#udon-general | VRChat | Page 9

north lintel Apr 18, 2020, 6:30 PM

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I guess it doesn't delete the object based off of the inspector name, but something else.

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I'm probably trying to explain really simple stuff. I just wish there was documentation I could find for UDON

twilit breach Apr 18, 2020, 6:33 PM

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yeah its setting a variable called TestObj and including whatever you dragged into the public udon behavior part under it

north lintel Apr 18, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Woops, I was referring to variables

twilit breach Apr 18, 2020, 6:33 PM

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which would be whatever the cube is named

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if you want to only destroy a certain name you need to do a bool check for game object names

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with string contain to check if the game object name you get matches the one you want to destroy

north lintel Apr 18, 2020, 6:34 PM

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I'm totally gonna play around with just clicking to delete objects now, this should be more than enough to experiment! (Testing if it deletes all of them at once, or just the ones I click, and how naming what affect whether or not it's deleted)

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I'm guessing synchronize position accounts for its rotation

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This might be a little too advanced for me, though. I have a hard time understanding half of what anyone is saying, haha.

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I'm just an animator.

twilit breach Apr 18, 2020, 6:40 PM

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it does, pos and rot

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here try this next to learn some stuff

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if it is not named test it won't destroy on first click but will change to test and second click will destroy

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if it is named test it would destroy first click

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also I could have called the variable node in Udon anything, that name isn't causing anything (mighta made it confusing oops)

north lintel Apr 18, 2020, 6:49 PM

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That's insane

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haha

twilit breach Apr 18, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Does it make sense or would you like a little write up to understand a portion of the concepts?

north lintel Apr 18, 2020, 6:54 PM

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Is there any documentation planned to be released?

twilit breach Apr 18, 2020, 6:56 PM

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I dunno, haven't heard that bit of news if its out there

north lintel Apr 18, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Ahh, maybe I should just wait, then. I'd have too many small questions. Like synced randomizers between users, just procedural generation stuff

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but I've heard a lot about that not being possible in this current version of UDON

flint urchin Apr 18, 2020, 7:04 PM

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there is documentation in the Udon folder

north lintel Apr 18, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Where would I be able to find that?

flint urchin Apr 18, 2020, 7:08 PM

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ReferenceDocs

north lintel Apr 18, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Okay, so I totally swear, I checked there, and there was nothing but META and Javascript files

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but I mean

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flint urchin Apr 18, 2020, 7:09 PM

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there is a html file there

north lintel Apr 18, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Here it is

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Someone slipped it in while I wasn't looking >_>;;

flint urchin Apr 18, 2020, 7:10 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

north lintel Apr 18, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Oh frick yes, DOCUMENTATION

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I might cry *(I've been looking for this for 2 weeks)

fiery yoke Apr 18, 2020, 7:10 PM

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@worn summit I have a PlayerManager on my GitHub https://github.com/TheHelpfulHelper/UDON-Collection that you can take a look at. It maintains an Array of all PlayerApis in the instance that you can loop over like in the provided Example. If something breaks or it doesnt work let me know.

uncut coral Apr 18, 2020, 7:26 PM

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How do I make an Interactive Button with this SDK? (Toggle mirror, Teleport Player and soo?)

near oriole Apr 18, 2020, 7:26 PM

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does anyone have examples of looping through an array of particle systems and playing them all?

regal geyser Apr 18, 2020, 7:27 PM

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I keep getting the following message:

] Could not load the program; the UdonBehaviour on 'Gun' will not run.

flint urchin Apr 18, 2020, 7:29 PM

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I've got some examples you can look at here @uncut coral https://ask.vrchat.com/t/phaxenors-examples/273

VRChat Udon Discussion Forum

PhaxeNor's Examples

Journal and graphs from me Please do be aware that these are examples and not guides on how to do things. Very basic knowledge on how the Udon Inspector works in excepted. – Basics / Advanced – Player Teleport Toggle Object (Simple) Toggle Object (Advanced) Player “Mods” ...

uncut coral Apr 18, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Thanks Phaxe

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Also how do I open Udon Editor?

flint urchin Apr 18, 2020, 7:35 PM

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VRChat SDK -> Udon Graph or when ever you select a udon graph asset it will show Open Graph in the inspector

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsIMuGFEcEg

YouTube

VRChat

Getting Started with VRChat Udon

Getting Started with VRChat Udon.

This video should always be unlisted.

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uncut coral Apr 18, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Ahh Thankies!

regal geyser Apr 18, 2020, 7:55 PM

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I'm getting the same message in another Project

near oriole Apr 18, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Does udon have the same trigger broadcast types as sdk2? i.e. local or buffer

twilit breach Apr 18, 2020, 7:58 PM

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anything you do is by default local, and if you send a network custom event you can broadcast unbuffered. Idk if you can do buffered events

flint urchin Apr 18, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Can only do unbuffered at the moment

twilit breach Apr 18, 2020, 7:58 PM

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D:

near oriole Apr 18, 2020, 7:59 PM

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perfect makes sense thank you

flint urchin Apr 18, 2020, 7:59 PM

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We can create our own system around it, but don't really recommend it

twilit breach Apr 18, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Anybody good at player tracking? more specifically having a simple object follow a certain player

stray junco Apr 18, 2020, 8:03 PM

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i just follow this tutorial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWv3zloRWY4

and i did this:

but unfortunately the mirror can't be toggled
it only react once toggle off
and not do infinity of and on etc etc

so what is correct nod chemotic
and connection piping order between each nodes ?

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YouTube

Vaughan Schmidt - Vowgan

VRChat Udon Tutorial | Basic Buttons

This is a short tutorial on getting a simple button toggle working using Udon, the new VRChat scripting system. As an example, we're using it to toggle a mirror on and off. I've also included a segment on doing the same thing in UdonSharp, the C# compiler by Merlin allowing fo...

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so what you see here
is a Yelow triangle saying that i don't have correct unity and sdk version
yeah right
i have wary correct one

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so when this error will be fixed

twilit breach Apr 18, 2020, 8:05 PM

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well your behavior is on the mirror so when you turn it off you can't click it. try putting it on a floating cube nearby

stray junco Apr 18, 2020, 8:07 PM

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ah ok i will try that tomorow

twilit breach Apr 18, 2020, 8:07 PM

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also you have the old sdk by a few (which isn't really a big deal), but you do have the wrong unity version

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it is made for unity 2018.4.20f1

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you got 4.13f1

stray junco Apr 18, 2020, 8:09 PM

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what there is a new one
i just follow instructions in #announcements channel
and i got correct one
but maybe there is a newer comes yesterday or today

ah it is so fast i cant keep the speed with it

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so what unity i need to have compatible with my sdk 3

twilit breach Apr 18, 2020, 8:10 PM

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https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/current-unity-version

VRChat

Current Unity Version

This page lists the current Unity version you should use when creating content for VRChat, as well as links to the correct version for both Unity Hub and direct downloads. Current Unity Version The current Unity version in use is Unity 2018.4.20f1. Unity Hub To install the cu...

stray junco Apr 18, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Jesus Christ i have wary old one
thanks @twilit breach

twilit breach Apr 18, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Your welcome 🙂 I would recommend the latest SDK as well, they added some nice things like testing without it trying to start VR https://vrchat.com/home/download

VRChat

VRChat lets you create, publish, and explore virtual worlds with other people from around the world.

fiery yoke Apr 18, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Should we rather use the instance method Drop() for Pickups or the static method ForceDrop(VRCPickup obj)?

regal geyser Apr 18, 2020, 8:48 PM

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I have a problem with the vehicles in my world, the first player in the instance can control the vehicles just fine, but when any other players try to use them, some controls do not work or the position of the vrcplayerstation is lagging behind the vehicle when moving.

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If the first player leaves, it is fine for the other player again

flint urchin Apr 18, 2020, 8:58 PM

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You need to claim ownership over the vehicle the player is going to control

regal geyser Apr 18, 2020, 9:03 PM

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what is the method to set the player interacting with the seat as the owner?

regal geyser Apr 18, 2020, 9:36 PM

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or where can I find documentation about ownership and related things?

stray junco Apr 18, 2020, 9:43 PM

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hi again

ok since that i need to move from old3 to new sdk3
and that i don't want to install unity packages all over again

what in old sdk3 do i have to delete
so i can install new sdk3 with intact already saved unity packages

pls help

fallen prawn Apr 18, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Udon,VRCSDK,VRChat Examples

stray junco Apr 18, 2020, 9:49 PM

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ok i hope it will work
thanks

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btw
i don't have VRChat Examples
bit i will delete the rest
hope it works

regal geyser Apr 18, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Can I use the Networking.SetOwner function for the ownership of the vehicle?

stray junco Apr 18, 2020, 10:08 PM

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...
now with a newest sdk3 i have vrchat examples
i upload some unity packages in there
and now everything function correct

thank again

torn quail Apr 18, 2020, 10:23 PM

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is there a way to ignore collision of an object with other objects only while holding it?

twilit breach Apr 18, 2020, 10:48 PM

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change the layer on pickup and set it back on drop. make it a layer that doesn't hit what you are avoiding

lapis sable Apr 18, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Can I call the udon script function from the UI button?

torn quail Apr 18, 2020, 11:06 PM

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how can i do that? as far as i know i can set an object's layer only once in any state that it is (both picked up or droped)

gritty spear Apr 18, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Is there a way to edit how far avatar's voices travel?

rough delta Apr 19, 2020, 12:01 AM

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So I uploaded a world to PC and then I switch it over to Android to upload for the quest but as soon as I did that the SDK window wouldn't load past sign in

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Is that an issue with the SDK or am I just doing something wrong

keen juniper Apr 19, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Hello everyone, how can synchronize object in udon?

proud snow Apr 19, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Add an "udon behavior", check off synchronize position

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add component

nimble thunder Apr 19, 2020, 12:42 AM

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hey guys, is there any way to get the actual player's view, not the head?

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because getting the tracking data for the head just gives me the stuff for the head bone, which shakes around, and same with get bone pos

keen juniper Apr 19, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Add an "udon behavior", check off synchronize position
@proud snow I have several udon behavior this will work ?

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at one object

proud snow Apr 19, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Just try it out, I asked the same question 4 hours ago lol

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I am just trying to replace all the triggers in my world with udon right now

keen juniper Apr 19, 2020, 12:45 AM

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ok i will try thx

nimble thunder Apr 19, 2020, 1:06 AM

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nevermind, i was stupid and trackingdata head was the correct way to do it

near oriole Apr 19, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Is there an api for setting the players voice range? like run speed and jump impulse ?

flint urchin Apr 19, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Not yet

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https://feedback.vrchat.com/vrchat-udon-closed-alpha-bugs/p/player-audio-override-not-working

near oriole Apr 19, 2020, 1:24 AM

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RIP thanks

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Actually Phaxe the language in that canny is a bit misleading, does the API exist and it doesn't work currently, or does it just not exist as of yet?

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I'd implement it and just have it work eventually once they've updated the SDK if it exists if so

flint urchin Apr 19, 2020, 1:31 AM

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They already have it working for SDK2, but SDK3 it doesn't work. The component is there, just doesn't do anything

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And wouldn't say it's misleading, when it says it's not working

near oriole Apr 19, 2020, 1:32 AM

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ahhh okay sorry

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what's the name of the component?

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I can't seem to find it

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That's what I was getting at

glossy sky Apr 19, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Are seats not currently working or am I being a pepega?
https://i.imgur.com/W6ZwzW7.png
The animator seems to work with other events just fine, except for recognizing when a player enters the seat.

Imgur

opaque plume Apr 19, 2020, 7:31 AM

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Is the teleport function the only way to move player? is that how all of the udon flying worlds work?

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Teleporting forward every frame based on some calculated speed?

fiery yoke Apr 19, 2020, 8:01 AM

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You can also set the players velocity. However thats a bit tricky to figure out.

regal geyser Apr 19, 2020, 9:21 AM

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Is there any tutorial or documentation about how to handle ownership of objects?

stone smelt Apr 19, 2020, 10:28 AM

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Quick question. How am i able to change the text of a button when i hover over it so instead of saying "use" it says for example "mirror toggle"?

fiery yoke Apr 19, 2020, 10:29 AM

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Currently you can only do that in the Debug Inspector (top right of the inspector) it should say Interaction Text or Use Text somewhere

stone smelt Apr 19, 2020, 10:29 AM

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Oh i will check that out then thanx ^^

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Also. If i have 2 mirrors in my world (1 optemized and 1 regular) how can i make it so when i enable one of them the other one dissables?

fiery yoke Apr 19, 2020, 10:36 AM

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Depends, but the easiest way is to disable all mirrors by referencing them directly, and then AFTER that only turning the one on you want.

stone smelt Apr 19, 2020, 10:36 AM

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I see

distant ore Apr 19, 2020, 2:50 PM

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is there a way to set a player's velocity in local direction and not global?

distant ore Apr 19, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Nvm got it figured out 👌

green plinth Apr 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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@fallen prawn you also need to replace/remove the "VRCSDK.meta" and "Udon.meta" files in the Assets folder.

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I need to use "Date Time Get Day Of Week" and i want to read the correct enumeration from "Day Of Week Type" as a string, but i cannot find what to use to read/reffer to the type/enum properly. Anyone know?

night mango Apr 19, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Hello! iam new to Vrchat!
how do Watch YouTube videos in vrchat?

green plinth Apr 19, 2020, 5:08 PM

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@night mango this is the questions section for the Udon script system. We mainly answer programming questions. But to answer your question, you need to find a world with a video player and then copy paste a valid URL into it's URL input field (use ctrl+c and ctrl+v keys to copy and paste), you can try ask a player/friend in game on how to do it.

night mango Apr 19, 2020, 5:22 PM

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thank you!

mortal star Apr 19, 2020, 5:41 PM

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how do I get local player's head and/or hand rotation?

worthy beacon Apr 19, 2020, 5:45 PM

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is there any way to instantiate a game object such that everyone will see it? ie synconized

mortal star Apr 19, 2020, 5:45 PM

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I think I found the node xD

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flint urchin Apr 19, 2020, 5:59 PM

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@worthy beacon not yet

twilit breach Apr 19, 2020, 6:09 PM

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hmm if I locally change a variable and send a network event to all players, would it send that locally changed variable to everyone? or would each persons client get the original variable?

nova hornet Apr 19, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Is there a way to force users to drop held objects?

oblique sand Apr 19, 2020, 6:28 PM

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~~VRCPlayerApi.EnablePickups could work if you toggle it off for a frame? (haven't tested but its the only thing that seems related)~~

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is a child object of a pickup able to have a different owner than the parent?

flint urchin Apr 19, 2020, 6:30 PM

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nova hornet Apr 19, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Perfect

green plinth Apr 19, 2020, 6:34 PM

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@twilit breach Doing global synching of variables is still a bit finniky. If you use a synched variable you run the risk of the value not being changed on the receiving end until after the event has been completed (meaning nothing happens). If you run a late update event to double check the synched variable with a local one and then run the event again locally if altered then it should in theory effectively work fine. So yes network events will only use the variable specified, if it not synched it reads from the local players/receivers memory, if synched it reads from a network synched global variable that is updated when ever it feel like it. :P
This example might help a bit.
https://ask.vrchat.com/t/network-synched-toggle-global/778

VRChat Udon Discussion Forum

Network synched toggle (global)

This is what i believe to be a solid solution to the toggle issue people been having, enjoy. Simple one object toggle. More advanced multiple object toggle (not much difference). Basically what is going on is that i assert the intended behaviour by the network call it s...

mortal star Apr 19, 2020, 6:40 PM

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What nodes to use to transform Quaternion rotation to a vector direction?

worthy beacon Apr 19, 2020, 6:58 PM

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hmm...probly gonna put my project on hold until then. Not much point is having ki blasters if you're the only one that can see it shoot

twilit breach Apr 19, 2020, 7:02 PM

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you can always just put a few numbered ones in the scene off in the corner in a box and teleport instead of instantiate

worthy beacon Apr 19, 2020, 7:04 PM

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so like have a syncronized number, when a player renders in assign that ki blast to the player?

twilit breach Apr 19, 2020, 7:10 PM

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yeah, that's possible. there's many ways to do it. just as long as you have them in scene already for everyone and then through some form of synced variables or bools move through the number of objects so each player gets one and then moves some variable forward/up so the next players gets the second dupe and doesnt steal the first

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it's definitely a lot of extra work but possible

worthy beacon Apr 19, 2020, 7:11 PM

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hmm...ill try doing that first then, even if we get sync out later might be good to learn manipulation of objects that exists with player managment

rough delta Apr 19, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Does the new SDK support Android

shy sinew Apr 19, 2020, 7:50 PM

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so does UDON supports Oculus Quest? I couldn't find any info about that 😢

nova hornet Apr 19, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Yes, it does

rough delta Apr 19, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Has the control panel froze up on anyone else

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It won't load past this and I don't know what to do

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This is with sdk3

mortal star Apr 19, 2020, 8:01 PM

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I'm missing something... I tried applying velocity to player but I seem fo tail to do this

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rough delta Apr 19, 2020, 8:15 PM

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I mean I guess it's not loading the tabs

mortal star Apr 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

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I wanted to apply some velocity to where desktop player were looking

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the only script that worked was the one that VRChat provided for jump xD

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The graph should be loading right?

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rough delta Apr 19, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Now my world won't load in build and test it's 10mb but it shows up as 70kb and I'm really getting depressed rn

jagged crow Apr 19, 2020, 9:46 PM

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whats the difference between Transform.get_position() and Transform.get_localPosition()?

fiery yoke Apr 19, 2020, 10:12 PM

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@jagged crow the local position is whats displayed in the inspector. The position is the absolute position in the world, this is affected by parent transforms.

jagged crow Apr 19, 2020, 10:24 PM

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oooh I see

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I thought it had to do with networking

jagged crow Apr 19, 2020, 11:35 PM

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what's the proper way to combine two velocities, should I add or multiply them?

acoustic delta Apr 19, 2020, 11:41 PM

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@jagged crow Adding. If you are moving at 20km/h on top of a platform moving 40km/h, then you are moving at 60km/h and not 800. 🙂

jagged crow Apr 19, 2020, 11:41 PM

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hah true!

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I feel like I remember having to multiply vectors for something

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can't remember what it was

acoustic delta Apr 19, 2020, 11:43 PM

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@jagged crow In High School you probably did it to calculate the Dot product to find the angle between the two vectors, or to calculate the Cross product to find the vector perpendicular to the plane defined by the two vectors you are multiplying.

jagged crow Apr 19, 2020, 11:45 PM

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hmmm that does sound familiar, probably that

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tfw you passed a class but don't remember half the stuff you learned 🙄

acoustic delta Apr 19, 2020, 11:46 PM

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https://www.mathsisfun.com/algebra/vectors-dot-product.html
https://www.mathsisfun.com/algebra/vectors-cross-product.html

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@jagged crow Wish I had known if this website in HS. Been using it to repeat HS math for my uni exams lol.
https://www.mathsisfun.com/algebra/vectors.html

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Vectors

Math explained in easy language, plus puzzles, games, quizzes, worksheets and a forum. For K-12 kids, teachers and parents.

jagged crow Apr 19, 2020, 11:47 PM

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oooh yeah this is definitely ringing some bells

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also, bookmarked :D

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oh vrc-related, is there a special way to attach an object to somebody's face

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or do I just calculate it

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(for making a gui)

fiery yoke Apr 19, 2020, 11:53 PM

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The easiest way is to grab the TrackingData(Head)

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The complex way is to parent it to the Head Proxy :^)

jagged crow Apr 19, 2020, 11:53 PM

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head proxy? :o

fiery yoke Apr 19, 2020, 11:54 PM

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A "secret" GameObject that the VisualDamagePrefab gets attached to when using the Combat System

jagged crow Apr 19, 2020, 11:54 PM

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oooh

fiery yoke Apr 19, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Essentially just a GameObject that is always where youre ingame head is

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the big advantage is that it scales with your IPD

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So the bigger your avatar the bigger the object

jagged crow Apr 19, 2020, 11:55 PM

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oooh neat

fiery yoke Apr 19, 2020, 11:55 PM

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With a parent constraint you probably dont even need to directly parent it

jagged crow Apr 19, 2020, 11:56 PM

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would I use Transform.SetParent() for that

fiery yoke Apr 19, 2020, 11:56 PM

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yeah I guess. But getting the Head Proxy is not that easy

jagged crow Apr 19, 2020, 11:56 PM

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ahh

fiery yoke Apr 19, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Maybe it is, I havent tried using Find yet

jagged crow Apr 19, 2020, 11:58 PM

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(Keep in mind I'm new to vrchat and unity as well, not just udon haha)

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whole lotta stuff to learn

fiery yoke Apr 19, 2020, 11:58 PM

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Ohh well then you probably wanna go for the easy and straight forward method first

jagged crow Apr 19, 2020, 11:58 PM

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yeah that's probably the better idea lol

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I've been inspired by the gravity and jetpack udon worlds, wanna make something neat like that :D

dawn oxide Apr 20, 2020, 12:10 AM

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is it possible to make a day and night cycle with udon?

distant ore Apr 20, 2020, 3:20 AM

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anybody notice that most of the times when you trying to reconfig the I/O of the nodes (rerouting them to other nodes) , it would not update in client?

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 3:51 AM

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@dawn oxide Yes, take a look at: https://www.vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_288890e5-c981-41b5-8528-ceacb611fc38

distant ore Apr 20, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Ah so the compile button in UDON graph editor is not working correctly. Had to run playmode before launching client to force compile lol.

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Yeah that has been an issue for a while.

distant ore Apr 20, 2020, 3:52 AM

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if I had khown it sooner lol. spent way too much time trying to figure out what I did wrong in the graph.

near oriole Apr 20, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Question, I have a trigger set up to toggle objects with a network broadcast - but that trigger is only visable once someone has entered a password to enable the game object

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the problem is those who haven't entered the password aren't seeing the action triggered

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Is there a way around this or am I doing something wrong here?

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Is it normal that disabled UdonBehaviour still receive Events and process them?! 0.o Or am I doing something terribly wrong?

timber lion Apr 20, 2020, 6:31 AM

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UdonSynced variables should be properly synced on Start() right?

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 6:38 AM

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Yeah they sync before start happens as far as I remember

primal umbra Apr 20, 2020, 6:38 AM

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Ok this seems like a easy task, but i dont get it. I try to set the orientation while teleporting. I want it to be like before Udon (looking in the direction of the blue arrow) for some reason you always face spawn direction. https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/business5/uploads/tupper_test/original/1X/78fd31676f34180b05a900ee6c08748e28dfd72e.png i tried to do this. But either i dont find the right stuff or they changed it. Because i dont have some of the connections on "type to string"... I try to make it onInteract

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 6:40 AM

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I dont even know why he did that type to string stuff. the CharacterController type is exposed afaik

primal umbra Apr 20, 2020, 6:44 AM

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right now i use this because it works fine. But doesnt face the right directions only spawn. I slapped the rotation thingy on it and made it connect with the 3rd. Seemed legit but it breaks the teleport and does nothing.

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timber lion Apr 20, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Okay I'm having major problems with variables just straight up not syncing. Events work fine though. Gonna see if there is an sdk update or something I missed

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Yeah that didn't help

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I know it's a really general question with no easy explanation but if anyone else had their synced vars just straight up not working, let me know

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 7:23 AM

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@timber lion Does it say anything in the console/logs?

timber lion Apr 20, 2020, 7:40 AM

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Yeah actually it might be some null reference exceptions. I can post them later but let me make sure they aren't problems with my logic first

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 7:41 AM

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OHHH

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@timber lion are you using UdonSharp for this?

jagged crow Apr 20, 2020, 8:19 AM

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oh snap its jar

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love your worlds dude :D

wise bay Apr 20, 2020, 8:30 AM

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Does the Update event fire at a specific frequency? Trying to get into animation and wondering what is the best way to reference time

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 8:30 AM

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Update is fired every frame, more info: https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/ExecutionOrder.html

wise bay Apr 20, 2020, 8:31 AM

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Ty @fiery yoke

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So it seems like the frequency of Update can fluctuate a lot

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Probably not a good idea to base step-wise animations off of it

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There must be some kind of velocity system that I have yet to figure out

wise bay Apr 20, 2020, 8:51 AM

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Is it possible to grab a component from a referenced Game Object?

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 8:52 AM

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GameObject.GetComponent with the Type as input

wise bay Apr 20, 2020, 8:52 AM

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okay that's what I thought, been having a little trouble with it

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ah, had the wrong version of the node 🤦‍♀️

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oh my god it works! I am animating

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💸

dawn oxide Apr 20, 2020, 9:36 AM

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@fiery yoke thank you for showing me. I want to try out udon myself but I'm still wanting to find out more.

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Is it also possible to make a health bar type of ui with udon?

west plover Apr 20, 2020, 9:37 AM

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Yes, you can drive UI with Udon and store a persistent HP value

lapis sable Apr 20, 2020, 10:58 AM

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How can I get the value of a controller trigger in LocalPlayer from UDON?

grand temple Apr 20, 2020, 11:46 AM

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input.GetAxisRaw

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and then in the case of the triggers, it's "Oculus_CrossPlatform_PrimaryIndexTrigger" for the left and "Oculus_CrossPlatform_SecondaryIndexTrigger" for the right

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and you can consult this sheet for all the rest of the inputs https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_iF0NjJniTnQn-knCjb5nLh6rlLfW_QKM19wtSW_S9w/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

VRChat inputs

VR controller summary

This page is a combination of the other pages. These
inputs are verified to work on every known controller, and
in cases where they don't an alternative is provided.,Use this world to test:
https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_f8d5f7e4-185c-4b82-8ecb-8a...

timber lion Apr 20, 2020, 12:44 PM

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In my logs I see a lot of this type of message. I think it's logging so much the vrchat instance is lagging.

  at ǄǄǄǄǄǄǄǅǄǄǄǅǅǄǄǄǄǄǄǄǄǅǅǄǄǅǅǄǅǄǄǅǅǄǄǅǄǅǅǅǄǅǄǄǅǅǄ.ǅǅǅǄǄǄǅǅǅǄǄǅǄǄǄǄǄǅǅǅǅǅǅǄǄǄǅǄǅǄǄǅǄǅǅǅǄǅǅǄǅǅǄǄǅǄǄ (System.Single ǄǅǄǅǅǅǅǄǅǄǅǄǄǅǄǄǅǄǄǅǅǄǅǅǄǅǄǅǅǅǄǅǄǅǅǄǄǄǄǅǄǅǄǅǅǅǅ) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0 
  at ǄǅǅǅǄǅǅǅǅǅǅǄǅǄǅǄǄǅǄǄǅǅǅǅǅǅǄǄǄǄǅǄǅǅǄǄǅǄǅǄǄǄǄǄǄǄǅ[T].ǄǅǅǅǄǅǅǄǄǅǄǅǅǅǄǄǄǄǄǄǅǅǄǅǄǅǄǅǄǅǅǄǄǅǅǄǄǅǅǅǄǅǄǄǅǅǅ (ǄǅǅǄǄǄǅǄǄǅǄǄǅǄǄǅǄǅǄǅǄǅǅǅǄǅǄǅǅǅǅǅǄǄǅǄǅǄǅǅǅǅǄǄǄǄǄ[T] ǅǄǄǄǄǄǄǄǄǅǄǅǅǄǄǄǅǅǄǄǄǅǄǅǄǅǄǅǄǅǅǅǅǅǅǅǄǄǄǅǅǄǄǅǅǅǅ, System.Single ǄǅǅǄǄǄǅǄǄǅǄǅǄǄǄǅǄǅǄǅǅǅǅǅǄǄǅǅǅǄǅǄǅǅǅǅǅǄǄǄǅǅǄǄǄǅǄ, System.Boolean ǅǅǅǅǅǄǄǅǅǅǅǄǅǅǄǄǅǅǄǄǅǄǄǄǅǅǅǅǅǄǅǅǅǄǄǄǄǄǄǅǅǅǅǅǄǅǅ) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0 
  at VRC.Networking.UdonSync.ǅǄǅǄǄǄǅǄǄǅǅǅǄǅǅǅǄǅǄǅǅǅǄǄǅǄǅǅǄǅǄǅǄǄǄǄǅǄǅǄǅǅǄǄǄǄǅ (System.Single ǄǅǄǅǅǅǅǄǅǄǅǄǄǅǄǄǅǄǄǅǅǄǅǅǄǅǄǅǅǅǄǅǄǅǅǄǄǄǄǅǄǅǄǅǅǅǅ) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0 
  at VRC.Core.UpdateDispatcher.ǅǅǄǅǄǅǄǅǅǄǄǅǄǅǅǅǅǅǅǄǅǅǅǅǄǄǅǅǄǅǄǄǅǅǄǄǄǄǄǅǅǅǄǅǅǄǅ (VRC.Core.UpdateDispatcher+ǄǅǅǄǅǅǄǅǅǅǄǄǅǅǄǄǄǅǅǄǄǄǅǅǅǅǅǅǅǄǄǄǄǅǄǅǄǄǄǅǄǅǅǅǄǄǅ ǄǅǄǄǅǄǅǄǅǄǄǄǄǅǄǅǅǅǄǄǄǅǅǄǄǅǅǅǄǅǄǄǅǅǅǅǅǅǄǄǄǄǄǄǅǄǄ) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0 
  at VRC.Core.UpdateDispatcher.ǄǅǄǄǅǅǅǄǅǄǅǅǅǅǄǅǅǄǄǅǅǅǅǄǄǅǅǄǄǅǄǄǄǄǅǅǄǄǅǅǄǅǄǄǅǄǅ (System.Boolean ǅǄǅǅǅǅǅǅǅǅǄǄǅǅǄǅǄǅǅǅǅǅǄǄǅǄǅǄǅǅǅǅǄǅǄǅǄǅǄǅǅǅǄǅǄǅǄ, System.Boolean ǅǄǄǄǄǄǄǄǄǄǅǄǅǅǄǄǄǅǄǅǅǅǅǄǄǄǄǅǅǅǅǅǅǅǅǅǅǄǄǅǅǄǄǅǄǅǄ) [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 12:46 PM

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@timber lion Again: Do you use UdonSharp?

timber lion Apr 20, 2020, 12:46 PM

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oh

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Yes

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Sorry I kinda just hopped back on

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 12:47 PM

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UdonSharp initialises all variables to null if not explicitly stated otherwise (for technical reasons) So better do: public string myString = ""; instead of public string myString;

timber lion Apr 20, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Oh okay I know what you mean. Sounds good

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Also not sure, but if you already made the variable the inspector sometimes overwrites the default value from the script, so press that "return arrow" if its there.

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unfortunately null and empty string are not differentiable in the inspector so they might look the same which is meh

timber lion Apr 20, 2020, 12:50 PM

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I'm actually only syncing bools and ints

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Ohh same in that case

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for all value types

timber lion Apr 20, 2020, 12:51 PM

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I'm just glad the log does indeed make it clear that it's an udonsync problem

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and should help me narrow down the problematic component faster

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@jagged crow thanks vrcHappy

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 12:55 PM

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custom emojis are disabled here. For good reasons 🙃

timber lion Apr 20, 2020, 12:57 PM

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I see

west plover Apr 20, 2020, 12:57 PM

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I would use null when possible when declaring an empty string

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This is because that's the C# standard

timber lion Apr 20, 2020, 12:58 PM

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But it can break udonsync...

west plover Apr 20, 2020, 12:58 PM

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That's personal code preference though

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Udon(Graph) actually initialises strings to String.Empty by default.

west plover Apr 20, 2020, 12:58 PM

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That's true, so you need to make sure you're initializing synced vars with a value

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 12:59 PM

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I would recommend String.Empty because you can then relatively easily do String.IsNullOrEmpty

west plover Apr 20, 2020, 12:59 PM

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But yeah keeping a consistent understanding of what "actually not there" is makes life easier

timber lion Apr 20, 2020, 12:59 PM

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Anyway this is a weird sanity check question but can you always rely on Networking.LocalPlayer to be not null?

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 12:59 PM

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Yes, except for when the player leaves maybe

timber lion Apr 20, 2020, 12:59 PM

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not that you should. But if you can

west plover Apr 20, 2020, 12:59 PM

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Networking.LocalPlayer is null in-editor

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So you must always protect against it.

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 1:00 PM

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Honestly you pretty much need null checks literally everywhere if you want to be safe xD

timber lion Apr 20, 2020, 1:01 PM

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Look I know but in the vrchat client I think got some logs where it was null when not expected to be

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Maybe it was actually when disconnecting idk

west plover Apr 20, 2020, 1:01 PM

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Merlin's tool has the ability to sniff output logs

timber lion Apr 20, 2020, 1:02 PM

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Not sure what tool you're referring to

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It sounds useful

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So I don't think defining default values did anything, every one of my [UdonSynced] variables has a proper value in its declaration but the logs still happen :c

scarlet lake Apr 20, 2020, 1:19 PM

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hi guys, I've been trying to figure out how to change the value of player walk speed from 5 to 10 via a button interaction
And I want it to be vice versa. How would I go about this because I'm stumped

📎 udonscript.PNG

west plover Apr 20, 2020, 1:39 PM

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When UdonSharp is in your Unity project I think it has a tool that sniffs running VRC instance logs and tries to match up behaviour throws to the U# script that called it?

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I'd have to double-check the behaviour of said tool

timber lion Apr 20, 2020, 1:44 PM

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That would be pretty cool

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Anyway from what I can tell, my behaviors are running fine, and don't "halt" like with a typical udon exception. Some unknown number of times per tick, the exception I posted above throws and that client just doesn't get updated variable values. For now I'm commenting out UdonSynced attributes until I can maybe find out if it's a specific problematic variable?

scarlet lake Apr 20, 2020, 1:53 PM

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anyone know how to do toggable doors with animations on udon?

proper oar Apr 20, 2020, 2:07 PM

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how do i put hitInfo into a raycast hit variable? in C# it would simply be Raycast(Vector3,Vector3,out Hit_raycast,int 10,int 0,QueryTriggerInteration)

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crisp patio Apr 20, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Hi. Can I increase the volume and range of players voices?

civic trail Apr 20, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Question - I wanna make a trashcan that destroys/respawns an item, could anyone tell me what I need for this in Udon? At least what nodes I need

primal umbra Apr 20, 2020, 4:33 PM

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@flint urchin, i have a quick question about your examples. Specificly the teleportation. How do i set the orientation? I tried setting it with Quaternion but it still takes the orientation from the spawn.

flint urchin Apr 20, 2020, 4:33 PM

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get the transform rotation and put that into the rotation input on the teleport node

primal umbra Apr 20, 2020, 4:44 PM

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like this?, I tried that but it doesnt work. I kinda feel dumb for not getting it right.

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flint urchin Apr 20, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Let me look at it again, rotation has been a bit iffy, which is why I didn’t include it

dull wyvern Apr 20, 2020, 4:49 PM

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soo i installed the udon sdk and followed the video up to the point were to hit new program and i get a windows noise and nothing happens. is there a way to fix this?

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not sure if it matters but im also getting this error at the bottom

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dull wyvern Apr 20, 2020, 5:16 PM

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reinstalling it seemed to fix it

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...

stray junco Apr 20, 2020, 6:20 PM

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hi

i want when i click on mirror
to toggle of and on
i know that for an object to be turned on i need to add nod call's
gameobject.set active
but when i need to find...
gameobject.set inactive
it doesn't show up

so how to achieve that

floral dove Apr 20, 2020, 6:40 PM

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@stray junco to perform "set inactive", use a SetActive with the value set to false.

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@stray junco - check out the Prefabs unity scene in Assets/VRChat Examples to see a working mirror toggle.

stray junco Apr 20, 2020, 6:42 PM

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ok i will try that
i hope it will work tnx

floral dove Apr 20, 2020, 6:42 PM

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@civic trail - VRCInstantiate is what you would want to create an item but it's not ready yet. In the meantime, you can simply set the item to inactive/active at the gameobject level.

spring nymph Apr 20, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Hi. Can I increase the volume and range of players voices?
@crisp patio I'm also interested in that. I'd like to make it so anyone standing in a particular area would have enhanced voice.

stray junco Apr 20, 2020, 6:46 PM

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am i set it correct ?

@floral dove

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floral dove Apr 20, 2020, 6:47 PM

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@spring nymph @crisp patio - Audio Override and Manipulation is not in yet

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@stray junco - close, but you want the TARGET variable feeding into the GetActiveInHierarchy's input, so that node knows which GameObject to look at. Then plug the output of your Unary Negation into the top SetActive node's 'value' input.

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You can delete the SetActive you have at the bottom - nodes that don't have flow are never triggered (the white lines connecting through arrows)

spring nymph Apr 20, 2020, 6:55 PM

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@spring nymph @crisp patio - Audio Override and Manipulation is not in yet
@floral dove Damn, too bad. Well, it's alright. Not like it's essential or anything. I haven't even managed to make doors that can be opened with physics.

floral dove Apr 20, 2020, 6:58 PM

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@spring nymph - it's an important one to enable all sorts of experiences and it's on the roadmap

spring nymph Apr 20, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Cool. I'll look out for the next patches then.

floral dove Apr 20, 2020, 7:02 PM

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@spring nymph - the best way to follow it is to vote on this issue, then you'll get a notification when it's done!
https://feedback.vrchat.com/vrchat-udon-closed-alpha-bugs/p/player-audio-override-not-working

spring nymph Apr 20, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Huh, didn't know that. Thanks. It's a nice feature to have.

worthy beacon Apr 20, 2020, 7:07 PM

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can you run two udon scripts on the same game object?

civic trail Apr 20, 2020, 7:07 PM

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@floral dove Ok, thanks, but you know how the item respawns when you throw it off bounds? In this case I want to reproduce that behavior with the "trashcan". Dunno if I interpret your response wrong or if I was being vague in my question :)

floral dove Apr 20, 2020, 7:09 PM

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@civic trail - just move it to its original position then!
On Start > save the object's position to a Vector3
When you want to 'Respawn', set the object's position to the stored value

civic trail Apr 20, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Oh ok, I wouldn't know how to do that yet, but at least it's a start on my quest to find out :) Cheers, I'll search for some guides

stray junco Apr 20, 2020, 7:25 PM

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according to my knowledge...
you can run same UDON scripts on same game object
or you can run multiple deferent commands
using only 1 UDON script for same object

so in general you don't have to have 2 UDON scripts
controlling one game object
@worthy beacon

but i wonder
is it possible to make 2 deferent UDON scripts
for example
1 UDON script can control 1st game object
and
2 UDON script can control 2nd game object

or maybe i already have ability to make separate 2 scripts
in 1 UDON graph
that separately controls 2 game objects each

urban pivot Apr 20, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Tinkering for a moment, I'm a little confused on why this isn't returning the correct way. I was informed that this would be the easiest method for return;
If not, would I need to use a Custom Event?

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worthy beacon Apr 20, 2020, 8:18 PM

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@urban pivot are you making sure to convert the output to a string before attaching it?

urban pivot Apr 20, 2020, 8:19 PM

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From the branch or to the 'Text set Text' @worthy beacon ?

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I could just type something in the 'Text set Text' value anyways.

worthy beacon Apr 20, 2020, 8:22 PM

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the value you have set to "value string" in text set text

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is just putting a value in there not outputing?

urban pivot Apr 20, 2020, 8:22 PM

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I only want the Set Text to be activated when the Branch returns True.

worthy beacon Apr 20, 2020, 8:23 PM

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also, do you have somthing set to your branch?

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i noticed in the image theres nothing connected to the branch

urban pivot Apr 20, 2020, 8:24 PM

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I've attached a Start to it, yes. In my testing I've used 'Start', 'OnPlayerJoin', 'CustomEvent', etc.

dawn oxide Apr 20, 2020, 8:25 PM

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@west plover ty

worthy beacon Apr 20, 2020, 8:25 PM

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alrighty, well cant say much else then make sure it compliles and you dont have stuff attached to inputs that arnt the same at the output

urban pivot Apr 20, 2020, 8:26 PM

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When comparing two like strings would I used top or bottom?

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This is whats being tested currently, as whatever this returns it will return in the UI Text TRUE or FALSE.

worthy beacon Apr 20, 2020, 8:26 PM

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i know i had a lot of frustration at the beginning ensuring it compiled. Ive gotten it down to a paranoia of making sure i have the script selected in the project, not the hierarchy, hit manual compile, click outside the graph, save, hit play, after its done playing its usually compiled XD

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string equals x y where x is the top and y is the bottom is the equvilemnt to x.equals(y)

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since its equals, it doesnt mater what is on top of bottom

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its better to use equals tho with string in my experiance, however a string == comparison should work too

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im surprized the string equals is a boolean output tho....

urban pivot Apr 20, 2020, 8:30 PM

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That was odd to me aswel

dull wyvern Apr 20, 2020, 8:30 PM

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i understand little about how this all works. i just want a very simple function that im not sure if it can work. aand ideas on how to mkae avatars/people pick upable?

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simaler to how an object is grabed

urban pivot Apr 20, 2020, 8:31 PM

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@dull wyvern You'd have to set a collider around them and then make that pick-upable through Interaction probably.

dull wyvern Apr 20, 2020, 8:31 PM

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cool but again i would not know how to do so.

worthy beacon Apr 20, 2020, 8:31 PM

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been curious about making a rigid body object, and constently making the player teleport to it

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is sit not a usable function?

urban pivot Apr 20, 2020, 8:35 PM

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In chairs, or general?

worthy beacon Apr 20, 2020, 8:36 PM

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in general

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cuz sitting far as i know is the only way to parent the player to an object right?

urban pivot Apr 20, 2020, 8:39 PM

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With a collision object such as a cube you can put the player inside of it and constantly teleport them inside every few seconds and be able to pick it up externally.

dull wyvern Apr 20, 2020, 8:56 PM

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would anyone be willing to help in my udon adventures.. lol (im noob)

worthy beacon Apr 20, 2020, 9:10 PM

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anyone know what is the button for jump?

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like what its called

boreal plaza Apr 20, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Hello, I get this now all of a sudden? ... and I don't have any errors. Anyone know what could cause this?

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Idk what it is but I might have broken something because I cant use probuilder anymore for some reason either

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hmm delting all my udon assets didnt work either

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Fixed: Removed UdonSharp package and reimported it.

jagged crow Apr 20, 2020, 10:30 PM

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am I doing something wrong here or can you not get head position data for desktop users?

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it's just moving the thing to 0,0,0

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oh wait just tested it in vr and its not working there either

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now I'm confused

near oriole Apr 20, 2020, 10:45 PM

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any ideas why this flow would cause udon to halt

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it's something to do with the get collider and get collider name

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object and object name *

wise bay Apr 20, 2020, 11:20 PM

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anyone know which node will take a vector 3 and separate it out into 3 floats?

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I feel like I must be blind, but I can't find it

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 11:24 PM

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@wise bay Vector3.get x/y/z

wise bay Apr 20, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Thank you, so it is only getting individual per node?

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I.e. if I want to get x and z, I must have two nodes

fiery yoke Apr 20, 2020, 11:25 PM

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I think so

wise bay Apr 20, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Okay, that's a little cumbersome but nbd

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I was hoping for basically the inverse of a vector3 constructor

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Totes fine though, just looking to reduce # of nodes

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Thanks for all the help @fiery yoke 😊

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 12:23 AM

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whats the simplest way to get a debug log going?

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I did --enable-udon-debug-logging but that just writes to an external text file

near oriole Apr 21, 2020, 12:26 AM

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is there a more detailed way of getting error messages for in game errors? I have a trigger that works fine in unity but in game it errors out generically

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@jagged crow if you're talking about in-game you can hit rshift+backtick+3 to get a log that looks like what i just posted

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 12:36 AM

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tried that, didn't do anything

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o.O

fiery yoke Apr 21, 2020, 12:39 AM

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You have to start VRChat with the launch parameter --enable-debug-gui

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 12:39 AM

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ooh

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hmm I've got a log but it's not showing anything

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or rather, not showing the stuff I'm logging

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oh wait nvm, it was just udon not compiling again

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e-e

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alright I think I'm stumped. it's logging and showing the position and rotation of my headset just fine, but when I try to feed those exact same values into Transform.SetPositionAndRotation() it just moves it to 0,0,0

kind knot Apr 21, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Question: Do udon scripts still run when an object is inactive?

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When the object it is on

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 2:01 AM

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yes and no

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default events stop firing (update, interact, etc) but custom events will still fire

kind knot Apr 21, 2020, 2:01 AM

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ok thanks 😄

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 2:01 AM

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so if you want to turn something off for performance make sure custom events stop getting sent to it as well

kind knot Apr 21, 2020, 2:02 AM

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yee, I was just wondering cause im having an object get enabled/disabled based on a collider bound

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 2:02 AM

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ahh yea

kind knot Apr 21, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Since the check is done on update im gonna have a secondary object that will handle the enabling/disabling

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now to figure out the best way to give a color selection to a user without using the UI system, and instead using colliders...

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 2:16 AM

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is there any way to reliably compile an udon graph? the button doesn't seem to do anything when I click it and the auto compile just counts down into negative numbers forever

fiery yoke Apr 21, 2020, 2:19 AM

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@jagged crow Enter playmode, exit playmode, then compile

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 2:19 AM

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thanks :D

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debugging is incredibly hard when you cant tell if your changes are actually getting applied or not haha

fiery yoke Apr 21, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Thats why almost no one (that isnt a complete beginner) uses other compilers like UdonSharp or UdonPie :^)

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 2:21 AM

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yeah I'm thinking it might be time for me to ditch graphs

tame matrix Apr 21, 2020, 2:21 AM

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you can put a little debug log on start and change it whenever you make any changes

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 2:21 AM

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ahh thats a good idea

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wow yep

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for the past several hours I've been trying to figure out why my graph wasn't working

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turns out the graph was right the whole time, it just wasn't compiling properly @.@

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/rage

fiery yoke Apr 21, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Been there, done that

floral dove Apr 21, 2020, 2:58 AM

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👀 I can usually force a recompile with Reload > Manual Compile but I could see how some visual feedback would be very helpful.

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 3:07 AM

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I think part of the issue was the noodles connecting my head tracking data to the transform function were visually connected in the graph but when it compiled it was using the numbers I put in beforehand instead

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and when I made a new one it just used 0s cause that's the default

bright grotto Apr 21, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Assets/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/Scripts/ShaderStripping/StripPostProcessing.cs(10,30): error CS1644: Feature `expression bodied members' cannot be used because it is not part of the C# 4.0 language specification

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what should i do ?

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i cant find control panel inside vrchat sdk

fiery yoke Apr 21, 2020, 4:35 AM

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@bright grotto Pinned Messages: PhaxeNor

bright grotto Apr 21, 2020, 4:45 AM

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there is NET 4.6

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and i did that but same problem

native estuary Apr 21, 2020, 5:26 AM

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That means you are on the wrong unity version

bright grotto Apr 21, 2020, 6:36 AM

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2017.4.28f1

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i ll kill myself

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so, what should i do now ?

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i tried everything

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i reinstalled unity

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i changed the project

native estuary Apr 21, 2020, 6:40 AM

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You should install 2018.4.20f1 because it won't work in 2017 because how old the scripting runtime there is

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 7:01 AM

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Will any null instance reference be "smart" and find the instance for the object the behaviour is on, or does that only work for GameObject, Transform, and UdonBehaviour?

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I feel like I heard those three mentioned specifically somewhere but I can't remember

reef acorn Apr 21, 2020, 7:04 AM

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I figured out how to teleport a person to a specific location or in relation to an objects location (I think) but I can't freaking figure out how to teleport a player up on the y-axis from where they are standing, give me a pointer plx?

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 7:04 AM

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get their position, add a vector with positive y to it, then teleport them to that location

fiery yoke Apr 21, 2020, 7:10 AM

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@jagged crow The Graph automatically assigns exactly the three components you mentioned and those only automatically if no reference is given

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 7:11 AM

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ahh okay, thanks

reef acorn Apr 21, 2020, 7:11 AM

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like this? sorry lol, am very new

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jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 7:12 AM

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why do you assign the player to a variable?

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that looks correct though

reef acorn Apr 21, 2020, 7:13 AM

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is "player" not the location of a character? I've tried a couple of variations and stuff but it never works to just send me up on y-axis

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ah.. idk

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hmm

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you mean I can just connect Networking get local player to instance?

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 7:14 AM

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yeah

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where you have "get variable player"

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just replace that with networking get local player

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dont need to assign the player variable

reef acorn Apr 21, 2020, 7:15 AM

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if I do that my udon noodle turns orange

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 7:15 AM

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I'm not sure the significance of the colours, I don't think that's an issue though

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I just know white noodles are flow haha

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oh also I would avoid having floating nodes that aren't connected to anything

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Will make your program harder to understand when you come back to it later

reef acorn Apr 21, 2020, 7:18 AM

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weird thing is if I set the teleport rotation that does work, but my avatar isn't teleporting up to the sky

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 7:18 AM

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hmmm

twilit breach Apr 21, 2020, 7:23 AM

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keep it how it is and try this. click file - save in top left, then click play in editor in top middle (after it loads and turns blue click play again to stop), then find your udon script in the asset folder and click open graph in the inspector on the right. then bring your mouse into the udon screen in the middle and wait for auto compile. then press manual compile once. then press file - save again. then try

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 7:23 AM

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yeah its possible you're having the exact same issue I was today, actually getting my graph to compile xD

twilit breach Apr 21, 2020, 7:24 AM

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its literally part of my work flow now. I don't trust compile at all anymore lmao

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 7:28 AM

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yeah I just threw this together and it works as expected so either it's a compiling issue or some of those floating nodes are causing errors. @reef acorn

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bright grotto Apr 21, 2020, 7:48 AM

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upper wharf Apr 21, 2020, 7:52 AM

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what is your problem with this.?oO

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 8:34 AM

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Hmm, ran into an interesting issue. Not sure if bug or intended?

Using two copies of GameObject.GetComponent like in this screenshot works fine, but if I try to feed the output of just one of them into both Text.SetText nodes, the second one fails to activate.

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but in other places I'm able to feed output from one node into multiple other nodes just fine

reef acorn Apr 21, 2020, 8:42 AM

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Dinky, Shaun thnx it was the manual compile

mortal star Apr 21, 2020, 10:10 AM

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to someone who was mentioning Udon graphs don't compiling... Holy I was banging my head on a wall why the heck it was not working, going to PLay mode and manually compiling totally worked

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thank you a lot for telling that

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it finnaly works

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green plinth Apr 21, 2020, 12:03 PM

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So i am frequently getting a Assembly Error "Cannot jump to an unaligned address '0x********', Jump target must be 4-byte aligned boundaries" Anyone know what this is all about (what causing it)? Because it gotten to the point where if i make one more connection to anything at all i get this error as if there a limit to how many i can set.

sharp fossil Apr 21, 2020, 12:07 PM

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but with base udon or something else? like you are using some different compiler tike UdonSharp or making own compiler or something?

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if normal graph udon one then probably check on canny if there is already bug about this... as even if its intended then it probably should give better error than that, but idk then.

reef acorn Apr 21, 2020, 12:45 PM

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How do you trigger something not by interacting but by walking into an area?

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do you have to set a collider on the floor and a collider on the player or make like a 3D box collider instead of an object or what?

sharp fossil Apr 21, 2020, 12:48 PM

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thats one of ways, and probably one of best... you could also just check if position is between some set bounds manually once a while... but especially with current udon performance its pretty bad idea, so colliders + event sounds better.

reef acorn Apr 21, 2020, 12:51 PM

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OnAvatarHit is OnEnterCollider, but specifically used when you want to detect collisions between player and your object. This is needed due to OnCollider not working with avatar layer.

ow cool

reef acorn Apr 21, 2020, 1:55 PM

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ow wait, that was the solution for non-udon?

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hmm...

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is there a version of OnAvatarHit in udon I wonder

fiery yoke Apr 21, 2020, 1:59 PM

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@reef acorn https://ask.vrchat.com/t/player-collision-in-udon/428 Best way I know of

VRChat Udon Discussion Forum

Player Collision in Udon

If you want to make something happen when the player collides with a trigger, e.g. runs into an area or touches some object, you will have to detect that collision. This is the setup that I use: Create a new layer and call it something like “OnlyCollideLocal” In your P...

green plinth Apr 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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@reef acorn onenter-collider/trigger i believe are both valid, if i am not mistaken it is just that the unity update changed how layers detect interactions with players Follow the guide that Helper mentioned and it will work fine.

stray junco Apr 21, 2020, 2:43 PM

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hi all

is there a way to shrink i mean
zoom out the UDON Graph node's ?

reef acorn Apr 21, 2020, 3:09 PM

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I noticed setting your resolution higher does the trick but other than that not sure

boreal plaza Apr 21, 2020, 3:36 PM

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How to make something pickupable using udon?

fiery yoke Apr 21, 2020, 3:37 PM

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Theres a seperate script for that called VRC Pickup (maybe with an underscore not sure)

boreal plaza Apr 21, 2020, 3:37 PM

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I used that but the position of the object were local. So I added a udon script and crossed the box for syncing the position but then it was no longer pickupable

fiery yoke Apr 21, 2020, 3:38 PM

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It needs some form of program source, add the Empty graph that comes with the SDK

boreal plaza Apr 21, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Just an empty udon graph?

fiery yoke Apr 21, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Yeah there is one in the SDK, just click the circle icon and search for "Empty"

boreal plaza Apr 21, 2020, 3:39 PM

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ok I wil ltry that, thx

proper oar Apr 21, 2020, 4:19 PM

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can some one tell me how to setup the combat

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vagrant coral Apr 21, 2020, 5:03 PM

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will multible udon behaviours on one object be a problem?

grand temple Apr 21, 2020, 5:20 PM

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in some cases, yes

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it's definitely unpredictable at best

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udonsharp has ways to slightly mitigate it but I would still completely avoid it just to be safe

boreal plaza Apr 21, 2020, 5:23 PM

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I would guess it is compatible, just that the risks of errors would be multiplied with the nr of scripts :P

vagrant coral Apr 21, 2020, 5:24 PM

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@grand temple thanks that makes sense

boreal plaza Apr 21, 2020, 5:24 PM

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I'm just a noob though so haven't tried it. Still trying to figure out how to make stuff pickup-able without falling through the world or stuck in place, and still synced for everyone

grand temple Apr 21, 2020, 5:25 PM

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sort of. It's more about what you're trying to do. If the scripts are only outputting, then they'll probably be fine. Though I think ownership can be problematic. If you're trying to pass variables and events from one script to another, that won't work.

green plinth Apr 21, 2020, 6:03 PM

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@proper oar it looks good to me apart from one thing, you forgot to link what player to change the hitpoints for (functions same as reading/get).

proper oar Apr 21, 2020, 6:41 PM

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still dosent work

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having to behaviors on on object was the issue

scarlet lake Apr 21, 2020, 9:19 PM

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i created an avatar with a still emote that stays but all the textures changed to just purple after i did it, any way to fix?

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jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 9:23 PM

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#avatars-2-general @scarlet lake

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hey I vaguely recall seeing a spreadsheet where somebody had gathered all the different controller inputs you can use with udon

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anyone have a link to that

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 10:04 PM

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found it :D https://discordapp.com/channels/189511567539306508/657394772603830360/701761006627717222

scarlet lake Apr 21, 2020, 10:09 PM

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holy fuck thanks m8 love you

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 10:58 PM

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do events have to be sent directly to another behaviour or can they be broadcast globally?

floral dove Apr 21, 2020, 11:03 PM

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@jagged crow - they need to be sent directly

flat rose Apr 21, 2020, 11:16 PM

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@floral dove When I go to join a world it just sends me back to my world can you help please.

floral dove Apr 21, 2020, 11:16 PM

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@flat rose you probably want #vrchat-support

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 11:16 PM

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is taking multiple noodles from the flow output of an event node valid?

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the ui doesn't stop me from doing it but it seems like it might cause issues

flat rose Apr 21, 2020, 11:17 PM

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i have but I haven't got a reply in over a week

floral dove Apr 21, 2020, 11:17 PM

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@jagged crow it is now, yes

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 11:17 PM

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oh nice

floral dove Apr 21, 2020, 11:17 PM

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oh wait, multiple outs I'm not 100% on. I know we got multiple-ins working, which is helpful.

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but...probably?

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 11:18 PM

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maybe I should just use a block node

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to be safe

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haha

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also man I really wish I could manually draw noodles

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having them cross on top of nodes is so ugly

floral dove Apr 21, 2020, 11:21 PM

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yeah, I spend too much time reorganizing my nodes

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@flat rose you can also try #user-support-old

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 11:27 PM

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oh hey is the graph compile bug known?

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seems to be tripping up a lot of people

flint urchin Apr 21, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Thank Momo btw for marking the canny for player audio override as planned! Only thing we're waiting for to fully go over to Udon on the Community Meetup event world :]

floral dove Apr 21, 2020, 11:34 PM

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@flint urchin thanks for reporting it! We have to make it completely different than SDK2 so it's not a simple fix but it's high priority.

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@jagged crow - meaning the inconsistency in compiling and how it's hard to tell when you've recompiled, or something else?

flat rose Apr 21, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Hey I need help ASAP When I go to join a world it just takes me back to my home please could someone help

dawn oxide Apr 21, 2020, 11:39 PM

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https://youtu.be/NnHfPqGRMDw

So I was wondering if it were possible to create this type of gate with udon this way or if it were possible to enter an already made Gate with teleportation in the next time I post. (1:37-2:37 is the first time for the reference) (4:46-4:56 is the second reference for teleporting)

YouTube

XHolyPuffX

Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - The Second Gate of Time [HD]

Using the Master Sword, Link activates the stone pillar in the Sealed Temple and opens another Gate of Time that leads thousands of years into the past.

▶ Play video

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 11:39 PM

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@floral dove yeah clicking the compile button doesn't always work, automatic compiling doesn't always work (sometimes it counts into negative seconds forever instead of autosaving at 0), sometimes it will partially compile but what you get isn't actually what your graph looks like (Yesterday I had an issue where a parameter of a node was using what was previously typed into the text box instead of the noodle that was attached to it)

flint urchin Apr 21, 2020, 11:40 PM

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@dawn oxide All that is animations. Don't need Udon to create that look for a gate.

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 11:40 PM

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the workaround of hitting the play button and stopping it and then compiling seems to be pretty reliable but that's obviously not ideal haha

floral dove Apr 21, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Hey @flat rose - that's not what this channel is for, you've been told twice now.

dawn oxide Apr 21, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Yea cause I already made a moving animation of a gear the same way in the video but everything before the gear when it starts forming is something I would like to see possible the minute the player interacts with it

floral dove Apr 21, 2020, 11:46 PM

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yeah @jagged crow - it catches me too. We're discussing ways to improve the communication of compilation state like UI feedback, and of course trying to catch some of these edge cases.

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 11:49 PM

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sweet :D

floral dove Apr 21, 2020, 11:51 PM

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@jagged crow - let me know if you ever figure out something that reliably causes an issue where something doesn't compile until you Play/Stop. It's a hard one for us to reproduce at the moment.

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 11:52 PM

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yeah Ill def let you guys know if I find something specific

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its hard cause im learning vrchat and udon and unity at the same time lol

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dunno when i did something wrong or found a bug

floral dove Apr 21, 2020, 11:54 PM

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haha yeah, that's a lot of unknowns to be figuring out at the same time.

jagged crow Apr 21, 2020, 11:54 PM

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super satisfying tho

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i got a debug hud working for live variable display :D

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still working on the controller detection stuff tho haha

floral dove Apr 22, 2020, 12:04 AM

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nice!

solid cairn Apr 22, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Anyone else have issues with trying to run the scene in play mode, and Udon trying to scan every single asset in your project, regardless of whether they're in the scene or not?

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I get some import issues when importing a large package from the asset store, it takes a while, but after that, I can hit play at any time to start the project. however, if SDK3 is in my project, every time I hit play, it acts like it wants to reimport everything again, chokes on all the errors, and takes several minutes to start.

jagged crow Apr 22, 2020, 12:47 AM

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...I'm an idiot

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welp, that solves the mystery of "why the heck won't this thing work???" 🙄

jagged crow Apr 22, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Hmm, I wonder if that's the udon equivalent of forgetting a semicolon

tough junco Apr 22, 2020, 2:25 AM

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so i have my world set to respawn at -10 but when items fall out of them map they dont respawn and keep falling, does anyone know how to fix this?

fiery yoke Apr 22, 2020, 3:09 AM

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@jagged crow That is more of an equivalent to writing a method and never calling it. Forgetting a semicolon wouldnt even compile.

grand temple Apr 22, 2020, 4:24 AM

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@tough junco are your objects synced? The respawn height only applies to synced objects. It they aren't you'll have to make your own respawn system

jagged crow Apr 22, 2020, 4:32 AM

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haha yeah thats a better analogy

tough junco Apr 22, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Yeah I got it fixed, thanks for the help!

tough junco Apr 22, 2020, 5:37 AM

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follow up question, how do i make a button reset the position of moveable items, or teleport them downwards so they respawn?

jagged crow Apr 22, 2020, 5:56 AM

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are they dynamically spawned or are they placed in the scene by hand? @tough junco

tough junco Apr 22, 2020, 5:56 AM

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they are objects ive placed

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basically its a bowling alley and i want a button to reset the pins to their original positions

jagged crow Apr 22, 2020, 5:57 AM

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should be pretty easy to send a "respawn" custom event to them

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have you followed the cube example series

tough junco Apr 22, 2020, 5:57 AM

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whats that?

jagged crow Apr 22, 2020, 5:57 AM

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https://ask.vrchat.com/t/spinning-cube-example-series/81

VRChat Udon Discussion Forum

Spinning Cube Example Series

We’ve got a set of videos here for you to check out to get you started in Udon and with some basic concepts. Let’s meet the VRChat Udon version of Hello World-- the spinning cube! Video 1 - Introduction Video 2 - Input and Flow Video 3 - Public Variables Video 4 - Program ...

floral dove Apr 22, 2020, 6:00 AM

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This is how I do resets in my AirBlaster world:

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On Start, save this transform's position and rotation to variables.
On Custom Event 'reset', Move them to these stored variables. Also reset their velocities to 0 (only needed for RigidBodies)

jagged crow Apr 22, 2020, 6:17 AM

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do you need to do anything special in udon to make an object pickupable

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I put the vrc pickup script on a cube but it didnt do anything

jagged crow Apr 22, 2020, 6:34 AM

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oh pff I'm dumb, the Pickupable property was disabled

tough junco Apr 22, 2020, 9:05 AM

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so i tried recreating that code but i have no idea how to use it now, or connect it to a button

azure bolt Apr 22, 2020, 12:21 PM

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I would like to put a logo in my world to show that I created it with udon, can I download it?
I want transparent PNG data.

fiery yoke Apr 22, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Its in the Resources folder in the SDK

azure bolt Apr 22, 2020, 1:34 PM

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I found it.
Thank you, sir.

light fjord Apr 22, 2020, 1:54 PM

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does anyone here know if its possible to do a custom script in udon? that uses c#?

fiery yoke Apr 22, 2020, 2:26 PM

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@light fjord Thats not how Udon works. Udon uses byte code in a custom assembly. The graph compiles nodes into that assembly. HOWEVER there is a custom compiler called "UdonSharp" that compiles C# code into Udon Assembly. https://github.com/Merlin-san/UdonSharp/releases

GitHub

Merlin-san/UdonSharp

An experimental compiler for compiling C# to Udon assembly - Merlin-san/UdonSharp

light fjord Apr 22, 2020, 2:32 PM

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@fiery yoke so your telling me that that i could create a c# script in unity and convert it to udon?

fiery yoke Apr 22, 2020, 2:32 PM

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In a way. Its obviously limited to what Udon can, and its not the exact same as writing a C# script for Unity. But its the closes you will get.

light fjord Apr 22, 2020, 2:35 PM

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i see

light fjord Apr 22, 2020, 3:12 PM

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@fiery yoke can this one also do the networked part?

torpid badge Apr 22, 2020, 3:12 PM

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I have a pickup item that changes a synced bool when the trigger is pressed down (pickup use down), which works, but only the master can use it when holding it. Is there a way to make it work for anyone who is holding it? Leaving the bool unsynced works, but then it's local to the holder only and doesn't work for others. Thanks for any advice 🙂

fiery yoke Apr 22, 2020, 3:12 PM

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@light fjord It cant emulate the network. But you can use the same methods to send custom network events...

light fjord Apr 22, 2020, 3:13 PM

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and as same methods i assume u mean the once u find in udon?

fiery yoke Apr 22, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Well yeah.

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As I said. It compiles C# into UdonAssembly

light fjord Apr 22, 2020, 3:13 PM

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ye

boreal plaza Apr 22, 2020, 3:16 PM

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Greetings! This should allow me to spawn in more objects by pressing a button, no?

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By cloning an existing obj

twilit breach Apr 22, 2020, 3:20 PM

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Instantiate is currently not supported over the network yet though, so even a good graph won't work when things get online

flint urchin Apr 22, 2020, 3:21 PM

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@torpid badge you got to set the user that picks it up as the owner (Network SetOwner)

boreal plaza Apr 22, 2020, 3:23 PM

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@shy notch , So should I use udonsharp for that stuff instead?

torpid badge Apr 22, 2020, 3:23 PM

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@flint urchin How can I do that when the user picks it up? I tried adding that for OnPickup but (because they aren't the owner?) it didn't change anything. Also shouldn't the person picking up a pickup object be made owner automatically?

twilit breach Apr 22, 2020, 3:33 PM

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I don't think Udon Sharp would make a difference. We all just kinda waiting on the hardworking folks at VRChat to shore up that bit. For now most of us have been making due by spawning items in the corner in a box and teleporting instead of spawning. if you need more than one you'll have to do some kind of adding variable to not tp the first one. If you want to do a lot it's gonna suck

boreal plaza Apr 22, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Ah I see. So teleporting existing items it is then!

twilit breach Apr 22, 2020, 3:34 PM

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yup yup

torn quail Apr 22, 2020, 3:48 PM

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hey guys. any idea whats the node name to change an object layer on event?

fiery yoke Apr 22, 2020, 3:51 PM

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something like GameObject.set layer

torn quail Apr 22, 2020, 3:52 PM

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found thanks!

flint urchin Apr 22, 2020, 4:01 PM

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@torpid badge then it could be a possible bug with ownership and sync vars.

torpid badge Apr 22, 2020, 4:02 PM

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@flint urchin The bool was for another Udon item on the pickup, needed to give ownership to the lower item manually, thanks 🙂

boreal plaza Apr 22, 2020, 4:10 PM

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So I removed gravity of an object but when dropped it floats away. Is this a thing that is can be turned off in udon? because I cannot find anything about this anywhere

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literally wants it to stay in place as soon as it is dropped

torpid badge Apr 22, 2020, 4:28 PM

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@boreal plaza on the rigidbody the option Is Kinemetic can be turned on to stop the physics if that's what you're looking for

boreal plaza Apr 22, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Oh.. was wondering what that did lol. thx

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 5:26 PM

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ok, i got somthing a little bit complicated i wanted to ask, ill first display the code, describe what its supposed to do and what its doing

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so variables: https://gyazo.com/8a9d9e7b9e9b8e7484acb2399a9c7e8a

Gyazo

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code: https://gyazo.com/b36342b7ee1532a647da2ef109141dca

Gyazo

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so, what its supposed to do, i have a set a spheres, when a player loads in, its meant to parrent that sphere to a gameobject that is tracking their hand. The intent is that each player will have their own sphere upon loading in

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what its doing, when you load you're hit with a big lag spike. If you're the first player youll get the first sphere attached to your hand. If you're the second player you don't get any spheres, and youll see the other player with a sphere attached to their hand

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also the spheres have it set to sync position, so the 2nd player will see the first moving the sphere with their hand

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i have the boolean value canceling out the loop, so i dont know why there's such a huge lag spike, also im not sure if i'm going about this the wrong way

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can anyone tell me why this lag spike is occuring or where i messed up in my code?

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also, the currentPlayers variable used to incriment by 1 per player joining, now its just 0

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im starting to think i should just give up on the visual scripting portion and switch to udon sharp >.<

floral dove Apr 22, 2020, 5:59 PM

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@worthy beacon the lag spike is likely due to that While loop running. I'm trying to follow your flow and there's a lot going on here. Did you get this working piece by piece or did you build it all at once?

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 6:06 PM

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piece by piece

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so with the while loop, it has an and condition, either when i reaches 30 or the isAssigned is set to true, it should break the loop

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which is why im confused because the first person who joins should get that value set and break the loop

floral dove Apr 22, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Here's my attempt at following your logic in Pseudo-Code:
When a player joins, increment currentPlayers by one.
If 'hasAssigned' is false, then set 'i' to 0.
While hasAssigned is false and i < the isUsed array length:
Check if isUsed[i] is true. If it is, then increment 'i';
If isUsed[i] is false (so this number has not been assigned yet), then set 'myNumber' to 'i'.
After setting myNumber, then get spheres[myNumber], make it a child of the 'rightTracker' variable, set its local position to (0,0,0), and its local rotation to (0,0,0,0).
Then set isUsed[myNumber] to true, and set hasAssigned to true.
On Update, set the numPlayersOutput TextField to i, and the myNumberOutput TextField to myNumber.

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 6:11 PM

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ya

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that is correct

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which the update is mainly output values so i can see whats going on, the currentPlayers was origonaly used for numPlayersOutput

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but i wanted to see if i was getting to 30, it wasnt

floral dove Apr 22, 2020, 6:13 PM

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So - hasAssigned is never set back to false. I don't know offhand if OnPlayerJoined fires only for the local player or if it fires for each player.

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 6:13 PM

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through my tests it will fire for you and new players joining

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so you get one when you first spawn, and another for another player spawning

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and that player will get one for spawning

floral dove Apr 22, 2020, 6:14 PM

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ok - then you'll want to set hasAssigned to false before you do the while loop, right?

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otherwise it will be 'true' going into that loop after the first one?

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 6:14 PM

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well, techniqually, it will be defaulted to false, and by being true should prevent a second reoccurance of the loop

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so, this is how i was assuming it works: You spawn in, hasAssigned is false you get a ball assigned. New player spawns in, for you this loop will see hasAssigned is true so it ignores the loop. For the new person hasAassigned is false so it goes into the loop

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which sure enough, it only has the lag spike when you first enter the world

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unless im misunderstanding how sync is supposed to work....

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hasAssigned should be a local value, ie should not update the same accross all players

floral dove Apr 22, 2020, 6:20 PM

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I might be wrong about it, but it's worth a quick test if you're stuck otherwise. Maybe just log the value on players when they join and make sure it's what you expect? If I were building this system, I would make sure that each player is getting a good myNumber before messing with the sphere transforms and whatnot.

gray kestrel Apr 22, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Hello. I didn’t know who to contact for this. My user name on VrChat Does not work therefore I’m not able to log into my account. Do you know a way I can fix this problem?

floral dove Apr 22, 2020, 6:21 PM

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@gray kestrel - for VRChat support, please visit #vrchat-support or #user-support-old

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 6:22 PM

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actually on that note, is there a way to use a debugger, like output to console? Ive been using uiText output, though its a lot of elements just to output a value

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and ya, ill try outputing some of the key elements on the on player joined event, see what they looks like

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im also still confused how it successfuly assigns the first ball to the first player, yet in the process has the huge lag spike, but doesnt assign any of the other balls

floral dove Apr 22, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Yep! Launch VRChat with the following flags: "--enable-debug-gui --enable-sdk-log-levels --enable-udon-debug-logging". Then you can press RightShift ` 3 to turn the debug overlay on and off

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 6:30 PM

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alrighty, ill try that in the near futre

floral dove Apr 22, 2020, 6:30 PM

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then anything you Debug.Log will show up

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 6:30 PM

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also....im curious if they way im testing might be mucking this up?

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so i upload the world, then i run build and test with 2 clients. I logout with one and change it to my test account. i then have my main account create a new world from the freshly built world, and have my test account join me in that world

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so im running both on my computer

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im doing this so i can test the sync without bugging friends to help me with every build

shy notch Apr 22, 2020, 6:46 PM

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@boreal plaza what?

boreal plaza Apr 22, 2020, 6:50 PM

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What

floral dove Apr 22, 2020, 6:57 PM

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@worthy beacon I believe that to test Network sync stuff you need to do the above but 'Build & Publish' your world instead of 'Build & Test'.

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 6:59 PM

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yes, thats what i ment with upload the world, i do a build and publish

uncut coral Apr 22, 2020, 7:35 PM

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@flint urchin Why is your trigger "Toggle Object" bigger than the udon example toggle trigger?

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What does yours diffrently then the example

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I'm still learning Udon

flint urchin Apr 22, 2020, 7:41 PM

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@uncut coral That example is using a UI, mine is for your general gameobject

uncut coral Apr 22, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Ahh, that is amazing

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Thanks for the explanation

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 7:44 PM

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@floral dove i rigged up some outputs, and this is getting me even more confused now

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so the current players is displaying on update, it incriments by one per loadplayers, yet, its still 0 no mater what

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the isUsed is never set to true, even tho the ball is positioned correctly

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and the hasassigned value is always false, i had an output for it set for right before the check to determine if its true or not

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so either the player joined is not called on the client at all, or somthing wonky is going on with the code

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alsoI have my number output right before setting the ball, its always 0

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so...is the playerJoined called from the server or the client side?

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either that or when you set a value on a syncornized value from a on load players event, its not setting it synconously....

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tho i still dont get the my assigned output then...

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 8:00 PM

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I got a particle to collide with a Player!
now how would one get the PlayerAPI from a particle Collison

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worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 8:03 PM

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i did it this way https://gyazo.com/cdefcc575870e471d108f37b96f42066

Gyazo

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so you get a game object form the collision, and you do a gameObject.getComponnentInChildren with the type being a player

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 8:36 PM

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i did a debug, apparently my hasAssigned value never gets set to true

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Thanks but i just found out that On Particle Collision dosent even get called

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 8:37 PM

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oof

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also i was talking about my current issue

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on the hasAssigned thing

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 8:37 PM

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wdm

floral dove Apr 22, 2020, 8:38 PM

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that's a good start @worthy beacon - so my next question would be: 'Does the While Loop ever return false'?

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 8:39 PM

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well, if hasAssigned doesnt get set, and i doesnt get set, then no, itll never be false

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which is why its lagging a bunch in the beggining

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this is how i should set a bool to true right? https://gyazo.com/404de2003be20d4329e99bd3877bde63

Gyazo

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 8:42 PM

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it looks good

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 8:42 PM

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lemme build it again, maybe it failed to build again

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 8:43 PM

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could it be that it get set to false somewhere else

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 8:44 PM

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it sets it to true right before the output

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im also gonna lessen the size of the boolean array, hopefully if i can get i to set right htat should get somthing going as well

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 8:46 PM

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how dose on aktivat the debug menu?

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right shift ´ 3 dosent work

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 8:48 PM

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add these tags to the launch options "--enable-debug-gui --enable-sdk-log-levels --enable-udon-debug-logging"

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 8:48 PM

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i did

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 8:49 PM

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make sure you click the vrchat window before putting in the keys

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if it isnt active the debug doesnt work

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 8:49 PM

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witch vrchat window?

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 8:50 PM

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the game

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 8:51 PM

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im tabed in

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 8:51 PM

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click it with your mouse

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 8:51 PM

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and then?

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 8:51 PM

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right shift + ` + 3

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 8:53 PM

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im on a german key board might that be the issue

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 8:53 PM

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ok, rebuilt it....and learned hasAssigned is actualy set to true in the loop

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 8:54 PM

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nice

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 8:54 PM

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thats a problem, because that should end the loop, it doesnt

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 8:54 PM

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oh

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 8:55 PM

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this is the logic i have for the while loop https://gyazo.com/79dec8c2abc5bcc4a751416e29928817

Gyazo

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so it should run while i is less then the length of the array, or hasAssigned is true

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it gets set to true on the first iteration, and loops indefinatly

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a while loop should execute until the condition is false

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mine is basicly: while(i < isUsed.length && !myassigned)

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im gonna put a debug on myAssigned at the beginning and end of the loop, and see if it alters

floral dove Apr 22, 2020, 8:58 PM

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FYI when you run 'Build and Test' it will inject all the debugging stuff for you

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 8:59 PM

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oh nice 😄

floral dove Apr 22, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Hm - since you're using the While to iterate over an array, I wonder if it might be more straightforward to use a For loop

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 9:00 PM

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why is my debug menu not working

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 9:00 PM

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so i was gonna use a for loop, but i didnt know how to exit the loop

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i didnt want it to iterate more times then it should

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 9:01 PM

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for loop ends automaticly

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 9:01 PM

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yes, but you can usually use like a break or exit line to end it prematurly

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it makes it so you execute less lines of code

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for instance, with how i had the while loop set, this should only execute the if statment for the while loop once

unreal field Apr 22, 2020, 9:02 PM

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I just started Udon and you guys are nuts from the stuff I see created with it here

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 9:03 PM

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i started only last week XD

unreal field Apr 22, 2020, 9:03 PM

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I can barely open a door and you guys got jetpacks wtf

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 9:03 PM

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i press these buttons

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dosent work

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 9:06 PM

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welp.......so much for trying to help XD

zenith river Apr 22, 2020, 9:11 PM

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bot doesn't like helping people

floral dove Apr 22, 2020, 9:18 PM

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@worthy beacon yeah, it would be nice to have a 'continue' option in the for loop. Can't do that with the graph yet.

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@proper oar - hm, what is the button you're pressing in the upper-left?

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 9:19 PM

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ill switch to the for loop tho if i cant get the while loop to work

floral dove Apr 22, 2020, 9:20 PM

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oh you're not pressing that button, it's just highlighted, got it

tough junco Apr 22, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Is it possible that if you teleport an item to low it wont respawn?

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I set the button to teleport items to -10 and they keep falling instead of respawning, but if you throw them off the edge they respawn

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 9:39 PM

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@floral dove i got it to work but i had to switch my keyboard to us mode in windows it dosent like german key boards

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 9:41 PM

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did some rearranging, the loop now only executes once but still has that harsh lag at the beginning

floral dove Apr 22, 2020, 9:42 PM

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@proper oar that sounds like a hassle, sorry. You're welcome to file a feature request with a suggestion on a different set of keys we could use that would map to your keyboard more easily.

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 9:42 PM

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the debug also says the udon code was halted

floral dove Apr 22, 2020, 9:43 PM

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@worthy beacon - iterating through arrays is currently pretty slow in Udon, unfortunately

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oh, then it might be a different issue

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 9:44 PM

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so i had a debug at the beginning of the while loop outputing the hasAssigned, it was false, then it goes through the whole process and gets to the very end for the second debug of the same value, it was true

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so that worked out well, i dont have anything on the execute....so i dont know why it lags or breaks

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i could probly put some debugs on the exit loop to see where things are at

tough junco Apr 22, 2020, 9:47 PM

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So I've narrowed it down to now when I click the button the first time it does teleport the items to the kill floor and respawns them, but it only works for the first time and any presses after that dont work

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It's almost like when the objects respawn they aren't connected to the button anymore

torn quail Apr 22, 2020, 9:48 PM

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guys im trying for a while now to make an object ignore any world collision when its picked up, and have the collision back when its dropped, but i cant find any way to do it. i tried to do it with setting different layer when picked up and change it back when it dropped but it doesnt seem like it actually work. maybe theres a function to ignore collision all together? could do that with changing a tag and then set it back

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heres the udon script i tried to use

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worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 9:52 PM

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jw, why do you have branches before hand? is it to disable the effect in debugging?

torn quail Apr 22, 2020, 9:52 PM

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honestly idk if i actually need them or not. i used them from an old script that i duplicated

dark raft Apr 22, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Has anybody documented what all the methods under VRC.SDKBase.Networking actually do? some are pretty cryptic like CalculateServerDeltaTime or GetUniqueName

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 9:55 PM

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well as is you're branching, which will go to ture or false based on the boolean, but its set to false

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so basicly, its gonna do nothing

tough junco Apr 22, 2020, 9:55 PM

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worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 9:55 PM

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i assume it was there so you can have a condition which would set to true when you want the layer to change

torn quail Apr 22, 2020, 9:56 PM

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ill remove them then

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it suppose to change on pick up and back on drop

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 9:56 PM

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ya, which you have the two different events to rep that

torn quail Apr 22, 2020, 9:56 PM

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but still no idea why it wont ignore the collision. set it to ignore everything on project settings

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 9:58 PM

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to ignore collision, you need to first figure what layers to ignore and look at your physics settings, technically doing this through the layer method means you make it ignore collision as it pertains to layers

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so if you want it to ignore the world and players, as most of the time people have the worlds set to default, you want a layer that ignores the default layer and the player layer

torn quail Apr 22, 2020, 9:58 PM

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yeah i tried to do that

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 9:59 PM

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you could create a new layer, and make it ignore everything, then set it to that layer number

torn quail Apr 22, 2020, 9:59 PM

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is this ok? (the custom layer is Weapons, and it goes back to pickup on drop)

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worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 9:59 PM

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ah, so you would be setting it to the weapons layer

torn quail Apr 22, 2020, 9:59 PM

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yep ^^

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but it still wont ignore the collisions

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 10:00 PM

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ya, without the branch it should actually set the layers now

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i havnt messed with it enough to know how thats gonna work

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i noticed once when i did the same thing, it behaved properly, i did another build and suddenly it was sending me flying despite it not supposed to be colliding with players

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 10:01 PM

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my update dosent work anymore

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 10:02 PM

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np!

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 10:03 PM

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wait no its not the update the my udon doesn't compile anymore

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it stopped compiling completely

torn quail Apr 22, 2020, 10:06 PM

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did you delete the 2 old folders of VRCSDK and Udon from Assets folder?

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try to remove them, including their meta files and reimport them

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also make sure you have the latest SDK. they updated it few times these last days

proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 10:08 PM

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it just one udon behavior that dose this

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 10:09 PM

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so....i think what might be going on is once the loop of the while loop tries to start again, its getting some big error, and just quiting o.O

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dunno what error tho

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im gonna try a for loop, and just make it ignore the code if myassigned has been set, itll kinda suck because it means in the end product it will have to loop 29 more times for the first person

hidden martenBOT Apr 22, 2020, 10:10 PM

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@torn quail You're sending messages too quick!

torn quail Apr 22, 2020, 10:11 PM

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ok removed the branch. it will go through objects but still somehow collide with them lol

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 10:12 PM

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XD

tough junco Apr 22, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Does anyone know how to help with my thing?

torn quail Apr 22, 2020, 10:19 PM

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what do you need?

tough junco Apr 22, 2020, 10:20 PM

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I have a button set up that teleports objects below the map so that they can respawn, but when the respawn the buttons stops working, so you can only respawn them once

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I sent a picture of the udon graph a little bit ago in the chat

torn quail Apr 22, 2020, 10:23 PM

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idk much about udon but this is the teleport script i use and its working fine. you could try that out. the object that you use the script on will be the button and the object that you attach will be the coordinates to teleport to according to the object's tranform position

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tough junco Apr 22, 2020, 10:24 PM

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I'll give it a shot

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 10:31 PM

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i switched to the for loop, its way faster, no lag, and i get exit output

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i think the while loop is bugged

gentle halo Apr 22, 2020, 10:44 PM

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so im making a teleport player script and this is what i got, i dont want to make it where its interactable (thats there as a place holder) how would i make it where once you collide with it you get teleported? just got kinda lost there. Thanks so much for the help in advance!

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proper oar Apr 22, 2020, 10:50 PM

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try on collider enter

torn quail Apr 22, 2020, 10:50 PM

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there should be onCollisionEnter or something like that

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yeah exactly lol. so thats your trigger for the event instead of the interact

tough junco Apr 22, 2020, 10:52 PM

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I tried using that block code and the button didnt do anything

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Do I need to change something to make it teleport somewhere else?

torn quail Apr 22, 2020, 10:53 PM

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did you add an empty game object to set the teleport location and assigned it to the udon script?

flint urchin Apr 22, 2020, 10:54 PM

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It won't work on players without the correct layer. You got to either use the local player layer or set up your own collider that follows the player

tough junco Apr 22, 2020, 10:57 PM

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I did not, I'll give that a shot. I've been trying to figure this out for 3 days

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like this?

gentle halo Apr 22, 2020, 11:05 PM

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i feel like im missing something because when i collide it still doesnt teleport me, can someone please help me? Thanks so much in advance! im just new to this whole thing and i am having a hard time learning it all

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west plover Apr 22, 2020, 11:17 PM

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There's nothing that can actually be done with VRCPlayerAPI.GetAllPlayers right now?

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As it returns a List which is functionally useless 🙂

ripe frost Apr 22, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Does synchronize position also apply towards animators?

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so that anything moving will also be synchronized for other players?

twilit breach Apr 22, 2020, 11:27 PM

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@gentle halo try replacing on collision enter with on trigger enter, add an additional trigger collider to the object and place it on the part you want players to bump

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this will mean any time any rigidbody enters the trigger the local player will teleport so you may want to make a new physics layer that only has local player so nothing else bumps to teleporter

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 11:29 PM

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so ive come to find despite setting my variables as sync, its not syncing the variables at all. Are you supposed to do something special to get/set synced variables to ensure they are the same for all?

west plover Apr 22, 2020, 11:29 PM

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only the master can sync vars

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 11:30 PM

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ok, so you have to determine if the user is the master before messing with a sync variable, and if you do that it will update it for everyone else?

gentle halo Apr 22, 2020, 11:32 PM

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@twilit breach Thank you so much, that worked out exactly as i was wanting it to!

tough junco Apr 22, 2020, 11:38 PM

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i cant get this to work at all and it seems like it would be such a basic thing to figure out

twilit breach Apr 22, 2020, 11:45 PM

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so for your vrcplayer api teleport you have some incorrent things entering

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interact is fine

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instance wants an instance of VRCPlayer API, you are giving it a transform

tough junco Apr 22, 2020, 11:47 PM

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all im trying to figure out how to do is make it so when you press the white button to the right, it resets the bowling pins in that lane

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twilit breach Apr 22, 2020, 11:47 PM

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oh well you dont want the vrcplayer teleport, thats for players

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here ill get you one 1sec

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tough junco Apr 22, 2020, 11:49 PM

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let me give that a shot

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 11:52 PM

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how do you call a custom event?

twilit breach Apr 22, 2020, 11:53 PM

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worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 11:53 PM

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thanks!

twilit breach Apr 22, 2020, 11:53 PM

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the bottom one has every client play it

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top one is only local

tough junco Apr 22, 2020, 11:56 PM

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so, it did work but it only worked one time

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after i reset the pins once the buttons stopped working

worthy beacon Apr 22, 2020, 11:57 PM

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ah ok, so if i wanted to proc an event for everyone on the server, id use the send custom network event. If i wanted to call an event thats within the same udon behavior script, do i just make a udon behavior with the same name and attach it to the instance, or do i leave the instance blank?

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 12:03 AM

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@tough junco can you show a screenshot of the current set up?

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 12:03 AM

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like the code?

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 12:04 AM

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if you could get the current flow chart and each object that is involved like transform point for pin spawn and pin game object thats getting moved

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instance is which udon behavior you will try to call the custom event on

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I always make a public udon variable, get variable and put that into it

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then if the event is on the same object you drag itself into the public variable in the inspector window

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if the event is in a different object/udon behavior drag that one in

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basically whatever object is in that slot attempts to run a custom event with the name you input. if it doesn't have an event with that name nothing happens

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 12:07 AM

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so i have the code attached to this button, and the pins are set to the variable pins

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twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 12:09 AM

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a solid start would be addressing the common compiler error incase the graph is fine

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 12:11 AM

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im very new to this and just started trying to learn it like a week ago

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 12:12 AM

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press play while in editor (the arrow in the top middle), wait for it to load and turn blue and give it a few more seconds. Then press the blue play arrow again to stop it. then select your udon graph asset in the asset folder (bottom middle), then on the inspector in the right hit open udon graph to let it open udon window in the middle. in the top right of this window you will see a button called auto compile which counts down from 5, let that happen with your mouse in the udon graph and don't click nothing. after its done auto compile button becomes manual compile. hit this once, wait a few seconds and then go to the top left of everything and hit file save

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 12:12 AM

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📎 2020-04-22_19-10-10.mkv

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 12:12 AM

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after that try your game again

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theres a very common issue where the graph is fine but something doesn't actually put it together, i posted the best way to make sure it actually creates the code the graph is visually promising

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 12:17 AM

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so i did all that and its still only working once

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that video i sent is a video of what its doing

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 12:18 AM

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lets see

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ok I understand the problem

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so what we have happening is your are taking the parent object above everything, pins, and moving its transform to that exact spot in space

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but the pins move independent of that parent anyway

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so even if we put that invisible parent back there they have already locally moved

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essentially when you move a pin with physics and the ball it is becoming locally further from pins, the parent

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say it started -2x 0y and 0z from the invisible parent pins

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the ball moves it locally to -5x 0y -2z away from the parent

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I explained that poorly but does it make sense?

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 12:21 AM

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kinda

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im just tring to figure out how to make it so it can reset the pins multiple times so someone would actually play bowling

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 12:23 AM

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you'll have to set up all the pins with copies of the teleport

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and have the interact fire all of it

hoary elk Apr 23, 2020, 12:24 AM

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Watching the stream right now. As a creator of the Marimba World, is there any effort on allowing players to play music in sync with each other?

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 12:26 AM

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so on each pin i need to attach the same udon script as the button?

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 12:26 AM

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umm let me think if theres an easier way

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cuz it would work for sure if you basically duplicated it 10 times, and had 10 transform points (for each pin respawn) and 10 variable game objects in script for each pin

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and did on interact through the first one, then flowing onto the duplicate and so on

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I forget if there is a way to reset position locally to what it started as cuz that would do it as well

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eh its honestly not that bad just click everything except interact (with ctrl left click or drag a box over them) and hit ctrl d to duplicate

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then drag in to the right of the flow and attach the noodles

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and rename the duplicate transform and game obj to pin2 and pin2respawn or something

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then make a few new invisible transform markers

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 12:32 AM

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like this?

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twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 12:33 AM

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yup

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 12:33 AM

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wait are you trying to get me to set up a respawn on the lane for each individual pin?

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 12:33 AM

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yup

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 12:33 AM

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ohhhhhhhhh

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before i had to just teleporting all of the pins below the map to fall and be respawned that way

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 12:34 AM

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oh wait wait I know

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instead you just set each pins local transform back to what it is

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so you don't need 10 invisible respawn points

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ill throw together a graph

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tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 12:37 AM

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alrighty. i appreciate the help, i just started trying to use unity and stuff like a week ago and dont really have any experience and ive been trying to figure this out for like 3 days

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 12:37 AM

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you still need 10 variables, one per pin game object

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and on the right the local transform you have to set it to exactly what it is when you click pin in editor

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 12:38 AM

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the x y and z cords?

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 12:38 AM

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this is basically resetting it to the distance locally from the parent object pin

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yeah, and rotation cuz they will get knocked over

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 12:39 AM

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okay ill give that a shot

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 12:40 AM

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try it with one first because that middle node get transform

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it may need to be get local transform

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also make sure it says local, not global up here

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meaning you are reading the objects position locally in respect to its parent and copying that

cedar rapids Apr 23, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Hi Udon people, I've decided to dip my toes into modding so I'm learning some Udon. I'm finding it kind of difficult to find documentation, was hoping there would be more in the pins. More general purpose stuff or known issues with the editor since I've been having strange issues left and right

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I guess a specific question I have right now, I have two volume buttons for a song player in my world, and the audio source starts at volume = 1.
The volume up button adds 0.1 to the volume and this works fine, but the almost identical volume down button which subtracts 0.1 just mutes it and I have no clue why

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 12:43 AM

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https://ask.vrchat.com/

VRChat Udon Discussion Forum

A place to discuss, share, and create with VRChat Udon.

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https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/udon-node-graph

VRChat

Udon Node Graph

The Udon Node Graph is the default interface for creation of Udon programs. This section goes over most of the Udon-only nodes available.This section will not cover the Unity functions that Udon exposes-- click the Help button on those nodes in the interface to view Unity's do...

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for this ^ left middle there are three sub categories under the black outlined one

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https://docs.unity3d.com/2018.4/Documentation/Manual/

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@cedar rapids can you share a screenshot of your graph?

cedar rapids Apr 23, 2020, 12:46 AM

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this is the volume up button, it works

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this is the volume down button that just mutes it

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tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 12:48 AM

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alright i put it in for one pin and im booting up now

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 12:49 AM

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nice lets hope for the best

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Spylenol have you tried the recompile troubleshoot bit?

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cuz often times graphs are fine but it just didnt give you the code it promised

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press play while in editor (the arrow in the top middle), wait for it to load and turn blue and give it a few more seconds. Then press the blue play arrow again to stop it. then select your udon graph asset in the asset folder (bottom middle), then on the inspector in the right hit open udon graph to let it open udon window in the middle. in the top right of this window you will see a button called auto compile which counts down from 5, let that happen with your mouse in the udon graph and don't click nothing. after its done auto compile button becomes manual compile. hit this once, wait a few seconds and then go to the top left of everything and hit file save

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do that for volume down to make graph asset first incase you have it right and its just the glitch not your graph

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it likely didnt compile and has the default float of 0, instead of minus .1 now that i think on it

cedar rapids Apr 23, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Intuitive! I'll give it a try vrcTongue The assembly code for the two buttons looks wildly different too, despite the fact that they have almost the same graph

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 12:52 AM

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it worked

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 12:53 AM

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whats probably happening is it got lazy and didnt see the second half of the graph, so it is currently doing on interact set audio source to 0 (without seeing the white line being dragged from your minus section)

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 12:54 AM

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now i just have to duplicate that and then edit the cords for each pin correct?

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and set it as a new object for each one

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 12:54 AM

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yup, just go down in a row adding Pin3, Pin4 and so on

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and typing in the correct local coords for each

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 12:55 AM

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alright ill get to that, thanks for the help

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 12:55 AM

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sure Np

cedar rapids Apr 23, 2020, 12:56 AM

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@twilit breach That worked! Kinda silly that this happens but I suppose it is an alpha after all

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Doesn't help that I'm totally new to visual programming so I can't always tell if I'm doing something wrong or the graph is broken

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New to Unity too so... plenty to learn

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 1:01 AM

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It's a good habit to run through that play/unplay compile thing if your graph sounds fine. Just to make sure it wasn't the bug

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It's worth the trade off for me because once you get used to graphs they compile code faster then typing imo, and handle all the typos/order

cedar rapids Apr 23, 2020, 1:03 AM

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It seems that they handle network code as well?

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Yup, little limited atm but we got some

cedar rapids Apr 23, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Yeah I've already found some gaps in it, hahaha

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I have a sphere that you can grab and interact with but I put a reset sphere button on my map because people threw it off the side. It only resets the position client-side for the person who pressed it and if there's a mismatch you'll see teleport to the spawn position and then float back to where it was

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 1:05 AM

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So what's happening is you are syncing it's position over the network

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The only one who can tell other clients the current position to sync is the owner of the object in question

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VRChat made it so if you ever pick up an object you become owner, therefore it syncs/shows position to others

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You need it so whoever locally clicks this reset button also takes ownership

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Then they will share the movement of teleportation

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There's a node called set owner, not much to add at all

cedar rapids Apr 23, 2020, 1:08 AM

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ahh, so I'll need some nodes to get the player who presses the reset button and then use set owner on the sphere using that player

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Alternative which is probably better

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Is to have it send teleport as a custom network event

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Because I believe it smoothly transitions to the synces position so that's why it hovers over for non owners

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I'll throw together a graph real quick

worthy beacon Apr 23, 2020, 1:13 AM

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so i get now that the master has to be the one to set sycronized variables, but how do you then sync those variables to everyone else?

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do you do it with a set variable or with somthing else? because my sync variables arnt syconizing

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 1:17 AM

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@cedar rapids

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What you drag into the public variable "Udon Behavior" is the item with the event (in this instance the button we have the script on itself)

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@worthy beacon I could double that question, I'm having issues with syncing atm

cedar rapids Apr 23, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Wild

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 1:21 AM

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basically anything that happens through the custom event we named "TP" happens for every player, this is fundamentally how you do things over the network so its a good thing to know

worthy beacon Apr 23, 2020, 1:21 AM

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ah ok, so its not just me

cedar rapids Apr 23, 2020, 1:21 AM

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The only thing I don't really understand is why the EventTarget variable is needed, tbh. the script is attached to the button right?

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and why it is referred to as an Udon Behavior too

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 1:23 AM

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udon behavior is the component you add

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so we are finding said component, aka the script

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and telling that script to fire an event named "TP" , if it has one

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the reason being only in your client did you interact with the button, other players clients arn't looking at the button and its udon behavior/script atm

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so we are telling other players "hey look at this script here, and do its custom event TP"

cedar rapids Apr 23, 2020, 1:25 AM

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okay, so the instance portion is actually a sort of initialization step that happens before the event fires

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where the script is sent to all players, then executed

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 1:28 AM

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yup

worthy beacon Apr 23, 2020, 1:28 AM

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is there any documentation how the synced variables are supposed to work?

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 1:28 AM

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yeah

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https://ask.vrchat.com/t/how-to-sync-with-udon/449

VRChat Udon Discussion Forum

How to Sync with Udon

Udon has 4 ways to sync Sync Position using an UdonBehaviour component Used to sync the position & rotation of an object Sync Animation using an UdonBehaviour component (Coming Soon) Used to sync the animator transitions of an object Udon Synced Variables Use...

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number 3 on the list

worthy beacon Apr 23, 2020, 1:31 AM

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thats not a lot XD

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 1:32 AM

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I'm not sure when it syncs variables. does it detect any change that is made to a variable and immediately share the new variable with other players? or do you need to point out you made a change. idk

cedar rapids Apr 23, 2020, 1:32 AM

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One last question, this one might actually be a Unity specific question but I noticed that when I have a script that does something with an audio source and has it as a public variable, there's no way for me to drag the audio source component in if said audio source is on another game object in the editor (let's say a cube with an audio source) but I can drag the game object itself in and it seems to work fine. Does it just infer the component it needs from that game object based on the variable type?

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 1:32 AM

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but people have it working so its some kinda thing

worthy beacon Apr 23, 2020, 1:33 AM

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theres apparently examples, im gonna look through those

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 1:34 AM

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yeah, I haven't looked into it but I assume whoever made udon has it checking game object for the audio source component, so we just give it the game object

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there are a lot of other nodes for audio sources/clips I haven't tried so that might be the way to go if you have multiple audio source components on one object

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I'm being lazy and making a child with an audio source for each new sound lol

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if you figure it out can you at me Zeshin? Sync variables confuse me

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 1:38 AM

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so i added all the pins for one of the lanes but the button only resets pin 1

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am i supposed to connect interact with each instance of a pin?

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 1:38 AM

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theres 10 slots on your component and each pin has been dragged in?

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nah interact starts it and the white flow line will go trans pos trans rot, then trans2 pos trans2 rot and so on

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 1:39 AM

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it goes all the way down to 10

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 1:40 AM

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you did the play button recompile save bit?

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 1:40 AM

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no oops

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 1:40 AM

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cuz it almost definitely struggled to compile that monster

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yeah do that

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it struggles with like 5 nodes so xD

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but it looks good to me

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 1:42 AM

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do you know how to change the text displayed when you look at the button by chance? so i can have it say "Reset lane 1" instead of "use"

cedar rapids Apr 23, 2020, 1:42 AM

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I lied I have one final final question, I have a sphere with VRC pickup that I want users to be able to grab and move around, but I didn't want it to be affected by gravity or be able to be tossed so I froze its position and rotation on the rigibody. I can pick it up and move it but it doesn't move continuously, it moves in noticeably large increments as you drag it around

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 1:46 AM

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@tough junco you have to change to debug mode

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then change interact text and go back to normal mode

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to get to debug its that little three lines in the left portion of the image at the top right

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and then you will see a lot of stuff I would recommend not changing

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but typing into interact text if fine

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instead of that just go to the rigidbody and check the kinematic box

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this means it wont be affected by physics (aka gravity and player arm movement force transfer)

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but if you had other stuff involving physics with the cube it will be messed with

cedar rapids Apr 23, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Nah, only other thing is it makes a gnome sound when you grab it

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 1:50 AM

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hahaha nice

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yeah kinematic is probably solid solution

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there may be issues with position sync and kinematic things, I'm not sure atm but making one of my objects kinematic messes up its sync. granted it has a lot of other scripts on it so maybe thats just mine

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or im forgetting some core aspect of unity. give it a shot tho xD

cedar rapids Apr 23, 2020, 1:52 AM

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My reset sphere button doesn't work but it might not have been working before either, maybe compile issue

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as for moving it around, it works absolutely how I expect now, thank you

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 1:52 AM

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sweet

cedar rapids Apr 23, 2020, 1:53 AM

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I want to get familiar enough with this to make something like a cards against humanity that's more friendly to both VR and non VR players than the one I tried

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 1:53 AM

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could be compile issue, or sometimes one of the white flow lines decides to disconnect so check everything as well

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its most definitely possible, go for it!

tough junco Apr 23, 2020, 2:32 AM

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i keep making sure the cordinates are all the same but they keep spawning in on their sides

twilit breach Apr 23, 2020, 2:36 AM

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so the rotation from a model file say from blender or downloaded get wonky in unity. thats an issue beyond VrChat, just unity stuff