3d-modeling

[calm goblet]

you have a blockout, what's wrong with it?

[thin shadow]

As long as it works

[median pike]

well why arent you using it?

[solemn ruin]

I use this ONLY for modeling the character, then I go to blender to add up maps, then procreate to color it, and lastly everything else is blender and unity

My models are normal, it’s just a different way, I made a avatar before and know what I’m doing

[median pike]

yeah but

why mention blender if you dont use blender for sculpting?

I am just confused

[solemn ruin]

Ah sorry, I was being sarcastic because I would like to use it one day to model

[median pike]

so why dont you use it?

[solemn ruin]

I would, but I don’t have the time for it right now

I struggled enough with buying the programs on my iPad, so why not put it to good use?

[median pike]

because you said you wanna use blender? I mean, the only way to learn it is to use it

[solemn ruin]

Sorry if I’m being unclear, I’m not sure if you’re understanding me

[median pike]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[thin shadow]

Blender is free though

[solemn ruin]

i know, read this "I use this ONLY for modeling the character, then I go to blender to add up maps, then procreate to color it, and lastly everything else is blender and unity"

[spiral sigil]

They were jus makin a funni

[solemn ruin]

thank you

[long hatch]

@quaint jasper so i got it but for some strange reason its not work idk if maybe i got the wrong one or what. i got the fbx coverter 2013.3 cause its whe first one that popped up. for some reason tho when i click and drag the file into the coverter nothing happens

[quaint jasper]

You tried manually importing instead of dragging the file ?

[long hatch]

it doesnt pop up in there for some reason

[quaint jasper]

I can do it for you if you still haven't managed to do it

[long hatch]

yeah could i pm u?

[cyan plover]

i feel you lmao

[spiral sigil]

hey i feel like i've been running around in circle on trying to fix this, i've been a bit nervous about using blend shapes because this happens any time the character bends over and alot of the videos that talk about using blendshapes say you need to go to the keyframe where the clipping is happening or turn it one when the key frame needs to be used

(also i'm not the best at weight painting i did it was a complete failure)

[quaint jasper]

Not worth using blendshapes for that, either weight paint more gradually, or delete the under mesh

[spiral sigil]

Thanks I’ll try it out next time I’m at my computer

[cyan plover]

where do you find the converter?

[solemn ruin]

so, im gonna remake my stickmen model now, and damn this is looking nicer in blender!

plus now i can add expressions

[foggy granite]

That’s nice

But I recommend looking up some face edge flow

[solemn ruin]

thank you

like this @foggy granite ?

[foggy granite]

Mainly look at the eyes

[solemn ruin]

ah

[solemn ruin]

any tips for making bodies not look blocky
other than subdivision

[dusty heron]

Right click > Shade Smooth

[solemn ruin]

no, i meant the body shape, sorry i wasnt clear

[dusty heron]

Oh, sorry, no then.

[icy jungle]

its more about topology also, make the loops around the body. as is now i can tell this is from a cube

https://3dtotal.com/tutorials/t/maya-modeling-modeling-the-torso-jahirul-amin-character-human#article-we-continue-to-build-our-character-by-fleshing-out-the-torso

i know its a maya guide, but the idea is still the same in terms of block out and topology loops

[signal summit]

Does anyone know how to make a layer painting effect in blender?

[solemn ruin]

thank you!

[icy jungle]

👍

[solemn ruin]

yeah my topology sucks but ill get better along the way

[quaint jasper]

looks pretty good tbh

[supple lake]

working on the eyes finally...

[solemn ruin]

stayed up the whole night because im not going to take a break on this vr model

[solemn ruin]

it looks nice! i love the style you have

[solemn ruin]

scary

[thorny ivy]

Do ya plan to use shaders that emulate the classic white outline some of the old stick figures have?

[radiant harness]

oh wow my goodness

is this where a place where i can ask for help for my avatar model, for vr chat

[languid fog]

Yes

[radiant harness]

ahhh yessssss ive come to the right place

well mainly if i find that im stuck on a certain step ill post it in here for anyones opinion and advice on this plan

[full ice]

Unless your having issues with the 3d modeling part, you should take your help questions to #avatar-help for SDK3

[radiant harness]

gotcha buddy , thank you

[solemn ruin]

oh like shuriken the animator?

[merry cedar]

Oh god.. ive now officially spent three times more time on making my character rather than actually playing the game

[spiral sigil]

only 3? heh

[merry cedar]

Im currently making the base model

Maybe ill finish it before i die

[thorny ivy]

Correct. It'd also help the avatar stand out against darker environments and have a clear outline against most surroundings as well.

[rare falcon]

hello, i have a question regarding testing a world i made? im practicing in blender and i get a popup for microsoft store to look for an app to open it with... i have vr chat downloaded but it doesn't seem to be recognized for some reason.

[drowsy cloud]

Hey guys, I’m currently in planning to start building my own avatars and as much as I will use YouTube, you cannot ask questions to YouTube, so I was wondering if someone with decent knowledge of the avatar business could dm me so I could plan a little time to ask questions and build a quick avatar with them just to help me start off! Thanks a lot guys and I hope not to be asking too much

[sweet jacinth]

Hello. I wanted to ask if someone can tell me why this happens or what it means. For some reason i can't join meshes anymore because of that. I am kinda new in blender and don't even know how i would need to look this up. Thank you!

[surreal flame]

What exactly is the problem?

[sweet jacinth]

Well The mesh is shown outside and inside the armature. Like on the picture. This causes me not being able to join these meshes with the ones inside the armature.

[surreal flame]

I think you can't join them because one of the meshes is hidden.

[sweet jacinth]

Well that the issue here.... Kinda. I was always able to easily attach a mesh to a new armature but then this started happening. It's hard to describe. It just stays outside the armature now but still kinda shows in hidden inside of it.

[supple lake]

Thanks guys! As some of u may know from reading my many previous whinings regards to really slooow cellular broadband, I'm happy to report these have become at least somewhat trivialized (as long as I am able to schedule downloads in advance of my available freetime). In the process of getting there also updated Python and PIP as well as Homebrew (the missing package manager for Mac). These in addition to Xcode tools for Command Line (installed with Visual Basic for mac) I downloaded and installed last week. Handy things to have ready (for Unity) when the time comes...

For the moment with Blender I'm now able follow the tutorial (downloaded for offline work) without any lag or interuption.
I'm celebrating with Starbucks Christmas Coffee! 🎄 ☕
https://twitter.com/CreditAnalytica/status/1460006773985796102?s=20

R(pi)TH.☆*.’✧(¬‿¬ )Mac⛰ (@CreditAnalytica)

My #Tutorial stream was insanely slow due to poor mobile connectivity so... yt-dlp and IINA from #Github for offline work, Solved! Multitasking now, an eye study for adding #Blender image reference while installing #Homebrew from terminal. #CharacterDesign #GameDev #3DCGデザイナ

Twitter · Nov 14, 2021, 10:08 PM

[surreal flame]

Have you tried renaming the meshes so they aren't duplicates?

[foggy granite]

That because the mesh is parented to the armature you can clear the parent with ctr+p, I'm pretty sure if not it's shift+p or just p

[sweet jacinth]

Thanks for the help! Tho this wasn't the issue apparently? I realized the new mesh was just outside the collection. I didn't notice until a few minutes ago. Just dragging it it solved it.

[foggy granite]

Ok

Glad you figure it out

[languid fog]

First time doing a chibi model, i just hate the face part ;-;

[quaint jasper]

clean !

[foggy granite]

i love that the face looks mildly disturb by something who know what it could be probably a cringe moment of its past

[languid fog]

deep...

[pine raft]

https://tenor.com/view/hat-kid-dance-dancing-smug-cartoon-gif-22126176

[quaint jasper]

Is the model symmetrical ?

[pine raft]

Nop

For clothin, not worth it

The proportions of said cloth are.

I spent 4 hours working making sure it looked nice.

[quaint jasper]

alright, asked since it looked like the folds and bumps seemed to be on the same spot on each side, but it looks nice nonetheless !

[maiden charm]

Anyone got a good tip for this beginner about how to remove parts of a model in blender? I got two models and only need the hat from them, but everything's connected.

Also, how best to add bones to one of the hats once I get it separated?

[obsidian jungle]

Easiest way to put blendshapes on very low poly avatars?

Talking wise, its looking terrible lol because

[quaint jasper]

Put your cursor on a hat vertex in edit mode and press L

or select a vertex and ctrl + L

[quaint jasper]

2D blendshapes usually

[obsidian jungle]

hmm

[maiden charm]

Alrighty. Any good ways to add bones to it? I've never added bones to anything before.

[quaint jasper]

There's lots of very simple tutorials on how to rig something in blender

it's like three steps

[maiden charm]

Ok, thank you.

[timid heath]

Anyone wanna show a plebian how to get a skeleton to move the model in a normal looking way?

[quaint jasper]

Plenty of very good tutorials on youtube for the first steps

feel free to ask in #avatar-rigging for help on specific steps though

[spiral sigil]

I need help with something, I use bases, modeling its out of my league yet, but for some reason in blender this asset dont show even with the show Icon enabled, in unity it does, but on blender dont, any idea on how to force show? cus I cant even edit nor sculp the asset

[visual vigil]

https://twitter.com/HexeArtz/status/1460874265964732416

Junos 🔞 (@HexeArtz)

CATFISH Mecha!!!!

Twitter · Nov 17, 2021, 7:35 AM

[past vale]

Pregnant? 😳

[thin shadow]

completely normal phenomenon

[spiral sigil]

I dont think I understand what im looking at

[visual vigil]

No

[visual vigil]

I made a stylized mech that's catfish themed

[spiral sigil]

is the chest the face??

[median pike]

having fun with expressions

[visual vigil]

The face of the "catfish". The hatch area with the tiny arms is the pilot controls. The "head" is an AI control package

[spiral sigil]

breuh

[devout scroll]

does look kinda pregnant ngl

[spiral sigil]

thats where all the turret shells are stored

[obsidian jungle]

Wait how btw? Like with images?

I also have eyes but not only they are low poly

They are attached together

[quaint jasper]

faces that go in and out of the head for shapekeys

[obsidian jungle]

Like an infinity sign, which i need to separate somehow

Ah gotcha, somewhat lol

[quaint jasper]

there are tutorials on youtube for that, vrchat specific ones

[obsidian jungle]

i'm guessing you have different keywords because i can't find any videos that are "on topic"

[quaint jasper]

https://youtu.be/ZB2aXKkwXuA

[merry cedar]

Is this already too many for vrchat?? Im only at the base model

[spiral sigil]

Hard to gauge how well you did for the detail you have on your model, but it generally is pretty/really good to have 28k tris with just the entire base model done

As long as you keep it under 70k Tris for PC you are doing GREAT

[quaint jasper]

For quest yes, but for PC no, very poor limit is 70k

[merry cedar]

ah ok i see

Still missing the head tho :/

[spiral sigil]

The finished product on Quest ideally would be below 20k Tris

well technically 15k

[merry cedar]

well i guess they wont see me then xd

[spiral sigil]

15k is medium which is at the top of the default autoshow setting for quest (Excellent to Medium). Most Quest users set it up to Poor (sub 20k Tris), which is the highest wich they can go (Excellent to Poor). If its over 20k, which is very poor, then they have to show it manually either way

[surreal flame]

I find there are lots of Quest users so taking the effort to make a slimmed down version for them is worth it I think.

[merry cedar]

well i hope im not gonna go over 70k... this is my first model after all. i dont want to spend weeks making this and then find out it has too many polys

[spiral sigil]

You can just make a decimated version in post for Quest

[surreal flame]

I'd suggest making use of normal mapping.

[spiral sigil]

Remember, the avatars you upload to the PC pipeline for a given avatar can be completely DIFFERENT than the avatar on the Quest pipeline

meannning you can just upload a decimated, generally more optimized version of it to Quest/Android, and upload the normal one on PC

but if you can optimize anything without losing quality then do that whenever you can

[merry cedar]

ok got it

youre so helpful thanks!

[spiral sigil]

np

[azure rain]

and for reference dissolving Edge Loops tend to make much more clean results than using the decimate modifier as making the lower poly version for the quest

[spiral sigil]

Yee

very simple statagey

[oak hatch]

Y'all, I'm adding bone constraints for my avatars abs and it's hilarious how much of a difference it makes.

[thin shadow]

It looks like it’s already being made

[spiral sigil]

I'm working on a quest optimised Carlos from re3 I've rigged it and then when combining materials it went like this

Anyone know a fix?

[thin shadow]

could be missing texture because of undefined path, or UVMap name conflict

[spiral sigil]

No but it is definitely good practice to always reduce edge loops wherever you don't need it to hold the shape. It feels good keeping it down

[quaint jasper]

Make sure the alpha on material settings isn't maxed, sometimes happen

[spiral sigil]

I believe the texture file was something like .dds

[surreal flame]

Looks like the hair was done using transparent cards and merging the materials made everything else transparent too. The other materials didn't have transparency or even alpha perhaps.

[spiral sigil]

it looks like someone used CATS and has no idea how it works so they r confusion

[surreal flame]

To be honest I find CATS a bit too unreliable for any serious work. But maybe I'm just an idiot.

[spiral sigil]

same

manual is the way to go

it causes issues on p much every model i worked with

when it worked it left so much empty space on the atlas

[surreal flame]

Yes I had the same exact experience recently.

CATS also makes the armature transparent in object mode and I have no clue how to revert it.

[thin shadow]

it depends, cats can be useful if everything is according to plan. But if not, then manual intervention is needed.

[surreal flame]

I believe I've never actually found a use case for it so far. Either the result was not as expected or it just threw an error and messed things up.

Except for the "Apply as rest pose" button. That's practical. But I'm too lazy to look up how it's done outside of CATS so eh.

[thin shadow]

convert those texture to png

[spiral sigil]

Its for beginners mainly ig

but then they have to work with problems they wouldnt have if they learned to manually atlas

[oak hatch]

CATS is such a absolute jackhammer of a tool sometimes.

Useful, but don't try to make crown molding with it.

[spiral sigil]

I use it when I feel like it, it makes pose mode simpler sometimes

But I started using the pie menu too recently so yeah tab for pie menu is better than tab for edit

[merry cedar]

Do hanging ropes work in vrchat? Like when an object hangs on a rope

[oak hatch]

@merry cedar depends on a lot of factors and what you're willing to do.

[spiral sigil]

Done that but I got the same result

[surreal flame]

Try looking into your material settings -> Blend Mode and Alpha parameter of the Principled shader. Assuming Cycles.

[spiral sigil]

Short answer, no, long answer, yes?

[merry cedar]

Uh so im kinda confused

So objects like hoodie strings dont work then?

[spiral sigil]

You can easily dynamic bones on a mesh or other animating methods to make your hoodie strings dynamic yes and soonTM vrchat itself will have its own physbones solution

[merry cedar]

ah ok thanks

[spiral sigil]

The key word to google here would be "Dynamic Bones" to purchase the unity asset, it is white listed in VRChat.

[spiral sigil]

I end up using that feature alot

[merry cedar]

Cant i just use the dymanic bone system in blender? Or does the unity one work better

[spiral sigil]

It's a different system

[foggy granite]

You can’t import blender physics into unity

Same as the other way around

[spiral sigil]

Im sure somebody invented a way to port blender physics you can import blender animations

The vr game I used to work on used blender for the animations and unity was the game engine.

[thorny ivy]

Physics are part of the engine the model is in

[ashen stag]

When you export an fbx from blender you can include animations. You could do something with physics in blender, record it into an animation, export the fbx with the animation, apply the animation to an identical fbx in unity

This obviously is only for hardcoded animations, cant do it for something that has to be reactive or procedural

[thorny ivy]

Fbx can store alembic?

[quaint jasper]

alembic stores alembic

[ashen stag]

Alembic is its own thing isnt it? Fbx just stores animations

[spiral sigil]

I have no clue what an alembic is

[visual vigil]

What would be better for a chain rope performance wise. Unity rigid body or dynamic bones? Dynamic bones you can have everything as one mesh while IIRC for unity rigidbody, each chain link needs to be its own seperate object

[unkempt torrent]

I'm not sure, but do you really need each link in the chain to have its own physics? Both are bad, generally speaking

[naive bolt]

help i've textured the whole thing but it's not showing up when i do shading

does anyone have a solution or a video i can watch?

oh i figured it out

[rose wedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/908425949303930891/911140299034751006/TheBeachEpisode.png

The beach episode

[devout scroll]

neat

[unkempt torrent]

How can I move vertices symmetrically around an axis at the same time?

[surreal flame]

Could you elaborate a bit?

[spiral sigil]

https://youtu.be/2RADeCcafCI

Alternatively https://youtu.be/IVHoVRy-f9Y

Depending on what you actually mean

[calm goblet]

plug it into a principled bsdf

not straight into the output

[naive bolt]

Oh nvm

I just had diff objects i had to apply to

It worked with and without the principled bsdf

So much to learn 😅

Only issue i have is with clothes rn. I have to learn how to make it move with the character bones

[supple lake]

I’m really interested in some kind of Mocap to use with Unity and/or Blender but they’re so expensive, Perception Neuron etc.,
I wonder if there’s any open source software that could be used with an array of inexpensive accelerometer sensors?

Another question related is there any type of software, mobile app or add-on that can capture motion from video?

[quaint jasper]

If you have full body tracking, you can mocap in vrchat

[supple lake]

iPi Soft with Xbox depth sensors or GoPro RGB cameras is what I find but it’s not working on MacOS

What about copying motion from a video recording or live stream, seems that should be all software no external sensors needed.
I think iPi has a record software for saving live mocap that can then be used to animate characters but I’m wondering if it’s possible to interpret the motion from recorded video like a music video or movie scene? It has to exist I just don’t know what it is?

[languid fog]

you can try apriltags or mediapipepose

[supple lake]

Thank u 🙏 I’ll look into those!

I see Rigimap is an add-on to apply Mocap data to Rigify in Blender, I suppose it could be paired with the outputs from Mediapipe…

[tulip condor]

i found an solution 🙂

[bold urchin]

Beyond laggy Blender project that you've spent a lot of time putting together?
Your blender getting stuck switching between Wire Mesh vs Textured view?
Well, Blender might not be using your GPU to help with rendering your viewport shading.
Why don't you mosey on over to the System settings and change your Window draw method off of Automatic.
See if that helps :)

[languid fog]

1k trys

[tight quartz]

These are only visible behind this view as you can see on the 2nd picture. How can I fix this? I know that I can flip the normals or what it is. But wont that just make so from under its invisible?

[devout scroll]

that just means they're one sided. You'll have to geometry on the other side. Go into edit mode, select everything you want press F3 and search for solidify, then mess with the values to make it thin

[tight quartz]

Aight

Didnt have to mess with the value, looks good as it is.

Thank you

[lapis smelt]

I got a question

Should I download blender

It's gonna be my first moments 3d modeling

[languid fog]

you want to learn 3D? that's your main question m8

[lapis smelt]

Yes

I just want to create models

[obsidian nova]

Then download blender and check out the donut tutorial series on YouTube by the Blender Guru. It’s the best beginner guide.

[lapis smelt]

Ok then

[foggy granite]

Good luck https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa1F2ddGya_-UvuAqHAksYnB0qL9yWDO6

[granite hornet]

Anyone here have solidworks that could help me convert a file to stl?

[scenic cipher]

Hi everyone! I have a bit of a question in concern of animating my avatar. I want to have a belt that has text that goes around it, can anyone assist me with this or link me to a tutorial?

[spiral sigil]

Is anyone good with unity??

[fresh isle]

Not really

Also probably the wrong channel to ask, this is a modeling channel

[languid fog]

https://youtu.be/wenVpxYzd_g

https://youtu.be/Gwy0jjrRpFo

[spiral sigil]

This is cool I'm definitely gonna brush up on this, can never have too little UV tricks

[severe frigate]

can someone help me importa model of blender into vr chat? a friend and I are trying to get the models from a game into vr chat the only problem is that the expresions are textures

[devout scroll]

That's not gonna work with unity and i'm pretty sure that'd be what they want

[languid fog]

UV Animation don't work if you export it to unity?

[devout scroll]

I guess it does depend on the uvs

but there are specialized shaders that just scroll their texture

[languid fog]

ik you can do it with a simple C# script

[devout scroll]

which are not allowed in vrchat

[languid fog]

well, yt saves lives yk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_G8CNALDU8&ab_channel=MubasherAmer

[devout scroll]

Depends on the shader you're using but like if you're using poiyomi you can just pan or use a decal and pan that

[crisp barn]

a friend is getting this error, what does it mean?

[surreal flame]

That's a CATS error and if it does this when they try to test eye tracking that's what I get too and have no idea how to fix it. On top of that it messes up my mesh sometimes.

[zinc jolt]

this is Freddy

I got him today but the post of the latest model came out almost 12 hours ago

He'll be a public avatar

[foggy granite]

hmm i didnt expect hmm being that many tris

[zinc jolt]

Keep in mind it's how he looks

Not everything about him is accurate

[spiral sigil]

Anyone know of any twitch streamers who commonly stream themselves 3d moddeling anime models

its surprisingly hard to find any on twitch but i must be searching the wrong things

[quaint jasper]

Shonzo does

Lyra as well

[spiral sigil]

On it then,

[devout scroll]

yea it's hard to find outside vrc otherwise

[spiral sigil]

I think most just don't feel confident in their own skills to show them

[wicked iris]

Added some hair normalmap texturing

[oak hatch]

Note: I am aware of the neck and head issues. They're being fixed, tomorrow.
That said, some nice cute fancy clothes.
Goal is sub 20k Tris for the whole outfit.

[cosmic merlin]

Uhm, I need a help, how do i fix this thingy? Everytime i put my textures on it does this ON Unity

[oak hatch]

Wat

[oak hatch]

UV fuckery maybe

Czech for any weird overlaps.

[cosmic merlin]

Wait, how?

[naive bolt]

learning 3d modeling and this is a more organized way i came up with to color meshes
good idea or no? xD

putting all the meshes in one seems complicated, and causes issues with coloring, like when they are too close to each other on the texture map

gotta separate them in lil sections, i just hope this causes no issues in the future

[quaint jasper]

Those UV islands in the skin part don't seem good at all, which is why you may be having issues in the first place

https://youtu.be/8qv6DbWr6zw

[naive bolt]

yea i used the smart uv unwrap but i'll try that video, ty!

[quaint jasper]

Definitely don't smart uv unwrap anything organic

[oak cairn]

gonna be putting this cool solar powered e-bike into VRC to educate people on solar powered e-bikes and micro-mobility as i have a collection of 6 of these in real life.

[wary scarab]

@oak cairn love it!

[spiral sigil]

Yeah use UV project and then throw it into substance painter and larp as if your UV's are good 😂

triplanar projection is magic

[devout scroll]

might as well let substance unwrap it for you at that point

but getting some basic uvs isn't that hard so I generally want to unwrap myself

[spiral sigil]

Ive never used substance to unwrap and i usually end up manually unwrapping problematic parts anyway

but if i can avoid manually seaming an unwrapping at any stage i will avoid doing it its a waste of time if i can get it to just werk another way

[spiral sigil]

I seems

[devout scroll]

substance just auto unwraps whatever doesn't have an uv

on import

[thorny ivy]

Speakin' of UVs, finessed three complete knives into just one. Minor overlap for the larger blades but since I ain't sure about resolution scale yet, I can adjust later.

[humble badge]

anyone know the 3d model of rusk 3.0?

[azure rain]

https://booth.pm/ja/items/2559783

[thorny ivy]

Been experimentin' with the Line Art modifier, seems like a faster an' more simple alternative to creatin' a whole Toon Shader but ain't sure if I'm 100% satisfied with the results so far.

[spiral sigil]

I like the effect, its like you beveled every edge and then made those new faces black

unless, is that exactly waht that modifier does?

[exotic parrot]

Trying to use an older version of blender to modify an asset but it keeps giving me "file written by newer blender binary (290.0) expect loss of data"

And the model doesnt show up

[spiral sigil]

Well im going to guess that its telling you to use a more recent version of Blender

since it says the model was 'written'/made in a newer version, so you should go to a newer version to modify it

learning the new 2.8 UI is a pain but pfff you gotta do it one of these days

[oak hatch]

Awww ye. Outfit is 15ktri right now, likely to be around 20k finished, with 40k for body+hair.

[spiral sigil]

nya

[oak hatch]

yeye

[languid fog]

is there a way to join my mesh with the armature without needing to delete my shape keys?

I tried using the "Join Modifiers & Shapes" addon but the adon make the shape keys as a different object

[devout scroll]

just parent your mesh to the armature

[thorny ivy]

It actually utilizes the grease pencil tool, essentially paintin' over certain geo an' usin' em as a guide.

Bit finnicky though an' camera angle/position can greatly influence the visuals.

[devout scroll]

drag it on top of the armature while holding shift or alt or ctrl (i forgot)

in the outliner

then add an armature modifier to your meshes and select the armature in the modifier

that's the long way

the short way is select all meshes, select the armature and then ctrl+P > armature deform (that just does all those steps automatically)

you aren't actually joining anything, you're just telling your meshes to use that armature for deformations and you're parenting them so that they move together as well

[languid fog]

thx

[devout scroll]

Nice model by the way

[languid fog]

thx ^^

29k trys and one Texture (Atlas)

it should work on quest

[quaint jasper]

29k for the quest version ?

[azure rain]

that would be a very poor Avatar so you might want to see if you can dissolve some Edge loops

[languid fog]

noted

[languid fog]

y

[spiral sigil]

anything above 20k Tris/polys is marked Very Poor by the VRCSDK for Quest

so if you plan on having things autoshown shoot for sub-20k

(Context: Quest Autoblocks Very Poor avatars, and Users have to manually unhide them one-by-one)

Most Quest Users up their automatically shown setting to Excellent-Poor (on default its Excellent-Medium), meaning if you can get it between 15k-20k tris and Poor ur gud

if you really want to shoot for the stars and get Medium, go sub 15k tris

[azure rain]

and there's no maxcap on very poor avatars so a quest user might show in Avatar and have them like instantly lag out because you have like two million triangles and 100 materials for all they know

[spiral sigil]

true

why should they believe your avatar isnt that when they get crash targeted relatively often

[languid fog]

Noted

[small valve]

thanks for reminding me that i need to sharpen my chef's knife

and line art mod is cool

id add toon specular to toon knives but thats just me

[thorny ivy]

I'm usin' the default Toon Shader, looked into custom ones but most seem outdated (pre-2.9) at this point.

[spiral sigil]

how does this look? i need some feedback

[azure rain]

there's some black splotches and the lighting looks kind of weird on the left arm

[spiral sigil]

yea tryna fix that rn

The flow is very weird

[azure rain]

https://i.gyazo.com/052fbf8b1bbf2d9265c08cc34bf05024.png

[spiral sigil]

the black spots might be the angle or the mesh just clipping thru its self

tryna see whats with the arm rn

[azure rain]

question could you take a screenshot with the texture turned off to see what's your texturing and what's the model having some weird normals

[spiral sigil]

whats the equavalent of Recalc Normals in Substance heh

[devout scroll]

i don't think you can do that

either there's some import setting or you gotta handle it in blender

[spiral sigil]

the black spots are the dirt

[mystic kernel]

i cant seem to figure out the issue

[azure rain]

probably don't want a dirty shirt

[spiral sigil]

its for the effect

realism

[mystic kernel]

i know it must be something with the normals but i cant figure out what

[azure rain]

I'm not sure how that's particularly realistic for somebody to be wearing a dirty shirt

and the way you have it at the moment it looks like you have baking errors

[spiral sigil]

its hard to explain. i just like it like that

[thorny ivy]

I believe "well-worn" may be more apt then dirty.

[spiral sigil]

the thing that was messing up the arm was the AO map

welp

[mystic kernel]

damn, normals are odd

[devout scroll]

pretty sure i told you what to do at some point

[mystic kernel]

ik

[devout scroll]

you could also try and transfer normals from a sphere

both to the head and to the mouth

sphere roughly covering the head

[mystic kernel]

ok so i tried to do what you said the first time but fell short considering i had no idea what you were talking about

ive been looking into this data transfer thing

[devout scroll]

alright let's see

[mystic kernel]

so you're saying i can transfer the normals of a common blender sphere to possibly fix my issue?

so something similar to this i would suppose?

[devout scroll]

scale it to just cover the head

[mystic kernel]

ah ok

so what do i do from here? is this the part where i use the data transfer modifier on the sphere?

[devout scroll]

so your meshes are joined?

[mystic kernel]

not at the moment

one sec

ok so they are joined whats next?

[devout scroll]

nah hold on

i'm checking myself

[mystic kernel]

oh ok

[devout scroll]

ok let's see if this explains anything

https://puu.sh/IrlbE/4a0e902fbd.mp4

what I was meant to say is that if you have a part of your mesh that's detached the normals will make it look detached

but if you transfer the normals from a copy of the object where everything is joined, it should look joined

you can also transfer normals from a sphere that just about covers your mesh

[mystic kernel]

ah ok i see now

thats where i got lost

[devout scroll]

but as you see if i transfer from a sphere that's on the side, it looks weird so it has to be in the same position as the object

and you need to select the mesh you're transfering from last

you're saying too many things without saying what your problem is

#avatar-help

wrong channel, post there ^

[mystic kernel]

btw why does the mesh become oddly colored upon transferring normals?

better question is will that affect my avatar in unity?

[devout scroll]

shading depends on normals

if it looks odd you might want to play with the settings

in the first example when i transferred from a sphere that was next to the first it looked bad

so i moved it back and scale it up a little bit

[spiral sigil]

attempted a remake, with dirt

with out

[devout scroll]

normals looking a bit weird still in places

[spiral sigil]

which one looks better? i need sum feedback

[devout scroll]

do you have split verticies or something?

[spiral sigil]

its not the normal map its the AO

[devout scroll]

ah right

[spiral sigil]

i think

[devout scroll]

first is too dirty second is a bit too flat imo you could play with the opacity to make the dirt stuff less noticeable

you want some color variation without being too obvious

but i'm really not sure about texturing clothes

kinda hard

[quaint jasper]

it helps having proper UVs

[spiral sigil]

the clothes are from max payne

i just took em from sketchfab

[azure rain]

like the fabric is Flowing really weirdly

[spiral sigil]

and attempted a retex

[quaint jasper]

doesn't mean the UVs are good

[azure rain]

and also the originals might have been hand-painted in a way that worked with the UVs

[quaint jasper]

https://youtu.be/8qv6DbWr6zw

[azure rain]

inside of triplanar projection or UV project your material

[high badge]

hey does anyone know how to make vroid avatars quest compatible?

[azure rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA733GlRwF8

[high badge]

ty

[azure rain]

and something I didn't notice in the tutorial but there's a checkbox to delete transparent triangles so if you erase all the texture under your clothing those triangles will get deleted so you will have less polygons so you can fit the Avatar in a rank better than very poor

[high badge]

i think vroid updated their stuff

[azure rain]

yes they have a new UI now

but like the tips in the tutorial are still quite helpful even if the buttons are in different places

[high badge]

oh okay

ty

[azure rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFoAKjmO4Q4 here's a tutorial that covers where the buttons are in Old tutorials in the new program

[vast canyon]

hello anyone have any idea's how long would this take?

[thin shadow]

depends, it's like social credits system. You behave good, spend time in vrchat, you'll get it soon enough.

[vast canyon]

I sometime play vrchat 😦

[high badge]

ooh coool

ty

[spiral sigil]

i have given it straight lines

[drowsy hound]

is there a place that turns pictures into avatars? because i have never created a 3d model before

[azure rain]

are you wanting like just your IRL self as an avatar or like a particular character

https://readyplayer.me/vrchat

[drowsy hound]

i want to make a gilbert gottfried avatar because i do the voice pretty well

[azure rain]

I suppose you could try a photo of him on that?

[spiral sigil]

mixamo

[short sigil]

Youtube tutorials. There are hundreds

[thin shadow]

Exit import mode first

[oak hatch]

Anyone know of a way to change the blend mode of viewport matcaps in blender?

[fallen orbit]

absolute pain

pls tell me theres a way to make big changes to ur avatar without redoing shape keys over and over again

[still wadi]

shape propagate is what you want

[spiral sigil]

Hi. I'm looking for someone to retopologize a rough 3D model I made for a furry artist I know and love. It's supposed to be for a free VRChat avatar for him, but it needs to be retopologized, so can someone please contact me in case you're interested?

[devout scroll]

select basis, select all the verts you want to be like basis, f3, propagate to shapes

[proud pawn]

can someone help me my rusk cat is not blinking his eyes it just dead fish eye look

[spring condor]

i need help pls

im new to modelmaking and have no clue what im doing

[spiral sigil]

In your unity project click the rusk avatar and go to inspector, under the VRC avatar descriptor put the blink shape keys where they belong I'll take a pic 1 sec

Like so, do note that this blink shapekey is now "posessessed" by the sdk animators and you should clone it for the blinking purposes so you can still animate blinking on your FX layer for gestures

[thorny ivy]

Look up basic tutorials for your modelin' program of choice. VRoid offers pretty quick an' easy customization but you're stuck within a certain style + limited variety.

[mystic kernel]

would there be a way to make a blendshape show at a specific time? ex. instead of the shape key showing at 1.0 it shows at 0.7 or 0.6 but doesnt change past that point

oh nvm i just found out what absolute shape keys are

[proud pawn]

i went to the rusk family discord

[violet hinge]

I'm having issues with new vroid models lip sync/visemes. As in the visemes are differwnt and do not seem to pop up properly. I am using the vroid > blender > unity method

[full ice]

You need to use cats like it seems you are doing to build the visemes out of what is available, which are the single letters, line those up with the sound that Cats is expecting

[violet hinge]

So Basis or A E U I O?

[full ice]

Expand the side panel that cats is using to see the whole name of what cats wants

[violet hinge]

AA, OH and CH .

I'm unsure which of the A E U I O Vroid visemes equates to those

[full ice]

Well, you can test the blendshape in blender to see what the mouth looks like, and take best guess.

[violet hinge]

Okay, still confused on what CH is. Think i got A and O down

[full ice]

I think mouth angry would work? It's been a while since I did vroid

Just test all mouth blendshapes

[azure rain]

https://i.gyazo.com/b6e19cd1edd5b9338f48c9fc240c77df.png

[quaint jasper]

Make a ch sound with your mouth ^

[violet hinge]

I think its MTH U???

[full ice]

You can also build the visemes and test if they all look normal, if not just build again

[violet hinge]

i think its correct

[azure rain]

https://i.gyazo.com/6a10eddb3b034b185fcb97bf8e74c890.png

https://i.gyazo.com/a5e19120c2f16c8f52a3846813081cc0.png

angry or E would work

[violet hinge]

I used U and then tested em. seems okay

[azure rain]

cool

[violet hinge]

time to test in unity ;u;

[azure rain]

hopefully it goes okay

[violet hinge]

can't make eye tracking in blender so welp

[spiral sigil]

where can I find someone to commission a new custom avatar?

[violet hinge]

Fivver, Various Discords. It's pretty broad

Just gonna look through vroid and do the visemes in unity with what i got from vroid

[full ice]

#community-servers-old look for VRC Traders is a good one supposedly

[violet hinge]

Would i need to fill in ALL the viseme slots or leave some empty?

[azure rain]

you would want to fill all the slots

as it would look weird if your mouth randomly stopped moving with some sounds

[full ice]

If you don't fill all then they won't work at all from other people saying they don't have all filed and mouth doesn't work at all

[gray mirage]

D

[spiral sigil]

How would I bake this onto a texture? Its a solid blue emission color material applied to faces that I beveled and inserted around the mesh. It is difficult to decimate with this as its completely dependent on the topo.

[quaint jasper]

If it's a material, then it's a texture, and if it's a texture, it's an emission map

[spiral sigil]

Emission map thats a good idea

How would I go about baking that though?

So I don't have to deal with this soup

cuzz its just a solid colorrrr

[young vault]

Bake it into an emission map if you want it to work like an emissive

[spiral sigil]

But I have no image?

Am I misunderstanding something fundamental?

[azure rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB24ITZHtuE

[spiral sigil]

I think im just dumb I think it worked

[azure rain]

a solid color material setup would also be a procedural material

[spiral sigil]

I just needed to make a image texture for it to bake on

i mean an image

and an image texture node

[azure rain]

yes

[spiral sigil]

it still completely jumbles my patterns reguardless hm

on decimating

I want those patterns to still be there even if the beveled/inserted geometry isnt there, because it won't be after decimating

[azure rain]

you would need to have your pattern be displayed by a texture not material colors

[spiral sigil]

Yeah

imma watch the procedural baking thing

[spiral sigil]

The bake works, but its very blurry and has a streak because I messed up a few verticies on the UV

not sure whats causing it to be blurry

This mesh is the mesh before I beveled it to shreds

ah to hell with it, ill probably be costing more performance by having a fat texture than just a 32x16 solid color atlas

[quaint jasper]

By beveled do you mean subdivided ?

[spiral sigil]

no

let me show you one second

like these patterns ARE the geometry

[oak hatch]

DAY THREE

[spiral sigil]

heh meow

[oak hatch]

It do be like nya

[quaint jasper]

Why do you use cavity

[oak hatch]

So I can see the detail

cause matcap in blender is utter dogwater

[spiral sigil]

imagine even using a matcap

[oak hatch]

counterpoint,

[quaint jasper]

it's great for seeing distorted normals

[spiral sigil]

true those really stand out

why is it blue now

what did you do

[quaint jasper]

nice frills tho

[oak hatch]

I used my gem matcap

Ye, I love the frills

but

that's where like 20% of the polys are

12k triangles in frills

huuuuueeeee

actually not horrible

but that's -half- the clothing budget

[spiral sigil]

whats your tri goal

or limit

[oak hatch]

ideally 60k

max 70k

like max max max

[spiral sigil]

you'll be fineeee

[oak hatch]

I plan for 30k for the body/face, 20 for clothes, then 10k for other stuff

hair etc

the frills are all modifier controlled, to

so of I have to massage some extra tris, I can save around 4k

[spiral sigil]

what modifier(s) do you use for the frills?

[oak hatch]

moment

[spiral sigil]

is it a displacement?

moment?

is that a modifier

[spiral sigil]

oh you meant one moment

heh

that is fancy thinking

can I see the path of the curve?

[oak hatch]

this is the entire petticoat.

[spiral sigil]

my head hurts

[oak hatch]

LMAO

[spiral sigil]

I think I get it..?

let me try something

[oak hatch]

So, array makes them long, curve wraps the longboi on the curvbe

you can do it with tank treads, too

or chainsaws

You can even animate them moving if you're clever

[spiral sigil]

oookay

Curves confuse me so much

[oak hatch]

Next time I stream, I'll do a breakdown of it.

You can cheat, using a polygon as a curve

that's what I did for all of it

Made the cloth parts, duped the polygon out, use that to control the curve

[spiral sigil]

convert mesh to curve?

is that how blender works?

[oak hatch]

yuh

[spiral sigil]

thats gud

[oak hatch]

You think I made all those beizers? LMAO

[spiral sigil]

who knows man

[oak hatch]

I'm crazy, not insane.

[spiral sigil]

people r crazy

well

insane is different yes

[oak hatch]

but ye

funfun

[spiral sigil]

is your twitch the same as your alias here

nevermind

[oak hatch]

yeye

Now, to food, nappe, and maybe VRC tonight.

[spiral sigil]

healthy scheudle

[oak hatch]

normally, yes, but I streamed for 2 hours longer than I planned so I'm burnt

[spiral sigil]

you earned: sleep

enjoy it

[spiral sigil]

I'm making my first avatar and I was wondering if someone could show me the basics of making a model. I want to make my own model instead of finding one online. Also, I don't have any money to spare, if anyone could help for free I'd be grateful.

[oak hatch]

Swing by next time I'm streaming, I'll be doing retopology/sculpting a model.

[spiral sigil]

Uhh.. so. I have unity installed with everything, I'm currently trying to import my first ever free model in so that I can recolor it and import it. Problem is, I have absoloutely NO CLUE what I'm doing.

I have.. no clue how to import things.

[acoustic halo]

is there some simple way to create a separate backface in blender?

[quaint jasper]

Shift + D, Alt + N > Flip

[devout scroll]

or solidify if you want to offset them but that will also create connecting faces

[spiral sigil]

You can turn that off in solidify modifier

fill rim

[obsidian jungle]

So in 3ds max its possible to increase the geometry, or increasing pixels on models, using a plugin for blender its possible to decrease polygons on a model, but what I want to know is it possible to increase the polygons/geometry of a model on blender? And what tutorials show that?

[tight quartz]

Is there a way so I can just see this part so I can weight paint easier?

[thin shadow]

select mesh, separate, hide the other mesh, start weight painting

[tight quartz]

Aah

aight

Ty

[surreal flame]

You can use 'M' during weight painting, then you can Shift or L-select meshes you want or even hide selected geometry using H. But you can't select bones in this mode, you have to turn it off first.

[wicked iris]

Obviously gonna reduce the polycount for multiplayer use.
Full detail will be for solo use

[spiral sigil]

You really made yourself a model set for at least a few years mate heh

once it comes the time tech has advanced where standalone headsets are equvalent to computers now, you can start using your high poly version in public

Cavity is so sexy omg I wish I knew this existed earlier

[spiral sigil]

spot the stubborn bastard

[dusty heron]

My eyes

[foggy granite]

I see it but what are you making

Sense that pretty dense unless your sculpting something

[spiral sigil]

If u see my reference its the wooden blobby bulge

I am making a high poly thing generally yeah

the entire blade atm is 15k tris

[azure rain]

wow that sounds unnecessarily High poly because Normal Maps exist

[spiral sigil]

yeah of course its not the final product kek

Im not that insane

I am going to use this to learn some substance

Right now my computer has been unresonsive for the last 10 minutes because I voxel remeshed at 0.001

[azure rain]

I am not surprised

like that's probably several million maybe even a billion triangles doing it that smell

[foggy granite]

Jeez hope you saved

[spiral sigil]

I did I subcoinsiously control+s

[foggy granite]

Okay that’s good

[spiral sigil]

why does this happen

is this supposed to happen? or a bug

[foggy granite]

Not to sure

[spiral sigil]

I am on Blender 3.0.0 but it was a release canadate

[foggy granite]

Probably a bug then

[thick ocean]

anyone can help me with an issue im having

[full ice]

If you say what it is, someone might.

[devout scroll]

mesh is messed up

i think it's intersecting itself or there's two layers

don't sculpt it if that's what you're trying

it looks like a shape that you can do fairly easily with a subdivided cube

[spiral sigil]

That was originally a cylander that I loopcutted until everything was quads and then sculpted yeah

and then I quad remeshed it to a lower face amount so that I could connect it to the lower part

but yeah ill just proportional edit next time with a cube then

[midnight valley]

does anybody know why my normals are all out of wack in blender. its like a part of them are on the correct side but others are flipped. trying to recalculate them doesnt do anything for some reason :/

[quaint jasper]

reset custom normals ?

[midnight valley]

didnt seem to fix it. used cats blender plugin, most recent update. model was imported as an fbx too

[quaint jasper]

Check your UVs

[midnight valley]

UVs are good as well. very weird glitch. no normal setting seems to change it. it mostly affects the skin and hair. everything else seems to be fine. weird

[quaint jasper]

So it's actually correct with normal orientation display enabled ?

[midnight valley]

says so yeah. its no problem when i turn culling off in unity but i dont know why its doing this in blender. never had it happen before

[spiral sigil]

You arent in an experimental build of Blender right?

It doesn't look like it but to make sure

[midnight valley]

nope. its 2.93 stable

[spiral sigil]

what happens if you go to a face that is broken, dupe and flip normals

try that n see if it looks normal again

[midnight valley]

strange. so when i decided to ignore it and import it to unity normally its fine. but the normals are only messed up in blender

i guess i can make this work. might just need to reinstall blender or something

[spiral sigil]

wha de fook

yeah maybe it got corrupted

insert technical explanation here

make sure you run the installer with admin perms

[midnight valley]

will do. thanks for the help. much appreciated!

[quaint pewter]

Tried to make a shape key to make the eye close in a cartoonish way, and it's ended up like this (using blender 2.9)

Anyone know what may be going on? I've tried snapping, no snapping, and it seems to not want to shape itself how I need it to be

[quaint jasper]

You tried just scaling on the z axis maybe ? What shape are you going for exactly ?

[quaint pewter]

I'm going for an N shape and U shape for emotions, sorta like this ( I couldn't find the N variant)

[quaint jasper]

well you won't be able to bend that face outside properly because it's missing edges

make sure to delete it first and then extrude the edge outside and then merge at center

then you can try proportional editing from the top most vertex and bring the rest down

[quaint pewter]

Hmmm, one moment, let me try that

[quaint pewter]

Okay, after a while, I think I've misunderstood what you meant here. Are you able to explain more in detail?

[quaint jasper]

Which part did you misunderstand ?

[quaint pewter]

Mainly the part with what to delete and where I'm extruding the edge to. I understand the proportional editing stuff!

[spiral sigil]

tuuub

[thin shadow]

are there any consequences of converting triangles to quads? blenshape problem maybe? normals? I've checked the blendshapes, since I'm using toonlit shader, the shadows and highlights doesnt matter

i did it because i want to decimate manually, using the method of dissolve edges

what are the pros and cons of quads and triangles

[tacit gorge]

triangles if im correct, they are better for games. unity will auto convert from quads to tris

[surreal flame]

Quads are superior for editing of any kind. Triangles break edge loops.

[thin shadow]

hmm I noticed the import settings on unity "keep quads"

[surreal flame]

I believe most common formats convert to tris on export anyway.

Personally I would use quads as often as possible because it's not likely to cause any problems.

[tacit gorge]

its so much easier, and it also kind of doubles the faces

[quaint jasper]

Potentially messing up the topology and ending up with worse normals yeah

[tacit gorge]

also, where can i find good assets for my avatar, i litteraly cant find a hoodie

[quaint pewter]

Oh! You know what? I am stupid, the solidify modifier made the eyes 3D, they were flat circles

[craggy lintel]

Triangles suckkkkkk lolol

[calm goblet]

triangles are fine

[tacit gorge]

hard to edit

[craggy lintel]

Any facial rig shouldn’t ever be tri

Think how verts move

[spiral sigil]

too bad you couldn't just quad remesh it

[proud pawn]

can someone help me colour my model before the 30?

its been sdk and edit and its on vrm model

because the colour i wanted is not the one i asked

[spiral sigil]

If you dont like the color scheme you can run the textures through photoshop and Hue shift them to something you like

is that what you mean?

[proud pawn]

i never done unity or any of those i was wondering if someone can help me if i toss them my vrm model to them

[spiral sigil]

around here we have ye learn

[calm goblet]

there's no auto-retopo tool out there that does a good enough job for deforming meshes

much as i'd love to never have to do retopo again, same with UVs lol

[azure rain]

if there was such a tool it would be common practice

[stable spindle]

I did a headswap in blender and the neck pivots from like the center of it, what shall i do?

Guessing bone issue?

[dim slate]

who pinged

[wheat delta]

a bot

[strong spindle]

https://prnt.sc/20y16ga

ah yes building more stuff to play with in vr chat.

[lapis smelt]

doing donut tutorial on blender, im trying to know how can i duplicate two vertices to make the icing drippier

[foggy granite]

Shift+d to duplicate select or just extrude an edge with e

[lapis smelt]

im just following a tutorial on yt by blender guru, but thank you for the info

[foggy granite]

Yeah I done the same one

[lapis smelt]

just doing this to become better at modeling and dedicating myself.

hopefully my parents will be proud of my talent

im also thinking of making an avatar world

[foggy granite]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa1F2ddGya_-UvuAqHAksYnB0qL9yWDO6 this help for general knowledge

[lapis smelt]

thanks, might watch it when i finish the donut tutorial

[foggy granite]

It’s nice to have plans

Np

[devout scroll]

3d modelling is cool

nice skill to pick up

[foggy granite]

Yeah

It pretty fun but very complex in some aspects

[wicked iris]

Before: 20,576 Polygons

After (Removed unneeded/unseen polygons and some cleaning): 11,434 Polygons

Little Visual Difference, but lots of optimization

Before

After

9142 polygons removed

[azure rain]

impressive

[craggy lintel]

Yea that’s sorta a thing ya do when making hair

It helps lots

I optimize my hairs after i sculpt em

too, and yee it’s lit

[visual vigil]

https://twitter.com/HexeArtz/status/1465078920177410050

Junos 🔞 (@HexeArtz)

CatDLC for TUPR bot

Twitter · Nov 28, 2021, 10:03 PM

I love the paws

[devout scroll]

robot paws

[azure rain]

very nice design

[latent schooner]

.. want

@visual vigil gimme the robot cat maid kthx :p

[visual vigil]

Wont redistribute out of respect to tupper

[latent schooner]

Aww

[visual vigil]

original version

[craggy lintel]

Metaverse

[visual vigil]

this was before facebook changed their name

[devout scroll]

facebook's metaverse is not the same anyway

[ashen stag]

Imagine conflating the word metaverse with some random company

[devout scroll]

as long as people don't go "you don't say meta's metaverse"

and just say facebook's metaverse, i think we'll be fine

[ashen stag]

I cant think about facebooks new name without thinking about being a metagamer

[visual vigil]

im still gonna call facebook facebook

[languid fog]

but facebook still facebook, the company behind the facebook is Meta

[sudden bear]

lol

zucc-verse

vaporwave aesthetic and american flags waving

[full ice]

This conversation really shouldn't continue here, move to #general-media

[wicked iris]

Blender Render of my model so far, hoping to get it working in VRC soon

[pure plinth]

is there a way to draw with shapes or lines in the texture paint tab

[quick egret]

So i have a issue here. when i give my avatar on blender eye tracking, everything works. Then when i have it in unity.. i check in configure if everything is correct linked .. But once i upload the avatar on VRC, the eyes won't move or blink unless i use the gestures. Does maybe anyone else know what could be the issue?

[devout scroll]

you can have a brush texture yes

[devout scroll]

#avatar-help

[languid fog]

Change the settings of your brush, you have like line, circle and etc

[spiral sigil]

i got an odd question because i'm trying to do something for someone, does anyone know how to use and or convert a .vol and or in my case a .pvol file format into something blender and unity can see? a friend of mine gave me a character i can rig for them but it's in this format i never even heard of until yesterday.

[full ice]

Your going to need to do research, if it's for a game, look up if converters for the game exists, although it's against VRChat TOS to use other games content, even if people still do it. If it's something else, your friend needs to tell you were they got it and you need to convert still. Just having an extension isn't enough to go off of here

[celest rover]

Anyone have a Christmas hat Modell?

[calm goblet]

it'd take like 2mins to make one lol

[mighty frost]

How can I merge clothes with base model?

[calm goblet]

what do you mean merge?

put them all into the same object? make them a single piece of mesh?

[mighty frost]

Into the same object

[calm goblet]

select the clothed, then select the base, then hit ctrl+j

[mighty frost]

I try but don't do anything 😦

[calm goblet]

no idea then

[celest rover]

I can Not make one..im too Bad at doing anything. U Know what some good Asset Websites are too get that sorta stuff? Preferably With textures

[calm goblet]

well i know someone who'll upload one later, but dunno anyone with one ready made

[celest rover]

Ah ok! Will it be free? And If yes where can i find it?

Want to make my Avatar a Bit more christmasy

[calm goblet]

yeah it's a freebie

or it will be when they upload

[mighty frost]

I couldnt using cntrl + j but it let me manually from object section and join, thx you ^^

[celest rover]

Ok and where?

[calm goblet]

they'll probably put it on gumroad or booth, i'll dm you the link whne they upload if you want

or if you want something faster i just started making some reindeer antlers on a headband lol

then you can grab the hat as well later

[supple lake]

It's been a while since I last posted an update on my progress, so here's the latest, added eyelid folds and a lot of tweaking shapes toggling back and forth with subdivide on and off. Maybe it's starting to look a bit less scary now more like a character than some evil robot lol

[celest rover]

That would be pog!

[celest rover]

Naaa thx i don't think that works With avalis well

[calm goblet]

no idea what an avalis is

[celest rover]

Best Pic i have rn to Show u

[calm goblet]

ahh, yeah you're gonna have a hard time making anything really work with that hair

[celest rover]

Maby Just fina make it small and Put it on one of the ears tbh

[calm goblet]

yeah that could work

[still wadi]

https://i.imgur.com/zDDJ6HD.png

[devout scroll]

spooky

[burnt lake]

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[azure rain]

but that also comes with the caveat of anything you upload can be commercially used by folks with the commercial license

[merry cedar]

Do you guys think he looks a bit weird?? I think so but i cant really think what

maybe hes too wide???

and also hes missing eyes, but dont worry about that

[devout scroll]

yeah proportions look off somehow

are you looking at references from different angles?

[merry cedar]

The reference had clothes on so i used another one

Well i can always sculpt him more

Besides im bad at drawing so the ref sheets are maybe a little off… he should be around 8 heads tall

[foggy granite]

Dude face is small, no calf’s on the legs , body looks block from a die view instead of rounded, wist and arms muscles need some work

[foggy granite]

Though body types and style are different try using this a simple guideline for understanding anatomy and proportions

[oak hatch]

^^^ references are god tier.

[azure rain]

yes artists use reference

[wicked iris]

Ok, model is currently at 72K Polygons, there's a chance it'll be much lower while keeping the general detail

Last time, this hair had 11,434 polygons.
It's now at 9,904

Still more potential in lowering

Dissolving vertices in the more hidden areas are the key

[spiral sigil]

I'm guessing its not letting me Bevel this because I have a weird mix of quads and tris where I patched in a circle yeah? How would I go about making it all quads?

(Yes I know I have many unesseccary edge loops in the model I will get that sorted in post)

[quaint jasper]

you can still bevel that to make it smooth

[spiral sigil]

Its not letting me at all, just kinda does nothing and looks like it deselects when I bevel

I can record it one second

LOL Discord thinks my windmill is explicit

ok well uh hm techical difficulties

Ive had this problem before on other random edge loops that make circles

[quaint jasper]

create more loops above and slide down to adjust i guess

[spiral sigil]

I guess that half works heh

thankfully its a very small prop so I don't count on anyone noticing

[past cloak]

winter touch up

[spiral sigil]

Those are cool stylistic candles

wait are those avatars??

[past cloak]

yeah

[spiral sigil]

very smol foots

[spiral sigil]

how does this look? its mutahar, yknow. ordinarygamers

[prime scarab]

So I was messing around in blender with some asset I got from other world and I went across this sofa, I couldn't understand how he manage to make this soft looking object?

Could anyone help me out here

How do I make something like this?

[quaint jasper]

Press tab, you can see the geometry

[prime scarab]

It looks different than other object on this sofa, mostly triangle

[quaint jasper]

Looks like it was decimated

[azure rain]

and how it was generated before that probably with cloth simulation

[prime scarab]

So you mean it used cloth simulation to get the texture like that?

[azure rain]

technically there are no Textures in the screenshots but yes that's how it got to be that soft fabric shape

[prime scarab]

sorry English isn't my first language, thats what I mean, the shape

so what about those pit looking shape on it?

[azure rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T2kEi9L86A not quite sure but here's an example the cloth simulation stuff in action

[prime scarab]

Oh, nice, thanks for the help. I gonna watch them now and see what I can find

[mint orchid]

Just make a cube

Shape it roughly

Then use the sculpt tool

And shape the sides and make the divots

[devout scroll]

https://youtu.be/entPWOmoUcs

[merry cedar]

Yeah i used different ref :/ ill mane his body smol then

[lapis smelt]

So he has more blender tutorials? Nice!

[devout scroll]

He has a lot but keep in mind he makes stuff for renders and not games

Making stuff optimized for games is a little different

[wicked iris]

Managed to get under 70K polygons.
Still aiming in reducing more

[prime scarab]

Thanks, I'm start to understand how it works now.

[prime scarab]

Nice tutorial, I will watch it today, Thanks for the help.

[surreal flame]

I think much of that detail could be offloaded to a normal map for better performance with nearly no loss in visual quality.

[wicked iris]

I know, just pushing it to see how good it'll go

before applying baked maps

[twilit condor]

I want to add some clothe I got online that have no bones onto my avatar. what are the steps?

[surreal flame]

Parent to the avatar's armature, weight paint, enjoy. Maybe remove avatar mesh covered by the clothes.

[twilit condor]

ok so a few questions. when parenting I just select the clothe and drag it into the armature? and where can i learn about weight painting?

[calm goblet]

you could get that easily below 50k if you used a normal map instead of having everything as geo

[wicked iris]

Am thinking of that. Thx

Since this is my first time doing this sort of thing, it's all experimental

[calm goblet]

subdivide what you have so it's all nice and smooth, retopo it so that all you have in the low poly is the silhouette, bake a normal map

won't even have to be all that high res of an image either, you'd be amazed what you can fit into a 1k image

[azure rain]

some spots that I noticed could probably be baked on to the normal map

[calm goblet]

everything that isn't part of the silhouette can go in the normal map

[azure rain]

yep just figured it might help to highlight some spots that don't contribute to silhouette

[calm goblet]

little example of the magic you can pull with decent UVs and a normal map, this entire character is 5k triangles and 1 1k texture

[wicked iris]

sounds like the plan, about the silhouette part

[azure rain]

is there a wireframe of the character

[azure rain]

https://twitter.com/LuX__Crystal/status/1426998950221996035?s=20

Lux_D_Aeterna (@LuX__Crystal)

PC vs Quest Topology Comparison

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Twitter · Aug 15, 2021, 8:07 PM

[calm goblet]

someone else who doesn't know what a normal map is lol

[azure rain]

well they learned what a normal map was to make the quest build

but yeah the PC version could probably be even more low-poly while keeping the same silhouette

[calm goblet]

true

there's really no reason for every single plate to be geo on a PC model though

[azure rain]

yup

[upbeat bay]

I'm learning

But when it's done I will make the thingy public so anyone can use the asset for their worlds

[quaint pewter]

I've been having issues with my texturing, specifically these white lines/cracks that pop up in blender and unity. Any way to fix this?

[spiral sigil]

idk, but I think that might just be the lighting, or the shader. Not sure tho

[quaint pewter]

I thought so too, but it comes up in VRchat as well, which is harrowing, since my last model didn't have that issue

If I change the texture node from Linear to Closest, it works, but I don't think unity supports it

[spiral sigil]

It doesn't hurt to try! but I'm no expert. You could make a copy of the model, and test it out with Closest to see if it works with unity!

[quaint pewter]

Hmmm, one moment

Result, unsuccessful, cracks show in unity

[umbral crystal]

looks like a uv problem

just add more texture bleed around the edges of your uv map

or shrink the uv islands so it has more buffer room at the edges

although honestly

u really shouldnt even need any uv mapping for this

just make a texture that is 2 colors, one black, one white

and put all of the black parts on one side

all of the white on the other

[quaint pewter]

The reason I needed to have UV mapping was because material toggles broke uncontrollably for me, and it was because of the materials I had

The only solution I found was to texture properly

[umbral crystal]

well yea but this can be your entire texture:

u can even make it 2 pixels large and turn off mipmapping, sampling type to Point

tiny file size

the grey stuff is just the uvmap i am way too lazy to draw everything

i recommend this for avatars that are just solid colors with no complex texturing at all

[quaint pewter]

Hmm, I see. And I'm guessing I could just edit the texture image in cases where I want material toggles and such?

[umbral crystal]

no u would swap materials

u cant just change a texture

but the texture can be as big as u want

so if u wanted to have a neat design on the chest

u still have a uv map

u just make the texture big enough so that u can actually draw on the model

i will show an example

[quaint pewter]

Okay, you're going a little fast here, I can't keep up with what you're saying atm. Like, I'm not sure how texture bleeding works (or how to find it), and shrinking the UV map islands would misalign the texture I have for it already, and then you went on to say I only need to make it 2 pixels large in order to get it right and turn off the mipmapping and sampling (which I've never seen before) to get it all right?

[umbral crystal]

your entire texture

and this would be for the base material

if u then wanted to make a more complicated texture

u just make the texture size large enough

https://i.gyazo.com/54c4686b795ef9c7f3d58d26a4b731f1.gif

[umbral crystal]

yea if the texture is small enough, otherwise its gonna constantly blur the color to dark grey because it will sample between the pixels rather than at the pixel

[quaint pewter]

I think they're might be a problem. I decided to put 2 pixel thing like you shows, and I think UV unwrap isn't having it

[umbral crystal]

just manually create a uv map

i would honestly recommend make the model from scratch though

it really isnt a complicated thing to model

but u should never use something with topology like that

although some of the uv isnt perfect like the excessive warping in the middle

[quaint pewter]

So if I'm understanding correctly, start over again and redo the model?

Like, I know it isn't hard to model, and I tried using a solidy tool to get an outline I wanted (since unity doesn't have any options like that), but I'm guessing because I have all the tries instead of quads, it's basically easier to just remake it?

[umbral crystal]

u dont need any complex tool at all

just duplicate the parts of the mesh that belong to the body

press alt+s (shrink/fatten)

and then flip the normals

[quaint pewter]

Alright, let me see how it goes

[quaint pewter]

Alright, after re-reading what I had to do, and getting it done, it's officially fixed! Thank you @umbral crystal !

[tall solstice]

Hi, I am a 3d modeler
Can anyone give me some information about modeling for vr-chat?
I just got acquainted with VR chat

[azure rain]

what aspect of it are you wondering about

[tall solstice]

Characters need bone to move
I want to know how to characterize the characters and the related formats

Information about formats and sizes

[azure rain]

typically focus export their avatars as fbx files

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRUlfYGZBxVeEAVXkaG1uydyzFZAMOuMd and if it helps a recent tutorial series vrchat put out about uploading avatars

that has a demo Avatar you could poke

[tall solstice]

thanks

my next question is

Can we create a world with my own map?

[azure rain]

yes users can upload worlds

[tall solstice]

a lot of thanks