3d-modeling

[jolly verge]

i aint "trusted"

how do i become trusted?

[spiral sigil]

I really like this

Nice work

[visual vigil]

thanks!

i wanted to make a mecha version of my model

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvcXo6PXYAI3OIw?format=jpg&name=large

[spiral sigil]

Oh yeah no, they look great

[naive helm]

Im still very new to 3d modeling, is this any good?

[cloud spear]

wheres the amazing vr modeling software ?

when can i just do it all in vr and with good resoloution / fine tools

[quaint jasper]

Use dyntopo and smooth !

[cloud spear]

cus gravity sketch and masterpeice vr isnt it

[naive helm]

@quaint jasper So its able to be fixed? :0 how ?

I've used dyntopo before

[quaint jasper]

You'll get smoother geometry everywhere which makes it easier to adjust

[cloud spear]

that model kinda looks like yugo from wakfu

[quaint jasper]

Gravity sketch it great https://youtu.be/-uTAueGck2w

[naive helm]

idk who yugo or what wakfu is

[cloud spear]

yeah i dunno how to opperate splines in vr tho

that so confusing to me

id rather like shape mold like a clay sculpture

[naive helm]

Just looked it up, yeah it does :0

It was supposed to be just a red panda wearing like goku type pants idk lmao

[cloud spear]

lol

[naive helm]

Also put on a tv head for him

I'm scared to go any further I dont want to mess it up

[cloud spear]

do not fear

for that is what undo button for

[naive helm]

undo only goes so far

@quaint jasper I wanted to redo it since I didnt think it could be fixed

How would I remodel him with new topology tho

like with poly building

that would work?

When I did that before it put holes in it

sorry idk if i should put the @spiral sigil or not I dont like bothering people haha

i was actually looking for that

omg

tysm

I feel like crying I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT FOR HOURS

[cinder cradle]

I thought this was pretty popular vid

not hard to find

[quaint jasper]

When you don't use the word retopology it's pretty hard to find what you need

[naive helm]

I didnt know how to search it

^

God youre a life saver

[cinder cradle]

@naive helm doesn't your temp folder in windows have older versions when you didn't break that

[naive helm]

It gradually broke

[cinder cradle]

temp folder holds auto saves.

[naive helm]

and I wanted to do this anyways since I needed to

[cinder cradle]

well k

[naive helm]

@quaint jasper should I just retopologize the whole thing like this ?

[visual vigil]

quad retopologize

dont do ngons or tris

[spiral sigil]

Still needs a couple fixes

And it done :D

Well almost

[signal helm]

Cool

@naive helm some tips to make your model looks more cool, always check the autosmooth👍🏻

[manic phoenix]

im now in the process of cleaning up and rescanning my face and hands for my 3d scan of myself. once it is cleaned up i will be able to rig it and send it off to vrchat

this was created with around 1.5 gigabytes worth of photo data

ive already cleaned up the body and you can see the reason i have to clean up the hands an face

[south saddle]

I’m guessing you did that with a drone with 3D map scan for planing roots normally but I guess this works

[young vault]

You could do AV3.0, but, if you really want 2.0, you can separate it by separating the eyes from the main mesh with p and then rename the shapekey and join all the meshes.

[clear geyser]

You don't have to remake it. Put your blink blendshape in left blink only and put right blink to basis and it'll generate fine

[hardy lake]

hello guys, can someone help me understand how i can retopo/optimize an open zipper on a jacket? im thinking of retopoing it to a kind of a box shape, and then using cutout, but im really not sure how would that work?

or does alpha only work on flat planes?

[young vault]

Uh, it'd work, but, it'd look pretty meh. Have you tried thinking about how many points really need to be there to give the illusion of a zipper?

Or rather, have it look like one

Cause a zipper has 9 main points. Six on the body, and 3 on the connector. And then it's all about how many control points you want in between (at least 2 to give it some curvature). So, one side of the zipper would at least to give the illusion of a somewhat detailed low-poly zipper is 11 vertices, on two sides, so 22 vertices total.

[hardy lake]

so you're saying it needs to be actually modeled anyway? just super low poly

[young vault]

You could go away with planes and have them double-sided too.

[hardy lake]

yeah but im afraid a flat zipper would be very noticeable in vr on a jacket T_T

[young vault]

It would

[deep dirge]

Why would you want that much detail for a zipper

Just use a texture

[quick panther]

does anyone have morgana's weapon as an fbx model

all i found was an xps model

[reef stratus]

@neat viper it goes black and purple when i have it into render mode

[neat viper]

either might not have a material, or might be using the wrong texture on the material o:
in Object Mode, select the model and check to see if it's using an image texture? o:

[reef stratus]

how do i get into object mode

[neat viper]

note that you should be in it automatically when you open Blender o:

[reef stratus]

ohhhh haha sorry

[neat viper]

you're fine! c:

[reef stratus]

how do i check that because i dont know

[neat viper]

Image I linked describes it - if the Base Color field looks like this, it's using an image texture

[reef stratus]

agh i dont know where thatis im sorry its just very confusing for me :(

[neat viper]

you're fine! Click the Material Properties tab here:

would def recommend looking into some tutorials on Blender 2.9 as well c:

[reef stratus]

its showing me this

and yeah ill defo look at some tutorials

[neat viper]

It is using an image texture then, from what I can see o:
also note that you can drag that side-panel out to make it wider

[reef stratus]

oh yeah

oh okay so is that bad if its an image texture

[neat viper]

that's fine! It means that it's just using an image as it's texture lol, though it's weird that it's showing up as purple and black

[reef stratus]

yeah some parts that are meant to be red are red but almost everything else is black and purple

[neat viper]

also just to verify, are you in Material Preview mode? o:

also might want to check to make sure that all the materials are using their respective image textures (specifically the color/albedo textures in the Main Color channel, and not the normal/roughness/specular etc maps in the Main Color channel instead)

[reef stratus]

im in material preview mode now

[reef stratus]

i dont know howto do that

[neat viper]

Check to make sure that the image texture's name looks right (a material named Head would probably have an image texture called "head_color" for example) on each material - you can switch the material you're looking at by clicking on it in the list

obviously texture names vary wildly but yus lol

[reef stratus]

like here

because its all black light pink dark pink and redish

[quaint jasper]

Why do you have dozens of materials in the first place ?

[reef stratus]

i dont know its just like that

ive never used blender before

[clear geyser]

Make sure the alpha on your materials is set to 1

Those settings are right underneath your materials. Just gotta scroll down a bit

[quaint jasper]

Click next to the material list too "remove unused materials"

[reef stratus]

should i do that to everything

[reef stratus]

where would taht be

[clear geyser]

If it's show up black then yeah

[reef stratus]

should i still do the ones that are pink

[clear geyser]

The ones that are pink usually indicate that Blender can't find the file path to your texture. You can go to file --> External Data --> Find missing files. And from there select the folder where your textures are located

[reef stratus]

ohhh okay thanks

yeah that worked but the boots are still pink

[gritty vapor]

working on her police officer avatar

[quaint jasper]

S

[cinder cradle]

s for scale

you first need to select bones which you want scale and press s

ofc in edit mode

[gritty vapor]

done

[cinder cradle]

looks cute

[gritty vapor]

she might work with the police

[cinder cradle]

she looks like she is tired.

[gritty vapor]

but she doesn't wear shoes in public because she is a furry

[cinder cradle]

that is understandable

[frigid swift]

could someone help me with attaching stuff like a hat to my advtar

[violet charm]

How does it look so far? Editing everything together. Need to make sure the wrists are good with the jacket

[signal helm]

That looks pretty good👍🏻

[latent mesa]

another fox girl to join :3

[vital drift]

meow :3

[latent mesa]

meow meow :3

[vital drift]

I said meow cause you said fox girl.....I was trying to be the funny 😢

[latent mesa]

why sad face? 😦 I was tryin to be cute back

[vital drift]

https://tenor.com/view/hella-sus-among-us-imposter-impostor-digibyte-gif-19824591

[stark ore]

[vital drift]

https://tenor.com/view/stewie-gone-psycho-insane-send-help-family-guy-gif-7916038

[vital drift]

my offbrand model of my friend MR_EM

[spiral sigil]

Cute

Love it

[signal helm]

Kawaii

[jolly verge]

anyone want a custom anime avatar?

[signal helm]

Cool

[carmine wedge]

finally finished hh

[cinder cradle]

i like colors

maybe ears can have some different color too that could fit

[carmine wedge]

yeah im thinking about turning them white

[cinder cradle]

try white and gray

[carmine wedge]

ok

[vapid tendon]

im new to blender and when i load blender i just get a cube how do i make it a sphere

[quaint jasper]

I'd suggest you find a basic tutorial on youtube, or you'll have to ask a question for everything you want to do

[fossil drift]

i tried

i need help just adding it to unity and save it'

i need someone to do it for me bc i tried two hours straight

[cinder cradle]

adding avatar to unity isn't hard if you watch tutorials

[median harness]

https://twitter.com/riremakar/status/1367212723159891970?s=19

EmilyMakar (@riremakar)

Over the last few weeks, I've modeled two player characters from PSO2 for VRChat. Meet Eden and Emilia, a Deuman Luster and CAST Phantom respectively. More pictures in replies!

Twitter · Mar 3, 2021, 8:38 PM

[signal helm]

Very cool

[violet charm]

Anyone know whats up? Its together in Blender

[quaint jasper]

The hair needs to be weight painted to the head bone

[violet charm]

Okay thanks

[violet charm]

I found vroid hair and put it into Blender as part of the model and it worked that way

[thorny ivy]

Update of that head model I shared a few days ago. Flatted the sides, adjusted the ears so they fit accordingly, repositioned the eyes, shaped the sockets to actually wrap around them and look more natural, filled out the brow arches more, made the lips more pronounced, and sculpted the cheeks/jaw further. I'd like to hear what @young vault has to say specifically since they gave the most feedback on the previous iteration.

Previous iteration can be seen here.

End-goal is mature/older but somewhat chubby as the body is similar; definitely not lacking any meat.

[violet charm]

Youre good Cinna. Detail is great

[vital drift]

if you know MR_EM then meet Sir_DNA

[vital drift]

Feesh

[lime marlin]

https://twitter.com/LyconVR/status/1366824059049230337?s=20

Lycon (@LyconVR)

Some more "final" renders on my new character!

100% done by me Sculpt>Retopo>weight painting >UVs in Blender+Texturing in Substance
#VRChat #3dart #characterdesign #SubstancePainter

Twitter · Mar 2, 2021, 6:53 PM

[signal helm]

Oof wow

[pearl arch]

so i was wondering of like theres things like not making avatars but more of like little sections like making helmets or say stuff they can hold, do people do that and is that something i can get into?

[steady zealot]

Not sure what you mean. You can definitely make those things if you want to. If you're asking if there's a specific place to show them off, this channel is fine for it

[tight quartz]

How do I add bones to a part. As you can see I wanna make that small area of fluff moveable since it looks really weird in VRChat

I am new to adding bones to models, and the videos on Youtube is not really helping me.

[neat viper]

In Edit mode with your armature selected, either make a new bone from the Add menu and move it up to the part you want, or extrude from an existing bone with E - then make a new vertex group with the same name as the bone and weight-paint to that

also, would probably recommend #avatar-rigging instead though keep rule 15 in mind o:

[tight quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-black-kid-gif-3535805

woops

Didn't know it existed. 😅

[neat viper]

lmao you're fine! c:

[zenith blade]

heyo, i took a break for a few months to upgrade my potato and opened up some on my experimental in progress stuff, i was new then so i'm still new to 3d modelling.
Know what might be causing this? I figured I'd try and solve it to practice troubleshooting errors but I have no idea
I like the way the model looks, and iirc its a vroid model edited but none of the other in progress versions look like this.

[brave compass]

New-ish to VRC But decided I wanted to make my own avatar, so here's one I've been working on on and off. Have her uploaded and working, but still need to fix a few skinning issues and add more facial animations for emotions and stuff.

https://i.gyazo.com/6909f9bd3550ff20f66fa6c253e02b3e.png

[vital drift]

still trying to remember how to 3dsmax well, but im liking it so far :~

[vital drift]

are you able to mess with smoothing groups?

smoothing groups make the shape smooth, instead of rough looking for very jagged, i guess thats how i can explain it

[naive helm]

Hey could I get some help with my model ? Its supposed to look like this

I made it so sorry if it looks shit lol

But the fbx exports it as this monstrosity

backface culling is turned off on all materials

[brave compass]

Looks like potentially a smoothing issue to me. Might want to shade it smooth in blender first before exporting.

[naive helm]

Here ? @brave compass

[brave compass]

One way to do it, yep

[naive helm]

faces or edges?

[brave compass]

try faces first

[naive helm]

made the mouth a lil fucky

also didnt fix the issue D:

[quaint jasper]

How do you always manage to get that topology ?

[naive helm]

Wdym ?

[quaint jasper]

Do you not enable dyntopo like we suggested ?

[naive helm]

Nono I do

just very new, and this is an older one of my models I just redid the head

[quaint jasper]

Do you decimate it to 0.1 at the end ?

Ok, you can still do retopo manually then, won't be too difficult

[naive helm]

I honestly suck at it ,_,

makes it look less polyed than before

But about the transparency ? any help with that

[quaint jasper]

Flip normals

[naive helm]

How?

[quaint jasper]

By selecting the mesh and doing flip normals

[naive helm]

alt n?

[quaint jasper]

idk, i use the search bar for most things i don't use often

[naive helm]

Yo

That fixed it

How can I fix the shading on the mouth tho?

[quaint jasper]

by fixing the mesh

[naive helm]

Oh wait flat faces shading fixed it

[quaint jasper]

but then you're back with an unsmoothed mesh

[naive helm]

Wdym?

[quaint jasper]

You shouldn't use flat shading on a mesh like that

[naive helm]

Oh

I think it came out pretty ok XD

[spiral sigil]

bruh

[zenith blade]

Powerful

[naive helm]

BRUH LMAO

[vivid crater]

[clever bramble]

I need help with something, I just imported a model and it is very... tiny.

how do I make it bigger?

[cinder cradle]

press a and s to scale

[clever bramble]

my cursor turns into two arrows and just moves the model around.

[cinder cradle]

moves around? that sounds more like button g

[clever bramble]

does that make the model get larger?

[cinder cradle]

button s makes model larger or smaller

you should watch basic tutorial on blender

[clever bramble]

I just see white lines outwardly extending.

[zenith blade]

I'm really new to blender but typically I find that problem is solved by joining the meshes if there are multiple.

[visual vigil]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evoc1ocXMAUGeUi?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evoc2sHXEAAlqkY?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evoc4CrXUAAH_Hn?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evoc6x5XAAUtpGx?format=jpg&name=360x360

[vital drift]

feeesh

[tame sinew]

Does anyone know of a free model of a docking bay from Star Wars? Or even a landing pad?

[spiral sigil]

hi

[zenith blade]

Anyone have tips on reorganizing a messy blend file? I know about remove unused mats, but just general organization tips would be cool.

[languid fog]

@zenith blade do you mean the scene?

[neat viper]

would recommend CATS blender plugin - especially the bake feature o:

Combines materials and can make a Quest-happy decimated version of your avatar in a couple clicks

[zenith blade]

I'll mess around with the bake feature, thanks, my biggest struggle so far is asking the right questions haha

[carmine wedge]

took forever

[lean yoke]

Im importing a model that i worked with a year ago, and it was fine back then, but when im importing its see throuth now and even if i flip the normals, its still see through. But when i import into unity, it looks fine.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/802920110955560964/817389451390746654/why.PNG

[paper drum]

So, I made a 3d model in blender and I rigged it

How do I get it into vrchat?

[spiral sigil]

export it as an fbx file

[paper drum]

Do I just upload it after that?

I dont know anything about rigged models

Just the rigging in blender

[lusty wren]

does anyone have any tips on making a tuxedo for my avatar?

[devout scroll]

Look at standard unity humanoid rig

Pretty much any vrchat avatar tutorial should go over it

[paper drum]

Ok thanks

So once its rigged I import to unity as .fbx and then what?

[devout scroll]

Set the rig type to humanoid then configure it, look up a tutorial

There's only like 2 steps in unity

[paper drum]

Ok thanks!

[lusty wren]

should i just make the tux?

[paper drum]

Ive been losing my mind with the tutorials since none of them explain what to do if you model from scratch

[lusty wren]

or just like a tie?

[zenith blade]

I've been watching rainhet Chaneru. Theres a very in dept series from scratch to uv, weight paints, etc. I was actually here to ask a question about how mirror modifiers transfer to unity, I mirror drew my eyelashes but only one showed up- I just went back and duplicated and flipped the one i had and it worked fine aside from needing to fix the blink
I think I misunderstood how the mirror modifier works when I was watching rainhet

[still wadi]

gotta apply it

[zenith blade]

Thanks. Your old streams are my other go to when I'm looking for tips or solutions!

[carmine wedge]

(wip) inspired Kuchisake-onna

[wintry hull]

Does anyone know how to take a mesh in blender and apply back face culling when no shader is on? this is for my models hair.

[frank plank]

How do I toggle clothes like change them on a 3.0 avatar that is made in vroid

[quaint jasper]

Why are those two meshes separate ?

[quaint jasper]

#avatar-help

[wintry hull]

It's one mesh when I export i'm just working on separate pieces of the model

[frank plank]

How with a vroid model

[devout scroll]

Solidify it

(F3 to search for it in edit mode, it doesn't have to be the modifier)

[wintry hull]

got it and it worked, thanks 👍

[quaint jasper]

Why are the normals facing the wrong way ?

[cinder cradle]

to test you need to be new user too i think

[quaint jasper]

Read the thing

[cinder cradle]

?upload

[split granite]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[cinder cradle]

to test you need to be new user too

[frank plank]

I tried to ask them but they would ignore me or tell me to come here

[quaint jasper]

Look for tutorials in that case, but it's not a question for this channel

[heady onyx]

@carmine wedge Your models are cute AF

[carmine wedge]

awww ty

[frank plank]

That’s why I came because the tutorials either only use one or use some other object

[frozen marsh]

I'm a sculptris user having trouble with high poly count, please dm me to help me and lower poly some of my models and you will get 3 free models

[quaint jasper]

Retopology/decimation

[queen elbow]

3 models for a solution THAT easy?

Ruuubick gave you the solution btw

[frozen marsh]

i didnt know what retopology meant but i found mixamo

if mixamo was a person i would pay them

[violet charm]

Hey. Where do I go for Avatar weight painting? I recorded a session and noticed the back of my hair flopped all around

[chrome hare]

in blender, click the mesh, then go where it says "object mode" and change to "weight painting"

then on the right side you can open the tab with an upside down triangle icon to see your bones

[spiral sigil]

yes

[bold urchin]

I'm curious about how other people would handle this.
Not a question about fitting the feet into the shoes.

My question is how people will handle for when I want to add something so I can have the shoes and not have the shoes. Because the positions for the feet and the toe bones don't much up very well when the boots are removed etc.
How exactly would I get this to work and look good? Because of if I just use the bones from the shoes and turn off the shoes, I'll just be floating like four inches in the air. But if I use the bones from the feet as my basis when I have the shoes on I'll be embedded in the ground when using the shoes.

I'm not sure what the best way to approach this is..

[spiral sigil]

you'll either be floating or stuck in the ground

no way around that issue

[bold urchin]

That's a bit of a yikes I suppose. Hm.

[devout scroll]

I think people use blendshapes to change the foot to fit whether there's a shoe or no shoe

But I guess you'll need the bone to match the shoe either time

[quaint jasper]

Yeah corrective blendshapes seems like the best way

[still wadi]

https://i.imgur.com/oR33tRi.png

wip

[spiral sigil]

Hay you all 3d-Modeler I have a change for you all

To make something

[naive helm]

You know in edit mode when you're selecting something and it doesnt quite select everything you tried to select

like the back of the model doesnt get selected-

How could I uh- fix? that

talking about blender

I cant find anything online about it

[spiral sigil]

xray mode/ wire mode ?

[naive helm]

How

(sorry dont know if I should've put the @spiral sigil )

[spiral sigil]

If you're on 2.8+, it's a small button in the top right of your edit/3d view that looks like two squares overlapping one another

2.79b and below, I believe it's on the bottom toolbar with a similar icon

[vivid spindle]

quick question...I know people commission avatars to be custom made...What about clothing?

[vital drift]

I think she needs to wear her shoe correctly 😂

[vital drift]

I know, just a little joke

Cause funny moment rn

[white moth]

How do I get surface normals to not do this? I want a smooth sphere, it's smooth in blender.

[neat viper]

Make sure that the polygons aren't marked as sharp in Blender - also, trying a toon/flat shader might help too if possible?

[white moth]

Looks like it's the shader itself ignoring smoothing for unity shadows

swapped shaders

[spiral sigil]

im taking art and making them into models so this is what i did so far this is my first time

[quaint jasper]

You should look into SVGs

[spiral sigil]

is that a software or a file to use in blender?

[quaint jasper]

file type, i'd suggest you look up how to make one from your image

[hardy lake]

i have an issue that when my avatar is crouching the knees go inwards, how can i fix that?

[spiral sigil]

bones probably too straight

show rig from front and side view

[spiral sigil]

side view is fine

the lower leg is slightly bend backward, that's what you want

but from front you

the leg bones are bend inward

that's bad

you want them to be completely straight

[hardy lake]

alright, thank you so much! do you reckon it will be alright if the bone is slightly outside of the knee? if i push the middle point between upper and lower leg outward

[spiral sigil]

I couldn't tell you since i've never seen that type of rig configuration

leg bones are normally always connected

[paper drum]

Does anyone know how to use mtoon to make a material look metallic?

[paper drum]

Nvm, it's fine ish now

[still wadi]

@hardy lake u need to straighten them out and then match the mesh

they go inwards cuz they are bent inwards

[hardy lake]

thank you for the advice, i straightened the bones, now i need to test it in vr ^^

[proper wyvern]

So I have layers on a dress. What is the best way to highlight the layers if the dress is black?

Also how to fix this weird issue?

Like I have no idea why its being like this and its not the metallic thing.

[neat viper]

You might have overlapping polygons, or flipped normals?

[proper wyvern]

Nope. Neighter of those is the issue. 🤔

I tried out those weird shading options in Blender and it somehow flipped this up I think...

[neat viper]

Shade Smooth can look weird without a lot of polygons o:

[proper wyvern]

I really hope its not going to look like this in VRC..

[neat viper]

If the issue goes away with the different shading setting in Blender, it's likely fine lol - obv how it'll look in VRChat will depend on the shader

[proper wyvern]

True... I just WANT this... It looks sooo good... 😫 💖 I actually made a dress and it should be so simple that I hopefully have very little issues in making this avatar excellent.

[halcyon citrus]

I wouldn't worry too much since depending on the shader, it'll likely fix that issue.

Also messing with the material like specular might help if it's too distracting to work with.

[unborn acorn]

Maybe try making the edges marked as sharp

This is without the sharp

and heres an example with the sharp edges applied

[proper wyvern]

uuuu... 🙂

[vital drift]

done, i think.... might edit some things on, then its rigging time

[wild valley]

don't suppose any could give me a hand working out how to go from a stl file to one i can use in vrchat

[neat viper]

Import the STL into Blender, unwrap it's UVS (and rig it if needed) and export it as an .FBX c:

[wild valley]

Thank you zuvali

[neat viper]

yw! c:

[cedar steppe]

is there any way i can delete the bottom half? the neck bottom part keeps sticking out of every model so im trying to figure out how to delete the bottom part

[neat viper]

Select the mesh in object mode, go to Edit mode and select the verts/edges/faces you want to delete, then press Delete

[cedar steppe]

cheers

[thorny ivy]

Any tips for modeling eyelids? First attempt looks pretty awful due to the simplity.

[proper wyvern]

snake hook is your best friend in sculpting.

[thorny ivy]

Okay, so, what do I do with it exactly?

[proper wyvern]

Drag the mesh the way you want it to go, then smooth/add to it if you feel like it. Snake hook is an interesting tool. It works in mysterious ways but once you figure it out its your best friend. Trust me.

[thorny ivy]

So should I have the eyelids be seperate from the actual face mesh or part of it?

Looks part of it from the pic.

[proper wyvern]

The tool moves the mesh in a circular manner. It goes which ever direction you move your mouse to. Use that info to your advantage. I used that took a lot when I sculpted my avatar.

Part of it.

[thorny ivy]

Alright. Should I shape the eyelid first and then combine the two or using the pre-existing face geo to create the eyelids?

[proper wyvern]

First make the hole for the eye, add the eyeball, then shape the eyelids around them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lso8KitmchY

Watch this video

Just made this in like 5 minutes just to prove it to you that snake hook is a life saver.

[wild valley]

I know it seem dodge but its not i have a modle thats in a .unity3d format is there away get it to a use able file type like fbx or obj that i can then use in blender

(Its a dnd charater i have on tabletop sim from hero forged)

[thorny ivy]

Think my issue is the geo around the eye. It's already semi-shaped around it but the depth(?) is throwing me for a loop.

[proper wyvern]

How the flip did you manage to do this?

[thorny ivy]

...do what?

[proper wyvern]

Are you sculpting or doing this the other way?

That is INCREDIBLY clean for a sculpt

[thorny ivy]

Sculpting mainly with manual adjustments for some vertices.

I started with a base I found online but made heavy modifications, especially after I replaced the eyes with my own.

[proper wyvern]

Well get ready for your beautiful work of art to look like a mess since now youre going to go into tool and check the dyntopo on and start using the snake hook to mold the eyelids around the eyeball. Its going to add a lot of vertz but you can EITHER decimate them or just retopologize the face after the sculpting phase is over.

Basically you use the tool like this:

While also from the side view you do this:

Then you smooth it and repeat until it looks good enough for you

Personally I went with the decimate route since I couldnt get the retopology thing to work on my end but for each their own 😄 Its good enough and my avatar is excellent so HA! First time making something from scratch and im damn proud.

Original before decimation:

[thorny ivy]

How does this look?

[wintry vector]

how come sometimes I can see seams in substance painter and they're really noticible? But the seams are required to unwrap the UVs correctly. So how can I mitigate this?

[violet charm]

Finally got my avatar done. Now can work on the animations. The textures is always the hard part

[fringe rock]

Looking forward to see you post more in this discord about it.

[fringe rock]

Add more padding

[thorny ivy]

Made a fair bit of progress. Added eyelid edge, tweaked the geo, and then resize the eye + socket because they seemed quite small when I actually took a look at the whole head.

Due to the resize, need to make the eyelids actually hug the eye again but now that I know what I'm doing, shouldn't take too long.

Eye texture is a WIP, not sure how transparency works in 2.8/2.9 so decided to half the lense so the pupil can actually be seen.

The dark black is actually 100% transparent for the texture but Blender's rendering as black for whatever reason.

[rancid sigil]

hey Guys, does anyone got good creepy face textures for male avatars or knows how to find or even make them? its my first time creating my own avatar and its a little bit hard to get in all that stuff xD

[strange wadi]

Was wondering if anyone could give me some feedback on anything I could do to improve this, anything that looks wrong (not sure if I need to censor this or not it doesn't have any genitalia or anything but discord won't let me send it if I don't)

New to 3D modelling humans, this is my first attempt at a female body and third attempt at a human in general so go easy on me please

[median pike]

youre going to get problems when rigging the face if you dont have proper topology. decimation isnt enough in a case like this

[proper wyvern]

Im aware. Im not going to make the face move so on my end its all good the way it is. 🙂

Like theres literally only one eye you see so its not really needed.

[median pike]

its still good practice that I recommend you do.

[proper wyvern]

Ill do on another avatar at some point once I figure out why the snap to tool doesnt work with my sculpts. I literally need to use shrinkwrap and cylinders to retolopo things.... Its that ridiculous.

[median pike]

these are my settings and they work just fine

than when moving things I just hold CTRL

[proper wyvern]

Those are the ones I used as well but they dont snap.

[median pike]

and usually on top of that I have a subdiv surface and a shrink wrap modifier

are your meshes normals correct?

[proper wyvern]

Aand this is the moment when I need a translator because I dont know what you mean with this question X3

[median pike]

are the normals on the mesh flipped or no?

turn on face orientation and see if they are flipped or no

red means flipped blue means correct

[proper wyvern]

Ah you mean that thing

No theyre all fine

[median pike]

than you probably changed something in your blender

no idea

[thorny ivy]

Bulk up the shoulders, arms, and legs as a whole. Poor gal's practically a stick figure everywbere but her hips and waist.

[strange wadi]

Thanks, will do. They were originally really bulky, probably overdid it when I made em smaller

[thorny ivy]

Don't need to make her t h i c c or anything but barely more then bones right now.

[strange wadi]

Yeah I get that, I actually made em smaller on a friend's suggestion originally

[thorny ivy]

There's slim and then there's that.

Try to follow the natural shape bodies typically have in a healthy weight range.

[strange wadi]

This was before the most recent change I made to the shoulders, that look alright?

I originally made a male model that I adapted into this, the arms on that were originally huge

[thorny ivy]

Shoulder slope does look better.

[strange wadi]

Alright, thanks for the advice I was thinking they were looking too small by this point

[cedar steppe]

anyone know where i can find a model i could use to replicate this shoulder

[thorny ivy]

Remember that bodies vary person-to-person so there's no definitive shape they have but they do follow the same basic layout and the same rules for structure.

[languid fog]

I just open the chat i saw that...i think i going to have nightmares tonight ,_,

[strange wadi]

Thanks man, not like I spent time and effort on that or anything

[languid fog]

Btw it is like Cinna said, try to have a "flow" on your mesh

Like that

More natural

But that depends on your taste

[thorny ivy]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ef/e5/b6/efe5b6f802524b8a139384ca17b601cb.jpg

[languid fog]

Perfect

[thorny ivy]

Pick a shape that seems fitting and go for it.

Alternatively, just look at refs which seem good for what you had in mind and go from there.

[languid fog]

@strange wadi did you sculpt it?

[strange wadi]

No, I've just modelled it normally

[languid fog]

Oh ok

[strange wadi]

Arms look a little better now cinna?

[thorny ivy]

Seems like 90% of the stylzed female avatars suffer from anerexia (being underweight) so they aren't a good basis for semi-realistic avatars.

[strange wadi]

Yeah, I think that is a problem, stylised usually just means sexualised

[thorny ivy]

Better, yes, but still need more meat on them. Try to have them match the shoulder in bulk.

[strange wadi]

At least with female models. Not trying to go for that here, I want to try make it realistic proportions

Do the shoulders look alright to you in that latest image?

That's sorta how I had them originally

[thorny ivy]

Her forearms are still non-existant by the way.

[strange wadi]

Yeah, I don't have a lot of time but I'll work on that later

[thorny ivy]

This is a side-view but could make a decent ref.

https://skinnyms.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/7-Best-Arm-Workouts-for-Women-Who-Feel-Self-Conscious-About-Their-Arms.jpg

[strange wadi]

Thanks, appreciate it

By the way, while you're here this was the male model I made originally, I know the chest is scuffed but anything else on that?

[thorny ivy]

Arms still look whack, legs lack any real muscle shape.

Basically, ask yourself "could I see a regular person who looks like this IRL?"

[strange wadi]

Problem there is besides myself I don't see many guys in underwear IRL lol

[devout scroll]

You got google for that

https://puu.sh/HmumE/d05c1f3243.png

made a pressure sprayer

[spiral sigil]

horny

[devout scroll]

anti horny

probably

[spiral sigil]

3 liters won't be enough

[strange wadi]

That'd be a cool thing to 3D print if you could make it functional mechanically

[knotty hawk]

even though the vertices have been merged, it still looks like this, anybody know how to fix this?

[proper wyvern]

Ask yourself this question: "Am I or am I not going to have clothes on this avatar and how much of my work on the muscle tone is truly going to be seen underneath said clothes?"

[strange wadi]

I mean with both of them I'm giving them clothes, just wanted to learn how to model a body properly with them really

But the arms and legs might be visible depending on what clothing it is

Kinda the reason I didn't put too much energy into fixing the chest on the male model

[proper wyvern]

Ahh... Well id recommend learning to draw body proportions before making them 3D just because theres so much material on that in books etc. It helped me at least. Id say that youre doing a pretty good job though. I drew a few definitive lines for you to put your attention on if you truly want to make an in detail body.

I seriously spent way too much time trying to draw with the screenshot tool XD But yea.

Basically im trying to say is that you should focus on these details:

Also best reference is you so go in front of a mirror and play with lights.

[frozen marsh]

For some reason this buff creature is cu5e

[strange wadi]

Oh damn thank you so much man I really appreciate that, super useful. For the male model I was primarily using a mirror for it, didn't really have any other reference. Which is why I struggled so much more making the female one.

I have zero drawing skill which kinda rules learning to draw them out

[frozen marsh]

Cute*

[strange wadi]

Uh thank you haha I thought it was more creepy tbh

[frozen marsh]

I wonder if someone here rigs jaws

[strange wadi]

Based it on my pfp

[frozen marsh]

It's adorable

It's myself

[proper wyvern]

Like you can kinda use these as a reference but not too much since this do be a spider creature X3

[frozen marsh]

I should not be allowed to use 3d modeling software

[frozen marsh]

This looks amazing yoooo

[frozen marsh]

Yes, muscles

I wish I could do that

[stark ore]

Nice body sculpt

[proper wyvern]

Years of 2D drawing and art classes...

[frozen marsh]

Oh. I am self taught

Well everyday I stare at lots of art pieces

[proper wyvern]

Just ignore the hands X3 This sculpt is still unfinished.

[frozen marsh]

I can't see the hands

[proper wyvern]

Keeps saying upload failed XD

[frozen marsh]

Wait upload?

Y gonna turn it into avatar?

[proper wyvern]

Im trying to upload a screenshot but apparently my dimensions are wrong for discord

[frozen marsh]

Dang :(

[stark ore]

I been working on a 2d/3d hybrid avatar, coming along nicely. Depends on alot of av3 logic to work

[frozen marsh]

I love it

[stark ore]

Not home so i can't get the full picture

[frozen marsh]

Is it a Japanese yokai?

[stark ore]

Not really, i usually pick a theme or emotion to design on

[frozen marsh]

I said it because it reminded me of a mythology woman with a back mouth in the head

[stark ore]

Theme was "full of emotion" it has alot of high beat expressions

[frozen marsh]

OMG you make emotions

dies from envy Cuz my models don't even have a jaw

[proper wyvern]

My god... This upload failed thing is killing me DX

[stark ore]

Oof

[frozen marsh]

Yeah it's disgusting right?

[proper wyvern]

Why the flip can I not upload a picture of my spider :/

Discord hates spiders confirmed?

[ashen stag]

Lies

[frozen marsh]

I want to see spiders

Spiders cute

I saved a spider from my sink last day

[stark ore]

When im home i'll post some images showing topo n bone structure

[frozen marsh]

Oki!

[proper wyvern]

Lets see if I bested the Discord thingy:

Good enough

Thats right Discord! Read that image!

Im pretty sure Discord either hates spiders or thought that I had defined boobs on my model..

[ashen stag]

It's horrible 👍

It thought it was a naked lady, doesnt check for cursed stuff

That face is going to cause nightmares for sure though

[proper wyvern]

Well if Discord thought that it was defined enough to go for a real lady then... 😉

[stark ore]

Lol

Disturbing but looks good

Looks fun to retopo :new_moon_with_face:

[proper wyvern]

Id say she looks extremely beautiful 🙂

[uncut moss]

that looks fun!

[proper wyvern]

Dont you even mention it XD

[ashen stag]

Yeah flower if you've seen some of the other things people have made spider wise its beautiful really

[proper wyvern]

My beauty standards are fucked 😅 💖

[ashen stag]

How many legs is she going to have? I see 3 pairs from those pictures but I'm unsure

[proper wyvern]

3 on each side and then a flippy flip which is something I was thinking of using the tail mechanic on at some point :3

[ashen stag]

Good luck on the IK when you get to it! Less dragging at least with only 3 pairs

[proper wyvern]

im so looking forward to this 😅 💖

Can we take a moment and RIP btw? Too much work has been put on this one XD

[ashen stag]

Sculpted topology makes me sick, I know zbrush has super easy ways to at least clean topology of sculpted meshes but I doubt it takes imports

[uncut moss]

This is My first Avatar from 0 in progress, I am just learning Blender and I think its going in right direction!
Retopo sounds horrible work so I try to work my way with low poly 😄 Today I spend some time with muscles, hands/arms wont hit the mark today, but maybe tomorrow!
Next I try to make this more ready, so I could start rigging in some point and start drawing textures ^^

[ashen stag]

Retopo isnt as bad as people say it is, its usually just tedious. But then again I don't sculpt because fuck that. Looks good though! Medusa is always a fun concept

[strange wadi]

That hair looks awesome

[uncut moss]

Hair was the easiest part 😄 just some curve tubes 😄
Thank you! ^^

[strange wadi]

Are two meshes being joined at the knee there? Looks like there's a bit of a jump

[uncut moss]

nope, It just look like that at the moment ! I will hit it with some smooth tool later

[strange wadi]

And easy or not I think it looks really cool lol

Are you gonna try rig it? You could have them move around

[uncut moss]

Well Im gonna rig it, but im not sure how i will do it, I dont want to use too many dynamic bones, I was thinking somesort of animation for the snakes so they could move a little and maybe use minimum dynamic bones, I want this to be optimized avatar ^^

[strange wadi]

Don't quote me on this but I think you should be able to do a normal animation with it and have it as a setting with the new avatars

Pretty sure you could do that sort of thing with avatars 2.0 overriding gestures

[ashen stag]

Keep in mind you can use chains of constraints to mimic IK, you could make some snakes look towards specific points like where your hands are pointing or where your eyes are looking

[strange wadi]

Still need to learn how IK works from a programming standpoint tried it once before with little success

Though I was trying to do it in a toy programming language in a game so that probably didn't help

[uncut moss]

I havent get that far yet 😄 so Im not sure what I can even do!
OOoo! hey thats good one!

[strange wadi]

Imagine you hear someone behind you and tilt your hand to make the snakes look at them without turning your head

[uncut moss]

haahah 😄 I was thinking to link all the mouths to gether, so when i Talk, snakes talk too!

[strange wadi]

Oh that would be super creepy but also super awesome

I think you can probably do that with blendshapes

[ashen stag]

AV3 has the viseme parameter so you can do anything when you talk

[strange wadi]

My avatar has a green outline that expands around my head when I talk

Though didn't do that with visemes

[uncut moss]

Yep, I have tried different things with my other avatar, but its modded and I want to make clean start becouse I started to have some bugs, So Easier to make one from scratch and make it good than mod some older model 😄
And I need to find out what I can do with that AV3, I dont need that much for my avatar, Gestures are nice and I think I might even go with AV2 if it sounds too much work 😄

[ashen stag]

One of the best parts of AV3 is you define the eye movements in unity, so you can manually adjust how it works instead of the guess work of AV2

[uncut moss]

really

[strange wadi]

I think my favourite thing is didn't they finally embrace avatar seats?

[uncut moss]

Eyes have been my problem, Spinning and livin their own lives... 😄

[ashen stag]

You should really use AV3 then, gestures are different but not much more complicated really. Don't even have to use em unless you wanna get fancy

[ashen stag]

Pretty sure seats still need to be activated via animation at start time

[uncut moss]

I added more snake hair and it looks now even better! Now there is all snake heads added and I need to start finalizing this and make some tweaking and stuff..!

[uncut moss]

Okey, now im at the point where i can start doing all the finalizing, joinin stuff to gether, check everything and start making some skeleton!
Some minor mirroring fixing ahead

[tall mirage]

i need somebody who can vc with me and help me out

[spiral sigil]

So, I have a question. Do you have to separate all of the meshes on a vrchat model (base, clothes, etc) to weight paint?

[thorn bluff]

Not really but I recommend to separate main parts that you are weight painting but not all

[thorny ivy]

Seperate the parts you wanna paint, hide the rest, then merge after you're done.

[spiral sigil]

cruuuuud ok, just wondering because I was having issues lol

[thorny ivy]

Easier to navigate and see the whole mesh that way.

[spiral sigil]

I just thought there was a better way lol

[spiral sigil]

yeah that's fair

[thorny ivy]

You can do automatic weight-painting but results may very and can screw up other parts in my experience.

If other meshes are also attached to the same armature IIRC.

[spiral sigil]

I thought about it, but I'd rather do it manually too lol

[thorny ivy]

Think you can copy weight painting from the body to clothes? Something like that from what I've heard.

[clear geyser]

Yeah ^ you can use the Data Transfer modifier. Copies the weights from the body onto the clothes

[ashen stag]

Honestly I usually weight paint clothing+skin at the same time to avoid different weights and clipping

[spiral sigil]

Thanks guys, it helped :)

[grand laurel]

i was suggested 2 come here instead of #avatar-help so helo
i was wondering if i could have some help with a simple thing since i'm a newbie at 3d modelling

i just need help with a simple thing with my avatar, i created it with vroid but i want to add some accessories that vroid cannot add
i found some boots that i would like to use and i managed to import them into unity by exporting it with blender (it was originally a .pmx file), but now i just want to position the boots so i can parent them onto my avatar's legs/feet

the boots model itself is two boots grouped into the one model, and i was wondering if it was possible to scale the distance between the two to position it correctly

and then somehow attach it to the model

is there a way to seperate the right boot's mesh and stuff so that it's two individual boots maybe?

i hope i'm getting the terminology correct

i was able to do something similar in blender when i originally tried modelling my avy in there, where i could seperate the meshes with the CATS plugin

should i just switch back to blender to do this? i also wanna add fishnets and i don't think unity has any functions to scale it to my avatar's body since the bases are different

[grand laurel]

oh wow nvm i just found the exact same problem from a different person in #avatar-rigging

[storm nexus]

I don't know how I can make horns for this Oc of mine but I need help

[paper mauve]

Either model them with "hair" in vroid (there are plenty of videos online about using "hair" to make all sorts of things) or load the exported model into blender and edit it there

[thorny ivy]

Tossed on some simple eyebrows just to see how they look on the model. Thoughts?

[uncut moss]

@thorny ivy Looks like simple eyebrowns 😄 Have you tried different positions, like littlebit closer, longer, higher, lower, it can make huge impact on your looks ^^ (ps, I like the ears!)

[tight socket]

these normals look horrid in eevee, am i missing something obvious?

[thorny ivy]

Added them before work, I'll definitely experiment more with the position and shape when I'm off.

And thanks! I somehow managed to shape them into that from regular ears.

With minimal additons to the geo too, mainly some subdividng to make them more smooth around the edges.

[jovial radish]

switch to non-color on the image texture node?

[tight socket]

works like a charm, why is that the case? lol i appreciate it; just wanna learn

[jovial radish]

normal maps are not sampled the same way as regular image textures, as for the nitty gritty of why & how, no idea. I just press the buttons and the thingy works.

[latent charm]

The why is that normal maps aren't visual image data. They're vector data stored in images and if they're sampled like images that'll distort the vector data (look up gamma correction for more details) and end up looking horridly wrong.

[tight socket]

understood, ill look deeper into it. Thank you!

this was a revolutionary discovery

no wonder EVERYTHING IVE DONE for MONTHS has looked wrong

not sure if happy or sad

[latent charm]

Be happy you've learned something 😀

[tight socket]

thanky random internet people

[storm nexus]

Interesting

[storm nexus]

So I found some tutorials of how to make horns and this is what I made so far

[obsidian nova]

Nice! I don’t think I’ve ever seen some in that shape!

[storm nexus]

Ty!~~

w<

[storm nexus]

I got it just now but it's the aligning that I have to make ; a ;

[thorny ivy]

Something I've found useful is creative a (temp) armature for parts like horns, eyebrows, etc.

That way, you can modify the shape without having to mess with the geo directly.

[storm nexus]

Ooh?

OwO

[chrome hare]

the only charlotte model i could find on the internet didn't work with vrchat so i made one myself naturally

[storm nexus]

Awww

; w;

[neat viper]

cool! c:

[azure rain]

very nice

[vital drift]

why are snoots hard 😠

[knotty hawk]

does anyone know why the fingers colour look different than the rest of the body?

[ashen stag]

Flipped normals? Thats usually where that darker color comes from if you dont have multiple materials doing it

[proper wyvern]

Broodmother telling us how it is ;P

[ashen stag]

I help when I can 😔

[proper wyvern]

And doing a damn good job ❤️

Even when I fail at telling my own student how to do things 😛

Didnt even think of the flipped normals X3

[knotty hawk]

I wanna trade teachers pls 😉

[ashen stag]

I never had a teacher smh

[proper wyvern]

Alright then buddy! O_O

Teach yourself! XD

[proper wyvern]

Not even youtube tutorials?

[ashen stag]

Only youtube tutorial that I depended on was Tupper's megatutorial. Otherwise its just small stuff like Ruuubicks substance painter tutorial

[proper wyvern]

Oh look at Ruubiwuu being useful again

[ashen stag]

Tutorials just get my boots wet, I spend most of my time self improving or experimenting

[proper wyvern]

I got lucky enough to get under someones wing so now im just repaying my debt if anything by spreading the knowledge I learnt while also improving my own skills. VRC Traders have been extremely helpful now that I graduated from my senpais "university".

[ashen stag]

Most VRC specific knowledge is found by asking people who are doing things you are interested in. Not every technique or skill is written up somewhere

[proper wyvern]

Exactly and im a lazy B who hates reading 😄

[ashen stag]

Yet you want to make a spider. Curious 🤔

[knotty hawk]

Thanks for the help though 🙂

[proper wyvern]

Look im an insectophobe who used to let a stick bug the size of my hand walk on my face. I simply find spider legs to be interesting in a weird way... The way they move is somehow hypnotic to me... Its the same with fingers. Im literally at a point that I want to eat my mmd avatars fingers... :/ I make no sense.

[ashen stag]

Working on spider avatars has made me into an arachophile, hopefully working on insects will help you appreciate rather than dislike them

[proper wyvern]

I mean owning two stick bugs helped so that was a good decision. When I see a spider in real I cry but if they move slow then im hypnotized and want to look at it for hours. Im a complicated person and I gave up a long time ago trying to understand my fucked up beauty standards. The idea for my own spider avatar came from using a spider avatar in VRC that felt extremely comfortable to wear if you know what I mean.

[ashen stag]

The procedural animation that comes with VRIK is very satisfying to use. I do understand what you mean by hypnotic.

[knotty hawk]

Don't forget your Teratophilia 🤣

[proper wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/blank-stare-justin-timberlake-meh-gif-5436831

[proper wyvern]

Tell me more?

[ashen stag]

VRIK uses targets and roots and takes a step depending on multiple factors, when you mix that with ray casting (Grounder) you get a fully procedurally animated walk cycle. We can talk more about this in the spider discord or when you get around to rigging/watching the video if you have not already

[proper wyvern]

Send send send plz :3

The video that is

[ashen stag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOZGBVhGQwc

[proper wyvern]

Saved to tabs

[lunar brook]

Can anyone recommend some tutorial videos on getting started with Avatar creation in Blender or 3DS Max?

I do photography so I'm pretty familiar with Photoshop, and I do some CAD for my 3D printer but Ive never done more than that.

[latent charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF1qEhBSfq4&list=PLa1F2ddGya_-UvuAqHAksYnB0qL9yWDO6

For getting started with blender

As for avatar creation, just find & follow any standard humanoid character tutorial for unity as for the most part that's compatible with VRC, then you just need to set up the VRC specific components in unity.

[lunar brook]

Thanks I'll check it out, I know there's about a million blender tutorials but I wanted to hear from you guys

[kind inlet]

This model is going to be so scuffed

I don't even know what to do for her butt lol

Any advice on modeling hands?

[quaint jasper]

Find actual topology guides and try to follow them

[muted raven]

Doing this in blender was work enough, how people do this in real life is what i wanna know lol

Saw these on instagram so i just had to make them

[kind inlet]

Cool lookin

[stark plaza]

I think peoples computers would thank you if you just made the side pieces flat planes with an alpha texture :0

[unborn cloud]

Is there a detailed tutorial on how to make a working VR model? Using vrm of course. (With eye tracking, working face and all that)

[azure rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vggA0auQEF4

[candid frigate]

Hello I'm working on my avatar for VRChat. I could import my avatar to VRChat but after I tried to add VRM Spring Bone to my model (like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpl_mqU8i7U) the SDK can't upload my avatar to VRChat. Anyone knows the solution for using avatars with Springbones?

[leaden jetty]

guys
how do i put my model into vr chat?
cause i got a unity file with my model

[hybrid crow]

Get Sdk

upload to unity project before importing the model package

Then use the sdk to upload it

[twilit pulsar]

nice

[forest mauve]

Pieck-chan wip

[forest mauve]

kinda resembles

idk mappa style its hard to achive

[vivid oasis]

cool model

[vital drift]

is there a way to take clothing off of a model? or only if its not one whole piece

[deep dirge]

Yes?

[vital drift]

how does one do that

[deep dirge]

Please learn basic blender functions before trying to make avatars

Idk if you want to delete the clothing or make it a separate mesh (you shouldn't). Click the avatars mesh, press tab to enter edit mode, press L on the clothing and see if you selected it, then either delete with X, or press P and separate by selection.

Or if doing select linked selects more than just clothing, you can either select by material if there is a separate material for the clothing (why), or by right clicking individual faces.

Keybinds may also be totally different

[vital drift]

Ooh ok, yeah I just want to put rigged clothing on another avatar or just moving clothing to an avatar and rigging that clothing or whatever

[lofty crag]

Hey guys, my normals and I aren't getting along and I'm not sure what to do. Setting to Legacy Blendshapes + Import gives me this wacky jagged blendhsape distortion, but keeps the normals from getting weird shadows.

Obviously, the jaggy looks bad. So I tried turning off Legacy Blendshapes, and importing the normals. This fixes the jagged blendshapes, but causes shadows to jump around all over and look weird. Is there another setting I can use? I tried just about all of them at this point, and even tried triangulating my faces in Blender.

How it should look;

Blender view

I can set it to Legacy and Calculate Normals, but I don't believe that brings in the normals I set up for the model from Blender

[muted raven]

@visual vigil how many polys

[visual vigil]

@muted raven 200k

[thorny ivy]

Try to get it down to 40k.

[visual vigil]

@thorny ivy the low poly one is

[gusty otter]

These are amazing wow

[kind inlet]

Still pushing off doing the hands

lol

[cinder wraith]

Can I still unwrap the UV even if I haven't applied the subdivision modifier?

[kind inlet]

Doing the face is going very poorly

qwq

[quaint jasper]

You probably want to use sharp edges in a few places, use the smoothing tools

[kind inlet]

Like where?

[quaint jasper]

any sharp angle

or turn on autosmooth

you probably wanna get EdgeFlow and Fair Vertices addons too

[kind inlet]

Oh I'm fine with the body at this point, I'm dealing with the face

Current mood

[ruby thunder]

I have a question, i have always whanted to make my own avatar. And how do i make a avatar? Help pleas!

[quaint jasper]

You follow tutorials to learn the basics, then use those basics to make things, and the more things you learn the more you'll be able to do more complex things

[still wadi]

lies just link him the "tutorial"

[sonic frost]

It’s all about following the steps over and over till everything clicks.

[spiral sigil]

HI i have a avatar (not finished) can anyone help me finish it (blender)?

[tough plover]

you should be specific lol

if you have a specific issue, explain it

and someone might be able to help you with it

no one can help you with your issue if you don't say what your issue is

[spiral sigil]

designed the avatar but i cant do the rest, i destroied it over 10 times @tough plover

[tough plover]

so you have a finished model, but which part are you stuck on? the rigging?

[spiral sigil]

i only have the base with clothes, thats all i have. (sorry for my english im german)

@tough plover

[tough plover]

is it a base that you downloaded, or made from scratch?

[spiral sigil]

i downloadet the base and added clothes in blender

[tough plover]

okay, did you test to see if you added the clothes correctly by attempting to move the bones in Pose mode?

[spiral sigil]

no

i only layed it ofer the skin

and i dont know how to move bones

[tough plover]

you do that in Pose mode

click the armature, and either go to Pose mode in the top left, or using CTRL + TAB

then try rotating a bone

[spiral sigil]

okay

whaaaaat

how tf do i move it .-.

ctrl + tab and what then @tough plover

[tough plover]

are you in pose mode?

[spiral sigil]

jep

[tough plover]

there are tools on the left side

one of them is to rotate

click a bone, and try rotating it

[spiral sigil]

the bone and the skin is not binded

[tough plover]

a 3D model is made up of polygons. a polygon is a shape with multiple vertices, or the points that make up that shape. the way that you make a mesh (a set of polygon) move with bones, is by assigning a certain "weight" to each vertex, in a process called "weight painting". the vertex weights will tell the vertex how much to move with a certain bone moves. a vertex can be weighed to multiple bones at the same time, for example in a joint.

[spiral sigil]

my brain

[tough plover]

the clothes you added most likely came with an armature containing bones, that is because bones for the vertices on those clothes to follow

[spiral sigil]

im a 13 year old german boy trying to understand something imposible in english

[tough plover]

I don't speak german, sorry. if I did understand it, then I would try to explain it in german to make it easier

[lethal mulch]

You could google translate it

So copy it then put it into your language

[spiral sigil]

can we please dm? :/ @tough plover

oh

okay

[dull gull]

I'm a super green beginner at this but I will attempt to at least make a simple take at this. May ask for advice later, just wanted to show my baby steps.

[tough plover]

nice! slow but steady progress

for smoothing out edges, there are many methods you can use

such as; selecting the polys to smooth, then using the smooth tool (you seem to already have it selected on the left), using the sculpting tools, or using Proportional editing mode (hit o and you will see this icon turn on)

[dull gull]

Thanks for the advice! I've tried the smooth tool already and it gave pretty satisfactory results, but I will wait with using it 'till I have every base object for the model done, or at least everything but the face.

The proportional editing mode has me curious though. I just tried it out while having smooth tool active and it didn't seem to have much effect. Is it moreso for using transformation or something else?

[tough plover]

the way is works is by affecting nearby vertices when you move one vertex, based on the chosen curve

and radius, which you can change with the mouse wheel

you will see a white circle around the vertex when you start moving it

[dull gull]

Ohhh I see I see
That will definitely be useful for the face

[spiral sigil]

im litteraly crying in my sole right now im sittin 5 hours to do that pls is there anyone who wants to finish it

[spiral sigil]

plz

😦

[quaint jasper]

Are you watching any tutorial ? 5 hours ain't much time spent

No one will fix that avatar for you, at least not for free

[spiral sigil]

mhm how much, im fuckin dumb

@quaint jasper

[quaint jasper]

idk, you'd have to ask in a server like this one #community-servers-old message

[chrome hare]

i see a lot of people do this mirror thing

[dull gull]

It's fun when it doesn't implode on itself haha

some leg progress

[chrome hare]

nice

[dull gull]

Thank thank
Hope it'll turn out good in the end

[chrome hare]

alright 3d gang
should my next project be a normal humanoid, a centaur, or a snake person

[hoary light]

Snaaaake person

[chrome hare]

i was tempted by it as well

[hoary light]

So, snake specifically? like no legs? or lizard man!?!

[chrome hare]

more like medusa

[hoary light]

Sounds like a fun challenge if you plan on putting it into vrc

[crude trail]

What's the recommended texture resolution for VRChat avatars? I'm using 512x512 but it's a bit small

[chrome hare]

1024x1024 is probably a good starting point

very nice

i will say that making a model is 25% of the battle

the rest is making it work properly when put to use

[hoary light]

Haha it sure feels like it! What's the best place to learn more about importing? The unity and VRC documentation seems to have a lot, but I feel there's a lot missing also. - Or perhaps I just need to keep reading.

[tranquil kernel]

anyone here in maya?

[tight quartz]

Let's say I wanna move this vertices.

It would look liks this.

How can I make so some around the vertice is moving aswell?

[quaint jasper]

press O

[spiral sigil]

proportional editing - press o

[quaint jasper]

and adjust with middle mouse

[tight quartz]

Yes, ty ❤️

Does it work on clothes?

It seem to move the whole "shirt" or what it's called.

[spiral sigil]

it works on anything

you can choose if you want it to work for anything in the circle

or for only the select area

with "connected only"

adjust the size with the mouse wheel, as ruuubick said

[tight quartz]

And that is with Connected Only + Smooth

[spiral sigil]

make the circle smaller

[tight quartz]

🤔

It was so big I couldn't see it. 😅

Ty again ❤️

[obsidian nova]

Cool way to model. Literally never thought to just do this then subdivide...

[dull gull]

I have no real clue what I'm doing tbh.
That said, can't necessarily recommend the method for stuff like hair. I will have to redo that fo sho.

[hoary light]

That is fantastic

[visual vigil]

thank you!

[still wadi]

you've come a long way

[dull gull]

Damn thas nice
How long have you been modelling?

[quaint jasper]

They've been posting since 2018 at least

[visual vigil]

Yeah pretty much since 2018

I started vrchat winter of 2017 I think?

Is there a way for steam to tell you your original day of downloading it to your library?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/709210012123398194/820124492281937960/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545707771589296138/820119777715814430/unknown.png

Only a few things left to model

I fixed that clipping strap btw

Gun, purity seals, decorations

[plush gate]

Hello!
Quick question I rearranged the vertices of this left arm so it doesn't clip through the outfit; now I will do the right arm but I was wondering if there is a way or a shortcut to just apply it on the other side fast?
When I was messing with pose mode I often used Ctrl+C -> Ctrl+Shift+V for that but it doesn't seem to work for edit mode.
Or did I do it wrong?

[spiral sigil]

Hey does anyone use Unity?

I need help :(

[proper wyvern]

Isnt this an mmd base? You could mirror it but then you gotta work with the weightpainting or just recreate the armature with mixamo :3

[plush gate]

Oohh.. Well in that case just selecting the same vertices and pulling on them another time will be easier/faster I think 😂
Was wondering if there was a quick button "apply to other side" but seems not 😁

[proper wyvern]

If only XD

[proper wyvern]

Just a question though... Why are you leaving the mesh underneath the clothes?

[plush gate]

Cuz if I swap to my other outfits I want my arms back for some of them 😆

[proper wyvern]

ah... 3.0 be like: "lemme add a lot of stuff on my avatar and reduce the optimization level because now I can have 100000 materials and polys just because multiple outfit choices can be put in one avatar instead of making multiple uploads"

[plush gate]

I don't know what you're talking about. 😇
No but on a serious note yes that's pretty much it; now it's always up to the people to use those very-very-VERY-poor avatars in publics or only with close friends 😮

[proper wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/faint-fainting-catch-me-gif-19205245

Wait are the devs roasting you? XD

[plush gate]

I think it's supposed to say "lag" I was always wondering 😆

[proper wyvern]

You know what. They should NOT fix that. Its perfect the way it is. X3

[plush gate]

Are you implying you're laughing when someone has an extremly unoptimized avatar and makes your crash

😏 🚔

[proper wyvern]

No. Im crying because the loading time is too long even on a medium for me 😄

[plush gate]

aw.

[proper wyvern]

Once you go excellent you dont go back

[plush gate]

Alright we should let people who has actual questions talk I think XD

[proper wyvern]

Oh youre thinking that this convo has nothing to do with the subject? 😏 We just found a typo and also youre getting tips and tricks here so I dunno...

But yea from now on ask these questions in the #avatars-mmd since that avatar of yours looks like an mmd. It is right? This channel is more for the from scratch stuff.

[plush gate]

Yes it is, sorry I'll do that next time 😕

[vivid crater]

yea on steam if you click on your name top right > account details > view licenses and product key activations

[still wadi]

what do u call a person that riggs in blender ?

[still wadi]

https://i.imgur.com/V8DQ0lS.jpeg

cheese

[spiral sigil]

omg those ears

[visual vigil]

Wtf are those B-B-B-BOOBS ON MY VRCHAT???

[devout scroll]

pretty cute

[zenith blade]

Somethings wrong with this cheese board I ordered...

[spiral sigil]

Anyone mind helping me clean up an avatar? It's just like weight painting on the body and such. I'm not good at it, but it should be pretty simple.

[stuck trench]

So, I have quite the impossible situation on my part, I did the Frankenstein method in blender on a head but every time I use the shapekeys of that head, it moves upward a bit(along with what it is suppose to do). I just want that head to rest there dang... any ways I can prevent that, because every time my avatar will speak it's just going to detach.

Seemed like the perfect place to ask about blender, since there is no "blender help" channel.

[cloud spear]

anyone modeling in vr

what they use

[quaint jasper]

You probably moved the head while on a different shapekey than Basis

[stuck trench]

I'll have to move the head down for every shapekeys I suppose.

[quaint jasper]

You should just make your sil shapekey into your new Basis

[stuck trench]

That would most likely not fix it, also I have no actual sil shapekey.

It's not completed.

But thanks for letting me know that there is no magical solution.

[quaint jasper]

In your case no, but there's often a lot of steps to take before doing anything dangerous like that to be able to go back easily

like saving the model head on its own

and creating a duplicate of basis

[azure rain]

very nice avatard

[warped merlin]

whoa, looks nice

[proper wyvern]

Do I seriously need to learn how to UV map and how to use textures IF I want to move my from scratch avatar to Quest?? Can I not just use material colors especially when I like them that way... 😫

Unity is killing meee.... 😦

[obsidian nova]

UV mapping isn’t really that tough if you’re using the right tools for it. Go find a UV tutorial for Blender. There are tons out there.

[obsidian nova]

@cloud spear Gravity sketch is great for modelling. It’s Quest native, which is neat. You can import models & images from other apps & manually adjust individual vertices on a mesh.

It also supports vertex colouring & a few different placeholder shader options. It’s the perfect app to use to hash out a 1st draft or to refine a model.

Tilt-brush is another one; which is better for environment design. It get’s overlooked a lot. People think of it as deprecated, but google has actually added a lot of features recently.

I’m taking this course at the moment, and they use both; there are like 30 videos in the series. Worth the watch. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MqXPux6wiLw

[atomic hamlet]

You don't NEED to use textures, but there is a hard limit to how many materials you can use for different colors.

Not super familiar with the Quest-specific limitations though, but i know in general it's much more restrictive than PC.

[proper wyvern]

using vrc shaders makes the colors white so it doesnt work

[lament haven]

is someone able to help me make a 3d avatar to use in vrchat?:

[azure rain]

you can make textures that are pretty much just a color palette and have Auto generated UVS and it still works or vertex colors could also work as far as one material solid color

[atomic hamlet]

Does the VRChat mobile variant of the standard shader not allow you to change the albedo color?

Like i said, not super familiar with Quest, i play on PC. But i figured something like that would have been similar enough.

[azure rain]

you can change the Albedo color but the limit on materials on the quest makes it a terrible idea to do solid color model work by using multiple materials and also that's just a bad idea in general for performance

[uncut moss]

Lets motivate people to learn Blender!
I haven't used blender before or any other 3d software.
I started making my first avatar from scratch, but it was hard, so start was really slow and I needed to do some other projects in same time. I banged my head to wall couple of times..
But becouse I haven't yet learned to use blender fluently it takes more time for making progress, but Its not that hard, its just time consuming when you dont exacly know how everything works, but I have found out that you can learn new skills, just by doing it 😄
I have still lots of work ahead and Im challenging my self with this project, I cant wait to see how this will turn out at the end!

[hidden folio]

Hey, Not sure where to ask, but if there a list somewhere of contacts for model makers/editers?

[uncut moss]

https://www.fiverr.com/ and type vrchat + avatars I think there is couple

[fresh storm]

@hidden folio or u can always find ppl doing commission in discord too

[spiral sigil]

go to vrc traders in #community-servers-old
at least they are trustworthy not like on fiverr

[hidden folio]

I'm never sure whos thrustworthy is the thing, cause I'm not looking for an avatar from scratch atm.

[spiral sigil]

definitely vrc traders
they have a whole verification process

[hidden folio]

vrc traders. Can I ask what that is? you say in the #community-servers-old tab?

[spiral sigil]

yes

[hidden folio]

ok vrc traders is a discord. Alright thank you very much.

[wintry vector]

@quaint jasper So I want my eyebrows, teeth, tongue, ect. on a separate UV map so that I can texture them easier. But when I unwrap them to a second map, my first map still has UV data for the verticies on it. How to I "unmap" those specific verticies from the first map?

[quaint jasper]

You may have to unwrap the first uvmap again so that they don't show up ?

[wintry vector]

ill try that

@quaint jasper I think I can just drag them off of the first map. Is that "cheating?"

[quaint jasper]

No but then your texture won't be square

[wintry vector]

oh true. Maybe Ill put them in a corner and not touch them

so if I scrunch them in this corner?

This feels like a hillbilly way to do it. I should just be able to remove the UV data for specific verts

[quaint jasper]

i mean, proper UV placement is a tough thing of its own

There's addons to help with that, but they're a bit expensive

[wintry vector]

are they difficult to learn?

[quaint jasper]

UV unwrapping ? There's guides around

[wraith atlas]

3d modeling my dbz character, how would i make dbz eyes?

[obsidian nova]

Trace an existing set of eyes or rip them from a free model.

You can import images directly into blender using the “images as planes” add-on. To activate it, first go to edit > preferences > add ons. Search for “images as planes”. Tick the checkbox next to the name to activate it and then restart blender.

Once you’ve restarted Blender, you should be able to import images by going to: file > import > images as planes...

Go find some dragon all eyes.

[compact mulch]

totally non threatening ordinary treasure chest wip https://gyazo.com/80a84848741e3002d76f42e05c61010a

[dull gull]

Some progress on my kinda advanced beginner project. Redid the face and arms, face will be a lot of work for sure. Gotta make hands and hair before I give it some real sculpting.

[hardy lake]

do the toe bones need to be on the origin/floor level?

[wraith atlas]

Any suggestions?

[uncut moss]

@wraith atlas Just continue your work ^^ Looks good at this point!

[thorny ivy]

After eyebrowsed through the channel, thought I'd share some head sculpting/modeling of my own.

Because of baking/pastry motifs for the character, tried to model the brows after frosting.

However, since I don't normally design eyebrows in the first place, not sure how they look overall.

Good? Bad? Oversized? Undersized? Too long? Too short?