Hoi
#quest-general
foggy quail
median vigil
there's a known issue they are fixing
crisp pike
hello
keen maple
u can get full body for oclus
azure mantle
Fullbody is technically impossible on Quest.
well, it would be possible with crazy custom workarounds which would need to be coded by the VRChat team themselves, but then that would probably get the game removed from the Quest store
TLDR: the oculus vr library unlike OpenVR, only expects Oculus' controllers and headsets, while OpenVR, as used in SteamVR on PC, is MADE to accept just about anything as an input provided you have a working driver.
keen maple
ive got the systm for it to work
livid aurora
hello fellow quest users
azure mantle
- beware of rule 15
- I've used it on Go, similar story, any questions you have?
livid aurora
nope
pallid venture
Lol yeah, my apologies, I didnt realize there was a Quest channel
Well, i got INTO Steam Vr, but only one handset works at a time, and no buttons will be mapped so i cant really do anything once im in there. I've re-installed everything 3 or 4 times to see if I was out of order (i was the first time) in the process. But always end up with the same results. when I switch hansets in steam vr, the other becomes stuck to my head, and steam says the one not in use has low battery emblem
azure mantle
oh god I don't know then
Buy VirtualDesktop and sideload the streaming portion of it
pallid venture
Lol, that's what I plan to do today, i just dread spending 20$, esp if i get the same results, but i do notice that Quest has a refund service if i dont use it for more than 2 hrs. so may be worth the try
azure mantle
VD streaming is very smooth
and was made for the Quest first
unlike ALVR which started out as a GearVR app
which only had one controller
with different inputs
which might explain part of your controller issues
pallid venture
Ah I see. Yeah, after hours of googling and youtube videos, it looks like VD caught up to all the others through improvements, so I have my fingers crossed. I appreciate the reassurance. I was about to sideload hair pulling lol
azure mantle
btw, don't sideload the streaming part until you've purchased, installed and launched VD at least once
nightmare stories of Oculus Runtime in a crashloop forever
pallid venture
yikes. Yeah, I read from the VD page to do that first, good to know there's a reason other than just dishing out money, lol. And sideloading the app from SideQuest absolutely works? (I hope I didnt make any nightmares from trying alvr so much lol)
azure mantle
it works just as you'd hope it for
and you also get the incredible feature of being able to use your fuckin desktop to launch SteamVR from within the headset.
pallid venture
That's what makes me most hopeful, it seems like VD handles the controllers moreso than steam itself at first.
azure mantle
it also properly passes them as touch controllers to SteamVR
pallid venture
amazing. also I'm guessing it's more like a fps running on steam, but is VRChat walking around controls in steam different than in VRChat installed on Quest itself? on the quest, it reminds me of a click and go adventure game like MYST used to be and its weird lol, and having to tap left or right on the thumbstick to turn is weird too, i notice i have to do that in 3 of the vr games i tried (I just got the Quest a few days ago to my surprise)
azure mantle
ah, if you dont get any motion sickness in VR
open settings, turn off holoport and comfort turning
theyre the baby training wheels and theyre fucking stupid
Thats valid for all versions of VRChat
pallid venture
ooohh. I'll give it a shot, if i do ill turn it back on lol. I cant imagine i would though. It makes gameplay a little tricky though
azure mantle
if I see you moving around in holoport (it's very noticeable), I'll point and laugh
pallid venture
bring it! lol. I've only done one thing that made my sense of balance questionable so far. being able to see the floor though around my nose kinda keeps me from feeling too immersed T_T I have a small head to the facepiece doesnt seal all the way around
hoping i can find a padding fix or something to fix or modify that
azure mantle
20 layers of electrical tape
or you could get a vrcover, I wonder if theres one for quest already
pallid venture
i just found a vid, seems there are as of June at least. I've never had a product so soon after release so it's interesting having to dig through all these time developments. Vr cover looks like it'll help just sitting on my head too. I'll have to put that on the list with prescription lenses, which i still feel a hard time believing i need since they're screens in front of me -.- cus im nearsighted
azure mantle
loool
I got lucky, I have terrible vision IRL, but everything is crystal clear in VR even at long distances
pallid venture
nice. of all the hype, i think i was expecting like, HD fine lines and all in vr, but to me it looks like staring up close to kind of like an old CRT or Plasma tv being able to see the pixels and all, depending on the text size, it's hard to read. i have dumbly not tried with my glasses on yet, but i assume its because of pixels
azure mantle
That's called the screendoor effect
pallid venture
ooohhhh, that's a clever name because it makes so much sense lol
do all vr headsets have that?
azure mantle
to an extent yes
pallid venture
I can imagine it would be a challenge to lower that with screens so close to the face, or at least super expensive
azure mantle
certain HMDs like Odyssey+, HP Reverb, or even the Index have it a lot less
because they use panels specifically made so the pixels are physically larger on the panel
pallid venture
ooooooh. completely different process than typical screens. the struggle.
lol, someone made a vid on fixing the light from around the nose issue, which was basically cut a sleep mask in half and strap around and I'm like.. "...your solution is an eyepatch. lol"
hearty zealot
pallid venture
@azure mantle how asleep r u? lol
lol, what did you do
guess tripings out, ill start and stop VD then sideload and keep my fingers crossed T_T
pallid venture
Yay so far so good! except for being able to create boundaries in steamvr
thorn turret
i could use a list with all the requirements for a quest avatar...and how to add the avatar as a quest.
vale saffron
to add the a quest avatar you need to switch your unity to android
thorn turret
no idea how to do that?
vale saffron
here hold on
thorn turret
i guess there should be a switch button on something
thorn turret
opening unity...
vale saffron
yeah
vale saffron
then do switch platform
thorn turret
if the avatar poly is limited to 10k....probably il give up
vale saffron
do you have blender with cats?
thorn turret
none helps
best way to reduce poly is to do it manualy..
but frist i need unity to switch it.
i hope i wont break my projects with this thing
vale saffron
it should be fine
thorn turret
ok got it working
i needs max 10k poly.
ok im done with doing avatars for quests...
@vale saffron thanks buddy
thorn turret
i have another version of her...taken from a game...
it has 5k poly..
now i need to gather the shaders witch is used by mobile.
it says something u can use the shaders from vrchat mobile
but dont know where that is
grizzled glen
Where you assign shaders to a material, pretty sure it's something like vrchat->mobile-> (anything in this folder)
thorn turret
aa
on the shader list probably
or not..
i think i used a shader from mobile.
and still i get the same message.
oh ok...got something working but it makes the avatar red
also the avatar needs to be rigged
haughty coyote
Oi
thorn turret
ohaio
haughty coyote
Hmmm
haughty coyote
anyone know how to use music on avatars? 
tawdry swift
Yes
haughty coyote
can u help me?
tawdry swift
What with?
haughty coyote
i see some people with avatars that have music and custom effects
and i dont know how i dot it / get it
some people make my screen have filters idk how
tawdry swift
Watch a tutorial
haughty coyote
hmm
quick drift
Quick question should I get a oculus quest and then sideload games on to it or should I just get myself a WMR cause that’s the best my pc can run
azure mantle
depends what you want to play, what your PC actually has for specs, and other shit
quick drift
Well mainly I wanna run vrchat(of course), beat saber and superhot and I have a standard gtx 1050, i5, 8gb ram so Incase that helps it would be much appreciated
hollow mason
A 1050 and i5 should be able to run it
For wmr
Vrchat is very easy to run on pc if you have less than 10 people around
If you have the budget for a quest, you might as well get the rift
Quest are good for people who don't want to spend the money to get a pc with a dedicated graphics card
quick drift
Okay Is it worth me getting a rift s or just stick to the regular rift
hollow mason
I am not familiar with the difference
quick drift
Me neither
hollow mason
Have you tried vr?
quick drift
No not before but I’m looking to get into it
hollow mason
Rift s is the newer one
quick drift
I just though it might have more benefits than the older rift
hollow mason
I don't think they will sell regular rifts, rift s was the replacement
There are small differences
But I am would still say rift s
Wmr is a step below and only if you want to pinch pennies
Quest is like buying a 3ds instead of an xbox
If you have the money, get a rift s
You will run every game fine except for vrchat lol
quick drift
What do you mean except for vrchat ?
hollow mason
Worse case you can always reduce the resolution of the screen to get more performance
quick drift
True that normally works in my case
hollow mason
Vrchat is a worst case scenario in terms of optimization
Because of custom stuff
I am leaving, hopefully this helps
quick drift
This has helped thanks I will get myself a rift s and then work on optimising it once I have it
pallid venture
gmonring
warm cedar
Hello, i have an avatar that i would like to use in VRChat, but because of rules i have to play for 40+ hours so i become "trusted". I want to know if there is an possibility that i can gain access for some minutes so i can ad the avatar to my account
After i changed accounts from Steam to VRChat i lost all my avatars, so i would love to have at least the one i struggled to make
grizzled glen
Look up merging accounts, should get you your favorites back and increase your trust rank
warm cedar
I tried, but that didn't work
tawdry swift
Simply play more then
west bane
How did you have avatars on a steam account?
grizzled glen
He probably means his favorites
warm crag
I’ve heard rumors about a potential update that allows quest users to select and show PC avatars
west bane
jagged trench
that is not going to happen as that is not possible in the software
warm crag
I see
jagged trench
as Android & PC different platforms so they do need to be uploaded twice to show up as their packaged differently inside Unity because they have completely different processor types and also that would probably fry the Oculus quest to render PC avatars as they can get quite often unoptimized
warm crag
Thanks for the clarification
jagged trench
the Avatar limits on Quest not just them being the fun police as you are essentially running stuff on a Android phone as far as power
warm crag
Yeah, would it be tough to have a Phoenix Wright Avatar modeled for Quest?
jagged trench
no that should be perfectly doable as his cartoony art style should show up just fine as he's not hyper realistic or doing complicated Shader work
warm crag
Oh cool, if only I knew how to make avatars tho lol
jagged trench
well if you did want to try it's helpful that you have some idea of what you would be wanting to make
ocean spire
i haven't get a message from vr chat so i can use skins
pallid venture
that quest update to see pc avatars sounds awesome. wish i could log into my steamvrchat from quest without the desktop.
woeful cypress
what exactly do you mean?
tawdry wyvern
There sound on quest av now?
pallid venture
i dunno, someone mentioned it earlier
azure mantle
That dont exist
it never will
seeing PC avatars on Quest, is on a technical level, impossible.
jagged trench
PC and Quest use fundamentally different processors as PC uses a x86 CPU where the Oculus Quest is pretty much just an Android phone in a different shape uses an arm processor
jagged trench
good to know
okay so the reasoning pretty much the same they don't speak the same language
azure mantle
I mean yea
jagged trench
which is why you have to upload the two different build of your world/Avatar so that they're compiled in the right language
tawdry swift
They could probably do some real time conversion but given how long it takes for unity to switch from android to pc that's not viable at all
That's be a brute force method
haughty coyote
Im kinda confused. Are particle systems allowed on quest avatars or not?
I was trying to make a half decent flaming helmet for a halo 3 avatar for my halo quest world and they just wont show up.
I added two particle systems to the head. They both show up in both the avatar preformance checks but nothing shows up. I taken it is filtering out the shader im using, which is the Mobile/Particle Additive shader provided by vrchat
grizzled glen
If its a direct child of your head it should be scaled to 0. Can other people see the particles?
brave steppe
others should be able to, you cant see them because as you said the head is scaled to 0 locally
haughty coyote
I know about the head parenting, but no one else can see it
Ill have to try again, maybe some faulty sdk nonesense
lunar herald
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hearty spade
I just got a quest and started playing vrchat, but what I’ve found that annoys me most is how all the pc users appear just as simple bot avatars... is there such a thing as quest exclusive worlds?
azure mantle
What you do, is get your foot down
and tell those mean mean PC users, to "GET A FUCKING CROSS-PLATFORM AVATAR YA DUMB TWAT"
if you stay polite like that
I'm sure they'll comply, then you can all hang out and have fun
tacit ibex
Making a quest compatible avatar is so hard.
tawdry wyvern
Nah
jagged trench
that just requires you to have more skill than use the decimate button in blender
vernal moon
What are the requirements of all the levelups in the game? user, trusted ect.
haughty coyote
secret sauce, a lot of stuff being weighed supposedly
making friends, worldhopping and publishing public things really helps
wary hawk
steel bear
@hearty spade best place to find quest users is the pug West. We all hang around there 😃
tacit ibex
I can vouch for that, that’s where I went to try and find a Quest user to test my avatar
hearty spade
Oh cool! @steel bear what is the pug west?
steel bear
It’s a world within vrchat. Depending on your time zone I would say people start hanging out there from now. 😃
vernal moon
Can someone tell me how good VR actually is? I want to try before I buy but I don’t think I will get that opportunity bc I don’t know anyone with one or any convention that will have one on display.
How immersive is it and is it realistic, as in can you always tell your in a game and have a headset on.
warm crag
It’s pretty good
plain flower
@vernal moon are you in the US? you can try vr at bestbuy or microsoft store
if not then take my word for it, you wont be prepared for how immersive it is
vernal moon
No i am in new zealand
I really am exited for one day being able to get some VR stuff
I have got my eye on the Rift S but im only 16 and no one is employing me, but one day... i will get it
tawdry swift
It depends on per person, but if it wasnt immersive would people use it as much as they do
frigid kestrel
I have been having such a hard time finding any good groups of people lately and so many I'm coming across are just shitty people who complain and belittle constantly. Or find some terribly sick conversations that I need to just leave. Makes me not really want to play anymore.
tawdry swift
Thats unfortunate, finding good people is hit or miss
vernal moon
yea, i can usally find 1 good group a day
heavy hollow
I guess i never miss huh
tawdry swift
I only really run into good people
vernal moon
Hey can you get full body tracking with either the quest or rift s? I’m guessing not
haughty coyote
You can with the rift S, or any headset that runs though steamvr. (Even the quest if you run it through steamvr through streaming), but not on the quest normally through the Oculus client
vernal moon
ohh cool, I thought you needed seperate trackers
that would require external sensors
woeful cypress
You need a hip tracker
vernal moon
ohh
vernal moon
and 2 base stations
woeful cypress
Yes.
vernal moon
Ok
dull haven
Anyone willing to help with an avatar message me don’t have a pc atm.
onyx sandal
Hiya peeps. So I haven’t played VRChat since the Quest version was nerfed a month or so ago. I’m thinking about coming back, but I have a few questions.
- Are we still limited to under 10k avatar poly counts?
- How has the Quest community evolved over the last month or so? (Are there more of us in game than before, around the same, or less?)
- Do media players work for us yet? Such as the TVs in certain worlds.
I would appreciate any info 😃
tawdry swift
Yes and no, they are off by default but you can show them iirc
Not much, some of you guys understand how the game works now
No, they dont even work for pc users half the time
@onyx sandal
onyx sandal
Thank you for update @tawdry swift I appreciate it.
tawdry swift
:)
warm crag
Why
brave steppe
ummmmmm
thats not allowed here
i would advise in removing that image
@haughty coyote
warm crag
Yes
tawdry swift
@ chat mod boobies
brave steppe
ah finally got deleted
haughty coyote
true ridge
sad
peak pulsar
Hey
Quest user here! ❤ Im thai, living in england
@onyx sandal there is a wierd work around, because i saw a quest user with a 40k poly avatar
i didnt really understand how but it happened.
also i saw another with a 64 poly avatar but it looked literally WAYYYY too detailed for only 64...
both came from the same maker i think... so im not sure what they are doing but they make avatars overkill for the quest. It doesnt seem to affect the quest's running speed or anything tho
tawdry swift
It does impact speed
haughty coyote
Anyone rp?
tawdry swift
Many
fallow tartan
Eek
coral talon
hi
coral pier
@here how do I use the mic if I do not have one in VR chat please explain simpled and detailed PLEASE
frozen inlet
if you dont have a mic to pick up your voice you cant exactly talk to ther people
so whats the point of trying to use voice chat if other people cant hear you?
brave steppe
@coral pier doesn't the quest have a built in mic tho? 
tawdry swift
Simpled and detailed
steel bear
Quest had an inbuilt mic. Have to change game setting to mic on.
Quest community is still strong easily about 50 people I hang around with over the day with quest. They haven’t implemented that yet but you have to press show avatar anything over poor performance hope this helps @onyx sandal plus there’s more worlds!
barren mirage
Quest content gets added every day. I spend most of my time with other questers despite being on pc.
restive bone
@barren mirage what do you find to be a good stable player count for a world for Quest?
peak pulsar
10-15
Ik ur not asking me but thats what i find alright before i start lagging a little
^And thats 10-15 unskinned players.
barren mirage
15 is ok. Remember that one quest user with 20k poly and ! material is better than 5 with 5k and 3.
especially if the bone count is the same.
"optimization" is one of the most complex things you can do in a video game.
restive bone
Oh I know.
Was just curious from the POV of someone spending a lot of time in worlds with others
barren mirage
15 would be fine, 8 is a bit low
restive bone
Don't you have people joining on friends though?
barren mirage
like, 8 full on avatared quest users is getting crazy, but 2 quest users and a ton of robots is nbd
restive bone
I am not optimizing for robots 😦
barren mirage
which is usually how it is
the good thing is you don't have to, that's what I mean
barren mirage
The people I've been with haven't had issues with 10-15 people and most of them are way less optimized, though my main avatar right now is 3k
the occlusion culling and foviated rendering of the quest helps a ton, because you're only usually looking at a few users at a time
@restive bone , a world like yours with lots of corners runs really well thanks to that
it's like super sekret optimization tricks by introducing practical barriers between users
tawdry swift
Level design plays into optimisation in most games, shame for the Junkyard i wasnt even aware or planning for the quest, it just kinda fit and runs pretty ok anyway
jagged trench
yep video games tend to cut down on line of sight if they can help it so you're not having to render everything at once
peak pulsar
Does anyone know the use Tarheels4life99?
Idk if they have discord or not im trying to find them
tawdry swift
You can add them in game without them being online by searching for them
peak pulsar
ok nvm i got a hold of him
night marsh
foggy quail
Nya
elder folio
Is the Quest good? i tried to get one and they are sold out everywhere
long elk
@elder folio
i don't have quest myself however i can say it has a lot of limitations in regards to what shaders can be used and or what shaders it will allow to be rendered .. i think its more about what's your budget and are you ok with the limitations it comes with.. if you have a system and a budget that could handle higher end you may wish to look into them rather
long elk
i am currently using Vive HTC ,, just be warned about the limitations that come with Quest .. as far as assets to support Quest its very hard for DEVs to develop due to the technical restrictions also .. perhaps it comes down to your budget in the end .. many DEVs are trying but progress is slow due to compatibility making games play on one or the other and is the DEV willing to find middle ground
azure mantle
why do you write DEV in caps all the time, they're devs, not DEVs.
dev is short for developer, not Double Experience Vitrial
livid rampart
wha
tawdry swift
@livid rampart You can comission worlds yes.
But be prepared as they can get expensive especially if you are interested in getting one modelled and made from scratch
livid rampart
i assumed that, i was just curious aha
toxic sable
Speaking of commission worlds, I've seen some in the range of 600 to 1200 bucks.
I'm in the wrong field of work. : D
tawdry swift
You say that like it's easy /consistent money
Shits hard and there's a reason it's expensive
jagged trench
it's a lot of work to make a world from scratch
like a several-month project depending on the complexity
especially if you don't have initial concept artwork to work with as you would also be paying them for the initial designing phase
long elk
lol
haughty coyote
Is there a way were i can watch videos in vrchat
plain flower
@haughty coyote find a world with a video player. sleep worlds are very popular with that sort of thing, followed by a number of aesthetic worlds and then a handful of avatar worlds
if youtube and vrchat arent having relationship issues again, you should be able to just paste in some links and watch whatever you want so long as its on youtube and not a livestream.
tawdry swift
I don't know if they work on quest
plain flower
yeah i was gonna say that before getting distacted by avatar
tawdry swift
Assuming this is a quest question since it's in #quest-general
plain flower
you can always cheat and bring up oculus dash in vrc lol
does quest have a youtube app? im assuming it does, or at least a browser to use
haughty coyote
@plain flower yes youtube is a app on the quest
shadow ermine
hey
jaunty cliff
It would appear my avatar is appearing as a robot for everyone. I thought if I can use it on my quest and see it. Everything would be fine but I found out not even PC players can actually see me. Did I do something wrong with the avatar?
tawdry swift
You need to also upload it for PC players
you can switch your unity to build for PC @jaunty cliff
tawdry swift
You dont do both at the same time
The way you uploaded your quest avatar, do the same thing except switch unity to build for PC
instead of android
jaunty cliff
Ok i'll try that
jaunty cliff
Oh Unity shows 1 avatar after I uploaded both. Must mean it worked. I'm gonna check in VRchat to see the result
shadow ermine
hi
jaunty cliff
@tawdry swift it worked thanks
tawdry swift
np 😄
shadow ermine
y
delicate sky
thanos
bitter basin
How to fly?
woeful cypress
Colliders, but I doubt that they work on quest.
bitter basin
@woeful cypress I can't control my avatar when I jump
woeful cypress
as i said, you need a specific collider on the avatars to fly, and i dont think these are even working on quest.
jaunty cliff
Colliders like Dynamic Bones aren't supported on Quest
woeful cypress
It's not DB colliders
jaunty cliff
Well I guess I also doubt they might work.
blissful flare
loli police!!
heavy hollow
bitter basin
......？
warm crag
Yes
brave steppe
@bitter basin "specific colliders" are box colliders placed at the 0 0 0 position on the avatar (bottom face of the player capsule)
final grove
@haughty coyote hey
lime shard
ruby kindle
azure mantle
@lime shard can you try right-clicking it in the sidebar and clicking mark as read? otherwise, get into the channel, press ctrl-shift-f to fullscreen, scroll around and click the load more messages button till it comes back, then ctrl-shift-f again out of fullscreen.
shadow ermine
hi
wide stone
can someone help me find what i need to create avatars
tawdry swift
I can't point you to a useful website for avatars
kindred crag
What
tawdry swift
Did you say the cursed site
kindred crag
Are we not supposed to say it for some reason?
tawdry swift
Hosts stolen content
kindred crag
Oh
tawdry swift
Piracy ect
kindred crag
Well its still useful
gaunt flume
@kindred crag hmm
barren mirage
I recommend booth.pm @wide stone
there are plenty of cc by models there
that are legal and free to do whatever you want with
commercial or not
@livid rampart here
livid rampart
barren mirage
It has nothing to do with your local connection
that's fine, little slow, but fine
it won't affect ALVR streaming from your pc to a quest
livid rampart
this is what i got with my i pad outside our apartment
barren mirage
let me explain: what ALVR does is take PC vr
livid rampart
o-kay
barren mirage
and turns your quest into a steamVR compatable headset
you can use this to play PC vrchat
woeful cypress
thats not the point of the quest tho
barren mirage
now, it really depends on how good the 5g in your router is most of all.
woeful cypress
5ghz wireless
livid rampart
i have no idea what any of that means
barren mirage
as to how well this will work, in addition how good the video ENCODER you choose on yoru computer is, and 5ghz N band wireless or wirless AX, yes.
it a little complicated. Either way, the "pure" vrchat experience on a quest is also pretty darned good!
so if that's way over your head don't worry about it
many of us are dedicated to making quest compatible content and you'll have a ton to do and see
livid rampart
we have this in our corridor
and this in our living room
i have know idea what exactly they are
i mean i know the first is our router
the second just plugs in and speeds up our wifi
i probably sound stupid but i dont know what it is 😂
barren mirage
oh neat. Basically it means you could have a strong signal to the 5ghz wifi service at your house
livid rampart
wha-
barren mirage
with a pc on the same network you could try to follow a tutorial on how to get PC vr on your qust, so that it behaves like a rift S
but if you're not comfortable with any of that (and you DO need a decent gaming pc) don't worry about it
vrchat works great on quest as it is
barren mirage
that's not as important, you'll be fine in vrchat
woeful cypress
You make it sound like "this is what you should do".
barren mirage
it isn't
woeful cypress
I'd just not bring up thing like that at all un less specifically asked for.
barren mirage
I do not suggest doing ALVR sidequest streaming but they brought it up first
I mentioned I have done this
woeful cypress
it's just confusing those who dont know what's it actually about ^^
woeful cypress
i see
barren mirage
here's a video on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpeoim4EHHo here's a video on the topic so y
woeful cypress
Just to mention it again, you do not need to do anything like that. You can just play vrchat on your quest like normal 
barren mirage
if you're interested. It works decently and can overcome some of the limitations of the quest if you're technically inclined
but yes, VRChat on the quest is super great as it is
livid rampart
im a girl-
livid rampart
haha dont worry
also ill consider it for maybe next year
but it all sounds really complicated 😂
barren mirage
it's actually been made fairly easy by the folks there but it's not something you should do unless you're a pretty technical person
The quest is a really amazing device. VR is still taking baby steps so all of these devices have "tricks" for developers like me so that you can make your own games
basically they leave them wide open so you can create your own applications.
and that allows for some pretty amazing things, like fooling SteamVR into treating your oculus quest as a full on PC VR headset, lol
but even without a pc, the quest ALLL by itself is a wonderful experence
stark saffron
im going to use this "im a girl" argument now, even though im not. Seems great for getting out of arguments lol
tawdry swift
That's nott he context in which she said I'm a girl for but sure dude you do you
stark saffron
I know, just seems like great excuse lol xD
tawdry swift
no
stark saffron
ah thats downer talk, im making a joke and your just bein a butt
tawdry swift
no
wide cobalt
yo
fading walrus
What's the difference between the Quest and Vive?
other than the wireless/quest being it's own console thing
thinking about the comfort, the quality, performance, tracking, etc, which would y'all prefer?
pseudo token
Comfort isn't quest's strongest point. Tracking is fine as long as you keep your hands in front or sides of you. So you cant put hand behind head and expect more than a pair of floating and rotating hand until headset sees them. Better resolution and pixels are way less noticeable on quest.
undone lake
Turns out VRChat is looking into letting Quest users see PC avatars. (According to their latest dev stream)
wind violet
Yeah that's excellent news, I hope that we can see more about that feature in the near future.
obsidian dust
If that's true then I might eventially get a Quest then but I find it hard to believe.
They'll need to do some automatic reduction of polys or something.
mental ivy
sup
haughty coyote
i need money for the quest...how do i get easy money??
tawdry swift
Get a job
obsidian dust
Or save, don't eat out. Etc.
lilac rampart
If quest users can see pc avatars does that mean we could also use the pc avatars?
jaunty cliff
I would think so. But maybe no
haughty coyote
im too young to get a job......
woeful cypress
Never to young to do mini jobs like lawn mowing and such
And there isn't really an alternative to getting money.
Selling old stuff of yours that you don't need anymore could also be a thing.
@obsidian dust not eating is not a solution 
obsidian dust
@woeful cypress I didn't say don't eat. Don't eat out. Saves you lots of money.
woeful cypress
Oh... Well. I don't think someone short of money does that anyway 
obsidian dust
Yes it's crazy expensive. I save so much just eating at home.
woeful cypress
That's... Why you only do it for good reasons, not regular.
pseudo token
If optimizing for quest was just few clicks and no setup of second project it'd help a lot I'm sure. Ik cat plugin exists. It's not really that simple even with it either, you can run into problems because 3d models can vary a lot, unless you do a quick dirty quest version.
jagged trench
that is functionally impossible to make a optimized for mobile button
as video game developers would be using that all the time if it existed
haughty coyote
I can't see other avatars it's annoying
silk basin
Hello
dim cosmos
tawdry swift
Its a vr HMD
haughty coyote
The Oculus Quest is a stand alone VR headset and Controllers that doesn't require a PC. VRChat has a version of the game optimized to run on the quest
haughty coyote
oof
haughty coyote
VRChat keeps crashing and it’s getting on my nerves. I can’t get to other worlds without it sending back home 😃
jaunty cliff
That's a mood
barren mirage
@haughty coyote have you tried fully uninstalling vrchat and grabbing it again?
that sometimes helps
@haughty coyote that is a common complaint. They're working on solutions for that now and have some ideas. Many people don't know there are lots of users on quest, sometimes if you tell them they'll switch into a cross platform avatar. I personally don't make PC only avatars anymore, everything I do is cross platform, so you'll always see me
I try to encourage others to do the same.
haughty coyote
I have a question, is it possible for PC person to steal an avatar from a person on quest? Someone came to me today saying that they was on private but a PC person was able to take it. I know that it's common with VRC on pc but I was also told by someone that can look at IP addresses that they can't see the IP of the quest (maybe that has nothing to do with it I wouldn't know.). (Post this here as well)
tawdry swift
Its possible for anyone to take anything if they try hard enough
haughty coyote
@tawdry swift lol very true but this is the first I've heard about it for a quest person
tawdry swift
Its also highly likely that the quest user just wasnt using a private avatar
and the clone public avatar button is buggy, so some might be able to take, some might not.
jagged trench
and if you had a personalized Avatar I don't see why someone would want to steal it as people only seem to care about IP and Anime avatars
haughty coyote
@tawdry swift Yeah I really just think this person left his cloning on by accident, I asked him does he know the person name and even reported the person they said yes but I asked for the name and poof nothing lol.
tawdry swift
@jagged trench People like to get a reaction from taking personal stuff
Just dont give a reaction and move on and theyll move on
jagged trench
which makes sense as There's no practical value for someone stealing some random personal Avatar
tawdry swift
Practically it can be resold if its a high quality comission
ripped apart to make a kitbash
haughty coyote
@jagged trench I've only been on quest so far so I really wouldn't know and since I make them with no dynamic bones or anything that is for pc wise, idky would a pc want it lol. So far I either get targeted maybe once in a while from a PC person trying to get a rise out of me because the way I talk or because I own a quest and met maybe like 2 people that tried to look at my IP or tried to force kick (no reason they're just like that) me but couldn't.
azure mantle
their brains go "xd, if I kick all quest users out, then no people on quest will play muh vrchat, and the devs will cancel that version and focus on PC!! xdlel le mao"
meanwhile in unity cross-platform development land
"wow, maintaining two completely different architectures isn't that hard once you get the hang of it. and the quest pushes us to optimize even more our game which is already the most optimized of all!"
jagged trench
yep
it's not like 3d games don't already contain several different level of distance models a good chunk of the time unless very simplistic art style or a top-down game where the camera is always the same distance
lilac rampart
will quest be able to use dynamic bone soon? im trying to make some flowy anime hair
woeful cypress
DB's are one of the major performance impactors currently and i doubt that it will come, and if it does then likely not soon.
plain flower
alternatives include clever idle animations, clever weight painting, or both @lilac rampart
lilac rampart
ty solar : ) @plain flower
plain flower
np~
haughty coyote
Just ask ^^
tawdry swift
Yea, you
How about instead of finding someone to corroborate, you just state the issue
Cut the middle man you know?
A vrchat account? Oculus?
lilac moth
Hi
haughty coyote
Can someone help make a model from scratch I’d be willing to pay
fickle spear
anyone?
tawdry swift
👋
spice sinew
@haughty coyote best place look is in #community-servers-old and a server called VRC Traders
haughty coyote
Anyone know any small time game devs? Need for a thing
tawdry swift
👋
nimble karma
someone can send a link for Vrchat?
tawdry swift
nimble karma
THANKS
warm cedar
Who do i contact if i want to report players?
tawdry swift
warm cedar
ty
faint pendant
:o
placid wolf
uwu
pine bay
I’m sad that we can’t see most people’s avatars ;((
plain flower
fear not, this may change within the next few updates
fierce jolt
I was really sad about it too, I really hope it does change in the next few updates
haughty coyote
its good but i think something broke bcs sometimes cant use menu
barren mirage
@pine bay please tell people you can't see their avatars when you can't
many pc players simply don't realize it
making a quest compatable avatar and world is much less difficult than most people realize
and even a cardboard cutout would be better than nothing
plain flower
?
cold aurora
don't get me mad
plain flower
not trying to, just wonderin what ur talking about 0 0
cold aurora
😠
haughty coyote
My menu is mess up win im with people but when I'm by myself it works perfect
steel bear
Yeah are you having the same issue you can get your menu up but then can’t click anything?
haughty coyote
Ya its like its trying to click on some else
steel bear
Have you had the ping go crazy too?
steel bear
Who do we tell to make it known to them?
dark veldt
steel bear
Oh I didn’t get a 2nd announcement . It’s on there
haughty coyote
Yep
pine bay
@barren mirage ok it’s very annoying as most of the avatars are just robots with t-shirts on
pine bay
Can you equip stuff that is for the avatar if that makes sense
wind pine
yes
eager karma
I got a question to the devs of vrchat how to handle vr-coding for unity and the use of the addons for unity. But I’m clueless who to ask 
tawdry swift
VRChat doesnt allow any programming whatsoever.
zealous grove
V
barren mirage
@tawdry swift not explicitly true, you can code compute shaders
tawdry swift
You know what i meant though
barren mirage
ya
haughty coyote
Hey I have a bug where only one of my hands will climb. And I can switch between hands but it only allows one to work
fringe grotto
how do I disable shaders so that it can be quest compatable
hybrid rapids
hello am looking for some support on how to use my oculust rift in rv chat
woeful cypress
this is the channel for quest, not the right place.
haughty coyote
Guys who has quest with modded beatsaber here?
tawdry swift
Wrong server
weary wind
if anyone on quest would like to help me find out what works and dose not work for you DM me Im on the hunt to find out what else Quest limits are.
mint steeple
Have you guys been crashing constantly too?
dull haven
Anyone familiar with quest avatars needing some help?
jagged trench
meaning you need help from someone familiar with Quest avatars or inquiring if someone familiar with Quest avatars need some help
steel bear
Yeah since the new update. I’m getting the freeze of people but can hear them talk and a lot of black screens. 😦
haughty coyote
Same
By the way what is the blue envelope next to my speak button
Is that an invite,
tawdry swift
That is an invite, yes.
haughty coyote
Yeah I figured it out
tawdry swift
You're welcome.
haughty coyote
The game is slacking on the quest
tawdry swift
Only so much content you can get on a mobile device
somber peak
It feels like even among Quest users I'm just seeing robots now. I think VRChat has to be more strict about avatar performance.
obsidian dust
That's why I am not getting a quest. They need to find some way of letting quest users see everyone even pc users.
somber peak
no, that's not the issue here
obsidian dust
I know it's not but I'm adding to it.
somber peak
I just think VRChat needs to be more strict here.
obsidian dust
Like even if this issue in the photo is fixed there's still the pc issue.
somber peak
This isn't a good situation where even Quest users are wearing Very Poor avatars
It's frustrating how little people care about performance
I feel like I should write a canny post about this.
tacit maple
i don't understand why there is not a force show button when you click on people
somber peak
I think if you give users the opportunity to be lazy and not optimize, they'll not optimize
tacit maple
what?
somber peak
vrchat tries to discourage it by blocking very poor stuff by default, but its not enough
tacit maple
well mabye if they fixed their ranking system then that should not happen
my buddy has an avatar that is very poor because it has 2 lights
somber peak
well, the opportunity thing, yeah.
tacit maple
i know you
somber peak
recognize my duck?
tacit maple
yea i saw you in neos
somber peak
and also, just a note, 2 lights ARE unoptimized
tacit maple
for quest?
somber peak
Expecially on Quest, but also on PC
tacit maple
i don't see how tho
somber peak
VRChat uses forward rendering, so any object a light gets hit by has another draw call added to it.
and if you have a complicated world with a lot of materials? 2 lights triples the draw calls
really depends on what the light hits, but in most uses for a light, its going to be unoptimized.
it's one of the worst things you can add to an avatar, performance wise.
tacit maple
hm i guess i was in low population worlds then because when she turns one light on her gun it does not seem to affect me (do not know what the otehr light is)
somber peak
here's the philosophy of the performance rank system
will one light in a simple room actually affect anyone on PC? No.
If EVERYONE had a light on their avatar? 30 people with lights? thats however many the draw calls x30
tacit maple
so you are saying om focusing too much on if there was just one avatar and that is it
somber peak
yeah. im pretty sure vrchat looks at things as if "well, what if everyone used this?"
performance would tank hardcore if everyone had a light on
and depending on the situation, 2-3 lights can tank people with lower end systems
in more detailed worlds surrounded by avatars that have a ton of materials, 1000 draw calls can turn into quite a lot if you add lights.
tacit maple
i see now i know why
somber peak
basically, one "Very Poor" avatar in a room full of Good to Medium avatars isn't really going to affect performance. A room full of Very Poor avatars can though.
tacit maple
most avatars i see personally are either very poor,poor, or below medium cus they are quest users
but yea a lot of people do not care about avatar performance as long as they can see themselves in mirrors and see their friends in mirrors they won't care (well after the quest 2% more of vrchat's population started to make optimized avatars)
tacit maple
yea i do not understand very poor avatars that is just a model and that is it. for me the only reason why i can accept an avatar to be very poor is if they are making like a video game character with weapons or something
somber peak
even then, its very possible to keep that optimized
did you know that the overwatch characters without their weapons are around 30k polygons? and they look incredible.
tacit maple
well for me when i make those i want to make it as best looking as possible. (mainly use them in friend worlds) and if i see a quest user i try to use quest avatars so they can see me (also yea i know)
somber peak
70k isn't needed to make decent avatars
you can do a smooth looking avatar with weapons and have it be 50k
tacit maple
Chris you know what that reminds me of. Video game developers
in the past they would use tricks to make the game run and look good off of limited hardware. but too bad its not a thing anymore
somber peak
its always a thing, thats a never-ending struggle for game devs
the tricks are getting more and more fancy, more and more complicated
tacit maple
and take up more of your storage space
i think why most people don't optimize is that people do not optimize avatars because most will not have quest friends so they feel like it would waste time on optimizing that avatar.
plain flower
people just dont optimize in general because they either dont know how or dont want to
pseudo token
For a completely new creator it's such a huge work and tons of learning. I remember how much work I had to do to get a avatar working for first time. There is a point where you just want to upload it and not stay stuck on the little details that stack to worse performance.
livid matrix
People are also lazy
tacit maple
Mcmannere is 100% true because most trusted users have very poor avatars that are just mmd models
pseudo token
Yeah and I haven't even seen anyone besides me putting a weapon on quest avatar. Combine weapon to main mesh and scale it to 0. Blend shape makes it appear.
livid matrix
Literally all of my Quest avatars do that
tacit maple
oh yea for quest cant you only have 1 material or something
livid matrix
You can have up to 4
I don't know if you're allowed to post pictures here, but https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*svL7xSownbQuWLzu3NTXMg.png
plain flower
to be fair, not optimizing is somewhat acceptable as long as you're not trying to make a bloated 700tri piece of shit. the existing perf block system imo is a compromise between people who want frames and people who dont have all the time in the world to learn best practice / aren't the best at creation but want their avatars in the game
it's when you try to upload anything beyond medium as a public avatar that it starts to become a problem
tacit maple
same
woeful cypress
not optimizing is not acceptable.
everyone should do their best they can.
jagged trench
personally I would say that depends on why it's regular poor
pseudo token
The polygon limit can be tight
tacit maple
well also like i said i only accept your avatar being very poor like if you are trying to make the best looking avatar possible with lots of animations and stuff (in a private world)
jagged trench
no not really if you know what you're doing most folks just run into issues because they're using the decimate button on offline rendering models
pseudo token
Oh right I cant even use quads but if you can, it's much easier to do.
jagged trench
yes quads are much easier to work with
tacit maple
all of my avatars are under 30K
jagged trench
good for you Crodojoe
good that your avatars on the range of what's actually sensible for a video game
tacit maple
yea thanks and even if i do not try i still get under 30k lol
jagged trench
glad you care about not wanting to make people vomit
violet lodge
Hmm <@&397642795457970181> the above person is linking to a grabify adress to grab peoples ip's might wanna remove that
near pine
It's been taken care of.
violet lodge
👌
haughty coyote
So uhh I was wondering
Can I pay someone if they can make me a custom avatar?
I’m actually trying to get myself a Stitch avatar
tawdry swift
Yes go to #community-servers-old and join VRCTraders
steel bear
There’s a none custom in tusunas world I think. 😃
haughty coyote
Thanks
gleaming narwhal
can anyone on quest please go to this world and take pictures how it looks? Im trying to fix the harsh black shadows that was in the world https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_ec9dea30-d797-4208-b229-861efc93067d I don't have a quest of my own thanks.
haughty coyote
I will!
frail turret
blazing roost
what is the best way to find other quest users that are playing vrchat? i only find pc players in almost ever cross platform world
woeful cypress
well, quest only instances
tawdry swift
Why do you want specifically quest users
latent crow
New to Quest! What are some other ways to see other users avaters on Quest? Not really a fan of PC Vr if I cant use my headset, unless there's a way to link them together?
woeful cypress
you can only see quest ready avatars
some have over the default limits onces you need tom anually show
but else there is nothing you can do
latent crow
oh wow, thank you!
steel bear
The pub west is the best place to find people. In about 4 hours from now tends to be full of us 🙂
round kestrel
update time
haughty coyote
oof
haughty coyote
@steel bear I usually go to Cards against Humanity to find friendos 
@latent crow You can't see avatars of the robots that have the word PC or an image on them. You can actually see avatars that say something among the lines of "perf block" or whatever. Just click their name and click show avatar.
vernal frigate
can someone tell me how to downloed vrchat on laptop plz~~
oh yeah btw im new here nice to meet you alls😊💕
cunning lagoon
Does anyone know where I can find Upseg puck cat avatar to download I'm trying to customize it.
haughty coyote
I found a really cool avatar only to be kicked for using it because all of its performance things are like 5-10 times higher than max
so upset
heavy hollow
haughty coyote
brave steppe
Use that avatar as inspiration, make your own avatar after it,
optimize it, proffit
tawdry swift
Perhaps change avatar next time to prevent this
prisma remnant
I'm too stupid to create an avi.
┐(‘～`；)┌ I know exactly zero about coding lol
tawdry swift
You don't need to code anything to make an avatar
There are lots of tutorials for it and it's all rather simple
prisma remnant
Hmmm. I might give it a try, eventually
tawdry swift
Take the plunge sooner than later and you won't regret it
jagged trench
a penguin and a top hat doesn't seem like a bad first project as there's plenty of penguins and top-hats lying around TheMadPenguin
might work better since it's already rigged
regal niche
tawdry swift
Occasional penguin
prisma remnant
(▰˘◡˘▰) Okay! I'll give it a go!
pulsar heron
Vard approves!:)
warm crag
Vard the God of Death
viscid pagoda
anyone want to test a world on quest? Made "bucket's avatars" quest friendly but can't test it
haughty coyote
I'll test it tonight!
haughty coyote
@viscid pagoda I tested it. Not bad at all. When going up the left brick stair case there are some bricks that are open and when you jump on them it gets them stuck
viscid pagoda
ah ok, same issue probably on desktop. so long as the fps is fine. had a very specific mesh collider issue on a certain system in a past map so wasn't sure if there were quest specific bugs, thanks
haughty coyote
Are you gonna add avatars to it?
eager pebble
So can any quest user tell me if quest supports custom animations and sounds from avatars that are made for quest? i checked youtube and don't see any.
viscid pagoda
has about 30 about half are cross platform so far interesting you didn't find them though could make it more obvious
west goblet
got my quest today
west goblet
yus
candid python
Nice!
haughty coyote
@west goblet How was it so far? 
severe plank
👌 👌 👌
west goblet
@haughty coyote liked it
haughty coyote
People of quest. Should i buy a quest as a first headset
paper cape
yes......if you have enough money to buy the white house
haughty coyote
Lol why
paper cape
well it's not the easiest thing to buy
haughty coyote
I have around 600$ saved for dis whole VR thing ( i have a 1050ti pc already )
I live in Cyprus. I was thinking about buying from amazon
paper cape
oh, then you should (your choose anyway)
haughty coyote
Do u have a quest @paper cape ?
paper cape
not yet
haughty coyote
How does the passtrough work? There is no video about that
paper cape
i don't know
haughty coyote
Like after setting up if you want to enable it to see something how do u do it
paper cape
i'm new here dude, the only fact that i tried to create an avatar is a miracle
haughty coyote
hey i have a problem. i am use vridge and leap motion. and i just want to ask can i use oculus controllers indsted of leap motion or do i need to buy the oculus set?
paper cape
i think it's compatible with oculus rift but i'm not sure
haughty coyote
so what you are saying is i can use it?
paper cape
trying cost nothing right?
haughty coyote
right.
low hatch
is it normal that wherever i go, everyone is a default robot with a picture on their stomach? i turned off safety settings and i upgraded my account.
paper cape
that's strange
low hatch
idk what to do to fix it. i can see my avatar but everyone else is that weird robot
haughty coyote
same
low hatch
ok cool so im not alone
haughty coyote
Those are PC- only avatars. You can't get rid of it.
Whenever someone has "perf block" on the front of their robot, that means you can show that avatar but at the cost of framerate drops depending on the characters.
hello, how can i update the firmware of my oculus ?
hi
@haughty coyote Should automatically update. Takes a lil bit depending on where you are.
i wait 2 hopurs nothing hapens
Might take more than two hours.
no
What?
small flame
i know this may look obvious but does quest means the vr client for oculus users?
brave steppe
No, quest uses an android build, cannot use the normal oculus client on it
azure mantle
@haughty coyote updates happen after a few hours when the device is idle and charging. so that's your best bet if you wanna force one.
warm crag
Is it possible to have FBT on the Wuest
azure mantle
Not on the quest version of vrchat, but if you use your quest over your wifi LAN as a PCVR headset, you can use any of the same FBT methods used for Rift/WMR headsets.
vernal galleon
h
haughty coyote
i not use the qeust, i use the s
and the s say my gtx 1050 is inkompatible,. so i cant connetc via mini display port so i cant update the firmware,>
why is my graka inkompatibel?? in th eoccifal hompage is it kompatible
woeful cypress
if you dont use a quest, than this is the wrong channel
haughty coyote
thank you for helping fpaul y3 troll
woeful cypress
I dont know why you feel triggered from me telling you that the #quest-general is for stuff around the oculus quest and not the Rift S
strong bison
User-support you would probably get more help, have you tried getting an adapter @haughty coyote ?
haughty coyote
i must use the adapter to use mini display port
haughty coyote
display port to mini display port have no problems because iths the same in smaler
display port to usb have loos
woeful cypress
dp to dp is fine
actually dp to usb c is no issue either if the C port has native video support
HDMI to Displayport is the issue
haughty coyote
alta, die rift s hat dp and a dp adapter to mini dp,
where speak about hdmi or usb ?
in my first sentensc stay thet the problem is inkompatibelyt with the offical supportet graka
woeful cypress
Im not sure why you are so aggressive
, i just anwered to your statement, and i can't know that you talk about an included adapter. 
(Cus i do not own a Rift S and thus haven't unboxed one)
For the question "where speak about hdmi or usb ?". in your second sentence you mention USB, and i added HDMI to complete the list.
Regardless, please move further questions to a DIFFERENT CHANNEL now. 
Im not directing you to a different channel cus i do it for fun, this is the QUEST channel and not the place to talk about the Rift S and issues with it. 
haughty coyote
haughty coyote
Can somehow make Pc avatars visible on quest?
jagged trench
not currently at the moment
median vigil
or the other way around. i'm seeing a few (more?) quest only avatars and worlds
probably "illegal question" but it would be awesome to somehow be able to archive "abandoned" avatar assets on vrchat to a common area for use / download / something. maybe someday. so many people create and then leave. so much waste.
jagged trench
probably not as a copyright would still be with the person if they originally made it or whatever Japanese person they stole the MMD from in the first place
median vigil
nicely at least, many of the things i want, the avatar models are out there. you just need to ask the right people or find the right discord/etc.
almost none of them are Quest ready. so it goes 😄
tawdry wyvern
we do stuff for free. so at some point we have other priority
barren mirage
that's literally all I make
I also just upload the quest version to pc, so they look identical, because why not
getting something down to 7k poly without doing it from full scratch isn't a small request however.
while it can be done, and I have several times, both on my own custom meshes and from other designs, there does not exist an easy enough to use retopology tool that is in the public domain for blender 2.8. For 2.79, there's retopoflow and I need to spend more time with it
I do agree that more people should port more under 7k avatars
cloud ravine
Does VRChat for Quest support cameras and video recording?
tacit meadow
Not built into vrchat but you can use the quest built in video capture feature
haughty coyote
my vrchat is only giving: vrchat not responding can someone help me
haughty coyote
Help me
cloud ravine
@haughty coyote You can make them visible if they're Cross platform
@haughty coyote What Quest avatars do you want.
I already did some cross platform avatars already. Which is visible to PC and Quest.
haughty coyote
help me
I can't play vrchat because of that
every time this happens, can someone help me solve
cloud ravine
Is your connection slow?
haughty coyote
no
full halo
Ree
haughty coyote
mike who cheese harry
haughty coyote
Help me?
fiery violet
Help!!! I cloned a gigantic Avatar and now I'm stuck in it. My menues won't work enough to change back. I'm stuck gigantic in my home
Halp!
haughty coyote
Reinstalling VRChat seems to be working fine for now
barren mirage
@fiery violet Both Triggers + Both Menu Buttons at the same time
that will engage safe mode
the other thing you can do is point your pointer (if you're in vrchat home) at the avatars next to the mirror
fiery violet
Safe mode only affects other avatars not mine
barren mirage
you can have someone join the world with a public with cloning on, click them with the laser pointer and click clone avatar in a pinch
I know the regular menu gets broken over a certain distance but that one always worked for me
fiery violet
I think that's the only way
barren mirage
also, and I don't know for sure if this works on quest, but with a keyboard plugged in on usb-c or maybe bluetooth you might be able to use the pc shortcut of Control + \
which switches to local robot
I still have to experiment with external devices but the code is quite similar, so maybe
fiery violet
Maybe I think worst case is I download on desktop and switch there
barren mirage
you'll have the same menu issue there, but yep
humm, that makes me wonder - a really nice feature request would be the ability to set avatar from vrchat.net
on login
fiery violet
Anyone wanna try friend requesting me and requesting an invite? TwistyReptile80 is my screen name
Pleasssse
barren mirage
<@&397642795457970181> @fiery violet I wish I could help out, but I'm at work - I might be able to find someone to break you out, I'll ask around
fiery violet
Thank you!
barren mirage
upvote this while you're waiting, lol
fiery violet
I just filed a ticket with support as well
barren mirage
pliant walrus
barren mirage
you might get a friend request from lolibrat, she'll try and break you out
fellow quester
fiery violet
Thank you
barren mirage
yw
fiery violet
Im free!!!! I made it into summer hub some how and was able to clone someone
azure mantle
oh yeah, quest doesnt have the pc shortcut for reverting back to a robot avatar....
I feel something like holding both grips and triggers while loading into a world could work
barren mirage
both triggers and both menus is safe mode, but it doesn't change your own avatar sadly, (or the bounds)
azure mantle
ah, then if that shortcut is known, having it done the second you enter a world could revert your own avatar instead.
midnight timber
If anyone gets stuck or needs help I'm free to help during the day if this ever happens to anyone else. I see that Tupper has marked the canny post that Lhun posted as Under Review so that's good but in the mean time I'm glad to help anyone, don't hesitate to send me a DM on here or if you see me on just ask for help! 😊
haughty coyote
I dont see VRCHAT SKD
plain flower
@haughty coyote you have to import it, it is an asset. you can obtain the VRC SDK from the vrc website when you log in and go to Download
haughty coyote
oh god i need to import it, thanks. I wasted 1 hours of thinking
damn this is soo complicated
and honestly i dont see ''settings''
plain flower
@haughty coyote click control panel
show control panel, under vrc sdk
its got a new ui so some tutorialsdont cover that one change uwu
barren mirage
don't forget to copy your generated atlas file into the directory and change skinning to "legacy" instead of embedded
haughty coyote
i dont know how to do that
i only know how to find avatar and install it and click it
didnt expect that happen all purple
fresh tundra
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kindred crag
@haughty coyote what i do to fix that is just change the shaders
haughty coyote
LMAO its even worse LOL
@kindred crag changing the shaders makes worse and worse lol
kindred crag
What shader is that?
kindred crag
🤔
kindred crag
Set the shaders on the materials to standard
kindred crag
Click on the avatar in hierarchy, click inspector on the right and there should be a list of materials that look like little circles. Click the shader area and set it to standard
Actually if its quest you might want to set it to vrcmoble and then toonlit or standard lite
haughty coyote
idk what hierarchy means @kindred crag
kindred crag
@haughty coyote the thing on the left
kindred crag
The big bar on the left with all the blue text?
haughty coyote
@kindred crag can you screenshot that because i dont see it
kindred crag
@haughty coyote
Click the hiro16 thing, if it doesnt show a bunch of materials on the right and some other components then maybe click the body, i dont remember which it is
haughty coyote
its same 3 materials as your screenshot and when i click body nothing happened @kindred crag
kindred crag
Screenshot them and send them here, i want to see what youre doing @haughty coyote
kindred crag
Click inspector in the top right @haughty coyote
haughty coyote
@kindred crag where is that inspector in the ''top right''
kindred crag
@haughty coyote
kindred crag
So what does it show now
kindred crag
Click on all the things that say hidden internal error shader or something like that and change them all to standard
haughty coyote
okay
@kindred crag I think i completed it and idk why its different face
Its like puppet
kindred crag
Its just kinda what the standard shader looks like, try toonlit. Just click the shader thing again but this time instead of clicking standard click vrcmoble and then toon lit
Its should be vrcmobile but it may just be mobile
haughty coyote
how to vrcmobile it and toon lit
kindred crag
Click the same place as before where the error shaders were and one of the options should say vrcmobile
Just click that and then toon lit
haughty coyote
where is ''vrcmobile'' @kindred crag
kindred crag
Vrchat i guess
kindred crag
Not all of the shaders need to be the same, you can set the horns shader to standard or standard lite if it makes them look better
haughty coyote
@kindred crag ok imma go sleep and tomorrow to see if this works, thanks for help
kindred crag
👌
dusk meadow
What is the best way to find a group of just quest users? Are there quest only maps?
jagged trench
not particularly as it takes like only two extra minutes to make it PC compatible
dusk meadow
Gotcha I love playing it just only come across PC players so it's just all bots with pics
cosmic rover
I found a way to make your VRChat home lose all it's textures on Quest
It looks like those glorious purple error gmod maps 😎
haughty coyote
@kindred crag I cant find ''show build control panel''
tawdry swift
@cosmic rover how?
@dusk meadow some of us of users do make cross compatible models but you can find quest users In spotlight maps alot of the time
kindred crag
@haughty coyote at the top of the screen click vrcsdk and it should be in that menu
haughty coyote
@kindred crag oh okay, when i click ''build & publish'' and click ''ok'' nothing happens
kindred crag
Add a title and click the box above the ok button thats says the info is up to date or something @haughty coyote
haughty coyote
Soo i need to be active on editing and playing VRChat to make progress faster until they give me ability to develop avatars? @kindred crag
kindred crag
Oh yeah you need the new user trust rank
high wolf
won't take long at all, I got access to it on a new account in 3 hours
kindred crag
Its easy to get, i got it in like a few hours the second that I added my 10th friend
high wolf
I didn't even have that many friends at the time
I don't think anyway
no I didn't I had like 5 or 6
haughty coyote
Welp its hard to add friends in VRCHAT i somehow got 1 friend from discord
high wolf
if you talk to people it makes it a lot easier
kindred crag
Just run around in the pug, loads of fun people
haughty coyote
I like wearing memes to people laugh
high wolf
I know but you just gotta do it, remember, no one knows who you really are
haughty coyote
last time i did voicemod carnage
and got banned in discord soo idk what happens in VRCHAT lmao
in some server
high wolf
that could potentially cause people to block you or mute you
haughty coyote
yeh
void river
hi
haughty coyote
i have spider man avatar and i should say ''Im spider man! Ride my duck''
my animation of duck when people sitting is like baby sitting lol
fast bough
If I have a low spec computer, and if I buy the oculus quest, will I be able to play VRCHAT on the oculus go without using my computer?
kindred crag
Both quest and go dont require pc but i dont think the go has vrchat, 6dof, or even two controllers
west goblet
@kindred crag the oculus go doesn't have vrchat and its only 3dof and one controller
i have a quest and go
brave island
After the last update of vrchat I can't even get on the app. It goes to the vrchat loading screen and then crashes everytime no matter what. Any other quest users having this problem? Or just me?
rose coral
dmae