udon-general

[wise quarry]

doesnt work

[fierce verge]

??

[wise quarry]

same graph

[fierce verge]

you could make a sendcustom event behind the graph that enables it

and then a custom event before this one

calling it like "UpdateButton"

[wise quarry]

Thats my graph now

[fierce verge]

hmmm

that should work after set active

have you compiled before testing?

[wise quarry]

i tryd both, with and tihout connecting with setactive

and clicked before compile

it doesnt work

[fierce verge]

without doesnt work for sure

because the branch doesnt get any input command so to speak

did you put the button into the public variable in the inspector?

[wise quarry]

but then the mirror stay active but without the button get the coloring

[wise quarry]

no

lol

[fierce verge]

hahaha so it trys to color nothing

[wise quarry]

how to do it?

[fierce verge]

just drag the button from the right into that slot

so from your hierachy into that slot

there should be a slot if you set the variable to public

[wise quarry]

there is no button

[fierce verge]

the HQtoggle is your button right?

put the button in that you want to change color

[wise quarry]

aaaahh you mean the toggle xD

[fierce verge]

yeah hahahah

you set the variable to public right?

[wise quarry]

yes

[fierce verge]

normally it should work

using this you could also make it change colors depending on if its a HQ or a LQ mirror

because now it makes them grey when theres no mirror

[wise quarry]

oh this would be cool too lol but i try first to make it work how it should be xD

[fierce verge]

xD

[wise quarry]

doesnt work

oh wait its not connected

next try xD

[fierce verge]

xD

[wise quarry]

now if click on this, its invisible but i think because of the alpha

and the mirror doesnt stay active

i mean it works how it should

[fierce verge]

yeha that probably the alpha

[fierce verge]

Yesss

[wise quarry]

its workiiinnng

[fierce verge]

whuups

[wise quarry]

lul

[fierce verge]

and now you can copy the component and paste as new on the other one

[fierce verge]

oh you could actually use this xD

so when you press HQ the LQ one turns white

by adding another customevent to a button/toggle

btw make sure that when you copy and paste a Udon component to another object it can lose those variables

so you need to set them again

[wise quarry]

the thing is, actually i need the connection from "set Active" to make the LQ Mirror disabled if HQ is on, but i remembered that i can make more "Set Actives" and connecting it

[fierce verge]

yess

[wise quarry]

thank you very much daaaamnn

now im on my next saiyajin level

[fierce verge]

No problem

if you have any other questions just post them here 🙂

[wise quarry]

i think i have the problem what i thought xD

how to connect both?

[fierce verge]

ehmmm

Just duplicate the Customevent

and place that again in front of the branch

[grand temple]

just do one then do the other

[fierce verge]

as long as they have the same name they trigger both

[grand temple]

the white line indicates the order in which things happen

[fierce verge]

could also do that

[grand temple]

you can't have two things happen at the same time

[fierce verge]

or just make 2 customevents and 2 setactives, for each button

but @wise quarry if you place this graph on the other Toggle you can change the variables per gameobject

so if you change the variables on the LQ it doesnt affect the variables on the HQ

[grand temple]

and no, that does not work. I just checked

[fierce verge]

ah I tought it did xD

[fierce verge]

my bad

[grand temple]

even if that did work it'd be so messy and please god don't do that

[fierce verge]

true

I would just re-use that graph on the other button with diffrent variables

[wise quarry]

short: i cant make both? xD only color change or object toggle?

[grand temple]

no, just make it flow from one to the next

[fierce verge]

yeah

[grand temple]

every event has an input and an output arrow

[fierce verge]

the line is just the order of actions

so you can do Event > SetActive > SetActive > Color

[wise quarry]

i dont understand how to do it now, xD

[wise quarry]

if i do this, then the button stays red

[fierce verge]

because you dont have the Get ActiveSelf connected to the Branch

[wise quarry]

aaaah thanks it works

thaaaaanks

[fierce verge]

🥳

[wise quarry]

It works with both Mirrors, i put it on LQ Mirror to and the buttons works how it should it be, but the problem is, i activate both then both buttons are red, that what i means is if i click on "HQ" then "LQ" should be green and not that both should be red, but in herarchy i see that the mirror disabled the other mirror, only the colors not working with both buttons

[fierce verge]

so basically both buttons turn a color but you only want one to turn a color?

[wise quarry]

if i click "HQ" then it is red, then if i click on "LQ" this is red too, but it should be that hq automatically turns to green because its deactived because "LQ" is now turned on

[fierce verge]

yeah I see

I would make 2 variables, one is called ToggleHQ and one is ToggleLQ

and then do 2 set colors

or toggle1 and toggle2

[wise quarry]

What do you mean with 2 Variables?

[fierce verge]

so when true, it makes ToggleButton red, and toggleButton2 green

and then in the inspector swap the two buttons in only one of the two buttons if that makes sense

[shy crypt]

Am I using UseLegacyLocomotions properly, I am trying to get stations animation working properly for avatar 3.0's I'm trying to update my MMD world to SDK3 but I have been in the same loop for 3 days now. where all avatar 3.0 would have tracking control enabled when animation is playing

[grand temple]

legacy locomotion has nothing to do with MMD animations

[shy crypt]

seems like every MMD world I have recently Played in forces you in it

then agian I could be wrong

[grand temple]

you probably need to get the VRC Animator Tracking Control script from an avatar project and get it into your world project. Then add it to the animation to disable tracking

that's what I can assume from what I know, though I haven't actually made an MMD world myself

[wise quarry]

the problem is now, if both are deactived they are so xD

[shy crypt]

I have tried to get VRC animator script working but it seems to not like being alone without all of the other avatar scripts

[wise quarry]

i think i give up with color thing, the main things works for now, thats enough for me xD thank youu for your help

[fierce verge]

xD

no problem! when you need some help just ask here or let me know!

why is my customevent not showing??

what happend to the inputfield?

[grand temple]

you may have to compile it

[fierce verge]

"Failed to refresh program 'TOGGLE LIGHTS' due to exception 'System.Collections.Generic.KeyNotFoundException: The given key was not present in the dictionary.
"

I think this is my problem

but wtf do I do with it

wait a minute

I get that error when I pull this line???

[grand temple]

yeah don't do that

it's coming from a separate flow path, that will break things

[fierce verge]

should I put my onplayerjoin on the same input as the customevent?

[grand temple]

what?

[fierce verge]

I want to sync this toggle basically

[grand temple]

just don't share variables between flow paths

[fierce verge]

but its derived from a pool

[grand temple]

I have no idea what you're asking, all I can say is that dragging the line from there makes no sense

[fierce verge]

but how do I make this then?

I have this button that toggles a pool on and off

but I want to sync it to late joiners

[grand temple]

are all these objects going to have the same state?

[fierce verge]

yes

all active or not active

[grand temple]

then just grab the state of the first one

[fierce verge]

ahhh thats smart!

[fierce verge]

but how do I make it so that when that branch is true, it sets them all to active?

[grand temple]

copy this part

[fierce verge]

thanks!

[grand temple]

but for the int, just use 0 so you grab the first one

woah woah wait a second

why is this coming from a pool?

pools should be handling all this for you if you let them

but I don't think a pool is what you want at all

[fierce verge]

I got like 80 gameobjects I need to toggle at once

[grand temple]

you just need a regular old gameobject array if you're going to be manipulating the objects manually

a pool is a more automated solution where you just say "I would like to spawn an item please" and then it does

[fierce verge]

hmmm

I made everything in my world based on that pool idea

where it takes all items in a pool and toggles them

[grand temple]

you're not using anything from the pool though

you're just using the array of gameobjects

which you can do by just adding a gameobject array variable to your script

[fierce verge]

this one?

[grand temple]

that's the node you would use to pull from a gameobject array

[fierce verge]

wait just read it again

nvm hahaha

[grand temple]

you need to have a gameobject array in the variables list on the left

[fierce verge]

I seee

well gosh darnit

and then just replace pool > getpool by gameobject[]

[grand temple]

yeah

[fierce verge]

Like this right?

[grand temple]

yep

[fierce verge]

And then this would be my synced toggle

[grand temple]

yep

[fierce verge]

why doesnt this do anything?

[fierce verge]

As soon as a player joins all objects get turned on when theyre off?

it works for a single gameobject but not for a pool?

[grand temple]

just don't use the pool like that

it's doing a whole bunch of other things that are not necessary and probably screwing with you

[fierce verge]

but this doesnt work

[fierce verge]

the pool works but the gameobject array doesnt

[grand temple]

try debug logging stuff

print the length of the array, print each item in the array

[fierce verge]

how do I even do this xD, I never had to debug since everything always worked except this array stuff

[grand temple]

debug log

[fierce verge]

how?

[grand temple]

a node

called debug log

[fierce verge]

where do I see the output?

[grand temple]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/debugging-udon-projects

[fierce verge]

if I do this my button object gets dissabled instead of my array

[grand temple]

because you left setactive blank

[fierce verge]

ah yes

[grand temple]

leaving a gameobject, transform, or udonbehaviour blank will always self-reference

[fierce verge]

ahhh now it all works

only need to make the synced toggle now

[stuck sentinel]

im scared since i cant find a tutorial or anything that can help me with this

[cedar iron]

Anyone know how to teleport everyone with an event?

[grand temple]

you can only teleport the local player, so all you have to do is send a network event to everybody and when they receive it, teleport the local player

[cedar iron]

Not entirely sure how to do that....
Can you help me through the process?

[grand temple]

watch some tutorials on networkin

[shy cipher]

my control panel is gone?

im trying to make a world in sdk3

[grand temple]

right click the VRCSDK folder and click reimport

[shy cipher]

alrighty

thanks

i prob messed up trying to update my map to sdk3

[grand temple]

nah, it's a normal issue that just happens sometimes

[shy cipher]

oh oki thanks

yeah sdk2 just stopped working

like nothing works with it anymore

[grand temple]

but you said SDK3?

[shy cipher]

i updated

to sdk3

[grand temple]

right, then it's normal that everything from SDK2 breaks

that's what it means to upgrade to SDK3

Triggers are deprecated, and you need to recreate everything in udon

[shy cipher]

alright i gotta update all my worlds and avatars anyways

yeah thats what i thought

anyways ima go finish my world now

[shy cipher]

so i restart unity now?

is my sdk broken??

it did nothing

[fast lodge]

I'm trying to get a custom avatar, but my Unity wont work. Anyone know any solutions?

[fierce verge]

How can I make a synced integer in an animator?

[shy cipher]

i found out my problem

i cant enable any of the unity packages

doesnt let me

like i click on the arrow and it disables?

[grand temple]

which packages are you trying to enable? That doesn't sound like a step I'm familiar with in installing the SDK

[grand temple]

You might have better luck asking in #avatar-help since this channel is all about worlds

[shy cipher]

hold on

gotta reopen the menu

okay so packages and vrc examples

what files did i forget to delete when i updated?

[grand temple]

if you deleted SDK2 while unity was open, it wouldn't delete them fully. Try closing unity, deleting, then re-open unity and import SDK3

[shy cipher]

oki

also what files do i have to remove just the sdk folder?

ima just load the backup before i updated

[grand temple]

anything related to vrchat

I forget everything in sdk2, but it might have had examples too

[shy cipher]

alrighty

what about the examples folder?

eh i have a backup anyways

[shy cipher]

there were two things in the assets folder so-

[shy cipher]

yup, didnt work.

[shy cipher]

since sdk3 doesnt work, do you know how to fix my sdk2 problem?

whenever i export it just shows the camera instead of the menu

[grand temple]

what do you mean by that?

like the game view doesn't have all the build and publish input?

[shy cipher]

nope

just the camera view

[grand temple]

you have some camera that is overriding the view?

[shy cipher]

nope

[grand temple]

what camera? what view?

[shy cipher]

when i export it shows this

thats my camera

[grand temple]

what do you mean by export

[shy cipher]

build and publish

[grand temple]

then how is that not what I meant here?

[shy cipher]

sorry

but yeah it doesnt show up

[grand temple]

so you've got some camera somewhere that is rendering to the game view

just disable that camera

[shy cipher]

alrighty

now it just says no camera rendering

is it my vrcworld?

[grand temple]

what exactly are you clicking to get to this point?

[shy cipher]

build and publish for android on the sdk

[grand temple]

do you get any errors in the console?

[shy cipher]

3 trigger on cube was not initialized in time

oh wait i have clear on build on

[grand temple]

idk, something is wrong with your SDK and I'm not getting enough information. Try a fresh install

[shy cipher]

it works with avatars

and other worlds

its just this one

i only have these

and i dont think it has anything to do with the problem tho

eh ill deal with it later

also its 100% the vrcworlds problem i know that

i just dont know what its doing

[cedar iron]

I'm looking to check to see if a player is in a trigger, and if not, the door closes

Is that possible?

[west depot]

gues this could go here. i cant find any related issues online. in vrc. chairs have recently just stopped showing up. i dont get the blue square telling me i can sit anymore. any ideas?

or someone direct me to a vrc support channel. i dont see one and this looks like development

[mossy crane]

Do people use the built in combat system variables of Udon often or is having custom hitboxes following players/ints to control health ect more favored for stability?

[timber mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ3hWKY-NiA&t=5s&ab_channel=Player_Bush001

I have all of this video correct and it works but when i try to turn off the audio is where i get confused, the person who made the video has a comment on how to do it but i still dont understand

[brazen epoch]

The CombatSystem isn't implemented into Udon iirc

I had to make my own implementation of Kill Boxes and such

[mossy crane]

Even ragdolling on 0 hp like back in SDK2?

[brazen epoch]

Correct. That doesn't exist

[mossy crane]

big sad, thank you for the reply tho!

[brazen epoch]

Of course. If you do find something official or supplementary, do tell please!

[mossy crane]

How did you manage size of avatar for your hitboxes if you ever went that route?

[brazen epoch]

The Player capsule collider is added by VRChat itself. You can just check OnTriggerEnter or other Collider events if you don't want to use Trigger Colliders
or just OnPlayerEnter

[mossy crane]

Excellent. Thank you! I figured out combat pretty good a few years ago, maybe ill poke at the depreciated stuff a bit before making own lol

[brazen epoch]

Yup. Another thing is there is no standard way to kill someone other than to Teleport them to a desired location and use a screen space shader to display a death graphic

[mossy crane]

why 😦 the ragdolls were so good lol

[hushed gazelle]

I swear I've seen ragdolling used in an Udon world though.

[mossy crane]

Well

I got the combat working, everything but ragdoll

[brazen epoch]

Ragdolls imply Rigid Bodies which can cause performance issues

[brazen epoch]

Perhaps there is a way to do that at runtime, but I haven't bothered

[mossy crane]

25 dmg per bullet, 100 hp, after 4 shots you freeze and respawn a few seconds

on my proj

other object

[brazen epoch]

Oh wait. Do those methods actually work

[mossy crane]

I just tested and they seemd to

[brazen epoch]

I swear the docs say deprecated

[mossy crane]

weather intentional or not lol

[brazen epoch]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/players#combat-system

[mossy crane]

without ragdolls its so sad ;_; I can probably test for 0 hp int and play a death sound at least

this thing has no docs

so i took a gamble and just activated it

i think thats the old Vrc_Combat script

[brazen epoch]

Seems to be not recommended so it might be deprecated and removed at some point

[mossy crane]

lol probably

Hope we get a new system soon

[brazen epoch]

I'll just stick with my jank implementation for now for sake of support

[mossy crane]

exactly lol, future proof

[hushed gazelle]

I enabled it in my toy store just for the particle collision, because now all my paintgun-equipped toy vehicle avatars splatter over people while in the world.

[brazen epoch]

The collider on players should be sufficient for checking that kind of stuff although cyan emu says VRC spawns a collider at the player's feet which isn't that large in test mode

[hushed gazelle]

Nah, that's only for world particles, I'm talking avatars.

[brazen epoch]

Ah okay

[mossy crane]

plz work lol

it does not ;_; but the player sees themselves ragdoll

Ayy close enough lol

[timber mortar]

?

[night viper]

This is what he meant in the comment

[timber mortar]

ok thank you

[hushed gazelle]

Don't tie audiosource to both branches, it can get a bit buggy I've found. Make a separate copy of AudioSource to connect to Play and Stop.

[night viper]

really? Does this happens with any variable ? I have been doing this a lot hmm I hope it is a bug that will be fixed in the future

[cedar iron]

I have a gun that fires rigidbodies, how do i remove them after a bit?

[hushed gazelle]

What're the rigidbodies actually doing?

[mossy crane]

This would work for a long while putting it on the object you fired

cant find destroy for some reason

[timber mortar]

thank you, i finally finished downloading all the songs my friends recomended lol and it works perfectly

[wise quarry]

@fierce verge do you know how to use the unity profiler for optimization?

[slim hound]

It is possible to have ragdolling for remote players if setup correctly

[empty mantle]

ok is there a node that plays animations like audio nodes on how theres a play and stop

[fierce verge]

No sorry

How do I make a late player sync the current integer in an animator?

[mossy crane]

You should be able to find your Speed int variable and in the drop down it will have a “sync” checkbox

Oh, or make a int variable in the udon graph on the left, and get/set that int

[fierce verge]

I am doing that on the right?

[mossy crane]

It looks like you have a int inside your animator, but that animator will default once someone new joins, so I think you need to create another variable called Speed in the graph and make it synced, then instead of setting the int directly you set the udon int and use that number as your animator int reference so there’s a universal number referenced no matter when someone joins

[fierce verge]

ahhhhh

thanks!

[mossy crane]

And if that doesn’t work, you can add one of the OnPlayerJoins event and set that animator to the synced variable

[fierce verge]

I cant find the int as a variable?

nvm I was in another tab xD

[mossy crane]

Ahh kk lol. Goodluck!

[fierce verge]

wait huh

[fierce verge]

So I made an Int variable, but how can I change that int?

[fierce verge]

I think I got it

[fierce verge]

nvm

This works but doesnt sync

[scarlet lake]

I have inserted this udon script of the menu for worlds.
It works perfectly for PC but on VR it doesn't allow to click, can I know if it's my problem and if I can fix this thing?

https://github.com/Thryrallo/UdonPrefabs

[cedar iron]

Can a udon behavior toggle items that are not a child of the object that owns the behavior?

[fierce verge]

if its in UI make sure that the buttons are just in from of the canvas, so they cant be obscured, I had this problem once

[fierce verge]

yes, using a variable

[cedar iron]

Ok, can a "SendCustomNetworkEvent" node be activated from an "OnPickup" or "OnDrop" node?

[fierce verge]

sendcustomnetwork can be activated by anything that has the Action Triangle

[fierce verge]

I mean have the objects a little bit off the canvas

[cedar iron]

hm, ok. It doesn't seem to function properly though

[fierce verge]

hmmmmm

[cedar iron]

i had this for my pickups and drops

but it didn't function properly

[fierce verge]

Like this, as you can see the button is a bit on top of the canvas, this was my case, the canvas image blocked the UI buttons

[grand temple]

network events don't work on events that start with an underscore. This is for security reasons so you can lock down key functions

[cedar iron]

ah, good to know, thank you
i was under the impression that any name would work as long as it matched between the network, and the custom event

[grand temple]

that is normally the case, but starting with an underscore means something special

[cedar iron]

ah well oki

[scarlet lake]

the buttons have a trigger box.

[grand temple]

also it will break things if you name a custom event exactly the same as something else, so call it like NetworkedOnPickup

[cedar iron]

oki :3

[fierce verge]

hmmmm I have no idea then sorry

@grand temple since you helped me out yesterday with the sync, got any idea why this doesnt sync the integer?

Mode is a Synced variable that gets set by a button

[grand temple]

you should be using OnDeserialization, that is an event that happens when you receive synced data

sending a network event onplayerjoined does not guarantee which one will arrive first

[fierce verge]

so instead of onplayerjoined I should have a ondeserialization that updates integer as a networkevent?

[grand temple]

no network event at all

[fierce verge]

so on deserializations just update the mode locally?

[grand temple]

yeah

also when setting the value, make sure to take ownership first and if it's manual sync, do RequestSerialization after

[fierce verge]

I dont quite understand that

I want it to sync when someone joins, because when the value changes it does that in a networkevent so that syncs, only late joiners dont get it atm

[grand temple]

network events are a very basic way to sync that is prone to breaking. You should use synced variables

[fierce verge]

and what about the ownership and manual sync?

[grand temple]

that's what you need to do for synced variables

1. Take ownership
2. Set variable
3. RequestSerialization

[fierce verge]

I could only find a tutorial for one using networkevent xD

[grand temple]

that will make it so everybody has the same variable and they will receive OnDeserialization when they get it

[fierce verge]

Is takeOwnership needed when only the master controls it?

[grand temple]

no it is not

[fierce verge]

so after setting a variable I only need the requestserial

[grand temple]

if it is manual, yes

[fierce verge]

and when someone joins they trigger a receive serializations

[grand temple]

yes

there are two different ways to sync: manual and continuous. You can only have one type per gameobject, even if you have multiple udonbehaviours on the same object. If an objectsync is on the object you are also limited to only have continuous

Continuous syncs the variables automatically about 5 times per second and you are very limited in how much data you can sync. About 120 characters if it's a string.

Manual syncs the variables when you requestserialization and also when a player joins. It has a much, much larger limit on data (like 60kb)

[fierce verge]

ahhh thanks

So this would change the value of the synced variable "speed" and save it?

and then when a player joins it gets it automatically? or do I need to call deserialization?

[grand temple]

You're doing that inside a network event so this will run for everyone

and only the owner can call requestserialization

[fierce verge]

only the master is able to run this command anyway

[grand temple]

but it's a network event

so everyone will be running it

[fierce verge]

ahhh

I see

[grand temple]

you should separate the logic so that the master is setting the variable, then everyone is applying that variable to the objects

[fierce verge]

Like this?

forgot to connect For to SetInt tho

[grand temple]

yes, but don't use a network event. That creates a race condition where it depends on which one arrives first. The synced variables take a different path across the network than network events so you can't guarantee which will arrive first

That's what OnDeserialization is for

[fierce verge]

so replace the event custom by Ondeserialization

[grand temple]

yes

though the owner won't get OnDeserialization, so you'll need to call this function after the requestserialization

or you can replace it with an OnVariableChanged of the value which will happen for everyone

[fierce verge]

I cant click the Event Ondeserialization in the add menu???

[grand temple]

do you already have that event somewhere in here?

[fierce verge]

no?

[grand temple]

are you sure?

[fierce verge]

yes

[grand temple]

I don't know what to say other than check again ¯_(ツ)_/¯

scroll all the way out, look at the minimap

[fierce verge]

I added it but removed it afterwards, does that cause trouble?

[grand temple]

shouldn't

might cause problems if it's not compiling properly

[fierce verge]

I dont get any errors

I reloaded and compiled again but to no succes

I can add other nodes just fine

[outer goblet]

Hi All! Does anyone know if there is a way to switch scenes on a collision or button trigger?

[fierce verge]

I tried it in another script and I can add it, remove it and add it, but for some reason I cant add it

[grand temple]

you cannot have multiple scenes in a vrchat world whatsoever

[outer goblet]

Damn 😞

[fierce verge]

Use teleport instead

[outer goblet]

Ty phasedragon. Will do

[fierce verge]

Is there a way to search in the udon graph? because I cant find the OnDeserialization but I cant add it

[grand temple]

yeah, space opens the quick search. Tab opens the full search which is laggier but does not require you to go through categories

[fierce verge]

I mean from nodes I already placed

I cant see the OnDeserialization in my graph but I cant place a new one

[grand temple]

idk, try a new graph

[fierce verge]

I tried in another, that works fine

but this graph is linked to my entire system 😦

[grand temple]

so move everything you have to a different graph

[fierce verge]

I used ctrl+A did copy

and I still cant place it hmmmm

so its probably somewhere in there but I cant see it

I got it... it was behind a larger node

@grand temple this should work right?

[grand temple]

the animator is not plugged in

[fierce verge]

ah yes

[grand temple]

also this won't work for the owner because they don't receive OnDeserialization

[fierce verge]

so behind the Customevent I need to trigger the setinteger aswell right

[grand temple]

just have some way of applying the value for the owner, yeah

[fierce verge]

okay, let me fix it up and test, thanks in advance!

[fierce verge]

When I activate Swing, the objects start swinging but not for another player that joins later

[tribal elm]

I have a button setup and I'm trying to make it toggle the music. This looks like it should work yet when I push it the button disappears and the music keeps playing?

[night viper]

Make sure the gameobject "Synth" is not empty on the inspector of the script. If you leave it empty it will reference itself (toggling itself off)

[tribal elm]

Nice I attached it to a cube and it worked, thank you.

[hollow smelt]

is it normal for a pickup item to shake violently when you pick it up?

[paper galleon]

Nope

Is it on the right layer?

Is it colliding with something

[hollow smelt]

mmm not sure

ill send you a screenshot

[gusty dune]

Udon beginner here. Trying to make a "Guess Who" map and figuring out how to randomize objects in an object pool so that all the "cards" can be randomized on a Udon button press. What I got so far is just random cards spawning everytime I press the button. Not sure about the logical next step, appreciate help and suggestions https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/722760686605697064/933447220617936926/udon_randomize_cards_derp.mp4

I think I need to place the destination cards on the board and assign positions, or if I place dummy destination cards and replace them with the cards from the pool, that might also work

Made two object pools destination groups, one for blue and one for red, now to figure out the udon logic

[wind atlas]

You get a gameobject when you spawn from the pool. You can assign any position and rotation to that using your dummy destinations.

[gusty dune]

This is my current udon graph. I think I have too much of a knowledge gap to understand how to do that

Appreciate the help!

[wind atlas]

Yeah, that could be a bit rough then. There are some small details like you have to check if it's the owner of the pool, before you spawn anything.
I wouldn't use a pool for the destination, if you simply want to place those cards there.

I'd have some way of retrieving the next position, and then use that as your destination for that particular spawned object.

The way you would do that then is: GameObject (from TryToSpawn) -> transform -> SetPositionAndRotation

The next destination depends on the rules of the game. But I feel like that could get advanced quick. Are you familiar with arrays? Ideally you would save the state of your board in some kind of dedicated game manager script using arrays. That script would provide the next destination to spawn that's free because it would track which ones are occupied.

[wind atlas]

I just checked out how the game is played. So it looks like what you want is go through each of the destinations and populate it with a person from the pool of people?

[gusty dune]

Aye, basically the game will be semi manual, so knocking down cards is done by the players themselves

The automated portion is populating the board from the pool

[wind atlas]

I see, yeah you can do it kinda like I said with the: GameObject (from TryToSpawn) -> transform -> SetPositionAndRotation
except that instead of managing it in some complicated way, you can go through each destination and do the above.
I'll make an example in a bit, hope that will make sense then.

[gusty dune]

Thank you! I dont know if there's some good way to collaborate udon logic easier via a website

[frigid magnet]

Hello,udon beginner here. I am making a control panel for a lab experiment for school but I am not able to change the Ownership of the buttons so every user can change the values of different parameters. I was wondering if there is an easy way to change the ownership of an object?

[wind atlas]

I don't think so, it's possible to exchange code though. I'll just use screenshots:

[gusty dune]

There may be some extra complexity I just realized. After filling each board from the pool, each player has one secret identity selected from the board to be their person the opponent needs to guess

[wind atlas]

That would be part of the destination array.

Honestly, in my example, you could even make an array of ALL people, not just red.

[wind atlas]

Do you mean Networking.SetOwner?

[gusty dune]

Thank you for going through so much trouble to help, I'll dig into your example and get back to you

[wind atlas]

Yeah, feel free to ask if anything is not clear. In my example, I'm assuming you will create an array of empty objects that are only used as positions and rotations for the people.

[gusty dune]

I see you don't have an interact button but a "custom event", is this something one would call from another script with an interact button?

Like a function

[wind atlas]

Yeah, it's like a function, but you can just connect an interact node, or a pickup node, or a player entering a collider node, etc., directly.

[gusty dune]

Ah alright

[wind atlas]

I've realized a problem btw, I'm assuming you will have an animation that will flip those cards down, right?
My solution has the limitation that you can't move them after they are out of the pool. I'd need to find something for that.

[frigid magnet]

Yes, I looked into it but I dont understand what I Am supposed to connect to each node

[gusty dune]

I didn't plan to, can you not move them manually?

I figured making flipping manual, it would add more player randomness and emergent gameplay

[wind atlas]

What I mean is, we don't know which person card is where in the board, we just put that to that position.

So when you want to flip red card number 5, for example, you wouldn't know which one of the people it is.

[wind atlas]

Look at the screenshot above for an example. You can also leave out gameobject if you want to setowner of the current udon object.

[wind atlas]

For this to work, you will need to create GameObjects in the middle of the destinations (the white images) that you already have. The people cards will be parented onto them, which means you can animate the parent and the children will move with them.

The second one is for resetting the game, which you probably also need.

[gusty dune]

What do you put in the destination transform variable?

[wind atlas]

The GameObjects list I mentioned above.

Basically, this will be the start state of your hierarchy:

[gusty dune]

Ah so you dont use an object pool for the destinations, just the position and rotation parameters from the game object

[wind atlas]

Yeah, basically. This will happen after populate:

[gusty dune]

This is the object and variable setup currently, havent started with the graphs yet

I've gotten lost in the complexity but I set this up but it doesn't do anything when hitting the button

Does transform Set localPosition and localRotation sync between players or just locally?

[wind atlas]

No, it does not. You are right, this needs to be handled. Usually, people just attach VRCObjectSync to each pool object, but I feel like that's not necessary in your case, since the cards won't be move around that much.

An easy solution would be to do a SendCustomNetworkEvent after the For loop Exit.

Then on that event, you loop over every Transform and reset the local position and rotation.

Enable/Disable is handled by the pool already.

[gusty dune]

Right now it's not doing anything. I'm not good at debugging udon using unity

[wind atlas]

If it crashed, then the console probably has a message. You could try posting that.

[gusty dune]

Its not crashing. In your video you are able to run the script directly in Unity, how is this done?

[wind atlas]

https://github.com/CyanLaser/CyanEmu

[gusty dune]

Right now I'm using the Build & test option

[wind atlas]

Get that, it will save you so much time.

[gusty dune]

Installing

I got it installed and was able to run around and run the _Interact script manually, but there are no errors in the console when doing so. Any clues what to try next?

[hollow smelt]

same i have that problem too

not sure if your fixed yours?

[scarlet lake]

I forgot but will check now

[hollow smelt]

ok!

[gusty dune]

After running it did populate the game objects

But nothing is showing up

ahh

The parent is disabled, so the child is also disabled

[wind atlas]

The destinations are pools?

Yeah, pool will disable them automatically. Do they have to be pools?

[gusty dune]

If I manually enable they were moved

So question is, can the objects be placed without being the child of the destination?

[wind atlas]

I currently don't see why the destinations have to be in a pool and disabled by default.

[gusty dune]

I'm not actually sure what disables them by default in the first place. The pool I thought was required

They are enabled in the editor

[wind atlas]

Ehm, I wrote why, it's the pool. The way a pool works is, you have a bunch of objects that are already defined in memory. Then you can take one out whenever you need it. For example snowballs for a snowball spawner. You have a specific amount of snowballs predefined so they don't have to be created each time you need one.

To do that, the VRC Pool disables each objects until you need one of them.

In your case, the card destinations are static, you only have a specific amount. That's why I don't think you need a pool for them.

[gusty dune]

Ah sorry. Hm, I did read in a previous discussion that pool are required for syncing. I'll try removing it

[wind atlas]

They are only required for syncing if you want the enabled/disabled state to be synced.

[gusty dune]

Nice I got populating the red cards working in the emulator! Now to get this synced for all players before doing the same with blue and the "who" cards for both

[wind atlas]

Have you tried: #udon-general message

[gusty dune]

I shuffled the cards and joined on another account testing and the cards are in the same position for both. Also when shuffling it shows the same for all players!

Only the first joiner (the instance owner I assume?) can shuffle the cards however, if another player shuffles the cards reset to their original positions

[wind atlas]

Oh, so you must've the VRCObjectSync component on your cards, right? Try shuffling the cards with both players. I'm not sure how the non master will behave.

Yeah, I was fearing that.

[gusty dune]

Its not actually bad to only have the instance owner be allowed to shuffle cards though

However, the other players shouldnt be able to do so at all

Avoids someone joining and ruining an ongoing game

[wind atlas]

Yeah, check for the owner (Networking -> IsOwner) right at the beginning, before you do anything.

[gusty dune]

Hmmm something strange. Getting some penrose triangle weirdness for the populated objects when trying to pick up and move them afterwards. Any clues what this is about?

This just happens for the instance owner, for other players it shows correctly

[shy cipher]

ive reinstalled: the sdk, unity, and made a new map with nothing but a platform. and it still doesnt work

[wind atlas]

Are your cards pickups?

Ahh, nevermind. The cards look fine (they transform with the frame).

I'm not sure why exactly it happens, this is definitely some kind of issue with Pickups.

[shy cipher]

whenever i export it just shows the camera instead of the menu

can anyone help?

i have reinstalled the sdk and unity

still doesnt work

[gusty dune]

Could it be that Unity doesn't register that the rendering for the object has moved so its being drawn from the initial perspective?

[wind atlas]

The issue shouldn't be positions, it's scaling.

Show the transform of the pickup parent.

Scaling there can't be weird.

[shy cipher]

can somebody help?

[wind atlas]

Do you have the right Unity and SDK version? Did you follow the steps of whatever packages you are installing properly? Is the scene truly fresh?

[wind atlas]

Your issue sounds like some camera is overriding your view.

[shy cipher]

i have unity 2019.4.31f1

and the latest ver of sdk2

avatars work just fine

[wind atlas]

I was talking about the parent of your pickup. I assume it's DestinationCardsRed.

[shy cipher]

just when ever i upload a world it happens

picture of it

[wind atlas]

General rule of thumb, do not have weird scaling on Pickups, or any container game objects. Only scale the actual meshes, and separate them from pickups.

[wind atlas]

I have no idea about SDK2. Make sure you do everything that's written in the documentation.

[shy cipher]

yup

[gusty dune]

Oh like here, it should be 1,1,1 for x,y,x scale?

[shy cipher]

its just a vrc world and a floor

nothing else

[wind atlas]

Maybe, I still don't know where your pickup is exactly. The parent of that list also should be 1,1,1.

But yeah, I don't remember what the solution for that exactly is, just play around with the scale and follow my guidelines. Should be fixed then.

[gusty dune]

Looks like this fixed it! Awesome thanks

At least in the emulator

[shy cipher]

welp guess im screwed

[wind atlas]

Nice, transforms should work in game too.

[gusty dune]

@wind atlas I'm not sure about the UDON logic here, do I split the output from the Shuffle node? I'm going to use the same cards for both Blue and Red side but there is only one output

My For loop is going through all the redDestinations but I need another For loop for the blueDestinations

Do I need to save them in a variable for each loop?

[wind atlas]

So there are duplicates between the two players?

Is that what you are saying?

There are no duplicates for the same player, right?

[gusty dune]

I think both the red and blue board should be the same if I remember the rules right

[wind atlas]

Well, if you say that there are no duplicates at all, that's the easiest to do because you can just create a single Destinations array for both blue and red.

If you want duplicates, then you want to create 2 pools (just copy paste your current one). That's probably the easiest way.

Then do the logic you have twice for each pool/destination pair.

[gusty dune]

Trying to remember exactly the rules, I think both boards can be different, but the 1 chosen "who card" needs to be one from the opponents board, otherwise it would be impossible to guess it. If both sides are identical it makes the game easier but you risk both picking the same person.

So I should shuffle each side individually, then pick one random card from the opponents shuffle.

I figured out how to check the instance owner.

[wind atlas]

Yeah, getting a specific card from the opposition is slightly more tricky. But it's possible with both solutions.

Since you assign the Transforms in the editor, you know which ones are which sides. So you could just check for a specific index in the for loop and use that card for the other person.

Here is what I mean by the way:

[gusty dune]

I can do that in code but not in this node system. Thank you, I was searching for old examples

[wind atlas]

It's a bit ugly, but I'm trying to solve this without many extra steps. This is where using udon sharp is better.

[gusty dune]

Yeah

[wind atlas]

Are you aware of UdonSharp? Get it and you can write C# like code for udon.

[gusty dune]

I know of it, but I'm rusty on object oriented programming and would have even more trouble doing that I think so trying out the node system.

[wind atlas]

You always need the machine code to be compile so the scripts actually work.

[wind atlas]

Many of the OOP concepts aren't even supported though. The old version can't even have custom classes.

[blissful shore]

any good tutorials on making a video player with multiple URLs? like avideo juke box kinda

[wind atlas]

Either way, I hope what I posted helps. It's a bit hacky but should do the job. I'll be unavailable for a while.

[gusty dune]

Ah, last time I wrote C# was in 2005 when about Microsoft Visual Studio came out so I'm very rusty

Thank you so much for all the help I'm learning a lot ! ❤️

[blissful shore]

Need help making a video player, I tried to use a simple toggle switch to change the url of youtube videos but only getting audio for 1 and both audio and video for the other.

[thorn wolf]

How would one change multiple Floats into a Vector2 in Udon

[blissful shore]

dont know if this answers your question but Momo the monster said this a while ago . I hope this helps

Momo the Monster — 08/09/2021
Yeah, variable serialization/deserialization order is not guaranteed. If you absolutely need variables to be updated at the same time, you'll need to use a struct that can include them both, or an array. This is how the new Video Player Example works, keeping two floats in a Vector2 to ensure they are always updated together: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/udon-video-sync-player#update-time-and-offset

[thorn wolf]

Thanks for the help!

[blissful shore]

@thorn wolf high5!

Hi everone, I hope all is well this week. I'm trying to make one video player that plays 1 video at a time but changes the video according to which toggle is clicked . any pointers, udon graphs tutorial videos?

[blissful shore]

I'm going to attempt to convert this tasty music player script to make a scrumptious video player script...

[cedar iron]

I have a gun that shoots rigidbody pucks. How do I tell if the pucks collide with something?

[blissful shore]

that sounds awesome @cedar iron

I wish I could answer that

[mossy crane]

Make sure the pucks have a Trigger collider on them, and that their layer is either default or can hit player/playerlocal in the collision matrix. then on that puck you can put a udon graph with OnPlayerTriggerEnter event

The event lets you grab the player that was hit as a reference to do stuff to that player

And heres a example to test if it hits anything else

Im getting the layer of the thing it collided with, and all layers are numbered in order from 0-20+ so if you want to test if it was on Default layer you test Layer = 0

the DeflectLayer is just a number which for me is 23

[cedar iron]

I have a gun that shoots, but one of the two instances has the ammo freezing in place...

[mossy crane]

is it object pool or instantiate?

or a animation

[cedar iron]

neither, it's a cloned rigidbody

[mossy crane]

is the ammo visible on the gun? Like live rounds just sitting there until you move it and fire it?

or is the ammo and the puck a different object

[cedar iron]

they're elsewhere in the world

separate objects

[mossy crane]

And do each gun have their own ammo they take from, or is it a shared pool

[cedar iron]

it's one gun. The puck on the floor is the one that is duplicated

[mossy crane]

does the puck have its rigidbody with Is Kinematic checkmarked or unchecked?

[cedar iron]

no

[mossy crane]

and what happends when it collides with something, is it suppose to freeze?

[cedar iron]

"nebula animations" is the one who is developing this, keep the conversation with him

he's typing now

[fossil parrot]

Heyo! Currently the object work on the host client but stutters on the secondary clients. will send video

[mossy crane]

do you use Object Sync on your rigidbody to handle the syncing of position?

[fossil parrot]

Yes

Left is the host

[mossy crane]

Hmmm, the Object Sync is probably gunna look choppy just because its not very good at updating moving stuff like that. but the fact it just freezes for 1 client and functions properly for another is weird, looks to be something to do with your collision event. what all happends after the puck hits the cube

[fossil parrot]

Here is what powers the gun

And here is what happens on the hit

[mossy crane]

and what does the puck look like in the inspector?

[fossil parrot]

The second chunk of code is placed directly on the cube

[mossy crane]

Udon usually prefers a "Manual Sync" on the udon behavior vs a continuous for syncing stuff, especially for guns and firing stuff like that try making a blank gameobject called ManualSync or something

then a new Udon Graph called like ManualSync

and add that to the Manual Sync Object

heres my gun i use for instance that syncs well

the SpawnBullet1 is just a Public UdonBehavior variable on my gun, that i point to the ManualSyncs Udonbehavior to call a event

Then basically this on the ManualSync except add whatever you want it to do after instantiate

[fossil parrot]

Setting it up rn.

[mossy crane]

Its a bit much, but once familiar will help alot with syncing stuff. Imagine SendNetworkEvent as a 1-3 second timer based on latency

And a Manual Sync Serialize/Deserialize, is a .3 second reaction

bit more to set up, but worth

[fossil parrot]

Holy cow, yeah. Im trying to wrap my head around how you set this up. Getting slightly confused on where to put the manual sync script

[mossy crane]

and i dont use Object sync on my bullets

and it looks good for everyone still

manualsync just has its own Udon Behaviour and i use the ProgramSource as the new graph

[fossil parrot]

Ohhhhhhhh ok, i gotta incorporate this into my current setup

[mossy crane]

maybe backup/save a prefab of what you got

in case

[fossil parrot]

If you would be interested in a VC id be down.

[mossy crane]

That would work

[vernal magnet]

Hi everyone. I'm trying to make a script where the default Unity fog changes locally when a player walks into a trigger collider, and changes back when I exit. This is what I have so far and it doesn't do anything. What am I missing?

[tepid salmon]

You not conectet the onplayertriggers with the branch

[vernal magnet]

Ah pff that would help, thank you.

[vernal magnet]

Is there a way I can check for the original fog density and set it back to that, instead of using another variable?

[tepid salmon]

No idea inam no expert i only seeyet that you not conectet the branch sorry

[vernal magnet]

Ah okay, thanks.

[tepid salmon]

Np

[blissful shore]

@mossy crane do you by chance know how to make a video player that plays different youtube url's according to which ever toggle button is clicked?

[vernal magnet]

Okay, got the colliders working properly and even set a nice transition, but when I enter the world immediately transitions to no fog and the transition doesn't work properly until I enter the collider once. Any idea as to why?

[mossy crane]

Sorry was still in call, unfortunately i havent messed with VideoPlayers yet 😦

[indigo finch]

you want a event start node to change targetDensity to = defaultDensity when the game begins

[vernal magnet]

Thank you! It's actually yours and Juice's conversation back in November (good ol' keyword search) that I used to make this code in the first place, so I appreciate it! 😄

[indigo finch]

Ah, neat ^^

[blissful shore]

thanks anyway

[wind atlas]

What video player are you using? Usually, they should've some sort of method you can call to start a specific url. A VRCURL variable (or whatever it's called) is usually used for that.

[vale skiff]

Does anyone know where I can get an asset that would allow players to fly ing my vrc world?

[thorn wolf]

are there any lists/tables in Udon?

[vestal mist]

im having a issue with udon sharp and its aborting the Upload something about udonsharpbuildcompile

[wind atlas]

People usually mean different things by those words. Udon does have arrays. Generics from C# like List or Dictionary are not supported.

[wind atlas]

Look at the console, it should tell you what the error is.

[thorn wolf]

Good to know 👍

[vestal mist]

i just fixed it i just reimported the UdonSharp

Its it easy to add a Animated Image in to the World?

Like a Gif

[wind atlas]

I heard people do it as sheet animations using shaders.

[wind atlas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrA18CITEVs

[junior vortex]

This maybe random but is there a record for most bottles balanced in vrchat?

[dapper lion]

no but my personal record is like 7 and a wine glass. also wrong channel

[hollow smelt]

so for some reason when i pickup this item here it starts to shake violently

when i check is trigger in box collider it stops but then the object just falls thru the ground

so you need to act fast to get it before if falls thru tthe objectt

mmm it stops when i dont use gravity

weird

[visual elm]

can i get some help with particles for Udon?

i want it to be a sequence when playing the first partickle, the second one plays, is it possible?

[primal ocean]

Is my SDK broken? I am using the new sdk but I am missing udon behavior. Is there a fix for this? I was able to upload the world and I can create graphs with this project. What am I missing?

[dapper lion]

add component -> udon behavior to slider

[primal ocean]

Ah... I added it to the canvas but not the slider as well. Thank you

[dapper lion]

only slider should need

[scarlet lake]

A script that locks players in xyz axis?

to be activated or deactivated with a button, do you know where I can find it?

[visual elm]

can i delay the particle to play?

[gusty dune]

Can the same object from a VRCObjectPool only be spawned once per script?
I'm continuing working on the "Guess Who" board of cards from a shuffled pool. But when the same card is being placed via a transform SetLocalPosition and SetLocalRotation a second time, it doesn't seem to get placed. I could be mistaken though of what is wrong.

[night viper]

I believe the particle system has a "Start Delay" setting you can use

[visual elm]

ohhh, hmmm, i'll give it a try

[wind atlas]

Hmm, you are right, that was an oversight. My script just uses the card for the other person and skips it (leaving it empty). You can't really have duplicates like that, unfortunately.

We could create a duplicate ourselves just to display it for the user.

I'll write some udon code for that, might as well. Just getting kinda annoying working with Udon, this is exactly when I'd use UdonSharp.

[gusty dune]

Could it work by having a secondary pool? That might not be as elegant though

[wind atlas]

You can't really get a specific card in a pool. The whole idea behind a pool is to have generic objects.

So if you look at red side, select one to show to the blue player, we don't know which one it would be in a pool.

[gusty dune]

Can you make a copy of the child from the destination pools after it has been picked from the pool?

For example duplicating the child contained inside
DestinationCardsBlue\GuessWhoCardDest (1)
and
DestinationCardsRed\GuessWhoCardDest (1)
and place the duplicate at the opposite side

[wind atlas]

That was my idea as well. The only unfortunate thing here is networking it to all users.

[gusty dune]

Ah damn

[wind atlas]

Are you okay with using UdonSharp?

[gusty dune]

I can try, it's already gone way above my head so I'm pretty much dependent on your help anyway. I do appreciate it but I understand if you dont want to help with most of the work

[wind atlas]

Yeah, I also feel like I'm to deep to quit. But that's okay, I think it's an interesting problem.

Just going to do it in UdonSharp real quick. Will be a lot easier for me.

[gusty dune]

haha ok thanks again

[brazen epoch]

is set Transform.rotation additive? I'm trying to rotate an object over a Time.fixedDeltaTime, but supplying the previous values of the Quaternion to a new Quaternion seems to be additive

This code causes the Object to follow multiple axis' of rotation when the code should only support 1 axis

public void Start()
{
    previous_interval = interval_min;
    RecalculateStep();
}

public void FixedUpdate()
{
    if (interval_min != previous_interval)
    {
        previous_interval = interval_min;
        RecalculateStep();
    }

    if (rotation > 360 || rotation < -360) rotation = 0;

    float finalStep = axis_negative ? -step : step;

    rotation += finalStep;

    if (axis == "x") transform.rotation = new Quaternion(rotation, transform.rotation.y, transform.rotation.z, transform.rotation.w);
    else if (axis == "y") transform.rotation = new Quaternion(transform.rotation.x, rotation, transform.rotation.z, transform.rotation.w);
    else if (axis == "z") transform.rotation = new Quaternion(transform.rotation.x, transform.rotation.y, rotation, transform.rotation.w);
}

private void RecalculateStep()
{
    step = ((interval_min * 60) / 360) * (Time.fixedDeltaTime / 60);
}

Transform.Rotate is not additive, but this doesn't sync which is what my goal is

[brazen epoch]

seems like I just had to mess with eulerAngles instead

[wind atlas]

This works in testing, I made it a bit different from before.

You don't need a VRC Pool anymore (it wasn't necessary anyway). You can just remove that one, and just assign the parent Transform of all the cards to Cards Pool:

[gusty dune]

Awesome, will take some time for me to digest. Does that not network desync though?

[wind atlas]

When do you think it will desync?

Oh yeah, and to make sure: You have to remove the VRC Pool component otherwise the script won't work.

[wind atlas]

Ok, use this one please. Just a small thing got changed (last version should also work, just will spawn some cards at the beginning).

And yes, it's a lot to digest, it got more complicated than I thought it would.

I can answer questions, if you have any.

[gusty dune]

Hmm I'm looking at it, don't you need to declare an event to interact for it to show up in the Udon behavior script?

https://ask.vrchat.com/t/archived-phaxenors-examples-graph-u/273/4

[wind atlas]

Oh yeah, you can create a separate udon graph for interact.

Just create a UdonBehavior and call SendCustomEvent after interact on that udon.

[wind atlas]

I did it like this:

[gusty dune]

Im confused about mixing graphs with UDon Sharp, when I add multiple Udon behavior scripts to the same object you get this warning

Or do you add it to a different object?

[grand temple]

you can have multiple udonbehaviours on the same object, you just can't mix continuous and manual

[wind atlas]

I put it on a different object. And yeah, it's referring to the Synchronization Method field.

[grand temple]

if one of those behaviours does not have any synced variables then it doesn't matter what sync method it's set to

[gusty dune]

Hey Phase, nice seeing you here 👋

In the methodName variable for the script how do you reference the other Udon behavior? As it's a string, do you enter the name of the UdonSharp Program in the local folder?

Sorry if I'm not understanding it properly

[wind atlas]

Method name is just a a string of the method name. So _Populate or _Reset in this case.

You drag the script into the udon variable.

[gusty dune]

Oh you have to drag from the script property in the inspector from the GameObject, not the script in the heirarchy editor

[wind atlas]

Yes, the hierarchy. You can just drag the gameobject that udon script is on and it should work.

[gusty dune]

Holy heck its working. Thank you so much

Doubt this map will ever get popular but I'll add a thank you note to you in the map description

[wind atlas]

Hey, I appreciate it. I am a bit afraid that the script I wrote isn't the best for learning though, if that was your goal. I just saw how your world is almost finished, with 3D models and all, and wanted to help.

[gusty dune]

Even though I can't follow along all the code I think I have a good idea how to get started and learned how to declare variables and connect Unity components together. I really do appreciate it! It was an idea from Zzyzzx of the Gator Crew to make a Guess Who of all its members and now there is one, its not the prettiest but it works!

[wind atlas]

Well, glad it fullfills that purpose then.

[feral valve]

When I unpack ukeyboard prefab to delete thinks I dont want, the chat canvas no longer works. It doesn't go on the board for others to read.

[blissful vapor]

how would you make a spectator UI like in jar's worlds?

[mossy crane]

So im using rigidbody instantiation for my projectiles(I know its shameful). Would I be able to do a decent raycast favor the shooter style hit detection... but simulate a believable bullet still "travelling" to the person hit

[indigo finch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7pN8QYTGBQ

[brazen epoch]

Use a camera and a Custom Render Texture. CRTs can go on any material where any other texture can. If you want icons to follow objects in the spectator screen but not show to the players, you need to set the icons in the Mirror Reflection layer and make sure the camera is showing that layer.

you should set the update frequency of the CRT to something reasonable like 0.2 0.3 instead of 0.0 as the default since updating every frame is usually in-perceivable and wasteful of system resources.

[topaz sorrel]

So I need multiple cameras that all sync up to their own individual monitors, like I need 5 cameras and have each one show on two different monitors, so like 10 monitors total, two of each showing the perspective of one camera

[keen crystal]

I made interactable doors and want them to only be usable by certain players, can i filter by usernames in udon? Ideally i‘d like to use a hard coded list of players

[iron vault]

I'm having an issue with avatar pedastals in my world. Seems like no matter what I do they stop working. If I drag in one, it works fine, I can remove it's base & all that no worries. If I duplicate it, they all stop working. If I drag in 10 individual ones none of them work. A friend sent me a prefab of a working one from their work, works fine till it's duplicated, then it all dies again

It seems like all my settings are correct & nothing else has changed but nothing makes them function

They all appear in the game, have the right icons in them, but clicking them does absolutely nothing

Nothing appears in the console, and their doesn't appear to be any actual errors in the debug in-game

They're all on the environment layer but, even on default or any of the others it just doesn't function

Any ideas appreciated. This has been doing my head in cause it seems to be broken for no reason at all

[keen crystal]

could it be that the id for each pedestal stays the same when you copy paste them, and that causes conflicts?

[iron vault]

i've changed all their ID's and nothing

and if I drag in the default ones that all have the same ID for the robot, they all work & change your avatar

until I modify them at all, it seems

[iron vault]

E V E N better

made a backup of my project

followed the instructions on how to update the SDK which is legit "close it, delete the files, re-open it"

and now the project will not open so, I guess I never get to update my sdk again

[mighty fjord]

Did you try unpacking the prefabs after placing them into the scene?

[iron vault]

Yep, they still break if I modify them

[scarlet lake]

There’s this weird bug on the Quest and Quest 2 where the default viewing method for avatars is set to fallback. Is there a way to change this?

I know I can change them individually but idk how to set it so I can see all user-made avatars server-wide

[dapper lion]

this is normal for performance reasons, this is also a world scripting channel

[scarlet lake]

Oh

[iron vault]

Issues seems to come from turning them off in the game? I have the pedestals & the platform they're on disabled by a button, if I put a pedastal out there & leave it enabled, and put the exact same one on the switch, it breaks.

[mighty fjord]

You can't make the user switch to an avatar of a pedestal which is turned off, could that be what's causing what you're describing?

[iron vault]

Nah so, theres a button that enables a bridge & platform, with the avatar pedastals on that platform, the button turns them all on at once

if the pedastal is placed out there & left on, it functions fine. if it's put under the same toggled game object as the platform, it doesn't work

it's turned on, visible in game and you can click the object, but it will not change avatars

[ripe crescent]

does anyone has examples to toggle seperate objects at FX layers on VRC avartars?

[modest rapids]

hello all, would someone please spend 10 mins or so to walk me through some udon graph stuff, (i struggle to understand videos or explanation so id like to share my screen) i only need toggles for on and off and a sleep mode (so lights dimming and screens off and a few things changing via the toggle like my roof changing to a different roof and sky box changing)

[dapper lion]

there is toggle graph inside the vrchat-examples folder

[lean herald]

is it possible to call a variable from another udon script? If so how?

[modest rapids]

i know that but i dont know where to place things or what to replace or how to connect it all via a button, i have no idea, ive been on youtube but the things they search i dont have so im not sure if they outdated or whatever

[dapper lion]

make cube, click cube in hierarchy, go to inspector, add component -> udon behaviour, add toggle graph into the empty slot in component, put game object you what to toggle in the toggle object box, move thay cube in your scene to where you wanna be able to click it, and build and upload/test and see if it toggles the thing

[modest rapids]

okay done all that and it doesnt work 😦

[dapper lion]

send ss of inspector of cube and whole unity window

[modest rapids]

can i share my screen?

[dapper lion]

no

[modest rapids]

thanks :/

[scarlet lake]

how crap is nav pathfinding performance? Does udon create any overhead?

[peak ether]

does anyone know how to make like a car or like a surfboard or those kind of physics on a gameobject in unity with like udon or scripts to then upload in your world ??

or like does anyone know any tutorials Because I cant find any

[long lark]

Hi, trying to make an audio stop when toggled again this is the script so far, what do I add?

[wispy scaffold]

Hi everyone, I gotta probably simple issue that I just can't figure out. Whenever I make an interactive object, and use it in testing it disappears out of the map.

Anyone know why?

[long lark]

omg thank you so much

[dapper lion]

if its a pickup, try turning off gravity, if you have occlussion culling, try rebaking with smaller settings, if its a pickup with occlusion, i would unstatic it if its static

[mossy crane]

Have you had this answered yet?

You can go into a graph and top left add a Udonbehavior variable, and then click the drop down and make it public, then compile. Then in the inspector on that gameobject you can drag the gameobject with the other udonbehavior you want into the blank space, then you can GetUdonbehavior or set udonbehavior variables

And it will have a drop down of valid variables

[long lark]

I don’t know where to find the playing and set playing nodes? I’m very new udon sorry :(

[topaz jetty]

you have to make a variable on the left of type bool

on the left it says variables

press the plus and then type in bool, set the name to playing by double clicking the name

then drag the name playing in, and then drag it in again but this time while holding CTRL

[long lark]

Thank you your a life saver!

[uneven sphinx]

Is there any documentation on creating worlds/games using script instead of the graphs?

[mossy crane]

Look up UdonSharp, it’s a C# style scripting that uses Udon behaviors. It’s a separate download but it’s highly recommended

U#

[uneven sphinx]

Cheers

Is it the git repo by merlinvr?

[wind atlas]

Yeah, you can find some useful information in the wiki there too.

[uneven sphinx]

Nice

[wind atlas]

But honestly, most of scripting is about knowing the Unity API too.

[lean herald]

thanks, but i did managed to do without using the int,(but this will help)

[wind atlas]

You won't find a specific step by step tutorial like that. Your best bet is to learn the Unity API, what's possible, probably check out other packages, take some of their ideas, and then implement your own thing.

[uneven sphinx]

True, I have some experience with unity (more personal projects) so hope I'll be fine.

[wind atlas]

The performance should be fine for the most part. As long as you don't want to do pathfinding each frame for lots of units. This is only from what I've seen though, I haven't done intensive stuff with it myself.

[wind atlas]

Yeah, if you already have experience, then the biggest challenge is learning some VRC specific stuff. The worst thing is that you need to put Triggers on the MirrorReflection layer because it will block the in game lazer otherwise.

Hard to figure out some stuff, so just ask people or search the discord.

[uneven sphinx]

Will do, cheers.

[scarlet lake]

hmm well im not sure how unity pathfinding works but if the target is moving itd have to continiously recalc no?

[wispy scaffold]

Pickups work. It's whenever I script a button for some reason.

[wind atlas]

Hmm, no idea about specifics actually, it's been a while. But I do think it's fine for most use cases even if you calculate the path each frame.

[wind atlas]

Seems like you only calculate it once with this, for example: https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/AI.NavMeshAgent.SetDestination.html

[dapper lion]

is there any missing varibles/references in the behaviour?

[wispy scaffold]

It compiles correctly.

Console is clear

It quite literally deletes the object.

[uneven sphinx]

When a player leaves the instance, if they are the owner of an object, does it automatically transfer to a new person? Or is that something you have to do your self?

[wind atlas]

That's what they meant, you don't have a reference to the mirror.

It shows this

So of course it disappears.

[wind atlas]

Yeah, it will transfer by itself.

[wispy scaffold]

So this

Gotcha

[uneven sphinx]

Nice

[uneven sphinx]

Hmm, are lists not supported by udonsharp?

[blissful vapor]

ok, I had a question

How would you make audio sources play if an event happens? (ie, Player grabs objective, time is running out, team A or B is in the lead, or Team A or B is losing)

[fiery yoke]

They are not supported by Udon itself. UdonSharp can only implement things that Udon allows for. Lists (or more generally Generics) are not part of that.

[blissful vapor]

so how would i do this? Im asking because im trying to make a game world

[wind atlas]

Different ways. If you already have an AudioSource, you can enable/disable it with PlayOnAwake turned on.

You can enable/disable it using animations or udon scripts.

You could also call AudioSource -> Play in an udon script instead.

[blissful vapor]

ok thanks

[wind atlas]

Also, you can do AudioSource.PlayClipAtPoint. It doesn't even need an AudioSource for that, it will be spawned and deleted for you.

[blissful vapor]

nice

[wind atlas]

Not as optimized, but sometimes get the job done.

[blissful vapor]

thanks

[blissful vapor]

ok sorry for asking too many questions, how do i make game options, and a start game button

[uneven sphinx]

When a player enters a trigger, how you you know it was the player?

[modest rapids]

whats wrong?

[wind atlas]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/player-collisions

[wind atlas]

You'd use a regular canvas and put it in world space position, so people with headsets can see it.
The details depend entirely on your game.

[night viper]

How are you calling the custom event called "toggle"? If you are just trying to "click" on an object/cube you would use the event "Interact" instead of a custom event.

[blissful vapor]

thanks

[modest rapids]

thankyouu, by default it was that hence why i didnt know what was wrong

[wispy scaffold]

It says udon graph can not be used in play mode, yet I'm not in play mode? Any fix or do I just have to reopen the project every time this happens?

[grand temple]

I haven't heard of that issue, can you take a picture?

[wispy scaffold]

I'd have to run into it again, I just restarted the project to use it.

Sorry, But for sure I will @ you when it happens again at that point.

@grand temple

[grand temple]

oh, can you go to the console and take a look at that error? Something looks broken

[grand temple]

are you using udonsharp?

[wispy scaffold]

No, yet they're sharp errors

[grand temple]

did you intentionally import udonsharp yourself or did it come included in some other package?

[wispy scaffold]

Included I would assume

I did not do it intentionally.

[grand temple]

ah, whoever made that package that included it should not have done that. It will definitely break things

You should try closing unity, deleting udonsharp from the project, then reopening unity. If you want to use scripts that require udonsharp, you can install it from here https://github.com/MerlinVR/UdonSharp/releases

[wispy scaffold]

How do I remove Udonsharp from the project? Is it in a folder in the project?

[grand temple]

yes it is

[wispy scaffold]

Okay thankyou

[visual elm]

i need someone with full knowledge in Keypads

when i want to enter the correct passcode, the sound should play, i can't figure it out how

can someone assist me?

[flint urchin]

What do you have so far?

[visual elm]

these 2:

i don't know if onenable is the right option

and the sound file is parented to that file

when i put in the right code, game object plays within several udon graphs, but the sound

[visual elm]

@flint urchin is there anything that needs changing?

[flint urchin]

OnEnable requires the object to have been enabled once first.

[visual elm]

hmmmmm

[flint urchin]

Idk what this single object does, but you could remove it all together and use PlayOneShot in the one that triggers this behaviour

[visual elm]

one sec

on the keypad switch, most were normally toggles as i switched out from interact to OnEnable

like this?

[flint urchin]

No, sorry, depending on how your main udon behaviours are set up, you could use that in there

As you want to use this, you'll need to trigger it with Start, as the object is disabled in the beginning

[visual elm]

oooh, i see, one sec

so when i set that to start, when the object turns on, it plays right away?

[flint urchin]

It should yeah

[visual elm]

ok, i'll test it

[flint urchin]

(Don't need to use PlayOneShot then, so you can revert back to the other one)

[visual elm]

but when the game object is parent to the keypad switch, when it gets turned on, the object that is already on plays with start event, correct?

[flint urchin]

yeah

[visual elm]

ok, gotcha

[flint urchin]

Why I recommend you look up how PlayOneShot works, as you'll be able to reduce the amount of active audio sources you have at any given time (as we only have a limited amount).

But that does require a bit of rework of your graphs. So for a later time ^^

[visual elm]

i see

i tried it, sound played, but it cut out quickly

most of these udon behaviors in this keypad switch are set like each of these objects

@flint urchin anything needs changing?

[flint urchin]

If the audio clip is short, then yeah it will cut out quickly ^^

[visual elm]

the thing is, the audio's lenth of a sound is 00:00.5, it only played to 00:00.1

length

yeah, it's not playing the whole thing

what do i do?

[elder frigate]

is there a basic combat system for Udon?

[visual elm]

i just improvised an idea

make a trigger to play the sound within the trigger box

[valid totem]

Is there a built in way to handle sorting arrays? Array.Sort doesn't seem to be available unless I'm mistaken

[slate orchid]

how do i make it so when i pick a item up it plays a sound

[mossy crane]

Audio source on game object you want to pick up

Some sound clip in your project

New Audioclip variable in the graph, make it public

Drag the reference in

@slate orchid

[slate orchid]

can someone show me how to do this in udon graph

OnColliderEnter(Collider other)
{
if (other.gameObject.GetComponent<SomeComponentThatOnlyTheBarrelHas>() != null) ((Barrel)other.gameObject.GetComponent(typeof(UdonBehavior))).DecreaseHealth();
}

@mossy crane

[mossy crane]

Hmm gunna need to clarify the intended function

Collide with something, see if that something has a certain component, if it does, get that game objects behavior and decrease health?

@slate orchid

and as long as the object being collided with has a matching Custom Event to your string it should fire

[slate orchid]

i want it so when the bullet hits a box the box exposes

[mossy crane]

This should do that

if you put this on the bullet

[slate orchid]

do i put it on the box or bullet

oki

[mossy crane]

and the box is existing in the scene

with another graph with a Custom Event named for instance DecreaseHealth

[slate orchid]

there is some udon# my friend wrote for the bullet tho

[mossy crane]

I dabble in graphs more than U# so I wont be able to help much i feel, but this first request seemed easy enough to understand lol

[slate orchid]

can i put too udon behaviors on it

cus i do not understand udon# and do not want to rewrite what works

@mossy crane where do i get the set other behavior

[mossy crane]

the variable on the left named OtherBehaviour, when you drag it into the graph, holding ctrl and dropping will set

instead of use

[slate orchid]

ooooooo oki

soo how would i set it so that it set off another udon Behaviour

[mossy crane]

you have your bullet, with a collider, looking for the cube collider

thats the graph

then as long as the cube that got hit has its own graph

[weak violet]

What's udon

[mossy crane]

start with that on the cube