#avatar-general | VRChat | Page 13

pallid fable Sep 2, 2020, 10:28 PM

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@cobalt yew any progress on your drone prefab? The stuff you posted last week looked really promising :)

dapper hearth Sep 3, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Avatar 3.0 Hub is the new Avatar Testing

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It's full of children, too

rigid bronze Sep 3, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Is there something like Blender's Limit Constraint system for VRChat?

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I have a mechanical avatar that I need to limit rotations on or it starts doing funky stuff.

proven cargo Sep 3, 2020, 11:19 AM

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Lets say I have a dance on a toggle button. Is there anyway I can like change this to a radial slider thing and speed up/slow down the dance animation? or is that not a thing

cobalt yew Sep 3, 2020, 11:40 AM

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@proven cargo in the state in the animator under speed is a 'multiplier' parameter. hook that up to a float and then use a slider to change that float to speed up/down the animation :)

signal sigil Sep 3, 2020, 12:55 PM

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the only thing I would say you might want to be careful of is that if there is music associated with it, it will be out of sync

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and why is everyone obsessed over drones all of a sudden, its just parent constraints and movement animations with root motion on a 4 axis isn't it

sand wren Sep 3, 2020, 2:28 PM

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@rigid bronze ive made avatars that have clones of themselves using constraints on every bone on the body

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im sure if there is a limit its really high, but its likely that there isnt

neon finch Sep 3, 2020, 2:29 PM

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i

fluid grotto Sep 3, 2020, 4:22 PM

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@rigid bronze the component is just called Rotation Constraint

queen palm Sep 3, 2020, 5:27 PM

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is it possible to get controller position/velocity in any way?

fringe cobalt Sep 3, 2020, 5:29 PM

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No

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The only velocity items that are obtainable are your X Y and Z velocities

queen palm Sep 3, 2020, 5:32 PM

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oh

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would've been cool to make like a playable accordion with controller velocity for audio volume

eager horizon Sep 3, 2020, 6:17 PM

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damn thats a good idea

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the values are there

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we just need access to it

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that would allow us to do a lot of cool things

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locational triggers, like reaching to your back to draw a weapon, instruments, probably even touchscreens without any shader madness

verbal forum Sep 3, 2020, 7:47 PM

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are menus broken?

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for rift s controllers

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nvm

empty swan Sep 3, 2020, 9:22 PM

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is avatar size scaling fixed or not yet?

eager horizon Sep 3, 2020, 9:23 PM

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not yet

sharp terrace Sep 3, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Hey anyone know how to get danganronpa avatars on quest?

verbal forum Sep 3, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Anyone know why my emotes make my avatar float in the air

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Even the default emotes

real hatch Sep 3, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Can a skinned mesh that is toggled on have separate hand gestures?

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Like lets say you toggle on shoes and you can use a shapekey and apply it via hand gestures to make the shoes bigger?

signal sigil Sep 3, 2020, 9:44 PM

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if you set it up correctly

real hatch Sep 3, 2020, 9:44 PM

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so it is possible yes?

signal sigil Sep 3, 2020, 9:44 PM

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sure

real hatch Sep 3, 2020, 9:45 PM

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awesome ty

sharp terrace Sep 3, 2020, 9:45 PM

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signal sigil Sep 3, 2020, 9:45 PM

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I donno if a hand gesture is the best method to resizing shoes

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but

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if thats how you wanna do it

fluid grotto Sep 3, 2020, 10:09 PM

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That question is a little vauge. What do you mean?

verbal forum Sep 3, 2020, 10:51 PM

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i have no clue why server side my emotes make me float but on my screen they dont

tender spear Sep 3, 2020, 11:08 PM

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can you animate the viewpoint yet?

signal sigil Sep 3, 2020, 11:12 PM

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no

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soon (tm)

verbal forum Sep 3, 2020, 11:26 PM

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tm meaning tomorrow? @signal sigil

signal sigil Sep 3, 2020, 11:27 PM

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no I mean trademark

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its always "coming soon"

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4 months later

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???

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they haven't given a time frame, just they are working on it

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thats all we know atm

verbal forum Sep 3, 2020, 11:29 PM

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is anyone else experiencing a floating glitch with emotes

fierce vessel Sep 3, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Bruhbwehres the download

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How 2 download

livid timber Sep 4, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Could someone help me find an avatar?

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I had it but I somehow unfavourited by accident and now I don’t know where I could find it

proven cargo Sep 4, 2020, 1:22 AM

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@cobalt yew @signal sigil thanks! I'll try this.

Nah I have seperate toggles for the music. I was going to add separate animations at different speeds but thought sureley there's a better way to do this

soft pasture Sep 4, 2020, 2:11 AM

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@neon finch I can answer this, it's a yes. Tried to do that with my makers old model and into 3.0 and got some questionable results

warped dust Sep 4, 2020, 2:32 AM

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hey quick question is there any reason that my avi wont upload to 3.0?

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I can upload it with 2.0 but there are some issues with it

noble spoke Sep 4, 2020, 2:43 AM

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hi

real topaz Sep 4, 2020, 2:57 AM

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For thoes of you who know how the mirrior works i gotta ask - how does it render objects? is it 1:1 which the in game models, or am i just doing something wrong

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(in a mirrior im constantly clipping through the clothing i parented to my model, but in plain view im not)

sand wren Sep 4, 2020, 3:52 AM

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mirrors are basically duplicates of your avatar

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so is the third person model you may see if your head gets far enough away from your viewpoint

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some things like constraints and joints may seem to lag/stutter in mirror

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also why parent clothes? Just rig it to the character and then enable or disable the mesh

real topaz Sep 4, 2020, 3:59 AM

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rigging in blender is a bit messy for me, and has the possibiblity of corrupting the vicemes so badly the FBX file will crash unity if i try to import it into the assets folder. plus if i wanted to add new clothes to my model i would basically have to recreate it all over again, so i simply took this approach to test how it would work.

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works fine in plain view, but slightly lags behind in mirriors -- any way to fix this ? if any

mild lake Sep 4, 2020, 4:10 AM

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(in a mirrior im constantly clipping through the clothing i parented to my model, but in plain view im not)
@real topaz go into the clothes mesh in unity, then go to edit "edit bound " or something like that, then a white box over the mesh should pop up, augment the mesh box to the size of the avatar or a little bigger ( don't over exagerate ).

This occurs because mirrors occlude most things "out of your sight" if the bound of the mesh is small, then the camera+ mirror "think" that the object is out of sight and then dissappear the mesh for performance.

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This is mostly solve is the avatar is only 1 mesh, clothes+skin+accesories (and should be like this for performance). But if the mesh is separate from the "Body" you will require a little bit of tunning in the bounds.

real topaz Sep 4, 2020, 4:18 AM

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@mild lake the bounds in unity right?

mild lake Sep 4, 2020, 4:20 AM

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yes

real topaz Sep 4, 2020, 4:25 AM

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@mild lake would i simply need to make the bounds THICCER? is is there some special trick i should know?

mild lake Sep 4, 2020, 4:26 AM

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thiccer as the main mesh (body)

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no special tricks

harsh hull Sep 4, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Do some worlds break 3.0 avatars? Everytime I enter Tunnel (Music Visualizer) my avatar breaks and does not play any animations. No walk animation, no toggles, no emotes, only facial gestures that don't toggle audio sources.

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Well I guess after sitting in the world for a bit my avatar magically started working.. vrcAevSip
Not really sure what caused it but it always happens when I join the world. Friend that was with me experienced the same issue.

real topaz Sep 4, 2020, 5:14 AM

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@mild lake so i did increase the bound size (its even a bit bigger than the character model itself) but there seems to be no change in the mirriors. My model still clips through the parented (coat)

mild lake Sep 4, 2020, 5:16 AM

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you should re-rig your model

real topaz Sep 4, 2020, 5:21 AM

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is there something wrong with the rig that could be causing that?

mild lake Sep 4, 2020, 5:22 AM

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if you adding clothes the clothes and the skin should be rig together

harsh hull Sep 4, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Its a VRChat thing pretty sure. Constraints just dont update as fast in mirrors. You can see it as well with world constrained objects jumping around as you walk only in the mirror.

real topaz Sep 4, 2020, 5:23 AM

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oh, so its a "normal" problem?

harsh hull Sep 4, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Guess so. Only workaround is to just add the clothing in blender.

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I'd look into pumpkin tools as well if you need to transfer things like gameobjects, materials, dynamic bones ect from an older version of a model to a new one. Makes it very easy.

real topaz Sep 4, 2020, 5:25 AM

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alrighty, ill check it, thx guys

real topaz Sep 4, 2020, 6:35 AM

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Also, kinda found a stupid way to parent the clothing to the model, and it has no mirrior lag with this tecnique. (it kinda dumb thou)

rough bough Sep 4, 2020, 10:08 AM

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can i get avatars off the internet

austere sinew Sep 4, 2020, 10:10 AM

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yea but you will have to edit them most likely to make them work in vrchat

rough bough Sep 4, 2020, 12:22 PM

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ok

tawny forum Sep 4, 2020, 1:21 PM

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Is it possible to find any A certain Magical Index/Scientific Railgun/Accelerator avatars?

dapper hearth Sep 4, 2020, 2:22 PM

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What are the refresh rates or refresh tiers for each playable layer?

verbal forum Sep 4, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Are “hitboxes” just the shape of ur model

fluid grotto Sep 4, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Unless I'm misunderstanding the question, it's exactly once per frame. @dapper hearth

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In terms of checking if exit time has been met, and checking if conditionals have been met for transitions that don't have an exit time

dapper hearth Sep 4, 2020, 3:45 PM

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But there were some playable layers that get synced more frequently, I remember reading

fluid grotto Sep 4, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Ah syching, I thought you meant actual rate of calculation

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I have no idea :D

sand wren Sep 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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its on the docs what syncs the most quickly

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if its actively in ur action menu it syncs with IK

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otherwise it syncs with the under a second sync

upper remnant Sep 4, 2020, 5:24 PM

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and the average time is pretty much with ping

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100-200ms

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even sub 100ms is apparently possible

sand wren Sep 4, 2020, 5:28 PM

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well kinda

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ping is time it takes to send and recieve a request

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i assume with IK its just sending it as fast as possible

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so half the time of ping

upper remnant Sep 4, 2020, 5:29 PM

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i mean the playable sync rate, not IK

sand wren Sep 4, 2020, 5:29 PM

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ah

verbal forum Sep 4, 2020, 8:07 PM

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is there still no way to get chairs/seats on avatars yet?

merry swan Sep 4, 2020, 8:24 PM

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3.0 no

verbal forum Sep 4, 2020, 8:42 PM

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thanks for the update Thulen

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also does anyone know how hitboxes work

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does every avatar have the same hitbox size

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or does it vary

fluid grotto Sep 4, 2020, 8:48 PM

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What do you mean by hitbox? You mean the player collider?

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It shrinks depending on height

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Shrinks on x y and z

verbal forum Sep 4, 2020, 8:49 PM

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ohh

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is it on body

fluid grotto Sep 4, 2020, 8:50 PM

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No vrc adds it’s own to your upload

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You don’t get to see it but I beleive it’s a capsule

verbal forum Sep 4, 2020, 8:51 PM

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so depending on ur scale or?

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view point?

fluid grotto Sep 4, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Games like murder don’t use it they just make their own collider’s and follow people

rose zinc Sep 4, 2020, 9:03 PM

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So im trying to do something weird and i cant make it happen. I want to copy/multiply body parts of an avatar and make it so it has 2 extra of body parts, 4 arms, 4 ears, 2 tails etc how would i go about this? Trying to copy and paste doesnt make extra body parts show up

fluid grotto Sep 4, 2020, 9:24 PM

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You need to make the extra bones and arms in blender

rose zinc Sep 4, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Ah, shoot

floral rock Sep 4, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Why is Duplicate and Delete right next to each other in Unnity -> Edit. And no undelete.

craggy stump Sep 4, 2020, 11:46 PM

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undelete

thorny locust Sep 5, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Does anyone know where I find this avatar? I spend a whole day and still have no clue

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https://discordapp.com/channels/189511567539306508/390929309965090826/751617328768090152

sand wren Sep 5, 2020, 1:48 AM

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thats what Ctrl+D is for

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also Ctrl-Z

wicked coyote Sep 5, 2020, 6:55 AM

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mm!

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i got questions!

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where isss.. 1 sec

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VRC Avitar descriptor?

woven ice Sep 5, 2020, 7:01 AM

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i might be wrong but i think thast the code/setting that tells vr chat that is an avatar

wicked coyote Sep 5, 2020, 7:03 AM

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i need it

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like

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the download for it

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i cant upload models without it

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i need help finding it

visual dagger Sep 5, 2020, 7:04 AM

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it's part of the sdk in unity

wicked coyote Sep 5, 2020, 7:04 AM

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i've been told its independent

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it says i dont ahve it

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but i need it

visual dagger Sep 5, 2020, 7:04 AM

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you've been told wrong

wicked coyote Sep 5, 2020, 7:04 AM

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my friend told me i needed it o3o

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they create models o3o

visual dagger Sep 5, 2020, 7:04 AM

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if you have the sdk installed in unity, it's there

wicked coyote Sep 5, 2020, 7:05 AM

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course i cant send pics here

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i had a screen shot

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cause

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i have sdk

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but not the avatar thing

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/579584269723238400/751699619133653062/unknown.png

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i have sdk, i did every rule and thing, but the avatar thign was NOT included with the sdk

woven ice Sep 5, 2020, 7:06 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8KgUGVwBd_HjEGo6_5UriffNxLzyZeX- this might help you out

visual dagger Sep 5, 2020, 7:07 AM

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also this https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjmDHuhHH5ntRjqECGLONFQ

wicked coyote Sep 5, 2020, 7:11 AM

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let me try this

woven ice Sep 5, 2020, 7:17 AM

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good luck

wicked coyote Sep 5, 2020, 7:21 AM

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this is my first time messing with this stuff more intensly XD

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so i've got overll many questions that'll arise along the way XD

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atm trying ot learn how to merge skin meshes, mine has 20 which is over the max of 16

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so far the only vid i've tried is too old and uses something called a mesh baker which i dont se o3o

low whale Sep 5, 2020, 7:38 AM

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Importing packages into an av3 project that have sdk2 scripts won't break things permanently right? As long as you remove the offending components it's fine?

kind meadow Sep 5, 2020, 2:28 PM

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sooooo....limiting avatar arm movement

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is that something I'd need to look into the base animation for

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or something I should be solving with constraints

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I just want a character's arms to rest in a much higher position to avoid clipping

silver adder Sep 6, 2020, 6:19 AM

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You'd probably want to solve that with custom animations.

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Wow, this channel went 12 hours without a single message? Dang.

pallid fable Sep 6, 2020, 6:22 AM

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meanwhile #avatar-help is practically a constant stream lol

neon finch Sep 6, 2020, 3:03 PM

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This is crazy 🤯

cobalt yew Sep 6, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Does anyone have a link to that package for offline testing of 3.0 stuff?

kind onyx Sep 6, 2020, 5:10 PM

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how much would it be to get someone to make a model into an avatar? ive been trying nonstop and i stayed up till 4 am this morning trying to figure out how to get this avatar to work. Would it be expensive to pay?

wise panther Sep 6, 2020, 5:51 PM

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how do i use this to get more avatars

woven pecan Sep 6, 2020, 7:12 PM

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@cobalt yew this one? https://github.com/lyuma/Av3Emulator

neon finch Sep 6, 2020, 9:04 PM

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how do i remove a avatar from the vrchat servers? it wasnt uploaded fully the first time and i cant use it in game.

kindred jewel Sep 6, 2020, 9:08 PM

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There's a tab in unity to see your uploaded content

neon finch Sep 6, 2020, 9:09 PM

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yea but it only gives me the option to make it private or public

kindred jewel Sep 6, 2020, 9:18 PM

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There's an option to delete it as well

uneven yew Sep 6, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Any ETA on when "Build Local" is gonna be fixed? Have they mentioned anything?

neon finch Sep 6, 2020, 10:19 PM

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where do i find that option ?

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i dont see it anywhere on that page

uneven yew Sep 6, 2020, 10:29 PM

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@neon finch https://imgur.com/v9U8PXX

neon finch Sep 6, 2020, 10:35 PM

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yeai dont have those options

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hang on ill screen what i have

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https://imgur.com/a/IwPQsSH

merry swan Sep 6, 2020, 10:39 PM

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You delete in unity , not the webpage

neon finch Sep 6, 2020, 10:40 PM

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in unity there is no way for me to find it. for me it only shows on the webpage

merry swan Sep 6, 2020, 10:40 PM

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you just search for the name

neon finch Sep 6, 2020, 10:42 PM

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ok hang on im gonna try something then will get back to you. i just reseted my computer so i have to get unity back.

uneven yew Sep 6, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Open the panel like you were about to upload, but go into "Content Manager" instead of "Builder"

neon finch Sep 6, 2020, 10:50 PM

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that imgur photo was of the model uploaded using odds sdk and the latest verison of unity. not the supported version and the vrchat sdk. so i think those are the reasons why it didnt work.

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ill try that then get back to you if that works then hopefully i can get it uploaded fully and righ this time

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yay thanks now lets see if i can upload it right

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if this work i thank you from the bottom of my heart guys i have been trying to upload this avatar for almost 2 months now with no success.

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umm when using the vrchat sdk is it supposed to say vrchat odds sdk?

real topaz Sep 7, 2020, 12:52 AM

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is the dragging objects under the higherarchey, and using parent constraints the ONLY way to parent 1 object to another in unity?

frigid sun Sep 7, 2020, 12:58 AM

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@neon finch you’re using a modified unsupported SDK, use the SDK from the VRChat website

silver adder Sep 7, 2020, 12:59 AM

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is the dragging objects under the higherarchey, and using parent constraints the ONLY way to parent 1 object to another in unity?
@real topaz No, but it is the only way it will work correctly in mirrors in VRC.

real topaz Sep 7, 2020, 12:59 AM

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frick nuggets

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im having a bit of trouble deciding the best way to do toggleable clothing (shirts and jackets and what not). the way im thinking it need to be done is i create a peice of clothing in blender, and give it it OWN skeleton, and then when put into unity i parent each respective bone of the skeleton to my base model... The problem with this is that if i use parent constraints the mirror lags behind and show my model clipping through his clothing, and if i simply drag each of the individual the bones into the higherarchy in my armature, it works well and has no problem in the mirrors, but for EACH peice of clothing i would have to drage each individial bone into the higherarchy (clothing wrist to model wrist, clothing arm bone to model arm bone ect), before long cluttering up the higherarchy for my model, and that would suck. i dont know a better way to do this, any help?

neon finch Sep 7, 2020, 1:18 AM

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@frigid sun the sdk i was using was the sdk2 version for avatars. When i open then SDK control panel it said odds sdk and vrchat odds SDK.

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Got from the vrchat site itself

frigid sun Sep 7, 2020, 1:34 AM

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I promise you that the VRChat website would not provide Odds SDK

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Delete your VRCSDK folder and reimport the SDK

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Furthermore this is the 3.0 channel so it'd be under #avatars-2-general if you needed further help with anything you're doing

neon finch Sep 7, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Oh ok well i got rid of the sdk2 and got the 3.0 to see if that would fix the issues ive bern having.

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And i assure you the sdk2 i got from the vrchat site had odds on it.

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Is there already a tutorial on how to convert avatars 2.0 to 3.0 correctly?

merry swan Sep 7, 2020, 1:43 AM

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not much to convert, you only need to remove old descriptor if has a scene

neon finch Sep 7, 2020, 1:46 AM

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There is a lot to convert if you are not using a brush or robot avatar

real topaz Sep 7, 2020, 1:58 AM

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anyone got a better solution to my question up there?

merry swan Sep 7, 2020, 1:59 AM

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merge in blender, have its own material, swap that out instead

real topaz Sep 7, 2020, 2:00 AM

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i need a method i can add onto. if i have clothing that is fused to the model, every time i wanted to add new clothing i would essentially have to make a sperate model and reimport the model into unity (set up all the everything)

merry swan Sep 7, 2020, 2:03 AM

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thats what pumkin tools are handy for, copy all the settings to another

real topaz Sep 7, 2020, 2:04 AM

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[noted]

dapper hearth Sep 7, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Remind me what happens to animation controllers in the normal unity game object slot in VRChat?

neon finch Sep 7, 2020, 4:19 AM

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if i have avatar files that i need to delete and they are not on my computer nor in the vrchat servers, where would i find said files?

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fyi im using 3.0

sand wren Sep 7, 2020, 4:21 AM

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what

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if u didnt upload it and u didnt save it then where would it be

neon finch Sep 7, 2020, 4:26 AM

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i have no clue but it is interfering with the process of uploading everytime i try

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have yet to successfully upload the avatar even once

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always running into issues

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i have it up if youd wish to watch a screenshare ?

sand wren Sep 7, 2020, 4:34 AM

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whats ur trust rank

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and are you getting errors in console

neon finch Sep 7, 2020, 4:42 AM

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trust rank? and when im importing it to unity i get errors yea.

neon finch Sep 7, 2020, 5:57 AM

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if you mean trust rank in vrchat im the green one

verbal forum Sep 7, 2020, 7:14 AM

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Anyone know how to create gun shot animations

austere sinew Sep 7, 2020, 7:31 AM

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Easiest way would be using particle effects and a gun model with bones or blend shapes

fossil flame Sep 7, 2020, 10:17 AM

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Does the Action Menu work offscreen now? Somehow my avatar breaks whenever I go out of view of others and chnage values.

They don't see changes and sometimes my head even dissapears for them o.o

But somehow more and more avatars pop up with a normal bounding box and still update offscreen and somehow even some update - changed values - when someone joined afterwards.

What is this magic?

silver adder Sep 7, 2020, 10:35 AM

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Changing the animator settings to force disable the off-screen animation culling.

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Should be obvious but, that's a bad idea for performance.

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Change the culling mode on your avatars animator to "Always Animate".

fossil flame Sep 7, 2020, 10:38 AM

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Hmm maybe thats why I never touched that function. Thanks!

queen palm Sep 7, 2020, 11:52 AM

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it's so annoying how parameters are reset whenever you join a different world or even change safety settings

sharp path Sep 7, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Any idea why my avatars hair started spazzing out? I added two empty game objects to hold different sounds it uses, one being the normal set it starts active with, and the other being a kind of joke set. I made it so you can switch between them with a toggle in a submenu, and everything works fine, just for some reason the hair now spazzes

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I had this issue before on a 2.0 avatar, except it happened after making a gesture move the ears, turned out one of my dances was causing it somehow and had to remove said dance

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Never seen this happen from only adding audio though

neon fjord Sep 7, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Hello does anyone have any, or know an avatar world with, danganronpa avatars?

neon finch Sep 7, 2020, 4:46 PM

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yo lookin for madness combat series avatars
i tried doing the SFM model --> blender --> unity with vrchat SDK Technique
but it seems that my vrchat account is not old enough to do the build and upload thing from unity 😂

brittle siren Sep 7, 2020, 6:54 PM

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So there is no way to build and test local avatars with SDK3 right now?

upper remnant Sep 7, 2020, 6:59 PM

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@fossil flame @silver adder ideally, use animator designs that transition correctly even after someone occasionally culls your animations

uneven yew Sep 7, 2020, 7:40 PM

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@brittle siren From what I understand, no. It's currently broken, and I haven't seen an ETA on when it'll be working again

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Woah why did that send so many times, sorry

fossil flame Sep 7, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Thank you @upper remnant for your help in DMs!

For anyone in the future, here is the conversation summed up:

Q: Transition correctly means?
A: Synced parameters should be used so that people who missed your previous state changes will transition to the same state you are in. You can transition from any state using the synced parameter value as a condition.

Sidenote:
"any parameter listed in the parameter asset will sync when changed"

Q: Less buttons, more toggles then?
A: Buttons will change a synced parameter value as long as you hold the button. If you release the button, the value does not persist. For this reason, it is slightly trickier to make fully in-sync state machines using the button control. For many purposes you will likely prefer to toggle.

Q: 16 parameters is limiting then, isn't it?
A: Depends on the design of your state machine. One parameter can handle 255 unique values/states.

Important note:
"as long as you know exactly what state an int value should put you in, you can use the int to represent many boolean values, as if the int were a container for a set of on/off combinations"

zinc sparrow Sep 7, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Thats wut I made use of here
https://github.com/ImLeXz/2-for-2-Toggle-System-VRC-Avatars-3.0-

brittle siren Sep 7, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Thanks @uneven yew do you know any other way to export .avatars from Unity other than using VRCSDK?

uneven yew Sep 8, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Anyone know where I can find a downloadable "laying on back" animation for avatars? The only prone animations I can find are face down

bronze bone Sep 8, 2020, 6:21 AM

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what's different about making gestures for index controllers vs vive? i made an open hand animation but obviously with index open hand should just be idle/no expression. but it defaults to the gesture. how do i fix that so the model isn't constantly making that gesture?

sand wren Sep 8, 2020, 6:21 AM

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open hand is when you make an open hand on index

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like u open ur hand up

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so its not the idle gesture at all

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if ur holding the controller it should be on Idle

bronze bone Sep 8, 2020, 6:22 AM

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oh just realized i put this in the wrong spot xD and i realize it's when you make an open hand. but a lot of people just let their knuckles sit on their hands without holding them.

sand wren Sep 8, 2020, 6:23 AM

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i never do that personally cuz i sign and its more comfortable

woven pecan Sep 8, 2020, 8:32 AM

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@uneven yew you can't, because its for Full body users, just placeholder preventing from "prone" position

uneven yew Sep 8, 2020, 1:06 PM

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@woven pecan So I can't even do a laying on back animation as an emote action?

woven pecan Sep 8, 2020, 1:24 PM

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@uneven yew oh, in this way, you can. try to find it here https://www.mixamo.com/#/?page=1&query=lay

uneven yew Sep 8, 2020, 1:25 PM

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I tried to use a mixamo animation but it didn't work. Is there something I need to do to convert it?

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Didn't work as in, no animation occurred. I think the bones are slightly different, I'm not too sure how Mixamo names things.

woven pecan Sep 8, 2020, 1:29 PM

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press "Upload Character" button and upload your own .fbx file with avatar

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also there's a #avatar-help channel for questions, not this one

kind copper Sep 8, 2020, 2:16 PM

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hi

fluid grotto Sep 8, 2020, 4:02 PM

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You’ll probably need to set tracking control, to animation if you want to lie on your back in desktop, the default IK wants your legs in back of you when low to the ground

chrome goblet Sep 8, 2020, 4:21 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/659630509894271001/752372115847774218/image0.gif

real topaz Sep 8, 2020, 5:21 PM

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anyone know a good way to prevent (hackers) from ripping avatars?

silver adder Sep 8, 2020, 5:21 PM

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No, if you don't want something to be ripped, don't upload it.

real topaz Sep 8, 2020, 5:21 PM

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not a solution

silver adder Sep 8, 2020, 5:21 PM

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There isn't a solution.

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This game doesn't have any way to prevent that from happening.

real topaz Sep 8, 2020, 5:22 PM

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thats.....dumb, i take it the dev teams said nothing as well?

silver adder Sep 8, 2020, 5:23 PM

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This is a Unity engine game, it's trivial to rip assets from them. No matter what the devs do to modify things in an attempt to make it more secure.

fluid grotto Sep 8, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Need to simplify that a bit

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This is a video game, it’s trivial to rip assets from them

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If it can be rendered on your computer, it’s already on your computer. it can be saved

merry swan Sep 8, 2020, 5:26 PM

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I made an avatar thats local/uploaded, the local is much better detailed the one people see have really low textures scaled in gimp to 256x256 , not a solution just i find it fun to test , sure rip that its horrible low poly / low texture

real topaz Sep 8, 2020, 5:27 PM

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ok, with that being said, when they RIP ya assets, are they then able to edit thoes assets themselves?

silver adder Sep 8, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Most you can do is report someone if you see them using one of your private avatars.

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Yes, they can edit them.

merry swan Sep 8, 2020, 5:27 PM

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animations and some 3.0 menues break

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blendshapes dont translate well

fluid grotto Sep 8, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Yes of course you see that the VRChat has a lot of content from other video games right? Because models are insanely easy to obtain and when you have them you can edit them and do whatever you want with them. VRChat is no different.

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That doesn’t make it right, it’s against the rules. it just means it’s something you should expect

merry swan Sep 8, 2020, 5:28 PM

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unpack your local avatar and you can see the menus in 3.0 are a complete mess and animations break all their blendshapes

fluid grotto Sep 8, 2020, 5:28 PM

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There is absolutely no avoiding it

real topaz Sep 8, 2020, 5:29 PM

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is it possible in untiy to lock objects or assets from being deleted? so even on the ripped PCs unity the asset wont be able to be deleted/messed with?

fluid grotto Sep 8, 2020, 5:29 PM

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No.

silver adder Sep 8, 2020, 5:29 PM

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TL;DR, if you are paranoid about something getting ripped, don't upload it. Simple as that.

real topaz Sep 8, 2020, 5:30 PM

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then theres, whats the point of making it if im not going to upload it

silver adder Sep 8, 2020, 5:30 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

harsh hull Sep 8, 2020, 5:30 PM

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thats on you

merry swan Sep 8, 2020, 5:31 PM

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You relate to what you make, others who get will not at all , how i look at it.

fluid grotto Sep 8, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Like uploading art to a art website, anyone is free to download it and post it elsewhere. Even if the website tries to make it hard for the browser to download, it’s always going to be possible no matter what. Games are the same.

silver adder Sep 8, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Avatar stealing is not a very common thing. You shouldn't worry about it unless you know someone is specifically targeting you.

real topaz Sep 8, 2020, 5:32 PM

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i see.....hmmm, question, are most rippers pc (not vr) users?

silver adder Sep 8, 2020, 5:33 PM

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PC.

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Once your avatar finishes downloading and is added to their cache, it's on their system. It's just a matter of whether or not they want to rip the assets from the cache files.

fluid grotto Sep 8, 2020, 5:36 PM

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One thing I will say though is the more publicly paranoid you are about your content being ripped, The more measures you do to try and stop it, all you will do is make yourself a target to people who may do it just to get a reaction who otherwise wouldn’t even be interested in your content.

real topaz Sep 8, 2020, 5:36 PM

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hmm, so if i were to add a mechanical restriction to my avatar that PC users arent able to access, it would "deter" ppl? (just an idea)

fluid grotto Sep 8, 2020, 5:36 PM

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There a name for it

real topaz Sep 8, 2020, 5:36 PM

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lol wut

fluid grotto Sep 8, 2020, 5:36 PM

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The Streisand effect, I believe

silver adder Sep 8, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Like i said earlier, avatar ripping isn't common. It's usually done to troll people.

real topaz Sep 8, 2020, 5:38 PM

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fair enough

silver adder Sep 8, 2020, 5:39 PM

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The reason it's not common is because if the person uses those ripped assets in-game, they are basically putting a "hey mods, please ban me!" sign on their back.

real topaz Sep 8, 2020, 5:39 PM

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so thoes kinds of people getting banned is fairly common?

fluid grotto Sep 8, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Ripping isn’t common in general

silver adder Sep 8, 2020, 5:40 PM

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There aren't many people that do it to begin with for that reason.

real topaz Sep 8, 2020, 5:40 PM

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, i see

fluid grotto Sep 8, 2020, 5:41 PM

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My advice if you’re going to be one of the ultra rare people who actually make original content in VR chat and not just kitbashing, watermark your textures and wireframes. In ways that are hard to notice.

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If stolen, the copy is unlikely to see and remove it

signal sigil Sep 8, 2020, 7:41 PM

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fun fact

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a lot of models you see were derivatives of ripped assets

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its a sad fact

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and its not limited to vrc

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video games, second life, sims, imvu are also ripped from

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but like everyone said, the only way to make your model unrippable is to not upload it

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so uploading is accepting that it can happen*

silver adder Sep 8, 2020, 7:42 PM

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~~Way to revive to a conversation that ended 2 hours ago...~~

real topaz Sep 8, 2020, 7:43 PM

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XD

signal sigil Sep 8, 2020, 7:43 PM

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if it ended differently I wouldn't have

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but the last thing said was on subject

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people don't like it when I point out those types of things - is your conscience clear?

real topaz Sep 8, 2020, 7:45 PM

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i have no issue 😄

signal sigil Sep 8, 2020, 7:47 PM

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you know who I was referring to

nocturne creek Sep 8, 2020, 8:54 PM

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The closest you can get to an un-rippable model, is to build a local only test version.
I know one streamer who's done this, using the build test version option in AV3, to have an avatar that only them and their steam can see, whilst everyone else in game only sees the previous uploaded avatar they used.

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It's 100% immune to being ripped since it never leaves your own PC, and no one else ever sees or downloads it.
Obviously fairly worthless unless you're doing something like that streamer though.

fluid grotto Sep 8, 2020, 9:17 PM

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There's the solution. We should just make it so you can only see your own avatar! Now everyone is safe

bronze bone Sep 8, 2020, 9:50 PM

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does anyone have a tutorial on how to add custom walk/sit/crouch/prone animations onto an avatar? all tuppers "walkthrough" said was "it's complicated" but explained nothing.

scenic monolith Sep 8, 2020, 9:51 PM

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also to add what Maro is saying. anyone knows how to remove fall animition and make it track your body instead of flaile animation without breaking the avatar.

neon finch Sep 8, 2020, 9:55 PM

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I know I said this in help but I really need help

signal sigil Sep 8, 2020, 10:00 PM

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it never leaves their pc but they can use it online?

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how does that work

uneven yew Sep 8, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Everyone sees the last avatar they were using

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It's currently broken though

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Local test avatars don't load right now

signal sigil Sep 8, 2020, 10:32 PM

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.

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but they were using it online?

uneven yew Sep 8, 2020, 10:32 PM

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If you go online, only you can see it, everyone else sees your last real avatar

merry swan Sep 8, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Local avatar is also alot faster then uploading so its very handy to test things with

shut patrol Sep 8, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Can anyone make me an avatar as a commission

crimson bane Sep 8, 2020, 11:47 PM

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hey whould anyone be able to make mean inspector gadget avatar with some stuff to avatar im willing to pay up to 40

real topaz Sep 9, 2020, 12:18 AM

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@crimson bane just sayin, if the inspector gadget avatar has the ability to do ANYTHING inspector gadget can do, ppl are going to expect you to cough up a lot more than a 40.

signal sigil Sep 9, 2020, 12:28 AM

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especially if it is a personal avatar

crimson bane Sep 9, 2020, 12:29 AM

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@real topaz no its like a video that covers the people in the worlds screen

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That's what I meant @real topaz

real topaz Sep 9, 2020, 12:30 AM

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@crimson bane o, lol, even then ...well put it like this -- a base avatar with no special animatios, emotes or expressions is gonna run ya a 40

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or were you talking about a moving BOX with a video animation slapped onto it?

crimson bane Sep 9, 2020, 12:32 AM

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@real topaz o cuz some one did an avatar with a weapon and 3 voice files for 15 dollars

real topaz Sep 9, 2020, 12:34 AM

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guy must have been a friend, kuz making avatars is kinda time consuming , and difficult if you dont know how the system of it works. To have somone do an avatar like that for 15 dollars....well ya probly wont see that twice (like i said, you avarage, baseic avatar will run ya 30-40 dollars)

crimson bane Sep 9, 2020, 12:36 AM

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@real topaz that is a scam piece everyone I know has changed 20 for basic and 40 with extra features

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Just saying @real topaz

signal sigil Sep 9, 2020, 12:36 AM

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well then you should go ask them to do all of the complex 3.0 stuff then

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seems its a better deal

crimson bane Sep 9, 2020, 12:37 AM

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@signal sigil no its just a few creators I talked to in vrc not friends

signal sigil Sep 9, 2020, 12:37 AM

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is no one here a creator

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?

real topaz Sep 9, 2020, 12:38 AM

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lol, im able to make avatars (so im technically one?)

crimson bane Sep 9, 2020, 12:38 AM

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@real topaz hey may I ask something

signal sigil Sep 9, 2020, 12:38 AM

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I don't charge at all when I make stuff for other people

real topaz Sep 9, 2020, 12:38 AM

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askaway

signal sigil Sep 9, 2020, 12:38 AM

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but it is also at my discretion

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and my terms

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and I can end it whenever I want

crimson bane Sep 9, 2020, 12:40 AM

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There's a avatar I wanted uploaded from a site it just needs rigging and uploading is that possible or I'd have to pay 40@real topaz

signal sigil Sep 9, 2020, 12:40 AM

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if all you care about is basic uploading just learn to do it yourself

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its pretty simple

crimson bane Sep 9, 2020, 12:40 AM

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No it needs to e exported @signal sigil

signal sigil Sep 9, 2020, 12:40 AM

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yeah...

crimson bane Sep 9, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Off a site to unity to vrc@signal sigil @signal sigil

signal sigil Sep 9, 2020, 12:41 AM

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import, fix with cats, export to unity, add a descriptor and upload

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lots of videos can walk you through it in minutes

crimson bane Sep 9, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Am not doing that ok

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I want help

signal sigil Sep 9, 2020, 12:41 AM

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well then you might be able to get someone to do it for a few bucks

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sure

crimson bane Sep 9, 2020, 12:42 AM

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A guy did it for free

real topaz Sep 9, 2020, 12:42 AM

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yeah, things like rigging and uploading are fairly simple.

crimson bane Sep 9, 2020, 12:42 AM

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@real topaz whould I have to pay or what I'm guessing yes

real topaz Sep 9, 2020, 12:42 AM

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and i dont thinnk ur going to get anyone here to do it for free

crimson bane Sep 9, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Just exporting jesus spamming

real topaz Sep 9, 2020, 12:43 AM

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does the model already have a skeleton and stuff?

crimson bane Sep 9, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Should but might be a little broken here il link it to in dm

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i dmed u it@real topaz

urban dew Sep 9, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Anyone made a 3.0 tutorial?

signal sigil Sep 9, 2020, 1:18 AM

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not a comprehensive one

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but there are plenty

woeful finch Sep 9, 2020, 3:35 AM

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man so many things to do in 3.0 and im out of ideas

uneven yew Sep 9, 2020, 4:40 AM

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What might cause an animation to appear different on different people's instances of the game? I have my second computer set up now to test stations, and I still get different results doing certain animations on the player performing the action and someone else observing

soft crown Sep 9, 2020, 6:05 AM

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@uneven yew the one instance i know of is this https://vrchat.canny.io/avatar-30/p/bug-avatars-that-arnt-scale-111-get-shifted-when-playing-an-animation-such-as-wa

uneven yew Sep 9, 2020, 1:01 PM

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Ah, that's it. Guess I'll have to revert my size then

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Thanks again @soft crown

fluid grotto Sep 9, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Yeah do all overall scaling via model import scale (inspect fbx, rig tab)

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Never scale the root game object directly it always has various bugs

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Animations can often reset you back to 1 1 1 which will look silly

soft crown Sep 9, 2020, 4:19 PM

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i get around it by just scaling the armature object instead

supple idol Sep 9, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Hey! I have an avatar I would really love to make but I don’t quite know how to do it... DM me if you could help me out, please I need someone to make me this avatar!!

opal pond Sep 9, 2020, 5:35 PM

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With regards to the face, when should one use normal shapekeys and when should animators be used?

silver adder Sep 9, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Shapekeys are best for facial expressions as the edits you can do with them aren't limited by your rig, animators should really only be used for stuff like 2D faces.

opal pond Sep 9, 2020, 5:38 PM

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I see. Thanks for the clarification

uneven yew Sep 9, 2020, 5:53 PM

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@supple idol What's your budget? Are you providing a model or will one need to be created?

neon finch Sep 9, 2020, 8:40 PM

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So uh.. My friend and I were talking about the 3.0 avatars. We were wondering at what worlds you guys find nice 3.0 avatars? ^-^ For one that doesn't know where to look, where do you find them? ^-^ ❤️

fluid grotto Sep 9, 2020, 8:50 PM

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I don’t think anyone really advertises the fact that they are 3.0, most worlds I see are just a random mix as things get updated

icy vigil Sep 9, 2020, 9:06 PM

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So uh.. My friend and I were talking about the 3.0 avatars. We were wondering at what worlds you guys find nice 3.0 avatars? ^-^ For one that doesn't know where to look, where do you find them? ^-^ ❤️
@neon finch i know a world with some quality 3.0 avatars its called the shrinecone pinecone it has great avatars like pinecone, pine kon(but it's actually luigi), sprite coneberry, stick bug lol, golden stick bug lol, sike pinecon and a jpeg of herbert midgleys cover art for the song pinecone

fluid grotto Sep 9, 2020, 9:17 PM

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If a remote observer reaches a parameter driver behavior for a stage parameter, do they set the parameter themselves, or do they wait for my client to sync the new value?

fringe cobalt Sep 9, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Out of pure curiosity, are variables (Parameters) like VelocityX and VelocityY read only?

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I was thinking about lowering the max speed of an avatar while it is carrying a heavy object.

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(And not have to roleplay that speed with very sensitive Oculus controllers)

fluid grotto Sep 9, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I believe all of the internal parameters are read only

fringe cobalt Sep 9, 2020, 10:31 PM

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As I thought

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Man, I was hoping for a way to botch speeds

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I assume that would lead to speedy bois tho lol.

fluid grotto Sep 9, 2020, 10:31 PM

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I don’t think they are controlled by those parameters I think they are just data for the animators

fringe cobalt Sep 9, 2020, 10:31 PM

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That was what I was thinking too

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They just read the current value, and spit them to that Parameter

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So nobody gains a link to speed

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To later be exploited

fluid grotto Sep 9, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Well your speed is ultimately controlled by your place space... if SteamVR says you moved 50 meters in a second, VRChat just has to trust it

fringe cobalt Sep 9, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Yee

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I heard of people abusing that in playspace mover

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By linking movement to their stick

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But then you need to reset, and well

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Reset location = (actual movement + vrchat movement) - offset created in playspace mover

grizzled stone Sep 10, 2020, 12:06 AM

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is the process of updating the sdk still drop-in replacement? im currently on sdk version 2020.05.06.12.14

fringe cobalt Sep 10, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Ummmmmm

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@grizzled stone, was this during open beta?

grizzled stone Sep 10, 2020, 1:58 AM

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dont think so

real topaz Sep 10, 2020, 1:59 AM

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does anyone know why my character's legs are so close together? and how can i fix it?

vapid silo Sep 10, 2020, 3:10 AM

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they only have on leg

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one*

real topaz Sep 10, 2020, 4:18 AM

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no, their legs are by default close together, and even after walking the snap back close together

fallow sequoia Sep 10, 2020, 5:47 AM

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@real topaz if you make a custom tpose, the distance of the feet will be used as the "stance" distance.

silver adder Sep 10, 2020, 10:18 AM

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Huh, i always just used the "feet spacing" slider in the humanoid muscle configuration for that.

signal sigil Sep 10, 2020, 2:01 PM

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it sounds like the custom pose controllers can be used to override IK issues with certain idle poses....

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which might cause problems for people in full body

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I have a lot of wide stanced idle animations that never work right because of the issue p0werk1d is describing

sand wren Sep 10, 2020, 2:08 PM

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@silver adder most of the sliders in the humanoid config actually go completely unused and have no bearing on how it moves

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i.e. the eye range controls, the feet spacing, arm spacing...

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ik bc ive tried them plenty of times before and they didnt help any

silver adder Sep 10, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Actually, feet spacing has helped on quite a few avatars I've tested.

sand wren Sep 10, 2020, 2:09 PM

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ive never seen it do anything at all since it uses final ik

signal sigil Sep 10, 2020, 11:07 PM

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I can test hackspanner's solution later

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I have a lot of rpg character animation sets that never worked before because it would squish the feet inwards

last badger Sep 10, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Is there an icon pack or something for menu icons?

merry swan Sep 10, 2020, 11:21 PM

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pngrepo have tons of free icons

last badger Sep 10, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Ah thanks

real topaz Sep 11, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Can anyone tell me why my SHOULDERS start off rotated in game? my tpose is straight both in blender and in unity, but the moment i get in game my shoulders are slightly rotated forward, and this causes some weight paint issues. anyone got an idea?

neon finch Sep 11, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Anyone know some worlds where I can get some good loli avatars??

woeful lantern Sep 11, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Is there a way to take a model from my favorites list on vrchat?

eager horizon Sep 11, 2020, 12:27 PM

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no

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unless you want to get banned

neon finch Sep 11, 2020, 2:31 PM

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@neon finch does the quest have a desktop mode (with like windows 10 installed or something)? If so, install unity onto it and yeah use tutorials.

silver adder Sep 11, 2020, 2:33 PM

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You can't make content on the Quest.

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It runs Android.

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You'll need a PC to make content.

neon finch Sep 11, 2020, 2:34 PM

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oh ok

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I thought the quest had a pc mode or something, might just be streaming a pc

silver adder Sep 11, 2020, 2:34 PM

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It connects to a PC via it's charging cable.

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All that does is let you play PC VR games though, the game will run on the PC's hardware instead of the Quest itself.

neon finch Sep 11, 2020, 2:35 PM

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oh ok

last badger Sep 11, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Streaming is possible too via virtual desktop

fringe cobalt Sep 11, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Due to the low power of the quest, the most it could handle running smoothly of Windows 10 would probably be Windows 10 IoT

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And that is very limiting and condensing on itself

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Imagine... Windows 10 IoT running Unity

carmine pecan Sep 11, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Oh god... I can’t really see it supporting Unity

fringe cobalt Sep 11, 2020, 6:08 PM

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It has most of the call functions needed, it would just be Windows allowing you to run something that includes C++ calls on that distro

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If I am correct, it is similar to the Windows Go thing where it just prevents non C# (Windows Store) apps

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I would not imagine the UI being very intuitive being stuck in VR tho

carmine pecan Sep 11, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Yeah

fringe cobalt Sep 11, 2020, 6:10 PM

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hololens I am looking at you

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holoflop

lunar hull Sep 12, 2020, 12:20 AM

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https://youtu.be/UKaCBdyURYs

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someone make that into a avatar pls XD

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dm if u do XD

austere rose Sep 12, 2020, 2:03 AM

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@real topaz that s how the default pose is. You have to make your OWN animation if you dont want this rotation. The ik play a role probably as well.

real topaz Sep 12, 2020, 2:04 AM

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i have made my on for this , but when i turn certain things on my character standins in the pose i made, but when i move my head around he slides ithout moving his feet

neon finch Sep 12, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Can somebody let me clone the nutter avatar

remote echo Sep 12, 2020, 6:29 AM

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That doesn't really have anything to do with Avatars 3.0, so you're not really going to find help here. 🤷

neon finch Sep 12, 2020, 12:16 PM

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Can someone help me make the avatar 3.0 menu so i can move my hands with keyboard and mouse i can pay.

safe island Sep 12, 2020, 12:47 PM

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I guess I ask here
My character's nose is too big, and it blocks my vision when I stick the camera in his head. Any ideas how to hide it clientside?

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Its Louie from Pikmin btw

signal sigil Sep 12, 2020, 1:30 PM

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someone made a tutorial for desktop hand movement

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just go on youtube

neon finch Sep 13, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Avatar 3.0 is like a super sports car. It is incredible but few have it and none of them want to share with you the way to get there.

kind meadow Sep 13, 2020, 12:21 AM

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There's some good tutorials out there

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you just gotta experiment for an hour or two to really get your head around parameters and the animator

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now time for my own question

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has anybody found a reliable way to turn off dynamic bone colliders (I just want to be able to toggle the ones on the hands on and off), I very quickly found turning off the game object they're on doesn't work, I see there's a disable component keyframe you can mess around with but the toggle didn't seem to work on those it just made it so they never worked.

urban dew Sep 13, 2020, 1:53 AM

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cant use dynamic bones in this version of unity, help?

barren pier Sep 13, 2020, 2:05 AM

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What's the best way to setup chairs on an avatar with Avatar 3.0? I seem to have mixed results with chairs working.

neon finch Sep 13, 2020, 3:39 AM

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is there a way to get the default vrchat animations so I can add them back to my avatar 3.0 alongside my custom animations

late tartan Sep 13, 2020, 4:01 AM

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@barren pier chairs are broken for 3.0 avatars currently

neon finch Sep 13, 2020, 4:10 AM

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I'm looking for a riddler avatar?

uneven yew Sep 13, 2020, 4:38 AM

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I think the chairs are working on 3.0 avatars, as long as it's a 2.0 avatar that's actually sitting in one

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But you have to have them disabled by default and flipped on with a toggle

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Any stations on your avatar at start up get broken

eager horizon Sep 13, 2020, 8:12 AM

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@neon finch I mean thats a weird comparison. Would you just share your expensive ass sports car with someone irl? I sure as hell wouldnt.

leaden crest Sep 13, 2020, 9:17 AM

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I want a super sports car :(

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toggling the dynamic bone component should work as I've done it myself. They may be something wrong with the way you're handling the conditions/states

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@kind meadow

kind meadow Sep 13, 2020, 9:19 AM

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yeah I did figure it out eventually, should have posted an update

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disabling the empties doesn't work and you need animations for enabling and disabling the hidden parameter on the collider for it to work

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I did get there though

leaden crest Sep 13, 2020, 9:20 AM

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Alrighty sweet

sand wren Sep 13, 2020, 10:01 AM

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yea you don't turn off the object wit the script

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that makes it behave strange when it turns back on, especially if it wasnt in the idle state

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turn off script itself

rancid light Sep 13, 2020, 11:24 AM

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Hey guys, so I have an issue where some shape keys are altering an unwanted part of the mesh. I've made this mistake before and it's usually resolved by selecting the shape key, going into edit mode, selecting the vertices I don't want, pressing Ctrl + V and then clicking Blend from shape, which removes those vertices from the shape key

But for some reason this just isn't working, I can clearly see the mesh moving when I test the shape keys, but when going into edit mode while selected on the keys, that same part of the mesh doesn't do anything, even if I Blend from shape it makes no difference. How can I fix this?

leaden crest Sep 13, 2020, 1:01 PM

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Zak it's propagate to shapes, not blend from shape

rancid light Sep 13, 2020, 2:50 PM

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So it is, thanks 😂 guess it changed in Blender 2.8

pure wharf Sep 13, 2020, 4:10 PM

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nah avatar 3.0 breaak MMD Worlds xd

fringe cobalt Sep 13, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Eh?

pure wharf Sep 13, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Eh?
@fringe cobalt on MMD Worlds you are always in seat position

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against dance

fringe cobalt Sep 13, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Oh, I see

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Yeah, I suppose it is for custom animations, as they do not support overriding

pure wharf Sep 13, 2020, 4:37 PM

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what if I delete sit pose in 3.0 🤔

fringe cobalt Sep 13, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Still no

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As it would be calling for the wrong location

pure wharf Sep 13, 2020, 4:38 PM

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ok

sand wren Sep 13, 2020, 6:17 PM

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@rancid light its always beeen that way

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blend from shape is to copy shape key data from one to another

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shape propogate sends that data across to all blend shapes

rancid light Sep 13, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Ah okay, I've always used blend from shape and it's worked well, never knew about propagate but it's useful 😄

sand wren Sep 13, 2020, 6:30 PM

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blend from shape good when u wanna do something like visemes or make only one eye blink in an animation where both do

verbal forum Sep 13, 2020, 6:35 PM

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are pmd files not usable for models

sand wren Sep 13, 2020, 6:36 PM

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unity only accepts .fbx and .blend and .dae and .obj and ...

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.dae has no blend shapes, .obj has no rigging, .blend is usually a bit big

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export to fbx

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and also make sure the rig and etc are all appropriate

grizzled acorn Sep 13, 2020, 8:54 PM

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.blend
TIL

grizzled acorn Sep 13, 2020, 9:29 PM

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TIL that you could save your .blend and slap into unity and it'd work

cobalt yew Sep 13, 2020, 9:43 PM

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it's more that internally unity runs blender to autoconvert a blend to a fbx/workable format @long atlas (while importing if you open your task manager you'll actually see it running blender to do this)

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That's also one of the reasons why you can't import new blend files if you don't have blender installed on that machine.

sour basin Sep 13, 2020, 10:21 PM

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For a menu control, for example 2 axis controller, is there a way to set it and leave it on its setting in game? Because when you back out of the menu, the axis goes back to neutral, but i want to set it and leave it there.

verbal forum Sep 14, 2020, 1:27 AM

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How do you stop a dynamic bone from affecting something within the higher archy

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Like for example a tail having a dynamic bone but not having the spikes on the tail have one

sour basin Sep 14, 2020, 1:28 AM

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*hierarchy

verbal forum Sep 14, 2020, 1:31 AM

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what do u mean @sour basin

sour basin Sep 14, 2020, 1:32 AM

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higher archy -> hierarchy

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no idea what you need help with, what you said makes no sense, but at least know the word hierarchy

verbal forum Sep 14, 2020, 1:33 AM

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I just wasnt thinking

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no need to be rude'

sour basin Sep 14, 2020, 1:33 AM

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ehh not being rude, just telling you how i see it

verbal forum Sep 14, 2020, 1:33 AM

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right

sour basin Sep 14, 2020, 1:34 AM

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i could probably help if i knew what you were trying to say

verbal forum Sep 14, 2020, 1:35 AM

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I am trying to stop a dynamic bone from making all the children in the hierarchy from being dynamic as well

sour basin Sep 14, 2020, 1:36 AM

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impossible, you need to add a separate dynamic bone script for each one in that case

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well actually try the exclusion section

gilded mason Sep 14, 2020, 1:38 AM

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yeah actually you can put the dynamic bone script on the base of the tail, then set the bones that the spikes are weight-painted to to be exclusions

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problem solved

sour basin Sep 14, 2020, 1:39 AM

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yeah never used exclusions, just tried it

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works

wanton jolt Sep 14, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Quick question. Is Avatars 3.0 still in beta and can I use it in game to show off an avatar?

gilded mason Sep 14, 2020, 1:42 AM

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pretty sure its been out of beta for a while

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if you uploaded a model during the beta, you'll have to reupload it so it shows up correctly on live

wanton jolt Sep 14, 2020, 1:43 AM

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Ok. Thank you for lettings me know.

sour basin Sep 14, 2020, 1:43 AM

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still looking for an answer to my question, it's kind of out of view now: https://discordapp.com/channels/189511567539306508/730948141196509297/754829080041619608

verbal forum Sep 14, 2020, 2:10 AM

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@gilded mason how do you weight paint them

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to be exclusions

gilded mason Sep 14, 2020, 2:13 AM

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you dont weight-paint them

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they should be painted already?

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do your tail spikes have bones for each spike?

white mesa Sep 14, 2020, 2:14 AM

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just beginning to migrate from Avatars 2 to 3

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and man am i having a rough time

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the basic setup being easier fooled me into thinking the new features would be easy to pick up

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vrcSkull

verbal forum Sep 14, 2020, 2:15 AM

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look in #avatar-help @gilded mason

uneven yew Sep 14, 2020, 4:33 AM

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I decided to map out eyes and mouth to separate hands for my most recent avatar instead of just doing whole facial animations and it feels like a new world has opened up. With the right choices of each you get like exponentially more expressions. This has been a wonderful discovery for mutes everywhere

opal pond Sep 14, 2020, 5:21 AM

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My avatar already has a big texture for the eyes+face, but I would like to add a second iris texture. Would I copy the entire face material and just edit the eyes, or somehow isolate the iris and mesh into a different material file?

sand wren Sep 14, 2020, 5:33 AM

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you can edit the same texture unless its supposed to have a different shader

tulip thunder Sep 14, 2020, 8:11 AM

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@sour basin what if you close the menu via the menu button? Does it stay?

sour basin Sep 14, 2020, 8:25 AM

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@tulip thunder im testing on desktop mode right now, the only way to exit is to click or press escape, but I got a tip that I should disconnect the exit transition on the animation/controller/whatever, haven't tried that yet

white mesa Sep 14, 2020, 8:29 AM

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doo doo doo added a keyboard from a public resource time to upload the mode-

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wait why is the material count 94

tulip thunder Sep 14, 2020, 8:30 AM

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vrcInvitereq Quick Feedback to the Team:
I spent all weekend trying out AV3, and it's been great!

Utilizing the Unity animators is a great step in the right direction and enables a lot of options to express yourself and make your own game character.

I'm a game developer myself, and I had experience with Unity Animation Controllers, so I had no issues there.

The few problems I had are already in the Canny, so I'm sure you guys will get to it eventually. Well... Thanks for your work!

eager horizon Sep 14, 2020, 9:07 AM

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So rare to see people actually commend the devs for the good stuff

elder meadow Sep 14, 2020, 9:50 AM

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Im thinking about getting into making character models for vr chat and taking commissions. is there much of a market for that? I haven't done any models for the game yet but i do specialize in 3D art. https://twitter.com/NWilly_Art

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that or creating environments

eager horizon Sep 14, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Theres a good market for it. People are willing to pay pretty fair prices too

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@elder meadow but theres a big difference between making renders and making game ready assets. How experienced are you with that

elder meadow Sep 14, 2020, 9:57 AM

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for sure i just dont post realy any game assets on my twitter. i have an understanding just not my main gig

eager horizon Sep 14, 2020, 10:04 AM

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Well other than that just get the hang of some unity stuff and you will be fiiine

elder meadow Sep 14, 2020, 10:06 AM

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Cool cool thanks

eager horizon Sep 14, 2020, 10:08 AM

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May your polycounts be low and your normal bakes clean.

alpine willow Sep 14, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Made my day.

uneven yew Sep 15, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Is build local working yet?

plain quiver Sep 15, 2020, 12:47 PM

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heya looking for a plague doctor avtar? anyone know where to find one? :b

wanton atlas Sep 15, 2020, 12:53 PM

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do lolathon hate the 3.0 update ?

verbal forum Sep 15, 2020, 3:44 PM

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anyone know where to find demon/dragon wings models

marsh haven Sep 15, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Does Viseme Blendshape now allow you to use the parameter or do I still have to use only parameter https://i.imgur.com/AihjQfo.png

glad kayak Sep 15, 2020, 5:43 PM

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You shouldn't use any of the blendshapes you "give" to the descriptor for animations or anything.

fluid grotto Sep 15, 2020, 7:30 PM

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I animate the eyes with the same blend shape, I just turn off eye tracking first. Otherwise you can freeze it mid blink and your copy will overdrive it

marsh haven Sep 15, 2020, 7:44 PM

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@glad kayak I meant it more as in can i use the that option for the blendshapes and still be able to use the Viseme int = 1 condition

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As in will it detect it

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I remember in the beta you couldn't but i'm not so sure atm

frozen bronze Sep 15, 2020, 8:22 PM

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did vrc did an update? legs on all models dont move at pelvis anymore both on avatar 2.0 and 3.0

real topaz Sep 15, 2020, 8:24 PM

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anyone know how to flip the normals of a sphere in unity?

frozen bronze Sep 15, 2020, 8:25 PM

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maybe i just never noticed because i always use a avatar with skirt, and i just noticed it with a bikini model

real topaz Sep 15, 2020, 8:27 PM

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anyone know how to do it?

real topaz Sep 15, 2020, 8:47 PM

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im tying to make a thing where when inside of it (sphere) you see text thats only visible from the inside, is there any simple way to do this?

lean mountain Sep 15, 2020, 8:47 PM

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i think if you scale the sphere -1 on an axis

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or you could use a shader that allows you to change 'culling mode'

real topaz Sep 15, 2020, 8:48 PM

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ok, ill try it, thx

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@lean mountain so i did that, and no matter what i do the text is visible from the outiside, but not from the inside, i switch the culling mode and it stays that way, if i turn the culling off i can see it both from the in and outside,

lean mountain Sep 15, 2020, 8:56 PM

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do you have the text separate as a thing

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or was it part of the texture

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of the sphere

real topaz Sep 15, 2020, 8:57 PM

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the text is an overlay immage, right now im using a shader

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its technically part of the sphere

lean mountain Sep 15, 2020, 8:59 PM

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i think the shader is causing it to show up outside of the sphere then

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maybe you can do something about the rendering order

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it seems the text is rendered on top of the sphere at all times

real topaz Sep 15, 2020, 9:01 PM

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do i have to delete something

lean mountain Sep 15, 2020, 9:02 PM

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dunno man, sorry

real topaz Sep 15, 2020, 9:03 PM

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all guud G, thx for tryin 😄

real topaz Sep 15, 2020, 9:46 PM

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would you happen to know the best shader for adding screen overlay images or whatnot?

lean mountain Sep 15, 2020, 9:48 PM

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no 😉

real topaz Sep 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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i wonder if i got it right, but unity siply just dosent show the same as it is in vrchat

real topaz Sep 15, 2020, 10:34 PM

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So i tried to just create a sphere in blender, i flipped the normals on it and then exported it into unity. I applied a "cancer" shader so i could only see the texture from the inside.....I STILL can see it from the OUTSIDE!

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i cant even with this... I can make the texture invisible from the INSIDE , but NOT the outside...!

fluid grotto Sep 15, 2020, 10:58 PM

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What shader are you using

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And I would recommend just opening it in blender selecting all the faces and running “flip normals”

real topaz Sep 15, 2020, 11:11 PM

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@fluid grotto i did exactly that. also im trying to use the "redmage" cancer shader

fluid grotto Sep 15, 2020, 11:12 PM

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I don’t know anything about how that shader works, nice name

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My guess is the shader is very smart and is flipping the normals for you even when you reverse its scale

real topaz Sep 15, 2020, 11:12 PM

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im trying to make a prompt to where there is an invisible sphera attatched to my hand, if somone moves there head/amera inside of the shader they see a message/picture, but anyone outside of the sphere wont be able to .

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the wayits owrking right now is anyone outside of the sphere can see the message if they are looking in the direction of the sphere,, even if i put back face culling just to font

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found some sort of a workaround

silver adder Sep 16, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Finally got Dynamic Bone, that'll be nice to have for a couple of my avatars.

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And i can see the performance ratings on those avatars dropping now...

karmic halo Sep 16, 2020, 2:11 AM

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is their an easy way to remove hair avatar on blender

alpine willow Sep 16, 2020, 2:12 AM

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@karmic halo #3d-modeling

tough elbow Sep 16, 2020, 2:29 AM

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i like Dynamic bone i can play with my whiskers.

sand wren Sep 16, 2020, 2:33 AM

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i like it when people dont go overboard with colliders and dynamic bones

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with the only exception being jiggle toes with colliders

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those are fuckin great lmao

tough elbow Sep 16, 2020, 2:39 AM

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furry avatars do a good job on it

eager horizon Sep 16, 2020, 8:25 AM

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They fucking dont lol

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Most furry avatars are fucked when it comes to performance because people make literally everythong dynamic

winged bridge Sep 16, 2020, 8:28 AM

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This is just a general issue with the community. It's not really one sub category in specific. A majority of the population are not that technically inclined, I've found (results may vary), so they do not bother with optimization nor do they understand the importance of it and how much certain parts of their avatars cost computationally.

eager horizon Sep 16, 2020, 8:30 AM

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Its the only part I hang around in so I cant make opinions on thenothers

winged bridge Sep 16, 2020, 8:32 AM

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I run into a bunch of different types of users. I get around. I find TDA/MMD models to be a pretty big offender when it comes to dynamic bones/other general poor performance since most users just do a quick port of MMD models which have long bone chains and a lot of materials

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I do know the lexichi is pretty poor performance wise which I do see a lot. idk how I'd approach optimizing that since cats likes to do some funky stuff

smoky vine Sep 16, 2020, 8:41 AM

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I hope my models are well optimized haha if not I want people to let me know xp

winged bridge Sep 16, 2020, 8:42 AM

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The SDK tells you if they are or not and what you're doing to worsen it's ranking. I try to shoot for medium or better. Most of my newer avatars are all good performance.

eager horizon Sep 16, 2020, 8:51 AM

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@winged bridge the lexichi is barely used now. Theres the rantichi and zoichi which are 1 material and good performance stock but people slap mmd assets on them and destroy the performance

winged bridge Sep 16, 2020, 8:52 AM

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🥴 rip lexichi I guess

eager horizon Sep 16, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Its outdated and pretty badly made

winged bridge Sep 16, 2020, 9:01 AM

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The design wasn't bad. It looked good and offered a good amount of customization but it wasn't really designed to be put back into blender which is what I'd fault it for

eager horizon Sep 16, 2020, 9:12 AM

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@winged bridge the new bases have the same design. And way more customization. Its all done trough shape keys now though so no need for new meshes

winged bridge Sep 16, 2020, 9:12 AM

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oh cool. That's smart

lean mountain Sep 16, 2020, 11:02 AM

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it would've been better to be able to have the eyemovement be separate from 'Eyes & Eyelids' in the VRC Animator Tracking Control. I just dont want the lookup, lookdown and blink to mess with gestures when they are active, but it still would like to have eyemovement...

loud arrow Sep 16, 2020, 3:15 PM

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When we can get avatar remeasure state?

merry swan Sep 16, 2020, 3:48 PM

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When local avatar is fixed i guess

fluid grotto Sep 16, 2020, 4:20 PM

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I just want an internal parameter for detecting desktop, three, four or six point tracking

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Because some animator tracking controls need to behave differently depending

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Maybe just int TrackedPoints with a value of 0, 3, 4, or 6

silver adder Sep 16, 2020, 4:22 PM

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I target at least medium performance on all my avatars, i start removing things if it go's under that.

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Nobody likes to be perf-blocked.

fluid grotto Sep 16, 2020, 4:23 PM

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mine are all excellent if 32000 or under, otherwise good overall. I can’t seem to ever manage to make it go medium

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Except quest. All my quest avatars are medium

silver adder Sep 16, 2020, 4:23 PM

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I usually some some extra features (or a few materials too many) that always makes mine medium.

fluid grotto Sep 16, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Yeah I play UV Tetris a lot to keep mats down heh

silver adder Sep 16, 2020, 4:24 PM

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There isn't much i can do about the materials sometimes, if i remove too many then it breaks the look.

fluid grotto Sep 16, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Manual atlassing and rebake is OP

silver adder Sep 16, 2020, 4:25 PM

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I purchased Dynamic Bone yesterday, so that's also a factor in my performance rating on a couple avatars now...

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I'm trying not to go overboard with them, i start cutting back on the number of bones affected in the chain if the rating starts getting bad.

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None of my main avatars are under the medium rating, and I'm trying to keep it that way.

fluid grotto Sep 16, 2020, 4:32 PM

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You can also merge bone chains in blender if they are not needed

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"umbrella" style bone structures are uncessary and can be merged to a single chain going down their average location

silver adder Sep 16, 2020, 4:33 PM

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In this case, it's hair bones i was working with, so that's not much of an option if i want it to look at least somewhat natural.

fluid grotto Sep 16, 2020, 4:34 PM

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yeah i mostly refer to MMD dresses

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I see people slap dynamic bones on those and they kill frames

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hair isn't really that bad in comparison

silver adder Sep 16, 2020, 4:35 PM

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I think the avatar i put them on has like, 16 affected bones? Whatever the number was it wasn't enough to turn it medium, it's the collider i had to put on the upper body to keep the ponytail from clipping that made it medium...

fluid grotto Sep 16, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Without seeing the avatar that does sound a little overboard, but it depends on length of the chain i guess

silver adder Sep 16, 2020, 4:36 PM

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It's Zero Suit Samus.

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You would know what I'm talking about if you've seen her huge ponytail.

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The ponytail has a chain of like, 8 bones i think.

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Then she has some hair on each side of her head with a chain of 5 bones each, but i cut 1 of the bones on each chain off because it was causing bad clipping issues.

quaint crane Sep 16, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Hey can I get some help?

verbal forum Sep 16, 2020, 10:10 PM

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is there a particle tutorial for 3.0

quaint crane Sep 16, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Ok thank you

neon finch Sep 16, 2020, 11:47 PM

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It will resolve most of vrc perfomance problems

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People just think its funny to make 23+ materials on model that has just panties and bra

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And its literally what i see every day, no one even tryes to make avatar more optimised

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Hitting space and typing "join" is not a pro skill

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Its joining meshes in blender

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Its a ton you can actually do just spending one more day

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Yes it is true. It will be non destructive optimisation

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There are enough allowed dynamic bones

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I can make ears tail and boobs dynamic, and there will be enough to have some good rigged hairs to have dynamics

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also please carefully read my messages, i think optimisation should be measured in average render time automatically

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Its not a rocket science too.

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This tools are actually exist and they are cheap

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Well you know, right now there are only few creators that do care and have interest in optimising, or doing actually good red avatars.
Most mass of red avatars is just tda frankenstein lag dumbsters

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With really unnecessary polycount that not affects any quality, or person was just too lazy to re uv model and bake new atlass - model just uses bunch of textures with 90% empty uvs

neon finch Sep 17, 2020, 1:56 AM

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You know everyone just like "nothing will happen just because of my avatar being critically unoptimised" or "ahaha rofl lol i made nanachi 4x subdivided and its 400k poly now"

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And, most important people doing like that just make others pay for new hardware, so instead of 10$ for one slot you pay 1000$ for new pc

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And you know there are good avatars. And literally red cubes, vrc safety does no any difference. So just using safety blocks even beautiful avatars. So mabe its good idea to have red avatar worthly of paid slot?

craggy stump Sep 17, 2020, 2:13 AM

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personally, im not lazy when making my avatars, but i also dont know how to do a lot of the advanced stuff. i also dont make mine from scratch, and i choose my avatar parts wisely

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so if something has a high poly count

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i conciously made that choice

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if i knew how to model in blender and do stuff in unity to produce something i consdier to be on par with the current avatar parts i have available, i would do it

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then i could make stuff more optimized for sure

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having to pay $10 for an avatar slot would personally ruin the whole premise of playing vrchat for me. now, if there was an option to pay $10 to use red avatars, thats another thing

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but im still against that

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i love being able to make any avatar you want in this game

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there are already options to limiit what you show if something is too laggy for you

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imo thats enough for now

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if people want a different experience with the game, and want to see the red avatars for example, they should prob invest into a better pc for an overall better experience. now i dont disagree that many red avatars can be optimized to be much better, but i personally am not gonna speak for others on this matter.

neon finch Sep 17, 2020, 2:26 AM

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If you dont want to learn shrinkwarp retop, uv and baking its not a reason for others to pay for your avatar right?

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Usually any mesh can be optimized even without retop

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You just shift- click and dissolve loops

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If you dont want to learn you can afford paid slot if you think your avatar is so cool to wear

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Theres also lots of automatic solutions that are one click

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At least in past time where was a hard limit people actually tryed to fit their creations to sane numbers

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You know its modern time you have really cool blender that makes any insane reverse pipeline non destructive

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I could not even imagine i could just edit rigged model 5 yrs ago

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Without having my model explode

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You can just re uv your meshes, optimise them and hit weight transfer button

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And model will be just fine

craggy stump Sep 17, 2020, 3:03 AM

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no one has to pay for anything

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ill def try to learn more about what it means to optimize avatars

neon finch Sep 17, 2020, 5:46 AM

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i understand that optimisation is boring part, but it will make game run alot faster. i clearly see lots of avatars that can be 5 drawcalls instead of 20+ and 70k instead of 300

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and i mean no quality loss here

craggy stump Sep 17, 2020, 6:01 AM

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what are drawcalls

neon finch Sep 17, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Its (jp) dora coru(ll)

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Call for a dragon

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You should respect dragons and dont annoy them with lots of calls

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By reducing number of meshes and materials

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ドラコル

foggy pelican Sep 17, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Okay draw calls are sent by the CPU to the GPU that basically tells the GPU what it should render on the screen. Having more draw calls stresses the CPU quite a bit.

neon finch Sep 17, 2020, 6:07 AM

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And dragons

foggy pelican Sep 17, 2020, 6:07 AM

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dragons?

neon finch Sep 17, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Yes

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I explained it above

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You should not stress dragon for your own good

foggy pelican Sep 17, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Don't believe I've heard it called or referred to as a dragon before.

neon finch Sep 17, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Just katakana it

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And youll get "call for a dragon"

foggy pelican Sep 17, 2020, 6:09 AM

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hmm I don't think that's right.

craggy stump Sep 17, 2020, 6:09 AM

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@foggy pelican ty

neon finch Sep 17, 2020, 6:10 AM

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hmm I don't think that's right.
@foggy pelican no its relatively correct

foggy pelican Sep 17, 2020, 6:12 AM

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The issue is I've never heard of "call for a dragon" used for performance, optimization, or game rendering at all. As dragons are mythical creatures not something related to performance. Unless there's something I don't know about it.

craggy stump Sep 17, 2020, 6:12 AM

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i think they are saying that saying drawcall in katakana sounds like the word dragon

foggy pelican Sep 17, 2020, 6:12 AM

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oh I see

neon finch Sep 17, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Its literally says "call the dragon"

craggy stump Sep 17, 2020, 6:13 AM

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now i dont know what you mean

neon finch Sep 17, 2020, 6:14 AM

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Ok you use as less as possible materials and meshes

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Or youll awake dragon

craggy stump Sep 17, 2020, 6:14 AM

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LOL

neon finch Sep 17, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Trust me im industry specialist

foggy pelican Sep 17, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Particularly materials, meshes are relatively okay but doesn't mean you should go around using a bunch of them.

craggy stump Sep 17, 2020, 6:15 AM

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yeah

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ive heard of atlases

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but i dont really trust those cuz it removes customizability for the most part imo

neon finch Sep 17, 2020, 6:16 AM

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You customize than optimize right?

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Not vice versa

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You can also rebake albedo and normals(if exist) and any other maps

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And youll get ONE texture

grizzled acorn Sep 17, 2020, 7:34 AM

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Love your models torinyan

neon finch Sep 17, 2020, 7:46 AM

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🍉

neon finch Sep 17, 2020, 8:10 AM

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Thankyou

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Well they are not good example of optimisation)

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People demand to leave meshes separated so they can use unity to edit

eager horizon Sep 17, 2020, 8:13 AM

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I just refuse to do that

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My only poor performing component are usually dynamic bones. Sadly one of the most performance taxing

icy vigil Sep 17, 2020, 8:31 AM

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can anyone help me understand how to add my idle animations like prone

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ya boi wants to sit ;-;

neon finch Sep 17, 2020, 11:32 AM

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you open examples

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locomotion layer

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and do this...

neon finch Sep 17, 2020, 5:41 PM

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yo momma

mossy depot Sep 17, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Does someone want to make me a avatar?

alpine willow Sep 17, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Too much work to do for someone else.

sonic spade Sep 17, 2020, 6:10 PM

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here you go 𝙻𝚎𝚟𝚒シ
https://booth.pm/en/items/2016328

wicked oak Sep 17, 2020, 10:50 PM

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hey, sorry to ask this here- but does anyone here know if a discord for getting help with VRM files exists? I've been a VRChat avatar creator for a while, and I'm trying to convert my VRC avatar into a VRM file for someone but am having a ton of errors. I can't seem to find many forums in english on getting help with it though..

glad slate Sep 17, 2020, 11:57 PM

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I don't know much about it @wicked oak but is this what you were looking for? https://styly.cc/tips/unity-fbx2vrm/

wicked oak Sep 18, 2020, 12:02 AM

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ah, unfortunately that's what i've been trying to follow to set it up, but it throws up an error on export that i'm troubleshooting so I can continue the steps- searching the error hasn't provided any solutions so far, so i assumed there might be a discord out there for VRM stuff

formal saddle Sep 18, 2020, 1:09 AM

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i need it so bad

scenic monolith Sep 18, 2020, 4:33 AM

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avatar uploaded propertly but some shaders are broken they appear on my end as standard unity shader and on my friend's end they see it as the purple pink error shader

neon finch Sep 18, 2020, 9:01 AM

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ah, unfortunately that's what i've been trying to follow to set it up, but it throws up an error on export that i'm troubleshooting so I can continue the steps- searching the error hasn't provided any solutions so far, so i assumed there might be a discord out there for VRM stuff
@wicked oak be sure you use exact needed unity version. VRM is not unity 19

primal cosmos Sep 18, 2020, 11:29 AM

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hey guys just a quick one... if i have the supreme logo on a hoodie for my avatar is that bad for copywrite.. would my avatar get flagged?

glad slate Sep 18, 2020, 12:49 PM

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I just realized how easy it is to add 152,587,890,625 animations to an avatar with 3.0, or the more sane amount of 65,636. But you could also work the floats to make it around 33,232,930,569,601 if you hated yourself.

iron eagle Sep 18, 2020, 1:02 PM

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bro half of this games content are copywrite infringements nobody gonna care about a supreme logo

late tartan Sep 18, 2020, 5:30 PM

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^

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@primal cosmos Ya you're good

vital obsidian Sep 18, 2020, 7:29 PM

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anyone have any good sites for avatar accessories?

cosmic rose Sep 18, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Btw the 0= o because it’s censored

wide thicket Sep 18, 2020, 7:33 PM

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why would you talk about the cursed site

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the last time someone mentioned it, a goat ate his child the very next day

vital obsidian Sep 18, 2020, 7:38 PM

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xD oof

wide thicket Sep 18, 2020, 7:39 PM

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it seemed normal until the goat started complaining that it tasted nothing like a lettuce, peanut butter and miracle whip sandwich

glad kayak Sep 18, 2020, 8:11 PM

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I wonder if there's a reason it's censored.

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thunk

wide thicket Sep 18, 2020, 8:37 PM

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frequent copyright violations

fluid grotto Sep 18, 2020, 9:55 PM

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The files also often contain copies the VRCSDK, which, yeah type your VRC password into a random thing you downloaded from some other site that isn’t VRC, what could possibly go wrong

reef snow Sep 19, 2020, 4:05 AM

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What's the best way to export your avatar for another computer to load it successfully?

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Take out the SDK? Include every add-on you used?

primal cosmos Sep 19, 2020, 4:10 AM

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also another question.. if my avatar is private and i make it public so my friend can clone it then make it private again.. can somone clone off them ???? or will it also be private on there account????

low whale Sep 19, 2020, 4:10 AM

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That won't work, if you make an avatar private it will prevent anyone else from using it even if they have it favorited

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Your options would be 1) Sending him the files so he can upload it private for himself 2) Make it public and take care to leave cloning off and trust your friend 3) Make it public and use a password system that you either create yourself or buy

primal cosmos Sep 19, 2020, 4:11 AM

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hmm ok

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how do i turn off cloning?

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dw ill google it \

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thanks 🙂

reef snow Sep 19, 2020, 4:14 AM

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This is also why I'm asking what files to include so they can recreate it on their copy of unity.

low whale Sep 19, 2020, 4:18 AM

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I haven't done that myself but I imagine you would export all the assets used and the scene as a unity package (the scene will maintain components added within your hierarchy)

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You may find this helpful though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZg91lTSF8s

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And yes, definitely don't export it with any VRCSDK assets

reef snow Sep 19, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Do you leave out the SDK, for example, cause they'll provide their own?

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Ohh, wait, read on to the last message.

low whale Sep 19, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Yes they should create a project with nothing but the SDK in it, then import your package

reef snow Sep 19, 2020, 4:20 AM

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Hmm, how do you convert it to a unity package?

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I just have a folder full of assets.

uneven yew Sep 19, 2020, 4:20 AM

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Anyone know any good dynamic bones numbers for cloth? Like a skirt? I just want it to flow but not bounce around like it's made of rubber

low whale Sep 19, 2020, 4:20 AM

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You can select all the assets and right click and click create unity package

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You should watch that video

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Or "Export as unity package" I think it's called

reef snow Sep 19, 2020, 4:21 AM

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Ohh boy. I just tried lots of trial and error to get Dynamic bones that looked right.

uneven yew Sep 19, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Yeah, that's what I'm doing, but I was just wondering if anyone had any wisdom of the ancients

late tartan Sep 19, 2020, 4:24 AM

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High dampening, low elasticity, high inert

reef snow Sep 19, 2020, 4:25 AM

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I saw a realistically dangling pendant and was told they just set a 0.8 downward force and left the rest...default?

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Didn't try those numbers to see

uneven yew Sep 19, 2020, 4:26 AM

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I hadn't thought about downward force

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I'll try that out

reef snow Sep 19, 2020, 4:29 AM

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So, I updated to the latest SDK...why does it still show 2020.05.06.12.14?

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Hmm, unable to upload screenshot.

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https://imgur.com/qFdmzmV

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After all, the filename of the sdk is VRCSDK3-AVATAR-2020.09.15.11.25_Public

neon finch Sep 19, 2020, 5:24 AM

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can somebody check if the avatar i bought is 3.0 or not? i'm having trouble trying to upload, plus i dont even have the permissions to upload the avatar i bought yet, hah

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the trouble is also just that when i import, no scene is showing up

uneven yew Sep 19, 2020, 6:05 AM

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If you install the SDK3 in Unity then import the package, if it doesn't have missing scripts it's SDK3

craggy stump Sep 19, 2020, 6:30 AM

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there should be a scene file when you import a package

lunar hull Sep 19, 2020, 11:20 AM

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how long do i have to wait to upload my avatar im new to uploading

royal moss Sep 19, 2020, 11:24 AM

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No idea, but if you make friends, it goes faster?

lunar hull Sep 19, 2020, 11:25 AM

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:p\

wind oyster Sep 19, 2020, 11:25 AM

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Increase trust

lunar hull Sep 19, 2020, 11:25 AM

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ah

wind oyster Sep 19, 2020, 11:25 AM

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Make more friends and be active to increase trust

lunar hull Sep 19, 2020, 11:25 AM

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i spent 4 hours learing to make a avatar and now dis

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i already have a steam and oculus

wind oyster Sep 19, 2020, 11:26 AM

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you have an oculus?

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I cant even run a vr headset.

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Let alone get one

lunar hull Sep 19, 2020, 11:26 AM

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rift s

wind oyster Sep 19, 2020, 11:26 AM

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Ah

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But still

neon finch Sep 19, 2020, 4:02 PM

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from what I’ve been able to gather increasing trust has more to do with friend count than active playtime. Each trust rank might have a minimum playtime on public worlds with no AFKing but considering people who lose / unfriend a lot of friends can get demoted it seems to be more based around total friend count. @lunar hull

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DM me your username and I’ll add you, get us both closer to uploading our custom avatars.

gritty epoch Sep 19, 2020, 5:22 PM

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I'm looking for some cool Unity scripts to make dealing with avatar 3.0 configuration a bit easier for the complex things. anyone know of any?

livid forge Sep 19, 2020, 5:26 PM

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im looking for one animation from happy souls, the fast travel animation lol

floral rock Sep 19, 2020, 5:42 PM

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if a light is added to an avatar, it immediately dips to Red quality, is it based on the light settings or just the existance of the light itself

iron eagle Sep 19, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Just the lights existence

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But honestly don't worry too much about reaching a specific performance rank, just try to make your stuff as optimized as you reasonably can and most people won't have an issue

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Anyone who knows enough to actually care about your Avatar's performance is likely just going to check its actual stats anyways

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Most people don't pay any mind to the ranking it gives especially since it counts disabled stuff as well

verbal forum Sep 19, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Is VRC_station fixed yet?

late tartan Sep 20, 2020, 12:46 AM

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No :(

fluid grotto Sep 20, 2020, 1:25 AM

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I miss MMD dance worlds. None of my uploads can use them anymore

wide rivet Sep 20, 2020, 10:49 AM

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hello. is this where I can ask for help in uploading my own avatar? I am good at 3d modelling and understand how to do rigging in blender but I don't understand what bones are needed for vr chat and what IK bones are needed

topaz moss Sep 20, 2020, 12:26 PM

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What's wrong with VRC Stations?

odd zinc Sep 20, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Avatar 3.0 doesn't work with it

merry swan Sep 20, 2020, 2:27 PM

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3.0 uses their own sitting instead of chair going HEY use me instead, it will be fixed someday

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2 of my world heavy rely on using the chair for sleeping anim / dances , since some people like to sleep in vrchat, but dont have vr i made that

white vector Sep 20, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Hey, whenever I import my models from blender to unity, the hair texture looks super weird and the multiply layer goes away

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How do I fix that?

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I’ve been trying to import a model for days but something always messes up

sonic spade Sep 20, 2020, 2:32 PM

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will it be fixed tho? dunno if that was an intended use for the chairs, just a side effect of their ability to replace animators and community creativity

merry swan Sep 20, 2020, 4:05 PM

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it will be fixed, just not a high priority, 3.0 / udon need to mature abit more

ionic nova Sep 20, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Hi I was wondering what program should i use to make an avatar

sonic spade Sep 20, 2020, 7:44 PM

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blender ^

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blender 2.83 to be precise

ionic nova Sep 20, 2020, 7:45 PM

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ok

sonic spade Sep 20, 2020, 7:45 PM

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oh and install CATS plugin, it will help alot

leaden crest Sep 20, 2020, 7:59 PM

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what model extensions besides .fbx does vrchat support?

sonic spade Sep 20, 2020, 8:02 PM

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its more of what extension does unity support, fbx is so widely used because it does not require a special program to open and also supports everything required for a fully working model, from mesh to armature to materials and much more

fringe cobalt Sep 20, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Imagine using anything else really

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OBJ allows for objects, but they do not store rigging information

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GL is used too, but they seperate the information between the mesh and the skeleton

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You see those used a lot in source

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Even nintendo prefers fbx

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So I suggest sticking with it as it is up to date and globally supported

sand wren Sep 20, 2020, 8:15 PM

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DAE doesnt support blend shapes

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OBJ supports nothing other than the model and uvs

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BLEND is usually full of metadata and whatever so its much larger and sometimes buggy

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most other formats lack features or arent supported

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so thats why almost always its FBX

fringe cobalt Sep 20, 2020, 8:34 PM

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DAE was 90s I think?

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Used a lot in older titles

potent harbor Sep 20, 2020, 9:43 PM

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How well does VRchat support avatars with an Upper Chest bone in their armature?

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Last I checked, it only broke eye tracking, but that was before SDK3 avatars.

white vector Sep 20, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Hi, I have a question

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When I import my .fbx file to unity, the texture isn’t present, so I have to import it in

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But unity won’t let me import it as a material.

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So does anyone know how to turn a png texture into a unity material?

plucky vale Sep 20, 2020, 9:47 PM

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hey guys i need help in vc

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i will be live i just need help adding a model into vrchat

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i have unity, a .max file and some .tga textures and vrchat itself

white vector Sep 20, 2020, 9:50 PM

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I’m sorry I’m no help, not enough ppl who know smh

manic forge Sep 20, 2020, 10:10 PM

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@potent harbor VRChat doesn't require you to have an upper chest bone in a model so it shouldn't affect your uploading.

@white vector You create a new material, and add the texture to the albedo/main texture slot and drag the new material onto your model.

white vector Sep 20, 2020, 10:17 PM

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OHHHH

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TYSM

glass iron Sep 20, 2020, 10:55 PM

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in order to edit models can i only use unity or do i need other programs?

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im new and know close to nothing about unity

manic forge Sep 20, 2020, 11:27 PM

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@glass iron What do you mean by "edit models".

neon finch Sep 20, 2020, 11:27 PM

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How to clone an avatar?

glass iron Sep 20, 2020, 11:28 PM

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By that i mean change the dimensions nad angles i think

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*and

manic forge Sep 20, 2020, 11:28 PM

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@neon finch If a user has "Allow avatar cloning" on in their settings you would just open your quick menu, click on the user and click "Clone avatar"

neon finch Sep 20, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Gotcha

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Also, I saw a very large avatar. Is it custom made? Or is there somewhere they chose it from

manic forge Sep 20, 2020, 11:32 PM

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@glass iron If I'm understanding correctly for what you're talking about, you would just do those kinds of edits in Unity with the scaling tool.

@neon finch That depends on a case by case basis, you can check who made an avatar by opening your quick menu, click on the user and click the button that says "Show avatar author".

neon finch Sep 20, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Alright

manic forge Sep 20, 2020, 11:40 PM

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I'm guessing you found where the scaling tool is @glass iron?

glass iron Sep 20, 2020, 11:42 PM

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nope

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i just am too insecure to leave my dumb questions in the cat

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*chat

manic forge Sep 20, 2020, 11:58 PM

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https://gyazo.com/d2cd6521672bf38a2023e52d5d4a4464

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The thing that is selected in that screenshot is the scaling tool

glass iron Sep 21, 2020, 12:00 AM

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that helped

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thank you

merry swan Sep 21, 2020, 12:00 AM

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highly recommend using the import scale instead, figure out the size you want in unity first, then use that as import size, there is issues with animations if you scale avatar other then 1.1.1

glass iron Sep 21, 2020, 12:00 AM

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now im not completely confused

merry swan Sep 21, 2020, 12:01 AM

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3.0 gestures / animation might have you appear in ground or way different height then you see

steel iron Sep 21, 2020, 2:52 AM

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I wanna Plug this in here real quick..

https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/public-eye-look-parameters-or-blend-shapes-for-eye-tracking

TL;DR More options for eye tracking. Some public float parameters would cover pretty much everything, but blendshapes may be a good start too.

errant sierra Sep 21, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Are you currently unable to add chairs to models?

ionic kelp Sep 21, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Anyone know where to get good anime boy avatars?

tribal raven Sep 21, 2020, 7:49 AM

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Hey all

queen swift Sep 21, 2020, 9:05 AM

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So I don't know what happened but my stations are now magically working. People are sitting in my stations both av3 and av2

white vector Sep 21, 2020, 12:44 PM

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My eye tracking doesn’t work😭😭

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I optimize using cats and when I select left and right eye transform, the transforms are really close together and both iris are too far apart

sonic spade Sep 21, 2020, 12:46 PM

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wait? you used cats eye tracking?

white vector Sep 21, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Lemme guess, doesn’t work on sdk 3 doesn’t it?

sonic spade Sep 21, 2020, 12:47 PM

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you are on av3, that is no longer necessary

white vector Sep 21, 2020, 12:47 PM

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The data didn’t update anyways

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Mabye it messed it up

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Would you reccomend I just don’t touch the eyes in blender?

sonic spade Sep 21, 2020, 12:48 PM

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either way, you can just leave the eye bones as they are and the whole setup is done in unity, very straight forward in there

white vector Sep 21, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Mabye it messed it up idk

sonic spade Sep 21, 2020, 12:49 PM

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yeah, just make sure that cats did not generate the second pair of bones for the eyes, it will still work but it might give some weirder results because of the weightpaint

white vector Sep 21, 2020, 12:49 PM

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The problem is the transforms were too close

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Yeah I’ll try that

gaunt citrus Sep 21, 2020, 2:51 PM

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should i separate anything if i'm making a model on blender for an avatar, if so what?

neon finch Sep 21, 2020, 3:56 PM

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anyone with a sitting animation that is acually working and dosnt look shit after the new update?

dusk fulcrum Sep 21, 2020, 8:29 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/TltKlUA.mp4

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Its possible to do. Camera even snaps to the new head height. Sitting animations work a ton better than laying down. The head must also pretty much be just moved on the Y axis down and not offset much. I'd try looking for animations like that. The temporary pose space behavior is what you use to snap the camera in its propper place. It stops the avatar from clipping in the ground when sitting.

delicate snow Sep 21, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Hello everyone I am a relatively new player and was wondering if anyone can suggest some skeleton avatars I’m a fan of skeletons and was wondering if anyone can suggest any to me or suggest a world thank you.

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I am not sure if this is the right place to ask though

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I am sorry if it is not

dusk fulcrum Sep 21, 2020, 8:34 PM

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I think more #vrchat-general-1 or #vrchat-general-2 would be the place to ask. This channel is more for Avatars 3.0 talk which is the new sdk that avatar creators can use to make even more in-depth avatars. @delicate snow

delicate snow Sep 21, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Ok thx

fluid grotto Sep 21, 2020, 9:09 PM

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Does temporary pose space work in vr?

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I was under the impression it’s a desktop only thing

jaunty pine Sep 21, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Mind if I dm anyone who is willing to share their opinion on my avatar idea?

dusk fulcrum Sep 21, 2020, 10:00 PM

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@fluid grotto I dont see why it wouldnt work. I also disable tracking for some stuff as well though so maybe that breaks things.

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It gets the head bones position in the first frame of the animation i think and uses that to set the view height. Shouldnt matter what a VR player is doing with their head beforehand. Could easily be wrong though as I can not test it myself.

fluid grotto Sep 21, 2020, 10:17 PM

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It never works in VR for me.

merry pendant Sep 23, 2020, 6:52 AM

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Does anyone know if its possible in vrchat to make an avatar with dynamic armature/skeletal structure. - as in, can I change the dynamic bone coordinates or something via toggling an emote or a guesture.

loud cape Sep 23, 2020, 6:53 AM

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@merry pendant you can enable/disable dynamic bone components, and you can probably edit the parameters using animations

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not sure about changing the root of the dynamic bone tho

merry pendant Sep 23, 2020, 6:56 AM

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Ok, fair.

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What i am trynig to achieve is, I have a normal size avatar and i'm getting a scaled down version, I wanted to 'nest' the scaled one by using it in a togglable emote and a little puff of cartoon smoke to miniturize it, but the skeletal structure will be a different size/shape, so yeah.

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@loud cape i'm not chasing fancy emotes or anything like that, just want to preserve each avatar's in-game physical/skeletal response and basic guestures (smile, etc). i know how to do the latter.

open reef Sep 23, 2020, 7:14 AM

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I believe there is info or a prefab out there to be able to scale your avatar up and down and adjust view with radial menus

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Actually looks like they may have taken the component away in a recent update, but heres the video just in case https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTrXcij3z8M&ab_channel=Zer0VR

silver adder Sep 23, 2020, 7:18 AM

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Yeah, avatar scaling is not something that's supported atm, people have made hacky workarounds, but expect those to break when the proper solution is reintroduced.

open reef Sep 23, 2020, 7:23 AM

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God I hope it is reintroduced and doesn't get the final ik full body biped ik script treatment D:

merry swan Sep 23, 2020, 7:25 AM

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scaling will break animation on it for other, so dont see it will ever work right

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avatar anything but 1.1.1 and you gesture/animate it will be waay off for other people

merry pendant Sep 23, 2020, 7:26 AM

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I've been speaking with some of my ava friends and they agreed about the scaling thing

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however one of them said they have managed to get a retextured avatar by putting 'two avatars in one avatar and leaving one in disabled mode and toggling that mode'

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I can see how that might work if its like changing clothing color or something, but im not sure whether that would let me load a seperate armature.

open reef Sep 23, 2020, 7:29 AM

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hmm. I have my main avi scaled up a bit in unity, didn't know there were "new" issues with that lol Good to know if i start getting errors

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Or i could stop being lazy and do it in blender but 🤷‍♂️

merry swan Sep 23, 2020, 7:30 AM

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animate yourself and have a friend look where you for them compared to where you see yourself

open reef Sep 23, 2020, 7:30 AM

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is it relative to how much your scaled?

merry swan Sep 23, 2020, 7:31 AM

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most of mine are very close 1 already so i didnt notice it until some said i was tiny bit in ground, think its worse bigger your avatar is scaled to

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we used the same anim to test it and he was where he should be, he was 1.1.1

open reef Sep 23, 2020, 7:32 AM

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that'd make sense why i haven't noticed. I'm 1.1 so probably isnt big enough for me to notice myself

merry swan Sep 23, 2020, 7:32 AM

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Tried to test it with multiple clients, but synch when its on same pc is aweful :p

open reef Sep 23, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Guess I'll scale the 13 new RP models before i finish putting all my av3 stuff on them Dx

brisk meadow Sep 23, 2020, 10:35 AM

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I should probably see if this is possible before I continue working; does anyone have a guide to making a gesture trigger an audio source? I believe that worked with avatar 2.0, but 3.0 doesn't seem to have the customoverwrite setup that we used to use.

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Like using the vive index controllers; I point, it plays a linked sound clip.

eager horizon Sep 23, 2020, 10:42 AM

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Tou can do alll you could in 2.0 and more in 3.0

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Also its valve index not vive

brisk meadow Sep 23, 2020, 10:43 AM

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derp! Can't even name my own controller...where can I find the equivalent of the customoverwrite file for 3.0 if I may be so bold?