avatar-rigging

[hasty cloud]

these?

[pseudo trout]

Oh yeah

I make clothing toggles all the time

[hasty cloud]

basically

have an animation where ur blade is spinning

and leave loop time on

then

connect it to a new layer

place in your animation

and ur done lol

welp imma go to sleep

[pseudo trout]

this is what you helped me create

[hasty cloud]

glad i could help!

[night spear]

so does anyone know why does importing into blender causes any and all models to become corrupted? this is only on blender, 3ds max and unity it looks fine. people in the blender server are being useless

[sleek apex]

This most likely has to do with high triangle count, especially since it looks like you’re working with a lot of rounder surfaces. Try lowering the detail on your model in blender, then importing them back in.

[arctic sundial]

It has to do with the armature being rotated 90 degrees. Unparent the armature, rotate on axis by 90, then reparent in the same position

[night spear]

yeah thats the thing, cant do anything "inside blender" at all, this happens right when i import, whether via settings or via cats plugin

[sleek apex]

Have you make mean of using Roblox for importing the model,I think making use of this don't corrupt

[night spear]

precisely, it is for roblox specifically, which is why i was trying to merge the meshes

[tranquil furnace]

Hey people, does anyone know if it's possible to make "2D eyes"? Like, I have a model that is heavily reliant on 2D textures and I felt that it'd be cool to animate its eyes through textures, thank you in advance

Or in other words - 2D textures change

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmmEReFybRY

Similar to this basically

[opaque crag]

Anyone have any tips for rigging for a FBT rig to be as accurate as possible, I have tons of really strange issues like my knees not bending straight and weird things like that, I can't find any information on the steps to take to ensure my rig is 'perfect' for accurate tracking. the rig at the very least is proportionally correct to my own proportions IRL so there's that.

Update : Don't solicit me. I'm not going to commission anyone for anything.

[fervent mantle]

did you use fbx exporter on unity to get the fbx? cause thats what it looks like lol

[fervent mantle]

I mean you can do material swap animations for the eyes

[night spear]

correct. had to get the fbx for the youtuber

the model itself is a youtuber, just need a few adjustments

[warm aspen]

Hello friends, I was wondering
How to not lose your mind when weight painting ?

[night spear]

so wish ai can do that automatically

[warm aspen]

🥲

It does not make any sense.
I smoothed out the weight but it acts like I just colored the thing red

[fervent mantle]

did you rip it? cause thats what it's sounding like

[night spear]

had a friend do it for me, saw no other way

usually one has to be extremely popular for their model to show up in sketch fab n such

[fervent mantle]

rotate the mesh 90%

[night spear]

i do find it odd because on a preview in every other software besides blender, the model appears normal

[fervent mantle]

you need more verticies it's too low poly for a good smooth bend

[warm aspen]

Are you talking about my cape ?

[fervent mantle]

yeah sorry i replied to the wrong thing lol

[warm aspen]

That's quiet enough polygons imo.
Normally with the weight I painted it should slowly lose deformation towards the center.
But here it's an all or nothing for some reason

[river ingot]

You should have the orange up to the 3rd square, the green at the fourth, and so on. Then have it blended in with the conjoining bone so both have blue/green at the same centered column where they meet.

[river ingot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sfTEBAl8sA&t=2849s

[pale pumice]

whisky

[warm aspen]

Damn, I was using Vodka

[pale pumice]

oh that'll work too. I just like the taste of straight whisky more

[opaque crag]

A few of his tips are fairly outdated

[river ingot]

that was a while ago heh

[river ingot]

following this? that vid says to make them straight from hand to hand, but this picture shows to bend the knees etc etc..

[trim nexus]

Anyone ever have to deal with their avatars tiptoeing everywhere and then settling into a michael jackson stance?

[soft kite]

Hello everyone

[trim nexus]

🗿

[fervent mantle]

most of the time its a playspace issue

like its detecting your floor lower than it is

[trim nexus]

that actually would make perfect sense thank you

[trim nexus]

it helped but its still a bit off, the leaning when the legs are not locked is still a problem

[covert junco]

hello guys i need someone who can help me rig my vrchat avatar

[hollow quartz]

Limbs need to have a slight bend in the way you'd expect them to bend

This goes for rigging in general, not just VRChat

[turbid pecan]

anyone know why this keeps happening ;w;

[rare moon]

You need to select your fbx, then in the inspector go to rig, then click configure. Then assign the chest bone correctly.

[turbid pecan]

in blender or unity

this is my first avatar ive made so its been confusing

[river ingot]

unity

[chilly badge]

hello, so im trying to upload an avi for the first time and im running Windows 11 on my mac. its running fine and should upload other than the fact that i dont knwo what this means. could anyone tell me when i need to do? i dont know the names of most things so if someone could speak newbie to me it would be appreciated ;-;

[rare moon]

select your avatar, then in the inspector, find blueprint ID and click "Detatch"

also this is the rigging channel, so if you're asking for help unrelated to rigging it's probably better to ask in #avatar-help

[chilly badge]

oh im sorry i didnt know which channel to put it in

[hasty cloud]

im having an issue where when i try auto-weigting a clothing to my armature, it says: "Bone Heat Weighting: failed to find solution for one or more bones"

[brazen island]

i dont quite remember but i think it doesnt like loose meshes so select main linked part, separate it and auto weight, then weightpaint the chain manually or smth and combine

[hasty cloud]

i tried, it doesnt work...

i separated not only the chains, but the long sleeves

[hasty cloud]

ah i made it work

[icy horizon]

im trying to break these into their own individual pieces and im not really sure how i would do that, would anyone be willing to help

[river ingot]

I know a manual way to go about seperating the meshes. Cats also has a "Seperate mesh" option that might work on it too. Then there may be a trick for blender that has some college level way to go about it.

[icy horizon]

i just need them to be in seperate pieces so quest doesnt die when i try to make them toggle individually

[hard cedar]

Go in Edit mode, hover the piece you want to seperate, press "L". enjoy this life hack 😍 (and then press P to seperate by selection after you've finished selecting)

[icy horizon]

Thank you but it seems that the avatar just probably won't work for quest with the toggles with how it's designed

Thanks for the tip though :) I'll use this in the future

[river ingot]

looks like what you need to toggle are already seperated on the right, their just hidden?

[arctic sundial]

Too many polygons or skinned meshes?

[icy horizon]

Sadly

[arctic sundial]

Thats why i meant earlier when we spoke

Quest requirements are insane

[rare moon]

Is there a hard limit for that? I've seen some really poor stats on quest avis, like 400k polygons and almost 100 materials and like 70 something skinned mesh renderers

It won't perform well but I didn't think there was a hard limit for those things, or if there was that it was pretty high

[arctic sundial]

As you can see, i was asking them that and didnt really get a definitive answer as to what the issue is.

[brazen island]

with a lot of stuff comes huge model size, and theres 10mb hard limit

[lone mural]

when im making a "happy" shape key expression in blender, can i just name it whatever i want

[rare moon]

yes

[hollow apex]

worked fine in blender but... I have no idea why this is happening.

not my first rig rodeo but not a clue why this is happening.

I'm not sure... tested in blender it worked fine. i dont know what could possibly be wrong

Ive noticed in blender after combining the amatures, that everything is completely out of order.. I have no idea how to fix the bone order? the head bone is seperate from the rest of the body. does anyone know if this can be fixed? I am not familiar with rigging but I guess I'll start there becauuse this isn't correct

[hollow apex]

I fixed the rig but... no luck. is anyone able to help?

[river ingot]

agh, thats a blendshape problem. If you change something on blender, it can have an affect on the blendshapes i.e. what are used for facial expressions for talkig etc.

If you have save points its better to go back to a prior one.

[hollow apex]

oh! okay. so its the blendshapes..

should i delete the blendshapes then>?

i can try deleting the blendshapes and exporting the test to see. ill get back to it asap

also thank you!

[river ingot]

just make a save before you do..heh..I deleted all mine and now I have to make new ones to make the mouth move when he speaks..=(

[hollow apex]

so what would i do to have visemes but avoid this? and oh gosh that sounds bad D: I just deleted the visemes just now and exported but didn't save so that i could test to do a diagnostic test

ok deleted the visemes but it still turns out to be this. I've never had this before im so confused.

so its not the visemes. but.. in blender everything looks normal..

[river ingot]

im not sure theres a big difference between the two?

[lone mural]

Does anyone know why this could be happening?? im trying to edit expressions on my face and i wanna keep symmetrical, but any time i try, there are a handful of vertices that stay put and dont move...

[lone mural]

(FIRST SLIDE: stubborn verts)

(SECOND SLIDE: ideal verts)

[lone mural]

im editing the corner of my mouth btw

[lone mural]

pls

[hasty cloud]

i'd prolly recommend using sculpt tool instead

[stuck mesa]

hi guys so im tryna get this guy to work and ive rigged him up, weight painted, but troubles come in importing him into unity, as the rig tool thing inside doesnt recognize all of my bones, or marks them red even if theyre correctly assigned, anyone know why this is happening? also says my model isnt in a t-pose, i thought an A-pose is sufficient?

[brazen island]

you have extra bones, its hips - upper leg (with gap), also your hip bone is upside down

also no feet

[arctic sundial]

no feet

[stuck mesa]

do you mean these 2?

and i thought it didnt need feet because of a different rig i saw on google images

ill get to fixing that

[balmy delta]

You need feet but you dont need toes

[stuck mesa]

oh okay thanks

[balmy delta]

Also it being not in Tpose doesnt entirely matter

Since in unity you can just force tpose

Or in blender just pose it as tpose before exporting

[meager turtle]

Any tips for what I'm doing wrong rigging the hands here? They're weirdly rotated relative to my controllers, and the fingers seem to be rotating somewhat oddly as well

In contrast, on a different avatar

[meager turtle]

This is how the bones are set up on the hand in the first screenshot

And this is how they're set up on the hand in the second screenshot

[arctic sundial]

Have you checked muscle settings in unity?

[meager turtle]

How do I check that?

[arctic sundial]

If you do not animate your hand gestures, unity assigns default ones. Muscle settings control how far fingers bend when opening, closing the fist as well as max value rotations. They can be found in the import settings of your fbx, specifically in the rig configuration

It may or may not be that. I cant see anything wrong with your rig in blender tho

[meager turtle]

ah. well this is how its set up in the import settings. They look fine to me, as these are the usual settings I use for models and it typically works fine

[arctic sundial]

Top, second image

Go into muscle settings and close the hand, see if its weird there too.

[meager turtle]

I assume I should use "Finger Open Close" to check?

[arctic sundial]

Its effectively the same as moving all fingers separately, just in one slider

You will see the values shift

[meager turtle]

Yeah no this is how it looks in Unity when using the Finger Open Close slider

In contrast to how it looks in VRChat

[arctic sundial]

Interesting. Hmm

Is it like this in play mode?

[meager turtle]

The model just stays in place when going into play mode. Do I need something like gesture manager to test it?

[arctic sundial]

Yep

[meager turtle]

seems fine in editor?

could it be that i'm using index controllers?

[arctic sundial]

Im unsure how that would make it so much worse but do you have other controllers you can test with?

[meager turtle]

I can test with Quest controllers in a bit, sure.

[river ingot]

thats fixed in the animation proxys that are default in the sdk folder. You can change the "idle" proxy and adjust the finger positioning in it and add it in to the locomotion slot in vrc descriptor...but I havent done that in a little while so it might not be locomotion..but its one of those.

[meager turtle]

o lord... i feel like i should be able to do something in Blender to fix this though, given other models don't have that issue

[meager turtle]

late response but yeah, the issue still persists with quest controllers.

in contrast, here's how it looks on the other hands i showed previously

and here's a comparison of how the hand is rotated with the quest controllers

[meager turtle]

...turns out it just needed a reupload LOL

[hollow quartz]

unity moment

[random bridge]

Hello

[slate sapphire]

im editing my avi i bought, currently it only has Proximal and Intermediate finger bones, and some world interactions just dont work, supposedly since i dont have the third finger bone. for example, the sunset bar drink machine works fine with my other avis, just not this one. how would i add a third finger bone?

its a deira btw

[slate monolith]

hey im looking for someone that is good at rigging (not using auto riggers) trying to get a character rigged willing to pay commision also dont want the character shared or used as its a personal avatar i have made from scratch im just not the best at rigging

[arctic sundial]

You will likely get scam dms from people here

[slate monolith]

sad any idea where to look? i have tried fiver and all 3 people just used riggafy and its not awfull but not what i want

[arctic sundial]

Vrctraders from #1204490664637890580 - they have a verified artist role unlike here

[slate monolith]

mk thanks so much ❤️

[fervent mantle]

Boo 🤮

[balmy delta]

[radiant seal]

Not sure if this is where I should ask this or not, but I need some help with creating a snake hand puppet and not sure how to do that or rig it properly. I've seen and used snake hand puppet models in the past and I'd like to have the body trail behind the head and allow me to kinda pose the snake by moving around (i.e. if I want to coil it up into a spot and stuff manually)

[balmy delta]

have the physbone set to 0 pull

[royal torrent]

so I'm having an issue with my earring bone having no volume in unity (thus it doesn't swing and is kinda locked to the root ear bone). anyone know why this might be? thanks!

[royal torrent]

Fixed: made sure to export FBX to include leaf bones

[arctic sundial]

You could save yourself the bones and instead set an end point in the script

[still heart]

i forgot how to parent bones to the head tryin to make ear bones for this thing, i made bone groups for the left and right ear and put bones on them wight paint it to the bone groups but nah

i hope i post this in the right chat

[arctic sundial]

Select the armature, go to edit mode, then in the bone panel you will have "relations" section under which you can set the parent bone

[brazen island]

@still heart you want to parent ear bones to the head? using ctrl select all immediate children, then also select parent (it is bright yellow), ctrl+p, keep offsets

[still heart]

its gray tho

[brazen island]

oh, you first must merge them in one armature

ctrl+j also after selecting main armature last

[still heart]

ok

thx

i did ctl j

nothin happend tho

how do i murge

[brazen island]

object mode

[still heart]

ok

im in object mode how do i murge

sorry if im bothin yall

[arctic sundial]

ctrl + j

[still heart]

i keep tryin it dont work but thx for tryin to help anyways

yeee it works

thx

[still heart]

fixin waightpaint messups

thanks btw yall

[quiet socket]

So I want to know how I can add animations to my avatar but idk where to start or how. For example, i want some sort of techy mechanical arm that when I use a toggle, I want my arm to turn into a gun or something. How can I figure out how to do that type of stuff?

it’ll be a VRoid avi too btw

[fading verge]

Experienced riggers only, please

I've made a collar and need some help with understanding weight painting root bones. As you can see, the collar has 5 components meant to have physics applied (the collar centerpiece and the 4 strings of stars on either side).

In the video, the first bone I'm rotating is the root of the star strings which is meant to decrease the number of physbone components needed in unity. Next I rotate the neck bone and everything moves as intended because all the charms are parented to the neck as they should be. The problem comes when I rotate the head bone. I obviously can't have more than one parent for any given bone and I don't want to have to use constraints because I plan to release this asset pack for sale and want it to be as user friendly as possible.

I believe (I could be wrong) the solution is to weight paint the collar to the root and edit the weights accordingly, but I have no idea where to start on that. Does anyone have any ideas or tips?

https://vimeo.com/929010010?share=copy

[river ingot]

shouldnt it be painted to the head as it is usually weighing over the neck? The neck doesnt really need to be weight to the neck bone, mines weighed to the head bone for the most part. So maybe the necklace should be weighed with the head too?

[fading verge]

When you say necklace, do you mean the charms? Because the base of it Is weighted to the head as needed, but if I were to weight paint the dangly charms to the head it would cause very unpleasant morphing

especially with physics introduced

[hasty cloud]

i would recommend weight painting the necklace entirely to the neck bone, and avoid the head bone

[gaunt jay]

I've got a fbx where the head is tilted a bit too much down and it's very uncomfortable to use
I just want change the angle up by about 25-30 degrees
I tried just rotating the bone head in unity, but vrchat ignores it
I tried with cats plugin (apply pose as rest pose / pose to shape key), and while it works, it broke all the others blendshapes
Ex. it had a blendshape to turn on eyelashes, but they didn't get updated to the new rotation and now they're positioned incorrectly
https://i.imgur.com/lpDj2eP.png
Is there an easy way to rotate the head without breaking everything else?

[fading verge]

If I do that, it'll clip like nobody's business. With this base, avoiding weighting to the head bone is just not an option

This is a commercial project. I won't settle for something like that.

[river ingot]

okay, that came out wrong then. That does look mindbogglign when you moved the head in the video. Normally, you would have blue/green weights on the head/neck for each bone. (Head is red, with blue green on neck. Neck is red, with blue green going into the head, but not entirely into the head.) First I want to know if you did this with the weighing of the roots?

B.) You may have the roots of the charms parented to the top of the neck bone. But I think you can have them weighed to the entirety of the neck bone, or the bottom of it instead. OR C.) You can have the root bones "Connected" To the neck bone..so they have to move with the neck bone moves..otherwise they remain floating like they are, I think that might solve it too. I do that with some bones and it has better consecutive chain reactions.

[final idol]

Hi, when putting on my avatar my viewpoint seems to be far out in front of me, even though it's set up inside the head in Unity, is there a fix ?

[quiet socket]

For some reason when i try to enable an addon ive installed, i get this error and dont know how to fix it.

[uncut breach]

it most likely doesn't support Blender 4.1

[quiet socket]

is there a way i can downgrade my blender version? cause alot of useful addons keep giving me this error.

but you were right. it was a 3.0 addon

i have 4.1 currently for blender

[uncut breach]

https://download.blender.org/release/

Here's all the blender versions

you most likely will get the best support with 3.6 LTS

[quiet socket]

"Microsoft Defender SmartScreen prevented an unrecognized app from starting. Running this app might put your PC at risk"

[uncut breach]

that just means the code isn't signed and doesn't necessarily mean it's malicious

read more > run anyway

[quiet socket]

ah okay i got it and its working now, thank you!

[hasty cloud]

then maybe parent the chain bones to the neck bone

[quiet socket]

So with rigging, how do i make it so i can get like separate parts of my arm to move and not just like the elbows and fingers and stuff? i want to make it so that the top of my arm opens up, and like a little futuristic gun pops out or something, but idk how to do any of that or where to start.

kinda like this, but the gun retracts out of the arm.

[brazen island]

noone stops you from having bones other than humanoid ones, if they are children of lower arm they all will follow it, then weightpaint stuff to them, then animate their movement

[river ingot]

should be at tip of nose

[final idol]

was an import error

[fading verge]

They are

It's not the neck weighting that's a problem

It's the head weighting

Ffs I need to find a better place to ask for help -.-

[hasty cloud]

omg mb i meant the head bone XD

im so sorry lol

[fading verge]

In the video I posted there's no weighting on the root. The root is parented to the neck bone, but not connected. I'm not really sure how connecting them would change anything other than sorta screwing up the origin point of the chains' rotations. Also I'm not familiar with the ability to change the location where a bone is parented on any given bone (eg changing the parenting location from the end of a bone to the base of a bone)

Also if I were to parent the bones to the head, they would rotate with the head and not the neck

That would be pretty funky

[hasty cloud]

doesnt the necklace also rotate with the head bone..? .-.

[fading verge]

Only the base, but it does that because it won't have physics

The problem arises with the parts of it that will have physics applied

If I weight the parts that are meant to have physics to any bones other than the ones that are meant to have physics applied, it will have horrible morphing

[hasty cloud]

dont, all i suggested was to parent the chain bones (the phys bones) to the head bone

i mean have u tried at least?

[fading verge]

There's no need. But I'll go ahead and make a video showing you anyway.

https://gyazo.com/60189e0d9334b9b35a0886556030f023 here it is

[hasty cloud]

yikes yeah nope

[fading verge]

Yeah I'm stumped

I know it's possible to get this rigged properly, anything is

but I have 0 idea where to begin

[hasty cloud]

take it slow, i think the main problem is the weight painting

dont beat yourself down over weight painting, bc no one is good at it

[fading verge]

thing is, the base of the collar is fine

[hasty cloud]

well...

it is moving kinda irregularly..

for example, the weight painting is causing what i suppose are metal rings/holes to bend

[fading verge]

I mean yeah, but that was something I planned to address after figuring out the parenting issues because that is a simple weight painting issue. As for the parts that are meant to have physics applied, I know that's not weight painting. I'm thinking my only option for this might be constraints

I wanted to avoid that because this is a commercial project and I wanted it to be as user friendly as possible, but if that's that way it has to be then so be it I suppose

[hasty cloud]

i see

well best of luck!

[river ingot]

are there bones on the charms? I have earings with chains, the chains have no bones and they move freely when I move the head around bu tare still attached to the ears.

[fading verge]

yeah there are

[fading verge]

Lemme send a pic if what the armature looks like

[river ingot]

I'm working on chains hanging from the legs myself, its a similar problem.

But the ear chains work correctly and they have no bones on them..

[fading verge]

Yeah that's why I think it's a parenting issue that can really only be solved by constraints

I know if I removed the bones and weight painted accordingly, the problem would solve itself

buuuut I want physics xD

[robust crescent]

not seeing a dotted line are they connected to anything

[river ingot]

Bunch of trial and error, its the scientific way to solve the problem

[river ingot]

You can change the parenting easier using the drop down menu in "relations"

Also in that category, try out the "inherit rotation"

Along with the featured "inherit scale" with another drop down menu of customizable options

Also..there is supposed to be an "end" bone after the last bone for physbones..or there used to be.

You can also change whether its parented to the head or tail in this window on slightly different tab

[fading verge]

That is honestly really useful information

Next time I open up my project I'm gonna toy around with it a bit

[harsh dew]

anyone know why automatic weights is not doing what its supposed too? lol

not sure if showing the topology helps

[balmy delta]

that looks pretty normal for automatic weights

[harsh dew]

its never usually this bad tho

like, it cant tell which leg is which?

I move the arm, and the entire body and head moves?

like ive done something wrong with the mesh, im not sure what tho

[river ingot]

auto weights never worked for me neither

[brazen island]

use mixamo as a starting point for humanoid, autoweight usable only for lesser stuff

[honest obsidian]

Oh

Create a another duplicate of the mesh

Use remesh modifier and use voxels

And the apply modifier

And then auto weight paint the skeleton to the duplicate voxalized mesh

After that transfer the voxalized mesh to the rig

The non duplicated one

Then bam

At college rn so I cant show

@harsh dew

[slow trout]

I have the z axis facing forwards in blender for the leg's, would that be what's breaking the avi?

Here's the blender photo's

my goal is to make it so the leg's go forward when crouching a little instead of out to the side's

[harsh dew]

I shall give it a go

[lilac frigate]

I'm struggling to figure out what to do about this issue I ran into. I prefer using IK both lock as it feels the best to me, but my avatar's spine seems to squish a lot. It didn't bother me until recently when I noticed that it deforms my clothes in a strange way, and I can't figure out how to fix it. I can't seem to recreate it in blender, so I'm not sure what to do to fix it. Ideally I'm looking for a way to prevent my clothes deforming while still using both lock.

[copper halo]

Me the spine shorter i guese

[river ingot]

adjust the height, if its too tall it'll make the ava squat and maybe lean forward with legs bent

[lucid fulcrum]

How can I link their system For vrchat? I explain, I have an ammunition belt, I would like to make it dynamic. Are there any options?

[honest obsidian]

Wdym by dynamic?

Like it connects to the hand?

[lucid fulcrum]

I didn't understand

I want to add kinematics for vr chat in unity itself, so that the tape dangles when you move your hand.

Or I'm a fool and I'm doing the wrong thing...

[river ingot]

you want the belt loose when you move the gun around?

[lucid fulcrum]

yep

Until I came to a decision, I spent the whole damn day

[river ingot]

Try removing the bones on it and just weight paint it to the two ends that it's attached to. it'll move where those move etc..

[torpid burrow]

any idea on how i should weight paint this to prevent this sort of wierd warping

[pale pumice]

not sure I see the clipping?

[arctic sundial]

Do you mean the edgy/hard deformation?

[torpid burrow]

no clipping but the back end of the weight paint was bending really wierdly

dont really know why it happend

[torpid burrow]

i kinda fixxed it now

i think

[river ingot]

I've had that happen, its normal. got to play around with things a lot on blender.

[rustic fog]

So I've suddenly got this error, and I cant continue without fixing it. The issue is Im certain that the head,hands,and feet bones are mapped, as well as the upper arms. There are some risidual bones from the porting process that I should probably get rid of, but Idk if thats what is causing the issue.

[rustic fog]

Ive already tried digging through the server, I cant figure it out for the life of me. Ive tried the trick of adding and deleting a second model, tried using CATS, I cant get it to not do this.

[cobalt condor]

unless it says auto fix u should be fine

have u tried just uploading it?

[rustic fog]

It does not let you upload or test with this error

[cobalt condor]

oh

[rustic fog]

🥹

[river ingot]

u namef them wrong

[cobalt condor]

how do i fix this

i am trying upload it so i can test it out

nvm

[cobalt condor]

its bc i didn't do the expression thing, i dont know how too 😭

[river ingot]

wow..300k! thats like ultra high tech vr equipment avatar. I think you need like 32k for quest to see it max, and under 70k is something to try for. Your not the first one or the last to have one that large.

[cobalt condor]

yeah it was very messed up

[river ingot]

the expression thing is in the sdk asset folder in creators companion..

[cobalt condor]

i tried to fix it but i couldn't

[river ingot]

its usually set at default but you can drop a customized version into the slot

[cobalt condor]

someone is doing the avatar rigging for me

[river ingot]

oo..

do you got like a bunch of toggles?

[cobalt condor]

i have gogoloco and a few toggles on it

i believe i have a ss

not all of them where showing up

and not all of them were working

so yeah

[river ingot]

oo...that'll be complex to figure out. You'll have to like double check all the toggles and the whole nine yards to see where the error is. That could require learning how to make toggles the right way and or getting someone else to do it for you..

There are different creators who make youtube vids on the subject. I'd check a few different ones cause some will be out dated before 3.0 and won't function the same as the current version.

I could post up some examples of mine but I need to go to sleep early tonight 😦

[cobalt condor]

ur fine

[mental hamlet]

I added some accessories to my avatar and scaled them perfectly to my model but now when I merge armatures it rescales them to the same height like my model which is really annoying and I realized the accessories have their own "height"? I don't know how to get rid of that, any idea?

the orange lines are the floor level of the accessories which is higher than my model's

I can simply delete the lines but then it also rescales everything >.<

[mental hamlet]

nvm found it

[brazen island]

you better to just apply all transforms (ctrl+a) so your scale is also 1 1 1 on everything. it would tp origin point to 0 0 0 i believe

[gloomy bloom]

How could a set up an avatar with no Arms to take controller rotation for the hands?

[mental hamlet]

try VRC Traders discord server, you'll have more luck over there

[slow hound]

Thank you

[brazen island]

@gloomy bloom use humanoid rig anyway

[gloomy bloom]

The IK freaks out and makes the hands spin

[mental hamlet]

hello, I am using Physbones for my tail on my avatar and it looks near perfect, the only thing I am missing is a little bit of "shake" when I stop moving? the tail comes to a full halt and I wish it would still jiggle a little bit after moving, could someone help maybe? here are my settings. I have to leave the gravity at 0.6

I am trying since an hour and nothing comes even close to what I want :/

[river ingot]

woo neat, i didnt know to add colliders to the element sections, thanks!

[balmy delta]

You are looking for momentum

Set it to closer to .9 instead of .3

[mental hamlet]

okay will try it out, thank you!

[fleet knot]

Mlem

[faint lantern]

Hey, I guess I don't really understand how weight paint / rig works

I have like tried millions times on different clothes and always end with poor result / buggy, I think I don't understand something,

Is someone able to vc to like teach me what I'm missing ?

Like this is what happen, but strangely my vertex group seems to be fine ?

and the paint job seems good ?

[arctic sundial]

What makes you think the chest is the culprit? Is the weight painting copied from the body or painted manually?

[faint lantern]

copied btw they had booba bones but I deleted them + vertex group because I don't have booba

[river ingot]

I could screen share and see if I could help u figure it out, maybe sunday evening or after.

[faint lantern]

Hey sure why not feel free to dm

[safe schooner]

yo bro

[faint lantern]

?

[safe schooner]

could the rigging be the problem?

[faint lantern]

Idk I don't think so, I guess it's mostly an animation issue

[safe schooner]

ye, you think its the idle anim?

[faint lantern]

I guess

[honest niche]

ok im trying to rig a model with digi legs, do i make the bones follow the legs like this or make them flat normal human legs?

(put this in the wrong channel the first time mb)

[loud storm]

anyone know why my avatar's hands are looking like this when they look normal in the armature configuration view?

its like the finger bones are too far in the hand

they also do this weird thing in animation mode too, i am very unsure of what to do

[spice badger]

did you try to inforce the T POSE when rigging your avatar in unity ?

[fading verge]

does anybody know how to fix this ?? only the top of the sleeves move with my avi

[fair thorn]

You gotta weight paint the sleeves, too.

[fading verge]

how do I weight paint them alone ?

[fair thorn]

What do you mean by this? Are the shirt sleeves combined in the same mesh with the body?

[fading verge]

this is how the jacket came and im not sure how to weight paint the sleeves

im new to making avatars :,)

[fair thorn]

Then I don’t really think you gotta worry about the mesh part whatsoever.

Here’s a thing. Whenever you’re weight painting it, if you turn on the X mirror mode, it replicates the weight painting that is done on both sides so you can get through it faster.

I would try to give other helpful tips but I’m as just as bad at Blender. At least, that’s what I think.

[fading verge]

ohh okay thank you

[fading verge]

should I remove the armature to the hood??

[river ingot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fICQmBEt4Y

[fading verge]

I followed the weight painting tut and it still does the same thing

[river ingot]

ooo..I see..you got 2 skeletons. You need to delete the one thats still there. By the looks of it you might have more than 2..tricky.

[zealous kayak]

What if the model already has a rig

[fading verge]

The jacket comes with a skeleton.. should I delete that?

[honest niche]

ok i asked this id a dif channel but realized i should be in this one. the legs are giving me issue. in unity the pose is right, but in game one foot was off. so i was told to fix the rig to how i wanted it and when i did it did fix the stand but when i walk then stand still the legs spred weird for a second before fixing. how do i fix this?

[trim nexus]

I cant seem to click any specific bone in weight paint mode in blender, I can only get them through the vertex groups and then some are missing

trying to select these with ctrl click or shift click in 3.6 doesnt seem to work

[robust crescent]

depends on your settings , mine is right click

(blender 3.6.9 but im still using old keymaps)

[trim nexus]

yeah ive got it on shift click but it doesnt do anything it seems

actually it selects the body but no bones

[robust crescent]

you arent in pose mode, whenever im i weight paint mode that activates

[trim nexus]

is that something that you customized yourself then?

I cant seem to enter pose mode while in weight paint mode

[robust crescent]

object mode > select weight paint its now in pose mode

or select bones in edit mode, then mesh > weight paint

[trim nexus]

pose mode and weight paint mode are two seperate modes

at least in 3.6

[robust crescent]

depends what you have selected

(edit mode) bones ? it wont show weight paint, bones + mesh it will

[balmy delta]

isnt normally where you press R if I remember correctly

[trim nexus]

what is

[balmy delta]

after selecting the bone/weight paint I mean

[trim nexus]

R doesnt seem to do anything

[balmy delta]

not selecting

[trim nexus]

shift r toggles weight paint mode though

okay through assigning automatic through bones I have been able to include one more bone into the vertex group

[sweet forge]

question!!
these finger chains are made to be parented to the middle of its corresponding finger but it breaks those fingers as well, any tips on how to fix this? tysm!!

[rare moon]

It might have to do with the child order and/or the position of your finger bones in the rig config

[rustic fog]

Anyone know what might be going wrong with the thumbs here? Ive been trying to rotate the bones in blender to get them right but I just cant figure out whats going wrong

I can rotate them to proper positions in Unity, but it yells at me about the avatar not being in a T-Pose

[rustic fog]

Ok I fixed it, not really sure how, I just redid the importing process in blender and CATS and stuff

[river ingot]

Make a backup save of the file. Then, using the trick shown in the video, copy the weights from the jacket bones to the body bones, then delete the jacket bones. Or you'll have to manually weight paint it where it needs doctoring. But it shouldnt have two skeletons like that. That may be from the jacket belonging to another avatar, or as a seperate asset that was already preweighed for this intent but they didnt clean it up for you fully.

[sullen arrow]

I got a Final IK tracking question........... What if I dont want 2 legs with 4 bones each, but 10 legs and 7 bones each?

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/infinity-train/images/0/03/Tumblr_inline_ognqnm3O121reyujy_500.gif

[iron hill]

Is it possible to constraint a bone's length to another bone's rotation in pose space in unity ? I'm using it in blender as a elbow helper bone, but I don't find such a constraint in unity , I only find rotation to rotation, or scale to scale

[tepid umbra]

I'm having a minor but annoying problem: I scaled the arm bones on this avatar to match my real arms, as they were too short at all arm/height ratio settings previously. I think I got it right, but I think there's something not quite right about the shoulder. When my arms are straight up over my head, the controllers are further out than the avatar hands, and when the arms are straight down at my sides, the avatar's elbows are bent.

Does anyone have any clues from looking at this as to why that might happen, and how I can adjust it? I'm not 100% sure it's the shoulder, but as far as I can tell the arms reach the same spot spot at the hips (when they're correctly extended in posing) as mine do irl.

Adjusting the arm/height ratio only straightens the elbows but at expense of the controllers getting further out over my head, or gets them in my hands over my head but makes the elbows more bent when my hands are at my sides, so I'm pretty sure I've got that right.

[balmy delta]

itd be your view point height

[tepid umbra]

is it that it's incorrect with respect to the shoulders?

[balmy delta]

well you irl do not have the proportions of a furry deer so stuff like where your hands are will be off

one being where the view point is because it doesnt stretch the distance of your tracking points

if you lowered the view point it would for the most part fix the hand issues but now also cause your view point to be off relative to the avatar's face

its generally a balancing act with stuff like this

[robust crescent]

id straighten that arm , see if theres any difference

also this world you can look at your bones https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_01025423-c339-4735-8af9-ba45cc9e46f2

[tepid umbra]

oh damn that looks useful as hell, thanks

[manic marsh]

Can't really add more bones because how the ik system on spiders works but you could probably have a normal spider setup that is just the bones and then use that to drive longer ik chains

[dusk fractal]

is this bad?

[mint solar]

am I able to use an existing rigged model to rig one that isn't?

[river ingot]

looks like your dino has some weight paint issues. I'm also suffering a problem with my avis hand that i cant seem to fix so hopefully it may be a system thing and not our fault at all.

[dusk fractal]

does it have to be humanoid? because my model isnt humanoid

[brazen island]

@dusk fractal unity avatars are supposed to be humanoid, since their whole point is to play generic animations on any human-ish model, otherwise youre in a funny world of making your own animation controllers

with generic rig you can do almost anything (without fbt/vr), just with how much effort compared to humanoid?

@mint solar what? you can reuse an armature but autoweighting kinda bad for the whole model. if you need to rig smth, start with mixamo, then do manually other things (physics stuff etc)

[dusk fractal]

so your saying is that i should stay in generic rig?

[brazen island]

if youre desktop user and you already have all the animations (ie its game rip or smth), yes.

tho its still plenty of work to make it run around etc

[mint solar]

oh ok, thx

[dusk fractal]

so humanoid rig is for with vr headset and generic is for avatars that is for pc users?

[mint solar]

I made a new rig and whatnot, but whenever I try to attatch it with automatic weights it doesn't work

[brazen island]

humanoid if for what at least reminds of a human, generic is for chairs, four legged cats, headcrabs etc. you can rig dino to a humanoid, it wont be 1:1 but its doable

[dusk fractal]

have you applied all transforms to the armature? or model?

[dusk fractal]

so would be recomended for me to use generic?

[brazen island]

i have no idea what your model is.

[mint solar]

idk

[dusk fractal]

select the armature and press ctrl + a and select all transforms

[brazen island]

@mint solar use mixamo , it will give you decent vr capable rig

[mint solar]

ok

[brazen island]

also i used f4 model and it worked fine without rerigging iirc so why even do this?

[mint solar]

I got it from sketchfab and it didn't come rigged

[mint solar]

it won't let me upload it to mixamo...

it keeps on saying this

[brazen island]

youre supposed to remove whatever aramture you already have

should be just mesh

[mint solar]

it was

I managed to get it to be able to be rigged

[mild temple]

How can i fix my fix my rig?
I forgor to apply mirror modifier before the weight painting, so now every bone on the left side, has weights on both left and right sides

[robust crescent]

either remove weightpaint manually , or seperate ear temporary and remove the vertex group (does that work ? - tested yes)

[crimson kernel]

Good lord.. I don't wanna rerig this-

is there a way I can just yk put them together?

[rare moon]

merge the bones?

https://github.com/vr-voyage/blender_bones_merger

[crimson kernel]

let me try it out..

I'm unable to locate the option to merge

[rare moon]

in edit mode, right click

[crimson kernel]

what is this about

I'm going to start over very fast

[rare moon]

this means your vertex groups aren't named correctly

[burnt nebula]

Is it possible to have an avatar with two armatures, each armature with its corresponding skinned mesh?

[balmy delta]

thatd just double the amount of bones but sure

only 1 of the armatures will be the humanoid bones

[burnt nebula]

can I stop controlling one armature to start controlling the other with action layers?

changing the unity-avatar config? (maybe this is not needed?)

[balmy delta]

no

you cant change what armature you are controlling

however using constraints you can constrain an armature to the humanoid one BUT that is pc only and really jank

[burnt nebula]

so, if there is a second armature, I will have to animate it bone by bone?

like a horse for example

or a dragon

[balmy delta]

its never going to work how you are wanting to

[brazen island]

both vrc ik or unity avatars are meant to run bipedal humanoids only. if you manage to get one nonhumanoid avatar run in a desirable way, it is possible to merge it with a humanoid one for sure. if you have no idea where and how to source an animations of a horse or a dragon or you want them to properly follow hand controllers, reconsider.

[burnt nebula]

I don't want the animal to be controlled by tracking but just to have some locomotion animation and maybe, to follow the head for orientation.

[brazen island]

head - constraints ie pc only. whole body - shouldnt be a problem

well, following root in vr

not head

[river ingot]

A few months ago there was a thing to have 2 armatures, one mirrored the other one and they were both different colored meshes.

[solid panther]

oops wrong chat mb

[low otter]

guys, how much joint bones i can add maximum on a vr character?

[wheat surge]

do I need wing bones If they are opened by blendshape?

[devout epoch]

Bones and blendshape are just different ways to animate something. Both have their pros and cons, but they also have specific uses as well. So it just depends on what your trying to accomplish.

[wheat surge]

gotcha

[thorn quiver]

hey was merging a hair onto an avatar and its doing this any idea how to fix?

[devout epoch]

It's not in the collection, just drag and drop it on

[fading verge]

Okay I have found like no tutorials how do I rig a phys bone onto something, do I just straight up put bones where I want phys bones to be or do I have to install that wiggle plugin

[river ingot]

yah, you have to extrude a bone, deconnect it from the parent, then weight paint it onto the mesh that you want it controlling.

[fading verge]

Ok thanks man

[honest niche]

ive realized i asked in the wrong channel again. what would be the best way to rig these legs?

[sterile whale]

So i have this cloak model, and i want to rig it. or atleast give some kind of physics to it. Whats the easiest way to do so?

[river ingot]

delete all meshes underneath it so it wont clip.

[sour hare]

Deselect them, drag the non grey one into the grey one

[wheat surge]

Do I need to setup IK in blender or will VRChat make it automatically?

[fallen whale]

VRChat will do it, just make sure you have the necessary bones.

[wheat surge]

thanks!

[hearty slate]

hey! i'm trying to attach a piece of clothing to a rigged avatar, i've mostly gotten it to work. in some poses it stays attached and in the right place during, but in some other poses it goes off-center and weird. any ideas? are there specific offsets for certain poses?

(i'm using poses from GoGoLoco)

[dapper crescent]

Are you attaching the clothing in blender then bringing it to unity to test poses? Or solely unity

[honest niche]

ok so im editing this model to make it into a oc of mine (havent done textures yet) but for some reason in game this single strand of hair is just floating off by the head even tho its weight painted right and right in unity. any ideas on how to fix this??

[river ingot]

delete the vertex group of the bone, then reweight paint it

[idle cape]

this is very late haha. hopefully it still helps!! i found that the way that worked best for me for this kind of shape was to set the knee joint at the first joint on the leg, and then just put the foot joint all the way down, so the calf bone is perpendicular to the ground. then i move the toe part of the foot bone to the front of the foot. this is what worked for me! i wish you luck!!

my turn for a question! :) does anyone have any idea what the best way to rig a set of wings for a vrchat avatar is, without using a million and a half physbones? XD

[honest niche]

omg ok ill try that next time for sure ty!

ok i can help with that question! so look at ur arm, make the bones as u would for the arm then add like 1-3 bones for the long feathers at the end if u wanna give it little more of a wiggle

i like adding 3 cuz i like the wiggle

[idle cape]

cool! do you usually have the feathers as separate pieces, or are they all connected in the mesh?

idk if that question made sense haha. i have set up my model with each feather as a separate mesh for now, and intend to join them all together into one mesh after they have been individually rigged. its not working so great atm 😅

[honest niche]

i like doing them sep personally but i guess it depends on the style u want to go for

[idle cape]

yeah, that makes sense! ill do some more messing around. glad to know im at least heading in the right direction! thanks so much!!

[honest niche]

OK NEW ISSUE!! at some point along the way i had messed up the expressions and now it only works on the lashes. the animation is still right and the blenshapes on the face still work in both unity and blender

it all looks right to me??? why did it break if i wasnt even messing with that only weight paints

fixed it never mind!

[waxen sapphire]

Hello! I'm new here and am actually looking for someone to help me rig and texture my avatar

[balmy delta]

you dont ask for commissions here
go to vrctraders

[waxen sapphire]

Okay

[fading widget]

How tf do bones work??

[tawdry meteor]

Herro Happy VRC friends! I think rigging is the right place for this... I'm looking for a bit of advice around.. foot rigging! In fbt, when I roll my feet a bit, the avi's foot looks like the pics.. Is this normal? ... Do I need to shorten the legs a bit to better match my tracker locations?...or a bit of weight paintin? Anyone know if there's any way to optimize this to look better, or am I just being too picky?

[river ingot]

you could A.) in Vrchat theres an option to change the height which u could try. b.) if you try to move your foot in the way your doing in the vid, its impossible. so you could either add constraints to it in unity in the bone rigging section to disable your foot from being able to move like that. or C.) weight paint it differently.

[livid vault]

I unfortunately bought a model with not so good weightpainting, what could be causing this issue? because i've been trying to paint it in so many ways but the upper arm still clips with the sweater when i twist the arm.

[balmy delta]

weight paint it better

the sweater isnt influenced by the arms enough in the shoulders

[tawdry meteor]

I didn't know you could add constraints in unity! I'm not sure the correct way to weight paint it better, so the constraints sound like a great option, thanks!

[livid vault]

The problem with that is, if i add weights from the shoulder bones, it makes it worse 😛

and if you mean it by adding more weight to the highest point in the upper arm, it's full on red.

[balmy delta]

Other bones can share weights to something

[river ingot]

could add constraints so the shoulder wont twist..

technically all you can twist are the elbows and beyond

[livid vault]

how do i add constraints? This is new territory for me when it comes to weight painting

[river ingot]

in unity, under the rigging section, there's a secont tab up top for the muscles etc..

it solve sa lot of problems..

[livid vault]

ooooh, i have to give that a look, thanks a lot for the tip! ❤️

[river ingot]

yah, it was a real problem solver for me when i was figuring out the shoulders too

[gloomy bloom]

Help
The other digits have the same bone Rotation
The other hand is mirrored and is completely fine

[tawdry meteor]

Is there a way to test it in unity? It seems like you just lower the range, but I'm not sure how to test whether its working?

[river ingot]

yah, theres the slider bar for the different bone angles. You can slide it and it'll show what it does in the avatar window at the top with a gemoetric angle showing what your controlling etc. If you need a vid i can make a short one.

[river ingot]

that could be an idle proxy fix...one hand is in a fist maybe, the other is in idle/stretched out. not sure what your proxies are fixed at. but you can change them via the locomotion/gesture drop ins on the descriptor and edit the finger positionings that route..

[gloomy bloom]

Is like that in Editor when I do Inforce T Pose

[gloomy bloom]

I just found what's wrong
The Index is the Thumb and the Thumb is the Index

It's all labeled in Chinese that I can read so I didn't know

[obtuse spire]

my hands after I hit a counter while playing vrchat

[tawdry meteor]

Last question from me XD. Is this overridden when using FBT? I lowered the contraints, but it didn't seem to do anything.

[river ingot]

Technicaly I'm not sure. Constraints are popular to use in blender, but they don't transfer over to unity so you have to do it in that rigging section. I haven't really tested it out completely But It seemed to have fixed the shoulders for me. You may need to edit your weightpainting too.

I think I'd just lower the weightpaint from the lower leg and into the foot so it won't bend where the bones meet at. I did try the bone in unity via the rig section, and they didn't have a constraint for the angle your having problems with.

You could also lower the trackers and put them on the top of your feet.

Ive seen them also on the side at the anklebone.

[vale kettle]

so weird issue, its hard to explain, but for some reason my avi i just finished acts as if its always in fbt spine lock hips mode, and it doesnt matter what i do its always like that. and the weird thing is ive used and worked on tons of avis with the same base and they have never done it, but this one does and its weird, when i stand up straight then move my head down the avuis head stays in place but mine moves till i start leaning foward, its very odd to me, the avi base is a deira (alt version aka maruchi hands) if that help

[dusk veldt]

my avatar started having this weird problem where its head tilts to the side and its neck kind of twists with the body when walking sideways, after I added blend trees to toggle 'flight mode' animations with a parameter. i have a parent constraint rooted on the head for a flight platform toggled on during flight, but it shouldn't move the head when its turned off. what should I do

[nova shard]

the video doesnt quite show it all that well but it could be a case of phybones on the head not excluding the head bone possibly?

[ornate scarab]

When rigging a basic jiggle bone pair, do you weight paint to the first or last bone?

I've got the last bone painted but idk if that's right

[river ingot]

the last bone is for programming, it doesnt require weight painting.

[ornate scarab]

oh so the paint should be on the first bone?

[robust crescent]

whenever i see those end bones, i remove em (or merge them to parent - incase they have a tiny weightpaitning ) , you dont need em to use physbone - endpoint act the same way

[turbid valve]

Hi guys, I am trying to create a full body rig avatar please let me know ways to implement that. I am using OVR so please suggest me ways to implement using that

[dusk veldt]

I’ll look into that. Thanks

[river ingot]

yessir. as Thulen was saying, you can delete that last bone if you want to. If you got the settings set the right way it'll automaticaly create an end bone when you export I think. You could actually, Copy the vertices for the end bone and paste them onto the first bone so you dont have to weight paint it all over again etc.

[ornate scarab]

yeah I just renamed the vertex group so it transferred the paint over

[turbid valve]

Hi guys, I am trying to create a full body rig avatar please let me know ways to implement that. I am using OVR so please suggest me ways to implement using that
Can someone help me with this

[balmy delta]

A full body rig is just a humanoid rig

Also ovr wouldnt be impemented into avatars at all

[turbid valve]

No I want to the avatar to move his head legs and hand when I move in real

[balmy delta]

Then thats full body tracking
Unrelated to avatars

[frank osprey]

Hey guys! just wanna know if there's any resources for Full body VR using Meta XR in Unity. Anyone help :(?

[copper halo]

yes... thats just a normal humanoid avatar

[grand dome]

I'm been trying to figure out how this person animated their OC's eyelids in blender. https://twittervx.com/Tr0xaz/status/1740201915470975436/video/1

If anyone could help, that would be awesome.

Getting the shutter eye open is one thing, but trying to make it move around and make sure it keeps a consistent shape is what I'm trying to figure out.

[balmy delta]

think of it like how an actual shutter works

[grand dome]

What do you mean?

[balmy delta]

so for one thing

a shutter moves by rotating triangles not shifting like how you are trying to

[grand dome]

I got that, but that doesn't really help me understand how I would get the open part to move around and not split up/merge into other panels.

[balmy delta]

panels are stacks on top of each other
which you just rotate each triangle or slide the entire triangle based on where you want the opening

[grand dome]

Oh, so it's layered on top of one another?

[balmy delta]

an aperture shutter works by rotating very thin triangles on top of each other

in order for it to move to the sides

it needs to either rotate each triangle (like move it to the left you rotate the left side out and the right side in) or just slide the entire mechanism

moving the entire thing would be easier

[grand dome]

Problem is that I'm trying to work with a specific stylized model, and there isn't really space to move the entire mechanism around unfortunately

[balmy delta]

you can fit the entire thing onto a sphere

[balmy delta]

this specifically isnt entirely a model

or if it is is just blendshapes that face the look

[civic elm]

Question for those who weight paint

VRChat only allows a maximum of 4 groups per bone

I've having a lot of problems working with this

I can go into blender and "limit the total" but when I go to make my changes and fix the weight painting it causes the problems again

Is it possible to always limit weights in blender?

This way I can work with the limit in place

[wheat surge]

Hi! Does anyone know why my bones in unity are messed up? I used youtube tutorial from Kaideart to make digitigrade legs, and in blender bones are parallel, but when I setup it in Unity it messes up. On tutorial they didn't do so. All scale applied in blender (unless I should somehow apply scale/transform on bones too). I resized avatar in blender and reimported it, but applied scale and did "non/human" unity ritual.

[rare moon]

Try in configure going to pose>reset. If that doesn't work, you can pose the bones yourself in the configure settings

[sturdy pond]

is this [https://ask.vrchat.com/t/future-of-final-ik/22492] forum post correct? do i need to find a finalIK 1.9 download to get stuff to work in vrc?

[sturdy pond]

yeah im talkin to the VRLabs folks rn, it must be 1.9

VRC should really list that in the docs somewhere, bit of a shitty thing to try to figure out as an end user

cause right now it's just a quote of the tagline for FinalIK

https://creators.vrchat.com/worlds/supported-assets/#final-ik

ah, that can apparently be done if your fork the docs. time to go make a PR

[wheat surge]

thanks, that did it, but ruined T-pose. But atleast now I see where the problem lies - I modeled this avatar in A-pose, and Unity is touchy about it. I guess easiest way would be to make it T-pose in blender and reimport

[rare moon]

Then enforce tpose

Same menu

Pose>enforce tpose

[wheat surge]

Yeah, tried that, didn't work, messed up with leg bones again, so I just posed it in blender and reimported

now works okayish, next time will definitely sculpt in T-pose

maybe even will remodel tshirt when I have will to do so, cause now it looks shitty with arms up

anyways, thanks for help!

[main ore]

anyone know how to rig a r6 blocky roblox avatar 🥺

[patent elk]

Anyone know why when I try to export a blender file from blender as a vrm file why the bones don’t line up correctly

[main ore]

hi commisioners send me a friend request and a message request pls

[devout epoch]

I very much don't recommend doing this. A ton of people get scammed through these very methods. Try VRCTraders in #1204490664637890580 . They are more reliable and less likely to have scammers.

[patent elk]

Can someone help me fix this

[river ingot]

The wrist and forearm bone could be connected to solve it. it'll keep them attached at least.

[patent elk]

How do I do that? I’m new at rigging

[river ingot]

Right there..

[patent elk]

Thank you

[river ingot]

👍

[patent elk]

Is that in blender?

[river ingot]

yessir

[patent elk]

Thank you again

[river ingot]

you can ask anytime on here, theres all numbers of people who'll help.

[patent elk]

May I ask you what to do now

[river ingot]

Ah, click on the wrist bone, 2.) click on the relations tab in that bottom right window. 3.) choose the forearm or whatever bone your connecting the wrist to. 4.) click the 'connected" button so its on. 5.) If you haven't already, you should drag the wrist bone and all parts of it to the forearm bone where it should be. Maybe it needs to be put in T-pose mode too..thats usually required for unity

[patent elk]

Thank you, how do I t pose in blender? Sorry for all the questions lol

[zenith olive]

im not sure what happened here im so new to blender and well unity i learned already but im not sure how to fix this

[brazen island]

probably missing/wrongly named vertex group for toe, check weight painting

[river ingot]

If you add-on the "cats plugin" it has a pose mode that makes it easier to turn on and off. Otherwise theres a default one on blender.

[obtuse spire]

long toe alert!

[main ore]

any commisioners? dm/friend req me

[balmy delta]

Go to vrctraders and ask there

You will only get scammers here

[obtuse spire]

(all of which have horrible grammar for some reason)

[orchid cloud]

Greetings! I'm currently building an Avatar from the ground up for someone and I have a question about animations:
Is it possible to have in-between animations?
Such as; You toggle the Avatar to sit down, but instead of instantly snapping to the sit-down pose it plays a sit-down animation first.

Huh... is this the right place to ask such a question, or would Avatar Help be more appropriate?

[balmy delta]

its technically possible but youd need to set it up to do so

youd just add another animation in between the different states

well 2 animations

one for down and one for up

itd work very weird in vr tho since its not an instant movement

[orchid cloud]

I would just play the sit-down animation in reverse.

[balmy delta]

youd need a second animation state either way

one playing forward the other playing backwards

[orchid cloud]

Right. This can be done with custom animation trees? I'm pretty new to Unity.

[balmy delta]

sure

the default looks like this

[orchid cloud]

Hah, looks very similar to Godot.

[balmy delta]

youd make it this instead

I would also add one for standing to prone tho so it also has ones for that so you dont have to go through 2 transitions

[orchid cloud]

Yeah, as soon as I saw the picture of the animation tree and paths I knew it'd probably be something like this. Very similar to Godot.
So, exporting a character as an FBX file from Blender and then importing the asset into Unity will have the animations/actions exported with it? So this will make them selectable in the animation tree?

[balmy delta]

well youd have the animations but youd need to extract them or make duplicates of them to use them

since the animator layers are done in unity

[orchid cloud]

Right. I'll have to figure out how to do that. At least I know it's possible now.

[balmy delta]

just look at the default transitions and copy them

[patent elk]

Thank you so much for all your help you saved me money, someone was trying to get 100 dollars from me just for them to rig it 😓

[balmy delta]

but with exit time or transition duration

exit time will delay how the transition so you cant just instantly do the next animation
changing the transition duration will let you instantly go to the next transition effectively skipping to the next animation

[patent elk]

I know a tutorial video on this that helped me

[orchid cloud]

Post away. I'll take anything that helps.

[patent elk]

https://youtu.be/XqtSg6_W07Y?si=8NH8QXlzyNQb_9l6 this helped me learn how to use the toggle system

[orchid cloud]

Thank you, both of you. ^^

[patent elk]

Of course we are happy to help

[dusk veldt]

it's like the fifth time I've had to relearn how to export an fbx from blender, since every time i forget how it works and end up with a faceplanting avatar in unity. My guess is I messed up the armature parenting. any ideas?

Didn't have this symbol before, what does this mean

[arctic sundial]

https://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/27282/what-does-this-icon-mean

[blissful island]

This popped up when I tried to generate a humanoid rig on my kitavali, does anyone know what smoothing groups are and how I can fix this?

[honest niche]

idk where to ask this, but im trying to make clothes for a avi and pressed a button and now the mesh looks like this?? what does it mean and how do i put it back?

[pale pumice]

Probably just enable "legacy blendshape normals" in the model settings (first tab) and otherwise ignore it.

[pale pumice]

can you not undo? It's hard to see what happened without seeing the previous sate

[honest niche]

I've tried undoing it. It only messes with the messhes I've edited and not whatever the heck happened

[river ingot]

are you referring to the bottom pieces sticking out?

[honest niche]

Nope so u know how normally everything is just a mat gray? The chest/shirt bit is like a metallic almost gray and idk how or why

[river ingot]

There are 4 spheres at the top right of that window which changes the mesh appearance. B.) If you click on a seperate mesh, the unclicked on meshes will be a different shade/color while in an edit mode. c.) there could be other buttons you could press or unpress to see if it'll change it back, trial and error till you find out what button it was. Just save it before hand incase you do something to make it worse.

[honest niche]

omg that worked. and yea i need to find the button

[lunar tangle]

no idea what this means

Nvm Fixed it, Apparently if you name a Mesh "head" it confuses Unity

[honest niche]

again idk where to post this, but even with symatry tool on it fucks up the other side??? idk how to explain this other then it just doesnt pull all the dots like it does to the side im working on

[obtuse spire]

ifk but that model looks cool

idk*

[river ingot]

would need a screenshot of the top right corner of that window with all the mirroring buttons on it

[river ingot]

nothing different than whats on mien

[honest niche]

I was able to finish the avi with the weird whatever it was doing. I'm working on a new model now, how would I go about making the 2nd pair of arms to move for pc? I haven't gotten to that part yet, still modeling. But I haven't the slightest clue on how people make them work lol

[pale pumice]

You rig them the same way as the primary set, and in Unity, use rotation constraints so they mirror the other arm.

[knotty mural]

are you excited for constraints on quest i know i am (i only have one avatar that will probably use them if i ever get the inspiration to do that)

[honest niche]

Rotation constraints? Where would that be in unity?

Wait they are coming to quest???? Omg that's so exciting!

[pale pumice]

I'm excited for constraints that work in local orientation vs. only world space

[pale pumice]

they're just another component: https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/class-RotationConstraint.html

[honest niche]

Oh! Omg ty!

[honest niche]

i dont want to use too many bones for the hair, do u guys think this would work ok?

how im thinking of weightpainting it

[balmy delta]

you could do it in 3 but it good

[hasty cloud]

fuck yes, its about time they add rotation constraints for quest lol

[atomic harness]

how do you rig the inside of the mouth? how you paint it?

[river ingot]

Thats a blendshape deal, mine was painted to the head entirely.

[burnt flame]

I'm working on my first model, just to see if this is something I can feasibly do, so it's fairly simple. About to start rigging today, and I wanted to know if I'm meant to rig my physbones in Blender, and if I can like, mark them as physbones in Unity or something, or if they get added in Unity or what. This is all very new to me and I'm teaching myself, and haven't gotten to the Unity side of stuff yet, so this might be a very ??? question, but I don't want to add a bunch of bones and ruin the model or something... ^^;

[river ingot]

The physbone programming is done in unity. You can make the bones for them in blender. You assign the bones as physbones in unity. As well as colliding bones.

[burnt flame]

Alright, thank you.
Can physbones have animations, too?
My model has wings, which I'd like to give a little animation, but I also think it'd be cute if they could be bumped around a bit and stuff.

[honest niche]

asking this here instead

ok so im making a angel dust avatar. i want to make a toggle for the gloves on the second pair of arms so u can have the gloves on or off, but i also want to make a toggle to remove the second arms. how would i go about making a toggle that disables to gloves if the second arms arent active? cuz at the moment i have a toggle for both separately which is kinda annoying.i hope that makes sense

[opal bluff]

how to you rig digitigrade legs? im making an avatar with them and i realized its probably not as simple as id think. youtube tutorials are a bit confusing too

[weak thorn]

Hi is there an up to date video tutorial on how to create and rig a model then upload it to vrc from start to finish?

[pale pumice]

I usually reference this: https://www.furaffinity.net/view/44035707/

[hasty cloud]

in the animator, select the animation that turns off the arms and add the "VRCAvatarParameterDriver" behavior. Then, click "add" under debug string, set the destination to the parameter of your gloves, and set the value to whatever makes your gloves turn off

[broken matrix]

Does anyone have any recommendations for rigging a hood on a hoodie so that it can be up and down, but still properly move with my head? As far as I understand, if I weight paint it to the head (for when it is up) it will still move with the head, even if I make a shapekey for it to fold down behind me. I thought that weight painting it to bones that I set up with physbones could work and I could pose/snap it with constraints in unity, but the weight painting seems like it would cause the hood to move a bit odd if I did it that way. So I wanted to ask if anyone has rigged a moveable hood and would have any advice for going about doing that.

[river ingot]

a toggle. Make two hoodie versions, one up, one down, and you can have them interchangeable through the toggle menu.

[broken matrix]

I'm trying to keep the avatar optimized as it's medium right now and if I had two different versions I would end up over 70k polygons.

[river ingot]

just for the hoodie, not the entire sweater, just the hood part

[broken matrix]

Oh, I see what you mean. I was hoping to make it interactable for others, so I've been messing with rigging the hood with bones to see if I can get nice movement so I can use physbones with it.

I might use that as a fallback plan if I can't get anything else to work though

[rare moon]

you could use a proxy physbone attached to your chest to move it and have an animation that affects the weights for the sources on rotation constraints between the chest and head/neck?

so duplicate the neck and headbones and weight paint to that instead. If you've already done your weight painting, just seperate the hoodie object and change the names of the neck and head vertex groups to match the new bones

then you can join it again

and then also make a physbone the goes in the direction that you want to grab from and either use stretch or squish parameters to determine how far pulled it is then use motion time on an animation that controls the constraints

[broken matrix]

I'm kind of doing something like this at the moment. I made a set of bones attached to my neck (should change it to my chest in hindsight) that I have the lower part of the hood weighted to so that when it folds back it looks clean and then I have a single bone with the rest of the upper hood weighted to it at the moment. But I'm finding that (with the hobkin head being so big) I think i'll need a couple bones for the top so that I can fold it in on itself a bit to make it look better.

[rare moon]

alright i'm glad you're figuring it out ^^

[broken matrix]

Thank ya! It's interesting to mess with since I haven't done anything like it before haha.

[soft belfry]

Hi I do have a model with this armature and somehow in tracking when I seat instead of sitting the model crouches. I´ve been unable to identify the problem.

Supposedely is something here in the legs but I dunno what

[valid canopy]

That sounds like a Unity issue rather
If the model is crouching instead of sitting, that is a Sitting layer issue

[balmy delta]

The rig has nothing to do with animation

[soft belfry]

Thanks for the feedback Diven and @valid canopy

[dusk veldt]

how do i rig an avatar such that some parts will move along with the bones, but no deform with the bones, for something like armour? thanks

[balmy delta]

Weightpaint in the entirety of the panel

Like make the entire panel share identical weights

Rather than each vertice having different weights

[dusk veldt]

ah ok

[ruby anvil]

I downloaded this avatar online and I really want to use it for the game. Should I fix the bones or should I start from zero?

Also out of curiosity, since his model has texture instead of the standard face rigging, how should I set up the visemes?

Also, I'm sorry if this isn't the right terminology, I'm new to most controls on 3d programs

[balmy delta]

youd have an easier time using sprite sheets

[fading verge]

anyone know how to separate the eye texture from a face mesh?

[ruby anvil]

This is my first time trying to do something like this so I can't answer that 😭

But I did end up finding a solution for the joints so I'm happy

[umbral summit]

dumb question, but is the end bone for the neck required? i only see an end bone being used if there's a dynamic bone or physbone being used on a neck.

[brazen island]

what. neck ends up with head

[umbral summit]

the base i have, has a neck bone, then neck end bone.

[brazen island]

neck end bone=head

[umbral summit]

this is what id assume, however this base has a neck end bone without a head.

[brazen island]

well it doesnt matter to unity what you call it. its still considers next bone after neck to be head

you must have at least hips-spine-chest-neck-head for humanoid

[umbral summit]

yes, im just headswapping so im going to use the head as the next child bone.

[brazen island]

no you cannot

oh wait you can

since head is the last one so it wont matter

[umbral summit]

ye

[brazen island]

but unity will be considering neck-end or whatever to be the head. maybe would affect auto generated contacts or smth

[umbral summit]

we will find out, im mainly just using this as a learning curve so whether something breaks or not then it wont bother me.

[river ingot]

from the face mesh picture? You can edit the photo/texture image and or crop them apart. Then paste what you want in their place. You can also use UVwrap to adjust the eye to a new texture as necessary.

[river ingot]

visemes won't be necessary unless you really want the lips to move when you speak. Then you'll need to work on blendshapes.

[river ingot]

Bones should be up and down, not sticking out forward like yours are

[ruby anvil]

This is so helpful, I’ll look into this! Thank you so much!

[ruby anvil]

I figured 😭 the model I downloaded came like that automatically but I ended up figuring out a solution for the bones to be properly aligned

[radiant carbon]

I understand you can configure the shape, size and position for PhysBone collider components, but is it possible to do so for the collision of the PhysBones themselves? It seems it’s only possible to configure the radius of the collision and nothing else. I’m trying to configure my avatar with PhysBones but I’m having difficulty with the collision aspect since I am unable to reposition it. I do not want to redo my entire armature for this unless strictly necessary.

Apologies in advance for the confusion. 🙏

[brazen island]

you can only set radius and curve to scale it inbetween joints

[river ingot]

I think theres an option to choose which bones it will collide with, Ive seen someone post a screenshot of it before..im still figuring out how to make mine work the right way myself..

are you asking if one physbone can be an element to collide with another physbone?

I can't even get my sdk to work right now let alone the collider elements to show up under the collider drop down menu..this software is kind of shitty.

[radiant carbon]

What I’m wondering is if it’s possible to change the position of the PhysBone’s OWN collision so that it better fits the mesh’s shape. Whenever I configured the collision it either stuck out too far from the mesh itself or was too far inward to act reasonably as collision.

I’m sorry, it’s hard to explain but I’ll send screenshots when I get the chance.

[river ingot]

the radius?

you can adjust the radius to do that.There's also versions of the radius so its different shapes..

[rare moon]

you don't need end bones (leaf bones) in most situations, even with physbones. for physbones you can just use endpoints on the physbone component. This is more optimized anyways. The only situations in which you need end bones is if you 1) need different lengths of bones at the end of chains which are on the same physbone component or 2) you need to have something weight painted to the end bone (like for stretch)

[radiant carbon]

Just an update, I might’ve found a workaround to my issue. I duplicated the bone I wanted to attach the PhysBone component to, put it into the correct position, removed the original’s PhysBone and put one on the duplicate, parented the duplicate to the original and set the root bone to the original.

It seems to work in Unity but I have yet to try it out in VRChat. Wish me luck 😬

[radiant carbon]

Never mind, I just put the PhysBone on the end bone and it seems to work better. No duplicate necessary.

[rare moon]

Use physbone curves?

[radiant carbon]

Yep! I used them to reduce the radius of the root bone’s collider to 0 while allowing the leaf bones’ position (and therefore the collider position) to be edited.

[atomic harness]

i don't think you have been answered, one way you can do it is giving the eyes a different material. by selecting the eyes in blender and applying a new material.

[rare moon]

Oh btw you don't need leaf bones if you don't have anything weightpainted to them. Just use endpoints. Then you can also adjust the position in unity.

[radiant carbon]

Thanks for the tips! I managed to figure it out and it looks like it’s working just fine!

[steady eagle]

Greetings, I need some help with a Gordon Freeman avatar I'm making. The model has already been riggred properly before and, and I needed to fix it for VRChat, stangly. Once I click apply, and then done. The model reverts to its "Pre-fixed state" as I call it.

[astral scaffold]

I didn't see this answered so, yes! just make sure the "is animated" check box is ticked on your physbone, I figured this out because i wanted the wings on my avi to be able to fold up instead of just a boring toggle

[steady eagle]

Forgot to add this

[astral scaffold]

Rename your mesh, it can't have the same name as your bone (spine, neck, head, etc...)

[steady eagle]

I just did that and it keeps reverting back to "head"

Is it with the actual model itself, or just when I import it into unity?

[astral scaffold]

I've only had this error once, and i renamed the mesh in blender and reimported into unity and that solved it

[burnt flame]

Yeah, I got it figured out once I started actually messing around in Unity, but thank you~!

[marble echo]

hey does anyone know how to put bone poses in shape keys? like have a bone move in a blendshape/shapekey

[nova shard]

when getting an avatar to use a humanoid rig does it require the optional bones to be rigged up aswell? (fingers,toes,upper chest etc)

[brazen island]

only in unity animation.

[brazen island]

neck despite being optional in unity is required by vrc afaik, otherwise no.

[unreal sluice]

Question, Is A-pose a valid starting pose for rigging in Unity?

[robust crescent]

rigging in unity? does not compute humanoid in unity works with A or T

[unreal sluice]

Oh!

That's what I meant, sorry I'm still learning terminology

I'm learning to use the companion thing

[copper rover]

I am looking to rotate 2 different bones. They live in different location but I would like to rotate them on their own axis. If I parent them then the child would rotate on the parent's axis, which isn't what I want.

Essentially, I would like hands and the hands should mirror in their behaviour. Is this doable without using rotation constraints?

[fading verge]

Um unity is giving me the error: the angle between the pelvis and thigh bones should be close to 180 degrees (this avatars angle is 0.0) your avatar may not work well with with full body IK and tracking can somebody tell me how to fix this?

[nova shard]

if its yellow it can be ignored

[robust crescent]

Likely did a vrm convert in unity (euw)

[civic elm]

Is there a better version of cats blender plugin?

[river ingot]

what version are you using?

[meager zealot]

any idea how to fix this error?

[balmy delta]

You have something else also named that

[meager zealot]

all the names are unique :(

ah, i had a mesh with the same name oops

[civic elm]

dev build

[rare moon]

For hand tracking or index? Not without constraints. For any other controllers, yes. Just have your animations be mirrored. Idk exactly how you want it to be set up, that's up to you. Just edit your gesture controller.

[dapper path]

Any idea what it could be? Its a humanoid rigid body

[mortal mauve]

Hello! I am very new to VRchat. (i.e. haven't played the game. don't even have a headset yet)

So I have a model I'm working on and he's got these claw feet, and I was wondering what I should do for them. Ideally I want them to open and close with only one or two bones. I was told that usually for Unity you want to have a single mesh. I was going to use drivers and shapekeys for this, but apparently drivers don't translate to Unity. Of course I could just rig every single claw on the feet, but I'd like to avoid that if possible.

Any suggestions?

[balmy delta]

just use blendshapes if you dont want to use bones

you can do it entirely with 1 blendshape

[mortal mauve]

ty!

[burnt flame]

If I set a single bone as the root of a physbone for hair, and then have multiple chains of bones off it, can they all be manipulated independently of each other, or will they all move at once?

[balmy delta]

they are all independent but only one can be grabbed at a time

[rare moon]

Unrelated, but play the game. You can play without a headset, you just either need a windows pc or a powerful android phone/tablet. You need a VRChat account (not steam, oculus, or anything else) logged into your game, and then you will start gaining trust. You need to be trust level New User in order to upload any content.

[brazen island]

new user

[burnt flame]

Can they all be influenced and bumped around at the same time separately, or just the one you grab?

[brazen island]

each bone will collide/play simulation separately yes, having one root bone for many hair strands is the intended use.

[burnt flame]

Okay, thank you, I'll do that then~

[river ingot]

id need to see it in blender

[rare moon]

You're right I was really tired when I wrote that lol

[hearty cloak]

Why cant I edit the scale, rotation or position of bones in the unity animation editor?

when i try to edit it just snaps back to its original position transformmation

oh wait i realized what i was doing wrong

Actually, no

is it impossible to move bones freely in an animation

[dapper path]

I already fixed it, apparently unity doesnt go well with rigify quantity of spine bones

[rare moon]

You can do this, just not with bones assigned to the humanoid rig

[hearty cloak]

That sounds very difficult to fix, is it possible to have two rigs at the same time?

[rare moon]

Humanoid bones use a muscle system, it's better imo to animate them in blender and export in unity

Since it will convert your transform animations to humanoid

But you still can't transform or scale them

Only rotate

[hearty cloak]

Well, what I wish to do requires bones to be scaled and reshaped

repositioned

[rare moon]

You can use proxy bones

[hearty cloak]

Oh, are there any resources for that?

[rare moon]

Only works for end bones on quest

But for PC you can use constraints

Constraints are coming to quest this year though

So you just have multiple rigs for these parts and constrain the bones to the humanoid rig (which isn't weighted to anything)

Use rotation constraints

[hearty cloak]

Hmm, I'mm not sure I understand, are there any tutorials for this?

[rare moon]

I'm not really sure. You basically just duplicate your bones and then use the duplicate ones as the humanoid rig

Then you just add rotation constraints onto the weighted bones

You can just duplicate part of it if you only need to do this to part of the rig

For example if it just is for the arms, duplicate the arm bones and make sure they are parented correctly (as if you had two pairs of arms)

You basically have a "ghost" rig that does the movements

And that won't be able to scale

Then the actual rig just copies the rotation from the "ghost" rig

Which allows you to scale and move them however you like

[hearty cloak]

How do I change the rig type after a rig has been imported?

[rare moon]

In the rig import settings, why do you need to change it?

[hearty cloak]

Well, I can just duplicate it in blender I suppose

[rare moon]

If it's set to humanoid, you won't have to change it, but you might need to remap bones if you want to do what I am talking about

[rare moon]

Yeah you have to do that

Since it has to be in the same fbx

You can't edit fbx files in unity but you can in blender

[hearty cloak]

adding a second rig gave me this error

[rare moon]

Scroll down and click pose>enforce tpose

[hearty cloak]

thanks

so the bones cant have the same names?

[rare moon]

Yeah i didn't think you would rename them to be the same 😅

[hearty cloak]

Hmm, alright, I'm a little confused right now, do i have to reimport the exact same rig with different bone names, or does it have to be just the bones I want to transform?

How do I tell it one rig is a humanoid rig and the other rig isn't?

[balmy delta]

you cant if they are the same name because computers dont have common sense and get confused by it

just have them named differently then only apply rigging to one of them

[hearty cloak]

one is called rig the other is Rig_Other

[balmy delta]

but the bones under it are named the same thing

[hearty cloak]

Oh

[balmy delta]

you cant even have a mesh named the same as a bone

[hearty cloak]

Alright, i renamed all the bones and it imported into unity, now how do i drive the skeleton with the other?

[balmy delta]

constraints

[hearty cloak]

So the setup should be

Humanoid Rig controls the Non-humanoid rig that controls the avatar, right?

[balmy delta]

I dont know the entirety of the conversation but sure

[rare moon]

Yep

[rare moon]

They are trying to scale and translate humanoid bones so I said to use a proxy rig with rotation constraints so the other properties can be animated as transforms while keeping the avatar as humanoid

[balmy delta]

hm

you would need to parent constraint the hip

or really any of the bones would work as a parent/position constraint but the hip is best because it is the root of the avatar

I just say parent constraint as itll be 1 less constraint than splitting it between a rotation and position

if you dont have it track the position of it then it wont move around properly

[rare moon]

Ohh yeah I was kinda assuming you would just duplicate the parts you need and parent them to the same bone

[hearty cloak]

So do i have to mannually add a constraint to every bone?

[rare moon]

Yes, but do you need to animate every bone?

Like scale and/or translation

If it's just rotation you can do that without it

[hearty cloak]

I dunno, maybe?

[rare moon]

What is your end goal?

[hearty cloak]

widen the shoulders and shrink the head of my avatar so he appears to become more mmuscula while scaling his entire size to be bigger

i might also use it to interpolate between tracked movement and animated movement

[rare moon]

Okay then you will only really need this on the arms

The head you can use a child bone for the weight painting instead since it's just on the end

[hearty cloak]

But it seems it didnt like having bones from different skeletons in the same humanoid rig, everything turned red until i had replaced all the bones

[rare moon]

Yeah put it in the same rig

Like just duplicate the bones in edit mode

I wish I could show an example but my computer is broken

[hearty cloak]

I'll just go through the painstaking process

maybe i wanna do something really crazy with my avatar later on, nothing is off-limits with Riilu

[rare moon]

I'm almost home, when I get home in a few mins if you want we can get on a vc and you can share your screen and i can walk you through it

[hearty cloak]

Sure

[rare moon]

Hello scammer

[rare moon]

[balmy delta]

I genuinely cant tell if that was supposed to be ironic or not

[pliant veldt]

You must be a comedian 😂🤣

[balmy delta]

why does every scam account always use "3d artist with 6 years of experience"

sure bud

sure you can

[rare moon]

Can you also get me banned?

For bad language

Because I called you a scammer

Aww

Guess I have to leave :(

You're really good at this

Okay I left

Dw I'm gone

[balmy delta]

you genuinely have no idea whats going on do you

you sure seem to care

[lost narwhal]

oop

"kindly remove them" their wish was granted on themself

[balmy delta]

yea lol

[coarse pumice]

question, several years ago before avatars 3.0 came out, everyone forced T pose on avatar bases in blender, so that the shoulders dont look saggy anymore in vrchat, when an avatar stands. Is it still relevant in current vrchat version? or will the shoulders look ok now even if an avatar is in standard A pose?

[balmy delta]

The pose didnt dictate the shoulders

Its generally just easier editing the model in t-pose

And just going "enforce t-pose" in unity and leaving the in scene model in whatever pose

[coarse pumice]

it did though, there was a huge difference in my models

but thnx for the info anyway

[balmy delta]

Its not a requirement in blender because the humanoid rig is done in unity

[gaunt swift]

anyone know how to rig a vrchat model
im getting a costume model made from someone but they don't rig it so i need someone to do it, i also need blendshapes setup

[balmy delta]

go to vrctraders

[gaunt swift]

?

[balmy delta]

#1204490664637890580

if you are needing someone to do it go to vrctraders

[gaunt swift]

but why this is avatar rigging chat

[balmy delta]

all you will get is scammers here

[gaunt swift]

iv seen that so far

[balmy delta]

vrctraders is where you usually go when you want to get someone to do something be it either make you a model or fix it

[gaunt swift]

im getting my model made froma trustable sorce since they made bubblez model

if you know who that is

[broken matrix]

Does anyone have suggestions for working around clipping issues for clothing that is being made to be sold for an avatar base that doesn't originally have blendshapes or anything set up on it to mitigate clipping in a typical way? I have very minimal clipping in normal scenarios, but some of the more extreme limb positions there ends up being clipping in some spots and the only way I know to deal with it is via blendshapes and/or UV tile discard. But that is not really feasible if the clothing is being sold for an avatar base that doesn't already have blendshapes set up for it already.

Am I in a scenario where I should just leave the clipping in those more extreme scenarios as is, or is there a good method for me to get rid of those clipping areas without having to utilize blendshapes/tile discard?

[river ingot]

Are the clothes optional? i.e. does it have a naked option without the clothes? If it doesn't need to be naked, you could delete the flesh mesh beneath the clothes so only the clothes exist, and there won't be anything to clip through.

[digital scarab]

hhhow would i go about rigging this thing

[digital scarab]

um

😓

[slate ember]

How do I add a chest rig to a avi that does not have a chest rig mainly fnaf

[polar leaf]

What is there to rig

[digital scarab]

the turret, at least, i want it to move independently of the body

like an actual tank

[broken matrix]

I'm looking to make clothing that fits different furry models so they don't normally have clothes as it is, but the idea behind the clothing is that it is something that is sold separately from models that others have created.

I.e. clothing that others could throw on to their models with minimal effort, ideally.

[hearty cloak]

add a bone to the rig, with its origin where the turret should rotate, call it "turret" or something, then select the whole turret annd add it to a vertex group "turret" with a weight of 1

[river ingot]

Most i've seen recommended is to copy the vertices for the weight painting from the body and paste it onto the clothes so their identical.

[broken matrix]

I gotcha! I'll see if I can get something figured out for it, thanks!

[fringe abyss]

hello everyone here, I wonder if anyone know how to make a two-anchor rope or chains with Final IK and physbones? I'm having some problems here.. well I used FABRIK and the preview in Unity looks great, but after uploading to VRChat it just seems like Final IK isn't working at all

The two ends just hang down separately, making it look nothing like a cohesive unit

btw yes i need some gravity in physbones and have already set some colliders

[digital scarab]

now that im actually on a computer: would it be necessary to apply one to the barrel as well?

[digital scarab]

so uh

how do i fix this 😰

[digital scarab]

i fixed it, but it don't work 😔

[gray cave]

making a model with barbie-style feet since im putting him in high heels, wondering if i follow the contours of the mesh seen here when i add in the foot bones, or if i'm supposed to add in the footbones as if he has flat feet. like will rigging the feet in a high heel shape mess up full body tracking/walking animations?

[rare moon]

This rig won't do much btw unless you animate it. If you want it to follow the motion of the head, you'll need to have a "ghost rig" aka bones in the same rig that create a full humanoid rig. Make sure the scale of it has the head where you want the viewpoint to be. Then in unity you can use a rotation constraint on the turret to match the rotation to the head

[eager geyser]

What change to my avatar armature should I change if I encounter that when I put, in real life, one hand on top of my face and another one on my chin, it looks like in the picture on my avatar?