world-lighting

[molten kestrel]

Ah, those were set up by someone before

They must be way off

I have postprocessing

[glossy meteor]

silent has a guide for bloom
https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/SCSS/-/wikis/Other/Post-Processing#bloom

[molten kestrel]

Thanks, I'll have a look. Seems like I should have this stuff disabled for now so I can get the lighting right without it.

[glossy meteor]

you will need to know how it looks both ways

[molten kestrel]

I guess

Looks like more trial-end-error as I have no idea what I'm doing 🤷🏻‍♂️

[glossy meteor]

post processing does not affect how the world will be baked, it is a final additional processing of the scene

[pearl sinew]

what are some good settings that look good and optimized, but wont take 40+ hours to bake like my current ones?

[glossy meteor]

depends on your scene, try the gpu lightmapper, it's often faster
some people use bakery, a paid lightmapper, also requires nvidia gpu though

also, share your lightmapper bake settings

[pearl sinew]

already using gpu, and i think my settings are default, i dont recall changing them

[glossy meteor]

i would reduce lightmap resolution down to 20 and see how that goes

what hardware do you have?

[pearl sinew]

lemme check, its been a while

Radeon RX 570

[royal latch]

Would anyone mind giving me some advice? I'm working with one 3d mesh (190mb .fbx + 90mb .png) and one directional light. I have both set to static. I've got a reflection probe and light probes set up. I am using the enlighten lightmapper with the lowest possible resolution and other settings. When I click to generate lighting, I get stuck on "0/11 Create Geometry|1 Jobs" for at least two hours. I don't want to eat up power if this just isn't going to work. My CPU is 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 and my GPU is Radeon Pro 580. Any help is much appreciated.

[twilit lily]

how do you get a 190mb fbx file?

[green vault]

is it a single mesh?

[royal latch]

yeah one mesh

[green vault]

assuming it has a lot of vertices and woa

hmm, ye no the unity lightmapper will not like you

is it all one material?

[royal latch]

yessir thank goodness

[green vault]

might be able to bake in blender

unless you need lightprobe stuff

[royal latch]

so i was able to get it up on vrc for quest without any lightmaps, little "cheating" that usually doesnt cause any lag. but this one is super buggy

and i assumed its because of no lightmaps

maybe theres a better way to optimize it?

[green vault]

um, how big is it in unity meters and how many poligons?

there might be via camera tricks but since its all one mesh, its gonna be weird

youre batching the mesh right?

[royal latch]

I have it scaled so that a vrc avatar is like 1/3 the height of the big building

sry idk what batching is

[green vault]

when you set the mesh to static

theres a dropdown for batching

[royal latch]

batching static is enabled

is it bad that i have the mesh scaled to 100x100x100? i didnt do anything in blender before trying to use the fbx in unity

[green vault]

no, unless it says theres a floating point issue

[royal latch]

it doesnt

wait a sec im seeing "objects size in lightmap has reached the max atlas size"

not sure what that means either

[green vault]

did you generate lightmap uvs?

[royal latch]

i tried to generate the lightmap uvs with import settings like usual but it did infinite loading wheel which i assume meant same thing as the other way stuck on 0/11 generating geometry

maybe it would help to crop it and decimate it in unity? the vrchat file is 88mb

[green vault]

i think its just way too much geometry to handle. id go to blender and make your own uv2s and import it back in and see if it attempts baking

along with decimating it a little bit

[glossy meteor]

how many tris is this mesh?

[royal latch]

not sure how to tell

also whats a uv2

[glossy meteor]

you can see that in your 3d program
also, it's the lightmap uv you generate in your 3d program or in unity

unity may generate suboptimal uv2s though

[royal latch]

okay its 3.93m triangles

[next owl]

that's ludicrous

[green vault]

thats big number, if you really need all the polies, i suggest cutting up the mesh into like, 40 different sections at least

otherwise, please decimate

[royal latch]

I decimated it in half and still having troubles

[next owl]

many worlds have a poly count of like... 150k or less. if you're going to use geometry that dense, you definitely can't rely on unity's built-in unwrapper for uv2, you'll have to lay it out yourself in blender or whatever app you're using

at half density you still have 2 million triangles which is just completely nuts

my advice is to spend some time breaking down your models and figure out what you actually need as geometry vs what you can fake with baked textures, what you can break into modular parts and instance on the GPU, etc

[ionic torrent]

so im here to pick someones smart brain hopefully, im experimenting with unity terrains and trees but every time i bake the lighting the trees also get lighting, i think this is because of emission materials baking onto them, how can i stop this

they are too far to be all glowing

bottom one is when i clear baked data

[ionic torrent]

i have officially reached the bottom of my rope, ive tried everything i know, my brain is now mush, ive been bested by trees

[glossy meteor]

what's your light source

[analog raft]

where can i get that furtniture and materials? they look super comfy

[worthy void]

Is there a way to make a directional light that only effects players? Not the world

[green vault]

in the direct light component, theres a “culling mask”, use this to limit what gets effected by the light

[oblique badge]

Hey guys im new to building worlds i did my first world and im trying to bake light but whenever i bake it its coming out so bright, heres some pictures before bake and after. also this my first time using unity so sorry if this is a newbie question

[oblique badge]

i figured it out it was one of the emissive materials it was too intense

[mystic orchid]

alright, returning after a week break, tried troubleshooting this. Changing the filter changes the light color, but it still absolutely ignores temperature...

oh, and I have stringlights I want to emit light- emissions works for that, right? I can't seem to get it to work..

[next owl]

you need the string lights to be flagged as static, along with anything you want to receive the light, and then you need to put an emissive material on the string lights, something fairly bright. then bake. you'll probably also want some post-process bloom to make the lights look like they're glowing.

[wooden zenith]

Ok can someone help me with my lighting as i after baking it, it looked terrible and then i was able to bring it back to the way i want but now when i go into my world it looks a lot different then what unity shows me as the everything is so dark and shit

[twilit lily]

a few things to check when baking:
is everything necessary marked as static?
does every object have generate lightmap uv checked?
are lights set to baked?

[trim tusk]

Anyone know why my pillow are lighting up properly but the other asset isn't?

[twilit lily]

are they marked static?

[trim tusk]

Both are.

[twilit lily]

are generate lightmap UVs enabled for both too?

[trim tusk]

Yep

[trim tusk]

Fixed it!

@twilit lily Thanks for your help

[twilit lily]

what was the issue now?

[trim tusk]

Set the layer to "Playerlocal"

[trim tusk]

Actually maybe not.

Doing that just makes my character fall through the world.

The lighting is good though when I do that.

[oblique badge]

any idea how to fix this

also how do you make your shadows appear more high quality, I baked in 4k but here is how some of the shadows look

[wooden zenith]

Hey how did i decsrease my mb size when i bake the lighting

[wooden zenith]

ok why is my character giving a weird red haze after i baked lighting

[modest vapor]

Do you have post processing in your world ?

[wooden zenith]

No

But i ise poyomi

[brittle saddle]

I need help. I've been trying to bake lights for two days. this is pre bake

And this is when I bake it

I followed Iconoclass's tutorial on this exactly and his came out so realistic and vibrant where as mine.... well didnt

[mystic orchid]

getting color artifacts on everything- no errors about lightmaps overlapping or anything :v

[rugged harness]

Increase your texel density. You'll get color artifacts when the baking resolution is too low. If you're baking low to save time making the map, when you increase the texel density they'll be much less noticeable.

[mystic orchid]

what's a good texel size?

[modest vapor]

Up to 40 for interiors/smaller maps

Increase your samples too

[mystic orchid]

that's on 40 ;;

32 samples

[modest vapor]

Way too low

[mystic orchid]

ah kk

[modest vapor]

Try 512

[mystic orchid]

wheezing

[modest vapor]

[flint path]

I never bake with a texel size over 20 :pressure:

[tacit nova]

How do I set a Directional light that only affect the users that join the world?

[modest vapor]

That's an Udon question

[tacit nova]

okay ty

[uncut hawk]

does anyone know how to make lighting and lasers rotate to the EQ band of music? I am using the VRstagelighthing pack and they all flash to the beat but i would like rotations and angles

this is what I have so far

[mystic orchid]

Heyo! I've been having a hard time with bakery spot lights for the past week ;;
This is the same light as the one on the left, after baking
The left one is a regular, non-bakery light, set to realtime for comparison of the effect I'm wanting
What am I doing wrong?

Should be noted it seems it's this specific room; the spotlight in the hallway works just fine, and all I did was copy/paste em

[agile night]

is VRcat down? I'm looking for XieXie's lighting tutorial since i'm getting back into making worlds

[modest vapor]

Mmh, it does seem to be down currently

[agile night]

it be that way 😔

[mystic orchid]

in reference to this, you mean this?:

[modest vapor]

yes, the light component themselves also have their own sample count that you can increase

[mystic orchid]

wild. I upped it to 512, took about 45m to render, and I'm left with the same colors everywhere ;;

[modest vapor]

might want to add a bit more padding to your lightmaps then

[mystic orchid]

Turns out they are overlapping, I had the warnings turned off

[ionic torrent]

late response but the materials are found on ambientcg and the assets are mine

[next owl]

is there a reason why avatars would be reflecting differently than static objects? i have plenty of reflection probes in the scene, but i noticed that avatars with specular materials are looking much brighter than they should compared to the world itself

[ionic torrent]

could be a whole list of reasons, the materials used on the avatars could have slightly altered and behaving properties and it might also be the probe lighting

also do you have any post processing that might kick bloom up alot?

[next owl]

light probes only affect diffuse lighting though, right? this is definitely specular/reflective lighting i'm seeing.

it's not bloom, there's no glow around the reflections or anything. my avatar is a little specular and the edge lighting on it gets too hot in the world i'm building

like if it were properly reading the reflection probes, i'd expect the underside at least to be darker, given that it should be reflecting the floor... but it's just as bright underneath

[ionic torrent]

as silly as it might be, have you tried using real time reflections and different avatars with similar settings but slightly altered?

[next owl]

i haven't... was avoiding realtime reflections as much as possible

[ionic torrent]

yeah i do not blame you

is there a distant object that might provide excess light or anything in the scene

[analog raft]

That is so cool!

[next owl]

one directional light in mixed mode and one baked skylight

[ionic torrent]

try messing around with the directional light, maybe make it so it doesnt cull players or playerlocal

things that would cause the player to be highlighted

[next owl]

worth a try. thanks

[ionic torrent]

😅

best of luck, hope it helps somewhat

[next owl]

i'm used to lighting in offline renderers; unity is very finicky.

[celest sedge]

I'm getting a lot of artifacts when baking in android build. Does not happen in PC. I've tried increasing lighting quality settings like texels per unit and such but it does not seem to make much of a difference

does anyone know any way to improve this?

[fallow lark]

apparently swapping the lightmap compression format to ASTC 4x4 helps

[celest sedge]

hm I don't see ASTX format

[fallow lark]

ASTC sorry made a typo

[celest sedge]

will try thanks

[fallow lark]

currently loading Unity so I can screenshot how to set that

[celest sedge]

yeah that worked, thanks!

[fallow lark]

glad to be of help and good that you're doing baked lighting

[wooden sail]

Im adding lighting to my world, and wanted to add in neon lights. I've set it to bake and Emissive and then generated lighting yet it doesn't seem to change. Brand new to lighting, so any info helps

[wanton wind]

Hello, following along with iconoclass’s vrchat world building tutorial series. The baked lighting in my unity scene looks good, but when testing in vrchat the whole scene is over saturated. I can’t seem to find what I am missing…

[wanton wind]

I noticed the lighting settings change when pressing Build & Test in the Builder tab of the VRChat SDK control panel. So I'm assuming there is a build setting I need to change somewhere.

Lighting Mode changes from Baked Indirect to Shadowmask

[modest vapor]

Do you use post processing in your scene ?

[wanton wind]

I setup post processing through VRWorld Toolkit following the tutorial.

[modest vapor]

Do you have a comparison image between the two ?

[wanton wind]

In unity vs VRChat:

It seems like it is completely ignoring the lightmap that I baked in Unity. I'm completely new to this so not sure if I missed something in the tutorial or there is something simple I am missing.

[modest vapor]

Can you look at the generated lightmaps ?

[wanton wind]

In the preview pane?

[modest vapor]

yup

[modest vapor]

Can you locate them in your Asset files ?

If for some reason they're not located where Unity expects them, they might not be bundled on export

Could be something else I'm unaware of though

[wanton wind]

I found Lightmap-0_comp_light.exr in Assets/Scenes/SampleScene

[blazing stream]

it seems like the lightmaps are there but their not being decompressed properly

[modest vapor]

Try changing the lightmap compression format to ASTC 4x4

[wanton wind]

Apologies, I am trying to find where that is. Also, it seems like it is rebuilding my lightmaps with different settings when I select Build & Test. In the lighting window the settings change when I perform that action.

[modest vapor]

Have you tried doing a full upload ?

[wanton wind]

No, maybe I should try that. I was testing in CyanEmu and decided to test it in VRChat when I discovered this problem.

I'll give it a shot.

Same issue after uploading.

[modest vapor]

Have you tried a new blank project with a simple scene and baking with default settings ?

You can then switch the main lighting/baking settings in that test scene and then you might find out what the cause is

[wanton wind]

I'll have to give that a shot. Since it doesn't seem like a simple solution at the moment I'll probably have to call it tonight. Thank you for your help!

[modest vapor]

Let me know if you end up figuring it out

[wanton wind]

Will do

[mint cipher]

I have a pickupable object on a table. When I bake my scene, it permanently creates a shadow where this object is. How do I disable this pickupable object from casting a shadow?

Oh I see, you can disable it in Mesh Renderer > Lighting > Cast Shadows

[hallow hound]

@mint cipher if its a pickup object that make the shadow you got it on static un scheck it you cant move the pick up if its on static expect if you have a realty in then yes uncheck the cast shadows

[agile night]

Is there a way to get my light map UVs to not overlap that doesn't involve editing my meshes in blender?

[glossy meteor]

try ticking generate lightmap uv in the mesh import settings
may result in ineffecient uvs though

[agile night]

Aside from getting a few splotches on the ceiling near the lights it seems okay. But I feel like that's probably more related to having a low texel density right?

I've generated UVs on the building itself

[glossy meteor]

you need to rebake after ticking this option

low texel count can cause artefacts

low sample count and texture compression too

[agile night]

This scene is a bake after ticking this option on all objects. I will keep these things in mind. Thanks cake

Also I've noticed that applying materials to models through the import settings is incredibly slower after generating light map UVs. I don't know why this is.

It's made me think twice about the order of how I build my scene

[wanton wind]

@modest vapor So I'm not sure what I did. But I deleted the lights before I got off last night. Got on tonight to work on my problem and added a directional light and point light back in to the scene. Baked lighting and tested in VRChat, here is my result.

So, turn it off and back on I guess? lol

[modest vapor]

Fits most of the debugging I've had with software over the past decade, sometimes that's all it takes

Glad you got it fixed

[wanton wind]

lol yeah - thanks!

[vernal storm]

For more complex worlds is it better to bake lighting in unity or in blender... Just wanted to hear your thoughts on this. Cheers

[next owl]

it's best to bake lighting in unity if you can so you can take advantage of light probes and such

if you can spare $30 or whatever it's on sale for now and you have an RTX GPU, the bakery plugin is very much worth the money

[fallow lark]

you basically have to use Unity as avatars won't receive any lighting if you do it in blender and basically your normal Maps won't work because there's no directional light Maps

[fallow lark]

or even just a Nvidia graphics card is a big help on bakery

[next owl]

yeah, either way it's a huge improvement over the native light baker

[vernal storm]

Cheers thanks for clarifying that as there is alot of different methods out there

[cerulean zealot]

How can I block light from reaching one room without effecting anything else? Basically I want a dark room while everything else is lit with a directional light. Everything I'm seeing on google is about making the entire scene dark.

[next owl]

if the room is enclosed so that the directional light can't reach the interior, it'll be dark. use walls with thickness, not just quads / planes, as those are only one-sided and won't shadow the room

[cerulean zealot]

The room does not become dark like that. It becomes shadowed, but still clearly visible.

[keen ivy]

Hello peeps. I'm having two issues that I can hopefully get some help with:

1. Both the inside of this building and the furniture have a lot of artifacts. Everything outside the building is totally fine. I've changed their size on in the lightmap atlas, increased the lightmap size, and did advanced filtering. Everything only marginally helps.
2. On the right side you can see the pictures look washed out. This doesn't seem to have anything to do with the intensity of the lights as they do that regardless. This sort of washed out effect doesn't appear until the bake applies the reflections (which none of the pictures have smoothness or metallic).

If I use reflection probes instead, the artifact problem is fixed but then there are absolutely no shadows.

[low karma]

I have a world that has a cave area, how can I make avatars in this cave dark so that emissions are easily visible. Avatars seem to be a constant brightness in my world and it looks kind of strange in this dark cave

[oak elbow]

Light probes @low karma

[low karma]

thanks!

[next owl]

generally speaking you want both lightmaps for baked diffuse illumination AND reflection probes for specular reflections. it's not an either/or thing.

the way the shading model works, you would definitely want some smoothness on the pictures... there's hardly a material out there that's 100% rough

this is of course assuming you're using the standard shader and not some toon shader

[keen ivy]

They're both in my scene. I can show the reflection/light probes (although I deleted the lightmap since it doesn't look good).

Would adding smoothness to the pictures solve that issue? I am using the standard shader.

[next owl]

it might help a little. 0% smoothness would make for very, very broad highlights

[keen ivy]

Actually what did it is turning off all the reflections for the pictures. They're canvases so they don't really need to reflect. Maybe not as realistic, but I want the most vibrant picture.

Thank you for getting me to think about the reflection probes in that regard.

[next owl]

np. if the reflections are that distracting it's possible that your skybox is too bright, or the values you're using for the base color of some of your materials are outside the PBR-safe range. worth checking out.

[tight marten]

does anyone know of a way that isn't super performance heavy to have caustics from water hit some walls/floors/ceilings for an aquarium in a world?

Any shader recommendations or ideas for this?

[keen ivy]

Thanks! Got any advice for the artifacts on lightmaps?

I do have warnings about overlapping UVs, but I set the model to generate lightmap UVs like it told me to.

[next owl]

it's hard to tell what's going on from your screenshot. if you're not already using Bakery I'd highly recommend it

[modest vapor]

Highly suggest you add this to your project https://github.com/oneVR/VRWorldToolkit/releases

It'll tell you of any glaring issue with your object/world

There might be objects with missing lightmap UVs

[clear mirage]

I know it's possible with layers to tell light sources not to affect objects on specific layers but if I remember correctly, vrchat likes to have everything on the same layer

maybe with some volume trickery

[keen ivy]

That's paid. 😓 I do hope to get it eventually but I can't at the moment. Was hoping for a native solution.

[keen ivy]

I'm using this, thanks! Already generated the lightmap UVs but it didn't help.

[modest vapor]

Might wanna try with adjusting the UV padding on the meshes that have artifacts

increasing it a tiny bit and then another bake test

[keen ivy]

I'll give it a shot, thank you!

[tight marten]

If you're making things in blender or scaling them, make sure their scale in blender is 1:1:1 on the XYZ when you export them, otherwise your UVs will have weird artifacting when baking in unity.

[low karma]

I'm still having this issue, I tried adding light probes but that didnt change anything (yes they have been rendered). I'm using realtime lights in my world with baked indirect lighting with occlusion probes enabled in bakery settings. If I add a dynamic sphere to my world and move it around it reacts properly to lighting conditions but If I build and test, my avatar is still constantly lit up no matter where I am. This shouldnt be an issue with my avatar because it works properly in other worlds. The only way I could get it to work is if I fully baked all my lighting in my world. My issue then is that the shadow quality is horrible with lots of artifacts especially in darkness and is not at all my desired look. Im able to get avatars to cast shadows, they just cant seem to recieve them... I've been working on this all day and have gotten no where so any help is greatly appreciated

if I add a dynamic sphere to my scene, it properly casts shadows on other dynamic objects but it just doesnt work with avatars for whatever reason

[keen ivy]

Thanks for the tip! I tried this because my scale wasn't applied, but it made very little difference. I don't really understand; the walls are simple polys but I'm getting these huge blocks of color.

[tight marten]

I assume they don't look like this in blender with the textures applied?

[keen ivy]

Nope, they also look fine when the lighting isn't baked.

Non-baked lighting

[tight marten]

I've had issues with a couch I made where the UVs on one cushion overlapped with another cushion's making them blend together when having a lightmap baked. I.e. they'll look fine with the same repeating texture, but when light data is then applied to them, they'll overlap and create effects like that sometimes. Maybe check the UV mapping on the walls and make sure that they aren't overlapping?

[keen ivy]

Oh they're all over each other. I had Unity generate lightmap UVs but perhaps it didn't work very well. I"ll try to go in and separate them in Blender first (I think that's what you're saying I should do).

[ionic torrent]

if after blender you still suffer the same issues, it may just be a unity problem, i would suggest checking the object is setup correctly by generating the UV's and making sure the object is also set to static, make sure inside the lighting settings that the global illumination is set to Baked indirect, maybe bump up the Resolution of the texels, this problem can also occur because of the outside map, try making the environment outside completely hidden and change the environment light source in lighting to color and just do black

one strange thing ive encountered also is that transparent objects like windows can cause issues, if after everything, you can try baking the lighting but make all the windows a solid material temporarily

[low karma]

Are you just not able to have shadows on avatars with realtime lights?

Im boutta give up fr

[glossy meteor]

you will have to tick the shadow option on the real time light

what rt light is this?

disclaimer: realtime lights will, especially when casting shadows, shred fps

[low karma]

Directional light

[glossy meteor]

that's a point light
also it has a bakery point light script on it, bakery flags real time lights to stop working

i think you may be a bit confused as what you are trying to achieve

[low karma]

oh oops I accidentally clicked the light behind it

should I remove the bakery script on my realtime lights?

I still am baking indirect lighting from them

[glossy meteor]

make them exist independently from another, on two game objects

[low karma]

what do you mean?

separate the unity light and bakery light components on different game objects?

[fallow lark]

yes

[low karma]

something like this?

what does that do?

[glossy meteor]

i explained that before

bakery stops real time lights from working on the same game object

[low karma]

sorry Im still learning this kind of stuff

[glossy meteor]

but when you separate them, it will work still

[fallow lark]

yes

[low karma]

will this allow avatars in my world to be darker in dark locations?

if I baked only indirect lighting

[fallow lark]

https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/SCSS/-/wikis/Other/Light-Baking

a handy text tutorial on Bakery

"Advanced Bakery Notes

Mixed Lighting
Mixed lighting incurs the same costs as realtime lighting for dynamic objects. Because the first directional light is free, you can combine high quality baked lighting with real-time shadows using Shadowmask mode. Combine a Unity directional light in Mixed mode with a Bakery directional light set to "Shadowmask and Indirect" and you'll create a shadowmasked directional light. With this, you can get the look of dynamic shadows while only needing to render a depth buffer and dynamic object shadows.
To take full advantage of this, enable Occlusion Probes in Bakery. Occlusion Probes store the shadowing of the directional light into the light probes. Unity will darken the main directional light when objects are in shadow according to the probe values, as though they were receiving shade from the lighting."

[low karma]

ah thank you

[glossy meteor]

you should look into light probes on its own, you should not mess with realtime and mixed lighting unless you really know what you are doing, they can mess up performance a lot

[fallow lark]

yeah I do agree you should stick to a baked only set up to start

[low karma]

Ive set up light probes but they didnt affect avatars lightings at all

[fallow lark]

question did you test on Avatar as using the standard Shader

[low karma]

No but Ive used this avatar in other worlds where it worked fine

[fallow lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgUJccjWRU

[low karma]

when I bake the lighting in this world, the shadows look horribly low resolution. I tried to figure out why for a long time but i just ended up using real time

[fallow lark]

you didn't set the lightmap resolution terribly High likely

[low karma]

i had the max resolution at 4096

[fallow lark]

and do not use real-time Shadows for static objects that'll murder your performance

[fallow lark]

that is not the setting that sets how high resolution the Shadows are

[low karma]

how can I make the shadow resolution higher?

[fallow lark]

that would be the Texel density settings

I'd recommend you read the text link or watch the video tutorial I linked from beginning to end

[low karma]

oh I had that at 5, but even at 20 it looked pretty bad and took nearly and hour to render

[fallow lark]

what were you using to do the baking

[low karma]

bakery

[fallow lark]

do you have a Nvidia graphic card

[low karma]

yes GTX 1080

[fallow lark]

weird

[glossy meteor]

can you show your settings?

[fallow lark]

yeah that would help a bunch

[glossy meteor]

even with my 1060 back then i baked only a few minutes

[low karma]

it only takes a few minutes with texels at 5

[glossy meteor]

use optix as denoiser

[low karma]

which one?

[glossy meteor]

uncheck terrain optimisation

that often slows stuff down like heck

[low karma]

okay

[glossy meteor]

image denoise is a cpu denoiser, it can be fairly slow

do the bakery hardware check

tile size at 512 is really low for your gpu, you can do 4k i am sure, it's a bit faster that way

[low karma]

bakery hardware check?

[glossy meteor]

bakery -> utilities -> detect

[glossy meteor]

yea, set optix 5 then

[low karma]

yep

[glossy meteor]

you can try using rtx mode too, they patched the capability in for 10xx cards, it may benefit your speed or not, gotta experiment with that

[low karma]

okay Ill watch the bakery video/manual and see if I can make baked lighting work with this world, cus thats the only way I can get this damn avatar lighting to work

[glossy meteor]

set up light probes properly, switch to full bake mode, not just indirect, it should work after baking with L1

[low karma]

@glossy meteor I used the settings you told me and the shadows look much better now, albeit it took 70 minutes for texels at 20

one more question: I have grass in my world and obviously the baked lighting isnt going to bake on the grass so I duplicated the directional light and set it to only affect players and the grass layer but now I get something like this

would it be wise to add the default layer onto that duplicated directional light so that the grass has shadows or is there a more optimized way to do it

[glossy meteor]

don't use rt lights if you don't know why you use them, prefer using light probes for the grass

grass can be baked however usually, depends how the shader works

[low karma]

oh how can I use light probes for the grass? I already have htem setup but its not doing anything

[low karma]

actually i found the terrain is not set to static, im going to try to bake it again

ok I did a quick render with low texels and it actually does bake the lighting on the grass, tested it in vrchat and avatars actually respond to lighting conditions, and it runs much better. Thanks guys ive been working on this the entire day

[tight marten]

Sorry for the delayed response. Yeah sometimes unity's generate lightmap UVs doesn't work well (as it didn't in my case) and so you have to go in and do it yourself on some objects. I'm still fairly new to all this to be honest, but from my experience so far this can be a potential issue.

[rustic cloud]

Hi, I'm following a tutorial just to get into the swing of world creation and I'm in a bit of a weird situation. I'm setting up light probes, but the point are just really big in the view and it's making it hard to set them up. In the tutorial I'm following the points on his are way smaller than mine are, and I was wondering if anyone knew how to reduce their size? (see picture for reference)

[fallow lark]

https://docs.unity3d.com/uploads/Main/GizmosMenu.png change 3D icon size in the Gizmo tab

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/GizmosMenu.html

[rustic cloud]

Thank you so much! I'm still a bit new to Unity so I don't know a lot about sub menus etc.

[fallow lark]

no biggie and you definitely picked a good like exercise to learn baking

[ripe hemlock]

is it worth making the the world layout and materials in blender then exporting to unity? Or would I be better suited learning unity with its tools and whatnot, then making my world there and importing just objects from blender?

[fallow lark]

I guess would kind of depend on what you're trying to make?

[ripe hemlock]

Just making a little nice apartment

With loft, city view, jaccuzi

[fallow lark]

either way would work okay

[gray maple]

Yo, im running some tests, stresstesting mostly

And it seems bakery keeps resetting values
As if it doesnt want to

Such as setting AO intensity to 1
Yet after the bake
There is no AO, and the setting has reverted itself back to 0

[ionic torrent]

hey there i know im late but just in case you havent gotten that one sorted, inside the bakery tab at the top you can save your bakery settings as default, should stop them moving around 🙂

[gray maple]

Will check it out tomorrow!

[ionic torrent]

😎

[stark raft]

Hello. I was following a video guide on creating your first vrchat world, and was at the point of lighting. They went with baked lighting and it looked amazing. I followed every single step, didn't miss anything, and triple checked the settings, but when I generated/baked the lighting, all my objects (walls floors etc) became a bit transparent, as I can see the grid through them and other walls, and the lighting didn't actually seem to bake or work, as nothing changed, and it definitely did not look like theirs did. I am on SDK3, if it helps. May I please get help with this?

[oak elbow]

Try to do "Generate Lightmap UVs" on your meshes

[stark raft]

I don't have any custom meshes. I just use 3D Object > Cube

[oak elbow]

Pretty sure the cube UVs overlap in unity.

[short cipher]

Does anyone knows how the glasses with liquid in it pickups work on vrchat ?

[oak elbow]

Each face of the Cube in unity overlap since they're square UVs. Try to do the lightmap UVs.

Wait...

It should automatically...

[green vault]

its a shader where the worldspace rotation is basically used to keep the liquid up right, i can’t remember the exact terminology. shader properties get fuzzy after awhile

id ask #shaders

[oak elbow]

Can you post a picture of the cubes on the scene in the inspector? As well as lighting setup?

[short cipher]

Thanks

[stark raft]

I don't have the project anymore, I gave up and deleted it. Sorry. I don't think I have the talent for fancy baked lighting, I'll just stick to normal lights and such x.x

[next owl]

you really want to bake lighting if at all possible. realtime lights are a huge performance hit

[glossy meteor]

you cannot expect to start baking lights and be amazing, game dev is not easy (there are many parts you gotta learn/understand for it), you should hang in there and improve, real time lights have a huge performance impact, as toadstorm said

[molten kestrel]

Just hopped in to ask how necessary baked lighting is for PC worlds and there's already a discussion.
I'm hopefully releasing a world into Labs today and it's only possible because I have someone else for lighting with Bakery.
I could not get baked lighting to behave and I don't have a NVidia card for Bakery.
If I make another world it will probably have to use real-time lighting as I'm unlikely to get a helper next time.

[green vault]

what was stopping you from baking before?

[molten kestrel]

I just couldn't get things to bake properly. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I followed the popular tutorial and it turned out badly.

[green vault]

there are many tutorials

i highly suggest trying again on youre own, realtime lighting is a very tall order on thr render pipeline

[molten kestrel]

Realistically I'll make an outdoor world next time and rely on a single directional light for sunlight/moonlight

[green vault]

hmmm, ok, thats still going to be a lot of calls being made since its a 1d light source being projected on everything

[oak elbow]

I basically didn't follow any tutorials in my world...

I just tested out what was the least intensive memory-side while still looking good.

The best tip for baked lighting is: test things. If it bakes fastish, looks good, doesn't take too much size... everything's well.

[next owl]

baking involves a lot of steps but if you're not getting good results usually the culprit is bad lightmap uvs, forgetting to flag things as "static", or simply having materials with albedo or emission values well outside the PBR safe range

[short cipher]

Anyone knows why I can see the sky in smooth metals walls even tough I'm indoor ?

And how to fix it

[next owl]

it's reflecting your skybox because you probably haven't baked reflection probes yet

place reflection probes in your rooms, then bake them

make sure the geometry to reflect is set as static

[short cipher]

How do I place reflection probes ?

and the metallic thing is a door so it's probably gonna move

[next owl]

the metallic object moving is fine, it's not reflecting itself. start by placing a reflection probe in the middle of each room, then bake them.

you can get more specific with placing them later if you need to. depends on the complexity of your environment.

[short cipher]

I'm gonna try to do so thanks again man !

[peak nimbus]

does setting the rendering path to deferred not work?
looks fine in unity but not in vrchat

[glossy meteor]

vrchat only supports forward

[peak nimbus]

ah darn, no way to do screen space reflections then

[next owl]

screenspace reflections would melt your brain in VR, there's no good way to get it to converge in stereo at the moment

[odd smelt]

Newbie question,

[wet void]

I'm trying to get the best lighting settings for my world without taking up too much space, but nothing is working...
Any advice?

[north ridge]

what have you tried?

id suggest baking and then compressing the lightmaps

[robust warren]

Using the baked Indirect GPU lightmapper. Using the generate new lightmap uvs on the model used to make the world, and I'm getting these kind of errors. any ideas?

[uncut hawk]

how can i stop this lens flare from stretching and skewing when i try to rotate it to match my light bar

[glossy meteor]

likely related to the parent's transform values being different, skewing it

[uncut hawk]

i tried removing from parent and fxing scale and readding it but still does it

[robust warren]

I just said screw it and got bakery. Works like a charm

[molten kestrel]

Unfortunately Bakery is only compatible with Nvidia cards

[languid tulip]

Just made a basic 1-minute lighting tutorial in the style of Ian Hubert's Lazy Tutorials, covers post-processing & using the lightmapper c:
https://youtu.be/NOv31HSqs6U

[fallow lark]

that covers alot of ground in 1 minutes good job

[tight marten]

Planning on creating a quest version of the world I'm making and I was wondering if anyone knew the best way for my to get my lightmaps (using bakery) on quest. I don't think I'll be able to use the bakery shaders to bake the lights since they aren't supported on quest, so is where a way for me to use my current lightmaps on quest?

[fallow lark]

you don't need to use Bakery Shaders to use Bakery light map so any Quest compatible Shader that can render light Maps will render your bakery light Maps

[tight marten]

I would have to use bakery shaders for my emissive materials if I wanted to re-bake the lighting for quest. But I was curious if there was a way for me to convert the lightmaps from PC to quest so that I can avoid re-baking entirely.

[fallow lark]

you should be able to use the exact same lightmap between Quest and PC as what shade are used to render it has no bearing on the light map itself

[tight marten]

Cool, thanks!

[fallow lark]

hope your quest build goes okay

[uncut hawk]

Really getting my lighting dialed in now. https://youtu.be/D7odBdE8Z3Y

[odd smelt]

How to solve the weird lightning to get a smoother one

[green vault]

does the model have generated lightmap uvs?

i would make your texal value in tour lighting settings higher if so

[clear mirage]

looks great, ship it

[odd smelt]

Baked map, yes

[green vault]

but the model in your assets folder, or is this probuilderes?

[odd smelt]

Assets folder, built by blender

[green vault]

check if the model has a “uv1” (secondary uv map)

if it does, make sure its unpacked, blender has a lightmap unpacker, i suggest setting the res of the unpack to 2048, and padding to 3 and that usually gets the job done

[odd smelt]

This already in unity stage

[green vault]

save model and then rebake model in unity (making sure it updated in unity)

[odd smelt]

The lighting is from surface that can illuminate itself

[green vault]

can you describe further what you mean by that?

[odd smelt]

The model exported from blender has no lighting

In unity I reserved some materials served as purpose of ceiling lights, which have them self-illuminated

[green vault]

right, but when you bake. they bake the emissions from thos materials onto another texture on the uv2 layer

[odd smelt]

I will check it now

Only got primary map seemed

[green vault]

in unity, you can click on the model file in the assets folder, and in the inspector, theres a generate lightmap uvs option in the first model tab and at the bottom

[odd smelt]

Yes it generated

[green vault]

did the lighting change at all or was it already ticked on?

[odd smelt]

The main issue is the lighting is weird

[green vault]

right but did anything change

[odd smelt]

Already ticked on anyway

[green vault]

cus your next thing to check after is your texal size and you actual lightmaps

are you using bakery or default lightmapping?

[odd smelt]

Bakery

[green vault]

i would set your min and max res to 4096, and set direct samples to max. and make the texal number higher (i can’t remember what the texals are called in bakery right now)

[odd smelt]

But I might make it quest compatible, will that setting ok?

[green vault]

yes

what does your bakery window look like right now?

[green vault]

your texals definately need to be higher, its not utilizing the whole map

[keen ivy]

I'm at my wits end. I re-UV mapped everything and it made very slight improvement, upped my texels and maybe it's an improvement? I'm really hoping that solution isn't "buy a $60 addon" but I'm about to use real-time lighting for this building. TTwTT

[keen ivy]

I'd been having this problem before and took a break. Also scaling has made no difference.

[modest vapor]

Is this in your project ? https://github.com/oneVR/VRWorldToolkit/releases

[next owl]

just to be clear... you are rebuilding the secondary UV set, right? not the primary one?

[keen ivy]

Yes it is

[keen ivy]

I'm sorry I don't know what that means.

[modest vapor]

What is the toolkit showing you ?

[next owl]

okay, so, there are two uv sets for any model. one of them, the primary uv set, is what your materials are typically going to use to look up textures. the secondary uv set, i dunno what it's called in blender, is not always there by default. unity generates it for you if your mesh doesn't have one. this set is what the lightmap is baked to.

lightmap uvs generally need a lot more padding than regular uv maps.

[odd smelt]

Maybe I had no light source so it is weird? I will try out

[keen ivy]

Only info messages.

[keen ivy]

Wow I had no idea. I'll look up how to generate/access this map for Blender. I hope it works, thanks!

[next owl]

once you make the adjustment, make sure to tell unity not to automatically generate lightmap UVs, as this will overwrite what you made. and you'll need to rebake lighting again.

[modest vapor]

Nothing in the whole lightmapping section ?

Nothing in the console ?

[keen ivy]

Not in the lightmapping section but in the console it talks about overlapping UVs. I'm guessing these are the lightmap UVs that Unity generated for me.

So I'm going to try and make my own.

[modest vapor]

You can just try and adjust padding from the generated ones

[next owl]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/ProgressiveLightmapper-UVOverlap.html

in addition to all this, i know you don't want to spend money but if you plan on continuing to build environments in unity, bakery is absolutely worth the $60

[keen ivy]

It definitely looks like it, I just can't at the moment. I do plan to maybe next time I get paid, but I was hoping to put this out in less than a month. 💦

[keen ivy]

I upped the padding on the generated UV maps and there was marked improvement, thank you! I'm not getting errors for overlapping maps anymore but I still have some annoying artifacts. Is there anything else I could do? (Also, not as pressing, why would these walls be so dark even though there are clearly lights there. Just wondering.)

[odd smelt]

I feel these lights are weird, the meeting room use area light so is fine, should corridor like this also doing so?

[green vault]

can we see your lighting settings?

[green vault]

set lightmap size to 4096

you can change size after if needed

[odd smelt]

Changed to 4096 but the lighting still not balanced

Not like something you will see in office corridor

[green vault]

you rebaked?

[simple fox]

Tbh spot lights would prob be a better choice there vs points for that kind of setup. More natural/correct. Point shines light on all sides which isn't accurate or needed for something like a ceiling can light. Changing to spots might also fix the issue you're facing, while that's not the root cause, simply directing light only to where it should be in a more natural way may lessen or bypass that issue.

[green vault]

mercs right, youre using cuffed lights so spot lights would make more sence indeed

[modest vapor]

Walls could be dark due to the material/color choices

[modest vapor]

You can bump the direct sample to 512, set the bounces to 5 and increase lightmaps padding to 4, that will increase bake time by a lot but worth it for quality

[next owl]

to expand on what ruuubick is saying, check to make sure your materials are PBR safe. there's a viewport shading mode called "validate albedo" that will show you if your material base colors are too dark or too light. if they're outside the safe range for non-metallic materials, you'll get little to no illumination and no bounce light in the GI bake

[fallow lark]

like basically you never want to use a pure black or a pure white on a PBR texture because you can't make a like a 256 White any lighter so that's not going to work if you point a light at it

[next owl]

it's not even just pure black or pure white... for most non-metallic materials the safe range is sRGB 50-240 or so.

[fallow lark]

good to know the proper range

[keen ivy]

Oh interesting, thanks for the explanation! I ran a check and if I'm reading this correctly it's telling me that my windows and pictures are what's not in the safe range. Could the windows be affecting the rest of the lighting inside?

Again I'm more concerned about getting those last artifacts out, but if I can fix this too that's cool.

[next owl]

I don't think your windows are at fault there. They're transparent anyways. Seems like most of your materials are fine in this sense, so that's not the problem.

[odd smelt]

It doesn’t solve, what I want the effect more is a standard background-ish lighting

And I might need to use in quest so

[modest vapor]

@calm forge Yo, small question, why is "receive casted shadows" 0 by default on realistic

[keen ivy]

Omg I used Enlighten to bake and it fixed everything. TToTT Unity calls it "deprecated" so I didn't even try.

[fallow lark]

deprecated just means they're not doing any more work on it not that it's going to break if you tried using it

[keen ivy]

Yeah, figured I shouldn't use something that isn't gonna be updated anymore, but VRC is 2019 anyway so might as well.

Looks beautiful, so happy! Thanks Toadsotrm and Ruubick for trying to help me out.

[fallow lark]

glad you got it figured out

[odd smelt]

Still struggle here

[glossy meteor]

deprecated is not even the right term to use here by unity hah.. they had to bring it back cus they failed to bring a realtime gi replacement in time..

deprecated in software usually means it will break next major update but there is a replacement.. which was not the case so yea

[calm forge]

The plan was to not have singular options change many. I also know that all the options can be complicated so we've been working on a stacking preset system to simplify the creation of materials while still maintaining depth for people who want it.

[modest vapor]

That looks fucking awesome

[keen ivy]

They lost the rights to Enlighten which I guess is the only reason they're removing it. But they've relied on it and didn't come up with a replacement in time.

[mint cipher]

how do u add glow /emission glow?

[modest vapor]

Emission is on the material, bloom is post processing

[rotund ibex]

https://alexios.pony.cx/2pgmLN.jpg

Not sure why this is happening. Heavy light leaking.

[modest vapor]

Are your meshes merged or just snapped ?

[rotund ibex]

?

In blender they're merged.

https://alexios.pony.cx/4VC3aM.jpg

[quartz rover]

Does lighting Fog work on quest?

[modest vapor]

The vertices, not the objects

[rotund ibex]

OKay what do you mean by snapped?

I have no doubles

[modest vapor]

I don't know how light could possibly leak if you have a tight mesh then

that's usually the cause of that in unity

[simple fox]

Yes. Fog is quite cheap and works on quest just fine. Useful for hiding a narrow far clip on quest.

[quartz rover]

Thanks!

[molten kestrel]

Looks like I'm incapable of even the simplest bakes

Realtime for comparison:

'generate lightmap UVs' was unchecked for some reason - now it looks okay

[sullen solar]

How can I fix the unseemless lighting?

the light source in question:

[sullen solar]

oh my god thank you, ive been working like this for months

[leaden cave]

Are the colors in the editor accurate to what's in VR? I can't tell if my headset's screen is just really really bad, or if there's something wrong with the tone mapping once it goes through SteamVR (Godot 3 has this issue with render options).

Wait, nevermind, it's the same (and the colors in the headset are bad), I took a screen shot of my screen, with VRC's camera, and a screenshot through SteamVR and they all the look the same.

The actual problem is the maximum shadow distance

[twilit lily]

might be the display of the HMD. some are LCD and are more washed out, some are OLED so more saturated

[trim tusk]

Anyone have any idea as how you would light up objects orbiting a sun for instance?

Right now all I have is directional by that looks abit scuffed.

[leaden cave]

Yeah, I'm pretty convinced it's a really cheap TN panel, it's only saving grace is that it's in a VR headset...

The bigger issue was the shadow distance though, that made the scene look drastically different.

[twilit lily]

did you bake the lights?

[sullen solar]

Can someone help me with light baking? My editor freezes as soon as the bake starts and I have to restart it using task manager every time

NVM, the issue was that my lightmap size was too high [ 4096 > 1024 ]

[molten kestrel]

I made a world extension in a separate scene (the above one). I can copy everything over with open scene additive, but I lose the lightmaps.
Can I either:
A) Copy the lightmaps over
B) Only bake the top area after copying the assets over

[molten kestrel]

I should add that the original scene was done with Bakery, which is incompatible with my graphics card.

I can't rebake the original, which is why I had the new area in a separate scene.

[sullen solar]

Can someone help me create fake volumetric lighting cones with unity?

i need something like this, kind of how they did it in source games like half life 2

with models

the cones would go on those lights

[simple fox]

https://github.com/Xiexe/XSVolumetrics

[sullen solar]

seems nice thanks

[summer jay]

Fix black cat lighting

It’s shit

[next owl]

no u

[sullen solar]

Can someone help me with post processing? When I test in the game i can see it but not when im actually playing in VRC

[fallow lark]

https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/SCSS/-/wikis/Other/Post-Processing

a tutorial on vrchat post processing

[mint cipher]

It still isn't working, I don't understand

[trim tusk]

@sullen solar have you got it on the right layer?

Got to Post-process Layer

In your camera

Check what Layer it is on.

[mint cipher]

I have a problem as well where it isn't even showing up in unity

[glossy meteor]

multi scenes don't really work in vrc, it will only upload one
if you cannot use bakery at all then just use the built-in gpu lightmapper

are your lightmaps still existing? the other bake may have deleted them if they were in the same folder

[teal star]

How does one remove a certain layer (or set of objects, I'm fine if it's a manual process) from being affected by Post Processing?

[molten kestrel]

The original scene was done with bakery and I don't want to redo it with Unity's built-in renderer.

[formal spindle]

so awhile back I would have light leak from top level to bottom. I was using polybuilder then and had everything snap so it exactly fit, though it still leaked. Now trying it in blender and was wondering if its okay to have different meshes for floors and walls, and will that cause lighting leakage in unity. or should my floors just be random triangles that are apart of wall mesh.

first seperate and second is one mesh

[twilit lily]

i still exist btw :3

[molten kestrel]

I wanted to do it myself, but I think I will be in need of your services once again 🙇‍♂️

[twilit lily]

fair enough

just shoot me the project and ill bake it

[manic tree]

I’m getting a warning saying that I need to bake my lights, else they’ll function as real-time lights in game. Does anyone know where a bake lights button is?

[fallow lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgUJccjWRU

[manic tree]

Thanks

[leaden cave]

I did, but only on the main area of the world. The clouds, where the shadows are a problem, would be a PIA to unwrap with the way I made them. I just turned down the exposure and up'd the gamma, looks fine enough at lower graphics settings now.

[sullen solar]

What would the most effective way be to isolate the red lighting from the white lighting in the other rooms?

[twilit lily]

a wall

[normal idol]

I was noticing that my avatar's normal and smoothness maps show up really nicely in other worlds but they don't in mine even though I have baked reflection probes and light probes, object reflections look fine and the avatar is being lit properly relative to the light sources, there's just no shine or texture like there is in other worlds. What might be causing this?

I'm using Bakery with a combination of mostly point lights and emissive materials with the occasional single realtime light.

[jade shadow]

IIRC bakery has their own reflection probes you'll need to use instead of the unity default ones?

[twilit lily]

nope bakery uses the default ones afaik

[jade shadow]

Oh! You'll have to bake reflections through bakery

[glossy meteor]

no, bakery just runs them all at once

ensure you bake reflection after baking though

[normal idol]

Yup, did all that, the environment reflections look like they should so unless there's some unique setting for avatar reflections, I don't think it's that. It may be more related to how the world is lit moreso than a technical issue so I guess I'm just looking to see what has worked for other people in getting avatar features to pop. The world is a bit on the darker side which could effect things but it also has areas that are pretty well lit. I also use a lot of colored lighting so maybe that is dulling things? I feel like I would still be able to see something but when I look in a mirror it's like the model has no normal map at all when it's really clear in other worlds.

It's a night club so I can't really afford to make it super bright, at least not everywhere but I have to imagine there's a way to do that without making everything look super flat.

[glossy meteor]

do you have enough light probes?

[normal idol]

Yeah, I think so. I use a plugin called autoprobe that does a pretty good job. I can see the light cast from the point lights and emissive surfaces quite clearly on the avatar, it's just flat. I wonder if the light is too diffuse which is minimizing the specularity. Not sure what to do about that with an emissive surface.

[simple fox]

Do you have a directional light in your scene?

[normal idol]

Yes but it's quite dim. I kind of like things dark outside the various pockets of colored lights I have but maybe a directional light is important for specularity? It does tend to be the outdoor worlds that create the most noticeable shine.

[glossy meteor]

what's your bakery directional mode?

[normal idol]

@glossy meteor I haven't set a directional mode so none. What do you recommend? This needs to be Quest-accessible so the lightmaps can't be too huge.

[glossy meteor]

you can have different modes for desktop and quest
try dominant direction

[normal idol]

I see, would that require re-baking when I switched platforms or is there a way to keep them separate? I will try that, thanks!

[normal idol]

example of the difference. I get that if you have a strongly colored light that it won't have a pure white highlight like that but the whole thing just looks flatter.

Apologies for the low resolution, using the Quest photo camera.

Maybe the color is just too saturated? I tried switching the directional mode to dominant direction and it added another 9 MB to the world which is acceptable but that picture is taken with dominant direction and I'm not noticing much of a difference.

[glossy meteor]

is this both quest?

not entirely sure what you expect visually, the first has a more vibrant looking environment/lighting, hard to tell from a small close-up screenshot

[normal idol]

Yeah, both Quest. I did some experimenting with the avatar in Unity and it really seemed to be affected by the directional light, with a point light never producing specular highlights so maybe I have to bump that up more? I'm just trying to make things shiny but not excessively bright (at least not everywhere, that room is too bright but I figured it would be the best place to try and get specular highlights. When I make the directional light a strong pink like in the image, it looks like I would want it to look but I don't want it to be bright pink everywhere.

[glossy meteor]

is your directional baked?

[normal idol]

No, realtime.

[glossy meteor]

why is that?

[normal idol]

At least in that image it is, I'd have to check in the actual world. It has very little directional light at all and might be baked. But the problem with using a strong directional light is it's going to make the entire world that color when I would prefer to get lighting from my emissive surfaces and lights placed around the world rather that having a high level of ambient brightness.

But emissive surfaces don't seem to produce shine and I'm not sure if they can.

Same with point lights, they don't seem to make things shiny regardless of intensity.

Maybe I should use more spotlights? Area lights? I'm not sure.

Okay, it looks like I got rid of the directional light entirely and so I added one in. As expected, at full power it made everything look flat and bad but if I dial it down to the point where things aren't too bright, I don't think it's going to do anything.

[simple fox]

A directional light is required if you want specular that isn't faked. That's why I asked if you had a directional light. For avatars to look good you need directional lighting, and reflection probes.

You can simply adjust the culling layers so your directional light only shows on the player and mirror reflection layer which will only put lighting on the player and not the world.

[green vault]

Anyone have difficulty getting realtimeGI to stick on the quest build? unity has been giving me a difficult time just keeping it in the unity editor but even then, it appears RTGI keeps shutting off on load for quest

[mint cipher]

hello friends, I have a question, I have a tests world, I have baked lightmap and realtime GI the lightprobes also baked, but when I enter play mode the light probes turn black, any solution to that? It never happened to me, the truth is I'm dismayed.

[twilit lily]

please just bake the lights

quest is not meant to handle realtime

[green vault]

i ment precomputated

[twilit lily]

does quest even support that?

[green vault]

yep

[twilit lily]

huh

i never experimented with precomputed realtime GI

[green vault]

ive done it a few times, just been getting weird unity sperts with, i have to make an editor script to keep it on for the pc side actually

[twilit lily]

i see

[green vault]

not sure what was goin on

[twilit lily]

i just use bakery and call it a day

[green vault]

im a lighting nerd but ive never had unity just deside to ignore it in 2019 unity

[twilit lily]

i see

[green vault]

was hoping someone mightve known

[twilit lily]

got any docs for precomputed realtime by any chance? might need that for an project of mine which currently only works either with SH or realtime only

and SH is barely because of its limitations

[green vault]

https://catlikecoding.com/unity/tutorials/scriptable-render-pipeline/global-illumination/ this is the default thing i send to people when asked, but it might not answer everything

[twilit lily]

ahh gotcha, thanks a lot

[green vault]

http://www.csc.villanova.edu/~ekim/classes/CSC3150S17/tutorial/unity_tutorial8.pdf

[normal idol]

That is great info, hadn't even considered lights that only impact avatars. Thanks for the help! 🙌

[orchid nymph]

is it common for quest builds to be much brighter than pc? My pc build has a darker more ambient quality lighting setup but as soon as i build for quest the lightmaps become instantly 10x brighter, i'll attach an image if anyone has any suggestions

PC Build:

Quest Build:

No artifacts on my lightmaps which is good, but super bright anyone got any clues?

[twilit lily]

missing post processing most likely

[orchid nymph]

I have post processing in my project, unless it needs to be changed for quest or something

maybe it needs to be reimported? or something like that

Just noticed that the VRWorldToolkit doesn't allow me to setup Post processing on the quest build, the option is greyed out. That is how I set it up for my pc build

[supple harness]

The post process is not in the quest version, and it will not work there. Customize the lighting by adding only effects to it in the pc version

[glossy meteor]

also no hdr on lightmaps for quest

[orchid nymph]

so basically rebake my lighting with all lighting at a fraction of its intensity and a darker color? or is there a more convenient way to achieve the same look

[mint cipher]

Do you guys know why the world is giving off this weird reflection?

[rich ocean]

anyone know why there are these pixely gradients here on the diagonal? my samples are 10K and the resolution is 52 tx

all baked indoor lighting

[orchid nymph]

i would check your reflection probe settings

[rich ocean]

small update: i got it to look better by setting the denoise to optix

in the lightmap settings

[eager hemlock]

Anyone know why there is is very dark spot?

Even when I remove the couch its still there

Happens when I bake it and didn't happen before

[twilit lily]

generate uv lightmap enabled?

maybe there is an object there?

[lean dome]

does someone have a file for fairy lights? i sadly cant find any free ones

[vernal storm]

Just a quick workflow question , does bakery require uv maps to have islands non overlapping , or can I use my trim sheet uv map? If not are you guys runing out multi uv sets one for bakery light maper and one for trims . Or is bakery smart enough to generate its own and doesn't care how i uv an object and i have just been over complicating it

[glossy meteor]

bakery uses your second set, in unity they are called lightmap uvs

they may not overlap

[vernal storm]

so If I check the generate lightmap uvs in the object in unity , doesn't unity generate these , or is it still picking up my uvs from blender and converting them

[glossy meteor]

if you tick that, unity will generate them and use that, they can yield suboptimal results sometimes

[fallow lark]

also cool that you're doing trim sheets D34DP1X3L

[vernal storm]

ahhhh ok , so that makes sense why when i cleaned up all my uv's nothing changed in lightmap errors , sounds likea second set of uvs is the way to go then , one packed for lightmaps one for trims, then im guessing I wont need to check that lightmap box then as it will be picking up the ones i make

[fallow lark]

yeah you only click on that check box if you don't have your own provided lightmap uvs

[vernal storm]

cheers , I'll give that a go

[white nexus]

https://www.patreon.com/posts/32030551

not mine but seems like this is the one everyone uses. There's a free version and full version is $1

[opaque garnet]

would anyone know why my shadows are disconnected like this? I tried adjusting the biases on the light but that didn't fix it.

[odd smelt]

Light probe setup done, but no shadow 😦

[lean dome]

thank you so much~!

[twilit lily]

bake lights 👀

[opaque garnet]

that's a realtime light.

[twilit lily]

thats why, bake it and you will have better looking and better performing lighting

[candid dagger]

should i do lighting and texturing in unity or blender?

[pure widget]

im not an expert or anything, but ive found texture optimizing using blender/image editing program to be easier because you can make a texture atlas in your image editing program, and correct the uv maps in blender to match

lighting should definitely happen in unity but you can make the physicality of the light in blender, ie make a table lamp in blender, import to unity and put a point light in it

[next owl]

texturing should happen in a combination of blender and some dedicated app for texture generation... substance, photoshop, 3dcoat, etc

UV layout happens in blender, as does any necessary material assignments, then you export that to your painting application. then import to unity when you're done.

[odd smelt]

The characters did not show shadow, checked light probe in the world seemed fine (only having baked light)

[strong solar]

how can i fix this lighting 🤔

[glossy meteor]

you should consider baking your lighting

[tame salmon]

Anyone know what causes this weird smearing when I bake the lighting?

[vernal storm]

How are you baking your lighting ? are you using unity or bakery? also have you made sure your uv sets are zero to 1 if your using your own uv's if not do you have generate lightmap uvs checked on your models

[tame salmon]

I don't have bakery so it's just unity. I'm not using my own uv's for the lightmap and generate lightmap uv's is checked

[next owl]

you could try increasing the padding on the lightmap

[opaque garnet]

can I bake the specular reflections? I want the gold to look shiny like it does with the realtime lights, but when it's baked. if that makes sense. is this possible?

[next owl]

one workaround is to place an emissive object where the light is, and just leave it enabled only for the reflection probe bake. it's not exactly the same as a specular highlight but it'll help add some shine

[opaque garnet]

actually all of the lights are positioned next to emissive materials

[next owl]

how bright are those emissive materials compared to your light intensities? could try cranking the emission strength temporarily for the bake?

[fallow lark]

there's also some shaders that have baked specular highlight options https://twitter.com/orels1_/status/1493026541256773634?s=20&t=RUMQSH1ukLOAKE9m7uUT3A

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[opaque garnet]

@fallow lark thanks

[fallow lark]

and question is your reflection probes rendering correctly as you put it in the middle of a mesh

[opaque garnet]

i thought it was, but maybe not. i'll check it

[rocky mauve]

greetings all. what terms do i search to find out how to get world point lights (sdk3) to affect avatars? this is whitelisted right? i get that its a threat to optimization, but i want to know how to do it for exceptional cases. thanks in advance.

[fallow lark]

you would probably want to do baked lighting with light probes for the avatars as reeltime lights are kind of expensive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgUJccjWRU

[rocky mauve]

i want to know how to make point lights affect avatars. i know how to bake environment lighting

it would be a single nonstatic point light with limited range

[modest vapor]

Any realtime light will

[fallow lark]

still would be making your avatars twice as expensive "Point Light. This adds 1 pass to everything within its radius, and renders everything it touches again." https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/SCSS/-/wikis/Other/Light-Baking

[rocky mauve]

i get that its not best practice, i want to know how to do it

[modest vapor]

[rocky mauve]

the whole world would be well below 1k poly and the light would have about a radius of 5 meter

the whole point of the world design is about having a pick up single point light that affects avatars

it doesnt work when i try using realtime lights with default settings aside from intensity. it shows on world objects but not avatars. is it a layer thing?

[simple fox]

Literally just a light set to realtime will affect players assuming you don't change the layer mask.

Would be better tbh to use global illumination and emissive materials vs a ton of realtime point lights.

[rocky mauve]

i use one light one point light

the whole point is to have a pickup with a point light on it, just the one. not even a directional light

the world is otherwise an empty plain and skybox.

im stumped as to why i cant get the point light to behave with avatars the way everyone expects it to. i do try with default realtime lights but i dont see it on the avatars, just the world objects. thats why im bothering to ask here.

[fallow lark]

question what shaders are on your avatar as your testing with

[rocky mauve]

im going to try different avatars, thats a good point

[fallow lark]

try something with the standard Shader for the avatar

because who knows what the heck a toon Shader is doing

[rocky mauve]

ill look into the avatar side. im making an example world of my problem to reproduce what im talking about with as many defaults as possible. if i figure out what im doing wrong ill report back. otherwise ill be asking again. thanks everybody

[rocky mauve]

yep its the avatars

its so obvious to me in retrospect. derp. thank you.

[fallow lark]

glad to be of help

[rocky mauve]

they didnt look like toon shaders or anything but, sure enough

it kinda takes the fun out of the thing i wanted to do if you cant reliably light avatars

[twilit lily]

Bakery -> SH mode
just make sure to not have more than one light being affected by it, or you will end up with weird curved lights

[quasi hedge]

I'd start with a dominant direction bake and then move to SH if it's too approximate for your needs! SH will be slower + will add to your build size.

[twilit lily]

but looks best

[opaque garnet]

I don't have Bakery; does it let you choose which objects you want specular highlights on and which you don't?

[opaque garnet]

is it bad on performance to use mixed lighting?

[next owl]

generally speaking, yes. the more lights you have that aren't fully baked, the more performance will suffer.

[glossy meteor]

mixed lighting has the bad of both worlds
real time calculation AND light map calculations

[worn salmon]

Im setting up some lights for baking and they all have the same settings but some don't show any glow at all. Know what i'm doing wrong

[next owl]

the mode on that light in the inspector is set to realtime

your lights need to be set to baked mode, and the geometry needs to be lightmap static

[worn salmon]

alrighty thank you i missed that part

[worn salmon]

unfortunatly now none of them show after baking

[next owl]

so are you not getting illumination of any kind after the bake? or you just aren't getting visible glow from the light sources themselves?

[worn salmon]

no visible glow from the lights

i also cannot generate lighting anymore

[worn salmon]

im trying to follow a tutorial but what i have doesn't work compared to the video. In multiple place it just behaves differently

is there a limit to how many lights can be in a room at once ?

[next owl]

no, not really.

lights themselves aren't visible when you bake. if you want things visible to the eye, make an object with an emissive surface.

[worn salmon]

well i dont see any reflections lie before

[next owl]

the standard shader isn't going to bake specular reflections IIRC.

if you want those reflections, you can try to place self-illuminated objects where your lights are before baking reflection probes

[worn salmon]

im not using the regular shader im on poiyomi's

[fallow lark]

why would you be using a toon Shader on a world

[worn salmon]

im not using the toon version

im using the realistic lighting setting so i also have access to other effects on the shader

[fallow lark]

none of the stuff in your screenshot was showing special effects

[worn salmon]

no cause it's not yet there....
but right now that's not the issue i have. I'm just trying to set up a very simple baked lighting and something isn't working

[fallow lark]

I would honestly suggest using the standard Shader for the stuff that doesn't have the special effects

[worn salmon]

well the floor has specular and metallic mapping so i can't do standard

[fallow lark]

the standard Shader can handle metallics

I would suggest at least doing a test we're all of your materials are standard Shader to make sure it's not your Shader breaking your baked lighting

[worn salmon]

nope doesnt show up on the floor at all

some light dissappear when i actually have them in view

[fallow lark]

question have you watched or read any baked lighting tutorials

so you can go down the checklist to make sure you're not goofing up something

[worn salmon]

i have and when it breaks before step one

i come here looking for help

[fallow lark]

question does your lighting break if you try it on like a empty world with just a plane and a cube and one light

[worn salmon]

i didn t try that yet .

[fallow lark]

well that way it would cut down on all the variables

[vernal storm]

best advice ever... I wish more people would do this , as its a great way to trouble shoot whats going wrong.

[vernal storm]

Just keep in mind , when you bake your lights spec and reflection disappear like Toadstorm says , then you will need to "Render" a reflection probe , then they should all come back , sometimes people get confused by this step.

[next owl]

usually when light baking isn't working the way you want it, there's a few common missteps.
1.) your lights aren't set to baked
2.) your geometry isn't lightmap static
3.) you didn't generate lightmap UVs on the mesh import settings, or you didn't make lightmap UVs in 3D
4.) you don't have reflection probes, or forgot to re-bake reflection probes after baking lights
5.) your light sources aren't bright enough
6.) your material base color isn't PBR-safe (too dark or too bright, use the Validate Albedo shading mode)

[vernal storm]

pbr material validator in scene , I didn't even know this existed , thanks for the tip

[next owl]

if you're not building PBR materials in substance painter or designer or something else with a validator, it's very handy!

GI will not bake well on textures outside the safe range, either you'll get too much bounce light or you won't get any at all

[twilit lily]

realtime? yes
baked? no

[worn salmon]

I checked all of the above and when i bake the lights just dont show anymore on the textures

[worn salmon]

and for point 6.) i don't know what that is

[next owl]

it's the dropdown in the top left of the viewport. by default it's on shaded mode. all the way near the bottom is a PBR validation mode

[worn salmon]

i tried to do a quick one light bake and see if it would change anything and it's preparing baking for hours....

[worn salmon]

does preparing bake over and over without ever really completing

[worn salmon]

to make sure it wasnt shader related i also changed the wall and floor to be Standard shaders

[next owl]

are you trying to use the GPU lightmapper or CPU?

[worn salmon]

the tutorial i saw said gpu .

but i tried both

got it to finish and the whole room be dark still

mesh is static

light is too

light is at baked

[next owl]

what does the room look like when there's no baked information

[worn salmon]

like ... with the light before i bake it

[next owl]

yes

[worn salmon]

like the realtime light?

[next owl]

delete the baked lightmaps and show me that same angle

[worn salmon]

how do i delte those ?

[next owl]

what's the light's settings look like?

[next owl]

okay. and the ground object you're baking to?

[next owl]

okay. in that first screenshot, had you already baked reflection probes?

what i'm seeing currently is that your ground material there is 100% metallic. that means that it's basically not going to receive any global illumination... it's entirely dependent on reflections for the color you see

[worn salmon]

oh ok

i have one reflection probe

[next owl]

try baking reflection probes after you bake lighting

but again, you should be certain that you want the entire ground plane there to be a metal.

[worn salmon]

i baked the probe when the lighting was visually there

[fallow lark]

like that looks like marble so that shouldn't be metallic

[worn salmon]

i showed the metal plate in the middle as a material not the marble

[fallow lark]

thanks for the clarification

[worn salmon]

baked it after and everything still dark

[next owl]

what's that marble material look like, the one that makes up the majority of your ground plane?

[worn salmon]

its a standard shader too

[next owl]

let's see it.

[next owl]

set Metallic to zero and try baking again

[fallow lark]

and metallic values are supposed to be zero or one for the metallic PBR Shader

[next owl]

in general, yeah. a surface is either metallic or it's not. you generally don't want to use values halfway in between

[fallow lark]

which is why metallic maps are black and white with no Gray

[worn salmon]

same result

[worn salmon]

Metalic are at 0 on both material and walls ....

[next owl]

i'm stumped man, sorry. it's pretty tough to diagnose lightmapping problems when you don't have the project in front of you.

if you have $60 or so, Bakery is infinitely easier to use than the built-in lightmapper, you might have better luck.

[worn salmon]

Its my first attempt at any of this so everything will be hard and a process to learn anyways

I tried to put a unity cube and place the light next to it and both static cause the same issue. Maybe its something to do with my lighting seting

[north nexus]

Recently switched from Nvidia to AMD and can no longer use Bakery.
Anyone know of any AMD baking plugins like Bakery? Considering Bakery is for Nvidia only.

[mint cipher]

Anyone know how to fix this, the lighting is not good, using bakery btw

[modest vapor]

What are your settings ?

[mint cipher]

Not sure if I have to add a metallic texture to my model or change a settings or create a material to make it look nice?

[modest vapor]

32 samples is very low, might wanna bump that up to 512

[mint cipher]

Alright anything else I need to change?

[mint cipher]

What 32 do I change, there a few?

[modest vapor]

The fix bright edges could come in handy given the intensity of your lights, in case of bleeding, but could be solved with more padding

Global illumination

You might want some AO

0.5 in intensity

[mint cipher]

Okay

[modest vapor]

Bake will take a bit longer lol

[mint cipher]

idm lol ill let it bake as i sleep

[mint cipher]

well it didnt pass 12 % as of writing this but i did stop it and the lighting looks amazing but its painfully slow 💀

any better tips for faster and good lighting

[glossy meteor]

512 samples for gi is way too much
bakery will warn you past 64
it will go crazy with 5 bounces

[timid sparrow]

anyone know why this might be happening? there's a sharp line in the middle. It's wherever the light is placed.

[timber wagon]

is it possible to have several baked lightmaps per scene?

I have a world that grown too large for just one light map and now using bakery quality became considerably lower

[glossy meteor]

bakery will start a new lightmap once your max size has been exceeded

[timber wagon]

for some reason it keeps baking everything into one 4k image

[glossy meteor]

then you did not exceed its maximum density or you use lightmap groups

what's your loss in quality? share your settings too

[timber wagon]

well shadows became more uhh, blurred?

[glossy meteor]

why do you do shadowmask?
depending on scene size, you may adjust texel count too

[timber wagon]

should I change it to full lighting? I don't really know much about bakery

scene is quite big, changed texel count to 40 for test

[glossy meteor]

take a look at the bakery wiki, shadowmask has a specific use with realtime lights
use full

[timber wagon]

yup, changing these fixed issue, thanks!

[glossy meteor]

that's good, texel count will correlate to fill rate of each lightmap, causing bigger file sizes at the advantage of detail, you will have to balance that

[timber wagon]

[mint cipher]

idk why but ever since i added some metallic textures... this happens

any ideas?

only in bakery^ in the regular lighting setting it shows up perfectly fine

[random talon]

have u checked if the materials / objects are set to static

[mint cipher]

yeah they are all static

[mint cipher]

^

[random talon]

have u generated lightmap UV's ?

[mint cipher]

yep

[random talon]

is it only certain parts or is it everywhere on the black objects ?, do u have proper light sources to interact and try see if its the ratio of the light etc ?

other than that, im not exactly sure what would then cause it, it looks like a common lightmap UV issue

[mint cipher]

yeah look ima render it using the regular lighting

Reference1

[next owl]

did you bake reflection probes after baking lighting? metallic surfaces generally aren't going to receive GI because they're dependent on reflections

[mint cipher]

oh snap do I have to do that every time I render after adding or modifying stuff? i thought bakery always did that

[next owl]

yeah, it's always the second step after rebaking GI

[mint cipher]

ah gotcha well see give me a second

using unity lighting baking

[mint cipher]

bakery

[mint cipher]

well i think this solves an issue

[mint cipher]

this one is better at reflecting and what not the other one is dark for what ever reason

[next owl]

well the albedo looks pretty different between those two

that color affects the reflected color, even on metals

[mint cipher]

that solves 99% of my issue

thanks for the help guys ♥️

[worn salmon]

What is a good shader that i can use for Baking lights in a world.
I need 3 things to be doable on it that the standard shader doesn't support.
1: Scaling textures
2: Matcaps
3: back Face culling OFF

[fallow lark]

could you clarify what you mean by Scaling textures and why do you need a Matcaps

and that's better for performance to jest duplicate some triangles to cover the two-sided bit instead of using backface culling off which basically would be doubling the triangles rendered on everything in your scene

[fresh pier]

has anyone had a problem where all of the spotlights stop being spotlights? lights decided to break for me

[fallow lark]

are they real time or baked

[fresh pier]

real time

[fallow lark]

because if their real-time there can only be so many real-time lights rendering at the same time

and you would want to bake your lighting for performance reasons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgUJccjWRU

[fresh pier]

so i should set them all to baked?

[fallow lark]

yes

[fresh pier]

alrighty thanks ^^

[fallow lark]

I'd recommend giving this video a watch to learn the the basics

and your frame rate is going to thank you

[mint cipher]

Any ideas on fixing this

i've been bashing my head against the keyboard for 4 days straight and i can't get baked lighting to look good

also this situation here

im THIS close to dropping my marbles and abandoning my project

[modest vapor]

Any warnings in your console ?

Did you follow a tutorial ?

https://twitter.com/Silent0264/status/1492671242302013441

Silent (@Silent0264)

Here is a handy tool I've been using: blender-xatlas!

It's useful for quickly making lightmap UVs that are better than Unity's and Blender's default lightmap unwrapper. I modified it to add support for unwrapping multiple objects in batch.

https://t.co/jm6s7TbtJu

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[mystic escarp]

Anyone know why my second reflection probe is combinging images with the first one?

[modest vapor]

You might have to manually set your probes anchor overrides

[mystic escarp]

i sadly dont know what anchor overrides are

[modest vapor]

top right corner of that screenshot

It helps objects determining which reflection probe they should base their reflections on

Right now your object is mixing two

So creating an empty object and placing it within the bounds of the first reflection probe and setting it as the anchor for the mesh should fix it, hopefully

[mystic escarp]

oki i will try that. Thank you

[mystic escarp]

I have just realised that all of my Glass walls are actually 1 object made in blender with just a shader added to it. Could that be an issue?

[modest vapor]

If you wanted each piece to have their own reflection, it might be necessary to make them individual objects, or making sure no reflection probe have intersecting bounds

[rapid spindle]

Hey, so I’m really new to unity, and I’m following a tutorial. I’m trying to bake lighting but it suddenly looks like this (it was fine before baking) what could cause this?

[olive glen]

@noble heath hey , im following ur tut. i was wondering if u could help. for some reason , when i try to change the color of any lights , whether it be my directional light or my point light , it doesnt change the color at all

or if anyone could help ^

[noble heath]

did you re-bake?

[olive glen]

yeah , a few times ;-;

should i delete the point light and try to re-do it ?

[noble heath]

always send screenshots with your problems if they're not super obvious

[olive glen]

i would like to make the room a bit darker , but i cant seem to

[noble heath]

light settings won't change until you bake again

[olive glen]

omg thank u. im a forehead.

[noble heath]

on the bake button, click the dropdown>clear baked data and bake again

[worn salmon]

im getting really weird shadows after baking on my floor and walls. I tried to lightmap parameter highresolution but it didn't help

[graceful tartan]

Weird shadows can be a result of overlapping lightmap uvs.
Have you got the generate lightmap option ticked on the object that the walls are coming from?

[worn salmon]

Yup i had it checked.

I fixed it by changing a few sliders in that section

[graceful tartan]

Ah yea, sometimes the default unwrap paramaters need some tweaking

[chrome kite]

Anyone know why the table is responsive/sensitive to realtime lighting but the floor/walls are not/very barely light up? Same shader (shader lite), contribute global lighting is unchecked for both (everything else seems to be similar basically from what I can see in inspector) and idk where else to look cuz am big unity noob

[next owl]

what's the albedo / base color of your floor and walls? and are they metallic or no?

[chrome kite]

metallic slider on 0.
tabletop, table legs, floor, wall

[fallow lark]

the bottom 3 wood materials look like they could be the same material just with different veritex color is on the objects

[chrome kite]

they're from the same pack yes

tho, the table legs are responsive too

[next owl]

those values all look pretty reasonable to me

are you generating lightmap UVs for your floor and walls?

[chrome kite]

I did bake lights earlier but since I have 0 baked lights, and using just ambient color for environment lighting it bakes no lighting data

it like very barely responds to the light

[next owl]

hmm, though i see smoothness is set to 0 and you have a map connected. might want to set that to 1 assuming your map values are correct

can't remember if that's a scalar on the map or not

[chrome kite]

smoothness looks weird but then again I'm a noob at lighting and just design in general

hence why I turned it down

doesn't explain why the table responds to it tho

[chrome kite]

No I did not make these assets if that's what you're asking

are from unity store

ok it does have to do with the scale it seems

since it's a big wall the light for some reason is just spread out over it I guess that it's hardly visible

when I scale it down in unity I see the light effect much more intensely

duplicated the wall behind and scaled it down in front of the light

not sure what I should do unless this is something that can't be changed in unity...?

[next owl]

you might need to adjust the lightmap scale of the asset in unity if you have it scaled quite large

this is in the mesh import settings for the source FBX

[chrome kite]

it's the prototype wall, but where would I find mesh import settings?

[barren crater]

Is there a way to toggle between baked and fully realtime lighting?
Basically toggle the baked lightmaps at runtime

[vernal storm]

just curious why you would want fully realtime lighting toggle ?

[barren crater]

Currently running into the issue where baked lightmaps don't take light color into account. I'm also trying to replicate an older map which was entirely realtime lightmapped

[vernal storm]

ahhh gotcha

[graceful tartan]

Cant say that's ever been an issue for me, light colour has always been applied as one would expect. What does it end up looking like when they dont apply?

[barren crater]

I have my light temp set to 1000. The expectation is it would be redish orange, but it isn't

[barren crater]

Seems light it's just light temp that doesn't get added to baked lightmaps. Regular color works

[mystic pebble]

Question, for quest any suggestion to make the change to vrchat standard light shaders not as terrible/horrible?

[sterile viper]

why does my light after baking look like the 2nd picture show and is there a way i can make it to look like it is in the first picture where it is not baked?

[modest vapor]

You want it to look wrong ?

[sterile viper]

do i? im sorry im a bit new to this

[modest vapor]

The second picture result looks great, and accurate

[sterile viper]

i think on the first pic the way the light throws is smoother somehow

like around the lamp

[modest vapor]

Oh, that, try changing the lightmap compression format to ASTC 4x4

Raising the samples could also help with general quality

[sterile viper]

what would be a general samples value ?

im on 32 direct samples

[modest vapor]

256 is a good halfway point, but will take much longer to bake, so only to do as a final bake

[sterile viper]

okay. thank you very much 🙂

btw the compression change already fixed my first problem, ty

[modest vapor]

[fallow lark]

cool

[olive glen]

i cant figure out why the avatsr in my dark world are like , super lit ;-; pls help

[fallow lark]

it's likely using a toon Shader

I would check your lighting with a avatar using the the standard Shader

[next owl]

you don't really have any control over avatar shaders that aren't Standard Lite, it's up to the shader to determine how to interpret light

[olive glen]

yeah i tried multiple avis- but also , whenever i bake my lighting , all of my lights completely just vanish

[fallow lark]

and question do you have any light probes

[olive glen]

yes , i put some around the room

[next owl]

when you bake lighting, you're probably losing specular highlights, not lighting itself

[fallow lark]

do you have a reflection probe

[next owl]

all of your surfaces look super dark, i'm guessing the albedo is very low. this means that you're going to be very dependent on reflections to get any lighting at all

[fallow lark]

and there are a couple of ways to fix the specular highlights not showing up on baked lighting

[next owl]

you need to rebake reflection probes anytime you bake lighting. and i recommend using the Validate Albedo shading mode to see if your walls / floor materials aren't too dark... they'll appear red if they're out of range

[fallow lark]

one of them involves like baking extra data to a reflection probe and the other has the Shader handle fake specular

[graceful tartan]

Are your objects all static?

[sinful herald]

Anyone know common reasons to unity not baking? Ifollowed Iconoclas in a lighting tutotrial and triple checked all my settings but whenever i press generate lighting it just jumps to being nearly done and back to the start again, no ETA or issue reports just "Preparing Bake" and constant up and back progress bar jumping, i have all objets set to static

If anyone has even a slight idea on how to fix it i would be grateful :))

[ornate nova]

Hey this morning the SDK3 is telling me I can't use unity 2019 anymore and wants me to use 2017, did the version change? It's doing this and I've tried reimporting

[sterile viper]

does it not bake the reflectioon probe when i bake the lightmap? it does for me i guess

[next owl]

i always have to re-bake the reflection probes after baking lighting, but i'm using bakery here

[sterile viper]

oh okay i guess its bakery then. when i bake with unitys lightning settings it says in the end "baking reflection probes" so yeah. thanks anyway for the reply tho

[weary folio]

I was following a tutorial and got this lighting glitch anyone know how to fix it?