3d-modeling

[pulsar pelican]

Current model project, been working on this for a few weeks now haha

(All made from scratch btw!)

I know Halloween is long over but the amount of bones this model has is pretty darn spooky

I've gotten pretty good with physbones though so I have faith I can make the physics work :)

[devout timber]

hello yall! my first timeEVER making anything custom in blender and i may have girlbssed too close to the sun. i have gotten to uv unwrapping and i just. it does not make sense to me.. i get you put seams to "section off" places you want to be their won section, but its so confusiong !! could anyone help me out, possibly doodle on where seams should go? tysm to anyone who nhelps !!!

[glad steeple]

It helps to think of everything as a garment, when in doubt just imagine how a seamstress would do a tshirt, jeans, jacket. Look at your real clothes and see where seams are, usually they are in places that are less important/hidden

Eventually when you have more of a grasp of unwrapping you give yourself more control where they go and go away from that rule, but its a good place to start.

[young bone]

anyone got a template for which mouth movements are meant for which letters? i cant think what sounds match with what letter

for humanoids

[spiral sigil]

part one of a comm I'm doin, luke wicker

[devout timber]

thank you so much !!!

[glad steeple]

No problem!

[quaint jasper]

A simple way to try an automated way is to use the "select sharp edges" function in blender and to then turn those into seams

[devout timber]

thank you!!!!

[spring onyx]

If I wanted to make pants for my avatar, what I've done is copy the topology of the base and duplicated it, my avatar has knees should I delete the knees and just make it straight?

[quaint jasper]

If you don't want the leg mesh anymore then yeah you can delete it entirely

[ember salmon]

hey, is ArmorPaint a good alternative to Substance Painter?

[glad bronze]

You can definitely make it work. It doesn't have as many resources as substance but with enough skill you can get similar results. Honestly, any program will work as long as it has the ability to paint, mask, and bake. With niche exceptions of course.

[devout timber]

anyone know how to merge objects inside meshes >-< example above !! will i have to merg erthe vertices and delete the extras or .. ty for any help !!

[south saddle]

to merge Vertices got to {Edit mode} at the top {mesh/Clean UP/Merge by Distance} If you can try Pressing (L) Key that will Select all connected mesh and from that you can pick remove (Del) or Separate mesh (P)

[devout timber]

thank you so much!!!!

[glad bronze]

There is also a hotkey for this (m). It brings up other merging options that are helpful as well.

[teal token]

does any1 else have the issue of reimporting not working after the migration to 2022?

[simple falcon]

Actually making an avi with assets, how can I put items from an armature to my main armature (that I will put on Unity next) ?

[quaint jasper]

Shift drag to it

Or change its parent manually

[jovial seal]

any tips for modelling organic hands ive only ever done armor / furries

so like

my first actual attempt

[simple falcon]

pretty cyber parts after 4 hours of work

[quaint jasper]

Smooth it a lot, and use a visual reference to get the main proportions and shapes

[jovial seal]

ye i did the referance and i smoothed it as much as i could with my skill lmao i think im good to start texturing and Normal mapping now

[quaint jasper]

What kind of reference?

[jovial seal]

Just stock images I also didn't follow a realistic human hand entirely as I want it to look a little archaic also it looked really weird without an exaggerated slope ig just fix that with texturing I suppose? (The emptiness)

[swift jolt]

under the blue wrench theres an armature modifier. change that to use main armature

[simple falcon]

Yeah it's my first try in a full body part customization. Imma try that because it sucks on Unity.

[swift jolt]

yes personaly its a lil easier on blender. but both are hard to start out with

unity is allways a pain. while blender is fun when you get over the "learning curb"

[simple falcon]

I'm trying to do a goth girl/metalhead avi with fully cyberpunks augment. Because I like punk rock and science fi

I'm trying to do an avi that reflect my personnality

[swift jolt]

👍

you can allways start with one aspect and slowly update it lol. make a goth/metalhead and slowly add cybernetic augments to it.

thats kinda what i did with my first avatar lol

[simple falcon]

The learning curb is a pain in the ass. Even importing asset that works with my base (PandaBase) is hard for me

The rig is the hardest part. I don't understand how it works

With weight paint and stuff

(it always broke when trying the avi in game)

[dreamy moon]

could i get some help with an issue? ive been trying to import a pmx model but when it comes through all it shows is this

[wise onyx]

so uhhh. This is my first time modelling a character... uhhhhh i'd say it's going very well

this is what happens when i upload to mixamo

this is the actual model

do i need to add the head yet to test it or what's going on? Why is it half dark grey and why are the shadows broken

is there something going on with the normals?

i don't understand what's going on

[azure rain]

giving the shadow it looks like your normals are not pointing in the right direction?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4yDKp2MtlI

[wise onyx]

yup that was indeed the issue, i didn't know about that recalculate normals thing

thank you very much

[azure rain]

glad to be of help

[devout timber]

RAHH omg im so happy with how this is coming out.. my first ever blender creations !!! [ clothing bits ] im so happy

[wise onyx]

me again, i made na ear as a separate object, how can i merge it back on the original body? :/

[spiral sigil]

leafeon edit using the fairy fox base and baller fox hair, clothings made by myself other than the thighhigh

[quaint jasper]

Ctrl + J

You need to shift click the other mesh though

[wise onyx]

thanks, i ended up using boolean union though

[raven sparrow]

anyone else unable to import FBX's to blender?

I keep getting this error:

Python: Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1078, in _handle_fromlist
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 241, in _call_with_frames_removed
  File "C:\Program Files\Blender Foundation\Blender 4.0\4.0\scripts\addons\io_scene_fbx\import_fbx.py", line 18, in <module>
    from bpy.app.translations import pgettext_tip as tip_
  File "shibokensupport/signature/loader.py", line 61, in feature_imported
  File "shibokensupport/feature.py", line 135, in feature_imported
AttributeError: 'bpy.app._translations_type' object has no attribute '__name__'. Did you mean: '__ne__'?

No matter what version of blender I use

[quaint jasper]

Where does the fbx file come from?

[raven sparrow]

CGTrader

but I tried several FBX's

[quaint jasper]

Have you tried Autodesk's fbx converter software?

Might have been exported from Maya and won't be compatible with Blender's binary fbx import

[raven sparrow]

I'll give that shot

when I look it up it takes me to a page that never loads on autodesk's website

nevermind I found it

had to find their archive page

yeah that didn't work @quaint jasper

it still throws the same error, even after converting it to a binary FBX

[quaint jasper]

Does it import in Unity?

[raven sparrow]

mhm

[quaint jasper]

I wonder if you could then use the fbx exporter there

[raven sparrow]

tried already

[quaint jasper]

[raven sparrow]

blender imports it but it has no data

I'm gonna try converting it to an OBJ

[quaint jasper]

If none of that works, seems like one of those situation where reaching out to the asset creator might be necessary

[raven sparrow]

well that worked

converting it to OBJ works

I think the FBX importer is just broken in Blender

idk how to fix it

[crude heron]

hey so I'm working on weightpainting an outfit in Blender onto my avatar and there's some polys that I can't seem to reach because they're like, the inner wrinkles of the sleeve and cuff

is there a way i can ensure i've covered the inside of the sleeve?

[hushed leaf]

you can tab back to edit mode and hide faces, they'll still be hid in weight-paint mode

or try turning off "front faces only" to paint through to the next ones

[crude heron]

how do you hide faces?

[hushed leaf]

select them, 'h' to hide

[crude heron]

oh cool thank you

[bronze pawn]

Are blendshapes referenced by name or index in unity?
I want to clean up and re-order some blendshapes on my model but I dont want to break any existing animations etc

[hushed leaf]

Yes 🙂

in most cases where you use them, they're by name, but in a few, by index - the one I can think of is the ones you pick for eye movements

[bronze pawn]

oh hmm

[hushed leaf]

animations ought to be fine though

[bronze pawn]

yeah I guess I can fix whatever else breaks as long as I dont have to redo like 100 animations lol

[hushed leaf]

just remember to always check the eye look area if you did any re-ordering and you should be fine

note: my info is from Unity 2019 and the previous SDK, I haven't tried this on the new stuff yet.

but given that this one cases is in VRChat software rather than Unity, and I didn't see any note in the changelog, I bet it's exactly the same 🙂

[bronze pawn]

ahh alright

thanks! ^^

[barren meadow]

Is there any easy way to create delta shapes to counter bone transforms' affects on shapekeys?

I have a solution that's not ideal, but I'd prefer to make delta shapekeys instead. Just these particular delta shapes would be incredibly painful to manually make.

The usecase is I created a shapekey that's using vertices that are weighted to a bone, I later decided I wanted to move that bone to follow the new position of the vertices that have moved. Current solution is adding an addition set of bones at the new position with identical weights to the original bones and then swapping physbone scripts depending on the mesh state.

I obviously needed to adjust the scripts to have a stronger affect on the mesh.

[bronze pawn]

what does vrc use to determine the pose shown in the little 3d preview of your avatar?

[shell edge]

Does anyone know where I would find people for commissions 😅

[valid needle]

usually people here will send you to the vrctraders discord group here https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/407970838294560769

but you can aslo find commissions on Ko-Fi for some artists just depedns

[shell edge]

Alright thank you!

[ocean salmon]

https://youtube.com/shorts/QUOGnETxNfY?si=Oq19XNUl__Ol8k9A

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZiMWVfHXGFk?si=-kHLjKC2xw-gxN7D

[crude heron]

can someone do a TL;DR for me about what this means?

like what will this affect?

[thin shadow]

tldr : lower number = more fps

[crude heron]

would this affect my ability to like

change clothes or toggle them

like i'm still mucking around with the texture of my shirt because i'm undecided what to make it look like

[thin shadow]

yes

[crude heron]

also the shirt has a transparency texture that's supposed to go with it

[thin shadow]

you can still have toggles with one material, using the bone shrinking method

[crude heron]

what is that?

[thin shadow]

when cloth is on, shrink the affected armature bones to 0

[crude heron]

huh?

but what if they're on the same bones?

[azure sluice]

Im remaking this old one from a year ago

[lusty venture]

i'm looking for a 3d modeller to join my team, i need minimum experience of a year of blender or a sufficent protfolio. pm for more info

this is a paid position btw. 29/hr. no benefits because im not an actual company

[carmine grove]

vrc traders 😔

[lusty venture]

wdym

like im looking for an actual employee \

[carmine grove]

#community-servers-old message

find an actual employee here

[lusty venture]

ah ok

true true

ty

[naive bolt]

Making your oc come alive is an amazing feeling xD

I finished the modeling, texturing, and I just have to fix up some rigging. Then comes the unity setup hehe

[ocean salmon]

I made a Klaymen model 🙂 https://youtube.com/shorts/m6hAj05hYT4?si=PGTArxHnCeVhqDWk

[swift jolt]

YOOOO KNAYMEN LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO!!!!! This is the 2nd claymen avatar iv ever seen. First one is from like 2017 lol

Was gonna make a neverhood map befor but i gave up cause its a big place

[ocean salmon]

https://youtu.be/Y-Tu74bmEII And that's what I'm working on right now.

[wise onyx]

Hi, does anybody know why i can't see the top right menu with the display options in the uv editing tab?

[quaint jasper]

Which blender version are you on?

[strange lotus]

How on earth do I edit an FBX in blender and apply it to an avatar without utterly messing up the rigging?

All I did was delete some useless geometry

But every time I edit anything in blender it's like I need to rebuild the avatar in unity from scratch

[wise onyx]

3.6.4 but I also tried 4.0.2... also, it works on models/files made by other people... Except mine

[hushed leaf]

don't unpack your model in Unity, export from Blender with the same settings, overwriting the .fbx file

[strange lotus]

What do you mean?

Ah

Nevermind, I understand. Is that the only way? That's working destructively

[hushed leaf]

er, not sure what you mean?

if you don't want to overwrite you can make a backup of the original file

[strange lotus]

That implies there's no way to back up the model

[hushed leaf]

it's just a file...

[strange lotus]

If I had to use that backup, I'd have to rebuild the whole avi

Wouldn't I?

[hushed leaf]

you should be able to just copy the backup back over the in-use .fbx

[prime prairie]

https://fixupx.com/sawyerdotwolf/status/1736298129920860660?s=46&t=e8JeBYAZw-JTyuygxm4vsg

[azure hull]

Can anyone help me out? I've been trying to get into VRC Traders but I got locked out the other day and have been meaning to get back in there, I was trying to join initially and the altdentifier kept timing me out :/

Never mind fixed it!

[prime prairie]

https://fixupx.com/sawyerdotwolf/status/1736782266008047702?s=46&t=e8JeBYAZw-JTyuygxm4vsg

[valid needle]

yeah those are fun

[spring onyx]

I was told Ngons should be avoided but I was wondering does that apply only to things that will be moved and deformed?

[valid needle]

Ngons usually get deleted upon import to unity

[spring onyx]

So what does that mean? is it a bad thing?

[valid needle]

It will leave holes all in the mesh

[devout orchid]

@spring onyx anything is tris for gpu. it wont leave holes but it might have ugly shading since you dont control how it gets to split into triangles and get weird interpolation for normals. so if youre not subdividing, you can just triangulate ngons. if youre subdividing, you want quads only.

[spring onyx]

This is an ngon right? Doesn't seem to cause any holes, I didn't subdivide or anything I'm suprised

[devout orchid]

hows it an n gon

[spring onyx]

Isn't an ngon more than 5 verticies touching?

or am I misunderstanding

[devout orchid]

no its polygon with 5+ verticies

[spring onyx]

Ohhhh

Shit my bad sorry

[prime prairie]

Think of it what computer do is use triangles. So quads just get split in half. With ngons depending on how they're supported they'll either break or the triangles are random.

The other thing is animation tends to work best with quads and smoothing tends to work best with quads.

[slender bobcat]

Can VRChat use corrective blendshape drivers?

[pseudo knoll]

i just did some N-gon removal on my avatar and now no polys are being discarded on import :D

I've hit exactly 70k polys now no issues ^^

[swift jolt]

yooo thats fucking awsome! iv seen your videos on that project befor! looks stunning, you planning on putting it in vrchat? cause that would be wonderfull

and awsome

[hushed leaf]

one way I've seen is to use dynamics (contact senders/receivers) to drive them

[orchid phoenix]

that's a pole

[ocean salmon]

Thank you! I think I’ll add it to VRChat as soon as I make the main model, then I’ll need to optimize it for VRChat.

[swift jolt]

That looks awsome

[slender bobcat]

Which of the plugins can be used?

[hushed leaf]

Plug-ins ?

[slender bobcat]

Uhm, addon? package?

[hushed leaf]

No, for what?

[slender bobcat]

For the thing you've said above?

[hushed leaf]

No, you do that in unity with the vrchat sdk features

[slender bobcat]

What

Ohh I'll go check it out, thx

[hexed relic]

I already asked my question on avatar help and don't want to cross post.

What the general concerns for someone making 3D content for VR chat?

[devout orchid]

1. meshes x materials 2. polygons. There were blendshapes but they should be fast af in 2022 so having your whole model as one mesh is fine

ofc careful with shaders, theyre not all the same

[crude heron]

Is there any reason why my model's textures come out looking like this in Blender?

[edgy shore]

I'm doing a base swap for an avi, but when I combine the head with the body in blender (merge the meshes) the texture in Unity ends up being gross looking around the lips and nose and I don't know why.

Before and after merge

[devout orchid]

on model import settings blendshape normals -> import

[edgy shore]

blendshape normals was on import, but then I saw the legacy blendshape normals tickbox and checked it and that fixed it! Thanks for getting me there!

[leaden summit]

Do any furry modelers have pointers on like, how to properly model fluff that's meant to bounce? I see tutorials on hair but aren't quite sure how to reverse-engineer that for "fur fluff" and not "MMD-style hair"
(Btw pls ping if reply since I might not see it otherwise)

[swift jolt]

Just short hair that has a thicker base than end point. Like a slanted pyramid ya know.

[leaden summit]

Extruded directly off the model or should I go the hair route with a seperate mesh? (Now that I think about it this might also be a better question for #avatar-rigging if it needs bones? but I want to cover my bases before I have to end up re-modeling stuff djxnsknzzj)

[swift jolt]

i would personaly go seperate mesh but both work i guese

[mental hazel]

is there a way i can rotate these bones so that they local rotate more like an actual arm

[devout orchid]

@mental hazel bone roll

[fossil sleet]

hey I'm trying to create an avatar for vrchat from blender but I'm having issues with sculpting the avatar/ it wont come out straight and it just has bumps and indents in it.

any tips

[fresh matrix]

How do I set it so it doesn't decimate the skirt as harshly as the rest of the model? I think it was originally its own mesh

[kind scaffold]

let me open my blender

I believe the "Set Copy Only" option allows you to mark an asset as a copy only (non baked). But to do so, you would need to split your mesh in seperate meshes. You can do that in Cats with the "Seperate by Loose Parts"

[fresh matrix]

Well the original model had everything separated into its own mesh. Is there a way to utilize that?

[kind scaffold]

sure, you'll bake everything again after right ?

[fresh matrix]

Yes!

[kind scaffold]

so it should work yes

[fresh matrix]

Oh. I forgot about this

It does that when I try fixing the original model

[fresh matrix]

Where's the "Set Copy Only" option?

[fresh matrix]

Nvm, I found it 🙂

[fresh matrix]

Is there a way to use CATS to fix the armature but not combine the meshes?

[kind scaffold]

next to the fix button, you have a list of option, one is "join meshes", you can uncheck it

[fresh matrix]

@kind scaffold It does this to the texture when I do the "Just copy" thing

[kind scaffold]

I'm tired. What is the difference?

[fresh matrix]

The one on the right doesn't have a texture. Just grey

[kind scaffold]

What is grey?

Because the avi does have texture on the right...

[fresh matrix]

The skirt. The skirt origianally had a design on it but it changes to just grey on the baked avatar (on the right)

[kind scaffold]

i see it now

maybe check your material, maybe it uses a blender only type of shader that the plugin cannot bake

[fresh matrix]

Why do these black lines appear in Unity but are not present in Blender?

[kind scaffold]

maybe your shader have an outline parameter or something

we would need to see what shader and settings you have

[fresh matrix]

Would it help if I uploaded the .blend file and the associated assets?

[kind scaffold]

not really, as the issue is more on unity

but as it's more about baking textures, i won't be the best to respond. Sorry

[fresh matrix]

I’m using the default Unity material. I can screenshot the material in about an hour if that would help

[fresh matrix]

@kind scaffold

[kind scaffold]

Lower the occlusion value I guess

Also I'll be off for today. Good luck

[slender bobcat]

How do you guys deal with clothes which bottom is quite low and covers almost 1/2 of the legs

[quaint jasper]

Any image would help understand what you mean

[slender bobcat]

Something like this

[solar fossil]

looks like the unity one has no transparency, set your shader from opaque to cutout or transparent

[quaint jasper]

I assume you mean for the in-between the legs part and the deformation of weight paint ? There usually a few more bones around like a skirt, and it allows for the weight paint to blend across multiple bones, which makes the deformation a lot less sharp

[fresh matrix]

With cutout it looks exactly the same, but with transparency, it looks like this

[slender bobcat]

Yes, okay and thx

Using constraints or just simply phys bones?

[dusty heron]

Yeah transparency tends to render kinda weirdly and wouldn’t be used in a situation like this

[quaint jasper]

Physbones with contacts on the leg yeah

[azure sluice]

1st image is the original model I made from 2 years ago, The second is the one is the remake I made in January of 2023, and this is the (hopefully) final version I am still working on.

[uncut scarab]

help?

[quaint jasper]

Have you tried the other normals modes ?

[uncut scarab]

i tried all of them 😦 but i dont think i even need legacy normals checked so i guess i solved part of it

this fixed it

legacy normals unchecked too

[hushed leaf]

Yeah in most cases use Import

[vital condor]

does anyone know how to fix this?

[empty fox]

Means nothing, that is just saying that there is an error and everything following that is what went wrong (code wise)

Describe what addon you are using and what blender version you are using

[vital condor]

:/ the model i'm looking at looks like a bunch of small little boxs in the shape of the model

all i did was install CATS like a youtube vid told me to

[empty fox]

If you are using the latest Blender then there are many addons that don't work yet.

[empty fox]

And you probably installed the "latest" version which is really out of date and only works on up to Blender 2.93.

Even the dev version only supports up to 3.6.

[empty fox]

Screenshot?

[vital condor]

man the one time i wanna use blender for once lmao

i already closed everything out 😭 i'm currently trying to remove everything blender related off my pc

[vital condor]

which version would you recommend?

also i re downloaded everything and it's still messed up here's a screenshot of what i'm looking at

[hushed leaf]

you'll need to explain what's wrong here

[empty fox]

Blender 3.5,

Could go for 3.6 but you have to make sure you get a minor version after 3.6.x, so 3.6.1 or later.

[loud pivot]

https://vxtwitter.com/TheM8Mobile/status/1741916120095797428

Got this little goober done for New Years! Have him up for free on my gumroad, hope you guys enjoy 🙂

[cobalt tiger]

Improving on heads! Just gotta retopo ;w;

[loud pivot]

Looks really good! I struggle with faces usually and this has that sort of final fantasy style to it

[vital condor]

anyone know how to fix this? I tried file -> external data -> find missing files but it's not doing anything. I'm new to blender this is a headache 🤕

[quaint jasper]

If that method doesn't work, then putting the blend file at the same location as the textures could be another solution, if that still doesn't work, then manually assigning the textures to the nodes would be necessary

[vital condor]

how would I do this? I just started using blender so I got no idea what I'm doing.

[quaint jasper]

https://youtu.be/P428zqxl7SI

[vital condor]

i don't have material properties 😭

[quaint jasper]

Screenshot?

[vital condor]

unless it's the last one?

texture properties?

[quaint jasper]

The whole screen would have been better

[vital condor]

my fault 1 sec

[quaint jasper]

Select the mesh first

[vital condor]

where's that 😭

sorry i'm stupid

ohhh

nvm

i'm dumb ignore me 😭

okay so when i click image texture it doesn't show open anywhere

Idk what to do 😭

okay so i figured it out but all of my files look like this so idk what is what 😭

[quaint jasper]

You might have to convert them to png or tga

[vital condor]

this is so stressful 😭

[vital condor]

i've gotten so much further now i'm stuck on eye tracking i can't find the damn eye bones 😭

[jovial seal]

any idea why some people do this to there blend files?

like

why is the armature like that

i cant edit it

[empty fox]

Should just be a visual difference, selecting the armature you can change it in one of the bone specific menus on the right.

[empty fox]

Wdym?
Should still be editable.

[jovial seal]

yeh i figured it out its just like a normal object i never work with the ways other people setup their armatures lmao

the the thing was just locked and the visuals were set to stick

[flat gull]

Alright, so, heads up, I am VERY new to this, but I got to the point where you smooth-shade the beginning of a model and the legs are being goofy

This is the back of the legs, I've been following Rainhet Chaneru 3D's blender tutorial and this is the first time I've run into an issue (cause it's my own design and her video is working on a chibi)

[flat gull]

Nvm I figured it out, sorry

[vital condor]

so i got this far i'm stuck on figuring out how to make her blink idk what i'm doing

[reef mason]

What was it??

[flat gull]

Some of the lil vertices and edges overlapped in a funky way that made them 'wrinkle'

Just went through, dissolved edges and re-stitched the lil web of lines n such until it was smooth

[cobalt tiger]

Finished texturing and rigging head

[north lantern]

working on a female base mesh

[north lantern]

never really done clothes like this before, hoping it goes well

[waxen flicker]

tried making a surcoat/chainmail outfit for my avatar. is there a way to merge everything and join overlapping faces together? i'm not sure how i should deal with unnecessary geometry.

[azure sluice]

Working on a completely new concept to me

[worthy lynx]

join everything and remesh it afterward?

like theres some addons but almost everything require by hand rework afterward

[mossy topaz]

Question, is it it okay to have 1 or 2 extra bones for my spine to have better deformation ingame? Or Does VRC Joint structure must follow a recipe? for a human skeleton?

Like if someone can provide me a base skeleton layout and or a more advance detail skeleton hierarchy

[devout orchid]

@mossy topaz #avatar-rigging message thats all the bones unity/vrc ik would take care of. more bones can be done using constraints to these, pc only.

[quaint jasper]

You can separate portions through hard edges and delete the faces inside of the coat (unseen ones)

[viscid scaffold]

ive created a monstrosity.. Enabling read write fixes it but dear god that is so many polygons

[acoustic cave]

Hey guys 😂 got any good sources to start? I want to make a human bunny hybrid for my girlfriend to be herself in vrchat but I haven't used any modeling software since Google SketchUp back in middle school, Adobe after effects 2010 in 2014 in highschool for a class and hammer engine when I was basically just trying to make my own map for a source engine game but didn't have the motivation to go back to it due to my love for Warframe lol 😅 I basically need something to get into 3d modeling for dummies who knows basically nothing about modeling

Also I feel that making meshes would require doing everything by hand which I got a huion tablet for doing art on my spare time so it's not like I don't have the PC or the tools needed I just need the education to make something awesome 😎

[hushed leaf]

The Donut Tutorial!

[devout orchid]

withour read-wirite it just assumes the worst, and makes it highest possible int32 number.

[viscid scaffold]

yea and there it just decided to make it a good 21 billion polys

[devout orchid]

which is the highest int32 number

[acoustic cave]

Doughnut tutorial?

[hushed leaf]

You could do a web search for it, it'll come up 🙂

(note my spelling though)

[acoustic cave]

So the doughnut tutorial gives me a basic of textures and shapes in blender?

[hushed leaf]

(correct or not)

It's a comprehensive intro to blender, yep

[acoustic cave]

Okay thanks kazin, what other softwares should I look into for textures?

[hushed leaf]

any painting program, maybe substance painter, really depends on what you're doing

[acoustic cave]

Thanks kazin I'm trying to get to the point where I can make my girlfriends oc for her in vrchat and get the skills to make my own as a hobby lol 😅 her oc as an example

[hushed leaf]

I like the shading on that

[acoustic cave]

It's not my art it's commissioned specifically for my girlfriend from an artist by the name of xeal

[north lantern]

Working off the probuilder mesh in blender

trying to make a homeworld for myself

[modest rose]

so i downloaded a free guitar model from cgtraders that iw as going to decimate and retexture but i can't seem to edit it in blender - no matter what i select it will only stay in object mode not edit mode

not sure why the texture isn't loading either

[north lantern]

The guitar is a collection

probably is in another one of the scenes

[north lantern]

click the button with the cone

and see if a model scene is available

[modest rose]

ah-ha! thank you

[hushed leaf]

135k tris is fine for a single curtain, right? I probably need to do this differently 🙂

[devout orchid]

@hushed leaf if your world called "four curtains", its fine.

[hushed leaf]

haha

[azure rain]

that's like the entire budget for a world

[hushed leaf]

the world is 30k at the moment... without that curtain 🙂

[autumn gust]

what how?

Unless you are use super large a super large cube to optimize triangles as best you can.

[hushed leaf]

haha yeah, just cranked up the quality and subdivisions to make it look good. Now I have to figure out how to do it with fewer.

[hushed leaf]

Well it looks fine at 33k, so this seems to be a valid method of doing this 🙂

and at 8730, hooray

[devout orchid]

rmb->shade smooth.

[hushed leaf]

yeah already did that, that's a big part of why it still looks good 🙂

[hushed leaf]

Yeah this was before I did any real optimization, it was 02:30 and I'd just got the cloth simulation to work how I wanted. It was mostly a joke - no way was I going to leave it that way 🙂

[warm elbow]

Worked on a model just to not being able to use it yet it still needs some work as well

[quaint moss]

anyone have fun uv-mapping tutorials they like? i've found a few but figure i'll ask to see if yall have some fun resources because i am procrastinating 💅

[warm elbow]

Before I started making vrchat models I use to make MMD models. This is from 2022 when I was obsessed with minecraft

[jovial seal]

hey i have a model thats exploding / imploding after clearing its parent in blender or tying it to a new one

whats the fix as i have forgor

nvm i remembered

nvm its still imploding

[cedar shuttle]

i need help im trying to create an optimized version of an avatar i took it into blender i decimated it and when i try to swap out the meshes with the new ones this happens

did i miss an export option or something?

[quaint jasper]

Was it previously affected by a shapeykey or a specific bone for toggles?

[uneven dock]

I'm working on my first public vrc world, everything made from scratch, no bs with premade stuff from web, 4th day of work. Still a lot of work to do

Bigger preview after opening it on browser

[digital cargo]

pipe boom

[dull crater]

WIP
Thanks to the mighty power of the Dyntopo tool, I have actually managed to model in a face, fingers, and toes. Still far from done but still happy with how far it's gone

[sacred nexus]

Where do you get your textures for the walls and stuff?

[digital cargo]

idiot sandwich

[gloomy moat]

I want to look into creating a splat effect for a slime avatar. I'm using transparrency and all that for the avatar so it looks like a humanoid slime, but I want to create an AFK pose where the whole body turns liquid and splashes into a puddle.
I doubt there's anything that already exists I can just drag and drop, so I thought I'd turn to blender and look into it.
The avatar will have a liquid-y shader so details won't be visible and doubt a slightly bumpy mesh would be noticable, so I was considering turning a softbody simulation into a blendshape?
Any better suggestions?

[valid needle]

https://booth.pm/en/items/3485256

you could buy and check this out

[gloomy moat]

Oh that's almost perfect!

[gloomy moat]

Much appreciated

[valid needle]

yup

[gaunt flame]

https://youtu.be/KL4b4APLIv4?si=wWQ5XHJV7QYXTH_9

[daring sparrow]

Anyone know where i can commision someone to rig a model and how much something like that would cost?

[valid needle]

Everyone in this server will link you to VrcTraders here https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/407970838294560769

but in my opinion I would just learn

[solar fossil]

Heh, ill do it

[jovial seal]

yo anyone got any idea why my normal map just kinda did this when i tried to bake it

[patent dove]

Watch out for scammers dude

[jovial seal]

this good for a first attempt at realism? ik its uncanny as hell lmao but hey that kinda works in my favour for what im trying to do

[flint patrol]

Finished this guy, tried to make him as accurate to flash as I could

[oak hatch]

Learning nodes and shaders.

[daring sparrow]

Trust me i ran into a few thanks for the warning non have got me yet

[patent dove]

Dunno why this Vrchat server is full of scammers

And I hope you've taken care of the rigging of your model

[obtuse rivet]

this had been an awful experience 💀

[gloomy crane]

Base mesh is almost done. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel...

[paper timber]

Im confused what these mean

[silk thistle]

Finished my Dragon pet, just intime for the chinese new year. 100% made from scratch.

[supple jewel]

Visit Upwork for one who can help

[swift jolt]

He needs that fat outline

[strong swift]

How does the blender skin modifier work?
Scaling the vertices doesn't seem to affect the thickness
Im trying to make some fluff with it, like here

[quaint jasper]

Isn't it alt + T or Shift + T like for curves?

[strong swift]

It's apparently ctrl+a, rather than S or Alt+S as someone suggested
And it took me like a solid hour to realize that official documentation exists :3

[solid hill]

how does one get access...4 years later haha

[quaint jasper]

To which? The channel or the forums?

[solid hill]

The channel

[quaint jasper]

As indicated by the last message in the channel, it has been temporarily archived.

[waxen flicker]

how do i prevent the end of this belt from bunching up like this?

[dusty heron]

Check the vertex weights of that area on other bones, it’s likely that somehow, the other bones of the armature are influencing that part of the model

Alternatively there’s some blender weight painting options that automatically normalise weights which could help too

[onyx creek]

any tips for wen sculpting cloaths to the avatar it keeps making sharp edges or uneven edges

[tight dune]

anyone know how to fix this?

[primal hedge]

Tanjiro fully textured

[glad steeple]

Printscreen!

[wild bison]

Hello everyone here
How are you doing
Please am looking for this avatar since past 2 days can anyone help me out

[glad steeple]

The avatar is a comission for another user. Basically its not available for use by the public from what i can tell.https://www.artstation.com/artwork/18zJo3

[viscid oar]

Watch out for DM scams!!! people love to randomly DM VRChat players claiming to help with Avatar creation and such. I get these DM's pretty often.

[strong swift]

Made a thingy, looking for some feedback, what do yall think

[brave widget]

I got a question how does one start making their own models I’m tired of buying

[stone pine]

I would recommend watching Rainhet's YouTube tutorial series to learn

[digital hound]

first time modelling a normal character from scratch. this is what I got so far

[glad bronze]

This looks great! The only thing that stands out to me is that the hair, fluff in the ear, and fluff on the side of the face have different levels of detail. I would disseminate, or even unsubdivide the fluff in the ear and the side of the face and increase the loops on the hair. Besides those small details, everything else looks good to me.

[digital hound]

I think I'm done with my first base made from scratch. maybe some minor polishing

[severe stratus]

i need help

[vivid stone]

It looks good but still some correction

[wispy verge]

can anyone help me fix my normal map

it is not normal

[quaint jasper]

Don't you have to use the normal map node ?

[wispy verge]

oh hey that worked

it didnt last time though i swear

[severe oar]

Wowie

This is so cool

[wispy verge]

thanks

[oak hatch]

Skull

[supple jewel]

Not looking realistic enough. Btw, it's a brilliant one tho🩶

[wispy verge]

[severe oar]

That's so good^-^

[severe oar]

Bro had some weed lol

[digital parrot]

👁️🫦 👁️

[simple flame]

making an attempt at turning my own species into a vrc model >:)
(yes it has ears+tail but i plan on making multiple types to toggle so they're Bald)

[static vapor]

Nice

[wispy verge]

attempted a pomni

[proven plinth]

You need to set your shader to one that can apply transparent values.
Those black lines represent the transparent parts of the hair.

[fresh matrix]

That was so long ago that I gave up and forgot about it 😂

[proven plinth]

Lol fair, well now you know for future projects I suppose

[fresh matrix]

I still have the project files, though! I think what I did is just exported it to Unity instead of using the Blender plugin to bake it. But then I had a issue where the avatar would face the floor while crouching and I gave up after that 😂

[vague jewel]

Very new to this and am just starting to figure out what I even need to download. Do I get the newest version of blender if I want to try and make a vrchat avatar? Or 3.3.1? 2.79b??

[proven plinth]

That’s a whole can of worms to unpack. I recommend utilizing tutorials on YouTube to get started

[vague jewel]

Yea I know lol. I was able to figure out that blender 2.93 is the last version comparable with cats so that’s what I went with. Already started practicing through some tutorials. Thanks tho!

[simple flame]

a little cutesy bow

[keen sierra]

Its compatible with 3.6.x

[vague sonnet]

This looks great

[wispy verge]

thanks!

[ashen forge]

weh

[ashen forge]

i am speed

[dusty stone]

https://twitter.com/centegrade/status/1756747596419207206

Centy (@centegrade) on X

Here it is! My first finished model from scratch!

I learned so much making this. A big step from the usual environmental stuff I do.

He's fully rigged and has visemes and expressions.

Software is Zbrush - Blender - Substance.

Twitter · Feb 11, 2024, 6:30 PM

[solid minnow]

Clown model I made in Blender. Added shaders in Unity.

[ashen forge]

soon

Still working on textures

[quaint jasper]

Cute design

[steady zealot]

Anybody know if there's a way to revert the menu order of header bar buttons? In 3.3.0 and before, the menu was ordered away from the header, and if it was on the bottom, it would be essentially upside down, going up. Since I updated to 4.0.2, it is in the same direction regardless of if the header bar is on top or bottom.

[ashen forge]

Do want to clarify this is not my design and is by this artist from the music video for Collared by Vane
https://fixupx.com/Crispy6usiness/status/1740525332929847374?s=20

[peak path]

Curious, I want to start learning to make my own scratch assets and such for avatars
Anyone got some good starter videos? Or recommended blender addons? (asides from CATs plugin)
Ik how sculpting works and such, more so I don't really understand UV maps/texturing

[quaint jasper]

Rainhet has great tutorial playlists for Blender beginners on her youtube channel

[lost panther]

Am I doing something wrong here with the weights transfer?

[lost panther]

When transfering weights the "Scorce layer selected" needs to be "By name" but when I do that it fucks up the objects, anything I can do?

[white dock]

I could use a hand in blender in terms of ideas, I'm trying to model this kind of hair ^

my issue stems from not being able to get it looking right when using paths without going overboard with them which takes hours of time and effort and is unoptimized, does anyone know what could possible help undertake this task ?

(No comissions, I'm wanting to do this myself)

[azure rain]

that would likely be using hair cards

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/635f5d31b3612726d52af0db/1674458816064-DAZ0HMIALX8NTGZULMMU/HairCardsHair.png

[keen sierra]

Pretty much

Personally id probably try the main hair in the back as a flat one piece since they seem rather straight by nature so you might get away with it if textured right

[white dock]

how would you go about using those ?

[white dock]

the topology looks familiar to alot of booth hairs which I'm trying to replicate

[azure rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2MbWYe1Kdw

[white dock]

3.6 plus ? I JUST downgraded cause CATs wasnt working, dammit ;-;

[azure rain]

you don't have to go the procedural node method?

and you can have multiple blender installs

[white dock]

Yeah, I figured, thank you :3

[azure rain]

https://www.artstation.com/marketplace/p/g1m6P/fibershop-realtime-hair-card-texturing-tool found this free to download haircard generator tool wonder if it might work for you

[white dock]

I'm not fussed for texture, just the blocky base mesh of them is fine like in the first example you showed

I'm probably just going to re-use the UV's that came with the base model for the colouring

[azure rain]

okay then in that case you're pretty much just turning curves into meshes

[white dock]

I was doing that before, but it turned out not looking so great and it was like 90k Polys

but I was using the "Stylised hair method" everywhere on youtube where you make a path copy a curve for shape

[azure rain]

yeah for haircuts it would just be just a path of quads not the full tube

[white dock]

this was the result ( I used a reference of when my hair wasn't straightened to lend to the curves more)

[keen sierra]

Btw cats works on 3.6.x (download the dev version from their github, linked in their discords faq-channel as very first message)

[white dock]

Idk, I was using it in 4.0 and I couldn't export models with it at all and it kept disabling itself

[keen sierra]

Its not ready for 4

[white dock]

so I just settled at 3.3

[keen sierra]

Fair. I use 3.6.2 iirc

[hushed leaf]

you don't need cats to export, of course

[white dock]

You don't. but it helps with not having to delete _end bones everytime I re-import it

[hushed leaf]

In the export window, under Armature, uncheck the setting about leaf bones.

You can save these settings as an Operator Preset too - upper right of the export window, I made one for "VRChat Avatar"

[white dock]

That helps actually, I'll do that tomorrow, it's getting late

[hushed leaf]

Yeah it's not exactly obvious

Of course I've just reported you for spamming

[spiral sigil]

That's a really good 3D model

Looks real

[strange trench]

Anyone know why the weight paint is acting this way?

[stone pine]

might be weight painted to a different bone

[strange trench]

Hmm, it's only painted to the neck, maybe it needs Neck & Head paints

[devout orchid]

use auto normalise, stuff painted to one bone should be bright red.

[steady zealot]

wheel. Not sure why. Got distracted

[onyx jewel]

fun little trick -- shrinkwrapped just the waist band & foot holes to make it fit sper nice

rest was hand sculpted with the clothes in transparent wireframe mode so I could see them relative to the skin underneath

[cerulean shoal]

wip i guess

[ashen forge]

hey guys ive been thinking of giving my character a new outfit what do you guys think of this?

[quaint jasper]

the shirt could use some more folds/nicer geo, but the idea is neat

[serene roost]

can anyone give me some pointers on how i should be rigging this? ive tried a lot of things and i still cant get it right. the shawl just keeps ending up penetrating the body and showing the inner skin of the avatar.

[static vapor]

Is the mantle using cloth or bones?

[serene roost]

bones

[static vapor]

Okay you need to use.
External collidors.

So the mantle would stay within that area your mantle is staying.

[serene roost]

so with physbone i assume?

would using cloth be easier?

[spiral sigil]

Does anyone know a way to fix this issue? I'm currently in the process of porting an avatar over to quest and encountered this :p

[quaint jasper]

You have to flip the normals of the transparent shoe in Blender

Alt + N > Flip Normals

[spiral sigil]

Yeah, Brain wasn't working until I realized I had to flip, Thanks again :3

[acoustic raft]

Does anyone know if theirs a tool for head swaps? I’m too poor to pay someone to do this shit for me, and I don’t have the time to learn it to perfection so the next best thing is a shot in the dark.

[quaint jasper]

Blender is free!

[devout orchid]

pretty sure "one click" kind of thing was implied

[stark sand]

Swapping out a head isn't a difficult task and can be done with blender with only the fundamentals. I highly doubt there's any tool that does it automatically, especially given it's such a simple task and would be way too much work for a result that likely wouldn't be as good as a 'quick' manual swap

you can delete a line around the neck and then remove/move the old head out of the way. Then get the new head and line it up near the neck. You can then use blender's "bridge edgeloops" function while selecting the bottom of the new head and the top of the neck to automatically fill in the spaces. For best results you'd want to make sure both edgeloops (bottom of head and top of neck) have the same number of vertices so they bridge without triangles, but this is not absolutely necessary

[valid needle]

you can shrink the head on the body you want in unity and body on the head you want and equip it like an object

[stark sand]

it's the 3d modeling channel so I assume they meant how to edit a model to have a different head. Also I think that would look weird in motion if not properly aligned in a 3D editor first

[devout orchid]

tldr: head swap is mundane but not an easy/uniform task so asking for some tools is like asking for breakpads change, anyone can do it but its hardly to be automated or be done in 1 minute

[valid needle]

☝️

[mint silo]

did the lighting from the cathedral scene of Venom Let There Be Carnage, i dont know if world lighting already changes the color of the specular, but someone please let me know. Other than that, how does it look so far?

https://tenor.com/view/carnage-venom-carnage-carnage-scream-scream-carnage-movie-gif-22614677

[bright egret]

today i have learned why some people will 3d-model certain face details instead of texturing them on
the tired lines under the eyes warp a bit severely when they're closed. this model turned into a trial and error test run a long time ago so it's ok

[bright egret]

also this is a really cool model the cathedral lighting is such a vibe
is the muscle texture modeled or painting on?

[sacred nexus]

Hey! I’m super new to blender and unity … I just finished modelling clothing for the Hobkin Redux that is used in VRchat for a friend. I am wondering how to make this not clip?

[mint silo]

It has been modelled and normal mapped to a lower poly model, if this answers your question. However, im not the one that modelled the actual model of Carnage cuz it's the model of Fortnite. I just modified the sculpt and texture colour to make it more movie-accurate

[valid needle]

just play with the weight painting

[bright egret]

a mix of playing around with weightpainting and editing the clothes mesh as you go, you might have to put space between the clothes mesh and the body. if it comes down to it, you might solve the problem by deleting the parts of the body mesh that are under the clothes.
there's also apparently something you can do with using blend shapes to shrink the body under the clothes, I haven't tried this myself but it could be worth looking into

[sacred nexus]

Thank you so much!

[ashen forge]

Model I'm working on of Heket from Cult of The Lamb

Figured I'd finally try sculpting a bit can I finally be called a real 3D modeler now? /j

[hushed leaf]

Yes!

[steady zealot]

Cute little pixel art style gameboy I made today!

[jovial seal]

how tall should i make the neck (im scared to do a head lmao)

[devout orchid]

use reference🤷‍♂️

[drowsy cloud]

hey guys, im trying to combine parts onto another using the "boolean" modifier and "Combine" but some pieces will still do difference instead of combining, anyone know why that is?

[dire bramble]

hey i need help

[valid needle]

With?

[obsidian nova]

Well…wonderful base. I’m really note sure about the texturing though. Something feels really off; and kind of low-quality about the way you went about this.

I can’t put my finger on it; but I’ll let you know if it hits me.

You know what, it could very well just be the lack of hair…

[jovial seal]

would any modellers here mind giving me pointers on how to prep / make a furry head for a model :3 id like to go into this informed cause like this model is really nice looking so far (ik the bodies the easy bit :( )

[quaint jasper]

Make a sculpt in the style you like and then retopo :)

[jovial seal]

retopo?

[quaint jasper]

Make sure the amount of edge loop at the bottom of the neck matches the body so that you can join them

Retopology

[jovial seal]

this can be done in blender im assuming

[quaint jasper]

Yes

[jovial seal]

i did this much manually should i just like catmull clark it and start sculpting i generated it from a sphere with 12 segments so it would line up with my neck?

[quaint jasper]

If you mean subdivide, then no since it won't match the neck, but yeah you can keep sculpting the form if you feel like it's not there yet

[jovial seal]

yeh i have just done this all in edit mode so far dragging stuf around

the nubs on wickers faces totally didnt stump me for hours

loop cutting where i need to and going from tehre

[rich badger]

Hi! I'm trying to get into 3D modelling, but i've been stumped with how to do some things. I know how to generally model stuff, but i'm having troubles modeling hair and clothes
I'm kinda shooting for a very specific kinda stylized/cartoony-ish style, and i cant really find any tutorials involving such, at least in terms of hair

and i chose the worst character to learn modeling with,,

just um.. @ or DM me please if providing help since i will not see it otherwise...

i can also go into more detail as to what im shooting for if needed

[rich badger]

i forgot to mention but uhh... I'm also using blender

[quaint jasper]

That would help sending you the correct way!

[patent dove]

https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1204506421631393913

You can only get scam DM here, so if you are looking for someone to commission go to VRC Traders

[mossy topaz]

Ah

Ok

[jovial seal]

how should i cut out the eyes > w >

im scared to just slice it

i just sliced it

idk if this looks ok

are there any guides to doing eyes better?

[devout orchid]

watch any anime eye tutorial, its a hollow unlit cave with iris floating in it, pretty sure most furries follow

[tulip bolt]

picking up blender now that i have a pc, i started working on a low poly model but ive only got the head down and everythings a bit confusing. any tips on starting blender?

[keen sierra]

If you just slice it wherever to make a hole, you will have to retopo the model anyway. You want the mesh around the eyeball to be face loops so that facial shapes dont look jagged later. My personal suggestion is for you to subdiv/multires the model and just shape it out an do a complete retopo later when you are happy with the shape. Also, dont get lost in details like shaping the collarbone or the crease on top of the head or muscle shapes too much. You can later create insanely detailed normal maps that dont require more vertices

[jovial seal]

how does one retopo?

keep getting this error :3

[jovial seal]

anyone mind hopping on a call with me and helping me do a retopo?

my topology is dog water

this is what my topology currently looks like

is this good enough?

[rich badger]

Alright! Uhh, I’m shooting for something like these??? Sort of? These are kinda more-so inspos, but something similar to these in some way??? And these are kinda for BOTH clothes and the hair
Some pics may be low quality, mainly cus of my poor internet at the moment :(

But this is somewhat of like the style I’m tryina go for

[rich badger]

Help on having like, 2D faces would be awesome too
Like,,, 2D faces that can be changed w/ goggles

👍

[quaint jasper]

That would most likely be done with curves for the hair, or low poly modeling with subdiv, depending on the result sought. For the clothing there's nothing special aside from the toon shading

[rich badger]

Alright, thank you

In terms of the clothes, I’m just not sure where to begin with that overall since I’ve been worried more about the hair than the clothes

Tho I’m sure I could just watch a tutorial?

[quaint jasper]

There are tutorials for absolutely everything and every step of modelling

Rainhet has a great beginner playlist on her youtube channel

[rich badger]

Thank you again

[daring fern]

I need help with blender. My cats does not wanna open?

[twin wren]

which blender verison r u using

[daring fern]

4.0

[twin wren]

cats only seems to work with 2.80 - 2.93

ur gonna have to downgrade ur blender

[jovial seal]

what should i do to improve the topology that wont require a remodel?

[jovial seal]

i wanna model some anime/ cartoon eyes but dont want clipping with the mouth of my avatar how can i do dis :3

also i wanna know whether or not my topology is ok to proceed :L

[bleak tree]

There's a fix for this.

Lemme go get it

@daring fern

I found this fix. I'm able to open CATS in 4.0 without a problem.

[empty fox]

There is also https://github.com/Yusarina/Cats-Blender-Plugin-Unofficial-

Which is a continuation of CATS since it is abandoned.

[daring fern]

Thank you

[daring fern]

I don’t have a hair root when I merge everything together in blender?

[spiral sigil]

is this what happens when you have someone who doesn't know how to model, model something?

[valid needle]

What?

[bleak tree]

Looks like Banjo.

[jovial seal]

gonna just reply to this message since i really wanna know if this topologies good enough

[jovial seal]

TwT#

[keen sierra]

Looks a little unsmooth here and there. The neck has some ngons - should see that you can make it quads. Also the eye sockets should probably have 2 or 3 more face rings around them for good facial movement when it comes to expressions. I gotta say though i dont dislike the design of it

[jovial seal]

3 face rings? this is litterally my first time ever modelling a furry face that isnt a mask lol

also where are the ngons on the neck i thought ngons are shapes with more than 4 edges?#

wait

no im dumb

nvm

[jovial seal]

im only at like 22k polys

could i just loop cut the body 6 times so they line up

@keen sierra

this better

i also removed some tris off of the head

added 1 extra ring thingy

(i think)

[keen sierra]

Make the socket go inside a bit towards the brain. You dont want hard edges to be seen later when you add eyeballs :)

[jovial seal]

yeh

isnt there 2 ways to make tho

on is lik

with images

and the other is 2 spheres

then the wicker ik just seems to have 2 giant spheres that look like a single sphere

i dont want clipping with the maw tho

that better

[jovial seal]

could i invert the fae orientation

and have an image on the eyes

so so that ths eyes dont clip ingame

[keen sierra]

Sure you can use just a round plane or an actual eyeball but what good would face inversion do you?

[rich badger]

How should I go about modeling her hands

Cus like, I could use a normal hand tutorial but at the same time

How would I go about doing the paw pads and lil claws???

[keen sierra]

Pads snd claws are usually separate. I wouldnt worry about it for now

[rich badger]

Alright

Ummm

How would I go about it when I do get to that point? I’m just asking a lot cus i made a lot of progress and I’ve been

Kinda doin what I can

At the point I’m at

and uhhh this is what i have at the current moment

[keen sierra]

Once you have the fingers, you can literally just make and duplicate oval shapes and stick them on your fingers. You can later weight paint them to the finger bones so theyll move just fine with each finger as well

[rich badger]

It’s that simple,?

[keen sierra]

Yeah why wouldnt it be?

[rich badger]

Idk

I was overthinking it so badly 😭 I appreciate it tho

[keen sierra]

Let me show you two examples

Either you can make them separate like here

Or just crease them in and only paint them with texture like here

[rich badger]

Oooo

Thank you again! This helps alot

[rich badger]

How should I even go about modeling her hair??? I’m trying to stick as close to my artstyle as possible I’m just

Not sure where to begin

Her hair is very weird

[quaint jasper]

Lots of curves

[rich badger]

How do I go about using curves??? I haven’t really worked with those before

[quaint jasper]

Plenty of tutorials on youtube that can explain it better than I can

[rich badger]

Alright

[hushed leaf]

Curves are amazing once you "get it"

[floral sail]

When I apply Subdivision surface it makes my model have more Polygons, Anyone know how to stop that?

[keen sierra]

Wha...

[devout orchid]

@floral sail whole point of subdivision is to have more polygons. roughly 4 times more per level.

[rich badger]

Is there a recommended tutorial for curves??? I’m just extremely

Extremely lost

[quaint jasper]

Which tutorials have you already watched and which step is confusing to you?

[rich badger]

I’ve watched multiple, I think I’m just generally not sure how to get it to match my artstyle, exactly? That’s my primary concern

Though I’m probably just overthinking the shit out of this

My main struggle is also choosing which ones to use for her hair

But the tutorials I used specifically were ones by Bran Sculpts, ItsPaulTodd, and Ryan King Art

[jovial seal]

i just dont want the balls clipping into the mouthlol

if anyone dosnt mind if theyve worked on modelling furry models and furry visemes and eyes (i really struggle with tutorials mind shooting me info in dms and possibly arranging a time we can vc so u can show me the ropes i really dont wanna screw this model up and im scared to proceed on my own)

[keen sierra]

Then adjust the roof of the mouth downwards a little and dont make the eyeballs too big. It gets tight but its totally doable

[mint silo]

sadly, blender adds so much more polys when using the solidify modifier..

[jovial seal]

any tutorials on how to setup face visemes for a furry model? lol

or should i just wing it

[keen sierra]

Youtube

[quaint jasper]

If you need an outline then do it in a shader!

[mint silo]

which one would be best?

[quaint jasper]

Any of the popular one tbh

[flat jay]

I just didn’t have the back like 25% of the sphere actually there, I just cut off the geometry, because when do you ever see the back of the eyeball? You don’t

[flat jay]

As long as the maximum up/down/left/right angles you expect the eyeball to make don’t show that the eye actually is like half a pingpong ball, you’ll get away with it

[jovial seal]

i squished the roof of the mouth down

i think its ok now?

[flat jay]

Or ye that works too

[jovial seal]

im just working on the back hair fluff

im really scared to do the face / jaw visemes

like should the jaw just move up and down at different heights for the visemes or should i make the lips move aswell?

[flat jay]

Lips should move for visemes otherwise you might as well do the jaw bone flap method

Where you just rig the jaw to a bone and select it in the unity vrchat descriptor instead of visemes

[jovial seal]

i want the lips to move slightly but not much

because i feel like itd be wierd on a wickerbeast

either way

finished modelling my fluff now

hes really coming together lol

hes still not 40k polys

so like im good on space rn

[jovial seal]

for my first time modelling a head

i think i did ok

the model is around 40k polys

(including extra toggles and stuff)

like extra fluff etc etc

im sure i can prune that later by manually retopologising the fluff

tho idk if i wanna

cause he looks

so damn foomfeh

[flat jay]

You can select loops of vertices and dissolve them to keep shape while significantly reducing polys

[jovial seal]

just did dat

[dire bramble]

Can someone help me rig my model

[north lantern]

25k Tris

[toxic spear]

i didnt know where to go for this but the eyes on the model are whitened out due to their being a lens material. is there any way to make that transparent or remove it all together?

[north lantern]

using a transparent shader should work after setting blend mode

[quick thunder]

adorable

[jovial seal]

you can use bones to create blendshapes right?

so i can just rig my jaw then leave it?

[jovial seal]

well delete the jaw bone

[north lantern]

There is a way to do it yes

I dont remember if its a plugin or not tho

[quaint jasper]

Bone to shapekey is a default blender option iirc

[jovial seal]

also will this armature be alright for a vrc model?

[waxen flicker]

why aren't these weights mirrored? the mesh is completely symmetrical, i've got X symmetry on, the bones and corresponding vertex groups (identically named on both sides) all have _L and _R suffixes, and honestly i'm at a loss lol

[keen sierra]

Do you have this option enabled?

[unkempt shore]

WIP

[waxen flicker]

now i do ^^;

...i also completely forgot to update the message when i resolved the problem last night, sorry!

[pastel tendon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1205244131765649542/1215741238888632341/0001-0016-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

i three dee modeled this guy

and animationed

tthis guy

[errant bloom]

Current wip that i might turn into an avatar, don't know how to do all that rigging and set up however so I might have to just brute force through unity

[azure rain]

working on a castle town

[mild talon]

wip

[dire bramble]

With the rigging people asking me how to put this I'm broke I'm fully broke I can't afford people to ring my avatars

I don't even have a balance

[valid needle]

mixamo

[drowsy cloud]

Can you mirror an item without keeping the orignal item? Im looking to do something wich I need 1 of each side and I dont want to have to rebuild it all

[uncut scarab]

Mesh --> mirror? Or flip ? Id imagine it's something like that.

Don't have blender open in front of me but yeah

That would mirror without keeping a copy of the original

Google says it's Ctrl + M then X Y or Z

[hushed leaf]

damn I should read before typing

[magic pond]

can anyone help me with weighting skirts/dresses without physbones please

[mint silo]

you could always weight it to the nearest bone, have you heard of auto weighting?

[magic pond]

no

[mint silo]

i suggest looking at this then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7piAUK9AQs4&ab_channel=RoyalSkies

[magic pond]

ok now i need help

when doing emotes or moving it does this the wieghts have issues can someone help me

[sour tusk]

could i get some help with UV mapping on blender i need to straighten some parts but all the things i can find don't work because i have tris

[quaint jasper]

Use the tris to quad function?

[sour tusk]

it messes up details

[slate pine]

Hi! would appreciate any help. How do I avoid clipping through of my avatar's body over its clothing? do I need to delete this part of the body mesh underneath ? Or should I just add the clothes in unity with vrcfury add on? thanks

[steel fable]

It would be easiest to remove the part beneath the clothing in Blender.

If it can't be seen there's no point in having it.

[slate pine]

ok I'll do that thanks!

[swift jolt]

Make blendshapes to shrink the body underneath

[restive sorrel]

anyone know how to use the mirror in blender for add cloths thanks

[keen sierra]

sounds like problem xyz - what isnt working?

[restive sorrel]

so i added colths to avatar i just need to add them to avatar wait paint i havent used blened in a while and have forgot

[keen sierra]

To achieve a good weight painting base, have a look at either parenting with automatic weights or try mesh data transfer addon, which can transfer shape keys as well as vertex groups

I suggest a quick tutorial on youtube to recall how that stuff works again

[pulsar pelican]

Hiya gamers I wanted to ask something quick
The character I'm modelling has a quirk where he changes "moon phases" depending on what direction he's looking (looking forward is a full moon)

Is there a way I could replicate this on a 3D model? I use Blender

(the model in question btw)

[slender ice]

I did some texture work. I hate my life, but I'm almost done with this thing. (My version of prototype armor I need to flush it up a little more though.)

[serene roost]

Does VRChat support Joint driven keys?

[solar fossil]

Don't think it does,but you could probably use physbones to get something pretty similar

Or scratch that, physbones would probably not work all that great.
However a sender plus a receiver should do the trick, won't be linear with the rotation but it should at least work

[serene roost]

Hi! Can you elaborate on sender and receiver?

[solar fossil]

Haven't really used them in a long time so might be misremembering, but iirc vrc has contact sender and contact receiver
You can put a sender on the tip of the bone that is rotating and have a receiver placed around the same area, the receiver let's you get a float value in the animator for the distance to that sender

[devout creek]

Anyone got any rig tips for accurate tracking I've been having issues with my leg IK breaking in weird ways like the bones not following the trackers exactly and weird stuff like that

[pseudo hornet]

@steel birch

I didnt know blender when i started animating so I just left it undecimated xD

heres the animation its featured in: https://youtu.be/GuIzDCsm-eU?si=Rmx21sLKmYGCYWnT

[steel birch]

holy fuck

[pseudo hornet]

basically my first full animation

[steel birch]

decimate pls

[pseudo hornet]

drops some VR users (including me) to 1fps

I like the lag :)

[restive sorrel]

so i have an issue i add cloths in blender so when i am in game i can see the new cloths but other people can see them an ideas thanks

[devout orchid]

#avatar-help

[opaque cape]

how do I attach ears and tail to an avatar

[valid needle]

like in blender or unity?

[opaque cape]

Just in blender

[acoustic raft]

How much should an avatar edit cost if I have all the assets and everything needed for the avatar? all they have to do is put it together and do the toggles. How much and how long should something like this takes? And I understand everyone says it varies but if I had to hit a universal price range.

[quaint jasper]

Given that there are some dedicated tools to create those toggles in a few clicks, and that putting the pieces together can be done in Unity as well, it shouldn't be much work, hard to give a price range for that though but certainly under $100

[jovial seal]

anyone mind helping me make my eyes appear less uncanny later on a vc?

[acoustic raft]

For Booth yeah but I think booth avatars are kinda busted in the face so blander might be the only option

[quaint jasper]

Blender would be even easier then

[acoustic raft]

Whaaat!!! Don’t tell me that cuz i have been told it’s a 2 week job and how it’s 150$ and I’m like why does a fucking edit cause more than an actual avatar, that’s stupid af if they’re not making it 100% from scratch.

[acoustic raft]

I should probably be more clear about what I want done that might change the difficulty level a bit. I’m trying to do a head swap with the hair that’s on it and an outfit with some boots. I want the hair toggle to still work the same way as well as the toggle from the body. I want to add the head on to. But I don’t want a shit job where that shit clips like syringe

[quaint jasper]

Two weeks is how long it would take most professional avatar creators to make a whole thing from scratch

[acoustic raft]

Ok @quaint jasper let’s talk business you cook or what ?

[quaint jasper]

Nah I'm not doing commissions sorry, but check out the VRCTraders server in #1204490664637890580

[acoustic raft]

Will do

[jovial seal]

anyone mind helping me do the eyes on my avatar in a bit they look uncanny

[mint silo]

holy crap

talk about challenging vrchat's poly limit lmao

[pseudo hornet]

i have worse lol

blackcat retexture hits int limit and all you see is mesh read/write disabled in game

[mint silo]

jesus

[mint silo]

HAHAHH

i never knew this was possible

also god DAMN the bounds

[pseudo hornet]

nah those are pretty small

[mint silo]

lol

[pseudo hornet]

this is the avatar that the mesh above is on

[mint silo]

oh

i see now

also

only 106mb????

[pseudo hornet]

ja, i might make it higher, it still has some avatar details at medium

[mint silo]

damn

[mint silo]

ayo playing with blender's bevels is so damn satisfying

[ashen basalt]

Im making this for a friend, never modeled furrys before, and its being pretty fun, the spoiled image is from earlier pics of the model, its not finished yet

[spiral sigil]

Looking great. Yeah, the early phases are always cursed

[jovial seal]

why is my blendshap]e green?

[spiral sigil]

You have a keyframe set somewhere.

It's waiting for you to animate and set the next keyframe basically

[jovial seal]

how tf i dont even have ok thankyou i never animate in blender lol

[spiral sigil]

Probably clicked on the little dot that is now a diamond

If you check the timeline, there will be a diamond somewhere on it where that keyframe is set, and you can delete it from there.

Just click on that keyframe and hit delete while the mouse is over that window section and it will be gone.

[jovial seal]

ye i got rid of it now 👍 on a side note why does symmetrizin sometimes fuck up] my blendshap]]e and other times actually mirror it

[jovial seal]

im really struggling to figure out if this looks uncanny

[quaint jasper]

Set the roughness of your materials to max, they're not supposed to be shiny/look like plastic

[jovial seal]

ty i totally didnt forget i can do that i swear

why does bending the blink slightly upwards make him look soo happy?

[steady zealot]

Making some modular pipes

[ashen basalt]

awesome work, from scratch?

dayum

[jovial seal]

Yes :D

[ashen basalt]

i need to learn with the furrys how to do their thing >w<

[ashen basalt]

lookin good

[jovial seal]

i was so afraid to start a model from scratch lmao so i just thought id stick to my wicker since im always workign with jins wicker i figured id just make my own at this point

[wheat delta]

Made a couple of loungy chairs yesterday. Heightmap doing a lot of work for the leather bits though.

[ashen basalt]

time to weightpaint this shit

[waxen magnet]

first time working with sacc flight, managed to get my model working just needa figure out how to animate the control surfaces and canopy

[mint silo]

took me a while to get the sculpt that i wanted, but here is the strongest kid in the world

[quaint jasper]

Turn off the yassify filter

[valid needle]

💀

[mint silo]

LOL

nah man he's naturally built like that

all genetics

[foggy kettle]

just wondering what the best version of blender is to use? needed to reinstall and want to make sure i got a proper one

[quaint jasper]

The latest

[foggy kettle]

thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[magic hawk]

Wip from scratch Called Sammy

[quaint jasper]

From scratch

[magic hawk]

Well from makesvatar so technically the base was made but ive heavily modified everything

Structure wise

Pls dont hurt me mr mod ruuubick sir

[quaint jasper]

I was going to say his head needed to be scaled up, but his head actually is just that small

[mint silo]

yep, i noticed it too lol

[errant bloom]

made a render for the custom model, now im finally done in blender and have to do the rest of the pain setting up in unity

im making clothing for him aswell, so that why the lower parts might looks a bit weird for now

[mint silo]

shape keys save lives ya know

[errant bloom]

i know i know i just mean like the weirdly too humanoid look, most people tend to make their models have more fluff or stuff to make it not look as uncanny, i have some blendshapes ill be adding later for fur if i toggle the armor off, gotta do some weight panting here soon too

[mint silo]

ah i see, alr

[quaint jasper]

That's a really neat style

[solid stag]

May i ask if this is going to be public?

[north lantern]

It's a for sale model

[solid stag]

Oh i understand! Great model though!

[quick thunder]

a version that isn't specifically beemo would be pretty neato, really cute base/design

[north lantern]

I was thinking of making it just a base, just havent had much time

I would probably improve some base texture stuff and visemes

[north lantern]

Thank you

[solid stag]

No problem

[static hemlock]

having never really modelled a character before I'm really happy with how it's going, just going to have to learn how to make it work with VRC

[steady zealot]

First shot at sculpting a person. Inspired by Final Fantasy

Still a wip

[lyric valve]

Can anyone suggest which type of hair will look good on this?

[mint silo]

for a beginner, that looks really good! kinda weird how it has a middle tooth lol

[static hemlock]

yeah it's cause of the subd but I fixed it

[cobalt tiger]

Head sculpt

[mint silo]

im sorry but

https://tenor.com/view/shiny-forehead-bald-gif-12650790

[cobalt tiger]

Lol

I can probably make an accurate handsome squidward. I haven't found an avi yet

[mint silo]

dear god

[steady zealot]

WIP retopology. So satisfying

[steel kayak]

How do you sculpt symmetrically

[static hemlock]

this, or you add a mirror modifier, though doing so can get messy if you sculpt the midsection past the threshold you set

[ashen basalt]

lookin pretty good

[solar fossil]

What Kantrophe suggested but i would say having both mirror and x symmetry enabled, enabling x symmetry makes it so the sculpting strokes get applied symmetrically but does not guarantee that the topology is mirrored, while the mirror modifier does its thing after ensuring the topology is actually mirrored

[steady zealot]

is it acceptable to use triangles in this case?

[azure rain]

it's all going to become triangles anyway when it gets to unity and it's not a workflow with the subsurface modifier on vrchat so yeah that's totally fine

and like the part of the foot you have the triangles and isn't going to move much so that's not going cause any animation issues

[stone lake]

i'm working on a 3d model of my oc

it's my first time making 3d models

so i MIGHT have trouble with making the cartoon hands

[jovial marlin]

Dis any one now get some one to making Avatar

[wispy marlin]

Finally made a tank top for my custom avatar. Got alot of different outfit combinations now!

[quaint jasper]

Please watch this playlist
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2EEbgwoJzdsC9wfKA2ZO2kAf4HDqC8a8

[waxen ivy]

Is there anyone experienced with baking texture atlasses in blender that I can talk to?

[stone lake]

thank you

[proven plinth]

Spend the past few days modeling one of my monster designs! Textures are just place holders for now and no animations, but everything else is setup and ready to roll.

[quaint jasper]

That's super cool

Really nice use of the outline for the chest cavity

[pure sigil]

Oh my

[cinder tapir]

my first completed 3D model! (based on an irl plushie by corgibeans)

[waxen ivy]

Is anyone experienced with baking in blender that I could pick their brain?

[quaint jasper]

impressive!

[keen sierra]

First ever go at zbrush

[hushed umbra]

yo could someone help me w this? for some reason my model in blender lets me edit the mesh but when i try to use scuplt move it dont work

and when i change what i want in edit mode, it doesnt save to layout

[mint silo]

do you have any shapekeys selected?

[hushed umbra]

lemme check

@mint silo

it just says this so ig yes?

yeah i do

that fixed it

tysmmm

[mint silo]

np

[hushed umbra]

also anyone know if its possible to merge two different armature types/

?

[quaint jasper]

Yes, just make just to apply the scale of both before merging

[manic glacier]

Cyber snek head after retopology, with baked gi and reflections

[solid minnow]

Since a lot of cute chibi avis are privatized, and a lot of my favorite ones got taken down, I took the liberty of making my own!

[azure tulip]

I wanted to make a cute mixture of Easter and Cherry blossom festival!
🌸 ✨ 🥚 🐰

[hushed umbra]

could someone help me?
im trying to attach the tusk to the body so it moves w the head. idk what to do though

[azure tulip]

have you parented/weight painted it to the head or jaw bone?

[hushed umbra]

not sure how to do that, im new to this all

how do i do that?

[azure tulip]

there is a lot of really good tutorials on youtube. you should spend some time watching 1 or 2. it really helps when trying to understand what you are doing in blender