3d-modeling

[spiral sigil]

I want that 3d model

[oak hatch]

It's a Mac10, with a 3D printed receiver, that takes AR triggers and Glock mags

There's a folding stock version, too.

[spiral sigil]

busted

[spiral sigil]

HOW THE hell do those bullets go through the end of the barrel

it looks like its half the diameter

[oak hatch]

Gonna build out something like this as a PDW for my OielBot public model

Mac barrels are weird

Thin as hell

Really cool gun tho

[spiral sigil]

i want

for first gun

[oak hatch]

There's like fourty iterations of the body, all are 3D printed

[spiral sigil]

are bullets expensive

[oak hatch]

Yes

[spiral sigil]

fuck

[oak hatch]

.40usd per round of 9mm last I looked.

That's if you buy it in packs of 1000

[spiral sigil]

wait that doesnt seem that bad

[oak hatch]

But yeah, next model will be inspired by that and the stribog

With a dash of GHM9

Telescoping stock, roller delayed blowback 10mm PDW, since the handgun is also in 10mm, for the memes.

[forest garden]

trying all shaders rn but no one sems to give proper transparency.. 😦

[tough plover]

Standard can do transparency

for worlds, you should try to stick to standard if you can

Poiyomi is another very commonly used shader

[forest garden]

ok thanks, well i'll keep on trying every option/alpha transparent, etc stuff

[tough plover]

@forest garden I can call a bit later to look into your issue

[spiral sigil]

img fail

[wicked iris]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664340987430174720/895197401596436480/unknown.png

[wicked iris]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/835569495501307944/895208643245531156/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/835569495501307944/895208700774588416/unknown.png

[languid fog]

Dam, this head took me more than it should, a big thx to Ruuubick for the tips

[foggy granite]

Oh dam that looks great NJ on the hair

[brazen depot]

Anyone remembers how to see what is affected by weightpaint…? It looks like heat camera

[languid fog]

Select the Armature + Shift + the mesh/object -> change to Weight Paint tab -> click on each none with ctrl

[brazen depot]

Thanks

[languid fog]

np!

[brazen depot]

while weight painting, what does the pink color mean

[fickle violet]

who can teach me some English

[thorny ivy]

Here's somethin' ya'll don't see much in here: dishware. Figured I'd see I could translate design elements from the knives + equipment into somethin' more mundane largely as an experiment, though a matchin' set does look mighty nice when laid out.

[drowsy rune]

wow sorry for late response but yes every single one

[quaint jasper]

Did you edit the mesh at all before exporting ?

If the head is fine, you can select all vertices of the body while on the Basis shapekey and do "Shape Propagate"

[drowsy rune]

I added clothes to a model and joined the meshes to the armature is all

[drowsy rune]

I did that and now I can't export it. It says "Eyes not named Body"

Okay, I fixed that problem and the shape propagate thing fixed my issue, but now I don't know how to make the blink blendshape work again

[wicked iris]

Just to showcase what the hair is like when subdivided by 2x
Definitely not gonna use 2x for VRC lol

[rain fjord]

how do i round off the ends of my monitor stand like this?

[quaint jasper]

ctrl + B

[rain fjord]

it's not rounding how i want it, notice what's wrong?

[quaint jasper]

you're selecting the whole loop, you just want to select 2 or three edges

[rain fjord]

@quaint jasper what 2 or three edges? think i tried that before but not the rght way i guess

[quaint jasper]

try left and right edges of the square end

[rain fjord]

@quaint jasper it worked!, now how do i make it perfectly round and choose how many faces i want it to have?

[quaint jasper]

scroll wheel after ctrl + B

[rain fjord]

@quaint jasper it's not working, it's adding more faces but not making it rounder

[quaint jasper]

[quaint jasper]

i am not too sure why that's happening to you tbh

[spiral sigil]

vertex bevel mode?

yall on diff mode

[spiral sigil]

im 100% certain its this

[wicked iris]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664340987430174720/895654989962289192/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664340987430174720/895655093700034590/unknown.png

[oak hatch]

Anyone have tips on UV unwrapping?
I'm trying to stack some UVs and keep them grouped on top of each other in blender, but when I do something like merge them, they shatter into parts.

My process was, uv unwrap by seams, then layer the similar geometry over each other, then merge by distance to get them aligned precisely.

I was then planning to group them (somehow, don't know how) and average scale and pack.

But I'm unable to.

If you can help, many thanks.

[quick egret]

Hello, i have a question. So i know true 3.0 SDK it would be easier, but i wanted to try this true 2.0 SDK. To see if this actually works... : I am working on a avatar that has 2 bodies. One for example in a regular human skin and the other is a demon skin version, with horns. I used the toggle tool where i Unable the Demon body and disable the human body, so the unable button will be on the control panel. Which workt! Now, if i use the vrc- descriptor, i need to link one body. Wich i used the human body for. The body of the human mouth moves when i speak, but when the Demon is being toggled to reveal, it doesn't move the mouth when i speak. I tough of adding another vrc-descriptor but it doesn't seem to work.. Is it true tough that we can only use the vrc-descriptor just once? ( it might sound like a stupid question but just wanted to be sure ) If where able to use it twice, is there another way? Thankyou ^^ ❤️

[spiral sigil]

I will fucking murder omega bot for deleting my long responses

[quick egret]

You replied to my message? cause i saw a tag but it removed it when i checked

[spiral sigil]

yeah omega bot deleted it

[quick egret]

-z-

[spiral sigil]

basically id just have them be 2 seperate avatars

OR

if you can switch from the normal to human and back with material/texture swaps and gameobject toggles do that

[quick egret]

Hmm.. But it might make the avatar a bigger file to and harder to upload right?

[spiral sigil]

you literally have 2 seperate avatars in one

thats more filesize

[quaint jasper]

Oh god you're really not supposed to do that

If you want to stack similar but not exact copies of the same island then you need to U square them and even then it's not ideal

Why do you need to have them be the same on the uvmap if their geometry is different ?

[quick egret]

Yeah ... i am just going to make 2 separate avatars. just making it otherwise to diffecault for myself lols

[spiral sigil]

maybe someday we will have the abiltiy to switch between different avatars in a radical menu, for avatars with like a million outfits but yknow not all on one avatar

for your own avatars rather not public

[pine plaza]

Hey im looking for a pocky stick 3d model anyone know a good one

[obsidian nova]

Absolutely insane.

[quick egret]

i hope so

[quick egret]

really nice 😮

[spiral sigil]

WIP for Spookality, i am currently trying to think of better clothing for him

[rain fjord]

@spiral sigil still not working

[spiral sigil]

noo? then i got no leads

[spiral sigil]

so here's a question

how do I mirror a weight paint I've already done?

I forgot to check X-mirror on bender, and now I have one side of the model that has good weightpaints, and another that doesn't

[random oriole]

how do i rig and export the model into vrchat

[spiral sigil]

make skeleton, parent skeleton to mesh, fix weight paints because that's gonna fuck up, make the materials if you haven't already, export as an FBX, open Unity 2019.4.31f1, add VRChat SDK 3.0 avatar package, log in, import fbx, correct the materials, set up the blendshapes, hope you don't have a mental breakdown when it all fucks up eventually, keep saving, finish everything you need to finish, go to builder, build for windows and you have it uploaded in VRChat

I skipped a lot of steps because there's just too much

look up tutorials online, it helps a lot

[small valve]

i dont know if there is a way to do that natively, but someone has probably written a script for it

[languid fog]

name the bones properly, if it is at the left side of your model named it with a ".l" at the end EX: (Feet.l)

after that use the Symmetrize option

[spiral sigil]

I meant for the weights, not the bones themselves

But thanks

[quaint jasper]

You can duplicate and mirror vertex groups

or use a mirror modifier on your body mesh

[spiral sigil]

working on a thing for spookality

[serene nebula]

@wicked iris dang what shader is that?

[wicked iris]

This isn't previewed on VRC btw, it's just the regular Principled BSDF shaders in Blender.

[serene nebula]

Ah, fair

The toon shader that people seem to favor washes out the colors on my avatar.

Will have to dig around for others

[wicked iris]

yep, it really hides out the mass polycounts imo.
Thinking of going for the more normal shading type, going for the semi real look

[languid fog]

you have 2 options for anime shader:
1 - Use Poiyomi, Cubeds or some shader who do the job automatically (for vrc in unity).
2 - hand paint the texture.

[wicked iris]

might be doing the hand painting method mixed with a slight toon shader, then again, I'll be experimenting around with what's best

[languid fog]

how can i solve this?

I already did the AA, OH and CH

but for some reason CATS don't recognise the mesh

[quaint jasper]

Did you join your meshes ?

[spiral sigil]

Does anyone have any good viseme picture references I can use ?
I'm making visemes

[languid fog]

i need to join all the meshes in one?

[quaint jasper]

That might help cats for finding those shapekeys, i think it looks for the mesh called Body

[quaint jasper]

https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1W5KFa_aszCMrJaFD8mb9a-GHYO4X4S9M63GjM4UwuEw/pub

[spiral sigil]

spooky default unity man

[quaint jasper]

His name is Fred !

[quaint jasper]

put some respec on his name

[solar fossil]

This channel is for 3d-modelling discussions, please move to #general-media for other discussions /s

[serene nebula]

@languid fog in my experience you also have to make the armature first and pair it to the mesh

[languid fog]

well, still the same

[languid fog]

^^

did the 20 Shape keys and named it properly

did the shape of AA, OH and CH

to do the visemes

but still "No meshes found"

[quaint jasper]

Are you sure your shapekeys are named correctly and you have a Basis at the top ?

Are the meshes weight painted to the main armature ?

[languid fog]

yes

[languid fog]

yes

[quaint jasper]

where's the rest of your armature

[languid fog]

do i need to have a entire armature to do Visemes?

big bruh moment

[quaint jasper]

tbf it might be a Cats bug i'm unaware of https://discord.gg/zRd4m2Ev

[languid fog]

it would be weird needing a entire Armature just for visemes

[languid fog]

ok idk how i did it

but it worked

aosndoiadnoiand

idk what is happening, but the visemes worked

so yeah

[quaint jasper]

Yeah my guess that it was looking for a whole armature to find the model

[bright steppe]

Been a while since I've done any real renders in Blender but I was curious

Does Blender have multi-GPU rendering?

If so, how fast could I render with

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854654076080095242/896220051462561822/unknown.png

4 RTX 2080 TIs

[dusty heron]

Yes, https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/render/cycles/gpu_rendering.html#can-multiple-gpus-be-used-for-rendering

[bright steppe]

Nice!! Thank you!!

Are those cards good? I assume they are, but it's mostly used like a TPU so I'm not sure about its graphics capabilities.

[dusty heron]

2080 TIs are very good cards

[bright steppe]

Ooooh

I have no scale lol I've been rendering mostly on my gaming laptop which is on a single GTX 1060 (6GB)

And it takes a good like... ten minutes to do the renders I tend to do in Cycles

How much faster could I expect 4 2080 TIs to render that same kind of image?

this question is probably making the resident Gaming Rig builders and 3d modeling nerds scream lol but I am somewhat new to this

[dusty heron]

I don't actually know, but pretty much, a lot faster.

Because you're not only taking a much better card, but also 4 of them

[bright steppe]

interesting

I'll have to see if I have permission to use it for that

I'm using a server from own of my professors to do some PyTorch machine learning model training

The program is using over 40gb of VRAM lol

That machine do be learnin

Actually I misread that table, apparently that's the total avail memory and it's only using about 10gb of it which is weird

honestly I bet lol

I hope he'll give me permission to do it

He's doing VR research as well

so maybe if I ask for permission to "do my 3D and VRchat renders on your server" he'll give me permission lol

LOL

honestly I bet he will

he's doing VR security research

and I'm considering applying to him for grad school

so I don't really want to get in his bad graces

and honestly with 4 2080s sitting idle, I can't imagine it would be a burden

but I should definitely ask first

this ML experiment is actually somewhat VR related

I accidentally ran the model on only one GPU but it's still training at 2hz lol

so

so I can just let it run, it'll be trained mostly in like 12 hours enough to see if this is actually feasible

[bright steppe]

Essentially his research in the past has been significantly on like

physical device security

Some research he's discussed involves how it's possible to use smartwatch accelerometers or cell phone accelerometers to accurately predict users' typing using ML

which means that essentially with no permissions, you can snoop passwords

He's going to research that for VR next

[dawn fern]

So I have this Vrchat model that I made on a site

And I have no idea how to export it to unity, and get it into Vrchat

[devout scroll]

depends on where you made it

[dawn fern]

VRoidStudio

Very helpful thank you

[solar fossil]

built myself a server with 3 5700xt cards in it and ran some blender rendering on it, sadly the speed increase wasn't as high as i was hoping for, so its either not scaling linearly by adding more gpus or i had something configured incorrectly, this was also dont on the old version of cycles since cycles X does not yet support amd cards. Do keep us updated with your results tho, pretty curios on how things are on nvidia side 👀

[dawn fern]

Yeah I’ve been trying to get this VRM file in, and it just won’t work (it’s labeled Cake2)

I even got a converter

[final mortar]

Hey so is there an easy(er) way to put an existing texture on a mesh? I've got this so far in Unity, and right now I'm relying on Blender's UV editing feature. It's close to what I want to do but not quite; I'm trying to make these scales seamless and I'd like them to flow across the body nicely, and I'm trying to have it so that e.g. the main body has larger scales and the tip of the nose eases into smaller scales. For the record I'm using a texture that's been listed as completely free to use on the person's website

[spiral sigil]

hey ! can someone please help me out with making a avatar please i got all the texture's ! but i have problem's with the program

[elfin crystal]

is anyone willing to make a dog model from scratch for me? i'll dm you a referance and some things i do and dont want in the model! give me a little bit of time to put together the money.

oh yeah, please make it SFW [SAFE FOR WORK]

[quaint jasper]

https://ask.vrchat.com/c/commissions/avatar-commissions/35

[elfin crystal]

i cant acsess my vrchat account is broken at the moment.

[quaint jasper]

#community-servers-old message

[languid fog]

For a First time, not bad at all

[wicked iris]

done some rigging

still under progress

[devout scroll]

gotta do it manually i guess. you could paint them onto your mesh if you have proper uvs but I don't know if there's a easier way to do it

[tough lintel]

Done making @miyuki_05290's OC into a model
https://twitter.com/nikkytae/status/1447165120778407939?s=20
https://skfb.ly/o7ONQ

Nikkytae (@nikkytae)

Finally done making model of @miyuki_05290's OC >__<
It’s my first time making variants of Japanese traditional clothing. It was pretty fun. https://t.co/WauMt4l8YA

▶ Play video

Twitter · Oct 10, 2021, 11:40 AM

[final mortar]

Yeah. After a little research, apparently what I need to do is paint directly on the mesh indeed. Manually aligning the UVs to match definitely feels like it's going to take far too long

Doing it in Blender feels like it's going to be complicated so I've taken to finding another software to help with texturing. So far I've got Armorpaint to try out - if all else fails, I might consider Substance Painter but I'd love to use free software instead

[devout scroll]

quixel mixer is also free and pretty good

not so much for painting just yet i think, but it's good for procedural stuff

[final mortar]

Tried using the github version of armorpaint since I can't buy anything right now while they offered the source code for free. Things... didn't go as planned lol

And these are actual glitches, i.e. I couldn't just paint over them

I just wanted to put on some naturally-flowing scales lol

[quaint jasper]

You can try substance for 30 days

[final mortar]

As far as I've seen, it's actually 7 days

At least according to the search results

They've apparently recently changed it from 30 days to 7

[quaint jasper]

[final mortar]

I mean I can definitely try it out still, lol. I might actually, considering that I haven't found another free or affordable alternative yet and 7 days is still better than nothing

Also thinking of seeing about blender add-ons too

[devout scroll]

You can get a student license for a year

Then another one next year

It doesn't matter what kind of student you are or if you are one

[final mortar]

I actually am a student, the only question is how do I go about getting the student license and/or if my college is even qualified? (I'm not based in the US)

Also just installed the trial version and this is the first thing that shows up when it's opened. Rip lol

Oh hey, looks like it does actually give me 30 days

Seems the 7 day thing doesn't actually apply, at least not to substance painter

[devout scroll]

I don't think that info is being checked at all

You get a license emailed to you the second you click submit, and the picture of your student id doesn't matter either

[final mortar]

Hmm. Suppose I'll need to see where I can access this sort of webpage, and I'll also need to wait a little anyway as I just recently re-enrolled college and I've to receive a new student id card

Seems I've found it, and it does appear that I'll actually be eligible for it. Sweet

[plush ridge]

working on my first low poly model

[azure rain]

cool

[small valve]

your style is immaculate

[plush ridge]

thanks

[patent lantern]

Damn that's sick!

[cinder venture]

In love with that design

[plush ridge]

and textures are all done

yes

[weary jungle]

That looks really good

Now I want a computer to make models like theses

[astral shard]

So on the other end of the spectrum; I'm looking to make models look kind of... scuffed. Like near-intentionally bad. I think it's something that's done within Blender as some kind of optimization, but I'm not sure the entire process.

[dusty heron]

Step 1: Decimate
There is no step 2.

[astral shard]

Excellent, that's the option I was looking for

[quaint bronze]

Simplygon can get you a very similar look and you can choose to have it atlas all of the materials on your avatar while its doing the reduction. Blender integration is in preview mode but it’s still available on the free version. It has native Unity support available too

[astral shard]

I'm honestly not looking for full perfecetion, but instead just looking for scuffed

[spiral sigil]

flamungo

[azure rain]

so cool

[hushed acorn]

Just decimate the model alot

You can also mess with making cursed shapekeys for talking

But the most I've done with that is make a plush's head stretch a little when talking

[night hamlet]

can someone help me comprehend weight painting, no matter what i do it turns into this hot mess and I don't get what I am doing wrong

[devout scroll]

perhaps another bone is interfering

check the other vertex groups or go into edit mode and select one vertex of the knee and in the weight table see what affects it

https://puu.sh/Ihz7Z/6214445c0b.png

[night hamlet]

I use c4d 😅

oh yeah there was another bone interfering

[devout scroll]

Well, any modelling software has alternatives to these tools

[wispy iris]

Hey guys! I'm new to the community and I work in Blender and Unity, I wanted to start making VRchat worlds, where should I start?

About getting a vrc world up and running

Optimization

Scripts and stuff

Looking for some guideline ^^

[azure rain]

found this one to be a decent text guide https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2507157026

[wispy iris]

Thank you so much

[azure rain]

and definitely ask around on the Discord if you have any questions

[wispy iris]

Yessss I sure will!

[teal token]

do you have some kind of identification card that you got when you started ur education?

you can use that to verify that you are a student

otherwise you can purchase a perpetual licence trough steam, its gonna set you back about 150 euro but its very much worth it for that price

[final mortar]

I do but it's outdated, unless that doesn't matter

[teal token]

you can try it anyway

[final mortar]

Actually now that I look at it, it doesn't actually show my current year on the front at all. Just the issue date on the back

[teal token]

i believe its being checked by AI so you might be able to fool it

it has been a while tho when i have had to get a student lisence, things might have changed since adobe is in charge now

[final mortar]

Maybe. Think I'll wait for my new ID first just to be safe

For now I got the 30 days trial, and I can also see about getting the perpetual license depending on what happens

Would be cool if I got the students license so I wouldn't need to worry about the perpetual one immediately, considering my budget is pretty limited

[teal token]

tru, just see if you like it or not and give it a good spin. if you are serious about getting into 3D art its a BIG reccomendation to learn. fairly easy to pick up and speeds up workflow 10fold compared to photoshop texturing

alternatevely you can check out this, its a free substance alternative. a bit less in fatures tho but it will do the trick https://armorpaint.org/

[final mortar]

Actually I did check that one. Had some difficulties unfortunately

Used the source code version (after compiling of course) so I could give it a try. Was a bit tough to get around and I also experienced some glitches

[teal token]

understandeble, i gave up after the compiling of source code part lmo

[final mortar]

For me the compiling part was pretty easy, particularly since they had instructions and it went by smoothly. But they also left out a step which I had to find via a youtube video lol

After which I finally had a program that would successfully run

[teal token]

aye chill

if you can follow all that then you should be able to learn substance painter just fine

that is if you understand UV unwrapping ofc

but it has an auto uv unwrapping feature nowadays

[final mortar]

Ya. UV unwrapping seemed pretty simple, at least as far as I was concerned lol

But something I've tried to do was attempt to adjust the UV islands to create scales that flowed nicely. Needless to say, I eventually gave up because it was far too difficult to actually make it look good lol

(for context - was using an existing, free texture)

[teal token]

aye i see

if you have trouble with UV unwrapping check out RizomUV, i have been personally using if for the last 2 years and have not used any other UV unwrapper since

[languid fog]

I really like her Vtuber concept, so nice

[devout scroll]

[vivid crater]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-aoogah-awoogah-awooga-love-gif-19805850

[split sable]

I'm moving to the current version of the panda base, but I'd like to keep the current body texture I've been using. The new base has different UV mapping from the older style. Does anyone know a quick tool or tutorial to change either the UV mapping or the textures themselves without doing it all by hand.

Is there like a quick and easy way to map the UV from the first pic to the second?

I know I can do it by re-adding seams and unwrapping things front to back, but I'd rather just like quick and dirty copy past the textures from the first image onto the second image.

[foggy granite]

I would say no. Since the setup looks completely different between the two. Just take the time and remark the UV seems.

[oak hatch]

NPR gun. Planning to release as a full unity package, including anims and the like.

around 2k tris, 2k texture. will include working RDS.

[oak hatch]

I still have to smack it with a planar decimate to clear any extra Tris, and figure out how to get outlines on poi with split normals, but the animations are mostly done, and the textures only need some tweaking to look more "cartoon"

[spiral sigil]

Any tips for avatar modeling? I haven't made humanoids before

[oak hatch]

Start from references

either 3D ones, or 2D ones

[spiral sigil]

Alright

Kinda wondering if starting out with the basic shape then subdividing a few times followed by sculpt smooth tool will work...

Might at least give me something to work with

[spiral sigil]

How do most models look so smooth

Like is there a specific program that people use?

[azure rain]

basically most folks on here use blender to do their modeling

[spiral sigil]

Ok I already use Blender so I got that checked off

[azure rain]

cool

[spiral sigil]

But all these models are so smooth it's kinda impressive

[azure rain]

mostly it's folks having a better grasp on how to use the tools

[spiral sigil]

Yeah

I'm sure

Could be the shader

#avatar-showcase message

You're probably right that it's the shader

But shade smooth never looks good when I enable it

Maybe it's cause my models are never complex enough?

Ok

Yeah

So that is done without shader?

I guess the tools alone are good enough...

I'll get it all figured out

Yeah shade smooth I think

Unless that's not a shader

I'm basically self taught in blender so idk

Ah

[azure rain]

like are you referring to the specular highlights if you're talking about Princibled BSDF

[spiral sigil]

No just that the models surfaces always look like very smooth. No jagged edges or anything

No noticable verts

Usually low vert count

I'd have to dig up some images

Yeah

Well I'll see what I can do

Pushing my limits a bit

[spiral sigil]

Proffesional

[near sedge]

thanks, I'm really happy that I got into this hobby

[spiral sigil]

Not bad

[languid fog]

the weight paint on this lmao

...

[spiral sigil]

Beginner question: (I'm trying to learn everything I can) how is it curved without having a ton of pollies?

[azure rain]

that has a subdivide modifier on it

[spiral sigil]

Ok...

Don't exactly know what that means cause I'm guessing it's not the same as normal subdivide

[azure rain]

basically that just means it's not permanently on the model until you tell it so

[spiral sigil]

Ok

But it curves without making a ton of verts?

I really need to learn how to use it

[azure rain]

it actually makes more vertices it's just not rendering them in editor mode

[spiral sigil]

Ok

Oh is it in that modifier tab in the side?

[azure rain]

yes

[spiral sigil]

Oh found it

So much cleaner

Dang

[azure rain]

yep as it's literally using like four times the amount of vertices so it's definitely smoother

[spiral sigil]

Oh weird it's not applying to 4 edges

Figured it out

[spiral sigil]

feet

sorta

[quaint jasper]

I hope you're looking at tutorials and references !

[brazen depot]

this happen and idk what it is or how to fix it

[spiral sigil]

oh no

is that in render?

[brazen depot]

idk

[spiral sigil]

maybe try checking the the face orientations?

[spiral sigil]

or that the faces are still there

oh ok then

[brazen depot]

how do i do that?

[spiral sigil]

they show fine in the render but not the solid

that's actually pretty weird

is this a model that you grabbed off the internet? just curious...

[brazen depot]

all the parts are mhm

[spiral sigil]

need an idea of how much experience you have

[brazen depot]

none ^^

its my first one

[spiral sigil]

oh so you're taking parts and dragging em in?

[brazen depot]

mhm

[spiral sigil]

ok...

[brazen depot]

but i checked a couple videos and tutorial and got help in the past

[spiral sigil]

hmm

i model from hand soo...

idk how to help...

[quaint jasper]

alt + N > recalculate outside

[brazen depot]

so idk how experienced i can call myself but i know the hoodie isnt supposed to be called head

[spiral sigil]

yeah try that

[spiral sigil]

lol

do know that if there are internal faces, the recalculation could get messed up

[brazen depot]

it works!

wdym?

luckily its only the skirt

that skirts has so many problems

anyway, tysm!

[brazen depot]

rq how do i select all the bones attached to a specific bone?

[oak hatch]

L

(if they're connected, in blender)

[brazen depot]

thanks!

mhm

[oak hatch]

No worries

[dusty spoke]

So I’m on quest 2 is it possible to make my own avatars

[open scarab]

Yes but you need a pc to upload

[thorny ivy]

Speaking of, ran into trouble with Blender after porting my files over to my new rig.

Blender's showing the proper icons for the materials and everything else seems intact but the model itself is purple.

[dusty spoke]

Ok I got that but where would I do the actual making of the avatar at

[azure rain]

combination of blender and unity

[dusty spoke]

Ok

[azure rain]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/creating-your-first-avatar

[quaint jasper]

You can use the File > External Data> Find Missing Files

[thorny ivy]

Many thanks, just saved me a lot of headache.

[brazen depot]

rq how do i rename a bone?

in blender

[quaint jasper]

Double click on the name or in the bone panel directly

[brazen depot]

anyone knows how to add texture to something that has no texture?... I dont know how to explain but im basically trying to draw the nails

i use blender and CATS plugin

[quaint jasper]

Make a new material, UV unwrap those nails, assign the new material to those nails, use an existing texture or paint them yourself

[granite hornet]

Working on a little special something for halloween

[spiral sigil]

hey anyone elses sdk not showing up at the top if unity?

[brazen depot]

I remember when it happened to me i was using the wrong version of unity, maybe thats what it is?

[granite hornet]

Could be. They did update the version of unity it uses now. The current build of unity should be 2019.4.31

[spiral sigil]

o cause i use 5.6.3p1 what should i use

[dusty heron]

You should use 2019.4.31f1, Unity 5 is over 4 years old now.

[devout scroll]

oh geez

also #user-support-old this is #3d-modeling

for, well, 3d modelling

[spiral sigil]

Modeling feet in class

This is a power move

Honestly this isn't going half bad

I have the calves planned out

[spiral sigil]

Anyone know where I can learn modeling for non-humanoid avatars?

Want to make this guy

Anyone know why the modifier isn't applying symmetrically?

[wicked iris]

is your object's origin in between?

the mirror modifier gets applied from the origin point

here's the different ways of setting the origin

[spiral sigil]

Yeah it's at the center

I haven't moved it

[wicked iris]

make sure the mesh is near the origin point

[spiral sigil]

It is

And symmetry editing applies fine

But the modifier doesn't

[wicked iris]

modifier settings?

in the modifier tab?

@spiral sigil

[spiral sigil]

Oh I wasn't seeing that

I'm not on my computer RN though

[wicked iris]

Understandable

[spiral sigil]

Turned on y-axis mirror and y-axis bisect

Seems to have fixed it

[wicked iris]

nice 👍

[spiral sigil]

How is this actually working??

I'm surprised

It actually looks good

[near sedge]

DAX is coming along,

[near sedge]

yeah I didn't consider just how sexy this would be when I came up with this idea

[spiral sigil]

So ive been having Alot of problems trying to unhide the Gray Mesh shown in the scene here however it says its not hidden and its invisable either way.. how do i fix this???

[full ice]

enable more of the filter toggle restriction things

[spiral sigil]

thanks

[thorny ivy]

Any of ya'll got tips for makin' monster-style teeth or just teeth/mouths as a whole?

Don't like what most anime-esque models use an' figured it'd just be easier to create some from scratch then hunt down a model with a decent set.

Goal's somethin' like this.

[frank vine]

okay loosing my mind here... i feel like ive tried ALL vertex groups like 3 or 4 times... (theres ALOT) but i still cant get rid of these "dents" in both of her thighs.. As you can see this avatar never had actual legs past the thigh, (white thigh leg is where that cuts off) it only does this when the leg is raised forward or backwards.. im ON the "leg" layer and its ALL red.. so what gives?

[devout scroll]

I think anime's usually flat, sometimes a long and bent cube with fangs sticking out.
I'd look at sculpting animal teeth but you may also get away with just find simple box modelling with subdivisions

[native slate]

I'd get the basic principles of modelling a humanoid avatar done first so you learn about topology, weight painting, and using the least amount of polygons possible. You're still modelling an anthro character, so most of those tips will carry over. The main difference would just be the proportions.

Your answer: Modeling humanoid avatars on youtube

[spiral sigil]

Okay thank you so much!

[past cloak]

humanity restored

[azure rain]

cool

[hushed acorn]

Here's an early version of a model I'm working on

I plan to improve and replace some textures at some point but I think I did pretty good for just like 4 hours of working on it

[obsidian nova]

Cloth clothing simulation is so cool, but so jank. Random topology everywhere around the seams. Ughhhh 💀

[obsidian nova]

Hell yeah!

[obsidian nova]

You could always rip from a furry base; or try to find a vampire base, or model yourself using animal skulls/teeth as reference. I love this look though. Good luck!

[brisk bobcat]

Hey guys ^^ i was just wondering, does anyone have 3d model ready for use - bracelets for couples? Perhaps something like black leather or pearls like accesories which can have some space of silver metal to have name written on it later on?

Im not sure if this is the group chat to ask, as im not looking for an avi either.. though

[foggy granite]

Go check out websites like gumroad, booth, sketchfab, etc

Just in general 3d assets stores would help you out

[brisk bobcat]

Okay i will try and have a look :). Thank you!

[hollow ermine]

I am doing important work

2.0 in the works (hand size may vary)

[thorny ivy]

Stoplight Head lives again.

[foggy granite]

With more enforcing power

[vivid crater]

stopping traffic with his bare hands

[thorny ivy]

I feel like a stop sign made into a battle ax would be a suitable weapon for him.

[hollow ermine]

Not a bad idea

[spiral sigil]

working on swatchling from deltarune :0

[plush mulch]

making already

[worldly tangle]

What I finished yesterday

[spiral sigil]

@plush mulch I'm trying but 3d modeling harder than people like this ^ make it look

[plush mulch]

um, the character i'm using and you want to do is a literal humanoid, i dont see why you cant do it

also

non-humanoids characters are not compatable

i think

[zealous pond]

Check your other bones, sounds like you have the legs also weighted to the hips or spine

[thorny ivy]

They are, just gotta be bit more creative an' do some trickery.

[languid fog]

(the bot is not allowing me to post the other view bc it is "sexually explicit content" lmao)

[thorny ivy]

Real nice work on the clothin'.

How complicated was it to make? Some bits look complex to pull off.

[quaint jasper]

Looks like a lot of self intersecting geometry

Also maybe wrong, but i'd assume starting with shrinkwrap and extruding from there

[languid fog]

some yeah, i tried to use less faces possible and the belt at the upper part of the boobs would need a lot of faces to look decent, so i just did it on a way to enter the mesh without looking that bad

ik that's not the better way to do it, but yk, still learning haha

[foggy granite]

Looks good mind telling me the tri count

[languid fog]

with the body or just the cloth?

[foggy granite]

Both

[languid fog]

Cloth = 14.932
Both = 44.312

[quaint jasper]

Intersecting geometry is totally legit, i wish i did it when i started instead of trying to make everything part of the same topology...

[languid fog]

oh really? i was wondering if it was right

dam thats nice to know hahah

[foggy granite]

Yeah having things separate is great for a modeling standpoint and also help thing be a bit more optimized

[languid fog]

44k is quite much tbh, i think i could do some optimization with it

[spiral sigil]

i like how this is going

[foggy granite]

True but what subdivision level do you have on the mesh

[spiral sigil]

even though they aren't even full feet

[languid fog]

1

[foggy granite]

Oh good I like to work with 1 as well

[languid fog]

i dont recommend using sub lvl 3 at the viewport

[languid fog]

i like to do the most optimized possible

[spiral sigil]

ok :/

it looks too angular at 1

[foggy granite]

But I haven't work on any base mesh in a while mainly props

And also this

Still got a lot of work

[quaint jasper]

You need proper topology in the first place, otherwise it will be hell for you

[quaint jasper]

Highly suggest looking at any modelling body tutorial, you're pushing yourself into a corner here

[spiral sigil]

ok...

[languid fog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn555KG40Qc

[spiral sigil]

i've already understood that i'm not doing it very well

that's not really my goal

[languid fog]

yo i cant do mech stuff

[quaint jasper]

That's alright, you picked up skills on the way, just want to make sure you're making something usable in the end

[spiral sigil]

alright

[foggy granite]

Well this is my closest finish one compare to all the human projects I start then stop

[languid fog]

thas nice

i tried one time to do a mech arm and lord... hahaha

[spiral sigil]

i'll make another project i guess

[foggy granite]

Yeah i know how you feel sometime it just batter to stop the project and retry

Jesus I just remembered how horrific the first face I made

[spiral sigil]

oh no 😆

was it bad?

better question: how bad was it?

[foggy granite]

I got to find a photo

[languid fog]

oh yeah, the first one Hahahaha

i have mine too, 1min

[spiral sigil]

yall've stopped me in my tracks lol

so i might avoid that

previous to this i'm basically self taught

made these kamas for example

[foggy granite]

Oh weapons

[languid fog]

19 jun of 2020

dam

[languid fog]

look like a bird

[spiral sigil]

honestly looks like a bird mask of some sort

[languid fog]

ikr

[spiral sigil]

it's a smooth model and you could probably repurpose it

[languid fog]

idk why i added a fckn bevel modifier to it

[languid fog]

thats a nice spear

[spiral sigil]

niice

[foggy granite]

That’s was when I learn about creases

It’s about 27k poly though

[languid fog]

sub 1?

[foggy granite]

Yeah

On some areas

But I got a good couple of other props too

[languid fog]

ic

i need to do a weapon some day, its being a long since a did it

[spiral sigil]

made these ships using blender and roblox

that was over a year ago

[languid fog]

thats cool

[spiral sigil]

thanks

i now have blob

[foggy granite]

The big toe

[spiral sigil]

ok that's weird. why are there 2 edges here?

it seems like the extruded faces got copied...

fixed it by merging them

hopefully that is the recommended solution

[foggy granite]

I say yes because sometime blender make the overlapping vertex

[spiral sigil]

yeh

i got a ripped model from WipEout HD/Fury once. it had a horrendous amount of overlapped vertexes

is talking about having ripped models allowed here?

[foggy granite]

Hmm I haven’t seen anyone ban for it

[spiral sigil]

alright

checked the rules and it's not mentioned

[foggy granite]

Yeah but ripped models are generally very diverse in quality wise

[spiral sigil]

yeah

anyways back to my model...

i think that the feet and hands are probably gonna be the most difficult part of this

[foggy granite]

Yeah I generally agree

But usually I don’t try to model feet because you can just cover them with shoes

[spiral sigil]

i have a plan for the calves, should only use like 8 manually placed verts at most

[spiral sigil]

that's true

[foggy granite]

If you just practicing it good to model the feet for who know why

Maybe you want sandals

[brazen depot]

what should the eyebrows be attached to?

[dusty heron]

It's mentioned in rule 9.

[spiral sigil]

oh yep there it is

not like i've touch the file in ages

and they're now deleted

[quaint jasper]

in what ? bones ?

[brazen depot]

mhm It was previously attached to my eyes bone, so it would disappear if i looked arround

but now its not attached to anything and it doesnt work

well the eyebrows still have animations working, but it doesnt follow the head correctly

[quaint jasper]

That should be the head bone

if they're not following it means they're weight painted to something else

[foggy granite]

Yeah

Eye bones are only meant to move the eyes anything else we got an issue

[brazen depot]

thanks!

yeah i figured it out when they disappeared in my head XD

How can I weight paint the eyebrows only?

found it

[spiral sigil]

neat

[brazen depot]

it only allow me to paint the fur

sorry i found the problem

[thorny ivy]

If you're using ripped models to any degree, I would only recommend doing so as a reference/template for more original content.

Depending on their complexity/age, there's a good chance you could also recreate them almost entirely or even make something of higher quality.

[spiral sigil]

yep

[thorny ivy]

On top of that, many models experience some level of optimization/decimation to make them more computation-friendly but there's plenty which were questionably-made in the first place. Plus, the software used for making them was likely not on-par with current ones today and/or made with certain hardware limitations in mind.

[spiral sigil]

yeah that's true

[hushed acorn]

boyo im working on. any tips?

(I am still working on the textures for the shoes and pants)

[quaint jasper]

Tips to do what ?

[brazen depot]

Ayyy my model is finally getting somewhere 😄

just gonna have to fix the white eyes but i think i know where the problem comes from

eh nope idk why my eyes are weird

XD

is it possible to give a different atlas to my unity texture?

[brazen depot]

Such a dumb error

I cant fix it

[sage brook]

Would anyone be able to tell me the best way I can add new shoes to my avatar? I have used blender before, trying to add skates to my current avatar for the new skating world coming out tmrw and no matter what I do when I try walking with it or testing a animation in unity the shoes just go off the feet

[quaint jasper]

how are they weight painted ?

[sage brook]

well that's the thing, I have changed clothes before but never shoes, these skates also don't have a armature so what would be my best bet?

[quaint jasper]

to weight paint them to your feet bones

[sage brook]

is there something with cats to do that?

[quaint jasper]

not really, join your meshes, in edit mode select the left roller skate, assign 1 to the left foot vertex group, repeat for the other side

[sage brook]

uh I used this

guess that is a no go

didn't work well

[sage brook]

how do I assign it?

[quaint jasper]

By clicking on Assign

[sage brook]

did that, double check it assigned it and still

this

me just testing a dance emote and the white part is the legs

[quaint jasper]

make sure they're not assigned to any other vertex group

[sage brook]

They are not

odd

[sage brook]

yeah idk still does the same thing

[brazen depot]

thanks to everyone for helping me

[spiral sigil]

Yep calf was much easier than the foot lol

I can manage

[spiral sigil]

Perhaps

[spiral sigil]

Knee

[spiral sigil]

How do I merge 2 objects?

Make them into 1

I've done it before

But can't figure it out now

Oh got it

[thorny ivy]

Finished the rough draft of the upper jaw, haven't applied the subsurface modifiers yet but I'll wait to do that until after I get the bottom done + into position.

[sage brook]

so if I have my current avatar with a armature and I am trying to add shoes that don't come with a armature what would be the easiest way to do so?

[foggy granite]

parent the shoes to the feet bone and transfer the weight

[sage brook]

how do I transfer the weight?

and parent it

[languid fog]

idk if this question can be make here, but do I need to export my model on a specific way to come with my visemes?

[quaint jasper]

Make sure it's targeting the correct body mesh

[languid fog]

it is

[quaint jasper]

otherwise no, there's nothing else to do

rename it Body in that case

[languid fog]

yep, still the same

[quaint jasper]

Are you exporting over an existing model or fresh import ?

[languid fog]

Fresh import

[brazen depot]

if i want my ears to be interactive, should they have bone collider?

[quaint jasper]

Are the shapekeys not visible in the blendshape dropdown list on the skinned mesh renderer component ?

[quaint jasper]

interactive for yourself yes

[languid fog]

just say "none"

[quaint jasper]

Click on the skinned mesh above

[brazen depot]

oh, what about if someone else touch them? ive seen on public avatar the ears were "touchable" (sorry for my english), i wonder if i have to do something special for that

[quaint jasper]

top of the component has a lit

[quaint jasper]

No that would be a modified client, which is against vrchat's TOS

Avatar interactivity across player is coming soon

[brazen depot]

thanks for the clarification

[quaint jasper]

yeah then they definitely are not getting exported

are you using blender's export or cats ?

[languid fog]

Blender Export

[quaint jasper]

Mind giving cats a try ?

[languid fog]

yeah why not

haha

[languid fog]

same

Pepesad

[quaint jasper]

Save, close blender and restart, could just be fucky

[languid fog]

okey

more 10min for unity to open

[languid fog]

Same...

oh, when i try to "import" the model on a another blender project the Shape keys arent there 2

so it is smth with blender

[quaint jasper]

what about any other model ?

Could also be unity import settings

Or you need to run the auto fix for legacy blendshapes ?

[languid fog]

like, at the main project the shape keys are there and working, but after exporting the model and importing it on a New Project in blender the shape keys are gone

i dont think it is smth with unity

[quaint jasper]

yeah that's kinda odd, what are your export settings >

[languid fog]

idk man, i will give a break at it, I starting to get stressed

[quaint jasper]

Select everything in other types

pretty sure that's your issue

[languid fog]

nope, shape keys still vanishing

...

[quaint jasper]

And you have a single mesh ?

[languid fog]

yes

like, do i need to aply every modifier before doing shape keys?

bc i think thats the issue

[quaint jasper]

what modifiers do you have ?

[languid fog]

Sub and Armature

[quaint jasper]

Can't apply modified to meshes with shapekeys

[languid fog]

so when i export it blender just clean the shape keys to be able to export

isnt it?

[quaint jasper]

It should tell you when trying to apply manually ?

[languid fog]

yep it does

well, time to redo the shape keys

[quaint jasper]

https://github.com/llealloo/join-modifiers-and-shapes

Nah no need

If your shapekeys are good, this addon should work perfectly

[languid fog]

no fckn way

it worked lmao

[quaint jasper]

[languid fog]

second time you saved me, thx m8 haha

[quaint jasper]

no worries, make sure to save a version before applying modifiers though, since the addon is destructive

[languid fog]

ok

[thorny ivy]

4ish hours of tweaking and polishing later, this is how the teeth look now.

Smooth shaded + an outline "shader" done with solidify, something I learned just to make them look a li'l better.

[brazen depot]

so, will colliders keep my hair from entering my body?

[thorny ivy]

If set up in conjunction with dynamic bones, I believe so.

[brazen depot]

do i add a collider component or does the dynamic bone work?

[thorny ivy]

You need to have both.

[brazen depot]

so do i put the collider component on both the hair bone and body bones?

[thorny ivy]

Dynamic bones allows interactions + gravity, colliders are the interaction point.

If I'm rememberin' correctly.

[brazen depot]

o

thanks

isnt it gonna be a lot of colliders? o-o

[thorny ivy]

Most people just have the colliders on hands with dynamic bones on anything that they want interactable or movable. IE: hair, accessories, etc.

[brazen depot]

if i put a collider on the spine, will it keep the hair from going there?

like an invisible wall

[thorny ivy]

I haven't touched that part of Unity in a while so you'll have to do some searchin' for definite answers.

This may help though.
https://www.reddit.com/r/VRchat/comments/7n0jsu/any_tips_on_making_it_so_my_avatars_skirt_cant/

[brazen depot]

oh thanks!!!!

[cosmic merlin]

Do you guys have any idea of How I enable the black outlines? Something like this

[quaint jasper]

Wireframe ?

[cosmic merlin]

I'm new at blender so yeah.

[quaint jasper]

You have display options at the top right corner of the viewport, you can enable that there

[wicked iris]

if you mean the selection modes, shortcut keys 1, 2 and 3 for vertex, edge, face selection modes @cosmic merlin

actual selection buttons on the top left corner of the viewport in edit mode

[spiral sigil]

how do i fix this chin area (retopology)

i'm trying so many things but it just looks awful

[tall phoenix]

So I found this model from vrmodels and I noticed that there's a blend file but when I open it in Blender the model looks like this?

Is there a fix for this?

[quaint jasper]

Are you looking at topology guides already ? Unsure if your question is technical or visual

[spiral sigil]

yes, i am browsing through multiple guides

it's more visual than technical

[quaint jasper]

how does it look in object mode ?

[spiral sigil]

i can't see that...yet

i'm in Retopo's workflow

[quaint jasper]

Probably only worth worrying after you can see it then

[spiral sigil]

Isn't good topology important for optimization, though?

I want the avatar to be rated at least Good (or Medium at worst) whilst having support for Quest users.

[quaint jasper]

No, topology is irrelevant for optimization, topology is for good deformation with bends

polycount is what matters for optimization, but the topology doesn't matter

[devout scroll]

good topology is also easier to work with and decimate

dissolving a handfull of edgeloops to reduce polycount is quite easy if you have good quad topology

[spiral sigil]

That's why I wanna get that bottom chin fixed up in a way it doesn't have problems later on.

I'm in bed now and will wake up in approx. 9h to find more reference pictures and whatnot, or look at the way the OG model did it to somewhat impove on it.

[devout scroll]

one triangle is probably not gonna be a big deal

but if you want to fix it, go ahead. either lookup more topology reference or add another cut towards the neck

[white moth]

does anyone know how to avoid updating FBX files where it suddenly makes all the dynamic bone radius huge by a factor of 100?

[spiral sigil]

For me it is

I always hear the golden rule; don't mix Tris with Quads.

[dreamy epoch]

I always ensure to export from Blender with this setting set:

[devout scroll]

It all gets converted to tris in the end anyway

You want stuff to triangulate well

[devout bison]

I need help please!
I have been playing with shape keys, and for some reason when I use the rotate tool it "scales" the object on that same axis during the movement.
I thought it was maybe something else in my project file causing it, but it even does it when I make a new file and simply apply a shape key to a simple sphere. I took a screen recording to show what I'm talking about.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mRTgJPwtdiYOYJDk3UIvxL5d8D4laFAx/view?usp=sharing

[spiral sigil]

i played around an hour ago and figured out my way

[devout scroll]

Shape keys store verticies and their offsets from the basis shape key

Then their position is interpolated from 0 - 1 (basis - key)

Nothing in between is stored

So it kinda makes sense you're getting this result

[devout bison]

then how would I rotate the object without it distorting?

[devout scroll]

I don't think you should use a shape key for that

Use a bone and animate that rotating in unity

[spiral sigil]

also tip u can just rename a .mkv file to .mp4 in windows explorer and it will convert fine

useful if you want it to embt in discord so ppl dont need to dl it

[devout bison]

thank you

[spiral sigil]

np

[devout bison]

Im trying to set sliders to his eyelids. But even though I only use a simple rotate motion for the shape key, it changes the size of the object in the middle. so I can't do half shut eyes and such because it pulls behind the eye.
can someone please give me some insight?
What am I doing wrong?

[spiral sigil]

VRModels is a website where stolen/leaked/ripped avatars or assets are uploaded
Probably shouldn't use it 🤷‍♂️

But the reason it looks like that in blender is because there are things overlapping on your avatar, either separate meshes or unmerged doubles.
You might also have to setup your materials again.

it looks like it is so high poly lol

The eyelids?

no like

it looks like if I subdivided something amillion times and all the dots just become a black coat

Ahh, sometimes shaders look like that in Blender too when there's nothing in the output

interesting

[spiral sigil]

You would probably have to figure out some Unity stuff to make it work, shapekeys will just take the fastest route to get to where you set them to be and won't take the route that you edited it as

[devout scroll]

I'm not sure, but you can use bones as I mentioned earlier. Both for eye movements and blinking

[obsidian nova]

@devout bison Bone rotations will physically rotate the mesh around the center axis; shape-key transforms will just hop from state A to state B in a straight line, which is why it's cutting through in weird ways.

[devout bison]

okay, thank you.
what steps do you need to get it to work with vrchat then?

[obsidian nova]

Like Pumpkin said. Bone rotations are your best bet.

You can weight paint the eyelid to its own bone & then animate in Unity.

[quick egret]

So a friend of mine is trying to upload a avatar true unity, but the moment he uploads it..he should get the panel for giving the avatar a name and a profile pic. For him everything becomes black. does annyone know why?

[spiral sigil]

not sure what you mean by 'true' but the Unity version rn is 2019.4.31, also when that happens look at the bottom of unity for a red black error bar, click it to open the console and fix the errors its mentioning

[quick egret]

He is using 2019 unity, And i mean a simple upload of a avatar he found, it was already unity

There is no error

Just a black screen

[spiral sigil]

ok, i was in a wrong channel, so i have to repost

is it possible to somehow 'correct' roundness on a rounded loop ?

or am i to manually adjust by hand in hopes to get it right?

NVM

found the solution: Mesh > Transform > To sphere

[obsidian nova]

Is there any way to quickly stack these UV quads on top of eachother without having to do it manually? So that they fill the whole UV map (as squares). It's been hell to do this manually.

Super confused. I feel like this should be simpler.

[quaint jasper]

UVPackmaster has tools to do that, but paid add-on

[obsidian nova]

Thanks! Its only 12$, that's super affordable.

[solar fossil]

he do be a long boy

[cerulean shoal]

wig

[languid fog]

I don't want to weight paint this...

[quaint jasper]

You can weight paint transfer from a cage mesh tbh

https://youtu.be/sfudbU94u_8?t=1099

[languid fog]

Thats nice to know

[cerulean shoal]

among us

the hair is a fucking pain in the ass

[cerulean shoal]

really considering switching Anne's face to use 2d textures instead of 3d eyes and mouth

[brittle nacelle]

Still gotta make the low-poly version so Quest users can see them, but...

[fresh isle]

Bru how

I hate making hair so much, a lot of modeling projects I've started ended on me giving up on the hair bc I just can never do it

[wild tinsel]

yooo thatd be nice to scare people

[solar fossil]

hopefully will be able to finish him before spooky month ends

[wild tinsel]

share it once you make it public please

[solar fossil]

dont think ill make it public since its not my character, its from a show i like that just ended

[wild tinsel]

ahh damn

[spiral sigil]

time to retopologise

[solar fossil]

but anyway, i do recommend the show, its called "interface" by umami

[hushed acorn]

epic

(Old screenshot, his pants and shoes have a little bit more detail now.)

I spent awhile trying to make the freckles look good but you can't really see them tbh

Found a picture of the updated shoes

[tight quartz]

Why is it that in Edit mode this bone move to the correct position but in pose or object mode it goes back?

First photo is object mode

You can also see that the clothing also seems kinda scuffed

[dapper herald]

In edit mode you'd be looking at the current Rest Pose. In Object or Pose mode, you'll be seeing the current "active" pose.

[languid surge]

Never bothered much with scaling my proportions for FBT but i was bored and finally decided to. Any way to scale the bones in post mode in blender, then apply the armature? Blender doesn't want to allow it because I have shape keys on my mesh

[quaint jasper]

I'd suggest using https://github.com/triazo/immersive_scaler

[obsidian nova]

@languid surge What's the purpose of scaling your proportions? Just curious.

Also, Ruuubick, I'm not going to ping you, but christ, thanks for the tip. UVPackMaster is a real gem. Well worth the 12.50$

[quaint jasper]

It really is !

[obsidian nova]

I was spending hours, literally like 5+ hours manually aligning UV quads by hand. 💀 In hindsight, it's insane.

[azure rain]

so that it matches your IRL body proportions better so it's more immersive

[quaint jasper]

If you're doing anything manually for more than 10 minutes, there's likely a tool someone already made that does it for you

[obsidian nova]

Good to know.

[azure rain]

http://www.makehumancommunity.org/

https://vroid.com/en/studio

some tools of that description

[foggy granite]

There are also plenty of free assets in 3d model shops which you can slap together

[frank vine]

Anyone know how to fix a cursed tongue? it has 3 bones, NO CLUE how to select "tongue" to check for weight paint ... uuuh halp? Also it stretches out of my body like nightmare fuel if i crouch or especially when i go prone... (neck is stretched on purpose)

in game test.. its stretched out D:

[obsidian nova]

@sharp sorrel If VRoid isn’t your style, you could try ReadyPlayerMe or Tafi. They’re character creators (albeit stylized) that allow you to download your model & customize further in blender or the 3D modelling app of your choice.

lol, yeahhhhh

It looks like this…

[frank vine]

yes, ive done weight painting, but im starting to think the dynamic bones are parented incorrectly.. what SHOULD the tongue bones be parented to?

[obsidian nova]

Oh, cool, well that makes things easier.

I mean, shouldn’t it just be like hair bones? You parent them to an arbitrary “root” bone that’s then patented to the head.

[frank vine]

lol nooo clue .. this is my first avatar edit lol ive been learning as i go

[obsidian nova]

I mean, check your layers. It should show what bones are parented to which. If there’s no obvious problem, I would un-parent all of your tongue bones & then re-parent them again.

Can you take a screenshot where we can see which bones are parented to which (in the layers panel)?

[frank vine]

its a M E S S

[obsidian nova]

So were my first Avis. No stress.

[frank vine]

no really im having issues FINDING said parent bone D:

[obsidian nova]

Can you unfold this (Armature 001) and all subsequent groups.

And then take a screenshot of just that?

Damn

[frank vine]

Ooooh okay, im looking at those drop downs now, thank ya

[obsidian nova]

I just noticed, it looks like someone stretched the neck, but didn’t adjust the tongue bone accordingly. The tongue bone should be in or near the tongue. Right now it’s in your collarbone. That’s going to cause issues.

Like, everything can be weighted correctly, but if your bones are in the wrong places, it’ll still whack out.

[frank vine]

i stretched the neck up so i could actually SEE the tongue lol i needed to see what it was doing

[obsidian nova]

If you click on your armature & go into edit mode, there should be a little black line that runs from the tongue bone to it’s parent.

[frank vine]

Its actually not though??

[obsidian nova]

Omg, those layers…😅

Umm, honestly, it’ll be hard for me to offer any meaningful advice via Discord. I feel like I’d be able to fix this quickly by myself, but like, I suck at explaining things.

The fact that your tongue stretches like that makes me think that it’s partially weighed to those 3 bones there & partially weighted to something else (a root bone, or something in the head).

[frank vine]

OOOH ... oh no...

found it... thaaank you, edit mode showed me the line.. Ooof

[obsidian nova]

What on earth is that parented to though, like where does the line go?

[frank vine]

hold up lol xD like WHHYY

base of her spine??

[obsidian nova]

Yeah, unparent that…

[frank vine]

so what SHOULD i parent it to? .. she looks cursed but im desperate to fix her! shes sooo pretty, ive dumped over a full week of ALL my waking hours into her.. im nearly mentally DEAD

[obsidian nova]

And then re-parent to the head bone (or whatever bone your hair/ears is parented to).

I mean, have you tried the CATS fix avatar button? Save another version of your file first before doing it, but it can be a lifesaver sometimes…

[frank vine]

i ABSOLUTELY ABUSE that button lmao

she purrty tho hehe im dying to finally use her ❤️

[obsidian nova]

I’d guess either of these.

Or whatever all of your other dynamic bones are parented to (hair, ears etc).

[frank vine]

uuuuh H O W do i do that exactly? im going full potato over here .. pretty sure its not working

[obsidian nova]

In edit mode, right click on your tongue bone (the tiny one furthest back). In the drop-down menu, select “parent” & then “unparent”.

I think. Honestly, I’m not at a computer, so this is all from memory. 😂

[frank vine]

wait i think... hmm i donno i might have. oh i unparented it yeah

[obsidian nova]

Great!

[frank vine]

all three now have the small black lines to that "parent" but should it be just the root one?

[obsidian nova]

Yeah, the tongue bones should be parented to each other (like a chain).

The bots killing me. 💀🤣 Damn sassy.

[frank vine]

lol i "yelled" no more stretchy tongue! chatbot got angy

soo it should look like this then?

[obsidian nova]

Looks better! Try rotating the head/spine in pose mode. See what happens.

You might still have weight painting issues.

[frank vine]

does this look right?

[obsidian nova]

That looks great. The order of Tongue 1, 2 & then tongue seems sus though…Click on them to make sure that they’re not parented in the wrong order.

If it’s parented properly, Tongue1 should be the furthest back, followed by tongue 2 in the middle & tongue at the tip.

[frank vine]

Lol im pretty sure thats how it always was though

[obsidian nova]

Tongue 2 is the middle one?

It’s probably fine, it’s just the names that are messing with me.

[frank vine]

yesh it is ^.^
I DO have another issue thats bad too.. maybe you could help ? D,:

[obsidian nova]

Sure. The tongue should be good! Just test it in pose mode by wiggling things around.

What’s the other thing?

[frank vine]

"Normal face" shhh ignore the constant derp blep and the split face is another issue entirely lol

her emotes (all black, yet another issue im getting to..) BUT her eye is following the emotes that come out of her face..

[obsidian nova]

The issue is the split?

Oh, okay

[frank vine]

its SO cursed halp cries

[obsidian nova]

Do you know where to find your shape keys?