3d-modeling

[noble bough]

I mean it not that important, cause its just blender

[jagged moat]

Interesting, could you post another screenshot?

[noble bough]

but it still annoys me

[jagged moat]

Tbh I'm still pretty interested in why it's not working xd

[jagged moat]

If you skip the green channel inversion and just go from texture->Normal Map->BSDF does that look right?

[noble bough]

ehhh

this has to be a joke

,,,

[jagged moat]

Ah, you still need to swap this to the bottom instead

[noble bough]

huh

i dont have to change anything

look at the screen

its fixed

i just had to plug it in normally with the normal map thing between

[jagged moat]

Oh, did you keep that in?

[noble bough]

no

this is all

[jagged moat]

Oh yeah, I meant that it was the subtract order that looks like it was causing the issue for future reference. Though if it's the right way round you're good to go

[noble bough]

thank you so so much

life saver

[jagged moat]

np, gl with the rest of the setup

[noble bough]

X_x

[jovial seal]

i wanna apply a new pose as the rest pose (adjusting my hand) but THEN it screws up EVERYTHING else in my blendshapes

easy way to do this?

[noble bough]

made some lashes for this cutie today

[tawny pollen]

see I'm trying to make an Anakin Skywalker lightsaber and every time I model in details, it gets funky

and this is where the nightmare began

[noble bough]

ok what exactly is the problem there ? cant really tell what's wrong, cause of the render @tawny pollen

[tawny pollen]

I'll show you what went wrong

well this is the solution

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920661468658143232/1334669342251552808/image.png?ex=679e07f0&is=679cb670&hm=c3fbd1d6a97f60e50521b098f2955e761807a615e4259462978638759cbe402d&

and that was the problem

[noble bough]

ok can you atleast say what is wrong. the picture without any context is not very helpful xd

[astral pond]

what

[astral pond]

this gives me crazy smug vibes

i love it

[noble bough]

oh you should see my original model then

[astral pond]

i beg you to put a burger king crown on it

[tawny pollen]

Aren't you a visual learner?

[noble bough]

If I get a shown a picture of mesh with textures on it with no context whatsoever and no obvious errors ?

[tawny pollen]

The error itself is in the mesh but like I said I already fixed that

[noble bough]

all good then, sorry if I didnt get what was wrong xdd

[tawny pollen]

It's okay

[jovial seal]

finally decided to model clothes for my character first outfit done

next up is repurposing my cibernetic armour lol

[lofty violet]

Six can you help me model a fox avatar from scratch please I need help to move and do it in blender

Can anyone help me please

[lofty violet]

Can anyone teach me how to model it in a blender?

É pra um jogo que eu quero fazer

[noble bough]

what exactly do you need help with

do you have any experience modeling in 3d ?

[lofty violet]

I don't have it, it's my first time messing with 3d

[noble bough]

ok the first thing I would advise you to do, is getting to know blender with some tutorials. there are a lot of good ones online to get you started. you should really learn the basics of blender before you try to tackle an entire 3d character for vr chat. there is not really a "fast road" here, you sadly have to endure the beginning, but once you got it nailed down, its really easy

[noble bough]

btw who is this six you mentioned here

[cobalt tiger]

Anyone know how to 3d model in hair tufts? its my first furry model (retopo and sculpt)

[noble bough]

Do you mean the hair on the sides in the 2nd pic?

[cobalt tiger]

yeah but nvm i got it

[noble bough]

How did you solve it

[cobalt tiger]

blending normals

on curves

[noble bough]

You got a picture? Not familiar with that

[cobalt tiger]

im working on it rn but theres a video on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgVEdS6sZsk

[noble bough]

one more thing that I just noticed: how many subdiv levels are on the head ? in the picture the head has 10k tris, which is quite a lot for a head

[cobalt tiger]

its the whole body

[noble bough]

ah

damn how did you do 10k

can you show

[cobalt tiger]

yep

i filled in the holes

no subdiv

its just retopo

[noble bough]

now as i see the entire model, the proportion is a bit off

the legs part is too long

legs and torso should be equally high

[cobalt tiger]

i followed a reference

the arms should be corrrect too since i posed them

i never heard of a torso being equally long as legs??

thats some short legs imo

unless youre in a low proportion percentile

theres this anthro stats resource thing

then again, it was taken by the us military

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA611869.pdf

[noble bough]

yeah i wrote it wrong, i meant that the upper body and lower body ( if divided on waist are equal

and that is not the case here weirdly

they are almost exact halves

[cobalt tiger]

ahh i see

maybe loin/groin area instead of waist

waist is thinnest part of upper body

typically

on fit person

easily adjustable though

[noble bough]

you get what i mean

[cobalt tiger]

yep!

i can just proportionally edit probably

[noble bough]

yeah true

[cobalt tiger]

do you have an artstation?

im surprised you would put a real name on here if you play vrchat. If you play vrchat 0.o

i couldnt google search John Coleman 3d artist though

theres too many w same name XD

[noble bough]

not even artsation linked

[cobalt tiger]

why dont you make up a username?

just a suggestion

unless its your collegues

ooooh nice

hi predox!

do you know 3d stuff and vrchat setup?

[noble bough]

can you send some works

im interested

[cobalt tiger]

me too nice sculpts

in pfp

you should try joining vrctraders

what happened

[noble bough]

scammer i guess

[cobalt tiger]

lol

[noble bough]

no professional writes that they are

[cobalt tiger]

yeah thats not very humble

unless its a resume

or something

[noble bough]

and no artstation is dead giveaway

[cobalt tiger]

yep

i better put my artstation instead then! lol idk i use carrd which links to my artstation

carrd has all my links

but its unclear since u have to click an image to go there

or an icon

i suck at websites even if its a template

[cobalt tiger]

do you know how to export blender render animations?

im struggling to do it

all it says is to export as png

i did render as animation

but i just got a billion images in my temp folder

which i dont want to turn into an animation... i just want a high res video

[noble bough]

i dotn really use blender for rendering

sry

[cobalt tiger]

what do u use if i may ask?

[noble bough]

marmoset

but its not free

[cobalt tiger]

ah

[noble bough]

i forgor to mention, that I also haven't really done any animations lately

have you fixed the proportion problem ?

[hushed leaf]

ffmpeg -f image2 -i img%04d.png -vcodec libx264 (and other options) output.mp4

[spiral sigil]

oh is this the blender chat

[spiral sigil]

What weight should I use for weight painting

[cobalt tiger]

weight everything to the specific bone to 1/ red then blend to 0/blue where you dont want it to effect

[spiral sigil]

Ummmmmmmmm

Okay

[cobalt tiger]

https://youtu.be/PLWv9yjVaoU?si=gMU_5DFCdjwFsfg8

[noble bough]

how would you go about modeling teeth like these ? one mesh to get the silhouette and then paint the shadows on it, or model each tooth seperately

idk whats more efficient for vr chat

[hushed leaf]

end with one mesh for the whole head regardless of how you build it, and of course minimal polygons is better, assuming it looks right.
Could do a high-poly model then bake normals into a low-poly version.

[noble bough]

with one mesh do you mean one connected mesh or one mesh that consists of several meshes

[hushed leaf]

oh I mean one mesh object, doesn't matter what parts you have in there for VRChat purposes

[faint bronze]

One mesh but with the curves, then texture

[noble bough]

huh what curves

[faint bronze]

I just meant the curves of the teeth. How teeth naturally curve

To model that, but keep it one mesh

[hushed leaf]

one actual mesh or one mesh object?

[keen sierra]

id do one mesh and make a normal map for the gap indicators - this ways youre saving on polys that would just overlap each other in between teeth

[pallid cradle]

i am dreading unwrapping this

[azure rain]

trying to make a low poly furry and for some reason the neck area with the render is having a very noticeable seam and being very metallic any of y'all have an idea why that might be
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/751549138184700146/1337640285621981245/image.png?ex=67a82e18&is=67a6dc98&hm=eb27c4f3e3798673c096e47c0b5f16d8f153172360ebee731bca701e03a58b00&

[exotic obsidian]

Try selecting all the vertices/faces then pressing Shift+N to recalculate normals?

[azure rain]

yeah that ended up fixing it

[exotic obsidian]

Ah, okay

[timber bay]

hello i wanted to export a sign i made to sketchfab but it only has texture on one side, pictures related

[faint bronze]

Are you sure everything is UVd the way you want it?

I would double check that

[candid thistle]

Hey can someone help me with like exporting

I’m planning to buy an avatar, but right now I’m testing with a free model on how to export stuff.

After I get the model, do I export it into blender, then to Unity, then to vrchat?

And if so can someone please give me a good video or tell me how.

[devout orchid]

if its ready to use avatar, blender part may be skipped, blender is for modifying/kitbashing/adding etc

[prime bridge]

anyone got a tool that helps me mirror armature and mesh together? I got a wing done rigged, and I wish to mirror it with proper naming convetion i tried Easy weight but doesnt work on my version of blender

[carmine pagoda]

You could use a blender mirror modifier.

Unless that won’t work for some reason

[fast wedge]

Do yall have any tips or suggestions on making 3D model rigging more efficient, especially when it comes to face rigging?

[carmine pagoda]

Im trying to make a texture. I have a few problems, I cant paint on the picture on the left and i cant figure out how to get it on my lamp. Suggestions are greatly appreciated.

[rapid spade]

I don't know if I can improve it

[past steppe]

sup, im using blender for the first time, but i dont know what to do. shuld i like set a goal like, trying to make a world or avatar first as i learn how to use it or shuld i just start by learnig how to use it,but the thing is that having a goal(as for making a world or avatar) could make it easier for me to learn it, but i dont know im kinda lost

[faint bronze]

looks pretty great! How's the edgeflow?

[faint bronze]

start with the blender donut tutorial on youtube. it'll teach you all the basics

[heady hill]

Henlo. Wondering if someone could help me UV unwrap a model so I can print it 2d?

My PC is down currently and I can't figure out PaperMaker

[hushed leaf]

maybe make a donut

[rapid spade]

I don't quite understand your question

[faint bronze]

Your topology

[tough plover]

it looks like a sculpt, topology doesn't really matter at this stage

[rapid spade]

I understand now, I haven't done the retopology yet

[faint bronze]

I gotcha. I was just curious. Looks like a great sculpt though!

[jovial seal]

im starting to feel like front facing eyes on a furry model are impossible lol

[swift jolt]

yea half the model was inside out... shading like that usualy appears were it is connecting inside out faces to outside in faces... :D

[modest widget]

What if UModeler X had been by your side while creating the 'door animation' in Unity?
Let me show you now! 🔍

[jaunty zealot]

I feel like I just watched an advert

[raven ridge]

Because it is

[spiral sigil]

[pallid cradle]

Lasor shotgen

[noble bough]

I haven't shared my last big project here yet, I believe. This was modeled after the concept I found online in the 3rd picture.

[green rampart]

sasha design: @/Nymphicus_hcus on X
pomni design: @/_bunthing on instagram

[swift jolt]

Na, blender is easier to learn

[ripe herald]

I created the world Radiant Nights. It’s published

It’s a bar club with music and games. I’ll be adding an additional floor by end of next month. I’m Waffles, the owner of Radiant Nights. I hope you enjoy it

[swift jolt]

first time ever trying to model a head from scratch... didnt know i knew how to... just kinda freeballed it

[hushed leaf]

well it certainly looks like a head!

[jagged moat]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-austin-powers-laugh-gif-16814257

[swift jolt]

hair still needs work cause it really bad and he is missing hands currenylu

[faint bronze]

It looks like it's from an old game

Love it

[dull willow]

Drift motorcycle physics and collider rig

[orchid phoenix]

i think im actually going to die

[white jay]

** I need tutorials **
Okay, time to face facts and accept throwing myself into the deep-end of avatar creation was a very bad idea. It's time I learnt this properly. I need tutorials. Starting with blender, how to use, and moving onto the basics of creating a character. I've the day off today and it's 11AM. I'd like to be able to show off a (probably ugly as hell) human looking, closer to cartoony than photorealistic, person in this channel later tonight and maybe be able to move on to refining it over the weekend. Who can point me to a good tutorial set, ideally free but if you think you know of a miracle working paid course that I could get started on, I'm all ears 🙂

And don't worry, I am well aware this is going to be a long journey, but I also need to feel some sense of achievement early on in the process 🙂

For context, my 3D modeling experience to date is pretty much 100% using OpenScad to write javascript like code to build rigid bodies for my 3D Printer. Things like tools and fixings, nothing organic like us fleshy meat sacks 😅

[solar fossil]

Its on an older version of blender, but still a very good tutorial series
https://youtu.be/F1CTfis1TEg

[empty gazelle]

My friend passed me a novabeast blend file and told me to port an outfit to it
I'm concerned why it actually looks decent

[mint silo]

anyone know why shade smooth doesnt work for an object in blender? some parts of the object work, but some still look like they are shaded flat

[tough plover]

the mesh might be split at those spots, or there are faces on the inside

[mint silo]

i thought that too, but no, i already merged all the vectors by distance, removed the vectors, and it didnt change a thing

[tough plover]

can you screenshot what it looks like in edit mode

[mint silo]

oh i found the problem, i enabled "keep sharpness"

[jagged moat]

God I've slept on the cloth filter brush for so long

[hushed leaf]

ooh those look great

[jagged moat]

thxthx

[pseudo knoll]

hot take but blender would be 400% more fun if it had the interactive ui sound design and chill musical vibes of balatro

[cerulean latch]

yea SERIOUSLY. why can't more things be whimsical like that

modern desktop software not having any UI sounds at all is such a miss. i want to make my work feel gamey

[solar fossil]

Huh, wonder if one could make a plugin for that

[hushed leaf]

having made a plugin recently, I think probably, yeah.

[devout orchid]

subway surfers area integrated in workspace

[wild sequoia]

zbrush sculpt for new avatar

[faint bronze]

omg

I'm not usually a fan of furry models but this is fantastic

[wild sequoia]

thanks! I'm trying to land somewhere between furry and the more japanese style kemono models

[dull willow]

hitboxes for the projectiles

[tulip verge]

whats a recommeneded version of blender to use to edit avatars w cats plugin without it breaking? Im having sm trouble

[tough plover]

the CATS plugin is not required for general avatar creation. if you are trying to work with MMD models, then it can be useful to apply certain fixes. it does have a lot of extra utilities that may be useful still. use this to find the appropriate version for your blender version https://catsblenderplugin.xyz/

I would recommend using the latest LTS blender version.

[tulip verge]

ty!!

[royal cobalt]

Hey, is there anyone experienced with this model base? I want to use it to make something, but anything 3D modelling scares me and I know absolutely nothing about it. I'm happy to pay for edits
https://skip4d.gumroad.com/l/chibi?&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vrcarena.com

[green rampart]

Salad Fingers for Devil's Dawn (@/DEVILSDAWNRBLX on X)

[noble bough]

doing a kayuza print for a friend

[thin mesa]

for a game I'm developing in the fture

[mild nimbus]

I know this is prrob a very basic question but

Lets say I make a outfit for the Selestia base.

The heel shapekey is not steep enough for the kinda heels im looking for.

If i model the heels any steeper it will go through the floor (I cannot touch the body)

What should I even do in that situation? Just let the person playspace it to correct it?

or use a alpha texture to hide the feet and just add my custom stockings that come with the heels.

which will have its own leg height

Tbh I just said my solution anyway but any insight is appreciated.

Oh wait I cant just animate the hipbone upwards on toggle nvm

lol

[jagged moat]

Sick texture job!

[wild briar]

I like the tiki torches

[wild briar]

I can help with edits if youd like.

[royal cobalt]

No longer necessary, but appreciated

[mint lark]

How do I shape 3D letters in blender?

Making that text match the ref imagine below it ^

[faint bronze]

I would just make the camera be straight down and quad draw (or whatever the tool is called in blender) over the reference, then extrude up

[mint lark]

Okay

[hushed leaf]

you could do a fun thing with displacement where you literally turn the 2D image into a 3D model. Make the image black/white then this is a decent guide:
https://realityfakers.net/tutorials/2d-image-to-3d-model/

[devout orchid]

and blender also can work with fonts

[mint lark]

Thanks for the help

[hushed leaf]

I keep forgetting this!

[faint bronze]

When you finish this, will you be selling the base/avatar anywhere?

Or is it personal

[wild sequoia]

yes, probably in 1 or 2 weeks. I don't know if I'm allowed to advertise here but I'll post about it on bsky / twitter and at least post a screenshot of the final model here

[faint bronze]

I found your gumroad on your Twitter so I'll be checking it periodically (:

[faint bronze]

lil room modeling and render I did in a day for ideation for a short film

[green rampart]

design by _bunthing on instagram

[mint lark]

I'm new to blender, this is a plane that I imported to unity but only one side shows. How do I make it an object that will show both sides?

[winter iron]

duplicate the entire thing then flip faces

[viscid birch]

flip faces is under Mesh > Normals > Flip

[mint lark]

Thx

[swift jolt]

faces only have one side... so if you want both sides you have to duplicate and flip or make it thicker

[unkempt gale]

Okay so do you want two different sides like a front and back or do you not care if its the same on both sides?

There are shaders like poiyomi that will turn off the face culling to save on polygons so you dont have to dupe it. However the draw back is it will be the same image on both sides. If you want two unique basically a front and a back you will have to duplicate and flip normals.

[tough plover]

Poiyomi lets you specify a separate texture (and mask basically any effect) to front or back faces

[unkempt gale]

Oooh i didnt know that o .o

[mint lark]

I was wanting it to show both sides of that object

[tough plover]

then your options are:

• use a shader that lets you turn Backface culling off, such as Poi's (but many others can also, if you're making this for a world, use Silent's Filamented or something)
• duplicate the mesh and do alt + N > Flip to flip the normals for the duplicated mesh

[fair mason]

i really like the n64 promotional mario art

[cobalt crag]

Anyone here has experiences with making shields in general?

[hushed leaf]

what do you consider a "shield" here?

[cobalt crag]

like... one of those typical shields you'd see knights carrying and stuff.

i just had a question that i do have some reference pics but they're kind of curvey like bowing outward so i'm kinda of struggling to get them "flatten" in perspective so i can make a model in blender off it

just sort of like asking for advices on how to do it

[hushed leaf]

ahh, got it. I'd probably make a large cylinder then cut out a section of it. To get the curve.

Or you could make it flat, then subdivide then select the middle and move it out with proportional editing on so it starts to curve.

[cobalt crag]

i actually made the first model flat off it but some of the details and the edges around it was distorted because of the curve on shield, so it feel like it's fighting my brain and i've been struggling to get it right since then

I mostly got the front center porportions somewhat right but not the edges of it

[hushed leaf]

or... you could make the model flat, then shrinkwrap it to a cylinder

[cobalt crag]

yeah but i'm just asking for advices to get the details of it "un-distorted" if that make sense

if not, it's ok! i appreciate you giving some suggestions anyway in terms of putting model on cylinder

[hushed leaf]

not sure what to tell you without seeing what you mean by distorted

[cobalt crag]

Look at the outside edges of it, that's the slight distorted details for me because they're curved back

i know the most of center on it is somewhat flat and that's the part i managed to get it modelled

[hushed leaf]

sorry, which edge?

yeah I'm not sure what specifically you're referring to as distorted, I guess.

is this an actual model?

[cobalt crag]

it's a video game model thing, it's God Eater Resurrection

and no i'm not going to rip the model out of it, i'm not comfortable doing that.
I just wanted to replicate it into a model on blender

[azure rain]

as far as like copyright infringement would be concerned that's functionally equivalent

[cobalt crag]

Okay

Sorry for bringing it up then

[azure rain]

like feel free to try to make the shield just be aware that it's not going to sidestep the aspect of using someone else's IP

[royal canyon]

for self-use shouldnt it be ok?

[azure rain]

still copyright infringement just unlikely to be enforced

fanart legally speaking is not legal it's just tolerated by corporations

[azure mountain]

Hi, I'm having difficulty subtracting weight paint from a specific bone or vertex group. I either select the vertex group item or I ctrl shift select a bone from front bone view, either way, when I click and drag the curser around the effected area of the mesh, the subtract doesn't affect the area. Accumulated is unchecked, Auto Normalized is unchecked, Draw is the only option that works with subtract. Note: Just as I can't subtract weight, I can't add weight either. What am I doing wrong? I've adjusted the Radius, Strength, Weight toggles, everything, nothing is working.

Blender

[jovial seal]

i made some pants :)

[orchid phoenix]

godd i need to learn z brush

[cursive summit]

I was trying to import a .pmx file using the MMD tools addon but they keep showing up like this

I switched to Blender 4.2 and it STILL does it

nvm, I had version v2.10.3 and not the latest v4.3.1

[noble bough]

finger

I hate 'em

[hushed leaf]

that's what makes them good

[noble bough]

im also pretty happy with how these turned out

[jagged moat]

Lookin good!

[noble bough]

9/10 dentists recommend using what he uses

[thorn yarrow]

Does anyone know where to get a Sea of Thieves galleon model? I cant find one

[noble bough]

i dont think you will find the exact sea of thieves model. there are 100% free galleon models out there tho

[mint silo]

im having so much trouble baking textures, can someone help me? my texture keeps turning black

[hushed leaf]

what's your process?

[mint silo]

process?

[hushed leaf]

you're baking textures right?

so how are you doing this now

[mint silo]

idk if it helps, but in the material preview, the face is all black

[hushed leaf]

hmm nothing there looks out of the ordinary

[mint silo]

no matter what i try, it keeps turning black

not only that, but it changes another texture intergrated in the shader

[hushed leaf]

These days I do this using SimpleBake

possibly you don't have the right image node selected when you're doing it?

[mint silo]

i select the faceDiffuse image texture you see

[hushed leaf]

hmm do you need to be doing this with cycles? I haven't done it manually in a while

[mint silo]

yes

however hold on

let me show you something

this has multiple nodes inside of it, containing a texture

[hushed leaf]

huh I have no idea what that is 🙂

[mint silo]

this is how it looks like

in fact, the "Plastic001_1K_Roughness.jpg" texture node also turns black when baking the textures

[orchid phoenix]

ouppy

[runic pebble]

can someone explain why this is glossy. just exported it from blender as an FBX and dropped it in unity it has no materials aswell.

[small slate]

smoked cheese cookie wip

[winter iron]

Change the material

[runic pebble]

I've tried putting a new mat on, but it always has the gloss on it.

[faint bronze]

It's probably the normals

Try recalculating? Or turning off blender's auto smooth feature

[runic pebble]

I've tried the recalculating, but the other one i have no it would be overe here right

[jagged moat]

If you apply a new material with just the standard shader do you still get that look? Kinda looks like it's partially metallic

[runic pebble]

yes get the same look

[jagged moat]

In edit mode in blender, select all the faces and do alt+n -> reset vectors

[runic pebble]

still is glossy

[jagged moat]

Could you give a screenshot of the inspector tab in Unity with the trouser mesh selected?

[jagged moat]

Smoothness on that material is at 0.5 which could give that look

[runic pebble]

i noticed that to, but even when switching it out for a new mat it still has the gloss

[jagged moat]

a new material with the metallic / smoothness set to zero?

[runic pebble]

yup

[jagged moat]

In this tab, does it say 'Clear Custom Split Normals Data' with the trousers selected??

[runic pebble]

yes it does

[jagged moat]

Hit clear and reimport

[runic pebble]

still glossy

[jagged moat]

do you have any modifiers in blender?

[runic pebble]

just the armature modifiers

i did use mirror, sub divided, and Shrink wrap when making them

[jagged moat]

In blender do you have backface culling enabled in the viewport?

[runic pebble]

not sure. that would be up here?

[jagged moat]

On the dropdown in solid view

[runic pebble]

i did not have it on

[jagged moat]

After enabling it do any of the faces go invisible?

[runic pebble]

only the ones on the inside of the pants

backface on

back face off

[jagged moat]

Yk, I'm starting to think that's how it's meant to look when it's lit by a realtime directional light as opposed to light probes. though I might just be gaslighting myself

[runic pebble]

i have no clue

[jagged moat]

Amma boot up a project and check for myself xd

[runic pebble]

all right lol

[jagged moat]

I'm invested in this now xd

[runic pebble]

this happens all the time when i make clothes its frustrating

could it be something with normals or auto smoothing

[jagged moat]

If you don't have an auto smooth modifier and you hit clear custom split normals data auto smoothing shouldn't be enabled

[runic pebble]

okay

Just going down the checklist at this point

[jagged moat]

I could take a look at the model if you're okay with sharing it?

[runic pebble]

please

i sent it over

[jagged moat]

Figured it out, the scale wasn't applied in blender so the shading was getting messed up

[runic pebble]

is that a setting when export

[jagged moat]

With the trousers selected, ctrl+a -> scale

[runic pebble]

thank you

[jagged moat]

np

[runic pebble]

so many hours of work

[jagged moat]

That's 3d for ya xd

[runic pebble]

Seriously lol

[faint bronze]

Wow what a weird fix

I'll remember this

[jagged moat]

yeah, it's likely that it was calculating the shading at this size and then applying it to the normal shaped model. That's my current theory

[faint bronze]

Amazing work

[noble bough]

thanks, still wip tho, but will give it my all

[mint silo]

so, i was doing edge wear on textures using this tutorial, but i was wondering if there is a way to create edge wear based off of the normal map of an object, if so, how would i do that?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wEXl3LncAc&t=2s

[grave coyote]

I created this models based on the first image as requested by my Client
What do you guys think?

[hushed leaf]

oh? which base is this?

I see.

[noble bough]

can you show the wireframe

[noble bough]

also the blade part here is wrong. they are all split, but yours on his right hand is just one

cant really tell much, cause white material and those angles you took make it hard to tell 😄

[grave coyote]

I will update here when I'm done

[noble bough]

or just send one right now

would there be a problem ?

[grave coyote]

Not a problem but I'm busy
I'll update when I'm done

[noble bough]

ok

last thing: what program* did you use ?

cause the screens look like substance

[faint bronze]

Could be zbrush

[hushed leaf]

that was my guess

[nocturne quiver]

I'm the worst at 3D modeling.... I need to fill in these eyelids so they're not hollow like this. What's the best way to do this?

[azure rain]

your geometry also seems like it needs a lot of work as it seems to have no sense of Edge Loops whatsoever https://blenderartists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/4/b/4bd01a89c31ff2fc919702ca33279d51f5ece318.jpg so it would be kind of difficult for you to make facial animations with it being just that teeny tiny grid of squares

[hushed leaf]

probably are still doing sculpting and haven't done a retopo yet

[solar fossil]

^ This man right here is about to have so many scammers in his DMs

[grave coyote]

😂😂😂😂
You're probably right

[violet pecan]

Owww damn thanks Hahaha didn't think of that

[solar fossil]

Check out the VRCTraders discord server, there the artists actually get verified before they are allowed to take on commissions

[golden raptor]

What would be the best way to weight paint this? im having some trouble

[noble bough]

well first off, where are the hips for that char ? if you go by the picture on the bottom right, the hips are pretty high up and the legs of the onesie are too far down (meaning that the separation between each leg is way too low. thats also the reason why the clipping occurs on the bottom picture, cause the fabric wouldnt normally stretch that much, if the size was accurate. that is no problem tho.

you should try to either fix the size issue I mentioned or, which is optimal if that is the only outfit, you could just simply deleted the mesh below the clothes. it wouldnt be shown anyway and you would save precious triangles. you would have to readjust the rig obviously.
hope that helps, if you have questions, just ask 🙂

[grave coyote]

What do you guys think....
A 3D Character I was commissioned by @allure.swan

[noble bough]

I mean it looks alright. You could definitely improve it by a lot if you spend more time in the texturing or even the modeling part, cause some parts like the feet, chest or face look off. Other than that great work. What are the stats on this one ? (triangles, textures, etc. )

Btw how did you make this model ? did you use blender, zbrush ? @grave coyote

[grave coyote]

Blender

Thanks for the review
I'm just a beginner so I'm just trying my best since I want to make my first commissioned project epic
@noble bough

[noble bough]

For your next project or commission you should definitely focus on the shapes and overall appeal. You got good basics in modeling, but some parts that I mentioned definitely need some more work. I recommend using more references for your models ( which I think you did for gotou)

[grave coyote]

Yeah, wow

This is the reference image

[noble bough]

well that is not the only shot of him obviously

I am a bit confused because here, his arms are singular blades, but in yours, they are connected between

[grave coyote]

I also made some adjustments since my client actually wants it to be real ugly since it's supposed to be a monster

[noble bough]

adjustments like ?

[noble bough]

I mean this design is terrifying, replicating that would be definition of monster

[grave coyote]

I didn't even bother checking the internet for it

I didn't know about him originally, that's what my client gave me

[noble bough]

well

you should

I mean you need to know what you work with

[grave coyote]

Rookie mistake😅

[noble bough]

gather references find more information about it

no problem

😄

[grave coyote]

I learnt my mistake
Not commiting them anymore

[noble bough]

always gather references, makes it easier to know what you want to create, because you can actually see it, and not just in your mind

have you sent your client this already ?

[grave coyote]

Okay
I really appreciate

[grave coyote]

Yeah

[noble bough]

response ?

[grave coyote]

He likes it

I will make some improvement on it

[noble bough]

just out of curiosity, no need to answer, how much is he paying you for it

for what exactly ? the fully rigged model ?

[grave coyote]

Yh

[noble bough]

if it is really only 75, i want to be honest with you. you are getting ripped off

[grave coyote]

Ouch
It's my first time and I don't know much about the pricing

[noble bough]

its ok, lets make some calculations so you get what I mean

how many hours have you used already for this project?

approximately

[grave coyote]

Ok

[grave coyote]

Approx 8-10 hrs
I did it throughout the entire night
Then did the texture during the day

[noble bough]

ok so lets say you have the texturing done to simplify what I mean. you still need to rig the model and make it ready in unity

thats also another couple of hours

lets say in the end you have 15 hours of work

would you agreee ?

[grave coyote]

Yes

[noble bough]

if you now divide your hours by the amount you are getting paid for it, you know your hourly wage

which would be 5 dollars / euros

which is WAAAY to low

[grave coyote]

Oh

I never thought of that

[noble bough]

you have to approach it from the other side

how much would you consider paying for 1 hour of your labour/work ?

[grave coyote]

I didn't know how to calculate pricing

[noble bough]

10 dollars, 15 dollars, 20 ?

[grave coyote]

I will say $20

[noble bough]

ok lets take 20

[grave coyote]

That's what I would say if I'm asked directly

[noble bough]

take 20 times your hours

thats 300

minimum

thats what you should take atleast

[grave coyote]

Oh

I now understand what you mean

[noble bough]

yeah

[grave coyote]

So I am getting only 25%

[noble bough]

im still not doing commissions, because I feel like I wouldnt be happy with the works myself. but if I would, I would take atleast 30-40 an hour

you have to know your value

otherwise you would be getting ripped off

how exactly did you get your commision ?

did you get messaged ?

and did he make the price ?

[grave coyote]

I said the price because he said that's around what his budget is

[noble bough]

oof

you shouldnt have done it then, if I were you

cause that is way too low

[grave coyote]

I didn't know
It is my first time doing commission

[noble bough]

you have to imagine, that your customer is getting a one of a kind model

that no one else has

thats why prices can get so high

paying 1000 for a model is not uncommon, but many customers wouldnt probably know that

cause they dont know the time it takes to make one

[grave coyote]

Really
That's mind-blowing

[noble bough]

I would advise you to still do the commission, to atleast satisfy the customer and get some reputation maybe, but for the next commission, think of the pricing

[grave coyote]

Yeah, that's what I will do
Since I already agreed on the price

[noble bough]

it really isnt if you think about it. if I take 30-40 bucks an hours and need around 30 hours for a fully fleshed out model, that comes to around 900-1200 dollars

[grave coyote]

But the issue is most client's won't be ready to pay

[noble bough]

ready to pay ?

like all in one ?

[noble bough]

if the clients cant pay for what you are actually worth, they shouldnt even think about getting custom models

easy as that

you dont have to adjust to the customers budget

they have to

of course you could think : " if I lower my prices a lot, I would get more customers." , but in reality you would be wasting tons of hours of underpaid work

[grave coyote]

Thanks
I learnt a lot

[grave coyote]

Okay
Thanks a lot

[noble bough]

Im glad I could help you in several aspects today haha 😄 . its important to know your worth, even if you are still a beginner

if you keep at it, you can make some banger models in the future, I believe it

[grave coyote]

I really appreciate it man

[grave coyote]

Thanks

[noble bough]

you're welcome

[grave coyote]

Thank you do much
You can't understand what this means to me
I appreciate you

[noble bough]

well dont want another artist to get ripped off

[grave coyote]

Can I send you a friend request
Incase I do face a problem

[noble bough]

sure thing

[grave coyote]

Thanks bro

[hot sundial]

As this is not discord for comms, that would be best.

[noble bough]

roger 🫡

[grave coyote]

Sorry if we broke any rules😅

[hot sundial]

nah, it's not like looking kind of post so it's fine but just hope you don't get scammer client from those talk instead.

[noble bough]

huh

never mind

lets just end this discussion here x)

[grave coyote]

Discord still has the blocking and reporting feature

That sure works for them😊

[hot sundial]

one day....yeah

[noble bough]

still at sculpting the shapes 😮‍💨

[unique galleon]

shit that looks so good

[noble bough]

soon there

[pure apex]

Uh I'm trying to make accessories for my bf for his oc but I dunno where to start in blender... 😞

[hushed leaf]

donut tutorial! or some other "intro to blender" one

[void bay]

My second model ever made, the first one is an older/uglier version of this.

Made it today.

[noble bough]

Its nice. It certainly is cursed with that face, but I think thats weirdly fitting

[royal canyon]

1991 vibes

[void bay]

Furry SM64 base model by me

Textured like my main sona

Third model btw

-# unfortunately the app i use, the texture editor sucks ass

[noble bough]

what even is that program, if you dont mind me asking

[void bay]

A mobile app simply called 3D Modeling App

[eager mural]

Why does changing Brownian from zero to any number make my particles go crazy long? When i follow guides on youtube, no one seems to have this issue.

[hushed leaf]

whatever that is, it looks really cool 🙂

[unique galleon]

Are you able to see the blender version used in the tutorials? Have you checked if this issue occurs on their version too?

[eager mural]

I believe it could be a blender version issue. I might have to try installing an older version of blender to see if there is a difference

[noble bough]

i hate cloths

[swift jolt]

that looks amazing! but i imagine if i was to willingly model cloth that complicated i would also hate cloth forever HAHAHAH

[karmic echo]

Fur wip~

[faint bronze]

WIP I did today of ENA

[faint bronze]

Hi, just wondering if you plan on throwing this on your gumroad any time soon?

[azure rain]

Very nice start of a European style Street

[swift jolt]

Thanks! Started recreating the area around my hometowns plaza

[cursive rune]

anyone got any idea why trying to preview a models physics in play mode wont work

[swift jolt]

I used to have that issue for ages. Works now. No idea why it started working… sooooooo goodluck

[cursive rune]

lol thats disapointing

[azure rain]

Definitely excited to see more of it as it continues

[wild sequoia]

yeah it's all finished and I just have to make some marketing material for the gumroad page, but life has gotten in the way the past few weeks. I think at the latest it should be up on gumroad in two weeks but I'll see if I can get everything ready before this weekend

[noble bough]

todays study

[fair mason]

I just made the peakest shit ever

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343353409708757042/1361937354880716871/snootilous_-_1911834234446098613.gif

[faint bronze]

Oh that's something lmao

[jovial seal]

i dont know.

[faint bronze]

Protogen

[gaunt summit]

someone gonna eat ram wink wink

[thorn yarrow]

When running my models in unity, the texture dies that weird see through thing, how do i fix?

[hushed leaf]

might have to see it, but if you're posting in here you probably have it in blender, so make sure all the faces are oriented the right way. You might be seeing through the backsides.

[thorn yarrow]

I have a cannonball, but i see the inside of it, not the outside..

On no other software that happens

Idk whats going on with it in unity

[hushed leaf]

yep, probably faces are flipped inside-out

[jovial seal]

WHAT THE HELL WAS I SMOKING WITH THIS GOD AWFUL TOPOLOGY TwT

[noble bough]

monokuma

[sweet kraken]

wasnt sure where to ask but anyone knows how to reduce the radius to the sphere radius in particle system? ive played with alot of settings but no luck , thank you in advance!

[hushed leaf]

but which radius is that?

I'd guess you mean the emitter?
probably this is more of an #avatar-help thing too, it's not 3D modeling 🙂

[rapid spade]

It should be a little blacker, I guess it's because of the HDRI.

[unique galleon]

that is so cute!! I understand he's a big scary but he's adorable

Mythological creatures as avatars are just so darn cute smh

[rapid spade]

I don't know if it's scary, but I still find it adorable XD, although I finally managed to make it look darker.

[unique galleon]

looks great!

You make me want to share 💜 I've been doing some low-poly level design for the past few days!

[rapid spade]

I'm still finishing, I'm missing their weapons, some Khopesh

[unique galleon]

ooo that'll work really nice with that design

what do you consider the race? Is it a naga?

Egyptian Naga 🤔

[hushed leaf]

huh, first time I've ever seen this in Blender before: got an object with 7 UV maps, the first 3 are fine, but the last 4 the outline of the UV islands is in a different place than the actual islands, though I can select faces just fine. It seems to be just the visual display.
If I re-order, still the first 3 are fine, no matter which I put there.

oh it seems that for UVs 4+ the outline is UV3's

how strange

[wide forum]

I was thinking about how I could cull the vertixes here outside of the view to save on triangles, but when I delete them, it just creates a void. What should I do to merge the vertixes next to the selected ring together?

[hushed leaf]

You want to dissolve them, not delete them

(it's in that little 'x' popup)

[wide forum]

Hmm, but that creates this strange artifact where the loop gets closed. Why?

[hushed leaf]

I'd probably try dissolving the edge, not the vertices

[wide forum]

How do I select the edge?

[hushed leaf]

I think in vertex mode it's not understanding the geometry and tries to merge together in the center

[wide forum]

Sorry, new to Blender

[hushed leaf]

go into edge mode

hotkey is '2'

you're in vertex select mode now ('1')

if you prefer to poke buttons, they're at the upper left

[wide forum]

Thanks, that worked :)

[hushed leaf]

excellent

this is "edge loop dissolving", an extremely effective way of polygon reduction

[wide forum]

Indeed, just the tool I wanted

[hushed leaf]

this seems to have been a bug in Blender 4.4.0 - it's not present in 4.4.3.

[mint glade]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-doctor-who-lux-mr-ring-a-ding-take-a-guess-gif-8524264741062790898

[hot sundial]

?Tag scam

[split granite]

Hey ho 👋 I see you're looking for commissions.

You will probably receive DM's or friend requests from scammers now (or later) that will try to offer you their services. 😖

🚫 Absolutely DO NOT engage with those, regardless of how competent they might seem or their excuse to why they contact you.
This is unsafe practice used by scammers, and also breaks this Discord's rules. 👮

If you seek a creator, check out VRCTraders and follow their protocols strictly 🥺
(You will get DM from bot to verify your account upon join.)

🌠 It's extremely important to always DEEPLY investigate the account and social media of the person you plan to commission.
Is their social media linked in Discord? Is it legitimate? Are the references stolen? (Try to reverse image search posts to check.) 👀
The quality of fake profiles out there can be crazy good, be aware of that and NEVER engage with DM or friend requests that originate from the artist.

When in the slightest doubt, do not commission them and contact the moderators of the involved communities. 😱

[jagged briar]

Can someone help me figure out why my fluid simulation is just...
not working?
Images: Everything, Liquid settings and Bounding settings

every time i bake the liquid, it just does nothing after playing

without the cup model

is it cause it's parented to the camera or something?

[gaunt sonnet]

So I fused two meshes together to maintain symmetry, and now there's a hideous seam in Sculpt Mode. How can I go about fixing it?

[hushed leaf]

ooh I've not done that in sculpt mode, but if you go into mesh edit mode, select all those faces and do mesh -> normals -> reset vectors, that ought to handle it

[gaunt sonnet]

hmm! Ok I'll give it a go

[gaunt sonnet]

ah, sadly didn't seem to do anything, seam still there

[hushed leaf]

is there something weird about the join? is it actually a join?

you don't have one side with flipped faces or something?

[gaunt sonnet]

now that I think about it, I did duplicate one side and mirrored it, so what would happen in that scenario?

[hushed leaf]

possibly got flipped

you could use the mirror modifier, it does this merge cleanly

[gaunt sonnet]

where's that?

[hushed leaf]

https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/modeling/modifiers/generate/mirror.html

[tough plover]

did you mirror it by scaling it by -1 on the X axis?

[gaunt sonnet]

hmm I did not

[tough plover]

ok good

how did you go about mirroring it?

[hushed leaf]

you can check the face orientation, it's one of the options in "viewport overlays" at the top right

[gaunt sonnet]

I selected one side, duplicated it, then clicked Mirror under Mesh and went across the X-axis.

[tough plover]

ok, so it's possible the normals got flipped as well

[hushed leaf]

the modifier has a "clip" option which will merge the seam cleanly, I suggest that unless you have shape keys

[gaunt sonnet]

oh crap I see it. The duped side is red

[hushed leaf]

that's why that seam didn't seam cleanly then, y ep

[tough plover]

select everything in edit mode and do alt + N > Recalculate outside

might also need to do Reset Vectors after

[gaunt sonnet]

I'm kinda dumb, I can't find the mirror modifier 😭

[gaunt sonnet]

I'll try this too on my newer model, I'll use Kazins on an older one

[hushed leaf]

wrench icon in the properties box for a mesh object

[gaunt sonnet]

thank u

[hushed leaf]

where all modifiers live

[jagged briar]

nice

[jagged briar]

I've checked the Normal maps, they are correct (if that matters)
I've tried changing the parenting
I can't really figure it out

[wild sequoia]

I just published the avatar on gumroad and jinxxy 👍

[faint bronze]

:0

[noble bough]

Forgor to post this here. Working one a printable figure of matt from Epic battle fantasy

[gritty junco]

that’s looks super great! very official and high professional look! good job 👍🏻👍🏻

[wispy tide]

Cynder Hoodie for the Nardoragon.

[inland hull]

oooh nice!

[wispy tide]

Did i just make my first base model?

[noble bough]

where the arms tho

[swift jolt]

Then can Get some cool robo arms

[noble bough]

some rad mantis-blade arms

[hushed leaf]

hell yeah

[wispy tide]

might get ur wish.. hands are hard tho

[wispy tide]

My 1st base model, lets goo

[noble bough]

both look good, the arms as well 🙃

[wispy tide]

Very impressed with myself considering this is the result of my first time trying

[noble bough]

can you like show the wireframe

[wispy tide]

No

[noble bough]

sadge

[wispy tide]

Not that good lmao

[noble bough]

it cant be that bad

the textured shot looks pretty good, so it cant be a wreck

haha

[wispy tide]

Let's just say I've learnt 0 retropology this far.

[noble bough]

come on just show me, i can tell you what to improve. you dont have to be embarassed haha

[wispy tide]

When i regain access to pc I will I've re-posted that last second of having to go

[wispy tide]

[noble bough]

if you can go a bit closer, only show faces and dont select them (so that they are not orange)

cause I cant make anything of that screenshot rn x)

[noble bough]

so the main body is already decimated ?

[hushed leaf]

ooh that topo is going to be annoying to deal with weight painting

[noble bough]

agree

will make bends and everything a hell of a pain

[hushed leaf]

but that's ok, we have tools for that

the shape looks great

[noble bough]

and for a first model, its better than my first model ever xdd

[hushed leaf]

haha yeah I've still not done one, I keep failing to make faces. done a lot of props and clothing though

[noble bough]

wait

you are telling me you never made a char

I thought I saw character related stuff of yours, if I'm not mistaken. mhh

[hushed leaf]

nope!

[noble bough]

damn

that actually surprised me

[hushed leaf]

lots of edits, lots of props, some in-progress worlds

[noble bough]

well then get to it haha

[hushed leaf]

on it!

[noble bough]

looking seriously great !

is that gonna be a perma-nude dragon or are they gonna get some clothes tho haha

[noble bough]

one thing I can see is the clipping of the foot talons.

[wispy tide]

not sure, i'm havinging to re-rig the thing cause apparently i didn't add enough bones to vrchats liking..

[noble bough]

how are deformations looking ? can you pose them alright ?

[wispy tide]

yeah

[noble bough]

well if you dont want to burden yourself with manual retopo this time, you can probably let it slip for now i guess. but you should definitely try it with your next char

its kinda necessary to know how to do it

last thing. how many tris is the char right now

[noble bough]

oof

[wispy tide]

ikr

[noble bough]

doesnt it say tris count somewhere in blender or unity explicitly ?

ok nvm, they are exactly the same

yeah thats a bit too high to be honest, it should be around a quarter of that

especially if the char doesn't even have any accessories or clothes

to be honest, you will have to go for retopo I believe, cause vrchat wont be able to handle that I guess

[wispy tide]

know any good starting things for retro?

[noble bough]

starting things you mean like practice or where to start at your model ?

if you mean your model, then you should start with the parts that have the highest mesh density first, like the face

when looking at the face, you can clearly tell, that the horns are way too dense

when your entire head has around the density of the nose part, than its good to go

when you do retopo, its not only about reducing the mesh, but also making it possible to animate it properly . for reference here is how good topology could look like. notice how there are loops of faces around certain areas like mouth or eyes ? that way it can be deformed properly

[noble bough]

just ping me if you need more help with it, im here 😄

[atomic wigeon]

model for a friend

[wispy tide]

Having issues finding any good retropology plugins for blender thats not 50$

[wispy tide]

Im doing it!!

[noble bough]

good start, but let me give you some advice how to proceed:

• First, try to create the loops around certain landmarks like eyes, mouth, neck, etc., and then work your way towards a connected net. That way your mesh will most likely have the same density throughout.
• Second, try to make the retopo as close to your original model as possible, in terms of shape. From what I can tell from that picture is, that the nose part will look different, cause the peak of it is not captured by the retopo. Try to fix that if you can
• Third, separate your meshes into different parts. Currently you are connecting the tongue to the head (which can be ok), but that way you cant properly animate it in the future. Also please dont retopo over the eyeballs. Try to go around them and make the balls a separate mesh.
  Best of luck

Small Addendum to my first point : You should also start with relatively small loops around the other parts of the body, like arms, legs. tail. (small in terms of how many verts are in that loop). You should try to go with 8 or so and if needed add more by inserting loopcuts or using knife tool

[edgy finch]

I feel like I should retopologize but idk if it'd ruin the hair or not to do so

[noble bough]

you defo need to retopo

180k tris is way too much

[edgy finch]

oh okie doke!

[noble bough]

from what I can tell, the body itself looks pretty good. but the hair seems to be really dense. how many tris are the hair in total ?

[hushed leaf]

ah yes, definitely you want less

You might switch to studio shaded mode and enable wireframes so it's a bit easier to see, in x-ray mode it can be difficult if something is so dense

[noble bough]

simply going into edit mode without x-ray and not selecting any faces would also suffice I guess

[edgy finch]

I kinda just used the path technique to model it so I think maybe a lot?

[hushed leaf]

you should actually check

[noble bough]

yeah pls do

[edgy finch]

here's the hair

[noble bough]

is that really ALL the hair ?

[edgy finch]

Oh my fault, I should've specified. The hair on the head

[noble bough]

cause 38k out of 190k is weird, if its only so few. dont know where the other 150k would be in that body

[hushed leaf]

the face looks dense in that pic too, but I can't tell much detail

[noble bough]

can you please send a screenshot with good visibility ? would help a LOT

[noble bough]

mhhh

im not gonna comment on the legs or body, cause thats a differnt problem in itself

I guess the problem are the small bushes of hair all around

how much is one bush

[hushed leaf]

yeah - tail looks real dense too. And yeah a lot of the body, that topo needs work, it's not going to bend well when you start to work on weight paint, and the long verticals are kinda dense on the legs.

This looks like a great start though! The next part is definitely hard

[noble bough]

retopo is often times make or break i guess

[edgy finch]

okie doke! sorry the topo is all messed up, It's really hard to find furry avatar tutorials

[noble bough]

you dont need to specifically search for furry tutorials

[hushed leaf]

most of that it doesn't matter if it's furry or not, bodies are bodies

[noble bough]

other tutorials for 3d chars transfer almost 1 : 1 on other styles or chars

[hushed leaf]

yep

[noble bough]

in the end its all the same pipeline and workflow

[edgy finch]

true but I just usually search furry because of the muzzle and digitigrade legs

[hushed leaf]

yep, totally - but even legs still work like legs

[edgy finch]

very true

[noble bough]

ok here is where you could start with the fixing: look at the model from a small distance (not too far away tho, maybe screensize), and then look for parts that appear to you too dark or dense. hide everything else and look why it appears dense : too many loops? redundant mesh ? etc. . and then you should try to remove loops that are not needed

thats my starting point for you

you really just need to remove some loops to decrease the density most times

[edgy finch]

If I retop, should I make the hair and the body separate in the retopology or should I just make it one big thing?

[noble bough]

defo separate

[edgy finch]

ok cool

[noble bough]

it almost always better to have more independent meshes, cause you can work better with them. only in cases like whole body with attached limbs and so on, it should be one coherent mesh

For example if you have a char wearing a hoodie, you can simply remove and disconnect the hand and arm from the mainbody, cause you wont see it. but if the char is like naked, its better to connect all the parts

for obvious reasons xd

best of luck for your retopo tho. if you have problems, just write here 😄

[edgy finch]

okay cool! thank you so much for your guys' help!

[hushed leaf]

Definitely separate. Eyes too. And clothing parts of course. You can join when exporting to FBX.

[edgy finch]

should I retopo ALL of it or just the parts that're a lot of tris? I feel like maybe retopoing the body might be a bit tedious and unneccessary but I feel like if needed I still will

[azure rain]

honestly you would probably be fine with just a loop dissolving the heavy areas

[edgy finch]

or well

how do I fix JUST the legs? I know someone mentioned they were really messy

[azure rain]

yeah the legs are a bit of a mess with the bajillion Edge Loops only in the front

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH1o-vKxGXM

a way you could keep the number of edge Loops required for the head but not have it propagate all the way to the legs

[edgy finch]

Oh i ended up actually retopologizing all the way to the feet

Blender support cat

I just have to get the inside of the mouth which is

Pain

[hushed leaf]

hide parts you aren't working on

[edgy finch]

it's really hard because the mirror modifier and the base mesh are really messing me up\

[hushed leaf]

turn off the mirror?

[edgy finch]

I did just that and it is finished!

thank you so much

the body that is

I still very much need to retopo the hair

are the legs better?

[azure rain]

paws look like they might have been made a little too low poly but the rest looks fine?

[edgy finch]

tbh the paws are so frustrating so I ended up making them really low poly

like I rushed them bad boys

[azure rain]

like you can use the loop redirection I showed above to increase the geometry in the paw area without making the legs unnecessarily detailed

[edgy finch]

I almost wanna remake the whole model because of the paws

[azure rain]

been working on a opaque only tree to have an easier time rendering them on the quest

how it looks in unity

[edgy finch]

Oooooooo!

Should I remake the model I have now or no? I’m really struggling on the feet and they’re really ugly looking in the original model

[nimble solstice]

Hi, has anyone encountered ASCII models? In this format there is information about the skeleton. Found a 3d model of the character, there is also a model of obj format, but I do not want to make a skeleton. Did not find a way to import into Blender, dug through the forums and with the help of neural network tried to create a script for importing

[tough plover]

you can use this to convert it https://aps.autodesk.com/developer/overview/fbx-converter-archives

get this one

[nimble solstice]

Tried it, it didn't work

[tough plover]

didn't work in what way? I've used it successfully before

it's probably something you did wrong along the way

[nimble solstice]

Model unusual format that I found information on import format like ASCII FBX, ASCII OBJ, etc. This is just ASCII

[tough plover]

oh, I assumed it was an FBX file in ASCII format, not an actual .ascii

[edgy finch]

hello! I really want to make an avatar but idk if I should make a new model or just stick with the one I have

I really don't like the legs and hands

[hushed leaf]

you could start with that one and modify it

[edgy finch]

true but how would I modify it? I'm really struggling with hands and feet

[hushed leaf]

load it into blender, start modeling?

[edgy finch]

true but I mean like idk how to even fix it

[hushed leaf]

do you know how to use blender?

[edgy finch]

yeah

[hushed leaf]

do you know how you want the model to look?

[edgy finch]

yes

[hushed leaf]

sounds like a good place to start then

[edgy finch]

got this lower poly mesh from when I tried to make a new model

[noble bough]

your problem seems to be, that you use too many vertical loops. the feet are once again extremely dense for no reason

[noble bough]

try to simplify the shape as much as possible, if it doesnt look right at the start, its alright. you can add more loops later on

[noble bough]

I would also try to connect the legs with the body; yours seem to be separated

[edgy finch]

true but gosh it's so hard

hnng

[jovial seal]

How would yall rig this since the chestplates technically a hardbody?

are shoulders neccesary for a rig to work?

[devout orchid]

you may try making them tiny and not weightpainted. bone itself is mandatory

[jovial seal]

damnit.

[waxen ivy]

Im wondering if it might be better to paint hosiery over my model for optimization or just use some combination of shader effect like lil-toon or Poiyomi to shade/matcap a hosiery like material onto my model. Any thoughts from any painters?

[hushed leaf]

anisotropics!

A friend did a really nice texture that's almost like sheer hose, using a matcap with a gradient for a bit of color, and anisotropics for the shine.

[viscid birch]

Also if it has netting or you want close up thread patterns, you can use a little 128px texture and tile it across the fabric. Or detail normal map. And use a detail mask to separate it from other parts like the welt.

I've seen a lot of folks put repeating patterns like this in painted maps. And it wastes texture space. Also makes them want to crank the resolution up to make the tiny patterns look better.

[azure rain]

https://fixupx.com/BlizzyFoxo/status/1655354885926264834

Blizzy Winters (@BlizzyFoxo)

@poiyomi shaders have the ability to use a color mask for detail normals. I really wish more people would use this. You can use absolutely tiny maps and still have the detail you want. 10 times less VRAM usage for the normal map on this sweater INCLUDING the mask!

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https://vxtwitter.com/FaraVR/status/1612185972766130189

Fara \\ FWA (@FaraVR)

Showing the use of Detail Normals with RGBA Color Masking in @poiyomi . Still on my quest to reduce the use of 4K normal maps in VRC. This entire set is a single 2K normal but still has low frequency cloth detail with the use of DNs. DNs are all 256px

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[wraith obsidian]

woah the topologys crazy

[atomic wigeon]

once more i feul my obsession with digitigrade legs >:3

[waxen ivy]

@hushed leaf @viscid birch I’m going to send a screenshot of what I’m working with soon, I often get ignored so I’m super sorry I wasn’t checking my discord!

[waxen ivy]

@hushed leaf @viscid birch and anyone else who like to chime in, I really need the help! >.< I've been stuck on this for a very long time! - So my model is a standard zinfit, I manually retopologized my model from like 160k I think? To 69k, (First Pic) I'm shooting for medium performance as it has a loincloth and complicated hair lots of bones etc. So for (Second Pic) it goes up a lil over 10k polys obviously no good. But for (Pic 2 + Pic 3) It uses this lil texture, some sort of node system, I only a quarter understand it, using the Nylon V2 material from blender kit. It looks super super good though. --I went into substance painter and my brain locked up because no matter how I texture it it doesnt really look right, and im like "Oh right lighting" @hushed leaf You mentioned anisotropics, im really curious what the base texture was, what shader/matcap they decided to try, as soon as I hit enter on this post, im going to look into it, but id love to hear your thoughts on the process. Do I even texture my model, do I just use a matcap/mask with poiyomi, unsure.

[hushed leaf]

Please don't ping me for new questions I'm not already helping with.

[waxen ivy]

I thought you were helping me with this? :c

[hushed leaf]

oh - maybe I should read the second half first, sorry

re: anisotropics, it was just poiyomi, the matcap was a gradient, not an actual matcap. She created it all herself

I don't really have much more to suggest other than the Poiyomi docs and discord

The only time I personally ever use matcaps is for small metallic items, like jewelry

[waxen ivy]

Okies no worries! I was able to sort of create the effect with Ucupaint but it obviously doesnt translate over to Unity, or I think/pretty sure it wont by using fake lighting, I could just overthinking the whole process and need to play with poiyomi again or ping some of them in their discord? -Ive always only ever used poyomi for similar things when I was first starting out. Thanks for your insight, I didn't know that you were moving on from the question. >.<

[hushed leaf]

no not really "moving on", I just don't have anything further to add

I played with doing shine on hair with anisotropics, again used the poi discord for information on that, it's a bit of work to align the UV map to make it work well, but looks nice when done.

[viscid birch]

For poiyomi this fake lighting is "rim lighting".

Or you can get the same effect with a gradient matcap.

[waxen ivy]

So essentially I should stop overthinking it, use the standard skin texture, matcap it and play with the lighting? Can you adjust that fresnel effect with poiyomi on the hosiery material?

[fluid talon]

How to get my 3D skin model on VR chat
I created this skin on belender

[hushed leaf]

I'm not really sure what you mean by "matcap it"?

[hushed leaf]

what is a "skin" in this case?

[fluid talon]

I'm begginer

[hushed leaf]

and...?

[fluid talon]

How to input my model on VR chat :3

[hushed leaf]

is it rigged?

As in, it has an armature and you weight painted so the mesh moves when you rotate the bones?

[azure rain]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/creating-your-first-avatar/

[waxen ivy]

I have to play with matcaps and lighting in poiyomi, it seems like poiyomi can give me the effect that I need, from what you and Vavassor said. Im checking the POI discord now, i'm just wondering if I should do any painting on my physical skin texture or if I can do everything I need to have the desired effect with poiyomi alone.

[swift jolt]

Unity

[viscid birch]

I put together an example.

The texture from nylon v2 might just be an alpha map? But a black and white image can be used for lots of maps/masks. For fun I tried converting it into a normal map by using "create from grayscale" option in texture import.

[broken horizon]

new to humanoid riging just trying to rig this but it wont work and i dont know how

[hushed leaf]

#avatar-rigging too, but it might help if you describe what you did and probably show the armature

[noble bough]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/L4xvmK

crazy tutorial for stylized detailing

gotta recommend it

[edgy finch]

https://youtu.be/7iqyH4Xa3rA?si=8TrX0A3uPcspihtR
https://youtu.be/Sdrxv-uGsjc?si=28Mf9wsQoj1Pd68m
I've been using these as tuturoials and have been having some trouble q w q

[noble bough]

like mentioned, you dont necessarily need furry tutorials

if they are too difficult to understand or not good enough

[edgy finch]

true true, would you suggest any tutorials perhaps?

[edgy finch]

Also I lost the model so back to square one unfortunately

[steady zealot]

Low poly prop pack I'm working on (108 frames in this gif, around 400 props so far, entire thing is using two palette texture materials for opaque and transparency)

[edgy finch]

is this any better? I tried using a little less vertical cuts but I can definitely try to hold back

[hushed leaf]

are you going for very low poly?

[heavy sonnet]

This looks good so far! If you want a low poly model (like a retro art style) you can keep it just like this, or if you want a smoother look to it, try adding a subdivision surface modifier. Make sure it's added after the mirror modifier. You should only need the default of 1 subdivision for a game-ready model, and sometimes that can even be too much, so I recommend trying to optimize poly count both during the modeling process and after applying the subdivision surface modifier

[edgy finch]

no I'm not trying to, but everytime I post here it feels like I put too much vertical cuts into the body

[edgy finch]

I wanna make it in a similar style to this

[heavy sonnet]

I would also make use of edge and vertex crease. Vertex crease should be used sparingly — I typically use it for the ends of fur/fluff, but unless you need a single vertex to be sharp, you can usually just use edge crease. These also don't have to be pulled all the way sharp, and they help with reducing polygon count since you don't need as many support loops for the silhouette.

[heavy sonnet]

I think you're doing fine, just use a subdivision surface modifier like I said above.

[edgy finch]

oh ok!

[edgy finch]

how do I make the hands

[winter iron]

make a nub then give it fingers

[edgy finch]

hand hard :(

[edgy finch]

aghhhhhh I need help

[edgy finch]

I wanna sob

[carmine pagoda]

I wish you the best of luck Maverick. I’ve been working on a model on and off (mostly off) for about 6 months now. Keep at it you will get through it with enough effort.

[edgy finch]

I had to restart mine because I accidentally lost the model in a freak accident with the file

I feel stupid and nothing works

is there any way I can try and work on it like this instead or no? I wanna try it but it seems very hard https://youtu.be/RX_evtfpDbE?si=DFgrf4wwNn7lnD7I

[heavy sonnet]

Always make sure to check your autosave folder and your .blend1 file if you lose your original file/overwrite it

[edgy finch]

where

[heavy sonnet]

The .blend1 file should be in the same location as your .blend file, just change the file extention to .blend and change the name of the file so it doesn't overwrite the original

[edgy finch]

yeah then it should be gone

[heavy sonnet]

Your autosaves should be in file>recover>autosave

[edgy finch]

I accidentally deleted the entire folder because I was clearing apps

[heavy sonnet]

Check your autosaves then fs

That's in a different folder

[tough plover]

you could also just go to your recycle bin and restore the files

[edgy finch]

found it

[tough plover]

you should also probably organize your stuff better

[heavy sonnet]

Yeah that's true, as long as you didn't empty your recycle bin/trash it should still be in there

I believe that's true of any OS

[edgy finch]

ok so lemme explain what happened

I was uninstalling apps when one of them basiclly said "hey were trying to uninstall app but the files are in this folder" and basically I thought it would just delete the files with the app but it didn't, it just deleted the entire folder

but yeah you are right

I do need to organize better

[heavy sonnet]

In any case, I think your hand looks fine so far. Just take a face or two from the side of your hand and extrude it to start making the thumb

[tough plover]

the way I organize my stuff for 3D related projects is something like:
3D Work > [name of client] > [name of character/project] > [actual files]

for my stuff, I have myself as a "client"

[heavy sonnet]

It's not going to look like a hand at first, the idea with box modeling typically is that you're creating the topology and general shape first, then refine it into the shape you want

[edgy finch]

I did find it though grtefully enough

[tough plover]

that's good

[heavy sonnet]

It's kinda the inverse workflow of sculpting, where you just focus on the shapes, then retopo (just focus on topology)

If you want something in-between then the video you sent of the kiwi fox model is also a valid workflow. You can do that with both faces and verts, and that is kinda the same process as retopo but without the underlying sculpt, so you're just creating the shapes as you go

In that case it's best to have an outline for everything you're modeling so you get the shapes right. If you don't have a reference for what the shapes should look like from at least the front and the side, you can use the annotate tool to sketch them

[heavy sonnet]

you might not have looked up tutorials for VRChat rigging, but you do not need to create a full rig for avatars. If you're making this for personal use in Blender then you're fine, but VRChat just needs a Unity humanoid compatible armature, the rest of your rig won't transfer over (no drivers, only some constraints)

[hushed leaf]

There's a pic of the VRChat humanoid rig pinned in #avatar-rigging

[edgy finch]

Ooooooooooooooh ok

[edgy finch]

I followed a tutorial on hands and these look so good I might cry

I even added pawpads!!!

[edgy finch]

should I fix the feet? I was having so much trouble I gave up and made them blocks

[edgy finch]

is it fine to have your feet and hands as separate meshes or no

[tough plover]

you shouldn't have things as separate meshes in the final avatar, unless you intend on enabling/disabling them

[edgy finch]

how to I connect them without messing anything up?

Like keep struggling with the feet and I need help

No tutorials help me

[tough plover]

how does it look at the seam?

[edgy finch]

I don't know what you mean but I am assuming you mean at the end of where I put it

it's different topology so idk how I'd be able to join it together

and then what do I do about the hair

[hushed leaf]

wow this actually looks great for low-poly, I like it

[edgy finch]

thank you! this is like my first attempt at something like this

[hushed leaf]

to join it you could just make them overlap then use mesh -> intersect (knife) to cut edges and then retopo to make it nice

[edgy finch]

I already retopo'd

I don't wanna retopo again

I remade the hands because they were ugly

I'm sorry I just really don't wanna do that again

[tough plover]

you probably want to delete these faces, then as long as the two openings have the same amount of edges, you can select both open loops and do Bridge Edge Loops to connect them

[edgy finch]

ah ok cool

how do I do that?

[tough plover]

alt + click an edge to select a loop. shift + alt + click to select more loops. then, ctrl + E > Bridge Edge Loops

[hushed leaf]

yep, or make edge loops - but that might be awkward in this case if they don't line up well. Try them all!

[edgy finch]

yeah It won't let me use the two edge loops

[tough plover]

are you selecting the full loops, or just one edge on each side?

[tough plover]

you missed the first step of what I said

[tough plover]

.

[edgy finch]

it won't work

[hushed leaf]

you can certainly bridge each face manually - select two edges, hit f to join them with a face.

you have like 10 there, it'll be fast.

[edgy finch]

did it!!!

yippee

[edgy finch]

what about the hair ?

[tough plover]

again, if you don't plan on disabling it, keep it merged

you can have it be a separate material if you want, it'll make it easier to do effects like sheen