quest-development

[sweet tundra]

Because no one really uses the hub

[vale sierra]

the goal posts in this conversation just keeps moving, i'm out

[sweet tundra]

They have changed so much from the original rant

[wraith jewel]

It used to have loads of people till they added that stupid event

No one will do shit in that place they replaced the hub portal with

There is nothing to look at

There ain't a mirror

[sweet tundra]

Yeah, as Temporal said, this is completely different to the original conversation about performance.

[wraith jewel]

The hub ran better than this stupid drawing game it's replaced with that gets messed up by the 6 year olds playing this game within the second they join

[sweet tundra]

Don’t… go to the hub?

[wraith jewel]

There litterly is no hub to go to easily

Also cross hub is where half of the people get crashed for being quest users

Every public instance on quest is a crashers paradise

[sweet tundra]

Yeah, even if I wanted to continue this conversation, I can’t. My phone’s gonna die soon, and I’m going to sleep soon anyway. This also just feels like one-sided complaining now.

[sweet tundra]

I was also going to sleep soon, and my iPad was charging, so I had to wait for that to charge a bit, becuase its battery sucks.

[pulsar fox]

You aren’t on the quest only hub then

The quest only hub does not show pc-only worlds

[wraith jewel]

it does

[steady moat]

Anyone know if the next update will allow quest to have a separate camera like the pc players?

[sweet tundra]

Likely not, due to performance.

[elfin ridge]

When are we getting a camera for quest users

[elfin ridge]

What the hell is a camera gonna do to performance???

[opal hill]

Export Exception - System.DllNotFoundException:shell32.dll at (wrapper managed-to-native)

any ideas why i would be getting this error on mac?

[sweet tundra]

Drawing the screen again.

Twice for each eye total if you have a camera.

8 times total if you're in front of a mirror as well.

[delicate kraken]

use the vrchat+ profile picture camera to capture screenshots and grab them from the website 🙂

[elfin ridge]

that doesn't actually sound that bad. Whats the worse that could happen????

[sweet tundra]

You crashing and having to restart your headset.

[elfin ridge]

And theres no way they can make some kind of work around to make it where that doesnt happen??? like come on

[sweet tundra]

The Quest 2 already gets less than 72 fps in the default home with the mirror on.

A camera is essentially a mirror, but probably worse for performance because it saves images/videos.

And then you put people into the world and it runs worse.

[sweet tundra]

There's not really a work around, except disabling all mirrors and likely most of the other users in a world.

And the second option completely removes the point of vrchat.

There was a camera in some event world, and using it froze the game for about half a second.

Or you could have a horrible camera resolution.

But that defeats the purpose of cameras.

[tranquil linden]

In short: no fun for you.

[wraith jewel]

True

What about the camera that pc users use why don’t quest users have that

[sweet tundra]

Same reason.

[lament owl]

It would technically be possible to make one that doesn't have a live preview

[wraith jewel]

Ya

[wraith jewel]

Haha there’s no activity here

Well

Apart form this message

[wraith jewel]

does anybody have some good carpet for a quest world of my real life room?

just regular ol apartment carpet lol nothing fancy

[median monolith]

will we ever get more features and push the quest 2 hardware slightly harder? no movie worlds work, udons are scarce, and the game being free and now easily accessible on quest has brought a ton of of young children that need to be policed

wanna play with my gf. both have quests but only one gaming pc and so far it has been our experience that theres nothing to do in the quest 2 version of vr chat due to all the real entertainment being disabled and the majority of players you can socialize with are children

[fair tinsel]

stuff preventing video players are unlikely to change in a hurry and as far as like interactive udon games that's entirely on the user base as far as making Quest compatible udon games not really serving the developers can do anything about

[median monolith]

oh well. we bare minimum need ID verified accounts and to give map creators the option of not letting anyone join their world who doesnt have a verified ID that's over 18, give the adults a place to hang out ya kno

perhaps some "beta" worlds that can warn you about performance issues but if you're willing to cope you can still do things that you would on the PC

[fair tinsel]

that is unlikely to ever happen as it would get them kicked off the Oculus store

[median monolith]

dang that’s whack. I’ll keep my hope I’m holdin out to a minimum then haha

[south lily]

were trying, issue is unity 2019 (avpro and uvp) has a issue firing content on android and vrc limited more UI inputs and the work arounds were thinking of are kind of loopy

and shader inputs are also slowly being repaired

[fair tinsel]

yeah basically none of the app stores wand adult content on it and ID lock 18-plus kind of implies that

[wraith jewel]

ok but like r they gonna add a camera to quest

cause i wanna take selfies

[unkempt dirge]

They need to add cameras for avatars that would be amazing

[sweet tundra]

Not happening due to performance issues that would just be worsened. If it rarely updated, then it wouldn't be as bad, but then there's no point in the camera.

[opal hill]

There is no way to play a video on quest, correct?

[south lily]

you can

[opal hill]

is there a 3rd party asset i need to import or can i accomplish this with the player that comes with sdk3?

[south lily]

technically

however i would recommend using protv. as its meant for quest use

[opal hill]

you are awesome. thank you so much!

[gaunt spade]

Not that it matter much but all 3 tv's play quest. All 3 main prefabs require direct dl mp4's. Not one of them will play a youtube link for quest. ProTv does have a lot of neat features tho.

[south lily]

it however does have a varient that can plugin resolves

essentially acting as ytdl

[stuck kettle]

um dose that mean we get cameras on the quest now ?

[stoic gale]

if you have vrc+ yes

[stuck kettle]

wait? what but pc users gets camera for free? how is that fair?

[stoic gale]

its a different camera

but also it isnt fair its just how it works

i dislike this setup but its the best we got

[frosty tapir]

The camera PCVR has is likely too performance heavy for Quest. The VRC+ camera's are for taking profile picture icons or pictures to the gallery, it's a pretty simple camera.

[stoic gale]

on that note its probably been asked for 42069 times but i would kill for pc camera on quest

alas it will likely never happen

[stuck kettle]

i get that but ill be fine with simple camera . its still dose seem un fair

[south lily]

iirc, the main factor right now is being able to save photos directly on the quest via vrchat's app. but i could be wrong and something else is limiting it

[stoic gale]

well I mean they could just have it save and upload like the VRC+ camera

[south lily]

some day: there will be some sort of camera. but it will most likely be different than the pc camera

[fleet fable]

Does anyone know of a quest and pc video player?

[opal hill]

i found the key to have videos play on quest is using the right url

[fleet fable]

What?

[fleet fable]

?

[opal hill]

maybe im confused what youre asking

[gaunt spade]

Pick any player and use a direct link to a downloaded and cloud stored mp4. Find a host, google, dropbox whatever, upload the video, share it publicly and then google how to make that hosts link a direct link. That link will play for quest and pc. You will not find a video player that will accept a youtube url as of yet for quest.

[south lily]

yet

[fleet fable]

How exactly do I use a direct link to an mp4 I have downloaded?

[dense mantle]

am I missing something

[fair tinsel]

that Shader is only supposed to be used on worlds

the vrchat SDK for worlds and avatars used to be the same thing so that's probably why the shaders are the same in both

[gaunt spade]

Pop it in the url input of the player or create a Playlist that feeds it for you.

[fleet fable]

I already tried popping the mp4 in the url input, but it wouldn't fit.

[gaunt spade]

Need a better url. Scale that shot down. Both Wolfe and protv let you increase the url size but you don't want to have outrageously long urls.

[fleet fable]

I used "Fit" as a reference, it can't go in the url slot

[gaunt spade]

sure it does. Everyone with a working player did it. good luck.

[wraith jewel]

Honestly they should remove the world only mobile shaders from the sdk3 avatars and vice versa for worlds

It confuses alot of new people and causes extra frustration

[fleet fable]

Can I upload it to Google Drive?

[gaunt spade]

yep this is what a drive example looks like:
original: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aps732j02_VDZUgSQdwH5WZXPlv771Gn/view?usp=sharing

DL: https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1aps732j02_VDZUgSQdwH5WZXPlv771Gn&export=download

you might need to change the maximum characters permitted for google links 85 I think is what wolfe and ArchiTech are set at by default which should be good.

I use dropbox for all mine
which is like
original : https://www.dropbox.com/s/hriinb9w3a2107m/iPad intro.pdf

dl: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/hriinb9w3a2107m/iPad intro.pdf

drop box allows you to rename the file which results in a shorter url.

[fleet fable]

Hey, I tried this but it won't work, I copy the link and paste it in the url for the video player but it doesn't work, then I try to put in a youtube video url and it works.

[gaunt spade]

🤷‍♂️

[fleet fable]

Not even you're reference links work?

[gaunt spade]

Those are examples of how to set the up lol not meant to work.

[fleet fable]

Ok, so all I did was upload a video to google drive then copied the link, am I missing something?

[gaunt spade]

I use wolfe with Dropbox links converted to direct links

[wraith jewel]

anyone know why vrchat wont let people log in?

[gaunt spade]

Koolkids night only ;) jk try user support. Lots off complaints today

[fleet fable]

Can you send a link to wolfe

[gaunt spade]

https://vrchat.nishawolfe.com/prefabs/videoplayer

There is a section on the site that explains quest setup again

Pay extra attention to the custom url section in the faq

[fleet fable]

Can you have it play a video on join?

(When you join the world)

[gaunt spade]

Yep

[fleet fable]

How?

[gaunt spade]

I don't have a world loaded with the player to show you. If you just examine the prefab it will be obvious where it has an autoplay video url in the inspector. Without changing a single thing about the player it will auto play a vrchat advertisement using a youtube url. Find that url in the hierarchy while inspecting and change it.

[fleet fable]

Why doesn't this link work https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EbtWpA4NUxBfBSE6oCx7btHVaZ0a3YbA/view?usp=sharing

[fleet fable]

It doesn't work with any video player, how do I fix that?

[south lily]

google drive is extremely finnicky to get working as it is not even included with ytdl to help resolve the link

i highly suggest just using dropbox

[fleet fable]

Right but when I muse Dropbox and copy the link and click on the link it says could not load video but with google drive it can load the video through the web browser but not with video players.

[south lily]

if the video isnt shared/public on dropbox. then its not going to play it

[fleet fable]

At the bottom it says anyone with the link can view

[tender aspen]

whats the quest avi poly limit

like when i cant upload it anymore

[frosty tapir]

There isn't a hard limit that prevents you from uploading with polygons.

[tender aspen]

oh awesome

[gaunt spade]

"For example, if an avatar on Quest exceeds 20,000 triangles (polygons), it will not display by default in the application. These avatars can be forced to show by clicking on each user and clicking "Show Avatar"."
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/avatar-performance-ranking-system#quest-limits

[indigo topaz]

Hello, I would love to know what does this mean: The SDK lets me upload the avatar but tells me this, does it mean that if I'm wearing the PC avatar Quest players won't see this version? If yes, why is Unity letting me upload it? Or is it only concerning the PC avatar with no Quest version option thing?

[gaunt spade]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/avatar-fallback-system

[indigo topaz]

Ooh ok I see, so that's what I was thinking about. Thank you!

[fair tinsel]

cats has a very handy tool for helping making Quest avatars https://github.com/GiveMeAllYourCats/cats-blender-plugin/wiki/Bake

[stone widget]

Yep in Blender Cats now but like the Quest limit feels so low

[fair tinsel]

the quest is literally a cellphone attached to your head

[stone widget]

I know but still

Like I made socks in blender because I thought; Good, Then I don't need to use feets for polygons, Just have a blob as sock but even after optimization just the socks are 800

[fair tinsel]

the current Quest limits are what the limits were on vrchat like 2 years ago as far as like triangle count

have you dissolved more Edge loops

and out of curiosity what's your current total for your quest version at the moment

[stone widget]

Currently I am at 23000 for entire model

Body, Hair, Ears, Socks, Clothing, Body

[fair tinsel]

that's not too bad you only need to shave off 4000

question do you currently have the body under the clothing

[stone widget]

Nope fully removed

[fair tinsel]

mind taking a screenshot of your wireframe

so I might could suggest spots to remove edge loops

[stone widget]

I believe I just need to optimize the hair a bit more as it's currently eating a big chunk but I hate it because the hair looks so bad going lower and lower

[fair tinsel]

yeah but the quest users won't know what it's supposed to look like so they're not going to miss out on the marvellous hair

[stone widget]

Would be awesome if you could add a start command to VRChat like "--Enable-Quest-Only"

To emulate what Quest users see in game

[fair tinsel]

cannot be done because the quest version runs on Android

[stone widget]

To test both avatars, worlds, anything related to Quest development

I know but would be awesome still 😄

[fair tinsel]

and also your computer has vastly different specs than the quests so not going to get a accurate frame rate reading

so basically you're not going to gain any more info then you would just staring at the unity editor

[stone widget]

Down to 15K now, Still want it to be lower

[fair tinsel]

if you can make it lower go ahead but you hit the stretch where everybody can see you so you've done good

[stone widget]

[fair tinsel]

might also be good if you can get it to the number to do a fallback Avatar

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/avatar-fallback-system

I suppose if you can't manually get to that number you could make a second version using the cat Bake tool

[fleet fable]

Did I have to download the video again after I uploaded it...

This whole time?

[vale zinc]

Is there any way to see quest content on a PC? I dont have a quest but i like to make quest content but cant test it

[tender aspen]

can we have audio sources on quest avatars

[sweet tundra]

Yes, just change the build target to Android and upload as normal. I didn't read the question correctly, see Digi's answer.

[sweet tundra]

No, audio sources use way too much of the quest's computational power already through players.

[tender aspen]

okay

[tender aspen]

i just switch the platform back to windows and upload it as a new avatar usually called "avatar name quest pc test"

[vale zinc]

oh okay thank you for the answer ... well i will hope that vrc will release a function to switch to quest emulation for a pc user.

[tender aspen]

No problem!

[gaunt spade]

That is more of a Unity responsibility and Unity cannot release something that Facebook won't share. As always, blame Facebook.

[vale zinc]

Really? I thought there is something which tells vrchat 'hey i'm a quest please show mobile' and vrchat could do a checkbox in the settings which emulates 'please show mobile' even on pc :0

[gaunt spade]

I see, you said emulation. The test button on for pc isnt an emulator, its the actual client. Quest VRC isnt launched from the PC is it? I suspect it is launched from the headset. Does the quest even connect to the PC (without additional components)? So if its not even connected there is no way for the sdk to access it. So an emulator is the only way to test before upload and an emulator has not been released by Facebook. It's also illegal to emulate proprietary software without consent and Facebook would love free money.

[vale zinc]

i seeee :<

[gaunt spade]

the most Facebook has shared is movement lol https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/unity/unity-hmd-emulation/

[vale zinc]

i always thought vrchat programms how quest users see the world based on their low engine power. That vrchat has this 'quest detection' which tells vrchat if it has to display the environment as pc or as quest and therefore it should also be vrchat who has the power on letting pc users decide in entering the quest display method for testing purposes ...

[gaunt spade]

I suppose but Quest is compiled for Android. You cannot play an android app on PC without emulation because PC cant read it.

I'ed watch Android studios for the first functional emulator. If they get one approved we'll have something to use.

[vale zinc]

highly wondering if we will get Android-Users one day 😂 VRChat will be flooded! hahaha

[gaunt spade]

Easier to develop for as well

[fleet fable]

How do I get a video player to play on quest, couple people said "get a video link from dropbox or google drive", didn't work.

[gaunt spade]

you made sure to enable custom urls in vrchat right?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4nDA0cVUAAOS3r.jpg

[fleet fable]

Yep

Urls from google drive and drop box don't even work on a normal pc video player

[gaunt spade]

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/n0i164n0osy6hxk/80hh.mp4?dl=0
that is a working quest url. If it doesnt play for you then you are setting something up wrong.

[fleet fable]

Yes, it works, how did you get it to work!?

[gaunt spade]

exactly how I told you to

[fleet fable]

Ok so

I get a mp4

upload to dropbox

copy link

Done?

[gaunt spade]

get a public anyone can see link and paste it here

[fleet fable]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YDHA73Q5bcyE8emTw4FRYzV06DLK_DLe

[gaunt spade]

well was going to change it for you but I only work in dropbox lol

[fleet fable]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/airhq4f36ekf1rk/Lofi(Copy and Paste Compressed).mp4?

[gaunt spade]

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/airhq4f36ekf1rk/Lofi(Copy and Paste Compressed).mp4?dl=0

pay attention to the changes made

[fleet fable]

dl=0 and dl

what that do?

[gaunt spade]

and https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com

see its not https://www.dropbox.com

[fleet fable]

ohhhh

It works, thank you!

[gaunt spade]

😉

[wraith jewel]

Does anyone know if I make 2 identical copies of an avatar, Quest & PC and upload to same blueprint,

If I make an toggle when on PC, Will quest users see the same toggle?

Example: I toggle a sword in my hand

[fleet fable]

It won't play for quest, it shows the picture on the screen when you load in but theres no video

[gaunt spade]

can you hear the audio?

[fleet fable]

no

[gaunt spade]

if you see stewie the video is loaded. If its not playing then something isnt right with the setup. But you do need to make sure you are using a quest ready material/shader for the render.

talking about my link but same with ur link

Standard lite works for the quest video render

[gaunt spade]

🤷‍♂️ I use wolfe I have no idea how your player should be setup. I've also used ArchiTechAnon's player without issues.

[fleet fable]

It doesn't work for autoplay but it works when I manually put the url in

[gaunt spade]

lol yeah something is wonky with the setup, i doubt its the video player.

you have a few hidden udon behaviors and an extra disabled avpro. The extra av component is sus which makes me wonder what else is attached that might be duplicated and not needed.

[fleet fable]

I was using the video player test prefab 🤣

Not the actual

My bad 😆

[gaunt spade]

all good now?

[fleet fable]

I don't know, youtube videos autoplay but my one might not

I'm testing rn

Am I soppose to use the avpro vid player for it to work???

Cause the video wont auto play only youtube vids

[gaunt spade]

All the working quest players use it 🤷‍♂️

try this: https://vrchat.nishawolfe.com/prefabs/videoplayer
read the FAQ's especially:
"Is this video player Oculus Quest compatable?"

[fleet fable]

Can you test it please https://booth.pm/en/items/2758684

[fleet fable]

I already tried this, it doesn't work for me.

[gaunt spade]

it didnt work with your old links

[fleet fable]

Won't let me build and test with this

[gaunt spade]

naw, sorry... I'm not down to test another player.

[tender aspen]

yes if the quest avatar is set up exactly the same (like the same gestures do the animation and it has the prop) then yes

[magic imp]

On pc this avatar looks fine, but on quest it has scrambled uvs. The only difference between the two is the material on quest is set to standard lite and the textures are in astc 12x12 compression format. Any idea of what's making the model messed up on Quest?

[outer raft]

Is there a way to test quest versions of worlds and avatars with an index? like launching vrc in some kind of quest mode?

[fair tinsel]

nope that is not possible because the quest is running Android

[pearl knot]

Something yall might find pretty cool; i managed to create some rudimentary constraints that will work for quest using particles!

[sweet tundra]

Only issue is, constraints don't work on Quest avatars

[pearl knot]

thats exactly my point; these dont use constraints, they are an alternative that does work on quest

[south lily]

was about to say: animators

but particles ig works? (if im understanding particles correctly enough lol)

[pearl knot]

all particles, no animation required

[sweet tundra]

oh

[warped frigate]

Yo is the standard shader on quest thing working for anyone on unity 2019 or has VRChat cracked down on it with the 2019 engine? Cuz if so that sucks.

[gaunt spade]

It is Standard-Lite that works on Quest.

[warped frigate]

Yeah i know but there was a glitch with unity 2017 and 18 that allowed you to use normal standard on quest which me and a lot of my friends use for hair etc.

Its better than having blocky rectangle hair

[tall hedge]

Who wants to share games I need help I have no games on my oculus at all my brother rebooted it

[oblique tiger]

wrong channel

[indigo topaz]

Hello, I have upgraded to Unity 2019 for a Quest world update and so my SDK, everything works fine exept the build tab: It shows empty. Any idea why?

[sudden palm]

I’m a creator for VRChat and I had that problem, I fixed it a few times just by editing the avatar config

[indigo topaz]

The avatar config? You mean the menu to ajust the rig, like chest-upperchest thingy?

[sudden palm]

Yes

[indigo topaz]

Ok, I will try this, thanks!

[indigo topaz]

Ok, I tried it 3 times, and switching scenes as well. When there is no script I get this screen:

But nothing when I have one

[sudden palm]

You added the descriptor to the model??

[indigo topaz]

It's a world, and yes there is a descriptor on it

[sudden palm]

Ah

World wise hm— I’m sorry this is all I can do, let’s hope you did the world SDK

And not avatar SDK

[indigo topaz]

I'm using the SDK 2 and here is the script

[sudden palm]

Oh uh— I use SDK 3

[indigo topaz]

Ohh I see, I'm going to see what I can do to solve this but i have no clue lol, it's a weird issue 😅 Thank you for the help thought!

[worldly stone]

anyone able to help with this xD ?

[wraith jewel]

What is the EXACT unity version you are using, and the exact version of the VRCSDK?

For Unity, you need to have 2019.4.29f1, other versions will cause you to run into various other problems. The SDK as of this message needs to be version VRCSDK3-WORLD-2021.08.11.15.16_Public

Old VRCSDKs that were made when 2018.4.20f1 (and other older versions) do not cooperate in newer versions like 2019.4.29f1

[twin wing]

Hellooo!!!

I need help making an avatar quest compatible ;3;

[fair tinsel]

what current problem you having

[twin wing]

uhhh well its a whole bunch u tried watching tutorials on blender and unity

[fair tinsel]

yeah I'm aware of the basic process of creating avatars and how it's a lot

[twin wing]

dm?

[fair tinsel]

probably better for the questions to be posted here so multiple folks can answer

[twin wing]

oh ok ;-;

[worldly stone]

anyone able to help me?

[indigo topaz]

Hello, sorry for the delay: I'm using Unity 2019.4.29f1 and the SDK VRCSDK2-2021.08.04.11.23_Public because it's an older world I'm upgrading

[wraith jewel]

you don't have any spawns in your scene descriptor

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565256015013085195/883392104452218900/unknown.png

[indigo topaz]

Oh yes I do, the list is just closed

[wraith jewel]

oh

id make your own spawn yourself then and try that

spawn in an empty add the scene descriptor yknow the ol way

delete the vrcworld prefab from ur scene if you do that

[long mesa]

I just uploaded my avatar and was wondering how I could make it quest compatible too. It is basically just a mesh and has only like 3000 polygons

[fair tinsel]

but how many materials is it

[long mesa]

enough within the limit

[wraith jewel]

: eye roll : : smhhvh :

[distant perch]

Need help with my spooky world:
Okay anyone know how to add Qv Pens to Android builds WITHOUT BREAKING THE SDK2? x.x i nearly lost EVERYTHING last time i tried...
.
OR does anyone know HOW to add fog WITHOUT breaking the lighting ?? Thanks! ❤️

[gaunt spade]

So about fog...

• Unity's PP fog is a depthTexture overlay so distorting the light is what it does.
• Volumetric Fog requires the HDR Pipeline which we don't get to use.
• So your only option is particles.
  Particle fog works, only if you take the time to set it up optimally. Particles hit performance hard if left unchecked especially on Quest. The particle system is also permitted to use transparencies (alpha volumes) so that adds to the performance hit. However, if you keep the particles low and maybe use a local as opposed to world setup, then it shouldn't be an issue. Here is a tutorial with good fog, the author also has an incredible FX asset on the store with the fog included if you would rather skip it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvKRGwCImJ4

[distant perch]

Thanks so much! VERY useful information 🙂

[unreal garnet]

Hi, does anyone know how to make a good water/ocean plane optimized for the quest 2?

[gaunt spade]

use a quad. and resist the urge to use a massive quad, split it up into smaller objects and only add it where it is needed.

Using multiple quads as opposed to one big one lets you benefit from occlusion culling if the landscape permits.

[unreal garnet]

Thank you!

[unreal garnet]

Hi again, in the builder section of SDK2 it says my "World uses unsupported shaders" even though I have checked every single game object and I am not using those shaders. Trying to upload like this leads to "Unity package upload failed"... How can I troubleshoot this?

[south lily]

check your console for errors

[unreal garnet]

It's telling me that not enough buffer space is available. What does that mean and how can I clear some up?

[south lily]

if the harddrive your unity is on is almost full. it will not have enough

[unreal garnet]

I've got 1.4 TB free

[south lily]

have you closed and reopen unity yet?

[unreal garnet]

yep

going to restart my machine next

Also when I click build it gives me "the following open scenes have changed on disk: assets/scenes/samplescene.unity Do you want to reload the scenes?" If I click reload it crashes, if I click ignore it lets me name the world but package upload fails

[south lily]

anything else in the console?

[unreal garnet]

Restarting my computer didnt help. The console seems to have 3 errors but the only one i can remotely understand is the not enough buffer space one.. but i do have the space. I'm thinking maybe this is an sdk issue?

[south lily]

screenshot?

[south lily]

youre on 2019.4.29f1, right? try detaching your world ID and reuploading the world on a new ID

[unreal garnet]

I am. How do I detach the world ID

and set up a new one?

[south lily]

yiu only need to detach

go to your scene descriptor (usually on the VRCWorld prefab) and there will be a pipeline component with a detach button

[unreal garnet]

very similar errors as before

even with detach

[south lily]

try build and publish now (this will put a new ID in)

see if it lets you upload

[unreal garnet]

I did, got similar errors as before, failed to upload

[south lily]

switch back to PC and then back to android (from build settings and not the SDK), other than that, i can only suggest making a new unity project and see if the issue persists

[unreal garnet]

I had this issue with a different world and I just gave up because I thought the water in the world just wouldnt work on quest

if u cant tell im a novice but ive been making worlds fine for months before this

I even "remade" that project and I was still having package upload fail

[south lily]

its fine. its unity

what is your sdk version?

[unreal garnet]

I have sdk2. tried redownloading it a few days ago. Kind of worried that I haven't been deleting things properly/that there are duplicate files but I don't know how to figure out how to get exactly what I need to be able to upload again

[south lily]

youre technically supposed to update it without deleting stuff

but importing the sdk after wouldve replaced whats needed

is this issue only occuring on android or is it on pc as well?

[unreal garnet]

The build settings swap didnt fix the issue :/

havent tried pc, as i only use quest

[south lily]

oh - are you in mac?

[unreal garnet]

yeah. ik its controversial but its been working fine for my needs till now

[south lily]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

ok so - there was a change in the unity 2019 sdk that i have been trying to figure out but it makes mac users unable to use it and have to upload stuff with the 2018 sdk and unity

[unreal garnet]

wait so is there any way I can upload these worlds ive got piling up

[south lily]

but you had like a different error

you can with unity 2018. with the 2018 sdks

[unreal garnet]

is there a way to get the old sdk? i still have unity 2018 downloaded

[south lily]

but vrc stopped/never supported mac so I don’t know if any of these issues will be fixed

[south lily]

i archieved the last few sdks for 2018

[unreal garnet]

so uh how can i access these archives

[south lily]

this

[unreal garnet]

I see a lot of letters and numbers how do i know what to pick to download

[south lily]

it should take you to the folder with the sdk2 unity package

[unreal garnet]

oh just a lil confused since it says 2021

[south lily]

oh ye. thats the release date

[unreal garnet]

i thought i needed the 2018 sdk tho

[south lily]

it is the 2018 sdk

unity 2018 was used in 2021

[unreal garnet]

gotcha my bad

[south lily]

the sdk linked above is the last one before the switch

[unreal garnet]

content successfully uploaded! you're a legend thank you so much

[south lily]

👍🏻

[gray sigil]

Hey does anyone know how to make a quest version for an existing avatar?

[sweet tundra]

If you have the avatar files (in a legal way, no ripping), you install the Android modules for Unity, switch platform under build settings, make changes necessary (shaders, componenets (dynamic bones, audio, lights, physics, etc are not allowed), textures, optimisation (do it, requirements are in the docs)) and upload in the same method as a PC avatar.

If you don't have the files, you can't.

[gray sigil]

Okay I got all of that done. Worked like a charm. Now the problem is to lower the number of polygons and I don't know how to do that

[lament owl]

Decimation is a low effort way, CATS blender plugin can help you do that. Cleanest is loop dissolve but thats labor intensive

[gray sigil]

Ahhh I see. Looks like i'll have to go all the way from blender lol

[glad root]

your best bet for complex objects that arent completely made out of quads or things with either sketchy or really custom topology is to do retopology on the entire thing

[wraith jewel]

Can you test you world if you have unity set up for quest

[gaunt spade]

With the sdk no. It is possible to use air link to connect to Unity but that might have adverse effects on your upload so look into that at your own risk. Plenty of guides on how to use Quest with Air link for Unity.

[wraith jewel]

Ok thank you

[unreal garnet]

Hi, I'm trying to do indoor ceiling lighting and wondering what emissive shader works best with quest 2

im trying to enable emission on standard lite but the emission isnt producing light

[fair tinsel]

you would probably have to bake your lighting for that to actually have light

as emissive shaders only make it so they don't get affected by lighting

[unreal garnet]

hmm ok thanks

[fair tinsel]

also in general you'd want to bake your lighting to not have terrible performance on The Quest

[hearty finch]

Heya, not sure if this is the right chat, but im wondering a few things if anyone could help me

1. for some reason, the sdk says the polygon limits for models are 5000 for excellect, and 7500 for medium, isntead of what the vrchat webside says for their performance rating
2. im trying to currently port a pc only to quest to use as a fallback model. I got the model all ready to go, polygon count and the sdk registers it as excellent rating yet when I upload it theres no option to set as fallback, even though there should be the crossplay button

Thanks again!

if it means anything, im still using the 2017 unity version instead of the newer 2019

[fair tinsel]

you need to be using Unity 2019 for that

[hearty finch]

once i swap to unity 2019 it should all work right?

and is there an easy way to port a 2017 project to 2019 easily?

[fair tinsel]

yes it would probably work better

[hearty finch]

and as for porting, i cant exactly just drag and drop stuff in right?

[fair tinsel]

not quite sure about a 2017 to 2019 migration as most everybody was 2018

how many avatars are you needing to bring over

[hearty finch]

just this one which im trying to make into a fallback

[fair tinsel]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/migrating-from-2018-lts-to-2019-lts

[hearty finch]

sounds good, oh and an on related/unrelated note, I'm having an issue where in full body mode, when i bend down my avatar can only reach down to about under their knee, as the real floor gets in the way, any idea on how to fix that?

[fair tinsel]

no clue on that one as I have have not done full-body myself

[hearty finch]

back again, would updating from 2017 to 2019 also fix the polygon count not ligning up with what it says on their site?

[fair tinsel]

yes because you're using a SDK from before they did the polygon count upgrade using a 2017 version

[safe quartz]

hi everyone, can someone tell me the maximum number of polygons allowed for a quest avatar please
because i think the help doc is not up to date

i think the hard limit is 2000 tri, am i right?

[wraith jewel]

There is no hard limit, but you can budget 20k tris until it becomes a very poor avatar, that becomes autoblocked for others on quest and makes others needs to manually show u

[safe quartz]

thank you

[unreal garnet]

Hello everyone, I really like the popular "movies" world where there is a huge tv always playing content, and I would like to put a similar entertainment system in one of my own worlds. How can I do this for quest? Is there an easy way to do this in the SDK like setting up a mirror or portal i.e not requiring much coding knowledge?

[zealous panther]

well what i know is that booth sells pre made movie players

that you place in your world

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[zealous panther]

https://booth.pm/en/items/2758684

[wraith jewel]

How much is it to get someone to install venture bros. avatars?

[unreal garnet]

thanks so much for the link! any idea where I can download VRChat SDK3 (2021.08.04.15.07)? the video player requires that one but i can only get my hands on the current sdk3...

[fair tinsel]

it'll work correctly with the current SDK

[zealous panther]

just check if its quest compatible

because i didnt i just said there are

[unreal garnet]

oh okay yeah. it seems to be quest compatible if i do it in a certain wa

way*

[gaunt spade]

Unless you need live streams like twitch, all video players are quest compatible using the same method. It's the links and emission shader that isnt which is why all players require you to change the video shader and use a direct link. So your options are not limited to the one player that mentions Quest.

[unreal garnet]

So I ended up using the vrc unity video player component. Everything seems to be set up right except I get the error "Export Exception- System.DllNotFoundException: shell32.dll". Also, it says that "World uses unsupported shader 'video/RealtimeEmissiveGamma", but thats the shader the tutorial i used said to use.. is there another shader i ought to use so that I can use a video player in quest? I am using the latest sdk3 and unity 2019.4.30f1

[south lily]

you on a mac?

[unreal garnet]

yes

I have also tried uploading on the 2018 version of unity but that hasnt worked either

So from what I gather shell32.dll is a windows thing? Are video players just not supported for mac? I know technically mac isnt supported at all by vrc but I've been developing worlds thus far no problem on mine

[south lily]

no shell32.dll has been a recent plague on mac unity and im not sure how to solve it

but if the shell issue is on 2018 unity. then something very important changed

[unreal garnet]

well its very weird, in unity hub i have the project set to 2018, i even duplicated it and added it as 2018 instead of downgrading, but when I open unity it still says 2019 both at the top and in the pipeline manager

i bet it would work if i could just get it to actually be 2018 somehow

[south lily]

did you set it to 2018?

[unreal garnet]

I did, I just tried to create a new project in 2018 and it opened in 2019. I just downloaded unity 2019.4.30f1 so I'm gonna restart my computer maybe that will help

its still doing it.. maybe i should delete my 2019 unity versions

[wraith jewel]

you probably installed another unity in the same directory but unity hub still seees it as whatever version it recognized first

but yeah try deleting the other versions

[unreal garnet]

so I was able to uninstall unity 2019.3 but the uninstall button doesnt appear in the hub for 2019.4, it just has options to "Reveal in Finder" and "remove from hub"... any idea how i can delete it? and if that will even fix the issue/allow me to see my projects in unity 2018 again?

When I search my library for "Unity" a list of literally hundreds of files with the word unity in it pop up... surely i'm not supposed to delete them all to delete unity.. a little worried I'm gonna mess all my projects up

[wraith jewel]

delete it from the folders manually and then remove the connections from the hub

[gaunt spade]

if you are on windows you can also do add/remove. I only use the hub but sometimes the option to remove a version can only be found in windows add/remove. its super weird.

[unreal garnet]

I'm on mac so its the wild west out here

[unreal garnet]

delete unity from which folders? like i said theres so many files on my computer when i search "unity" do i delete them all?

nvm silly me its under applications hope this works

[south lily]

ye mac uninstalls and reinstalls suck really bad

there should be a version text file that tells you what unity is 2019 or not

in the column

[unreal garnet]

ugh this is bad even after deleting unity and the hub from applications and then reinstalling only unity 2018 it still shows me as having 2019 and only letting me open things in 2019

[south lily]

i mean. at this point. get rid of all unity and only install 2018.4.20 or really any 2018 unity should work

[unreal garnet]

thats what im saying i did which is why its weird. anyways now it seems to be trying to open in 2018 but I'm getting: "Project has invalid dependencies:
com.unity.package-manager-ui: Package [com.unity.package-manager-ui@2.2.0] cannot be found. A re-import of the project may be required to fix the issue or a manual modification of /Users/***/Desktop/Movie Theater/Packages/manifest.json file." Then if i continue with the import it crashes/freezes

[south lily]

https://unity3d.com/get-unity/download/archive dont download the hub

[south lily]

i think thats a library folder change. meaning its wanting to use unity above 2018

try making a brandnew 2018 project and move all the assets from the original (like the column folder) and put it into the new 2018 project

[unreal garnet]

kk I'll try that thanks

[unreal garnet]

so im rebuilding in 2018 now but when i search for the vrc unity video player component it isnt there... but it was before!! agh

[unreal garnet]

im trying use the normal video player component but now realizing that the vrchat sdk drop down at the top with the build menu is missing so I think somethings wrong with my sdk.. but i have to use this old particular sdk since im on mac.... hmm

[south lily]

check console

[unreal garnet]

oh boy

[unreal garnet]

I think I'm just out of luck it seems like unity 2018 no longer supports the vrchat sdk3

that i need to use since im on a mac

or wait is there an older version of sdk3 as well that i need to use since im on a mac?

[south lily]

yes. but i still have no idea what youre console says lol

[unreal garnet]

basically word salad to me

im gonna reinstall sdk3, what version do you recommend

[south lily]

this

[unreal garnet]

thank you

import both of those files?

[south lily]

ye. sdk first then udonsharp

[unreal garnet]

first i've gotta delete it from my project folder right? is deleting sdk3 any different from deleting sdk2

[south lily]

um. i would just straight import the sdk first and it should overwrite what it needs to overwrite

[unreal garnet]

my control panel is back 😄

[unreal garnet]

Someone in a youtube comment section said quest users can only see video in players that is from a direct link i.e. the url ends in .mp4 or the likes. How can I get links like this/host my videos so that they have links like this I can use (for free preferably)?

[gaunt spade]

?dropbox then google dropbox direct link 🙂

[south lily]

or resolving url tactics

[unreal garnet]

hmmm so i uploaded my .mp4 to dropbox and put the share link in the vrc unity video player component but it still isnt working

[gaunt spade]

https://zapier.com/learn/how-to/generate-direct-dropbox-link/

[unreal garnet]

Thanks! alrighty so I've got my video technically working through direct dropbox link, but in the world it freezes every fifteen seconds or so for 5 seconds before continuing. My internet connection is fast, maybe I've made the display too large?

[gaunt spade]

Resolution plays a part, sometimes the video sync is the issue as well.

if you disable automatic sync the freeze will stop or should.

[unreal garnet]

uh oh whats video sync

im a "noob", surprised i got this far frankly

[gaunt spade]

Ive not looked into how the player functions but the break tells me there is no buffer or the buffer is sht (only with direct links), if you stream directly from youtube there is no issues that i have found. but that doesnt work on quest

on the video component around where you added the link in the editor should be an automatic sync check box.

[unreal garnet]

oh kk i'll check that thanks

not seeing an automatic sync box, closest thing i see is "auto play"? im having to use unity 2018 and a particular version of the sdk3 since im on mac

[gaunt spade]

avpro?

[unreal garnet]

im using the vrc unity video player

avpro seemed more complicated..

[gaunt spade]

not sure sorry, the sync i know is at the top of the component on avpro.

[unreal garnet]

is avpro the one that costs like 500$

[gaunt spade]

no its another free component. Um ArchitechAnons free player uses it as does Wolfe's free player

[unreal garnet]

gotcha. im guessing ive gotta dl them online and then import?

[gaunt spade]

https://vrchat.nishawolfe.com/prefabs/videoplayer
https://booth.pm/ja/items/2536209
not sure how the setup with architech goes, but you basically do the same tweaks to make either one play direct links for quest. Use the Direct Link and change the shader (for the screen) from realtime emission to standard-lite.

[unreal garnet]

gotcha

ty

[gaunt spade]

both do require UdonSharp so if you dont have that make sure you install it before those

[green estuary]

i dont get it

[zealous panther]

you are not allowed to use that shader i think

arent there like more of those shaders that are in mobile but will give errors anyway

for me only 3 worked i think or something

[green estuary]

but its the only one that looks good😭

[sweet tundra]

There are world shaders left over from when the two SDKs were together, that is one of them.

Transparency isn't supported on Quest avatar shaders because of performance.

[green estuary]

that is just not true. Mobile/Particles/Additive provides transparency. Just add a different blending mode from what i want.

[sweet tundra]

It provides transparency... which kills mobile performance. It's blocked on Quest VRChat avatars.

I think the devs know what they're doing.

[arctic dome]

When Will the dynamic Bones come to quest

[fair tinsel]

never has there to intensive but vrc replacement for them physics bones is fast enough that they're considering it for the quest but it's a maybe

[unreal garnet]

anyone know how I can turn into a glass window in unity?

with quest shaders

turn a cube* into a glass window

[south lily]

you can use standard shaders for quest worlds for windows

[unreal garnet]

oh ty!

[mighty monolith]

is there any kind of tool for comparing scene hierarchies? would be very useful for quest development

[gaunt spade]

if you develop in windows first and just clone it when you are done its identical. there is nothing for unity specific for comparing hierarchies. You could just open both projects at the same time. OR maybe try https://github.com/JordoVR/EasyQuestSwitch/releases which lets you do quest and windows from the same project so no hierarchy management.

Either way its the same amount of work. EQS doesnt speed anything up just eliminates the hierarchy management part.

[mighty monolith]

thanks. i have the quest build in a separate project and did something and the sync got messed up. tried manually going thru the hierarchies but havent found the problem yet and its painnnnn.

[gaunt spade]

If that happened to me ied just delete the quest project, reclone the windows one and convert the clone to quest. That way I just need to sort out any shader differences.

[mighty monolith]

oof. i have a lot of lighting changes there to make the world look like the pc version without post processing

[unreal garnet]

does anyone know where i can buy like a terabyte of prefabs

[fair tinsel]

you cannot

any paid prefabs you need to buy individually

[unreal garnet]

How do some quest worlds fit so many prefabs while I can't put nearly as much stuff in my world for 50mb?

[fair tinsel]

crunch compression on the textures helps

and potentially using lower-resolution textures

[south lily]

specific compression. better mipmapping, and other stuff

like im currently in a self compition to get a 35 mb world under a mb while still retaining original quality and it is possible.

[unreal garnet]

hmm interesting

[unreal garnet]

So I've been able to get a 7 minute video to play through the sdk3 vrc unity video player using a direct link to the file download from dropbox. I want to stream a movie but the file doesn't fit in the 2gb dropbox gives me for free. Is there any way to have working video stream on quest using something other than dropbox? Youtube link and google drive direct DL (sharing enabled) don't seem to be working...

[iron hare]

does anyone know the absolute max size a world can be before it can't be made quest compatible

[south lily]

49.99 mb

[iron hare]

thanks!

[mortal estuary]

Crunch compression is good

Plus if you add music I recommend forcing it to mono. It cuts filesize down and it honestly sounds better for VR for me.

[blissful verge]

i recently (basically today) updated my world to udon the pc build uploaded just fine but i cant upload the quest build for some reason as the builder doesnt display anything at all and dunno how to fix it and yes i did report the SDK and restarted unity multiple times

[wraith jewel]

check the unity error console it will tell you the problem most likely in red errors

click on the bar at the bottom to actually open the console

[blissful verge]

console is empty and shows no errors

[wraith jewel]

fuck uh delete the gameobject that is the spawn assuming you didnt add it onto a important world object then in that case just delete the scene descriptor and pipeline scripts and the udon behaviors for jump and speed etc

and then open the console again

and then if it needs you to make it again do that manually dont use vrcworld

just spawn an empty and add the scene script on that

[blissful verge]

i tried putting in the prefab again didnt work
tried it manually didnt work

builder is still empty

[wraith jewel]

I guess you will have to trace your steps back to the point when your project was working, undo any changes you made and delete anything new you added to see what may fix it

hopefully you made a backup but I dont think you have

[blissful verge]

i cloned my PC project and installed android support

thats it

[opal hill]

yeah i would start with your textures. many times a material comes with multiple 1+ Mb images that A you don’t even need and B can easily reduce to 200kb without any quality loss.

[unreal garnet]

Anyone know if there is any way to hook vrchat worlds up to spotify playlists? anyone know if this sort of thing is in the works?

[umbral socket]

VRChat is able to stream videos (or music) via video players. But we wouldn't be able to stream something like spotify, unless it was streamed through a third party

[unreal garnet]

I'm developing for quest and been using VRC Unity Video Player to stream. So far only dropbox direct download links have worked, but I am out of dropbox storage space. Any idea how i can find download links for things that are already being hosted that would work with the quest

even if its public domain type stuff, im not trying to violate copyright stuff its just annoying that rn i have to host everything myself

[umbral socket]

What a lot of people do is use videos from youtube - there's lots of great public domain music to be found there

Though you'd also be able to stream any other music you like - because it's a livestream, and not an actual part of your world.

I'm not very familiar with video players, but there's some prefabs that have playlist features built-in. For example https://architechvr.gumroad.com/l/protv

[unreal garnet]

Is videosync on quest possible? if so how can it be implemented

also how the heck can I get baseboards to emit light in unity so my room looks all futurey

ive been doing everything with point and directional

[south lily]

like baked emissions or bloomy?

[south lily]

you set up a sync float with the video time between players. unless you are specifying another issue

i highly suggest checking out pro tv as there will be eventual plugins that will include jinnai and maxpar for youtube link resolution on quest

along with sync

[unreal garnet]

oh ok ty

[gritty lynx]

Does anyone know any cool gimmicks like ex:particle follow, playspace because I want to do more unique quest avis

[south lily]

someone was making a playspace mover for quest that made quest users look like they had full body but i can’t remember who

[gritty lynx]

Ik who it is and use their prefab, Franada. I was just wondering if there’s anything else that ppl can use for their avis @south lily

[grand shell]

please gimme some help

[unreal garnet]

I'm experiencing an issue with my SDK where the control panel wont show up in the dropdown from Vrchat sdk like usual so I can't build my world.. In the past I solved this by replacing my sdk and unity versions but that isn't working now... the issue first happened when vrchat most recently updated the unity version, which for some reason caused mac developers sdk options to disappear like this. I had been using older versions of both unity and the sdks just fine until yesterday... Now I've got no idea how to fix this.. help please!!!

[south lily]

check console?

[unreal garnet]

theres 200 yellow and 200 red things ugh

[south lily]

do red

[unreal garnet]

i would try rebuilding from scratch except when i just tried a blank project and brought in the sdk the top VRC SDK menu button wouldnt show up at all

it seems like most of my errors end in "missing assembly reference"

I had deleted the sdk from the project files and reimported in hopes of retrieving my build menu, maybe those errors are from when I first opened the project... reimporting didnt help thoug

[south lily]

hit clear in the console and send screenshot of console red errors

[unreal garnet]

this is only a few of them

[south lily]

looks like your library forgot to generate what its supposed to generate

does closing and reopening reset the library errors at all?

[unreal garnet]

opened with all the errors

including the yellow ones i had cleared before

[south lily]

ok so... im semi hesitent to say “delete the library” in hopes unity will. replace whats missing. but i think itd b safer to make a new project and drag and drop everything from the old project into the new one

[unreal garnet]

I'll try that, but like I said I can't even get a blank project to show the sdk when i bring it in

well, the contents show in my assets but the menu button to build wont appear...

I've also tried restarting my computer many times throughout but didnt help

[south lily]

was the project working before?

[unreal garnet]

It was originally another project, I duplicated it, renamed it, changed a lot of stuff, and then found i couldnt build it

The original project i was able to build just fine, not sure at what point the build menu disappeared

I see how that might be problematic, but the sdk is giving me issues regardless even in an empty new project

[unreal garnet]

update: I downloaded unity on my windows partition and everythings working fine now thanks for your help

[lone quarry]

I wanted to make a Vrchat game. But Idk how really. And It seems like hard work.

[south lily]

it gets easier after awhile depending on how patient you are

youtube and unity docs are your friends

[unreal garnet]

im having a hard time finding tutorials on how to do specific things like allow an in game toggle to rotate skyboxes

[umbral socket]

well, you'd have to either control the offset parameter in the skybox's material, or you'd physically rotate the sky box (or sky sphere), if it were on a mesh.

different ways to approach it, and it depends on your experience with.. toggles, animators, or udon

[tough kestrel]

Hey, I'm trying to port one of my oldest maps over to Quest, and I'm just learning now that Standard Lite doesn't support realtime lights. Any workaround for that?

The world uses flashlights.

[south lily]

could stay on normal standard but im pretty sure standard lite allows rt lights

[tough kestrel]

Weird, since I switched everything over to standard lite, everything just ignores any realtime lights

[south lily]

could use a projector for flashlight. but as long as the map is relatively optimized. yiu should be able to get away with just standard

[tough kestrel]

Good to know, I'll play around with it! Thanks

[tough kestrel]

So, uhh.. Is there a tool out there to change shaders on materials en masse?

[wraith jewel]

You can search ur projects tab with "t:material" or "t:materials" one of the 2 and then select one material and shift select one far away to select all of them inbetween and then change the shader of them all

not the best way of doing things but its something

[tough kestrel]

Yeah, that's been my go to. I really wish you could filter by in scene

[tough kestrel]

In case anyone else runs into this, I just flipped everything back to Standard, made sure my occlusion culling was up to snuff, and everything runs A-ok

Without gutting the world too much, I got the PC (105Mb) version down to 49Mb for Quest

[lament owl]

If you aren't using crunch compression, switching textures to ASTC cuts them down by half too

[gaunt spade]

late but "NG Shader Finder Free" allows for converting mass shaders. the free version is limited to about 8 per interaction the paid version will do them all. I just use a macro with the free version because the confirmations pop in the same location. You can find it in the asset store.

[tough kestrel]

You are a god among men. Thank you!

[tough kestrel]

I'm a crunch compression man, but thanks for the tip, that's good info!

[wraith jewel]

Why is it saying that

[sweet tundra]

You have too many tags.

[wraith jewel]

Hi, ive recently uploaded a fallback. I have uploaded it both to android and windows, but it will not show up as a custom fallback. Is there any reason for this?
(It is under 10k polygons.)

[crisp lodge]

What is the avatar rating with bones etc? Can you show it in the sdk pre upload so we can see the stats?

[wraith jewel]

It’s just this https://yuuboku.booth.pm/items/3284267

[crisp lodge]

Ok, Could you still go show the SDK where you have the build button?

[wraith jewel]

One sec, I gotta open the file

[wraith jewel]

its been uploaded to both platforms, twice to quest

[crisp lodge]

It should be able to be used,
What does it say in game?

[wraith jewel]

it just doesnt show up

[crisp lodge]

[wraith jewel]

thats what im saying lol

[umbral ember]

you have to check "Use for Fallback"

to be able to choose custom fallback avatar

[unreal garnet]

Anyone ever come across this error before?

Oh ok thanks. Downloading visual studio now 👍

ooh good idea

Okay I made the change to the code and saved the notepad file, the error changed to this

and keep UI.Text instead of GUIText?

that didnt work

also it already said using UnityEngine at the top

using UnityEngine;*

like this?

ive just been saving the notepad file is there something else i need to do to apply the changes

i keep clicking clear but the most recent error i sent is still there

its weird somehow a second notepad window keeps opening

but i only opened it once

just restarted my project and the code is updated but error persists

thanks anyways

[silk harness]

Does any one know why standalone quest can't load videos or images from an external source in VRChat (like the internet) but hardcoded / embedded videos will work however? I just want to know the core issue. Is it kind of security realted things?

[unreal garnet]

Eeek anyone ever come across this error right after starting a new Unity project?

[fallen fossil]

I haven't seen in the rules that asking for a specific development isn't allowed (Sorry, I'm new here lol) I'm just wondering if anyone can take on a request possibly?

[fallen fossil]

Alrighty, thank you

[tough kestrel]

Am I just crazy, or do stations not work on Quest? (Primarily PC user, trying to optimize/make maps cross platform)

[south lily]

http request = security for android and unity request.

ytdl = ytdl is not on quest so there is no complex link resolving method

[south lily]

just spent 4 days working with stations and attempting to make them bend to my will but i an confirm that stations do work on quest

[silk harness]

Thank you very much for your reply. So you mean If I develop video player which only use http request then every user with standalone quest can enjoy the external sourced video, right?

[south lily]

otherway around

[silk harness]

ah... opposite....

That means ytdl should be equipped with quest?

So I should make quest version of ytdl.

[tough kestrel]

Perfect, thanks! I'll do some digging to see what's stopping them from working in my case...

[south lily]

raw data with https will work

[south lily]

with a offshore resolving method - yep

[silk harness]

Thank you very much!!!!!!!!!

[silk harness]

Oh my god!!!!! you are perfect.

I tested video at vimeo pro in https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_985acb34-cc17-4b5a-85ae-04ade5195059&instanceId=0

AVPRO standard player works with standalone quest2.

vimeo pro provide direct links to videos(https://vimeo.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/224823567-Direct-links-to-video-files)

The test has been successful with https, vimeo pro direct link for video play(not download). But new comer sync part is still problem.

I will check with other players in Video Player Showroom by techanon.

[south lily]

good choice

https://zapier.com/learn/how-to/generate-direct-dropbox-link/ this may help as well

[silk harness]

God.... thanks a lot!

[jovial kindle]

how to import world in to vrchat?

found it

[iron hare]

k so i'm trying to make my world quest compatible but its like 70mb. if i turn ever poster i made with thin cubes (28) into planes do you think i can shave off that 20mb i need to get it down?

[wraith jewel]

im pretty sure that will do prettymuch nothing, but if you want to have a better idea of whats taking all the storage space use this: https://github.com/oneVR/VRWorldToolkit/releases/tag/V2.0.0

whenever you build and upload (or attempt to and fail) it makes a report detailing what is what filesize

also i'd recommend making worlds in Blender, it seems like you are making them entirely in Unity which is not the best practice but yknow it still works obv

[iron hare]

thank!

[deft stone]

Anyone know how to fix my emote wheel on the quest 2, I can open the Main wheel but can't access anything

[gloomy parcel]

why are there shaders in VRChat Mobile that you still cant use on avatars.

why includthem with the SDK3 Avatar SDK

Diffuse dosen't even seem to render correctly. and Matcap Lit wont let you upload it.

[wraith jewel]

they are just more optimized alternatives for world shaders

Well matcap lit should work fine

and diffuse

actually now that i think about it why tf is lightmapped and the particle shaders even bothered to be included in the vrcsdk for avatars

I mean I guess you could use them on PC avatars but i think they should seperate the ones you cant use on quest avatars into a different catagory to avoid confusion

[sweet tundra]

Leftovers from when the two sdks were one sdk

[wraith jewel]

ah ok

[olive zinc]

hello, is there any built-in way to show the fps on the quest?

[sweet tundra]

Opening the quick menu will show your FPS in VRChat

[olive zinc]

🤦‍♂️ , thanks!

[languid zealot]

hi all - i'm part of the org team of MIT reality hack, one of the world's biggest AR/VR hackathons, and i'm looking for some folks to help me teach people to build vrchat worlds at reality fest, the VR hackathon we're running this weekend!

i'm relatively new to the team and can tell you that it's a fantastic community - we have so much fun together, and there are some really talented XR industry people involved who have taught me a ton about worldbuilding and VR event design (we've built custom interactive venues to make it feel like a real--and sometimes surreal 😉 --hackathon). so excited to bring some more people on board to help us bring this same spirit to our participants!

if this sounds like fun to you, you can fill out this form, or just shoot me a PM - whatever's easiest ☺️

https://tinyurl.com/realityfestmentor2021

[wraith jewel]

are they announcing the quest pro or the quest 2 plus on the 28th

make your bets now

[wraith jewel]

so im not baking any lights for my quest world but most of the map is just black.

Yet it looks fine in unity.

[patent zenith]

Thanks

[wraith jewel]

Super power cute boops you face

[vagrant schooner]

Perhaps the texture format or compression type you're using isn't supported on Quest

[toxic quail]

Heyo. When I change build target to android the lightmap seems to have gone super compress it became pixelated so I tested a new scene and the problem still presist

Is there any setting that I miss out or it has gone whack during the conversion?

[umbral socket]

That's a result of the default compression method used for android. You can change it to ASTC 2x2 to reduce artifacts

[toxic quail]

Ah thanks appreciate the reply ✨

[pure tusk]

Hey I was working on making a world quest2 compat is it true that there are no shaders that support emissions?

[pure tusk]

I found the documentation never mind

no cutout sadge

[craggy marlin]

Just FYI bootcamped Windows on my 2015 iMac worked for uploading Unity VRC world, as does Udon AVPro pulling vid from Vimeo Pro on Quest 2.

Audio and video are slightly out of sync (audio is a little early) and get glitches every now and then. All ears if anyone has any tips on that.

Lastly, does anyone know if it’s possible to livestream into the Udon AVPro for Quest? I’d be happy with just audio if had to.

[south lily]

vrcdn and technically twitch are streamable on vrcquest, i highly recommend getting vrcdn as doing the twitch way is super jank

[craggy marlin]

Awesome thank you for that!

[wide holly]

worlds can use emission just fine
but you won't be able to have bloom as post processing cannot be used in android worlds

[barren wing]

wanted to make a keypad for quest users that they can locally interact with to toggle objects?

I know there are prefabs for sdk3 keypads but the UI elements dont show up for some quest users

[barren wing]

nevermind i think i got my answer

[sweet tundra]

Quest avatars can’t use any physics components

More details: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/quest-content-limitations#components

[sweet tundra]

Yes

I don't know how to do that though

[pulsar parcel]

particle with negative velocity/gravity i think makes a springjoint like effect on quest

i dont really remember, someone told me a bit ago but i didnt care to listen that well :P

[wraith jewel]

Dunno if it's useful but @slow girder or some of the VRChat team could this be helpful at all for quest development of the game in any way??
https://uploadvr.com/quest-2-application-spacewarp/

To quote part of the site "Quest headsets will get a new feature called Application SpaceWarp next week, letting apps run at half framerate by generating every other frame synthetically"

Maybe for frame rates?

[slow girder]

Definitely looks interesting, we'll see how it goes

[wraith jewel]

id take more fps for a little bit extra visual wonkage

[rich epoch]

hi

[wraith jewel]

Sorry for late reply, but I was wanting also to stare it should let things run smooth for many quest applications, so I figured it's something u and the team may be able to check out

[broken crow]

Isnt this like real-time frame interpolation? Sounds like converting 30 fps to 48 fps on the fly

[wraith jewel]

Possible but I don't know for a fact

[sweet tundra]

I think it is but really complicated so you have more performance than just doing that

And also from 36 to 72 instead

or whatever fps the app targets

[broken crow]

Ive seen something like this on a website, 2 scrolling pictures had different frame rates, 30 fps and 144 fps. Another test did both the scrolls at 30 but one had used interpolation

[sweet tundra]

I'm fairly sure that Oculus already does this on desktop

[broken crow]

The scroll that used interpolation was still actually 30 fps, but the interpolation made it look like 90 fps

[sweet tundra]

Interpolation is magical (unless used to upscale anime to 60fps)

[broken crow]

Ive seen it used on lego stop motion before and i saw little to no artefacts in the interpolated version

[sweet tundra]

Most interpolation is intended for use on real-life video

As in: No smear frames, a constant frame-rate, etc

[broken crow]

Yes

[sweet tundra]

Which stop motion would have

[wraith jewel]

Umm dynamic bonesss on quesssttt???

Soooonnn???

I'll literally pay 200 dollars for that lol

[pulsar parcel]

animate fake dynamics for your avatar, or hope physics bones make it on quest when avatar dynamics are released

[molten marlin]

does anybody know how to upload a world in the quest 2 using unity ??

im trying to make a world but since i dont have permission to upload i dont know how to see my world on the quest 2

[wraith jewel]

the thing is anykind od dynamic bones on quest would kill performance even if optimised there is currently a way to make things move and flop on avatars tho

[wraith jewel]

you have to switch your build project from windows, TO android. Android builds uploaded to VRChat will be accessible by Quest users

[bold hare]

Why does quest not have access to the camera feature. it would be so nice to actually be able to take pictures with friends

[fair tinsel]

they're adding the camera next update

[pulsar parcel]

Camera is coming to the Quest version of VRChat in our next major update!
Seems like it'll come next big update, so most likely not alongside small patches that may come next.

[fair tinsel]

fair but at least they announced it's coming out

[potent drift]

I don’t know about you, but I’m pretty psyched for the new quest camera

[unreal garnet]

Hi quest devs, I saw there was a recent update to vrchat and I noticed I was able to enter worlds over 50mb! Does anyone know if all of the particle shaders are still broken for quest avatars?

[south lily]

they were never broken afaik.

[pulsar parcel]

they turned black when used on particles in game

[pulsar parcel]

i don’t think that’s been fixed sadly, but you could try the legacy particle shaders if making a world

if using on an avatar, i don’t think there’s an alternative

[south lily]

interesting... sounds like a weird gi issue but if its happening everywhere then I guess 🤔 thats an issue

[indigo chasm]

Hey so It's not letting ig some oculus players get on Vrchat cause it goes like it's about to open up but then closes.

[lament locust]

Yea I’ve been experiencing that since yesterday

Will it need a whole new update just for the people that can’t get on just to be fixed?

I’m only guessing

[wraith jewel]

VRChat support might know about it, can make a ticket to them #vrchat-support

[pulsar parcel]

need both controllers connected

https://vrchat.canny.io/open-beta/p/1144-quest-crashes-on-launch-with-disconnected-controller

[lament locust]

I sent a support message the day I realized that the stuff was happening

[lament locust]

Wait could this be the reason why I can’t get on I only have one controller because my other one broke

[vagrant schooner]

You could try launching VRChat with no controllers connected or using a gamepad

I've heard those options work

Not great that you have to do either but ya'know ...it's VRChat so

[lament locust]

With the gamepad part could it be a Xbox controller?

[pulsar parcel]

if its one of the xbox controllers that supports bluetooth yes

[vagrant schooner]

Or if you have a USB C to USB A-in/female adapter then you could use a wired one

[lament locust]

Yes it works! Thank you so much!

[sterile mural]

You couldnt run a micro usb from the controller to a usb c to the headset @vagrant schooner

[vagrant schooner]

When did I mention micro usb?

I just mean something like this

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71xWh67sBNL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

[brittle hull]

Usb-C otg adapters are tiny now days

[nova sluice]

I see that PostProcessingVolume doesn't work on quest, is there any way to have it work?
trying to at least implement a sleeping mode using tonemapping

[vale sierra]

post processing is not supported on quest

you'll have to use a shader

[nova sluice]

ah, damn, thanks

[south lily]

hiribiki has a good darkening volume shader that seems pretty optimal on quest

[pulsar parcel]

pls implement i love worlds with sleep mode/brightness control

[sweet onyx]

You can add it by using a black semitransparent inverted cube or quad covering the camera

And just change the opacity

[wraith jewel]

Id just make the cube a child of the main camera so it follows the POV of the User ingame right?

[sweet onyx]

You have to use a camera follower. The main camera isn't actually included in world uploads so not as a child

camera follower in udon is just set position of object to VRCPlayerAPI GetTrackingData(Head)

Or you can use the screenspace canvas trick from sdk2 but udon is better

[wraith jewel]

I need to learn udon

not like I would use sdk2 instead thats gross but I just don't understand udon

[sweet onyx]

@wraith jewel if you're using SDK2 it's just called a player tracker prefab. You can get it from the Toybox in prefabs DB. Make sure you install standard assets first from the unity asset store

[wraith jewel]

ewww sdk2

[sweet onyx]

but yeah SDK2 is 🔪 on the chopping block

[wraith jewel]

die

[sweet onyx]

I thought you just said you hadn't upgraded to udon yet lol

but yeah use udon if you can

[wraith jewel]

I dont have any buttons or udon things its just a world

[sweet onyx]

aha I see

lol Prefabs database only has complicated prefabs. nothing simple like a head tracker

it's funny what doesn't get added to the spreadsheet because everyone assumes someone else has already done it

[wraith jewel]

mayb Cyan has a prefab for that\

[sweet onyx]

yeah!!!
https://github.com/CyanLaser/CyanTrigger/wiki/Guides#playertracking

I just asked and sure enough. Get CyanTrigger

ping me if you need help with the material, but basically an inverted sphere around the player's head with transparent black shader should do what you want

[wraith jewel]

oh I was going to do this for like audio that follows a player

or like a light

thanks though

[sweet onyx]

oh right, that was for @nova sluice who was asking how to darken a quest world

[agile cloak]

quick question, would it be possible if Nvidia's CloudXR was implemented into the Quest version so it could provide some level of compatibility with PC only worlds?

I’m not sure about how bad input lag would be, but it would be worth a try

[pulsar parcel]

soo.. cloud pc streaming vr game to quest?
you can already do that with virtual desktop and a cloud rig

i dont think it would be implemented into the quest standalone app either

[sterile mural]

You didnt just asking

I know what the adapters are

[agile cloak]

I meant for the Quest only version, not via AirLink

Not everyone has a capable rig that can run VRC in VR mode on top of streaming it to a Quest after all, it’s why the Quest is as popular as it is

[pulsar parcel]

AirLink only works with PCs on your local network. Virtual Desktop can stream games from computers not on your local network.

VRChat would never implement something like that, at least not for free. Servers for that kind of thing are ridiculously expensive. It would make more sense to just rent out a cloud pc from an already existing service and use VD to stream it.

[agile cloak]

The whole point of Nvidia’s CloudXR is that Nvidia themselves do the rendering on their backend without the developers having to maintain servers

which is why I suggested it specifically, VD still depends on servers or other computers while CloudXR depends on the Nvidia servers who do all the rendering

[pulsar parcel]

how is using CloudXR different than a server running VD? what is there for the client to do if the game is run on a server?

[agile cloak]

It’s already displayed how it would work on the page that explains how CloudXR works

[pulsar parcel]

i see that, and it shows that the game would run on nvidias servers and stream over to the quest

[agile cloak]

All the client would do is receive and display the data on the headset

[pulsar parcel]

that is exactly what VD does

[agile cloak]

That’s the point I’m making and why I suggested it in the first place

And it would save the devs the cost of maintaining servers because Nvidia would harbor that cost (I think)

[pulsar parcel]

i dont think nvidia would run free servers for people to play pcvr vrchat

[agile cloak]

It’s because for now, it’s a limited program they’re doin cuz it’s brand new

[pulsar parcel]

i think there are too many users on quest vrchat to even think about testing it here

[agile cloak]

Was only suggesting that they at least try it on PC worlds only

[pulsar parcel]

you'd need to start a vrchat instance on the nvidia servers, log the user in, sync the configs on the quest to the pc side, seamlessly transition from standalone to streamed PCVR, and then load the world the user was attempting to enter

then having to sync any screenshots or config changes back to the quest so they persist as well

seems like a really cool idea but a pain to implement

[fathom birch]

I remember seeing something about audio channels on Quest requirements... would having like 40 different audio sources, but only two-three playing at a time cause problems?

[vale sierra]

possibly, depending on how they're set up

https://www.gamedeveloper.com/audio/unity-audio-import-optimisation---getting-more-bam-for-your-ram

with a lot of audio clips you'll also want to really take care of what import settings they're using, if they're all in decompress on load they would take up a nice chunk of ram and potentially cause out of memory issues on quest etc. Multiple audio sources playing at the same time also take up more cpu on quest than pc.

[fathom birch]

Thank you, i'll combine them into one that gets thrown around as needed instead into different positions

[split zealot]

Hey, I'm having some trouble installing The oculus PC app, If anyone could help that would be wonderfull

[merry birch]

Yeah so my VRchat just crashes everytime I join and spawn in my home world. can someone help?

[placid egret]

Is there any way to stream audio to a quest world from a dropbox link?

[viral matrix]

Try going to your default home world if you dont crash, change your home world

[rancid fern]

https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/

[placid egret]

Are there any Shaders that work for quest that incorporate scrolling or Flipbooks? Poiyomi shaders apparently don't work correctly on Quest

[shell monolith]

is there way to a world in quest 2 standalone before uploading to it?

[livid basin]

i got question

i having problem with Quest 2 in VrChat

ever since that i got Quest 2

[vital cosmos]

Could the quest 2 have a camera please?

Like we could whip out a camera like pc vr players can?

[glad shadow]

It's already coming in the next update

[vital cosmos]

Really!?!

Let's go

I'm excited

When is the next update?

[inner crest]

n e v e r 😶‍🌫️

[lethal lark]

[random shore]

Bruh

[inner crest]

:c

[agile cloak]

So little update on ASW
It released and there seems to not be obvious drawbacks

Hopefully this means that VRC’s polygon limit can be lifted a bit and that some of the limitations would be lifted as well

[fair tinsel]

probably not going to do that because they would want to have the frame rate stay at a good level instead of just everyone going to the new maximum and tanking the framerate again

[agile cloak]

Considering that ASW can render at 36 FPS or 45 FPS, I think they could strongly get more performance in

FB/Meta promises a 70% increase in performance with it after all

[fair tinsel]

question does it work on the quest 1

[agile cloak]

Yup it does

Only in the 36 FPS mode tho

[fair tinsel]

and I doubt like sound effects or lights would be able to be used on avatars even with that as the CPU cost of those can get very high very quickly

[agile cloak]

(Which means the frame rate in game would be 72 btw)

Eh fair enough, would still like for the limitations to be lifted since this new tool is really powerful

[fair tinsel]

like having a real-time light basically makes the render cost of everything twice as expensive

so if like everybody in the room had one that would get very expensive

[agile cloak]

Maybe not real-time light but shit like DynamicBone and upping the polygon limit would be greatly appreciated and even possible with this

[fair tinsel]

there's no reason for them to add support for dynamic bones as they're replacing it outright with physics bones

[agile cloak]

Still though

[fair tinsel]

and also the question of what does vrchat need to do to add support for ASW

[agile cloak]

I think it’s just adding the SDK

[fair tinsel]

does the SDK support the version of unity vrchat is using

[agile cloak]

I checked and sadly, it doesn’t seem like it does

[fair tinsel]

so yeah that's probably going to be literal years before that's doable

[fair tinsel]

and also vrchat doesn't use openxr at the moment

[agile cloak]

It requires 2020.3.22f1

Bummer

[fair tinsel]

so yeah it's not the Magic Bullet To Save users from having to learn how to optimize

[burnt berry]

sorry im not sure where to ask this, but ive been trying to connect my pc and quest 2 together using airlink but when i launch vrchat it gets very disorientated and slow, but on my pc monitor it looks fine i dont think its my vr headset because i got it yesterday um is there anyway i could fix this?

[stuck kettle]

hello i wanted is . when or if quest dose get the physics bones vrchat. well they also let us use constraints that unity haves. like rotations constraints. as i know there not very profromens heavy. and have no colliders . so is it possible to have that for quest? as ill give us more options for model making.

[sweet tundra]

Also, it needs URP, which VRChat doesn’t use either.

[quartz river]

Wait. Is it confirmed that they're going to add physics to quest?

[fair tinsel]

not 100% confirmed but they're going to try really hard to get the physics bones in

[undone trellis]

@slow girder for quest when you take pictures with camera where do you find the pictures at

[fervent knot]

Can't find pictures

PC:
Your pictures are still there! They are now being saved to sub-folders based on the year and month.

Just look in your Pictures folder > VRChat > [Year-Month]

Quest:
The images are saved in the Quest's Pictures folder under VRChat, and can be accessed via the Quest's OS.

They can also be accessed via connecting your Quest to your PC and looking under the Pictures/VRChat folder

[reef knot]

On quest, how come the new update makes everyone lag?

[wraith jewel]

What about dynamic bones?

[fair tinsel]

never going to be implemented because they're too resource-intensive

[wraith jewel]

Damn. Alright

[fair tinsel]

that's why they're making physics bones because Dynamic bones was too heavy

[wraith jewel]

Oh like a alternative

[merry birch]

so basically bootleg dynamics

nice

[sweet tundra]

Except it runs better

And has actual triggers to do things on a collision or similar

[merry birch]

nice

[sacred marsh]

This has probably been asked before, but why is there not a way to just download the quest version as an APK and run it in bluestacks or something. I'd like to make my worlds Quest compatible, but I'm not willing to go buy a Quest Headset to do that. There needs to be a way to troubleshoot and run the android client without the hardware.

[left rain]

When I develop Quest worlds, I’m able to test most things in Unity editor, except FPS on Quest.

[sturdy cape]

how to fix the favriote on avatars when i delete a avatar and come off of menu and go back on menu avatars it still says 25/25

[sweet tundra]

Just wait, the api will process the request and update it, but it can take a few hours

[wraith jewel]

When will that update come out?

[fair tinsel]

no clue at this point

[leaden vine]

What are physics bones?

[wraith jewel]

VRChat's homemade version of Dynamic Bones, that is projected to be at least x10 more optimized than Dynamic Bones and do pretty much the same stuff it does and more

There is no guarentee that Physics Bones will be available on quest when it gets released, but if it is optimized enough then the Devs will put it on the Quest VRC

[empty nexus]

is there ever gonna be a recording camera for the quest in the future???

[wraith jewel]

You can record from your perspective I think.

[empty nexus]

yeah ik, but a recording camera like the photo camera in game but a recording one

[wraith jewel]

But not from a camera.

[leaden vine]

Is it possible to search avatars

[wraith jewel]

You can search for tags from the menu to find avatar worlds.

[leaden vine]

Oh ok

[cunning cradle]

So, question is anyone else on quest, unable to log in since this new update? I can’t tell if it is just me.

I will get the loading screen, be on it for a 1-2 minutes, log in and then crash. I have uninstalled and reinstalled, I have factory reset, not sure if it is the new update or not.

I figured this went here since, quest development and all.

Also, I would like to mention sometimes it lets me log in, play for a bit, I go to work, come back, and it is broken again.

[prisma fable]

The whole loading screen and crash happened to me before the update. But it was obvious since I got a pop-up saying I needed to update. After the update everything worked fine for me.

[cunning cradle]

It hasn’t worked for me since the update, I legit go on Thursday after it started working again before work, got off work, hopped on and it hasn’t worked since.

[prisma fable]

I'm sorry I don't know what's going on with yours 😅

[cunning cradle]

It is fine, no need to apologize, I even hoped on steam vrc to see if it was my account or something but it runs fine, nothing wrong or anything. It is just on the headset and the headset runs every other game I have on it perfectly, just vrc.

[coarse talon]

Was using the picture camera in Quest, and none of the pictures saved to my headset. Is anyone else experiencing that? Because I took many pictures while spending time with friends only to not have them when I went to transfer them to PC moments ago. I just went on VRChat, took a few pictures then checked the files and they weren't there either.

[random shore]

thats indeed weird. they should be showing up right away. but just incase try going to twitter or instagram on the quest internet browser just to be able to send a picture to someone and try to send a picture there. in case they are being saved in the wrong place for sure you can see all pictures your device has there

[coarse talon]

Updated the browser to do exactly that, and they're still not there. What I'm guessing is that the latest update yesterday messed up the file saving, as it worked beforehand.

It's a shame that I have lost the pictures though. I planned to upload some of them to insta and share with other friends too.

[coral karma]

Im also having this problem, but im trying to find out how to get them onto my phone instead but im not sure where to find the photos or how to get them to my phone.

[coarse talon]

Usually after taking a picture it would go into the files application, under VRChat > Pictures > year-day.
There's an option within the files to synchronise media files with the oculus app on your phone. Either that or you can do as I went to, and link cable to a PC, and them transfer them to your mobile that way.

[coral karma]

I used to do that, but atm my pc is down and i couldnt find a way to save pictures.

[coarse talon]

Then I'd say that the media sync is your current method of file transfer.

[coral karma]

ah i think i figured it out

[torn folio]

Hey does the new VRC camera work for anyone? I can take regular oculus screenshots but with the new camera the pictures aren't saved anywhere.

[fervent knot]

Can't find pictures

PC:
Your pictures are still there! They are now being saved to sub-folders based on the year and month.

Just look in your Pictures folder > VRChat > [Year-Month]

Quest:
The images are saved in the Quest's Pictures folder under VRChat, and can be accessed via the Quest's OS.

They can also be accessed via connecting your Quest to your PC and looking under the Pictures/VRChat folder

[fervent knot]

Can't find pictures

PC:
Your pictures are still there! They are now being saved to sub-folders based on the year and month.

Just look in your Pictures folder > VRChat > [Year-Month]

Quest:
The images are saved in the Quest's Pictures folder under VRChat, and can be accessed via the Quest's OS.

They can also be accessed via connecting your Quest to your PC and looking under the Pictures/VRChat folder

[wooden onyx]

quests OS??

[jagged seal]

Where can I find documentation about how the Quest locates it's controllers? How are the drivers implemented?

[bright rivet]

Suprising enough I’m able to find my photos

[wooden onyx]

how?

[brittle hull]

Quest has its own os
You can fine the photos in the files app

[wooden onyx]

i know but as of 2 days ago they’ve been gone

[brittle hull]

Maby connect your quest to your pc and see if they excist in the fs

[bright rivet]

The file browser

[brittle hull]

FS means file system but ehh file explorer works too

[pulsar nova]

So I’ve been reading back a bit about the camera problem and have a question, since the camera were added was there any update that changed how they function?

According to other people around the time vrchat got updated was around the time camera began to not upload the pictures taken so just a heads up to quest people the camera will most likely be down until the next update (whenever that is)

[south lily]

cams work, they just dont work all the time

[pulsar nova]

Every picture I have tried taking was not uploaded into my files, I mean the camera itself is accessible but none of the pictures are saving, and it’s happening to every quest user I have ran into

Sorry I’m just trying to gather more information on the matter simply because I also was unable to sync my media to the oculus app yesterday when I tried so it’s not just an in game issue I believe

[south lily]

i havent messed with settings much but from my point of view, it sounds like the folder its supposed to save photos is locked

[pulsar nova]

I’ll check this in a bit but I doubt it would be locked for everyone on quest 😅

[south lily]

and all my other quest friends and peeps have had 0 issues except me, but i blamed myself for possibly missing the button lol

[south lily]

like as a security check or something, like how windows and mac allows you to lock access to folders

but i havent dwelved into the settings deep enough to see anything like that yet

[pulsar nova]

Ya I understand, thank you for your time also sorry I’m currently in school and class for me just started so I have to get going but after I’ll try and check the files and see if it is locked, thank you

[dense ether]

How do you unlock the files?

[wraith jewel]

It’s definitely a bug. Every quest user I know that has been attempting to take pictures on the vrc camera recently has had the issue lately where the photo isn’t uploading or saving anywhere. I’m just wondering when they’ll fix that.

We didn’t have this issue before. I don’t think any files would be locked.

[dense ether]

Just got a message from vrc and they said they’re tracking the camera issue but it won’t be fixed till a future update whenever that is

[wooden onyx]

they probably won’t update for a week

[dense ether]

That’s the part I hate. The waiting

[wraith jewel]

At least they’re aware and working on it now.

[jagged seal]

One week turnout would be exceptional.

[calm ivy]

im glad this is being worked on bc the struggle of images.. pain

[wraith jewel]

the storage permission's not there in the latest update, it was there before

[wraith jewel]

downgraded my vrc to v1156 and I can take pictures just fine

[brittle hull]

Downquest be like

[wooden onyx]

how does one downgrade

[wraith jewel]

same I wanna know this😭

[thorn widget]

Wait you can do that?

[dense ether]

I don’t think you can do it on quest but rather on pc

Looks like they’re fixing the camera with an upcoming patch which should be within the next week or so

[wraith jewel]

I use sidequest or sideloaded the old version of the game, u can Google how but I can't really explain it here
Edit: update came out, no point of doing this now

[wraith jewel]

Is it fixed now?

yes

[forest viper]

Can sound be for avatars come out for guest please

[thin parrot]

Will there be slime vr support on quest since it already works standalone and if so that would be great?

[wraith jewel]

The Devs might one day when standalone slime vr becomes mainstream, I dont see it happening within a year but thats my unofficial not-a-dev guess

[thin parrot]

Yea ur probably right but that would be nice to have fbt on quest sooner

[autumn acorn]

I wonder if we will ever get shaders

[wraith jewel]

ye got yer shaders in the VRCSDK child!!

make use of matcap lit or standard lite will ye

[autumn acorn]

hell yeah

[unreal garnet]

Hi quest devs. Does anyone here have any experience putting a bunch of .OBJs together in blender somehow to make a cuatom avatar? The .objs for some reason give each polygon its material so I can't just join everything and rig it, because the VRCSDK limits avatars to under 3 materials (1 recommended)

[wraith jewel]

what object files are you using that do something insane like that?

yea please even a computer couldnt handle hundreds and thousands of materials on a single model

[unreal garnet]

but it works based on " liked named materials" and my materials are m1-m300+

[wraith jewel]

bruh

i think there has to be a better way to rip the models

no just a better tool that doesnt produce objs in such a shitty way

[wraith jewel]

What causes desync on identical objects that sync fine between pc to pc user/quest to quest but then doesn't sync at all when e.g. a pc user draws with a pen but the quest user cannot see it?

[south lily]

hierarchy most likely, but theres obvs other issues that could be afoot

[wraith jewel]

Thank you, I will test in smaller project to troubleshoot further incase the hierarchy is the issue

[south lily]

they must be the same

[proven terrace]

Yo how do i record via the quest via a command?

[crude summit]

ok soo.. does anyone know how to fix this.. weird texture glitch that sometimes happens with avatars??

[wraith jewel]

does the weird coloring only occur with certain shaders?

if so it could be vertex colors

youd remove those in a software like Blender or smth else

[crude summit]

alright, i'll try that. thanks!