Many people gave them many solutions
#quest-general
small cargo
But they wont listen the wont check the chat from.quest players
They just dont care
dusk bison
Only dev I’ve ever seen in this quest chat is ruuubick
small cargo
Its just me who wastet morenthen 600 bucks on my quest
For a nice vrc experience
That i guess i wont have until i get a godamn pc rhat is vr ready
dusk bison
They should just beta test in general through oculus and get feedback from quest users who have the beta test feature enabled (if that works) but yeah I don’t think they’re gonna go through the effort of that. I mean it’s not like they don’t put in any effort but a good majority of the playerbase is quest and they’re making it awful so I meannnn
Vrchat used to be my main game but now I play games that actually listen to their community
small cargo
It wont be long and theres more quest useres then pc useres
What is the excuse then
God im just so dissapointed
dusk bison
I don’t think any of them are really familiar with what the quest can actually handle. They follow the oculus guidelines, which are more of suggestions, very strictly.
dusk bison
I’ve talked with devs so many times, read the things that they told me to read tons of times, etc etc
dusk bison
no i mainly talked to them about audio and what not
small cargo
Dont change infront of mirrors 🤣
dusk bison
Lmao
small cargo
Oh is see
oblique orbit
I think the lag and things like that are bad but it’s also really obnoxious when you get these 11 year old green double sided toothbrushes in your lobby earaping and being a nuisance
dusk bison
Every single update seems to worsen the quest experience. I just hope they find a way to, idk, maybe test their shit 🤔🤔🤔
small cargo
I think the lag and things like that are bad but it’s also really obnoxious when you get these 11 year old green double sided toothbrushes in your lobby earaping and being a nuisance
Theres a Block feature
@oblique orbit
oblique orbit
Ik
dusk bison
Yeah also the vrchat hub is filled with those kids I’d try the pug
small cargo
Every single update seems to worsen the quest experience. I just hope they find a way to, idk, maybe test their shit 🤔🤔🤔
@dusk bison
Tupper ONCE and only ONCE tweetet something about quest
It was something like how can u be a traitor ive u got index AND quest
I dont see him or anyone use it
oblique orbit
It’s hard to block them when it’s lagging like hell
dusk bison
Lmaooo
small cargo
It’s hard to block them when it’s lagging like hell
@oblique orbit
True
oblique orbit
So when the tooth brush kids and the lag both happen at once it’s horrible
oblique orbit
And it’s also the only game on vr I have that I can use with just a left controller
oblique orbit
We really are
small cargo
To be able to activate a mirror and thai look at them selves
Without having tha hardwaaaare explode in thai faces
Feels like shit
Its not minecraft with rtx on
Its vrchat for fuck sakes
Fix IT
Im so close on just massaging the dev team directly there needs something to be DONE
sweet talon
Vrc broke my finger trails
small cargo
Well go to unity and fix it or did the disabled fingerteails on quest now two
sweet talon
No they did not
tawdry wyvern
Stop using mirror
small cargo
Ye shure
Stop using vrc
Which is sad vecouse ur friends and connections are a real thing getting murdered by dev teams incompetence to simply TEST what the put out
haughty coyote
Is anyone else with an oculus quest facing problems with vr chat?
When you log in it freezes?
😦
teal rivet
All the particles for oculus quest are messed up
haughty coyote
Yep pretty much
small cargo
When you log in it freezes?
@haughty coyote jop they butched it again
But i heard pc is also fucked
small cargo
Welp I guess i wont play vrc tonigt i cant take the crashing this is bullshit but nobody from the devs givs to fucks anyways so what ever am i right i mean look at the oculus store review its a joke and the realy dont care
Good night world
haughty coyote
The new update
small cargo
Jop the fucked it up again
haughty coyote
The someone know here how to fix the oculus link problem?
long talon
whats the new update for quest vrc?
ive loaded up twice and the pixels and stuff is all messed up
like a graphical glitch
undone flare
so i just loaded up vrchat on quest, i dont see any problems.
haughty coyote
The particle systems are all screwed up
west wraith
haughty coyote
noice
haughty coyote
i cant start my game
haughty coyote
Yeah I feel like their main goal is to remove us quest users. It feels that way at least. Every update just hurts us quest users and benefits the pc users. Eventually if our updates keep getting this bad I feel like vr chat is just going to be unplayable for quest users.
They should first fix the particle problem then they should make quest avatars have sound again cause they took that away
blazing sparrow
the sound was a bug
haughty coyote
No no no like they fix the audio bug bug not take away the whole thing, like they fix it if possible then make it so quest can have audio (if it’s possible)
blazing sparrow
The bug was you could make an avatar with audio for quest.
austere island
Can you Devs give a slightest fuck about quest ???????
Yea the terrible glitch of having audio on mobile phone ewww quest users don't deserve that
Devs be like :
undone flare
christ people, can you just chill or something
austere island
No am not gonna chill
If this happened on pc people would go crazy
You need to realise people are spending countless hours in unity to make animations and the vrchat just fucks everything
rough summit
WHO IS RESPONSIBLE because whoever it is should be fired immediately and sent straight to hell
austere island
XD
haughty coyote
Since we are complaining why is audio even an option in the safety setting? And voice is as well.
dusk bison
When it was first ported to quest they were too lazy to remove that safety setting.
New update: 1/10, fucked up particles (somehow, idek how they went about screwing that up) but at least menu is less laggy. Still doesn’t make up for ruining particles
austere island
XD
dusk bison
And I talked to devs about audio a few times and they assumed that since voices count as audio sources, and crackling happens at about 18 people, they wouldn’t add it : /. That’s assuming that the audio sources on each avatar were all playing at the same time.
dusk bison
Nah right now they’re degrading
dusk bison
All the stuff you used to be able to bug in actually ran completely fine as well. I mean you couldn’t bug in shaders, which would be the only point of concern. So idk why they chose to change it
There was only one week where the quest experience was good, we could still bug in audio, colliders, etc. and there was no crashing or lag. Was nice, then surprise surprise they fucked it up
austere island
But you need to realise we shouldn't have expectation we are just poor idiots playing on phone we don't deserve audio
XD
dusk bison
It’s not that they’re purposefully neglecting us they just don’t care about us
Really feels like they’re trying to remove their quest playerbase sometimes tho
God how hard is it for them to listen to the quest community. Everyone is unhappy because they don’t test their shit for quest before releasing it. Every update for quest is dogshit now, I mean I’m seriously baffled how they managed to fuck up particle systems
It’s for reasons like these that I only play the game if my friends want to now. I’ve given up on avatar creation because I know it’ll be fucked over in an update. I could never play the game solo now
austere island
I think it would be better of waiting for neosvr
dusk bison
The reality of it is, vrchat will always have a larger playerbase than these other games that are similar to it. So it will always come out on top.
rough summit
why with the particles tho
opaque flume
Has there been any official response on the quest issues since the previous update? Quest users in my friends group are losing trust in the platform due to their experience just getting worse over time...
obsidian zealot
My quest wasn’t working well so I connected it to pc with the charge cable and it fixed all my issues.
👏
small cargo
My quest wasn’t working well so I connected it to pc with the charge cable and it fixed all my issues.
@obsidian zealot
Wow u fucking Smart Ass not EVERYONE has goddamn vr ready gaming pc like u do i dont understand why pc useres always have to talk literally SHIT in this thread my god shut up if u wont bring anything PRODUCTIVE to the discussion I'm so mad its not even funny anymore i PAYED money for my quest mainly becouse i wanted to play vrc but im getting fucked more and more with every update and it pisses all of quest users off that nobody cares
harsh oak
wow salty much?
small cargo
Yes im so DONENwith this shit
harsh oak
vrchat on quest is hell to make content for imo
every time i try to make a quest avatar, it always comes out scuffed af
small cargo
Everytimena quest user complaints about VALID issues Pc useres come in and talk stupid bullshit just shut the fuck UP im so fed up with this crap
Like literally i payed money for my hardware
For a game the run like shit
Its like Anthem but WORSE
every time i try to make a quest avatar, it always comes out scuffed af
@harsh oak maybe i can help i made avatars and worlds for quest
Here it comes
I cant wait
Come on
obsidian zealot
I think you need to calm down Ventras. No one wants to help someone who is constantly vulgar and toxic
small cargo
Bless us
I tried MANY ways
And im fed up with that kind of behaviour
That smug ass stupid
How dare u peasants complain behaviour
Which is going on for months
harsh oak
I think you need to calm down Ventras. No one wants to help someone who is constantly vulgar and toxic
@obsidian zealot agreed
small cargo
When ever quest complaints pc useres just shrug it of its so frustrating
Yea I think that and thats fine i know im going off atm but i also know theres people here that think the same
Quest gets neglected more and more ignoring all people that cant play on pc ignoring all the people who fell for the shiny videos and advertisements
All those people including me just get a big fat middlefinger to the face week after week month after MONTH
And then on top theres those asshole pc useres who supposedly have nothing better to do then do Rub it In even more
this shit gets to u after a while and im way past the point that could be described with "after a while"
And if u would scroll up u would see more and more people say the saaaame shit day after day week after week its one coherent thing its easy 3 words
Please Fix Quest
But NOBODY'S listening
harsh oak
the reason i usually ignore the quest userbase is because most of it's playerbase consists of annoying squeakers who think screaming about their "no no square" is the funniest thing they've ever seen
small cargo
Its kids
harsh oak
you also seem to keep forgetting that the developers are usually putting out bugfixes and patches for quest when they update the game
most of the crashes come down to one simple thing:
small cargo
Its a meme it will go away and thats the reason u dont listen to wuest issue's
That is a joke right
harsh oak
usually when theres some annoying trend, i ignore a lot of ppl who follow those stupid trends
small cargo
No Wrong
Quest crashes
Quest lags more then ever before go scroll up read what people say
Most of the time worlds dont load at all
Social tab is broken
harsh oak
that's the price you pay for playing vrchat without a fancy pc
things are going to be broken
small cargo
So all of quest are no no square kids wow thats fucked
harsh oak
a lot of people have their safety set up so that anyone with the visitor rank is avatar blocked and muted by default
small cargo
Nooooo WRONG > things are going to be broken
@harsh oak
Every game on quest runs like BUTTER out of an oven
Only vrc is getting Worse with every update again the updates make it WORSE
I have everything blocked
And i still crash
harsh oak
i'm out of here
small cargo
My friends aswell
harsh oak
i completely understand your frustration
i have a hella ton of issues on pc too
when i open my social tab, my framerate drops to like 15 for a few seconds
porting vrchat to quest is kinda like porting vrc to linux
there's a ton of stuff that needs to be recompiled and rewritten
and not everything is just going to miraculously work without being rewritten
small cargo
Bingo and exactly THAT isnt happening at all
obsidian zealot
VRChat has no right to run on quest. But they got it working, with heavy sacrifices. It’s a free game, yes it doesn’t work amazing on quest. It has no requirement to. If you don’t like how it runs, play something else. Quest is probably not a priority for them and that’s perfectly ok. It’s not like you paid money for it.
harsh oak
^
if you really want to dedicate some time to vrchat, do yourself a favor, and just save up for a cheapo pc
you can play quest link on pc now
with the charger cable
small cargo
And again a pc usere with the same Brainless arguments as everybody else nice
Its not about me
People with challenges in their live
Maybe people bound to bed
harsh oak
this whole argument is pointless... i'm outta here
obsidian zealot
You’re complaining about something that you downloaded for free
harsh oak
^
small cargo
Maybe people with horrible things that happened in their live just wanna enjoy some vr company
harsh oak
if you think this is bad, TRY PLAYING NEOS VR ON QUEST
small cargo
I just wont open ur eyes tonthe whole picture
harsh oak
literally NOTHING WORKS on that game
small cargo
My dear lord always the same dead Arguments
harsh oak
anyways, i have to get back to porting and fixing my map for quest
obsidian zealot
I swear this is worse than desktop users complaining that the game doesn’t cater to them. Even they understand they’re not the target demo
If it makes things easier on you just pretend there is no quest support
small cargo
I don't want a game catered only to quest I just wanna see ONE and only ONE thing
Care actual CARE
obsidian zealot
Because you’re lucky it works at all
small cargo
Just once have a dev say hey we know quest isnt the best atm we are trying to fix it
obsidian zealot
Well look they probably don’t care much about quest support what are you gonna do about it besides sit here and complain constantly go play something else if you don’t like their priorities
small cargo
Something like that would soften sooo many people
Yea becouse vrchat is only a game huh
obsidian zealot
Aight I’m out
small cargo
Its not a way for people to find friends
Make friends
A way for people with no voice to meet people who understand
Yea just quit then"game" he says jop
Better u get Out good idea first time a good idea comes from ur direction
harsh oak
i've lost like 89% of my brain cells from reading this argument
small cargo
Becouse u don't get it
Fuck it im done talking to people with litterally zero emphatie good bye
obsidian zealot
Been having a blast on quest honestly. The stricter model requirements have really made me learn new optimization techniques.
harsh oak
hmm
obsidian zealot
I wonder how amazing pc gaming would be if they all had this close attention to optimization detail
harsh oak
i was going to ask if anyone was willing to help me with performance testing my vrc world on quest, but that ventras dude started raging out as soon as i asked :(
obsidian zealot
I’d love to but at the moment I’m stuck with work from home responsibilities until 6 more hrs
harsh oak
:(
austere island
optimization you meant the 150k poly avatars that people are making on quest
yea i like that optimization too
obsidian zealot
I personally target 7500 or under, one 1024x1024 material
5000 is a little stiff but I’m sure I’ll get better
harsh oak
i try to get 5k polys on all my quest models
obsidian zealot
One thing I’m not sure about is the emission/normal/metallic/smoothness maps. Do they want a single material, or single texture?
They provide them as options on the mobile shader
Because I’m using a 1024 for all 4
Tho all but diffuse is heavily compressed
It doesn’t lag me, the performance rank doesn’t hate it, but I’m still not so sure
Probably should have asked on #quest-optimization
haughty coyote
Ah
Avatar creators on quest dont really care much for optimization
Its a pain when the popular avatars are 150k poly with 2 animators and whatnot
Then you walk into a pug with three of them staring at the mirror and causing your frames to drop
obsidian zealot
Fine with me. My policy on quest is: 1.) I disable safety (User rank does not matter to me) 2.) I show poor avatars (I will see an avatar if it’s 10K or below and has good material count) but other than that, if they are very poor, I never unhide. Ever.
solar iris
Only material slots (even inactive) are taken into consideration by ranking, actual amount of materials as long as they're on-demand loaded into material element, texture res and even shaders used are not in any way considered in rating
So yes, it's entirely possible to make crasher or shader glitcher with excellent rating
obsidian zealot
I know that. All my avatars are single material and I never use a map larger than 1024. I am just asking if a 1024 diffuse, normal, emission, and metalicsmoothness map is acceptable for a single material avatar on quest
Or if I should be scaling down everything besides diffuse
haughty coyote
Oh and the Ventra guy comes here to complain everyday, we kinda got used to it
solar iris
Keep all textures same res, different resolution normal will cause bumpmap artifacts
harsh oak
is there any way to get transparent textures in worlds on quest?
i really don't want to make extensive mesh edits to my map's transparent stuff in blender
tawdry wyvern
You can fill all slot with a 1024 for each texture. Should not be an issue. The quest have a lots of memory for that
tawdry wyvern
I use one 2k texture on avatar. No need for more
obsidian zealot
Uh... worlds can use any shaders you want. To my knowledge. That does not mean they will preform well on quest.
Only avatars must use whitelisted shaders
harsh oak
wait i can use custom world shaders?
tawdry wyvern
We should try to use the mobile one on everything. And some few custom.
harsh oak
i'm using the standard shaders for everything rn
i might switch out all the opaque stuff with the standard lite shader
obsidian zealot
To my understanding yes you can use custom shader code for worlds. Great care must be taken that they be mobile optimized
tawdry wyvern
Some shader will not work on Android
harsh oak
and use the standard shader on all the transparent things
tawdry wyvern
At all
solar iris
You can use normal unlit/transparent in world
obsidian zealot
I don’t think standard shader on quest is a good idea
tawdry wyvern
Try to keep transparent/cuout to a minimum.
obsidian zealot
Yeah unlit transparent should be fine just avoid layering it over itself
solar iris
Legacy shaders work fine as well but there seems to be problem with some on PC so YMMV
harsh oak
do render texture cams cause a lot of lag?
solar iris
Not relly
harsh oak
i replaced the static screen from hl2 with this
it uses a render texture
and lets players broadcast themselves on there
obsidian zealot
Not really worlds generally use orthogonal render cameras as a potato mirror, with pc’s potato mirrors being the high quality
solar iris
Might cause some cam glitches if the main camera and the texture camera have wildly different settings
harsh oak
hmmm
should i set some custom clear flags on the rt cam?
so it doesnt render as much stuff
this is the room it's broadcasting from
obsidian zealot
It’s fine if you want a custom background in the render
solar iris
UI and particles are obvious choices to ommit
obsidian zealot
Just don’t overboard with the render resolution
solar iris
As for back clear - anything works
obsidian zealot
And force the udon / trigger logic to only allow one active one at a time
solar iris
Multiple active would cause rendering issues anyway
solar iris
Should be fine
harsh oak
what poly count should i try to get this map down to?
its at ~163k rn
mostly due to the prop count
solar iris
Depends how much is rendered at once
harsh oak
this is about the most you're gonna see at once
obsidian zealot
Just make sure you use culling so they only need to render what they see. Having it all as one object will be an issue as they can’t cull
harsh oak
the world itself is only about 13k tris
obsidian zealot
Yeah quest isn’t gonna handle a huge map all as one object
harsh oak
should i reimport the props as static, separate meshes?
obsidian zealot
13 tris sounds fine I dunno
solar iris
Just try to cull any hipoly objects in distance
harsh oak
so is culling enabled by default?
obsidian zealot
I can jump on in an hour and check it out, vrc name is same as my discord name
harsh oak
mk
solar iris
If you have less than 50k tris in view at time it should be fine
harsh oak
so should i need to do any mesh work?
obsidian zealot
Can quest batch identical props
harsh oak
the map currently runs on my pc at a solid 90fps
i ported this straight out of hl2 yesterday out of boredom lol
solar iris
I suspect the trees and barbed wire count for quite a few poly, if they're more of backdrop prop try to replace them with cardboard cutout style of prop
obsidian zealot
Keep in mind you are free to make your PC build much higher quality, as long as it has the same triggers and collisions quest and pc users will stay synced up perfectly
solar iris
Anything in distance that won't be reachable - just remove and drop crdboard prop in instead
harsh oak
the trees are only 342 tris
rn im unpacking the vpk for hl2 audio
so i can import the audio into unity
and the map should feel a bit more lively after that
solar iris
If the worls is 13k without the props where do the other 150k come from
harsh oak
the props make up those other 150k
mystic heath
One thing to look out for with quest. Make sure the map is under 50mb or it wont upload with quest.
harsh oak
i already checked on pc
solar iris
Well what is the highest poly count, start with that
harsh oak
the map is 31mb
also idk which is the highest poly @solar iris
the props are a single mesh
i atlased and combined everything in the map
even attempting to click on the city 17 map in the unity editor before optimizing it caused my editor to freeze for a minute
it originally used around 560 materials
solar iris
Unf
harsh oak
so i atlassed all of them into a single material
i basically pulled this map straight from my steam copy of hl2
solar iris
Try to selectively decimate the rounded objects, those are obviously most tris
harsh oak
mk
im probably gonna try to get the poly count down to 75-100k
then i'll call it good, and upload
as long as there arent too many high poly props in view, it should run well
solar iris
At 70k it should be mostly fine, just clip far plane as much as possible and maybe drop in fog to mask it
solar iris
Scene camera affects it
harsh oak
the vrccam?
solar iris
No, the main camera in scene
solar iris
Ye, just make new camera with defaults, lower farplane, enable fog in lighting to mask it
harsh oak
mk
actually, fog would add to the dark mood a bit lol
rn im finishing revision 2 for pc
then im gonna duplicate the project folder, load it in, optimize for quest some more, and upload
i have noticed while playing that the world feels a bit darker
probably due to me turning down the lighting system intensity
solar iris
Could be bad bake of lights, check if some aren't inside geometry
harsh oak
no
it's fine
i just toned down the lighting a bit, bc i like the look of it better
hmmm
apparently i'm missing a lot of decals in the map
solar iris
There is legacy decal shader, it's rather basic but usable
harsh oak
well
i got the decal stuff working
but i cant get my source engine import tool to import decals right
solar iris
You might need to extract and apply them manually
harsh oak
ye
obsidian zealot
@harsh oak jumping in vrc on quest for the next half hour
harsh oak
now uploading revision 2 for pc
quest version coming in a bit
i also configured the display system
so that theres fog now
and the far clip plane is at about 80
meaning a lot of stuff isnt rendered at once
rugged granite
Please say that hand tracking is in the works?
solar iris
Don't bet on it
obsidian zealot
I doubt it, how would you walk around?
Don’t get me wrong, I’d love it.
But unless oculus adds it to rift S and Quest Link I don’t think it will find much use
harsh oak
so i have almost everything on my to-do list for this world checked off
except for a quest release
plucky barn
Is anyone else having black pixels on their screen, and also the quest loading in vr chat and suddenly everythings quiet on the quest? You can't hearM
obsidian zealot
Can’t say that happened to me.
harsh oak
yeeee
i got r2 on pc finished
now to take care of the quest version
i may even begin work on revision 3 tonight
the uncompressed project for this map is about 1.5GB now
but vrchat cuts out all the unused assets
bringing the size down to around 31MB
now to sit around for about 30 mins while i wait for unity to recompile for android
tribal ravine
so soon im getting a quest soon,not sure how soon but soon,any i want to know what the quest is capable of compared to the oculas on vrchat
solar iris
Black pixels is typical Unity bug on Quest, suspend the headset with tap on power button and wake it again
Audio cutout is firmware problem, it means Android sound server got suspended, reboot the headset and hope Facebook fixes it at some point
harsh oak
yee
those are the only non mobile shaders im using
the rest are standard lite shaders
obsidian zealot
@tribal ravine I would not personally recommend a quest specifically to play VRChat without a PC. If there are additional games on quest you want to play, go for it, but if VRChat is the only thing you are interested in, I don’t recommend a quest unless you plan to buy a computer later on and play the PC version of VRChat using your Quest.
To summarize:
-Quest is a great PC headset. Especially for PC VRChat.
-The Quest’s stand-alone library is filled with great titles.
-Quest isn’t worth it to only play the Quest version of VRC. Don’t do it if that’s your plan.
haughty coyote
Have they still not fixed the particle systems??
sour carbon
is there a vr chat discord server for quest users?
blazing sparrow
Yes, this one.
tribal ravine
@tribal ravine I would not personally recommend a quest specifically to play VRChat without a PC. If there are additional games on quest you want to play, go for it, but if VRChat is the only thing you are interested in, I don’t recommend a quest unless you plan to buy a computer later on and play the PC version of VRChat using your Quest.
To summarize:
-Quest is a great PC headset. Especially for PC VRChat.
-The Quest’s stand-alone library is filled with great titles.
-Quest isn’t worth it to only play the Quest version of VRC. Don’t do it if that’s your plan.
@obsidian zealot how come? what happends?
haughty coyote
@obsidian zealot dose it matter what computer you launch it up to?
obsidian zealot
It has to be a good gaming one that can play vr.p you don’t need one for quest, but you do if you want to play the fully featured version of vrchat instead of the quest one.
haughty coyote
@obsidian zealot I know this is late response, but I play on the oculus quest, the graphics are fine but on the quest when I log in to vr chat it just freezes and I have to reset my entire quest and if I try again it just freezes again.
haughty coyote
That doesn’t happen to me
Is there plans on fixing the particles on quest notice that they are broken and have heard rumors that it might stay that way for quest and if that's the cast I really hope it doesn't but like I said only heard rumours so that's why I'm here asking and looking for answers 👀
haughty coyote
Tbh* idk
tawdry wyvern
Yes
haughty coyote
Hello
haughty coyote
Hi
haughty coyote
If they add hand tracking before video players I’m going to laugh
haughty coyote
Hey so I have VRChat on steam when I get the quest will I be able to Get VRChat on Quest also
Because some people said you need to get it from the website itself
vapid copper
of dark members
haughty coyote
Vrchat is on the Quest store yes
worthy pier
Yo is it normal if my charger doesnt charge when I'm using my quest?
undone flare
does it work when not playing? im not sure how fast cables can charge while the quest is draining the battery.
haughty coyote
Hello?
blazing fable
@haughty coyote hi
haughty coyote
Umm...
Yesterday dude... yesterday.
Does anyone have a cross compatible Morty avatar I can use?
lime fjord
who wants a funny video of two dumb kids?
turbid parcel
@haughty coyote there's a quest avatar channel
austere island
i would say something about audio but at this point i lost all hope
undone flare
weve already answered about audio, its probably not coming back
tranquil ledge
Death will be upon this game soon. Nah I’m JK but there’s SO many bugs that they fix every update lmao
hardy adder
Does anyone know of a decent enough laptop to use the quest link? I’m not exactly looking for a gaming laptop but if that’s the only option for the link then 🤷♀️
haughty coyote
Does anyone know how to auto activate avatar showing
Also how do you play mc on wuest without oculus link
gaunt wagon
@haughty coyote you cant auto activate avatar showing, at least not to my knowledge, and you can stream minecraft wirelessly if you have a computer that can run it
gilded goblet
i really need help
@haughty coyote if u have 30 dollars and a good gaming pc
i can hook you up with a tutorial
the 30 dollars if for the game on the quest called
Virtual desktop
sacred lotus
I have a question but does anyone have a quest cartoon cat or anything from trevor henderson who is the creator of long horse cartoon cat bones worth and most popular siren head i also have avatars to trade for the trevor henderson avatar/avatars if a yes then please make sure they are quest compatible because i have a quest again i am willing to trade avatars that i have for it.
haughty coyote
@worthy pier late answer but, I get that sometimes too. You actually really need to stop playing, I thought it was because of me playing on it, but it turns out, it wont even charge if you leave it alone at that point. You have to unplug the charger, let it cool down, then plug it back in and let it charge
surreal turtle
haughty coyote
yo
uh can anyone help me with connecting me oculus quest to oculus link my usb cable doesnt get recognized for some reason and its the charging cable
can you use the oculus quest charging cable to oculus link?
it still loads and my computer will regester it now but the link wont
pls
haughty coyote
Josh it’s because your graphics card is prob out of date
grim delta
lOoKiNg fOr a proFessIonal eGiRl
lavish quiver
violet lodge
yes
austere island
XD
obsidian zealot
Jesus how
austere island
dont know either
mystic heath
Oh god. Who wants fried quests for breakfast
blazing sparrow
@haughty coyote You need to be on the beta of the oculus software, idk how to do that though, there's probs a tutorial online.
unique kiln
Sorry I’m new to this can I play this with the quest and my friend on pc?
tepid parrot
as long as you're in a cross compatible world, yes, @unique kiln
haughty coyote
@haughty coyote how to update my nvidia graphics card
nvm
i have the latest
@blazing sparrow i was
unique kiln
@tepid parrot thanks pal
lusty vector
@haughty coyote actually, Oculus should tell you if your GPU isn't compatible, if it isn't registering I'd assume you didn't plug your Quest into a USB 3 port
look for a USB port with either a blue (3.0) or teal/greenish (3.1) color
gaunt bloom
Hey does anyone now how to convert pc models to quest models
frozen juniper
does anyone want to play an escape room?
cunning thicket
@gaunt bloom if you want to convert a model make sure you lower the poly. count in blender and run Unity in Android mode
storm perch
hi
haughty coyote
@lusty vector I didn't tell me that I wasn't or itbwas and also i plugged it in the back of my computer in a small usb port but i bought another one an oculus link one
If your on respond back
obsidian zealot
There are two ways to play VRChat on a Quest. You can play it without a computer using the Quest’s CPU, or you can connect it to a computer and have your computer render the game. The native version of VRc is a little limited, you can meet Pc players but you will not see all content. Connecting to a Pc lets you see everything. @unique kiln
@gaunt bloom my usual method is convert the model to quads and then start selecting edges and use “dissolve selected edges” to simply the models. This method conserves shape keys and does not make it ugly like decimation.
I can usually get it down to around 8000 tris with this method and then beyond that you need to start making some choices and sacrifices.
haughty coyote
@obsidian zealot do you need a good computer like that runs VR
obsidian zealot
Only to play the pc version. Yes. It needs a good gaming pc. But a computer is still optional
I say if you plan to get a good gaming pc in the future Quest is a good buy since it can be both - pcVR and standalone console
haughty coyote
listen i uh got a party link cable
doesnt work
i have a omen
pls someone help i wasted 570 dollars on this
obsidian zealot
No need to use a third party cable anymore, they updated quest a week ago the charge cable works now @haughty coyote
haughty coyote
@haughty coyote well I'm getting the quest maybe with the link but of course it needs to run with a good gaming computer
obsidian zealot
Yeah they recommend a GTX 970 at the bare minimum
Don’t try to go lower it won’t work
royal dagger
Hiiii
violet rock
Is VRChat even good on quest (standalone)
raw sphinx
Hello! I managed to link VRchat to my PC through Virtual Desktop (Oculus Link doesn't work because my graphics card series isn't supported).
The audio is porting over to the headset, but for some reason, the microphone isn't detected by VR chat. Is there someway to enable it?
Err... sorry, this might be the wrong channel >< but... if anyone uses Virtual Desktop, do they have a suggestion for getting the microphone in the headset to be detected?
Oh, nevermind.. found the settings in the virtual desktop app. whoops
forest smelt
Dude idk what’s wrong but my credit chat freezes after sign in I tried reinstalling and still nothing still same thing freezing :/ help
Dm me please or ping me!!!
gaunt bloom
@cunning thicket when I try switching platforms it just says unity has stopped working what should I do?
cunning thicket
@gaunt bloom that's normal on mid-tier systems, just give it time to switch over and let it do it's thing
might take a few minutes to respond
gaunt bloom
It’s gives me the option to close the program do I just not doing anything and let it be
cunning thicket
yep, by chance what computer specs are you running?
gaunt bloom
Windows 10 it’s just my laptop hp
royal dagger
Hiiii
gaunt bloom
Does everything look all good
cunning thicket
in regards to what info you gave? I can only say that it makes sense it would be having a hard time, it is a laptop afterall, which probably will struggle running Unity stuff (sorta, really depends on the specs of the laptop)
devout zodiac
is oculus quest vrchat cross platform with pc or pc vr vrchat
haughty coyote
yes
devout zodiac
cool thanks
blazing sparrow
blender
marble marsh
Use decimation on it in blender.
Unlikely you'll be able to get it lower then 10k but still best to lower it as much as you can for Quest.
gaunt bloom
What if I don’t have blender is that the only way
compact hatch
bronze glade
@gaunt bloom point is. Learn 3D design to lower the poly count
rotund sigil
So I'm gonna buy a quest any game suggestions?
obsidian zealot
Don’t decimate in blender. Select the edge tool, start selecting some edges, hit X and pick “dissolve edges”.
Much better way to simplify models, does not make them jaggy and ugly, and does not break shape keys
jagged trench
yeah dissolving Edge Loops works a lot better
wary barn
@obsidian zealot ah the good old skip-one-edge-loop method
obsidian zealot
Yeah. Best part is shape keys continue to work perfectly as it never inserts new verts. The only thing you need to be careful of is to not dissolve any edge that is a UV seam
Can dissolve across them but not along them
It only takes slightly longer than decimation but you get to chose where to delete detail so the result is way better
wary barn
and it doesnt leave you with ugly triangles
obsidian zealot
70000 tris vs 5000 tris, dissolve edge tool only https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/442444657428004866/717815120608100392/image0.png
haughty coyote
undone flare
adeon writer, that is incredible
haughty coyote
ye
blazing sparrow
Could maybe use a texture for the removed things(shoelaces would definitely work as just a texture)
dire path
does anyone know any worlds that have white haired girls in wedding dresses avatars?
blazing sparrow
Otherwise EPIC
dire path
if you do then please dm me
haughty coyote
Are you just gonna have a wedding in VRchat??
dire path
@haughty coyote im going to be the maid of honor at a wedding
haughty coyote
I can’t tell if that’s cringe or kek
dire path
wdym
haughty coyote
Like an actually wedding in VRchat?
dire path
yea
someone’s having a wedding and they invited me to be the maid of honor
that’s why I asked the question up there
does anyone know any worlds that have white haired girls in wedding dresses avatars?
haughty coyote
That’s legit kinda cool also sorry I don’t know 😐
dire path
nevermind
idle fjord
who wants to hear how much im suffering with trying to import A SINGLE MODEL to VRChat for Quest?
*export
obsidian zealot
I do
idle fjord
Basically, I want to import a DIO version of myself as a model into VRChat. But i need to download a zip file with supported shader for Quest and whatnot. And a bunch of other stuff, just to where it doesn't end up working, but it did with the part with fixing the model in blender. I import the FBX file of the model from Blender to Unity, and the model is, of course, gray. I click apply on the thing that finds the atlas image with the materials combined, and still gray. and now I'm just slowly decreasing my sanity one tiny bit at a time 😦
how do i fix the material issue?
undone flare
you dont need to download a quest shader, afaik the only supported ones are in the sdk already
idle fjord
can i start a voice or video call so you can help me with the issue, @undone flare
undone flare
im a little busy rn sorry
idle fjord
dammit
obsidian zealot
Yeah the quest shaders are all included in the VRCSDK, they are the ones under VRChat/Mobile/ . All the ones in there work on quest
gaunt bloom
Hey so I can’t change the polygon count on blender because it’s an only unity model
Is there any other way
idle fjord
so the atlas wont work, but when i extract the materials from the one that i originally imported from VRoid, it works, but its all fucked up
this is what i want it to look like
this is what it ends up looking like when i have to select the folder with the individual materials from the vrm folder. Any solutions?
hello?
anyone?
jagged trench
I would note the Oculus Quest have no support for transparencies so you'll need to cut out those transparent bits into geometry
tawdry wyvern
Your model seem to use transparent texture. Vrchat Quest does not allow that on avatar.@idle fjord
You have a very bright directionnal lightm turn it down. For jojo character dont use a diffuse shader. Use a flat shaded one as unlit
For the eyesbrows. Use the knife tool to cut a rought shape around it.
terse ridge
Anyone that’s used kinects for full body on quest, how many kinects did you use?
marble marsh
You can only use one I'm pretty sure unless there was some recent software changes that allows the use of 2
terse ridge
okay
haughty coyote
Is VR Chat on the quest or do I need steam vr for that?
blazing sparrow
it's on quest
sick dove
How come I cant see peoples avatars?
marble marsh
Quest can't see a majority of avatars as most of them are PC avatars, while it would be possible to upload them to quest there would be some serious optimization needed to get most PC avatars to be quest compatible to avoid tanking performance.
sick dove
Ah, so nothing I can really do?
marble marsh
Well you can try showing their avatar to see if there is a Quest version that's just being performance blocked.
I wouldn't recommend going around doing this to everybody though.
obsidian zealot
The requirements for quest avatars are a lot stricter and people don’t feel like Making simpler, lower quality versions of their avatars for the quest to see so they just don’t bother at all
There’s no harm because the PC will still see the high-quality version but it’s extra work to maintain two separate versions of the avatar and most people don’t know how to optimize
So quest avatars are rare, well-made non-laggy quest avatars are even more rare
If you have a computer you can connect your quest to it and play the PC version and see everything, but that’s usually not the case for quest users who typically buy a quest because they don’t have a PC in the first place
haughty coyote
Why do i keep hearing that vrchat is removing particles from quest, i dont believe it but i want to check
obsidian zealot
Uh, I know particle shaders don’t work. But particle systems do. Obviously that means no cutout or partial transparent shaders.
If they block poor avatars others won’t see it though
I’m assuming most people create a particle system and don’t realize they can’t use the default particle shader
If you need particles that aren’t square you need to supply your own mesh shape for them
tawdry swift
Doesnt help that they allowed it previously, but removed it a while ago
breaking anything that had the particle shader
haughty coyote
Congrats
violet rock
Cant wait to try out vrchat
Is it good? This is my first actual vr headset
Graphics wise
vernal locust
Is anyone on that can help me really quick?
worthy pier
With what?
vernal locust
So when I open vr chat on my quest it loads up until when I see my acc name, but when I hit next it freezes. I tried re installing it and restarting my quest but it won't fix it:(
worthy pier
Umm does it need a update?
vernal locust
Nope
worthy pier
I'm not sure how to help sorry man
stuck dove
hey Rock
worthy pier
Yo
stuck dove
do u know THE rock?
worthy pier
The lame rock you mean? And no sadly...
queen matrix
@violet rock congrats
It's a solid all around and can be linked to pc in the future wired or wirelessly
haughty coyote
I usually use virtual desktop with my laptop on my quest to get on pc version of vrchat. So wireless connection with quest to pc is currently not impossible.
It's what I chose to do because my graphics card doesn't meet the requirements for oculus link.
bronze glade
@obsidian zealot I ussually dont bother because the majority of quest players I meet are either one time players and will never get above visitor or are 12 years old. And well I couldnt care less if people like that see my avatar.
its simply not worth my time trying to get a model under 10K
I have done it once and thats all I need
turbid lance
I'm looking to play with someone I am so bored and I just want to chill out at a private world or something chill because I am tried of all the trolls I am taking anyone please just please I am so bored and lonely that I have to play a game to feel happy (DM me)
tropic sphinx
Hey I just bought a quest, I want to use the link cable and connect to the PC. I don't have any 3.1 USB ports so my understanding is that it will lose battery faster than it will charge.
How can I get a 3.1 USB port, do I need an adapter or something?
obsidian zealot
You can just use the charge cable that comes with the quest.
It doesn’t have to be USB3
turbid lance
@tropic sphinx Either use the charging cable and set it up to work with 2.0 super easy or spend a bunch of money on a usb3 adapter your choice 🙂
obsidian zealot
I have spent money on three different quest cables and none of them worked better than the charge cable they are all indistinguishable save your money and just use the charge cable
obsidian zealot
That’s one of the ones I have
Like I said wasn’t any better than the charge cable
In fact the charge cable was lighter so I prefer it
obsidian zealot
It does need a USBC port. If that’s what you were saying you don’t have, that’s unfortunate, any form of USBA will NOT charge the quest. It will die in 2 hours.
turbid lance
Any USB with work
Will work with link its just with the charing not being supported
I have party link
obsidian zealot
Any usb will work but only USB-C will charge it while playing. Party link is USB-C, same as the charge cable. The charge cable is only 2.0, but that’s bandwidth, it still charges fine.
turbid lance
Got it
obsidian zealot
USBC is the tiny, flipable oval plug
USBA is.. the port everyone knows as USB
It sucks that Universal Serial Bus can’t be, you know, universal.
tropic sphinx
Sorry I'm still a little confused, if I plug my charging cable in to my USB 3.0 port will it charge faster than it will drain battery? Or do I need a 3.1 USB port to charge faster than the drain?
obsidian zealot
@tropic sphinx 3.0 and 2.0 make no difference. USB-C ports will charge the quest and USB-A ports will not
The charge cable that comes with the quest, if connected to a PC and used as a link cable, will charge faster than the quest gets used, so it won't go dead. if you use a USB-A adaptor, it won't charge at all.
I believe there are some cables that will let the quest charge over USB-A, but it's not a fast charge and you'll still run the battery down, which isn't good for the quest
obsidian zealot
I was answering UncacompaniedDog's question?
turbid lance
mate you already said it
turbid lance
True 
haughty coyote
I appreciate the extra information. I just assumed it was just 2.0/3.0 dependant and not port type. So the information is appreciated
sturdy musk
Anyone on quest have trouble loading the "Courtroom" game?
I tried twice to load it and I got those black pixels on my screen until I restarted my quest
mint drum
I'm pissed I thought I found a quest for only 329.99 I click it and it becomes 600 like wtf
These are both the same thing the price changes.
dark hearth
@mint drum u sure the first one isn't a 64GB one bc the second one is 128
mint drum
I'm pretty sure because wcl8cking the image on there brings you to that amazon page
tropic sphinx
@obsidian zealot Thank you very much for the image and the help, clearly I need to install USB C via PCI then. Thanks again!
obsidian zealot
@mint drum I would strongly recommend not buying VR headsets from third party vendors. Every day I see posts on reddit saying people got scammed. Buy directly from Oculus, or if you use a third party site, make sure Oculus is the vendor, not some other company. The price will always be exactly 399 or 499. No one is selling the Quest at a loss. NO ONE.
opaque lodge
@obsidian zealot i got my quest for a low price from bestbuy cus i beta tested some things its noice
obsidian zealot
You were also given the headset from Bestbuy, not some random unknown company
obsidian zealot
Quest Microphone echos very bad over Oculus Link. Doesn't happen on native app
worthy bramble
hey, im poor, does anyone have a suggestion for a vr headset?
undone flare
i already gave a suggestion in the public lobby
worthy bramble
oh
lusty vector
@vernal locust hey, I know your problem is from 2 days ago but just need to confirm something
so you see Logging in as <your username>... then the panel disappears and the game freezes/hangs?
I used to have that issue but it was fixed with software version v17 I think it was
so check if your Quest has an update available
if that's not what you're problem is can you please explain?
vernal locust
Yeah I just logged on and it was fixed @lusty vector
lusty vector
Oh cool, your Quest probably auto-updated or the problem fixed itself after restarting or something of the likes
devout gust
Hello, i got my quest yesterday but i just found that I can t use vr chat worlds with images and musics ( karaoke ), someone know how we can use karaoke worlds on quest ?
if i use quest link , does it work ?
marble marsh
Standalone quest can't load videos or images from an external source in VRChat (like the internet) hardcoded / embedded videos will work however.
PC can so yes if you link your Quest to a PC it'll work.
prisma quiver
Consider a wig
tropic sphinx
I just started playing VRchat with my oculus link, but all I see are the robot dummies with error. Is it not possible to see their avatars somehow?
molten sluice
I just uploaded my first avatar and it says on the website that the avatar is uploaded to my account but when I go into my avatars I see my personal avatar tab for a split second and it disappears. Anyone know why? Could it be a problem with the avatar or unity version I’m using
mint drum
@tropic sphinx If you use oculus link I think you have to open the game on steam, not the quest shop if you were doing that. If not idk what's wrong
obsidian zealot
@haughty coyote In blender select the edge tool, select all of the edges around the hole and press F (‘fill’) it will place an N-Gon there with the correct part of the texture, or at least it’s best guess, you may want to triangulate the N-gon afterward
Oops that was meant for @burnt siren
That’s assuming it’s actually a hole and not just your skull poking through it
worthy bramble
do u think oculas quest for $400 is the the best i can get for $400
sleek viper
depends on what your needs are
do you like portability? do you have a vr ready pc? etc etc
if you don't mind staying tethered and have a good rig spend that on a rift S. If you want to be able to show VR off to friends, or not have to deal with wires frequently get a Quest.
You also have the ability to link with Quest to access rift library titles but you still deal with some limitations the quest has with refresh rates.
violet rock
Honestly you should buy a quest if you own a pc
Good portability, and if you want pcvr games just use link
sleek viper
I typically recommend a quest because the amount of support it has as well. The Rift S is very likely to be a forgotten child as the newer quest is released that will probably only improve everything overall while maintaining portability.
violet rock
The refresh rates arent really a problem if your someone who uses 60hz monitor or low refresh rates in general
sleek viper
There is an argument to be made that a higher refresh rate is closer to a true-life immersion but there isn't enough titles that really utilize that high refresh rate to achieve it.
Ultimately you are spending a good chunk of money and it's better that you have more options, and the quest technically has more options overall.
haughty coyote
The difference between rift S and quest link is definitely noticable in side by side comparison, but that's not saying that if all you use is a quest link that you won't be immersed.
Lost of differences between VR systems are only really noticable when you go back and forth between them
sleek viper
That's pretty much how the convo typically goes. There is obviously differences but if you have neither you should start with two ws: is your pc vr ready? do you want to be permanently tethered or be able to be wireless?
haughty coyote
I still much prefer rift S over quest link, but I would still also recommend quest with link if someone wants a good all around system
sleek viper
The rift S is the better unit spec wise, but it doesn't have portability so if that is what you want it gets eliminated from the options pretty quickly.
haughty coyote
Hoping the new quest has a direct connection to the GPU for low latency. That paired with the 90hz display would be perfect
sleek viper
I'm guessing it'll be a vast improvement across the board. Facebook as a company is questionable but they are pumping a lot of money into the oculus lineup and quest sales are through the roof during quarantine.
the fact there is a link option that now pairs with 2.0 instead of just c and 3.0 means even more people accessing rift titles too
big money making capability with it
haughty coyote
Yeah. For me input lag is one of the hardest hitters for VR immersion. That's why I personally wasn't a huge fan of quest link even now. But different things stand out to different people. Others feel they need OLED displays where as I don't really like the smear and pentile pixel in OLED, and preferred the fast switch LCD
The best way to choose is to try them yourself ^-^
sleek viper
I'm also big on refresh rate and input lag so i'm with you there.
Also 100%. You just have to try them. A lot of people hate how uncomfy the quest can be due to the weight of the hmu. Some also don't like the wire pulling from the rift. Won't know till you physically play with them for a few hours.
haughty coyote
Wires hanging off the side. 
I usually end up modifying my headsets in some way.
sleek viper
I can't stand wires. I'm all about dancing and I end up tangled quite often.
I thought about mods but too anxious to pull the trigger on spending.
haughty coyote
I do often wish I still had a quest for just day to day use. I find I only set up my rift s on evenings some days, where as the quest u would have used just to put on for a few minutes at a time
Friction getting into VR is definitely something to consider
lyric comet
Anyone want to be my friend on quest? I know no one who has it
sleek viper
@haughty coyote it's definitely handy if you just want to lay down and chat or watch videos too. Feels awkward to do so with the rift sometimes.
burnt siren
are there any good quest only worlds?
obsidian zealot
@haughty coyote I don't have a Rift S, but I have found there is a little more friction jumping into VR on Quest compared to CV1. Then again I usually left my Rift plugged in all the time so I just put it on my head. Quest has like a 15 second boot time if it was powered off, and then you have to ask it to connect to your computer if you're doing PC VRC which is another 10 seconds or so before PC Oculus Home pops up
Jumping in the quest version is pretty fast though. :P
haughty coyote
For me I always disconnect my rift s otherwise my system defaults to playing sound through the headset speakers and picking things up through the mic
Not a big deal, but yeah
obsidian zealot
If you use SteamVR, it's probably doing it. there's an option to make it stop touching what your default audio device is in windows
quest did the same until i changed it
sleek viper
@haughty coyote did you check the audio settings
Also do you have headphones connected? Is it connected through link?
Need more info
unique kiln
Would I be able to play with someone on pc? I’ll be on a quest, sorry I’m new to this
marble marsh
Yes, but as for seeing their avatar that's a different story.
lusty vector
quest and PC are cross-platform for VRChat, however as Eternal Ohm said you might not be able to see their avatar, Quest has limitations for what can and cannot be uploaded and a lot of avatars are not uploaded with a Quest version
some worlds are also not cross-platform but most are
obsidian zealot
Quest and PC can play together if the creator of the avatars and worlds provided Windows and Android builds of their content. Otherwise they are exclusive to their respective platforms.
On the whole, most are not cross platform, actually.
Almost all quest content is cross-play, but very little Pc content is cross-play
jolly cove
Some of my favorite worlds are cross platform and I'm a Rift S user
haughty coyote
@sleek viper yes i did
haughty coyote
@proper nacelle
brittle crystal
The Quest version should get hand tracking support.
tropic sphinx
But can quest with Link see all avatars? I mostly can, but sometimes I see the yellow and grey crash test dummy robots with the error sign on their chest.
obsidian zealot
Yes, quest with link sees everything. The game just believes a rift S is being used.
The yellow robots you describe are broken or deleted avatars, other pc users see it too.
grave flicker
Would you guys recommend using the Charger as an Link or buying an actual link
obsidian zealot
Just use the charger. There is no difference.
obsidian zealot
Placebo
Quest link bandwidth fits on the charge cable with room to spare, official link cable doesn’t use any more. Same data flow
grave flicker
Ok. Might become a PC player soon depending if this laptop I’m getting is strong enough
obsidian zealot
You need the equivalent of a gtx 970 at minimum or oculus home won’t run
grave flicker
I don’t know the stuff in it, but my cousin told me that it was a pretty high end laptop.
1k, 2014.
obsidian zealot
The only reason to buy the official quest link cable is if you believe that at some point in the future oculus will add a higher bandwidth mode to quest link. But for now the greater bandwidth of the official link cable is not utilized.
grave flicker
Alright. Thank you
obsidian zealot
2014 is cutting it close. Laptops tend to have integrated graphic cards. Good luck.
Oh wait a minute. A 2014 laptop isn’t going to have a USB-C port. >_>
grave stratus
does anyone have an avatar of the puppet from fnaf 2 optimized for quest
haughty coyote
weird request but has anyone ever seen a cloneable ladybug avatar or another small bug (~1 foot maybe)
is there any kind of avatar database outside of the game i can look at for this stuff
btw how small or big can an avatar even get
blazing sparrow
With that coversation about Oculus Link happening before, I have something to add, the Quest’s display is technically a 90htz display, but it limited to 72htz, if they add a high bandwidth mode, they should allow 90hz with it.
That’d be pretty epic imo
golden lion
I've noticed with the newest update, or last update, im not sure to be honest, anyway some particles or something appear as square. anyone know what's up with that? 🙂
violet lodge
Imagine thinking that at everyone isn't disabled
undone flare
man the trolls here suck at being trolls
austere island
Can they fix the particles instead of releasing another fucking pc patch ??????
Quest is unneeded God that makes me fucking angry
obsidian zealot
What do you mean by "fix the particles"? Particles are currently working. You must use an allowed shader. The default particle shader is not allowed.
Use only ones from VRchat/Mobile/
They're not going to add shaders with transparency or cutout if that's what you mean
amber quail
Hi
tawdry wyvern
We have too reupload with the new particle shader. To have the transparent back?
Because my old upload are now opaque
obsidian zealot
To my knowledge there is no transparent shaders on Quest.
If you need particles that are not square you have to make your own shape
@thin loom Quest world selection is limited.
past gate
Hey I’m looking for any one to be friends with
golden lion
im having a problem with how my Avatar is positioned, I think my headset is in my avatars chest atm, I think this only because I can barley see my menu buttons, idk how to fix it, can I get some ideas on how to Fix? 🙂
wide pagoda
If I'm not mistaken, you should be able to fix it by changing your height.
golden lion
I tried that, didn't fix anything :/
it's been like 891 days since Vrchat has been on quests. and yet I still ask, why does it feel like quest users get the short end of the stick. if you can talk to someone on PC from quest, why can't you see there averter. I also think the Vrchat for quest need little more attention, because it seems like there's a lot of bad reviews in quest. I'm not trying to start anything, just saying what I've seen alot of.
marble marsh
As for not seeing PC players avatar it's because a quest version of an avatar needs to be uploaded but most will just upload only a PC version of their avatar and call it a day.
Since uploading a quest version of an avatar will likely make it bland and not that interesting for the amount of work you need to do on optimizing it most users don't see this as worth their time plus most PC users may run into a small amount of quest users or not at all further distancing them from uploading a Quest version of their avatar.
golden lion
so then what would be the point of having it be cross compatible servers? besides the point of talking to a pc User. might as well just have VR server be the main thing, for quest that is. with the newest update and all, the seemed to remove sounds and light partials from avatars. which I could understand for performance reasons. but now things are just big Square which is more annoying then what they had before.
marble marsh
The quest is using Mobile hardware, expecting it to display most PC avatars without performance issues is insanity as PC already struggles with it a bit because of unoptimized avatars even without that restriction there's the fact that Quest (Android) can't open / use an avatar or world that was compiled / uploaded to another platform (such as windows)
As for the squares, if you're talking about particles that's likely due to particle shaders and their transparency being disabled as again the Quest is running Mobile Hardware and it struggles a bit with transparency but PC generally has no such issues with transparency.
The quest on VRChat is primarily for socializing with others and not much else due to it's limitations.
golden lion
fair point, my question is do you think this will change?
marble marsh
I think this is something the devs want to do but it's quite a technical challenge on getting that to work, well at least getting Quest to show PC avatars.
golden lion
also still can't figure out how to fix my model. changing the my size does nothing, I can barrly see my hands
my game crashed and it was stuck like that
marble marsh
Is it across all avatars or just one?
golden lion
2 of them
both smaller size, I've tried everything I know.
I was sitting when it crashed and broke them. so idk if it has to do with me sitting or what.
marble marsh
hmm you aren't in seated / standing mode in VRChat are you? Like using the wrong one for what you're doing.
My best guess is your height is incorrect in one way or another or the view position is incorrect in Unity.
golden lion
I was in seated mode when I was sitting and then it crashed.
I really hope I don't have to uninstall the game, to reinstall it to fix it
austere island
It's not just the cutout even the emmision is not working
If you put MOBILE particle shader on something it's dark
lime fjord
wait guys since thermal energy can come from kenetic energy, if you slap a chicken at speeds and power over 3000 mph, youll cook it
obsidian zealot
Standard lite has diffuse, normal, emission, metallic, and smoothness, and option for speculators highlights.
frozen ember
As of about a week ago any time I try to boot up VRChat on Quest I get a crash to Black Screen just after the login page. I am unable to do anything and have to restart my quest to even get back to my home screen. I have uninstalled and redownloaded more than once, but still crash every time. Any ideas?
tiny sparrow
Anyone know how to fix a glitch?
It takes me home and says teleported to home because system memory is full.
Also anyone know how to get rid of avatar blocked for good?
terse flame
Hi I have a question too..can u use Media Players with the quest...to watch yt or movies with friends?
dreamy ether
Yo
Can someone help me, I just got a quest (64) I downloaded Vrchat and when I get into the starter world everything blinks black and back to normal with extreme lag
lusty vector
Hi I have a question too..can u use Media Players with the quest...to watch yt or movies with friends?
@terse flame pretty sure external media players in VRChat aren't available on Quest
dreamy ether
If you don’t allow quest to access your mic, it’ll put an endless loop of errors and reloading that was the problem.
✅
bright sapphire
leaden stump
Struggling to get an oculus quest cuz they're sold out ;-;-;-;
tribal igloo
@golden lion that hand glitch can be fixed by going into a world called "The room of the sleep"
golden lion
I fixed it, but thanks for letting me know mate! ❤️
tribal igloo
also i do have a quest so if anyone wants i can try to answer questions
oh nice
if you on btw soulstorm im in a world called Yeet
feral pollen
If i use oculus link am i still technically quest or am i now pc
obsidian zealot
PC. Everyone will see you as a PC user.
I regularly get told I’m not using a Quest lol
But this channel can still be used for quest link specific questions and discussion
But it isn’t the main focus
feral pollen
Ok but can i use pc avatars useing link?
lavish tendon
you guys know how to fix the "make sure your device has internet and restart" problem
my device has pretty fast internet
also have to reinstall oculus because the oculus link suddenly stopped working this morning
after it working all day yesterday
obsidian zealot
@feral pollen VRChat on Quest Link is the PC version, there is no difference between it and Vive or Index etc. you see everything, and can go everywhere.
The stripped down Quest version is only when playing without a PC
proper apex
So do you get used to the quest/vr. Finally got mine yesterday and after an hr of playtime I kinda felt sick. My eyes hurt and pretty sure I had some motion sickness.
fading karma
as soon as i join vrchat (entering the world) the game was lagging so hard that the screen sometimes went black for a second, and this is without a pc
obsidian zealot
The quest is a little comfortable for me, I had to put a counterweight on the back before I could stay in vr for longer than an hour or so. But now it’s fine. As for motion sick, try to turn comfort turning on or off. Some find it better on, others feel more comfortable with it off.
queen matrix
Did they completely Break the Particles on quest?
haughty coyote
counterweight is crucial to quest use for long periods of time. it digs into your face and hurts your neck otherwise (at least for me)
and the motion sickness in vrchat is completely gone for me after two or three days of light use, just take breaks and take it easy and see how you feel
zinc skiff
Would you be able to use a pc link with a Surface pro 5 or 6 bc I’ve been wanting a vr headset but I only have my laptop rn T~T
haughty coyote
Quest is back in stock right now
woeful cypress
Surface doesn't have enough power due to integrated graphics. So no.
mint drum
Quest is not back in stock for me Socio
obsidian zealot
@queen matrix unless something changed recently, particle systems work fine, particle shaders do not. Use a whitelisted shader on your particles. If you need a shape that isn’t square, supply your own mesh particle.
frozen hedge
Because it's a mobile platform running a game which relies 100% on user generated content that needs to be highly optimized for use with the platform
obsidian zealot
VRChat, and user content created games in general, go totally against everything mobile gaming has as best practices. Dynamically loaded content, lack of optimization, separate materials across all models.. it’s a wonder VRChat works on a mobile chipset on the first place.
Keep in mind when it was announced for the quest, everyone thought it was a joke and that it would not even be possible.
What we need is performance ranks for worlds, too.
pallid storm
Oh hi Sasha
inner hazel
hi
jagged trench
yeah it's definitely a miracle that the quest vrchat works at all given the content requirements for mobile
undone flare
^ people ask for so much but they need to lower their expectations
proud lantern
Why can't I send anything to #657394610913411084
haughty coyote
Can someone please explain to me why they have a quest instead of a Rift S? Aside from the portability aspects, the more I read about the quest, the more I see it being ideal but at the same time idk if the Rift S has better graphics just because it's connected to a pc
The rift S does have better graphics, both because it is connected directly to your GPU, higher refresh, and because it has more subpixels, allowing for a noticably sharper image.
That said, some prefer the quest since it can be used as both a portable device and for PC. So that slight graphical downgrade is worth the trade-off for some
So here's something that confuses me
You can connect it to your pc but it still has worse graphics than the Rift S?
The quest uses pentile pixels, these have less physical subpixels than the RGB system that rift S uses.
Also the quest connects over usb and isn't directly connected to your GPU. The computer renders the image, compresses it, and sends a video stream over the cable to your quest, where it decodes it and renders the image. The rift is is just a direct peripheral controlled by your gpu
Okay that makes sense
I really appreciate you explaining this to me ( :
Np
It's honestly sort of like the Switch and the Switch lite
Yeah
slim wing
yall i just found the wirdest shiz
marble cradle
Lay it on us
worldly rapids
Must've been too weird to share
calm arch
When I plug my quest link in do I see pc skins?
obsidian zealot
You will see everything. Using Steam is also not needed for quest link. It works better without Steam actually
Steam with quest link is only needed for fullbody
haughty coyote
Pretty much with the Quest Link your Oculus Quest becomes the Rift S
tawdry wyvern
yes
obsidian zealot
In edge selection mode, hold alt while left clicking an edge.
To select multiple loops, hold alt and shift while left clicking additional edges
This works better when model is made of quads, it does not understand flow around triangles and will just stop at them
worthy dune
my model has both quads and tris aaa
obsidian zealot
you can use the command tris to quads to convert the model to quads, but it's a destructive command so be careful it fused them the way you want.
worthy dune
thanks for the help bud
hexed sage
lol out loud
haughty coyote
@dusky cosmos #moderation-reports
weak flicker
Yo anyone wanna play cards against humanity?
haughty coyote
@weak flicker is there a quest compatible cards against humanity
weak flicker
Yea
haughty coyote
I’ve literally got no friends on quest. Can I have people’s users?
obsidian zealot
<— Same name
lusty vector
same name
haughty coyote
I added you all
dark hearth
I'm looking for people to play VR Chat with I'm very board and don't got friends on the quest
haughty coyote
Did they fix the game for the Quest yet?
violet cave
hi
haughty coyote
@dark hearth what’s your user I’ll add you?
dark hearth
@haughty coyote do u want my Oculus name or vrchat name?
haughty coyote
Do oculus? @dark hearth
dark hearth
My Oculus is Kendomitoy
haughty coyote
I’m not on oculus now but I will be on
dark hearth
Cool
marble snow
past isle
playing vrchat with oculus link (3.0) is much better and i recommend to play with link instead of standalone if you have a good pc, i have a 3.1 port and it works pretty good my pc is pretty powerful too of course, i will never play vrchat standalone again maybe when it's fixed but i won't hope for that. from the other side its awesome to play wireless vrchat but it just sucks. lack of content, frame drops, etc
obsidian zealot
Personally I couldn’t see a difference between Oculus Link cable and the default charge cable. Both looked the same. But yes both are worlds better than the standalone client. But not everyone has a PC
violet cave
Hi
plucky barn
Why when I blocked someone talking about doxing someone and threatening ppl n shit. Why did I get portals continuously in my face saying "why u block me??"
blazing sparrow
record a video and then submit it to #vrchat-support
plucky barn
I already blocked and left
blazing sparrow
It'd be on the vrchat webstie
plucky barn
All at once in the convo
frozen hedge
They're using mods then
If you have it recorded and have proof, you can report them for that and get them banned
plucky barn
I didn't get it, I just blocked and left in case they tried to find my shit
Not taking chances
frozen hedge
Best thing you can do really
blazing sparrow
on the vrchat website, you can find their screen name
plucky barn
How do I do thag
blazing sparrow
https://www.vrchat.com/home/playermoderations
sign in and it should be at the top of the list or close to it
blazing sparrow
then merge it
blazing sparrow
make an account and merge the oculus one with the vrchat one
it's saves your things.
plucky barn
Oh?
blazing sparrow
favourites, trust level, other stuff and you can upload content so do it
blazing sparrow
You have to sign into vrchat with your current account
go to settings.
then something along the lines of 'merge account' or something, I can't remember
then follow the instructions, wait for an hour or two, then go to the block and mutes on the site.
plucky barn
I think I did it
Yeah I did it!
I'll try to remember to do this an hour from now
Sorry q.q as soon as I heard them talking about doxing and having photos of the exact house and place someone lived in, I blocked and ran.
People can get killed from doxing. And im not risking my families safety even if its a fluke
blazing sparrow
It could take less than an hour though
blazing sparrow
@plucky barn been about an hour, you should check it now
blazing sparrow
Write the names down, then try and track down the people, making sure to be recording in any way possible.
blazing sparrow
if you go into the world and the portals appear, you can report them with that.
And the thing is, how do you know it's real?
plucky barn
How do I know it’s not?
blazing sparrow
But if they have your info, you should try report them with what you have anyway.
plucky barn
He spoke of finding someone’s exact trailer and shit, I won’t risk it. I absolutely refuse to get my family in danger if it is true
blazing sparrow
well... report them with what you've got
or use a vpn to change you location or something
blazing sparrow
it's unlikely that they'll be banned without something like video proof, however there's still a chance
plucky barn
Two guys were telling him it’s bs and it’s wrong to do that and they started yelling, I left as soon as I blocked em all. When I heard no more talk of doxxing I blocked and left
I can’t transfer video proof from my quest to my phone I think, I don’t have comp
blazing sparrow
: /
you could stream to the oculus app and screen record you're phone
and also record the mic.
plucky barn
Idk how to do all that. Audio doesn’t come from the streaming from when we tried
blazing sparrow
I know.
Just do your best to try.
Without proof, the mods won't do anything
but they might
plucky barn
I’m not approaching them, if you’d like do go right ahead. I can send the tags and you can block them and try to figure out which has the mod