3d-modeling

[quaint jasper]

Same

[spiral sigil]

the pain man

what?

is big

[weary slate]

first time trying to make something similar to a human head :P. Looking bad, but it's my 3rd model and sculpt mode won't work so I am just moving shapes. Gonna make it better in sculpt mode when i get it working

just keep doing it til it works. it's what im doing. also, sorry for the ping

put a stream on in the background too

[spiral sigil]

is a mask?

[weary slate]

im trying to make a low-poly face D:

I'll finish this one then try again at making a better one

[spiral sigil]

ooo

goodluck

[median harness]

My number one advice when learning is to explicitly ask yourself "why did I fail" when you fail. 'cause you will fail, and you will make stuff that is not what you were hoping for.

Targeting that pain point that caused the entire mesh to spiral into an unworkable mess you have to wholesale abandon is the way to go. That way, on your next project or attempt, you can keep that one thing at the forefront of your mind, and try a different approach. Even if the project falls apart again, it'll be in a different way and you can move forward from there. Incremental progress is key -- learning everything at once is too much for almost anyone!

[weary slate]

ok ty

[spiral sigil]

https://i.gyazo.com/b59e82dc0cd29295e960bf1aa5e18172.png
https://i.gyazo.com/10b676977e135c1078495ed5f0623bb9.png
https://i.gyazo.com/c0f8cb80d99f176bbb9a877f7a67850d.mp4

[median harness]

I have a burning desire to put that on and run headfirst full-tilt in a direction until I hit a wall

In a really good way

[weary slate]

yessss

this is about an hour's progress... a face. I'm gonna follow a tutorial of how to do nurbs curves or whatever tommorow for the chin beneath the creepy mouth side parts and hopefully it'll make the right shape. I'm gonna scrap this once i've done that and go make another, better one

[odd meadow]

im making a donut. 😛

no

i dont lik that face

i like this 😛

: P

there

my account still won't work

so i send in a support ticket

[weary slate]

you can do that by adding one shape

[weary slate]

wdym?

[odd meadow]

it kept saying that i was reusing captcha

even though i had done it repeatedly

using chrome

and edge

and the donut

im making it with frosting

[odd meadow]

: O

[mild nimbus]

So I been asking around which face variant do you like best Old or New one?

Should of took a perspective shot tbh

but were just worrying about proportions rn

Fullscreen to see all the details

Modeling and Texturing of this really draining me rn

😫

Obviously clothing is still WIP

[devout scroll]

oof

don't do ortho screenshots

they always look weird

[runic nymph]

I like the old face more.

[mild nimbus]

One without ortho

In bed rn so can't get the true perspective looks side by side

😩

Only time I work in ortho is when I'm modeling tbh and switch back to perspective make sure it's looking good in the only important perspective

Which is perspective

XD

[white moth]

I’m having a very hard time telling what the differences are, but I like the one labeled new more. Couldn’t tell you why.

[spiral sigil]

less aliasing
it's more smooth
the "blush" is slightly more red, same for lips
nose and the gap between eyes seems smaller too

[wide cove]

I really want the motivation to model, can anyone help me sometime soon?

[devout scroll]

None here

[spiral sigil]

also searching for it

no success so far

[wide cove]

Ok

[desert whale]

Most people here are probably not qualified to be a psychotherapist or something like that tho...

[mild nimbus]

The problem with most people when they want to get into modeling

They don't start small

They go and make a character on there which is way out of there skill sets in the beginning

The user should be modeling basic things for starters to understand rule sets and fundamentals

Making something as simple as headphones a chair

Pot or a pan

Making basic shapes

If you want too get into this and seek motivation go find some 3D artist that do this line of work especially in a prefer style you want.

Im going to assume it's anime

Go look at Yoolie's work

Or Rukikuri

Shonzo

AversionOfReality

Royal Skies LLC great guy to watch on YouTube btw If you want to get into 3D in general

Modeling is like drawing you suck untill you practice more and more

It's not something you can learn over night or within a month

2 or 4 months

It's a constant practice it's a craft.

@wide cove

When you understand basic modeling rules you are going to realize there so many other avenues now you need to explore to achieve your desired end goal looks

[wide cove]

...okay

You could've just said start small and don't work too big but thanks I guess

[winter plinth]

blender donut

[mild nimbus]

I need to say it cause most people can't seem to realize it

It's for the others who don't understand what I mean

Lol

They wonder why they not improving cause they are to focused making a complex character

[devout scroll]

donut bad

[mild nimbus]

And not learning anything from it cause there to busy trying to solve issues then doing basics

[devout scroll]

do something more substantial

[mild nimbus]

I'd say tackle some headphones

Find reference

And make it

Choose whatever brand you love

And ONLY worry about modeling it

No texturing no uv unwrapping

The donut teaches you some pretty good fundamentals btw

But it's meh imo

I learned differently

[quaint jasper]

it also teaches you a lot of unnecessary things, but it's still a staple

[mild nimbus]

True

[quaint jasper]

It's not like there's a shortage of tutorials

[mild nimbus]

😩

I was thinking of making one

But then I got royal skies

To fix that for me

All good proper tutorials

Are behind payment walls

After you do those courses that's when you seek for the free information on Google YouTube blog post Twitter etc

To polish your new skill sets you recently learned

Once fundamentals are learned you can do anything and can find ways to do things differently for the sake of your style in modeling and quality

But ofc everyone learns differently

Just saying how I did it

Daniel kruter has good character creation tutorial but aged so bad now but still can learn some stuff in there

[devout scroll]

There's good free ones too

Just don't do the donut

It's full of rambling and is too long

[winter plinth]

blender table?

[devout scroll]

do a few short playlists and decide which creator you resonate with the most

i like grant abbitt for beginner stuff but there's a few more

it's just that a lot don't focus on blender for games

they focus on blender for renders

[mild nimbus]

Cg cookie or Flipped Normals

Are good free sources to

But I think most people will resonate with royal Skies

Or Danial Kruter

Maybe Yan Sculpts and DannyMac 3D

Flipped Normals is prob your go to place

It's every students go to place for industry knowledge for this line of work

Even though they are in the industry doesent mean you should not learn from them either.

That's prob the best knowledge you can get

For free

Blender for renders are also fine and what's er is learned in that can be applied to games also

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZpDYt0cyiutkKkIZgrja6Hdr9e5prBsu

This man explains everything

Even blender guru's donut tutorial flaws

[spiral sigil]

https://i.gyazo.com/83f700a571a2a124e983b256f9de9523.png
https://i.gyazo.com/ef7c3d0061ab6d89b9f552854786dd0a.mp4

[cobalt night]

Hey Friends, what do you think?
Made it super quick just as proof of concept.

[wide cove]

Really good!

[quaint jasper]

No roughness mask ?

[acoustic kite]

anyone have time to help me with a bit of a blender issue?

[knotty hawk]

Does anyone know how to mirror fingers without the mirroring being fucked?

[dire tinsel]

can anyone help me with hair in vroid studio

[crude rose]

@dire tinsel I followed this when I was figuring out vroid :)
https://youtu.be/pKIuymaOVs8

[latent mesa]

That's pretty much what I did. I started in unity and worked my way backwards into blender until I created a new model from scratch

[latent mesa]

Possibly.

[latent mesa]

You can reset origin to fix the mirror (unless you're not 100% symmetrical)

You can also delete half of your model then add a mirror modifier later. Not 100% how good of an idea that is considering weight paint and uv map

When I have problems with the symmetry being off, I just do each side individually

[mild nimbus]

vroid doesent really teach you anything but learning how UV maps are

tbh

its just there for people who dont want to learn the craft

its good for concepting though for sure

[broken rapids]

is there a way to make a vroid model work as a quest avatar? When i use my model, the transparency messes up my textures on the face.

[latent mesa]

I'm sure it's possible. I don't use vroid or make quest models. Check out "askamber" tutorial on uploading quest avatars @broken rapids

[steady merlin]

would anyone willing to help me learn how to make a model from scratch plz?

[spice pewter]

@mild nimbus if they want to use Vroid then let them use it

[latent mesa]

Give me the url and timestamp you're following and I'll help whenever you get stuck

[steady merlin]

?

[latent mesa]

I forgot to say the word tutorial

[steady merlin]

oh

i was doing a tituarial but i stoped awhile back

[latent mesa]

I'm most familiar with aggrotard tutorials, but I follow everyone. Askamber, greyhoundvrc, and more

[steady merlin]

i would have to restart from the beging

again and i see

[latent mesa]

May I ask why did you have to restart?

[steady merlin]

no i have the donut i was working on but i have forgoten almost everything

from the titorial

[latent mesa]

You want a vrc model/avatar upload tutorial

Donuts are a little out of scope with how in depth it goes. Better watch that after you've uploaded a few avatars and want to make one from scratch

[steady merlin]

i did

[latent mesa]

Oh! You're like 100% making one. Gotcha.

[steady merlin]

yeah i have uploaed avatars

[latent mesa]

I've made one, but didn't bother adding textures or do uv mapping. I might not be helpful enough depending on the complexity

[steady merlin]

i see

[latent mesa]

I've only seen one youtuber make a video on model creation

[steady merlin]

ah

[latent mesa]

https://youtu.be/in9rNze4FD4

The only f'n youtuber I could find who shows how to do this

[steady merlin]

i see

and i thank you very much.....

[devout scroll]

Shonzo also has stream vods and timelapses

[latent mesa]

Good to know. I only saw https://youtu.be/da9V4pq27jg . I was too disappointed to subscribe. Perhaps I lost faith too soon

[devout scroll]

That's 3 years old

He's come a long way since then hah

[mild nimbus]

@spice pewter I dident say not to use it but what I say stands true

[devout vault]

i really want to start modeling my avatar

but the blender is too complicated

[mild nimbus]

Shonzo has gone a long way

soo

still going a long way

tbh the video of shonzo roasting that model should be the staple of what people really produce for VRC content for money sometimes

and its disgusting and pratically a scam

[spiral sigil]

people using gullible people to make easy money, not a surprise there tbh

[mild nimbus]

if they want a model

custom one in specific

go to the actual creators they are all over twitter

cg trader

fiver

art station

[quaint jasper]

slightly more expensive

[mild nimbus]

unfortunately yes

but you get what you pay for

[devout scroll]

most people don't care

and will just take the cheaper price

standards are very low with people buying mmd models

just look at those awful fishnets most of them have

[mild nimbus]

^

so true

oml

[devout scroll]

pixelated and full of seams

[mild nimbus]

literally vrc is like a side thing for me tbh

standards are to low

so i just do game asset creation for studios

[devout scroll]

I feel like it's slowly changing as people move away from mmd and more to booth

[mild nimbus]

i realized that movement yeah

i hope it shifts completely

[devout scroll]

It's never gonna shift completely, as models are expensive

People don't realize/don't care about how much time it takes to make them

[mild nimbus]

people offer 100 usd and wonder why they get rejected

very true

[devout scroll]

100$ for a ready model is very expensive

[mild nimbus]

oh no

im talking like

custom made

[devout scroll]

obviously not for a custom commission

[mild nimbus]

premade's are like

30 - 100

[latent mesa]

That's what I understood, but felt inappropriate to speak in your behalf

[mild nimbus]

oh well

its the reality

idk what this has to do with anything

why is this about you?

Im talking from a general standpoint of the reality of this community lol

[latent mesa]

Who, me?

[mild nimbus]

....

alright u have a good night lol

[latent mesa]

Dude, what?

[mild nimbus]

its nothing

no big deal

lol

[latent mesa]

Damn, I'm stupid sometimes. At least I know it

Goodnight bro

[spiral sigil]

anyone can help me finding not a low poly cherry model 🤔

[runic nymph]

Sir, this is a modelling channel.

Make one yourself. 🗿

[spiral sigil]

ok sir i will

[weary slate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zNfh_g8jXM when i press F whilst following this, nothing happens and nothing is joined together. Do you know what i'm doing worng?

pls ping me so i see if you reply

[devout scroll]

post a screenshot of what you have

[runic nymph]

It only works on surface nurbs curves.

[weary slate]

that's hwo i got it

how*

[runic nymph]

Selecting the verts and pressing F works for me, and I'm on 2.91, so nothing changed since that tutorial was made.

[cinder cradle]

@weary slate press a and after that f

[tough plover]

yea you need to have both curves actually selected

F will fill the area between two selected objects

[weary slate]

when i select all the vertices, it says this

[runic nymph]

[tough plover]

did you make sure to hit shift before clicking on the 2nd curve

[weary slate]

i did

is this what two selected nurbs curves should look like?

im gonna uninstall and reinstall blender just in case. even though it wont do anything

actually nah its definetely me doing something wrong

i already installed so plugins and dont wanna install them again

[tough plover]

what if you do this

[weary slate]

still nothing. i still get this error thingy

[sick owl]

I have downloaded the blender

Time to make this

[weary slate]

gl

[sick owl]

Self teaching to make bascinets

I'll need it hermano

[topaz copper]

In Blender, I'm using the NKD_Protogen model by Nukude. It has shapekey modifiers to adjust body proportions, but how do I apply them to the model?

Blender v2.91.2

[spiral sigil]

A model i made in vroid

[acoustic kite]

so i got a hair asset from deviant art and one of my friends said that the uv map on it is fubar.

[neat viper]

If it's only supposed to be one color it's fine, but otherwise yeah that's interesting lol

[acoustic kite]

i was trying to at least get it to look like hair but since this is how it came out in blender i have no idea what to do now other than having to scrap the whole idea

[latent mesa]

it's not fubar. the it just hasn't gone through uv unwrapping. it's not beyond repair, it's just not complete if you're using a texture in your material. you can save yourself a whole bunch of work by lowering your standards and assigning a base color to the material @acoustic kite

[acoustic kite]

the uv unwrap only works for the portion of the hair that was already done. is there any way that i can send the files over to you to see if you can fix it? i am very VERY inexperienced in blender.

@latent mesa

[latent mesa]

nope. i never done uv unwrapping. i just know about it and the general idea on how to do it based off a tutorial that used a cube

[acoustic kite]

oof

[latent mesa]

I have 5 people in line in my server's helpdesk, or else i might be more willing to pick this up

[acoustic kite]

well i appreciate the feedback

[vestal vector]

will someone help me to learn how to use blender? i just installed it, and i have no clue what to do

please help

[cinder cradle]

better watch tutorials

[vestal vector]

i want someone in real time to teach me tho

[cinder cradle]

well i think it's not easy to get someone to teach you in real time

[vestal vector]

hmmm

[cinder cradle]

especially for free

[vestal vector]

idk who tho

[neat viper]

@acoustic kite If you want to commission someone else to do it, check #community-servers-old or VRCtraders o:

[acoustic kite]

i have already started posting on servers to have it commissioned

[neat viper]

kk! c:

[latent mesa]

if the price is right, i can help you as if i'm a tutor helping you with homework

[vestal vector]

what do you mean price

money? i dont have that

im only a child

[latent mesa]

you know how you have to pay for tutors for their time and expertise?

[vestal vector]

yea

i dont have money tho... im only 13

:/

[latent mesa]

oh nvm. i can't ask money from a kid. ummm. find a tutorial and i wall spoon feed you every step you get stuck on. just give me the url to the tutorial you're following and a time stamp

[vestal vector]

ok thanks!

[latent mesa]

I could teach you everything i know about blender, but it will take at least 2 full days

that's why i don't want to do it for free

[spice pewter]

pfft

[bleak raven]

looking for the 3d model of this, cant get it because i dont own the game

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/809672419341238272/809889404217851924/3626008-gameplay.00_00_30_07.still001.jpg

[still wadi]

@latent mesa how much for tutoring /h?

[latent mesa]

i dunno. negotiable

i'm more causal than business ya know?

[still wadi]

like how much do u think is fare

i'm not rly sure myself

[latent mesa]

and i haven't officially started yet, but there's enough demand for me to start

[still wadi]

how much is your knowledge worth

[latent mesa]

i dunno. i expect 10 hrs of work to = $50 or something. I'm not guru and don't know all the answers, so it feels unethical to charge more

[still wadi]

i can respect the hussle i guess

[latent mesa]

I just don't want to dig myself into a grave again by telling someone "yeah, I'll help" then end up spending an entire day focused on one person when i can help many with smaller things. if you pay for my time, meh, i can't say no

DM if you want to negotiate price, times, dates, end goal, etc

[still wadi]

sure man

keep up the good hustle tho

as they say if you can do something good, don't do it for free

being a good teacher is hard

not everyone can do it

[mild nimbus]

Hi how are you that's me

👀

They can be good at what they do but are they good at laying out the information like a curriculum

for it to be processed properly for them to understand

[latent mesa]

not really hustling. I'm still giving out free help for things that take less than 2 or so hours

true. the ability to effectively pass down knowledge is a skill of it's own

I'm the area trainer at my last 3 jobs and always got people certified in in 2 weeks less than required

so might as well keep doing what I'm good at. Teaching and humanoid avatars

[spiral sigil]

https://i.gyazo.com/017373c7c12f4fe4465759fd58905aa7.mp4

[latent mesa]

pog

[weary slate]

why am i doing everything wrong in blender

all the tools wont worrrk

i'm gonna sort all my stuff out tommorow

[latent mesa]

feel free to dm if you want help tomorrow

[weary slate]

ok ty

[latent mesa]

aye, prior to DM, make sure you are running blender 2.83

[thorny oar]

So question. I rigged my avatar but the bones aren't affecting it. Nothing moves when I import it into unity and try posing it.

Am I missing something important with rigging?

[quaint jasper]

Did you weight paint it ?

[thorny oar]

Ok, might be an awkward answer but what's that? 😅

And yes then I didn't do it

[quaint jasper]

That's the process of attaching the geometry to the bone

Lots of youtube tutorials for it

[thorny oar]

Ah... Off to youtube I go then

Thanks!

[stray tulip]

Made this from scratch after wanting a model of Bumblebee from Cyberverse uvu I love how it looks

This is one reference :>

[hexed minnow]

Made it myself, second attempt at 3D modelling

now, if I had played enough VRC to abe able to upload it, that'd be great

[proper wyvern]

Something for us all to look upto: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-WzU2OKKTI

[west river]

https://twitter.com/_Flyingsnake/status/1360642609144877064?s=20

FlyingSnake (@_Flyingsnake)

#HelluvaBoss #HelluvaBossBlitzo #VRChat

Twitter · Feb 13, 2021, 5:30 PM

finally done with the coloring of this little guy

[cinder cradle]

that is good looking blitz.

[west river]

he's a little blitz plush

[chrome hare]

first model that isn't just a geometric hammer

[fading bough]

I hope this is okay here but heres my vroid I made today

[neat viper]

@spiral sigil Would recommend #shameless-self-promotion instead, if it's VRChat related c: (edit to clarify: I mean the stream, not the model itself o: )

[devout scroll]

Nah, I think any 3d modelling in here is fine

People post plenty of non vrchat related models

that is if you're talking about their models being posted here

might have misread

[spiral sigil]

https://i.gyazo.com/aa8725da9471c2ae548ec739b744f1f9.mp4

[neat viper]

cool! o:

[spiral sigil]

@spiral sigil i like the gune over all but for some reason i have an issue with the magazine being put behind the trigger and so far back like that

surely itd cause jamming issues, right?

[neat viper]

That's a bullpup design (IRL examples include the AUG, Famas, WA-2000, etc), though the bolt position might be too far forward for the rounds to chamber

depends on how it's fed though o:

[spiral sigil]

seems more extreme than those, but i dont know gun designs

[neat viper]

lmao same, and yeah - still cool though! o:

[warped hatch]

Can someone tell me why arm jelly? I'm kinda new to modeling and whatnot so I tried experimenting on this Gwyn model I found online to see what all would be involved. Only the arms seem to be affected by this and weighting them has a bit of an effect but not much. I thought maybe someone here could give me an idea for what is up. Hope I am posting this in the right place

[quaint jasper]

it means that there is weight paint from another bone on that mesh

[warped hatch]

I feel like a clown right now

I swore I double checked that but there was a bone just behind the join that was weighting it

Didn't fix it completely which means something else is also affecting it but thanks for that

[kindred ermine]

hey I need help with something please dm me

[warped hatch]

Yup you were completely right. Several arm bones had weight paint on the affected bones which caused the jelly arms

Thanks a lot

[neat viper]

ask here in the channel! c:

[kindred ermine]

never mind

[feral yoke]

does auto shading just not work with joined meshes? im joining all of the different parts of my avatar together, but it just nullifies the auto shading, which wouldnt be a problem if it didnt make the model's face look freaking stupid

its pretty important considering its the difference between this

and this

[wicked storm]

did u try adding sharps around the eyes?

[feral yoke]

i was hoping there might be an easier way that didnt require manually adding sharps to edges, but if thats the only way then ill do it

[wicked storm]

There may be some other solution, but that's the best I could come up with at least

[feral yoke]

i just assumed there may be considering its just auto smoothing being disabled the moment it becomes a joined mesh

[wicked storm]

Just in case if you didn't know this already: you can select edge loops with alt click

[feral yoke]

i do know that, and i plan to use it quite a bit

thanks for the consideration tho

[wicked storm]

Sure thing! 😉

[atomic field]

im temped to make this an avatar

[balmy root]

That would be cool ngl

[feral yoke]

boat

[atomic field]

hmmm

what if the avatars i made were the ships i built

[spiral sigil]

be careful with big avatars

[atomic field]

exporting to unity

[spiral sigil]

most people will block you

[atomic field]

ik

im only doing this as a test

not going to any worlds with any people in em

hmm

maybe one on my cursed designs could work

i think im gonna continue this tormorrow

[feral yoke]

even that doesnt seem to fix the issue

[wicked storm]

did u check the normals?
could be there are flipped normals next to each-other (yes I'm kinda reaching now)

[feral yoke]

already recalculated everything to out

its honestly not that unbearable, i just really dont like the way the lighting reflects off of it

which shouldnt be a problem since ill use a toon shader

[cunning crescent]

what materials work with inverted spheres?

[devout scroll]

any as long as you don't have double sided enabled

[cunning crescent]

its not working for me

[devout scroll]

then it's probably not inverted

turn on backface culling in blender and see if it's inverted

or in overlays tick face orientation

[cunning crescent]

i don't use blender a lot, how do i do that?

[devout scroll]

or

https://puu.sh/HgTyp/c2d84a2327.png

[cunning crescent]

its not inverted

[devout scroll]

try again then

select all faces in edit mode, alt + N, flip

[cunning crescent]

i flipped it again, didn't work

[devout scroll]

are you in face select mode

[cunning crescent]

got it

didn't select all faces

[cunning crescent]

@devout scroll do you know of any textures that make screen go like black and white instead of a sphere surrounding you with a color on it

[devout scroll]

nop

[devout vault]

Is there a brush setting in blender

And where =^=

[devout scroll]

for what

[spiral sigil]

Making a custom-ish Yoshi model

I took a low poly Yoshi model from the sprites resource

I've managed to take out the saddle on the back and cleaned up the model

[spiral sigil]

Also I have a question. If I making this for Vr chat

Do I have to make the hand, arms, legs and head all seperate?

[spiral sigil]

Becuase I believe I would have to.

[latent mesa]

not persay. it's an art

[spiral sigil]

ah right

[latent mesa]

With my first custom model, I started with the legs then moved onto the skirt, top, chest, arms, head, hair, then eyes last.

[spiral sigil]

right

[spiral sigil]

This is what I made of mine so far, I got it from the spriters resource n such

But the eyes n stuff are completely separate mesh from the rest

The legs arms and head etc are all apart of the same mesh

[latent mesa]

you will eventually have it all in one mesh

eventually it should look similar to this

[spiral sigil]

oh no, the arms are all still apart of the same model like if you select them they would select the whole model

[latent mesa]

object mode> select mesh
Edit mode> highlight everything you want seperated then click p.
object mode> click on the new mesh

[spiral sigil]

is this maya or Blender?

[latent mesa]

blender

2.83

[spiral sigil]

oh right. I might open this up in blender afterwards

[latent mesa]

I think i recall hearing a youtuber talk about blender and maya in comparison and said blender is better in their opinion. I personally have only used blender

[spiral sigil]

Blender looks great honestly I want to learn how to use and model in that

[chrome hare]

the scariest part of modeling to me is honestly less the modeling and more the rigging and setting up stuff like eyes and mouth

[latent mesa]

if you want, remember me for later, and I will help you spit out your first model on Blender. make sure it's 2.83 tho, or else it might not go as smoothly as planned

[latent mesa]

for me, it's the uv unwrapping and generating a texture from scratch

[spiral sigil]

Honeslty for me I don't really need to model the eyes and mouth since I'm going for a ps1/n64 model

and also the reason is that I just want to go with a simple modelling technique

[latent mesa]

is all good 🙂 I offer you my services

[spiral sigil]

Thank you so much.

also Does anyone know in blender I can move parts to coordinates? I forgot or can't find it

nvm I found it

Here's the Dino man

[latent mesa]

lookin good 🙂

[spiral sigil]

Headphones WIP

[copper gull]

question, does anyone here have experience in weight painting?

im currently working on a jacket for my hobbkin avatar, my friend was helping me get weight paints set up on it by transfering the weights of the body to the jacket and for the most part it works fine, but when i toss it into vrchat, I get little spikes coming from the sides of my jackets, i've went into blender to check if there was any weight data on the affected parts, but i find no information. so im not sure whats going on with it.

These three verts in particular are giving me a migraine

[spiral sigil]

Making headphones dunno if they look alright or not

[spiral sigil]

is somebody doing commisions here ?

[neat viper]

See #community-servers-old or look for an offer in VRCTraders c:

[spiral sigil]

Now they look better

[bold gorge]

https://twitter.com/cabbagekidd/status/1361465400429408259?s=20

💫Cabbage!!!!!!💫 COMMISSIONS OPEN (@cabbagekidd)

Meet my newest from scratch #VRChat model, Katalina Lovejoy, an intergalactic fighter coming soon to a toy store near you!!! 🌟🌟🌟

Twitter · Feb 16, 2021, 12:00 AM

new personal model from scratch to experiment with weight painting armor

[restive hull]

A few things: in weight painting, one of the tools is the blur brush. it helps to blur out those sharp transitions. the spikes are due to the sudden change in weight paint. Also, in weight painting, go to the weights menu, then "limit total" and maybe go to like 3 or 4. it looks like you selected one vertex and it is being influenced by allllll the bones in the body. if you're just learning about weight painting and you wish to fix that avatar, that might be a bit of a tall order. there's a lot of prerequisite knowledge needed to do it decently. I'd look up youtube tutorials about weight painting in blender, anything made in 2.8 and up.

[latent mesa]

look at you go. pog champ in training

[visual vigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545707771589296138/811140068621680650/unknown.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545707771589296138/811140169612525578/unknown.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545707771589296138/811140328097579038/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613129770833805312/811136653456441384/unknown.png

[latent mesa]

/drool
How long did it take you to do all that? you aspire me btw

[visual vigil]

i did this all today

i did the blockout idea of what i wanted yesteray

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/709210012123398194/810754881328513054/unknown.png

as you can see, its evolved quite a bit in the nonblockout revision aka finalproduct akin

[latent mesa]

wow, so 2 days from blank canvas to this?

[visual vigil]

yeah basically like, yesterday i was chatting some people up

[latent mesa]

i don't understand that jargon

[visual vigil]

started doing some sketches while watching a movie during dinner

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613129770833805312/810762203623456808/20210215_013918.jpg

modelled it into something

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/709210012123398194/810754881328513054/unknown.png

then used this blockout to template something more detailed

so yeah basically 2 days

[latent mesa]

I can't wait to get to that level. It's the next thing I have to do. base models from scratch

[visual vigil]

its fun

[latent mesa]

it's beautiful

[visual vigil]

i started scratch modelling because:

1. the stuff i wanted costed money
2. the stuff i wanted didnt exist
3. editing models to try and make what I wanted wasnt working anymore

[latent mesa]

you make stuff like that and I make stuff like this

[visual vigil]

hardsurface is easiest way to start

organics are more difficult

most of my work is hardsurfaces

[latent mesa]

yeah, i've worked with uv maps, but never uv unwrapping

[visual vigil]

uvunwrapping, the nessessary tedious

right next to weightpainting

two things that are invisible to show off to other people, because theyre underappreciated, but both allow your model to look great

[latent mesa]

i don't mind weight painting. i think i am starting to get a feel for it

[latent mesa]

deffinitly. it's the hidden skills that you can easily tell if someone lacks

do you uv unwrap often or do you use base colors and textures? I'm asking cuz I can see you going both ways for a hard surface avatar

[visual vigil]

i always uvwrap

anime textures i bake in blender, anything realistic, i do in substance

[latent mesa]

there's another word i'm not so sure on. "bake"

"subsatnce"

[visual vigil]

Substance = Adobe Substance Painter

Bake = "Baking" blender shaders into a texture

[latent mesa]

how did you learn?

formal education?

[visual vigil]

i learned from Vrchat and youtube lol

been doing this for 3 years now

my first 3d project ever was porting a mmd model to vrchat in 2017 november

[latent mesa]

ah, ok. I picked up blender when I got the Q2 in October

[visual vigil]

took me 6 hours, watching that 1 hour tupper tutorial

[latent mesa]

mind if i send a friend request?

[visual vigil]

shure

[latent mesa]

cool. I'm self taught via yt tutorials as well. I kinda dipped my toes in content that isn't tagged for VRC just to understand the program better

i completely understand the "turning a 1 hr tutorial into a 6 hr follow along"

[visual vigil]

i used unity and blender in highschool but that wasnt really anything compared to anything im doing now

back then it was just "take stuff from asset store, make basic game"

nothing about character creation, or any of that

I WAS going to go to college this year for 3d

but coof-19 fucked me from that

[latent mesa]

The closest thing I did to 3D modeling was AUTO CAD in highschool. The closest thing I did to Unity was a C++ course in college

do you make money off this hobbie?

[visual vigil]

i do commissions occasionally

i just opened a store to sell the misc model time to time

[latent mesa]

okay. so when you create an asset, you're able to post it in a store and sell it like merch?

[visual vigil]

yep

copyrighted or not

[latent mesa]

sweet.

how does the copyright or not work?

[visual vigil]

well

short story: you can make a mario 3d, and sell it, which means your profiting off of someone elses copyrighted character, which is infringement and illegal, giving the company grounds to sue you

but because everyone does it, companies dont care, also models could fall under "parody" or "inspired by" which allows individuals to get under that

[latent mesa]

oh, gotcha.

so it's not like you ripped the character from the asset files of a different game

[visual vigil]

theres another looparound that allows you to model anything and sell it, reguardless of what it is, because you put skill and time into it, so its not so much your paying for the copyrighted product, your paying for the product XYZ PERSON made

ripping and selling is a nono

modelling and selling is a yesyes

[latent mesa]

yeah, that makes sense.

bad analogy

[visual vigil]

another loophole that people get around, is selling "Mario" but its for private use only, since its copyrighted, it cant be sold to be used in monetary promotional values

[latent mesa]

makes sense

[jade wing]

what

[stark radish]

Help it looks fine in edit mode but completely breaks in object/sculpt mode

[obsidian nova]

@stark radish You might have other shape keys applied. Go through your menu and make sure that they’re all off.

The edit mode will show only your one shape key whereas the object mode will show any and all that are applied with the sliders

[spiral sigil]

Cleaned up the headphones a bit

Now I just needto combaine the headphones with this model and now I can UV Map

Oh boy.

[latent mesa]

at least it's low poly so it wouldn't be a nightmare or a nightmare

[spiral sigil]

Pull em apart like this so it's easier

I think I have to make it so it's T-posing aswell right?

[spiral sigil]

I know the hands look a bit messy but I didn't think it would mind being it a ps1 model and I'm just gonna make it one colour anyways

[clear silo]

pain

[desert whale]

ting

[spiral sigil]

iIt be very messy but it's okay

This is messy but nI wish they was labelled

[devout scroll]

can't see anything with that background

[spiral sigil]

Luckily I did put this into photoshop

[spiral sigil]

Noiw I've already made a test texture and i forgot how to put the textures on now

Does anyone know how to put on a Uv texture in Maya?

[devout scroll]

youtube

people here mostly do blender

[toxic gate]

Ikr

I do blender and Vroid 😅

New Vs old design

Bottom is old
Top is new

[spiral sigil]

Okay the textures seemed a bit stretched

But oh well

[knotty hawk]

I don't know why there are parts on my mesh which can't be edited, I'm try to merge the arms of my sculpt to the torso.
Could somebody help me please?

[proper wyvern]

Remember when I told you to mirror the arms and then I forgot about it and told you to merge the torso and the arms so you can merge by distance before smoothing the surface? 😏 You still have that mirror modifier up boi and youve been smoothing that one arm for how many hours now? 🤭 💖

[knotty hawk]

Thank you absolute beaut Gothic! Just imagine if it wasn't noticed till way later on >.<

[proper wyvern]

And now youre making me regret telling you 😫 💔

[knotty hawk]

Somehow deep down, I knew you'd be thinking something like that 🤣

[chrome hare]

so i'm making my first character model from scratch
it's going pretty well all things considered but i dread the rigging and shapekey-ing

[spiral sigil]

Where do I get models

[latent mesa]

for a specific model, #avatar-search-old

[latent mesa]

for avatars in general, here's a pic of my bookmarks. I don't use all site. mostly booth, bowlroll, and deviantart Edit: nvm. no pics allowed i guess

[latent mesa]

rigging isn't too terrible in my opinion. Shapekeys... I wish i could set shapes in sculpt mode

[quaint jasper]

You can tho ?

[chrome hare]

i have more important things to worry about at the present time

like this octahedral pyramid not working the way i want it to lol

[latent mesa]

science

[chrome hare]

this probably isn't gonna warp well when it's rigged will it

[quaint jasper]

it won't

[chrome hare]

lmao

maybe i should try sculpting
or just not try modelling

[latent mesa]

no. don't give up. how will you get poggers?

[latent mesa]

wait? whaaaa... 🤯

[quaint jasper]

you just gotta set it to 100 when you enable sculpting

[latent mesa]

ok. 100, not 1.00? also, thank yooooou :3

[quaint jasper]

sure, 1.000

[chrome hare]

me after weight painting

[latent mesa]

nice, it works. just gotta add the hair to the head vertice group

[chrome hare]

yeah
i'm not even finished with the model that was just me messing around on a dupe

[latent mesa]

is still cool to see your progress 🙂 keep it up!

[chrome hare]

the hair has been the most painful bit so far even though it's as simple as the rest of the model

[wild parcel]

what are y'all using for anime-like hair? i've been using really thick bezier curves but i was wondering if i could get away with just extruding some planes and texturing them well

[quaint jasper]

hair cards are usually for more realistic characters, it's difficult to do toon shading on flat hair afaik, worth a try maybe, but all i've seen is generally full meshes

[wild parcel]

hmm yeah

I was thinking less hair cards and more like really continuous planes or something

im trying to work with this kinda hair so it's weird working with bezier curves imo

i mean i've worked with bezier on models plenty before, but i was wondering if there's a different approach i could take, or even a new workflow for bezier that looks better

[latent mesa]

I heard Vroid is amazing at creating quick and easy hair

[wild parcel]

Alright

[quaint jasper]

If you want to make the hair a whole single piece then yeah that'd work well too

[wild parcel]

looking at vroid's hair drawing tool, looks really cool! i'll have to give that a try

[spiral sigil]

https://i.gyazo.com/c18bc84c08b691511e4bc9086a62a2af.mp4

[wild parcel]

This is what i managed to get done just using bezier curves. Vroid doesnt support external models unfortunately

[young trench]

how do you make a avatar

[spiral sigil]

You'll have to be more specific.

[young trench]

but like i wanna make one

its pretty self explanitory

[flat fossil]

Well, making an "avatar" is something else than making a model.

[young trench]

oh

[flat fossil]

The question is very vague, if you're asking "how do you make an avatar" you could be talking about modeling it, rigging it, animating it or even just uploading it.

[young trench]

i didnt know

[flat fossil]

That's why the question is very vague. Mind you that this does seem to be the 3D modeling channel.

(I'm new here so I don't know where everything belongs yet either.)

[spiral sigil]

yeah this is for 3d models not avatar making

avatars would be things you do in unity for vrchat

[young trench]

can you get the models on a quest

like when you make them you get it on a quest

[flat fossil]

@spiral sigil Might want to refer to the appropriate channel, I don't think this is relevant to modeling.

[spiral sigil]

@flat fossil

[flat fossil]

I mean, could you send the channel where @young trench could ask his question?

[spiral sigil]

again, it depend what he needs

he got either #avatar-help or #avatars-2-general

it's not hard to check channel names and read their descriptions

[young trench]

no need to be so rude

[spiral sigil]

No need to be so sensitive

[flat fossil]

It's fine @young trench, you got a place where you can ask your question now. Thanks @spiral sigil for helping out.~

[spiral sigil]

i got bored and decided to do some time lapse of wings i am working on for a friend of mine in vrc and i thought screw it why not share it here xp https://youtu.be/h987AtRAjqo

[quaint jasper]

@spiral sigil You should really look for SVGs in blender, you'd save yourself so much time

[flat fossil]

That's honestly such good advice right there.

[chrome hare]

well that's it i think

[flat fossil]

Neat. When you get to the rigging I hope the arms will be able to stretch naturally. I kind of get flashbacks of some of my old avatars when I look at how long those arms are in comparison to the rest of the body. 😨

[chrome hare]

lol

idk if i can rig it

[quaint jasper]

you can rig anything tbh

you just need the required geometry for it to bend nicely

[chrome hare]

weight painting is scary and the automatic stuff isn't really doin it

[quaint jasper]

You can try Mixamo, but with how low poly it is, i'm not surprised you're not getting good results

[flat fossil]

Try using the gradient weight painting tool and make sure to normalize properly.

[quaint jasper]

Automatic weight paint is also just a base, you're suppose to work on it afterward

[flat fossil]

If this is your first model/avatar then don't worry about it being perfect. Just try it, see what happens and learn from it. My first avatar was an absolute disaster, but at least I learned a lot about what I should and shouldn't do. :P

[chrome hare]

this is actually not that scary

[flat fossil]

Awesome, good luck with it!

[chrome hare]

spoke too soon the lower arm doesn't want to cooperate

[flat fossil]

Look up "blender pose mode" in your search engine.

Change the bones a little when you're in it and make sure you view it in pose mode so you can have an idea of what's happening in-between editing your weight map.

There's a bunch of factors included and I'd love to help more, but I'm about to get off for the night. Good luck with it!~ ^^

[chrome hare]

ehe apparently it helps to line the skeleton up inside the model...

thanks

[chrome hare]

i'm not really sure where to ask this but
i'm aware vrchat does some black magic to hide the head from the player's pov, but the head portion of my model is made of several objects
how do i ensure they all get hidden when I put it in game?

[devout scroll]

vrchat scales head to 0

whatever is parented to the head will be hidden

[chrome hare]

hm
aren't you supposed to combine the entire thing into one mesh though?

forgive me, i'm as new as can be to thise

[azure rain]

yes that's generally better for performance as that's less draw calls if you're not having the object being planned to be toggled on and off

[chrome hare]

so how do i parent things to the head specifically?

[azure rain]

going to weight painting mode in blender and add it to the head bone or you parent the objects to the headbone in unity in the object hierarchy

[chrome hare]

oh so it goes off the weights

aight thanks

[muted raven]

Heres my new face for Yam Yam

All i gotta do now is decide what i want to do for hair

[quaint jasper]

I know the tiny imperfections are randomized, but if you could make your own mask and have them more condensed to get robot freckles that could be nice

[wild parcel]

finally done with the model, now i have to learn how to import it into vrc 😅

[cinder cradle]

@wild parcel use unity converter for vroid avatars and you should be fine

[wild parcel]

i didnt make this in vroid :V

[cinder cradle]

oh sorry

[wild parcel]

haha its alright

[cinder cradle]

what format is this

[wild parcel]

its all from scratch, blender

[cinder cradle]

it's rigged?

[wild parcel]

Not yet, was planning to at least use mixamo as a base since it's rigging had worked out fine for the base mesh, although that was before I added clothes. I know I'll have to do some weight paint work regardless

[cinder cradle]

well before vrc rig it ofc.

[wild parcel]

ofc

[cinder cradle]

remember about bone schematic

[wild parcel]

the what now?

[cinder cradle]

to fit this

[wild parcel]

ah, isn't that the unity avatar system thing? I've actually never used that, i'm now guessing that's what VRC uses...?

[cinder cradle]

if you want perfect rig follow it

[wild parcel]

lol ok

[cinder cradle]

you don't have to ofc

but i recommend

[devout scroll]

standard unity humanoid rig

check pins in #avatar-rigging for hierarchy you need

that plus fingers

[proper wyvern]

For once im gonna ask for help. How to make the snap to tool to work with a sculpt? Its not listening to me and I REALLY dont want to decimate, merge by distance and manually move each vert like I have done before since that took like 2-3 weeks on a simple clothing piece... 😅

Like ill do it if I have to but I know theres an easier way to do this.

Just need to somehow make it work.... 🤨

[muted raven]

Ruff Hair For Yam Yam

All i gotta do now is textureeeee

[muted raven]

Ok now texture time lol

[spiral sigil]

how the fuck do i do this or get someone to do this for the bones https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/harrison-boyd-0f2ccc0ec15649e78bba58e0579c8dd3

it looks good

i just can't rig the bones by myself because it's not in a t pose

[slow hound]

@spiral sigil The model is in T pose. It just has a loaded pose. You can select "rest position" instead of "pose position" in blender to see it better.

[spiral sigil]

oh

didnt know that

[spiral sigil]

why are the bones all fucked up like that

[quaint jasper]

Those are IK bone

Use Cats tool to clean it up automatically

[spiral sigil]

i have it installed

how do you do that

@quaint jasper

[quaint jasper]

Big fix button at the top

[spiral sigil]

uhhhh

i am confused

i do not see it

i dont use blender

nvm i found it

it was hidden

aand my blender crashed

my blender crashes when i click the fix model button

just instantly

the hell

:(

[delicate surge]

anyone? can help me find the ear parts source

Like this girl - Mouse ear

I wanna find that ear source

[spiral sigil]

can i like pay someone to do this for me

i cant do this shit

[desert whale]

the vrctraders discord is for that kind of paid work

[flat fossil]

That's a fun looking model @spiral sigil

[spiral sigil]

yes

but i cant get it working because i dont know anything about bone rigging and stuff

so i want to get someone to help me or do it for me

lol

i like it

[chrome hare]

i have finished another model

and i will never texture it because uvs are a disaster

[flat fossil]

UVs are really not that bad. You just have to make proper seams. It's like drawing the edges on a cardboard box, if you've ever done that.

[devout scroll]

what are you trying to do

[spiral sigil]

remove the skin under it

or fix the weight paint

[fervent light]

No, it's an issue with the weighting. Whether you like it or not.

[halcyon nexus]

it feels like every day i get close to having the motivation to work on my avatar, someone has to go and do something that makes me not want to release it, either public, or otherwise

[obsidian nova]

Release it

[halcyon nexus]

i don't want anyone to mistake me for being a "rich artist" when i'm just a miserable disabled vet barely scraping by

[desert whale]

whatcha talkin bout willis, I mean what is this about being "mistaken for a rich artist"

is your avatar Rihanna or Kanye West or someone famous

[halcyon nexus]

one of my friends released their first avatar, and one of the first people who bought it, they uploaded it onto google drive so that they could give it to their friends for free, told my friend that they were "robin hooding" from a rich artist to give to people who couldnt afford the 20 dollar avatar

[desert whale]

ah, piracy

[halcyon nexus]

but this is what i'm working on https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/788250094293876766/793370758834814976/unknown.png

[desert whale]

that's not being "miskaten for a rich artist" it's just a supper shitty customer being an asshole (and opening himself up to lawsuits and DMCA takedowns I guess)

[halcyon nexus]

something that is good for people without full body

[desert whale]

so are you a vet...erinarian?

[proper wyvern]

Retopology. Kinda wanna learn that but the tutorials ive watched dont really tell me why the snap to tool doesnt listen to me. Like I make that one face and then im supposed to snap it to the mesh but it just doesnt snap.

[devout scroll]

there's a few things to it

i forget

you either enable snapping or hold ctrl

you can also try shrink wrap modifier with it

alternatively you can look into the poly build tool, i never used it

but it seems to be good for retopo

[lusty geyser]

First retexture, I say it looks pretty okay. Would like some opinions on it and ways I could possibly make it better.

[spiral sigil]

@lusty geyser Is that part of the chest clipping through? If so you might want to delete the body thats being covered by the hoodie so it doesn't clip

[lusty geyser]

How would I delete the body without deleting everything else?

Not my model*

[spiral sigil]

Take it into blender, use xray mode to see the vertices thats being covered and simply delete them.

[lusty geyser]

Ah aight

[spiral sigil]

😄

[lusty geyser]

So how does one import the model in the unity project to blender..?

I tried looking up guides but they didnt help

[narrow cosmos]

Not sure on blender but for Maya I just use File Explorer, find the FBX/OBJ, and drop it in Maya

[spiral sigil]

Okay so redoing the model a little bit.

Made the arms longer and hands smaller aswell as the legs and feet

Also I'm going to redo the UV Map since the Last one was Shoddy

[chrome hare]

good luck with that

modeling is fun but i'm afraid i'm not going to bother with it anymore solely because of uvs

[flat fossil]

That's too bad. :v

[chrome hare]

it is

even with seams it just doesn't wanna play nice

tbh my models are just a bunch of solid colors anyways but the sdk screams if you have more than 4 materials

[flat fossil]

If you want to I could show you the basics of uv unwrapping.

[flat fossil]

I honestly.. Like.. My first guess would be that you didn't apply the scale on your mesh(es).

That's something that screws with almost everything if you don't watch out.

[chrome hare]

scale?

[flat fossil]

Yeah. If you don't apply scale then the scaling applies to everything you do, stretching from uv unwrapping to sculpting.

It's awful.

[spiral sigil]

I screwed this up. Since I was trying to remove the headphones

Dammit

[flat fossil]

Here, I made a simple lolipop model as an example.

The scaling is way off because before I started editing the mesh in edit mode, I used scaling to get it in a favorable shape to start off with.

The height in particular really stands out in the uv unwrap. Note that of course, depending on however it's scaled in your project will have the uv map deformed differently.

[spiral sigil]

I've screwed this up big time now and I don't want to redo all of it

[flat fossil]

Go to object mode in your 3D view, select your mesh and apply rotation and scale and try unwrapping it again.

[chrome hare]

oh huh

[flat fossil]

Sorry, was in the middle of explaining this, what went wrong exactly?

[flat fossil]

Speaking of, rotation can also cause it to be weird, that's why you apply rotation and scale.

[chrome hare]

would my model being made out of several objects joined together also be screwing with things

[flat fossil]

You mean you joined the meshes into one mesh?

[chrome hare]

yeah

[flat fossil]

Doesn't matter as long as the mesh' scale is 1.

[neat viper]

I tend to unwrap the individual parts first, then join them and re-unwrap it afterwards (though how well that'll work depends on what your model is probably?)

[flat fossil]

This is the proper way to do it if you want to join meshes together btw.

[chrome hare]

i see

[flat fossil]

That way you can have all the parts in a proper position and rotation to do the unwrap.

Once you got everything right you can join the objects together.

Very important to know especially if you're creating props.

[spiral sigil]

I put the headphones on the head and I've messed it up since I can't select them to remove em

If I try to select them.

They drag the face with it

I can't seem to fix it

If not I might have to redo the headphones

[flat fossil]

Go into edit mode in your 3d view with that character selected (I'm assuming it's one mesh).

[spiral sigil]

Yeah I've been trying that, It's like trying to find a needle in a hay stack

[flat fossil]

Then press L while hovering over the headphones with your mouse and in the little window select "normal" on the Delimit setting like in the picture.

Selection mode to faces and x-ray mode off is the easiest to do this with btw.

Then once, the headphones are selected (which they should), press P on your keyboard and Separate by selection.

[spiral sigil]

Oh I'm not on uh Blender im on Maya

[flat fossil]

Oohhh,

[spiral sigil]

Also.

Belnder as a X-ray mode

[flat fossil]

I don't know anything about Maya.

Should be similar, just different terminology, shortcuts and practices etc. x .x

[chrome hare]

:D

[flat fossil]

Yeah, of course, have it in the picture right there.~

[spiral sigil]

hang on lemmie google maya x-ray mode

[flat fossil]

Heyyy, I assume it was a success then?~

[chrome hare]

yeah

[neat viper]

@spiral sigil this might help? o: http://forums.cgsociety.org/t/how-to-select-linked-geometry-in-maya/1574791/3

[neat viper]

cool! c:

[flat fossil]

Awesome!~

Make sure to make as much use of the texture as possible of course, want to have certain parts of the mesh have more detail? Scale them up a bit in the uv editor if you have some space left!~

[spiral sigil]

ayyy!

It worked

[latent mesa]

I need help. I extruded in parts and everything was looking good until I started sculpting . everything turns to ribbons. help

[neat viper]

cool! c:

[latent mesa]

I'm watching a tutorial instead of teaching myself... I might have to restart completely unless I get some help /cry

[neat viper]

sorry, my comment was meant for another user - not super sure how to help in this case o:

[latent mesa]

The tutorial I'm watching seems to be a lot less of a headache, and will greatly expand my skills as a VRC content creator, so no biggie ❤️ Still difficult to walk away from hours of progress

[neat viper]

cool! c:

[chrome hare]

i'm guessing it's better to weight paint meshes before merging them too

[chrome hare]

well regardless of whether it melts ingame here's this

the skirt doesn't move with the leg well but what can ya do

[latent mesa]

add a subdivision modifier and improve the weight paint after

[quaint jasper]

Is it smooth shaded ?

[chrome hare]

good question

i have no idea

Hm.

[chrome hare]

oh also the eye bones don't work but that's a minor issue
dunno how i'm supposed to orient those

[chrome hare]

ah, i just have them rotated 90 degrees
whoopsie

[proper wyvern]

@devout scroll When you mentioned that modifier I came up with something and now im just like.... O_O

https://tenor.com/view/krumpi-pikrum-foutre-trefou-maeva-gif-19327417

It was this easy from the start??

[grand shuttle]

Does anyone know why I can't see any colour when I import a FBX file form blender into unity?

[latent mesa]

Make sure your file path is set from auto to copy after clicking export on CATS and before clicking export on the pop-up

[spiral sigil]

Gonna have to redo the body since some of the polygons and completely messed up

well alot of it

[latent mesa]

/cry I ran into the issue

[spiral sigil]

It's complictaed this is low poly it should be quite easy

[latent mesa]

you can try the snap to vertice function, but sculpting will undo it

[grand shuttle]

ooh ok I didn't know you had to export through cats, so I tried and I also chose copy on path mode like you said but it stil doesnt work?

all the textures just show up grey

[latent mesa]

i noticed this becoming a common problem. switch the matrial look up back so it's no longer legacy. manually import your textures and assign them to the correct materials

[grand shuttle]

Btw this is a model I downloaded and it has all the materials already on it, could that be a reason?

[spiral sigil]

Yeah I'm gonna have to find the model so i can redo the body

[latent mesa]

i dunno. just noticed an uptick in how often I need to assist with this

[grand shuttle]

Do i need to do anything in blender to the materials before doing this? I basically just downloaded the model through CAT and exported it to unity.

[latent mesa]

if your file path is set to copy, and you didn't move any of the locations of the textures, you should be fine

[grand shuttle]

hmm, weird

[latent mesa]

if you move the textures, the program loses the file path and will no longer be able to access the image

[grand shuttle]

Do you mean like if i moved the texture files around?

Cause I didn't mess with any of the files or anything like that

[latent mesa]

yeah. like you added it to your project with it in "downloads" then move it to "Blender files" for example. this will typically make you pink

[grand shuttle]

idk I cant tell what im doing wrong

It is my first time importing any model into unity form blender btw

[latent mesa]

vc?

[grand shuttle]

wdym?

sorry im confused

if it just means

voicechat

or like

[latent mesa]

voice chat/ screen share

[grand shuttle]

aaaaah

yeah

well its kinda late for me

and I don't want tot disturb my family

[latent mesa]

k

[grand shuttle]

so unfortunately

[latent mesa]

dm if you wanna later

[grand shuttle]

i am still thinking what I could be doing wrong tho

[latent mesa]

i also have a server

[grand shuttle]

ooh nice

wait so ok, this are my steps that I just did: In blender i pressed export model on CAT and exported it into my unity project assets. Literally all i did

so idk of there is an extra step i missed or?

[proper wyvern]

The difference! 😫 💖

[grand shuttle]

oh

Yeeey i fixed it

was what i was trying to say

[prime zenith]

Hello, i'm trying to figure out what this texture is, and how to use it.

it's marked as "abo" so i presumed it was meant to be an ambient occlusion texture

[latent mesa]

are you doing a re-topology?

[chrome hare]

octarian moment

[prime zenith]

octarian moment indeed

i'm trying to use the octotrooper and am flipping out over trying to get all the textures up

[latent mesa]

looks like a tenticle. i dunno how you'd use it. have you tried doing the uv wrap and map?

[prime zenith]

i'll send all the textures

and what i have so far

[chrome hare]

ambient occlusion may not be the worst guess

[prime zenith]

yeah just the game usually uses "ao" for ambient occlusion

and besides i have no idea how to hook it up

[latent mesa]

I'll probably have a better idea about your octo-arm, in a month. working on my second model rn

but waiting for help

[proper wyvern]

Kiiiiinda... 😅 The actual way of doing it isnt working so im coming up with a new way of doing it. Gonna have a lot of merging etc to do at the end of this but hey if it works it works! 🤷‍♀️

[prime zenith]

Here's all the included textures

[latent mesa]

assign it to your material in blender or unity. the mesh needs to be UV wrapped and map to it the texture

[prime zenith]

and here's what i have so far

oh i can't send all the texures at once

[latent mesa]

best of luck. make sure to come back and flex when it's done. I like seeing stuff like that

[prime zenith]

i'm in blender rn but i'm not sure where to assign the ambient occluosion

[proper wyvern]

I mean this definitely is faster than the actual way of doing it... Im pretty sure im going to regret doing it this way at some point but so far so good! 😅

[latent mesa]

have you tried changing the texture of the material?

[prime zenith]

uuh

no

sorry i'm a total beginner at this

i have a node for the image texture

but i don't know what to attatch it to

[latent mesa]

it's why I'm here. to make the process less painful than it was for me

[proper wyvern]

Im not the type to flex though ❤️

[spiral sigil]

Now I just need the arms

I have Hands how do I make Low Poly arms

[latent mesa]

click this and choose desired texture. do not move the file location after

[latent mesa]

flex in private then? my dm's are always open

[chrome hare]

in one corner we have me making n64 tier models, in the other we have derev porting literal n64 models

[latent mesa]

@chrome hare then you have me in the corner eating paste

[prime zenith]

where's that?

[proper wyvern]

Ehh... I feel like I shouldnt since this do be my first 3D model that ive made from scratch... I was thinking of making it public though once im actually happy with it... 😅 💖

[latent mesa]

do eeeeet

[latent mesa]

look at the first pic

[proper wyvern]

I dont wanna flex... 😅 Its nothing special anyway..

[chrome hare]

i might public the bee, she was more of a learning model anyway, and quest users might appreciate it

[latent mesa]

i meant share as public once you're happy with it. silly 😛

[proper wyvern]

Ah! Well that I was thinking of doing. :3 Leaving a part of me in VR Chat feels almost romantic... 😉

[slow hound]

Have you tried using a "mix" node? Apparently, that is how you mix both the albedo and the AO, you then add the mix to the base color ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReO5cezg2ig

[latent mesa]

what is this sorcery? /cry

[slow hound]

They are nodes for the shaders, Titanic was using nodes and didnt know where tu connect the AO to, so this might help :0

[prime zenith]

it made everything go super pale

[slow hound]

Have you tried changing the settings like the video suggested?

[latent mesa]

i've never seen that screen before. i feel intimidated

[slow hound]

That is usually for rendering in blender, not really needed for importing models to vrchat

[prime zenith]

i changed the settings

it's less pale but still very much pale

[slow hound]

hmm I am not sure then. Not familiar with AO, sorry just found this quick way to mix it. If you are planning to put it in Unity, im sure there are many shaders that have a AO slot

[prime zenith]

thing is i don't even know if it is an ao anyway

the file is called "abo"

i know it probably won't matter but i just want to make sure i have every texture mapped correctly

[latent mesa]

I gotta go check out this "rendering" you speak of. sounds like it will be handy some day

[grand shuttle]

so i am trying to export from unity to VRM using univrm but for some reaosnwhen I press theVRM menu I can't press export humanoid? like its grayed out

nvm

fixed

[spiral sigil]

Okay questtion.

When making an avatar for VR chat does all arms and legs n stuff have to be on a seperate mesh?

[cinder cradle]

no lol

[latent mesa]

no. ideally it will be a single mesh in the end unless it's a toggle

[spiral sigil]

Ah right

[cinder cradle]

where did you got that idea.