avatar-help

[brave viper]

don't be afraid to mess up

[night ember]

you already have shoes that are made for the model so you dont even need to edit them
just make sure the bones are named the same (which is very likely since you are using armature link)
then just reparent the shoes to the avatar's armature and boom they are now on the avatar when you export

[inland seal]

So I just have to put shoes in the avatar leg?

oe?

or*

[night ember]

assuming the bones are already named the same

[inland seal]

yes

All of them

[night ember]

just click the shoes mesh then ctrl click the armature of the avatar and ctrl+p

then delete the shoe armature since you dont need it anymore

also when parenting select with empty groups since you already have them

[night ember]

Im talking about blender

[inland seal]

oh

I will try

[inland seal]

It does nothing

A

[night ember]

you dont parent bones

[inland seal]

But you said to select Armature

[night ember]

I said select the shoes mesh then ctrl select the armature so both are selected then ctrl+p

[inland seal]

?

like this

[night ember]

thats the armature of the shoes not the avatar

[inland seal]

Oh

You want me to select my Avatars Armature?

[night ember]

yes?

[inland seal]

This?

like that?

@night ember ?

[night ember]

the shoes mesh and then the armature of the avatar

[inland seal]

oh

okie

I click Ctrl +p and nothing is happening..

[junior void]

your mouse needs to be in the scene

[inland seal]

Im doing it

[junior void]

blender controls are by window

[inland seal]

Nothing

Or Im dumb

[night ember]

I keep saying to select the mesh object in the hierarchy for the shoes and then selecting the armature of the avatar and parent it

[inland seal]

I did that?

[night ember]

are you in edit mode or something

[inland seal]

yes?

I shouldnt?

[junior void]

Yea dont be

This is what happens when you crop 90% of the img

[inland seal]

But you said to be in edit 😭

[night ember]

you cant edit anything you didnt enter edit mode with

[night ember]

I said to scale it

but you arent scaling it

[inland seal]

Wich?

Too much choises

[night ember]

I said empty groups already

[inland seal]

?

[inland seal]

Im dumb ;D

[night ember]

you did it backwards

[inland seal]

oh

?

Now?

I delete this right?

Ig I will just wait for an answer

[lavish berry]

Anyone know how to setup an avatar thats been bought

[left gull]

It should come with instructions in the download (or the requirements in the purchase page's description)

[inland seal]

OMG

It works!

THX :D

[inland seal]

Dont you have Unity package file?

[lavish berry]

Yeah but i dont know if i just setup the camera and publish it or i have to put everything together

[inland seal]

You have to put everything together

Unless you dont want to add nothing to him

[lavish berry]

Ok the avi i got was sinestra bunny version

[ornate stump]

You should read instructions in the page you got it from.

[dusty roost]

so i was going back and edited the weight painting of my model because the hands were bad, but when i edit the weight paint of the pinkie and then move the hand and arm to test, some vertices seem to be dragged down and refuse to move with the arm and wrist. does anyone know what i did wrong?

[left gull]

it might be accidentally weightpainted to another bone (or not have any weights on those spots at all)

[junior void]

This is often the case if you mirror weights on a mesh that isnt perfectly symmetrical. Just check the vertex influences in edit mode?

[dusty roost]

woah ok maybe because this is what happens when i bend the OTHER arm..

[dusty roost]

how/where do i do this? sorry im fairly new to blender

nvm i think i figured it out!!

[inland seal]

None of my facial expressions work

It still updates and shows that I pressed the button

[hidden loom]

You have "Fingerless Cloves" as your face mesh selected. You might have dragged the wrong mesh in there

[inland seal]

O

Let me try Body

[hidden loom]

XD

[inland seal]

Still doesnt work ;D

[hidden loom]

Are you sure you didn't assign the "body" mesh of the body and assign the mesh the face is on? Check if your face mesh even has the blendshapes for it

[inland seal]

wdym

[subtle sigil]

hi, how can i make a slider that changes body parts size?

[inland seal]

hey?

[hidden loom]

I am starting my own unity project to show you an example

[inland seal]

sure

[hidden loom]

select the face like this. Locate the highlighted mesh in the hirarchy. Drag the highlighted mesh into the slot on your visemes. While checking the face mesh see if these blendshapes exist on it

[inland seal]

alr

Worked :D

[subtle sigil]

what does this mean?

[dusk pulsar]

Try to configure the armature and reselect bones for thigh, or leg bone. Might have assigned to the wrong ones.

Click on FBX, and on the right locate humanoid, under that should be "Configure" button.

[subtle sigil]

they seem fine

where is fbx?

[dusk pulsar]

#avatar-help message

This is the solution for one person

[dusk pulsar]

In your project files

At the bottom window, find it; or just click on your avi's name in hierarchy and on the right - click on blue icon under animator, that looks like a body, should directly pinpoint to FBX, as it's part of the rig.

[subtle sigil]

but the thighs are set as upper legs

isnt it right?

oh the warning is gone

i accidentally made an animation on the avatar, how do i reset the ''motorcycle pose''?

[dusty roost]

so uh. i had everything worked out and my model looked perfect in blender AND unity and i was like "okay cool time to upload!" and the pc version was fine but um. does anyone know why the quest version in gesture manager and vrchat became.. this?? intended model for comparison..

[timber wharf]

you exported blender witbout fbx all

#avatar-help message

[hidden loom]

I have an issue with my impostors lately. They are apparently always stuck Tposing to others. Is it known what could cause this to happen during impostor generation?

[woeful raft]

Anyone know what my problem is
Some colours (hat colour shirt colours ect) are different on pc than they are on quest

I made it into a slider

[tired lagoon]

anyone alive?

I need help with a little quick something

[somber sequoia]

hmm I think so

[tired lagoon]

@somber sequoia

Im In unitiy right and I'm trying to move the charcter to test physics but it's not working.

[somber sequoia]

got gesture manager or lyuma's av3 emulator?

[tired lagoon]

Gesure Managaer

[somber sequoia]

cool, you should be able to just select the avatar and move it in the scene view

[tired lagoon]

I didin't work

[somber sequoia]

works for me

[broken bone]

Are you in play mode?

Also make sure you're in the scene tab, not the game tab

[merry torrent]

Alright something went VERY wrong apparently, I added a silly knife with an animation and this happened lmao

[upbeat sluice]

you sure you didn't use the ue5 test knife lol

[somber sequoia]

hah I forgot about that

can you not just edit the name right there?

[merry torrent]

Ahaha I'm pretty sure...

I bought it from POINTLESS, I'm trying to make a clone project and see if it's a bug

[upbeat sluice]

if it comes out the same drop it in blender and decimating it will fix that problem

[merry torrent]

On the other avatar it's sligthtly less than 9k, alright I did something wrong probably

[jovial mantle]

How do I make my facial tracking for the PC version of my avi translate to my quest version? Both versions are uploaded with the facial tracking addon, the same animator, and menu.

[raven orbit]

the parameters need to be in the same order for both versions

[jovial mantle]

Oh, didnt know that matters. I use vrc fury to add them so I guess I should just merge them manually instead then?

[raven orbit]

yeah or use the same parameter thing on both

[jovial mantle]

Testing if it works sucks, need someone on quest while im on PC

any other way to test it?

[shadow bane]

Is anyone else having issues right now with toggles?
They function fine in unity, and I can see them properly turning on and off.
But on the avatar they stay enabled and refuse to turn off.

I've never encountered this issue before.

Like, I changed this one to a button to test and see if it justt had a long transition time or something.
But it doesn't. Its a 1 frame animation that turns on the fire breath, then turns it off when you let go.
But the avatar gets stuck in this animation and will not turn off the toggle.

It's even idle stated

So its not like its getting stuck on something

[somber sequoia]

I'm curious why people use Any State there.

[shadow bane]

It prevents animatiions from playing in the background

[somber sequoia]

what does that mean?

[shadow bane]

I've had issues where everytime I join a world, all my toggles have to reload each time

Having an idle state basically tells the avatar to leave the animations off until I activate them

[somber sequoia]

that seems like a lack of marking parameters "saved" in the avatar parameters list.

I wasn't asking about the idle state

[shadow bane]

They are set to be saved

Here you can see the eye states change when its toggled, and then they go away when its off.

So it IS working, but its getting stuck halfway

I didnt' have this issue until the most recent updatee

[main fiber]

is there a way i can make my avatar quest compatable with these working toggles without getting rid of my VRCFury toys? none of the params are working because vrcfury is changing around my order and is making none of the clothing options and whatnot, seen on the quest side!

[autumn viper]

When you get a vrca file, how do you import it into unity?

[mental dune]

Does anyone here know how to fix this issue with vrc fury

The debug says the hip doesn’t match when they share the same name if that helps

[mental estuary]

You're linking from the armature. Don't do that. Link from the hips of your clothing. You've also enabled advanced link target mode. You don't need to do that either. Re-add the armature link and drag the clothing hips into the Link From box. Leave the Link To dropdown as hips. And make sure the armature link is on your avatar, not outside it

[mental estuary]

VRCFury automatically handles Quest syncing. Leave all the VRCFury components on your Quest version and just remove the skinned mesh renderers, change the shaders, etc. As long as all the object names match, VRCFury will make sure your Quest avatar syncs. You should be on the latest version of VRCFury, upload your desktop version, then upload the Quest version

[mental dune]

thank you

[naive spoke]

how do I get my avatar into blender or unity to edit it?

I just downloaded it from an avatar world so I don't know how to get access to the files, if I even can

[raven orbit]

do you mean you picked a public avatar from an avatar world? you can't access the files that way

[naive spoke]

oh ok

where do people go to get ones that you can mess around with?

[raven orbit]

download it from the internet from websites like gumroad or BOOTH

[fathom meadow]

How do I switch the shader, I cut out a mesh in blender with the cut tool so I dont even have a shader on anything, how do I fix this?

[inland seal]

Why cant I upload an avatar more than 10mb?

It just doesnt let me do it

[glass condor]

Uhh, anyone familiar with blender, may I ask, whats with this huge bone?

[raven orbit]

the end point of the bone is pretty far away so it makes the bone look bigger. you could move the end of the bone closer to the origin point to make it look smaller or change the display type of the armature to is doesn't take up as much screen space

[glass condor]

oh I see...

[raven orbit]

not sure why it's so huge but the scale of the bone doesn't actually matter when moving it to in unity, just the rotation and position

[glass condor]

fair enough, thanks!

[autumn viper]

Can anyone help me

[digital anchor]

select your imported model in the project tab, open the material import settings in the inspector, extract materials, select the material you just extracted, in the inspector change the shader to something under vrchat/mobile

[inland seal]

Someone?

[sick snow]

Are you uploading to Quest/iOS?

[inland seal]

Quest/PC

[sick snow]

Quest is limited to 10mb.

[inland seal]

Then how a person could upload 80mb avatar on quest?

[sick snow]

Can't. Crunch it.

[inland seal]

But he did

[sick snow]

Not officially a thing that can be done, I feel.

[inland seal]

damn

[sick snow]

Sounds like some rule-breaking things, like using a modded SDK.

Do not attempt such, as that could result in an account infraction, or worse, a ban for VRC modding, I'm pretty sure.

I will say, if you wanna get that avatar on mobile platforms and/or so your fruit user friends can see it on their phones, pick what features are a must, nix things that you can afford to, and keep it under 10mb.

[digital cairn]

I'm trying to upload the quest versiom of an avatar I bought, but it won't let me set up the Lip Sync. I drag the body mesh into the box, but it doesn't change. It won't let me change the mode either. Is there a way to fix this?

[sick snow]

Once you drag your body mesh in there, if it doesn't automatically set up the lip sync, you might need to manually assign the visemes. Reference the PC version's settings on that.

Typically, I've found, this issue happens with SDK2.0 avatars you've upgraded to SDK3.0.

[fathom meadow]

Thanks so much

[main fiber]

thats what i had did, i had used quest tools so it all should've automatically converted with the prefabs and vrcfury components. that had still not allowed me for any changes to be made to the quest side when toggled on pc side

[digital cairn]

Hold on I think my explanation wasn't very clear. Here's a video of what's happening

This is also the same for the PC version, where it wont let me change anything

[raven orbit]

drag it in from the hierarchy

[digital cairn]

Tried in the video

[raven orbit]

oh my bad, i'd try closing and reopening the project cause i dont know why it would be doing that

[digital cairn]

Did that as well but I'll try it again. Next thing to try will be to make a new project and see if the problem persists

[dry ibex]

why does the clothing do this when i open gesture manager

[raven orbit]

looks like it's not weight painted right?

[dry ibex]

it should be

i looked at it in blender and it was fine

im trying to make the sweater a toggle though

so i made the model and sweater asset seperate

is there a way to make the sweater a toggle even if the parts are combined

[raven orbit]

yes, make a shapekey to scale it under the body mesh

there's a couple ways you could do that with varying results

[dry ibex]

i dont know how to do that is there any tutorials for this

[raven orbit]

easy way would be the shrink/fatten tool in edit mode but it might clip out of the body when posed

i dont know of any tutorials i just know how to do it, i can try to explain myself

[small valve]

How do I lower the Skinned Mesh Renderers?
If I disable this conponment, my entire model of this renderer turns invisible, but how can I use a default mesh renderer? And why does it use a skinned mesh renderer for everything? even simple objects with no shapekeys does have this skinned mesh renderer.

[somber sequoia]

bring your avatar into blender and merge them

[small valve]

what should I merge?

[somber sequoia]

having never seen your avatar, I couldn't begin to suggest anything

[small valve]

I mean I know that the skinned mesh renderer is a unity conponment, it always felt random how large the number of those is, I wish I just could the "Mesh Renderer" instead but I dont know why. But I guess its less Performance heavy.

[somber sequoia]

usually a skinned mesh renderer is one attached to an armature

[small valve]

from what I guess is the skinned mesh renderer a advanced mesh renderer for objects with shapekeys. but only my avatar itself have shapekeys and I dont need to use shakekey mesh renderer features for objects like knifes, hammer, e.g.

[raven orbit]

long way: keep the sweater mesh separated in blender, duplicate the armature mesh and delete any bones the sweater isn't weighted to and remove the parents of each bone. switch the sweater mesh to the duplicated armature in the modifiers tab. go into pose mode on the duplicated armature and select every bone, switch the transform orientation to local, press S then Shift+Y , which will scale the bones only in the local X and Z direction and make the sweater skinnier. go back to the modifiers and apply the armature modifier as shape key, then re-parent the sweater to the original armature with Ctrl+P and Armature Deform, then join the sweater to the other mesh. delete the duplicated armature

[raven orbit]

skinned mesh renderer is any mesh object that's weight painted to an armature

[dry ibex]

Ok tysm!!! im kinda new to blender so its much easier when stuff like this is explained to me,, i appreciate itt!!11!

[raven orbit]

hope my explanation was clear enough to understand 🙏

[small valve]

ok, then I guess put the hair ribbon also directly into the armature of the avatar in blender, instead of just adding it in Unity as an additional gameobject.

But I guess the pain will be to join the hair ribbon armature to the armature of the player, without that some of those meshes screw up and becomes a 100meters large.

[somber sequoia]

export with correct scaling settings

[raven orbit]

not just the armature, you'd have to join the meshes in order to reduce the number of mesh renderers

[small valve]

not only the scale, the entire weightpaint is gone, after adding the hair ribbon armature to the Player armature

[raven orbit]

join the armatures too

[somber sequoia]

yeah I have no idea what you did there, so...

but that seems like a separate issue from the scaling comment

[small valve]

found it, thanks.
I jsut added the bones to the bones or the mesh to the mesh without both at the same time.

[glass condor]

So I have a hold in my avis head
I'm new to blender, is there an easy way to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

fix what exactly?

[glass condor]

the hole

like, how can I add new vertices to fix it?

[somber sequoia]

oh hole. Select edges, make a face between them

[glass condor]

ahhh thank you!

[terse turret]

There any way to turn off backface culling on quest?

[raven orbit]

the only way i know how to deal with backface culling on quest is to duplicate the faces and flip them

[glass condor]

Oh and when rigging, do I connect the left and right leg to the Hip bone in the armature on blender?

[visual tartan]

do anybody know how to fix animations not working im using gesture managar and i try using hand gestures and even gogo loco but my avatar wont move i go too the animation page and hit preview on one of the gestures and the hand does nothing

[elfin harbor]

I don't know why but this keeps on happening in vrc, now when I go into my avatar it's there (my head) then after a few minutes disappears, not this is only on my camera, face mirror, but main mirrors and placeable personal mirror is fine can anyone help?

[dim lark]

Anyone else having issue with SDK 3.7.3 with VRC Constraints?

[tough snow]

Does anyone know why Cat's Plugin would be doing... this...? To a model, when I click "Join All Meshes"? It's the Unofficial Version of Cat's Plugin for Blender 4.1 if that makes any difference, but just checking since I have NO idea where to get older versions of blender, lmao.

[raven orbit]

yeah

[raven orbit]

previous blender versions here: https://download.blender.org/release/

[raven orbit]

buy maybe also try applying all transforms with Cntrl+A before joining

[wide marsh]

How do I fix this because it disabled the entire out

Outfit*

[somber sequoia]

You'd have to fix the bad face in Blender or similar, can't do it in Unity

[wide marsh]

wierd bc the guy who helped me work on it last night got it to work for him without issues and he gave me the exact file

[small valve]

a weird issue appeard, I have a bunch of in blender working shapekeys, but since the last export, not a single shakepey is anymore visible in the FBX file in unity.
But in Blender the shakekeys are all there and they work perfectly.

What can cause such a issue where the shapekeys seems to be gone in the fbx, but still there in Blender and fully functional?

[somber sequoia]

that probably isn't the cause of your problem then - usually it's just going to be a small number of polys affected anyway

[somber sequoia]

Do you have an un-applied modifier that isn't applying automatically when you export? Like subdivision or mirror?

[wide marsh]

but why did it work for him without modifying in blender but not for me? my computer prob cant handle blender unfortunately

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what the problem is, I'm just going by that one warning message

[small valve]

No clue how you found it out, before I even uploaded the screenshots, you are a Genius!

[somber sequoia]

Because I've experienced this more than once 🙂

[wide marsh]

more from the system

[somber sequoia]

oh that's a lot of them, okay. Probably needs a good looking over

[small valve]

I have multiple saves, like "saveV5", "saveV6".
SaveV5 was able to make shapekeys in the fbx but V6 not, I reduzed over 2k+ polygons, just by deleting not visible hair, that was stuck inside the head and never visible to any eye.
I added the decimate tool because I curious how many polygons this will reduce and I forgot to remove it after I was finnished.

[somber sequoia]

yep, that'll do it

[left gull]

a few people have been i recc staying on 3.7.0 especially if you're adding stuff with vrcfury

[pale wigeon]

why do my normals map not fit on the avatr on quest? it fit perfectly on pc but quest no.

[somber sequoia]

possibly whatever work was done to convert it messed with the UV maps, you'd have to investigate that.

?

[mossy swan]

Can integers work with radial sliders?

[timber wharf]

wha you mean by fit

@mossy swan no its float and not even 1% precise

[mossy swan]

The float is bricking

[timber wharf]

you can use parameter driver but you better off with makin it just work

bricking says nothin to me

[mossy swan]

It flickers between 1.00 and X (x being any number other than 1)

[timber wharf]

wha

did ya forgot do dissble loop on animation clip?

[mossy swan]

Hi Kazin

[somber sequoia]

oh this was the thing from the other day, wasn't it 🙂

[somber sequoia]

yes

[mossy swan]

Yup, same issue.

And it seems to happen regardless of animation loops

[timber wharf]

animation clip inspector, animator setup, transitons, animation clip keyframes. 🤷‍♂️

send imgs i mean

[somber sequoia]

not sure why you have two states in that animation layer. Why not just go direct into the blendtree?

[mossy swan]

Its a falsesafe in case I couldn't guarantee the emission slider would work.

Kills all emissions with a bool toggle

[somber sequoia]

Other than that, this looks about how mine is, though mine is 2 levels deep in a direct blend tree

[open spindle]

My facical expressions are getting stuck but only slightly

[mossy swan]

I'm pondering setting up some sort of sub menu instead to just have like an array or toggles since I can't get the radial puppet to be reliable.

I like a healthy radiance without becoming a nuclear sun.

[night ember]

Im confused on why you are using a blendtree for that when you could just have a single animation with the float controlling the motion of it

[mossy swan]

Its a method I'm more immediately familiar with.

[night ember]

literally just have a 2 keyframe animation of it going from 0 to full emission
then just stick the float parameter in the motion time slot

[somber sequoia]

they had a combination of both at first, which of course is weird.

[mossy swan]

The argument is purely academic until I can figure out why the float parameter is misbehaving. I checked the debug, and its not an artifact of the UI.

[open spindle]

My facical expressions are getting stuck but only slightly

[prisma sedge]

I'm reading through your issue and in my opinion its coming down to your own stubbornness of not trying a different, more effective way that they're telling you

[mossy swan]

Oh?

[dark jay]

how do i fix arms clipping through jacket

[night ember]

weight painting

[visual tartan]

how do I fix this ive never had this issue with making avatars this is the first

no animations work on the avatar that im making

i never touched anything on blender the body head or bones

[mossy swan]

Swapped it over to do the "Safety" and then switch over to a sliding animation with the parameter controlling motion time. I have no reason to believe this'll fix it? But its something else I can try.

I'm just tossing stuff to see what sticks at this stage.

Also, @night ember Cloud said its more efficient than a blend tree? How come?

[night ember]

single animation with a single parameter controlling the entire thing?

[mossy swan]

Single animation with two key frames and a single controlling parameter, vs. two animations with one key frame each and blended states inbetween.

Seems like it should be doing the same math either way?

[night ember]

single animation vs setting up an entire blendtree just for 2 animations

[mossy swan]

Entire blend tree? Isn't the single animation basically a blend tree already?

[left gull]

~~Does anyone know how i can fix items not opening up in the inspector when selecting them? i tried re-opening my project and scene aswell as reloading the SDK theres no errors or anything in console either ~~ apparently something with thry's performance tool bugged the project out kek

[kindred kite]

D; my viewpoint isnt moving, ive put it to where i always do on my avi made sure it was saved etc then uploaded the avi yet it still have the viewpoint super off, i checked in desktop and vr still the same aswell as making sure theres not multiple avatar descripters or blender camera in the blender scene i got the fbx from yet still screwed up

[somber sequoia]

try expanding the window? Unity seems to be a bit buggy with this sometimes

[prisma sedge]

also make sure that the inspector isn't locked

[mossy swan]

I am sorry if I seem adversarial. I don't mean to be. I think that's more of my chemistry training coming to bear. Its habit to drill down to understand stuff. I don't particularly doubt that its more efficient? But I don't understand why it would be if animations already exist as seemingly continuous motions (or rather quantized in to very rapid frames). Which I would assume blend trees are also trying to calculate.

[visual tartan]

can someone help me on this? my animations arent working i dont know what the solution or issue is i never touched anything in particular on blender all the bones move what they are suppose to move gestures or gogo loco arent moving when i use them WD is on i turned it off and its the same issue i dont know

[somber sequoia]

this is a good place to start if you want to dig into performance in this area: https://vrc.school/docs/Other/Benchmarks/

[mossy swan]

I got confused where "stubborn" was coming from, and realized I probably seem a bit adversarial when I get into questions about someone's work.

Its hard to explain, but its more driven by a combination of curiosity and also wanting to predict things when the next problem arrises. Or how to fully exploit the capabilities of existing systems.

I.E: know its limits

[mossy swan]

Ooooh no, you just gave me graphs and data...I'mma be neck deep in this for awhile

[dark jay]

This happens can someone help check my weight paints

[somber sequoia]

ahh so you are that type. Enjoy 🙂

[kindred kite]

seems like u just need more weight on the shoulders

[somber sequoia]

Shoulders are hard, but that seems pretty close already

[fast hollow]

Does anyone know how to properly add pants to a avatar? I have tried multiple kinds and they always just clip right through the legs when i move the position at all

[mossy swan]

No kidding, this is a gold mine, and it says a lot of interesting things about how the computations work.

[night ember]

blender

[somber sequoia]

blender

[severe galleon]

dose anyone know how i can fix this (Missing) error thing?

[night ember]

have the hierarchy actually be correct

if you change the hierarchy at all it breaks the animation

[severe galleon]

when i downloaded the wings it came with 5 animations, so this animations can't find the wings to do the animation, is there a way to fix it or repair it anything?

[night ember]

youd probably need to remake the animation if you cant match the original hierarchy

[royal summit]

What is going on with 3.7.3 Build

[somber sequoia]

there's an animation repathing tool that can help with this

https://github.com/hfcRed/Animation-Repathing

[royal summit]

Ah nvm. I read and it was Poi toon script issue when updating SDK

[open spindle]

My facical expressions are getting stuck but only slightly

[severe galleon]

i just check the whole XYZ Positions and Rotation, they all are empty, they all just the default wings no one of them are bent or spread or anything, i guess i got no choice i have to re-do the animations

[dusk pulsar]

In-complete animations? Or bad use of write defaults. Or bad conditions? Could be anything.
Check FX of your avatar which should have states for LeftHand and RightHand

[somber sequoia]

I'd try re-pathing it with that tool first

[open spindle]

Ok

[dusk pulsar]

You could use Gesture Manager, which can be installed through "Manage Project" in Creator Companion and then import it into hierarchy, click on it, on the right - play.
Then open FX and check if there are issues in animation states.

[buoyant thorn]

Why is a part on my elbow moving when jumping like its weighed to a wrong area, but when I move elbow in unity its weighed correctly and I tried moving everything else nothing moves it, I checked rig configuration its not mapped to anything but it still moves when I jump whats going on 😭

[dusk pulsar]

Weight paint issue, have you checked blender?

[buoyant thorn]

Yes it's not a weight paint issue

I checked it

[severe galleon]

tell me the tool to re-path it

[buoyant thorn]

it moves fine and the weight paint looks like it should

[severe galleon]

i wanna download it

[buoyant thorn]

but in vrc it does magically shit or something 😭

[somber sequoia]

I literally posted it in here, scroll up

[severe galleon]

oh mb, alr thx

[dusk pulsar]

Trust me, sometimes it happens. You wouldn't notice by moving bones in unity. Check Blender, try using gradient tool to unweight other parts for that part. Unless it's missing some weight paint? Or an object is not connected properly, under something else, as example: arm attached to hips

[buoyant thorn]

no dude I moved the hip bone to like 100 on the Y scale

I know weight painting alot im 100% it cant be that, I checked for weights on every bone

[somber sequoia]

it's probably attached to a child of the hip bone, if it doesn't move with the hip bone

[buoyant thorn]

no its all correct

[somber sequoia]

or maybe even unweighted

[buoyant thorn]

but for someone reason it just keeps doing it

I know I might seem stubborn but I am serious I checked absolutely everything

[dusk pulsar]

Then your best bet is to ask for someone's free time and let them look into it. This would take a few mins probably. It's better to have multiple checks in case. Some may notice something different.

Just FBX file, to check in Blender

Also, someone, who you trust, or is known.

[stoic bobcat]

trying to make 2d visemes in unity but they seem to get very delayed and doesnt seem like they play right, followed a tutorial and still nothing, anyone know a good tutorial out there that might help

[barren stump]

I've been having an issue with my avi where the imposter generated for it is stuck in a T-pose and can't move in the world, so it ends up getting stuck at spawn so people think I'm there when I'm somewhere completely different. Any idea on what might be causing the issue?

[dusk pulsar]

GoGo Loco error? T-Pose is missing? Maybe. Just a suggestion. But if your avi is ok, therefore should imposter be same.

[glass condor]

This is more of a blender issue than a vrc issue, but I hope someone can answer it real quick anyways, uhh, I tried to follow this tutorial to add a texture, and at 2:19 it doesn't show that weird box layer on the texture in the newer window when I press TAB

https://youtu.be/mURA2g1rOSc?si=6kjoqRT2v_NOmW9-

[severe galleon]

is there a plugin for animating?

like for example if i animated a part the plugin make the other part similar to ir like mirror

is there anything like that?

[raven orbit]

the uv map wont be visible until a face is selected

[glass condor]

a face? What exactly do you mean?

[ornate stump]

Faces are polygons that make up the mesh.

[raven orbit]

just press a in edit mode to select everything

[glass condor]

ok...so I have to exactly select the side (face) of the object I want to texture and it'll show up?

[barren stump]

The avi is fine on PC and Quest, it's just the imposter which is broken

[chrome scarab]

anyone having issues with VRC constraints since the update? It doesn't work at all for me

it actually broke what used to work. Even the ones that were uploaded in the past.

[dry ibex]

I downloaded a handgesture animation unity package thingy, how do i add it to the avatar and get it to work

[mossy swan]

Parameter is still borked

https://tenor.com/view/vaporeon-gif-23934145

[visual tartan]

anybody know how to fix this

[feral isle]

Any idea what to do?

[night ember]

whats the issue exactly

[visual tartan]

nvm i literally just took the .001 off my amature name and it fucked it up LMAO

note too self dont change name of amature

[icy fractal]

i’m struggling to understand this

i’m assuming the secondary eye is the eye color itself but when i’ve tried to color the texture it does NOTHING

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

we dont know how your model is set up

[covert comet]

Hello everyone

I'm generally new to VRChat, as I just started playing it about 2 weeks ago to join a friend online.

I've experience with Unity, so my friend asked me to add a prop to her avatar. So I figured I'd take a look.

The process went pretty smoothly, but I've run into a little problem.

Using Gesture Manager's debug menu, I'm able to toggle the new prop on and off correctly. However, the menu (from left controller) doesn't turn the prop on. But if I enable the prop, and then use the menu turn it off, it works, but again, turning it on doesn't work. It's just stuck to off.

As stated above, using GM's debuging options I can turn it on and off, so I'm kind of stumped as to what I should be doing.

The object is a child object with an Audio Source that just plays a simple tune. The object itself is a child object to the avatar. The object is enabled by default, and disables (as expected) when the editor is running.

I'm not quite sure what I should be looking for now, as the menu has the parameter matching properly. I've also used the same variable name for EVERYTHING regarding this object.

If needs be, I can post screenshots, but I figured I'd ask first incase someone might know directly whats wrong.

Thanks for reading! (And sorry if I interrupt something already being discussed!)

[heavy zephyr]

Might be the menu control being the wrong type? Is it a toggle or a button?

[covert comet]

It's a toggle, and I set it as a toggle because that's what everything else in the controller mappings had for things like clothes, other props, etc.
I did at one point try changing it to a button, but that didn't work so I swapped it back to Toggle.

[heavy zephyr]

So you got a toggle, good, what is the default value of your parameter? Did you check for duplicate animations in the first layer in FX? Are you using WD On or Off?

[covert comet]

default value is off. Infact, I turned all 3 of the parameters off while I was testing things. Off the top of my head, I didn't see any duplicate animations; though I suppose it is posse that the anim is on the wrong layer? Something I should check. And I'm afraid I don't know what WD is, so I cannot say.

Oh, and by all 3 parameters off, I mean default, saved, synced.

[heavy zephyr]

Right so in your FX controller, check that your first layer (base layer) is empty.

WD stands for Write Defaults, it's the checkbox that you can see when selecting a state in your animation controllers (in that case your FX controller)

[covert comet]

AH, I'm a good 90+% sure that WD is turned on, as I matched what the other props and objects were doing.
I'll check that FX controller layer in just a tick.

[heavy zephyr]

If you're using WD On then your logic must be something like :

• Idle/Default state : No animation

Transition when param = true to :

• On state : Animation that toggles the object

Transition when param = false back to Idle/Defaults

[covert comet]

Yes, that's correct.

Just opening up the project now, I'll be able to provide screenshots

[heavy zephyr]

I see a few errors in your console, one seems to mention your music off state

[covert comet]

Oh. I honestly did not see that error last night, you're right.

[heavy zephyr]

If you want to screenshot that or paste it here

[heavy zephyr]

That parameter is NOT synced and saved

Look how the 3 checkboxes are unchecked

That would explain your issues

[timber wharf]

(well it shouldnt be saved probly)

[heavy zephyr]

True but eh

[covert comet]

Oh, I thought that those were 1) regarding saving the avatars state for world transition and 2) Synced to the network for others match on their end.

I clicked on the error and this showed

But i did set it in the FX Scaled controller that the avatar is using.

[heavy zephyr]

So the first one (from left to right) is the default value, which is correctly off

The second is the saved value, which indeed determines if that value resets to default when switching avatars or worlds, probably good to leave that off

The third determines if the value changes on that parameter are being sent over the network, you probably want that on

[covert comet]

Ah, so exactly what I was thinking it was. I have them turned on now anways.

Now I just need to figure out what that error is there, and why no parameter is showing up.

[heavy zephyr]

This error is complaining about a controller named "Spell SCALEABLE NO DISSOLVE IN", the FX layer you are using and editing seems to be named "FX Scale" those are two different controllers

[covert comet]

Yup, that's correct. And FX Scale does have the layer and parameter in it.

[heavy zephyr]

If I were to guess, that "Spell SCALEABLE NO DISSOLVE IN" controller is currently in the animator slot on your avatar

You probably want that empty and instead only edit the "FX Scale" controller

[shrewd edge]

easiest way to fix this? do i make seperate unity projects for pc and quest or something? i genuinely dont know how im going over this bc all my quest materials have tiny textures

does it include all the assets in the project or something

[heavy zephyr]

Lower texture sizes and overall number of objects

[covert comet]

Ah, you're right!

[timber wharf]

@shrewd edge step one is use vrcfury it comes with blendhsape optimiser

[shrewd edge]

im already doing this stuff

10mb is a really small size to fit into when was that changed...?

[timber wharf]

then thats it, if texture sizd and blendshapes dont help, only actually removing assets

[heavy zephyr]

Simply leave that controller slot empty and edit your "FX Scale" controller, or you can slot "FX Scale" in it instead if it makes it easier

[timber wharf]

it always was 10mb compressed for quest

well for years

[shrewd edge]

i have never hit that limit before ever?

[timber wharf]

now its also 40mb uncompressed

@shrewd edge https://github.com/MunifiSense/VRChat-Build-Size-Viewer

[covert comet]

Nope, even doing that doesn't work. Same issue.

[heavy zephyr]

While in play mode can you check the controller on your avatar again?

I see a few thinks mentioning VRCFury, it might be overriding your changes

[shrewd edge]

omgggggg halfing the res of all textures worked

idc i dont play on quest yippee

[covert comet]

While running, it gets changed. I think you're right about it being overwritten.

[timber wharf]

oh, if its vrcf just use vrcf toggle component

no need to manually edit menu controller etc

you need only animations

[heavy zephyr]

Might be better if they learn how to get it to work manually first tho

Instead of fully relying on tools

Up to them tho

[covert comet]

I did keep seeing something about VRCFury doing it automatically, but I wanted to know how to do it manually. I like knowing how to do things manually before automating them lol.

But that just leads the quest, whats the fix? Where should I be looking now?

[heavy zephyr]

Might be a bit iffy to debug that over text, mind trying a VC?

[shrewd edge]

by maximim here does it mean theyre gonna kill me with hammers and block my avi or is it just ">.< we're gonna hide it by default unless someone manually shows it"

[covert comet]

Sure thing, where to vc?

[heavy zephyr]

It will just be very poor

[heavy zephyr]

Sent a DM

[shrewd edge]

thanks! and just to make sure (its been a few months since i last played) you can still see very poor avis on quest by manually showing the avi right?

[covert comet]

Thanks!

[heavy zephyr]

Yes

[shrewd edge]

okok good thank you!

i see a new ios tab do i have to manually do stuff for that? i googled it and didnt get an answer

actually nobody in my group plays on ios idgaf

[raven orbit]

on ios, very poor avatars dont work at all

[empty quartz]

I want to create a toggle to control the avatar's position in space. I create animations with y 0 and y 100 position. I customize it and it doesn't change in vrchat. Before this I have already made animations of the face through the hand and animations of objects. How can I implement this correctly?

[signal totem]

for some reason most of my avatar is black on the mobile version of vrchat specifically

[somber sequoia]

likely vertex colors, the mobile shaders use them by default

[signal totem]

it looks normal on quest

[somber sequoia]

oh, not sure then

[signal totem]

i have a feeling that this is a bug

[somber sequoia]

iirc you have to put the avatar into temporary pose space. I don't know of a tutorial about it, when I last looked into it I was digging into Gogo Loco, since it does this

[signal totem]

cuz i tried atlasing 2 textures, one of them not being black in vrchat, and that made the other texture also normal. it's like it can render only one texture at once...

[signal totem]

also, on this image you can see that just the albedo is black, the normal is there

i fixed it!

so, when i was beginning to make my avatar, i couldn't fit into the 10mb limit for android, so i set texture resolution overrides for android so that it would fit

but i've made some changes since that and i didn't need these overrides anymore, so i disabled them

and now it works

[small valve]

Is it a bad idea to enable/disable the game object if a bone, from my avatar armature?
Or should I better scale them to 0? ifI want to make the mesh disappear that is weight painted to this bone.

[signal totem]

even better, if you are able to join the meshes, you could make a shape key to make it invisible

[small valve]

I thought shapekeys are more performance heavy and also does cost more effort in blender

[night ember]

its less effort than using a bone

[signal totem]

it's not that hard. just create a basis shape key, and another one, and in that one modify the mesh

and then you can use that shape key in an animation

[small valve]

In my case, I want either scale down the bone to 0 to make my mesh disapear or disable the gameobject of it.

[small valve]

But what is the benefit of it?
I already have weightpainted it to my bone?
Do I get a tiny bit better performance or do I avoid a bug that could happen?

[signal totem]

with shape keys you don't need multiple meshes

[somber sequoia]

since Unity 2022 they aren't anywhere near as much performance impact

[small valve]

I made Handcuffs but to avoid one extra material, I put the texture in the atlas with the Avatar textures. But I want to also toggle those handcuffs, so I already weightpainted them to a bone, and that bone is connected to the arm bone.

[signal totem]

and less meshes = better performance

[somber sequoia]

I'd be doing UV tile discard for that 🙂

[small valve]

not sure what kind of mesh you mean, but my handcuffs does use the same material like the avatar. the handcuffs does use polygons to be visible and polygons are a mesh.
I dont mean some kind of Unity conponment,

[signal totem]

as in, meshes that are seperate, have their own seperate materials

[small valve]

but I join them to the of the avatar in Blender

[signal totem]

oh

[night ember]

everything about your avatar that makes it visible uses a mesh

[small valve]

But it shares the same Unity Componment like the avatar and the avatar itself already have one.

the handcuffs are also part of the Skinned Mesh Renderer of the Avatar body

[night ember]

so then they are the same mesh

[small valve]

no extra componment what would increase the VRC Upload counter.

I only asked, should I enable/disable the bone where my handcuffs are weightpainted on or should I better scale it in a animation to make them disappear?

[broken turret]

Hi guys, need some help. For some reason head of my avatar is transparent, so I see other faces inside of it. How to fix it? :<

[night ember]

enabling and disabling the bone doesnt do anything

[small valve]

ok, gues I only have the choice with the scaling.
(without recreating the handcuff part again in Blender, just to make them to a shapekey)

[signal totem]

open your model in blender, go to edit mode, select all polygons and press shift + n to recalculate normals

[broken turret]

Ok thx

[long lava]

Hey, does anyone know if it's possible to add animations to avatars with a generic rig?
I am absolutely ready to create walking, running, sitting, jumping, afk.... animation to my avatar
But i just cannot find any tutorials

[vale cove]

Hey, I've been having a stupidly strange issue that has made my commissions become more and more delayed as time goes on, but why do my blend trees just randomly disappear?

[raven orbit]

basically gotta recreate all the animation layers with generic animations, you can find the default animator controllers in the SDK files of your project and copy and edit those

[long lava]

aaaa thank you

[raven orbit]

most important one would be the locomotion (aka base) layer, you can replace the animations in the blendtrees, and if you want you could even delete points on the blendtree to simplify it because there's a lot by default

[broken turret]

Ok, nothing changed :/

[raven orbit]

does the yellow material have transparency enabled (also you do not need that many materials for completely flat colors 🤨 )

[broken turret]

No

[broken turret]

Actually, can you tell me, this recalculate is for face or full model??

[raven orbit]

in blender you can enable backface culling and that'll help see what needs to be fixed

[broken turret]

I don't have the same thing-

[raven orbit]

click the solid circle

[broken turret]

O

Wait a min

I think something is going well now

Let me check first

[broken turret]

Omg dude thank yo so muuch!!!

[cinder pulsar]

Anyone know how to make a contact toggle that shows the button that toggles it being pressed?

[subtle sigil]

hi, how can i make a slider that changes body parts size?

in game

[dark jay]

I'm struggling with weight paints can someone help me heres the issue

[somber sequoia]

shoulders still, right? What are you struggling with?

[dark jay]

Trying to properly weight it and figuring it out

Im ok at weights but not on this level

[somber sequoia]

shoulders are one of the hard ones, yeah

[dark jay]

Yea

It is

[dark jay]

Whats the best tips u got

[somber sequoia]

keep trying until you get it 🙂

actually one more: don't be afraid of just moving the clothing mesh further from the body, sometimes you have to.

[subtle sigil]

i'm trying to make a slider to change body part size, the slider works but the parts don't change

[tired lagoon]

How do you fix this?

[somber sequoia]

remove excess physbone components or limit the number of transforms (bones) the components affect. Lots of discussion about it in #quest-optimization

[tired lagoon]

where is that at?

[subtle sigil]

kazin can you help 👀

[somber sequoia]

where is what at?

[tired lagoon]

so i can remove it

[somber sequoia]

all I can say is watch the animator while testing in play mode with gesture manager or av3 emulator and see what's actually happening.

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what your project looks like, so no idea where physbone components are

"somewhere on the avatar" is the closest I could get

[tired lagoon]

can we call rq?

[somber sequoia]

I don't do that

[tired lagoon]

ah

[subtle sigil]

idk, the animation works but not on the slider

[somber sequoia]

then it's an issue of how your animator layer is setup

(probably)

[subtle sigil]

it's only 1 layer

and 1 parameter

[raven orbit]

weight paint it while it's posed and if you add weight to a group remember to remove weight to other adjacent groups and vice versa

[vapid hedge]

Can someone please DM me and send me a light tutorial on how to make an avatar vibrate like this? I need it for avatar. I'm working on and I want it to be more accurate.

[glass condor]

Ok,I'm back from last night, now I need some help applying a texture to a select part of a mesh...but the thing is, I wanna dm about it, because this project is kinda top secret. I don't want people in the vrc discord to leak what I'm doing for the fandom I'm in lol

@raven orbit you were there last night when I asked about the blender issue, can I dm you?

[dark jay]

Um i altased it into one material

[raven orbit]

sure but cant guarentee a quick reply cause im busy rn

[subtle sigil]

how do i add a sub menu??

these just don't work

[glass condor]

ah I understand

[raven orbit]

if it's a submenu, why do you have a parameter on it?

[subtle sigil]

i was trying to figure it out

but nothing works

[raven orbit]

you probably don't need the parameter in it

[subtle sigil]

but it doesn't work with or without it

it only shows everything from one sub menu

[glass condor]

Screw it I'll just expose the project because I want answers.

Trying to apply the texture on the left to the mask on the character's face to the right, namely onto that plate. It seems like it did apply the texture, but I need the face to, well, be on the face of the character.

Any help?

[junior void]

What does the uv look like

[glass condor]

uh how do I show that?💀

I'm a noob sorry

[junior void]

The double arrow at the top left should enable vertex selection sync

So have the face selected also

[glass condor]

it looks like this 😥

[junior void]

You may want to orthographically view the face, hit u -> peoject from view to make a flat projection

Not on the whole avatar

Only the one face in the face

Perhaps hide the rest of the avi

[glass condor]

I'll try that rq

[subtle sigil]

if i have multiple parameters do i need to change the number next to them?

[junior void]

I have a feeling there isnt a uv unwrap and if there is, its tiny/misplaced

Oh boy

[glass condor]

I could just delete the mask and try to apply the texture in a separate project, if you think that might be better?

The separate project being the mask

[junior void]

You could do that but hiding the avi is easy

Select the face, ctrl i to invert your selection, then h to hide

[glass condor]

ah ok thanks! Now what happens from here?

[junior void]

It appears that it is assigned to the body material

Ill assume the face img is a whole other material

[glass condor]

yeah

[junior void]

So select the geometry there, select the other material and click assign right below the material list

The image should change based on material assignment

[glass condor]

I selected the geometry and it looks like this on the left (I didn't even select the other material to assign, it just automatically switched to this)

[junior void]

Then it is assigned, just not unwrapped

[junior void]

Do this

[glass condor]

I just press U?

ohhhhh

[junior void]

You will project a uv from view

So make sure your view is flat

[glass condor]

I see...now it's sideways tho 😂

[glass condor]

I did, y- flat

how do I re-orient it?

[junior void]

Now you may rotate the image or uv to your liking

The vertices you see on the left now control whats where

You can drag them around how you like

[glass condor]

vertices on the left?

[junior void]

Id select a, hit r to totate and then see what works

[glass condor]

(sorry im a lil slow)

ohh ok

[buoyant lintel]

Hey fellas, how do I unclamp meshes in unity?

[glass condor]

I gotcha, I rotated it. looks great! How do I reveal my hidden mesh now...?

[junior void]

Alt h

[glass condor]

broooo thanks so much!

[junior void]

No problem

Keep in mind if you change the geometry of this face mesh, you may at some point need to unwrap it again. This is why uv stuff is a task we do rather late when we are sure it wont change drastically

[somber sequoia]

not sure what this has to do with weight painting?

[somber sequoia]

unclamp? What does that mean

[junior void]

I assume unclamp means detach from an armature to make objects movable

[buoyant lintel]

Idk I just saw it

[junior void]

Heck i was wrong

[buoyant lintel]

Idk what "player settings" are either

[junior void]

Blendshapes can be between 0 and 1. In BLENDER they can be pushed up to 10 iirc

You do not need to worry about this. Avatar makers know this and make Blendshapes perfectly ok to be clamped at 1 max

[buoyant lintel]

i just wanna remove a collor for an avatar, but for some reason the toggles are blend shapes instead

[junior void]

Do you mean color or collar?

[buoyant lintel]

but for some reason i cant alter it when i go into play mode so i assumed its because its clamped

collar

my bad

[somber sequoia]

is it a separate mesh object? If not, you'll need to go into Blender or similar to split the mesh into separate objects

[junior void]

Its not because its clamped. So youre saying theres a blendshape to hide it and once you hit play it comes back?

[buoyant lintel]

exactly

[subtle sigil]

i can't change the scale of a bone when animating

[junior void]

That means the blendshape is animated

In this case theres likely a toggle for it in your ingame menu.

The functionality for this can be found in your fx playable layer if you really wanna remove it

Having it as toggle seems decent tho :3

[buoyant lintel]

alright thanks a million

[placid mural]

Hi, I have a problem. I wanted to make a folding phone and to open it I used the script Speed Calculator. But it can't be downloaded. Are there any substitutions?
Translated with the help of a translator

[buoyant lintel]

do you know what file type it is?

[subtle sigil]

if i try to change these values they go back to 1

[placid mural]

C#

[buoyant lintel]

ah damn then idk

[placid mural]

Thanks anyway.

[glass condor]

@junior void One last question, I'm so sorry, but did I forget a toggle or something in blender?💀

face no appear in unity

[junior void]

Did you create a Material in unity that has the face texture and added it to that Material slot?

[glass condor]

ahhh how do?

[junior void]

Dont rely on embedded materials from blender ;)

In your asset folder, right click -> create -> material

Import your face texture and assign it to the albedo slot of the material

Then drop the material onto the slot

[glass condor]

oh in unity you mean, I get it

[junior void]

Ye ye

[glass condor]

uhh

it seems to have not worked? Did I miss something?

[junior void]

Your texture looks white

Did you make the face Texture in blender?

[subtle sigil]

one of my radial puppets is working but the other isn't

help

[junior void]

Nvm i see the preview in the bottom

[glass condor]

no, I drew it and added it to blender(?)

[junior void]

Did you assign this material to the material slot on the body?

[glass condor]

I fixed it lmao, I had to do that

[junior void]

Yay

[glass condor]

Again, mega thanks and thanks for putting up with my goofy self lol

[inland seal]

How can I set so I can open files using Unity 2022.3.22f1?

Since I cant do it now

[somber meadow]

Open what files

[placid mural]

Delete everything except Unity 2022.3.22f1.

[inland seal]

i did

it shws open with unity hub

how i lcate it

[placid mural]

Fuck

Maybe in the file properties?

[glass condor]

Oh uh, I uploaded an avi to build and test and it's stuck permanently t-posing. What did I possibly do wrong?

[inland seal]

ddnt found it

[junior void]

Did you forget to export the armature

[limber oriole]

how do i animated my emmison strenghth? am trying to make a button the glows when you touch it

[inland seal]

help ;D

[subtle sigil]

i can't change these values in animation

[glass condor]

oh shit

[junior void]

Lol

[placid mural]

I can send you screenshots, but I have Windows in russian, is it not a problem?

[inland seal]

im russian

its fine

[proud lodge]

heya i was hoping someone could help me? ive added a new bodysuit to my avatar and everything fits on perfectly with no clipping when in pose mode, however whenever i go into play mode in unity the Giggle physics on the chest causes the skin to clip through the bodysuit, any tips?

[limber oriole]

use blend shapes

[junior void]

Did you limit your weights?

[limber oriole]

to shrink the chest skin when the body suit is on

and itll fix clipping

[junior void]

Unity will strip weights to 4 bones per vertex

[proud lodge]

i thought of that but there inst a blendshape available to do that

[junior void]

Also yes, using blendshapes is common

[limber oriole]

you make them in blender

it doesnt come with it

or most dont anyways

but there very easy to do

[proud lodge]

i transfered my weights in blender if that what u mean?

[inland seal]

yes ik

ut where is it located

like the file

[junior void]

Not what i meant but eh

Gotta take out my gsd

[proud lodge]

i would have to add that to the base model tho, its a complete avatar i purchases with outfits already attached just wanted to add a top, everytime i try to make changes to a base model when i reimport it into unity they brake

[limber oriole]

ow

in that case the body its self probly has a blend shape

[proud lodge]

thats what im saying it dosent

[placid mural]

If I understand correctly, right-click on the file you want to open with Unity.

[limber oriole]

ow

mb

in that case

your physbone is probly too high

[inland seal]

doexnt work

ir opens unity hub

[limber oriole]

the creator probly tested it with lower phys bone compared to yours resulting in no clipping

[proud lodge]

so how could i fix this?

[placid mural]

Try opening your project and then opening the file.

[limber oriole]

reduce gravity

and i think pull

i dont reamber phys bone settigns too much

but all your current numbers for em take away 3-4

so if you got 10 put it to like 6-7

[proud lodge]

on the base avatar?

[limber oriole]

where ever the chest physbone is

[proud lodge]

alrighty ill give it a go thankyou

[limber oriole]

yw

[glass condor]

@junior void I uhh...think I didn't forget to export the armature. So I think something else might be wrong. I exported in blender after making sure I wasn't in Edit mode and I selected both before I exported. Any other possible issues?

Actually, I think the armature is not a parent of the mesh...let me see if I can fix that myself rq

[inland seal]

doesnt work

[placid mural]

I don't know anymore, I'm sorry

[subtle sigil]

how to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

You cannot animate those transforms directly

[subtle sigil]

how to then?

i had this warning before and it seems like it fixed itself?

[somber sequoia]

You have to go through the animator parameters like Animator.Left Upper Leg Front-Back

[subtle sigil]

whaat

[somber sequoia]

And probably have to use VRC Animator Tracking Control to take over animation of those from the IK system

[proud lodge]

no luck :/

[somber sequoia]

(watch a tutorial on this, it's a bit complex the first time)

[limber oriole]

ow

how bad is the clipping?

better or worse?

[placid mural]

Hi, I have a problem. I wanted to make a folding phone and to open it I used the script Speed Calculator. But it can't be downloaded. Are there any substitutions?
Translated with the help of a translator

[limber oriole]

wai you can use scripts on avatars?

[somber sequoia]

what does it do?

[somber sequoia]

no

[limber oriole]

so howd they use a "script speed calculator"

[somber sequoia]

not all scripts are designed to stay on your avatar, some are just editor tools

[limber oriole]

ow

fair enough

[somber sequoia]

but I have no idea, which is why I asked what it does

[placid mural]

Counts speed and turns on animation when a certain speed is reached

[limber oriole]

ow

[somber sequoia]

you can use the various velocity parameters for that

[limber oriole]

i mean yo ucould just do that with valocity

• contacts

[proud lodge]

worse

[limber oriole]

ow

ok undo what i said

and try changing 1 option at a time to see what made it worse

[placid mural]

I am very weak in programming in C# is there any ready-made variant or example

[subtle sigil]

this disappeared for some reason but i can't change the values in the animation

[somber sequoia]

this is not a C# thing, you do this with the animator

[placid mural]

how?

[somber sequoia]

there are many many tutorials for animating

[glass condor]

Ok, anyone familiar with Blender to tell me what I did wrong right here? The mask is not on my face...

how do I attach it lmao

[junior void]

You didnt weight paint it

[proud lodge]

gravity

[glass condor]

ooooh my god, you came in with the clutch, I'll see if I can fix it by myself 🔥😭

[junior void]

I dont mind walking you through

[limber oriole]

so am assuming if its lower its worse?

in that case in crease it

by like 2 or 3

[proud lodge]

yes and the same for when its higher

[limber oriole]

ow

..

what are your current phys settings can u show me?

[proud lodge]

yea sure one sec

[limber oriole]

decrease the stretch

to 0.40

and increast stiffens to 0.109

that should make it better

[proud lodge]

alrighty

[limber oriole]

stiffnes should make it move less hopefully decreraseing the clipping

same for the stretch

[proud lodge]

still clipping :/

[limber oriole]

less?

[proud lodge]

no change..

[limber oriole]

bru

increase the stiffens more?

[proud lodge]

alrighty

[glass condor]

@junior void alright...how exactly do I do this? Because when I draw with the brush I don't see anything change...

[proud lodge]

still clipping :/

[limber oriole]

bru

hmm

no change?

[proud lodge]

unfortunatly not

[limber oriole]

hm

alrigh

honestyl

pull

igs

pretty sure if you decrease it

it will move less when moving

might be wrong though

[proud lodge]

ill give it a go

[subtle sigil]

my avatar is stuck in the motorcycle pose

but i didn't add any animations

[limber oriole]

in gesture manger?

[subtle sigil]

and ingame

[limber oriole]

ow

[proud lodge]

i dont get it still no change

[limber oriole]

try giving it a locomtion

[limber oriole]

BRU

why

the physbone

should be makign the clipping better

your edditign the right phys bone correct?

[proud lodge]

thats what i thought but for some reason when i put it into play mode it still acts and clips the same way

yea

[limber oriole]

hm

[subtle sigil]

it's gone??

[proud lodge]

only physbones there are for the left anf right breast

[limber oriole]

is your avi a humanoid?

[subtle sigil]

oh i just saw the problem

[limber oriole]

hmmmm

[junior void]

You dont actually need to use weight paint mode. Go into edit mode. Find the vertex groups. They will be on the right side panel where the small symbols are in a column. The one youre looking for is a green triangle. From there, find the vertex group called 'head'. Hit 'select' below it - that should light up some vertices. You must make sure you have nothing else selected or this will backfire. Now also select the vertices of your face mesh. The l key will help to select linked. I will repeat tho, do not accidentally select more, only what it lights up when you select the head group amd your mesh on the head - then hit assign and youre done

[limber oriole]

ngl only thing left i can think of is A contacting the creator you purchesed it from for assistnaces or B taking it into blender your self and adding a blend shape

[glass condor]

ok...like this?

[junior void]

The bottom

Ill add to my msg

[glass condor]

ah so this

[proud lodge]

alrighty ill shoot the creator a message, just that the top was from a different creator so not sure if theyll know how to fix it, but worth a try!

[junior void]

Yes

[limber oriole]

ow hmm

honestyly would have assumed that creator would have included a blend shape to fix clipping by deafult

but they prob didnt intend on ppl adding clothes to it

[proud lodge]

alot dont nowadays which is annoying :/

[limber oriole]

true

consoidering blend shapes take like 30 seconds to do

[glass condor]

ok,I got the head selected, what's next?

[junior void]

I edited my msg :)

To explain: vertex groups equals weight painting

So by hitting assign on a selection on a vertex group, youre assigning weight to the mesh, telling it to move with the bone which carries the exact same name as the vertex group

Theres a direct link here :)

[glass condor]

so is it L key by itself, or shift L? or...

[subtle sigil]

can i upload a new model and use the same animations?

it's the same model, but updated

[junior void]

If you hover your mouse over one vertice of your face mesh and just hit l, it will select all linked vertices

[somber sequoia]

usually - humanoid animations definitely. props and things, if the components are in the same place in the hierarchy, almost certainly

[junior void]

Thats the fastest but you can also hold shift and click every vertice on the face

Thats tedious tho

[glass condor]

it selected the ear. Is this safe 😥

[junior void]

Nope, ctrl z

[glass condor]

gotcha

[junior void]

It selects what your mouse is pointing at

The order also does not matter

[glass condor]

ok I pressed l and nothing else highlighted this time

[junior void]

You can select your face first and then the head group

Let me see to verify?

[glass condor]

there's also a random vertice on top of the head that wasn't selected, should I link that one too just in case?

[junior void]

Looks good

Thats your choice. Id leave it be as its probably assigned to ears but should it be?

This is where your own logic comes into play

Choices choices

[glass condor]

it might be attached to the ears, so I guess I'll leave it!

so, where's the 'assign' that I press?

[junior void]

In the vertex groups, have the head group highlighted in the list. The assign button should be right below it

[glass condor]

I clicked it

[junior void]

You can then test it by clicking off the mesh so nothing is selected and hit "select" on the head group. It should include your mesh now

If thats the case, youre done

[glass condor]

ah looks like it's all connected

[glass condor]

once again, you've saved me a ton of pain. Thanks !🔥🔥🔥

[junior void]

I been there, so dw about it. Keep learning, youre on a good path 🦾

[glass condor]

I'll keep on keeping!

[inland seal]

How do you open a unity file 😭

I cant cuz it says Unity Hub

Instead of Unity 2022.3.22f1

pleease

Im desperate

[somber sequoia]

what's a "unity file" here?

is it a .unitypackage or .unity (which is a scene)

[inland seal]

unitypåackage

[dark jay]

Cant separate the jacket from body

[somber sequoia]

in Unity, Assets -> Import Package -> Custom Package, select file

[inland seal]

ok

[somber sequoia]

so? That has no effect on this either.

[small valve]

how high is the performance impact if I use multiple "VRC Animator Play Audio"?
I have 10 Layers and each On/Off Animation is a int, and the int would also trigger this Behavior, so that the avatar also plays a small little audio like cloth sounds if you enable CatEars.

*How high is the performance impact, if I would apply this behavior for all of my 10 layers?

• And is there a more efficent solution for this?

[somber sequoia]

if you're using one audio source, this just triggers the audio, it shouldn't add any significant performance issues

obviously the more audio clips you have, the larger the avatar, and if you have them set to decompress on load (probably don't), it'll take longer for people to load your avatar.

[small valve]

I have 1 audio source, but 10 Behaviors on 10 different Layers. every layer is for another Item I want to equip.

[somber sequoia]

what are you trying to show me?

[small valve]

those audios are small as hell and just 1 second long.

[somber sequoia]

okay...

[small valve]

So, how big could be the avatar size impact based on this?
I just have more worrys about the usage of that many VRC Animator Play Audio Behaviors and that I use now Int instead of bool, to also use the same parameter in the PLay Audio behavior.

[somber sequoia]

seems like you could do the math as well as me, I was just pointing out things that can contribute to performance issues.

use that advice as you see fit

[small valve]

thanks

[delicate orchid]

hey can anybody help me rig some animation stuff to an avi? I have the animator open and im following a guide but im missing some params and dont know what to do?

[ashen junco]

How do i add a vrcavatardescriptor

[somber sequoia]

click avatar root, look in inspector, click "add component ", find that component

wow my computer got all laggy for a sec there

[wispy spear]

Don't know if this is proper area but I'll ask nonetheless, is there a free wickerbeast hoodie that can be easily edited?

[ashen junco]

wheres the avatar root at?

[wispy spear]

Click on your model, on the right side you'll see another menu, click "add descriptor" (or component, idk i dont have unity infront of me) and scroll to find avatar descriptor

[somber sequoia]

may I suggest you watch basic setup tutorials?

[ashen junco]

okey:)

[summer yoke]

would anyone be willing to help me ?? rlly wanna buy this avi but im worried i wont be able to upload it D: my first time doing anything like this

[wispy spear]

What model is it? If you'd like i could try uploading it for you (if allowed)

[summer yoke]

its a pc&quest avi by strawbunny! theres a listed 'upload order' but im a noob and none of it really makes sense to me ,,

im having a hard time wording my problems

the creator does paid uploads so its not a big deal if i cant manage this but i'd like to just so i dont have to worry about it if i buy from them again

[wispy spear]

Upload order???

😭

[summer yoke]

yeah!!

[wispy spear]

I've never seen that before-

Try finding someone who's uploaded another model by them to see if they can help

[summer yoke]

alr! thank u for ur time!

[stable igloo]

I'm editing a Manuka model (booth) and already changed the booba blendshape to what I want. However when I enter playmode or test it ingame, the booba size is not what I adjusted aka default size and I don't want to use the redial toggle in the default menu. How can I fix it?

[somber sequoia]

oh fascinating, an unlocking script.

[ebon bolt]

Modular avatar is not adding clothing correctly to my avatar

I dont know how to fix it

trying something to fix it

[somber meadow]

I'd recommend to highly stay away from avatars who use this "GonsoLicenser", this DRM prevent users from editing their avatars (Model File, FX layer, and Menus/Parameters) for the sake of "Anti Leaking" even though ripping and reconstruction can just negate that entirely.

It's insanely anti-consumer

[summer yoke]

jk figured it out

[somber meadow]

all you'll be able to do is upload the avatar and even then if the servers for this script goes down (gumroad licenser) you won't be able to even upload. You essentially don't own the avatar

[delicate orchid]

selfish request: can anyone hop into a call with me to help me figure out how to set up some props and animations? I dont have states on my animator I set up and cant find out where or how to get them

I have my avi rigged and everything already I just cant find good info on what im trying to do

[somber sequoia]

wow that licensing thing is ridiculous. I'd definitely be rebuilding the scene to remove that.

[somber meadow]

removing a major point of buying avatars (editing) for the sake of the avatar not being "Leaked" is insane

[glass condor]

Trying to upload an android version and I'm getting this error:

[junior void]

Id look at the console

[glass condor]

something about a pipe instance issue?

[junior void]

Horrible images <.<

[glass condor]

lmao I'm so sorry, lemme try again

[junior void]

Could you hit clear, try uploading again and show us the first 5 errors that are red, all the way from the top?

The bottom ones are always just telling you all the subscripts that failed, but the original issue will be at the top

[glass condor]

the one at the very top is telling me that all pipe instances failed, but I usually solve that one by waiting a few minutes, and it never gives me those two errors windows from the first pics.

so I'm not sure what's going on

[junior void]

Trust me just this once? XD

[glass condor]

it might be a vrc fury issue, but it tells me to just look at the before issue 💀 I would take a better pic, but idk how to screenshot on this computer.

Welp, might as well learn...

[wispy spear]

If it's a windows pc hit ctrl + shift + s

Or just look up your computer model for screenshots

[junior void]

Windows + s?

[wispy spear]

Wait windows s

Wtf have i been doing this whole time what

😭

[junior void]

I literally just guessed

Idk, im on phone

[wispy spear]

Oh

Nvm im

[junior void]

Someone try it

[wispy spear]

I'm slow

Nvm it's windows + shift + s

[glass condor]

@junior void This good?

[junior void]

Never seen that one but i know what io is. It makes me think you may have a potato pc. What are the other 5 errors?

[glass condor]

pfffft idk dude, I've uploaded avis before with no issues, it's just this one 😂

it's claiming that something failed to compile

[junior void]

What are you using vrcf for here? Anything fancy?

Any updates for it available?

[glass condor]

I just closed and reopened unity, let's see if that fixes it👀

It worked

kek

Thanks again! 🔥

[delicate orchid]

I cant move my prop under my avi rootbone?

[junior void]

Odd but hey if it works

[fleet linden]

hey is this a good place when for help? i have a problem on unity with an avatar

[upbeat quartz]

I have a GIANT contact on my avatar that I don't know how to get rid of, and it doesn't show anything in unity about it, help? ;w;

[somber meadow]

Do you use VRCFury on this avatar

[upbeat quartz]

Yeah

[somber meadow]

And a certain “system” that comes with VRCFury

[upbeat quartz]

No "system" on the avi