#quest-general

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patent stump
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sonic knoll
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wheat breach
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hey guys i am thinking to buy a quest and wanted to ask if its worth for vr chat

sonic knoll
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If a Quest is your only option for VR, go for it.

  • A Quest User
wheat breach
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Okey thanks are there any things i should know about vr chat quest

sonic knoll
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If you want to see as many people's avatars as possible, set your Safety settings to Poor. But even then, you probably won't be able to see everyone's.

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But for Quest compatible avatars that are "below poor", click on them and select "show avatar", if you're fine putting your performance at risk.

wheat breach
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okey thanks that was very helpful

sonic knoll
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Took me a little bit to figure out myself, but thanks to some helpful strangers, I got there.

wheat breach
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all i could find on the internet was that vrchat on quest is so restricted

pseudo token
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If only all the very poor avatars were at least barely below very poor ranking stats. Usually just having one of those is equal to 6+ excellent or good ranked avatars.

marble field
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Wait so if they have like that silly avatar without legs and arms does that mean they are blocked by quest?

tawdry wyvern
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If you see that robot on quest its ether performance blocked or not upload on the android platform if you see a photo on the chest.

woven falcon
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hey it wont let me make a vrchat account

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it just says verification expired check the checkbox again

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:/

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how do i fix it?

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oh fixed now

blazing sparrow
candid geode
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hello

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do u like scary stories join my chat at scary stories in chats

candid geode
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no

haughty rivet
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I heard avatars with (!) will be pc only soon

haughty coyote
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Where did you hear that?

keen patrol
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doubt

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that's not even how the software works

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even if vrcPerfVeryPoor was completely blocked on Quest it wouldn't magically become a PC avatar. it would just cease to have a purpose entirely

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Quest avatars are Android and PC is PC

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you can't see quest avatars on PC unless you uploaded a doppel

ornate summit
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Hi

pseudo token
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I thought everybody knew those (!) avatars will be coming soon*(tm)*

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(also known as Valve time)

fathom delta
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i'm gonna work for Chat Mod

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i'm gonna turn on notifications on this server..

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oh god

obsidian zealot
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You can have avatars that are excellent on Pc and very poor on quest. You can have one excellent on Quest and very poor on Pc. They are separate models. You only know how it is rated for your platform. The other platform has different requirements and is also a separate model entirely

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For example my main avatar is 32k tris on Pc (excellent) and 7.5K on Quest (medium)

civic root
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Lmao tiger, you tried. I already told you I don’t care

slate torrent
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hi

civic root
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Ares, if you wanna talk tomorrow I’m always open

noble aurora
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hi

strange pendant
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Hi

patent stump
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mystic marlin
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Hi everyone loving vrchat on quest. Is video player not enabled on quest?would love to chill out in my home environment with some video.

blazing sparrow
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It's disabled due to idk

mystic marlin
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Wonder if having it enabled only in home environment with only yourself in the room could free up some resources for the video.

blazing sparrow
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no

mystic marlin
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Ok thanks for infoa

cyan skiff
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is this the main vrchat discord?

subtle rose
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ye

crisp raft
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ho

worthy pier
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Hello, I have a question. I want to make avatars and I am on the quest. But I logged in through my oculus account. But on the vrchat website it seems I cant log in through the oculus account. Will I have to create a whole new account?

sonic knoll
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Log into VRchat, go into your settings and follow the steps to Upgrade Account.

worthy pier
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Alright

sonic knoll
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Basically, you should end up creating a VRChat account and "merge the accounts". Don't worry about losing any of your Favorites on Oculus, though. As long as the newly created VRChat account doesn't have any Favorites when you merge them, they should all transfer over fine.

worthy pier
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Well

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When I entered the token it said my oculus account is invalid to merge

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@sonic knoll

sonic knoll
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I didn't know that could happen.

worthy pier
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It says "the source accout is invalid for merging"

woeful cypress
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Are you by any chance still logged in wiht the oculus account?

worthy pier
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Yes

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Am I expose too log out before I merge?

woeful cypress
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I'd think so.

worthy pier
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Alright

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Ok so I re read the information it merged but it told me it didn't. I entered the info to sign in it did merge.

woeful cypress
worthy pier
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Ok o now have another question

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Could someone make a avatar for me

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My pc wont allow me cause it loads to slow then randomly closes

sonic knoll
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You probably won't be able to find anyone willing to do that for free any time soon.

worthy pier
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Uhh I keep getting notified to watch my language when I dont type anything wrong

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Ok I see what's the issue

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I'm asking a perso to get a model not create one or add anything to it. It shouldn't take that long

woeful cypress
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The website you're trying to name is banned from here

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for various reasons.

worthy pier
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Yep I figured

sonic knoll
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Lemme guess, Rule 12?

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I was wondering why that rule was in place, as I don't think I'd heard of it before reading the rule, but if talking about it is against the rules, well, what're ya gonna do? 🤷

raw mica
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Is getting a quest worth it or should i just save up for a pc?

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Cus i heard its kinda bugged

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Oh someone asked before

warped forge
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where, because i am wondering as well

raw mica
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Lemme quote it

worthy pier
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On vrchat yes you have quite the problems but to me the feeling if being there but having crashes or black screens is better then not experiencing. But vr chat is the only game I've had crash or bugged on me due too it being a large game.

raw mica
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hey guys i am thinking to buy a quest and wanted to ask if its worth for vr chat
@wheat breach

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Yeh cus my laptop (not gaming) that i have has for years cant even play minecraft

warped forge
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my laptop can run it. but it cant run any map above 50 mb.

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it crashes. most of the time. and im getting sick of it

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thank you for quoting btw

raw mica
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Np haha

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I mean, vrchat in aactual vr is probably a really good experience, but im a really visual person so idk about not being able to see a lot avatars

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Im that person who works on their skin more than playing the actual game

worthy pier
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Well it's not like on quest you cant see all of the avatars but its diffrent. It does suck sometimes but really I have no problem with it. The only issues I've found while playing is the crashing and how limited our avatars can be. It's a huge swich from avatars if you dont have any quest compatible ones. I do recommend the quest but you need to get used to it

raw mica
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Got it, thanks :)

worthy pier
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And it's a amazing experience like I cant say that enougu

warped forge
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vr has been a dream of mine to experience. but will i be able to hear everyone on the qiest? im assuming so since thats a big part of the game

sonic knoll
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Def get a Quest instead of saving up for a PC first. If it took you a couple months to save $400, it might take you years to afford a super-powerful VR-compatible gaming PC, in addition to a VR headset.

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Yes, you should be able to hear everyone you meet, regardless of avatar.

sonic knoll
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Isn't there a "Go to Default Home" button?

obsidian zealot
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You can't hit it fast enough

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it's a very fast loading loop that keeps blacking and resetting your sensors

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it happens before you can even type in your username

sonic knoll
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What if you tried disconnecting from your wi-fi first?

obsidian zealot
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It's a quest

sonic knoll
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I'm aware.

obsidian zealot
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Access to the wifi router isn't always possible, it can be used in places that aren't home networks

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I can solve my own problem this isn't about that

sonic knoll
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This isn't about that? I mentioned that so hopefully it would make the game load longer, giving you more time to press the Default Home button.

obsidian zealot
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I already fixed the issue

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I'm just bug reporting

sonic knoll
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Okay then.

raw mica
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Def get a Quest instead of saving up for a PC first. If it took you a couple months to save $400, it might take you years to afford a super-powerful VR-compatible gaming PC, in addition to a VR headset.
@sonic knoll

If you build Ur own vr ready pc, it can be £600-£1200, cheaper than a prebuilt. I get like £40 a week and I ain't really in a rush, I turn 16 this year so I can get a better paying job as well. I could probably get it by next year cus of Chinese New year's money, Christmas, bday and stuff like that. Plus I'm looking to play other games as well, without crashing ;-;

obsidian zealot
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the average user will just be "oh, i guess the quest version doesn't work"

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Because I can guess a good handful of first time VR users on quest will have played the desktop version before and have homes set to PC-only worlds

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and that means that quest VRChat will only work for the very first session, due to the tutoral, then the next time they try to log in, and get sent to their true home, endless loop

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prob should detect the lack of supported platform and auto redirect to default home

haughty coyote
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oof

worthy pier
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I need help again xD

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Wait nvm

haughty coyote
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hi. i need help everybody! I really want to install VRChat but I don't have a PC. I only have iPad and cell phone. I can't find VRChat. if someone can tell me how to install on ipad or cell phone I thank you and very

quasi pendant
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VRChat cannot be installed on mobile or ipad

woeful cypress
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Also, please do not ping that role (or any other) for things like that.

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You can only play VRChat on either a windows PC (that is powerfull enough) or the Oculus Quest.
Neither your iPad nor cellphone will be able to install VRChat and run it.

tawdry swift
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@sudden crater rule 15

mystic marlin
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Is there a way to move the main settings panel. I find having to look down all the time creating strain on my neck.

haughty coyote
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bonjour je suis Français il y a des serveur Français svp

haughty coyote
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@haughty coyoteheyyy

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Chui fr aussi

woeful cypress
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Please use the -> #french <- channel for speaking in French cirComfy

mystic umbra
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is it possible to see other pc users avatars

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or to use full body tracking

tawdry wyvern
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yes if the model is upload on the android platform of unity.

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and no

mystic marlin
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The fixed foveated rendering seems too narrow can see the blurred edges in side of my eyes. If could increase it a little so it's out of vision be great

tame vessel
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Can someone help me get a Splatoon Inkling avatar?

blazing sparrow
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You can just find one on the internet.

tame vessel
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Ok thanks

haughty coyote
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my avatar was stuck bent down and the arms, body and menu would disappear when they barely got close to me, any fixes

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I reset the quest twice

haughty coyote
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fixed the problem but the arms still disappear in front of my face

civic root
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that's bc it's in the quest sensor's blindspot

haughty coyote
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Does anyone know of a spooky quest avatar that can jumpscare?

half mirage
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Hello

haughty coyote
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Yo

viscid fern
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does anyone have a persona 3 protagonist avatar that I can copy

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I am super desperate

proud phoenix
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I messed up

glossy wagon
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do you think they will come out with an up-to-date hardware Quest
then again it might cost more then a top notch ROG tower

proud phoenix
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Big time

proud phoenix
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Guys my game isint turning off

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Nvm

sonic knoll
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I think the Quest is plenty powerful enough already for its price. It's probably stronger than any PC I've had in the past, and will still probably be stronger than any PC I'll have for a while.

elder pecan
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What kind of PCs do you have RuuuThunk

loud rover
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Something I’m looking for? A Jojo character with an actual stand. I CANT FIND ANY

elder pecan
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that would be a bit too much for quest

loud rover
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Maybe

sonic knoll
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I use a Lenovo laptop which maybe cost about $300 dollars and sometimes lags a little when I play Minecraft Bedrock edition.

elder pecan
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ah so a laptop, not a pc SataniaThumbsUp

mystic apex
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Hello

sacred jewel
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Hallo

honest basalt
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Hi can anyone help me when I join vrchat on my quest it says there is no internet connection but it is connected it worked fine yesterday I’m not sure how to fix this

zenith mason
honest basalt
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Thank you !

zenith mason
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You're welcome 😁

obsidian zealot
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The only thing I don’t like about VRChat on quest is it doesn’t run at the Quest’s native resolution. It looks blockier than any other game on Quest. Wish there was a way to address that.

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I suppose that was to allow slightly more unoptimized content but I would prefer better resolution at the expense of more strict UGC optimization

haughty coyote
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Is anybody else getting a glitch that blocks and mutes your friends and makes you unable to see them, they are completely invisible?

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@haughty coyote its just a bug.... it happens time to time just click hide avatar and show avatar and it will be back to normal

heady basin
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how to fix this? i use lts 2017.4.28f1 (new project and new sdk)

elder pecan
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check the console as well

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could be something else you imported that broke it

heady basin
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i use last ver

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SDK2

elder pecan
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the one on the website ?

heady basin
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from channel open beta

elder pecan
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that's for 2018

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you're on 2017

heady basin
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SDK2 for 2017 worked

elder pecan
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From the screenshot you posted above i'm going to guess it didn't ?

haughty coyote
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@haughty coyote I cant bc it says that the avatar is hidden and showing

heady basin
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@elder pecan ok thx 👍

gloomy moat
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Does anyone have any tips on how I can get VRChat to run even a tiny bit better on quest??

elder pecan
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Hide very poor and poor avatars SataniaThumbsUp

gloomy moat
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Okie dokie, thank you!!

mystic apex
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Where do i go to make like a "pls fix this" to the vrc devs?

violet lodge
haughty coyote
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hey um

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i am new 😄

blazing sparrow
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ok

haughty coyote
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when will quest get an update?

blazing sparrow
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idk

dense saffron
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heya everyone and @haughty coyote same here :D and hows everyone doin

obsidian zealot
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I'd love to run vrchat quest on quest's natural resolution. even if that means only seeing medium rated avatars

haughty coyote
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how does vrchat run on the quest?
asking for a friend

haughty coyote
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i need help with login in i made an account on vrchat.com but idk how to connect it to my steam account

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ohh i thought it said questions

glossy wagon
haughty coyote
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thx

glossy wagon
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Np

haughty coyote
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anyone have an idea when the rift s will be in stock?

reef cradle
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Omg ive been tracking it down too. I want it so bad and it was available for purchase like a week ago then it just sold out everywhere when i went to buy it an hour later

reef cradle
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?

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Who the fuck are you

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Ez block

haughty coyote
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This guys should probably be banned

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Thanks whoever did that

dusk bison
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What will the new release do for quest? Every time I try switching over to the announcements channel to read more about it, it gets stuck in loading

tall atlas
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It doesn't do anything for quest

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I wish it did. Vrchat is still in early access for quest

violet vigil
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Oh wait I should've read up

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Nvm

waxen summit
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@haughty coyote If ur used to PC, horrible. If it's ur first time, it's okay. That's how I feel about it.

haughty coyote
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thanks

sleek pine
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Well first world I decided to try after receiving this beautiful update was Murder 2 and after a couple second crashes back to vrchat home. Cant tell if it's an issue with the world, the servers, vrchat, or the quest version of vrchat.

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Exciting

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Well I guess it's what I get for wanting to dive full in the day after the unity 2018 update on the platform which runs vrchat buggy, slow, and incomplete

sick knot
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Is anyone else experiencing a problem where you try to join a friend but when you join they are not there and when you check social it says they are in the world?

tribal igloo
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update your vrc then restart

sick knot
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Thanks

wet lava
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or they need to update their VRC

wet lava
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ngl it's super laggy on Quest when basically anything is trying to load. In the menu when it's trying to load worlds, or when someone changes their avatar

urban swift
elder pecan
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@wet lava We'll be improving quest a lot over time

gusty hemlock
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There’s a lot of trouble getting the game to load on Quest. A lot of worlds I had no problem with before won’t load in. I crash more frequently than before. Frame rate drops severely when I navigate the menu like Knot said.

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I’m looking forward to seeing what you guys bring in the future. At the moment it’s nearly unplayable, but I understand these updates take time to figure out.

dusk bison
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I really hope the black screen glitch is fixed soon

urban swift
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whent ever i try to load something Lag..tanabae fps drop.. when i open up menu and try to load picture thumbnail on map or peson fps alway drop down..😢 unplay able ... whent i joining my friend and other friend just joinin keep load avatar thumbnail..vrcCrying i just keep lag and fps drop.. vrcTupper hope they fix it soon..

short glacier
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every time i go into a world at random times it just kicks me into vrc home

errant sedge
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Fucking fix this shit it is ass

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Stop making it better for people that aren’t quest and start helping us out

blazing sparrow
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They are.

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You can no longer upload vrcPerfVeryPoor avatars to quest for performance reasons.

undone valley
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i am getting a issue where when i go onto quest my vrchat just flashes between black screen and actual vrchat so i cant do anything

warm crag
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They made this so much worse t

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They killed the quest version

gloomy moat
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Literally can’t play for like than 5 minutes without a crash 😂

pseudo token
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If very poor avatars wont show up anymore, could that be causing the freezing on starting vrc? Maybe try resetting avatar from vrchat website?

pseudo jackal
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Unity 2018 crashes everytime i load a unity scene for quest. yessss, thanks guys

cerulean crystal
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Anyone else expericing severe lag ever since they updated

undone valley
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i just cant play

wooden scaffold
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Yea me nether

tawdry wyvern
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no problem on my side everything is vrcPerfExcellent vrcPerfMedium

undone valley
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i get in. screen flashes black and back to vr chat and constantly does it

wooden scaffold
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It’s unplayable I tried to get a hold mod but they didn’t answer

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U legit can’t play it’s so laggy

undone valley
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its not lag for me. it may have to do with my oculus due to the fact it shows the loading thing when the screen is black

wooden scaffold
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@cerulean crystal I think it’s happening to mostly all of us

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For me it’s just unplayable like frame by frame each four seconds

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Like 0.1 frame per second

cerulean crystal
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Same here

gloomy moat
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Mine just crashes randomly, most of the time without reason

left harbor
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Mine crashes every time I try to go to another world. Some times it happens randomly... with do lag warning or anything. Along with lag every time I open the menu

long bluff
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They fucked the quest

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I’m not playing until it is fixed

small finch
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A lot of people aren’t playing till it’s fixed. Like I refuse now. It makes me sick with how laggy it is

dusk remnant
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Vr chat on quest sucks now.

dusk bison
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Fax, new update made it even more laggy than it already was. Especially the menu.

dusk bison
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All avatars that have seats on them, the seats don’t work anymore. I reuploaded and they still don’t work.

haughty coyote
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Known bug, and listed in the blogpost

dusk bison
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Good

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I had an avatar with wings set to mobile particles additive to make it look holographic and it got set to normal. Reupload didn’t fix

signal pond
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What is happening with the quest right now why is everything I do end up crashing my device.

gusty hemlock
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@signal pond Devs released a big update today and it’s tanking the Quest ppl way more than usual

signal pond
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Perfect. Some of my friends can't even play the game-

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Anything about it being fixed?

gusty hemlock
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Yep! It’s basically unplayable with the exception of a few worlds. Even then we still crash every few minutes or if someone changes an avatar we also crash.
I couldn’t tell you if anything is being done right this moment, but the update did just release less than a day ago, so they’ll need more time and feedback.

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The thing is, I don’t have any specific feedback to give other than: I can’t do anything lol! I keep crashing!

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Questies have been nerfed even though we had nothing to nerf to begin with. We’ve lost VRC privileges

signal pond
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Yeah

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Im still somewhat able to play acception it being 2 people in the world more than that It gets really laggy

gusty hemlock
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Opening your menu also drops the frame rate like crazy

signal pond
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That too

gusty hemlock
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Minding my business: 50-60fps
Opening my menu: 10-20fps

signal pond
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I opened my menu just now and looked at my ping spike to 106

dusk bison
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Of course the only game I play has to get fckd during quarantine

dusk bison
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I think the reason it’s so laggy might be because of FPS. It seems they went for an FPS improvement on the quest, in a private world with only me in getting a steady 73 frames now.

I think we’d all prefer a constant 30fps than 73 alone and 11 with more than two people. The highs are higher and lows are lower, I don’t like it lol.

gusty hemlock
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Yeah I personally never cared all that much about not getting 60fps lol

elder pecan
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That's not how it should behave, it;s hard to know without knowing which world/avatars were used, quest performance is definitely being worked on as a priority, but please make sure to hide very poor avatars !

tawdry wyvern
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try my quest church if you still have problem. I ask people inside and they where ok.

gusty hemlock
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I default to my usual poor perf avatar, but I tried it with a safe VRC-provided avatar as well and still had trouble.

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I can’t remember the avatar’s name, but it was the black one with white sphere eyes, cat ears, and headphones. It looked to be a safe avatar, but I still ended up with major lagging and crashing problems.

signal pond
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Ping again spiked almost to 200 thats not good

pseudo token
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I managed to get into my home world just fine. So many worlds just throw you back to home on entering.

tawdry wyvern
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Can you try . Quest Church

pseudo token
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Might as well while I am still testing

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No problems with it, definitely wasn't expecting a "surprise" somewhere, got me a little lol

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World that is not working when set as home doesn't cause any problems at least, you'll just go back to default home automatically

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Can't test it now but maybe if you have handtracking enabled, it will cause issues with vrc loading/crashing? I know, it is not used in vrc quest in any way but still, you never know what could be causing problems in background.

tawdry wyvern
pseudo token
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And not like quest has not gotten more freezing issues as of recent software updates, the oculus menu buttons often freeze you for a fraction of second when pressing them.

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Haven't tried the v15 firmware yet, still on v14. V15 has on demand passthrough and new menus in experimental features so you know from that if you have the v15 or still just the earlier. (Oh yeah, or just check the version from settings)

obsidian zealot
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Still no way to force an update?

warm crag
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It was fine before 😔

tacit karma
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The Oculus Quest works with VRChat 2020.1.1, correct?

broken oasis
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sorry for the language but i keep f***ing freezing and getting kicked to the quest hub

warm crag
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Thats the cost if the new uodaye

delicate crown
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@obsidian zealot Are you wondering how to force update a quest to v15?

warm crag
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@broken oasis the new update has ruined the quest version pretty much you crash all the tjme, frame rate drops in servers with two + ppl and when you open a menu, and entering a portal crashes

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It sucks

obsidian zealot
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Yes @delicate crown

tacit karma
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@warm crag Are you refering to VRChat 2020.1.1 or Oculus Quest v15?

warm crag
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VRChat 2020.1.1

tacit karma
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oh okay. I'll wait then

delicate crown
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@obsidian zealot There is also a bug fix that you need to download. I linked it in the comments and you can download it the exact same way

wooden scaffold
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Have they fixed it yet?

gusty hemlock
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Just checked, still performing the same. I’d say they need more time to work on it.

blazing sparrow
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I tried it on my quest and it's running completely fine.

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I think I might be the luckiest human alive.

gusty hemlock
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Does your Quest have the new update to v15?

blazing sparrow
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Yes.

gusty hemlock
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That might be a key part of it. Not everyone gets the update right away. I'm sadly still on v14 and it doesn't show an available update for me yet. Hopefully that'll fix most of the problems people are having.

dusk bison
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I have v15, and I have the same exact issues on vrc.

blazing sparrow
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I might be unable to load into certain worlds (only checked once on one world, so maybe not)

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I was able to load into sky island and it ran fine.

obsidian zealot
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So I’ve used PC for a long while and have a lot of people set to always show. But now that I also use quest sometimes I absolutely do not want those people set to always show when I’m on Quest. Is there an easy way to get a list of people I set to always show?

cosmic lintel
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on the vrchat website for pc, there's a tab(?) on the left called blocks and mutes. this also holds ur show avatar and hide avatars and such. however it only loads so many of them at a time. U could hypothetically clear it, but it'll also clear your blocks and mutes.

gusty hemlock
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I believe in your safety settings you can do that with certain groups of people like users/knownusers/friends/etc. I personally have it so my friends have no safety settings and that gets me by just fine. I couldn't tell you if you can do anything for it beyond the preset user types.

elder pecan
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If you see very poor avatars, very unlikely it gets you by "just fine"

gusty hemlock
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Not since yesterday for certain, but before the update I had little problem showing a few friends' avatars that would typically be perf blocked.

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Now if I were to show a bunch of them in a highly populated room, then I would definitely not last long lol.

candid oriole
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How would one go about getting his or her world to be quest compatible along with the avatars inside said world?

elder pecan
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vapid river
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Could someone give me the TLDR on the new VRChat update for Quest?
Half of the rooms I could normally visit I can't even load.

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(sorry late to the game)

gusty hemlock
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The Quest version cant take a lot of stress rn after the update. Unless you’re going to be chilling with maybe one other person in a super optimized world and avatars, you won’t be able to do much at the moment. It’s safe to say it’s unplayable for the time being. Just gotta be patient for fixes.

dusk bison
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Hopefully they’re quick with it.

haughty coyote
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ive noticed the following things that are happening in the new update:
-crusty loading avatar.
-early clipping
-menu and menu interaction lag

has similar things happened with other updates?

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as of now, yeah.

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i have problems as stated above, and im pretty sure ~72% of quest users are experiencing the same.

haughty coyote
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yup.

sick knot
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So how's vrchat any improvements?

obsidian zealot
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No change since the update. Can’t to any world besides vrchome. Even the hub boots you back to the home

obsidian zealot
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Thankfully quest link performance got a huge boost with v15, but I feel bad for those with no PC

obsidian zealot
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It’s a great headset, especially now that it can do everything rift S can do

haughty coyote
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even oculus hands?

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lol

obsidian zealot
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controllers are the exact same ones that come with rift S. They are interchangeable.

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Dunno if that’s what you meant

dusty delta
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Okay ohm i have a question im looking for the loli police avatar and cant seem to find it can someone tell me please?

haughty coyote
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you'll need to find it yourself, bud. 😔

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just like i did with my doomguy, you can with your.... loli CP (civil protection)

dusty delta
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Wow dang someone had it but wouldnt let me clone 😕

hexed sage
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it be like that sometimes 💔

obsidian zealot
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Inspect creator, look up their worlds p, find the same pedestal they did. If it was shared that way anyway

haughty coyote
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Imma try the old vrchat apk

delicate crown
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Does anyone know if the new build made VRC Quest any better?

small finch
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Uhh. I’m having more problems

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Like they made things worse

merry zealot
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this update sucks

small finch
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Yeah.

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I crash and black screen even more than I use to now.

merry zealot
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same

small finch
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It’s not worth the time to get on anymore

merry zealot
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ya

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im just going to wait till they fix all of this

small finch
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Beat Saber time

delicate crown
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Dang it

haughty coyote
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i cant join my friend

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):

small finch
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@haughty coyote they have to update for you to join them

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It’s kinda annoying but that’s how it is :/

dusk bison
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Saw someone else say in the quest avatars channel that with the new sdk you can’t upload a ‘very poor’ avatar at all anymore. Are they trying to get rid of the entire quest player base by making it terrible to play on it?

blazing sparrow
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I said it, it's not yet.

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It's for the next SDK.

light solar
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Wish I knew how to make a model vrpill

dusk bison
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it better not be in the next sdk lmao

blazing sparrow
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it will be

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in fact, it already is

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Not SDK2, SDK3.

dusk bison
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Smh, why they gotta be like this. It feels like they really don’t care about the quest player base at all, hell it even feels like they dislike us.

blazing sparrow
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It's because lag.

dusk bison
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the new update is the only reason I’ve been getting lag, the previous version ran just fine for me. It seems it’s only downhill from here.

blazing sparrow
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If you have 12 avatars in a world, all of which are 'very poor', you'll get about 20fps if you enable them all.

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They're probably trying to stop that.

dusk bison
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It didn’t use to be like that in the previous version.

blazing sparrow
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It was like that for me.

dusk bison
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Wack

blazing sparrow
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And should have been for everyone because 50k tris, 23 materials and 7 skinned meshes times 12 is bound to cause lag.

dusk bison
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I’m pretty sure over half of the good quest avatars are very poor

blazing sparrow
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Yeah.

dusk bison
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I just rly wish they would go back to the previous update

blazing sparrow
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I mostly tend to use my roblox avatar as my VRChat one so... that's one in the other half

haughty coyote
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i just made a very poor avatar a bit ago

blazing sparrow
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They will block them eventually.

dusk bison
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I really want to get in contact with someone on the vrchat dev team to ask them why. They’re clearly trying to remove lag, but it’s only getting more laggy. On top of that they’re also removing most of the quest playerbase.

haughty coyote
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lufou dude what's up

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im cheddar and idk how to change my name so aha

dusk bison
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Oh lmao what’s good

haughty coyote
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Bruh I been crashing every two minutes

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also the clipping is happening to pretty much everyone.

haughty coyote
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rip markers from VRC Quest

dusk bison
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Fax. Rip vrc quest in general. They really messed it up :/

light solar
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Really needs to be fixed like tomorrow

urban swift
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vrcPerfVeryPoor Rip..

dusk bison
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most of my friends won’t play the game til it’s fixed

sick knot
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So they are planning to get rid of very poor rated avatars?

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That's like all of mine

dusk bison
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Same.

sick knot
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I might just quit vrc if they do that

dusk bison
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They’re putting more limits on the quest than necessary. Some of my friends use 200K+ poly avatars as their mains and they never lag so idk why they’re being like this

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I would quit vrchat if they do that but I really don’t have anything else to do

sick knot
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I'll go back to rec room. At least there I won't crash as much and my outfits won't suddenly be gone

dusk bison
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rec room has too many kids for my liking

sick knot
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And yes I mean it when I say I don't mind dealing with toxic ten year olds if I can still do vr

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Also where did they talk about removing very poor avatars?

dusk bison
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honestly I might as well if things keep going downhill like this.
dark times for quest vrc

sick knot
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I want to take a look myself

dusk bison
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You’ll have to ask doge gamer about that. I’m just trusting his word for it

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With how bad this update is I wouldn’t put it past them to do something like that

halcyon swift
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I would rather have a laggy unstable mess than get to see even less avatars

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Not being able to see a ton of avatars is my main dissapointment in the quest version

night pond
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let the quest users decide the minimum quality they can see like on pc and we wouldnt have this problem

halcyon swift
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That is already a thing

night pond
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oh : (

halcyon swift
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And enabled by default

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But most everyone turns it off

night pond
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oof

halcyon swift
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Which is just proof that quest users want more avatars rather than performance

sick knot
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Like can't they just make the polygon limit higher for quest users?

night pond
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i know my avatar isnt on quest. i could probably upload it but im too lazy to and its medium performance

sick knot
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Even if you increased it by a thousand or 2 would be hugely appreciated by the quest community

halcyon swift
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I think they actively want to go against that

sick knot
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If they do that then rec room will take over as most popular

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Because everyone will migrate there

halcyon swift
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My motivation to play VRChat is gonna go unbelievably low if my main avatars become unusable and I am able to see a bunch less avatars

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What I want right now that is actually feaseable is proper sizes on the default avatars so when someone is using a small PC avatar I can actually know where their head is

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That would at least make the problem a little less annoying since a big issue with not seeing PC avatars is the complete disconnect you feel

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And that is only heightened when you don't even know if you are making eye contact

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Tldr: the biggest goal should be to get as much unity between quest and PC players, and getting rid of high poly avatars is only going to make that worse

elder pecan
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That's not possible, the platforms are completely different and have nothing in common in terms of performance

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quest is a mobile platform

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The oculus guidelines for content recommend a maximum of 50000 polygons in view

dusk bison
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@elder pecan Still though: what’s the deal with wanting to get rid of very poor avatars? I’m not even concerned with how laggy the recent update is, I’m more worried about the future for quest vrc.

And for the oculus guidelines: those are just guidelines, not rules. The only downside of not following those guidelines is lower performance. However, everyone has clearly said they’d prefer avatars over performance.

TLDR: It’s probably best to not change the current avatar system. Just revert it to how it was in the previous version, and everyone will be happy. It worked just fine in the previous version so there’s no reason to change it. I’m okay with the occasional crash if I get to use good avatars.

orchid mountain
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Why is it since this new update trying to load some worlds just crashes my game instantly, it wasn't like this before the update.

haughty coyote
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bringing in the one hand menu is a fucking death sentence. same for friending someone in said menu. did i mention showing other's avatars? because you can spend a single second being frozen and that scares me

orchid mountain
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I can't even click on people trying to hide their 22ft avatar because it's lagging me that badly

haughty coyote
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one thing i don't get is how we're getting early clipping.

tawdry wyvern
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You can still upload very poor avatar. but you have to use SDK2 like the site specify too. Stop trash talk false info

orchid mountain
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Anyone got any fixes for why I crash when trying to load into some worlds?

tawdry wyvern
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ask the owner of it

orchid mountain
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😐

small panther
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Does anyone know how to fix the problem where everything next to your face disappears ? (ITS NOT PERSONAL SPAce)

full yew
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the update did it...

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i dont think there is a way to fix it

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and i agree it is very annoying

small panther
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I know but like, there used to be a way to fix it and my friend said he knows how to but he didn’t get to telling me

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Really annoying.

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He said there’s an apartment world I need to go to but there’s several and idk which one..

tawdry wyvern
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there one option when you upload a world. you can change the clipping distance. maybe the update did something to that value

small panther
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So annoying bruhhh

full yew
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the update screwed so many things

small panther
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Yep

full yew
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updates are supposed to fix and make the game better but this was a massive downgrade

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feel like we back in alpha tesing

tawdry wyvern
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they probably work on it. dont be so mad. its a free game by the way

small panther
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Lolol we are complaining cause it’s such a good game and it’s just unfortunate that it’s been like this. It will be fixed though

small finch
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@small panther I’ll show you when I get on, Or ask Mmeezy, because we have the world set as our home world and it fixes it

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It’s a sleep world now. Not a apartment world btw @small panther

orchid mountain
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This update has actually ruined everything, I kept freezing every 2 seconds, couldn't join worlds and getting kicked back home and half of the worlds just crash the game.

small panther
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^

small finch
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Oof, is their even any point of touching VRC?

quaint trail
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@small finch yeah they fixed most stuff with a second update, rn the only issue I have is that I crash like 10× more frequently

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It's kinda sad that that's considered good, but fr not that much lag everything works mostly fine with only some lag spikes when menu is open and I just crash a ton. But quest users are used to shit running like a potato so we're used to this.

sick knot
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Yep

true comet
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i want to play murder 2 but i never load into the acc game just stay in the lobby

haughty coyote
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Hey guys so for some reason my menus and such wont show up has anyone been able to fix this?

sonic knoll
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I haven't played VRC since before the recent update(s). Given the performance issues I've heard that Quest users are dealing with, should I even bother trying to log in atm?

dusk bison
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@tawdry wyvern Damn well I’m glad we’ll still be able to upload very poor avatars. It’s a slight inconvenience that we’ll need an older sdk to do so but thank god they’ll still exist.

nocturne spear
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Anyone want to play vr chat with me?

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If so please dm me

haughty coyote
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Honestly if they limited avatars even more for us id quit

barren pasture
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is this my beloved quest family chat

halcyon swift
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indeed

barren pasture
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yes

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my true kind

halcyon swift
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@elder pecansorry for the late response but I don't mean making them one to one but getting as close to that as we can get within the quest's hardware in my opinion should be number one goal, even if this does come at the cost of some performance. The only reason polygons are an issue is because people want to see the avatars bad enough they turn down the safety settings and sacrifice performance.

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is it possible we already reached that limit of PC quest avatar unity? very possibly

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but I and many other quest vrchat players just don't want to take a step back from where we are

barren pasture
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what's happenin?

halcyon swift
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you can read the conversation above from yesterday

barren pasture
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mk

barren pasture
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So about this new update for quest, I actually didn't get it.

halcyon swift
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you probably did

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Quest updates games in the background if left in sleep mode

haughty coyote
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Can’t even log in connection issues need to stop

elder pecan
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There is absolutely no reason to require such high polygon on a model aside from the lack of skill required to optimize it

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Merge materials, merge meshes, it's already a big step in the correct way, but even that is not standard amongst quest users, so polygon is a scape goat for everything else

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Quest is not an ultra powerful platform, hence the type of content available on it.

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We have a lot of work to do ourselves to increase performance and solve crashes for users though.

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But running around with 200k poly avatars on quest is ludicrous.

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The platform is not meant for that, nor was it engineered to support it.

little kestrel
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Any rdr2 avatars for quest if so tell me a world there on

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Cmon someone help Dutch I need assistance

haughty coyote
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Oh yeah for those who still have the issue of easily clipping through things
Just going to "the room of the sleep" fixes it and I recommend setting it as your home so it fixes on it's own every time you get on instead of having to go out of your way to visit it every time you get on

halcyon swift
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why does that fix it

haughty coyote
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It probably doesn’t lmao

small finch
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I got on and had no problems with VRChat, so idk 🤷‍♀️

dusk bison
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200k is ridiculous but it works just fine.

somber fulcrum
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I started making my avatars not over exceed 100k polys but after the boo you can't upload this avatar to this platform because the file is too large smh im not able to do anything ;-;

sonic knoll
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Why would you let it get as high as 100k?

elder pecan
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Because they can't optimize KonCry

somber fulcrum
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it would ruin the avatar ._.

oak narwhal
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The file to large happens even with a empty object so it has to be a issue with the sdk

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It’s not a optomization issue at this point

somber fulcrum
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Yea

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I literally put a simple avatar with 7k polys and it registered it was 40+ mb

oak narwhal
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I sent a support ticket to vrchat about it

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They said it might be a texture issue but I told them again that even something with no polys and textures get labeled as to big

somber fulcrum
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Hopefully they find the problem

dusk bison
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as long as very poor avatars are kept I don’t think anyone will have any issues

somber fulcrum
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Yea..

violet lodge
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@somber fulcrum do you have this unchecked in the models import settings?

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If you don't try checking it and see if the file size goes smaller

haughty coyote
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why are world sizes smaller.

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also the playerbase seems to be dying

warm basin
#

Hey, could I get some insight on the pros and cons of the Oculus Quest (with Link) and VRChat? Would you guys recommend it? Or what are some of its downfalls? I've never had a VR experience before, I have good PC and don't care about portability but VR is extremely expensive where I live (e.g. Index is 2.1k) and the Quest just seems like one of the better possible options. I'd appreciate any info on it!

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does the link make it into a full ready PCVR device like the rest or is it still limited in any way? How good is the tracking? Etc, I appreciate any and all insight I can get, thanks!

somber fulcrum
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@violet lodge thanks I will check if that fixes something later.

pseudo token
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@warm basin If possible, just get rift s instead of quest if you have vr capable pc. There's way less to worry about with it.
There is a slight negative cost in terms of visual quality, performance and latency when using quest and link compared to native pcvr headsets like rift s.
Quest's screen is OLED vs rift s's LCD. Black actually looks like black on quest but on rift s it's more like grey.
There's other things like link not getting enough power from your usb to consider if you're unlucky with your hardware.
You'll need the link cable or some other third party cable to use the link on quest which is additional cost.

warm basin
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@pseudo token Hey, thanks for the input! I've been told that the Rift S isn't all that great though, and that other options like even the CV1 are better despite lack of replacements. I personally preffer the outside tracking rather than inside-out if I can have a choice but yeah I don't know

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from what I've been told the Vive or CV1 are better choices but I'm not too sure, could you give me more info on the Rift S?

pseudo token
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Imo the cv1 is still fine even though it is old af. Wouldn't really recommend vive because it is expensive and lower image quality.
If you are getting rift s, check your ipd either by yourself with a ruler (google is your friend for more info on that) or by a professional. You can't adjust the ipd physically. The software adjustment of image is not exactly same as physical.
So if your ipd is way off (+/-5mm) the common value of 64mm, you may experience eyestrain. In that case quest (or cv1) may be a better choice.

obsidian zealot
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Honestly I have a hard time going above 32K for the base model.. I go over it with props which I wish didn’t count.

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For quest I target 7500 or below since they can’t be pref blocked at all

tawdry wyvern
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I aim 5 k. but when I fell a little crazy I go near 6 k

tawdry wyvern
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the hair thing take 1.6 tris alone. 😮

pseudo token
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If only it weren't so time consuming to get some avatars working on both platforms. I always try not to go below poor ranking with quest avatars. 90% of time it's the polygons that I have to fight with on some avatars to get it barely under 10k but having guns and particles quickly drops you to poor anyways. Like I found storm trooper that is below 5k but the materials and particles make the avatar poor lol

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The hair struggle is real indeed, one of my avatars is barely below 10k because of the long hair

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And even the filesize can be a trouble if you have custom animations. Cutting down the framerate of the dance animation to 20fps from 30fps doesn't look bad imo but makes a nice difference in download size.

obsidian zealot
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I have seen some people spend hours and hours painstakingly delete and merge verts around and I just think you clearly have the skill to make models from scratch you should just do it it’s way easier

haughty coyote
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What's QUEST???

pseudo token
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Maybe, it is just gonna take a lot more time and honestly I am kinda lazy. I've had some trouble in past with uncanny looking facial expressions too so someday I might make something decent humanoid-looking from scratch. Right now I prefer focusing on pc because there is so much cool ideas I have and I don't want to limit myself too much with quest unless my ideas can be crossplatform without much effort. Like I have figured out how to make scp-650 where you can freeze still or move like you are playing in stop motion and it could work on quest. Need to test if it is demanding to use dozens of constraint components on quest.

silent stream
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hey guys!! I'm trying to port an avatar of mine to quest for someone and once I ported the package to android it froze. now everytime I open the project it freezes, any idea what causes this?

pseudo token
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Weird, haven't had issues yet and I keep a separate project for quest. You could try seeing if it stops freezing if changing target platform from the project from unity hub. If you dont have it then you might have to copy your project's assets folder into a new empty project and probably delete the vrcsdk form the assets folder.

silent stream
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I have tried in two new projects and the same thing happens ): but i'll try changing the platform

little kestrel
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Any rdr2 avatars or avatar worlds with them

oak narwhal
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Is it normal that I saw a ferret with dynamic bone when I'm a quest player not connected to a PC

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Because I'm really confused lmao

true comet
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Yeet am 13 if you want to play with me my user name is john_murray21 I like to play western pig and hangout games

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Uk

delicate crown
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I got on VRChat today and I could tell that the update screwed something up. The mini menu lags and when I try to show avatar that are not being shown it crashes or almost crashes my game. I was ok with the occasional crash but this is ridiculous. I also noticed that the framerates felt lower. My question is why is this happening? What was put into this update that is causing all the quest players to stop playing until this is fixed?

terse briar
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Your right

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They need to fix the quest it’s unplayable

blazing sparrow
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I honestly don't know what the issues are, I played it on my quest and it was completely fine.
Only problems I've had is a few worlds just immediately kick you out.

terse briar
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Half of the time you get a black screen

blazing sparrow
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That happened to me before the update.

oak narwhal
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Alot of people are having alot more crashes than before the update, not being able to log in, and it's really laggy, but that's as much as I know right now

terse briar
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The update made the quest bad

oak narwhal
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Basically the issues that would happen occasionally (which was easy to handle) seemed to get increasingly worse for some people

blazing sparrow
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I'm able to log in, I haven't crashed, I'm experiencing the same frame-rate. I don't know what's wrong.

oak narwhal
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It doesn't mean every single person is having the issue

terse briar
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U have quest link

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Doge gamer

blazing sparrow
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No.

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I'm playing standalone.

terse briar
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Have much have you crashed

blazing sparrow
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None.

oak narwhal
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Bugs don't allways effect everyone

blazing sparrow
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I mentioned in a previous message that I'm probably the luckiest human alive.

oak narwhal
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But with how many people its effecting now, unless they fix the update, I have a feeling the amount of quest players playing vrchat will probably go down

terse briar
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I crash like every 1h

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But still

blazing sparrow
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Oh... I haven't played for a whole hour yet.

oak narwhal
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Are you new to vrchat?

terse briar
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Me?

oak narwhal
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@blazing sparrow

blazing sparrow
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The most I played since the update in a single session was about 15-20 mins

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And no.

oak narwhal
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Ah okay

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But yeah that's probablywhy u haven't crashed yet, if you played for hours at a time you would probably see how much quest crashes now

terse briar
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It crashes a lot

haughty coyote
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my friends on quest crash a lot

terse briar
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It’s because of the update

oak narwhal
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Crashing was normal before hand but the update definitely increased it

terse briar
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Increased it bye a lot

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I play before the update and I barely crashed

elder pecan
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We're aware of it and working on it ! It also affects PC too

terse briar
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Ty

blazing sparrow
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If PC's also affected, it's probably a memory leak of some sort.

elder pecan
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We know what it is, finding the cause and the fix is what takes the most effort and time

haughty coyote
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What about the log in connecting problems? @elder pecan

elder pecan
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Which country are you based in ?

haughty coyote
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Usa

elder pecan
haughty coyote
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Ive deleted and reinstalled about 3 times

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Ok thanks

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Is the quest version ever going to be updated to see pc avatars?

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I feel like I just can’t interact with pc players at all because they are all robots

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Kinda ruins the game for me

blazing sparrow
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No. Basically, PC and Quest speak different languages. So an avatar has to speak both.

haughty coyote
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Poo

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Are there any quest only avatars?

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Just curious

blazing sparrow
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Probably.

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You could make one.

oak narwhal
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If PC people would take some time to make their avatar quest compatibile that would be cool, but I know it's alot of work and some creators aren't making avatars anymore or don't play vrchat anymore. Also yes there are quest only avatars and it's possible to make them, I have a toothless one that was uploaded quest only by someone

blazing sparrow
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Problems with that:

  1. Everything would be very poor.
  2. Certain things aren't allowed on quest (dynamic bones, custom shaders, audio, etc.)
oak narwhal
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If you make a avatar onto quest you can just make a project with the avatar and make it so you can have it on quest

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My avatars have dynamic bones n shiz on PC but on quest I just take them off

blazing sparrow
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Shaders sometimes make an avatar work properly.

oak narwhal
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?

blazing sparrow
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Double-sided shaders, specular, and many other things custom shaders allow sometimes just let an avatar work.

oak narwhal
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Well yeah then I understand not uploading to quest

spring nimbus
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keep us updated on the quest work! I’m bummed that I can’t play

halcyon swift
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seeing robots wouldnt be so bad if the height was accurate

blazing sparrow
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Oh hecc. That is the biggest problems with it.

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Surely they could attach a text file to the avatar with the boundaries of it.

dusk bison
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it’s kinda ridiculous how many avatars could be made quest compatible, it’s just a lot of model makers don’t want to go through the effort. The ones that are really shader or audio based I can understand but still.

blazing sparrow
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What about avatars with 203k tris, 72 materials, 823 dynamic bones, 924 colliders and 674 meshes.

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Actually, if someone made that, they shouldn't be on the internet.

dusk bison
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Yeah I was about to say that

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some are understandable but a lot of them could be.

blazing sparrow
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There was a club penguin avatar with a particle and sound and a public download (for once). I downloaded it, and got rid of the sound and made it for quest.

dusk bison
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Nice

hazy torrent
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Hey has anyone ever experienced an issue where Vrchat will take you into empty worlds when you selected populated worlds?

clear trench
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fix the crashing hoollyy shiiitt

past isle
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i got like 5 crashes in a row yesterday vrcStoic

dusk bison
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@hazy torrent yeah all the time.

tawdry wyvern
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you dont need mirror

tawdry wyvern
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audio is annoying

tawdry wyvern
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yes

obsidian zealot
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Yes, I do. I mean, it’s quest. Public worlds are a little pointless, most of them aren’t visitable anyway, and the ones that are you can’t see the avatars, and the ones you can are usually annoying. Nothing wrong with playing VrC in private with friends you know outside of VRc. If you have an issue with that maybe realize how silly you are to have a problem with how other people socialize

haughty coyote
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Yeah discrimination is real against quest in public worlds lol

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I am kinda confused on why there is an “audio” tab in the safety settings if there is no audio anyways on quest

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Yeah

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I’m ok seeing the tits just without the jiggle

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I don’t see enough tits in vrc quest

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the quest is the only vr headset ive ever had

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I had the psvr before the quest

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how was it compared to the quest

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I prefer the quest x100

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makes since

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For one, you are able to turn around

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yea

obsidian zealot
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I love my quest but when it comes to VRChat I stream it to quest via virtual desktop, the actual native quest app is a waste of time to me. All my friends are in pc-only worlds

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And the very rare times they aren’t, they’re in Pc-only avatars

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And I could look past all of that, if the native quest VRChat app ran at the native quest resolution, but it doesn’t, it’s all blocky, and that’s more annoying than the low poly avatars

haughty coyote
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I didn’t know there was lower resolution

obsidian zealot
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Yeah compare native quest VRChat to other quest games or even the quest home menu you can see how much sharper quest is supposed to be.

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There is fixed foviated but even the center of vision is not native

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I’d prefer that get removed even if it means tighter avatar requirements

haughty coyote
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No thanks

obsidian zealot
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Seeing everything blurry is far worse

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I had to stop using it

haughty coyote
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There are too many avatars I can’t see anyways, if they remove foviated rendering it would take out a major part of the game

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I don’t really care about the blurries

obsidian zealot
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You can’t see them not because they are too complicated but because they didn’t make a quest version in the first place

haughty coyote
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I just pretend I’m half blind

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Exactly

obsidian zealot
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Seeing sharply won’t change that. They already don’t have a quest version

haughty coyote
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I would rather not accidentally open an avatar that is way too resource heavy and crash because I don’t have lower rendering

obsidian zealot
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Making the quest version not make your eyes bleed would make more use it. More people using it = more content made for it

haughty coyote
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:T

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I feel like most people don’t use vrc on quest because of the lack of quest avatars compared to pc avatars

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I have never had a problem with the resolution, the psvr is far worse than anything on quest

obsidian zealot
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I bought my quest with the intention of making quest content but when I saw how blocky everything is with the resolution I nope’d out and just use PCVr. I don’t even make quest versions of my stuff despite using quest to play.

haughty coyote
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And if the max poly count is lowered even more then it would be even harder to optimize avatars

obsidian zealot
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Good

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Vrc needs more original content not badly decimated models

haughty coyote
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People are lazy and a higher resolution won’t change that

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Yeah I had a really good time with very poor avatars before the update

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Now I set my safety to medium and I still crash quite often

obsidian zealot
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Actually if you are above 7500 tris you are blocked by default unless they show poor avatars, above 10000 and you are blocked unless specifically shown. I find this is a pretty good deterrent because most people will not do either. Use 7500 or less tris and you always get seen. Use more and you rarely will.

haughty coyote
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i uploaded a cross platform avatar with 20 materials

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it works perfectly on quest

obsidian zealot
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Yeah I never unhide anyone

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Oh you will always see yourself, bluedog. Others won’t

haughty coyote
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There is a height limit now?

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idk how to combine materials

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;-;

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I still have a giant robot that is five times the size of every map

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How high is the height limit

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Oh so then what’s the point

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make the bounding box small i think

obsidian zealot
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How to combine materials:
1.) You press the “combine materials” button

haughty coyote
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but where is that

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blender or unity

obsidian zealot
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In the cat’s toolbar in blender. Unity cannot edit models

haughty coyote
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ok

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ill download it

obsidian zealot
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Only combine mateirals that can have the same shader settings in unity, because they will be the same material/shader

haughty coyote
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yea im wanting them all to be toon lit

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the avatar is the one in my picture

obsidian zealot
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Before you combine mateirals it’s also a good idea to delete the materials your model isn’t using. A lot of MMD models have material slots that aren’t even used anywhere on the model; you will get a smaller combined texture if you delete those slots before combining

haughty coyote
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i like my avatar to be toon lit

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@haughty coyote

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btw my avatar is still going to probably be very poor or poor if i combine materials

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because im thinking of adding a texture mouth

obsidian zealot
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You can have a textured mouth without separate materials.

haughty coyote
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one that moves though

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like it switches out the head texture

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or something like that

obsidian zealot
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Yes. Switching textures isn’t needed. Just have a alternate mouth with a different part of the texture behind the mouth, and clip it in front with visiemes. All the same material.

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You can have a bunch for each Visieme. Just move each one forward for each mouth. That’s how most textured mouths work, actually. You can’t texture change on voice.

haughty coyote
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Yes because of the new update I get them every time I play

obsidian zealot
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I did notice that, I assumed it was so first impressions would not be of pref blocked avatars

steel fiber
#

If anybody is looking for a gravity falls quest avatar i have a mable avatar

haughty coyote
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Damn so many people but this thing is dead

sonic knoll
#

That probably means more people are actually away from their computer, playing the game?

sleek pine
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Shouldn't it be the user's choice to tank their performance and show a poorly optimized avatar? I don't know much about the situation so I don't want to charge blindly into a heated debate, so if there actually is good technical or other reasoning, please inform me.

blazing sparrow
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Yes.

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But they don't care.

sleek pine
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Is it just stupid "oculus guidelines"?

blazing sparrow
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I don't think so.

elder pecan
sleek pine
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Thanks I suppose I'll do a read through

haughty coyote
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this entire update is such a disaster..

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last time i went onto vrc, the overall players in the Worlds section diminished.

atomic shard
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Your guess is as good as mine at this point.

analog hedge
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So I’m not the only one that keeps crashing every 10 minutes?

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Huh

analog hedge
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Yeah :/

obsidian zealot
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I haven’t crashed a single time are you sure you guys haven’t shown poor avatars?

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If they are blocked don’t show them

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When did I buy the quest?

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I’m not sure why that matters, they are all the same, but I bought it two weeks ago

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They are all exactly the same

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Were you showing peoples ahidden avatars

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In vrchat on quest some avatars will be hidden by default, are you choosing to show Them?

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If so that is why you are crashing

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What is your own avatar rated?

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Check. If it’s rated poor or very poor, you are probably crashing yourself.

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They consider the quest a videogame console. Like all game console makers they will eventually release a new one, I doubt it will be called Quest 2 or whatever. It will have a different name. But I don’t think they would do that any time soon, the quest has been out less than a year. Consoles tend to have a life cycle of at least 4 years or more.

past isle
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my avatar has vrcPerfMedium and still i get black screens or crashers even if im alone in a world and it mostly happens when i open the menu this game is clearly broken.

obsidian zealot
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My own avatar is medium, can’t say that happened for me, I can open the menu just fine

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However I do use default settings (poor avatars hidden). Safety is disabled.

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It’s also the 128 gb version, not sure if that makes a difference, that’s storage not memory

past isle
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i play with safety settings because there are some people that think is funny to port crash avatars to the quest version

obsidian zealot
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I personally find that safety doesn’t stop that at all. User rank has nothing to do with if someone will crash you. But avatar rank does, I don’t think anyone can crash you with a medium avatar.

past isle
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i mean the trust ranks are useless people with trusted user rank are not 100% trusted

obsidian zealot
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And then there’s me, trusted since the feature came out, but I always show as green instead so I will be set to whatever you allow for green.

past isle
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i only hope the devs are waking up from there sleep and fix this game nothing has really changed i want to see users with client getting banned and have a better safety system so you can play public and not private.

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it's sad how this game just changed into a mirror/erp simulator instead or a social vr game i mean wtf has happend to the people instead of interacting with someone or talking with someone Nah just stare at a fucking mirror like a idiot and be a e-boy/e-girl fucking disgusting im not saying everyone is like that but the most people sadly are....

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and during this event with the virus is hard to talk to someone that you like because you crash or getting a blackscreen a few days ago i meet a girl at the hub that was cute and i actuelly liked here but i crashed and i forgot to friend her so it was my mistake but still it is just heartbreaking to meet someone and after you crash you could never see her/him again.

haughty coyote
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i feel like the quest 2 would be the quest x

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it just sounds good even though x mean 10

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oh yea

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yea

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or Oculus Quest S

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lol

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i use an iphone but why couldnt they make the iphone 11 pro the iphone 11

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if they were releasing it at the same time

shadow forge
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is anyone else having troubles playing vrchat on wuest?

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what messages

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ok

dusk bison
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In other news quest is still scuffed… wait nvm that’s not news

brittle kernel
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lol got kicked

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for no reason

dusk bison
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@past isle I think you’re just not going to the right places if I’m gonna be honest. I usually go to the pug or vrchat hub, tons of friendly people there.

And I think the reason why everybody chills at the mirror is because it’s either weirdly calming or just a strange feeling looking at yourself in the mirror as an avatar

obsidian zealot
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This isn’t the first game or place I’ve said this but, I’ll say it again: if in the real world, everyone had the ability to shape shift as much as they wanted with no limitations, you would find everyone would be obsessed with mirrors in real life, too.

past isle
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@dusk bison i go sometimes in hub or pug and also meet some nice people but still, i feel like there is something wrong with this game and after the update, i think i never want to play it anymore because the devs added nothing to the quest version and just breaks it more, i feel like they try to ignore it 🙁

dusk bison
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@past isle They undeniably messed up with the update, but I think they’re fixing it. Slowly but surely, it’s worth it to stick around.

haughty coyote
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Are we sure it’s the vrchat update?

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Other games have been having problems too, I suspect it may be the v15 oculus update

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Maybe I’m completely wrong, but it would kinda make sense

obsidian zealot
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V15 made no difference here.

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Also I suspect many are still on 14. I had to force mine to go to 15

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That said anyone here use Side-loading with the new universal menu? AppLauncher isn’t in my unknown sources unless I opt out of the new menu design

haughty coyote
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Yes

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Go to the dropdown @obsidian zealot

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And click unknown sources

obsidian zealot
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Thanks

humble wedge
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Has anyone else been having vrchat crashing issues whenever trying to go to different worlds? On the oculus quest

sleek pine
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Yes many have been having crashing and performance issues lately we just have to wait for the devs to fix everything.

humble wedge
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Ok cool was making sure it wasn’t just me thanks

last mountain
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What I want to know is if the new UI is the problem

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Anyone else update to the new UI and just massively crash in not just VRChat?

haughty coyote
#

mamamamammam has a

lofty marsh
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hoping we get a hotfix or SOMETHING to fix the crashing at the least before the weekend, I want to drink without crashing every 5 minutes

brittle kernel
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@lofty marsh hahaha xD

lofty marsh
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well we can only hope for a patch in the coming days lol

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hope being the keyword

haughty coyote
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Why can’t you have audio on quest avatars

elder pecan
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@lofty marsh We're working hard on it, looks promising !

lofty marsh
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Keen to see the patch out soon hopefully ❤️

elder pecan
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This is the quest channel

crisp raft
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sorry

halcyon swift
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thanks for working so hard to get it fixed :)

dreamy star
#

Does anyone know wherw to find doom avatars for the quest i cant find anything

lusty vector
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couldn't login yesterday, complete freeze after logging in, no crash or anything, just frozen. gonna try again, anybody else having the same issue?

lusty vector
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just checked, issue isn't fixed

ancient coral
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Hey so this just happened recently I was on vr chat and I always go to the black cat server and it's not taking me there it just takes me back home

atomic shard
#

Yeah the Quest version has been kinda screwed up lately.

ancient coral
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Damn are they going to fix it @atomic shard

haughty coyote
#

I need help trying to get the oculus quest, every place is out of stock besides scalp sites

obsidian zealot
haughty coyote
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keeps running out there

obsidian zealot
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Just sign up for NowInStock.com notifications. I got mine odered from the official site within two days of being signed up to be notified

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it goes on sale about 7-8 times a day but only lasts about 3 minutes

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You have to want it more than everyone else, sign up for notifications then spam refresh when you get one

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got mine 2 weeks ago

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it's still very possible.. never give scalpers money, let the whales buy those

haughty coyote
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I hate scalpers

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cuz .com doesnt seem to work

obsidian zealot
#

These icons are killing me.

haughty coyote
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can u play vrchat with quest?

haughty coyote
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you have lost pp privilige

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very good icon

haughty coyote
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frick I almos had it

obsidian zealot
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@haughty coyote ya. With or without a pc. It’s better connected to a Pc though

haughty coyote
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i heard u can only do quest related stuff tho

obsidian zealot
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If it’s on it’s own, yes. If connected to a PC it’s the same as Rift or Vive, just a lot clearer.

haughty coyote
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so what would be getter to get rift or quest

hardy adder
#

Has anyone else been unable to join the black cat?

elder pecan
#

It's a new issue we've been working on fixing

obsidian zealot
#

I’d personally get a quest. It’s the same as Rift S except you can also use it without a PC, if you need to. Rift S is a bit more comfortable though so if you ONLY want to use it with a PC and never want to play Quest’s standalone games or you never want to take it out and show people; get a Rift S or Index

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I just love quest for wireless pcvr. I rarely use the quest client

haughty coyote
#

with rift u can still play like games and stuff tho?

hardy adder
#

@elder pecan ahhh ok good 😅

obsidian zealot
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Quest can play Pc or Quest games. Other headsets can only play Pc

haughty coyote
#

Wonder if this update helps with the crashes

shell osprey
#

uhg

long bluff
#

Yay reduced crashes

spring nimbus
#

yeee haw

haughty coyote
#

cant wait to see if i crash less it has been so bad that i sit in 1 world the whole time with only 1 friend because i cant stay in other worlds on the quest....also i cant access the blackcat on quest anymore anyone else have this problem ?

long bluff
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I never rly went there so idk

spring nimbus
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I did

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I barely got onto room of the rain, I joined for about ten minutes then crashed

long bluff
#

I go to great pug west and never have I ever

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To many pc users in black cat

lusty vector
#

just updated, i still have the freezing issue upon logging in

long bluff
#

I never had that before

lusty vector
#

interesting I just put my headset back on and now its on a new frame

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im gonna check if the Quest itself has any firmware updates

long bluff
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Version 15 is the newest

lusty vector
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no update available

long bluff
#

Are you on version 15

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With pass through and all that

lusty vector
#

wdym pass through

long bluff
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Tap twice on the quest and the cameras with turn on

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Will

lusty vector
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where do I tap

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wait

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wdym tap

long bluff
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Just the side but you have to turn it on in experimental features

lusty vector
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also in the about section it says 15.0.0.#### (idk the rest)

long bluff
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Bruh the slap the side of it twice when you turn it on

lusty vector
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a long string of numbers

long bluff
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Yes the. You are updated

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Then

lusty vector
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and i just enabled passthrough shortcut thanks for telling me about that

#

that's useful

obsidian zealot
#

Lol I had to disable pass though on headset tap it kept happening on its own

long bluff
#

No

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Np

#

Fuck I can’t type

obsidian zealot
#

It’s funny if you use the passthough feature in VRChat your avatar will drop to the ground prone, so I just made mine a AFK sign

lusty vector
#

nobody else has the issue I have?

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also thought I should mention this wasn't a problem before

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I haven't played VRC in a while though

pseudo token
#

Not sure if the jump to 2018 unity made a difference or this latest vrc update but I can notice mirrors causing less stuttering. Before there was always stuttering as soon as you had mirror with world visible no matter what avatar you are using. Now it stutters a little but only when menu is open. And the menus are definitely how they used to be, maybe even less freezing in menus than before.

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oh yeah and no more super low res edges of screen from foveated rendering. I do get freezing for a bit during login but it might be less than before for me, not sure.

lusty vector
#

i think im going to try a reinstall, considering everything like my favorite avatars and worlds is all on my account I shouldn't lose anything right?

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other than caches

pseudo token
#

Yeah you have account, you won't lose anything other than the cache.

lusty vector
#

okay cool

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going to reinstall VRC then

pseudo token
#

you can always just delete the cache from the settings

lusty vector
#

inside of VRC or in Quest settings?

pseudo token
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If you haven't tried that yet.
Yeah, vrc

lusty vector
#

no, my problem is I can't even get into VRC

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i think I broke it

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it's stuck on uninstalling

elder pecan
#

Let us know if you do crash again after updating, it should be greatly reduced, but there could be unrelated/new ones

lusty vector
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@elder pecan well now my Quest is just stuck on uninstalling, I made a Reddit thread so hopefully I can get a bit of help there, and VRChat doesn't appear in SideQuest either so I can't uninstall it from there

elder pecan
lusty vector
#

i'll try if I don't figure anything out, although I think it's something on Oculus's end, not VRC's

elder pecan
#

Since we just released it's possible Oculus hasn't fully made the switch yet, hopefully will be quick

lusty vector
#

yeah, just hope it works whenever I fix this uninstalling bug

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gonna try a shut down instead of a restart, doubt it'll make a difference but worth a shot

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nope, same issue

shrewd oar
#

Is this chat for talking about the quest port?

elder pecan
#

Sure !

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Make sure to get the latest update though !

shrewd oar
#

Was this update today?

elder pecan
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Yes, less than an hour ago

shrewd oar
#

Awesome! Im glad the quest version is getting more and more optimized

lusty vector
#

i just looked at VRC reviews on the Quest and it makes me kind of sad to see so many bad reviews, it's not really VRC's fault but more the Quest itself considering it's running on what is basically a mobile phone processor

shrewd oar
#

...

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To be honest, I wish VRC was better on the quest. IT'

stuck smelt
shrewd oar
#

I've been a desktop player for a long time and I like playing VRC, so when I got the chance to play VRC on the quest I was going to get it. I did- and the VRC experience was sad.

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I crashed all the time, the limitations bummed me out. The lack of custom emotes or shaders also bummed me out.

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@stuck smelt Did you get the update?

stuck smelt
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Yes, after the update I cannot enter vrchat, because of this @shrewd oar

shrewd oar
#

@stuck smelt Oh boy

stuck smelt
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whats that mean?

shrewd oar
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I'm not a developer, but I was just complementing devs for optimizing VRC for the quest

stuck smelt
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😦 k

shrewd oar
#

k

obsidian zealot
#

Currently if your home is set to a Pc only world, quest VRChat will only work for one session (because it overrides home with the tutorial world) and after that session to can’t log in due to android world not available and no redirect happens

elder pecan
#

@stuck smelt That's on quest ?

violet lodge
#

Been an issue for a while

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Though another canny says it was fixed I guess it's back

shrewd oar
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Oh yeah. Simple solution is to uninstall and log in with your Oculus Quest account

violet lodge
#

Oh wait adeon you made that canny 😄

shrewd oar
#

After reinstalling

violet lodge
#

And yeah couldn't you just press the default home button 🤔

shrewd oar
#

Yeah. Go to default home

elder pecan
#

Looking into it, pretty sure it was fixed

obsidian zealot
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Occured at time of my canny, haven’t tried since 2018

dusk bison
#

@lusty vector Is it still stuck uninstalling? I’m having the same issue with modded beat saber, everyone’s been telling me to factory reset to fix it. If you factory reset all of your purchases will stay, but you’ll definitely lose a lot of stuff.

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I’m pretty sure it’s v15 that’s causing the uninstall glitch, it might be fixed if you wait for the next quest update.

lusty vector
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let me check, i've been trying to avoid factory resetting but im running out of options.

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alright

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@dusk bison yes, I'm still stuck on uninstalling

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with beat saber modding that seems like an issue people keep having

dusk bison
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I’d wait a bit just in case.

lusty vector
#

okay

#

my Quest has been stuck "uninstalling" VRChat for about 2 hours now

violet vigil
#

Vrchat has become extremely unstable for quest and it's getting annoying... :^)

Every time I enter a map, eventually I just get sent home, and whenever I try to rejoin I get sent to my homescreen on quest. I was in this loop for about 30 minutes before I managed to finally join my friends and not crash.

Sooo, F. Only thing I enjoy about this update is how finger trails look better.

dusk bison
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Oof

lusty vector
#

no update on my situation by the way.

#

i am still stuck on uninstalling

#

i left my Quest turned off for nearly 2 hours and it's been left on for about another 2 hours combined

#

any update for you @dusk bison?

dusk bison
#

Mine has been stuck uninstalling since Tuesday

lusty vector
#

oh

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im going to try and backup my save data and beat saber songs and do a factory reset, I think I'm out of options sadly

dusk bison
#

I would go through the official oculus website

lusty vector
#

i don't know if you have to though

dusk bison
#

customer support or whatever

lusty vector
#

i mean oculus replies to reddit threads pretty often

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the problem with that

dusk bison
#

that’s just a bot telling you a faq

lusty vector
#

they basically are like "ok, try this ONE THING, if that don't work then ok reset destory everything ok bye"

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ah i see

dusk bison
#

definitely go thru customer support, that’s the last thing I can think of.

lusty vector
#

do they just have like a live chat or do I have to wait on a ticket

#

and tomorrow is friday

#

this is fine

#

and i have no idea where my charging cable is

#

this is fine

#

nevermind i am just blind

#

i think you can backup data through SideQuest so

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not sure how well that works but I pretty much just have data in Beat Saber and SideQuest

stuck smelt
#

@elder pecan idk

elder pecan
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@lusty vector So you rebooted your quest already ?

lusty vector
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yeah, multiple times

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I think my last option is a factory reset sadly

dusk bison
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They have a live chat.

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You don’t need a ticket, you can queue into a line.

lusty vector
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where?

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send a link if you can please

dusk bison
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I’ll see if I can find it, it’s tricky to navigate to lol

lusty vector
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okay

dusk bison
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I think they actually removed it, looks like you need a support ticket now, oof

lusty vector
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aaa

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im trying to back up my BMBF data before resetting

dusk bison
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let me know how that goes, I’ll need to do that as well when I factory reset

lusty vector
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oh you have BMBF data already?

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i thought you were installing it for the first time

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also SideQuest can backup sava data apparently

dusk bison
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What happened was I went to update my bmbf to 1.8 and then that happened lol. Hopefully the process is easy

lusty vector
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just backed up everything, i had a lot of data on my Quest apparently so had to free up a bunch of space on my PC

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just finished factory resetting, repairing my headset to the app rn

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the factory reset takes very little time compared to what I was thinking

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at least from the app

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feels very weird with everything missing

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my library was filled to the brim with pre-installed demos anyways so it makes it a bit easier to look at

lusty vector
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welp

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even after a full factory reset

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i still freeze indefinitely upon logging in to VRChat

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i can still here to menu music

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but the screen is frozen

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i submitted a support ticket to VRC, I'm completely stumped now :/

haughty coyote
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yeah, this update is a fucking joke.

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i am actually going to scream at the VRC team for this someday.

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things were better back then. now? its just a like someone swept away your jigsaw puzzle and completely destroyed it.

blazing sparrow
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<@&397642795457970181> ^ delet

haughty coyote
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I sent a support ticket asking about new features 2 months ago or so and they still haven’t replied...

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And it was before the corona virus

mystic marlin
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What does colliders option mean?

tawdry wyvern
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delete collider you must

dusk bison
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So I updated my unity and sdk properly (I think) and whenever I port the new sdk into my unity project it only gives me the utilities option.

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For more detail I’m using the new 2018 version of unity with sdk2. I’ve gotten it to where before I click import everything is checked on the sdk.

elder pecan
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then it wasn't properly lulw

dusk bison
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Damn it. I spent hours trying to delete everything properly. I think its the vrcsdk.meta that won’t let me. I searched all over my computer for vrcsdk.meta and it just wasn’t there.

elder pecan
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you have to show hidden files

dusk bison
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Got it, I’ll see if that does the trick. Thanks! I just rly want to put jellyfish jam on my avatar lol

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@lusty vector Once a new quest version comes out that will probably fix it if all else fails.

lusty vector
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That appears to be the solution, I got a reply to my support ticket saying that the 2020.1.1 update is having issues.

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I can play just fine using Oculus Link.

sleek pine
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After 2020.1.1p2 one of my avatars is invisible to myself and everyone else

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Maybe I should be saying this in the support channeo