avatar-quest

[runic smelt]

It's like some rugged looking outdoors geared phone. It's an odd one honestly. But it's got a great depth sensor

[vapid wasp]

difficult to set up w vrchat?

[lucid quest]

try removing the vertex color

[final terrace]

Hey Can i ask how do you add a prob to a quest avatar?

[late silo]

Prob?

[proper quest]

Is anyone else’s avatars bugged with the standard lighting? Looks really flat and has no detail anymore🫤

[spare summit]

shouldnt be bugged

if a quest avatar looks different recently it might have used a modded sdk

[proper quest]

I used a Vrchat SDK and used the standard lighting that it told me to

[spare summit]

thats weird

[proper quest]

Look I’ll show a comparison image

What I looked like before

What I look like now

Both used the same standard lighting

[spare summit]

ok but those look like different avatars?

did u upload them both

[proper quest]

Yes

Give me a sec

[spare summit]

dunno what to tell u then man

different avatars in different worlds r gonna look different

[proper quest]

There we go

That’s the old look

[spare summit]

i wont lie man i rlly dont see a difference other than the world's lighting

[proper quest]

Basically before I looked like you know more shiny and leather suit-like I guess and now I look really flat textured and no detail

A lot of details are in the textures but now there’s little to none

Like here for example was the normal lighting I had in any world but now it’s sucks

[spare summit]

u could try reuploading it? i rlly dont know man im sorry 😭

[jovial haven]

i want it

that spiderman avatar looks amazing

[proper quest]

Looked*🥲

[steady idol]

are you using the actual vrcsdk or something else

[proper quest]

Vrcsdk

[grizzled bone]

I've been trying to make a pcvr avatar quest compatible for some days now but I haven't managed to do it. At first the shaders were messed up (which i somehow managed to fix) and now apparently the textures arent mapped correctly to the mesh. It looks right on unity but absolutely wrong once i upload it. I've used VRCquesttools to make the character quest compatible and then Mantis LOD Editor to lower the polygon count, maybe i broke something then. I do not have a lot of knowledge about vrchat avatar creation in general... any help would be appreciated

[steady idol]

pictures

[grizzled bone]

Difficult since i dont have a quest myself to make screenshots of it. The textures are just completely misaligned

[grizzled bone]

okay managed to get a picture thanks to a friend. i have the unity screenshot (how it should look like) and i have the ingame image (how it shouldn't look like lol). the avatar was a premade avatar by another person but it was only made for PCVR. i was trying to make it quest compatible and i have no idea what im doing xD

(credit to zoidrawz for the avatar)

[cursive tartan]

if you increase the smoothness slider in the shader settings it should give you the effect youre looking for

[grizzled bone]

managed to find out that i can replicate the exact effect in unity by offsetting all textures by -0.6 in y direction. would it fix it if i just offsetted them with 0.6 positive so in the end it puts it exactly to 0, which would be the right offset? xD

[grizzled bone]

update: it didnt fix anything...

[grizzled bone]

i tried and tried different things for days now but i can't find any solution to my problem. i'll have to give this one up if noone can help me. really any help would be really appreciated if you know what the problem could be. thanks

[mystic trellis]

how do i get an avatar to upload as quest?

[grizzled bone]

set selected platform to android (you need to have the unity android build version downloaded)

[mystic trellis]

i click confirm but it dosent change it tho

[grizzled bone]

hmm i honestly cant help cuz i have no idea about making avatars and i am having a mental breakdown

[mystic trellis]

still need help on this please

[minor spoke]

new avatar creator here, some minor experience. I have a premade avatar package that has an outdated version of GoGo Loco, and I can't find any information on how to remove it without damaging the avatar. I know how to install it after the fact. thank you!

[jagged sequoia]

pretty much do the process to install it in reverse?

like delete the old animation controllers and any prefabs attached to the avatar?

[minor spoke]

the issue is that i've used vrcfury which makes it a 2 step process, i didnt realize there was a manual install version
let me look at some tutorials and try to backtrack from them :)

[jagged sequoia]

then that should be even easier as vrcfury is non-destructive?

so you can pretty much just delete the original prefab that would be installed by VRC Fury and put in the new one

[minor spoke]

this package came with gogo pre-installed, its not an easy to find prefab in the heirarchy :(

unless its named something strange or buried in the armature im not sure how to get at it

[jagged sequoia]

have you tried using the hierarchy search to search GoGo Loco

[minor spoke]

..i probably should have thought of that, but im messing with playable layers at the moment and trying to replace them

gogo isn't a prefab in the hierarchy it seems

oh shoot this is avatar quest.. oops

[mystic trellis]

can someone help me understand why this avatar project wont go into android mode?

i select it click confirm it does nothing

[grizzled bone]

Anyone know a solution?

[grizzled bone]

Is there an error in the unity console?

[wide heart]

I've never encountered something like this, but from my limited understanding of Unity, this shouldn't really happen. That is unless you're possibly using a specific kind of shader for PC. What shader is the PC end using? Or maybe some kind of animation is interacting with the UV offsets in some way?

[grizzled bone]

thats what i thought. the PC users will see poiyomi shaders, which i know that it isnt compatible with quest. quest users should see the Toon Lit shaders. i tried checking if any of the animations change any of the UV offsets but i couldn't find anything...

[wide heart]

That is odd. Have your tried in a different project?

[grizzled bone]

you mean putting the quest avatar into a different project?

[wide heart]

Yes, the current project might have a bug or something

[grizzled bone]

wouldn't the pcvr version then also have the same bug?

[wide heart]

Not necessarily, just give it a shot and see.

[austere lodge]

Needs to be under 10mb

[mystic trellis]

how do i check that?

[austere lodge]

What errors does it give you when you try to upload the avatar

[mystic trellis]

none it lets me just fine

oh wait

nvm ill figure it out another time

[grizzled bone]

apparently its fixed even tho i haven't done anything besides adding gogo loco xD maybe the update fixed the problem? idk to be honest but im happy i got it to work xD

[silent steppe]

Did u figure out a fix? 💀 I have same problem

[grizzled bone]

nope

still trying to figure it out

but i figured changing between this states somehow offsets all of the materials and i have no idea why and how i can fix it

[silent steppe]

What that

Hol up

This is just on quest it seems

[grizzled bone]

so the issue i am having is that these toggles change every material instead of only one. is there any solution for that?

[silent steppe]

Where even are those toggles 💀

[grizzled bone]

i need to know if its possible to offset one single material in an animation on quest and if yes, how. does anyone know that? cuz what the animation is doing is moving every single material in the skinned mesh renderer down instead of the one im trying to do it on. i have no idea why it doesnt do that on PC but i honestly dont care about knowing exactly how this works right now, i just want it to work xD

[silent steppe]

I've seen many people tell of the problem now. I'd just wait until the big bosses see what's going on and either make an update to fix it or revert back to pre update

[mystic trellis]

looking for some help on setting up and publishing the quest compatible j4ck3l, its my first time doing this so if anyone has good advice or a video they cam redirect me to that would be greatly appreciated

[random comet]

you need the Android build module installed on your unity editor, press Ctrl + Shift + B in Unity and select the Android tab instructions will be listed there

[mystic trellis]

k i installed it

[mystic trellis]

what next?

oh wait its doing it

[mystic trellis]

wwhat would i do next when i goes to quest? just update it to quest and itll be quest pc?

[random comet]

yeah just make sure it uses the same Avatar ID for the avatar you need it to be in the pipeline manager

[steady idol]

same id and they are on the same avi

they dont even need to be the same avatar

just need to share the id

[mystic trellis]

lol alright

caps srry

[shrewd dove]

if im planning on using an avatar on quest but play threw a link cable does that mean ill still only see quest avatars?

[steady idol]

if you are doing the link cable to a pc then you are playing pcvr

[shrewd dove]

ahh okay thanks

[golden idol]

https://www.reddit.com/r/VRchat/comments/16quigt/avatar_textures_white_on_quest/

I recently found this when looking for resolutions for my model

I fixed issues with the head without even changing the textures and now all the textures are flat white on Quest, even though it still uses the same standard lite shader as it did before

Maybe I forgot to enable emissions at a certain level, but I'll test it later

[golden idol]

Has anyone found a fix for this yet?

[golden idol]

Was it something about a modded client? Idek what “mods” I added, just plugins

[jagged sequoia]

modded sdks are against the terms of service of vrchat

[upper kettle]

https://jingo1016.booth.pm/items/4035411 haihaiiiii okay soooo i dunno how to read kanji and idk how well of a job google translate does, but does anyone know if this avatar base is quest compatible? its really adorable and Ive been looking at getting a custom avi sometime in the near future. pls ping me cuz tbh i dont check in here that often ^^;

[rose yew]

You can make most things quest compatible if you try hard enough. The page doesn't say anyhow. 🙃

[upper kettle]

oh i see

thank you awaaaaa

[grizzled bone]

Hey i've been trying to find a fix for days but never got any response... any help would be greatly appreciated...

[pastel storm]

No, because Quest uses either StandardLite or ToonLite. Same for PC using Standard. Something like Poi or lilToon could, because it can change materials respectively on a single mesh. For Quest, rather than making a single mesh with two materials, you'll have to make two meshes. Then you can change that mesh and its material without changing the other mesh and its material. You can see an example here #avatar-help message and if you scroll a bit, you can find the unitypackage for it.

[wary flume]

DO you mean like a tiling effect?

[jovial meadow]

can anyone upload me a avi

[wooden umbra]

I might be having this issue, I havent touched the project for a very long time but after the recent update that went out all my quest friends see this

[sand steppe]

Cute avi I found

[frozen merlin]

I saw that too with some skins in the Avatar Search.

[shadow rover]

Is it public 🥺❓

[loud harness]

No

It's nsfw

[timber axle]

oh, just isolate it in blender

then try again

[timber axle]

it is 100% possible to get into quest, just gotta know what youre doing

[hearty tusk]

Do quest avatar uploads require a PC upload for others to see the quest version upload?

[wide heart]

What? Quest upload allows quest users to see the avatar, PC uploads allow PC people to see the avatar. Upload to both for everyone to see it.

[hearty tusk]

Oh Okie dokie

Sowwy I'm slow .

[wide heart]

Lol its fine

[hearty tusk]

🧀

Have sum cheese

[wide heart]

Not exactly the easiest thing to learn. Takes some time

Cheese!

[rancid cloud]

Hi, i want ask if there is a alternative way to move arms of this avatar, on pc version it use rotation constraint, but on quest these are blocked, any way for do it?

[wide heart]

Sadly, as you said, constraints aren't allowed on quest. Not much you can do.

[rancid cloud]

i think they should just add a limit like physbones instead blocking them at all

[wide heart]

I would think it has some compatibility issue or something. Because that would seem like a solution, yet here we are.

[austere lodge]

all avatars are quest compatible if you make them

[robust whale]

Constraints work on quest, but they are not allowed because when they did testing on them, they found that they quickly and at unreliable amounts severely reduced performance. The reason iirc is because the way they are implemented means even though it is basic math, it pretty much has to stoo everything else the computer is doing, so lots of constraints can EASILY drop your framerate by a lot. And because of the unpredictability and severe performance drop they aren't allowed on quest. They never will be as far as I'm aware either, but I believe they are eventually planning on making a vrchat version of constraints that are multi-threaded and therefore more performant. Just like they made physbones as a vrchat version of dynamic bones.

[late silo]

there is a limb puppet system you can get but it kinda sucks

[sturdy goblet]

huh, neat

can't wait lol

(i can wait but it'll be neat

[dense sigil]

New to unity, I was able to upload an avatar with some difficulty, but when I do certain expressions there is a block of colour as a blush, I know that you can't do transparent blushes on quest, but is there a way to delete the blush all together? (The avatar is Manuka if that helps at all)

[dry ridge]

If by delete you mean you just don't want it to show up, the VRChat Mobile > Particles > Additive shader should still allow you to upload, but the blush will never be rendered.

That means the blush has to be on a separate material slot though. If that's not the case, I'd just plop the model into Blender and delete the blush there.

[dense sigil]

Thank you

[dry ridge]

I've got a weird bug with the Quest Mobile Toon Lit Shader. Currently on the most up to date version of all the SDKs, confirmed by the Creator Companion. Parts of the model are rendering as completely black, the liner and the pupils. Some extra information.

• I have already checked the vertex colors in Blender, everything is set to white.
• There is no alpha/transparency in the texture for the eyes and liner.
• It is not an issue with the eyes being a single sided surface, as the white shine is the same type of mesh, and the liner is a closed surface.
• Replacing the texture with a solid color still renders the eyes and liner as black.
• I have worked with other models with this exact same eye geometry (Other BGB models) and this has never occured before.

Here's what it looks like on almost any other non-mobile shader.

[vapid wasp]

anyone used the new ai pose llms w avatars?

[solemn lotus]

Anyone down to make me a avi?

[late silo]

Careful messages like that will get you spammed with scammers

[pastel storm]

optimised my avi for quest and got this error, has anyone ran into it? iv never seen it before

[magic slate]

You could just weight paint them to the bones

[rancid cloud]

but what about fingers tracking?

[magic slate]

I mean, to the standard humanoid bones

hmm, though they probably wouldn't move that well with the wrong rotation centers.

[steady idol]

they wouldnt in the slightest

[late silo]

you could make animations for the fingers and map them to your fx layer for hand gestures

[misty horizon]

Has anyone else had issues with 2022 models for quest that once they upgraded their project, the model has become super broken and pixelated?

[wide heart]

As in, an impostor?

[misty horizon]

I ended up figuring it out, it wasn't an imposter no. A quest model I upgraded to 2022 unity broke, but it was just that the model importer changed and I had to change some import settings for the fbx to fix the broken meshes was all

[wide heart]

Interesting. Wonder what that was like. Only "broke" avatar I've seen actually upload was broken shape keys. Causes the whole thing to turn into a spike ball when any shape key was turned up.

[rugged bobcat]

How do I fix this? (Vrchat expressions)

[scarlet ermine]

You need to go to the VRCExpressionsParameter and define that parameter. Obviously a GoGo Loco issue here. Generally easier to install GoGo Loco with AV3 Manager. Plenty of guides on that on YouTube

[scarlet ermine]

Best way is just to install GoGoLoco with AV3 Manager as that allows you to merge parameters rather than doing it all manually

[rugged bobcat]

Thank you so much!

[cyan apex]

Use the VRCFury prefab

Drag and Drop installation, nothing else needed

[copper summit]

Sucks there are no hunt showdown avatars.

[tall oriole]

question is it only to me that happening this or smt but for quest my avatars turn out like this and i have no idea how to fix them

does this problem happen to anyone else?

[cyan apex]

looks like z fighting

indicating that you might have two meshes

check if you have a duplicate body mesh

[tall oriole]

how would i do that ?

[cyan apex]

in unity

check if you have two body mesh objects

if not, check in blender

[tall oriole]

it dosent look like it figthing with to meshes

its only on wuest that its affected

pc player look at the avi like normal

[cyan apex]

does it look like this in unity too?

[potent pivot]

how to make the quest particle shaders white instead of black

[hot elbow]

Hey all im looking for a quest avi creator that can create a sheriff cruiser avi with working lights for sirens can anyone help?

[tall oriole]

Lol no

[sturdy goblet]

wash off all the rusty polygons

[indigo rain]

Maybe someone has encountered this problem when loading a character?

[cyan apex]

what's the first error in the console?

[indigo rain]

sec

i think i fixed it

and now it just won't let me load a character because I haven't spent enough time in VR chat.

[cyan apex]

watch out for scammers dming you

you'd be best off asking on vrctraders

#community-servers-old message

[late silo]

i mean a working siren wouldnt really work

[inner harness]

a normal cowboy

[steady idol]

Dont ask here because scams
Lights dont work on quest avatars
Best you got is faking them
You wouldnt even have any sounds on the avi

[foggy terrace]

(quests are a ton more limited than you think)

[tulip dagger]

just a pro tip for quest/android avatar creators, try baking specular highlights into the emission on standard lite, it won't look good for everything, but for some stuff, well, see for yourself, unfortunately this does require substance painter to pull off.

[steady torrent]

if i update my pc version like adding a toggle do i have to do the same on the quest version or will it do it by itself?

it sounds stupid

[foggy terrace]

on android holy shit thats so good?!

looks like a very poor but running on mobile means thats insanely optimized which is amazing

[outer patio]

where can i find that avi? its rlly cute :>

[rancid cloud]

Her name is Kirale, is custom with karin base, just google it for know who is her (it will be a game character in future)

[wary flume]

Do you mean making the specular highlights as the material?

[pastel storm]

Im wanting to buy an custom avi but idk where to buy one from

[limber parrot]

Booth is good

For buying avatars

[magic slate]

#1138520828556890214

[obtuse junco]

😦 is alpha blended not supported on android? On the mobile shader?

I mean if we cant use it why is it even there

[random comet]

VRChat/Mobile/Particles is for worlds

[obtuse junco]

The other ones work just not the alpha blended

And that is the only one that seems to work well with transparent backgrounds 😦 if they brought that to avatars it could make things considerably more optimized imo

[random comet]

would be the opposite as alpha rendering is tasking for the quest's APU

sure it would be okay on a single avatar, but instanced over a ton of avatars in a public instance is a huge difference

[obtuse junco]

Thankyou, I figured that specific particle shader is not supported on avatars.

And I suppose I have to learn more. Im just getting into transparent stuff because of a game that uses low poly transparent textures and what not to produce really nice looking objects in a small package (low poly and low texture memory)

So I started making my own objects and came into this predicament xD maybe one day theyll find a way to deal with cutouts in a more efficient way for the android apu

[steady idol]

The others dont actually work properly
Outside of a particle they dont render at all

[indigo rain]

Hey hey, Maybe someone knows how many hours you need to play to be able to upload their Avatar?

[valid cloud]

I think it‘s remaining a secret. I played one evening talking to alot of different people and got ranked up immediately. I think you just gotta socialize maybe?

[indigo rain]

I played already 16 hours

Hah

Maybe need to add friends

[valid cloud]

Or that yeah

But I just friended like 2 people then lol

[indigo rain]

Oh

Need to try

[pastel storm]

I got it fixed

The error I got when uploading it to Quest is this

[steady idol]

you never downloaded the android build

[pastel storm]

Did

Still nothing.

It’s been having issues installing Windows Visual

[random comet]

you dont need that module

you only need the base Android Build Module

[cyan apex]

#avatar-help message

[winged egret]

Someone should make vrchat public trolling avatars like for example this one: the default gray robot avatar with just hands and a head with a blank stare that jump scares you

[steady idol]

thats a thing but quest side wont happen since you dont get avatar audio

[obtuse junco]

Youre right, you can upload it but it becomes invisible using particles shaders w/o a particle system

[lime ridge]

hey! anyone willing to mentor me in the ways of avatar uploads and help me become a pro? im willing to pay for professional help lol

[cyan apex]

is there anything specific you need help with?

[late silo]

"trading" public avatars makes no sense, if its a public avatar it has no value in a trade....its already public

you dont own it

[jade bough]

avatar traders are stupid

you guys dont even own the avatar or make it (majority of the time), so why act like its yours

its purely a superiority complex thing

[torpid meteor]

Working with an avatar that uses specular over the eyes in the PC version, what's the best way to convert that over for quest? Since we can't use transparency, it's just covering the eye with any material I try

[pastel storm]

Anyone got some cute furry girls or furry femboys?

[steady idol]

#1138520828556890214

[steady idol]

You kinda dont
Hide that mesh around the eyes and emulate it on the texture

[dawn spruce]

where do i find and downlod the shader for quest avatar

now how do i add it

i added the toonlight to unitity

[torpid meteor]

Ironically I did learn VRChat/Mobile/Particles/Additive works, just use a full black texture and it's additive will be nothing, therefor completely invisible

[steady idol]

the particle shaders just dont render in the first place on non-particle

[cyan apex]

while you can do that, a better choice would be to just delete that part of the mesh in blender

[civic crest]

was toon lit or matcap lit ever fixed to not show as black in some worlds? or should i just stick with using base texture over emission on standard lit for a flat shaded effect on quest

[jagged sequoia]

something I'm pondering I'm trying to make a tutu skirt for my mom for VR chat but she will be playing the Android version of VR chat so I can't use transparency so how do I make it properly look like a tutu skirt?

[steady idol]

make it without transparency

some tutu skirts are solid/opaque

[odd sigil]

Does anyone have time to make me an avatar

[magic slate]

join vrtraders, link in #community-servers-old

[prime ocean]

Does anyone know a way I could have mesh with alpha be just be mesh

[magic slate]

mesh doesn't really have alpha - what do you mean?

[steady idol]

meshes dont have alpha at all
if you mean materials then you just dont make it transparent
if it requires transparency then go in and edit the mesh in blender or dont use it at all

[pastel storm]

What quest do I have to do to get an avatar?

[cyan apex]

avatar-quest refers to the platform quest

as in the oculus/meta quest family of vr headsets

[pastel storm]

I know

I have one

I was being a smartass

[novel jolt]

lol

[modern escarp]

lol

[modern escarp]

Check your index im sure youll find your quest

[pastel storm]

Ok

I’m not gonna get on for like another month-

[thin bobcat]

What's the best way to get around backface culling, is it just duplicating mesh and reverting normals?

[inner rivet]

Blud is all over.

[solar sky]

does anyone knows why the standard lit shader dosen't want the emission to stay on?

[late silo]

Yeah Im having the same problem

its annoying

[rugged tulip]

Hey. Has anyone encountered an issue since moving to 2022 project where animating emissions on Standard Lite is breaking now?

I have been giving Quest avatars clothing brightness sliders and hair emission controls using this and now after the swap to 2022 this seems to be breaking.

Additionally I noticed that the state of the emissions on the model in the editor is reverting to no emissions until you open one of the materials in the inspector and then at material will show the correct emission state.

[rugged tulip]

I assume the above issue and my own are closely related lol

[cyan apex]

tons of people seem to be having that issue

[rugged tulip]

Gotcha. Well hopefully it is addressable then.

And not a new limitation

This may work for some people trying to animate the emission values, but I was able to get some of the animations to work if I opened all of the materials in the inspector prior to upload, but it weirdly only fixed animating the value and not the hue.

[zealous cobalt]

Hey!! Sorry if this is the wrong channel. I like an avatar that I found, but it's rated VeryPoor. I want to optimize it, but since it's not mine I don't really know what to do, or if I can optimize it. Any tips?

[cyan apex]

if you didn't make it, then there's nothing you can do to optimize it

[prisma shoal]

more specifically you'll need the file and permission to edit it
try contacting the user who uploaded it, or perhaps googling their (or the avatar's) name

[hybrid furnace]

has anyone got some cool flashy interactive avatars that they would be able to show me or let me use please?

[pastel storm]

Anyone know where I can get some Ensemble Stars Avatars? (Specifically Subaru Akehoshi)

[charred scarab]

Can someone make a avatar for me

[prisma shoal]

not in this server, and definitely not for free

[cyan apex]

#community-servers-old message

[loud fiber]

keep getting this and dont know how to fix it

[loud fiber]

i deleted a bunch of stuff and it didnt change it 1 bit

[cyan apex]

did you try uploading again?

that number does not change dynamically

[misty kindle]

for some reason an avi im working on is suddenly 3mb over max for quest, even though i have other versions with more verts, more materials and more textures that work just fine, any ideas?

i deleted evry mesh on it and its still 12mb???

[cyan apex]

does it show that when you upload?

or does it only show that in the sdk

[loud fiber]

idk how to do it. im basically new to all this avi uploading thing

[cyan apex]

the build & publish button in the sdk control panel

[misty kindle]

yeah it shows when i try to upload

legit an armature with nothing on it is apparently 12mb

[cyan apex]

try switching the build target to windows, then building a test copy

load that test copy into https://vsk.lox9973.com/abstat/

[misty kindle]

thats not the issue, i belive its unity being dumb, cause nnow that i think about it ive had this issue before and i just made a new project and imported all the quest stuff over and it worked

cause i know the rex FT base isnt 12mb

[misty kindle]

its showing meshes that i deleted off the avi

[misty kindle]

i had to delete the meshes through blender rather than unity ig

[eternal trench]

Anyone know the work around of placing things in the world

[cyan apex]

you can't on quest

it requires constraints which are not supported on android

[flint forge]

You could attach the thing to a stretch bone with 0 strength.

Stretch bone just being a physbone with basically infinite stretch.

[late silo]

Particle effect

[carmine slate]

i know that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDbn2na8yhk&list=PLh9MSw3fBPxEjLVdHYA7CuKRm8n3RxWly&index=14&pp=gAQBiAQB8AUB

[twilit sapphire]

what do you guys reccomend for not having the face planes be visible

this is toon lit and its definetly not lit

needs to be mobile shader

[random comet]

are those different meshes?

[twilit sapphire]

yeah

[random comet]

did you set lighting probe anchors?

[twilit sapphire]

nah i dont know about that ill look into it

[twilit sapphire]

perfect thank you!

[arctic zinc]

Anyone know a fix around color changing the hair with quest shaders on the body material?, cause no matter what I try it changes the color for the whole body and not just the hair

[steady idol]

Separate mesh

All unity knows is animate the color on the body mesh

Stuff like poiyomi can get around it for being a more dense shader with the built in functionality

[arctic zinc]

Welp, guess Imma just do material swaps cause I ain't redoing the pc version lol

[steady idol]

Just make a quest version with the hair as a separate mesh

[cyan apex]

or animate the uv offset

much more performant option

and would even allow things like hue shifts if done right

they already have more than 10 meshes it seems

[steady idol]

Also a ton of materials

[arctic zinc]

how would I do that?

Cause rn I got my material's fairly low and my meshes kinda low lol, so if there's a way to Not have to make more unnecessary adjustments pls tell me 😭

[cyan apex]

You have to understand how to work with and modify uv maps

Then you can put multiple colors or variants of the hair color onto the texture, next to each other

And then offset its uv map by animating these values to move it to one of the variants

[arctic zinc]

I really don't wanna make one but, if it means the avi being optimized so be it ig

gotta love quest stuff

🥲

[blazing raptor]

Anyone here know anyone who makes vrc furry avatars with a drawing sort of look to them?

[steady idol]

You can try vrctraders discord

[blazing raptor]

I'll check that out

[steady idol]

Or #1138520828556890214 if you arent wanting to com and just want one

[blazing raptor]

I'm looking to commission

[steady idol]

Then vrctraders

[blazing raptor]

Would you be able to send me an invite or is an invite for it in this server?

[cyan apex]

#community-servers-old message

[twilit sapphire]

im using the current avatar builder and i cant switch to android, it gives the error "Switching to Android:WindowsStandaloneSupport is disabled" in console

i think sdks are missing or not where they were in the old version

[cyan apex]

you are missing android build target support

[fiery minnow]

you need to install the dedicated android unity module on the unity website

[cyan apex]

press Ctrl+Shift+B in a unity project and install android build target support from there

i already have it installed, but it would look like on iOS here

[twilit sapphire]

ah alright

[vernal trellis]

How do i make a 2d avatar compatible with quest

[fiery minnow]

if it's 2d, you create a plane, you place the texture and you publish it as an avatar

[vernal trellis]

No like am trying to make it companitible with quest

[winter glade]

You'll have to switch the build mode in the vrc upload menu to android

[prisma shoal]

if you mean transparency then you'll need to make the mesh be in the shape of your character instead of just a square
i'm not sure if there's an automatic way to do it

[undone dune]

Is anyone else having issues logging into the VRC SDK Control Panel?
I'm entering my credentials correctly - double checked by logging into the web - but it still says invalid.

nvm.

It worked just now

[tough kelp]

Does anyone here do requests?

[wide heart]

Requests? Wdym?

[runic pike]

does anyone have any tips?

ive already deleted clothing, comppressed my texture amd stuff

[cyan apex]

do you have vrcfury? if you do, add a blendshape optimizer feature to your avatar

[steady idol]

Not here
Too many scammers
And people like being paid

[tough kelp]

Payment isn't an issue

But understood

[steady idol]

Vrctraders

[tough kelp]

However the avatars wouldn't be for vrchat

So don't know if that throws a cog in the works

[cyan apex]

you can commission any 3d work or even 2d work there

[steady idol]

#community-servers-old message

[cyan apex]

be it animations for a game you're working on, a model for printing, just 2d art etc

[tough kelp]

Thankyou

[robust harbor]

Can anybody help? Whenever I try switching to android it keeps saying this

[steady idol]

You dont have android installed

[robust harbor]

Ik I just figured it out after like 3 hours 💀

[balmy yarrow]

how did you fix that error if you dont mind me asking?

[robust harbor]

Just go into this menu

Also ignore the avatar 💀

Go to android and it should say something about a download

And ur done

[balmy yarrow]

👍

ok, anyone android player just straight disabled even with it installed?

[cyan apex]

that means it's likely not installed

press ctrl+shift+b and check if the android platform is greyed out

[deft saddle]

i bought this avatar and im trying to make it quest , everything else is fine but as soon as i make the materials toonlit or mapcap it turns red its supposed to be white

im useing 2020 unity

[random comet]

remove vertex colors from the model

VRCQuestTools can do this for you

[deft saddle]

ty i was stuck on it for the longest of times

[arctic zinc]

try using an addon called ( BuildSizeViewer ) you can download it from git hub, shows you what is taking up what percentage on ya avi

I hope this helps lol

It won't show up as a unity file when you download it, but all ya have to do is drag and drop it into your asset section in unity

[cyan apex]

a lot of the fbx size comes from blendshapes :P

[arctic zinc]

ye

Sometimes it can just be some textures you didn't see tho so I love using build size viewer for that reason

[runic pike]

I already have it lmao 😭

[arctic zinc]

lmao

😂

[runic pike]

But I ended up just deleting a bunch of shits

[arctic zinc]

did you try reducing the polygons on the avi?

[runic pike]

I hate having to go into blender for that 😭

[arctic zinc]

felt lol

[runic pike]

If I would've thought it through I probably would have done it before I started

But I'm not the brightest ;-;

[arctic zinc]

If ya like I don't mind helping ya out with the blender stuff

[runic pike]

Sure! Maybe in a bit though I'm chillin, I just got done cleaning

[arctic zinc]

yea no worries, just shoot me a dm later if ya want

[runic pike]

Alright!

[arctic zinc]

Imma go make some jello☺️

[fresh musk]

pls help mee i dont know hoow to fix this

[white epoch]

So, Im having some massive issues with getting toggles to work on quest. I bought an avi, and tried converting it to quest, however most of the toggles are not working properly, even though i've tried setting them up the same way tutorials have described it

[cyan apex]

parameters sync as one long string of bits cross-platform

so if they are not in the same order, or there are missing parameters somewhere in the middle, they won't align properly

[marble dew]

Hey everyone, Pleasure meeting I'm currently working on building a avatar from scratch for the first time and was wondering if anyone was interested in help me with some tips and issues I have .

[white epoch]

its not a crossplatform issue, they just straight up wont work when you try and toggle stuff on or off on Quest.

It honestly feels like an issue with the animator, however im not experienced enough with it to determine if thats the actual issue

[pastel storm]

Do the avatar special effects work on an oculus? If so how would one activate them.

[summer zodiac]

hey so i'm about to help my gf make her first custom avatar using vroid and she's a quest user. i've done this before but not in a long time so i'm sure things have changed and i could use a reminder of the landmines to look out for. like how quest lacks transparent/cutout shaders so things like eyes and eyebrows take special attention. any other stuff we need to watch out for in the early steps?

[mortal dome]

Is there any really good quest Avis cause I need new ones

[late silo]

there are literally thousands of avatars on quest just look

[mortal dome]

Ok

[unborn gate]

Some of my avatars that I've made quest just seem to be naked for quest users ingame? I've tried using gesture manager and avatar emulator in unity to check that no animations are broken but everything works fine. I also tried to upload the quest version of the avatar on to pc but still everything works fine. What could be the issue?

[lyric meadow]

please help any way to view everyone’s avatars at once in VRchat?

[magic slate]

Do you mean the ones that you have to click on and say "show avatar" in Quest? Nope, can't - this is good though, it's trying to help you have a reasonably performant experience

[magic slate]

If you have clothing off by default and only on because of an animation, then anyone who's got your animations disabled will see only the default setup - naked. Better to default clothing and such to on.

[lyric meadow]

Thanks for your help! 🙂

[cyan apex]

are your expression parameters in the same order?

[unborn gate]

They are on by default and I've asked quest users to fully enable my avatar before and it had no change

[unborn gate]

Yes I just used quest tools to convert the avatar so parameters were left unchanged

[white epoch]

Is there anyone i can hop on call with maybe to get some help with this?

nvm found the issue

ok double nevermind i have found a bigger more confusing issue

[magic slate]

there's always one of those

[obtuse sundial]

Does anyone know any good regulus avatar worlds?

[magic slate]

#1138520828556890214

[obtuse sundial]

There's only 2 searches. 1 is a question and 1 isn't a good one

[nimble prairie]

Regulus aren’t supposed to be public, don’t use public ones

If you want a regulus avi buy the model

[obtuse sundial]

Ooh

Does that work good for quest? (I'm not a PC user) so I'm unsure how avi modeling works

[nimble prairie]

Well you’ll need a pc to upload it

[brazen pelican]

ola quick question I've seen a few Quest avatars over time with World Constraint toggles or something very similar but cant find any source's on how to do it for quest anyone know of any?

[magic slate]

Quest doesn't support constraints, it must have been done some other way

[dire quiver]

How do I search for a specific type of avatar (like anime characters)?

[pine vector]

On VRChat Mobile Standard Lite: If I uncheck the emission box on a material, then hit ctrl +s to save the scene it turns on the emission anyways but the box in the inspector tab is still off. Is Standard Lite broken?

[cyan apex]

Yeah, it doesn’t seem to save properly with the new sdk

Try editing the material directly

[pastel storm]

how do i make avatars quest compatible

[random comet]

did you install Unity through the creator companion?

[pastel storm]

yeah

not on this pc tho i'll do it later on my other pc

[random comet]

if it was a manual install of it through Unity hub you'll need to make sure you installed the "Android Build Support" module

[kindred fractal]

You can use quest conversion with VRCQuestTools on github or do it by hand by changing shaders and optimizing stuff

[prime ocean]

Who here loves mos

[fluid birch]

Quest capability ey?
Never done that.

[wraith notch]

i have an avatar that is chashing questies, but works fine on pc. how would i go about fixing it?

[cyan apex]

you'd need to provide more information

[graceful geyser]

converting a vroid over to quest and using VRCQuest tools to do the bulk of the conversion but... eyebrows and a couple of other "cutout" features are rendering with the ugly black non-transparent boxes around it due to Mobile/Toon Lit shaders... is there a work around?

[flint forge]

Bringing it into blender and using the knife tool to cut out, manually, those features.

[tiny narwhal]

so like I have a problem, I am trying to use the same blender project to deploy my avatar for pc and quest however when I switch to quest after deploying the pc build it results in it breaking the pc build with it loading the robot avatar instead and not showing that it has quest support at all.

I even went as far as changing the build config from both the SDK menu, as well as File -> Build Settings and still no changes.

[kindred escarp]

shader or anything is using only for Quest ?

do you have a image to show how is SDK look now ?

[tiny narwhal]

It has only poly’s in red, and bones in medium due to not being able to eliminate a bit more on the triangles (or rather quads that I import as triangles).

Which show as just over 51k.

I would import them as quads however I am using AMD and we all know what NVIDIA did to AMD to mess them up HARD when it comes to tessellation.

[tiny narwhal]

poiyomi toon shader ye.

[kindred escarp]

iirc poiyomi not support in quest ?

[robust harbor]

Is it just me or at times I can’t open unity and I have to factory reset my computer just to use it again 💀

I have to do the same thing everytime I wanna use unity

So either my computer sucks or unity hates me

[tiny narwhal]

no need to go that far

when it stops working it is usually when you did not use it in a few days and it having not contacted there servers in that time

[cyan apex]

Factory resetting your pc to use unity is wild

[tiny narwhal]

so it then goes to think your license is not valid and wants you to go into the hub to return it and obtain a “fresh” copy.

I know that code is stupid.

[hollow crow]

Hey, anyone having trouble uploading quest versions of avis with the new unity ver & sdk?

It doesn't throw an error at all when uploading, but on vrc the pc version is broken (robot) and quest doesn't show up at all.

[tiny narwhal]

that is what happens to me too

[hollow flare]

I'm trying to understand how the expression parameters sync work, it makes sense that all parameters should be in the same order (the expression parameters in quest are included and in the same order for PC), but any extra parameters in PC makes Quest goes bonkers, I would think those would just get discarded and not used.

[plain pond]

It seems that mobile/standard lite emission in unity 2022 for android/quest functions in unity, but does not reflect in-game. 2019 works fine. a few others found the same issue

[hollow flare]

This still causes issues anyways.

[hollow flare]

Okay doing more debugging there are some stuff happening behind the scenes.

Seems like the Expression Parameters are being organized by type internally! It's either Int/Floats/Bools, or Floats/Ints/Bools
Which means if Extra has Ints or Floats, it will offset the Bools since they go to the end, very strange behavior honestly. I tested this by adding only the floats in Extra to Quest , I can add them to the end or start of the Expression Parameter list and it works (the toggles).

So that makes me think the order of the Expression Parameters matter by type, while the order of the types does not.

[plain pond]

I had this issue before. If the avatar you are trying to upload has too many errors (in my case, it was extremely unoptimized and went far beyond all the limits) it will simply not report any errors, and let you upload anyways, resulting in an error robot.

Also found that when switching platforms, if you don't save and exit, relaunch the project, then when you upload, it will not update the avatar. If uploading a new avatar, simply no avatar will be uploaded.
tested in unity 2022.

[hollow flare]

Okay after more testing, it is Ints&Floats then Bools in order

So all Ints & Floats need to be in the same order, then all Bools in the same order. Since Ints & Floats are first, Ints & Floats in Extra would also need to be in Quest to avoid issues with Bool expression parameters, since they are at the end. So if I have 3 floats in Extra, need to be sure they are also in Quest Expression Parameters.

[cyan apex]

Interesting, thanks for your testing!

I'll repost this to the vrcfury discord in response to someone having issues with this lol

[robust harbor]

I keep getting this error whenever I try opening unity/unity hub 💀

[robust harbor]

I've done it like over 15 times thats the worst part 😭

Time to factory reset again

[tiny narwhal]

sfc /scannow

[robust harbor]

Idk wtf that means

[nova sleet]

Wtf mean what the fuck

[rugged tulip]

@late silo
I found the solution to this if you have not figured it out yet.

In debug, set the second parameter for _EnableEmission to 1 in the Floats Saved Property.

[tiny narwhal]

Sometimes I wish I could edit a quest shader in a way to trick the VRCSDK to think it is a default shader to disable backface culling on a hair of mine for my avatar.

[tiny narwhal]

Looks like there is no way and no option to force backface culling to be off in cases of hair which screws up most free hairs oof.

[magic slate]

yep, quest won't do that

[tiny narwhal]

yeah which is kinda dumb as it blows out 99.999999% of hairs that people can find for free and/or paid anyways.

because most of them depend on backface culling being off.

[magic slate]

someone should make some that doesn't require that then 🙂

[tiny narwhal]

hard to do then.

Some would duplicate the mesh but we all know what it would do when the hair is alreadt 3k poly and duplicating it for the other face would double it.

And that does not account for 10k poly head/face body, outfit, etc.

20k polys for most avatars is simply not possible on quest sadly even when you try to cut it down as much as possible too.

[magic slate]

yep, I know what it takes, but also why this is a good limitation

[tiny narwhal]

yeah but

I feel 32k poly is a better limit than 20k for avi's

because those with 21k~just under 32k becomes oof.

[magic slate]

sure, especially with the improvements in Unity 2022, I can see this as a reasonable argument

[tiny narwhal]

yeah

besides quest supports importing entire avi as quads right?

because my avatar is all quads in blender and when imported like that in unity is just under 32k.

[magic slate]

I haven't heard that

[tiny narwhal]

😅

[jagged sequoia]

that is incorrect there is no such thing as a quad in unity

all the engine knows how to deal with is triangles

[tiny narwhal]

are you sure about that?

on the fbx import settings it has a keep quads toggle.

[magic slate]

pretty sure that doesn't do what you think

especially since the GPU only wants tris

[flint forge]

Doing a bit of researching it seems like the toggle is around for the rare occasion when a specifically made shader might benefit from it.

[magic slate]

ooh, probably tessellation

[jagged sequoia]

the Avatar ranking system only counts triangles

[hushed monolith]

Hey , I’m trying to upload an avatar to quest (I’m using a quest file ) I converted it to android and attached the PC blueprint but it’s still PC only . I don’t understand why it’s still not quest compatible ?? Can someone please help me out

[jagged sequoia]

did you actually upload the Android build

[hushed monolith]

Yes . I uploaded the PC version first then opened a new project , imported the quest version of the avi , and switched the platform to android . I then attached the PC blueprint , uploaded and it was still PC only

[old dawn]

why does the hair on my avatar turn black when I use quest shaders? the ears use the same but they are correct

this is what it looks like for context

[cyan apex]

vertex colors

use vrcquesttools or blender to remove vertex colors

[rancid isle]

Remove the blueprint probably

[cyan apex]

?

[rancid isle]

I've dealt with that problem & by detaching it, it worked for me

If not, it kept exporting as pc even if I set it to android

[cyan apex]

i don't think you're understanding what they're trying to do

they want to upload it as both pc and quest to the same blueprint id

which will make the avatar cross-platform

[rancid isle]

Ohh ok !

Do yk how to fix it?

Since I need the same thing sooner or later for my avis

[cyan apex]

fix what?

[rancid isle]

Their issue

[cyan apex]

my guess is that they didn't copy the correct id

[hushed monolith]

I did copy the exact ID from the PC version of the model- I’ve had this issue before with another model and still don’t understand how to fix it

[pastel storm]

It's something to do with the sdk. So if you upload it to quest somehow it still only uploads to pc even with no blueprint or a new blueprint

[hushed monolith]

Soooo…. How do I fix it ..?

[tiny narwhal]

it works if you change build configuration using File -> Build Settings -> Android -> Switch to this config then log out of your vrchat account on the sdk dialog. Close Unity, Reopen Unity, relog into the VRChat SDK dialog.

There now you can accurately see everything for quest

[cloud trail]

I need help finding where to buy this avatar

[lost sequoia]

#1138520828556890214

[robust harbor]

Is anybody else getting this error whenever trying to open up unity hub or unity 💀

[tiny narwhal]

run sfc /scannow

and chkdsk

[frozen marsh]

Is there a problem with uploading Quest versions ? I am trying to upload a quest version of a pc avtaar, but it just does not appear as Quest compatible

Upload says it was succesful, no errors

It's been like 2 hours

[tiny nimbus]

anyone know how to fix this?

keeps happening with quest materials

[tiny narwhal]

check your normals as one cannot do backface culling to off

yet

I do find it dumb one cannot set it to off for a special hair shader smh

[tiny nimbus]

backface is off that is the headache part

[magic slate]

Go into Blender and flip the wrong faces, you can use the "recalculate outside" option in the Normals menu

[tiny nimbus]

alright

[tiny narwhal]

how did you turn it off for quest tho?

[tiny nimbus]

I fixed it

it was very stupid

[tiny nimbus]

blender also

[magic slate]

What was it, flipped face normals?

[tiny nimbus]

messed up vertexs and had to recaculate inside instead of outside

[magic slate]

ah yep

[tiny nimbus]

and had to fixed one vertex which was a mess

works now tho

[magic slate]

actually this is a good reminder for me right now to check face orientation

[tiny nimbus]

lol yeah

was a big headache

[magic slate]

yep, there's one object, oops

[tiny narwhal]

how did the vertexs get messed up?

[terse shoal]

Yo

[tiny nimbus]

1 tringale was a mess

had like 3 layers

and a mess on the last one

[tiny narwhal]

why did it have 3 layers?

[astral moon]

Can you make avatars on meta quest 2

[tiny narwhal]

they plan to eventually remove support for quest 1 and 2 for quest 3 ^

because quest 3 is afaik just BETTER

[nimble meadow]

too many quest 2 users

i may be wrong but im p sure quest 1 is alr unsupported

[magic slate]

on the quest? no. for the quest, using a PC? Yep.

[astral moon]

I don’t have a pc

[pastel storm]

Anyone have an Anita max Wynn avatar

[tiny narwhal]

now this is funny, when merging my hair mesh alone in blender flips it's normals so I go into edit mode prior now before I merge each mesh for export as fbx into a single mesh for my avatar and then flipping the normals so when I ctrl+j the hair would flip itself back to how it was prior 😅.

[robust harbor]

Anybody else having problems with the newest unity version? 💀

[tiny narwhal]

everything is working fine for me, what seems to be the problem for you?

Ever since I switched to quest config in my File -> Build Settings... menu then loaded up the SDK panel to logged out, and then fully close Unity AND Unity Hub and relaunched from creator companion and logged back in I have not yet seen problems with uploading to quest again.

[sharp olive]

how to make extraordinary reflection material

i want make the most metalic metal

[magic slate]

smoothness = 1 (or roughness = 0), metallic = 1

[cyan apex]

you can also use a matcap, those can look even more metallic

[oak lodge]

Anyone wanna trade Avis dm me

[late silo]

https://tenor.com/view/chissmyhutt-swtor-cringe-gaming-gif-11671643804740132431

[steady idol]

trading avis is not a thing

there isnt actually anything you are actually trading

[modern escarp]

so i have this avatar i bought thats PC only and i bought the quest version as well. is it possible to wear the PC version and use the blueprint ID to upload the quest version so that questies can see my avi or is that a silly idea my friend lied to me about?

[steady idol]

dont ask in multiple channels
use the same blueprint id
pc and quest are different builds and needs the same blueprint id or you end up with a pc only and quest only

[robust whale]

yes that is extremely common

[cyan apex]

that's how you upload an avatar cross-platform

just publish an avatar with the same blueprint id to both windows and android build targets

[surreal raptor]

Does anyone do free avatars

[jagged sequoia]

nobody's going to make you an avatar for free

[chilly night]

Yeah but at least you can have a avatar unlike me because it doesnt appear

[solid scroll]

I hate mobile

[tiny narwhal]

I been thinking about getting a Quest 3, however it is sad that VRChat does not seem to support it's half-body tracking according to filian 😅.

Yes the streamer who broke over 20 headsets in a year.

[random comet]

Would need native implementation from vrchat to get it working

[tiny narwhal]

yeah

And quest 2 and 1 suffer from not having it and would require them to know between the 3,

[flint forge]

That feature launched when the dev team was winding down (making sure things will work while they are gone) for the holiday break, which they got back from last week.

[tiny narwhal]

Oh wait VRChat is dropping quest 1 eventually anyways.

[flint forge]

Already dropped

been months

[tiny narwhal]

nice

good riddance to Quest 1.

[flint forge]

It doesn't change anything

[random comet]

Figuring out what quest you’re using in code isn’t much of an issue

[flint forge]

They aren't going to increase any limits just because they dropped the Quest 1, it was suffering severely.
The Quest 2 is also suffering.

[tiny narwhal]

Quest 3 can handle a little more but still suffering

Once they drop quest 2 support they could increase the 20k poly limit to 32k though

[flint forge]

Or, they could let performance stay better.

(Going by VRChat comments, that is what they are planning)

Would assume that when the Quest 2 gets properly dropped by Meta though (which will likely be a few years), they will do some changes. The Quest 4 would probably already be out.

[tiny narwhal]

Also it seems the Quest 3 can share some of it's GPU load with a PC's GPU so yeah

[flint forge]

Uuh, no?

[jagged sequoia]

don't expect the texture memory stat to change even after a quest 2 deprecation

[flint forge]

Yeah, that couldn't change.

[tiny narwhal]

I don't even use 3 MB of texture memory even on my PC version.

[jagged sequoia]

it's either entirely using its own GPU or the PC GPU but not a shared workload

[tiny narwhal]

nice

yeah if I could reduce that from 8k to 2k I would be sitting at 32k poly on my avatar.

[jagged sequoia]

you could honestly just texture those gloves on to the hands

as those have like zero noticeable impact on the silhouette

[tiny narwhal]

That is actually cut from the base.

I made the gloves from the base itself by cutting them from it.

The low poly base just was 21k poly and I would love to cut them further.

hmm probably could optimize some of them by merging some of the edge loops.

Maybe also some of the "rows"

[jagged sequoia]

still not seeing anything I couldn't just be a texture

[tiny narwhal]

it becomes a texture after atlas 😅.

[spiral tartan]

hi

[tiny narwhal]

it helps optimimize my vram that way as then the rgb parts of each mesh becomes 10x10px 😅.

[spiral tartan]

do anyone actually do commissions for avatars?

[tiny narwhal]

most people here scam people when they see someone ask that.

so usually nobody do commissions that are legit from here.

[spiral tartan]

ok

I am actually I’m trying to avoid scammers I got scammed on Twitter, before

[cyan apex]

yup, if anyone dms you about commissions, they are likely a scammer

if you want a safe place to commission someone for an avatar, go to vrc traders

#community-servers-old message

[tiny narwhal]

or go to the pup avatar school discord server

where you can then chat with pup and others there for commissions that are not scams.

[molten elm]

or you could go to legit any avatar creator's server

most creators do comissions

[cyan apex]

vrc traders has very strict authorization guidelines, it's the safest place to go to, especially if you're looking for a from scratch avatar costing multiple hundred dollars

[burnt shoal]

I went on my quest and i wanted an avatar they were quest compatible and it said "PC/mobile"

And idk how to fix

[steady idol]

you are mobile on the quest

[burnt shoal]

I don't know..

[steady idol]

the quest is literally the mobile version
the quest is an android phone

[tiny narwhal]

true

btw after dissolving some edge loops I managed to go from 46k to 34k poly. I really hope I can find enough edge loops that I can dissolve with minimal change to the mesh to make it go under 20k poly for both PC and quest 😅.

[cyan apex]

find relatively flat areas with little deformation

then dissolve edge loops there

[tiny narwhal]

yeah I been looking for those and also been dissolving the gloves to make them look more like gloves as well

which reduced their poly count alone from 8k to just under 3k.

oh my on Quest the texture vram usage 😅.

on PC under 2.3 MB.

[tiny narwhal]

LMAO if I press on "Keep Quads" it goes down in poly to this:

[tiny narwhal]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/avatar-30/p/on-quest-make-a-fur-shader

[cyan apex]

any fur shader, including warren's fast fur lite, would perform very poorly on quest, if they even run at all

also, there are no third party shaders whitelisted on quest at all

[flint forge]

The lite wouldn't work at all, it requires geometry shaders, which the Quest GPU can't understand at all.
The superlight might, but the Quest GPU also can't handle transparency (that stuff was removed so it would be more power efficient.) so it would run miserably.

Even then, I don't think any of those shaders would run, the Quest GPU would likely be missing some important part.

[tiny narwhal]

Yeah, even ones that duplicate the quest toonlit shaders to add the "cull: off" setting to it does not work either so one can have double sided faces on some materials as well.

😅

[cyan apex]

cause that doubles the render cost

[cyan apex]

quest gpu when geometry shaders

[tiny narwhal]

Also the quest GPU: able to render hundreds of thousands of pixels every frame.

[cyan apex]

okay?

[hasty parrot]

any fix?

[random comet]

press Ctrl + Shift + B, click the android tab, do the method that it'll tell you to do to install the android build module

[obtuse sundial]

Does anyone have any good recommended public rooms for avatars? I know there's prismic's but they don't give all the best ones. All the best avatars tho are PC versions. If it was quest worlds that would be heavily appreciated

[lusty compass]

I’ve been trying to this for so long lol and I still have yet to get it. When uploading and you have both avatars, one quest and one PC (two scenes), what platform do you select in the VRChag SDK menu?

[lusty compass]

Oh wait

[civic crest]

for some reason, when i use a pc shader (poiyomi, standard lit) the avatar looks fine, but when i use any of the mobile shaders the textures break?? (the one with the lime head and torso is the broken version. i know for a fact its not vert colors i ported this model myself, of which my friend made. i did atlas the materials but i dont think thats the issue either

[rose yew]

Vertex paint seems like

[civic crest]

it was, odd, i dont remember adding vertex paint data

nor there being any in blender's mat preview mode

[simple zealot]

Hey, is there anyone with experience of uploading Rexouium avatar for Quest? I don't know how to deal with one material for EyeLens... On PC it's transparent.. On quest I can not make it transparent which makes the eyes a single color and it looks awful.

[glass trail]

So, when setting up a quest avi, and you're setting up the materials, you can make a material swap or an animation to change the material on a model. Obviously this feature is usually setup on pc, then ignored on quest. Im looking at a situation where i want to take the material swap thats being done on PC, and have it work on quest.

My normal method to doing this, is to change the model i want to do material swaps on to have a "1" at the end, then remake any toggles or animations that use that model, and then make the material swap animation using quest materials on that renamed quest mesh. Is there a better way to do this? Or am i asking a loaded question lol.

[unborn gate]

Has vrc changed something how quest sees the particle shaders? I've used the multiply particle shader to fix partially transparent textures like holes in shirts for example but now the quest users I've asked can't see them anymore but used to in the past. Is there just no way to have transparent parts anymore?

[fallow seal]

why when i upload my avi for quest does my toggles and emotes and walking animation not work

am i allowed to move thing out of my avatars hierarchy

[golden sparrow]

If you move them to the root tree, then no. Though for stuff like prefabs from the assets folder (think world.prefab) then yes.
As for why toggles dont work, some creators dont support toggles on quest since the vertices might put the avatar into the very poor rank. Walking animation should be easy to fix, just ensure the same base layer controller is used in both the PC and quest version of the model (so long as the animation is only stuff like the humanoid armature and nothing like special fx)

[fallow seal]

well the toggles worked before but i ended up removing a script that i think my pc avatar used

because everything works for my pc avatar and the toggles used to be synced but idk if its the script or my hierarchy

i moved particles out of my avatars hierarchy

[golden sparrow]

The toggles worked on the quest version?

[fallow seal]

yes

like i could toggle my glasses and stuf and use my dance emotes

and my friends saw

[golden sparrow]

Well. Is your menu and parameters asset still in your descriptor

[fallow seal]

yes

[golden sparrow]

And the menu does show up in game?

[fallow seal]

yes

[golden sparrow]

Have you perhaps looked at the debug menu to see how your states are transitioning

[fallow seal]

no

im gonna mess around a bit and then be back

[pastel storm]

Is anyone able to open a blender file and show me what this avi looks like?

[pastel storm]

im trying to make a workable portal gun on quest using a chain of physbones with specific settings. but, the object at the end of the chain is kinda rotating a bit. I was wondering if anybody had done this before and knows the settings for the physbone to make it stay.

[pastel storm]

Can I have someone upload my avi for me?

[steady idol]

You cant share files if its a paid base
Against tos for someone else to upload to your account

[pastel storm]

I made it^^ from scratch

I just need it uploaded

[steady idol]

Why cant you upload it yourself?

[pastel storm]

And it kinda be a bday present

Because I spent alot of time sketching and then taking that sketch and making it into something and it's my bday and I wanna chill;-;

There's honestly no other reason than I want to feel special

Also why can't they just upload it to their own account and let me clone it

[magic slate]

because then it's public and if they take it down it's gone.

[pastel storm]

Oh well then they could just not wear it and no one would see it! Other than me

[craggy trellis]

Why not just... upload it? You already went through the trouble of making the model. Setting it up in Unity and uploading it should be simple

[pastel storm]

I don't want tooooooooooo

It's my birthday I want to feel special darnit

[magic slate]

happy birthday?

[cyan apex]

omg wanna date

[random comet]

sums up the average Discord e couple

[nimble prairie]

Really isn’t long of a process to upload stuff

[tiny narwhal]

omg if I had 1$ for every time I seen someone say "I am lazy", "I don't want to", "It's my birthday I want to relax and feel special while everyone else does the hard work for me" I would be bill gates rich right about now.

[steady idol]

as soon as the birthday card was pulled I just stopped talking

aint gonna argue with stupid

[pastel storm]

Lol thats crazy how it's a bad thing to want to feel special with the work I already did

Grow a pair dude

[steady idol]

you can very easily upload it yourself

[pastel storm]

I literally wasn't asking anything wrong or bad just say you don't have any empathy lol

[cyan apex]

chicken sandwich

[random comet]

besides the berating of "do it yourself" you should look into the security of why you shouldn't do it. You're giving a random stranger on the internet access to your account and they could basically do anything on it, as well if that person has their VRChat account banned it'll ban you as well as when an account gets banned it bans any associated account that the main IP has logged into.

[tiny narwhal]

not to mention if that other person gets banned it bans the user who uploaded it for them.

Also the fact that sending a random stranger your avatar's files could result in them instead LEAKING said files.

😅

Not saying that I would do it, just that you can never trust any random person. You just don't know what they will do to get an advantage.

Besides if they don't leak said files, they could do things as far is taking credit for your own work if you made it from scratch too and then selling it.

[steady idol]

Not to mention the other side of the issue
If they upload it as public for you to clone that makes it where everyone can use it not specifically you

And now that person has to keep it uploaded as public or you lose it until you yourself uploads it

[tiny narwhal]

yep

KEKW

because then anyone can search for it in avatar worlds / the UI

[pastel storm]

𝐂𝐚𝐧 𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐦𝐚𝐤𝐞 𝐚 𝐯𝐞𝐥𝐯𝐞𝐭 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐯𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐯𝐚𝐭𝐚𝐫?

𝐎𝐫 𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭 𝐯𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐞𝐫

[steady idol]

Go to vrctraders and ask there
Too many scams here

[pastel storm]

𝟗𝐤

𝐎𝐤*

[pastel storm]

𝐂𝐚𝐧 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐭𝐞𝐥𝐥 𝐦𝐞 𝐰𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐠𝐨

𝐎𝐫 𝐬𝐦𝐭𝐡

[cyan apex]

why funny font

[magic slate]

it's linked in #community-servers-old

[timber hornet]

Does anyone know how to find codes for avatar when you can get a hold of The owner?

[timber hornet]

@

[magic slate]

codes?

[wise sorrel]

Anyone here Know a good jujutsu kaisen avatar? (I'm mainly looking for hakari if you even know what jujutsu kaisen is)

[magic slate]

#1138520828556890214

[uncut veldt]

Having some weird issue rn

the base model I'm using is like

7mb

and when uploading, its claiming its 18

I removed all the textures so its just an empty material its legit just the raw fbx

[finite compass]

quest converting an avi how do i fix this? (the eyelashes eyebrows and baby hairs) pc pic included

[lucid sphinx]

if anyone has any aot titan avatars Dm me or avatars that summon nukes

[finite compass]

#1138520828556890214

[tiny narwhal]

optimize your polys a bit more

[tiny narwhal]

quest does not support cutouts

combine the eyebrows and eyelashes with the base model texture somehow

I wish I knew how to properly do it though.

[finite compass]

idk howw to do that-- TvT

[tiny narwhal]

😅

[tiny narwhal]

same

[cyan apex]

you'll need to import the model into blender and use the knife tool to cut out the eyebrows

[finite compass]

i managed to fix the eyebrows with the blendshapes just stuck on eyelashes and the babyhairs now,, trying my best not to get blender

[timber hornet]

Like for the locked Avis

[cyan apex]

what locked avis

[magic slate]

Haha yeah

[late silo]

If the avatar is password locked and the code wasn't given to you then the avatar is not for you

[flint forge]

Very likely then the size of the mesh, blendshapes take up a lot of space.

If you have VRCFury installed, put on the blendshape optimizer, it removes all blendshapes that aren't used.

[rose yew]

If you want that avi in vrchat for Quest, you NEED to go into Blender, I 100% believe you'll need to optimize that mesh too

[timber hornet]

No shit I mean if it’s say in a public search world and u can’t get ahold of the owner to get the code

Goddamn, Sherlock Holmes over here

[late silo]

yeah just because it shows up in a public search world doesnt mean the person who made it wants it out to the public thats why its password locked meaning "not for you"

[timber hornet]

Just stop I said no shit if u can’t get ahold of the owner and there’s no QR code I wold be trying to buy it u are no help

[stark python]

I want emission on a quest avi of mine, but I like the flat look of Toon lit. Is there anyway to make Standard Lite look like toon lit?

[late silo]

no texture image on albedo and color set to black then put your texture image on the emission slot and turn the color white

thats the closest you'll get

[stark python]

Regrettable, but thanks!

[tiny narwhal]

will it automatically cut out the transparent parts of it when I click on the face?

[grave jungle]

hi can i ask u somin

[tiny narwhal]

is there any way to make toon lit look like standard lite on some parts of the avatar but not others?

Welp

[grave jungle]

did u see my ping

[tiny narwhal]

that seems to mostly work for my issue except for the hair that I atlas'd to the same material. Anyway to make it look like what it would look like when I say for example that I want my hair on that material to look like how it does with toon lit?

[tiny narwhal]

no

[late silo]

If you assign a separate material to the parts that you want emission on in blender you can do it that way

[grave jungle]

I just had a question about getting started with avatar creation, ive tried videos but none actually get me started.

this isnt just for quest this is in general

[tiny narwhal]

hmm which is problematic as I need to atlas all of the materials together into a single one when I need to export.

top is with standard lite made to almost look like toon lit

botton one is toon lit

[late silo]

🤷

[tiny narwhal]

hmm

[late silo]

with only one material it wont really be possible on quest

[fluid hare]

I am so new to making pc Avis quest compatible
I’ve used some tools, but none of this makes sense nor am I experienced in blender
I only know a bit of unity
Does anyone have some really good videos that helped you guys out?

[safe reef]

this doesnt seem right.

[rose yew]

Change your material's shaders to quest

[safe reef]

this is a quest material

its in the folder with the other two quest particle shaders, but neither are what i need

[cyan apex]

That one seems to be worlds only

Idk why it is in the Mobile folder if you can‘t use it but

You‘ll have to use some other shader

[somber nimbus]

why do the color of the avatar looks like this

before I save the project it looks normal

[long jetty]

Hello atm I'm trying to make a PC Avatar into a Quest Avatar. I've gotten everything good except the size of it. Right now it is 21.71mb, while I need 10mb. I have already deleted all non-necessary images, crunched them, and made them a lower resolution. Is there anyway to specifically see what is causing the increase in the size?

[late silo]

you could open the project in file explorer and check the file sizes there

[long jetty]

I will try that, thank you!

[long jetty]

So it turns out my .fbx is 55mb for my avi

How would I lower that?

Is there anyway in Unity, or will I have to go through blender

[late silo]

you can compress it some in the import settings but that can break it

[long jetty]

hmm, aight

cuz no matter what I do it isn't lowering

I even used polytools and it didn't do anything

I lowered it to 17mb now

but can't get any lower

I feel like the rest is just the .fbx

It's at 16mb now

gonna go take a break

[long jetty]

bruh

[long jetty]

finally fixed it

[meager thorn]

is there a way to get past the build limit on quest? without decreasing the size.

[flint forge]

Sounds like blendshapes, if you have VRCFury then its Blendshape optimizer would probably drastically bring that down, it only removes blendshapes that aren't used and can keep MMD blendshapes.

[cyan apex]

No

[cyan apex]

Blendshape optimizer my beloved

Although 55mb fbx sounds like a >300k poly fbx xD

[solemn creek]

the pinned document for this channel seems to have 404'd. After getting my avatar to an overall Good rating, is there anything else additional I need to do to have it visible on Quest?

[steady idol]

the build limit is there for a reason

[steady idol]

none of the particle shaders are really built to be used on avatars
outside of actual particles none of the particle shaders even render on quest

[nova flame]

i need to reduce bones without using blender, who knows the answer to this wins a free favour from the Italian Mafia

[fluid nimbus]

does anyone know how to fix this ? i wanted to put clothes on a friend of mines avi for quest and this happened

[magic slate]

you'll probably need to explain what's wrong about this

[fluid nimbus]

Your right, though I did that’s on me , so basically the skirt , arm warmers and leg warmers are suppose to be blue pink and white but when I chanced the shader to “VRChat/mobile/standard lite” it changed into the color you see on the picture

[magic slate]

Ah! Okay then probably the mesh has vertex colors, and the shader is picking them up. You'd have to check that in Blender

[fluid nimbus]

If that does end up being the case what should I do ?

[magic slate]

Go into Blender and remove the vertex colors, then re-export.

I haven't heard if you can do this within Unity

[fluid nimbus]

Ok thank you imma check this real soon

[fluid nimbus]

i owe u a life time worth of thank yous my good lad , it worked and atlass ill be able to rest in peace

[meager thorn]

metal shader for quest anyone know any?

[late silo]

matcap

[steady idol]

You cant use custom shaders on quest so you can either max out the metallic on vrc standard or fake it with the vrc matcap shader

[cyan apex]

VRCQuestTools can do this i think

[magic slate]

oh cool, had no idea

[pastel storm]

im trying to make a workable portal gun on quest using a chain of physbones with specific settings. but, the object at the end of the chain is kinda rotating a bit. I was wondering if anybody had done this before and knows the settings for the physbone to make it stay.

[arctic zinc]

you caaaan perform a forced upload like on how some people do to force avi's that have flashlight and shaders that shouldn't work on quest, buuuut it's really un optimized for quest and can crash you and others lol, and I'm 80% sure vr chat might get upset at you for doing so

I haven't went threw the nono stuff for vr chat since easy anti cheat lol

oh...

the pain

I still remember it

[arctic zinc]

could try using one of the limiters

[pastel storm]

well lemme open the project and see what they are

its a chain of bones btw. it overall stays in place but rotates depending on where I am.

something I could also do is if I can make the last bone stay upright completely

idk

[meager thorn]

any fixes?

[magic slate]

It's a rounding error, you'll need to decrease the size more. Usual methods: reduce texture size, remove unused blendshapes, etc.

[viral flicker]

things like this make me wish there was a bit of an allowance

[deft saddle]

i dont know what to do , its only happening on quest and its not the phys bones

also posting it here cause avatar help is doing crap

[indigo rain]

Maybe someone knows a way to make the mono-eye mobian moving pupils( is there a way to transfer nodes in vr ?).

like from this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IDD5_HtPYE&t=25s ?

[safe birch]

Can anyone explain what this means (Its my first time uploading and I've been at this for almost 3 hours)

[hot pebble]

Missing prefab

Delete it

Its the vrcfury gogo loco

Just add gogoloco manually

[pastel storm]

Does anyone have a riggy avatar I could clone?

[safe birch]

I deleted gogo and it didn't work

This is killing me

[sinful charm]

Hey When i Try To Swap The Avi Im Trying To upload from windows to android it keep saying in console Androidplayer is disabled what do i need to do

do i need to install the Android module for the editor 2022 if so how since you cant do it on unity hub for that editor

[random comet]

Press ctrl + shift + b, find the Android tab and click it, instructions on how to install it will be shown there

[sinful charm]

im swaping it over to android throught the sdk

[random comet]

it's the same thing

[sinful charm]

plus since i dont have the android module in the editor it wont be selectable see

[random comet]

It gives instructions on how to install the android build module on your respective installation of Unity

[random comet]

you should still be able to click it

[sinful charm]

no android module in the editor thats why

[random comet]

What installation of Unity are you using (Standalone or Unity Hub), and what specific Unity version (stated in the titlebar)

[sinful charm]

unity hub but im using cc aswell

also 2022.3.6f1

[random comet]

then you should be able to access this

A standalone installation won't show "Add Modules" however

[sinful charm]

ive installed it right its showing on the hub but when i right click the gear logo only show in explorer and remove from hub

[random comet]

What is the path to the editor shown in Unityhub

[sinful charm]

ohh

[random comet]

that looks like a manual installation

[sinful charm]

since its not in c like the rest

well like 2019

[random comet]

You can always download older unity versions through the hub via protocol links inside of the unity archive site

but since it's a standalone install, close the project, and install the android build support setup in this page https://unity.com/releases/editor/whats-new/2022.3.6

[sinful charm]

cant it wont let me upload bc of smth

is i go older

where do i install it to

[random comet]

the folder to the editor

in this case for you, E:\New folder (6)\unity editor\2022.3.6f1

[sinful charm]

this better work or im gonna go crazy since i want to upload this avi for side for quest

[terse oasis]

I'm not quite sure what went wrong... Just tried to remove the transparent layer of eyelashes and eyebrows

[high lion]

I have no clue how this thing with 1 mat and nothing on the 673KB avatar can get so much size?

I have 1 mats with all body parts in it, the texture is 2048x2048 and is 1.3MB large and the fbx only 673KB.

How in he## does this avatar have over 90MB of size??

In my field of view, this avatar should be just 2MB large and not 97MB.

Its so weird!?
The uploadtime was done in just 2 seconds and my max. Internet speed is 30MB/s how can I upload a 97MB avatar in 2 seconds before the upload was finnished?

Is it maybe possible that this is a bug or something?
How can a 1.3MB texture + 673KB avatar fbx be 97MB large?

[tired spoke]

might be a sdk bug, try uploading anyway, it could be reading an old build and test you've done for another avi

or upload for that matter

oh you mentioned it got uploaded

check the perf stats ingame for correct size

[astral moon]

Does Vroid work

[magic slate]

uh, sure?

[wide heart]

Vroid often comes with geometry setup to rely on transparency shaders. Quest doesn't have these shaders. So it will likely need to be sent back to blender and fixed.

[wary flume]

So I have an issue were if you bend down in some of my models that the knees cross in. Its annoying and I know I have to fix it in Blender but everytime I think I have it the problem gets worse. Any thoughts on fixing this stupid annoying prob?

[wide heart]

You have to make sure the legs are straight up and down. Then the knee is slightly forward.

[jaunty trellis]

OK so I upload my avatar and it uploads fine I have the ability to change to it. However, when I change to it, it doesn’t work like everything just shows n/a

I would appreciate any help

[fresh talon]

What component does gesturemaneger need

Or well it’s missing a prefab on gesture manager

[magic slate]

it shouldn't need anything

[hot nymph]

Is there a way to upload a Transparent material on a quest avatar?

[rose yew]

Nope, it's gotta be cut out via blender

[hot nymph]

Dang, my avatar has a mask on his face made of glass, and your supposed to see the guys face through said glass, this sucks.