problem, but it does mean all my VRCFury that referenced those material slots also need to be updated, and I'd like to avoid this happening in the future

[arctic ginkgo]

yeah it's blender being blender

[normal thunder]

does anyone have an idea how I could fix my problem ?

[arctic ginkgo]

either your animation to expand has multiple frames and is cycling between them or you messed up your conditions on your transitions

most likely

[normal thunder]

Hm maybe, I didn't checked the transition

[grizzled lichen]

why is the lip sync thing stuck

[sly lodge]

I think that happend to me too, I restarted the editor, and it worked after that

[grizzled lichen]

i restarted it and its still doing that [i removed the avatar descriptor and replaced it and now its working]

[flint rose]

go to edit mode, select everything, do Mesh > Sort Elements > Material, and in the bottom left context box, change it to Faces

then re-export

Unity calculates the material slot order based on the the order of stuff in the mesh

[strange dirge]

that fixed it, thanks

[normal thunder]

That's my problem

[flint rose]

can you screenshot how you're shrinking the bracelet? i.e animations, logic involved, etc

[normal thunder]

OFF Animation

[flint rose]

so the animation has two keyframes, and those are the values for those sets of keyframes?

the scale is different between the two

[normal thunder]

So you mean than on the first and last key of the OFF the scale should be the same and so for the ON

[flint rose]

yes, otherwise the animation will just loop over the two keyframes and scale it up and down

[normal thunder]

Oh ok I think I understand

So I need to put one of the scale up there on both start and end

[flint rose]

you should also disable Loop Time on the animations

yes

[normal thunder]

okok thx

[inland tree]

are there any packages that have Head pat, noseboop, ass slap contacts ?

[somber sequoia]

ooh, I didn't know this. usually I have my mesh parts all split up and so I join them in a specific order so I get the materials in the order I expect, but this is neat

[normal thunder]

@flint rose

It's fixed

thx

Now I need to do smtg cause I have 257/256 bits and I already have removed lot of stuff

idk what to do

[agile reef]

I'm still looking for help with this-

[inland seal]

How to make so your avatar won't have any shadows on it???

For pc and quest

[somber sequoia]

use a shader that doesn't take word lighting into account

[flint rose]

first, click on your FBX, go to the Rig tab, click Configure, then in the bottom right click Pose > Reset Pose, then Pose > Enforce T Pose, then Apply and Done.

if it's still weird in the scene view, you may need to reset the pose using Pumkin's as well

[inland seal]

Wich is?

There's like 12 of them

[flint rose]

you can use the VRChat Toon Lit shader

[inland seal]

Toon lit?

Okay

[flint rose]

yes, it comes with the SDK.

[inland seal]

Thx

[agile reef]

The enforce Tpose didn't work, how do I use pumpkins to fix it?

[flint rose]

firstly, can you screenshot your hierarchy?

want to check if your avatar is unpacked (bad) or not.

[agile reef]

my avatar is unpacked- I was told in the past to unpack it after importing.

[flint rose]

that is very poor advice, it prevents you from easily updating things like rig changes down the road.

I recommend never unpacking models (like the raw FBXs).

[agile reef]

got it- should I re export and bring a new fbx in? I've done that a couple times though

[flint rose]

in this case, I would recommend dragging a fresh copy of the FBX into your hierarchy, and using Pumkin's tools to copy all components from the unpacked one to the new one (assuming there are things to copy)

you should find that the new FBX should have correct looking arms

[agile reef]

alright, I will try this

[agile reef]

and to double check with you- it is the reset button on the bottom here correct?

[flint rose]

no, go to Tools > Pumkin > Avatar Tools, and use the Reset Pose option

[flint rose]

like this

set those boxes like that and click Reset Pose

[agile reef]

The avatar itself did move slightly but the arms are still the same unfortunately

[flint rose]

hm, does it look correct in the rig config?

if not, we need to fix that first

[agile reef]

The rig looks fine but the arms on the body are weird like- from the get go when I first import it. it's almost like, somehow something messes up in the export process maybe?

[flint rose]

I'm wondering if the pose in blender is not applied as the rest pose

[flint rose]

do you have the CATS plugin installed in blender?

[agile reef]

yes

[flint rose]

if so, go to Pose mode, and use "Apply pose as rest pose"

I recommend making a backup before doing that

just because you won't be able to easily revert it, if for whatever reason you ever need the original, weirdly posed version

[agile reef]

gotcha, I will try this

[agile reef]

alrighty so, it's definitely better than it was, but I think it still looks off from blender or something- here is the before and after- in unity The before being on top and what its supposed to be in blender

[flint rose]

it could be because parts of the arm are weighed to more than 4 bones

Unity caps it at 4, blender doesn't

in blender, select your whole mesh in edit mode, go to Weight painting mode, do Weights > Limit Total, and in the box in the bottom left, change it to Deform pose bones

and re-export

[agile reef]

That's interesting- I never knew that. Would that mean this base is not a good one to use in the future if it is going to have these problems or is it something that I did?

( in the case that this fixes it )

[flint rose]

I don't really know what is going on 100% with this base, but it's something that is easy for some people to overlook. I don't really see why that part of the arm would be affected by more than 4 bones, but sometimes people accidentally weigh things to things they shouldn't be affected by

[agile reef]

I see, the arms did not change when I did the limit total unfortunately

the arm bones in blender look like this- I guess has an " Elbow Twist " bone, could this be an issue?

[flint rose]

maybe, but the mere fact of the bone existing shouldn't cause issues. I also use corrective bones like elbows on my avatar.

when you go to the rig config in Unity, and you just do Reset Pose, does it look correct?

like, without enforcing T Pose

[snow elm]

jesus what a mess

[half ice]

can any one please tell me whay if i export fbx that i changed (adding shoes) from blender to unity my avatar look like this . and i cant see the shoes that i added in the hierarchy

[snow elm]

what does your armature hierarchy look like?

[agile reef]

So, when I dont enforce tpose these red words pop up, when I hit to enforce the tpose everything is all green.
either way the avatar doesn't seem to move nor does the arms change- and i'm starting to thing I might be being a little picky with this- I can definitely tell its off for some reason but it's a lot better than before so I think I can deal with it being a little off-putting lol

[half ice]

evrything is there but not the shoes that i added

[flint rose]

I'm wondering if it's a blendshape being activated

[half ice]

and whay dose look like that ?

[snow elm]

trying to figure it out, make sure to redo the rigging on the import settings

[flint rose]

it looks like the avatar in the hierarchy is a prefab, which could also mean it's been previously unpacked and turned into a prefab. if that's the case, the link to the original FBX is fucked and you cannot add meshes to it

what you will have to do is drag in the FBX into the hierarchy again, and use Pumkin's to copy everything from the old model to the new one

and this time, do not unpack the FBX.

[flint rose]

^ this is precisely why I warned against unpacking avatars lol

[half ice]

okk thanks

[agile reef]

The only active blendshape I have for the body is the custom edit I made, but it doesnt affect the arms at all, it's only the lower body. and haha I see now- lol I will keep mine packed

[half ice]

but its not prefab.. let me show you the hierarchy

one sec

[half ice]

i just changed the fbx of the avatar in blender

added a clothing

[flint rose]

generally, if you are not the one who exported the original FBX, don't override it. this is because if it was exported from a different program, or export settings are different, you risk breaking the model in unity

[somber meadow]

the avatar isn't a packed FBX prefab, it won't adjust to the FBX being modified easily

[flint rose]

the first time, you should always export as a new FBX, with your own export settings, and use Pumkin's to copy things over

[agile reef]

I took screen shots and I really put them side by side- this is the different between them at close up

[flint rose]

and only from then on, you can override your own version of it

[half ice]

okkk thanks

[flint rose]

hmmm, can you go to the modifiers tab in blender, and see if "Preserve volume" is enabled on the armature modifier? it should not be

[agile reef]

it is not enabled

[flint rose]

okay, so that's fine

[flint rose]

could you try setting the rig type to None, click Apply, then set it back to Humanoid, click Apply, and check the rig config again?

to fully reset the rig config

[agile reef]

yes I shall try this

[lyric bluff]

hello im quite new to vrchat, im searching avatars and some appear like this, why is that?

[snow elm]

gone

[worn kiln]

or...security check failed kind.

[lyric bluff]

ah okay ty

[agile reef]

unfortunately no change still- I'm going to re-import the body to see if it was originally like that or if along the lines i messed up something.
nope- just realized it's only weird in unity so.... nevermind- LMAO

[snow elm]

can you send a front view of the bones on the arms in blender?

[agile reef]

( I think is is what you meant )

[snow elm]

yup

[somber meadow]

is this avatar using twist bones

what are these bones specifically?

[snow elm]

yeah those are

[pallid jolt]

Just had an avatar fail securiby checks, though im not sure why? Its a pretty small avatar and its not like a crasher or anything? I did get some shader errors so maybe thats why? though im not sure how to fix it.

[agile reef]

Yes these are twist bones "Elbow_Twist_R and Elbow_Twist_L"

[somber meadow]

then it's most likely a broken twist bone setup in Unity, that's what it looks like in your OG screenshot

[somber meadow]

what Unity version, SDK version, and what does the builder tab of the SDK look like

[agile reef]

ok- can I just delete these bones and it will fix?

[somber meadow]

more so just remove the constraints responsible for the twist bones in Unity

[snow elm]

I dont think constraints apply in the armature rigging import window

[agile reef]

sorry- I am not sure I know where to find constraints in unity? I am down to try anything for a fix

[pallid jolt]

2022.3.22, most recent sdk

[snow elm]

small avatar?

on what planet?

[agile reef]

" Its a pretty small avatar and its not like a crasher or anything? " why you lying x'D

[pallid jolt]

i thought it was small 😕

[somber meadow]

security checks wise, it could be the particles

does this avatar use vrcfury or modular avatar?

[snow elm]

very poor is a good hint that your avatar is not small

[pallid jolt]

ok thats not necessarily what i meant by small but either way thank you

[somber meadow]

find the twist bones in Unity and look if there's constraints on them in the inspector

[grand scaffold]

560k tris is more than a lot of worlds

[agile reef]

this is what they look like, nothing is on the bones

[somber sequoia]

twist bones are great

[somber meadow]

if they're setup properly, yeah they look good

[snow elm]

I have a feeling that the twist bones dont have anything to do with it

[somber meadow]

yeah you're right, I was looking at the first screenshot they posted

is this some sort of blendshape??

or is the pose even applied in blender

[snow elm]

yeah the pose apply was already suggested

oh I think I know the issue

might be your shoulders

[agile reef]

The pose apply definitely helped the arms from its original look- but it is not fully 100% normal

[snow elm]

try straightening them out in edit mode

[agile reef]

okay, and then I set as rest pose?

[snow elm]

no do it in edit mode so your mesh isnt deformed

[agile reef]

or no edit mode not pose mode- sorry

[agile reef]

safe to say- doing that just so happened to make everything SIGNIFICANTLY worse. . . so i reverted that change LMAO

[snow elm]

how did you straighten them?

[agile reef]

I straightened the bones as shown

[snow elm]

what base is this?

[agile reef]

I am using the Fantasy base

I can find you a link one moment
||https://zinpia.sellfy.store/p/vrbase-fantasy/||

[snow elm]

ok ill have a look at it

ok odd the base seems completely fine when I import it

[queen trail]

does anyone know how to fix the crocked foot issue

[agile reef]

could i have accidentally at some point hit the set as rest pose when I was checking for clipping at some point and just- ruined it? lmao

[snow elm]

im not sure tbh maybe

[agile reef]

I would hate to have to delete this body and just re import it because that means I'd just have to re weight paint everything and re sculpt the body- I really don't want to do that 😿

[snow elm]

it be like that sometimes

[agile reef]

is that unfortunately my only option as this point?

[snow elm]

why the re weight painting tho?

[agile reef]

well, the sculpt I did I cant really duplicate it exactly so I will very likely have to resculpt and do everything again after I attempt to copy my sculpt

[snow elm]

alright gl

[agile reef]

thank you. I will need it- thank you everyone who did ya best to help salvage my mistakes

[limpid sphinx]

Still trying to turn my vroid into an avi, this one strand of hair refuses to move with the rest of it, how do I fix this?

[agile reef]

check your hair bones it's attached to and make sure it's weight painted properly

[spark walrus]

Model has another layer called overlay? I’m trying to make a substance painter file for it but when I split it, it sticks together…

[queen trail]

i keep getting these errors ONLY on the jackal seat system does anyone know how te fix this issue and then it would abort the upload

[cold sandal]

Hello, i recently ran into an issue i cannot seem to fix myself, model looks fine in unity and blender, but ingame i can physically see the "triangles" or polygons my skin is made up off, anyone have any idea how to fix this ?

[somber meadow]

can you screenshot what you're seeing, and are you on the open beta?

[somber meadow]

in the model's import settings, go into the rig tab, and click configure, assign the jaw bone if there is one. Seems this asset requires it

[cold sandal]

due to it being bare skin only, i cannot provide a picture in the discord due to nsfw reasons, if picture is needed DM me

[flint rose]

all 3d models are made up of triangles. if you look closely enough, you will see jagged edges. from most reasonable distances, it should not be an issue

[cold sandal]

i understand that, but im not talking about edges, i can legit see all triangles

like almost like its a tattoo covering my entire body

this wasnt an issue untill recently, and i don't know what i changed

[flint rose]

can you click on the FBX for your avatar, and screenshot the import settings?

specifically the Model tab

[flint rose]

I would recommend setting Normals to Import, instead of Calculate

[cold sandal]

ill give it a try and upload, will update in minutes

[flint rose]

if you can also screenshot somewhere that shows what you mean, cropping or censoring anything needed, that would help.

[cold sandal]

ill just put a spoiler filter on it and remove the post after you see it

^

[flint rose]

I see, ok

and this is on PC or on quest?

[cold sandal]

PC, changing the normal upload didnt change it

[grizzled lichen]

the material is completely blank on the particles, though in unity it appears fine

[flint rose]

ok, which shader?

[cold sandal]

Poyomi 8.1

[flint rose]

ok. which specific variant of the shader is it using? Poiyomi Toon, Poiyomi Toon Outlines, etc

[cold sandal]

outlines

here

[flint rose]

ok, what if you set it to the regular Poiyomi Toon shader, not the outline one

[cold sandal]

worth a try

issue persists

so that eliminates shader issues, which is good

[fathom current]

can anyone help explain why my model looks like this in unity

[somber meadow]

Can't really tell what the issue is with the screenshot being that small, is it the seam on the right?

[fathom current]

sorry

its got this weird glowing texture that diffrent

[somber meadow]

what does your material look like

[fathom current]

This is what I had it as before

i just dont know what happened

it might be the normal map for quest is messed up i think

[flint rose]

this looks like a normal map not behaving correctly

[fathom current]

yeah im going to see if it works on pc version

[flint rose]

can you screenshot what your normal map texture looks like, and how it's used in the material

[cold sandal]

would you have any other suggestions, sacred?

[flint rose]

what GPU are you using?

[cold sandal]

4090

[flint rose]

mkay, rules out AMD issues

[cold sandal]

why, does AMD have issues with that ?

[flint rose]

AMD GPUs have certain issues with some shaders

some functions can behave weirdly

[cold sandal]

interesting

[flint rose]

and have less safety

functions like atan2 can sometimes cause division by 0 issues and it causes black splotches

[cold sandal]

highly doubt that would be the issue regardless, because its only affecting the body, and not the head, whilst they use the same shader

[fathom current]

this is the normal map

[flint rose]

that is absolutely not a valid normal map

so I wouldn't use it as one

that looks like a denim detail texture

[fathom current]

i see

do you know any good fabric normal maps

[flint rose]

anyways, I have a few theories:

• it's still a shader issue, something else besides outlines
• for whatever reason, every triangle of your mesh is separated (I've seen that before)
• post processing AO being really weird

[flint rose]

I use these a lot. I highly recommend also using the detail albedo, not just the normals

put them both at 256 size

[cold sandal]

thank you! ill tinker around with these ideas, if i can't figure it out by tomorrow ill psot again

[brisk dagger]

Can anybody help me make my first avatar?

[fathom current]

thanks

[brisk dagger]

Can anybody help me make my first avatar?

[raven orbit]

https://ptb.discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495

[pliant leaf]

Does anyone know why when I upload an on unity avatar it says it uploads, but when I load on to vrchat it says the avatar is either loading or not showing up at all (it shows on the website that’s it is uploaded) I don’t know what it keeps doing that and I’ve tried everything. If anyone knows I would appreciate the feedback.

[somber meadow]

What Unity version are you using to upload

[pliant leaf]

I'm using 2022.3.5 which is the one that it recommended. Where would I be able to download the newest one?

[somber meadow]

should be using 2022.3.22, but that version should load

https://creators.vrchat.com/sdk/upgrade/current-unity-version

but it might be SDK issues on that non recommended version

[pliant leaf]

Someone said that it might be the SDK but im using the newest version. I will try using this version of unity and see if it makes a difference. Thank you for letting me know this

[dark jay]

how do i fix the bending issue with thec chest/hip area

[steady linden]

I don’t make avatars, but I’ve been using one called “bee Karin” the past couple days and have loved it! However, whenever I’m on PC I keep running into an issue where one of the toggleable particle effects (a bunch of bees swarming me) is constantly forced on for quest players

This isn’t a problem when the person using the avatar is on quest, it’s just when the user is on pc and the people around them are on quest

I was wondering if somebody maybe had a fix for this? I don’t own the avatar personally so I’m not even sure what all I could personally do abt it-

I’ve tried toggling the option on and off on pc and it makes no difference for the players on quest

[sick snow]

Please @ me if you know of a solution.
I have some seats on my avatar set to a toggle, and also toggle an object in tow as well. But sometimes, the seats are on despite being off in my menus and the object tied to the seats not being on. Does anyone know of a fix to this? I don't want strangers tethered to me.

[wind shuttle]

Does the gesture off button in the menus not turn off face expressions anymore? @ me if you know so i see it

[vale oyster]

how do i invert a toggle i have a Boolean parameter on a prop and when its on in menu prop is disabled but off prop is active I'm hoping to do the inverse so its as expected

[grizzled smelt]

My avatars feet are doing this in game but look fine in unity, does anyone know why its doing this?

[somber meadow]

how is the toggle made? is it with a tool, or manually made in the animator

[dark jay]

Just in case imma show the issue the chest is low on this model feels like theres a hip issue or something

My other model does not have that issue

Can anyone give me tips

[sharp kayak]

having a weird problem, im getting these errors, yet everything is mapped

[somber meadow]

Try this trick, sometimes the SDK just randomly doesn't refresh the rig without loading another avatar descriptor being in the mix

[sharp kayak]

still doing it

everythings there

[somber meadow]

can you show the other tabs (head, and hands)

[somber meadow]

what does your avatar look like in the hierarchy, and is there an animator component?

[zenith harbor]

anyone knoww how to fix this error

[timber delta]

HELP!! i have leg bones on my avatar so it would detect as humanoid, everything works fine but now it think the entire body is facing backwards and makes the legs backwards, the tail and such is the backside and the arms are clapping in the incorrect position and im super confused as to why it thinks the front is the back......

[zenith harbor]

first time ive gotten it on anything

[iron kindle]

#1307985057528418305 message Gonna try and share it here too as well as avatar Discussion, I need help doing some changes after someone I commissioned did some bare bones work and asked for more to add further details we already agreed on so I am stuck doing it myself and its causing me to go a tad mad, any help is apreciated

[honest dune]

omfg i came here with the EXACT SAME issue WTH

[vagrant parcel]

I just downloaded this helmet model off of sketchfab, is there a way I could get rid of the part in between the eyes?

[honest dune]

i mean, show us the verts?

[flint rose]

this spine is very crooked. you should try to have your spine be as straight as possible

[vagrant parcel]

idk if this is what you meant lol

[honest dune]

does it do the Axis by the rotation of the Spine ???

[flint rose]

aim for something like this. this picture doesn't have an upperchest bone, but if you have one, that's good

would also recommend looking at how the legs should be set up

straight from the front, slightly bent from the side.

[honest dune]

Step one: axis mirror (ion your case y axis)

[vagrant parcel]

ok done

[honest dune]

press 2 To activate the Knife Tool to draw your desired Shape

sould look smth linke this

after that select all the verts you want to remove, press x and select "vertecies"

[honest dune]

Still Broken with a straight Spine

[flint rose]

could you screenshot what your rig looks like in blender?

and maybe do something more like this with the spine, it's a little bit less straight, so you might have a little bit of give with the IK, but it should deform better