avatar-quest

[delicate quail]

isn't gonna work for avatars

[iron zealot]

rip

[nocturne sundial]

small question, i set all my mats up vrc toon lite, one is purple still ingame but fine in unity

lemme try making it matcap lit

i made a fresh new material and it worked

strange

[pastel storm]

Hello

I was looking to know if anyone chould make an Irish republican army avatar

Is it possible for someone to make it

[magic slate]

it is certainly possible. But if you're looking to commission someone, go to the VRC Traders discord, link is in #1204490664637890580 .
You'll only get scammers around here

[dense goblet]

Hey y'all! Got a question. I have a chair attached with a world constraint on my avi, but it's set to appear a bit to the left of where I'm actually standing ('Cause of the animation) and the problem is, when Quest players unload the chair, and then it loads back in, the animation re-plays and it's too far to the left, and desynced. Any way I can fix that??

[misty phoenix]

Hi a problem between my PC and Quest avis has started happening recently. When i enable an asset from my quick menu on PC, it works normally, but Quest users see them differently. For example, I enable a hoodie on my PC side, but people on quest will see a different asset pop up like a sword in my hand. What can i do to fix this?

[delicate quail]

i think the positions are synced, so if the hoodie is in the same spot in the menu as the sword that's going to happen

i'd check if that's the case

[misty phoenix]

the hoodie is in a different submenu than the sword, if thats what you mean

i heard that the parameters are the problem, but they are the same between my PC and Quest Avi

and this problem didnt happen until recently, when i added a new asset

Well i have a different question now. Can i somehow see both of my Avis in Unity so i can troubleshoot the menu between them (aka the sync problem?)

[dense goblet]

I mean you can open both Unity windows at once, if you can run it. That's how I went through item by item of my PC and Quest versions

[magic slate]

if you have them in the same project and different scenes (my preference), you can open a second scene at the same time

[hasty flare]

can someone help me, i cant seem to figure out whats taking so much of my mb's.. (i need 10 mb for quest conversion)

[magic slate]

this is probably useful right now: #avatar-optimization message

[hasty flare]

how so

pls help

[magic slate]

use that tool to find out what takes up space

[hasty flare]

bruh

i already have a tool

i cant delete anything in this

it says this

[magic slate]

The history in this channel is very useful. But if your mesh object is what's taking up space, you'll need to reduce its size somehow. Removing unused blendshapes, decreasing the amount of polys, etc.

also don't embed materials and textures in it

[hasty flare]

if im not using a asset

in this folder

why am i not able to delete it 😭 .

[magic slate]

It looks like you've opened up the FBX file itself, you can't delete things from that in Unity

[hasty flare]

'_'

ok

well

how to remove unused blendshapes

[magic slate]

I delete them in Blender, but I think VRC Quest Tools can do that

[hasty flare]

ok i did that

decresing amount of polys?

[magic slate]

mesh takes up space

[hasty flare]

ik how to lower

how do i lower mesh

[delicate quail]

merge them in blender

[shell ridge]

It's been some months since I don't upload a quest avatar, just want to know, there's still no transparency and a workaround for culling for quest/android avatars?

[delicate quail]

Nope

I mean, you could get around culling by doubling polygon count

but I wouldn't recommend it xd

I only do it when absolutely necessary

aka, I sometimes double the skirt mesh and flip normals on it

but not often

[shell ridge]

Damn, that sucks

Ty

[robust whale]

transparency these are your options:

• fake with inverted normals
• fake by implying it (like for a window just don't have anything in the glass, and/or add modeled highlights)
• use vrchat/mobile/particles/additive
• use vrchat/mobile/particles/multiply
• combine both of the above shaders by making sure your transparent material is the lowest on the material list, add a new material then use multiply on the top one and additive on the bottom. If you want cutout transparency, make a mask texture for the multiply material that has the opaque areas as black and transparent areas as transparent

[bronze hawk]

im making an avatar and when i load into the game, the back hair, top, the fishnets, and the pants arent attached to me

i tried moving the armature into where i think it went but that didnt work

[delicate quail]

why not attach it in blender? /gen

it will give you less meshes too, which is nicer on quest

[bronze hawk]

i have 0 clue how to use blender

not even sure if my laptop can run that and unity

[formal crystal]

Depends what laptop your using

[formal crystal]

That wont work to my calculations

or search it on google if its compatible it unity and blender

[bronze hawk]

Even if I did get it, idek how to use blender so I'd most likely break somthing

[formal crystal]

Go on Youtube

[delicate quail]

it's very easy, if the clothes are made for your body it's three clicks and done

[formal crystal]

Its not simple

U need a big brain

[delicate quail]

how is it not?

[formal crystal]

Its not simple to create a avatar

[delicate quail]

I'm talking about attaching clothes

[formal crystal]

But since i only UPLOAD its easier

also with clothing

bc its hard to get the clothing stuff sorted

[delicate quail]

if the clothes are made specifically for that body it's easy

1. import body and clothes
2. go to cats merging
3. click merge

how is that hard?

In my opinion that's way easier than attaching clothes in unity with moving the bones and everything

[formal crystal]

Im talking about if you want to remove bc my sidebar on usnity is basically "ndhqefhewhfhafdhfhe"

[kindred fractal]

Huh

[formal crystal]

But if u dont want to remove its alr

[delicate quail]

I have no idea what you're talking about

I'm just trying to give advice xd

[formal crystal]

Yeah me to mate we both on the same page pal

[delicate quail]

huh

[delicate quail]

besides blender is free, you can always try it and if it doesn't work go back to unity

[finite hazel]

Hii

I need help

[dusky gate]

you should probably say what you need help with instead of just saying you need help. people will be more likely to reply

[eager venture]

Good Evening/morning gamers. I'm new to the whole vr thing but i've always heard about VR chat. How does one import an avatar to le quest?

[bronze hawk]

get the avatar file

open in unity

do what you want to it like adding retrextures or toggles n junk, then upload to windows, then switch the build thingy to android

i only know the basics so if you want an indepth tutorial ask someone or watch a video

[frozen marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0Zu3PeLUWE

[torn moon]

new fuujin walkthrough tutorial drop?

[kindred zealot]

how do i make avatar seats/stations on quest

[robust whale]

same as pc, just remove the box collider before upload

[frozen marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7KeQTQde0A

Here is a PC video

[magic slate]

wow you have a lot of these, very nice

whoa a nixie clock watch!

I modeled a whole nixie clock recently

[frozen marsh]

Nice

[magic slate]

this is nice work

[frozen marsh]

Thanks

[magic slate]

off topic but whatever, and forgive the harsh lighting, it's in a test scene

[frozen marsh]

nice, little emission and it's lit

[magic slate]

yep!

I have a little pile of tubes IRL that I have been meaning to make into a clock for like 15 years, one of these days I'll do it

[steady idol]

Needs copper

Idk what like maybe piping or something

[magic slate]

not sure where though

this is what it would look like IRL

[uneven mulch]

Hi I purchased an avatar from a creator. It uploaded to pc just fine, but when I tried to upload it to quest it says the file is too big. It jumps from 10.11 to 10.8 every time I try to upload it. Im not sure how to make it smaller and still basically keep it the way it is since it's already been converted. Help?

[magic slate]

#quest-optimization is best, but you can try to reduce texture sizes. if not that, perhaps vrc quest tools can help

[frozen marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUeoWKNO6Tw

[civic escarp]

hewwo try d4rks avatar optimizer

it’ll probs help knock out that .8 mb

[devout badge]

so i went into the help channel and it was no dice on what a solution is

anyone willin to help a homie our

[magic slate]

install gogo loco into your project

[devout badge]

i did

thats why we confused

[night turret]

hi kazin

[magic slate]

ok then re-install it, it says there's missing stuff

[delicate quail]

everything is there

and they already reinstalled

[magic slate]

try the vrc fury discord then, not sure why the error message says those files don't exist if they actually do.

[night turret]

sometimes vrcf is a liar

[delicate quail]

you could try, but they may refuse help since their rule 1 is only first party support and you're having trouble with a bought avatar. But you could just not tell them that

[devout badge]

ill try reinstalling and going through it a third time

vc stream is an option if anyone down

[delicate quail]

i don't think we'll learn anything more from that

you already explained everything

[kindred zealot]

Change some texture sizes

Change some texture sizes

[lean kelp]

Hey does anybody have a a Nanotech Iron Man 85 avatar?

[simple scroll]

#1138520828556890214

[lean kelp]

I’m on a quest account

[arctic slate]

Still not the right channel to ask in so you'd need to make a post if you want someone to try and find you that model, make a vrchat account and merge it to your quest one or you could just search the avatar names that'd be provided in the links of you post in a search world

[empty oar]

Heyo, here again for avatar help. I just recently finished this avatar for quest and pc and i had tested the view on quest and this bleeding on the the clothing is happening only on quest. Is anyone familiar with this?

Normal up close and bleeding far away

[dim cove]

probably vertex colors

[eager gull]

anyone know where I can get Demon Slayer Particles from?

I been looking for one for awhile but I cant find one

[mighty stag]

Hello, I have a quick question, is it easy to convert a booth model into quest?

• That works well with the toggles of the PC version.

[arctic slate]

with all the toggles? no generally not

booth models are made to look pretty in the majority of cases rather then being optimized

theres also alot of PC only things that their add-on gimmicks tend to use iirc

[mighty stag]

Is it possible to make a simple one then make an quest variant of it?

[arctic slate]

a simpler quest version?

[mighty stag]

Oh like a PC Variant booth model with 2 clothes, 2 hairs, then convert it to quest?

[arctic slate]

depending on what the base models setup is and how you added any additions on then maybe, if the original unedited version of the model includes like 5 outfits then it'd be a bit harder and you'd need to edit in blender (or if it just has alot of seperate meshes,materials,texture swaps etc) or if you're adding clothing stuff with Modularavatar/VRCfury then you'd need to figure out how to add it to your model manually and likely repair the animations used

w/o an idea on what you'd be working with its kinda hard to tell

[mighty stag]

Ohhh, I was just planning on making an custom comfy booth model personal yk, with PCSS and things like that, but it won't be too grand, just a couple clothes and hairs, but I never made an quest version avatar before so Idk how will that go XDD

[arctic slate]

you can see the Quest's limits here:https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-performance-ranking-system/#mobile-limits but generally adding multiple outfits/hairs/swaps doesnt turn out looking too good (because of how limited you have to be) and is quite performance heavy, aiming for medium at the worst should be the goal especially if you plan on being around alot of questies (though most users dont care sadly)

if its just going to be a private model and you're not gonna use it in publics alot you could decide on either keeping a hair or outfit swap (1-2) without any material swap options and use some major texture atlasing and material merging so that you're at the poor rank, and im not too sure what PCSS is but if its this:https://booth.pm/ja/items/4493526 then that wont work for questies because of its light source and i think custom shader requirement?

[mighty stag]

All of these are so helpful! I'll put this into my notes, and keep it in mind when I start working on my project, thank you so much for thoroughly explaining and giving resources! Thank you!

[arctic slate]

Glad to help as much as i could, hopefully someone else here who works with booth stuff more can give some better insight

[wooden fable]

Making a booth avi into quest can suck mostly because of tri count if youre trying to optimize down to medium. But the most annoying thing is material atlasing and dealing with special effects like blush. A lot of booth avis have insane material counts. You might need to sacrifice any special effects since they dont have transparency on quest. Definitely keep high impact toggles to a minimum

[torn moon]

honestly, as long as it can upload then its fine, quest avis are mainly hidden and kept like that usually anyway

if its a private then not so much of a stress as long as u arent lagging ur own self

not ideal at all or best practice, but thats the most realistic tbh

[wooden fable]

But that sucks for quest users. Why not make an effort to optimize the avatar for the majority of the playerbase than just upload one that will be blocked by default?

[torn moon]

yeah thats why i said not ideal or best practice

but thats what the most realistic

worlds are so bad anyway, that most the time u cant even have many avis on anyway (even on pc)

[wooden fable]

Realistically if someone is making an avatar that they plan to sell then they have the skills to optimize it. If youre selling a product it should be quality

[torn moon]

im referring to personals

creators are a whole different topic

those are made for mass, personals arent

[wooden fable]

Oh my bad, I thought that person was making an avi to sell

Looks like I misread it

Either way I think the extra effort is worth it

[torn moon]

for personal ehh idk, it depends more if the person is even in publics

kinda on a person by person basis

i optimize my personals to green tho cause of events i may attend (but im in private instances 99% of the time)

and to counter any possible very poor avis, i made my own fallback/excellent rank avi to sell, so kinda pemdas for doing my part

[wooden fable]

I optimize all of my avis to have medium on quest. I wanted to do a fallback version but I gave up on it. Honestly I should give it another shot.

Hopefully with that optimizer in the SDK that was teased this will be easier for people who dont have the time or skills to optimize

[delicate quail]

I try to optimize most of mine for quest medium. Doesn't always work out though

[torn moon]

ehhhh the best way would be repacking islands, most unity atlasing tools are genuinely bad for texture memory, especially for anything that needs masks

but to get tris down very low, would def need some manual work for sure, but theres some tools like polytool and lodmantis that decimate pretty well imo if u need some fast results

[serene marsh]

Genuinely there is NO reason for quest to be this nerfed dawg, phys bone count, constraint limits, contact limits, the uncompressed size limit even existing, the 10 MB build limit, I'm very good at optimization and have been making avatars for 2 1/2 years now and I know I'm yellin at a brick wall because the vrchat devs won't take criticism (thank you any keyboard warrior that proves me wrong) but being a quest avatar creator in 2025 is just so cancerous

[steady idol]

I dont see how you are having such a problem when my pc avatars are under quest limits

[arctic slate]

yeah getting something under 10mb is pretty easy if you're not adding an OD amount of toggles. the size limit will eventually go up if you really arent able to get your content to work with Android (for some reason) once the current quest headsets are no longer supported and their newer ones become the norm but thats quite a long ways away likely a few years from now

[serene marsh]

Incredibly unfortunate, cause again normally I don’t have issues with optimization, yes it’s a bunch of logic less limits that they put on quest but I still have no problem, I’m making a goku avatar and it has 300k polygons, less than 20 materials, most of the textures are 128x128 except for two that are 512x512, it’s bad that besides the mesh itself gogo loco takes up the most space on that avatar, it’s just the 40mb uncompressed limit really isn’t needed, even a 500k mesh prolly won’t lag you but we just can’t fit it on quest for fun ig

And it also really sucks that we need to wait for better hardware to come out for us to get upgrades seeing as they’ve just continuously nerfed quest over and over again, people who use bloodborne and had premium could upload avatars that far surpassed the 10mb limit and those avatars never had any performance issues

[kindred fractal]

You can compress gogo menu icons to like 32x32 btw lol

And people shouldn’t be using bloodborne since modded SDKs are against VRChat TOS

just get better

The main problem with stuff like that is it’s pushing performance to its limits. We’re better off with what we have, and I can say in all honesty that I crash much less now with these new constraints

[arctic slate]

people who used those modded SDKs to upload bypassed the limits had plenty of performance issues because they were generally made to be crashers/laggers thats literally the original reason that the majority of those modified SDKs existed/exist, the limits have been tested pretty thoroughly and are deemed to be the best performance wise ofc they seem unessecary for every scenario ( especially for just private worlds dwellers or having all avatars hidden all the time )

[dim cove]

the limits are there for a reason 🤷🏻‍♂️
so trying to break them is pretty stupid

[arctic slate]

exactly

also 300k polys, almost 20 mats is kinda OD for a PC avatar let alone a quest model lmao

id say just make the current avatar into multiple models with like 1-2 of those toggles per avatar

[torn moon]

^^^ 300k is wayyy too high for quest

quest limits are perfectly fine as is, just dissolve/decimate ur meshes

lower ur matcounts, lower youre resolutions

[delicate quail]

"but... but... it's gonna be ugly if I do that"

that's something I heard before regarding quest limits

[torn moon]

remove unused blendshapes, unused UVs, etc

[delicate quail]

and it's not true at all xd just be smart about how you do it

[torn moon]

quest doesnt look bad cause limits, its cause it relies heavy on textures which people dont bother to learn

u can have baked looking textures just from exporting 2D view from substance, that alone can make ur models look 1000x better

dont even need normals at all to look decent

use mirrored UVs to crunch resolutions while have it still look sharp

if ur hitting the quest limits or even pushing near it, then u need to re-evaluate your model or your workflow

quest can have hsv radials, tiling, detail masks, 2 UV maps, and constraints even

it has alot honestly

[kindred fractal]

I mean, its totally possible to make a model 300k and upload to quest, but def wouldn’t advise it if you can avoid it

[delicate quail]

it would be very laggy

[kindred fractal]

It isn’t pleasant at all

Can say that as a questie. When you turn on multiple avis too it gets worse

[delicate quail]

Yeah

[kindred fractal]

Deleting meshes under clothes or dissolving edges goes a long way

[delicate quail]

i once turned on an avatar and it was so bad I crashed xd

yup

[kindred fractal]

I’ve brought avis down by well over 100k tris

[kindred fractal]

REAL

[magic slate]

haha arguing about limitations while at 300k

[kindred fractal]

Yeh no just doesn’t make sense

Could even just delete some small high poly stuff by either going into blender to see the stats for the meshes or importing this one tool (cant remember the name)

It basically tells you what’s the most high poly upon build

And then going off of that you can delete or optimize stuff

[torn moon]

when i test on quest i lag just being in a world alone, quest worlds are so bad 😞

[kindred fractal]

People honestly don’t put in the effort to make them compatible a lot of the time and it’s sad :’)

[torn moon]

i wish thered be more emphasis on world optimization

[kindred fractal]

I’ll join some and it’ll crash me or my screen will go black when I turn certain angles

[kindred fractal]

Srsly

[delicate quail]

I hate it the most when the world is fine

but not the spawn

so I need to lag and run out of there as fast as I can xd

[kindred fractal]

REAL

or you have to look down and that’s the only thing that stops the lag

[delicate quail]

YES

the constant look down 😆

[robust whale]

avatars that far surpassed the 10mb limit and those avatars never had any performance issues
they absolutely did, many of them would crash me almost immediately, if not then my framerate would significantly decrease and I couldn't load any more avatars. They ate up all of the precious memory on my quest

[delicate quail]

yup, same here

[magic slate]

yep

[dim cove]

it seems like people make their avatars quest compatible at this point just so that other people can see them (even tho impostors are a thing now) and they don't care to optimize their avatar

i understand wanting quest users to be able to see your avatar but please just make an attempt to optimize the quest version 😅

[robust whale]

the biggest issue tbh is that it is hard to optimize avatars that aren't built from scratch, especially as a beginner. A lot of those people will purchase avatars, and all the purchasable avatars are so unoptimized just for the sake of "looking good". The eboy/egirl type avatars are especially bad, with them often being unoptimized messes of a kitbash of popular parts.. If you can't optimize your assets, you shouldn't be selling them. There are too many sellers flooding the market with horrible assets that happen to look good, and it's causing beginners to get frustrated with optimization and think that type of performance is okay just because it's typical and "everyone else does it"

[dim cove]

the problem with "everyone else does it" type of mindset is that it'll make it worse since more people will not optimize their stuff
it's like the bystander effect

[robust whale]

yes exactly. There's also a good amount of people who think that if you're able to see an individual polygon or pixel then your avatar is "low quality"

they want everything to be perfectly smooth

[delicate quail]

people don't bother. Why would you optimize something if it doesn't make you lag? Avatars also sell better if they're "quest compatible"

[robust whale]

lol there's so many "quest compatible" avatars that don't even upload to quest because they're over the filesize limits

[dim cove]

most of them are probably older

[delicate quail]

yeahh

most of them were probably a 00,01 mb under the limit anyways 😆

[dim cove]

lol

[robust whale]

the filesize limits have existed on the SDK side for a lonnng time... if they went over the limits and were able to upload them, then they're using a modded SDK, which not only means they're personally breaking TOS but it's incredibly irresponsible because they're selling a product under false pretenses (that it's able to be uploaded to quest with the regular SDK)

I think a lot of the creators don't even bother to test upload them on quest, they just make sure that all the components are quest-compatible and within the limits, but never check the filesize

[dim cove]

yeah i was refering to avatars sold before the new restrictions update

[robust whale]

it's not new though, at least on the SDK side

it was only recently enforced server-side, but if you were able to get it onto the server in the first place, you'd had to have used a modded SDK or the SDK must have had a bug

[dim cove]

maybe time just moves faster for me 😂
i think it came out last year?

[robust whale]

unless you're talking about PC limits, afaik the Quest limits have been enforced by the SDK at 10mb compressed and 40mb uncompressed at least since I started making avatars which was about 2.5 years ago

what they've done recently was halve the PC limits and enforce both limits server-side; previously they'd only been checked by the SDK so you could bypass it with a modded SDK

now if you're able to upload the avatar with a modded SDK, it gets flagged by the servers and shows as an error bot in-game

[dim cove]

ohhhh

apologies im a bit slow haha

[vale flint]

Can anyone help my friend sent me the link to put my new avitar he uploaded for me on to my vr chat wen I click link it does this on laptop n phone

[delicate quail]

is it a private? Maybe it's not showing up cause it's a private

and that's why we upload avatars ourselves~~

[vale flint]

I don't know ??

What do I do i don't know anything about it so he does it for me

[delicate quail]

well, that's something your friend had to figure out than

nothing you can do cause you don't have access to the avatar

[vale flint]

What do I say

[delicate quail]

"Did you upload it as a private or a public?"

just say the link doesn't work

if your friend is your friend they will fix it

if not, you'll need to upload it yourself

[vale flint]

Okk

Is it hard to upload myself

[delicate quail]

not at all if you have the files and a pc

or laptop

[jade narwhal]

what would be the best quest shader for a panosphere? i tried matcap lit but it looks a bit wonky

i could probably edit the texture but i wanna weigh my options

[vale flint]

I have laptop yep

Whatcdo I need unity ??

[delicate quail]

creator companion and unity

unity 2022.3.22f1

[vale flint]

Ok

[worldly scarab]

hey i was wondering if anyone can help me get the collision and grab interaction animations visable on quest for the novabeast? i would love to have my nova move around like all the other nova models instead of like a solid rock.

[pastel storm]

Uh when I upload my avatar it dosent show up

In my favorites

Nothing happened after clicking build and publish

Something pops up, load bar then its gone

Do I just need to wait? idfk

[night turret]

it doesnt show up in favorites, it has a separate tab

if it doesnt show up at all, it probably didnt finish bc of an error in unity

[night turret]

did you only try once?

bc if thats the case, it didnt upload bc it had a blueprint that wasnt yours

[languid viper]

oh wait oops thats not what this channel is for

[calm whale]

can anyone help me upload quest ava?

please?

[delicate quail]

first upload the pc one

copy the id

and attach it to the quest one

and upload the quest avatar with the platform set to android

do you need screenshots?

I'll put them here just in case. PC ⬇️

Quest ⬇️

[calm whale]

It keeps snowing me asking me to save it in a apk file

Show me and asking*

[delicate quail]

so save it?

[calm whale]

It's still not working

[delicate quail]

can you screenshot what errors you're getting

?

[simple scroll]

?tag scam

[tough atlas]

Hey ho 👋 I see you're looking for commissions.

You will probably receive DM's or friend requests from scammers now (or later) that will try to offer you their services. 😖

🚫 Absolutely DO NOT engage with those, regardless of how competent they might seem or their excuse to why they contact you.
This is unsafe practice used by scammers, and also breaks this Discord's rules. 👮

If you seek a creator, check out VRCTraders and follow their protocols strictly 🥺

🌠 It's extremely important to always DEEPLY investigate the account and social media of the person you plan to commission.
Is their social media linked in Discord? Is it legitimate? Are the references stolen? (Try to reverse image search posts to check.) 👀
The quality of fake profiles out there can be crazy good, be aware of that and NEVER engage with DM or friend requests that originate from the artist.

When in the slightest doubt, do not commission them and contact the moderators of the involved communities. 😱

[slow flame]

i just joined this server also i dont scam-

i legit joined like 5 minutes ago

i just asked a question

[simple scroll]

You get scam, not you are scammer.

[slow flame]

oh

[simple scroll]

also....free comission be expensive than paid comission.....as they may just send you illegal models and you get banned at end.

[slow flame]

i dont have money for paid commisions

[simple scroll]

not much people do for public at least.....as far as I know.

then do yourself

[delicate quail]

learn how to make your own than

[slow flame]

i have no blender model expierence

[delicate quail]

neither did i when i started

[magic slate]

that can be learned

[slow flame]

i dont even know how to use blender

[simple scroll]

everyone be no has experience at first place.

[delicate quail]

people won't make you a free avatar

[slow flame]

my brain does not comprehend blender

believe me ive tryed

[delicate quail]

than be stuck with till you have more money

[slow flame]

i have no money not even a dollar-

[delicate quail]

so learn blender

people won't give you stuff for free like that

[slow flame]

i just said my brain cant comprehend blender-

[magic slate]

there's a point where this just sounds like complaining rather than being constructive

[delicate quail]

mhm

[slow flame]

also i just joined this server like 10 minutes ago

[delicate quail]

we can see

how did you try to learn blender? maybe the approach was wrong

[night turret]

this is so silly

[delicate quail]

not everyone learns the same way

[slow flame]

i learned it myself at first with no videos and then i started using videos

from big blender youtubers

but they didnt help at all

and even from trying to learn it myself i learned nothing

[delicate quail]

what was the thing you struggled with?

[slow flame]

its not that i cant model i can model in roblox studio

but blender is legit over complicated for no reason

i cant even place a shape

[night turret]

erm

[slow flame]

i have no clue on how to do anything in blender

[delicate quail]

for me it's the most helpful when i search the exact thing i need. Not "blender tutorial for everything", but "blender how to add armature"

small steps

[slow flame]

if i cant model how am i supposed to add a armature also my ocs character i plan for my avatar is a complicated design

[delicate quail]

blender can be complicated at first, but once you knoe what you need it's not that bad

[slow flame]

that cant just be replicated easily in blender

[magic slate]

one of the first things in most basic tutorials is how to make a new mesh object, so it really sounds like you've not actually watched any tutorials when you say that.

[delicate quail]

you just need to try

[slow flame]

i did

nothing worked

[delicate quail]

so why can't you add a mesh?

[magic slate]

yeah I can't believe that.

[delicate quail]

sounds unlikely.

[night turret]

this is why i use nomad sculpt to make all my models

its so easy

blender is too big brain

[slow flame]

i warched about like 10 tutorials to figure out how to model

legit nothing helped

and im using the same version from those videos

[delicate quail]

again, why can't you add a mesh? is the button not there? does the keybind not work?

cause i'm a bit confused

[magic slate]

in object mode, 'A' brings up a menu where you can add things, and then you can pick a cube. for example.

[slow flame]

it just doesnt work

the keybinds are set up

[night turret]

isnt adding a mesh just like right click add or smth

[magic slate]

I really cannot believe this does not work.

[slow flame]

the buttons there

but it doesnt add one

[delicate quail]

screen record.

[night turret]

idk how to model in blender :)

[delicate quail]

i will not believe until i see

[slow flame]

bro im on mobile rn im not on my computer rn

[delicate quail]

cause that sounds very unlikely

[slow flame]

plus my computers charging

and also my screen recorder doesnt work with blender

[magic slate]

OBS Studio works just fine

[delicate quail]

yeah

[night turret]

how does it not work with blender, its a screen recorder

[delicate quail]

obs studio very east

[slow flame]

i use obs but it doesn5 work on blender for me

[delicate quail]

y

[slow flame]

the footage is just a still image

[night turret]

window capture: blender

[delicate quail]

there's an option to also record the whole screen

[night turret]

or even monitor capture

[slow flame]

i use every freaking capture

doesnt freaking work

[magic slate]

at this point this is really starting to feel like trolling.

[slow flame]

not gonna explain it twice

[delicate quail]

i feel like nothing works for you

[slow flame]

im not trolling

[delicate quail]

honestly same here

[night turret]

anyways

i have stuff to do, like modeling loki

[magic slate]

yeah, same

[night turret]

bye kazin/eli

[magic slate]

but modeling happens right here?

[slow flame]

isnt loki the god of pranks-

[magic slate]

it's in that window over there ->

[night turret]

y e s

idk

[delicate quail]

i like loki

[night turret]

nuh uh
its on the tablet

[magic slate]

I don't currently own a display tablet, but I do have a drawing tablet.

[slow flame]

anyway as i said before ive tryed everything

[magic slate]

except apparently the correct thing

[slow flame]

and also if i cant even make a shape how am i suppose to model myself let alone make a rig%

-*

[delicate quail]

send a video

[night turret]

yeah thats what i use for modeling, app called nomad sculpt, very easy modeling (imo)

[slow flame]

i just freaking said

it

doesnt

work

[night turret]

just a normal tablet

[delicate quail]

"this doesn't work, that doesn't work"
okay, can you show proof?
"no, cause it doesn't work". like be ffr

[night turret]

record the pc screen with the phone 👍

[slow flame]

i dont have a phone

[delicate quail]

exactly

XDD

seems to me like you just wanna make someone feel so bad for you till they make you a free model

[slow flame]

and also my devices camera quality sucks

[night turret]

ok well

[magic slate]

Start blender. You'll see a scene with a cube. 'a' to select all, 'x' to delete that all. Then 'A' , select "mesh" then "cube' - you should now have a new cube.

[night turret]

then wtv mobile device

[delicate quail]

100% a troll

[slow flame]

thats not it at all -_-

i use a ipad

not a phone

[night turret]

then record it wit le ipad

[arctic slate]

ipads have cameras

[slow flame]

my ipads quality on the camera sucks

[delicate quail]

don't those come with cameraS?

[slow flame]

it cant even read the screen

[delicate quail]

i don't care.

[night turret]

._.

[delicate quail]

shit quality is still a recording

[night turret]

i think a recording is better than no recording

[slow flame]

what i mean by that is the camera quality makes the screens glow legit completely white

[arctic slate]

we dont need to read the words just need to see your process, most here are knowledgable enough to be able to figure out what you'd be looking at/pressing

[delicate quail]

mmm

[slow flame]

u wouldnt even be able to see the computer screen

ive

tryed

[arctic slate]

lower screen brightness

ez

[slow flame]

again

ive

tryed

that

does nothing

[night turret]

move tablet away from screen 👍

[slow flame]

even if i stand on the other side of the room its still white

ive

tryed

everything

u can imagine

does

not

work

[delicate quail]

turn on the light in your room, it should cancel out the brightness of the screen

[arctic slate]

guess you're SOL

[night turret]

i wonder if bro's legs work for him 🥺

[magic slate]

definitely not

[arctic slate]

he tried and they dont work!

[delicate quail]

because we cannot help you if you refuse to cooperate or look for solutions.

[slow flame]

why do i feel like this is just turning into a harrassement session over one question i asked?

[slow flame]

dude did u not read? i said ive tryed everything

Im trying

[magic slate]

we are trying to help but everything we say you tell us doesn't work, and it's becoming increasingly unlikely.

[slow flame]

to cooperate

[delicate quail]

did you also ty buying a new pc?

i don't know what everything means

it's too broad

[magic slate]

there's really nothing else we can tell you if nothing works except to commission someone to do this stuff for you.

[slow flame]

bro i use a gaming laptop

i aint got the money for a pc

[delicate quail]

hey, so do i!

[arctic slate]

also just breaking the dont spam #rules every other message

[delicate quail]

and guess what

blender works.

[slow flame]

im not saying i cant use blender

im saying the keybind and button doesnt work

for the mesh

[magic slate]

you definitely said that nothing worked repeatedly

[slow flame]

i meant for the screen recording moron

[delicate quail]

and the mesh not adding?

[night turret]

have you tried using the base cube to model from since you apparently cant add any meshes

[magic slate]

oh now we're done, if you're calling names. Good luck.

[delicate quail]

and be respectful.

[slow flame]

how am i supposed to turn a cube into a freaking model-

[delicate quail]

people do it all the time!

[night turret]

erm...
modeling it

[delicate quail]

how do you think models are made?

[night turret]

thats kinda how modeling works

[delicate quail]

exactly

[night turret]

mine are usually orbs

[slow flame]

ik but i cant add other shapes

[night turret]

or donuts

[slow flame]

to make the model

[delicate quail]

how to add a mesh, video tutorial

does your blender not do that

?

[night turret]

how dare you
you didnt use a keybind

[delicate quail]

shock

[magic slate]

thank you, I didn't have the patience for this anymore.

[delicate quail]

same here

[slow flame]

i have the button as i said

but it doesnt add the shape

[delicate quail]

and guess what, i recorded it with obs!

[slow flame]

even if i click the button

[delicate quail]

record proof. Because it sounds impossible, So i wanna see it happen.

[arctic slate]

purely extruding is an option, a lengthy option but a work around to your no being able to add new meshes in

[delicate quail]

if you don't i'm not gonna be helping, easy

[slow flame]

breh im not gonna explain it again

[night turret]

💀

[arctic slate]

lots of clipping software out there other then OBS

[delicate quail]

there's a 1000000 more recording software

google a different one

[magic slate]

I use simplescreenrecorder usually, but that's a Linux thing.

[delicate quail]

this is so funny xD

[slow flame]

im back i waa afk

was*

but even if these things did work i have no modeling experience my brain does not comprehend blender

i cannot model

[delicate quail]

than hire someone!

[night turret]

. . .

[delicate quail]

there's no other way

either learn it yourself

or PAY someone to do it for you

[night turret]

#avatar-quest message

liar

[slow flame]

dude i dont have qny money

any*

[delicate quail]

than learn it!

i'm done here

people won't do this stuff for fre

e

[magic slate]

yeah this is circular

[delicate quail]

because it's a lot of work

[slow flame]

i meant i cant model in blender

[arctic slate]

and because the majority of commissioners use comm's as their livelyhood

[night turret]

especially human models

[slow flame]

i can model in roblox studio but not blender

[delicate quail]

any models!

[slow flame]

i mistyped

[arctic slate]

roblox models can be ported to blender you'd just need to setup the rig in blender

[delicate quail]

hey, guess what. Isn't there a way to get roblox models to vrc?

[night turret]

i mean its not like its hard to model a donut

[slow flame]

yea but u cant model stuff like im thinking in studio

[night turret]

thats not true

ive seen some stuff modeled in roblox, its wild

[slow flame]

ik but not specifically the style im going for

which is 3d cartoony

look im done here this is just turning into a harass me session

[delicate quail]

VRoid?

easy to make models in

[slow flame]

think what u want my guy but i know the truth of what im thinking of my self

[delicate quail]

easy to port to vrc

[night turret]

which is what

[timber marlin]

theres a seat on my avatar from addding haptic suit support and vrcft

[analog dock]

why is my avi gettting flagged for security checks when it only has like 1 outfit and 1 hat??? and also what the hell is this sdk its not letting me upload pc q

[night turret]

are you using a modified sdk at all?

[analog dock]

no

normal sdk just newest version

anytime i upload it as pc quest i get this

and cannot use the avi anymore

[night turret]

any errors in the console?

[night turret]

is there an answer to this

[analog dock]

no there isnt

now i have it pc quest but now its a dissabled avi cause its failing checks

[night turret]

wdym pc quest

you've uploaded it to both?

[analog dock]

so very poor avis are automatically banned??? or something stupid cause its greyed out and a robot so like ig im done uploading cause they keep making this shit to complicated

like old sdk was fine enough why did yall gotta go out and change it

[night turret]

or you could go onto the vrc website and do a support ticket
but ok, annoy the mods instead 👍

[craggy glacier]

please do not ping us for non-moderation purposes

[night turret]

hi sipp

[craggy glacier]

sup

[night turret]

also no, very poor avis are not autobanned, otherwise it wouldnt even show it

like if you have smth thats 501mb, the limit being 500mb, it wont even show up as uploaded

[analog dock]

but my avi has no non quest compatible stuff its comepletely quest compatible

[night turret]

ok

[delicate quail]

?

[arctic slate]

not allowed in VRchat

[empty ice]

is there no way around this? why is this even a thing? xD

[frozen marsh]

It's for worlds only

[empty ice]

oh I see

so its there instead of being in the completely empty "world" section

[delicate quail]

yup

it's annoying

[frozen marsh]

Is there a canny for this message to include the message "This shader is only useable for Worlds ?"

[true burrow]

I'm so sorry it's my older brother he's been on a avatar posting spree lately and idk what to do with him

[dim cove]

uhuh...

[delicate quail]

hmm

[dim cove]

just admit your fault and move on, man
no need to put the blame on others

[delicate quail]

exactly

[tender breach]

my friend has been looking for this for ages does anyone know the name or have a link

[magic slate]

#1138520828556890214

[tender breach]

thank you

[wooden sable]

how can i use alpha blend vrc mat for quest?

[delicate quail]

you can't

[wooden sable]

ughugh

[delicate quail]

it's for worlds only

quest avatars can use: toon lit, standard lite, mat cap lit
for quest particles: multiply, additive

[wooden sable]

i saw an avatar with alpha blend yesteday tho

atleast i thought it was

because the hair texture wasnt darkneded

[flint forge]

The additive particle shader then probably.

[kindred fractal]

Yeah, it physically won’t let you upload the avi if it has any alpha blend mats

[magic slate]

#1138520828556890214

[jagged sentinel]

How do I tell the SDK to build the quest version of my avatar for android when doing the new multi-platform build and publish? it just tries to build the PC version for all platforms, which of course fails

[kindred fractal]

Just uncheck windows

[night turret]

switch to quest 👍

[jagged sentinel]

doesn't that defeat the purpose of the new multi-platform build functionality?

[night turret]

idk

not my expertise

[storm jasper]

how can i get rid of this ugly rainbow effect when using quest shaders

[steady idol]

get rid of vertex colors

[storm jasper]

How do i do that again

[steady idol]

blender or quest tools

[storm jasper]

so i just downloaded quest tools

[lost delta]

so do I put on windows and quest or just quest if already have a windows upload

[craggy basin]

Does anyone know anything about haritorax fbt?

[steady idol]

#full-body-tracking

[craggy basin]

Thanks

[frozen marsh]

If you did not fix it, here is a video how to fix it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktdppffngDY

[drifting dome]

Thanks for helping others and not be part of the toxic side of this community

[vernal sand]

I got u

[magic slate]

with what?

[knotty heart]

sup

[kindred fractal]

This is wonderful

[pastel storm]

Can't find the unsupported shadered - I'm at my with's end

It would be SO helpful if the unity builder would actually tell me where this is?

I'm also using Thry's optimizer, that normally shows all materials - I've gone throught all individual Poyiomi toon shader files - yet I can't find it -.-

What other quest tools there are that actually would change all the shaders to vrchat mobille?

[spark orbit]

I think Easy Quest Switch should do it for you

[scenic summit]

the eyes were more filled

like all filled it had no shine

[magic slate]

could just do a panosphere

[wary elm]

I don't know about the exact image but I have some references that might be similar if you want I could dm you them
Though if it was on Pinterest you can look in your pin history even if you only clicked on the pin and didn't save it also this is probably not the right chat to ask just a heads up ^^;

[scenic summit]

I already found it-

[scenic summit]

look at this cute shit

[wary elm]

okay that is really cute 🥺

[scenic summit]

it is really I love it

[wary elm]

Good luck with your avi, when you finish it you should post in avatar showcase and ping me I wanna see how it turns out 🫶

[scenic summit]

uh I have to be a trusted user to post a avi?

[night turret]

no, you need to be new user or user, dont remember which

[scenic summit]

I should be fine then uhhhhhhhhhhhh

how to use blender-

how do I move my camera around-

nvm I got the camera controls

[night turret]

watch basic tutorials 👍

[scenic summit]

okay-

[delicate quail]

new user

and an official vrc account

[night turret]

hi eli

[scenic summit]

so far made this thing

the head thing

alien antenas

rah

um please help

[magic slate]

with what?

[scenic summit]

when I try to join these alien antenas to the head they turn into a monster 😭

😭

[magic slate]

apply all transforms before joining objects

[magic slate]

what are you showing me here?

[scenic summit]

^

[scenic summit]

^

[magic slate]

no I mean it's a blob, so what?

[night turret]

looks like an antenna

or smth

[scenic summit]

I had 2

now its 1

😭

[magic slate]

I don't know what you are trying to convey with the image

oh - so success then?

[scenic summit]

no

[magic slate]

then you'll need to explain with words what it is you want to do and what you have done so far.

[night turret]

undo until you have 2 and then do the apply all transforms, or combine them seperately?

[scenic summit]

nvm fixed the issue myself somehow

I meant that I had 2 antenas and when I joined them with the head it just

one of the antenas disappeared

[magic slate]

did you have a mirror modifier on the antennas object?

'cause that'll disappear if you join that object into another one which does not have mirroring

[scenic summit]

I already fixed it and I understand it now!!

shiny

[scenic summit]

guys if I want to make funny hair things that bounce around ya know physics do they need to be seperate objects?

[magic slate]

no

Just weight paint those parts to a bone and put a physbone on that bone

[scenic summit]

I guess I will learn by video I don't have unity yet im just a modeler for now

[scenic summit]

Hey chat I have a question so I'm tryna make these black eyes but I'm pretty sure on quest you can't have invisible parts

[kindred fractal]

you can't, no

Unless you use particle shaders but those can be somwhat taxxing for transperency

[fading olive]

can you technically make the black a toggle? on quest?

like a mesh with black texture

that toggles on and off

[kindred fractal]

You could just do a material swap if that’s what you mean

[scenic summit]

I mean on alot of avatars the blush has white squares.

on quest

[kindred fractal]

Yeah, you can use particle shaders for that, but it isn’t really true transparency or a fix

[arctic slate]

check through every meshes material slots dropdown on the model (this includes toggled mesh aswell) make sure you're not adding anything with VRCfury that'd use non-quest supported shaders and you dont have any material swap toggles that'd do it either

other then that your SDK upload panel could be bugged maybe? you might wanna try saving>closing your project>re-opening your project and checking if it updated anything there

[magic slate]

don't forget to look at particles too. that'd be a very weird shader to use for anything avatar related though

[robust whale]

what is the issue? i don't see anything in your reference that needs to be transparent

[pastel storm]

How can I make it so if I take a outfit off the quest version when a pc user uses it they don’t appear naked on quest?

[torn moon]

is the whole outfit 1 toggle?

u can swap the anim on the quest controller for that off state

as another outfit instead

or maybe im misunderstanding

oh u mean removing the mesh from the avi quest side?

[pastel storm]

no

Like

I have shirt swaps etc to swap through shirts

I removed 2 from quest

When a quest player looks at a pc player using the shirt that’s gone they’re naked

[magic slate]

mismatched avatar parameter lists

make sure you use the same list for both avatars

[pastel storm]

I do

They’re using the same one

[magic slate]

this means after everything like vrcfury screws with them

[pastel storm]

I don’t use vrcfury

[magic slate]

are the parameters lists the same file? Order matters here too

[pastel storm]

Wdym?

[magic slate]

the order of the parameters in the list

[pastel storm]

They’re the same bc they use the same parameters yeah

[torn moon]

how are you removing the swaps?

[pastel storm]

I just deleted the clothing prefabs

[torn moon]

is this a ModularAvatar avi?

[pastel storm]

Yes

[torn moon]

its probably merging things to your param list which is causing that mismatch

[magic slate]

(what I was saying)

[pastel storm]

I don’t do the toggles that way tho? I just setup the outfit option it can still interfere??

[torn moon]

you can delete the mesh itself, but keep the component that has the FX/param logic

Modular avatar has components that can merge FX/params when uploading

[pastel storm]

Alright so all together what do I need to do? 😭

[torn moon]

tbh im not sure exactly how the toggles are setup for it, so im not 100% sure what to recommend without doing some manual work

[pastel storm]

Well thanks for your help ^^

[pastel storm]

do we have any known ways of displaying text on quest avis? i know there is such a thing as text shaders on PC - you just have to write your own (lol) but what do we got on quest?

[delicate quail]

text as on something displayed about your head? you could do toggles with premade phrases, I don't know if custom texts written in game would be possible (I also have never seen avatars like that at all so I may be misunderstanding what you're saying)

[pastel storm]

nope, it's the second option - you write something and it shows up in game as text

[delicate quail]

oh I don't know how that works at all, I just use the in game chat box XD

[pastel storm]

custom text written in game is possible with OSC on PC; OSC is possible on quest too, but displaying that text requires a custom shader which quest does not have

[pastel storm]

fair enough xdxd

[pastel storm]

bump gonna try to fix this again

new fx didnt work or deleting the toggle

[nocturne sinew]

the performance ratings system is straight ass

we need a weighted system so bad

so one category doesn't tank the performance to poor or worse

especially when completely unoptimized trash floods quest and is rated the same as my 15k tri model with an outline that doubles the tri count (can't think of one i actually have but you get the point)

[nocturne sinew]

not really an answer to your question but i pray you know retopology because this will NOT work well on quest

looks to be like 200k from the head alone

[naive pagoda]

it IS ass

Hey woah your avatar has a whole bunch of NOTHING but a little too much of that so FUCK YOU it sucks

[nocturne sinew]

true

[night turret]

just like, optimize ze tris 👍

its not bad you're just not good frfr

[keen aspen]

arguably 14k tris isnt even bad

[night turret]

14k is easy decimation

[keen aspen]

its still wild tbh that it doesnt average out it just goes 'yeah 14k tris? you're almost blocked buddy lol'

[buoyant kraken]

Hey all, im working on an avatar and i wanna make something glow/have the effect to look like a glow on quest, im pretty new so im not sure how to do that, is there anything that is very shiny or would look like a glow? I dont need it to be animated, just be there since its important to the avatars expressiveness

Its not terrible if i cant, ill maybe just change the texture to have a bright color instead, but a glow would better fit with the PC equivalent

[magic slate]

iirc emission works on quest

[buoyant kraken]

Is there a standard shader that works? I can look in a few when i get on my pc!

[magic slate]

yeah I thought the quest ones did emission. would have to look though, I might be incorrect

[buoyant kraken]

Ill take a gander when i can!

[buoyant kraken]

Yes it did! Tysm!!

[magic slate]

oh good

[undone pier]

How do you correct this bug?

[jagged sequoia]

that's not a bug the mobile tab includes both worlds and Avatar shaders

that Shader is only usable for worlds

[delicate quail]

exactly

sdk isn't really well organised

at least the shader part

[undone pier]

GAH Develouping for quest is horrible some times. Ok, is there a simple way to solve every other quest shader giving my avatar a horrible rash?

[delicate quail]

quest avatars can use: toon lit, standard lite, mat cap lit
for quest particles: multiply, additive

[delicate quail]

if it changes colours, it could be vertex colours

[undone pier]

All three do the above'

Am I able to instuct the material to ignore vertex colors?

[delicate quail]

I believe that's something you will need to delete in blender or with vrc quest tools

i don't know how though

quest materials can't ignore vertex colours

[magic slate]

blender or vrc quest tools

oh you got it, nice

[delicate quail]

yup

I just remembered

[undone pier]

Took a screenshot of your advice, will properly fix later.

[frozen marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktdppffngDY

[tidal kraken]

What does "Enable GPU Instancing" do on the standard lite material?

[delicate quail]

I don't know, but the VRChat website recommends to have it on 🤷

i would also like to know what it does

[naive pagoda]

for avatars? not much

but its an optimization feature for repeated models with the same material

it renders them all in one drawcall instead of multiple

ie. it instances all other instances of a material in the scene on your gpu

ie ur gpu knows where all occasions of a material are and renders them ALL at the exact same time instead of one by one

doesnt matter on materials that get used once, like your avatar because with or without gpu instancing its gonna only ever draw you one time

unless theres multiple people wearing your avatar at the same time, in which case it WOULD be better because they get drawn at the same time

so it doesnt matter im pretty sure

unless you expect your avatar to be worn by whole lobbies lol

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/GPUInstancing.html

tldr is above

(it took 1 google to know all of this btw!)

[fading olive]

it doesn't hurt tho by turning it on? so we should just turn it on by default for everything?

[naive pagoda]

i think for most usecases it doesnt hurt, no

i believe its not recommended to be used as a “crutch” and very small objects shouldnt be instanced but “combined” into 1 thing instead of having 1000 seperate but instanced things

but afaik no its not bad to have it on i think

especially for quest just keep it on

pretty sure it doesnt even work on avatars?

[jagged sequoia]

Yeah different objects that are skinned mesh renderers cannot be GPU instance together

[torn moon]

yeah which is interesting why it would be suggested on the vrc docs without proper elaboration

or maybe it wasnt docs, but i def remember coming across that on official vrc site somewhere

[pastel storm]

been trying to upload a quest compatible avatar it is saying it is uploading but when I check on the website its failing the security check

[arctic slate]

post a screenshot of the stats in the upload panel

if its a bought model its likely the avatar isnt actually quest compatible and the creator was lazy

[delicate quail]

yeah, it's very likely

post the alert/statistics here

[arctic slate]

too many phybones (which should just make it so you have no bone phybones during upload) and too many separated meshes but nothing that'd seemingly make you fail the security check

you could try uploading it again/upload under a different blueprint ID and see if that works

are you maybe adding anything other then Gogoloco with VRCFury?

[pastel storm]

no only gogo

so you are saving to detach the ID from it?

[arctic slate]

yep and reupload under a new ID

[pastel storm]

ok i will try that

ok that did work

[opaque wasp]

is there anyway for me to be able to make the sukuna markings a decal so it can be a toggle for easy eye swap changes? i know it's possible on PC with poiyomi but i wonder if i could somehow make a seperate material just for the markings

[keen aspen]

the only way to do it on Quest is to have them be two full textures

1 face texture without the marking, 1 with the marking, and having it toggle between the two

Well, Material more-so than Texture but you'd need the texture to do the material

[opaque wasp]

ahh okay. thank youu

[keen aspen]

np!

[torn moon]

u can do it like a decal

BUT best to have it be done with 2 UVs

2nd UV being mirrored

and then apply the tattoo in the detail texture and animate the offset

kinda how quest "decals" work on one mat but ofc easier to just have it be a matswap instead

just throwing it out there incase someone may come across this

i do this with body skintones, and furry avis so its 2 skins per texture

https://tenor.com/view/its-free-real-sate-gif-7215175

[opaque wasp]

okay i will try this. thanks!

[vestal linden]

Hello, why in quest I have 2 changes of clothes, the default one and another sweater, when I put on the sweater everything is fine I can see myself in the mirror, myself and in the camera fine but with the default clothes I see myself and I have no hairstyle, I have no clothes, and in the mirror I see myself other people see me with clothes, but when it is a selfie you can't see my hairstyle or clothes, I shared the avatar with a person and they see me normal, with clothes but if it is a selfie the two of us together are seen without anything but the second outfit returns the hairstyle and only the second change of clothes is seen

Use int to change clothes

It is the same parameter for PC and Quest.

[indigo flax]

Anyone knows any good naruto avis for quest?

[delicate quail]

#1138520828556890214

[random knot]

What has been changed with quest avatars?
Avatars that used to be within the limit are no longer there. What can I focus on to get it under the new limit?

[robust whale]

it's your avatars uncompressed size. Nothing has changed though, these limits have been in place for a long time. Usually the culprits are large textures or many unused blendshapes on high-poly models.

[random knot]

it used to be uploadable though which is why I'm confused..

[flint forge]

When did it used to be uploadable?

[random knot]

maybe two or three months ago?

[flint forge]

Well, it has been enforced SDK side since March last year.
I assume you have tried restarting unity, it sometimes gets confused.

And while both the SDK and Thry's tool are measuring the same thing it is apparently not that easy to measure so they will always be different, but shouldn't be this different.

[random knot]

I've restarted yes

I just need it uploaded so deleted some stuff and done. Just surprised that 1.8 mb of texture and 25.9 mb of mesh is making such a fat avatar

[flint forge]

Blendshapes should be counted into the uncompressed size as well so if you aren't using d4rk's optimizer (real useful for basically free optimization) or VRCFury's blendshape optimizer then those would likely help with the same issue in the future.

[magic turtle]

hey i need some help, i got this one uploaded to pc but not quest and when trying to change the shading so i can do so its stuck on pink. no matter what i do or what shader i choose it won't fix it can anyone please help me\

[delicate quail]

make sure that you're using a quest compatible shader and that you don't have any toggles changing the material to something else that's not quest compatible

[magic turtle]

That’s the thing, is I’m using the quest shader standard lite

[delicate quail]

check toggles

[magic turtle]

Does spectacular highlights affect it cause I believe that’s the only one I have on

[silent siren]

You still need to check that you don't have any animations that change the materials.

[silent siren]

"Toggles" meaning menu controls (which, presumably, control animations that change out materials)

[magic turtle]

ok so i think ive found the issue, thank you for the help

[random knot]

I have the blendshape optimiser, yes

[daring arch]

how can i fix this?

[errant blade]

Question, how do i add a seat on quest?

i added one on pc like perfectly

[flint forge]

The same as on pc but you skip the collider, it generates one itself in game.

[errant blade]

thats the thing tho it doesnt

i just tested it with a friend of mine

the collider doesnt make itself properly

and i cant toggle it

[flint forge]

Is the station's fame object enabled by default?
Including any parent game objects.

I don't perfectly know how it works but know you can't just toggle it.

[errant blade]

on pc you can toggle the collider and i was told that i can toggle the collider the game makes by making the animation for the toggle and then deleting the collider. also this what i have i know the box collider is there and it will be deleted its just to show what i shaped the collider as

[errant blade]

it kinda worked before by just toggling the game object. it worked like once or twice

then it just stopped

[flint forge]

That's news to me, as far as I know there isn't anyway to control the collider, people have been "disabling" stations by just offsetting them far away.
Maybe that is old knowledge.

[errant blade]

either way

toggle or not

the chair doesnt work on quest

if i need to i can make it just go bye bye like that

but

i need it to work on quest anyway

[errant blade]

got it to work

[errant blade]

so wait

it wont move at all off of my back

like

i tried shrinking it

i tried moving it

[errant blade]

it wont move or shrink or toggle

[flint forge]

Shrinking it wouldn't disable it, but moving the game object should work, in case you are trying to move the collider's center instead.

[errant blade]

im moving the game object itself and it isnt moving it at all

[errant blade]

i have one animation that make it a mile away

then another that makes it back where its suppsed me be and its not working

[wanton scarab]

So i've started testing out the outline helper plug in for quest that lets me add an outline to my avatar pretty quickly, however for some reason when I go to import it in unity it doesn't import with any blendshapes?? You can see that I have a version without the outline and it works perfectly then the one with the outline doesn't. If anyone has used this plug in before any help would be greatly appreciated on how to fix this

[robust whale]

never used this before but idk why you need a plugin for it since adding outlines is literally just adding a solidify modifier. Likely that's what this does and you are therefore exporting with unapplied modifiers which will remove your blendshapes. Apply all modifiers (aside from armature) before exporting.

[wanton scarab]

Sorry can you tell me how I go about doing that?? I’m not great when it comes to navigating blender

[robust whale]

You can't natively apply modifiers to objects with blendshapes in blender; install the "apply modifers and keep shapekeys" addon

[wanton scarab]

Tysm it’s working now ✨🙇

[silent siren]

oh shoot, that sounds very helpful

relatedly: i wish Geometry Nodes didn't murder your vertex groups

[magic slate]

they generate geometry and therefor vertices, so probably you want to be picky about what's in vertex groups after the geometry nodes run

[warped steeple]

quick potentially stupid question, can you turn off backface culling on quest avatars?

[robust whale]

no, although for some reason you can't turn it on for quest particle shaders

[warped steeple]

odd

Alright then I'll have to do some magic to make sure the hair on my avatar is visible from both sides since it uses hair cards

[robust whale]

duplicate in blender and flip normals

[warped steeple]

I didn't think about that, thank you

[eager grove]

Hello!
I'm converting my PC model to Quest and when swapping the Material from LilToon to VRChat/Mobile/ToonLit I end up looking very very bright.
I wonder how to fix this since the mobile material doesn't offer a lot of customization;

Do I need to edit the texture directly and darken it or am I missing something?

( Also is there a way in-game to preview a Quest model being on PC? I have to ask random people how I look to try to troubleshoot the issues 🥲)

[delicate quail]

standard lite is a bit darker

[junior token]

can anyone help me fix the eyebrow? the texture of it is on the head so the head will go transparent if i set the mat to particles

[delicate quail]

you will need to edit it in blender

for example take the knife tool and cut around the eyebrows

[wanton scarab]

You could use matcap lit and use different mat caps to get the right look you want. Or use Standard lite tho that’s a bit more restrictive in what you can achieve with it. Also, you could upload your quest variant as a separate avatar on pc and just look at it before attaching it to the actual avatar! You would just need to detach the avatar blueprint id thingy at the bottom then reattach it when you’re happy with it

[kindred fractal]

Check if there’s blendshapes for alphas on the brows and lashes, or if theres quest variants (some creators do that)

If not, knife topology tool in blender like Eli said

[rocky garnet]

hi any one know to decrease the size

i have tried to low the textures but the size still the same

[magic slate]

that's the easiest method. lots of discussion about this in #quest-optimization too

[eager grove]

Thank you! Good ideas 😊

[half fable]

Delete some models off of it maybe

[icy harbor]

Does anyone know how to fix my avatars turning grey on quest? they're completely textured in unity but appear grey to quest users

[icy harbor]

Upon closer inspection it seems to be the UVs breaking

[magic slate]

often this is because some creators put an extra layer of mesh over the eyes to add a transparent but reflective coat for PC. You'd have to remove that for quest.

[icy harbor]

I have no transparency on my model. I also determined that the cause is all the UVs are converging to one point on the texture

[magic slate]

k

[atomic crag]

Hi, is it possible to make a shader glow only when is dark?

[wanton scarab]

From what I know, I don’t think there’s a shader that can be affected by light intensity. Tho you could make a shader’s emission lower that way you could only see it in the dark?? From shaders I’ve used the emissions aren’t really noticeable in brighter worlds tho

[vale beacon]

Can i get help idk how to upload quest avatar

It block me here

[kindred fractal]

You have to install the android build

[vale beacon]

Where can i find that ?

[kindred fractal]

There’s probably an easier way to find it, but you can in your unity hub if you go under installations, the version of unity you’re using, then into the settings there

You just have to check Android build there and wait for it to install

[vale beacon]

Okay thank you ill come back if it don't work

[kindred fractal]

[uneven cedar]

does anybody have good eboy avis?

[simple scroll]

#1138520828556890214

[signal bobcat]

Is there a vrc commissionest that can do free... I'm new to the request :<

[delicate quail]

look on vrc traders

you'll get scammers here

maybe they have some free offers

[signal bobcat]

Oki 👍

[delicate quail]

don't answer dms you'll get from here

scammers

[signal bobcat]

Okay and also I don't see it?

[magic slate]

the link is in #1204490664637890580

[delicate quail]

yes

[signal bobcat]

Thx

[vocal hull]

Idk if it’s allowed or if it’s possible but I had bought an avatar and stuff but I need help uploading it

I’m on a quest

[manic ore]

You should check and see if the creator does uploads first cuz sharing files with ppl who don't already own it is considered leaking

[vocal hull]

They do but from what I saw they take forever to do so. Seeing other people wait and the dates. I don’t think they’ll do mine 😞

I can wait but if the others waited this long idk tbh

[smoky zinc]

I found a free Avi and she has emotes that don't work. How do I fix it or find someone to help fix it?!?!

[magic slate]

you can commssion people at the VRC Traders discord, link is in #1204490664637890580
If you want help, maybe show what you have now

[edgy pendant]

Does anyone have a quest fallower system??? (please ping)

[brave basin]

does anyone know how to fix the eyes for quest?

[delicate quail]

wdym by fix?

[brave basin]

the eyes are just black

[arctic slate]

alot of furry models have a glossy lens layer over the actual eyes, it requires transparency to work so you should just go and delete that part of the mesh (though theres also the option of faking transparency)

[delicate quail]

not the material

the part of the mesh in blender

[silent siren]

deleting the material means that unity tries to render that submesh without a valid material