quest-general

[supple willow]

it's easy to find don't overreact

[rocky dagger]

steam vr crashes alot for virtual desktop

[honest abyss]

Huh what type of crashes?

I've never had a problem myself

[rocky dagger]

lots of flashing and fast moving colors

[waxen finch]

huh? mine is fine

[nocturne pecan]

is anyone having trouble joining their pc friends? i keep getting invited to the black cat but whenever i join it’s an empty lobby.

[waxen finch]

but i dont have steam virtual desktop haha

[rocky dagger]

airlink doesn't work for me either for the same reasons

[haughty coyote]

Update ur game

[honest abyss]

Gotta update

[ancient quest]

why

[nocturne pecan]

it’s up to date :/

[haughty coyote]

What so we do about virtual desktop I use that to even get on my computer

I don't use that since its super laggy

[rocky dagger]

exactly

airlink is a joke

[haughty coyote]

Why take away

[lime reef]

Another announcement

[rocky dagger]

which it is NOT

[ancient quest]

why not use the cable?

[rocky dagger]

im just gonna go to neos at this point

[haughty coyote]

And bc of that there is this thing about hackers going on to make vrc die in players

[pastel crow]

some PC players cant launch VRC rn

[haughty coyote]

Oof

[haughty coyote]

The cable won't link

[pastel crow]

they said they got rid of their clients

[haughty coyote]

Is this crap about hackers a rumor?

[pastel crow]

i believe so, most likely

[haughty coyote]

That's how I connect from my quest to my PC

Ofc

[ancient quest]

EAC is a kernel anti cheat that even reads your HWID, meaning that its possible that simply uninstalling the mods won't work and you'll need to cleanly reinstall the whole game

[granite yew]

they have awoken a god...

[haughty coyote]

brej

[granite yew]

Hes risen to fight our distress lol

[haughty coyote]

Ay yo he got the gaming chair moment

[odd wren]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 59136 users in VRChat currently

[glass dust]

so how do we play on pc without virtual desktop ?

[rocky dagger]

steam vr

if it works for you

[glass dust]

but whats the difference, virtual desktop is just there to launch steam vr anyways

[lime reef]

Lmfao

[glass dust]

so what changes ??

[rocky dagger]

for people like me who use oculus pc vr, we get banned

[twin berry]

someone post this to either r/oddlyterrifying or r/bossbattle

[rocky dagger]

my steam vr would give anyone with epilepsy a seizure

[glass dust]

because i open virtual desktop, open ovr, and then play vrc from that. how is that banned or even considered a mod.

[twin berry]

Is VRC on the standalone ok btw?\

[restive marlin]

brain dead devs that cant tell the difference

[glass dust]

lose half of your platform in a day challenge!! (level easy)

[rocky dagger]

it injects a .dll to use vr

[glass dust]

so why would they get rid of our access to that though?

[granite yew]

Lol

[rocky dagger]

because fuck us

[glass dust]

this is dumb

[narrow rapids]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 59522 users in VRChat currently

[worldly wedge]

For now!

[median surge]

Made something

[glass widget]

Performance changes probably no fbt for linked quest etc.

!Online

[lyric dock]

There are 59593 users in VRChat currently

[bleak peak]

Is there any VRChat Quest alternatives other than RecRoom?

[worldly wedge]

No

[median surge]

Horizon but that shits ass

[bleak peak]

aw man, ok thanks :(

[worldly wedge]

VRchats a one of a kind and it just killed itself

[median surge]

Exactly

[sharp knoll]

I agree

[worldly wedge]

Sorry about that

[median surge]

I was even willing to buy a pc just mainly for it tbh

[eager pelican]

So I play quest but connected through virtual desktop. I play the steam vr vrchat though. Will I still be able to play vrchat with virtual desktop through this method?

[median surge]

Avatar and world making

[solemn orchid]

Just got to wait for chillout to take off and they might come over to quest.

[worldly wedge]

Literally what I was gonna do too

[sharp knoll]

Well I guess not cause of what’s going on now.

[sharp knoll]

Same here

[lime reef]

Everyone going to chilloutvr but where tf we gonna go? Lmfao

[median surge]

Honestly I have another motive

[worldly wedge]

Well this is just fucked now

[worldly wedge]

😭

[median surge]

Spider man ps4 remake looks beautiful

[sharp knoll]

I already played and completed the original one

It’s cool tbh

[median surge]

We fend for ourselves

[full sequoia]

Does the App on Quest 2 still work?

[sharp knoll]

If it does or doesn’t well idk

[worldly wedge]

Agreed, if we die, we die together!

[lime reef]

https://tenor.com/view/were-on-our-own-randy-marsh-south-park-s14e9-its-a-jersey-thing-gif-22863268

[median surge]

Same, I’d get it on pc because the graphics are beautiful

[sharp knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/thanks-bow-thank-you-sign-of-respect-gif-15662194

Respect

[teal rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-shoes-gif-21489615

[full sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/iamproudofyou-my-hero-gif-18489622

[worldly wedge]

Respect too you too my brother and respect to you all my homies!

[sharp knoll]

Jesus it’s like a mortal kombat xray

[median surge]

Or learn how to become better devs and make a much better game

[lime reef]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-sir-yes-boss-military-salute-giving-honor-rip-gif-23161689

[sharp knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/ganondorf-ganon-smash-smash-bros-super-smash-bros-gif-13050238

[teal rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-cat-insanity-polygon-donut-ive-gone-completely-mental-death-gif-25207999

[woeful onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/toes-foot-gif-9925914

[sharp knoll]

We are all together and like what @median surge said

[worldly wedge]

I honestly don’t think there will be another game like VRchat especially after this

[sharp knoll]

If we die we die together

[worldly wedge]

I couldn’t agree more!

https://tenor.com/view/rudy-kobansky-profitansky-power-respect-respect-bro-gif-15464776

[median surge]

Man I’m a cult leader now

[sharp knoll]

Yep lol

[worldly wedge]

Lead us too salvation!

[sharp knoll]

And to freedom and hope lol

[lime reef]

It would be nice to have another social game like vrc tho. Like not everyone got 5k laying around for a pc

[worldly wedge]

Facts

[sharp knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/i-couldnt-agree-more-john-krasinski-saturday-night-live-youre-absolutely-correct-thats-right-gif-20212746

[median surge]

That would be a good idea

[empty shadow]

Yeah, sadly. The entry to PCVR is... High.

[sharp knoll]

And we can’t play it due of the new update

[worldly wedge]

Literally us all right now

[alpine condor]

we die as fallen hero’s

[sharp knoll]

And friends and family

[worldly wedge]

Couldn’t agree more lil one

[full sequoia]

and we get bullied for having quest 2s, like wtf you spend how much on a headset, a cable, space to play, an a pc that doesnt crash? yeah mhm

[sharp knoll]

We’re all equally together

[median surge]

Y’all mfs are chill

[worldly wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-turn-your-back-on-family-you-cant-walk-away-from-family-you-cant-leave-family-behind-you-cant-ignore-family-you-cant-disregard-family-gif-16058425

[alpine condor]

We fall like Richthofen

[median surge]

Better than general 😭

[sharp knoll]

And if we die we all die together

[empty shadow]

That's just elitism.

[lime reef]

Ikr?! Like i had 2k but that shit went to my CAR!!! my car literally said "YA GOT MONEY?! HA BET"

[median surge]

More like resnov

[sharp knoll]

I agree with you, never ever turn your back in family and friends that will be there no matter what happens.

[alpine condor]

True true

[full sequoia]

these gas prices am i right

[empty shadow]

Kevin, not all of us have thousands of Euros to spend on a gaming PC to access VR.

[worldly wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/richtofen-it-is-done-gorod-krovi-black-ops-zombies-gif-26078439

[worldly wedge]

God we just met but I love you all already! 😭

[devout vector]

right, no one should be shunned for not wanting to pay thousands for a damn computer when they have other expenses

[sharp knoll]

@median surge what was your reaction bout the new Spider-Man 2 with venom in it?

[alpine condor]

They join us now

[lime reef]

Thank you for understanding 😭😭😭

[tepid cape]

hey i need some help -- my friend told me to refund vrc+ that i gifted him, we talked it through, how would i refund it if i bought it for someone else?

[sharp knoll]

If I’m gonna be honest I Respect all of you in the server.

[median surge]

I cried he’s my favorite marvel villain

[sharp knoll]

Aw

[median surge]

Hopefully it’s like that one ultimate spider man game

[alpine condor]

I find it funny already half of vrchat is gone

[sharp knoll]

I started vr 3 years ago and wanted to see how it was but now it’s like it went from ok and now idk.

[worldly wedge]

Same my brother

[median surge]

Half of the server disappears

[full sequoia]

good

[median surge]

Only we exist

[sharp knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/army-fist-bump-friendship-army-of-two-the-devils-cartel-gif-6195745

[alpine condor]

https://tenor.com/view/respect-davis-boreanaz-salute-uniform-gif-11216021

[worldly wedge]

We’re what’s left

[alpine condor]

I love that game

Anywho

[sharp knoll]

Oh yeah

[median surge]

We should all make a separate server tbh

[devout vector]

this sucks i had so many friends in vr, amazing worlds, now that everyone is leaving i bet the creators of those great worlds will be leaving to aka no more decent worlds

[full sequoia]

Wait, was there even a hacker last night? I was watching the general for like an hour and still couldn't tell.

[median surge]

Y’all are chill

[ionic plaza]

delete vr chat

[sharp knoll]

Yeah

[median surge]

Idk

[rain maple]

Right its stupid

[worldly wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/zavala-indeed-destiny-destiny2-vanguard-gif-10013199

[sharp knoll]

Vr has been here 10 years ago now I’m gonna be sad if we can’t play it anymore

[full sequoia]

the creators prob dont wanna tell the truth, sounds like a form of government 😒

[median surge]

It’s disappointing

[median surge]

They say it’s false but everyone says that it’s true

[sharp knoll]

Cause would you all agree with me if I say this”what was the whole point of getting everything we once dreamed about to do in vrchat,full body tracking,pc, virtual desktop, and vrc+ I’m 😔

Sad

[devout vector]

i got a vr headset two years ago mainly just for vrc and beatsaber and now the games gunna be dead, it just sucks too because for some, vrc was the main place to make friends and chill thats not like an xbox or something

[worldly wedge]

Honestly don’t wanna continue buying VRC+ anymore

[alpine condor]

I was literally about to get those too

[haughty coyote]

Update just dropped on quest lessgoooooo

[full sequoia]

Man i was planning on getting a full body tracking to hang out in vrchat, thank god i didnt spend any of it.

[rain maple]

i was going to get full body theres no point now

[median surge]

Fbt can be used for other games too

[misty spruce]

Why tf are people talking about VR Chat dying

[alpine condor]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-leave-gtfo-get-out-of-here-gif-6207127

[lime reef]

Bruh same, like we wanted to be like everyone else

[random moth]

Easy anti cheat isnt the best so people imploded

[autumn moss]

Does this update affect quest users?

[sharp knoll]

Well can I be honest I am actually happy to meet such wonderful and nice people like you guys here

[haughty coyote]

Doesn’t affect vrc in anyway

[worldly wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-guy-demon-2016-gif-10925418

[full sequoia]

I think it affects all users

[devout vector]

yeah me too, slime vr was gunna be my main thing, i feel bad for the slime vr devs too, so sweet and now hella people gunna be canceling orders

[median surge]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-metal-gear-metal-gear-rising-out-senator-armstrong-out-gif-23706021

[misty spruce]

It’s not gonna die though LMFAo

[sharp knoll]

You guys are the best to hang out with

[haughty coyote]

Nah it doesn’t affect quest

[pseudo inlet]

soooo... I'm trying to join my friend.. but it puts me in a different server. like- same world, different instance. is anyone else experiencing this?

[lime reef]

Try telling that to pc users lmfao

[random moth]

Unless another competitor comes in, people will prolly come back to vrchat

[sharp knoll]

Oof

[full sequoia]

Chrissy, i am gonna need you to wake up though

[autumn moss]

How so?

[tired plover]

NICE vrchat EAC ruined it you lost a player

[autumn moss]

lmaoooo

I’m trying

[alpine condor]

I love how everyone killed or said get out to the person that was happy the update dropped 🤮

[rain maple]

why are they doing this anyway?

[glass stirrup]

I won't be able to play full body with my quest 2 anymore ?

[alpine condor]

Yep

[haughty coyote]

The update is cool

[misty spruce]

PC users are ignorant to a lot of things just cause they have a PC and think it is automatically better than everything. PC’s are good but like that doesn’t mean tear down everyone else and ruin their fun. Like the Quest is really good for what it is. Let people enjoy it.

[devout vector]

yeah hella people left but some will still stay, unfortunately the crashers and what not will probably explode in numbers

[full sequoia]

Ngl idk im not much of a code gal but, but if my fellow brotheren on the valve index is affected, then IM affected

[tired plover]

Yall lost the fanbase that help built the game with this dumb cashgrab of an update

[haughty coyote]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 60446 users in VRChat currently

[empty shadow]

Anti-cheat on Quest is... Pointless.

[haughty coyote]

^

[median surge]

I made a simple server if anyone wants to join

[sharp knoll]

Sure

[empty shadow]

Most/majority of the players on Standalone Quest don't know about Dev Mode.

[rain maple]

sure

[median surge]

I just barely made it

[autumn moss]

That’s understandable

[worldly wedge]

Honestly how I feel rn

[empty shadow]

So, there's no security concern there.

[sharp knoll]

Lol

[devout vector]

right like, u think it’s gunna stop pc players from messing with our games and booting us

[median surge]

Just dm me and I’ll send you the link

[lime reef]

LMFAO

[sharp knoll]

Alright

[haughty coyote]

eac is literally a kernal level driver that can do anything on your device

[median surge]

LMAOO

[haughty coyote]

it can see everything you do lol

[empty shadow]

I know about Dev Mode and I have it enabled, but it's for apps like Discord that I want on my Quest that FB doesn't have on their store.

[full sequoia]

The vrchat mods looking at general chat

[empty shadow]

Or my passwords via Bitwarden. Or fun stuff, like QuestZDoom and custom homes.

[median surge]

Yeah……
No

[sharp knoll]

@median surge I’ll join the sever lol

[median surge]

Ik my phone does that already

But like

[median surge]

Dawg

E six two one

[haughty coyote]

its a kernal level driver

[sharp knoll]

It removed it didn’t it

[worldly wedge]

Fuck it, meme time

[median surge]

There

[sharp knoll]

Meme time XD

[haughty coyote]

it gets mad at the most small things running in the back

[rain maple]

I can tho

[haughty coyote]

ive heard of peoples rgb softwares on their pc making eac get mad

[median surge]

MAN

[rain maple]

BRUH

[worldly wedge]

😭

[median surge]

Just dm

We’re escaping this bitch

[stark narwhal]

Had to remove mine a long time ago to get around EAC

[sharp knoll]

Wait @worldly wedge and @median surge I got something funny for you guys

[rain maple]

hell yeah

[worldly wedge]

Hell yea let’s see

[sharp knoll]

Watch it

[rain maple]

bruh why is you worried what i got going on??

[sharp knoll]

XD he did not just say that XD

[devout vector]

Dude shut up, theres a thing called being reasonable and not dumping all your savings on fbt and a pc whenever u have it

[lime reef]

Lmfao

[sharp knoll]

I got you

[haughty coyote]

its stupid

[median surge]

Anyone else wanna join?

[lime reef]

Lmfao the faceplant

[autumn moss]

Join wha?

[median surge]

Just some random server I made

[autumn moss]

Oh sure I’m down

[median surge]

Since the majority of the questies here are chill

[devout vector]

Who hurt u lol

[autumn moss]

Seems so I just joined this server yesterday

[amber finch]

Bro does anyone just wanna hang out? I’m bored as hell

[rain maple]

but why you worried about what i do keep it to urself the hell- i dont know you and you dont know me end of discussion

[devout vector]

This guy right here is why the age rating for vrc needs to be raised

[median surge]

How tho

Definitely*

[lime reef]

Is it too late to ask?

[median surge]

Not at all

[magic mauve]

for me full body still works fine

[devout vector]

bro is still typing 😭

[median surge]

Give him time he needs a dictionary

[devout vector]

u right

[sharp knoll]

Bruh facts 😎

[mild condor]

I just hope they dont get all sappy and start asking for us back when they go broke

[devout vector]

Take a deep breath, go outside, and touch some grass.

[median surge]

Man thanks for comparing me to the yt ads from your school email lol

[scarlet wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cry-crying-tears-broken-gif-15062040

[mild condor]

Dude are yall really fighting? Look at the mods for all the shit going on not each other

[scarlet wraith]

tbh they shouldve focused on the background checks on these people who prey on little kids

[devout vector]

We aint fighting, this vegan dude came in here being a hoe to us 4 no reason

[median surge]

1156.726.19.715

[dim root]

Heads up, I just went on my Oculus to hop on vrchat, and got an update.

[devout vector]

damn they rolling it out already?

[magic mauve]

someones mad holy shit

[mild condor]

Ok yall need to chill out. Now isnt the time for this

[dim root]

I guess so, I just downloaded a 900mb update.

[scarlet wraith]

Some people dont research at times yk and thats not your business to butt into tbh

[magic mauve]

who cares tho, if ur so mad get off discord and do something w ur life

[mild condor]

Dude if your not a quest user then why are you in this chat???

[devout vector]

What are you trying to achieve by inserting yourself into a conversation just to attempt to shit on quest users? Your so high and mighty, why dont you buy everyone fbt?

[dim root]

Ah the toxicity of vrchat on your phone on discord, gotta love it.

[magic mauve]

HAHAHA

[scarlet wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-tired-gif-23650631

[spice crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/yi-lan-ma-chinese-elon-musk-elon-musk-gif-25624596

[mild condor]

Then you a pleb too. In in the same boat as us bro. Really out here attacking his own people

[devout vector]

right lmao

[haughty coyote]

mans really said friendly fire

[misty spruce]

Who tf is acting like a “quest pleb” sounds like someone is being a privileged PC user again

[timber grotto]

Sobbing

[devout vector]

This guy just wants the attention from us he don’t get from his parents.

[wooden forge]

We’re safe lol

[haughty coyote]

at this point just block him

[devout vector]

will do

[unborn oyster]

I crashed like twice on Vrchat for some odd reason?

[mild condor]

Dude. It dont hurt to be nice and just chill out. Now you wastin time of your day to really act all high and mighty when you not

[devout vector]

Im no expert but the servers could be glitchy just from the sheer amount of people getting on or deleting idk

[mild condor]

You being hella rude to the others around you and you just mad someone is stopping you

[devout vector]

dude said we starting shit but if you take a minute to scroll up, he was the first to say anything to us

[mild condor]

It dont hurt not to pick up your phone and not type

At least try and say something nice for one in your life

Dude just get off of discord and take a chill pill or something

Dont get aggressive with me. Im being nice to you by not saying some really mean shit. Go relax. Take a breather and calm down

[scarlet wraith]

why you gotta pry and make someone answer stuff they dont wanna answer-

Literally leave it be its easy tbh

[limpid crane]

Wait will vrchat work on the quest 2 if I use steamVR/OVR?

[scarlet wraith]

you fighting and proving people you are right is just dumb leave it be if you both cant get along well

[mild condor]

You are the only one getting mad about this. Everyone else is chillin but you. I cant stop what happens to you outside of here but I know that you can avoid the rest of a one-sided fight if you just chill out

[scarlet wraith]

do you wanna call and talk about it then just bombarding a channel with more pointless stuff we can play minecraft too while we at it

[vapid forge]

not trynna be rude but this question is a question i also need a answer to lmfao

[scarlet wraith]

Im in a good mood for a call rn tbh so im cool with it

We can play minecraft or yu gi oh too

[glass dust]

what do they mean in announcements ?

no like… what do they mean by oculus pc…

[haughty coyote]

Ew nerds fighting

Gross 🤮

[mild condor]

Dude im not even gonna argue with you. Im not gonna try and help you anymore either. Im just gonna move on and live my life and hope you can do the same

[haughty coyote]

I wanted to see vrchat fall

It’s funny af

Shut up vegan

[glass dust]

so okay does this work cuz this is how i load up vrc on virtual desktop

open virtual desktop on my quest

open ovr by clicking on it on my desktop from quest

open my vrchat from steam vr

[haughty coyote]

Good comeback

[glass dust]

so do we buy the virtual desktop on steam ?

so like normal ?

i’m so sorry if i sound dumb i am a small brained person

will i get banned if i try it

ohh okay tysm

[vital pike]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 63057 users in VRChat currently

[vital pike]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 63241 users in VRChat currently

[twin niche]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 63609 users in VRChat currently

[manic ember]

my ass as a quest user still quitting this 🤡 game over this shit cus it effects majorly the people i specifically play to spend time with
Bootlickers who've dunked too much money into this crashing train of a social platform can keep seething

[dusk grove]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 64497 users in VRChat currently

[dusk grove]

Two of my friends had to quit since without mods deaf people wont get any subtitels

[upper kayak]

what is this

Failed to initialize graphics.
Make sure you have DirectX 11 installed, have up to date
drivers for your graphics card and have not disabled
3D acceleration in display settings.
InitializeEngineGraphics failed

idk how to update this

[keen arch]

so with quest no more FBT ?

[digital stratus]

Some of my pc vrc friends were saying the update was bad does anyone know anything about the update?

[keen arch]

if they push EAC

[manic ember]

exactly, dont want to play a game thats ment to be open to """Everyone""" (except disabled) people anyways

[upper kayak]

add me I want to call you really fast

[keen arch]

idk if im getting banned if i open vrc with my quest and my fbt

[digital stratus]

No thank you.

[dusk grove]

Easy anti cheat prevent the modding community to mod.

[digital stratus]

Ah alr

[keen arch]

anyone know that ?

[manic ember]

flat out ban of all mods with a shit anti cheat (which is easily exploitable) which really only serves to strip disabled people from safety and accessibility options, and creators from being able to protect their models from being ripped and resold

[uneven geyser]

Anyone else’s fps go up after the update?

[dusk grove]

You wont get banned but if your FBT System sends the Information directly to vrcbat it will see it as seperate program and EAC will prevent you from starting vrchat

[digital stratus]

Oh that’s anoying

[manic ember]

i genuinely guess its crashers since crashers dont even use mods to crash people, but people DID use mods to prevent themselves from getting crashed so yknow :)

[uneven geyser]

Ohhh

[keen arch]

really why would they do that people spend money even to they have quest

[digital stratus]

Hopefully the see what they did and revert the update💀

[wild fable]

According to the announcement they aren't

[simple pasture]

So the update made the movie worlds messed up. Me and my boyfriend were watching movies just minutes ago and now we can’t watch anymore. The pc users can see it but quest can’t

[manic ember]

at this point im expecting them more to try and gatekeep accessibility options behind a paywall just like every other quality of life feature

[digital stratus]

Then start a revolution /j

[dusk grove]

Who knows. We could also ask them why they would impliment easy anti cheat knowing fully well its gonna upset tens of thousands of users who use them

[manic ember]

so they could sell use back the the free features the mods provided for a price

[crisp burrow]

But if VrChat does keep this up, it will be. 
So let’s hope they notice, 
“and they probably will”. And fix, plus revert this problem back. ```

[dusk grove]

Quest 2 is going up in price soon. Ill just sell my oculis for a Profit then xD

[manic ember]

VRC is a game driven by a creative community, if they continue to strip our creative freedom and accessibility to the game , any other VR chat game with more freedom will over take it in only a matter of time

there are already plenty of alternative game titles being tossed around as we speak

[dusk grove]

They know. They looked the steam thread already a while ago because of the backlash. I am very curious what their next step will be. I mean they could just remove eac

[simple pasture]

Can anyone else watch movies yes

[thorn root]

Nope… with the new update movie worlds don’t work, same with virtual desktop

[digital stratus]

#fixVRC

[dusk grove]

Virtual desktop Was supposed to be fixed already though

[jagged hill]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 64933 users in VRChat currently

[manic ember]

plenty of players are saying it isnt working still

[twilit solstice]

is it working with vrchat or nah?

[manic ember]

devs can say something is fixed all they want, not like theyre strangers to being fucking liars

[dusk grove]

Dunno. Havent tryed yet. I just know my Airlink dosnt work with the EAC when i tried it 4 hours ago

[twilit solstice]

I don't mind using airlink. But can we all agree that virtual desktop is much better?

[digital stratus]

Yup

[upper kayak]

bro I cant join vr chat this thing says on my screen Failed to initialize graphics.
Make sure you have DirectX 11 installed, have up to date
drivers for your graphics card and have not disabled
3D acceleration in display settings.
InitializeEngineGraphics failed

idk how to fix that

[simple pasture]

I’m only on quest and none of the movie worlds are working anymore

[dusk grove]

Movie Worlds almost always break the moment a update comes out. You will have to wait for the Worlds to be updated probably

[steady harness]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 64315 users in VRChat currently

[lofty spire]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 64312 users in VRChat currently

[radiant gale]

I’m I safe to go on vrc?? -questie

[sterile zodiac]

Question: since EAC isn't supported on Quest / Android, will Quest then not have that implemented? Or what? 🤔

[zenith bridge]

No idea. Chances are they'll delay the update for quest and try to do something similar

Or they already did and it works but certain things like virtual desktop won't work

[wild fable]

Update is out though cant use virtual desktop

[zenith bridge]

Unfortunate

So standalone only for quest users I guess. Unless you happen to have a link cable available or you want to attempt using airlink if it's even working rn

The latest quest 2 update (meta update not vrchat) made airlink a bit weird

[sterile zodiac]

That still utilizes PC VR though and virtualizes the PC version to your headset.

[sterile zodiac]

Possibly? I was just wondering what plans were for standalone Quest since there aren't any mods on Quest

[vast agate]

Well I tried both air link and Virtual desktop but both showed the same thing as there was an error for vr but not for pc.

Or desktop mode

[zenith bridge]

Probably nothing new. I don't know if the devs have really done much ever for the quest version

[zenith bridge]

Air link too? dang

[sterile zodiac]

I thought air link was supposed to work?

[zenith bridge]

Well I don't have enough room near my pc to do wired so rip.

[tawdry adder]

I am trying to create a quest world this is my first time i just got my quest and i want to create a world for it.anyone know any good youtubers to help get me started on making worlds for my quest

[vast agate]

Same

[tawdry adder]

Nothing ik nothing lol just getting started @flat yacht

[plucky linden]

ChilloutVR and NeosVR is not on quest from last I checked via this morning.

[haughty coyote]

Vr is better than pc

[frigid cloak]

<@&397642795457970181> am I seeing that the oculus quest will infact NOT work anymore and I'll have to buy another device ??

[haughty coyote]

w VRchat

[indigo hedge]

!quest

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 65382 users in VRChat currently

[woeful cypress]

No you are not.

Read the Announcement

Quest works just fine

Virtual Desktop however only works with the steam Version of VRChat

For the Oculus one you do need to use Air Link

[frigid cloak]

@woeful cypress I am asking in regards to the usage of the oculus desktop

[woeful cypress]

You can use AirLink for Oculus Desktop app

[sharp knoll]

Yeah but isn’t fair for vr desktop

[woeful cypress]

But if you use Virtual Desktop you can also just use the Steam Version

It's pretty irrelevant.

[sharp knoll]

Not to mention people paid money for stuff for vrchat

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-what-huh-will-smith-i-mean-gif-15916247

[frigid cloak]

Do you have a link describing the difference? And how to operate this because I certainly don't know how and don't know the overall steps

[woeful cypress]

Nothing of which is lost.

[sharp knoll]

Ok

[woeful cypress]

If you use AirLink, use the Oculus Store on PC

If you use Virtual Desktop, use Steam.

[sharp knoll]

Anywho I’m gonna get going adios

https://tenor.com/view/dante-devil-may-cry-devil-may-cry5-dmc-goodbye-gif-22483176

[frigid cloak]

I see okay, I have one other question and excuse my rudeness for this

I do feel like you're being awful hostile to someone who wishes to use your system and is only seeking help to continue to do so. I don't know if that's correct to react the way that you are. I understand the frustration but it really isn't needed to throw it in my direction.

I understand I type funky but I mean well as English is NOT my first language @woeful cypress

[compact night]

bruh the pc users cant use mod any more it kinda dumb

[simple perch]

A whole vrchat rp server is not playing vrchat because they aren’t sure if the thing about hacking is real I’m pretty sure it’s fake

[woeful cypress]

but i did guide you to the right solutions.

[simple perch]

So only five more years until they rp again

[frigid cloak]

@woeful cypress correct while you did lead me to the correct solution it was done with a little more aggression than you really need and while you have negative publicity its always best to be kind to the users that are still here. I think yall can do better

No hate only words of advice- I'm a Vtuber myself and can understand stress is a bitch so I'm not angry

[woeful cypress]

I'm sorry for that one.
Please understand that due to the current sittuation, we all are very heavily loaded and under big stress.

It's not on purpose.

[sharp knoll]

Also Paul forgive my language mean no harm

It’s just I’m shocked because of what’s going on and it’s confusing wether if this is bad or not :/

[frigid cloak]

I understand, please do attempt better management and don't assume everyone is out to get you guys! Stress biting is some of the worst you can do

[compact night]

so im i the only one with mods or what

[simple perch]

I didn’t even know people modded vrchat until now

[sharp knoll]

Well I’m good strawberrypawbs I’m better now and I hope things will be alright and settle down.

[frigid cloak]

Speaking from business experience it is easier to retain old people then get new people on average you will spend 5k getting a new person to join your server / Event / business

However new people recruiting will cost you nothing

[sharp knoll]

Oh

[frigid cloak]

@sharp knoll you're all good!

[sharp knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/thanks-bow-thank-you-sign-of-respect-gif-15662194

[frigid cloak]

@woeful cypress like I said I'm not mad but I do have advice to pass 💕

[sharp knoll]

So is that what it looks like now?

[compact night]

idk whats going on

[simple perch]

Yeah but clearly some people don’t realize that because valve won’t update the console version of tf2

[compact night]

and no i guess i never updated my game

[sharp knoll]

Oh

[frigid cloak]

@simple perch to be completely fair most people don't have business skills

[sharp knoll]

K then y’all have a good night I’m heading out it’s bout be morning soon

[simple perch]

I’m still mad about it the console version of tf2 hasn’t been updated in 14 years

[sharp knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/dante-devil-may-cry-devil-may-cry5-dmc-goodbye-gif-22483176

[versed sage]

Hi there, seems that quest videos do not work in this build. (This includes movie and chill) https://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports/p/1213-videos-on-quest-dont-work-in-this-build

[brisk tusk]

Yeah I'm having the no links loading issue

[frigid cloak]

Anyway I too am going to go to bed. I am disappointed by the response from the mods but I do understand the stress, hopefully you guys will be able to rectify it soon and get some rest.

As I've been told if you can't handle a situation due to emotional stress please feel free to step away or handle it later. I trust yall to figure this out <@&397642795457970181> ✨️ good luck

[haughty coyote]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 64963 users in VRChat currently

[haughty coyote]

Anyone wanna join the decepticons of vrchat?

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 64644 users in VRChat currently

[opaque sierra]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 64687 users in VRChat currently

[haughty coyote]

no

[vapid forge]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 63831 users in VRChat currently

[topaz escarp]

Use #bottalk or https://api.vrchat.cloud/api/1/visits to check VRChat's player count.

Temporarily yes, feel free to upvote the issue on VRChat's Canny -> https://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports/p/1213-videos-on-quest-dont-work-in-this-build

[hybrid latch]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 62708 users in VRChat currently

There are 62663 users in VRChat currently

[young wigeon]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 62501 users in VRChat currently

[idle heath]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 62424 users in VRChat currently

[idle heath]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 62405 users in VRChat currently

[idle heath]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 62386 users in VRChat currently

[idle heath]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 62299 users in VRChat currently

[idle heath]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 62193 users in VRChat currently

[dapper flare]

notice how its going down 💀

[idle heath]

every minute online decreases by 100 people

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 61915 users in VRChat currently

[haughty coyote]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 61839 users in VRChat currently

[dapper flare]

i wonder why

☠️

[idle heath]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 61822 users in VRChat currently

[idle heath]

when another ban on nsfm is introduced, it will become even more fun

[dapper flare]

most definitely

[tawdry rampart]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 61578 users in VRChat currently

[idle heath]

the average online fell below the usual value by 5k people

[dapper flare]

the fucking drop dude 😭

[idle heath]

the jump was in 2017-2018. later in 2020, the situation improved after the appearance of a new generation of virtual reality helmet

nothing is clear about the online jumps so far. and you're right. People don 't know yet . We need to look at the weekly schedule. However, a total of 2k people transferred to the other two well-known platforms. And this is only 3 hours after the update

yes

yes. there are very lagging servers. Not everyone is able to register

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 60808 users in VRChat currently

[copper dirge]

some (not all) items appear solid on cameras but not the item itself. It isn’t like this for other people, any fix for this?

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 59712 users in VRChat currently

[split prawn]

quick question, has anyone noticed more lag since the update was released? just asking before i go on

[granite ermine]

I havent even updated mine and refuse to

[split prawn]

ah, probably applicable. if it does then im hoping they do some changes to at least make the game run better

[uneven night]

Is it just me or are video worlds just not working

[haughty coyote]

no more movies and chill? 😭

[polar orchid]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 57269 users in VRChat currently

[polar orchid]

Sad, i was looking forward to still playing vrc

[digital sparrow]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 57124 users in VRChat currently

[polar orchid]

I have crashed a total of 15 times today

Now im unsure if i wanna even pursue getting fullbody at this point

[wild fable]

I think the movie and chill worlds just need time to update

[polar orchid]

Movie and chill? Nah i dont watch movies i like playing the games on vrc

Its fun but a bunch of crashers and whatnot have resurfaced since the update

[wild fable]

I can only imagine... i would try and play but my avatars are not functioning. Even in quest they behave like they're in desktop mode

[polar orchid]

Welcome to Vrchats downfall..

I truly enjoyed the game, put so much time into it, became a small time avatar editor

And now its all out the window

[whole parrot]

So is it true that quest is having awful performance?

[lime reef]

I just got off but i wasn't. But ik some users were, only a small handful

[hushed carbon]

are people mad just because you cant use hacking mods or something?

[dawn cove]

basically

[whole parrot]

It’s more than that but I’m not the best at explaining it I’m sure there’s videos out there for it

[obsidian thicket]

Just mods in general but they won't give the devs the time of day to actually fix it

As a fivem owner I added a anti cheat and it fucked my community but a anti cheat takes time to dev or config properly

Cause before people were getting banned for driving now I have zero issues it just takes time and tests

[hushed carbon]

alright i guess people just arent patient with some things

[obsidian thicket]

What do you expect people are on this game so much they are starting to feel shit in the game irl

[haughty coyote]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 55352 users in VRChat currently

[obsidian thicket]

Cause they got it either Christmas or there birthday

[dawn cove]

^^^^ quest is an easy (if expensive) gift like a console, and it works as a standalone piece of hardware with minimal setup

[median surge]

And they most likely watch joshdub

Because half of them are brushes

[obsidian thicket]

Yea I bought a quest2 and it still sits on my shelf collecting dust

[median surge]

Since vrchat is dying I have nothing else to really play

Maybe just Pavlov

[obsidian thicket]

You should try fiven

[wild fable]

Vader immortal isn't that bad

[whole parrot]

I bought one after years to mainly play vrchat— plus the fnaf game but that’s 30$ I don’t have atm

[obsidian thicket]

*fivem

[median surge]

Is it worth the money

[wild fable]

Id say so... especially the 3rd one for the lightsaber dojo

[median surge]

I mean blades and sorcery has mods too

[wild fable]

Yeah that is true but is it on quest alone?

[median surge]

Yup

[wild fable]

Hmm... may have to look into that one, especially since I've seen some mod videos for stuff like the infinity gauntlet

[dawn cove]

vrchat isnt dead...?

[dawn cove]

review bombing before the patch notes happens a lot

rarely does it actually leave a significant impact after a month

minecraft is a p good example of this. because before every single major update since i started following, theres always a ton of "this is ruining the game!" until it actually comes out and people like it

[drifting sigil]

Lmao PC players are salty over being equal to quest.

[shadow mirage]

Lol

[dawn cove]

thats really most of what it is. pc users getting salty because their precious tos breaking mods dont work anymore. whats even funnier is i mentioned vrc would likely go with mod integration when someone was complaining last night about it. look, tupper posted an update regarding possibly integrating mod features...

[sick charm]

Yea..they’re feeling what we feel all the time, but some mods are good for deaf ppl to watch movies, I wish those ones weren’t taken

It’s all over tik tok..kinda tiring to see it lol..

[dawn cove]

accessability was mentioned explicitly in todays announcement so thats something theyre looking into

[sick charm]

That’s good, I think it’s a learning time for the pc users to feel us lol

[dawn cove]

it is about time some equalizing was done. the fact pc has public avi catalogues and we dont has been a massive pain

[lapis stag]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 48370 users in VRChat currently

[raven carbon]

Is vrc movies not working for quest

Or is it just me rn

[pliant dirge]

movies are broken

[raven carbon]

They fixing it?

[spring wedge]

thats the last thing on there mind lmao

[raven carbon]

BRUH

[spring wedge]

considering they just lost half there player base and people are boycotting the game

[raven carbon]

Bc they took away mods?

[dawn cove]

because they took away mods yep

thats about 90% of the issue rn is mod users throwing a fit. the other 10% is legitimate problems with EAC integration as far as performance and stuff goes. but im pretty sure if you compare the numbers between pc users and quest users, the vast, vast majority of complaints will be from pc

[haughty coyote]

wait does waut not work on vrc

[devout basin]

there is a really good reason why we, the moding community are pissed about this.

[haughty coyote]

quest

[brisk tusk]

quest

As a questie

This is just positive. No more crashers. Same old client for me.

[dawn cove]

to be fair the existence of a modding community in the first place is against the terms of service

[brisk tusk]

As a modder, i can see why your angry. But also it has been against tos since day 1. Literally tells you mods aren't allowed when loading between worlds.

[dawn cove]

^^^^

[haughty coyote]

just yall know

vrc may not be the same ever again

[devout basin]

yeah the newly updated terms of service just to shut down the modding community

[dawn cove]

gets told you cant do a thing
"im doing it anyways!"
gets mad when you cant do thing anymore

[brisk tusk]

Old tos

[haughty coyote]

awhole shite ton user are leaveing and may have the game become dead

[dawn cove]

if newly updated includes launch sure

[brisk tusk]

They are just enforcing tos now.

[cold oak]

Honestly it seems like it has always been "PC-Chat"

[brisk tusk]

Nah, I'm good. I like the extra avis

[devout basin]

mods are really important for this game, stuff like disability access is nice to have in a vr game

[dawn cove]

like im not super against people making use of resources to add QoL to their favorite program. often times innovations in mods are what help build up the source as a whole. but vrc also has a right to do what they want to their program, up to and including enforcing the rules they installed day 1

[devout basin]

yet they dont have it

[brisk tusk]

Because live platforms ar hard to work on.

[dawn cove]

true! and theyve already said theyre working on additional accessability features! as well as suggesting mod feature integration! pays to read the patch notes

[brisk tusk]

It's not just drag and drop with modsfor one person

It's hundrends of different hardware combos

Drivers, back end servers

Things they have to link up, plus the extra strain it will take on their system.

While they can do more, it's not that easy to implement

[devout basin]

I agree, but we already had them in, one less thing the dev team had to work on

and the mods get updated all the time

[dawn cove]

this isnt the big issue. the fact everything has to be cross compatible and they have a secondary market powered almost entirely by third party vendors to protect is

[brisk tusk]

That to

[devout basin]

Here is my idea: why not implement a system where all the players using mods can only play with others that have mods.

[brisk tusk]

Plus with apples new VR headset and Samsung's. They probably have strict requirements for crossplay

[dawn cove]

segregation is always a really, really bad idea

[near spindle]

or to have an option to go in a version like that so questies can still play w their pc friends

[devout basin]

YES

[brisk tusk]

That's the issue. Questie are the majority market.

[dawn cove]

questies can already play with their pc friends? or do you mean pc only worlds

[devout basin]

exactly, this would fix everything

[dawn cove]

because pc only worlds isnt a client issue, its a hardware issue

the quest isnt a very powerful machine

[brisk tusk]

So it makes sense if they are catering to crossplay with the majority in mind. Lower end worlds and avis, simpler systems.

[dawn cove]

?

[brisk tusk]

Quest is the majority market. But PC is the big buck player.

[haughty coyote]

quest lives matter

Thats it .

[brisk tusk]

So, while they have good intentions , they are hurting the big investors on pc

People who have put a lot more into it just to play vrc

So it makes sense why the PC market isn't happy

[woven spade]

No Lives Matter
We are all equally worthless

[dawn cove]

well. catering part aside. the biggest thing is pc users throwing a fit over not being able to break tos as easily anymore. like thats 100% the biggest thing here

[devout basin]

plus, EAC is pretty easy to bypass for anyone that wants to do it. They didnt even chose a good AC LMAO

[woven spade]

You do realize that pc players just want accessibility mods right? Like i have a mute friend who can no longer play cause she doesn't have her text to speech mod anymore

[dawn cove]

if its that easy to bypass then just do it and stop complaining on public forums where you wont be heard by people that matter?

[tender sable]

Does this mean that VRC won't work with Link cable on PC?

[dawn cove]

90% sure theres ways to get around that by using the tts as an audio input device, though thats not my wheelhouse. dont need a mod to do that

[brisk tusk]

It does

[dawn cove]

its an issue with Virtual Desktops specifically. if you dont know what those are, then you wont have any issues

[tender sable]

I bought Link original cable to be able to play VRC on PC to have access to PC worlds. I haven't received it yet so I don't know what the last announcement means.

[dawn cove]

as i said. if you dont know what a virtual desktop is, then youre definitely not using one, and you wont have any issues

[tender sable]

Thank you 🙏

[devout basin]

EAC is more of a deterrent, its really easy to get around

[dawn cove]

@devout basin ECHO, Echo, echo, echo...

[harsh glade]

Honestly I'm sure everything will get better in the next few weeks/month

[dawn cove]

literally give it two weeks and 75% of the boycotting playerbase will be back

[harsh glade]

I'm more worried about all the crashing my friends headset was completely destroyed lmao

[dawn cove]

was? wdym?

[harsh glade]

I've been mostly avoiding publics myself

[harsh glade]

Like it won't turn on at all

[brisk tusk]

They already are back. Look at steam charts

It was 1 day of boycott

[dawn cove]

try factory reset?

[harsh glade]

He did sadly no avail

[brisk tusk]

Average player count through steam
22k

Current player count
19k

[dawn cove]

lol lmao

[brisk tusk]

Not much of a boycott, just mass hysteria

[dawn cove]

tl;dr, momentary chaos ensued when pc players had their mods taken away, its getting back to normal

ah

[brisk tusk]

That's a quest hardware issue, it happems sometimes. Follow the guide from meta on factory resets.

[dawn cove]

successive crashing probably meant that a power cable overheated and melted, it happens sometimes. especially since the quest itself isnt a particularly powerful system and it lacks decent cooling

[harsh glade]

I'll let him know thank you!

[dawn cove]

if yall cant get the factory reset to work and the warrantee is still in effect (if there is one) i suggest sending it in

[brisk tusk]

^^^

[devout basin]

the point of my comment is not to breach AC, I am saying that if they chose to make this dumbass decision, they should have went with the big guns instead of half assing it and going with EAC

[brisk tusk]

Because EAC is the median of ac,

[dawn cove]

to say it a third time, heres a quarter, tell someone that matters

[brisk tusk]

We are quests

This is update is nothing but positive for us

We get less crashes and people ruining games, no drops on frames. This is great

[dawn cove]

at the bare minimum at LEAST complain in a relevant chat

[devout basin]

what does that even mean?

[brisk tusk]

You are angry on an update. But complaining to people who only BENEFIT from the update.

[dawn cove]

it means if you seriously think a few dudes entirely unaffiliated with vrchat devs will listen or care for your complaints about a system outside the scope of the chat youre complaining in (in case you forgot this is the QUEST GENERAL btw) then you should probably seek professional help

[brisk tusk]

^^^

[devout basin]

"A few dudes" have you seen twitter and steam chart ratings? They are on fire rn

huge swaths of the community just left

[brisk tusk]

Have you seen the Hardware.

[dawn cove]

are we twitter and steam chart ratings. dude

[brisk tusk]

Nope

[dawn cove]

this is #quest-general please take your pc related issues elsewhere

[brisk tusk]

22k average before boycott

19k average after boycott
(PC players rn)

Just people review bombing and bandwagoning

Not much actual "canceling" going on.

Especially not in the quest community.

You know the other part of the 41k online rn

[haughty coyote]

This update bro

[devout basin]

ok, mb, just mass dislikes then

I dont actually know if they left or not, they just heavily dispise the way the game is going

[brisk tusk]

I get why PC is mad. It's just doxxing and raging isn't the proper way to go about this.

[dawn cove]

if you are having issues connecting your quest to your pc (i know ive never gotten mine to work proper), or you are having performance issues with your quest-pc link, great! this is a relevant discussion channel for your issues. but you dont.

[brisk tusk]

A well spoken(not cursing or spamming) everyone together with a similar message will help.

But reacting with toxicity will not makes the devs want to implement fixes any faster

[dawn cove]

itll make them less inclined to take you seriously

basically: grow up and act responsibly

:l

[autumn kayak]

LOL

yep

vrchat just a quest game now

[devout basin]

Also, EAC completely misses the mark with regard to stopping things like crashers from impacting the experience, since all of those are avatar based and therefore are unaffected by EAC.

[autumn kayak]

LOL hes gone, shows how this game doesn't care about their community

[dawn cove]

sigh

[brisk tusk]

He just doxxed aomeone

And your supporting him?

[autumn kayak]

no it wasnt real lmao it was in the middle of the ocean

HAHAH

[brisk tusk]

Tupper already got copypasta doxxed multiple times.

And you still supporting it.

[autumn kayak]

Yeah, years ago

[dawn cove]

spoken by someone who truly has no idea how IP addresses work

[autumn kayak]

spoken by someone who searched up the ip

[dawn cove]

you do know ips are randomized on a regular basis right

[autumn kayak]

this is a petty way of throwing this shit away

[dawn cove]

theres... also the dastardly ipv6

[brisk tusk]

Aki, you actively supporting doxxing, because a game designed around talking, won't let you crash other players?

[autumn kayak]

i dont crash people

[dawn cove]

a scary version of the ipv4 the majority are so familiar with

[autumn kayak]

im deaf and need hearing aids, i used tts and vrc-cc

well partially deaf

[brisk tusk]

Just set a tts on your PC, and setup the .exe outupt as your microphone input.

Done. Problem solved.

[autumn kayak]

the cc?

[dawn cove]

is it actually that simple? i knew tts was fairly easy to set up but not that easy

[autumn kayak]

there was a complete better way to fix this

like a subscription that allows injectins

[brisk tusk]

You still need a software to do itm but there are hundreds of you just google it.

[dawn cove]

or. you just give them a little time. as they said already if you read the patch notes and announcements earlier today

[brisk tusk]

^^^^

[autumn kayak]

I read that they aren't reverting it?

[brisk tusk]

The amount of people that didn't read.

[autumn kayak]

I read the website that they are no whitelisted mods

[brisk tusk]

It literally says this is only being implemented because of "Malicious Modders"

[autumn kayak]

is there sumthn new

[dawn cove]

they have no reason to. literally less than 0 reason to revert their safety patch. BUT. if you read a little deeper into it, they are working on accessability features as well as suggesting the integration of mod features. the latter being a not so rare practice

[autumn kayak]

i don

[brisk tusk]

^^^

[autumn kayak]

i dont thinkthey shouldve done this without adding their accesories first

[dawn cove]

EAC is a quick and easy fix to a tos-related problem thats been around so long it formed several communities

that the fully integrated features need time to be, well, fully integrated needs time

[autumn kayak]

quick easy throw away fix, and if its not temporary to an easier fix,. its terrible

not easier, better

my bad

[dawn cove]

dont forget mods were always against terms of service

as in modding ones client has always been a bannable offense

and theyre not even issuing bans for EAC blocks, you just bounce right off

if that isnt a sign of respect for the amount of work that went into the QoL mods yall wont shut up about in the QUEST discussion channels (yes im salty pls just give us our space for christ sake) and how important the individual users are to the platform, i dont know what is

because everyone is too busy flaming the devs, they arent seeing that the devs are trying to make vrc a better platform, an act that takes a lot of time and resources, and theyre giving you guys a lot of patience that many smaller companies wouldnt

[granite yew]

eats popcorn this stuff bussin for reals dudes.

[river hedge]

Wait, so we can't connect our oculus to a computer and play VRChat through the oculous app/steam app (it shows it runs on both for me) anymore!?

[vale narwhal]

you can do oculus and steam but i don't think you can connect via virtual desktop as it has a .dll file that eac will read as no bueno

[river hedge]

oh okay

[river hedge]

you never know when that can happen, who knows how many people this affected.

[orchid schooner]

Day 2 and main chat still going ape shit

[vale narwhal]

When that everyone announcement was made it was bonkers 💀

[orchid schooner]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1S_OuK-hXxw

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lyric dock]

There are 33530 users in VRChat currently

[hushed yoke]

Did anyone else just break rn???

Cause everything is black for me avis, instances, friends,

Here is more calmer very nice

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 31087 users in VRChat currently

[cyan cobalt]

wait what issues with virtual desktop?

[hushed yoke]

[kind panther]

31k

[unborn nova]

ah

[unborn nova]

👍

[tough robin]

Harder daddy

[orchid schooner]

Problem is if people unsubscribe from their main source of income your just making the problem worse as they can't pay they're staff so they can't resolve the issues at hand

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[candid apex]

They have a little less than a 100mill from investors… trust me they can pay there employees

Not to mention they are a for profit company

[narrow bane]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 26715 users in VRChat currently

[alpine condor]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 26489 users in VRChat currently

[alpine condor]

@worldly wedge

So many people are gone from vrchat

[worldly wedge]

Oh

[alpine condor]

More then half

[alpine condor]

There were 61k people

Online

[worldly wedge]

I doubt the devs give a fuck tbh

[alpine condor]

One of them are talking in general

[worldly wedge]

Bet they’re getting bashed

[alpine condor]

Some got doxxed

From what I heard

Why are stickers now on?

[worldly wedge]

Some of the devs got doxxed?

[alpine condor]

Yeah

[worldly wedge]

Karma

[empty drift]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 26428 users in VRChat currently

[alpine condor]

Yikes

[worldly wedge]

Geez

[alpine condor]

Insert feels bad meme

[worldly wedge]

I wonder if this will make the devs re think their dumb fucking choice with the update, it’s obviously too late but wonder if they’ll try fix it to get everyone back

[unborn grotto]

you do realize that these are typical numbers for this time of the day when NA is asleep, EU is still at work, and Asia are just getting off work right?

[alpine condor]

Oh well

[worldly wedge]

Regardless the numbers ain’t too good

Don’t think they’re gonna get many people playing anymore

[bitter crest]

They won't try to get everyone back,as long as the quest users have the ability to play they don't care as it's the majority

[worldly wedge]

Yea I’m pretty sure they don’t give a fuck about everyone else

[bitter crest]

Steam

[worldly wedge]

Geez

[alpine condor]

That’s when the update dropped

[bitter crest]

I feel bad for the PC users rn though

It really sucks because they ahve spent sm money to play this damn game and being tossed to the side

[alpine condor]

I mostly feel bad for the people that actually need to use mods to actually play vrc

[bitter crest]

Yeah

[worldly wedge]

@alpine condor and me are quest but I honestly don’t think we’d be playing much of it anymore given what’s happened

[bitter crest]

I took this from the player help thing

[alpine condor]

Like people that can’t hear

[bitter crest]

But this one person in the server

[narrow bane]

!online

[alpine condor]

I know other ideas of playing m o m

[lyric dock]

There are 26175 users in VRChat currently

[bitter crest]

Epilepsy, deafness and other accessibility mods

[alpine condor]

Yep there

[bitter crest]

The mods for content creators have been tanked

[worldly wedge]

Pretty much

[alpine condor]

Man of madame.*

I am actually gonna ask them

[bitter crest]

It pretty much affects everyone as in quest players since most of the worlds are made by pc users

movie and music worlds are broken rn too

[alpine condor]

Hm

Well they got back to me now

They’re gonna be added

But should of added the stuff before the update happened

[worldly wedge]

I honestly doubt they will add the required stuff for people who actually need mods

[haughty coyote]

Ong, I don't care if the features are being added though, they literally just need to revert this update, and get rid of all of the crashing mods and shit

Im only here because the slow mode and everything else is so damn high for no reason

[alpine condor]

2 minutes

[worldly wedge]

Coz most people went crazy

[bitter crest]

It would be easiest if they reroll the update after the exploits in the code can be found

[worldly wedge]

Agreed

[haughty coyote]

Fair

[alpine condor]

Facts

[haughty coyote]

Yeah, but people should still be able to voice their opinions, and it literally just tanked general and general 2 because it's a dead server now everybody's left it

Noone chats in a server with a 2-minute cool down in general

[worldly wedge]

Never said they couldn’t, I’ve been doing the same here

[haughty coyote]

At that point just find a new one

[bitter crest]

Yeah

[alpine condor]

Well well

[worldly wedge]

Most people here are PC users so they’d obviously be in the main general chat

[haughty coyote]

I seriously don't get why you would put a 2 minute cool down though, 10 seconds even would be enough

[bitter crest]

So many messages were going through even on 2 min chill down

[alpine condor]

It went up higher when everyone was screaming

[bitter crest]

The game devs have fucked every user over

[worldly wedge]

The devs have fucked themselves over too

[bitter crest]

Yep

[alpine condor]

Alright I’m getting on console better see you there

Jk get on when you can

[worldly wedge]

What we playin?

[bitter crest]

Without the highest paying users in the game the rev is gonna tank

[alpine condor]

Mom

[worldly wedge]

Hoping for either zombies or some Vic roys

[alpine condor]

That can be tooken so out of context

[worldly wedge]

Ah all good 😌

[alpine condor]

I don’t even feel like playing vrchat this week honestly

[worldly wedge]

Understandable lil homie

Pretty sure Rain ain’t gonna want to play either when she finds out

[alpine condor]

Yeah if she haven’t already heard

[worldly wedge]

She hasn’t

I didn’t tell her

[alpine condor]

It took my tiktok

[worldly wedge]

She might wanna play it just for cuddles

[alpine condor]

Understandable

[worldly wedge]

Probably that’s it now

What?

[alpine condor]

Wat

[worldly wedge]

Fuck you VRchat bot

[alpine condor]

Alright see you on if you get on

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 25858 users in VRChat currently

[worldly wedge]

I’m hopping on now

[alpine condor]

Yikes

[bitter crest]

It's this in total or-?

[alpine condor]

Yep

[alpine condor]

On now

[worldly wedge]

Yea

[pseudo widget]

I can't boot up vrchat, any solutions?

[bitter crest]

None, vr fucked everyone over

[pseudo widget]

Thats a bummer

I was hoping for a solution

Thank you for answering my question tho

[vast lintel]

None of the videos now work on quest in the lsmedia or movie and chill worlds on quest standalone. Anything I can do without having to hook up PCVR?

[bitter crest]

Nope

[pseudo widget]

sigh
Im not getting a pc for quite a while, too expensive and not enough space

Im not going to see friends for a very long time 😔

[honest abyss]

Eh it's typically slower hours rn regardless of drama

[honest abyss]

Wait don't give up just that quick, people are up in arms rn. So what's the problem so you click on vrchat and it just doesn't boot or? Also quest 1 or 2

[brazen nova]

is it tru thats there a new mod?

[burnt wren]

...well then

[limber merlin]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 28309 users in VRChat currently

[haughty coyote]

movies are gone.

[red panther]

huh

[burnt wren]

The amount People in murder 4 have gone down a lotttt

Kinda worried they said hackers now go into priv instances and stuff ;-;

[limpid crane]

I tested it out and it works both wired and standalone

virtual desktop doesn't not work though

[honest abyss]

What I'm using virtual desktop rn

Bruh.

[honest abyss]

They can't don't worry, people are just trying to fear monger

[burnt wren]

thank you

[honest abyss]

No problem

[proper gyro]

Try restarting vr idk maybe uninstall vrc and reinstall unless your on an oculus acc do it if you made a vrc acc idk tho

[wild fable]

I think you gotta use the steam version on vr desktop

[honest abyss]

Yea, but frankly you should be already because the oculus software is uh. Kinda resource hungry

[alpine condor]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 31182 users in VRChat currently

[keen arch]

virtual desktop works if your start vrc of steam and ovrtool kid works space calibrator works and also ovr advanced settings works

[keen coral]

hey everyone and also to the dev team

[static flame]

So I’m a little slow here if you are using virtual desktop through quest app will it work or do you have to use the virtual desktop on steam?

[wary anvil]

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 37128 users in VRChat currently

[visual kayak]

U have to use steam now

[static flame]

Okay thank you!

[molten panther]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/891909760708927537/1001806374684065812/download_12.mp4

!online

[lyric dock]

There are 37849 users in VRChat currently

[inner sun]

Lmao this is kinda funny how they just rekt their own game smh rip vrchat

[visual kayak]

They didn’t reck there own game

[inner sun]

I mean the clients were fun I thought they were funny I used one my self when I was on pc

[visual kayak]

People are just mad at quitting because they added a feature that removed the use of mods (which was not an intended feature of the game) and I mean while mods are fun and all the devs can take them away if they want cause it’s there game and people are raging over it

Mods change the games script if I’m remembering correctly so it’s altering the game in a way the developers don’t want it to. I’m sure they will try to add more features mods had to try to regain players but at this moment it doesn’t matter what people say or do I doubt they will recall this update

[sterile prairie]

Hi

[inner sun]

I 100% understand, I mean even if they add this some people can fine their ways around things

Hello

[visual kayak]

Hiya! ^-^

[visual kayak]

Of course! 😅 Malicious client devs probably just see this as a challenge. So I’m sure someone will still manage to bypass eventually. But cmon! Vanilla vrchat isn’t so bad, I mean quest users play on it all the time and they are ok. I get it maybe if u had a mod for cc if you were deaf or HoH but other than stuff like that I mean cmon… just play the game like the devs intended on it, it’s only fair.

[lethal vapor]

Most of the people didnt even use mods for crashing

bcs thats their main issue

[haughty coyote]

Removal of mods killed vr char