#udon-general | VRChat | Page 28

fallen prawn Sep 21, 2020, 3:29 PM

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How time and duration work on live stream URL?

floral dove Sep 21, 2020, 3:43 PM

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@chrome oracle check your VRChat logs for details - not the easiest thing to decipher but it could provide some insight.

hushed gazelle Sep 21, 2020, 3:55 PM

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I'm trying to output the quaternation of a transform.getRotation node via a toString node into the debug log, but it's returning null. The getPosition works fine, but not getRotation. I'm not sure if this is a bug, or I'm missing something.

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chrome oracle Sep 21, 2020, 4:08 PM

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@floral dove Can I DM you the log? I don't want to post it here in case I accidentally leak something

dark tiger Sep 21, 2020, 4:49 PM

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What does Scale on the VRC Avatar Pedestal component does?

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I don't find any noticeable difference :p

native estuary Sep 21, 2020, 4:59 PM

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That value is pretty much just legacy

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If you want to scale the picture just scale the placement

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That got pretty unsustainable pretty fast 😄

dark tiger Sep 21, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Nice. Thx

thick sable Sep 21, 2020, 7:12 PM

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@floral dove Pardon the repost, but I would really love your input on this. I think it might be a bug. The two connecting branches don't seem to get along. Ive tried to use a block, but that didn't work either.

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This does work tho.

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floral dove Sep 21, 2020, 7:57 PM

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@thick sable if you think you've found a bug, Canny is the right place to report it. Please don't ping me if we're not in an active conversation.

thick sable Sep 21, 2020, 8:03 PM

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I'll go post it on the canny, but I was trying to establish if it was a bug or not since I don't know if its a bug or an error on my part. Apologies for bothering.

floral dove Sep 21, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Understood. I took a quick look when you first posted over the weekend but can't know if it's a bug vs an implementation issue without some more details about what exactly isn't working, how your scene is setup, etc. Today's busy with work supporting the last release, so a Canny is just a much better place to have an ongoing conversation about an issue if we need to dive a bit deeper.

tardy glade Sep 21, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Is udon complicated to use and what is it like? Is it similar to python are box coding?

floral dove Sep 21, 2020, 8:26 PM

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@tardy glade https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/what-is-udon

VRChat

What is Udon?

What’s this Udon thing anyways? VRChat Udon is a programming language built completely in-house by the VRChat Development Team. It is designed to be secure, performant, and easy to use via the VRChat Udon Node Graph, a built-in visual programming interface that uses nodes and ...

tardy glade Sep 21, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Oh thanks

scarlet lake Sep 21, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Can quest users use the new video player?

floral dove Sep 21, 2020, 8:32 PM

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@scarlet lake yes, but Quest has limited supported for codecs, etc. I'll write up the info I've got on that this week.

scarlet lake Sep 21, 2020, 8:32 PM

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So, if I allow them to use the video player in my world, it isn't going to cause a huge problem?

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Last thing I want is for quest users to crash or get huge visual bugs in my world and scare them away UWU had that happen with the pens xD they start drawing and their screen basically goes wee woo (its probably the unlit shader idk)

floral dove Sep 21, 2020, 8:34 PM

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they won't be able to use any links from YouTube, Vimeo, etc - only direct links to supported MP4s.

scarlet lake Sep 21, 2020, 8:34 PM

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weird x3 so don't even bother having it for them, that kinda sucks

stark fiber Sep 21, 2020, 8:55 PM

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It is normal for OnPlayerJoined to trigger multiple times for a single player?

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fiery yoke Sep 21, 2020, 8:55 PM

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No that is a bug introduced a few updates ago.

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It also happens with OnPlayerLeft

stark fiber Sep 21, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Ah, I thought I was going crazy! Thanks for letting me know, hope it's fixed soon~

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Any known work arounds currently?

fiery yoke Sep 21, 2020, 8:56 PM

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No easy ones I guess

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If they happen right after another, then you could keep track of the playerID and compare them

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if they are the same just discard that one

stark fiber Sep 21, 2020, 8:57 PM

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I'll do some experimentation then. Thanks again for the help!

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Do playerID's always remain unique, or are they re-assigned if a player leaves and another enters?

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I was thinking of keeping track of players via array and ignoring duplicates that way, but ID's would be useful if they're genuinely unique

fiery yoke Sep 21, 2020, 9:01 PM

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IDs arent unique, but they are unique to the same player :P

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PlayerID is just an incrementing counter

stark fiber Sep 21, 2020, 9:03 PM

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That's a shame, I'm finding the lack of unique identifiers for players a bit of a chore to work around.
Even a GetUsername instead of GetDisplayname would work, or player assigned UUID's :c

scarlet lake Sep 21, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Is there a way to search for materials with a specific shader? SDK is telling me there's a material with Standard shader on it (uploading too quest) but I can't freaking find the material its saying

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Is standard going to actually cause issues?

Another question, is the Platform synchronization issues fixed? Had to disable Sync Positions on my pickups for quest users because what they picked up, would be totally different to what we see them pickup

Example: They pick up a pillow, PC user's see them picking up a teddy bear.

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We pick up a ball, they see us pick up a pillow

floral dove Sep 21, 2020, 9:52 PM

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@scarlet lake - have you filed that Platform sync issue as a bug on Canny? I've never heard of that until now.

scarlet lake Sep 21, 2020, 9:52 PM

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It's been a bug from when I first started adding pick-up items, no I haven't because I wasn't sure if it was a Me issue or a known issue, i'll happily file it if given the link ❤️

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https://vrchat.canny.io/ is this it?

VRChat Feedback

Give feedback to the VRChat team so they can make more informed product decisions. Powered by Canny.

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https://vrchat.canny.io/vrchat-udon-closed-alpha-bugs/p/platform-sync-issues Hope I filed it right

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inb4 posted in the wrong thread, idk how this all works

native estuary Sep 21, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Would be good to include a repro world or steps to repro from empty project

scarlet lake Sep 21, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Would have to upload a private version of my world or something because right now, I have item sync disabled for quest users because it would cause item spatic lag

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Like, quest pick up a small item, PC users see them pick up a larger item, quest presses it against the floor or something and they go crazy because the collision boxes are different lol

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im sure they can put together a flat plane world with some pickups and try it out

floral dove Sep 21, 2020, 10:02 PM

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@scarlet lake - I replied in the canny so we can diagnose and track this issue - but it would be helpful if you could make a simple repro that had this behaviour because I've got two cross-platform worlds with pickups that don't have this problem.

scarlet lake Sep 21, 2020, 10:03 PM

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heckie, unless im doing something wrong, pretty sure they just need an empty Udon behavior script with Sync Position enabled, correct?

floral dove Sep 21, 2020, 10:05 PM

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yep, that sounds right

scarlet lake Sep 21, 2020, 10:05 PM

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floral dove Sep 21, 2020, 10:05 PM

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you've got sync position off there

scarlet lake Sep 21, 2020, 10:05 PM

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(I have it disabled right now)

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because of the issue, thats why x3

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for quest, PC it's enabled

floral dove Sep 21, 2020, 10:06 PM

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ah, ok. If you can reproduce the issue in a simple scene that we could check out then we can verify the issue and work on it.

scarlet lake Sep 21, 2020, 10:07 PM

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I can enable it right now, upload my world ||~~WHEN I CAN FIND THE MATERIAL WITH STANDARD SHADER ON~~|| and upload it, send you the world link

agile oasis Sep 21, 2020, 10:08 PM

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im trying to animate a tea pot and ive got everything down , but udon wont pick up my animator oof. does anyone know how to add my animator into the udon behavior- i know i have to set it to public variable , but i have little to no clue how to do it

floral dove Sep 21, 2020, 10:08 PM

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we'll need a unitypackage with the full scene to test it, otherwise we have no way of knowing what you might have changed between uploading the PC and Quest versions. The more minimal your scene, the better.

scarlet lake Sep 21, 2020, 10:09 PM

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oh, i see

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Alright, I guess I can make a little flatworld with some items for you.

floral dove Sep 21, 2020, 10:09 PM

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@agile oasis - you can check out this tutorial about triggering Animators: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95jRByYHE4Y&list=PLe9XHNvXcouQjg5GULWGLj1tMzeythnQi&index=4

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@scarlet lake that would be great!

agile oasis Sep 21, 2020, 10:13 PM

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thanks for that

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ill give it a try

sweet drift Sep 21, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Are there any other ways to manipulate a player's physics with UDON other than using the VRCPlayerApi class's SetVelocity or TeleportTo methods? Also, is there any documentation on what these methods do anywhere? Also, what happened to the old SetAngularVelocity/AddForce/AddVelocity methods from https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/vrchat-201821 ? Are we ever going to get better methods for controlling the forces of a player in VRC?

floral dove Sep 21, 2020, 10:22 PM

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@sweet drift - what else do you want to do to the Player?
SetVelocity lets you manipulate the velocity of the Player's RigidBody, TeleportTo lets you move the Player directly to a particular position and rotation.
Those methods you linked to are for generic RigidBodies, not for the Player.
What do you want from "better methods"?

fiery yoke Sep 21, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Has the bug been fixed where you couldnt set velocity when grounded?

sweet drift Sep 21, 2020, 10:26 PM

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@floral dove I want to be able to be able to sync motion between the player and an object without using a chair so that the player looks like they are moving along with the object seamlessly and their walking animation does not play.

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Current attemps I have experimented with and seen others try to do with this leave the player sliding in different directions and not respecting physics like centripetal forces and such.

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@fiery yoke I think so because I was setting velocity today and my avatar was moving with the force of it while grounded.

fiery yoke Sep 21, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Good

sweet drift Sep 21, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Also, even if I used complicated math to sync objects manually using the TeleportTo method, the player's menu UI slides off into space.

floral dove Sep 21, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Hm - I think stations are your best bet for that sort of thing, I believe they're meant to enable that sort of behavior.

fiery yoke Sep 21, 2020, 10:45 PM

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That would be kinda bad tho, since they force you into an animation set

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I really doubt that they are "meant" for that sort of mechanic.

sweet drift Sep 21, 2020, 10:46 PM

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What is a station?

fiery yoke Sep 21, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Basically a Chair

sweet drift Sep 21, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Oh ok, the VRCStation object in the SDK you mean

floral dove Sep 21, 2020, 10:49 PM

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right. I believe they let you override the animations on a player so their legs don't flail around, haven't done that myself though

fiery yoke Sep 21, 2020, 10:49 PM

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The problem is that they override other stuff as well

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Because they then use the sitting animations

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Also you obviously cant move when in an imobilized station, so if you want to have a platform that moves you around with it, but still be able to move around on the platform...then you cant use them

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Stations are not meant for locomotion

sweet drift Sep 21, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Yup and so thus answers my question pretty much, there just isn't methods in the SDK capable of manipulating movement fluidly in VRC yet, but thank you for the information.

fiery yoke Sep 21, 2020, 10:53 PM

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The problem is mostly within networking

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You could just teleport the player every frame

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But teleports are not meant for that

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No idea why we cant just set the players transform position

serene moat Sep 21, 2020, 10:54 PM

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It would be nice if stations' ability to control the transforms of players was divorced from the ability to control player animations/bone transforms whenever they get around to updating that stuff for Udon

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there are plenty of cases where you want one but not the other

sweet drift Sep 21, 2020, 10:56 PM

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@fiery yoke There's a request for that currently actually https://vrchat.canny.io/vrchat-udon-closed-alpha-feedback/p/expose-player-transform-in-udon

fiery yoke Sep 21, 2020, 10:56 PM

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I mean there is (hopefully) a good reason that its not exposed.

serene moat Sep 21, 2020, 10:58 PM

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people were actually able to mess with the transform of the player for a while in SDK2, which let them actually flip players upside down without the station desync thing

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but it screwed with the locomotion a lot

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the locomotion controller really doesn't expect the player to be rotated any other way than straight up

fiery yoke Sep 21, 2020, 10:59 PM

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I mean they could just clean that up inside the rotation setter

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Have some proxy for the rotation cancel out any x/z rotation. Done.

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Or just allow Y rotation through some other method

serene moat Sep 21, 2020, 11:00 PM

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it depends on the use case, if they just have a thing to set the Y rotation that could work

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but people are going to ask why they can't just flip the player upside down or something

agile oasis Sep 21, 2020, 11:00 PM

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gods, im attempting to do the thing, but now udon is giving me an error saying "the object refrence not set to an instance of an object". im not quite sure how to go about fixing this

fiery yoke Sep 21, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Right now people are asking why they cant just set the position, so that isnt an argument :P

serene moat Sep 21, 2020, 11:01 PM

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I mean they should expose a way to set the position

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but that doesn't solve a lot of issues

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like the IK foot stepping dragging behind players

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they'd need a more complete way to control stuff like that

fiery yoke Sep 21, 2020, 11:01 PM

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I guess VRChat isnt meant to have complex custom locomotion

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But that really sucks if moving platforms just dont move you

serene moat Sep 21, 2020, 11:02 PM

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also I think that canny asking for setting the player transform was made before the interpolate on remote option was added, I'm not sure if that fixes the network spam but I'd hope it does

valid oar Sep 21, 2020, 11:02 PM

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How can I use a trigger to set the position of multiple objects? It won't let me create multiple instances of the Enter Player Trigger node or connect that node to multiple set position nodes. Do I have to layer multiple triggers on top of each other?

serene moat Sep 21, 2020, 11:03 PM

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though teleport has other issues

valid oar Sep 21, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Basically I want that one "on player trigger enter" node to control all the set position nodes but it will only let me connect it to one.

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fiery yoke Sep 21, 2020, 11:05 PM

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There is an arrow that goes inside the node and one that goes outside the node. Just grab the arrow that goes outside and connect it to the next inside arrow

valid oar Sep 21, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Oh, okay, I'll try that. Thanks.

agile oasis Sep 21, 2020, 11:18 PM

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is there any way to manually set an object reference for the udon behavior graph, i got it to drag in , but the animator isnt registering at all in the script block. it wont allow me to even drag the animator in, just kinda- has an error saying theres no public variables.

valid oar Sep 21, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Could you drag in another public variable or create a new one and then use the highlighted button to select your animator? Not sure if that's what you're looking for.

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agile oasis Sep 21, 2020, 11:36 PM

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yeah , for me it just says nothings there sadly

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ive been actively trying to drag something in there but it wont take anything i pop in oof

floral dove Sep 21, 2020, 11:49 PM

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@agile oasis use the plus button on the Variables window to make a new variable, and set it to 'public' to get it to show up as a Public Variable. You may want to read / review the docs: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/udon-node-graph-upgrade

fiery yoke Sep 21, 2020, 11:49 PM

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i think their graph is borked

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it shouldnt give you a NRE in the Assembly

agile oasis Sep 21, 2020, 11:52 PM

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nvm, the udon was messed up had to save and open the project everything working now

floral dove Sep 21, 2020, 11:53 PM

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@valid oar - btw your use case of having an event do a few things in order is also exactly what the 'Block' node is for.

valid oar Sep 22, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Ah, it's like a splitter. Very nice. Can you add additional outputs so I can have it control 3 nodes or would I just have to chain one of the blocks into another block?

vivid prism Sep 22, 2020, 12:13 AM

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how do you get controller joystick input? I tried using Input.GetAxisRaw, but I cant seem to get any values from them.

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nevermind, I just forgot to put it into the update function

floral dove Sep 22, 2020, 12:51 AM

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@valid oar - you can add additional outputs. Each time you use one, another empty one appears below.

median smelt Sep 22, 2020, 1:38 AM

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can someone give me a run down on teleporting a player somewhere when interacting with an object? im a beginner with Udon

floral dove Sep 22, 2020, 2:30 AM

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@median smelt read through the Udon docs: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/getting-started-with-udon
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/using-build-test
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/udon-node-graph-upgrade
Then this will make sense: use an Interact event to call VRCPlayerApi.TeleportTo on the Local Player.

rotund lion Sep 22, 2020, 4:53 AM

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I'm trying to upload my world but I'm getting a ton of errors and the world flat out isn't uploading, any ideas?

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floral dove Sep 22, 2020, 4:55 AM

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@rotund lion - looks like you're making an SDK2 world, this channel is for SDK3. You can try #world-development. First thing is to fix all of those errors.

rotund lion Sep 22, 2020, 4:55 AM

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I just downloaded the newest sdk

native estuary Sep 22, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Ruuubick just sent them to this channel 😄

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Here's the non downscaled picture

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They seem to have a bunch of udon assets

rotund lion Sep 22, 2020, 4:57 AM

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thanks

floral dove Sep 22, 2020, 5:12 AM

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oh! I saw the 'VRCSDK2' error, but that's a dependency thing that hasn't been moved to core yet.
@rotund lion - you'll need to work your way through those errors one by one, you've got a LOT of them. Looks like maybe you're combining a whole bunch of asset packs?
I recommend you start by reading the getting started docs and beginner tutorials. Get the demo scene running and then you can learn to modify it and make your own scene. Then you can try bringing in other people's assets, but it will be easiest if you just do one package at a time so you can see if something gives you an error when you bring it in.
First 3 Udon Docs:
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/getting-started-with-udon
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/using-build-test
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/udon-node-graph-upgrade

rotund lion Sep 22, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Alright, thanks.

echo coral Sep 22, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Do the Udon streaming video players support any audio only formats like ogg/mp3/m4a through the supported CDNs?

floral dove Sep 22, 2020, 6:27 AM

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@echo coral yes - the AVPro player supports MP3, FLAC and more.

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📎 AVProVideo-UserManual.pdf

cedar cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:56 AM

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Upgrading SDK2 world to SDK3, simple as deleting old VRCSDK folders and importing SDK3 and making all the toggles etc work again or is there some other settings to mess with?

floral dove Sep 22, 2020, 7:57 AM

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you'll need to delete all your triggers, etc too.

cedar cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Yep ofc, but i faintly remember that you have to change some project settings or something?

floral dove Sep 22, 2020, 8:01 AM

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Hm. You could make sure there's no Scripting Define Symbols left by SDK2. I've never tried to upgrade so I'm not sure.

cedar cairn Sep 22, 2020, 8:15 AM

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Hmmm yeah. Maybe i just re do the world then

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fallen prawn Sep 22, 2020, 2:34 PM

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How to set volume from UISlider for AVPro Speaker?
I use typical UIEvent way and it doesn't work at all.

floral dove Sep 22, 2020, 4:37 PM

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@fallen prawn you can have the volume changes trigger an UdonBehaviour which sets the volume.

fallen prawn Sep 22, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Is it normal that AVProVideoPlayer.SetTime(float a) sound gone silence for a short period (about .5 sec)?

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Also is Live stream always give .GetDuration() value to less than 0?

fiery yoke Sep 22, 2020, 5:58 PM

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That is probably intended. A livestream has no known duration, so it gives you a value thats otherwise unreachable to tell you that its not a normal video.

scarlet lake Sep 22, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Am i the only one having problems with the new video player?

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No one who comes to my world can see the screen

night bluff Sep 22, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Here's a question that some people are thinking, how come Steelin' Gold and other older VRChat games haven't made a return yet?

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🤔

distant abyss Sep 22, 2020, 8:23 PM

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How do people upload movies to worlds? Do they just get links and use different toggles for the video players?

light fjord Sep 22, 2020, 8:38 PM

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btw does anyone know if OnPlayerJoined Triggers for everyone in the world? or is it only for world owner?

prisma abyss Sep 22, 2020, 8:46 PM

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I was busy with getting data from MerlinVR's USharpvideo. But still problems. Here what i did so far:

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Still no status, stays on False. (IsPlaying output)
The code part here convert timespan to string:

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Is here, but it gives format error. (must have with 3 floats for me)

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Also, i don't get currentTime output, stays at zero. So what is missing here?

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The source is correct pointed, but i have no results.

floral dove Sep 22, 2020, 8:50 PM

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@prisma abyss - does it work if you use the overload with just the string? You've got the one with the IFormatProvider selected but you're not providing one

prisma abyss Sep 22, 2020, 8:58 PM

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If only string without provider, error is gone. With it, it says wrong format type or so

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As you can see i need formatted time output. But not only that, i have also no getting data from player. So i am stuck too.

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without data, i have no output here.

obtuse agate Sep 22, 2020, 9:32 PM

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@fallen prawn live stream has GetDuration() == Infinity

valid oar Sep 22, 2020, 11:53 PM

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So I got my door working but there's an issue where if two people enter the trigger and then one leaves, the door closes where I want the door to remain open so long as there is anyone in the trigger area. How could I modify this behavior?

vivid prism Sep 23, 2020, 12:07 AM

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How do you use the OnPlayerTriggerEnter in U#?

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nvm got it. just used the class exposure tool to get what I needed

scarlet lake Sep 23, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Can somebody tell me how to make a little cube that I can grab, throw (with physics), and toggle a light on it? (I want it to glow). I'm not a coder or anything and Udon is extremely confusing. No video guides on youtube are helpful for my case.

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Please?

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 12:32 AM

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@scarlet lake - you can start learning about Udon here: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/what-is-udon

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I recommend reading through that info, followed by:
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/getting-started-with-udon
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/using-build-test
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/udon-node-graph-upgrade

scarlet lake Sep 23, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Errr.. I just want to figure out how to make that specific cube with abilities. I don't want to learn Udon as a whole.

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 12:37 AM

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There's examples of most of what you want to do in the materials that come with the SDK, but at the very least you'll need to download Unity and the SDK and learn how to test & publish your world, even if someone gave you the exact program that you need 😄

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The docs above teach you how to do that

lilac hatch Sep 23, 2020, 12:39 AM

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You're looking to do a pick up & use prop, there's some videos about it on youtube

scarlet lake Sep 23, 2020, 12:40 AM

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False. I already tried searching up what I wanted to create, and nothing surfaces. I need more than just being able to grab an object. Anyone with a brain can understand the videos on youtube are pretty bad and fail to explain most things. Nevermind though, don't need insults or rude responses.

lilac hatch Sep 23, 2020, 12:41 AM

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"& use"

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Then you gotta tell the script what to do obviously, in your case: light up the cube

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Tbf udon is a pain if you don't feel like learning, i'd recommend to stay on sdk2

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vrcAevSip

agile oasis Sep 23, 2020, 1:19 AM

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tbh, making an object that has udon coding with a use function is a pain. i haven't been able to find a good tutorial ( since many people tend to overload the tutorials they make with a mass amount of information for a very specific project they themselves are working on adding functions to it that one might not need ect without explaining what is for what) , or figure out how exactly to get the function to work properly and no one really helps much in that stance so i can understand that persons frustrations no offense. been trying to learn the udon functionality and coding for about 3 months now and the sdk3 has alot of roundabouts that you really have to cheese your way through before even getting 10% through a simple trigger animation use function.

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 1:22 AM

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@agile oasis let me know if there's any specific tutorials or docs you'd like to see. There's a lot to learn since you need to know Unity as well as VRChat and some C# /programming terms. Always happy to hear if you think something is missing.

agile oasis Sep 23, 2020, 1:23 AM

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i honestly think a good set of basic udon functions as simple tutorials would be benificial, such as the simple use fuctionality, how to trigger animations upon use of an object , things that players might use all the time that long time VRchat world dev's might not think is really a big deal

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 1:24 AM

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I do focus on 'learning to learn' when I provide help here, since I think that becoming a creative programmer is greatly helped by learning how build your basic programming and technical comprehension skills.

agile oasis Sep 23, 2020, 1:25 AM

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yeah lol, i got some help from the tutorials, though im still tryina code a tea pot with partical collision to fill a cup XD

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 1:25 AM

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@agile oasis I'm curious - no judgement here either way - but did you go through the UdonExampleScene and the Readme that comes with it? I really tried to cover a lot of the basics there but I often find that people haven't really gone through it.

agile oasis Sep 23, 2020, 1:25 AM

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basic world needs were covered after many times of trial and error

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 1:25 AM

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I know some people don't learn as well from reading a picture-less doc

agile oasis Sep 23, 2020, 1:25 AM

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and indeed , ive gone through it alot tbh

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though for me , starting out i was super confused oof.

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Yeah, I get that. I was thinking of make tutorial videos to go through everything in the example scene, do you think that would be helpful?

agile oasis Sep 23, 2020, 1:28 AM

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i feel that , im using a super out of date tutorial for food objects currently though once i figure out the best way to trigger an animation on use ( ive gone through about 20 trials )

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and yea ! i honestly think that would be extremely helpful specially in the long run

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might help anyone whos thinking of getting into udon get a head start

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same, theres a really big lack of tutorials for things that people have on their worlds i kinda had to develop my own system of pourable drinks for a moment , but then got hit with the ' triggering animations is 500 times harder now'

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tbh i think if the design is good, like those custom toggle buttons on Booth it'd be kinda worth it tho

fiery yoke Sep 23, 2020, 1:32 AM

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I want to do exactly that

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I want to make my pushable buttons free-for-all

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But Im not done with them yet so yeah

agile oasis Sep 23, 2020, 1:33 AM

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tbh if i figure out the perfect way to make pourable drinks ima yeet the tutorial into the void of the internet. i wanna see more worlds with ediable food and pourable/ drinkable drinks

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i find the simple stuff really amazing

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legit, ive seen it done on a hand full of worlds but 0 information on how to do it lol

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mainly with tea pots, but once i can figure it out and perfect it im sure it can be implemented into other drinks too

stark fiber Sep 23, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Does anybody have any ideas on how climbing can be done?

thorn pilot Sep 23, 2020, 2:52 AM

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Trying to understand the "VrcAvatar pedestal Set Avatar Use" node/function and was wondering if you can feed it a Player other than the one that clicked the (in this case) Avatar pedestal?
Or in other words is it possible with this function to change another players (that is in the same world) avatar?
Cause in my test i tried to give it another random player or a fixed player so that it changes the avatar of a random or said fixed player, but that didn't work, it only changed once own avatar, or in the latter case only if the fixed player pressed the pedestal.

ivory panther Sep 23, 2020, 2:53 AM

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What's the node/set up for getting user input from analog stick/touchpads on controllers?

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I see input get axis, but can't seem to figure out what to put before that

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 3:03 AM

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@thorn pilot no, users should always have the choice whether they want to switch their avatar.

thorn pilot Sep 23, 2020, 3:06 AM

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I kinda figured that was the reasoning behind that.
Thanks for the quick awnser 😄

fiery yoke Sep 23, 2020, 6:10 AM

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In SDK2 that was different

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You could change someones Avatar by force

lilac hatch Sep 23, 2020, 8:14 AM

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Would be gud to be able to force change avatar for game worlds 👀

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But it's understandable.

prisma abyss Sep 23, 2020, 3:36 PM

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@floral dove Any idea how to get working format?

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 6:19 PM

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@prisma abyss - please don't ping me if we're not in an active conversation. Try this:

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that node produces this output for me

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half rampart Sep 23, 2020, 6:23 PM

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who can make udon script?
need for interaction transition to gameobject (animator) parameters (int) of changing (global sync)
how in sdk2 (onInteract - animatorInt)
sorry im stupid, and i no understand how make global sync

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 6:44 PM

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@half rampart - should anyone be able to trigger this effect globally, or only the owner of the object?

half rampart Sep 23, 2020, 6:44 PM

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@floral dove everyone

stark adder Sep 23, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Just now i realized i asked my Udon question in Avatar Help..
Anyway.. Anyone knows if theres some kind of limit on how many UdonSynced variables you can have before VRC will just not sync it ? Also is OnDeserialization supposed to be called x times per second ?

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I know theres limit on max transfer rate but i somehow made it not sync at ALL not even after 10 minutes and with only 30 integers

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 6:54 PM

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@half rampart this simple graph should do what you want, with a couple caveats:

You'll need to make that animator variable public and set it in the inspector
You need to change targetProperty to match the property you want to change on the Animator
You need to set the value to whatever you want the value to be
You'll need a similar graph that changes the value back if you want to be able to change back to the original animation

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half rampart Sep 23, 2020, 6:56 PM

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@floral dove thanks i try it

sinful slate Sep 23, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Can anyone explain, why this graph might not work? I have a 2D audio source attached to the audioSource variable, which should play a sound when the player joins. Yet this doesn't seem to work

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floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 7:02 PM

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@stark adder the limit is not easily calculable, but 30 synced integers could overwhelm the system, especially if you have synced objects in the room as well. Yes, OnDeserialization can be called many times per second if you have many variables. The current Udon Sync system is not yet complete, which is why we don't have much documentation on it. We've got major improvements to sync in testing right now that will enable much better control over what is synced and when.

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@sinful slate - do you want this audio source to play for everyone when any player joins?

sinful slate Sep 23, 2020, 7:03 PM

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indeed

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and it's assigned like this

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ivory shoal Sep 23, 2020, 7:04 PM

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why are variables synced many times a second rather than when they're modified?

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 7:04 PM

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ok, then your graph looks correct. It can sometimes be hard to tell when Audio Sources actually play, so you can start by adding some debugging before or after your AudioSource.Play to make sure the event is firing as it should.
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/debugging-udon-projects

stark adder Sep 23, 2020, 7:04 PM

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hmm thats bad 30 ints is nothing from what i was planning

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even tho i need 99% of them synced once on join and then every link 30minutes..

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 7:06 PM

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@stark adder current sync is very limited, you'll need to work within those limits if you want things to work. I'd recommend saving your bigger ideas until the new sync system is launched, which gives better control and allows for syncing arrays.

ivory shoal Sep 23, 2020, 7:06 PM

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its really annoying right now how the sync system is terribly unoptimized, and there's also no option to pass parameters in network events so people cant make their own syncing system

sinful slate Sep 23, 2020, 7:06 PM

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@floral dove wondering, is there something on the roadmap to send network events with data?

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 7:06 PM

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@ivory shoal sorry, I'm not a network engineer so I don't know the details about why things were made the way they are.

stark adder Sep 23, 2020, 7:07 PM

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i guess no estimates ? weeks ? months? ?years?

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 7:08 PM

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@ivory shoal I hear you there - working around the current early-stage, unfinished sync system can be quite a pain. Parameters in Network Events will come after we implement parameters in events in Udon in general, which is the next big item on the list now that video players are in.

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@stark adder I'd estimate that our new sync system will be released within weeks not months.

stark adder Sep 23, 2020, 7:09 PM

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that would be super nice 🙂 i guess w'll see.. 🙂

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 7:09 PM

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@sinful slate - yes, Custom Events with Parameters are the next big Udon feature we're working on. Once we have that system built, we can add the ability to network events as well.

sinful slate Sep 23, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Looking forward to that 🙂

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 7:10 PM

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me too!

sinful slate Sep 23, 2020, 7:10 PM

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The only other thing I'd still love would be some kind of (small) localstorage

stark adder Sep 23, 2020, 7:10 PM

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same

sinful slate Sep 23, 2020, 7:10 PM

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for savegames and world preferences

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Right, I can see how some local storage would be very useful

stark adder Sep 23, 2020, 7:11 PM

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yea even like 50 kb would be maybe enough

sinful slate Sep 23, 2020, 7:11 PM

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yea even like 50 kb would be maybe enough
@stark adder Absolutely

errant pilot Sep 23, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Question: with video players, it is possible now to just stream audio?

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 7:14 PM

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@errant pilot - yes, with AVPro you can stream audio. I posted the manual in this channel yesterday which enumerates which formats are supported specifically.

sinful slate Sep 23, 2020, 7:15 PM

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@floral dove is it still using WMF, AKA, broken on linux?

errant pilot Sep 23, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Thank you Momo!

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This will reduce my world size by an extensive amount now!

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 7:23 PM

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@sinful slate I believe so - though I know the backend can be switched per platform (ie to use ExoPlayer on Android) I don't know if any of that switching is implemented. I thought the issue for Video Players on Linux was that it tried to run youtube-dl, I believe that was gated off.

sinful slate Sep 23, 2020, 7:24 PM

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@floral dove Actually no, youtube-dl was working perfectly fine. Disabling it just worked around the actual problem: WMF crashing when trying to play it, since it was not implemented. Proton 5 worked around that by stubbing WMF, while the fix introduced by VRChat simply removed it for any wine instance.

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Proper solution would be of course to just build VRChat for Linux as well, as then it would use the system's media framework

scarlet lake Sep 23, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Will the new sync system be launched soon, like this year?

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 8:30 PM

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@scarlet lake I'd estimate it's a few weeks away

scarlet lake Sep 23, 2020, 8:31 PM

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That's awesome

rough beacon Sep 23, 2020, 10:25 PM

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anyone getting bug from uploading that make user just sit down for some odd reason. like some bad upload?

sullen torrent Sep 23, 2020, 10:41 PM

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hey i have never used udon before but would it be possible to make walking on walls a possibality? If so how hard would it be to implement?

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 10:47 PM

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@sullen torrent - I don't know of a straightforward way to do that - the system has checks that keeps the user's avatar pointed up.

fiery yoke Sep 23, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Unless when in a station

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There is ways to do it, but they all use hacky and janky workaround. So yeah there is indeed no easy way to make that.

gusty oriole Sep 23, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Has anyone seen an Udon video player prefab that isn't Master Only? Or know how to convert it as such?

fiery yoke Sep 23, 2020, 10:54 PM

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They are relatively new, and the networking in Udon works very different from SDK2. I've been working on an SDK3 Video Player, but its quite a lot more complicated. So just give it some time and Im sure there will be plenty of Video Player Prefabs eventually.

gusty oriole Sep 23, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Alright, thanks.

floral dove Sep 23, 2020, 10:56 PM

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@gusty oriole - the easiest change to allow people to put in URLs would be to add an object that would give Ownership of the VideoPlayer object to whoever Interacts with it.

fiery yoke Sep 23, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Ownership transfer is especially "dangerous" when it comes to synced variables tho

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I honestly think its not really worth designing a Video Player until Networked Events with data happen. Because passing ownership around is much more prone to error than sending messages back and forth.

prisma abyss Sep 23, 2020, 11:14 PM

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@floral dove Because the problem not getting data from videoplayer with Base VRCVideoPlayer (no idea why), i decided to modify USharpvideo player to send data to text areas, then i can grab the text from textareas with another udon script, and it works. Even UdonBehaviour to get some values has some problems too.
I might made error in other script - so the script will stopped - i might check that later again. From now i can continue with time data.

Now i need split the big text string in smaller String[] rows as data, and i know the seperator is just Enter (hex value is 0A) - aka Enter / newline code. I saw Jetdogs Char To String with "Enter" char inside, but it doesn't work even i put in String[] and send to String Split.
I need find working way to split it, still searching for correct value.

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And i must use hh:mm:ss,fff format. This is now with success added in script of the videoplayer. No idea why Udon Graph has a error, but i give up and use directly from videoplayer with send data to text area - which is good enough for me.

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This is how it looks trying to split big string data.

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I am waiting for correct trick to split string. Then i can continue. I already read internet (it was even .NET information) but there is no much info which value can used.

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Yes, it's newline like \n or \r\n or \r. I need that to split string.

native fern Sep 23, 2020, 11:45 PM

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is the execution order Start before OnEnable intended? Unity does it differently: https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/ExecutionOrder.html

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Actually... it looks like UdonBehaviors don't receive OnEnable initially at all...?

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fiery yoke Sep 23, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Yeah thats another known issue. They initialize after the Behaviour sends that event, so they never receive it the first time.

native fern Sep 23, 2020, 11:56 PM

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ok... do you know if default Monobehaviour behaviour is the goal with Udon? 🙂

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because if that is the case I can write a bunch of tests ^^

snow arrow Sep 24, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Is it possible to make an event when the vrchat bind 'menu button' is pressed rather than a direct button press event?

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Also Helpful, what are the current networking constraints? Are the synced variables not actually working? I'm just no diving in with low base knowledge

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Am I even talking about the right thing LOL?

fiery yoke Sep 24, 2020, 12:09 AM

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They are working, but they constantly send the data (unless the behaviour is disabled). Bandwidth is also pretty heavily limited and gets used up pretty quickly if not careful.
They are also a little cumbersome to work with, since they dont tell you when they update, so you have to constantly check all of the variables.
And they are also the only way to late-sync data reliably.

snow arrow Sep 24, 2020, 12:09 AM

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yikers

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Do you have any insight if I can reference vrchat binds? Or maybe just reference when the menu is open. I'm trying to make my menus become an auxiliary of the vrchat menu for my admins / hosts to use for moderation. The idea is to attach them to the wrist like the vrchat menu but add a vector to offset it so it doesn't interfere. I did something similar with exmenu but it didn't follow the player's wrist

fiery yoke Sep 24, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Nope. Not possible afaik. You can only get the normal Unity Input stuff.

snow arrow Sep 24, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Ok. So I've figured out that I need to check if the player in VR --> check their input method --> and call that default button press for the menu and PRAY they didn't rebind

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well i can tell my hosts to leave their vrc menu on the default button but its an ugly solution

fiery yoke Sep 24, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Unfortunately VRChat does not provide any means to get any of the bound buttons.

snow arrow Sep 24, 2020, 12:20 AM

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cool beans. Thanks for your help as always.

dawn gull Sep 24, 2020, 1:42 AM

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I've looked through the pins and done a cursory chat search, but can't seem to find the C# code that the Udon Graph builds. It'd really help me to learn it if I could just find that. Anyone know how to get to it?

fiery yoke Sep 24, 2020, 2:03 AM

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@dawn gull The Udon Graph does not produce C# code. It instead procudes Udon Assembly Code. Which is then compiled into byte code, which runs in the Udon Virtual Machine.
You can see the assembly code, if you click on the arrow that says "Compiled Graph Assembly"

dawn gull Sep 24, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Ah. I had assumed it does since all of the documentation links point to C# code and examples

fiery yoke Sep 24, 2020, 2:04 AM

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The Udon VM basically runs ontop of C# and Unity Mono

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It is essentially C#

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but in a little sandboxed secure environment

dawn gull Sep 24, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Is there a way to convert that assembly code to C# for me to figure out what is actually happening? The way Udon Graph functions just doesn't make sense to me without being able to see what happens in code and the assembly isn't code I really understand.

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Not sure if it's actual assembly that could be decompiled

fiery yoke Sep 24, 2020, 2:10 AM

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You cannot "convert" udon assembly to C#.
But most people use Merlins C# to Udon Compiler called UdonSharp.
So when looking at something someone made in UdonSharp you have the C# code right there.

dawn gull Sep 24, 2020, 2:11 AM

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I'll try that. Thank you for the help. It's a step in the right direction

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I'm trying to get using a held object to duplicate that object, but it's not working. What am I missing here? Getting that to work will give me a much better idea of how this GUI works. I'm sure it must be something simple I'm overlooking.

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fiery yoke Sep 24, 2020, 2:23 AM

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For that to work the Pickups AutoHeld property must be set to "Yes".

dawn gull Sep 24, 2020, 2:25 AM

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That already seems to be set to yes, but it's still not working.

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I may have found the problem. I pointed the variable to the wrong object somehow. Gonna try it again.

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Huh. Still not working

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As long as I know that GUI code is correct and should be working, that's a big help in understanding it. Thank you

rough beacon Sep 24, 2020, 3:12 AM

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ok. i been having bad luck with thing but this is local right?

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rough beacon Sep 24, 2020, 4:09 AM

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it local

flint urchin Sep 24, 2020, 4:22 AM

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It will try teleport others on remote, so you should do a isLocal check on the vrcplayerapi

severe tree Sep 24, 2020, 4:36 AM

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^ that PlayerAPI output just feed that into an isLocal and use the true off of a branch to teleport them and then it'll work how you would expect it to

scarlet lake Sep 24, 2020, 6:18 AM

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should I make my hangout world in sdk2 or udon? I have absolutely no experience or understanding of udon, and I feel tutorial videos do a poor job. though, if udon is still "easier" and provides more, I would still try it. which should I choose?

flint urchin Sep 24, 2020, 6:46 AM

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Personally I would go with Uon. It's what will get the new features.

stark fiber Sep 24, 2020, 7:10 AM

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Is there a way to attach things to the player's camera, for HUD's for example?

rough beacon Sep 24, 2020, 7:13 AM

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i have no problem with teleport. everyone who try so far have 0 problem. i 100% sure it local...

sly lodge Sep 24, 2020, 8:05 AM

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Is AVPro Media Player usable in SDK3? I tried that, works in Unity editor but not in the world. Source path in Media Player points to rtspt:// URL. The setting "allow unsafe URL" in VRC is checked. Any idea?

rough beacon Sep 24, 2020, 8:14 AM

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i dont think rtspt url work. it got be www. something like youtube URL. btw, AVPro fully work in sdk3

sly lodge Sep 24, 2020, 8:47 AM

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Same scene in SDK2 works with rtspt URL well.... but thanks for your opinion.

tall vault Sep 24, 2020, 10:06 AM

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Can you define your own struct data types to use in U#?

limber garnet Sep 24, 2020, 3:26 PM

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moving this from #development-advanced because it makes more sense here https://discordapp.com/channels/189511567539306508/336764732482650112/758709024513589309

limber garnet Sep 24, 2020, 4:09 PM

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ok I have been informed No

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https://vrchat.canny.io/vrchat-udon-closed-alpha-feedback/p/player-preferences-api

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yeet

rough beacon Sep 24, 2020, 4:53 PM

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if i want make a UI button to set url text into URL Input, how do i set that up?

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floral dove Sep 24, 2020, 5:01 PM

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@rough beacon you can use an array of VRCUrl objects, and have your button trigger an UdonBehaviour to pick the next one in the array and set it on the VideoPlayer

rough beacon Sep 24, 2020, 5:01 PM

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thank you 🙂

bleak widget Sep 24, 2020, 5:33 PM

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How would I go about changing the default background color of the video player screen from the full white when no video is playing?

rough beacon Sep 24, 2020, 5:48 PM

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i may have idea for you.

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when people load in to your world. play a 1sc black screen video. after that. it be black. work around

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not sure if you can find a video like that tho 🙂

floral dove Sep 24, 2020, 5:52 PM

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@bleak widget - if you're using Material Override, you can set a texture on the target video screen material to be whatever you want. This will show first, then it will be replaced by the video when it loads.

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@scarlet lake - this channel is for people making worlds with our Udon scripting tool. You can learn about it here: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/what-is-udon

bleak widget Sep 24, 2020, 6:17 PM

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@floral dove Is this what you were saying to change?

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potent sandal Sep 24, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Is there a free alternative to AVPro? I see that there's a trial but i'm not sure if I want to go through that just to re-do the trial everytime it expires

floral dove Sep 24, 2020, 6:20 PM

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@bleak widget that's right

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@potent sandal - what do you want to accomplish? Last I used it, the trial version of AVPro just added a watermark to your videos (which will not show in VRChat, since it will use the licensed version within VRChat). Did they add an expiration?

potent sandal Sep 24, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Ohhh, I didn't know that's how the trail version worked! I was assuming it would go poof after some time

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Thank you!

bleak widget Sep 24, 2020, 6:30 PM

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@floral dove From what I can tell, the texture wont show correctly unless I change the color component to black, but if I do that then the video texture won't show when playing a video. I feel like I am just missing something obvious

floral dove Sep 24, 2020, 6:31 PM

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@bleak widget which Material Property is your Video Player targeting?

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I forgot that the default from the prefab is _EmissionMap - if that's the case, you'll want to set the Emission Texture

bleak widget Sep 24, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Yup! That was it. Just had to change the Emission Texture and it worked perfect

limber garnet Sep 24, 2020, 7:51 PM

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~~is there a way to actually instantiate a new Texture2D with udon~~ nevermind, can just override an existing texture

burnt jackal Sep 24, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Getting this any time I try to upload a map with SDK3

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I've clicked play on the scene and I saved it.

grizzled trout Sep 24, 2020, 8:17 PM

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you are using the newest world sdk3 right?

chilly crown Sep 24, 2020, 8:18 PM

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unity application is running stop it to access the control panel my unity keeps saying this when I try to upload a world then it crashes what do I do

burnt jackal Sep 24, 2020, 8:27 PM

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@grizzled trout Something was up up with a skybox pack I have. I think it came with scripts conflicting with the SDK, but I have it working.

grizzled trout Sep 24, 2020, 8:28 PM

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OOh good to know, glad you got it working

chilly crown Sep 24, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Does anyone no how to build and publish every time I try unity just closes and nothing happens

grizzled trout Sep 24, 2020, 9:08 PM

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you might not have swiched versions right, happens somtimes if i go from androied to pc build with the control panil menu

chilly crown Sep 24, 2020, 9:09 PM

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Maybe I did switch to sdk 3 recently

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Is there a way to fix it

grizzled trout Sep 24, 2020, 9:11 PM

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just go to build and make sure you are on pc

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if that dose not work try getting rid of the sdk files and reinstall it

chilly crown Sep 24, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Ok sounds good thx I’ll try that

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It says my active build target is windows64

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So I’m pretty sure it’s on pc

grizzled trout Sep 24, 2020, 9:14 PM

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yeah thats right

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then yeah seemse like you might need to purge the vr chat stuff

chilly crown Sep 24, 2020, 9:17 PM

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So do I just delete the assets in unity and re import them

grizzled trout Sep 24, 2020, 9:22 PM

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thats what i was told to do when updating

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let me chek tomake sure i tell you the right ones

chilly crown Sep 24, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Kk thx

grizzled trout Sep 24, 2020, 9:24 PM

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VRChat Examples and VRCSDK are the ones

chilly crown Sep 24, 2020, 9:25 PM

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So just delete those from unity assets and re import them

floral dove Sep 24, 2020, 9:25 PM

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as well as the Udon folder if you have that one. Make sure to delete the meta files, too. You can safely delete the contents of your Library folder as well, that's just got cached data in it.

chilly crown Sep 24, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Ok sounds good thx I’ll try it

rough beacon Sep 24, 2020, 9:32 PM

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i guess it be ask to much to add a setting that make toggle synchronized button within it toggle script file it self. i know you going recommend udon. but lot of player is not that skill like my self, a simple on/off toggle synchronized will be great.

floral dove Sep 24, 2020, 9:33 PM

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There's a working synchronized toggle in the UdonExampleScene

rough beacon Sep 24, 2020, 9:41 PM

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ya. i try and cant seem to get to work outside the toggle it self 😦

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i feel Example need go into more detail.

floral dove Sep 24, 2020, 9:46 PM

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what are you trying to do that's not working?

chilly crown Sep 24, 2020, 9:59 PM

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It wasn’t working I tried reinstalling it 3 times

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It works fine when I test it tho

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Only when I try to publish for windows it closes unity and nothing happens

floral dove Sep 24, 2020, 10:04 PM

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@chilly crown - any errors in the console?

chilly crown Sep 24, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Let me look

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I also tried just pressing play in game mode and it also crashed

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When I press play right before it crashes the console says the reference script (unknown) on this behavior is missing and the reference script on this behavior (game object ‘vrc_playervisualdamage’) is missing

limber garnet Sep 24, 2020, 10:24 PM

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so I have this piece of code which hangs the main thread for like 3 seconds which is obviously Not Good, but I can't really optimize it further due to Udon's limitations -- is there a way I could throw this on a backgroudn thread?

fiery yoke Sep 24, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Yeah thats just a warning, that comes from the VRChat devs not cleaning some of their prefabs-

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@limber garnet No, everything in Udon is running synchronously on the Main thread. Best you can do is to split operations across multiple frames (or finding a more efficient method obviously)

limber garnet Sep 24, 2020, 10:25 PM

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hmm alright

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thanks

floral dove Sep 24, 2020, 10:26 PM

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hm - I fixed that prefab before the last release, weird regression.

fiery yoke Sep 24, 2020, 10:26 PM

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There also are some missing script warnings on the AvatarPrefab and some avatar related objects btw

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Ohh also

floral dove Sep 24, 2020, 10:27 PM

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I'll take another look. I had cleaned everything up to 0 warnings on assembly reload before our last release 😦

fiery yoke Sep 24, 2020, 10:27 PM

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the "Fix Audio Source missing Spatialization" button doesnt work because it references an abstract class

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You probably changed some class names and definitions around

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so that doesnt work either anymore

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Would have filled a Canny. But I dont like that I have to login with my VRChat account on Canny :P

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And the Avatar related warnings are not in the SDK, but the client (because obviously only there avatars exist)

floral dove Sep 24, 2020, 10:30 PM

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k - we don't take bug reports here so...

fiery yoke Sep 24, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Not really bugs

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A bug is unintended behaviour in program flow.
Those are just some minor looked over issues.
But alright, Ill make some cannys

rough beacon Sep 24, 2020, 11:28 PM

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well. i got workaround for now. i try make it global next time for my video player. just have to set toggle to global. thank you for helping me. i will try later.

bleak widget Sep 25, 2020, 12:14 AM

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I tried to get 2 audio sources for one video player working. I thought this would be done the way in this picture but it only played out of one of the sources. Is this a bug or did I set it up wrong?

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rough beacon Sep 25, 2020, 1:19 AM

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I tried to get 2 audio sources for one video player working. I thought this would be done the way in this picture but it only played out of one of the sources. Is this a bug or did I set it up wrong?
@bleak widget hmm. only 1 audio max per object. try cloning audio object where sound come out

steel nova Sep 25, 2020, 1:20 AM

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does that work? ^^^

bleak widget Sep 25, 2020, 1:20 AM

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@rough beacon There were two separate game objects that the audio sources were on when I tested the first time

rough beacon Sep 25, 2020, 1:21 AM

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just like this

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bleak widget Sep 25, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Yup, that is just how I had it. Hmm..

hoary echo Sep 25, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Is there a download link to the new SDK3 beta?

rough beacon Sep 25, 2020, 1:39 AM

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https://vrchat.com/home/download

VRChat

VRChat lets you create, publish, and explore virtual worlds with other people from around the world.

hoary echo Sep 25, 2020, 1:48 AM

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I checked, that's the version I'm on, but it's missing some of the new Udon stuff that was showed off in the latest youtube channel (Triggering doors)

rough beacon Sep 25, 2020, 1:51 AM

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well, right now from that and beta. it the same file. there no new beta at this time

hoary echo Sep 25, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Good to know, thanks for the info!

rough beacon Sep 25, 2020, 1:51 AM

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your welcome

floral dove Sep 25, 2020, 2:15 AM

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@hoary echo - this SDK doesn't have trigger doors in the Example Scene, but it does have some Player Trigger examples that print your name when you walk into a blue area.

shadow hawk Sep 25, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Hi, I've been trying to learn Udon with the example scene and I've spent about six hours trying to make a mirror toggle off and on, only just managing it with a friend's help. Given that this is supposed to be the most basic level, I feel so incredibly out of my depth and I'm wondering if there are any guides around that explain things in a manner that's easier to understand. Looking at the example Udon scene, I am opening up the graphs and they don't make any sense to me at all. Is there anything that might ease me into it more easily, like a "hello world" guide, etc? It's so incredibly complex for me as I have only a small amount of experience in Unity and coding, and I haven't used a visual scripting language before. It's a little frustrating to spend so long on this to make so little progress. Thanks so much.

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So I just found this, haha. https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/udon-node-graph-upgrade
Maybe I should start there.

VRChat

Udon Node Graph

Interface The Udon Node Graph is the default interface for creation of Udon programs. This section goes over how to use it. If you want to dive right into examples, take a look at the Readme file in the VRChat Examples folder that comes with the SDK. You can open up the Udon G...

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I feel like trying to go into the examples as suggested in the "getting started" video was just way too much for me and I needed something more fundamental to begin with.

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Yeah, I get that. I was thinking of make tutorial videos to go through everything in the example scene, do you think that would be helpful?
@floral dove I am in desperate need of video tutorials, because I'm finding it incredibly, incredibly difficult to follow the readme document and understand what's going on. There's too many details to things that I don't understand because I'm a newcomer, and the one tutorial I found uses an old version of the Udon graph editor and I'm unable to follow it because the interface is significantly different.

shadow hawk Sep 25, 2020, 7:40 AM

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I'm trying basically anything I possibly can to get a sound to play when I pick up an object, but I'm not sure how to do it. I tried looking at "AudioTrigger" in VR Chat docs, but maybe that's from SDK 2 and doesn't apply to Udon. I can't find an AudioTrigger node. I'm not sure how to connect the Event_OnPickup node into a sound to play it. I'm sure it's simple if you know how, but maybe someone can guide me in the right direction? Thanks!

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severe tree Sep 25, 2020, 7:47 AM

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Just attach the Audio source to the object using an empty game object with the audio component on it with Play on Awake checked on, and then use the On Pickup to turn the gameobject on, and then when dropped to turn it back off. Just uncheck looping on the sound of course for it to play once

shadow hawk Sep 25, 2020, 7:48 AM

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Thanks! I guess that empty GameObject with the audio component on it would be a child of the pickup.

severe tree Sep 25, 2020, 7:49 AM

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That would make sure it stuck to the object. And then to get it just make sure to use a public variable using the gameobject type and then feed that into a setactive

shadow hawk Sep 25, 2020, 7:52 AM

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use the On Pickup to turn the gameobject on, and then when dropped to turn it back off
@severe tree What is the Udon command for turning a GameObject on?

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Ah, I found "Game Object Set Active"!

severe tree Sep 25, 2020, 7:52 AM

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Yeah that's it

shadow hawk Sep 25, 2020, 7:54 AM

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Does ticking this box mean make it active, and if the box is not ticked, that makes it inactive?

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severe tree Sep 25, 2020, 7:54 AM

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Correct

shadow hawk Sep 25, 2020, 7:55 AM

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Here's what I've got so far.

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severe tree Sep 25, 2020, 8:01 AM

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Yeah that's great. Now just make a new variable, game object type, and name it Audio Source or something like that.

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Then you'll want to make it public by checking the box when you dropdown the parameter

shadow hawk Sep 25, 2020, 8:14 AM

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Alright. This is what I've got now, and I'll test it.

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Omg. It works as expected. Thank you so much @severe tree!

severe tree Sep 25, 2020, 8:17 AM

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👍

shadow hawk Sep 25, 2020, 8:22 AM

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Now I'm finding that my sound is the same volume no matter what I do, but I'll try and figure out why that's happening.

frank lily Sep 25, 2020, 9:15 AM

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ok i have 2 questions, the second one is only if the first one does not work
I've made an animator for a block that essentially acts like an elevator to help me get to the top of a building, in unity it works fine but doesnt in game. How do i go about fixing that, and if it's not possible, then does anyone have any good ideas on how to get to the top of a building that doesnt involve walking up stairs for 5 minutes?

fiery yoke Sep 25, 2020, 9:16 AM

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Teleporter. Or Launchpad.

frank lily Sep 25, 2020, 9:16 AM

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fuc

frank lily Sep 25, 2020, 9:33 AM

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no way to get the elevator working then?

frank lily Sep 25, 2020, 9:51 AM

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man i dont even know what kind of program source something like that would use

fickle stirrup Sep 25, 2020, 10:23 AM

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@frank lily teleport each frame player position + 0.f of current elevator position vrcVPoorThinking

fiery yoke Sep 25, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Teleporting the player (used to) have a really negative impact on networking.

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It should not be used for Locomotion

stark adder Sep 25, 2020, 12:56 PM

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Could you theoretically use Udon Video player to play picture ? Perhaps of something like leaderboard which could update without needing to update the map ?

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I guess theoretically you could make 2 sec video of the picture and pause it after second or something idk how that would be practical ?

flint urchin Sep 25, 2020, 2:45 PM

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It is possible yes. Hopefully we’ll get a better solution to get images. And it would actually be fully doable with the URL filtering they have now.

silk briar Sep 25, 2020, 2:51 PM

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@frank lily-- I liked the way the Convention world does it-- it's an elevator and you press a button. You'll see the floors count in the elevator, but if you stick your head through the wall, you haven't moved. When you hit the desired level, it teleports you.

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It keeps the immersion while keeping the locomotion light.

prisma abyss Sep 25, 2020, 3:20 PM

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I go try program in UdonSharp, because i cannot find solution in Udon Graph, and also some codes from UdonSharp doesn't work well in Udon Graph. Kinda frustrating.

nocturne sedge Sep 25, 2020, 4:50 PM

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can someone walk me through making a simple interact teleporter before I have a stroke

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ok im just gonna go back to worlds2 and assume udon is hot garbage

nocturne sedge Sep 25, 2020, 5:26 PM

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😟

steel nova Sep 25, 2020, 5:35 PM

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okboomer

proven vessel Sep 25, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Question, The Working URL players in Udon, do they need a newer version of the SDK to work?

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I am having issues updating from 2020.04.25.12.49

trail glacier Sep 25, 2020, 5:52 PM

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that sucks

hoary echo Sep 25, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Is there any way in SDK3/Udon to, on interacting/using an object, toggle an animation controller parameter?

trail glacier Sep 25, 2020, 6:02 PM

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ok why is you pic big boy @hoary echo

hoary echo Sep 25, 2020, 6:03 PM

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That's just how I be

trail glacier Sep 25, 2020, 6:03 PM

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oml

nocturne sedge Sep 25, 2020, 6:43 PM

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is there any way to make players slide down steep slopes instead of just stand on them akwardly?

scarlet lake Sep 25, 2020, 6:53 PM

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is the onplayerjoin fixed?

floral dove Sep 25, 2020, 7:20 PM

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@nocturne sedge - here's the basics of Interact > Teleport:

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@hoary echo - sure, you can use an Interact Event to change a parameter on an Animator. Here's what it looks like to set an Integer parameter, very similar for float, string, bool, etc

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@nocturne sedge - you could use an OnPlayerTriggerEnter area to add velocity to the player in the direction of the slope

nocturne sedge Sep 25, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Its just that I noticed there is exceptional air control when walking speed is set high enough, surf could be possible if I could make frictionless surfaces

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also thank you for the teleport thing

hoary echo Sep 25, 2020, 7:54 PM

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@floral dove Thanks for the info! I'm still a bit lost with Udon, I can't find anything in the documentation on how to get that specific Animator Set Integer (Bool/string, etc..) node. I've got the latest SDK from the site, but seem to be missing some of the udon data, based on what I've seen online.

floral dove Sep 25, 2020, 7:55 PM

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@hoary echo maybe these docs will help:
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/udon-node-graph-upgrade
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/searching-for-nodes

hoary echo Sep 25, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Nada, I've opened up every node with a name that looks even remotely related, but nothing seems to do the trick

floral dove Sep 25, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Spacebar > Animator > Enter > SetInteger

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hoary echo Sep 25, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Thanks! Eventually I'll get the hang of this

floral dove Sep 25, 2020, 8:09 PM

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You're welcome! You just need to learn to search for the Class, then the Method or Property you want

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you can also use noodle-drop to avoid needing to search for your base class. Drag and Drop an animator from your hierarchy to the graph, drag out a noodle, type setinteger.

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https://i.gyazo.com/7f3b9f5b47db00bbebdb0ca2d1c15b60.gif

hoary echo Sep 25, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Thank you! Those tips are what I needed

last briar Sep 25, 2020, 10:43 PM

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soo... apparently there is now RTSP support?

floral dove Sep 25, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Yes! From the release notes: Added RTSP, RTMP, RTSPT to the allowed schemes for video player URLs

last briar Sep 25, 2020, 10:47 PM

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well, I just tried it to stream something from VLC as an RTSP stream to the test world which runs locally... didn't work :/

flint urchin Sep 25, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Got to make sure you have the un trusted URLs checked in the settings

last briar Sep 25, 2020, 10:48 PM

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what's the exact url which is needed? rtsp://domain.tld:port/ for example?

flint urchin Sep 25, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Just what VLC gives you should be fine

last briar Sep 25, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Got to make sure you have the un trusted URLs checked in the settings
@flint urchin I did enable that, and I can add video files from my own webserver, that works

flint urchin Sep 25, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Check the log and see what it says when you try play it

last briar Sep 25, 2020, 10:50 PM

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btw. which video does support it? (i tried both, the unity prefab one and the AVPro one)

flint urchin Sep 25, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Avpro

floral dove Sep 25, 2020, 10:54 PM

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the Unity player only supports direct mp4 and webms, really. AVPro handles everything else

last briar Sep 25, 2020, 10:55 PM

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aight, I'll test it and take a look at the log

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I guess I found the culprit

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https://paste.cerny.li/2JM/

stdin

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why does it try to use youtube-dl.exe?

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for me that looks like a bug, because it doesn't recognize rtsp:// correctly

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so... just one question: I know you guys are a small dev-team and all... but did you actually test those protocols and verified it? Or did you just added AVPro and because it has support for those streaming protocols, announced that the new video players now also have that feature support?
That's not meant in a bad way, I'm just curious if you actually tested those and if there is someone who can verify that it actually works :/

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because if it doesn't recognize rtsp:// as a protocol, that looks like it wasn't tested once.

As I said, I don't mean that in a bad way, it's more constructive criticism.

vivid prism Sep 26, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Is there a built-in way to detect if a player is using VR, or is that something we have to do ourselves?

floral dove Sep 26, 2020, 12:09 AM

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@vivid prism

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@last briar - I'm looking into the RTSP issue to see if I can get a stream working on my end

vivid prism Sep 26, 2020, 12:09 AM

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thanks!

last briar Sep 26, 2020, 12:14 AM

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@last briar - I'm looking into the RTSP issue to see if I can get a stream working on my end
@floral dove well, I found the problem more or less my self, you guys just handover the url to youtube-dl, which doesn't recognize the url (one of the test URL used: rtsp://wowzaec2demo.streamlock.net/vod/mp4:BigBuckBunny_115k.mov)
I don't know how the internals inside the udon player works (didn't looked in to it right now), but you probably need to handover the url directly to the AVPro player, instead of passing it to youtube-dl, if the url for example has rtsp://, rtmp://, rtspt:// as a protocol. The last part is just a guess...

floral dove Sep 26, 2020, 12:29 AM

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@last briar that sounds right - I've logged the bug on Canny so you can get an update on the issue as it progresses: https://feedback.vrchat.com/vrchat-udon-closed-alpha-bugs/p/bypass-youtube-dl-for-rtsp-links

last briar Sep 26, 2020, 12:30 AM

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ah, nice :D

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thanks for the heads up (:

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oh, and just a sidenote: you may want to update youtube-dl more regularly, those guys update it all the time to keep up with all the sites they support, (the shipped version of vrchat is two months behind)

floral dove Sep 26, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Yeah, we keep an eye on its updates and only do it if there's a breaking change or addition of a big feature

last briar Sep 26, 2020, 12:34 AM

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good to hear, because it's kinda a vital part of videoplayers and people are complaining a lot that those break (I guess mostly because of an outdated version of youtube-dl)

lilac hatch Sep 26, 2020, 12:40 AM

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^ I backup that, a lot of time asking people to manually update the youtubedl fix their issues

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Tho i havent heard about issues since I updated my world to udon

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God bless

rough beacon Sep 26, 2020, 3:52 AM

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it seem like update may have fix global toggle for video player. so i think i going test it out fully!

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funny part i was thinking i was doing it wrong 🙂 i did post for easier way. LOL

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well. still not working with toggle for some odd reason. Maybe ui Toggle is wrong. in photo. i did add button it self.

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1min. i over look something

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after fix this, master see it right as other player see it flashy weird.
this is other

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this is master

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this may not be working right

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fiery yoke Sep 26, 2020, 5:50 AM

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You could name it something like KEY_1 and then check that name

deep hollow Sep 26, 2020, 5:51 AM

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I have a question guys I'm having an issue when trying to update my world, it doesn't seem to find the blueprint anymore I tried re-adding it back again manually but still doesn't find it. And when I try to upload it as a new world it does compile and go into play mode before upload but when I click upload it doesn't do anything

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wise charm Sep 26, 2020, 8:29 AM

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Does anyone have any idea on how to choose a random player in an instance (like in Murder 2)? Because... my current method of doing this is very... inefficient to say the least, and it probably doesn't even work properly.

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fiery yoke Sep 26, 2020, 8:31 AM

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Jesus christ.
The highest difficulty in this is that everyone needs to "agree" on one person. So the best way is to let the master randomly decide and then sync the playerID via a synced variable. To do that you would get an array of all players (using VRCPlayerApi.GetAllPlayers) then getting a random index between 0 and GetPlayerCount. Then getting the players playerid and setting that to the synced variable.

wise charm Sep 26, 2020, 8:36 AM

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thanks helpful person, very cool

agile oasis Sep 26, 2020, 8:50 AM

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oof lord have mercy on me. im still attempting to figure out how to do a pick up and use animator trigger. and ive already tried so many different ways but keep failing. anyone got any ideas as to how to make one that auto triggers the animator when the hold object is used? cuz im struggling.

stark adder Sep 26, 2020, 10:58 AM

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What would probably have smaller performance impact ? I have about 20-30 objects and using script i go through all of them and enable some of them and disable some of them.

Try to Enable or Disable them no matter what their current state is.. Soo Enabling already enabled object..
Using if (object.active != newstate) checking if it is the same state or not and then switching it.. ?

severe tree Sep 26, 2020, 11:27 AM

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If you go through all of them at the "same time" then I imagine that trying to enable/disable them would hurt more than checking, but I think that the difference it makes is so small it'd be negligible. Only way to find out for sure is to test both ways as Momo says lmao

stark adder Sep 26, 2020, 11:27 AM

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😄 i guess yea

fallen prawn Sep 26, 2020, 2:40 PM

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@fallen prawn you can have the volume changes trigger an UdonBehaviour which sets the volume.
@floral dove
I tried

VideoPlayerComponent.gameObject.GetComponent<AudioSource>().volume = VolumeSlider.value;
VideoPlayerComponent.gameObject.GetComponent<AudioSource>().mute = MuteToggle.isOn;

but still cannot set the volume.

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Also on AVPro video ratio become stretch and I can't find the way to adjust the fitting.

scarlet lake Sep 26, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Which version of Unity is compatible with SDK3 worlds?

native estuary Sep 26, 2020, 5:05 PM

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2018.4.20f1 same as with SDK2

scarlet lake Sep 26, 2020, 5:06 PM

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They made a whole new node language..... and they kept it in 2018.

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At this point I almost think it would be more optimized to make a world in Neos Vr

native estuary Sep 26, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Sure vrcLaughing

sour wind Sep 26, 2020, 5:23 PM

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How would I sync instantiate? I have a button that spawns a prefab but it doesn't sync between clients.

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@scarlet lake Its just c#? You can use Udon Sharp if you want to type it out. Just know a lot of methods are unavailable.

floral dove Sep 26, 2020, 5:31 PM

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@sour wind Synced Instantiation is not yet available, you can instead make a pool of objects and sync those.

sour wind Sep 26, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Dang! Alright thank you 😄

floral dove Sep 26, 2020, 5:33 PM

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@scarlet lake we've got to keep the SDK on the same version that the client uses. Actually, when we started with Udon we were still on 2017 and upgraded everything mid-development.

scarlet lake Sep 26, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Any plans to update to the 2020 update @floral dove ?

pulsar cove Sep 26, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Seems I posted in the wrong channel, but seems RTMP is bugged too

native estuary Sep 26, 2020, 5:51 PM

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I should have also mentioned it's a known issue
https://feedback.vrchat.com/vrchat-udon-closed-alpha-bugs/p/bypass-youtube-dl-for-rtsp-links

pulsar cove Sep 26, 2020, 5:51 PM

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For RTMP, AVPro doesn't directly support it but I believe YT-DL does

floral dove Sep 26, 2020, 6:04 PM

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@scarlet lake yes, but no timeline on it. It’s a huge undertaking without a ton of benefit to users and creators and we’ve got some big things cooking right now.

rough beacon Sep 26, 2020, 7:06 PM

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is there way toggle global video player without breaking them. i use prebuild toggle and it didn't play nice with video.

wise charm Sep 26, 2020, 8:53 PM

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@fiery yoke would this work?

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rough beacon Sep 26, 2020, 9:19 PM

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is there way i can input text to URL on video with just a click?

unique bolt Sep 26, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Hey Ya'll, any ideas on this? Every time I try to Build and Test a VRChat world it gives me an error that says "a VRCSceneDescriptor or VRCAvatarDescriptor is required to build a VRC SDK Content"- and then a windows link opens that says "You'll need a new app to open this VRchat Link" with the "Look for an app in the microsoft store" option. I get this error even when I load the UdonExampleScene and try to build that.

sour wind Sep 26, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Did you put a vrcworld into your scene?

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@unique bolt

unique bolt Sep 26, 2020, 10:29 PM

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@sour wind Thanks but I JUST fixed figured it out!

sour wind Sep 26, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Ay!

unique bolt Sep 26, 2020, 10:30 PM

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It was actually that Unity couldn't find me VRChat.exe

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It still shows that error briefly but then it loads up

sour wind Sep 26, 2020, 10:30 PM

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okay, glad it works 👍

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hmm, what errors?

unique bolt Sep 26, 2020, 10:33 PM

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a VRCSceneDescriptor or VRCAvatarDescriptor is required to build a VRC SDK Content

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it says it briefly but then opens fine so who knows

dawn gull Sep 27, 2020, 12:59 AM

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I'm creating a setup to delete a d20 from the world and replace it with a new one in a particular location. Here's what I have so far. I'm not sure how to set the instantiate location and the delete/respawn only works once. Any idea how to fix those two issues?

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paper wraith Sep 27, 2020, 1:03 AM

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You're probably deleting the prefab that's originally making it

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Try to set the position/rotation on the output GameObject of the Instantiate parameter, save it in a variable, and destroy that instead?

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and keep the prefab d20 somewhere stashed away?

dawn gull Sep 27, 2020, 1:04 AM

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I think I know what you mean by that. I'll try

paper wraith Sep 27, 2020, 1:05 AM

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I haven't worked with Udon or visual scripting yet, so take it with a grain of salt - but that's what I'd do in Unity

errant pilot Sep 27, 2020, 1:07 AM

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You could set the position of the dice to the location on where you want it to go instead of using instantiate. Or hide that dice and show another one, since Instantiate is local only, no other players will see it.... For now....

cunning mist Sep 27, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Is there any particular reason that you're spawning a new die instead of just resetting the position?

dawn gull Sep 27, 2020, 1:09 AM

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I guess I just hadn't actually thought about simply resetting the position. Such a simple solution I can't believe it didn't occur to me. That gave me a good laugh. Thank you!

cunning mist Sep 27, 2020, 1:10 AM

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No worries!
My cheat for this is to just teleport the object to -9999 on the Y. That way, VRChat's auto-reset happens since you're probably below the respawn position.

dawn gull Sep 27, 2020, 1:13 AM

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I guess I also don't know how to set the location of the object in the Udon Graph. What node would I use for that? I'm really new to Udon and GUI coding makes much less sense to me than C#. Having a bit of a difficult learning curve

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Nevermind. I think I figured it out. It's the transform node as far as I can tell

sour wind Sep 27, 2020, 1:21 AM

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@nocturne sedge #avatar-help might be a better place to ask :3

nocturne sedge Sep 27, 2020, 1:21 AM

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unless this only happens with test avatars

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wait wtf I selected that and it brought me here

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so sorry

sour wind Sep 27, 2020, 1:21 AM

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all good 😄

nocturne sedge Sep 27, 2020, 1:21 AM

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my discord freaks out a lot

dawn gull Sep 27, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Okay, one more question. My apologies for asking such a simple question, but I'm definitely changing the position of the d20 game object incorrectly. The button is moving instead. What should this look like to make the d20 move instead? The Block is there for when I add the other dice.

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Okay, I'm an idiot tonight. I figured it out. Thank you all for the help

deft elm Sep 27, 2020, 2:09 AM

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So, I'm absolutely new to making worlds, and I'd like to add some movement, like wall-climbing and wall-running, and I'm not sure how I'd do it. I guess my question is, where should I start?

deft elm Sep 27, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Also, I can't open more than one udon script, how do I do that?

trail hazel Sep 27, 2020, 5:37 AM

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do videoplayers actually work in udon on stable now? they were disabled for the longest time

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the OnVideoError change and USharpVideo is making me think they work now but i'm not certain if it's on stable or just beta

fiery yoke Sep 27, 2020, 5:38 AM

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Video Players are in the live version of VRChat and do work.

trail hazel Sep 27, 2020, 5:39 AM

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in SDK3W worlds with udon?

fiery yoke Sep 27, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Yes

trail hazel Sep 27, 2020, 5:39 AM

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cool. do you happen to know when this became the case (because i never saw any kind of announcement on it or anything, i just thought they were still disabled)

fiery yoke Sep 27, 2020, 5:40 AM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/189511567539306508/336764577301659649/756594436539940904

trail hazel Sep 27, 2020, 5:40 AM

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nevermind evidently i'm just blind

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thanks

sinful bluff Sep 27, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Now the big question.... is Quest support on the new players?

fiery yoke Sep 27, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Technically yes. But the Quest can only handle certain Codecs

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And only direct links

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so no youtube or anything that isnt a direct link to an mp4 or other supported formats

tall bison Sep 27, 2020, 8:45 AM

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Hello, everyone!
I'm experiencing a strange problem. When I add an event to for loop, it compiles just alright (first picture). But when I try to add another event, be it directly or via other nodes (as shown in pic 2), I get an error Failed to refresh program 'MirrorToggle' due to exception 'System.ArgumentException: An item with the same key has already been added. Key: (a8931655-0ac2-4a6d-885c-1762f7f6bc70, index, -1, True), and the program doesn't update, so the new event is not processed.
Of what I tried, it happens only to for loops so far.
Has anyone encountered this issue?
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tall bison Sep 27, 2020, 10:10 AM

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Trying to circumvent it with a While loop. It doesn't seem to have this problem

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But now I'm having another problem. Op Less Than is giving True when both variables are equal

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Although, no. It evaluates correctly. It seeems that the problem is with While loop. It does not reevaluate the condition on every iteration

lilac hatch Sep 27, 2020, 11:27 AM

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Do quest support hvec 264 ? :o

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If yes i might have to make the world quest compatible

stark adder Sep 27, 2020, 12:06 PM

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After i put in Udon script i cannot change it for some reason.. I have to remove/reset the component and add it.. Any idea why ?

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Its just locked and cant do do anything

fiery yoke Sep 27, 2020, 12:13 PM

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@stark adder That is intentional within U#. Switching out the program source with UdonSharp stuff can lead to unintended behaviour.

stark adder Sep 27, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Weird it worked like 3 days ago soo it got changed in some last updates i am guessing ? ..

tall bison Sep 27, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Using UdonSharp fixed my problem though. Guess I'll stick to it from now on

sinful bluff Sep 27, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Ok, USharpVideo... is it Quest compatible?

dark tiger Sep 27, 2020, 6:43 PM

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In terms of performance, is it better to have this information saved like this in (public) variables? or...

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...get them from the Game Object variable?

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Or maybe it doesn't matter 😅

potent sandal Sep 27, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Hi, regarding UDON. Is there a way to shrink the collider's of players in the world?
I've been having to make a workaround by no-colliding the top of doorways but I'm wondering if there's an actual way to change player size

flat musk Sep 27, 2020, 11:38 PM

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hey where is the pin for the manual reset of cache if the test and build keeps outputting the prior build?

dawn gull Sep 28, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Can anyone tell me why this isn't compiling? I'm trying to copy the reflection settings in the Reflect Layers property from VRCMirrorHQ to VRCMirror.

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flint urchin Sep 28, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Vrcmirror isn’t fully supported yet afaik

dawn gull Sep 28, 2020, 1:41 AM

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Ah. That's unfortunate. Any recommendations for how to switch mirror modes between HQ, LQ, and off? I'm guessing I'll just have to teleport alternate mirrors around then

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Love the GIR, btw ^_^

flint urchin Sep 28, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Having multiple or moving them around is the only option atm yeah

dawn gull Sep 28, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Here's hoping that gets added soon. Thank you =^_^=

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Having a pain migrating one of my worlds to SDK3. I fully wiped the scene of everything VRChat, and then deleted both VRCSDK and The VRChat examples folder from the project, before importing SDK3.

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For some reason on import, SDK3 is complaining that something doesnt exist in SDK2 namespace

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as far as I can tell there is no remnant of SDK2 in the project but SDK3 seems to be finding something

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I've tried clean wiping VRC stuff and reinstalling 3 times now.

oak trail Sep 28, 2020, 1:50 AM

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You can't import SDK3 into an SDK2 project. You have to make a new project.

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 1:50 AM

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So whatever SDK2 changes, permenantly breaks your project?

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that seems crazy

oak trail Sep 28, 2020, 1:51 AM

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No, they aren't compatible with each other, if you have both in the same project it will break everything.

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Im not having both in one project

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Thats why he tried to delete the other stuff. And you can do that

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but its a little complex

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 1:51 AM

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I made a copy of my project, deleted all SDK2 stuff. And imported SDK3

oak trail Sep 28, 2020, 1:51 AM

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There must still be something from SDK2 left behind according to those errors.

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 1:52 AM

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yeah I can tell, but I'm not sure where or why it's looking in an SDK2 namespace

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Unity stores some other stuff to reference assemblies and scripts outside of just the library. I know how to remove them, but I cant remember right now xD

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 1:52 AM

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I did just find a Scripting Define Symbol for VRC_SDK_VRCSDK2

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Ahh yeah

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thats it

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 1:54 AM

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heck yeah that single removal fixed it

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Thanks for getting me to keep looking instead of giving up that it wasnt possible

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 1:55 AM

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VRChat could probably include an "Uninstall SDK" button or something along those lines. Or at least give some instructions of how to remove an SDK.

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 1:55 AM

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they really should.

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Even for normal small updates that'd be nice

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Maybe these two options:

Prepare for update (remove vrcsdk, but keep references in scene)
Clean Uninstall (remove all references to VRCSDK completely. DANGEROUS!)

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 2:17 AM

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New question, does it make sense to have a master script that controls all my button's actions? or is it better to have a script per-button?

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Ideally I could have one interact event per button?

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 2:18 AM

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That depends. The overhead per UdonBehaviour seems to be relatively low

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Some things like Interact you have to have per-object ofcourse

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 2:18 AM

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so there's no way to have one script handle inputs on multiple buttons?

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Not for VRChat defined things like Interact now

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 2:19 AM

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dang

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I guess I could use UI events for it, but I have pretty 3d models for the buttons >_<

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 2:20 AM

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You can ofcourse redirect all of you Interacts to one Behaviour. But that still means that you need a behaviour per interactable object

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 2:20 AM

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dang

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is that pretty much how people usually handle having multiple buttons for one "action" ?

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like a volume up and down button

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Volume is a bad example since its usually handled with Sliders

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And if youre talking about UI Buttons then thats a completely different story

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 2:21 AM

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well I'd rather avoid UI buttons

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thats just the only way I see this going without being able to use one script with multiple interacts

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(if I want to avoid a script per button)

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Its really not that bad

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not great, but not terrible either

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 2:23 AM

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I know I just have a lot of buttons I wanted to have one master "brain" script for my cinema that had all the functions

obsidian sinew Sep 28, 2020, 2:23 AM

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This question probably has been asked before, however when you make toggle buttons in Udon, are they local or global?

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 2:24 AM

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@warm goblet You can still redirect all of the inputs to one Behaviour.
You just need multiple behaviours. But that doesnt mean that you cant control everything from one behaviour.

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 2:24 AM

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ah gotcha

flint urchin Sep 28, 2020, 2:26 AM

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@obsidian sinew everything is local by default

obsidian sinew Sep 28, 2020, 2:27 AM

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Ah, thanks!

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 2:49 AM

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How do I reference a function on another object's udon behavior?

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*using UdonSharp

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 2:49 AM

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If its an UdonSharp you can just reference the "class" name and then the method like you would with normal c#

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 2:50 AM

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ok, so something like

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on the reveiver

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and on the button,

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(both are in the same namespace)

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 2:51 AM

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I dont understand what youre trying to achieve there.

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 2:51 AM

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only, of course that should be in on interact

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Push a button, so on interact, and that runs LightsOff() from the other script

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 2:52 AM

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Well first of all this channel here is more meant for normal Udon Graph and general Udon related questions. Not specific UdonSharp questions. You should probably ask in Merlins server for help with that.

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 2:52 AM

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alrighty, thanks!

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 2:53 AM

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At least as long as UdonSharp isnt officially supported by VRChat

flint urchin Sep 28, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Also, don’t name your class names and methods the same

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 2:54 AM

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yeah I just realized I did that >_<

lilac hatch Sep 28, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Class.function(args);

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Also, i'm unsure of why you're running with two class for a light switch .-.

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 3:07 AM

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now i just need find away to input text into input URL for video player. or i just end up with lot of video player that dont need to be there

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any idea?

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 3:09 AM

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You can just have a public array of VRCUrl's and edit them in the inspector.

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 3:10 AM

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not to clear on that 😦

lilac hatch Sep 28, 2020, 3:20 AM

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Have a public vrcurl variable

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And you edit it on each buttons playing a specific video

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 3:21 AM

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You cant really do that

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VRCUrls are essentially "protected" strings.

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You cant construct them at runtime which is the security behind them

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You can however have an array of predefined Urls and then set one variable to be one of the elements from the array.

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But you cant just "edit" it

lilac hatch Sep 28, 2020, 3:25 AM

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I meant to say, edit the array/the variable value in the inspector yup

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Ahh I see what you mean

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Yeah thats another way to do that

lilac hatch Sep 28, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Also, since we can't use comparetag I was asking myself (always have questions when i'm in bed kekw)

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Can we copy and then paste gameobjects somewhere else using udon ?

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 3:28 AM

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Copy and paste?
You can instantiate GameObjects via a template if you mean that.

lilac hatch Sep 28, 2020, 3:28 AM

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More of

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I got 1000 differents gameobjects in my world currently

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Made a simple array searcher

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But i'm now stuck at "how would i display the result"

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 3:29 AM

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No idea what youre talking about

lilac hatch Sep 28, 2020, 3:30 AM

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I'm trying to make a search option in an UI.

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Since comparetag and lists are not usable, it's kinda awkward to do

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Search option for what?

lilac hatch Sep 28, 2020, 3:33 AM

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Gameobjects that I already have displayed in another UI.

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Tbf, movies.

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 3:34 AM

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Alright, no idea what youre trying to do.
But as a replacement for tags, most people just put the "tags" in the name of the GameObject and then use gameObject.name.Contains()

lilac hatch Sep 28, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Yup, I got the searching working atm

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I'm just wondering if I could duplicate the results into another UI, never really bothered with that yet

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Meh, might have found a more simple way to do what I want to do actually

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I should stop over thinking everything

hard wraith Sep 28, 2020, 3:42 AM

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this doesnt seem to be working or does this break an object being able to to be interacted with thats set to teleport someone?

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 4:25 AM

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No. Those are input fields. VRCUrl is its own type

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It is essentially just a string. With some protection around it.

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 4:27 AM

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ok. can i get photo of what you talking about. at this point. i just lost

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this than?

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fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 4:32 AM

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A public. Array. Of "VRCUrl"s. Exactly as I said.

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rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 4:36 AM

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no wonder i am lost. you using udonsharp -.-

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Its very similar in the graph

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Better?

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rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 4:39 AM

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ok. thank you

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 6:10 AM

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I'm having an issue with the UdonSyncPlayer(Unity) prefab. For some reason when I point it to Surround sound audio sources the same way I did in SDK2, its only sending the full mix to the back right audio.

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This is a surround video file with 6 separate audio tracks.

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worldly plank Sep 28, 2020, 8:07 AM

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Hi everyone, got a noob question.
How would an udon graph look like, that toggles a certain component of a scene object.
I managed it with the object itself

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 8:08 AM

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Most components have an "enabled" property that you can just set to true or false

worldly plank Sep 28, 2020, 9:51 AM

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The component is itself a script.
Does that change anything? Because it doesn't seem to work

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 9:52 AM

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All components are inherently "scripts". Some components just have a fancy icon and the scripts are built into unity.
What component are you talking about?

worldly plank Sep 28, 2020, 9:58 AM

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Touché :D
I downloaded a "floater" script and simply attached it to a cube.
I just want to have a "toggle" here, which is triggered by a button.
In the Udon graph I don't really find my way around yet and with a C# script I get the error "error CS1061: Are you missing an assembly reference?" if I want to set X.enable to "true".

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fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 10:02 AM

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Well first of all: The whole point of Udon is so you can make some custom logic, within a secure sandbox. If everyone could just run any kind of script in a VRChat world...then that would be disastrous.
You would have to convert your script (if possible) into Udon

worldly plank Sep 28, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Ah ok, I didn't think of it that way.
Should be possible. Thank you!

patent lynx Sep 28, 2020, 11:38 AM

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how to make player list... i first time udon...

verbal socket Sep 28, 2020, 11:39 AM

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is there a way for a video player to show what a camera is seeing ?

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in a world

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i kinda want to make a thing that you can see where people are in the world through that

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 11:40 AM

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You dont need a video player for that

verbal socket Sep 28, 2020, 11:40 AM

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i got the camera in place now

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 11:40 AM

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What you are looking for is simply called a Render Texture

verbal socket Sep 28, 2020, 11:40 AM

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whats next

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 11:40 AM

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You can assign a render texture to a camera. The camera will then render to that texture instead of the screen.

severe tree Sep 28, 2020, 11:41 AM

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^ Use it as the diffuse on a material tossed onto a plane and basic CCTV screen lmao

verbal socket Sep 28, 2020, 11:42 AM

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is there a video showing this or ?

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i have no idea where to find stuff like this

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 11:43 AM

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Thats just standard Unity Game Development stuff

verbal socket Sep 28, 2020, 11:43 AM

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i have 0 clue xD

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i never done that much in unity for games i've only been using it for uploading avatars

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and a world i have kept on updating

fiery yoke Sep 28, 2020, 11:44 AM

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Well there is plenty of videos on Render Textures in Unity

verbal socket Sep 28, 2020, 11:49 AM

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i got it i think :D

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testing now

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yes got it :D

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Does VRCUnityVideoPlayer not support multiple audio tracks like it did in SDK2 ?

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I see the dropdown for Target Audio Sources, but setting up my surround audio sources in there still results in only the first being used.

copper ocean Sep 28, 2020, 4:56 PM

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^ Following this. Also curious

sour wind Sep 28, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Is there support for arrays yet?

floral dove Sep 28, 2020, 6:00 PM

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@sour wind - you can use arrays for many types, the ability to sync arrays is in development.

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 6:19 PM

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i miss good old day where i didnt need to learn udon. oh well. 1 day i get arrays to work out

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Does VRCUnityVideoPlayer not support multiple audio tracks like it did in SDK2 ?
@warm goblet just clone audio with same link.

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edgy ingot Sep 28, 2020, 6:37 PM

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not sure what I did but I think I broke the AVPro video player, it has no audio in game
also I can't get public variables to work across udon scripts (im trying to get data from the video player with minimal changes to the script

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 6:40 PM

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omg. support not very helpful. so all this time. i dont need array. to set up my button to input url to video player

sour wind Sep 28, 2020, 6:41 PM

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@edgy ingot Are you doing a public void?

edgy ingot Sep 28, 2020, 6:42 PM

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im using udon graph not U# if that matters, so I'm not entirely sure

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 6:42 PM

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2 day waste on try pull my hair out try get rarray to work -.-

sour wind Sep 28, 2020, 6:44 PM

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@edgy ingot what information are you trying to get?

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 6:45 PM

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not sure what I did but I think I broke the AVPro video player, it has no audio in game
also I can't get public variables to work across udon scripts (im trying to get data from the video player with minimal changes to the script
@edgy ingot you can re-import new UndoSyncPlayer. i broken it before try get arrar to work

edgy ingot Sep 28, 2020, 6:46 PM

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im trying to change the values on an animator and get spectral data and maybe volume later on @sour wind

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@rough beacon I already tried reimporting it (the script and the prefab)

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 6:48 PM

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what you can do. open a 2sc new udon file. drag it and drop it into old one that you working on

sour wind Sep 28, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Access the animator component and then you will be able to change the values you need.

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 6:48 PM

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make sure you delete broken one

edgy ingot Sep 28, 2020, 6:49 PM

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i have the value changing stuff and spectral data stuff already working, it's just unable to get any booleans to transfer over @sour wind

sour wind Sep 28, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Are you getting two scripts to communicate with each other?

edgy ingot Sep 28, 2020, 6:50 PM

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that's what im trying to do, if that's not possible I can probably just make a copy of the SyncAudioPlayer and put my extra bits in it

sour wind Sep 28, 2020, 6:51 PM

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You could try that. Might work

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It should be possible though.

edgy ingot Sep 28, 2020, 6:57 PM

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only thing I can think of is these

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but i checked, I don't use visual damage

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and nothing else HAS a script on it

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 7:05 PM

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that's what im trying to do, if that's not possible I can probably just make a copy of the SyncAudioPlayer and put my extra bits in it
@edgy ingot i dont think you can edit udon video player it self. it protected.

edgy ingot Sep 28, 2020, 7:05 PM

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the udon script isn't but the script script (C#) is in a .dll from the sdk

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 7:07 PM

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that was werid. i didnt boot into my test room i got popup ask screen size ect

edgy ingot Sep 28, 2020, 7:07 PM

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if you hold shift while launching the game it does that

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default unity options menu or something like that

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 7:08 PM

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i see 🙂

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 7:09 PM

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https://vrchat.canny.io/sdk-bug-reports/p/vrcunityvideoplayer-doesnt-correctly-pass-audiosource-settings-to-the-runtime-vi

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 7:10 PM

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like i say. you dont really need to do that.

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edgy ingot Sep 28, 2020, 7:11 PM

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im just a little confused cuz i JUST had it working

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Audio it self have a build in link to your video player

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Thats only for AVPro though

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I'm talking about the Unity component

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Plus doesnt AVPro only work with a single audio track with 1 or two channels? no more?

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@rough beacon I may be wrong, but I really dont use AVPro often because playlists with it are a pain

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but I'm coming from SDK2 so maybe things are different.

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 7:19 PM

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oh, this group is for sdk3.

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 7:19 PM

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I know, I'm just saying these are things I learned in SDK2

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I'm using SDK3 though.

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 7:20 PM

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SDK2 video setup will not work in SDK3

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 7:20 PM

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So if you use a file with 6 separate audio tracks, AVPro can put each of those to its own speaker script?

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yes... I know

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 7:20 PM

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but what i show you do the very same thing

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you can do that with unity player too

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 7:21 PM

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But each of those can only choose mono left or mono right? I dont see how that accesses other tracks in the video

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 7:21 PM

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no. there mix too

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 7:22 PM

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ok, but still only stereo. Stille only selecting single channels or both channels from a single track

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 7:22 PM

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well. you can always ask to make sound 5.1 support

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not sure that will happen tho 🙂

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 7:23 PM

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They always supported it in SDK2, so I'm sure they will in SDK3 eventually

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My bug report is about the fact that they currently already appear to support it, but the feature for it doesnt actually change anything.

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 7:23 PM

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well, SDK3 is still very neww. they say they still building video player. who knoww, maybe it come later

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 7:24 PM

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"Target Audio Sources" allows more than one audio source to be added. So I'd expect more than the first to actually effect the runtime VideoComponent it adds. But if you check my post, the pictures, I show what it actually does with those entries, which is exactly nothing.

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It only uses the first entry

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So to me it sounds more like a bug, than a non-implemented feature

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 7:25 PM

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if you like. you can test out my world. it got very good sound set up. if you like it. pm me and ask how i set it up

warm goblet Sep 28, 2020, 7:39 PM

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I may use your dual-stereo setup for now until they get multitrack working again, nice world!

rough beacon Sep 28, 2020, 7:45 PM

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thank 🙂

edgy ingot Sep 28, 2020, 7:49 PM

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yeah AVPro straight broke

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not sure what to do, if yall got ideas, neat
if not im takin a break lol

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stop button doesnt work

dark tiger Sep 28, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Shouldn't there also be an Integer Set Value node for the sliders?

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I am using integer values on the slider, but it seems that I am not able to change them from code

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floral dove Sep 28, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Sliders only accept floats. It's just a UI convenience that locks them to Ints

dark tiger Sep 28, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Oh, interesting. Thanks :)

silk briar Sep 29, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Is this also the best place to ask general SDK3 / world building questions? Or just Udon?

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Gotcha-- I was just having an issue where the "Force Non-VR" setting doesn't seem to be working for world tests. I saw some stuff for SDK2, but didn't find anything for SDK3.

fiery yoke Sep 29, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Set the path to your VRChat install directly to the Steam path

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By default it uses a bat file that does not have the --no-vr parameter set

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so it ignores it

silk briar Sep 29, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Aha-- trying that now.

fiery yoke Sep 29, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Because whoever programmed that was apperantly not aware. Or something. I dont know why or what went wrong there. And why it has not been fixed. But thats how it is.

silk briar Sep 29, 2020, 2:19 AM

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That did the trick; much thanks @fiery yoke.

floral dove Sep 29, 2020, 2:49 AM

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@fiery yoke FYI the issue with the default path being incorrect has been fixed, but only for new installs of VRChat.

fiery yoke Sep 29, 2020, 2:49 AM

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for new installs of VRChat?

floral dove Sep 29, 2020, 2:49 AM

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yes

fiery yoke Sep 29, 2020, 2:49 AM

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So people that have VRChat installed before this fix will still encounter that issue right?

floral dove Sep 29, 2020, 2:49 AM

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that's right. I think the fix went in two releases ago.

fiery yoke Sep 29, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Hmm alright

floral dove Sep 29, 2020, 2:50 AM

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so it will someday be a thing of the past

fiery yoke Sep 29, 2020, 2:50 AM

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So I assume there is no way to fix it retrospectively?

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(besides reinstalling)

floral dove Sep 29, 2020, 2:54 AM

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The most straightforward way is to edit your registry: Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\VRChat needs to be set to the directory where your VRChat.exe lives, like this

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you can also re-run the install.exe program that sits alongside VRChat, but if you've ever checked "Don't show again", it won't work correctly until you delete its prefs in C:\Users\Username\AppData\Local\install

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Once your registry key is set up correctly, then the 'Reset to Default' button in the VRChat Control Panel will set your path to this value. For first-time installers, it will start at that correct value and they'll never have to know about any of this nonsense.

fiery yoke Sep 29, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Yeah one should never touch regedit unless they know what they're doing 😅

floral dove Sep 29, 2020, 2:58 AM

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The issue with the flags is caused by VRChat defaulting to vrchat:// style URL-handling, which still needs to be fixed re:flags

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yes, agreed

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The install.exe basically just sets up a bunch of registry keys

fiery yoke Sep 29, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Also being able to set your own start params in the SDK or somewhere in the options (doesnt need to be manually typing in the string, but just have some checkbox bools)
Would be sweet. So you can define which profile you want to start, or if you want to have udon debug logs or not

edgy moss Sep 29, 2020, 5:13 AM

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hello! how do I change a Respawn Point, once they have already entered the world? I created an animation to simply move the spawn point empty, but they still spawn where it originally was, even though it has moved

fair bough Sep 29, 2020, 7:03 AM

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how to make player walk on wall?
I try use station mobility but can't move (i check out option seated)
when i put rigid on station it violent shake when sit

fiery yoke Sep 29, 2020, 7:34 AM

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Its theoretically possible but only with some black witchery

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For single player that would work maybe :P

fair bough Sep 29, 2020, 7:39 AM

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🐿️

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i just see this world can walk on loop line.... and i just want do this for puzzle my world
https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_fbb65a01-6f43-4d0c-b818-048a43591966

ANTI-GRAVITY SATELLITE by lunar eclipse

2020-08-15 v1․00 Release‚ v1․01 BugFix

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and i see CyanLazer can make it....

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Apologize, if i misunderstand something

chilly aspen Sep 29, 2020, 11:37 AM

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Can anyone see if I'm doing something wrong here? When I have these functions in my code, the master player sees flipBool and flipInt updated correctly. However, all other players only have the flipInt working correctly.

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Image:

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Oh, I just realized that somehow non-master players are calling the same function twice.

fiery yoke Sep 29, 2020, 12:05 PM

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OnDeserialization is called whenever the client has received and deserialized network data

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It does not matter what kind of data

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As long as its deserialized by that PhotonView on the UdonBehaviour

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So you most certainly dont want to do what youre doing in OnDeserialization (nor OnPreSerialization)

chilly aspen Sep 29, 2020, 12:22 PM

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Yeah, I think found the bug. Somehow players are able to call the OnPreSerialization() function when they are not the master nor owner of the object.

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This means that the Flip() function is being called twice, which ensures that flipBool = !flipBool doesn't do anything since it's negating itself twice.

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(This is for batch-processing jobs on Udon, so that I can split a big chunk of data into multiple batches.)

tulip badge Sep 29, 2020, 1:17 PM

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Hey,
I'm new to that world creation stuff, but I already made a world with SDK2. Now I'm working on a world with SDK3 and have the AVP Pro player in it. Is there a way to synchronise the video for other players or later joiner?

echo coral Sep 29, 2020, 3:19 PM

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@tulip badge You can definitely do it, but it's easier to use a pre-existing project as a starting point. This is a great one written in U#: https://github.com/MerlinVR/USharpVideo

GitHub

MerlinVR/USharpVideo

A basic video player made for VRChat using Udon and UdonSharp - MerlinVR/USharpVideo

tulip badge Sep 29, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Oh great!
Thank you. I'll have a look at it

floral dove Sep 29, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Also, the prefab that comes with the SDK includes a graph that handles sync @tulip badge

tulip badge Sep 29, 2020, 3:28 PM

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That's good to know!
Will probably return with a question later again. But this helps a lot for now!

sour wind Sep 29, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Anyone know how to loadURLs into the VRC Unity Video Player? Ive been messing with it for a bit but cant seem to find the answer.

floral dove Sep 29, 2020, 5:44 PM

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@sour wind - BaseVrcVideoPlayer.LoadURL or BaseVrcVideoPlayer.PlayURL. You can check out the example graph 'UdonSyncPlayer' for examples of using many of the nodes.

sour wind Sep 29, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Wait, the Video players sync?!

floral dove Sep 29, 2020, 5:49 PM

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@sour wind - not on their own, but the prefabs come with a BIG graph that covers basic sync from owner > everyone for URLs and time.

dark tiger Sep 29, 2020, 5:51 PM

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i just see this world can walk on loop line.... and i just want do this for puzzle my world
@fair bough That is effectively an illusion. I think they achieve that by rotating the world from the perspective of the player. It's pretty nice. But it is only local, so you will see your friends clipping through the floor as you or they move.

📎 Proyecto_sin_titulo.mp4

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Gravity never changes in any way. It's really a very nice effect though :)

steel nova Sep 29, 2020, 6:39 PM

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whats the best streaming method for the video players for low latency? Looked through all the documentation and dont know anything about streaming with a CDN, tried setting up bunnycdn; dont know if its even worth it

floral dove Sep 29, 2020, 6:52 PM

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@steel nova - what do you want to stream? CDNs are useful for playing your own content with lower latency by distributing it to servers around the world, but if you want to Livestream your easiest setup will be to use a service like Twitch or YouTube Live

steel nova Sep 29, 2020, 6:54 PM

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will be hosting events with a dj; need reliable/low latency/high bitrate

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i was looking at some of the cdns on documentations TOS, video streaming said it wasnt allowed?? lol

floral dove Sep 29, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Yeah, I think your best bet will be to stream to a service mentioned above, they're supported in the AVPro player.
It says video streaming isn't allowed somewhere in our docs?

fair bough Sep 29, 2020, 7:01 PM

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@dark tiger Oh thanks for expand.

obtuse agate Sep 29, 2020, 7:49 PM

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@steel nova you may try TopazChat. It’s a free-to-use low-latency streaming server for vrchat users. The latency is less than 5s normally, but there is a restriction on bitrate. You can simply use OBS to stream to it

steel nova Sep 29, 2020, 7:51 PM

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in BunnyCDN's TOD

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TOS*

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also, ive used topaz for sdk2, how can i stream to it with 3?

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is there an updated prefab?

sullen torrent Sep 29, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Is it possible to make a vechele that can only move on the y and z axis

floral dove Sep 29, 2020, 8:13 PM

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maybe ask the creators of TopazChat about that - I've never used it, and we don't provide an official prefab or support for it.

sullen torrent Sep 29, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Do they have a discord server? Or a place I can contact them?

steel nova Sep 29, 2020, 8:21 PM

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^ ,rico he wasnt talking to you lol

sullen torrent Sep 29, 2020, 8:22 PM

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🤦‍♂️

wise charm Sep 29, 2020, 8:54 PM

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how would you add a HUD

obtuse agate Sep 29, 2020, 9:03 PM

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@steel nova i guess you can put topaz URL rtsp://topaz.chat/live/<stream_key> directly into any SDK3 stream player
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ei0pqUMUMAEkc-4?format=png&name=small

floral dove Sep 29, 2020, 9:05 PM

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FYI RTSP urls get caught in a bug right now. I'm working on it but finding that AVPro has VERY limited support for RTSP streams

steel nova Sep 29, 2020, 11:11 PM

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how do synced variables work? IE why doesnt this sync for people that have joined late

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its a door toggle

floral dove Sep 29, 2020, 11:15 PM

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@steel nova - in this case, the 'globalisopen' variable won't necessarily be synced by the time the 'Start' method runs. You can add the event 'OnDeserialization' and it should be updated then, that's called when a synced variable is received from over the network.

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Check out the Synced examples in UdonExampleScene for a couple of simple graphs that react to changing Synced variables.

steel nova Sep 29, 2020, 11:16 PM

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🙌

steel nova Sep 29, 2020, 11:46 PM

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is there any documentation that explains why that works?

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what is deserialization?

floral dove Sep 29, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Deserialization is when network data arrives and is converted from binary data into usable information like an integer, string, etc.

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There's not any VRChat documentation about it because Sync is in an early state and not meant to be widely used yet. We're finishing up the real Udon Sync system, which will be fully documented.

steel nova Sep 29, 2020, 11:56 PM

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understood, thank you for being so active in this chat!

inner steeple Sep 30, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Is there some specific way we're meant to set up cloudfront distributions for me to play an mp4 in udon video players? My s3 bucket works fine but as soon as it comes to cloudfront, I get WindowsVideoMedia error 0xc00d2ee3

floral dove Sep 30, 2020, 12:27 AM

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it should work as long as your URL resolves to a direct mp4 link

inner steeple Sep 30, 2020, 12:29 AM

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That's what's confusing me.. My url does resolve to a direct mp4 and yet I get the error

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It's probably not a udon issue but I thought I'd ask in case anyone else had the issue before

tacit trench Sep 30, 2020, 4:24 AM

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So the udon video player how would I go about having a link baked in the player for the world on load.
Thank you in advance! <3 much love 💙

shy imp Sep 30, 2020, 5:38 AM

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Hi All. I am trying to make a camera in world that can be used by a news crew, camera man and reporter. The idea is to stream the camera to a render texture in world and that would have a dedicated avatar screen recording whatever the camera is seeing. My question is... How would I pass the audio of what the camera hears to the same point as the render texture? Any ideas?

floral dove Sep 30, 2020, 5:44 AM

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@tacit trench just fill out the url field and check autoplay

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@shy imp we don't have support for capturing and replaying audio separately like that.

shy imp Sep 30, 2020, 5:47 AM

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@floral dove thanks for the feedback :)

floral dove Sep 30, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Sorry it's not supported, sounds like a cool idea. 👍

wise charm Sep 30, 2020, 6:29 AM

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Alright, imagine this. There's a mini-game where to win everyone in an instance has to press a button. I assume you would do this by changing a synced variable by 1 when you interact with the button, and win when that synced variable is equal to Vrcplayer Api Get Player Count, but then I thought that maybe that synced variable wouldn't change when someone else pressed the button, because you can't detect when another player interacts with something. So, can someone with more knowledge than me tell me if that would work or not? Ping me if you reply

light fjord Sep 30, 2020, 12:16 PM

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does someone know why OnPlayerJoined Trigger 3 times?

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per player

light fjord Sep 30, 2020, 1:01 PM

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why in the world does OnPlayerJoin trigger so many times..

fiery yoke Sep 30, 2020, 1:02 PM

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Its a bug.

light fjord Sep 30, 2020, 1:05 PM

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oh god.. also is there no way to fill up a collection with all players that join?

fiery yoke Sep 30, 2020, 1:07 PM

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There now is a method for that called GetPlayers

light fjord Sep 30, 2020, 1:07 PM

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so there is no way to do it under Onplayerjoin?

fiery yoke Sep 30, 2020, 1:07 PM

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Well you can

light fjord Sep 30, 2020, 1:07 PM

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cause atm it only shows one user

fiery yoke Sep 30, 2020, 1:09 PM

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No idea what youre talking about.
But OnPlayerJoined should only fire once for each player that joins.
GetPlayers fills an array you provide with all players currently in the instance.
That can be used in combination with GetPlayerCount.

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Thats all you need to know about that to do whatever you want with the player apis

light fjord Sep 30, 2020, 1:09 PM

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hmm i guess thats fine

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it fire once now. but before 3 times for some reason

fiery yoke Sep 30, 2020, 1:10 PM

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As I said its bugged at the moment.

light fjord Sep 30, 2020, 1:24 PM

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does GetPlayers not need to be filled out first?

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So GetPlayers does not work

floral dove Sep 30, 2020, 3:05 PM

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@light fjord you need to create the array to pass into GetPlayers

dark tiger Sep 30, 2020, 4:39 PM

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What is the limit of synchronized object positions using this?

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I am afraid of maybe going to use too many for a performance cap :p

light fjord Sep 30, 2020, 4:53 PM

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i know mate. it finally worked. for some reason it just did not

vital quail Sep 30, 2020, 10:06 PM

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So im just starting to learn udon and I already have a problem...

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isn't there supposed to be a button that says open above the settings?

floral dove Sep 30, 2020, 10:13 PM

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@vital quail - only if you've previous had a graph open

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I recommend you start with the official docs and tutorials which will guide you through things without skipping steps:
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/getting-started-with-udon
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/using-build-test
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/udon-node-graph-upgrade

vital quail Sep 30, 2020, 10:16 PM

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okie. thank you momo

trail shard Oct 1, 2020, 8:36 AM

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I have a toggle script set up right now for some buttons I use for mirrors, is there a way to make it so that the objects I want to toggle start out as off instead of on being the default?

flint urchin Oct 1, 2020, 9:05 AM

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Turn them off in the hierarchy?

trail shard Oct 1, 2020, 9:27 AM

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Yea figured it out thank you!

steel nova Oct 1, 2020, 7:03 PM

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this isnt toggling a gameobject; turns it on and it stays on. Why ;_;

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i actually have a few scripts that randomly stop behaving

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those gameobject toggles at the end dont fire anymore

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floral dove Oct 1, 2020, 7:06 PM

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@steel nova - that looks right, what does the assembly show for that top graph?

steel nova Oct 1, 2020, 7:06 PM

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these things worked at one point

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top

floral dove Oct 1, 2020, 7:08 PM

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yeah, that looks good - any errors in the Unity Console when you Build & Test or in the Client when you run it?

steel nova Oct 1, 2020, 7:10 PM

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thats it

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floral dove Oct 1, 2020, 7:11 PM

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aha - I think your scene is not actually building. Errors in your console = no buildy

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check your scene descriptor - I've seen the 'two delegators' issue show up if you have a missing reference on that component

native estuary Oct 1, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Two delegators is pretty common and shouldn't stop builds from happening

floral dove Oct 1, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Hm - I've never had the issue myself, but the existence of that error as well as the ones about Destroying things in Edit Mode and the log about the UdonBehaviour on Cylinder.008(14) not being able to run points leads me to believe the problem lies not in these specific scripts but in other changes OP has made to their world

fiery yoke Oct 1, 2020, 7:26 PM

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The Two delegators thing is actually an SDK bug I think. That message duplicates itself the more times you do something specific (not sure on what).
Leads me to believe that something isnt cleaned up correctly by the SDK so it creates a memory-leak type situation. Just a speculation, but I have seen it happen myself.

floral dove Oct 1, 2020, 7:31 PM

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It's logged whenever a surplus UpdateDelegator is created. If you can make that happen through normal usage of the SDK, then it's a bug. If it's caused by third-party Unity Editor scripts then it's good that we log something, though if it doesn't stop builds and only logs after the extra Delegator is removed then it should probably be a warning and not an error.

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@scarlet lake - it doesn't mean that but...we will! I'm testing and writing the docs for it now, it's looking solid.

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FYI it's a very different system with more fine-tuned controls, as most things re-made in Udon are.

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but it will enable a lot of awesome new audio possibilities

warm goblet Oct 1, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Anyone know why bunnycdn was removed from the whitelist?

pulsar cove Oct 1, 2020, 7:53 PM

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RTMP still doesn't work 😭

solid cairn Oct 1, 2020, 8:06 PM

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dang, I had purchased some bunnycdn stuff bc it was pretty nice compared to some of the alternatives :/

simple shell Oct 1, 2020, 8:11 PM

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- Soundcloud added to SDK3 URL whitelist...
Yo what? We can trigger SoundCloud hosted music now?

pulsar cove Oct 1, 2020, 8:12 PM

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I gues so?

simple shell Oct 1, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Or any audio rather...

pulsar cove Oct 1, 2020, 8:12 PM

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@solid cairn you can still use it, just check the "allow unsecure URLs" or whatever in the VRC settings menu

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I self host my MP4s / livestreams and use my own URLs and allow them that way

simple shell Oct 1, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Holy crap I need to figure this out... this would make the operation of my Tv studio easier...Sounders and the like could be on a trigger board that streams instead of bloating my world... dude.

pulsar cove Oct 1, 2020, 8:15 PM

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@simple shell if you have a webserver you can upload them to it and then allow unsecure urls

warm goblet Oct 1, 2020, 8:33 PM

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So we cant use bunnycdn for public worlds any more without expecting every single person to check that option?

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I have used them for years, literally everything of mine is on there.