3d-modeling

[spiral sigil]

to get use to the tools. and understand what they do

[azure rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j14b25SnYRY&list=PL3UWN2F2M2C8-zUjbFlbgtWPQa0NXBsp0&index=1

[craggy lintel]

Question

When doing bases

boobs should be fully sculpted

and then you flatten them later with keys and then uno reverse card that key

right?

is this a good method I’m doing/made up or should I do something else

[quaint jasper]

That's usually the method yes, but it should be bone scaling instead of shapekeys if you can, more performant

[vagrant current]

Hiya!

so hey uhh this might be a tricky question

so how do you put a character's model head into another model?

[quaint jasper]

https://youtu.be/FxUS5W8xtYc

[vagrant current]

Great for teaching how to add, but there not one for how to remove it from the original model

[quaint jasper]

Select the edge where you can to cut in edit mode, press V, then select the part you want to remove and delete the rest, then in edit mode for the armature you can delete all other bones than the neck/head/eyes and hair

[lilac urchin]

Oh cool!! I can post it without discord yelling at me

First model I’ve done!! So I was hoping I could show the whole thing

[naive garden]

how does one usually do lipsync and blinking? using shape keys? or bone?

[azure rain]

shape keys

[naive garden]

does unity able to recognize the shape keys?

[azure rain]

yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWKXbMQe3x4&list=PLRUlfYGZBxVeEAVXkaG1uydyzFZAMOuMd&index=3&t=9s official vrchat Avatar uploading tutorial which also shows setting up the lip sync

[naive garden]

i see, thanks

ohh in unity it's called blend shapes

[azure rain]

the two terms can be used interchangeably blend shapes/shape keys

[carmine dove]

blend keys/shape shapes

[spiral sigil]

just started. after editing the texture for 15 minutes or 20. i so far present. Danny Torrance

[oak sapphire]

great job

[spiral sigil]

Thanks 👍

[quasi plover]

i need help with this, i dont know what channel this falls under, so i'll put it here
basically exported a model from blender to unity, and applied the same texture, yet it ends up being off. It's not blurry, already fixed that, but the texture itself is off from where it's meant to be. does anyone know how to fix this?

[naive garden]

uhmm did you export it using fbx?

[quasi plover]

yup

[cinder cradle]

when exporting you used this option?

it could be that or uv maps are off

[naive garden]

oh right, i believe you need to apply the scale and the rotation first

i don't really know if it effect your exporting? but i always did that before exporting it into fbx

[cinder cradle]

it does

it fixes many problems people have bcs they forgot to apply scaling etc

[naive garden]

huh, good to know :D

[quasi plover]

didn't fix it

[cinder cradle]

check uv map

[quasi plover]

yes i used this, and i've got no idea on how to do UVs or anything

[cinder cradle]

go to edit mode of object open new work window in blender press a to select all vertices and select in second window uv map editor

[quasi plover]

oh this, yeah it is fine in blender but not in unity

[cerulean cipher]

does anyone happen to have a 3d model of the femboy hooters logo? or know what font to use in blender to make one

sorry not sure where to ask about this

[quasi plover]

what do i do?

[oak sapphire]

Not sure

[craggy lintel]

Can you change the viewport of the model you’re showing us?

[shrewd reef]

Started working on a mech early this morning. This is the first of two "arm cannons".

The idea is that it acts like a mini gun, but instead of firing bullets, it fires a hyper focused beam.

The circular rods and rings spin just as a mini gun would, but instead of acting as ballistic barrels when they spin up, they act as a cooling system to prevent the mechanism from over heating.

Heat levels are indicated by the color of the rods and light strip

Will be adding more to this later.
Next update will be an animated example.

[spiral sigil]

since i doont know which eye. i just made shapekeys for both of them ._. that was hard with the low poly eyes

[oak sapphire]

it is left eye

[silk steppe]

I check this segment and that's the first thing I see

[spiral sigil]

just watched the movie. understand that now.

[ocean hamlet]

hey are there any good character modelers here?

for organics

[carmine dove]

define organics

[ocean hamlet]

human

just need someone to fix a commission i had done and the fix request being refused by the modeler, because he didn't want to do a 1x1 accuracy thing. (i had like tons of references)

i am willing to even pay what needs fixed

(all that needs fixing, is just a characters face)

[carmine dove]

wtf :I

i dont get people who dont complete their commissions 100%

someone comm'd me to add emotes and then i helped them fix materials even tho that wasnt what i was comm'd to do

send a picture

of the model

[ocean hamlet]

in dm's, or?

[carmine dove]

sure

[ocean hamlet]

okay! thank you ;;

[carmine dove]

i'll see if i can help, no promises tho bc i do anime style

[ocean hamlet]

GOOD actually

[calm goblet]

as long as people say from the start that they're not gonna do a clone job i don't see a problem with it, people might want to keep their style intact or whatever

[carmine dove]

yes but then also don't take that commission if that's not what the person paying wants :/

[calm goblet]

that's why you make it known at the start

then the commissioner can decide if they want your work or if they want a clone

[amber perch]

Curious on how long this would take a complete 0 (like me) to make a character like the one below, using Blender + Photoshop (for textures).

I'm gonna estimate about a month or two. (Ping me if you're responding.)

[potent glade]

I wanna say the base model can be thrown together real quick in VRoid, clothes can be modeled/textured over in Blender + [most 2d painting/image editing programs) or Substance Painter

[azure rain]

the shorts and the top you could probably also do in viroid

[potent glade]

👍

[amber perch]

Honestly the biggest thing I'd have to model is the hoodie and that's about it. For the base I can just use Mishe since I purchased the Booth model and last I checked it's okay to use parts from it in other projects.

[potent glade]

just at a glance, half the work can prob be done in VRoid

and if you really wanna cut down on the time, find clothing models that are free to be reused in other projects (remember to get permission from the artists/owners!!!)

[azure rain]

yeah the hat is definitely the most custom part of the model

[potent glade]

scale/retexture/weight paint accordingly

and boom, done

[azure rain]

I probably recommend looking around booth.pm for kitbashing pieces as those have permission to use in vrchat

[potent glade]

I wanna say maybe the hoodie can be done in VRoid?

[amber perch]

Yup it's a pretty simple design, obviously I'm not going to copy it one for one. Just make something inspired by it... and hopefully it looks good!

The kitbashing idea is a pretty good one and probably worth looking into when it comes to designing the hoodie.

However I don't think it'd be that hard to make one from scratch either.

[azure rain]

and probably wouldn't be too hard to kitbash the regular VRoid hoodie and replacing the top of the hood with something custom that goes over the head

[amber perch]

The above image has enough information to sorta extrapolate a back view, front view, and side view. As well.

[potent glade]

Not sure about the glow in the hoodie, an emitter inside the hoodie?

[amber perch]

Shader.

[azure rain]

also might be a good idea to get a couple of more images that are different to mix-and-match Inspirations so you end up with a bit more of original design

[amber perch]

But that's where I'm gonna take some creative liberties as well. Instead of the glow going to do a pair of red glowing eyes that emote based on gestures.

[azure rain]

that sounds nice

and yeah that looks like a pretty achievable first-time project

[amber perch]

Yeah I already have a more original design in my head, the image above is just what inspired it. Plus I don't wanna give it away.

Since this is a public server and you'll never know when someone can swoop in and steal an idea.

[azure rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9GDWKzf1mc

[amber perch]

That video was actually recently recommended to me. Proof that Google is watching. xD

[azure rain]

you probably have to do some retopology with this method but figured I'd give the link if you wanted to try to make it look cloth the hoodie top

[amber perch]

Honestly I was just going to make a bunch of sketches "until it looks good" and then take the best looking sketch and do a 9, 10, 12, 6. (Rotating based on clock face.)

Then trying to trace it in Blender or something.

[azure rain]

nice

[potent glade]

I recommend starting with just a character silhouette, if the silhouette reads well, then the rest should follow

silhouettes are super useful for make super quick adjustments without committing to any detail

[amber perch]

Thanks I'll try it out. Tbh I'm just musing still need to finish my other projects (not related at all).

[calm goblet]

depends if you wanna do a good job of it or not, you could do it in a day or a week and it'd be shit, or you could spend a few months to a year learning how to do it properly and it'd be good

[mild bramble]

are there any gud tutorials for hands, i haven't made a hand in a while and got a little rusty

[lean kindle]

Hello ! Does anyone know why does this happen and how to fix it ? ;-;

[carmine dove]

you have two planes that overlap

delete the selected one and remake the face by selecting the edges and hit f

[lean kindle]

it won't work, haha :'))

it does the same thing :'>>

[bold urchin]

Select a vertex, hide it and see if there’s a vertex hiding under it

[warm moss]

is this video allowed here?

I created a Pumpkin Hat in Maya and recorded the entire process. Some of you might find it interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob1hDQjJ51M&ab_channel=BananaBeans

Sound is coming soon, YouTube music library needs to be applied and it takes a while

[cosmic merlin]

Erased the legs for more low poly count. It's no longer necessary.

[harsh fable]

Does anyone know why my character's texture turned out like this? With these flaws. In paint mode they don't appear, they only appear in observation mode. I use Blender 2.82.7

They only appear where I made the splits to open the mesh.

[obsidian nova]

Those are seams

You need to have a “bleed/margin” around the UV map you’ve painted in or it’ll do this.

[obsidian nova]

This is awesome.

Liminal vibes

I’d love to see someone paint these, on like giant canvasses

[harsh fable]

?

What do I do with it?

[languid fog]

Change the bleed to 4 or 6

[cinder cradle]

It's against the TOS

[north rapids]

awww dang it

[cinder cradle]

could get you and someone banned

[north rapids]

nvm

might have to get new pc

[cinder cradle]

Depends if it's pc specs problem or windows problem than reinstall windows

[north rapids]

my java broke

[shrewd reef]

Ty, planning on using it for a CTF map

[naive garden]

Question: Is this A pose viable for animation and other things? or i should make the hand horizontal instead?

[cinder cradle]

Better go with t-pose

[naive garden]

ok

is there a way to do it? cause i'm not sure how to make A pose to T pose

[cinder cradle]

is your character rigged ? or not yet

you just need to pose it in t-pose

[naive garden]

not yet

[cinder cradle]

rig it first

[naive garden]

wait... so i can't make it t pose without rigging it? xD

[cinder cradle]

i mean you can but why make it hard

[naive garden]

i see

[spiral sigil]

can someone help me? i just got a model from someone tho im not sure how to get dynamic bones working (unity)

[naive garden]

i think you need to have the asset for that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AjpkOlRWPI&t=864s @spiral sigil i am not sure what is your detailed problem... so i will link a video that i watched

[spiral sigil]

tho i see how to do it now with the video but seems like im gunna uninstall unity and never touch it again and now i have thrown away 80$ :D

[naive garden]

wait before doing that

ask the person that made the model

[spiral sigil]

its not their fault i blame unity

[naive garden]

does he have dynamic bone already attached in it?

[spiral sigil]

no

i installed all my versions of unity and they all gave errors, tried restarting my pc, redownloading, everything

nothing is working

and now i cant add dynamic bones etc bcc of this

i hate unity

[naive garden]

hmm, what ver are you using?

[spiral sigil]

2019 one bc thats the one i needed to use the person told me

[naive garden]

try reinstalling the package

[spiral sigil]

i have tried multiple times.

[naive garden]

weird...

[spiral sigil]

i just cannot add dynamic bones bc of the fact i cant install the stupid unity thing without errors

and i have enough space i have like 2T available

[naive garden]

can you ask the person you commission to add the dynamic bones?

xD

if he/she is kind enough

or ask the person to guide you ;)

[spiral sigil]

their dms are closed and none in their server is helping me.

[naive garden]

ouch

are you free? can you stream it?

wait there are no voice chats here...?

[spiral sigil]

what do u need me to stream?

[naive garden]

hmm the trouble you're dealing with currently

[spiral sigil]

this is the only trouble

the fact i cant do it bc of the errors i have with the installing unity.

[naive garden]

can i see that yellow error?

[spiral sigil]

💀

[naive garden]

wut the

huh...

[cinder cradle]

wrong unity

31F1 not 34f1

[spiral sigil]

idk how to get the 31FI one its not one of the options

[naive garden]

oh ok, please wait, i will get the link @spiral sigil

it's not in the hub for the reason that i don't know

[cinder cradle]

https://download.unity3d.com/download_unity/bd5abf232a62/Windows64EditorInstaller/UnitySetup64.exe

direct link

don't use wrong unity

it will always give you problems

[spiral sigil]

the facct that the file is way to big and my pc refuses to download it

😭

i give up

[cinder cradle]

how much of free space your disk have?

[naive garden]

ouch

[spiral sigil]

2T

LOL

[cinder cradle]

2tb?

[spiral sigil]

YES

oops caps

[cinder cradle]

Lol 2tb is ton of space

[naive garden]

that's very odd? why won't your browser / pc download it

[spiral sigil]

i moved it to my other disk which has 1tb and now it works fine

wht

a disk with 2tb free doesnt work and a disk with 1tb does?

[naive garden]

🤔

[spiral sigil]

the patience

[naive garden]

your download speed is faster than mine xD

i have like 1Mb/s

oof

[cinder cradle]

me chilling with 80mb/s

but it could depend if server can keep up

[spiral sigil]

its slower then usually

patience

almost there

[cinder cradle]

ok chill out just wait

unity won't run away

[spiral sigil]

ok its finished now what do i do

[naive garden]

oh also

i have a question

[cinder cradle]

Check if earlier opened project in 34f1 will work if not make new

[naive garden]

does the person who commission you give you the blend file? fbx? or unityPackage? @spiral sigil

[cinder cradle]

in 31f1

[spiral sigil]

unity package

[naive garden]

ah ok

[spiral sigil]

okay so now i do everything over again right

[cinder cradle]

if you have unitypackage it won't take much time

[spiral sigil]

why is it

going on my

wrong disk

what is this

im getting braindamage trying to read it

[cinder cradle]

you might want to delete temporary files

search in windows "delete temporary files"

[naive garden]

%temp%?

[cinder cradle]

nope better do it through windows

[spiral sigil]

ill need to get my dad bc im actually scared i might do smth wrong

lol

[cinder cradle]

ok than

[naive garden]

that's the best option :)

having someone to guide you through is better

[spiral sigil]

woohooo it works! i just gotta do the dynamic bones now

tysm both of you

[cinder cradle]

Congrats

[naive garden]

congrats :3

[ornate oxide]

ttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Y5Z1T1F/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_7D68H7VP45GMV6CZE10K?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

would this be a worth investment

i deleted the h because idk if im allowed to post links

[desert crown]

does anyone know how to get rid of this line? not too sure whats it called

[slow hound]

Relationship lines? You can hide them here. If you are using older Blender press "n" look for "display" and deselect "relationship lines"

[desert crown]

thank you squall! i was more of asking how to fix it, but got the answer elsewhere. Its something to do with origin point and geometry. Thank you though! I will take your help as future references too in case these relationship lines gets annoying in the future.

[slow hound]

ohh oops!

[desert crown]

nvm it only works when i change it to geometry and not to cursor

[desert crown]

Coming back just to say this, clicking fix model in cats plugin fixes the relationship lines/dotted lines. Although it shouldn't be like this, but i'll take it

[real bough]

Can someone tell me why the head looks fine in solid mode but in material mode looks like this for the veiwport shading?

this is in solid mode where it looks normal :

[naive garden]

Try to go to material properties > viewport display > blend mode into opaque (if it's in alpha clip)

[real bough]

I think I fixed it. I changed the blendmode

YEA

lmao

thank you

❤️

[naive garden]

lol

[thorny ivy]

While not related to avatars, decided to revisit some old props an' update them to match my current renderin' style. Long-term plan's to make an interactable showcase + explore the original settin' it takes place in.

Still need to figure out what shader'd work best for a line art-style look though, haven't had much luck so far.

[thorny ivy]

Experimentin' with line rules. Ya'll think solid or partial lines look better for stuff like this?

[bold urchin]

Partial is better for organic objects
Solid is better for hard objects

[quaint jasper]

I agree ^

[carmine dove]

is this from scratch or a base? looks so cute

[real bough]

Noooo Creator is sweaty#1214 !!!!!

[unkempt bridge]

i am unity dumb, i received a vrm from a seller on etsy. i usually get the vroid file also but they lost it. i managed to change the hair color and dress color, but i really want to change the clothes. i have a much sad that i cant do these things

[thorny ivy]

You can still edit vrm files in blender

[unkempt bridge]

blender seems much harder to use. 😞

[thorny ivy]

Quite the easy one compared to unity

[spiral sigil]

for hopefully the last time. im making Another jack torrance. heres the jacket im texturing. looks pretty nice if i do say so my self.

[shut mountain]

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/decorative-shop-board-1b39273ef9fa4da290e8af0678e304b9 made this some days ago

[craggy lintel]

Can I use substance to bake normals into textures too?

I can’t figure it out rn

I keep on baking normal maps not normal’s shadows into my texture

[quaint jasper]

You mean AO ?

[languid fog]

[normal current]

looks like smth out of a creepypasta lmao

[idle junco]

Fellow box modeler let’s go

Too many sculptors nowadays 😔

[thorny ivy]

Bowl and cup

You'd put quite a bit more effort in that if you're going to sculpt it lol

[steady zealot]

Commission for a friend

[quaint jasper]

Clean

[spiral sigil]

Hello is it here i ask for how i make glass matirial to work in vrchat?

[steady zealot]

#shaders

[spiral sigil]

ok, thanks!

[clear phoenix]

starting to work on a model for a world, its basicly a IC with a couple legs, if i want to colour each leg seperately (highlights and stuff) and add wirting to the body itself, should each leg have its own material assigned and the body get a texture added or should i make different models for each of the ICs? (i guess using just one and doing the text stuff at "runtime" would keep the world size lower?)

[quaint jasper]

Each leg doesn't need its own material to be able to do that

you can do texture scrolling to get different colors/text

[clear phoenix]

ty, off to tutorials i go

[onyx radish]

so i kind of understanding UV editing but any good links about doing it to a 3d object so it fits all the pieces? IE. a DJ controller or midi controller

this is what i have but the texture is only on the square piece not any of the buttons or the slider

[thorny ivy]

Unity-wise, not sure what kind of UV stuff can be done exactly but UV maps tell where textures go on an object.

In 3D modelin' programs like Blender, UVs can be made/edited based on object geometry.

So the UV maps for the buttons either don't exist for that particular texture or are messed up.

[night trout]

Hi, I have a question, can I have parts of my avatar as separate objects?
as ive tried joining them all together and fixing parts together, but i can't apply the finger claws to the fingers without having to completely redo my hand's topology

[onyx radish]

i mostly figure it out thanks!

[quaint jasper]

What's preventing you from doing that ?

[night trout]

mostly from what ive heard its prefered if you have everything in one object?

[quaint jasper]

One object doesn't mean connecting topology

[night trout]

ah ok

that
genuinely has saved me from just
imploding cause ive been working on my avatar for about a year now lol

[heady tusk]

im looking for a bath robe for this model. anyone got any ideas?

[naive garden]

red bath robe

also, i'm confused?
it's pink (mising texture) in the solid shading, but it's fully textured in material preview?

🤔

oh wait maybe it's pink because of the line art material that i make

[spice storm]

who here can design/create vr worlds? i have a tiktok with over 130,000 followers and want to create a nice hang out spot! lets work

[lofty onyx]

downloaded some stuff to make an Octoling OC, anyone got the patience to teach me Blender?

I have it in Maya controls

[prime zenith]

Guys, how do I fix these creases on my mesh ?

[foggy granite]

select all the faces causing the issue then use alt+n then click recalculate

[prime zenith]

Did not do anything

[foggy granite]

odd

can you enbale face orientation from this menu

[prime zenith]

Faces are on the same side

[foggy granite]

cheack if they any overlapping vertex

[prime zenith]

I did merge by distance, removed 30 vertices but still no change

[foggy granite]

hmm no clue then

[prime zenith]

👀

[spiral sigil]

u could delete the bad ones. then fill it in

[prime zenith]

I tried that

[thorny ivy]

Is that with your normal map plugged in?

[naive garden]

oh god, does anyone know how to rig something that has solidify modifier already applied?

i wanted to weight paint it but it only added the weight on the outside and not the inside part 😂

[spiral sigil]

R u making that urself

[quaint jasper]

Does it not copy the weight paint inside when applying the modifier ?

[naive garden]

well... i apply the modifier first before even putting the weight >.<

[naive garden]

the weight?, no that was the automatic one, currently i'm filling the weight manually

[quaint jasper]

Why did you put another solidifier modifier on it then ?

[naive garden]

that's for the line art

forgot to mention that xD

sorry

[quaint jasper]

In that case you probably will have to redo the weight paint, unless you can delete the faces generated by the first solidify modifier and then reapply a new one

[naive garden]

i think weight paint it manually is better than deleting the generated faces xD less painful

but thanks tho

[quaint jasper]

Gradients are your friends

[wise jewel]

So, I'm trying to make loop cuts and they aren't playing nice, and are only trying to cut one vert at a tip in a UV sphere.

[spare mauve]

Hey, if I export my avatar from the unity project into blender, change some things and then put it back will things break like animations and such?

[quaint jasper]

If you change anything regarding the armature, yes

[spare mauve]

I didn't touch the armature no

I also checked if it changed any names and such

I just did some sculpting on one of the clothing items and didn't touch the rest.

[spare mauve]

Oh I see what you mean now. I got my answer thanks

[naive garden]

nope, if you're only sculpting, shouldn't broke anything

unless you're generating more geometry or vertex, that new vertex must be adjusted

[spiral sigil]

I asked if you were making the model LOL

[cloud chasm]

Anyone know how to fix separations in a model

[quaint jasper]

Merge by distance in edit mode, increase range if you need to

[wise jewel]

I have an outfit with biiiiig dangly sleeves I've resized to fit a model. However, when merging the armatures through CATS, the weights of the bottom of the sleeves disappears. Is there a better way to resolve this when this happens?

[spare current]

i wanna try this

how long does it take u guys to create one avatar

[quaint jasper]

Any screenshot ?

[spiral sigil]

30 minutes

or 15

[dusty heron]

It depends on what you use and are trying to accomplish, a simple vroid avatar could be done and uploaded in a few minutes, but an avatar made completely from scratch could take multiple days, and even months in some cases

[spare current]

Nice

Thanks guuys im hoping to grt a drawing tablet soon so i can do stuff like that

[carmine dove]

drawing tablet not required tbh!

[carmine dove]

what's your process?

[spiral sigil]

Generating the Head. Editing the texture giving it more skin etc. Finding clothes, fitting the head onto the clothes. Cutting out unnecessary vertices. Adding those teeth. Shape keys. Rigging. And boom

[carmine dove]

in 30 minutes? that's super impressive

takes me a week or 2

[spiral sigil]

thanks:)

[naive garden]

oh yes i am xD

i'm not sure how to make the shader looks like anime-like with texture images

cause i need to have the texture images

[devout scroll]

go into solid view mode and set it to flat then pick texture below it

the top right balls, solid is the second one and the rest of the options are in the dropdown

[wise jewel]

I... fell asleep before then. I found out how to do it manually, and it wasn't even as much effort as I'd expected.

[cosmic merlin]

My model is transparent again! Recalculate doesn't work, I requre help from anyone

[devout scroll]

what shading mode are you on (top right balls)

[cosmic merlin]

It goes along with the unity too.

How do you fix it?

[cosmic merlin]

Uhm

[obsidian nova]

We need more info

Click on the drop down arrow next to those little balls and check “show back faces” or “show face orientation”; I’m away from my desk atm, and forget what they call it.

Your normals might be flipped. Blue is good, red is flipped.

[thin shadow]

sometimes, checking the face orientation will help

[cosmic merlin]

Ight

[night trout]

used the metarig in the rigify addon
dunno if thats a good basis to go off from
or what else i need to add in terms of bones

[quaint jasper]

#avatar-rigging message

[night trout]

well fuck
cause my model definitely aint in that position at all

[calm goblet]

you don't actually have to rig it in t-pose

but you do have to build the rig so it'll t-pose that way, otherwise it ruins your model as soon as it goes vr mode

as i found out not too long ago lol

[night trout]

aight

so something along the lines of this?

[quaint jasper]

Yep that's correct

[night trout]

same with the legs?
cause i had to angle it a tad bit to fit the body

[quaint jasper]

That's completely fine

[night trout]

nice, guess its time to weight pain

yknow i forgot the t there but honestly its way better that way lmao

[untold schooner]

made this over the past few hours, thoughts?

supposed to be a combination of an axe and a gun

[quaint jasper]

Is the axe head meant to have those very sharp edges ? Other than that it looks great

[untold schooner]

i just forgot to bevel those

[night trout]

that is such a dope design ngl

[foggy granite]

Looks great

[spiral sigil]

for my next trick I will make an avatar

[wise jewel]

Hah... I'm running into more transfer issues with CATS.

I wonder if it's a 3.0 issue. I'll try reupdating the dev version.

It's nice when it works because of how hectic certain armatures can be.

[thin shadow]

cats doesnt work with 3.0 yet

[wise jewel]

Yeah. Some things do, but not all of it.

It's a good time to learn to manually do a lot of this.

[devout scroll]

are you still having issues with the long sleeves?

[wise jewel]

Nah, I got that figured out by...

1: Renaming every common bone to be the same between the two.

2: Deleting them.

3: Merging the armatures with Control J, and manually parenting the orphaned bones to their new homes.

It sucks that it doesn't work, 3.0 is really slick and fast.

I especially like the fact that my blend files (one of which is over 600 megs on 2.9) are half the size or less.

I actually used this method to fix avatars I had problems with... for a while. Even before switching.

It helps that I shift+D duplicate the armature and hide it, so I have a hierarchy reference when I rebuild it.

[visual vigil]

https://twitter.com/HexeArtz/status/1486906661314961410

Junos 🔞 (@HexeArtz)

#StarWars #Mandalorian armor wip! very happy I finally get to have something of my own

Twitter · Jan 28, 2022, 3:39 AM

[quaint jasper]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/b5Vg5G

[thorny ivy]

You modeled everything in a day?

[quaint jasper]

3 days total

[thorny ivy]

Just pure poly modeling?

[quaint jasper]

Yeah, I find it easier

[thorny ivy]

Dang that looks pretty nice

[quaint jasper]

Thanks

[thorny ivy]

Especially the triangular areas of his helmet lol

Always have a hard time with those

[quaint jasper]

Yeah that was a pain in the ass to do

but worth it

[untold schooner]

looks great, you got the shininess on the helmet just right

is this all in blender?

[quaint jasper]

Thanks, helmet was hard to get right, had to test a ton of HDRIs and ended up using a screencap from the movie
texturing in substance and render in marmoset

[untold schooner]

couldve used a hdri of the same scene from the battlefront games but still for 2 days its really well done

[prime zenith]

That's clean

[naive garden]

hmm.... how does one usually rig faces?

shape keys? or bones

i'm not sure which one should i do

[cinder cradle]

you could rig face to make blendshapes easier

that's it's only purpose

[naive garden]

oh... i mean like which technique should i use? to rigging a face

[cinder cradle]

i would recommend rigging face with bones bcs you can add as many bones for everything you want

[naive garden]

okie

thanks!

[calm sandal]

I have a model made

but I just need to merge all the parts into a single mesh

I got some sections to do it by using the boolean tool with the union option

but trying to do this to some sections removes parts in their entirety

two images, 1st is main body, 2nd is the hands at the end of the limbs

the main body has all the parts unified into a single mesh

but the hands are still made of individual parts that have some vertices overlapping and inside the parts

which from what I have heard really messes up UV mapping for texture painting

if anyone knows how I can fix this or where I might be able to find out then please let me know

[pseudo knoll]

is there a place for HDRI's other than HDRI heaven?

at this rate I've found better success with making my own matcaps than using other people's hdri's

[calm sandal]

hdri?

[pseudo knoll]

basically imagine cubemaps but instead its two spheres instead of six squares from what I can remember

[calm sandal]

ah

still you wouldn't happen to know anything about my current predicament would you

mostly I am trying to make the model better so I can make a UV map and paint it

when I tried before random sections seem to get painted over while I was trying to do others

from what I can tell this is because sections of the UV map overlap

I manualy fixed the head's UV map and it fixed the problem

but I may be better off making a new one with all the parts unified into a single mesh

[pseudo knoll]

if you're trying to preserve color layouts or base color maps while changing UV's, you'll find it quite tough.
You can make UV unwrapping easier by marking seams to unwrap everything into managable regions, but that takes a bit of practice to perfect

[calm sandal]

heck

I don't need it to be that good

I just need things not to overlap

and make other parts get colored randomly

[pseudo knoll]

oh just select everything and do smart UV unwrap if you're impatient, but it will cause issues with normal seams with specific shaders in Unity.

wherever there is a UV seam certain shaders will have seams in the normals, just takes some fixing

[night trout]

ngl
the blendshapes are gonna be pain to make on my model
cause i didnt rig it to make it easier

[night trout]

also
fuck upper leg bones in terms of autoweight and weight painting in general

[pseudo knoll]

turn on mirror weights and tinker the weight paints while its in a pose for the desired result

[quaint jasper]

Google images can be surprisingly good lol

[pseudo knoll]

tysm

[night trout]

been trying to fix what's in the pic above
and ngl it is
kinda impossible to fix

[spiral sigil]

making vanoss

[naive garden]

ay banoss

[naive garden]

looks fine in Eevee, but suddenly it looks weird in cycles, why?? (top one is eevee, bottom is cycle)

oh wait... is it because cycles doesn't ignore invis texture from flipped normal?

[fallow geyser]

nice odokawa too homie

[quaint jasper]

thanks

[weary shadow]

Heya, i have never attempted adding clothing in blender before, and am pretty intimidated by the process. Cause I know the process differs depending on if clothing is already weiggt painted, rigged, etc. Been watching tutorials but feel overwhelmed and unsure what tutorial to follow. For reference, I want to add clothing rigged for panda female base, to a panda female base. Since they are for same base, do i just plop it on and call it a day? Or how is the process different?

[quaint jasper]

#avatar-rigging message

One of the cats dev made a one click feature for that

[weary shadow]

Oh yah!? Thank you! I will repost my question in that channel ^-^

[jagged sail]

can someone help me start my vcr character model journey?

pwese

[calm goblet]

start out with grant abbitt's character art tutorials

[weary shadow]

I asked in the other channel but my question got lost in a sea of other messages. Could you potentially link me? ^-^

[quaint jasper]

You just need to rely on the development version of the cats addon for blender

@spare crater Do you happen to have a direct link to your latest version ?

[spiral sigil]

i made whiteface from imscared

[spare crater]

https://github.com/absolute-quantum/cats-blender-plugin/archive/refs/heads/development.zip

[urban wing]

Hey does anyone know how to like connect things so it doesn't do this?

[spiral sigil]

how do i make them point all upright?

[cinder cradle]

you mean like make them do 180? just type in rotation on X 180

[spiral sigil]

they are all particles

fixed it

[cinder cradle]

oh ok they were particles lol

there is rotation tab for them

[spiral sigil]

can i set a camera to spawn in my viewpoint?

[night trout]

suffering

legit im tempted just to ask around and see if anyone wants to help me with the weight paints
cause god this shit is janky af rn

[carmine dove]

fuck weight painting all my homies hate weight painting

@night trout is it from scratch?

[night trout]

automatic weight paints

cause fuuuck doing the weight paints from scratch

[carmine dove]

feel that

is the model from scratch i meant tho haha

[night trout]

yeah!

[carmine dove]

what are u tryna weight paint rn? just the body?

[night trout]

yeah, doing clothes once ive gotten it all textured and ready
though i still need my new user rank tbf

[carmine dove]

can i see ur progress :0

im way too lazy to make bodies from scratch tbh

i use vroid bodies then edit them a bunch

[night trout]

had to Clyde-Protect it
but yeah, here's what ive done so far

[carmine dove]

v cool!!!

this shirt is the toughest thing ive made from scratch so far

[night trout]

nice!

[carmine dove]

but on the bright side once u get the body weight painted u can transfer it to the clothes

[night trout]

and yeah, thats true

[carmine dove]

downside is then u gotta make adjustments

but the whole process is so rewarding

[thorny ivy]

And then there's some parts where the vertex normals are totally different or are far away from the source mesh lol

[calm goblet]

that's why you make template clothing that's already weighted and wrap it onto your high poly

[atomic hamlet]

Discord's filter is a little TOO sensitive lol.

[quaint jasper]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Ark2zW

[calm sandal]

that is awsome

[quaint jasper]

Thanks !

[cobalt onyx]

ik this is an old message but how can i do this

[spiral sigil]

hi

I am thinking about making ve chat avatars as a part time job,, do you guys think its doable?

I just mean do the people of this awsome community want to buy models, or do they just get free ones?

[spiral sigil]

It turned out that the model is 2 GB big is 💀

Fuck

[thorny ivy]

lots of baking to do lol

[untold schooner]

really well done, great job on the shading. i especially like how the animation is a an actual blendshape

[calm sandal]

question

how the fuck do I texture paint

Because I have the model done but just need to color it.

this is the character I am trying to make

I think the model is good enough but for some reason texture painting seems way harder than modelling from scratch

any texture painting tips?

[potent glade]

could try the free trial of Substance Painter

[calm sandal]

never heard of it

but ok

[round niche]

you could try https://quixel.com/mixer its free~

[calm sandal]

actually I think long term I might be better off keeping the model to just blender

pluss it seems I fixed the UV mapping

[devout scroll]

texture painting support is pretty bad in blender

[cinder cradle]

it's tragic

[spiral sigil]

not the worst

[cinder cradle]

i hate making textures in blender

i use substance painter

[spiral sigil]

the only thing i use in tex painting is just smear. cuz the normal stuff is just laggy and bad

[cinder cradle]

hope blender gonna improve texturing

[spiral sigil]

maybe one day.

[devout scroll]

apparently texturing improvements are on the roadmap for this year but no specifics

[cinder cradle]

yes i heard that too

[celest thistle]

Hello there! I am still looking for a blender artist to assist in creating the base for my club. I have unity knowledge but I know nothing about blender! I am willing to pay! Please contact me if you or someone you know may be able to assist me in this project! ❤️ Thank you! ❤️

[quaint jasper]

https://ask.vrchat.com/c/commissions/world-commissions/34

[spiral sigil]

tried adding real hair. again. looks a bit weird but it shall do.

[cinder cradle]

it doesn't fit the face lol but looks pretty good

[calm goblet]

that's what happens when you forget to make a low poly

[spiral sigil]

yep

[potent glade]

I'm curious how you manage to do that

[grave aurora]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/524581501652828170/937480082732249129/unknown.png

My next public avatar coming soon

[sonic storm]

First piece of Clothes iv made for Vrchat
I do commissions to 🦋

[potent glade]

So, for Blender, what are some absolutely essential addons?

[proven plinth]

CATS is a big one

[calm goblet]

do what?

[potent glade]

end up with a 2GB avatar 👀

[calm goblet]

easy

too many high res textures, too many bones, never learning how to use normal maps to get their details so instead they make a 1mil polygon model with every single detail in actual geo with 50 outfits all in the same model all with way too many polygons cause no one knows what a normal map is

[potent glade]

wew

[calm goblet]

what's also fun is loading your high poly into unity, when your high poly is like 200mil polys cause you have a whole bunch of duplicated objects from when you were still settling on the design and wanted to have a backup there

spoiler alert, unity dies

[devout scroll]

that works take 10 hours to import

[calm goblet]

you get bored afte a few mins though lol

[dusty heron]

The meshes probably also get split up multiple times at that point

at least in Unity 2017.2 and earlier

[devout scroll]

yeh not anymore tho there could be a new limit

[dusty heron]

The new limit is >4 billion

But there's more two settings for it, 16 bit and 32, and if it surpasses the 16 bit limit it just switches to 32, which is more than enough

[devout scroll]

yeah well

that means that practically there's no limit

[dusty heron]

The sky computer hardware's the limit!

[thorny ivy]

Separating into parts and retopology would be a good next step

[spiral sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/760964540245475368/937780528948584508/Kohzie_Lounge.png

My lounge world I be workin on

[novel estuary]

Working on my first vrchat model

[spiral sigil]

aint made a monster in a while. so heres a new one!

[spiral sigil]

lookin nice imo

[night trout]

awww yeah we UVing

[atomic hamlet]

Ah yes, the second most annoying part right after rigging.

[thorny ivy]

The fun part lol

[spiral sigil]

haha funny let me in guy

[alpine tusk]

hello, im trying to use a motion in VMD type, how do i use it?

[alpine tusk]

why does this happen?

[still wadi]

lack of knowledge

[thin shadow]

Perhaps the uv map name is mismatched when joining meshes

[alpine tusk]

wdym by uv map?

my friend did the same thing with the same model and he doesnt get any errors x3 but if i uncheck "combine same materials" i get that weird thing

[thin shadow]

this part

[thin shadow]

wait a minute, this happens when combining materials? then check for each texture to have its path defined.

[night trout]

man
getting the uvs to look right is gonna be a pain

[sturdy lichen]

epic

[devout scroll]

just add some more cuts

if you're painting in substance it doesn't even matter that much

that you have more seams

[night trout]

i dont have substance painter
but i'd assume that blender's built in texture painter is fine?

[devout scroll]

It's actually pretty bad

[cinder cradle]

it has built in texture painter yes but it's not as good as in substance painter

[devout scroll]

But there are other options too

[cinder cradle]

without graphic tablet texturing in blender is hell

[devout scroll]

Not necessarily, it's more like it's hell because of flat projection

You draw around a corner and you get an awful smudge

[azure rain]

https://quixel.com/mixer apparently this one is free to download

[devout scroll]

No layers either without node fuckery

Mixer is fine but it's better for procedural stuff

[cinder cradle]

yes that's true layers are super important

[devout scroll]

Last I checked you couldn't have masks on paint layers in mixer

Which is kind of a deal breaker

Or maybe you couldn't have hand painted masks

It's shaping up to be great but isn't quite there yet

[night trout]

i mean tbf my sona does not need much in terms of detail lol

[cinder cradle]

oh yeah than blender is fine

[devout scroll]

well if you want flat colors sure but eh

[azure rain]

probably wouldn't be too much of a pain in the butt to bake some ambient occlusion to overlay on top of the flat color

[cinder cradle]

when i was doing textures in blender i always was ending up remaking them in 2d program

[night trout]

still, i'll give that Mixer program a try tbh

[night trout]

gave it a try and
it kinda feels clunky to use ngl

also
anyone know what the best texture sheet size is?

[primal beacon]

a bigger texture sheet is going to give you more detail but will also require more graphical memory. for that character you can probably get away with 1024x1024

[night trout]

this a good eye UV?

[quaint jasper]

I'd personally scale it on the X axis so that the shape is the same, but it depends on your texturing process

[night trout]

aight

[night trout]

mouth UVs

[night trout]

think this might be good for UVs

[cinder cradle]

already everything mapped?

there are some spots left

you can make something bigger

[night trout]

i guess i could make the torso bigger

[night trout]

this better?

[cinder cradle]

yeah better

[night trout]

managed to make it alot better

so thoughts
is this good enough for me to get started with my textures?

[azure rain]

yeah it looks decent

[cinder cradle]

hmm yes it's fine

[night trout]

coolio

[azure rain]

like if you were making a model to sell it could potentially be better organized for ease of two-dimensional painting but just a personal Avatar that you're going to 3d paint that's fine

[night trout]

yeah, this is just for personal stuff

[azure rain]

then yeah you're good to go as everything looks evenly scaled and uses up most of the the space

[night trout]

i feel like i should go for 2k textures
just because it looks a bit too pixel-ly

[azure rain]

yeah a single 2K color would be fine for pc

[mild thicket]

Hey guys there's this spider bot I'm trying to rig up. I just recently started and what I learned was thanks to YouTube XD

[night trout]

got the base colours set up
just gotta line out the markings

nvm because texture paint is just
buggy

[night trout]

fuck me i am
struggling

[primal beacon]

that's good, you are only learning when it hurts

[atomic hamlet]

You're almost there!

[night trout]

yee!!

[atomic hamlet]

Only thing that'll be left to do after that is making shapekeys for expressions and lip-sync. But that is entirely optional if you don't mind the eyes not blinking and jaw-flap looks decent enough to you.

[night trout]

yeah!
plus i have the jaw bone rigged up so making expressions and what not should be easier

also are emmissive textures fine to have on an avatar?

[calm goblet]

you can have paint masks in mixer, you have been able to for ages

the thing i'm not keen on with mixer is the brush engine, it's not good

[atomic hamlet]

Yes. Just be careful with the HDR values, you can easily blind someone in worlds that have bloom.

[night trout]

oh trust me, i have it set to 1

[atomic hamlet]

You might need to have the eyes be emissive as well depending on what shader you are going to use in-game, or your fake eyetracking might become obvious under certain lighting conditions.

[night trout]

im probably gonna use a toon shader, but yeah i'll keep that in mind

[calm goblet]

this meant to be for vrc?

wrong server lol thought this was blender

if you're going for that flatshade thing and using poiyomi to do all the shading you probably should use some emission so you don't get natural shadows trhough

[spiral sigil]

trying to make some weird thing of the creeper. from jeepers creepers

[spiral sigil]

i just realized the lines was going down. well fuck my life

[potent glade]

👀 Is Grease Pencil a viable approach to making avatars? (since you can convert it to mesh)

[quaint jasper]

Not really, if you have 2d skills you'd much rather make proper tracing sheet for the model

[devout scroll]

Not the right channel for this, try #user-support-old

[spiral sigil]

Oh Sorry...

[calm goblet]

it's a very viable tool for making some parts, like if you wanna make belts, hair, sashes, things like that you can draw it on with grease pencil, convert to curve, give it some thickness and convert to geo

makes it almost work like an IMM curve brush in zbrush

[spiral sigil]

I hope you decimate that 😄

[night trout]

decided to change the eyes a bit, mostly making them a bit smoother

also
dunno if i should keep the current eye UV's since i smoothed them a bit

[night trout]

actually

unsubdivved it to keep the model consistant

some other changes
eyes are now emmissive

[night trout]

also made the model alot less shiny

[languid fog]

80% of the avatars in vrc be like:

[atomic hamlet]

I'd also make the eye sockets a bit smoother as well if you can, they look too low-poly compared to the eyes now.

[night trout]

oh, thats why i unsubdivided the eyes

[atomic hamlet]

Oh, I didn't see that message lol.

[thorny ivy]

You forgot boolean spam

[languid fog]

oh no pls

yameroo

[spiral sigil]

tried to texture my own jacket

[spiral sigil]

the sussy man him self.

[calm goblet]

oh don't forget all the people thinking it's fine to decimate a character model

[languid fog]

Tris goes brrrr

[nimble lotus]

Did any one make a phottogramatry thing of their own head for use on an avatar?

[untold schooner]

the only time i decimated a full on character is for the halloween contest because i couldnt be bothered retopping it just to be excellent on quest

[calm goblet]

lol i did the retopo for my one

when you're doing a full character in 5k tris you just can't let RNG place your edgeflow, how the fuck are you gonna get good deformations without doing it properly

for higher polygon limits i've used zremesher on simple bits, cause i wasn't being paid enough to spend the extra hours on retopo though lol

[untold schooner]

i simply didnt care because back then nobody played on quest

now i either use the multires modifier before i even add detail or i just use quad remesher

[calm goblet]

you don't retopo properly at all? lol

[untold schooner]

well if i use multires i have no need to

[calm goblet]

quad remesher though 😛

[untold schooner]

i use quad remesher for static objects that wont bend in any way

it sometimes can get it right but usually doesnt

[calm goblet]

usually it does a pretty good job as long as you're using the controls properly lol

but even with it being very good, it isn't final topo

great for mid-flow cleanup so you can work easier, and good for when someone juist isn't paying you enough to do a proper job

[untold schooner]

i havent done a hand retop in months since i usually make one-offs in a few hours and dont care enough/dont have time

[calm goblet]

a few hours?

[untold schooner]

and/or also hard surface stuff that isnt sculpted and isnt high poly

[untold schooner]

not a lot to show for but this is the last character model i made which was around 5/6 hours

[thorny ivy]

If you're doing retopo with core blender tools then its understandable lol

[spiral sigil]

yeah dunno which channel to post this in. but my dumbass accidently clicked X on the thing that lets you change everything. anyone know how to reopen it?

in substance painter

[vivid crater]

should be at the top under window > views > properties

@spiral sigil

[spiral sigil]

alright

[spiral sigil]

yeah uh where is that? im pretty new to substance

[vivid crater]

uh at the very top like next to file and edit and stuff, theres a window one

[spiral sigil]

damn thanks!

[vivid crater]

i close that damn thing on accident all the time

[night trout]

this a good blink?

[cinder cradle]

it looks ok but you could make a eyelid so it shows in shapekey

would look even more natural

but that blink is ok so you don't have to

[night trout]

i mean i can try and make an eye lid

although idk what the best way to go about that would be since ive already done the model and all

[cinder cradle]

like i said if you don't want to bother with it than don't

[night trout]

aight

[night trout]

decided to add an extra loop to kind of help create the effect of an eyelid

[cinder cradle]

yes that looks more natural

[thorny ivy]

2 more loops would help a bit with transitions

[night trout]

where would i put those?

[thorny ivy]

Around the eyes

So like above the loop that represents the edge of the eyelid

Then when it moves you'll retain curvature of the eyeball a bit

[night trout]

like this?

@thorny ivy

[thorny ivy]

Even out the spacing a bit of those loops

Select an edgeloop then use edge slide to evenly space them

Double press G for that

[night trout]

that better?

[thorny ivy]

Ah much cleaner

[night trout]

wtf
for some reason my shape keys just decided to fuck up alot of things on my model

anyone know how to fix it?

[cinder cradle]

check if something on uv isn't inside something else

[night trout]

nope, nothin

ok, managed to fix it

and i guess it might be because i added loops for the eyes

[languid fog]

Boots :D

[thorny ivy]

@night trout yeah if you edit the mesh shapekeys break

Making shapekeys should be the very last thing to do

[spare hound]

Imma ask here,
How can i convert .fbx to .vrm ive done the whole unity proccess multipule times never worked, also the kitsune vrm export addon for blender is broken so yeah.

[dense granite]

Making my first model, all was well until after I finished the ears, then I turned the model and found a massive spike going through her head 😭😭 I see that the points are messed up but it won’t let me move them when I select, any way to solve this or will she just have some holes?

[spiral sigil]

thats an F

thats why i sculpt

[devout scroll]

depends on what's going on. you should be able to move it but it looks like you might have joined some verts.
your model is simple enough that you could just delete that vertex and fill up the new holes

after deleting use E to extrude and move the new vertex into the mirror point in the center so it gets joined

[spiral sigil]

or just fill

[devout scroll]

then select the edges and fill

with F

[rain fjord]

in blender some faces of my object are showing up in the render, how do i fix that?

[devout scroll]

you need to select two edges to fill and if you select perpendicular edges it will fill a triangle between them

[devout scroll]

can you post a screenshot

[devout scroll]

you mean the sharp edge look?

right click and shade smooth

then go to mesh tab (upside down triangle) and under normals enable auto smooth

[rain fjord]

it is shaded smooth

[devout scroll]

do it again

might help

altho the way you can only see half makes me think there's maybe double geometry in there or something

can you post an edit mode screenshot

[devout scroll]

yeh should be good once you enable auto smooth and play with the angle value

[rain fjord]

nope, faces still showing

[devout scroll]

try to select everything, M and merge by distance with a really low value in case you have overpaying geometry

it might also just be bad normals

try recalculating normals

[rain fjord]

what would u choose for the merge by distance value?

[devout scroll]

if that doesn't work try selecting the parts that look sharp and normals > set from faces

just type 0

it will set to lowest value

[rain fjord]

didn't work

[devout scroll]

i might be missing something simple then, i dunno

[valid adder]

first time 3d modeling

[spiral sigil]

attempting to make a human head

tryna to improve my skills by modelling a human head. using ZERO references

[calm goblet]

you'll not improve at all if you don't use refs

[spiral sigil]

well. i dont like using refs if its something like this. or those monsters. i only use refs if its something like snotty boy. and im not going to post it cause its embarrassing. but i have improved alot from my last human model.

[calm goblet]

if you don't use refs how are you gonna know what you fucked up?

you have nothing to compare to

and as a beginner you don't have the visual library built up to compare to anything in your own head (which is likely to be a bit off anyway)

the fact that you don't have any of the structure of the skull there, the mouth and nose look drawn on, and you're only showing an ortho view instead of showing the whole thing in a few angles so you're probably missing a whole load of other things that're just hidden

[spiral sigil]

wdym drawn on

[primal beacon]

Gotta use refs my dude

[calm goblet]

i mean you took the clay brush and just drew a mouth on

you didn't build the forms of the mouth, you don't have any of the base structures that make up the head, nothing you actually need to build to make a good looking human head

[spiral sigil]

thats incorrect but

[calm goblet]

that's how it looks

[eternal mica]

Hey, I am 3D student, not using references is doing nothing for you, this video by two industry veterans will explain why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N0C5mTZrLY

[thorny ivy]

Basically you can't know the ins and outs of a shape all the time

[calm goblet]

any good artist can tell you why not using refernces is a dumb idea lol

[quaint jasper]

Yeah, all it does is literally making you a worse artist

[thorny ivy]

No reference is fine if you've made the exact same thing for 20 years

[untold schooner]

i mean if you’re freestyling something off the top of your head i guess it’s fine!

but for something that is supposed to look like something specific yeah you need reference if you want to be accurate

[calm goblet]

why would you not want references to give you ideas?

[untold schooner]

i would

you would

he for some reason wouldn’t

[calm goblet]

there is one time i can agree with not using refs though

2 times actually

if you're trying to test yourself, see where you're really weakest and just wanna sculpt/draw/paint something from memory

or if you just wanna come up with a bit of a freeform base to then refine into something proper with refs later

[untold schooner]

usually the latter

personally

[calm goblet]

i do both

but i never really start anything serious without having my refs open

[night trout]

tbh i only use refs if im 3d modelling characters and if i actually wanna draw something cool
otherwise i just freeform stuff

[calm goblet]

then you're not gonna improve much, but if that's not a problem for you go ahead lol

[night trout]

Oh well, it works for me tbh ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[primal beacon]

btw pureref is real handy for managing/arranging reference boards, especially on projects that take days/weeks - https://www.pureref.com/

[potent glade]

Even the great Kim Jung Gi uses reference, using references isn't cheating, plagiarism is cheating.

[spare hound]

I have a question that hasnt been answered yet. a.

[rain fjord]

how do stop faces from showing in the render, shade smooth isn't working

[night trout]

im not too sure how imma make mouth shapekeys with the jaw bone i made

[spiral sigil]

makning some weird angry old guy

[night trout]

managed to figure it out

[night trout]

nvm because it just
breaks my weight painting

[cinder cradle]

it breaks it bcs probably you have headbone weightpainted to jaw

and it fights with jaw bone

make jaw bone parented to head and weightpaint jaw to it only

[night trout]

i mean like
it breaks all the weight paints

[cinder cradle]

wdym 😮

[night trout]

what was happening was that when i rotated a bone slightly, more mesh would move when the weight paint should be allowing?
but somehow its now fixed?

now its happening again???

[cinder cradle]

it happens when you add jaw bone?

[night trout]

nope, making shapekeys using the rig

[atomic hamlet]

Disable all your shapekeys to make sure none of them are causing that. And next time ensure that all bones are in the rest position before making shapekeys from bone deformations (select all bones with A, then Alt + R, Alt + G, and Alt + S to reset all of the transforms).

[rain fjord]

any help?

[spiral sigil]

is there blue lines when u go in edit mode?

[rain fjord]

nope

[quaint jasper]

Do you have auto smooth enabled ?

[rain fjord]

yes

[quaint jasper]

what is it set to

[rain fjord]

50

[quaint jasper]

Try doing that and it'll reset it, then try smooth shading again

[rain fjord]

didn't work

[quaint jasper]

No idea then, probably worth duplicating the tube in your image that doesn't have the issue and use that instead

[rain fjord]

i created a new one and got the same problem

[night trout]

man my shoulder weight paints kinda suck ass lmao

[night trout]

hehehehehehehehehhehe

longthie

[spiral sigil]

haha funny squid game guy

[eternal jetty]

In Blender, is there a way to copy a mesh's vertex coordinates to paste into another project? Basically, I used the CATS addon and it scrambled all my faces when importing to unity. I have no idea how to fix it but one submesh in it I want to note the dimensions to paste to a clean copy. Basically, I moved around faces and vertices on this piece of clothing and i cant do it again the same lol.
so i need to basically copy the coordinates of the verticies to apply it to the unedited version on the other project

[devout scroll]

if it's messed up in unity your export settings are likely just different

if you're replacing the fbx of your old mesh in unity

[hexed ivy]

if anyone might have some idea... i'm trying to export a rigged mesh and it's giving me this error. please ping

[craggy lintel]

https://gyazo.com/673378756af07ec35cc64e84c70fa6fd

not sure what to do here

so

bascially

I did everthing to fix ghost weights

but somehow there are verts still tracking even though ive normalized, normalized all, deleted, renamed, did everthing to the groups

wtf

I think my blender is broke

im on 2.83 so it's old now

[subtle scroll]

Can I have some critique

I know this isn’t great

[still wadi]

It isn't great

[rain fjord]

any help with faces showing? shade and auto smooth isn't working

[subtle scroll]

Rawdog, you probably have to add more seams

To make it look smoother

Even if you use the smooth shade option, it might look like that if you don’t have a lot of seams

You can also add a subdivision modifier

And increase it

It will however increase your polygon count I think

[subtle scroll]

Can you tell me more what specifically

I know it sucks dude Lmao

[rain fjord]

@subtle scroll yeah i don't want any more poly's, and why seams if it isn't textured yet?

[subtle scroll]

Not those kinda of seams

Like more seams of vertices

That’s going to be challenging making it smooth

Try the smooth tool ? Did you try that

Out of curiosity

[spiral sigil]

make sure you remove custom split normals if it's coming from an internet models

[rain fjord]

i did

[spiral sigil]

also try right click shade smooth and uncheck auto smooth, if not working then it's custom split normal or hard edges

to remove any sharp edges go edit mode click a then CTRL+E then hit clear sharp

[rain fjord]

by hard edges do u mean marked sharp edges? if so there isn't any

[spiral sigil]

make sure nothing is in here, if there is click clear

[rain fjord]

dude i just said i already did that

[craggy lintel]

what can you do

[rain fjord]

@spiral sigil i also have autosmooth off too

[spiral sigil]

it just looks like a cylinder, just recreate a new one?

[craggy lintel]

ppl talk shit and they themselves are garbage

im sick of it

fuck

[spiral sigil]

o - o

[craggy lintel]

bunch of gd assholes. every fucking one

everyone is selfish

[rain fjord]

tried that too, same problem

[spiral sigil]

which shading mode are you in?

try to restart blender too, this isn't an ormal behaviour

a freshly created cylinder should be able to be smoothed

[rain fjord]

the pic i showed is in render

[spiral sigil]

go to solid view mode

and check if it happens

activate backface culling

[spiral sigil]

people can critique the work of other people even if they can't do better ? what matters is improving in the end, not the ego

if you can't detach yourself from what you create as an artist you're fooked basically

[craggy lintel]

this isnt what im talking about

everyone thinks they're a genius. everyone thinks they're the best and everyone else is shit.

then they go critique to talk down to others.

i have everything anyone could wish for.

I never never NEVER talk down to people. it sickens me.

[spiral sigil]

you should just take a break dood and let it flow honestly

[subtle scroll]

I am okay with honest criticism but I need more specifics lmao

I supposed in a way you have to take the good and the bad together

I’m not mad I am going to ignore the trolls

[craggy lintel]

criticism doesnt = talking down

[subtle scroll]

As one should

[craggy lintel]

criticism = help

[craggy lintel]

here's a great tip, just scale on X axis and make buttons larger

Scale down

[subtle scroll]

Ah okay

Thank you

[craggy lintel]

this will fix the look 100%

[spiral sigil]

okay i'll give the feedback
the geometry is too apparent , it would need more poly!
I think it is very flat, you maybe modeled it in front view mostly ? The shading looks incorrect so my guess would be that the curves aren't very smooth
you would need to learn about smoothing group in addition to subdivide your geometry properly to get a nice end render !
however IMO this isn't a terrible try, you're probably beginning i'd say! just do some more and you'll get it better and better each time! 😄

[subtle scroll]

Aw hey I appreciate that

I’m a super beginner! Lolol

Thank you @spiral sigil

[craggy lintel]

its good to start low poly

i wouldnt start high

[subtle scroll]

Thank you good

[craggy lintel]

Try sculpting with dyntopo, make it perfect with a ref, and then remesh via quad remesh

okay smartass

[still wadi]

see

the joke was

https://i.imgur.com/UoAhMQr.png

he said

ia lready know it isn't great

and then i type

[craggy lintel]

were they asking for a joke?

[still wadi]

it isn't great

[craggy lintel]

no

[still wadi]

funny

[craggy lintel]

so stfu

[spiral sigil]

please get out of this channel you two it's about getting better not debating for your egos

[craggy lintel]

troll

[spiral sigil]

sheesh

[craggy lintel]

i dont have an ego anymore.

egos need to be destroyed

idgaf about myself