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I've been having difficulty connecting to VRChat. Every time I attempt to launch the game these error message shows up: "Make sure your device has a working internet connection and restart VRChat" I don't use a pc. Any ideas on how I can fix this (I have a very fast consistent internet connection, its just whenever I try to play vrchat I get that message) I am in the blue space screen and I see the vrchat logo roating, I have done a factory reset and reinstalled still no luck
can anybody help?
it's still broken
as in
it moves, i can grab things
but it doesn't show hand gestures
or trigger what it usually does
What headset?
Quest
Ah right. Lol
Uh, I know oculus just put out an update that seemed to break a lot of people's tracking and some input. Maybe it might be due to that?
but the thing is, it's only broken in VRC
well
vrc is the only one really with gestures
but if it was the update wouldn't it also affect the left hand?
I don't know.
hm
is there a mod here
Is it me or the vrchat world keeps crashing on me
Thats you
why is freind list lagging
blue, thats bruh af
and unlikely to ever support it
as you wouldn't have any way to control your character movement
and apparently due to how it works it can not track both the controllers and the hands at the same time
cool
According to the SDK that came out today, you can actually use 1 controller and 1 hand, even though the UI that’s currently there doesn’t do that
So vrchat on the quest can totally do that. It currently supports 1 controller 👍
hey I fixed the issue with the hand
Any news on Hand tracking? I’m doubtful it’ll happen but was curious if devs had said anything after getting the SDK
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Is Oculus Quest best budget option for VR?
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Also does it support body tracking?
Can't find a buying guide.
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May anyone @ me with links to purchase the items needed for the full experience with body tracking?
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Do I need a beast graphics card for VR Chat?
- No
huh
1. if you're planning to do PCVR, get a Rift S or save even more bucks with an Odyssey+ depending if you don't mind WMR's controllers and slightly lesser tracking volume
2. Oculus Link on SteamVR will support any frankenstein FBT method you'll throw at it just like other roomscale headsets.
3. You have multiple options for FBT.
a) HTC Vive Trackers and Base Stations (Around 500 dollars) gives the best tracking
b) PlayStation Move controllers and PSEye cameras using PSMoveService and KinectToVR 0.6.0 (price varies between 150-250 dollars depending on luck and availability) only 30hz tracking but with 3 cameras has quality similar to Vive trackers.
c) Nolo with Driver4VR (around 200-350) solid tracking, but because of the singular external sensor, is mostly front-facing.
d) Xbox One Kinect with KinectToVR (around 70-90 dollars) mostly front-facing, can't do some poses, 60hz tracking, completely gives up when facing away from it as it can't tell what way your body is facing.
e) Xbox 360 Kinect with KinectToVR (around 10-25 dollars) 30hz compared to One, still works sideways but is definitely on the verge of giving up, and turning your body into mashed potato. Still does the job for a lot of people and is pretty much unbeatable value at the price of a Happy Meal.
4. Personally I would recommend a 1660 or 1660 TI for VR at all. I'm running on a 1050 TI and while it's playable. Most VR games are pushing it to the limit. You definitely don't need a 2080 or a 5700xt to enjoy high-quality VR on PC, but you also shouldn't skimp out.
5. $$$ BONUS $$$ You also want a somewhat recent semi-high-end CPU (last 5 years), plenty of RAM and a good motherboard with enough USB bandwidth if running Oculus Link.
@unreal egret
yee
Essay
It's important that people know what they're getting into with VR
That’s great
@azure mantle Thank you sir
@azure mantle I appreciate you taking the time to type a detailed response. Saved it in my Google Keep for future reference. Sounds like I gotta spend more than I think because probably gotta upgrade my computer. Need to make more money to buy all this stuff lol. Plus got the girlfriend to take care of too. Guess I gotta wait a little longer
protip: dont buy an og vive or a rift cv1 unless theres an insane deal, and stay the FUCK away from the vive cosmos
just follow that and honestly, it's hard to fuckup otherwise
oof haha
yeah ive just been looking at videos and i definitely decided i dont id rather have an oculus
probably mainly becouse of comfort and controllers
and public opinion
im pretty happy with my choice for the quest and im excited to get it for christmas :)
🤦♂️
convert music to ogg
reduce texture size
reduce baked lighting resolution
literally any single of those will get you the size reduction needed
@azure mantle Crunching baked lighting works wonders for size.
yee
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@azure mantle I have done every one of those. I have a bunch of rooms for quest. That room just has a ton of stuffs
i love how its only 0.89 mb too big
@rose patio it probably wont happen but i hope so
but there is now a hand tracking game on sidequest
apparently the rendering of it is slower then the response of it.. but the occlusion happens quickly too
Hmmm.
I’m getting a quest battery any recommendations?
literally any large capacity battery bank should do. If you have Amazon Prime, I'm pretty sure their battery banks will end up cheaper
and a USB-C cable with a right-angle connector at the end
Lol Ik but I heard some are better then others and would like to know if any of you have a certain preference
So idk if this is the right channel, but one of my friends has been searching for the person uses the Dapiviki account? I forgot you spell it. He said she hasn’t been online for quite a few days.
well it is almost Christmas so that's not too surprising
I was told she hasn’t been on since Sunday.
Not the right channel, also there are over 20000 people on this server, why do you think anyone would have noticed her?
env, theres actually over 100k people on here
Oh wow, it's gone up a bit since I last checked.
VRchat is going to the moon
Hey would anyone like to join a quest only group for vr chat it’s a one time offer
Dm me if want in
I dont have a quest 💁
But ur in quest general tho
It’s a little hard for me to find groups of quest players who are actually chatty, but maybe that’s just me.
I can just stop upload quest stuff and private the past one if people start to segrageted themself from other plateform
But then you'd be part of the problem. 😭
Is it bad to have Avatars that can crash someone
incredibly bad
Super bad -.-
how is that even a question
Quest going to have full body tracking later hehehehhe
it's not going to as that's not really doable without an external camera currently
the Vive uses external sensors
so that's functionally the same thing as cameras as far as the Vive being able to see your legs when you're not looking at them
like the quest is pretty much doing guesswork when your hands are behind your back
@south wedge Antilatency makes BUSINESS solutions for location-based entertainment. You cannot buy this as a consumer. And no retail app or game is going to make use of it.
Guess were gonna wait more than months then
you're not going to see FBT on Quest, ever.
The Oculus SDK as it currently stands does not support more than 3-point tracking
and there is no demand from "mainstream VR" consumers for FBT
and also considering Facebook Horizons Oculus has no interest in legs
FBT is a expensive toy for folks on vrchat and Neo VR
I can't believe Facebook used their billions of dollar to figure out how to make IK not garbage. They just removed it!
^^ That hit me really hard im in disappointed rn
Look, go buy a fuckin gaming rig, an xbone kinect and the oculus link cable
then come back here and I'll help ya set up your FBT
then you'll sell your Quest and Link cable 2 months later and go buy an Index and trackers
so yeah an expensive toy
considering you just suggested they spend like 1700 bucks
If you see someone on Discord or in VRChat claiming that the Quest is going to have full-body tracking literally at any point in the future.
Tell them what we just told you.
Im about to switch to vive
Vive is almost 4 years old, has terrible godrays, breaks if you look at it funny
HTC is boutta make themselves bankrupt if they continue on the way they're doing with Cosmos and Viveport
Then wth Im I suppose to buy?
Rift S, Index or Odyssey+
No other headset really matters rn
or is worth the money, from a factual point of view
Rift S has low quality is it that true or low latency?
that's very false
the Rift S' LCD panel uses an RGB stripe layout to give percieved higher resolution despite only being 1440p
Latency isn’t an issue at all
The 80hz refresh rate is not going to fuck you in the ass unless you're a nolife Index hermit running at 144hz and only taking off your headset 4 times a week to piss and eat
Lol
and even then, you'd adapt in a week
The only thing that sucks balls about Rift S imo, is the audio
but if you already have your own earbuds or headphones, you'll be fine
Thats ok tho
And also the lack of physical IPD
Well I think it’s not that bad at all. Switching from headset sucks for like the first 10 minutes but the speakers aren’t that bad. Ofc you won’t have IMAX quality bass or anything but they are decent for VRChat and Beat Saber
I would probably Focus first on the computer and the Kinect if you already have the quest so that you have more time to save up for the PC headset
Rn now my objective buying cheap parts
For cable link isnt is the same thing that your charging rn?
The disappointed! Flips Table
Ah yes, but you can get a 13 dollar Anker cable on Amazon and it's like 3.5 meters
definitely not enough if you plan to move around and do FBT, but yknow
its a 13 dollar 12footer
nope basically they're just pointing out you're likely to trip on the cable with it that shorts if you're doing full-body tracking
Hold up what product are you talking about for fbt
we haven't discussed any product yet
confused
we were just noticing if you plan on full-body tracking eventually you would want a longer cable
if youre tracking your entire body, youll want to be walking around your room. if the cable is 3 meters long. youll trip, fall over and die
For cable ik how to organize it not need to worry
organizations not going to help you if the cables too short
Im saying is I dont wanna move around much
then why are you interested in full-body tracking
it's pretty much useless if you're going to be standing in place
700 bucks really isn't worth it to just wiggle a leg occasionally
Well... people kinda bored using it in vrchat sometime
Hmm I guess thats reason no other use
well full-body tracking kind of useless except for something like vrchat as you're not going to implement a feature that folks to buy extra Hardware to use it whereas that's kind of okay for a social vr app
most times you find FBT users
theyre extenuated from having actually moved
hence they sit/lay down so as not to die
yes it's physically exhausting to run around and dance and all of that with a VR headset on top of your head
I also hate controller really much heavier that I couldnt play beatsaber
well you're pretty much bones then as hand tracking won't let you play Beat saber or vrchat
Im relating to Vive controllers that like 10 pounds >_>
Like about to break the wall instantly
If also straps were weak
do you have any problems with your quest controllers
Oh nah its the best BUT
My left controller movement has a problem
Its going to be hard to explain
unfortunately I'm not knowledgeable enough in Hardware to try to suggest to fix
But lets say that when you touch the joystick move up and the joystick automatically moves down when not touching the joystick at least 0.1 seconds.
It irritates me I have to rely my right joy stick for use
And for buying another controller on that price oh hek no
can't really help with your problem there
but honestly it sounds like from your use case of VR full-body tracking would be an overly expensive toy for you if your preferred way to play is on your bed
My saving is on already on pc
Normally a network issue
it works fine on desktop though
hello
Hola
hola amigo
Nice
Cool cool
I tried a demo at best buy and was amazed
so I decided oculus quest was a good choice
Yeah it's definitely good as it's own unit. It gets a lot of negativity, but honestly I think it's a good headset. Especially now that you can use it on a PC as well
the demo guy was real nice and added me on Oculus as well
Oh nice!
My bestbuy didn't have a demo, but I almost became a sales person to the sales person as they were asking me how VR was, if it was worth it, how does it compare to psvr
also when I enabled hand tracking
he tried it out and his mind was blown
since he didnt fiddle with the settings too much
are there any quest user here available as a test subject?
what do you plan on doing
i need someone to test clone my uploaded quest avatar to see if its working
i don't have quest to test it so...
oorf
well let me know if anyone is freee, could really use some testers
You could also upload your quest avatar as a PC avatar to test it. That's how I test mine, but my PC and Quest avatar are always the same so it's easy for me.
@worldly rapids yeah but then i want someone to wear it so i can orbit around it in-game and observe the inside and stuff
You could have a PC user use it for you, right? Should work
@eager pebble I can be in a minute?
@sharp bay can you? hm...let me know when you are
Im on
@sharp bay whats your ign
Same
Can I play Vrchat with the Oculus Go?
No
correction: you used to on the testing build, it wasnt a supported use case and is long gone. otherwise use ALVR connected to your PC over Wi-Fi and play VRChat there.
well with go's controller tho? 
Welcome
@haughty coyote GO, not quest
also, paul, it works, vrchat handles single-controller input fine
If anyone wants to hangout in vrchat feel free to dm ^^ Need new friends :P on the quest obviously :P
im gonna get the link
Pretty terrible to be honest. It's super limited and what does exist is pretty horrible compared to the PC experience.
f
If you're buying for the sake of PCVR, get the Rift S as the picture's higher res and the headset is more comfortable.
i have a hella good gaming pc but i wanted to get the quest because i travel a lot and want to bring my vr with me, im hoping that the oculous link cable will be rlly good tho, because im planning on playing most of my games on the pc with link
but if its trash im gonna sell it and buy rift s
Just buy a cheap $9 cable. As long as it's USB 3.1, it'll work.
The only reason the Oculus cable is more expensive is because it's fibre optic so they can make it longer, that's literally the only advantage. So unless you really need 5 metres over 3, save your money.
yeh true but i hear a lot of people saying that the cable is going to bring less latency, better quality and stuff like that, i have no idea if that is true tho lol, im probably going to buy the 10ft anker cable on amazon for now untill i see a review of the link when it comes out
It's not true. For some reason Quest owners like to make up nonsense constantly and I genuinely have no idea why.
Lol
I think the quest with the link is still gonna be fine enough quality for me to play vr chat
Yeah, it'll be fine.
bits are bits
I just ordered the cheap link cable
rlly excited now lol
how to emote
wdym? just move your hands? https://files.readme.io/3c8e9ff-VRChat-Oculus-Controls.png
@azure mantle Sorry to @ you but are the controls similar to Quest controls? If so I would love to have that chart in my world since a lot of Quest users that are new don't seem to know how to do them.
they should be exactly the same
since quest controllers are literally touch controllers with a flipped ring
A lot of Quest users have told me what I tell them doesn't work but maybe I'm just explaining it badly. lol
@worldly rapids Quest and Rift S controls are the same
(literally the same controllers)
Thank you, that's good to know. Now I know when someone says, "That's not how you do hand gun!" I know they're wrong. Haha
Could be an avatar with some sort of override in that instance.
Oh, it's that they were using an avatar I made and hand gun was to make the prop spawn but they couldn't get it even though it was hand gun.
Odd. Sure that it actually works on Quest?
Yeah, they got it eventually, but they always mention that the way I told them to do it was incorrect. I'm a pretty lousy teacher though. 🙃
Hello, i've got kind of a big problem and i think it's account related. So when i log in on the quest just after installing VRC everything works fine, but as soon as i close the game and reopen it i am stuck in a infinite world change loop. I tried it with a unlinked new ocolus acc and it didn't happen but as soon as i linked the account and relogged the problem was back
@sharp bay theyre right here ^
https://puu.sh/ESPko/7847466476.mp4 here's a video of the issue
Can we get this fixed somehow or would it be smarter to create a new account and re-add all old friends/redo all blocks/favs, etc
@distant mountain What's with the name? You look like you're impersonating the official bot.
i have that name since 2017. that's just a temporary account until i can regain access to my main account which was hacked
login with the clean acc that works, then go to settings advanced settings, and clear both the cache and userprofile
then reinstall the game
then login
@azure mantle i already tried a clean uninstall + reinstall
not even that worked
then idfk
it was basically broken on a brand new out of the box quest
@distant mountain you sure it isn't that your home world is PC only?
that's why i think it has smth to do with the acc
If you uninstall and reinstall vrchat, it should take you to tutorial world. Use that opportunity to do Reset Home in the worlds menu
@distant mountain you sure it isn't that your home world is PC only?
shouldn't that just throw me in default home instead of doing what it does then?
no, it's broken
oh
at least it was a month ago
i'll give that a try
we should really get a canny filed. it basically means PC users won't ever use quest :-p
It's fine as long as their home is Quest compatible, I cross platform all the time.
yea but not if your home isn't Quest compatible
as I don't play on quest every day, I quite enjoy having a home with some crazy complicated PC only effects. At one point it was Treehouse in the Shade. Currently it's "Camera Test" because that's a fun home world
A dummy Quest version of worlds isn't a terrible idea...
Complete in "Open Beta" but no word if the fix was shipped to production
given that Open Beta has meant unity 2018 for a couple months now, I'm guessing they mean it's fixed in 2018 when that gets released after the holidays
Oh, hi. Uhhh, im kinda just gonna be here...
Sorry if thats something that bugs you.
"Fixed in 2019.4.1, which is currently in Open Beta. We don't have a Quest Open Beta, so this can't be tested by Community, but we've internally verified this is fixed." - Sounds like it
thank chu
Merry Christmas everyone!
when you get an oculus quest for christmas and the cable you ordered for oculus link comes the next day
:d
You could use ALVR in the meantime if you have good WiFi.
At least try it standalone
@tawdry swift Have you? Everything looks so bad 😦
I haven’t but from what I’ve heard it’s not super awful
If I did get past the Facebook gate and get one I’d at least try it standalone, you know
Streaming to it is ok, but in VRC natively, there's no anti-aliasing, textures are all very low res, everything is very polygonal, etc. The few worlds you can go to are all super basic in every way.
The junkyard, crafty climbers? 😔
how do I use ALVR?
I've not tried any climbing maps because Quest doesn't track your hands above your head, it just freaks out so I'm not sure that would work well.
do I have to downlaod extra shit to my quest
I'll have to try out the Junkyard.
But a lot of vrc is the social part not just the poorly made maps by amateurs
Poorly optimised rather
I know they're yours, but they kinda fall under the super basic category 😉 That's essentially all you can do on Quest, super stylised worlds to try and hide the limitations.
So yeah, as I said, your world gets by on being super stylised so you're able to use few textures and low res ones at that, but the world is still small. Definitely one of the better (best?) Quest maps out there. But even then, on my own in your world, I'm only getting ~36fps. So taking into account the optimisation and such, it still struggles.
(and it's aliased to hell due to all the sharp lines paired with the lack of anti-aliasing on the headset)
Frame rate shouldn’t be that bad
Might have fucked something up on the Christmas update
The map is one material one mesh..
inb4 particles
I think so
Yeah 36 fps for blue's world sounds pretty weird 🤔
I have snow fall didn’t realise it would be this bad
wouldn't it actually be better if it was separated in chunks with occlusion culling?
cause now you're rendering the entire map every frame
Yea but it’s so low poly anyway triping
Isn't making it one mesh somewhat counterproductive? As it basically means you get zero culling?
I guess
lol, god damnit Trip
Yes but it’s so low poly anyway
Sorry, I'm wearing the headset and trying to type while looking at my desktop display via the nose hole.
Less than most avatars tbh 👀
I was thinking of your other map when I went to this one. I wonder if the one I was thinking of was crafty climbers, let me go check.
Cc is the cardboard one
Ah, yeah I was thinking of CC.
CC looks much better because the softer colour pallet blends and doesn't create those sharp aliased edges.
But what is the music? It's like a perfect blend of Final Fantasy and Last of the Summer Wine, rofl.
Framerate is a solid 72 almost all the time though, with infrequent drops to mid 60s.
It’s Pikmin 3 garden of hope
That frame rate sounds about right
Might roll back that junkyard update
Or remove the snowy particles
wait, are the snow particles using transparency?
Yep I’m going to get rid of them ASAP
Oh no, the cardinal rule of Quest, no transparency 😛
I know but snow is coool
Haha. I remember when someone said no transparency, I was like... but... how the what? That rules out so many things.
I still use cutout because I can’t not
1 is profiling the junkyard for me and I have totally ducked something up and now Christmas is ruined
😔
Aww, sorry Asis, I shouldn't have said anything.
make it a toggle
It’s all good I’m sure the quest people will survive considering the avatars the see every day
jesus christ it takes a while for the oculus client to download
yeah, even if you have gigabit fiber it takes its sweet time
also ya hear?
tyler mcvicker (host of Valve news network) got given a combine metro cop helmet
saw it
and also got vegan version of the pink cookies the valve devs are always talking about
hi
Can someone he
Think you meant help
just got my quest and downloaded vr chat
i opened it and its taking forever to load, how long does it usually do that?
at this point i just put down the headaet and let it load on its own
@livid rampart have you used vrchat on PC before? Sometimes your home world needs to be reset on pc if it's not quest compatible
i have used it on pc before
but i havent even logged into my steam account on the auest yet
so theres no way for it to even know what my home world is
and its been there for like 5 minutes already
does anyone here know how to upload modles
Any news on when mics will be back up? The newest update turned them off
ugh
now it says "cannot connect to vr chat " or something
" Cannot Connect to VR Chat
make sure your device has a working internet connection and restart VR chat"
@livid rampart your network is having trouble. What country are you in and what internet service provider / carrier do you use?
Ok, I am not aware of any issues from germany: though telekom isn't known for their amazing service, it should work...
Do you use your own wireless router or one provided by Telekom? The issue is probably either on your end somehow so I would check your wireless settings... though vrchat did have some issues last night so maybe there is a connection problem
i dont know
i mean- it's pretty wired xD
im sorry im really bad with tech stuff like this
but my wifi should be fine?
i can do everything else with no issue, inluding multiplayer games on pc
Telekom IS known for their direct / good service for me (Im on Telekom since ages) they're the actual DSL/Fibre net provider for many places that can actually do stuff unlike others.
(Ofc every company has good and bad callcenter people which you might end up with initially.
)
And yes, there shouldn't be general issue with them. If there are it's local infrastructure issues. (where it does not matter if you chose Telekom or a different "leasing" ISP for DSL / Fibre)
If you're using their Speedport routers, they can definitely be hit or miss and you should look into a propper Wireless AP eventually. 
Hey Does Anyone here Know a fix for a Loading Loop?
make sure your router / internet is not causing issues to the photon / aws server
you can try restarting your router.
Ill Try Thanks!
Also One More Thing Is It Normal That i can only see quest supported avatars?
It is normal that you can only see quest supported avatar on the quest... yes 
ight
I really like how oculus diddn't include a microfibre cloth with the quest
ikr
its like they want you to damage your lenses so you buy a new one 😄
...
also a thing I don't get about the whole quest supported avatar stuff is that the quest is meant to have a polygon limit of 10k
but then it refuses to show you avatars that are under the limit
the default is 7,5k
oh
you can raise the default to 10k
how do you do that?
dunno, propably somewhere in the security / performance menue
welp no point trying to bypass the limit set, imma just use oculus link when my cable gets here
(rip offical cable not released in the uk yet.)
You set the Safety advanced menu to allow Poor avatars by default.
Yo I just got the quest yesterday. Tryna make some friends, who down to play?
I got my yesterday too.
I wouldn't mind. @earnest yoke
Also question, has anybody else had issues with their mic on Oculus Quest?
I've been told I'm very quiet even with it on max and the quality isn't great, so you may need to talk a lot louder.
Yeah same. Just be loud and obnoxious and you’re good
Nah, like
I got it hooked up via Oculus Link (and I can play Steam VR on it fine and all that)
I hear with Oculus link the mic won't work
The latest update causes some issues for some people
yeah, mic doesnt work with oculus link yet
it sucks, i sold my rift in anticipation of being able to buy the index and then they backlog it
so im stuck using link for god knows how long
Works on virtual desktop
IT doesnt use your internet connection, why would it
It does, but why would it leave your house?
Thanks for the confirmation on the mic @worthy dune 👋
@frosty shard
How can I make it so I can see perf avatars without doing the click on avatar and pressing show avatar
you can only set avatars to show automatically up to poor
which means 4 materials and 10000 polygons
anyone above that you'll always have to enable manually
because there's technically no limit to certain things after that, if you made all very poor avatars show automatically, loading into any populated world would crash you instantly just from the GPU and memory load of all the avatars
Oh
Ayyy fellow quest users
So what's the deal with airline food?
I've only had vr for 2 days now and it's so weird after playing it for so long, like it still feels like I'm in a game
I feel like my movements and phone screen are like lagging behind its so bizarre
That's common when you're new to VR. It goes away after a few days of getting used to VR
Ok thx, tho when u put it that way it sounds like almost a drug [joke]
Your brain is just getting used to the different senses. VR over time also seems to train you to fight against motion sickness and other stuff as you get used to it
Ok, I've never rly had a prob with motion sickness
It definitely needs time to get used to tho
I've never worn glasses and it just feels like that screen and lenses are just always tracked to my eyes irl
Like glasses and it's kind of uncomfortable
Yeah. It's just something new 
🤔
Just as far as it's more noticable right now
E
nine-year-olds aren't really allowed on the internet as it's illegal to collect data under 13
the reasoning in that article is applicable to pretty much any other website
can someone help me to put models in my world
it wooorks!! Haha, trying out avatars and goofing off in front of a mirror is way too much fun 😂
a few questions tho-
- how do i jump
- how do expressions work
- how do i record videos on the quest? if i close it only gives me the option to take a screenshot
oh also, does the character not turnnaround with me if i move my head/body (aka hands)?
i mean it seems not to work if i just move my body and arms, but idk if it works with the headset since.. well.. obviously i couldnt look in the mirror to check then 😂
I can't speak to the controls on Quest, but your avatar's body turns with the headset unless you have a tracker for your waist (which I'm reasonably certain is not compatible with Quest, but there may be some workarounds if tethered)
yeahh i definitely wanna do that someday haha, but not now
i managed to answer 1 and 3 myself
but i still dont know about 2
none of the characters i had seemed to change expression based on my fingers
do they just all not have any expressions..??
That's done in Unity using animators
It's entirely possible they don't have expressions. I'm not sure how common it is for Quest avatars
turns out the 1050 is the worst graphics card in existance
when you use it for vr, it does that screenmelt effect
and it really fucks with your eyes
and any FX series cpus
? :(
also scribble, take that to oculus support, vrchat aint responable for their app
oh whoops wrong discord
they don't have a discord.
@fading kraken Well yeah, that GPU is below the minimum spec even for the lower res headsets 4 years ago...
okay I need help with a cpu
would any of the FX series cpus be able to run vr
at any quality with an RX 580
cause im stuck on what to get first, replace my 1050 with an RX580?
or get a ryzen 3 2200G with 16GB ram and a new motherboard
damn why is vrchat so laggy on quest
audio kept cutting, avatars werent loading, and laggy
when i went near people the game would freeze
The FX series were never good for VR, so that's not recommended. Both kinda need to go to be honest 😦
@haughty coyote Try playing in more optimized/smaller worlds, make sure you're not showing a bunch of very poor performance avatar, and I'd stick to worlds with maybe 12 or less players possibly.
hi, when will I be allowed to publish my worlds?
Soon
@keen patrol ha ha...
Can anybody answer whether vrchat will support oculus link so the quest can see and do what pc can?
@short wraith oculus link works on it's own. VRChat will just think the quest with link is a rift S and launch the Rift S version. So yes
hey i have a question
are you guys aware of a link avatar for the quest?
i can never find specific avatars for vr chat anywhere >:( ESPECIALLY for the quest, NOT EVEN on google
oof
you could potentially upload a link avatar yourself
?
Yes as long as you are ranked up to the level of new user it is possible to upload custom avatars.
You may not find something that is ready to upload to vrchat. If you find a rigged model you can get it ready to upload yourself.
Yeah
Got a language warning for no reason, strange
Anyways
Okay it's that word
Right
My avatar doesn't have an animator and won't animate in vrchat is the error I get
And I'm not too sure how to deal with it
Does the top most part of the avatar have a animator script (where you would put the vrc_avatar_descriptor
I had to add an animator component
And atm it's now saying the feet and upper arms haven't been mapped
time to check the rig
who can model for me
UwU.... I've never modeled before but... If you think I'd be good at it >\<
so uh, i’m new to vrchat on the quest, and i was wondering how to import custom avatars to a quest. is it by a cable to your pc, or something else?
you install unity on your pc
and use the sdk there to upload them to your vrchat account
and then they show up in the game
aight, thanks
@twilit surge I recommend you ask in #avatars-2-general or #avatar-quest to start with
Hi
Heya Sailors
Ahoy spongeboy me bob
So follow the instructions...
ok is fix thank you
one thing that sucks about oculus is that the tracking can stop working at any time for any reason
like roomscale, or stationary
I've never had this
nice
Guys, this isn't #general-media ...
either is the droid attack on the wookies
Please keep things to their proper channels
uwu
ARE WE 100% SURE THAT THIS ISNT #general-media
maybe the mod team needs some fucking chill
like how UMG needs to chill the fuck out with their "copyright" bullshit
against jameskiii
Keeping channels on topic so they don't get filled with random crap is not "needing some chill"
Moving like a Quester
Sorry, I have a quick question: Is Oculus Quest, the new one bundled with Vader Immortal, does that still run differently then what a normal Oculus Rift S or HTC Cosmos would show in VR Chat? As in, on a Oculus Quest, some avatar's don't show up, right?
but oculus link beta exists
if your pc can run an oculus rift S
it can run the quest
Oculus Link Beta?
But the Microphone doesn't work on the Link making it pretty useless right now, no?
uhmm yeah it does work
its pretty good too
the rift S doesen't come with built in headphones or mic
Was that fixed in a patch then?
oh wait
Rift S most definitely has a built in Mic
you mean link
What? The rift S has a mic and speakers the same as quest
well you would use your own headset anyways if you wanted link
... what? Well no, the whole point of an all in one headset is that you use the built in functionality, e.g. mic and headphones.
So anyway, does or does not the microphone work with Link currently?
Well, less "new tech" and more a "dirty hack" but still.
cause when I tried, it was dogshit, screenmelt effect = eye cancer
cause fuck my gpu
Why I was asking, is that the Rift's are sold out where I am, but they do have the WMD for cheap. I have a rig that can run a VR Headset pretty darn well, and most games at Ultra with no slowdown.
There are some decent WMRs like the Reverb, Odysee+, etc.
Odyssey+ screen is still awesome
hello, i was wondering why most worlds aren't available on the quest? like i remember being able to play slenderman etc with friends but i can't find any of the worlds used to on pc
and are they going to change that?
I think some world just wont be compatible but im not sure
aw ok, thanks
Basically the Quest isn't anywhere near as powerful as a full PC and thus the worlds and avatars can't just be straight ported over. Even if it was, it's a different architecture and the content needs to be recompiled and rebuilt explicitly for Android instead.
Nyyaaaaaa
Meow there 
Does anyone else have an issue where people they have added as friends don’t show up?? I have added several people and not a single person shows up in my friends list
I hate that so many avatars don't show up
A lot of avatars are on Quest now, just a good portion are at very poor performance. Be sure to at least change your minimal displayed avatars based on performance to Poor so you can see more avatars. As for the very poor ones I honestly wouldn't bother with those even though you can see them by hitting "Show Avatar" on them.
Bruh same need VRchat friends 😔
tbh I don't understand what makes the quest different from pc based still
The Quest is not as powerful as the PC so it has different avatar requirements. The Quest version of the game is on Android instead of PC as well so it's uploaded on Android platform and PC so everyone can see it the same way us PC users can't see a Quest avatar if it's only uploaded on Quest. Very tired, I hope this is as easy to understand as I think it is. lol
I meant in general but I get that
Oh, my bad
no worries
My favorite that I saw was someone who uploaded some anime girl on the PC version of the avatar and some random ugly dude for the Quest version so PC users were like, "Oh, that's cute." And the Quest users were just cracking up at the PC users.
Lol
💡 is a thing in unicode you know?
Regarding the quest versus PC avatar matter, What about if you plug thr quest in with a Link cable and render graphics on the PC
then thats just running on a PC
those that wanted to run PC on Quest and had the rig for it have been doing so with ALVR and VD for months
It doesn't bring anyone anywhere
The Quest is simply low-spec, the fact it can run VRChat is due to the limitations on avatars, which are actually pretty forgiving considering how much a 10k poly 2 material avatar with hundreds of blendshapes will actually cost on the gpu
heh thats cool, the AMD FX-6300 can even run vr, but not very well
yeah, uhh, 6300 is pushing it, might survive on WMR
yeah.
but hopefully an upgrade from GTX 1050 to a RX580 should stop the screenmelt effect
maybe a little more like from 1050 to 1060
still not much of a worthy upgrade
cmon I aint paying like 250 quid for a 1070
I would rather buy a RX580 and ryzen 3
anyway uhh
screenmelt will NEVER stop
That's just how Oculus ASW works on desktop
oh
it was written by apes
And I always keep it off
press Ctrl-Num1 to turn that fucker off
ASW? what does that mean again
fake frames inbetween other frames to make it look like thers more frames but not really
also, 1050 can totally run fine
how do I turn ASW off?
scroll up
do I go into oculus app?
at any point while a VR app is running, press ctrl-num1
okay
I recommend you get Oculus Tray Tool
the first result on google is a reddit trhead with a shady looking download link, thats the right one
well the other issue I get is
My sis runs on a 4core amd apu with like no IPC compared to an FX, and a 1050, and it runs fine
you know how vr works with when you move your head, a box moves with it that displays everything
well lets say its moving at light speed and I can see the black void
displays your game.
You don't want that to go away
but well, I can see the black void
It won't go away when pressing Ctrl-Num1 or using OTT
Yes, that's normal
I can too
well hopefully with ASW off it shouldn't show as much
It will show as much, you should look into optimizing your Windows install and VR experience
its that laggy I cannot select buttons in steamvr quick menu
also im going to have to reactivate windows anyways when I get my new motherboard next month
imma not try link beta until I have my new gpu installed
Please pray or my grandmother, she suffered from a stroke today.
I'm sorry to hear that, and I hate to be that guy but this is the wrong channel for that. But again, I wish your grandmother well
Maybe she had a Quest..
That's possible, very true
👀
Thank you, I could not find the correct channel and I am hoping she recovers.
I am sorry, I did not notice which channel I was in
Well, there isn't really a correct channel. It's not really social form to join a random discord server full of strangers and tell them about random family issues.
rift s gang
Can't wait for the Oculus link for Quest
I am pretty hype about it
The cable is already out i believe
I got told it come out on the January the 3th for the Oculus link for Quest
Tuesday*
Oh? Idk. It's on the website already as buy now
Maybe it's a preorder
It says it's "coming soon"

I mean, unless you really jeed the extra length, a 10$ cable from Amazon is fine
Ah, on my screen it says buy now, but if i put it in my cart it says out of stock
I know there a cable for one but, i would rather get the Oculus link Online when it comes out.
bot
Don't accept friend requests from random greys
I would just block them
@keen patrol You have my attention since I usually accept all friends. Any reason I shouldn't? Security risk or anything like that?
Not really a security thing. I just wouldn't accept friend request from someone I've never talked to before. Them being a grey (visitor) is a bad flag as well because bot accounts will naturally usually not have much play time.
Why would you if they arent a friend?
For me it's simply that it has no down side. I accept all of them and no one stalks me or talks to me again. A lot easier than answering to why I didn't friend them.
Only ever had a few people stalk me down actually, but they usually don't talk, they just wave and keep watching from the distance. Lol
VRChat Stalker: The Movie
Hiii
Should i buy quest for vrchat? Will i not be able to see pc-only avatars? Do i need a separate headset for audio input/output?
do you have a PC with a nvidia 970 graphics card or better / equivalent amd, and a cpu from last 7 years ?
No i got a weak laptop
ok, then unless you get a good enough PC, you won't be able to see PC only avatars in their avatar form
that said--it shows a picture of their face and arms
so you can still interact with them
Oh like stickman? Or floating arms?
floaty arms sadly... but it's ok
Aw haha
a lot of people are polite and will switch to a quest compatible avatar if you are talking to them, in my experience
What about microphone? Do i need a separate hardware to not sound noisy?
it's still a good chunk of the irreplaceable experience that is social vr
not all worlds, some avatars are floaty arms but everything else from the experience is there
quest mic issues aren't a hardware problem - I think it is just a slow processor and sometimes gets choppy
Yes i feel like I’m missing out on a lot in desktop mode 😦
I hope it goes on sale soon
itll never go on sale
and it can be upgraded to a pc headset with virtual desktop or a link cable...
😦
rift cv1 never got discounted even up until EOL
on black friday, its the same price
but they give you a bundled game or an oculus store gift card
Ohh
so it's a good future proof entry level headset
I see, thank you 😊
rift s and quest are already incredibly low-priced, Oculus is barely making any profit on each unit
and they bank on software sales
yeah I wouldn't wait for a sale. if you want VR, cough up the money. quest is pretty good bang for buck wise, especially if you count not having to get a good PC
Ohh
why is vr chat not working with my mic
i ordered a quest last night
Where do I find friends
Wait am I able to talk?
@tidal cloud are you using the oculus quest or are you using a link cable with the PC?
I sort of typed in the wrong chatroom, I actually use windows MR as it was really cheap and has inside tracking. For £112 it's done me very well so far
some cheap headsets might not have headsets or mics....so you would need a headset
anyway yea let's move this over to #vrchat-general-2
You'll get use to it, it's the motion in VR.
It's important to grow VR legs
They'll make you superior in 2025 when VR/AR headsets become almost mandatory to daily life.
Can anyone help with installing sidequest?
@shy spear on quest, it's really fun to play by walking across your play area and rotating your ingame character (use the snap turning). Try to avoid ingame movement controls if you can
it's also a great way to get exercise, and you feel like you're walking across the world, rotating your room as you go within the virtual world
Just make sure you don't accidentally walk out your house and down the street
That's where the real Quest begins
I wish I had more room to wander when I play on the Quest.
hey uhmm, anyone got tips for stopping fog on the lenses of quest?
if you dont breathe heavily in there youll be good
a.k.a keep a window half open
thats what I do when playing beat saber, works great, who the fuck needs an AC when you got mother nature turning the entire street into a damn freezer.
hello
Yay, my Anker cable arrived so I can link! Boo, my antique gaming rig is SO not doing VR...
Nice
Oh well. Upgrade later...
Does anyone use virtual desktop
Yup
Is it easy
Yup
Oculus are money grabbing assholes so it's more complicated than it needs to be, but basically you sideload VD onto the headset, download VD Streamer onto your PC and that's basically it. It'll just handle the rest automatically. You need a solid and fast 5Ghz connection though.
I dont know what "money grabbing assholes" has to do with not allowing third party content officially to keep the ecosystem closed
Oculus does sell their stuff at reasonable prices at least, same for replacement parts.
You kinda answered in the second half of the first sentence there...
Keeping a ecosystem closed has way more reasons then that.
Actually, link doesn't cost you a penny either.
They could have sold it as an app if they wanted to.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I have a 5ghz extension
i have been getting random friend request from some people i don't know and it is a bit concerning because my friends on vrchat have told me that there have been some people with clients adding people for no reason and i don't know what to do
I haven't had any official confirmation, but I heard some of the random friend requests were people trying to DDOS the system.
That's bad
Wouldn't make any sense, so probably not true.
@empty salmon i have the rift s I accidentally wrote in this chat
Yall know how to prevent fogging
Clean the lens with your heated breath until it fogs, wipe it off with a lint free cloth and jump into the headset within the few seconds. Works 100% of the time for me.
Thanks
You're welcome, hope that works out for you
@quaint copper you're the biggest monkey in the jungle
I have a question
I’m a quest user and I imported some avatars to vrchat, but only other quest users can see me, how can I get pc users to see me as well?
@fleet cape Switch the Unity platform to Windows and upload again, it'll recompile it for PC.
Make sure to turn on the local cache first which will speed up any future changes or switches considerably.
@empty salmon
Damm I do that always thought am the only person tho lol
Sadly it looks a bit weird from other people perspective take a look walk toward a big mirror
But I use smooth turn maybe snap will fix the weird walking
I feel like all quest players should meet up on a very specific date
Maybe
yes, it isn't very hard
you add the vrc_station script to the part of the avatar you want to have the chair
I recommend also adding a mesh filter as well as it will give you more control of the highlight.
Hello
hi
Yo
yeah
Can quest users access the full Times Square rooms?
Nope
Sao Paolo is wrong right is Sao Paulo Vrchat
happy new year vrchat!
If I didnt been that busy I would have like to do a map for quest people. Sorry maybe next years
so do you mean 2020 or 2021
when the game allowed to use (oculus rift) is that mean all oculus like oculus rift S ...quest.. ?!
that's referring to the Oculus Rift & s as you need to go on the quest Oculus store to pick up vrchat on the quest
You mean If they say oculus rift then also I can use oculus rift S @jagged trench
Yes. They have the same controls
So the game depends on controllers @haughty coyote
Steamvr allows you to remap controllers if they don't support it properly. But rift and rift S are designed to be compatible with eachother for games
I’m very thankful to u guys u help me so much ..💕🍃🙌🏻
as a general rule
on PC, all PCVR content can be played on all PCVR headsets
The only exception to that is Windows Mixed Reality native content, but I can tell you nothing on there is worth anyone's time. Library is worse than the OUYA.
Thx💕💕 @azure mantle
every now and then when I'm playing vrchat it either gives me a black screen or it randomally sends me to my home world after playing for like 10 - 15 minutes
it even happens on the vrchat hub
I found the issue. It happens whenever someone tries to load a avatar.
Would anyone happen to know how to fix this issue?
game is laging
so as someone who's room is too small to get the oculus rift s and have room to play in, how has development on the quest been since launch? are more and more rooms and avatars cross platform by the day?
If you did get the Oculus Link for the Quest. You will pretty see almost all the maps and the pc avatars will appear as not robot's anymore
Just letting all the quest users know about it just in case if you didn't know
about it
Could you give me some pointers on where i could buy an oculus link? i'm assuming it links the quest to the pc
The Oculus Link is currently "coming soon"
i see, then im confused, why did you tell me about it?
because
i wanna be able to enjoy vrchat and other vr games, but if i buy the rift s my room would be too small to enjoy other games
Go to the Oculus Quest website and click the "Quest" After that there should be a icon called: "Accessories"
but it's still coming soon
I am not sure when it comes out
Have you seen a video people using the Oculus link with VrChat?
on youtube
the fact that it exists and it's gonna come out soon excites me though
cause vrchat is a game i can comfily play in my room anyway
and other games i've heard run really good on the quest
@latent drift You can use third party cables for it as well (just be sure that people say it works with Link), and for now the Link is in beta but people say it's working great so yeah
ugh
vrchat keeps sending me to the main hub world and its annoying
is there any fixes?
Reset the quest maybe
I tried that
I get my oculus quest tommorrow and I cant wait!
Does the microphone work on oculus link or not yet?
Does anyone know a website that I can download quest ready avatars off?
@latent drift the official link cable came out and is now backorder. Or maybe it haven't been released yet in your country. You can use a decent quality cable. Look for the Anker cable on Amazon. Take one that is usbC to standard USB and that have very high transfer data. There's a red one that is thick and works.
@haughty coyote not yet the latest version took the mic out. Need to use an external mic or something
This is sort of a quest question, can you export screenshots off the quest?
Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask
Yes, plug the quest into your computer using a usb c cable, and you can browse the files of the quest.
👍
Does VRChat on Quest just have issues
What kind of issues?
like randomly returning you to the VRChat hub during playing
and random black screens when joining worlds
and when you join a world the % gets to 100% then goes to 0.00% then makes you return to the main VRChat hub
@west bane
Those issues are on pc as well
ah
but they are easier to fix on PC
and its really annoying on Quest
because like 5 minutes into playing I get sent to the VRChat hub
anyone who I've talked to on the Quest says that they don't experience this issue
Randomly going home is a quest issue yes.
Be on a stable wifi connection (low interference, use 802.11ac) backed by good internet service. Avoid laggy worlds with too many people.
It's a bug but I think triggered by lag spikes
cant do anything about the wifi
but it's pretty stable
the worlds I join have like less than 10 people and I still get disconnected
do you think the bug will be fixed in the future?
Well you can get proper wifi gear. (especially if you don't have 5 GHz yet)
So yes you can do something about the wifi.
Sometimes switching channel might allready be enough.
I have 5GHz wifi
How far away? 5 GHz does not go well trough walls and objects
its downstairs :#
Yeah, that's suboptimal for 5 GHz
2.4 is typically heavily overcrowded
It has a higher reach so more people interfere with other people as ranges are longer. And the more limited bandwidths makes that issue really worse.
do you recommend sticking to the 5GHz or use the 2.4?
5 GHz
alright
is there anything I can do to try to solve the issue or do I just wait until they release a patch?
Cus it doesn't only have more bandwidth but also less interference cus your neighbors 2.4 will reach you the 5 not so you have it for you
Patches won't solve actual connectivity problems
You could just get a 5 GHz access point for your room
Nah. Many laptops / wifi users on PC also have that.
Get a 5 GHz access point and install it in your room
how would I do that?
You need a lan cable in the room.
Good
since the wifi doesn't seem to like my computer
You definitely want lan there
You can then get a switch
That can split one lan to many
So you can have the pc and a access point connected to it
what do you need for a access point though
so I just buy another router?
Depends on how good you know how to set them up.
I have no experience at all lol
Try looking up a video about access points to get an idea.
so the issue I'm having is a wifi problem? and the only way that it'll get fixed is if I get better wifi?
While improvements are always possible, you like will still get a better experience with a 5 GHz account point in the same room for the quest.
I think I may hold back on that option for now
as I don't think I'll get a lan outlet in my room for a while
I think it could be a vrchat problem though since this doesn't happen on any of the games I've tried that are online
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Vrchat uses quite a bit of bandwidth
ah
Depends, floors normally aren't an issue, it's walls that hurt.
I get 866Mb beaming to a room above here.
Hi
hello
What’s you user for vrchat
deino150
oh okay
hey
hi
do u have any game suggestions i should play?
I've been able to get 10 - 15 minutes of gameplay
hey peoples, I've been having a problem on vrchat where I'm playing on a world and then out of no where 5 mins or so in I get kicked out and get sent to my home world I play on Oculus Quest
Common issue. The official word is that it's your wifi dropping very briefly, but I had it happen all the time on a solid wifi connection. It's basically just buggy. I'd avoid manually showing any avatars if you're doing that at all.
is this a issue that can be fixed or anything in updates?
because it just sucks having convos with people then 5 minutes later I get kicked out and cant find that instance anymore
Honestly have no idea, it's been going on for ages.
darn
why am i in the floor on steam vr mode?
Oculus Link or ALVR/VirtualDesktop?
with ALVR/VirtualDesktop, you'll need to re-set your view height in SteamVR, right-click the status window and click "Run Room Setup"
ALVR?
im using riftcat...
think im swiching to ALVR ill come back if i still need help
thanks btw @azure mantle never would have known about it tell now
Virtual Desktop is easier to use than ALVR, but is paid. Worth considering if you want simplicity going forward (and doesn't require you to be at your PC to initiate the connection either).
Router should be ok as long as there are no stone/brick walls between you and it.
nah its like 6 or 3 feet from my pc
FYI for ALVR, you can set a static ip address in the router for specific devices so you don't need to always connect again to your quest from pc. If you have a decent router you most likely can do that. You'll still need to start the program at the very least.
Im so tired I thought it was MAC address instead of IP, big fukin meme https://raytracing-benchmarks.are-really.cool/763wcki.png
Shouldn't they be able to automatically identify the quest by device name on the network 
They should tbh
or even by MAC address since all Quests would start with the same manufacturer identifier
manufracture might yield who knows what future, but i guess you could ping the limited entries then still
Time to go implement that shit into V7 and be the hero nobody needs
While am at it, I'll put a touch of Invert Colors on the whole UI.
other alternative might be doing a "broadcast" containing the IP while in connection mode.
There is mutiple ways they could do auto discovery.
well, auto-discovery of a single, known device, really doesn't need a broadcast
Look, im just saying "there would be many ways to implement it, it's stupid not to be there" 
*
ikik, I was just adding on to that
Well that is something I'll look forward to to have less setup to do. Now alvr just needs to start in background asap your pc turns on. That's probably possible with if you manually setup it in windows but having that as an setting would be nice for cloud pc users
Also TripingPC, the place your screenshots are hosted on always puzzles me. It's pretty neat tho
ALVR is making steam VR thinks my qwest remotes are vive remotes
Not sure if it's an option, but VD is just so much better
cool i dont have 20usd
Im not entirely sure and I'm still a wee bit confused but downloading custom songs onto beat saber requires connecting the quest to a computer right?
I know about bmbf but rly I still have no idea what that is
And general help pointing me in the right direction would be apreciated
You should look up a beat saber community for that ideally.
This here is targeted to the Quest with VRChat like most of this Discord.
Aight
@quiet tusk https://bsmg.wiki has everything you need for beat saber modding. also what paul said.
Aight thx
U know i completely forgot this is a server about vrchat and not just vr in general
