#udon-general | VRChat | Page 40

olive orchid Jan 4, 2021, 9:46 PM

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You have excellent beginner tutorials btw. Its really helped me get going, so thanks!

cunning mist Jan 4, 2021, 9:47 PM

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Glad to help, I plan on continuing more, but at the moment college is taking priority.

olive orchid Jan 4, 2021, 9:47 PM

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absolutely

void ridge Jan 4, 2021, 10:02 PM

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olive orchid You have excellent beginner tutorials btw. Its really helped me get going, so th...

Second this. I've both made and curated tutorials for games and tools, and I rate Vowgan's highly 🙂

unreal grail Jan 4, 2021, 10:18 PM

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I'm trying to find the most efficient way to handle a variable sync where part of the variables are local. Here's the scenario--it's a tabletop roleplaying game being done in VRChat.
7 users are in the instance. One is the game master.There are 6 "character variables" scripts, which hold the character's stats, and one "LocalPlayer variables" which is an empty version of the character variables. When the player selects a character, the variables of the selected character are copied to the LocalPlayer variables. (the player's pop-up HUD, for example, pulls from the LocalPlayer variables.)
When the player does anything, like swinging a weapon, those scripts only have to look at the LocalPlayer Variables and calculate the result, displaying it somewhere the player can see. None of this data is network-synced.
This is fine if the GM relies on players to be honest, but I'd rather be able to spit out a player result that the DM can see. So if a player swings their sword, I'd love to be able to send the result string to a separate object/string only the GM can see. objects visible only to the GM are easy, but syncing variables is confusing me a lot.

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I've been trying to get it to work using a "middleman" object, but so far it's not successful

paper plinth Jan 4, 2021, 10:48 PM

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Why is the character's own data being displayed to the character?

unreal grail Jan 4, 2021, 10:49 PM

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@paper plinth as a character sheet, for reference.

paper plinth Jan 4, 2021, 10:49 PM

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Oh I'm sorry I misunderstood you want the result of the sword strike to be displayed to everyone?

unreal grail Jan 4, 2021, 10:50 PM

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Yes. Well, to the DM anyway.

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I don't ahve to worry so much about "everyone" seeing it because the text mesh where the result will display is only visible to the DM anyway

paper plinth Jan 4, 2021, 10:51 PM

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Any reason not to just give the target a hit box and hit points and a display and decrease the hp on a hit?

unreal grail Jan 4, 2021, 10:52 PM

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because dice rolls are being used for more than just combat

void ridge Jan 4, 2021, 11:08 PM

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Oh heck. Udon Behaviour ≠ just a place where you put the Udon program. The behaviour is a larger thing that defines stuff in SDK3.. It just also is the place you put Udon scripts 🙃 that just clicked for me 🌠

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So that's why "Synchronize Position" lives there... It's not defining something about the script (which would make no sense), it's defining something about the GameObject which is just specific to SDK3

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</thinkingaloud> is that right, or off the mark? 😛

paper plinth Jan 4, 2021, 11:10 PM

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Yeah and if you mess it up it breaks everything

unborn hornet Jan 4, 2021, 11:15 PM

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void ridge Oh heck. `Udon Behaviour` ≠ `just a place where you put the Udon program`. The b...

Spot on, ol' chap.

unreal grail Jan 4, 2021, 11:16 PM

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@paper plinth any suggestions on syncing this variable?

unborn hornet Jan 4, 2021, 11:16 PM

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🤔

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There was an asset floating around that might fit your needs... UNet was the name I believe. Lemme see if I can find the link again...

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https://github.com/Xytabich/UNet

GitHub

Xytabich/UNet

Udon Networking for VRChat. Contribute to Xytabich/UNet development by creating an account on GitHub.

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I havent used it myself, but the goal it is trying to accomplish seems like it might fit your use case. @unreal grail
Something worth looking into, at least

paper plinth Jan 4, 2021, 11:21 PM

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@unreal grail I would treat any dice rolls like combat where the outcome of the roll is displayed on a target

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And the parameters of the roll itself in the target as well

scarlet lake Jan 4, 2021, 11:24 PM

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When I try to "Build & Test" my world in the SDK, it just opens VRChat and doesn't actually bring me anywhere

unreal grail Jan 4, 2021, 11:24 PM

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Currently it displays the results in a HUD. The question is, how do I sync a variable to all players

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Once it's synced, I can do things with it for the DM, or other playerts

paper plinth Jan 4, 2021, 11:26 PM

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Make the outcome happen on the third object
Perhaps use udonprogram to pass the result of the roll as a public variable

unreal grail Jan 4, 2021, 11:27 PM

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When I do that, it is only visible to person who initiated the roll

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That's the problem

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@paper plinth confirmed it...even if I use a method to cause the outcome to occur on the third object, the resulting text is only changed for the local player, because nothing is syncronized.

floral dove Jan 4, 2021, 11:35 PM

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A synced variable will update on all other players via the 'OnDeserialization' event

paper plinth Jan 4, 2021, 11:36 PM

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Yeet

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There we go

floral dove Jan 4, 2021, 11:36 PM

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you can check out how this works in the Sync Examples included in the UdonExampleScene with the SDK

unreal grail Jan 4, 2021, 11:37 PM

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Yep, I've been looking at that and it's not qorking. But I'll go look at it again.

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@floral dove All of the examples use Udon graphs.

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How is it done in C#/ U#?

floral dove Jan 4, 2021, 11:39 PM

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that's right - UdonSharp is wonderful, but it's not made by VRChat or officially supported so we don't supply any examples for it.

unreal grail Jan 4, 2021, 11:40 PM

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I definitely understand it's not officially supported.

floral dove Jan 4, 2021, 11:40 PM

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but you can replicate a graph in code and vice versa

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you can find the Discord for UdonSharp from the UdonSharp wiki linked in this channel's pins. If you're looking for U# support, that's going to be your best bet.

twin drift Jan 4, 2021, 11:41 PM

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Is there anyway to debug udon in editor?

floral dove Jan 4, 2021, 11:42 PM

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twin drift Is there anyway to debug udon in editor?

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/debugging-udon-projects

twin drift Jan 4, 2021, 11:43 PM

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floral dove https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/debugging-udon-projects

I'm looking at that page and I don't see anything there for debugging outside of VRC

fiery yoke Jan 4, 2021, 11:44 PM

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You can use Debug.Log(string) to display a message in the console

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You can also use Gizmos to Debug, but those are a little more complicated

floral dove Jan 4, 2021, 11:44 PM

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those are your options for debugging. Udon runs UAssembly in a VM so you can't step through it in an IDE like you would for a native C# project.

fiery yoke Jan 4, 2021, 11:45 PM

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You could technically adjust the VM to be able to step through it tho :P
But then you would also need to understand assembly probably.
In general making it Debuggable like normal programs would require a lot of extra work

twin drift Jan 4, 2021, 11:46 PM

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fiery yoke You can use Debug.Log(string) to display a message in the console

Rad, thank you! Thought that was just for the log inside VRC

scarlet lake Jan 4, 2021, 11:59 PM

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When I try to "Build & Test" the game it just brings me to the VRChat home

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It doesn't bring me to the world I am making in Unity

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 12:08 AM

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That means the world didn't load, check the editor

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 12:08 AM

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scarlet lake When I try to "Build & Test" the game it just brings me to the VRChat home

double-check this: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/using-build-test#setting-up-your-settings

scarlet lake Jan 5, 2021, 12:23 AM

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I did everything on there. You think it has something to do with my accounts at all? Maybe I have to compile something? I doubt it though

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 12:24 AM

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scarlet lake I did everything on there. You think it has something to do with my accounts at ...

what happens when you Build & Test the UdonExampleScene?

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if that scene works, then check your console for errors in your own scene, you may have an issue there. If Build & Test doesn't work, then the issue is likely with your SDK or Client installation, but that's rare.

native estuary Jan 5, 2021, 12:26 AM

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https://github.com/oneVR/VRWorldToolkit/releases
Try my world tools to find issues with your scene/project, VRWorld Toolkit > World Debugger 😉

pliant barn Jan 5, 2021, 12:41 AM

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I have a super stupid question, i have a VRC world now but the player has no walking,sitting.running,crouch you get it no animation at all. Anyone has an idea why?

mighty fjord Jan 5, 2021, 12:48 AM

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Quick question, is there any good way to delay a network event currently?

frank lily Jan 5, 2021, 12:52 AM

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@floral dove i've been seeing a few people say that testing their worlds hasnt worked suddenly, i think it may be related to an issue me and a few others are having where upon booting vrchat, we dont load into our home world and get redirected to default home

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its like the first world you enter when opening the game doesnt work

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i can still enter my home world if i go there manually, but setting as home doesnt work

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i'm thinking the build and test is similar

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 12:53 AM

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pliant barn I have a super stupid question, i have a VRC world now but the player has no wal...

Did you use the default VRCWorld prefab provided in the SDK examples Asset folder? VRChat Examples -> Prefabs -> VRCWorld.prefab

pliant barn Jan 5, 2021, 12:53 AM

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yes

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 12:53 AM

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Do the fields in the VRCWorldSettings script have values greater than 0?

pliant barn Jan 5, 2021, 12:54 AM

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how do i check that?

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 12:54 AM

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It's in the inspector panel when you click on (to focus) the VRCWorld node in your project hierarchy.

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(might have to scroll to find it)

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You'll be looking for the "Public Variables" section

pliant barn Jan 5, 2021, 12:55 AM

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have thes it is set to 3 2 4 2

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 12:56 AM

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So that's fine. Other thing is are you trying to run VRC with the Unity play button, or by the Build & Test button?

pliant barn Jan 5, 2021, 12:57 AM

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i have the CyaEmu addon for testing

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and uh no i start it over steam

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like noraml people

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by the unity play button

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sorry

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misunderstood the questiob

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 12:59 AM

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lol np. Just to double check that it's not a problem with your world, can you use the Build & Test button to check that it works in a non-emulated env?

pliant barn Jan 5, 2021, 12:59 AM

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sure can try

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 12:59 AM

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vrcLike

pliant barn Jan 5, 2021, 1:10 AM

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ugh

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i don´t really know what happens, it starts VRC but i start at Def home world

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works just fine

void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 1:18 AM

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This is the script that grabs all connected players and sets their voice distance. What the heck is that Constructor and what is it doing, and why the number 8?

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floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 1:20 AM

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void ridge

it's creating an array of 8 players to pass into the VRCPlayerApi.GetPlayers function. You should use the max number of players allowed in your world.

void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 1:20 AM

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ohhhhhh

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So 8 is arbitrary

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 1:20 AM

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yep!

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but also no 😛

void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 1:21 AM

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Wait but, why not just plug that number into the end field of the For node?

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I would think that VRCPlayerApi.GetPlayers wouldn't even need an input

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 1:22 AM

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good question! The GetPlayers function expects you to pass an Array of players into it. It takes this array, fills it with as many players as it can find, and passes it back to you. This is done for performance reasons under the hood.

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if you're checking all players a bunch, you can make it into a variable, construct it at startup, and then just use your variable anywhere in your graph to get / set the value.

void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 1:23 AM

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Fair enough. That "filling it with as many players as it can find" step is pretty important, I guess, since I'm guessing that player ID integers start at 1 and keep climbing?

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 1:25 AM

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player IDs are not guaranteed to follow any sort of logic, which is why we have a way to retrieve them without knowing their ID. You do want to null-check every player in your array, though, to make sure you've got a real player out the other end.

void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 1:26 AM

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Yep. Getting a list of connected players is an challenge Rec Room has yet to solve 😅

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 1:26 AM

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Yes - when you first make the array, it's empty but ready to be filled. After you pass it into GetPlayers, it's filled with as many players as are in your world, up to the size of the array you created.

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I know it's a bit complicated, but it saves allocating the array each time which could eat up memory real fast

void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 1:27 AM

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Easy enough. A comment bubble in that example graph would have saved the confusion 🙂

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 1:27 AM

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void ridge Easy enough. A comment bubble in that example graph would have saved the confusi...

good idea! I'll add one in.

void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 1:28 AM

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Cool, thanks for the help Momo 👍

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 1:29 AM

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Sure thing! And welcome - I think you started posting things while I was on break, but I've seen your name pop up in the Canny a few times already, appreciate that.

void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 1:29 AM

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canny.io is bae

pliant barn Jan 5, 2021, 1:43 AM

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@unborn hornet worked fine in Build&Test but in VRC it does not

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 1:54 AM

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Right, so Build & Test is a special mode that is used by the SDK for building your world for local testing (ergo the name). If you try to access it through normal VRC startup, it's not going to work as expected.

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If you want to access the world through normal VRC, you have to Build & Publish first.

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That puts your world on the VRC servers to be accessed normally (and you can then invite friends as well at that point).

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I'm not sure of your rank, but you do need to be a "New User" (blue color) to be able to upload worlds privately. For Community Labs/public release, it requires the "User" (green color) rank. In case you didn't know yet.

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CC @pliant barn

pliant barn Jan 5, 2021, 1:57 AM

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Trusted user here

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in build & test everything works, after the upload to VRC the aniamtions are gone again, so i need build&test and then Build&Publish is that correct?

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Cause the Publish version does not work at all

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 2:02 AM

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The Build part of the two actions should be the same. So doing either test or publish should result in equivalent builds. It is recommended to run Build & Test prior to publishing for quality assurance reasons.

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After you Build&Test and check everything is good, then do Build&Publish and try and access it through normal VRC. If something is broken at that point, I would seek additional help, cause that might be a discrepancy in the environments which can happen, but shouldn't and should be reported as a bug/issue.

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 2:05 AM

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I'd recommend they test that the UdonExampleScene doesn't work with Build & Publish before filing a bug. That's a known good world.

pliant barn Jan 5, 2021, 2:05 AM

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well i tried Build and Test worked fine everything, now i did Publish and The character animations are not working at all again. They do in Build&Test though

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 2:07 AM

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which character is not animating? The players in the scene, or an imported animated character?

pliant barn Jan 5, 2021, 2:07 AM

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the avtar it self

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no hand gestures, no walking animation, everything from players

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 2:08 AM

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Hm - highly unusual. Gestures, crouching, etc from Avatars are protected from world changes. Can you share the link to the published world?

pliant barn Jan 5, 2021, 2:09 AM

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yesh but only in DM don´t want it public

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 2:09 AM

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pliant barn yesh but only in DM don´t want it public

ok, I unblocked my DMs

pliant barn Jan 5, 2021, 2:14 AM

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so?

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 2:17 AM

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it took a long time to load in, and gave me a few errors about custom scripts and broken behaviours, but my animations are running fine

pliant barn Jan 5, 2021, 2:17 AM

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👀

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walking etc.?

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need try myself now

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 2:18 AM

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pliant barn walking etc.?

https://gyazo.com/241c20ec5db9ea6ad0e113f6b35b5151

pliant barn Jan 5, 2021, 2:18 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

Tenor

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 2:21 AM

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got warning: The referenced script on this Behaviour (Game Object 'Head') is missing!
and: [UdonBehaviour] Could not load the program; the UdonBehaviour on 'usagurumi_HWA' will not run.

pliant barn Jan 5, 2021, 2:22 AM

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usa is the bunny thats fine

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https://gyazo.com/c90f76d4493ddd49376478f3b8dbed7f

Gyazo

▶ Play video

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 2:22 AM

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also: [VRCFlowManagerVRC] Room instantiate took 74.17294s
Yeah, took me over a minute to load up all the assets in your 300MB+ world on an i7. Pretty rough.

pliant barn Jan 5, 2021, 2:22 AM

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i know

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other worlds are fine

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also The Standart avatars work with walking.....interesting

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okay, interesting @floral dove it seems that SDK2.0 avatars are doing fine in the world but not 3.0 ones

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any ideas?

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https://gyazo.com/3591626d43d13a095f5ff01b5a46755f

Gyazo

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OKAY, i changed some avatars and it works......

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 2:36 AM

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ayyy progress!

pliant barn Jan 5, 2021, 2:37 AM

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ayeee it work rng somehow

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another thing after 3~4 min the animations slowly starts and then they work

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any ideas how or why that happens?

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 2:41 AM

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Hm - it could have something to do with bandwidth - if your world is using up too much bandwidth it could fight with IK network data for what gets through. I had a MASSIVE freeze for over a minute when I loaded into your world, if you're doing something super resource-intensive on either the CPU or with network data, it could affect IK.

pliant barn Jan 5, 2021, 2:47 AM

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👍

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will smaller the world defenetly

twin drift Jan 5, 2021, 4:08 AM

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Does AudioSource.GetSpectrumData not work in VRC?

grand temple Jan 5, 2021, 4:11 AM

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It works just fine

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Are you sure your script isn't crashing?

twin drift Jan 5, 2021, 4:12 AM

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Pretty sure, I'm able to log the spectrum data in my editor but not in VRC

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Neeevermind, got it working

strange charm Jan 5, 2021, 5:02 AM

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how do I do lists in udon?

cunning mist Jan 5, 2021, 5:25 AM

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You don't, unfortunately.

void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 5:38 AM

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I can't find the node to cast a rounded float to an integer 😩

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aaaaand it's Convert.ToInt32

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but if I hadn't asked, I wouldn't have found it

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 5:40 AM

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I'm a firm believer in rubber-ducking

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 5:54 AM

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void ridge I can't find the node to cast a rounded float to an integer 😩

Mathf -> RoundToInt ?

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lol

void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 5:55 AM

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I swear that's the first place I looked. Also, bot has no chill.

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Thank you

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I was doing a float round and then casting it, so that saves a node 🤷‍♀️

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 5:56 AM

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one less extern is always a nice thing.

void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 5:56 AM

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fewer

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I'm getting an exception from this guy

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unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 5:56 AM

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You need to pass the instance in.

void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 5:57 AM

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OK, makes me sad that it doesn't default itself in. But where do I get that instance?

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 5:58 AM

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the only implicit instance types are Transform, GameObject and UdonBehavior. Everything else must be declared. Reason? Not every scene object has a rigidbody. It's bad to assume that, thus it doesn't auto-fill it.

void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 5:58 AM

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the only implicit instance types are Transform, GameObject and UdonBehavior. Everything else must be declared.
eyyyyy that one's going right in the "gotchas" pile, thanks

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 5:58 AM

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GameObject -> GetComponent, pass in output from Type -> RigidBody

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... I think

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Or, alternatively, you could make a public RigidBody variable and pass that in directly via inspector.

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I prefer the explicit GetComponent via udon when possible, but depends on the use-case.

void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 6:01 AM

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eh?

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unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 6:01 AM

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Da.

void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 6:02 AM

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спасибо

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 6:02 AM

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Though it would fair better performance wise to do that in the Start event, and then store the resulting instance in a private variable for internal referencing.

void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 6:03 AM

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Sure, sounds like a good thought

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Is that just because reading a GameObject is a bunch more in memory?

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Because that contains so much more information?

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 6:08 AM

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GetComponent is an extern (and a relatively expensive one at that) so doing that as few times as possible is ideal.

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So something like this

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void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 6:09 AM

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Hmm that's exactly what I have and I'm still getting the exception

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I'm dumb

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I'm not gonna explain why, let's just all accept it.

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(that was "I'm dumb" as in "I figured it out and it was a goofy mistake")

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 6:23 AM

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Happens. np

elder ledge Jan 5, 2021, 7:01 AM

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Quick question, maybe someone can explain to me what's happening. I have a platform that moves up in down with a simple trigger area which enables an animation of the platform. However, I noticed the platform is globally synced, however I don't have "Synchronize Position" enabled on the platform. So why does the platform move globally? Are animations synced?

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grizzled trout Jan 5, 2021, 7:03 AM

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not sure where in this server to ask but i am using sdk3 and trying to follow this guild but at this part https://youtu.be/TfyL99fA_vU?list=PL8KgUGVwBd_HjEGo6_5UriffNxLzyZeX-&t=503 for some reson my trigger says this and my scrip there as a error his dose not

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YouTube

Akira

VRCHAT Animation on Trigger Tutorial | Door Example | VRCSDK3 UDON

Part 2 of my video series for basic VRCHAT world building with the VRCSDK3 Udon kit. This series will be designed for beginners. I will try to cover every step from start to finish of each vrchat world creation tutorial. The goal of the videos is to allow users to follow and recreate the functions being demonstrated in a step by step manner when...

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elder ledge Jan 5, 2021, 7:04 AM

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grizzled trout

Can you fill in the name field of the component? or is it just greyed out

grizzled trout Jan 5, 2021, 7:05 AM

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it is grayed out, i cant do anything with it

elder ledge Jan 5, 2021, 7:05 AM

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Playmode is disabled? e.g.

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grizzled trout Jan 5, 2021, 7:05 AM

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yeah it is disabled

raven peak Jan 5, 2021, 7:05 AM

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elder ledge Quick question, maybe someone can explain to me what's happening. I have a platf...

other players have colliders so if you dont check if the player entering the trigger is local it will do it for any player.

elder ledge Jan 5, 2021, 7:07 AM

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raven peak other players have colliders so if you dont check if the player entering the tri...

Thanks, that makes sense. I'm not checking for a local player 🤦‍♂️

grizzled trout Jan 5, 2021, 7:07 AM

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elder ledge Can you fill in the name field of the component? or is it just greyed out

Wait the heck ?? it randomly just fixed itse self??

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hehe uinty be bizar

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elder ledge Jan 5, 2021, 7:08 AM

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Oh, you also need to drag the object with the animator on it to that curtainsleft box

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Has "None" set right now so maybe that's why it's having issues 🤔

grizzled trout Jan 5, 2021, 7:10 AM

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i know , i could not till now hehe i think i got it, befor it would not let me set anything

open ermine Jan 5, 2021, 9:31 AM

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anyone else's udon buttons randomly break overnight?

sharp shadow Jan 5, 2021, 9:58 AM

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despite me not changing anything specific, on one of my worlds, my ui shapes dont interact with vr users at all, was working fine a bit ago and theres no sdk update either

valid badger Jan 5, 2021, 10:24 AM

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Hi, i want to make soud door bell need to make a networking for all player ear ?

grizzled trout Jan 5, 2021, 10:58 AM

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valid badger Hi, i want to make soud door bell need to make a networking for all player ear ?

this is what i use to sync "on action" accessed an instance(aka make it so when you hit a button everyone in the instance/room gets the change , so if you have a doorbell already set you can just plug this in to it

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valid badger Jan 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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grizzled trout this is what i use to sync "on action" accessed an instance(aka make it so when ...

Okey thx you

grizzled trout Jan 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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valid badger Okey thx you

good luck

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 2:06 PM

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I'm new
so you're saying if a player activates an audio event it doesn't necessarily play the audio to everyone in range?

sly knoll Jan 5, 2021, 2:10 PM

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Hello, I'm having some trouble with an object respawn button that I'm doing. The button works, but it seems that only the last person who grabbed the object can respawn it. Maybe it's related to the object ownership?

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This is the graph

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paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 2:21 PM

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you could pass the respawn event to the object and let the object do it

sly knoll Jan 5, 2021, 2:26 PM

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I'll give it a try

dapper lion Jan 5, 2021, 2:52 PM

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is udon able to be set up in a way to change the fog amount/starting range? or am i thinking of something that has to be done using unity methods?

fiery yoke Jan 5, 2021, 2:53 PM

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@dapper lion Youre looking for RenderSettings.fogStartDistance fogDensity etc. Should be accessible.

dapper lion Jan 5, 2021, 2:53 PM

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oh, ig i missed that in the list, nothing stuck out so i think there was a workaround instead. much thanks

outer shoal Jan 5, 2021, 3:49 PM

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Hi. Is it possible to store persistent data related to a user in a world? For example, is it possible to make an specific achievement system for each user in my world, so that when they log out and log in again, they still have their personal achievements displayed on a wall?

fiery yoke Jan 5, 2021, 3:49 PM

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No.

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 3:50 PM

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Do you want to make a save system?

outer shoal Jan 5, 2021, 3:50 PM

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I want to know what I can do and cannot do with VRChat as a developer

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 3:50 PM

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In 8 bit games we had level codes, for example..

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In vrchat there's no way to store user information but if you didn't have a whole slew of parameters you could use something like a saved game code

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Any user with the code would be able to apply the set of parameters to their character though, it wouldn't be individual

outer shoal Jan 5, 2021, 3:52 PM

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ah ok I see what you mean! 😄

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That is a good idea

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 3:52 PM

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For example Prince of Persia

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Is an eight digit series

outer shoal Jan 5, 2021, 3:53 PM

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but the user has to enter his code each time he logs into the world right?

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 3:54 PM

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And it is something like this:

GarbageDigit
Level
GarbageDigit
Health
GarbageDigit
Boots
GarbageDigit
SwordPower

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And yeah

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So I was thinking you use a set of dice

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And let the user set the rotation of the dice to the right combination or something

outer shoal Jan 5, 2021, 3:55 PM

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I see

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 3:55 PM

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Or perhaps a series of words in a certain order where the letters translate to a value in your code?

outer shoal Jan 5, 2021, 3:55 PM

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Is it possible to call a backend service like Firebase for example?

fiery yoke Jan 5, 2021, 3:55 PM

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No.

outer shoal Jan 5, 2021, 3:55 PM

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Why?

fiery yoke Jan 5, 2021, 3:56 PM

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Security. And Independency. I guess.

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 3:56 PM

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Virtual markets open web pages

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You can pass information with the url

fiery yoke Jan 5, 2021, 3:56 PM

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They are special partners

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 3:56 PM

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Ooooo

fiery yoke Jan 5, 2021, 3:56 PM

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That have special privileges

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 3:56 PM

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I did not know this

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Gotcha

outer shoal Jan 5, 2021, 3:57 PM

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When you say no, you mean it is technically impossible or it is forbidden?

fiery yoke Jan 5, 2021, 3:57 PM

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Probably both

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 3:57 PM

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For various reasons they make it impossible for you to pass data in and out of the platform without going through the platform

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Everything with ucc does it, it's a limitation....

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vrcCrying

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Research shows that folks can remember a series of 7-9 numbers if you give them the right motivation, or you can write that down pretty easily. I think you'd have to limit yourself to that.

outer shoal Jan 5, 2021, 4:02 PM

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That is a big limitation but I understand. Thanks a lot for your idea.

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And thank you both for your help

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 4:02 PM

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If you implement it
Don't forget to dm the udon
To your buddy parachute

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Because I want it too

outer shoal Jan 5, 2021, 4:03 PM

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dm?

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Send lol

outer shoal Jan 5, 2021, 4:03 PM

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ok 🙂

vital rose Jan 5, 2021, 8:15 PM

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Hey there, I've just recently started playing with the SDK again and decided to give the udon video players a whirl from the example scene included with the SDK.

Video players work pretty well except when I use them to play a twitch livestream - they keep pausing (I assume buffering) and then restarting, this would be less annoying if it didn't show a 15s placeholder for an ad that never plays each time it did this.

Has anyone else run into this? Is this maybe something I may not get if I implement my own prefabs?

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 8:18 PM

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vital rose Hey there, I've just recently started playing with the SDK again and decided to ...

you can add the OnVideError event and hook it up to a Debug.Log to get a little more insight into what's going on. You might not want to run all the sync logic when viewing a livestream, not sure if that could be the cause. You could test that theory by pre-filling the Twitch Stream URL, turning on autoplay, and removing the UdonBehaviour with the Video Sync program.

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 8:25 PM

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The unity video player doesnt support livestreams. You need the AVPro player for that.

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 8:25 PM

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ah, perhaps I misunderstood, thought it was playing ok and then pausing

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 8:26 PM

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vital rose Hey there, I've just recently started playing with the SDK again and decided to ...

as @unborn hornet said, you need to use the AVPro player if you want to play streams, are you doing that? You can read about the difference between the two here: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/video-players

cunning mist Jan 5, 2021, 8:27 PM

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On a related note, I noticed that you're unable to check against what error you receive in the graph since the nodes for those error types don't exist, but the values are exposed so U# can access them. Are those nodes planned?

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 8:28 PM

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I think I saw a canny for that at some point...

dapper lion Jan 5, 2021, 8:31 PM

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anyone know the process or the layering for an audio source to have effects but not player effects?

cunning mist Jan 5, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Unfortunately you can't avoid modifying the player's voice with audio effects, so you must apply them to the files themselves.

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 8:34 PM

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unborn hornet I think I saw a canny for that at some point...

https://feedback.vrchat.com/vrchat-udon-closed-alpha-bugs/p/graph994-no-inputs-for-videoerror

dapper lion Jan 5, 2021, 8:34 PM

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i was able to do it once tho, i just cant remember how

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i was wondering if anyone here messed with that and knows

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the world that i was able to do so in is still public and works as intended for the audio matrics. but i sadly lost the files and i cant remember how its done in 3.0

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 8:36 PM

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cunning mist On a related note, I noticed that you're unable to check against what error you ...

hm - I'm not seeing the Video Error Equals node in the latest SDK though - wonder if it got accidentally pulled vrpill

cunning mist Jan 5, 2021, 8:39 PM

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vrcThinking

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 8:40 PM

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Good ol' regression bugs.

karmic pike Jan 5, 2021, 8:50 PM

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Is udon stable for gun pvp?

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via world pvp not avatar pvp

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 8:54 PM

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Real time competitive games are not advisable at this time.

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Turn based or (very well done) cooperative games are fine generally.

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 8:55 PM

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people have a lot of fun in Laserdome fwiw: https://www.vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_1c2bed4c-168c-4f2c-a359-428987f55b19

Laserdome by xCirrex

Lasertag made in Udon․

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 8:56 PM

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Well I suppose. It's hard to do it well and I've had my own share of sync issues trying to play that (even though it is fun).

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 8:59 PM

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Is this a good way to apply basic rotation to an object and set the speed?

📎 unknown.png

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here I took out the part that wasn't rotating the cube

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unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 9:01 PM

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Generally for per frame speed, you'll want to use Time GetDeltaTime

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 9:01 PM

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ok

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 9:03 PM

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The other thing is that you are using lerp without any values (all of it is zero)

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 9:04 PM

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there's a 1 on y

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 9:04 PM

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Oh missed that. K

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 9:04 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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how's that?

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also thanks, now anyone who searches for basic rotation has this

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 9:05 PM

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why are you lerping at all? Rotate is a relative method so it applies the input value on top of the current value

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 9:06 PM

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does it do nothing?

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 9:06 PM

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Essentially Rotate adds the input to the existing rotation the object is already at.

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 9:06 PM

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oh right

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it's not like...setting the transform

fiery yoke Jan 5, 2021, 9:07 PM

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You can set the rotation of a transform tho

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 9:07 PM

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Well if you set LocalRotation then it would be

fiery yoke Jan 5, 2021, 9:07 PM

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ohh yeah localRotation in that case

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 9:08 PM

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ok we're doing that then

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 9:08 PM

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The rotate methid is just a simpler convenient way of doing relative rot adjustments using degrees.

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 9:08 PM

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you probably want something like this:

📎 unknown.png

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this will rotate a cube on its y axis at speed

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 9:08 PM

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well it definitely rotates the cube

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thanks for that

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 9:09 PM

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here's a string you can copy+paste if you want to try it out:

application/vnd.unity.graphview.elements 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

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 9:09 PM

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Text lol

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 9:09 PM

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you'll want speed to be pretty high for this graph since it's multiplied by deltaTime which is a very small number

fiery yoke Jan 5, 2021, 9:10 PM

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Yeah thats a nice feature of the graph. You can take an entire graph and serialize it into a string.

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But it only works well for small graphs as you can see

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 9:10 PM

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Quite

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 9:11 PM

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to make this reuseable, @paper plinth, you'd probably want to make that Vector3 into a public variable as well, so you can set the rotation amounts in the inspector.

indigo wolf Jan 5, 2021, 9:11 PM

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#vrchat-general-2

paper plinth Jan 5, 2021, 9:11 PM

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and yeah ultimately I guess from other objects

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 9:12 PM

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Is there an existing enum in unity that has x, y, z as values?

fiery yoke Jan 5, 2021, 9:13 PM

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Ahh yeah I had the same question a while ago

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There is "Axes"

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but its not a general enum, but a rather specific one

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 9:14 PM

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Does it translate well to the inspector?

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Was hoping to have it as a public variable.

fiery yoke Jan 5, 2021, 9:15 PM

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https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/IMGUI.Controls.PrimitiveBoundsHandle.Axes.html
Its part of the IMGUI stuff. So probably not even accessible

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 9:16 PM

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Blah. Lame. Fine I'll just use an int range vrcAngry

fiery yoke Jan 5, 2021, 9:17 PM

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You can also use C-Style enums

const int enum_Axes_X = 0;
const int enum_Axex_Y = 1;
const int enum_Axes_Z = 2;

but that just helps with not having to remember which is which, which in this case isnt too complex :P
It also doesnt enforce anything so yeah /shrug

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 9:19 PM

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Well I need it so that a world creator can pick only one axis via inspector. The consts as internal references is fine though.

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Probably would combine the two cases.

exotic shale Jan 5, 2021, 9:39 PM

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How would you go about making a physical button you can press?

void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 9:55 PM

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exotic shale How would you go about making a physical button you can press?

There's something like that listed here, "VRC Physical Interaction"
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTP-eIkYLZh7pDhpO-untxy1zbuoiqdzVP2z5-vg_9ijBW7k8ZC9VP6cVL-ct5yKrySPBPJ6V2ymlWS/pubhtml#

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You have to click the Udon Prefabs tab up top

exotic shale Jan 5, 2021, 9:56 PM

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Thank you!

vital rose Jan 5, 2021, 10:12 PM

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floral dove you can add the OnVideError event and hook it up to a Debug.Log to get a little ...

Thanks @floral dove I'll give it a go this week

vital rose Jan 5, 2021, 10:13 PM

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unborn hornet The unity video player doesnt support livestreams. You need the AVPro player for...

Yep, I'm using the avpro version

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 10:15 PM

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void ridge There's something like that listed here, "VRC Physical Interaction" <https://doc...

How does one add their asset to that list?

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CC @floral dove @cunning mist

cunning mist Jan 5, 2021, 10:19 PM

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This is the VRCPrefabs document, which they manage and maintain.

grizzled trout Jan 5, 2021, 10:20 PM

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is there away to have a working mic? or like make it so when someone is on a stage it projects their voice? i am still rather new so i dont relly know , if somone chan just show me a scren shot or link vid i would be gretfull

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 10:20 PM

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So is it just added on a whim by them? Is there a submission process? This sheet gets around a lot and it'd be nice to be featured on there, especially for the buttons I'm working on.

floral dove Jan 5, 2021, 10:21 PM

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grizzled trout is there away to have a working mic? or like make it so when someone is on a sta...

The UdonExampleScene shows how to adjust the volume for everyone in the world. You can simplify that one to modify volume just for the player that enters a trigger zone.

grizzled trout Jan 5, 2021, 10:21 PM

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Ooh i will look in to it, thanks

cunning mist Jan 5, 2021, 10:22 PM

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They're assets developed by people in that group.

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I'm not an admin for Prefabs, but I'd recommend bothering CyanLaser or the likes during the Sunday Community Meetups.

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 10:24 PM

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Oh? And where does that occur?

void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 10:25 PM

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Yeah, and didn't there used to be an #events channel or something where those were announced?

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Digression from topic, but I tired to join one once and found it impossible to find 🙃

cunning mist Jan 5, 2021, 10:26 PM

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VRChat Events is community run and has it's own discord now, you can find more information on it there.
https://vrchatevents.com/

VRChat Events

VRChat Events website is dedicated to community run events in VR.

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 10:26 PM

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Sweet. Thanks!

cunning mist Jan 5, 2021, 10:27 PM

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It's also hard to get in a lot of times because we'll commonly max out at 80 players in every world haha, make sure to show up early

noble hatch Jan 5, 2021, 10:31 PM

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what is udon

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 10:32 PM

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https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/what-is-udon

VRChat

What is Udon?

What’s this Udon thing anyways? VRChat Udon is a programming language built completely in-house by the VRChat Development Team. It is designed to be secure, performant, and easy to use via the VRChat Udon Node Graph, a built-in visual programming interface that uses nodes and wires (we call them “no...

void ridge Jan 5, 2021, 10:35 PM

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I'm really beginning to suspect that folks are showing up in this channel because it's the first channel in the list with the word "question" in the name. #vrchat-support and #user-support-old are not nearly as clearly a place to go to ask questions when you need help vrcThinking

unborn hornet Jan 5, 2021, 10:44 PM

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Vertically, it's also listed above the general dev channel group, so it's seen first.

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Maybe if just the user support channel was moved to the general group it'd help, but ironically that is a discussion for another channel.

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:P

scarlet lake Jan 5, 2021, 10:59 PM

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Why would I be getting compiler errors when I try to test my world in Unity?

native estuary Jan 5, 2021, 11:00 PM

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Most likely because you have compile errors

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As to why it's hard to say without seeing your console

scarlet lake Jan 5, 2021, 11:00 PM

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It might be the skybox I have then

native estuary Jan 5, 2021, 11:01 PM

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If you have the free skybox pack that comes up in unity asset store it has a script that has a compile error in newer unitys including 2018

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Just remove the script the skyboxes are fine

dapper lion Jan 5, 2021, 11:12 PM

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@cunning mist i was able to seperate the player audio layer and the world and ui audio. it is possible

twin drift Jan 5, 2021, 11:48 PM

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Is it possible to change the post processing profile with udon?

chilly crater Jan 6, 2021, 12:52 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/znEU5al.png

Imgur

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I'm trying to set an object's X rotation to a set amount.

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but in game it automatically goes to 90

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is this something with the default values?

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Or am I applying a quat when a vector is more appropriate?

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Or, I just messed up the variable inputs...

floral dove Jan 6, 2021, 1:13 AM

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it's not usually wise to use Quaternions directly - the x,y,z,w elements don't line up to the xyz Euler angles if that's what you're trying to do. It might be better to have a public Vector3 variable that you turn into a Quaternion in your graph

chilly crater Jan 6, 2021, 1:14 AM

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I just want to set an object's rotation to a set angle when I push a button.

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I'm making an over-engineered beachchair

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so i want to recline and raise the back/footrest

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Testing with vector atm

floral dove Jan 6, 2021, 1:15 AM

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yeah - I think a public variable Vector3 will serve you well.

chilly crater Jan 6, 2021, 1:15 AM

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Does that apply X degrees of rotation, or does it set the object's rotation at X degrees?

floral dove Jan 6, 2021, 1:16 AM

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since you're using 'Set rotation', it will set the transform's rotation to the Quaternion you pass in

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if you used Transform.Rotate, it would apply it on top of the current rotation

chilly crater Jan 6, 2021, 1:16 AM

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So I need to figure out how to translate vector to quat

floral dove Jan 6, 2021, 1:17 AM

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https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Quaternion.Euler.html

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you can always search the Unity docs and then look for the matching node. In this case, it helps to know that they're called "Euler angles" which is not obvious if you're not a math nerd

chilly crater Jan 6, 2021, 1:22 AM

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Thanks.

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Now off to trying to figure out chair placement...

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Does the seat transform signify where your feet end up?

floral dove Jan 6, 2021, 1:25 AM

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chilly crater Does the seat transform signify where your feet end up?

I believe it's where your hips go but haven't done much with stations tbh

chilly crater Jan 6, 2021, 1:26 AM

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I'm starting to believe it is feet. I have the seat item below the item and I'm still hovering.

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Nevermind, there might be collider magic going on...

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Thanks for the rotation help

📎 unknown.png

floral dove Jan 6, 2021, 1:30 AM

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looks like the example station has the 'seat' at the floor, so that would be where the bottom of the chair is I guess

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chilly crater Jan 6, 2021, 1:30 AM

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That was so obvious I'm kinda mad I missed that...

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Sorry about that

floral dove Jan 6, 2021, 1:30 AM

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np

chilly crater Jan 6, 2021, 1:32 AM

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Is the box collider important?

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I can adjust the height of that to whatever, right?

floral dove Jan 6, 2021, 1:33 AM

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I'm not sure if it has an impact on how your avatar interacts with the station or not.

chilly crater Jan 6, 2021, 1:34 AM

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I'll figure it out somehow. Thanks again.

cunning mist Jan 6, 2021, 2:09 AM

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I feel like this would be better as an animation lol

chilly crater Jan 6, 2021, 2:10 AM

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Throwing it on my to-do list.

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I really need to get off my butt and throw cyanEmu into my project...

void ridge Jan 6, 2021, 2:13 AM

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chilly crater I really need to get off my butt and throw cyanEmu into my project...

Do it right now. It takes literally seconds, here's the link https://github.com/CyanLaser/CyanEmu/releases/download/v0.3.1/CyanEmu.v0.3.1.unitypackage

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Sincerely,
Someone who dragged their feet for like three days on that before just doing it

native estuary Jan 6, 2021, 2:15 AM

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Just do it

chilly crater Jan 6, 2021, 2:16 AM

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So what, do I just press Play?

native estuary Jan 6, 2021, 2:16 AM

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Yeah

chilly crater Jan 6, 2021, 2:22 AM

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Well that just saved me the five minutes to setup a testclient. Thanks

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What is the text for?

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Couldn't you just use the UI text?

void ridge Jan 6, 2021, 2:30 AM

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Sorry, I moved that question to #quest-optimization

chilly crater Jan 6, 2021, 2:30 AM

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oh

unborn hornet Jan 6, 2021, 2:30 AM

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📎 SeatsCrudelyExplained.jpg

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Enjoy my bad art explaining seats lmao

chilly crater Jan 6, 2021, 2:30 AM

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something something feet

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it's magic

unborn hornet Jan 6, 2021, 2:32 AM

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I had to deal with it when making my auto placement seats in order to make the knees always be on the edge of the seat no matter the avatar size.

hoary echo Jan 6, 2021, 2:42 AM

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Probably a stupid question, but to publish a world for both PC and quest, I just Build and publish for PC --> Upload, then do the same as an android build, yeah?

void ridge Jan 6, 2021, 2:49 AM

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hoary echo Probably a stupid question, but to publish a world for both PC and quest, I just...

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/cross-platform-setup

hoary echo Jan 6, 2021, 2:53 AM

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In my defense, it's been a long day. Thanks for the link!

unborn hornet Jan 6, 2021, 3:05 AM

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tfw open 21 clients instead of 2

void ridge Jan 6, 2021, 4:26 AM

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I just made a big box collider to use as a trigger volume. And now I've discovered that I can't interact with the button that's inside that volume, which is also a trigger collider.

native estuary Jan 6, 2021, 4:32 AM

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void ridge I just made a big box collider to use as a trigger volume. And now I've discover...

Change the encompassing trigger volume to be on mirror reflection layer

void ridge Jan 6, 2021, 4:32 AM

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.....whyyy?

native estuary Jan 6, 2021, 4:32 AM

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To be able to interact with the buttons

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Why else?

void ridge Jan 6, 2021, 4:33 AM

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Sure, I believe you, but, why would that ever work?

native estuary Jan 6, 2021, 4:34 AM

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Because mirroreflection has a special role as a layer it's a pretty usual trick in vrchat if you search back in the discord

void ridge Jan 6, 2021, 4:36 AM

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I'm glad that it works, but, that seems kinda senseless that it works that way

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Feels like a hacky workaround to a problem that has no other solution yet

native estuary Jan 6, 2021, 4:37 AM

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Welcome to vrchat 😄

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We've been doing this trick since sdk2

obtuse zinc Jan 6, 2021, 6:23 AM

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how can i set up buffered triggers? i cant seem to find anything on it

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i want to have a button that globally activates a song

inland gyro Jan 6, 2021, 7:31 AM

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Did the SDK just crap itself? How do I fix this? Clicking "Clear" does nothing.

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unborn hornet Jan 6, 2021, 9:03 AM

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Restart Unity, if that don't work, reimport the SDK.

scarlet lake Jan 6, 2021, 9:20 AM

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Haha i just did all that some time ago with some problems still appearing. but it has been such a long time i think i am better off getting the new sdk and start over again.

grizzled trout Jan 6, 2021, 9:32 AM

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so mostlikey a dumb 10 out of 10 question but how do i put infinity ?

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unborn hornet Jan 6, 2021, 9:50 AM

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Mathf.Infinity

grizzled trout Jan 6, 2021, 9:53 AM

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i am a dipshit, i somehow spelt it wrong, rip

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i mean when i put it in unity

unborn hornet Jan 6, 2021, 9:53 AM

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Happens. No worries.

grizzled trout Jan 6, 2021, 9:53 AM

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thanks

unborn hornet Jan 6, 2021, 9:54 AM

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For the inspector, it's literally the word 'Infinity'

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Prefix with hyphen for negative

grizzled trout Jan 6, 2021, 9:56 AM

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thanks heh

sudden saffron Jan 6, 2021, 11:25 AM

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i have a "summon" where someone should be able to push a button to reset the location of the summonable object to somewhere near the object that contains the summon script.. but if Player A touched the summonable object first and Player B tries to use summon, the summonable object appears in the right spot but zings back to its previous location

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is it likely to be something to do with the player that owns the object, and how do i tell any VRCPickup object that it now belongs to some other arbitrary player

scarlet lake Jan 6, 2021, 11:50 AM

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Idk but i think the easiest way is just to make it local so they all have their own object to use
Hope someone could help otherwise you could always take this road

sudden saffron Jan 6, 2021, 11:52 AM

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true true, it's easier but i would prefer people to be able to see roughly the same thing in this world

mighty fjord Jan 6, 2021, 12:15 PM

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Or you could set the owner of the summoned object as the person who presses the summon button

sudden saffron Jan 6, 2021, 12:16 PM

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yep that's what i would like to do

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if i've already got the player who interacted and the summoned object, what's the node/command/etc to tell the summoned object "you are this player's wife now"?

mighty fjord Jan 6, 2021, 12:21 PM

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There should be a node called something like setOwner, probably under networking

sudden saffron Jan 6, 2021, 12:23 PM

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Networking -> SetOwner - thank you!!

actually how do i get the player that did the interaction?

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Networking.GetLocalPlayer seems not right

mighty fjord Jan 6, 2021, 12:31 PM

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LocalPlayer would work as interact is a local event

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Actually though, you could also send a custom network event to the owner of the summoned object to make it be summonsed on their end which would sync for everyone else

sudden saffron Jan 6, 2021, 12:44 PM

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true true..

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i don't really understand owners of objects vs instance masters yet..

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for the purpose of syncing, it sounds like the object's owner "observes and reports" information about say the loc/rot/velocity of a Pickup (which the summonable object is)

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so that information gets synced to the other players.. but does that sync process happen directly from the object owner to other players or is it synced through the instance master?

mighty fjord Jan 6, 2021, 12:59 PM

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I believe it's handled directly from the owner of the object

sudden saffron Jan 6, 2021, 1:06 PM

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thanks for your help!

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what i'm doing now is setting the owner to the local player, then doing the change in position after that

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so we'll see how that goes i guess

mighty fjord Jan 6, 2021, 1:13 PM

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Yeah, I'm just wondering if the set owner function has got some form of delay to it, which would mess it up

sudden saffron Jan 6, 2021, 1:19 PM

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seems to run ok in Build & Test so i think that's licked it

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thank you so much for your help Nestor

sudden saffron Jan 6, 2021, 2:49 PM

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live tested it, it seems to work even with a short noticeable delay - i'm triggering SetOwner and the velocity/position reset as part of a Block so i guess they fire in sequence 🙂

unborn hornet Jan 6, 2021, 3:52 PM

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All objects in scene must have an owner. The instance master is the default owner of objects unless explicitly set to somone else via SetOwner.

fiery yoke Jan 6, 2021, 6:21 PM

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Not quite true. Pickups for example implicitly/automatically set you as the owner when you pick them up.

paper plinth Jan 6, 2021, 6:24 PM

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poggers

📎 Screen_Recording_1-6-2021_1-22-53_PM.mp4

unborn hornet Jan 6, 2021, 6:35 PM

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fiery yoke Not quite true. Pickups for example implicitly/automatically set you as the owne...

Pretty sure the pickup script just implicitly calls SetOwner, so we can both be right. :P

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Ayyyy a ban speedrunner. Lets see how long it takes

paper plinth Jan 6, 2021, 6:37 PM

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I'd like to tell you there was a time in history where folks would just take their ban

unborn hornet Jan 6, 2021, 6:37 PM

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Lol

paper plinth Jan 6, 2021, 6:37 PM

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but there never was

sharp shadow Jan 6, 2021, 6:55 PM

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Has anyone implemented a global world whitelist in udon where a udon behaviour can ask, "is this person on the list" and receive a true or false from this other udon behaviour?

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instead of maintaining lists for each interaction you have 1 list and many calls to the list

fiery yoke Jan 6, 2021, 6:56 PM

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That is simple enough to do, but why would you want that? Whitelists are not supported by VRChats design philosophy if you ask me.

sharp shadow Jan 6, 2021, 6:56 PM

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for example, a staff door, or series of staff doors

fiery yoke Jan 6, 2021, 6:56 PM

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Ahh now that makes more sense

sharp shadow Jan 6, 2021, 6:57 PM

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you only want a list of people to enter

fiery yoke Jan 6, 2021, 6:57 PM

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Special privileges based on the Username is relatively easy to do

sharp shadow Jan 6, 2021, 6:57 PM

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but if you add or remove staff you have to update like 5+ different arrays depending on how many doors

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instead of 1 string array per udon behaviour, you have all the behaviours call 1 list

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then you only maintain the list in 1 place

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i have a whitelist teleport but i dont want to have to enter 15 names in 3 -4 different places manually

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Like in programming you can call a function with a parameter and receive a return value, can you use udon to "reply" to whatever called it?

fiery yoke Jan 6, 2021, 7:09 PM

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What youre describing is solved by something called "Dependency Injection"

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Essentially you have a central object that holds a list of "Staff member names"
And then every object that depends on that list is dependent on that object.
So the easiest way to solve that is by simply manually giving every object a reference to that other object that holds the list.
That ofcourse is a lot of manual work. Since Udon does not have a concept of "static"-ness, the only work around I know of is to use GameObject.Find(string name)
which will look through the entire scene for a specific GameObject. However that can get slow, if done excessively.

sharp shadow Jan 6, 2021, 7:14 PM

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Yeah, udon needs a global parameter function as well as simply public

fiery yoke Jan 6, 2021, 7:15 PM

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Yeah some global space would definitely help

sharp shadow Jan 6, 2021, 7:15 PM

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That was we can assign a variable as global and call it wherever

fiery yoke Jan 6, 2021, 7:15 PM

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but Udon is not built with that in mind

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so I would say its unlikely

sharp shadow Jan 6, 2021, 7:15 PM

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Yeah, more of an advanced feature

quartz meadow Jan 6, 2021, 7:24 PM

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Just have an empty game object with a scrip just holding an array of player names

mighty fjord Jan 6, 2021, 7:24 PM

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Wouldn't it work if you just had one script to check it and then have it set up the doors if it detects that you are on the 'staff' list?

quartz meadow Jan 6, 2021, 7:25 PM

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And have any object that needs it call on it

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^

fiery yoke Jan 6, 2021, 7:25 PM

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The whole problem is getting a reference to that object :P

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Either you have to manually assign it

quartz meadow Jan 6, 2021, 7:25 PM

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That's easy

fiery yoke Jan 6, 2021, 7:25 PM

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And how?

quartz meadow Jan 6, 2021, 7:25 PM

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I mean what I do is I call said holder program "holder"

fiery yoke Jan 6, 2021, 7:26 PM

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And then GameObject.Find?

quartz meadow Jan 6, 2021, 7:26 PM

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Put it on game object x

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You can use that or define it directly in editor

fiery yoke Jan 6, 2021, 7:26 PM

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Yeah

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manually

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Imagine having 20 Doors in your map

quartz meadow Jan 6, 2021, 7:27 PM

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Tbf I do my work in udobsharp where this is easier, idk about graph

fiery yoke Jan 6, 2021, 7:27 PM

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Its still the same

quartz meadow Jan 6, 2021, 7:27 PM

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I just call the variable directly

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Its one line

fiery yoke Jan 6, 2021, 7:28 PM

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I dont think you understand my point

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To get a variable from an object, you need a reference to the object. When you Drag'n'Drop an object into an Inspector Field youre MANUALLY referencing the object.
If you have multiple objects, then you need to do it for all of them MANUALLY. The only work arounds are GameObject.Find and Editor Scripts which can automate the manual-ness.

mighty fjord Jan 6, 2021, 7:29 PM

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So one part of the solution to Wise's issue would be to not store users in an array, but in something like a .bytes file, easily edited using any text editor

fiery yoke Jan 6, 2021, 7:29 PM

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Then you still need a reference to that text file :P

mighty fjord Jan 6, 2021, 7:30 PM

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Yeah, but they were mentioning that they were using entire arrays for it currently, instead of just referencing a single list

quartz meadow Jan 6, 2021, 7:30 PM

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Personally I would use prefabs to avoid redoing it that many tines

fiery yoke Jan 6, 2021, 7:30 PM

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Well yeah but it doesnt get around their actual problem

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Prefabs and UdonBehaviours are very tricky

mighty fjord Jan 6, 2021, 7:30 PM

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No, but it does make it alot easier having just one list that you can edit end then have all the doors reference that one

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But I guess if you're referencing something you might aswell reference some for of handler that does the check independently

fiery yoke Jan 6, 2021, 7:32 PM

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The underlying issue is getting a reference to a central location. How you store the list of names is up to you.

mighty fjord Jan 6, 2021, 7:32 PM

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Yeah

fiery yoke Jan 6, 2021, 7:34 PM

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And ofcourse copying the object, or using prefabs (which I dont recommend) will hide the manual assignments.
But it creates a "loose-couple" which I prefer to avoid. But since there is no real solution in Udon its fine I guess.

unborn hornet Jan 6, 2021, 7:38 PM

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Using an editor script to compile the list ahead of time based on conditions seems like it'd be the most effective way.

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Maybe not the easiest or most immediate to make...

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But probably the easiest to maintain/update in the long run.

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It requires working with U# though.

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So ya know... Pros & cons...

fiery yoke Jan 6, 2021, 8:14 PM

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It doesnt

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you can make Editor Scripts for UdonBehaviours no matter if they run a Graph Compiled Assembly or UdonSharp compiled Assembly

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UdonSharp just offers a lot of neat utility things I think

sharp shadow Jan 6, 2021, 8:15 PM

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i ended up doing it by having each door GetProgramVariable from the referenced StaffList and setting it to a local variable on interact, this way i just have to maintain 1 array and just reference the staff list in each door, not completely efficient but it will do

paper plinth Jan 6, 2021, 8:16 PM

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massive pog

📎 Screen_Recording_1-6-2021_3-14-44_PM.mp4

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rotates 90 degrees smoothly when you click

floral dove Jan 6, 2021, 8:17 PM

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paper plinth massive pog

FYI this is what the #udon-showoff channel is for

paper plinth Jan 6, 2021, 8:17 PM

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oh lol

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didnt' think anyone would care about the cube

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was just showing the folks who helped me the results of their effort

unborn hornet Jan 6, 2021, 8:18 PM

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showing
Well it is in the name after all #udon-showoff

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Makes sense lol

paper plinth Jan 6, 2021, 8:18 PM

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nice

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I was reading that

unborn hornet Jan 6, 2021, 8:19 PM

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Too much text

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Put it in a paste online. Thatll work.

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Yea

unborn hornet Jan 6, 2021, 8:41 PM

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Oop. F i guess.

fair leaf Jan 6, 2021, 8:46 PM

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How do I go about adding music in udon? I just want some peaceful bgm but nobody I have seen online has a guide that works

paper plinth Jan 6, 2021, 8:53 PM

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add the audio source, add the vrc audio source, and then uncheck enable spacialization I think.

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the component that VRC needs
forget what that is

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yup that's right, add the audio source, put in your mp3, add the vrc spatial audio source and uncheck enable spatialization
oops probably you need to click loop since it's bgm

fair leaf Jan 6, 2021, 9:13 PM

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Whats the structure look like got an example by chance? its my first day with udon scripts

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thx for answering btw @paper plinth

paper plinth Jan 6, 2021, 9:24 PM

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np

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You can add that stuff in inspector

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Sorry I'm watching the yule log

fair leaf Jan 6, 2021, 9:25 PM

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your good

paper plinth Jan 6, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Create an audio source (optional: move it to 0,0,0) and in the inspector click add component and then select the vrc spatial audio

fair leaf Jan 6, 2021, 9:26 PM

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I think I figured it out not sure tho lol

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this is what I am trying would you say this is accurate? https://ask.vrchat.com/t/how-to-play-music-in-udon-music-sync-time-playlist/998/1

VRChat Ask Forum

How to play music in udon (music sync time, playlist)

(upgrade : music sync time) I’m going to explain here a simple way to play music, play music sequentially, and share your thoughts on how to sync music. " Hi, nice to meet you 🙂 I don’t speak English very well, I’m sorry if you don’t understand I’m not an expert, I just wrote this because I want to share my thoughts and help Please tell me ...

paper plinth Jan 6, 2021, 9:27 PM

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The enable spatialization option is under advanced in the vrc spatial audio component

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Oshi
You want a Playlist
I don't know that in unity yet soz

fair leaf Jan 6, 2021, 9:28 PM

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this one is one song only my next proj is playlist

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I am a visual learner most the time so what your saying I dont get 😦

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@paper plinth this is what I got

📎 thisiswhatigot.PNG

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idk what I am doing

paper plinth Jan 6, 2021, 9:38 PM

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Well I can tell you now

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That when you see the word instance like that

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It's looking for and inpit

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Input

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In this case I would suggest that you look at the gameobject in question that you are suggesting should play your clip

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However, there are things you need to do to make audio in vrchat

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I suggest the use of plugins

fair leaf Jan 6, 2021, 9:56 PM

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examples?

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I noob

warm goblet Jan 6, 2021, 9:59 PM

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is this the right place to ask SDK3 world questions? I'm not actually using Udon but there's no #worlds-sdk3 channel

fair leaf Jan 6, 2021, 10:00 PM

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I guess @warm goblet

dapper lion Jan 6, 2021, 10:05 PM

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udon and sdk3 is basically the same thing

fair leaf Jan 6, 2021, 10:05 PM

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@dapper lion any chance you know of a guide I can use for bgm

dapper lion Jan 6, 2021, 10:07 PM

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hmm, i mean you could look up vowgan, not 100% sure if hes made any

fair leaf Jan 6, 2021, 10:07 PM

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I have an audio source but I need a screenshot or something of the udon map for it and thx

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@dapper lion he has done video player but not audio

dapper lion Jan 6, 2021, 10:09 PM

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hmm, idk of any udon graph, but i have seen an asset passed around labeled "BGM_control"

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wait, are you looking for a video player?

fair leaf Jan 6, 2021, 10:09 PM

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nah

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im tryna just play some creek sounds in my creek themed vrchat world

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but I wanna be able to disable it via button

dapper lion Jan 6, 2021, 10:11 PM

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oh, i belive if you put an adio source down, make it 2d audio and make its audio bubble about 3 times the map. set it to loop, and add the audio clip you want

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oh

fair leaf Jan 6, 2021, 10:11 PM

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im considering saying screw this to the audio though

paper plinth Jan 6, 2021, 11:10 PM

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Audio doesn't necessarily need to be scripted does it? To turn on and off with a button?

unborn hornet Jan 6, 2021, 11:30 PM

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@fair leaf An udon script with a public variable of AudioClips, then have some logic present to swap between the clips on an AudioSource via AudioSource -> set clip and then AudioSource -> Play

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Then in the inspector, set the number of clips (read: songs/tracks) you want and drab those files from your assets folder onto the slots for the audio clips.

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The logic that drives the track selection is up to you as the creator depending on your needs, but the above is the boilerplate you'll need for it.

fair leaf Jan 7, 2021, 12:02 AM

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@unborn hornet thank you, but @dapper lion covered it sorry :/

unborn hornet Jan 7, 2021, 12:02 AM

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Ah. Np

dapper lion Jan 7, 2021, 1:51 AM

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sorry lad

supple spoke Jan 7, 2021, 2:47 AM

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is there a way to collaborate with multiple person on a unity project for a vrchat world
like editing the same project in real time

fair leaf Jan 7, 2021, 3:03 AM

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it should work the same way it does it regular unity

hoary echo Jan 7, 2021, 3:08 AM

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Media players, any way to get a video file from google drive or one drive to play on them? I can only assume an open share link is what's needed, but it doesn't seem to want to play.

native estuary Jan 7, 2021, 3:09 AM

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From drive it would need to be under 100 mb to be able to be played

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Otherwise there's the warning about it not being virus checked which stops the video from being played

hoary echo Jan 7, 2021, 3:10 AM

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Good to know, in this case it's relatively small (40mb)

native estuary Jan 7, 2021, 3:10 AM

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That's the main tip I can give you since I haven't really played videos from drive in game myself

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But I do know that others have

lilac hatch Jan 7, 2021, 3:11 AM

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h.264 .mp4 direct link

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?

hoary echo Jan 7, 2021, 3:12 AM

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It's h.264, but I'm not really sure how to link directly to it via google drive (literally ending the URL with .mp4), as far as I know you can only just get the share links which are their whatever hashes

viscid reef Jan 7, 2021, 3:12 AM

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it should be fine as long as it is a link that resolves into a supported video file

hoary echo Jan 7, 2021, 3:15 AM

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Hmm... it's all a no-go. I won't worry about it for now, I've got a 'good enough' alternative, I can fight with this another day

viscid reef Jan 7, 2021, 4:26 AM

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oh, make sure the video files do not have spaces, even url encoded spaces, not sure if it affects sdk3 players, but its a problem on sdk2

fiery tide Jan 7, 2021, 4:34 AM

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Does anyone have any idea how to do the following: spawn a local game object bound to the front of the player with 2 toggles. When 1 is toggled on disable the hitboxes of the triggers. Spawn 2 objects. 1 synced to all players and bound to the player (you should be able to choose what bone). And the other synced only to the local player.

gusty trout Jan 7, 2021, 7:30 AM

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Has anyone had an issue when updating from VRCSDK3 2020.8 to 2020.12, I have lost most options within the VRChat SDK dropdown on unity.

Tried all the usual stuff to get it back but nothing is working. When I tried downgrading to the working version, all the options are gone still.

Any ideas?

cursive stratus Jan 7, 2021, 10:56 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

lilac hatch Jan 7, 2021, 11:01 AM

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Are we limited concerning the number of things done each frames ?
I'm trying to have two different gameobject to UpdateGIMaterials and after a while, one of the two somehow break and don't update anymore

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(Or perhaps the lightprobes don't update anymore, i'm unsure)

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And it sometimes just fix itself out of nowhere

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custom_avatar

compact stirrup Jan 7, 2021, 11:36 AM

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Is anyone else having trouble with player trigger enters? I have a script that creates a platform under a player when they fall through a trigger, but it only happens the first time someone enters it. I'm instantiating from an object that exists in the world, but every time the second player falls through the collider they fall right through, and the script doesn't fire again until the world is reloaded

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anyone have any idea why that might be?

hallow sable Jan 7, 2021, 11:39 AM

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anyone here that uses cyanemu know why I would be getting vrc_playermods could not be found error

ocean sundial Jan 7, 2021, 2:54 PM

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udon network spawn prefab transform not sync please help

vital rose Jan 7, 2021, 4:18 PM

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floral dove you can add the OnVideError event and hook it up to a Debug.Log to get a little ...

Thank you for the suggestion earlier this week to remove the video sync program, that did the trick! all fixed

fiery tide Jan 7, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Has any1 made a player combat system yet? I would like to borrow it. You will be credited if it is used.

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Must be udon/U#

fiery yoke Jan 7, 2021, 6:31 PM

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Combat or generally PvP is impractical because of the typcially high latency in VRChat. You can make it work, but it wont be anywhere near what most people that play Multiplayer FPS are used to.

lilac hatch Jan 7, 2021, 6:51 PM

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Hm

grand temple Jan 7, 2021, 6:54 PM

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Basic favor the shooter isn't hard to implement if you have an object pool framework. And the style that they're going for (open air combat with very few walls) will allow you to get all the benefits of it while avoiding most of the downsides (getting shot after ducking behind cover). Don't expect anything plug and play though, you gotta make it yourself

vernal maple Jan 7, 2021, 6:59 PM

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Udon Sharp question. Trying to force a client to drop an object if it exists outside of a collider, but I'm a bit confused. I believe I'm supposed to call gameObject.GetComponent(VRC_Pickup().Drop(), but can't for the life of me make it work.

hallow sable Jan 7, 2021, 7:51 PM

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does anyone know why I get errors importing sdk3? :/

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lyric mason Jan 7, 2021, 8:00 PM

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Did you removed SDK2 before importing SDK3?

lyric mason Jan 7, 2021, 8:00 PM

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hallow sable

^

hallow sable Jan 7, 2021, 8:02 PM

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not sure if I missed something

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dleeted the vrcsdk folder, vrchatexamples

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@lyric mason

native estuary Jan 7, 2021, 8:03 PM

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You still need to remove the scripting define in the project settings

hallow sable Jan 7, 2021, 8:03 PM

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how do I do that?

native estuary Jan 7, 2021, 8:03 PM

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Project Settings > Player > Other Settings > Scripting Define Symbols

hallow sable Jan 7, 2021, 8:05 PM

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oh no way I have not seen that anywhere

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thank you

karmic wyvern Jan 7, 2021, 9:46 PM

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hey

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i have a problem

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plz help me

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im following this tutorial

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right

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and i dont have that button

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"build and publish"

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where do i find it

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also for me this tab is just "show control panel"

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rose arrow Jan 7, 2021, 11:10 PM

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@karmic wyvern Do you have any errors in the console?

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Usually that menu having missing entries means something didn't load properly.

karmic wyvern Jan 7, 2021, 11:35 PM

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Huh

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I dont think I saw any errors

lilac hatch Jan 7, 2021, 11:52 PM

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My stuff got burried so uh
Are we limited concerning the number of things done each frames (using Update() ) ?
I'm trying to have two different gameobject to UpdateGIMaterials and after a while, one of the two somehow break and don't update anymore
(Or perhaps the lightprobes don't update anymore, i'm unsure of which one is breaking)
And it sometimes just fix itself out of nowhere

I don't really understand wassup to be fair, make absolutely no sense to me but my unity understanding is very sm0ll

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 12:05 AM

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Argh I wish Discord had Threads like Slack 😖 I keep coming here with questions but I don't want to bury/derail

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Is there an event for when a player respawns? Event.OnSpawn seems only to happen once, on initial spawn

hoary echo Jan 8, 2021, 12:54 AM

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I'm not sure, but I can think of a few ghetto workarounds for it

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 12:55 AM

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The most common one we used for a while is having a collider at the spawn that detects the respawning and then teleports you somewhere else. But its jank.

hoary echo Jan 8, 2021, 12:55 AM

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That was the ghetto idea I had

cunning mist Jan 8, 2021, 1:22 AM

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@void ridge If you want to have your questions cataloged like a forum, VRChat actually has a forum for that! They're not great at advertising it and personally the website looks incredibly boring, but it does the job.
https://ask.vrchat.com/

VRChat Ask Forum

A place to discuss, share, and create with VRChat!

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 1:22 AM

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Thank you, I do use the forum. I always check there first 😛

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But then I come here, and if no one's around, I post there 😅

cunning mist Jan 8, 2021, 1:23 AM

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You can also secretly know when the player respawns by putting a VRC Station on the object you respawn to. VRChat reuses their code for putting someone into a chair to manage respawning, so putting a VRC Station on the respawn object actually puts you into that chair when you respawn. Then, just do an OnEnterStation or whatever the event is, do your events related to your respawning, and kick them out of the chair.

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 1:24 AM

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That is also incredibly jank lol

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 1:24 AM

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wat dis meen

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cunning mist Jan 8, 2021, 1:24 AM

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Make sure you have a disabled box collider on the object though, otherwise players will be able to click on it to sit.

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And yes, it's horrible and I love it.

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 1:25 AM

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Yeah, jank/10. Good to learn about how that stuff works, but def not gonna use that unless I'm desperate

hoary echo Jan 8, 2021, 1:25 AM

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I think to do anything in VRC, you must accept the jank. You must love the jank.

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 1:26 AM

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I had that attitude with Rec Room for a while. Then stuff started breaking, and the devs started talking about how they had to spend dev time supporting jank so that people's stuff wouldn't stop functioning

hallow sable Jan 8, 2021, 1:27 AM

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what would be the best replacement of objectsyncs respawn?

hoary echo Jan 8, 2021, 1:27 AM

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void ridge I had that attitude with Rec Room for a while. Then stuff started breaking, and ...

The problem here is, there isn't a 'proper' way to do it... yet

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 1:28 AM

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That is exactly, precisely, word-for-word, the excuse people use in that community too 😛 it's not the way

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 1:28 AM

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It would be so simple to add a respawn event

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at least in my eyes

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maybe its not

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But I doubt it isnt

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 1:29 AM

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"It would be so simple to add X" is also a sentence I hear in my nightmares 😂

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 1:29 AM

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Well what I mean is that the benefits is way higher than the cost :P

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 1:31 AM

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https://feedback.vrchat.com/vrchat-udon-closed-alpha-feedback/p/onplayerrespawn-node

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But also 🤔
https://feedback.vrchat.com/feature-requests/p/onplayerrespawn-trigger-event
https://feedback.vrchat.com/vrchat-udon-closed-alpha-feedback/p/request-playerapi-event-respawn

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 1:32 AM

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plees tel wat dis meen

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void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 1:32 AM

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Helper, the request you made seems out of date. You can just teleport a player to the respawn point now, right?

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 1:33 AM

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scarlet lake plees tel wat dis meen

Do you mean the VRC_PlayerVisualDamage thing, which you have highlighted, or the null ref exception?

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If it's the exception, click on it and you'll get some more info in the lower part of the pane

hoary echo Jan 8, 2021, 1:34 AM

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Joker, are a dev? The only people I know who shy away from jank are proper devs in their day jobs, haha

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 1:35 AM

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:|

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it tell me the same thing

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It's not like my players take damage or anything

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 1:36 AM

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void ridge Helper, the request you made seems out of date. You can just teleport a player t...

A Respawn() method would then cause an OnRespawn event if it existed. Just teleporting them wouldnt.

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 1:36 AM

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It's my first world and I just want to upload it so my friends can vibe on it

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 1:37 AM

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So I don't know what VRC_PlayerVisualDamage is, I just know I see that warning often and it seems inconsequential. If you're having an issue, it's probably that exception error.

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 1:38 AM

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Its for the outdated Combat system

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the red eyeball thing you see when youre damaged

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 1:42 AM

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I fixed it

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I had to remove and replace the spawn point :}

fiery glen Jan 8, 2021, 2:09 AM

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Does anyone know why my dropdownlist expands and then the mouse box appears and covers my content?

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hallow sable Jan 8, 2021, 2:29 AM

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did anyone know how I could setup collider toggles? I know how to do gameobject but can't find a component one

hushed gazelle Jan 8, 2021, 2:37 AM

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What do you mean? Turning them on/off?

hallow sable Jan 8, 2021, 2:41 AM

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yeah like for a couch collider

hushed gazelle Jan 8, 2021, 2:41 AM

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Just toggle enable on the collider.

hallow sable Jan 8, 2021, 2:42 AM

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wdym?

dawn oxide Jan 8, 2021, 2:43 AM

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I was wondering if there was a way to have a mini-map with udon? Like perhaps it could either be a ui connected to the player model when they spawn in to the world? If possible, how would it be done?

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 2:44 AM

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dawn oxide I was wondering if there was a way to have a mini-map with udon? Like perhaps it...

Yes thats totally possible. You do it by getting the position of every player and either have a pre-taken picture, or use a camera with a render texture.

hushed gazelle Jan 8, 2021, 2:44 AM

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@hallow sable go look up the collider component in Udon and you'll see Set Enabled.

dawn oxide Jan 8, 2021, 2:52 AM

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So it would be the same if you wanted a live mini-map where if a player went to a different location let's say a house, their location wouldn't show up until they leave that location or if you join them? Just making sure I'm asking everything in detail since I've never seen this in any world

hushed gazelle Jan 8, 2021, 3:05 AM

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Is there a prefab, or specific way to set up, two-handed held objects like the pool cues in harry's pool world or the laser tag guns in the laser tag world?

warm cave Jan 8, 2021, 3:45 AM

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I noticed that my int for the client is always like a step behind, my master can have a 1 and the other clients have 0. Any ideas to correct this with proper since instead of guessing or something?

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 5:03 AM

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Networking is hard

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I'm not finding any docs or easy guides for UdonBehaviour.SendCustomNetworkEvent, but I'm pretty sure I grasp enough to use it. But could someone get me started? I don't get what the instance and target inputs do

unborn hornet Jan 8, 2021, 5:15 AM

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instance refers to which udonbehavior to act upon. target determines who receives the event call (Owner of the object or All in the instance)

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 5:19 AM

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OK. Owner of the object of which the UdonBehaviour is a component

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A synced variable does a sync when... The owner of the object to which an UdonBehaviour is attached sets that variable?

cunning mist Jan 8, 2021, 5:31 AM

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That will be a feature eventually, however as of now Synced Variables are passed during an event called OnDeserialization, which happens about 4 times a second, so users are constantly being re-fed synced data whether it has changed or not. "Manual syncing" (what you've described) is what will be coming with Danly's networking patch in the future.

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 5:32 AM

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users are constantly being re-fed synced data whether it has changed or not
This is my takeaway from this. That correct?

cunning mist Jan 8, 2021, 5:33 AM

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Correct

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 5:35 AM

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So what I'm trying to do here is update a player who has joined a while into a session with rotation information about an object that... rotates a lot

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Do I even need a network event? Or can I just declare that object's Transform as synced variable, and then do a Transform.SetRotation on Start?

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Start, or whatever other time seems convenient

hallow sable Jan 8, 2021, 5:45 AM

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what do I do if ui works fine with cyanemu but in game none of it works?

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like ui buttons a

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 6:09 AM

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Oh man. I threw some spaghetti code at this problem and I think I made it work 😂

hushed gazelle Jan 8, 2021, 6:12 AM

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If your object is physically moving, slap a rigidbody on it and just enable sync on the udon script on the object itself.

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 6:12 AM

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I'm specifically avoiding that

hushed gazelle Jan 8, 2021, 6:12 AM

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Then you're just making it harder for yourself.

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 6:13 AM

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Well, it's a resource thing

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I have something like 25 of these objects, and I don't want them all to sync position continually

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Because that would be too much

hushed gazelle Jan 8, 2021, 6:14 AM

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What specifically are these "things"?

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 6:14 AM

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They're objects that rotate

hushed gazelle Jan 8, 2021, 6:14 AM

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That tells us precisely nothing.

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 6:15 AM

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Well, yeah, that's the point. They don't do anything beyond that. Nothing that's unpredictable.

hushed gazelle Jan 8, 2021, 6:15 AM

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Ferris Wheels? Revolver cylinders? Platforms? Give us something in the ballpark.

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 6:17 AM

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It really shouldn't matter

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It's an object, it's got a Quaternion, I want to make sure players who join get the right quat

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But without overloading network resources

hushed gazelle Jan 8, 2021, 6:19 AM

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WHY does it matter though? With optimization what works for one "thing that revolves" may not help another depending on what they're actually doing. Context is needed!

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 6:21 AM

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The context is that I don't need their rotation to be synced frequently. Probably not at all beyond when the new player joins.

hushed gazelle Jan 8, 2021, 6:21 AM

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Yeah, you're just being evasive and telling us nothing. What is it these "things that rotate" actually do/convey, and why does it matter to the player that they're synced?

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 6:29 AM

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I dunno man. There's a lot to be said for solving problems in the abstract 🤷‍♀️ anyway, here's what I slapped together, and I'm all but certain it could work better, but it works

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Appreciate any input, and thanks. And thanks Tech and Vowgan for the input earlier

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 6:40 AM

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hallow sable what do I do if ui works fine with cyanemu but in game none of it works?

Bumping Militia's problem from earlier

hushed gazelle Jan 8, 2021, 6:42 AM

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Solving problems in the abstract still requires knowing WHAT the problem actually is though, @void ridge. "25 revolving objects" gives nothing about the actual nature of the problem and why syncing them is required.

unborn hornet Jan 8, 2021, 6:57 AM

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Also some people might not want to divulge the exact purpose and nature of what they're trying to solve. If that's the case with them, then it should be respected. If a problem cannot be solved without divulging such purpose or nature, then that's on them. No need to get undies in a twist over it.

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But Joker seemed to have solved the problem, so all is well vrcLike

quartz meadow Jan 8, 2021, 7:13 AM

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tough question, but I am trying to get "GetFloatArray" to work, I can set float arrays just fine, but when I try to get them I get nothing out of them

ocean sundial Jan 8, 2021, 7:55 AM

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spawn and pickup not sync position

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how can I fix this?

hushed gazelle Jan 8, 2021, 9:02 AM

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@unborn hornet I recognize that, but for help to be useful something needs to be divulged to actually get to the core issue and fix it. "I'm trying to animate a spinning wheel in a game that needs to consistently land on the same result for all players" or "I need to sync rotating targets for a shooting game" is nice and vague while still explaining precisely what they're trying to achieve.

@minor steeple Instantiated spawns aren't synced at the moment, it's a known thing with the current Udon version. CustomNetworkEvent'ing them into existence is just telling everyone to spawn their OWN instance of it rather than a shared synced one.

ornate furnace Jan 8, 2021, 1:09 PM

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Hey, so players are asking for me to have a toggle button to enable/disable the colliders on my couches that I have in my scene. I have tried changing the object layer in an udon graph, but it just dissapears when I try that. Just disabling the mesh wouldn't help me because I have other objects like pillows and such that rest on the couches. Any suggestions?

dapper lion Jan 8, 2021, 1:11 PM

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@ocean sundial who died?

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@ornate furnace ive never made a collider toggle, but you could hav 2 meshes over lap. one eith collide and one without. and make the collide one toggle. but thatll technically not be “optimized” as youd have 2 seperate meshes present

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however i believe you can set up a compinent varible script thatll do colliders

mighty fjord Jan 8, 2021, 1:16 PM

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You can disable the collider component instead of the entire object or mesh

ornate furnace Jan 8, 2021, 1:17 PM

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mighty fjord You can disable the collider component instead of the entire object or mesh

If I disable the collider, wouldn't the other objects (pillows and stuff) fall through it?

mighty fjord Jan 8, 2021, 1:17 PM

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Oh, so that's the issue, yeah they would fall throigh than, mb :x

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Changing the layers is what I would've done for sure

ornate furnace Jan 8, 2021, 1:18 PM

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Yeah, I tried setting the couch to the same layer as the pickup objects, but it just completely dissapears

mighty fjord Jan 8, 2021, 1:20 PM

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It might be setting it to a weird layer instead of pickup, it shouldn't have any unexpected results like that

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 1:35 PM

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How do I check the tag of the collided other of an OnTriggerEnter event?

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I want to check if the other is tagged with AIWall

ornate furnace Jan 8, 2021, 1:43 PM

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mighty fjord It might be setting it to a weird layer instead of pickup, it shouldn't have any...

It was basically this, was setting the layer wrong. Thanks! Got it working now!

mighty fjord Jan 8, 2021, 1:48 PM

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Good job ^^

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 1:51 PM

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How do I sync animated objects in Udon? I noticed that adding a Udon Behaviour script with Synchronise Position enabled will disable the Animator animations

supple root Jan 8, 2021, 2:31 PM

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Is there a simple trigger to add damage, i have been looking in the graph for 15 minutes now i count find a thing, Just something as simple as OnTriggerEnter add15Damage or something like that.

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 2:32 PM

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Damage...to what?

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If you mean the player, then there is theoretically still the (outdated) CombatSystem. But I wouldnt recommend using it.
You would probably have to manage your own.

supple root Jan 8, 2021, 2:34 PM

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Im currently looking to add damage to a object

paper plinth Jan 8, 2021, 3:08 PM

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@void ridge if their rotations don't need to be individually synced, could you synchronize maybe four of them and have them produce their rotation via an udonprogram node and a public variable to the others that could rotate the same way?

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You have 25 rotating objects, I doubt you need them each to have their own individual rotation.

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If it's done for the purposes of randomizing the position of similar objects you can randomize the rotation on the first program scan and then synchronize it from there.

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 3:12 PM

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Oh, interesting, right, I could simplify the whole thing and then have less that I need to sync. But to be totally honest, I'm actually making this difficult on purpose, because this is all a learning exercise and I want to create problems that I need to figure out how to solve.

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So for my purpose, yes, each of the 25 objects have their own individual rotation. Matter of fact, they each rotate at a random angle, where those values are generated by the first person to join the instance 😛

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And now, I want to optimize how those are synced, maximizing shared player experience within the constraints of networking

paper plinth Jan 8, 2021, 3:18 PM

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I suppose lol

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 3:18 PM

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They're already simulated per-client in a way that should be faithful, so in theory I only need to update them once for each player that joins. But I think I'm gonna go the extra step and sync each one once every minute or so, just to make myself feel good.

paper plinth Jan 8, 2021, 3:19 PM

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People don't remember the 80s
They didn't learn: Reduce, Reuse, Recycle
Reduce is a very important vector when it comes to resource use optimization
Because you do not have to worry about optimizing resources you never use

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 3:42 PM

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Someone have a syncing issue?

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I'm your guy let's talk networking

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 3:43 PM

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I wouldn't call it an "issue," I'm just learning. I built this yesterday
#udon-general message

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 3:44 PM

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Okay lit

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I see a few problems there

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 3:45 PM

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Basic goal is to sync the rotation of an object with some event. Then I'm gonna generalize that to sync a bunch of objects

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 3:45 PM

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Wanna dm me? Might take a bit to explain

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 3:45 PM

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Sure

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 4:17 PM

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anyone know what the performance is like with deserialzation? like if i have it turn on a mirror based off a bool value, will it like try to set the mirror to active constantly and thus taking a performance hit?

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or does it not effect performance since the action was performed once thus not needing to update the game object again

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 4:36 PM

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cunning mist That will be a feature eventually, however as of now Synced Variables are passed...

After chatting with penguin, it sounds like my takeaways from this actually should have been:
Every variable you declare as synced across all your UdonBehaviours increases your network load, regardless of how or when that variable gets used by clients.

Is that more like it?

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Additionally, ticking the "synchronize position" box on an UdonBehaviour increases network load, because it's kind of equivalent to declaring that object's Transform as a synced variable?

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So in order to decrease my network load, I should

decrease the number of total synced variables, and/or
change the variable types to things that use less data

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Source for #2:
https://ask.vrchat.com/t/how-to-sync-with-udon/449/7

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 4:48 PM

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Honestly I cant imagine it being too much of a burden

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Vowgan is an actual god though so

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 4:50 PM

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What do you mean by "it" there?

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Oh all the variables ondeserialzation has to read and the actions it performs

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It cant be that much of a performance issue

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Although I have seen it lag

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 4:52 PM

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As a burden on the client's CPU? Yeah, I doubt that too

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I'm purely focused on network load, like this post
https://ask.vrchat.com/t/how-to-sync-with-udon/449/6

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 4:52 PM

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There's also some bugs with it I almost forgot about

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The first comment is from a vrchat dev on April 20th

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Probably just got a lil high and forgot

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😂

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 4:55 PM

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I'm sure this is out of date by now, but it's a ballpark of what I care about:

I tested how many distinct UdonBehaviors with synced variables you can have in the scene before VRChat’s network layer stops processing events . . . . The answer is somewhere between 8 and 16 behaviors (each with 2 synced strings). At 16, I wasn’t getting total loss of all events, but a fair number were dropped. 8 was perfectly stable however.

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 4:57 PM

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That is interesting

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So If you try to sync more than 16 integers It might cause an issue?

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 4:58 PM

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It looks like they were doing between 16 and 32 strings

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Its unfortunate but there are just some things that udon does, but poorly

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 5:00 PM

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So I think I can get away with ~50 integers. But I do already have 8 rigidbodies with "Synchronize Position" checked. I'm hoping that when those are sleeping they don't get synced or something.

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Or even not at all

cunning mist Jan 8, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Oh yeah syncing strings is the slowest thing you can do and practically breaks after like 60 characters or something

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Do we have any read on how many rigidbodies can have synced positions before stuff starts catching fire?

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 5:01 PM

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I don't think that has to do with the deserilization node so I'm pretty sure it wont have much effect

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 5:02 PM

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but it's still data that's getting sent over the network 🤔

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 5:02 PM

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True but I think it might be handled differently

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Yeah it seems like the doc you sent earlier about syncing is all the info we currently have on it

vernal maple Jan 8, 2021, 5:25 PM

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Need some advice on how VRC_Pickup.Drop() works. I'm having no luck, and my error says "The given key was not present in the dictionary."

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Using U#

unborn hornet Jan 8, 2021, 5:56 PM

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When you call that method on a pickup instance, it forces the object to be dropped.

vernal maple Jan 8, 2021, 5:57 PM

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I continue to get an error every time I do. Something about a key not in the dictionary.

dapper lion Jan 8, 2021, 5:58 PM

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mispelt?

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 5:59 PM

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Sounds to me like a graph bug

vernal maple Jan 8, 2021, 6:00 PM

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gameObject.GetComponent<VRC_Pickup>().Drop(gameObject.GetComponent<VRC_Pickup>().currentPlayer);

Nervously looks around in udon sharp

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 6:00 PM

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Ohh

vernal maple Jan 8, 2021, 6:00 PM

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I tried getting currentPlayer as well, but also errors out the same

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 6:01 PM

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well then

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Ohh

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yeah

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VRC Components cant use the Generic GetComponent

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Use (VRC_Pickuo)GetComponent(typeof(VRC_Pickup))

vernal maple Jan 8, 2021, 6:03 PM

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Lemme give that a shot. :D

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<3

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Works perfectly.

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((VRC_Pickup)gameObject.GetComponent(typeof(VRC_Pickup))).Drop();

Looks hideous, but it works XD

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 6:15 PM

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pft you udonsharp coding plebs

paper plinth Jan 8, 2021, 6:31 PM

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listen
I am being supportive
I complained for two years that the only reason I don't make anything in Unity is because there's no node graph and now there's a node graph
so I'm obligated to give it a run lmao

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 6:37 PM

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its a lot of fun i'd highly recommend it

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i also never learned to code in c#...

limber jackal Jan 8, 2021, 6:57 PM

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Is there a way to get the current contents of your clipboard with udon?

floral dove Jan 8, 2021, 6:59 PM

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limber jackal Is there a way to get the current contents of your clipboard with udon?

you can ask the user to paste into a text field. We do not allow world creators to arbitrarily read a user's clipboard.

vernal maple Jan 8, 2021, 7:00 PM

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I actually had a question about that as well. This will require a CTRL + V keyboard stroke or can it be done by pushing a button in world?

limber jackal Jan 8, 2021, 7:00 PM

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Yeah that makes sense. I was hoping to have something paste with a button press, but that makes sense as a security feature

vernal maple Jan 8, 2021, 7:01 PM

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Something something unlockable achievements in game world for custom skins. Copy pasta would make life simple because there is no save/load.

floral dove Jan 8, 2021, 7:01 PM

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ctrl+v only.

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otherwise a malicious author could make a 'mirror toggle' that reads your clipboard

native estuary Jan 8, 2021, 7:04 PM

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Once we get a proper per world permissions system going would be great so that the user can agree to this first

paper plinth Jan 8, 2021, 7:07 PM

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is float unaryminus the same as multiplying by -1?

raven peak Jan 8, 2021, 7:19 PM

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a proper save world system would be best but dont see that coming for a while.

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 7:21 PM

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floral dove otherwise a malicious author could make a 'mirror toggle' that reads your clipbo...

I mean you could just get the clipboard, check if its in the format of a url and if it is then let it trough and pass it on. And if it isnt then return an empty string or something.
(Im talking about the VRC Client doing that, then passing it on to Udon)

wispy depot Jan 8, 2021, 7:25 PM

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has anyone had issues with buttons in worlds not working in VR but working in desktop?

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 7:26 PM

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You probably have a collider blocking the button

hoary echo Jan 8, 2021, 7:26 PM

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Usually there's a trigger or something blocking the... ^^^

wispy depot Jan 8, 2021, 7:27 PM

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I've tested with the button floating in free space and it still wont show up

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I thought maybe it was occlusion culling but I cleared it and the issue persisted

cunning mist Jan 8, 2021, 7:28 PM

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There's likely some sort of box collider or the likes covering it like Helper mentioned

wispy depot Jan 8, 2021, 7:28 PM

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hmmmm

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if the user is inside a collider would this still be an issue?

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I'm going to do a test

cunning mist Jan 8, 2021, 7:29 PM

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If the user is inside of a collider for detection, you need to have that layer on MirrorReflection, otherwise it blocks hand-based raycasting.

wispy depot Jan 8, 2021, 7:29 PM

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ahhh

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well that would be it then

cunning mist Jan 8, 2021, 7:30 PM

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👍

wispy depot Jan 8, 2021, 7:30 PM

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actually I have it on a custom layer and player local but I guess thats still an issue

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really unfortunate

cunning mist Jan 8, 2021, 7:31 PM

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Yeah, MirrorReflection needs to be the one you use for any larger trigger colliders to avoid that issue.

wispy depot Jan 8, 2021, 7:31 PM

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the problem is they become global

cunning mist Jan 8, 2021, 7:32 PM

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Udon doesn't rely on custom layers nearly to the extent Triggers needed them, so your situation can likely be reworked.

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What's your setup you're trying to get working?

wispy depot Jan 8, 2021, 7:33 PM

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I'm using SetActiveFromPlayer to toggle parts of the world on and off locally depending on what part your in

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there didnt seem to be a way to do so locally

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without maybe explicitly writing something in C# for it, but most of that is beyond me

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there didnt seem to be a way to make on player enter/exit, on player local

raven peak Jan 8, 2021, 7:35 PM

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wispy depot Jan 8, 2021, 7:35 PM

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I'll give that a shot jet, thanks

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I tried so much lol https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/520171806561402880/797132478182850641/unknown.png

raven peak Jan 8, 2021, 7:36 PM

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ya that will always be true.

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got to get the person actually entering the trigger.

wispy depot Jan 8, 2021, 7:36 PM

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I figured after trying but gave it a go

scarlet lake Jan 8, 2021, 7:53 PM

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Why can't you add shaders to quest?

cunning mist Jan 8, 2021, 8:07 PM

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You can for worlds, it's just not recommended. The Quest, being an arm-based setup, doesn't handle graphic computations as well as a PC, so they struggle to do fancy stuff.

wispy depot Jan 8, 2021, 8:20 PM

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Thanks for the help guys, its all working now.

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 8:45 PM

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Oculus Quest = literally a mobile phone strapped to your face

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 9:09 PM

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Checking my understanding here. the (Vector3, float) mode of Transform.Rotate users a Vector3 to define an axis, and then rotates around that axis by degrees defined by the float.

But Vector3 is not a super intuitive way to define an axis (maybe there is no super intuitve way). Because in this context a value of (3,4,5) is equivalent to (6,8,10), correct?

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raven peak Jan 8, 2021, 9:24 PM

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void ridge Checking my understanding here. the (Vector3, float) mode of `Transform.Rotate` ...

usually when defining a axis its normalized to one to indicate the direction (0,0,1) or (0, .5, .5). to indicate the magnitude or how strong the direction is its multiplied like (0,0,2) is a magnitude of 2.

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 9:25 PM

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Also there is a mathematical concept to define an Axis: Quaternions

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They are everything but intuitive, but they do their job well.

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Technically Quaternions dont define an axis, they define a rotation, but if you apply the rotation to the identity/forward axis then you get an axis.

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Quaternions were once explained to me this way:
"They fix gimbal lock."
"What's gimbal lock, and how do they fix it?"
"They fix gimbal lock."

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Yeah, I understand how a rotation will define an axis. (0,0,0) is an axis, just not yet rotated.

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 9:28 PM

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Well 0,0,0 is just a point

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:P

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Axes are more or less axiomatic

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But yeah just use Vector3.Forward * Quaternion (or vice versa dont remember right now) and you get the Vector that is rotated by the rotation the Quaternion describes.

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Obviously getting that Quaternion is hard, but there is a lot of Utility methods to calculate one for many situations.

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However thats probably more advanced than necessary in most cases. Youre probably fine just using Rotate. But yeah in that case I dont think it matters if the axis is normalized or not. It might even do the normalization internally anyway.

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 9:34 PM

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well, what's important is that 1 represents a full rotation around that axis, right?

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so (3,4,5) would be equivalent to (1,1,1)

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 9:34 PM

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No

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Vectors are equivalent in this case when they are component-wise multiples of each other

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 9:37 PM

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I'm gonna keep reading the Unity docs like I should be 😛

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 9:37 PM

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Linear Algebra is fun :^)

void ridge Jan 8, 2021, 9:39 PM

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..the documents actually, for real, say "don't modify these unless you know exactly what you're doing." 🤦

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Cheeky docs.

chilly crater Jan 8, 2021, 10:48 PM

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Is there some new fancy way to target the player camera in Udon? All of my google searching keeps pointing to the SDK2 Toybox prefab.

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 11:00 PM

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No

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Player Camera is protected and there is no supported override system

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You can render over it, but its not supported and a struggle.

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If you however just want to get the position/rotation of the "Camera" then TrackingData.Head is exactly that

chilly crater Jan 8, 2021, 11:01 PM

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Oh thank god.

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I just want the position

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 11:01 PM

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Yeah

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Then just use the TrackingData from the Head

chilly crater Jan 8, 2021, 11:03 PM

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Now to translate that for a lookat

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 11:04 PM

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Well the build-in lookat requires a Transform. But to get a vector pointing from A to B you subtract A from B (so B - A) and then normalize it to get a Direction-Vector. Then you you can transform that into a Quaternion by using Quaterion.LookRotation and then use the Quaternion as the rotation for the object.

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Super easy :)

mighty fjord Jan 8, 2021, 11:05 PM

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Are there currently any known issues with 'for loops' and arrays in the Udon Graph?

chilly crater Jan 8, 2021, 11:08 PM

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oh boy, converting this to an udon graph is going to be fun. This isn't sarcasm.

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I'm stuck at what to do with the quat after the LookRotation.

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fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 11:16 PM

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You set it as the rotation of the transform, of the GameObject that you want to lookat the other object. So in this case A

mighty fjord Jan 8, 2021, 11:16 PM

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I've once again ran into an issue where a loop tries to retrieve a value or object from an array, but instead of it yielding what I'd expect, it either gives me null or some value might seem like it makes sense yet it doesnt.
The fix for this issue that I'm currently using is to pull these 'schrödingers arrays' into a debug log inside of the loop right before I need to use them, and for some reason that makes them work.
Honestly, I have no idea what's going on with that.

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 11:17 PM

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lol good luck

chilly crater Jan 8, 2021, 11:19 PM

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wait... I did all that math and I can just do a set rotation instead of a LookAt?

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 11:19 PM

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Well obviously you can set the rotation of transform...but you need to provide a Quaternion :P

chilly crater Jan 8, 2021, 11:20 PM

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I wanted a magic variable I could use as an instance.

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Look at "blah"

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 11:20 PM

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Ohh

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well if that is a Transform

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then you can just do Transform.LookAt(otherTransform)

chilly crater Jan 8, 2021, 11:20 PM

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I want an object to look at the playercamera.

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 11:21 PM

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Well yeah

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then either

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you need a dummy Transform

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that you set to the position of the camera every frame before doing the lookat

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or you calculate the lookat stuff yourself

chilly crater Jan 8, 2021, 11:21 PM

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Yeah, the math way sounds easier.

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 11:21 PM

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Its probably more performant and easier to have a dummy transform

chilly crater Jan 8, 2021, 11:22 PM

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But that involves an objectpool and parenting it on join and destroy on leave.

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 11:22 PM

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Depends on what youre doing

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But yeah calculating it yourself doesnt require any scene-objects

chilly crater Jan 8, 2021, 11:23 PM

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Small floaty skull in a room that creepily looks at you.

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I was gonna do an area trigger to toggle the skull on/off when you enter/exit.

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So it's not running all the time.

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 11:23 PM

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Back in SDK2 I had a giant vrpill head that always looked at you in my test world lol

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Was horrifying

chilly crater Jan 8, 2021, 11:24 PM

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So the math route isn't so bad in my usecase?

fiery yoke Jan 8, 2021, 11:24 PM

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Well its more instructions

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but shouldnt be noticeable at all

void ridge Jan 9, 2021, 1:10 AM

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I'm running into an issue where my movement controls on Screen mode are slow to react 🤔 I'll press W to go forward, for example, and it hesitates for a second or two before I move. It's intermittent, though. Happening in test builds. I've been abusing Event.FixedUpdate a lot recently--could that be related?

shut abyss Jan 9, 2021, 1:55 AM

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Does anyone know what this is?

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I can play test fine but when I try to upload I get these errors

twin drift Jan 9, 2021, 2:20 AM

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Is it cool to ask Udon Sharp questions here?

dapper lion Jan 9, 2021, 2:22 AM

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usually

twin drift Jan 9, 2021, 2:22 AM

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One of the features Udon Sharp's readme says it supports is being able to reference custom classes, but I haven't been able to do that at all

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I've tried it both as a private class within the udon sharp class I'm writing, as well as a public class in another file.

haughty depot Jan 9, 2021, 3:25 AM

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Assets\Music Visualization\musicvis.cs(12,61): System.Exception: Method is not exposed to Udon: Void GetSpectrumData(Single[], Int32, UnityEngine.FFTWindow), Udon signature: UnityEngineAudioListener.__GetSpectrumData__SystemSingleArray_SystemInt32_UnityEngineFFTWindow__SystemVoid
``` How to fix this

unborn hornet Jan 9, 2021, 3:27 AM

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twin drift Is it cool to ask Udon Sharp questions here?

People do occasionally, but is it preferred to ask directly on the U# discord server. You can find links to it in the pinned messages of this channel.

raven peak Jan 9, 2021, 3:32 AM

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haughty depot ```cs Assets\Music Visualization\musicvis.cs(12,61): System.Exception: Method is...

As it says that method is not exposed. I would suggest looking at https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/AudioSource.GetSpectrumData.html but its just for audio sources.

haughty depot Jan 9, 2021, 3:35 AM

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unborn hornet People do occasionally, but is it preferred to ask directly on the U# discord se...

cant find discord linked pls send U# inv to me

unborn hornet Jan 9, 2021, 3:49 AM

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Literally the first purple link on the page. https://github.com/MerlinVR/UdonSharp/wiki

GitHub

MerlinVR/UdonSharp

An experimental compiler for compiling C# to Udon assembly - MerlinVR/UdonSharp

dawn oxide Jan 9, 2021, 4:46 AM

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how would you get a camera to follow the player in a minimap? I'm currently using the render texture with a camera

paper plinth Jan 9, 2021, 12:31 PM

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Maybe set the camera's position to TrackingData.Head minus 2 on Z?

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For the rotation you can rotate to a direction but I don't understand it yet

void ridge Jan 9, 2021, 3:34 PM

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I'm stick trying to tell a particle system to Emit. This is where I'm at so far

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I'm assuming I need to input the Particle System component of the separate game object, but that's where I'm stuck

fiery yoke Jan 9, 2021, 4:33 PM

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@void ridge Emit only works with Burst Particle Systems

void ridge Jan 9, 2021, 4:36 PM

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OK, so I probably want ParticleSystem.Play then?

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If so, I'm still stuck on the same issue--how do I plug in the component

fiery yoke Jan 9, 2021, 4:44 PM

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Instead of using Component.GetComponent, how about GameObject.GetComponent? :P

void ridge Jan 9, 2021, 4:50 PM

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That sounds better. I still don't have a great handle on how that stuff is organized

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Yeah, that's working. Thanks Helper

hoary echo Jan 9, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Is there any way to pull a player's distance from the closest point of an object's collider, instead of just the pivot point of the object?

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Or I guess, distance from any point of the object, and not just the one

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Nvm, time to learn raycasts

hoary ocean Jan 9, 2021, 5:52 PM

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can udon be used to pull the new vrchat player icons?

fiery yoke Jan 9, 2021, 5:53 PM

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No. And probably wont ever be able to. But maybe, who knows.

mighty quiver Jan 9, 2021, 6:20 PM

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may sound stupid, but how do i make a interact() trigger global with Udon#? (yes i hate the node based programming)

prisma abyss Jan 9, 2021, 6:56 PM

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What is this? VRCUrl is blocked or missing in UdonGraph???

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is SDK3 broken?

dapper lion Jan 9, 2021, 7:04 PM

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@prisma abyss what is that?

prisma abyss Jan 9, 2021, 7:05 PM

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Normally there is field for VRCUrl, but it seems doesn't recognize anymore, and thinks it's invalid function because there is no editor type for it.

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Means something is changed in last SDK3 version.

dapper lion Jan 9, 2021, 7:06 PM

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@prisma abyss are you using the new udonsharp?

prisma abyss Jan 9, 2021, 7:06 PM

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Yes, why?

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0.19

dapper lion Jan 9, 2021, 7:06 PM

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ah, you might wanna try going back or use an older sdk, that video player has hit the dust like 3 weeks ago

prisma abyss Jan 9, 2021, 7:07 PM

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did it cause some bug"?

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oh wow

dapper lion Jan 9, 2021, 7:07 PM

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a few yea