world-development

[minor finch]

i got it 👍

[vagrant shale]

Check the settings in the SDK to make sure the location of the VRChat exe is set properly

[mild spade]

Check if you have "Synced" enabled on the bool. It must be enabled to be synced.

[brazen python]

it is enabled

[mild spade]

hmm. did you make sure to put the Synchronization type of the script to "manual" or "automatic"? Also is the animation active for the other player too? If you try to play a bool on a door that is not active for the other players it will not play for them. Also double check that the name of the SetBool "Take off" is exactly the same, with no spaces. Type "Take off" and dont press space or enter. Pressing enter will create an extra space

[indigo stump]

Alright. I know there’s a lot of iffiness around blacklists. And while I would love to be able to prevent someone from utilizing the world and purposely causing problems. It’s not liked.

What about admin panels that work while in game, to allow specified individuals to carry out moderation like owners can (force mute,). So they aren’t banned from the world, they can still access it, but they are easier to moderate. or for instance, forcing the users avatar into a fall back if they are coming in with crashing avatars.

Of course all of this without modifying the SDK, all through Udon\

[gaunt egret]

havent you posted this somewhere before

vrc staff dont monitor the channels.

make a canny if you want it

if you're looking to make this with udon then ask #udon-general

[bold ibex]

@limber panther If this it the same Player Bush. I'm a major dumb dumb, and I am trying to comprehend a script. So I'm kinda new to it all, but I'd love your input.

I LOVE the idea of hiding the Room Object unless a user has access. I wanted to use the KEYPAD system. Is there anyway I can get a prefab done? Or a step by step? I'm not all too good with the coding side of things.

I wanted to use a KEYPAD that teleports the user if they are GRANTED to the room. Similar to how yours ACTIVATES if the user is granted, the object is revealed (aka, the ROOM is revealed). But, is HIDDEN to other users or to those that are Denied.

I want to have to the users I have on the list, put in the code, ARE Granted, and click OK, teleport to the destination I want them to teleport to (the VIP room). May you help me with this?

I want to have a key code for aesthetics, rather than a simple button. :|

And the destination I want hidden unless granted teleportation to:

[sand forge]

anyone knows why this is happening ? it says rate limited, when i look at it ingame

It was working before, but now its just this

Like every few secs it tries to load and it doesnt work

[deft vortex]

if I want a world object to have physics (like a floppy pizza), can I use physbones or do I still need dynamic bones for that

[upper obsidian]

physbones can be used in worlds too

[deft vortex]

thanx

[sacred warren]

Do you have multiple video players in the world? Or anything making external calls?

[sand forge]

Nop, its only that one player

The rest is furniture

I tried re adding the player and the settings, but it didnt work either

[sacred warren]

I had that issue in a club world I made with only a single video player, it was very annoying. You may need to turn off autoplay (and make sure there's no default) and see if it works if you manually put an URL in.

[gaunt egret]

physbones are not out yet for worlds @deft vortex

unless ive missed an update, youll have to use dynamic bones

[sand forge]

Hmm i will try that later, thank you

[sacred warren]

That's not a permanent solution but just for testing purposes. If that does work then it may be that you need to script it loading or syncing a bit after someone joins.

[sand forge]

Oh god

[sacred warren]

I think one historical issue there was that it would always try to load the URL twice for some reason, which in turn triggered the "3 second timeout" protection and would break it.

The "only one URL every 3 seconds" thing is incredibly annoying and makes some things that should be easy, exponentially more complex :/

[upper obsidian]

It is enough to install SDK3 for avatars along with SDK3 for worlds, and use all its features.

[sand forge]

It sounds annoying yes

[sacred warren]

I hope they add some way to construct URLs and do API calls out in future, as it's somewhat required if you want to be able to handle anything externally.

[sand forge]

Ugh well, i know nothing about Scripts or anything else

I usually watch videos for that

[gaunt egret]

using both avatar sdk and world sdk will conflict lol

[upper obsidian]

Doesn't conflict and won't lol

[glad tiger]

I created a hole in a wall in Probuilder but I am unable to walk through it in game. I detached and deleted all the faces previously. Anyone know what's wrong?

Should I fill the hole, delete the meshes and try again?

I'm trying that now

[naive bone]

I have question does sugar and salt particles have something to do with lagging in the game?

[upper obsidian]

The collider is still using the old mesh, you can see by the file name, update it.

[glad tiger]

where would I find that?

[upper obsidian]

On the same object, the collider component.

The name of the mesh in the render mesh and in the collider must match.

[glad tiger]

ok

so rename this

to this?

[upper obsidian]

Yes

[glad tiger]

I'll test it.

building world now

nope still doesn't work.

I'll make a new wall

Wait

I think I found it.

I duplicated a different wall to redo the current one, and it did not have the same collider positioning and scaling. I'll mess with the colliders on the current wall and I'll see what happens.

Ok the colliders work properly now but the shader isn't showing up in game.

[brazen python]

alright. ill check

[lilac pewter]

does anyone know if i can unpack my last build because i had a power outage and it messed up the scene so its completely gone but i have the last build which isnt far off anyway i can unpack it

[vagrant shale]

A power outage messed up your Unity scene? Did it happen during the scene getting saved? That's the only thing I would think that could do that. It got messed up how? I don't think you're going to get a scene from a VRChat build without a fair amount of against TOS work.

[bold ibex]

is there a way to convert all materials to the vrchat > mobile > strander lite

[azure valley]

Apologies if asking for assets here isn't proper, but does anyone know of a cheap fire particle effect or some equivalent?

[wanton badger]

So I can upload a world to vrc, but my friends can't join it, there's no errors so please tell me what wrong

[bold ibex]

number 1 : is it public
number 2 : is your rank new user
number 3 : is it for quest and windows

[wanton badger]

1. yes
2. Trusted
3. pc

[stone reef]

While trying to playtest my World this error popped up (Unity CS0103), anyone here able to help me?

Edit: I looked the error up but my brain is kinda smooth

[bold ibex]

well is your friends joining on quest?

[wanton badger]

Of course not

[vagrant shale]

I think you can just shift select them in the project window and then change the shader up at the top in the inspector. Some components don't allow for multi-object editing but I don't think shaders are one of those

[vagrant shale]

What is keeping them from joining? Are they getting an error? Can they not send requests?

[wanton badger]

They can see the world in the world's menu, they join but when they click OK to join, a black screen appears and then they get sent to their home world

[vagrant shale]

But you can get in there just fine? That is strange. That can happen with certain issues like not having a floor collider (I think) but it should also be happening to you.

[bold ibex]

howis my world looking so far i imported a roblox map into unity

[timid ocean]

Does anyone know how, with ClientSim, to switch to the perspective of a remote player? I can't find this information anywhere, may not be possible

[timid ocean]

Update, this is not presently possible.
#creator-companion message

[vagrant shale]

Bumping isn't a thing on Discord so you're just pushing your messages out of view. I don't know what to tell you other than reimporting the SDK but I imagine you've tried that.

[prisma scaffold]

How do quest players input something to a UI InputField? I know for SteamVR users we can either use out PC's keyboard or an overlay keyboard, but how would a Quest user?

[vagrant shale]

Generally, they don't. There might be some sort of workaround but that is generally not possible.

[late summit]

i keep getting this for every youtube url i try to save in the usharpvideo playlist

[vagrant shale]

Are you sure the player can handle plain Youtube links? A lot can't but I don't know about that specific player.

[late summit]

i was looking it up and i dont think its supports yt links

is there a video player that you know of that supports youtube links?

[analog wyvern]

protv does

sidenote: im tryna get both an audio/music player ( in background, Udon Record Player) and my main tv (protv with ltcgi) however right now only the protv one works (only wiht audio) the other one doesnt play or load anything

any fix? or is two media players just not possible

[late summit]

https://architechvr.booth.pm/items/2536209 this one?

[analog wyvern]

yea

[late summit]

ok ty

ill try to get this working

[vagrant shale]

As far as I know, ProTV only supports youtube links if you use youtube-dl and then you need a link resolver to keep them from expiring but maybe that's just for Quest but it's the one I use because it works consistently for Quest

[late summit]

im having an issue with my mirror where it shows the avatars & world but blacks out avatars completely

im not sure what i did wrong

[mild spade]

If your lights are baked but you dont have any Light Probes, any dynamic object (anything that is not static, like avatars or pickups) will not receive the baked light data, so they will appear completely dark. Light probes add light data from the baked light to dynamic objects like players. The VRWorld Toolkit gives you that warning too

[late summit]

oh lmao... im dumb thanks for the reminder.. it was right there too and i didnt even notice the alert

i removed all my light probes and forgot to redo them because i added rooms, changed the light direction, and remodeled the interior

makes sense

[tulip crow]

where can i get sdk3

[digital comet]

ups

go to vrchat.com/home

download a there you go

[charred scarab]

Hi, using a mesh collider for the ground, which is low poly and gently sloped. When I walk up it in vr, I notice that the camera is sort of jittery, anyone know whats causing it?

[stone marsh]

This is normal behavior when walking up slopes. Typically it's only noticable when really focusing on it, or when the slope is just at the right angle of steepness. It may ideal to play with different slope angles.

[charred scarab]

thanks

[sacred warren]

AVPro lets you set a max resolution (which I assume is passed to YTDL) but I'm not seeing an "audio only" option. Is there any way to get it to ask for audio only, or shall I open a feature request?

[digital comet]

hii, i recently started to make 3d worlds on vrchat, and i dont know how it works microphone detection

[glad tiger]

What reflect layers do I need to select to have a mirror reflect only the players and not the skybox/environment?

[glad tiger]

Yaya thanks

no more sussy links!

[daring belfry]

👍

[meager root]

does vrc support urp?

i waana try some stencil shader shenanagins

[upper obsidian]

Vrc only supports the built-in pipeline.

[plush kindle]

WIP

[vagrant shale]

People have managed stencil shader type effects somehow but yeah, no URP

[meager root]

ah oki, ty

[celest bramble]

uhm a small question QwQ uhm have maybe someone a idea how i can use Screen Space Reflections in VRChat? so uhm i will build it in (With an toggle that default off is) my world

[green lagoon]

that would involve using a Shader that supports screen space reflections

[celest bramble]

the built in standard shader does that and the camera is set correctly. but ingame it is still not visible

[green lagoon]

I know it's possible to do I just don't know in particular?

and I suppose you could also try a real-time light probe?

[cobalt prawn]

Is that camera also set as the reference camera in your scene descriptor?

I don't know anything about SSR specifically but that's an important step for modifying camera stuff in general

Ah so according to the docs SSR is not supported for VR https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.postprocessing@3.2/manual/Screen-Space-Reflections.html

Yea I would look into using a realtime reflection probe instead

[green lagoon]

the screen space Reflections would have problems with being stereo correct which is probably why it's not VR compatible

[cobalt prawn]

Yeah I figured it would have some stereo issues. Oh well. Wait for rtx update 😈

[green lagoon]

I don't think anyone would have the budget for a graphics card powerful enough to do ray tracing in VR

[cobalt prawn]

Naw lol I'm just playin. Maybe someday

[celest bramble]

uhm yea it is xD ^^ but uhm i have see that on a world and it work well also in vr

[celest bramble]

the world calls OutCasted and that the Extrem mode

[austere hull]

how i check for quest inputs

OVRInput.Get(OVRInput.Button.Two) dont work

[final rapids]

Hey, I'm suddenly having trouble updating my world. Everything seems to go fine until it uploads the file, where it gets stuck and says failed to upload asset bundle

[vagrant shale]

Have you tried closing and re-opening Unity?

[final rapids]

multiple times

[austere hull]

private void Start()
{
lp = Networking.LocalPlayer.displayName;
}

i cant publish world because of that line whys that

in playmode it works correctly

but in publish mode theres no localplayer that shouldnt be issue

[azure valley]

dumb stupid question: what are the settings for the avatar-only low quality mirror or is it a prefab i have to find online somewhere

[green lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUALbgztU5Y

[tulip tartan]

im looking on how to put a metro in vrc can some one give me a tip

[simple salmon]

Anyone used the VRCBilliards VRCBCE table? I've imported the specified version of udon sharp into unity project, put the prefab in the world and the readme says it should just be that simple but none of the buttons on the table are responding :S (n00b to vrc world creation so don't discount the simple 😄 )

[vagrant shale]

Like a subway system? Do you want it to be functional? Can it just teleport people or do you want it to actually move in space?

[azure valley]

thanks but I meant this sort of mirror! that tutorial is very useful for the udon stuff tho

[green lagoon]

https://github.com/acertainbluecat/VRCPlayersOnlyMirror

the prefab for doing that kind of mirror

[azure valley]

ah thanks, I didn't know if the default vrc prefab could have it's settings altered for that or not

[green lagoon]

checking over the page it seems It's a custom Shader on VRCPlayersOnlyMirror

[hybrid jolt]

HELLO SORRY I’m looking for someone to make a MAZERUNNER glade and maze in good quality pls

[hybrid jolt]

Quest compatible too

Or not ether or

[coral magnet]

Don't think you'll easily find someone who'd do it in their spare time! 😄
Sounds like a fun concept though.

[hybrid jolt]

Imean yea probably not but it’s worth a shot to put up and I’d be willing to pay 💰 300 pound for it

[coral magnet]

Ah that's always valuable to say!

[hybrid jolt]

I’d be willing to top at 500

[coral magnet]

There's some other Discords for commissioning world creators, you might get lucky there. Check out vrctraders in #community-servers-old

For 'in good quality' 500 might be on the low end, but it's probably sufficient for a small commission. Good luck!

[tulip tartan]

like a vehicle that like moves

a ukraine metro

[bold ibex]

Still seeing support to have a keypad code teleport to VIP room with a whitelist bound box around said room.

Is that possible?

A white list box?

[vagrant shale]

Do you know how to make an animation? Basically you just need to animate the subway car and then make the char stations child objects of that but you don't want to move it too fast or the avatars will start to lag behind the chairs. Other option depending on how the scene is set up would be to move the world around the subway and keep the subway itself stationary which would avoid any issues with lag but wouldn't work so great if you need to have people inside and outside the subway sharing the same world.

[maiden magnet]

Hey guys, haven't made a world in a while so just a question
I'm trying to do texture compression/crunching and the "override for android" option is gone (To crunch for quest)
Did it change to something else? I'm pretty sure the only compatibility option I didn't install was for apple devices.

[vagrant shale]

Can you build for Android?

[maiden magnet]

Android is what Quest uses to operate

At least lasat time I checked it was. It may have switched to a windows mobile platform or something

[vagrant shale]

Yeah, the SDK refers to it as Android but it basically means Quest. Can you switch build target to Android?

[maiden magnet]

Or linux. But I havent looked into quest in like a year

Let me check

I closed my project so give me a second

Ok so apparently I DID miss the Android module

[vagrant shale]

Alright, well you can add it in the Unity Hub if you installed Unity that way.

[maiden magnet]

Doing that right now

This is embarrassing lmao

Ok problem solved LMAO moral of the story: Look into stuff for longer then 10 seconds before inquiring.

[vagrant shale]

No worries, it's an easy miss, especially if you don't connect Android support to being related to Quest support 🙏

[maiden magnet]

Yeah I already knew about that but my ignorant self believed I already installed the android module. RIP one hour of my time

more like 30 minutes but I also got lazy

[bold ibex]

How do I make an animated texture into my world

[abstract flare]

What's the easiest way to make a timed door? Like I want it to open with a button, count to 5 and then close.

[wary token]

https://vxtwitter.com/RolltheredDev/status/1540960601643646976
Finally got a trailer for my world 🤠

[runic epoch]

anyone using audiolink?

i can't seem to be able to connect the prefab lights to anything

[wary token]

It appears you are not in the VRCAudio discord server, any reason why?

Its the AudioLink Dev's server.

[runic epoch]

cant seem to find a link to it :p

[wary token]

I will DM you 1 sec :3

[rose dirge]

hi so i uploaded my world to find a issue so i have removed it hoping to reupload is there a way or do i have to wait till this time next week .. many thanks

[bold ibex]

oh crap wrong channel

[alpine blade]

anybody know where the camera is that you use to make the world picture?

nvm im dumb

[inland thorn]

Any world builder here ?

[gaunt egret]

for world commission's find the VRC traders discord in #community-servers-old
nft worlds or advertising is not allowed so do not bother if that is your goal

[gaunt egret]

if it was public and you removed it completely youll need to wait a week to reupload it

[rose dirge]

@gaunt egret it was private

But it was uploaded so I'm guessing I'll have to wait

[gaunt egret]

if its private you can reupload

you dont have to remove it entirely

if it has the same pipeline id you can just update it

[rose dirge]

yeah well i removed it and tried to re upload to no luck its not even showing on my vr chat account

[hidden inlet]

i wonder if there is a shader that supports emission masks besides poiyomi? I want to use emissions as an alternative to lightsources, so i can save a Material slot that way

[sacred warren]

Am I missing something, or does the trailer for the world not actually include the world...?

[frosty bone]

This is a lot errors. How fix it?

[austere hull]

how i fix

cant bind button for quest

[upper obsidian]

why do you have sdk at the same time in packages and in assets?

[frosty bone]

you say 2 packages?

And i got it already, when i just made new project... that is crazy, SDK is first package i just installed.

It's weird to see errors already with new project.

oh, after restart errors are gone...

in new project part.

Ah... i think i found the cause.

And it's partially fault of CyanLaser.

https://github.com/vrchat-community/ClientSim here he didn't warned about if you download earlier SDK package from VRChat website (where most people did it normally) and here it just say without warning install packages. That cause the long error list in Console.

I just follow instructions - so many people will just do it.

And it will go wrong if you installed package from VrChat site.

No warnings in instructions is not good, dear CyanLaser....

I thought first you need 3 packs for ClientSim.

oke, it seems owner of the page need write more information (so not cyanlaser himself)

and i heard there is new tool creator companion... but i still like some handwork 🙂

[wary token]

It included the world.

You missed it, twice.

[sacred warren]

Oh christ, you mean the thing that pops up for about half a second? lol

[wary token]

Nope xD

Nearly the entire first half of the video

[sacred warren]

Oh, the hallway? But yeah, I mean it's now showing the world very much in that case 😉

[frosty bone]

do we all use now Creator Companion? 🙂

[coral magnet]

I'm planning to switch to it eventually, for new projects at least. I've had some trouble upgrading.

Which isn't the worst thing in the world, we can still use the public SDK without the creator companion.

But eventually it's going to lead compatibility issues with third party prefabs.

[frosty bone]

That is why not all people can just switch 🙂

That explains, thank you.

Problem ClientSim doesn't work with public SDK. Old CyanEmu is only option to use it with public SDK.

kinda shame actually, you're almost forced to switch... if you want use new features of ClientSim.

[sacred warren]

Why can you not construct URLs in Udon? It seems like a weirdly significant oversight.

[vagrant shale]

Seems like a potential security threat? Not sure.

[wary token]

Kinda infuriating hearing this, I am barely educated on what creator companion even does so I may be wrong here, but isn't this going to create some sort of exclusivity for specific creators that have already established themselves? If you can only get stuff that passed an approval process (if that is how it works, idk) then its going to effectively kill a lot of the smaller creators by limiting their reach to websites like Booth and Gumroad.

I can already see creator companion becoming something that hurts and demotivates smaller creators if its going to be exclusive, not sure if it will be but if it is, that is extremely worrisome.

Everyone I ask about this has differing answers too, so i feel like VRChat needs to educate us on what it actually does and how its going to work for creators just because everyone seems confused who i talked to so far.

Potential Canny post? I don't know if i should, but i think maybe?

[vagrant shale]

Hopefully it stays optional, I certainly don't see any need to use it when most of the features already exist in separate packages

[green lagoon]

https://hello.vrchat.com/blog/creator-toolbox-update if it helps here's the official blog post on creator companion

[wary token]

Going to re read this incase i missed anything, thank you ❤️

[green lagoon]

hope that clears it up for you

[coral magnet]

It's easy to use for new projects. But the upgrade to the new package system AND U# 1.0 causes issues. It might be inevitable that issues occur

[wary token]

I'm curious, how many steps is there to get creator companion currently?

Is it painless? 😮

Is there a guide somewhere?

[coral magnet]

Yep, pretty painless. There's download links in that blog post, I think?

[wary token]

I'm gonna read that right now 🙏

[coral magnet]

Docs right here, explains everything in a more structured manner https://vcc.docs.vrchat.com/

[wary token]

Is it similar to Github Desktop?

It looks like it

Ok this is horrible already xD

Time for some people to start running VM's to make stuff i guess xD

[green lagoon]

well vrchat doesn't doesn't have any officially sanctioned support for running on Mac or Linux for Content creation

[vagrant shale]

I guess some people are still holding onto their installs of Windows 7 for dear life. Windows 10 is pretty good, not sure about 11, though.

Let's not talk about 8

[wary token]

What im getting from this is that it auto switches from windows to android for you?

For quest?

If so, thats actually kinda pog.

Also i really hope clientsim gets VR support

[vagrant shale]

It's nice but so long as your project size isn't bloated and you have your cache set up, it's only a minute or two to switch build targets so I don't really mind that.

[wary token]

its really nice not having to build a project and just be able to sit in your map to get scale just right before publishing 😄

[gaunt egret]

just hoping its not going to be forced on us

i understand its aimed for a newer demographic but im perfectly capable of managing projects, keeping with the correct versions of packages, etc etc

[green lagoon]

I guess that would depend on how much adoption there is with the VRChat Package Manager format VPM

[sacred warren]

Occlusion culling normally behaves but I'm having some weirdness at the moment, in fact it's almost like it's doing the opposite of what it should do. Here's an example. The only thing I've changed from the defaults is Backface Threshold to 20.

[pastel coyote]

Make sure your Windows is up to date. Sorry I'm late on this!

[rose dirge]

still having a issue with my world not showing up once its been uploaded gave it some time and still no luck

[vagrant shale]

It's allowing you to upload and the process is completing but it isn't showing up in the Mine menu?

[sacred warren]

Does it show up if you check your profile on the website?

[rose dirge]

It doesn't no but I had the message saying world created successfully @sacred warren

[sacred warren]

It'll sometimes say that even if it completely fails. Are there any red messages in the console?

[naive bone]

does anyone in here know how to make the character climb the ladder without headset?

[rose dirge]

@sacred warren going to try reupload clear the log so I can tell ya

[pseudo sequoia]

I have a question on layers StereoLeft and StereoRight. If I tag objects with those layers, will they be only displayed for the respective eye?

Looking if I can make picture frames with 3D photos

[vagrant shale]

There has to be shaders that can do that but I'm not sure about doing it with layers.

[pseudo sequoia]

It would have to be a shader made specifically with VR in mind

[rose dirge]

@sacred warren

[sacred warren]

You're trying to upload a with someone else's blueprint ID apparently.

[rose dirge]

how do i sort that as its my new world

[sacred warren]

Did you add the VRC Scene Descriptor yourself, or was it already there?

[rose dirge]

already there

[vagrant shale]

Usually it will give you a specific error when that's happening, not just tell you it uploaded fine but detaching the pipeline manager where your scene descriptor is (probably VRCWorld) should do it.

There will just be a button that says detach

[sacred warren]

You say it's your new world, but it already had someone else's blueprint ID present. Where did you get this "world" from?

[rose dirge]

i made it but deleted the first one i uploaded due to finding an issue

[vagrant shale]

If the world no longer exists, it should free up the ID but I guess it isn't doing that.

[sacred warren]

Ahh, that makes sense. Yeah, just as Krampus said, detatch it, clear the box if it doesn't clear itself and it'll generate a new one when you upload.

[ocean crag]

So none of the objects I hide are disappearing from my screen, is there something I can change to make them disappear again?

[rose dirge]

cheers @vagrant shale and @sacred warren

[vagrant shale]

So the objects you hide are disappearing and you want to change them so they disappear? Run that by me again.

[ocean crag]

Aren’t disappearing sorry

[vagrant shale]

How are you hiding them?

[ocean crag]

Clicking the eyeball

[vagrant shale]

There's an eyeball in Unity? Can you post a screenshot?

Is this Blender?

[ocean crag]

no?

[sacred warren]

There's an eyeball thing in the hierarchy

You need to make sure you have the eyeball clicked at the top of the scene window too, else it won't work.

[ocean crag]

ah yep thats it thanks

[vagrant shale]

I see, I've never used that but I guess it could come in handy. I assume that only hides things inside of Unity so it seems like it could get confusing.

[ocean crag]

I just use it to hide all the reflection probes

[sacred warren]

Yeah, it's just to make life easier if you're trying to work on things which overlap or occlude other objects, or need to drag select in the window without selecting them.

[sacred warren]

If you collapse the reflection probe component, they should disappear anyway.

[past tulip]

someone knows how to resolve this problem, like the vrchat sdk control panel not showing in unity

[ocean crag]

Do you have the newest update?

[vagrant shale]

You likely have errors in the console

[runic inlet]

Are there any videos on how to set up the world development kit?

Because I have no idea

[vagrant shale]

Do you mean the SDK or WorldToolKit? In either case, you just install it like any custom package.

[azure valley]

I'm. Feeling like I'm missing something really dumb - is udon sharp no longer required?

[vagrant shale]

Udon Sharp has never been required if you don't intend on using Udon Sharp scripts.

[azure valley]

for certain prefabs I mean, sorry.

I'm just feelin quite dumb, I follow the links, get the latest version of udon sharp, import the package - all is fine as good. Go to put in a prefab that requires udon sharp and then it just... doesn't work? Says theres a compile error?

I'm trying to get a video player in and it just seems like udonsharp... isn't working?

I'm using SDK3, I'm like a solid 90% sure I did everything correctly, I just don't know where I could have gone wrong here?

[vagrant shale]

I'm not sure, I haven't had any issues with Udon Sharp but I see a lot of people do. I haven't installed a new version since the creator companion came out, though. I do know some issues can arise if you add a prefab dependent on Udon Sharp but it sounds like you went in the right order.

Maybe ask about it on Techanon's server?

[azure valley]

Well the same thing happened with the USharp Video player, its why i went to ProTV to see if that worked. Got the same issue on either?

[tidal turtle]

I made a snow particle for my world but how do I make the snow not clip though my house since I tried to fix it but couldnt

[vagrant shale]

I believe there's an option for giving a particle collision. Whether that performs decently or even works in VRChat, I don't know.

[azure valley]

Could this have something to do with it?

I'm on the latest version but it wont let me import that part, uh

[vagrant shale]

You could always try deleting and reimporting the SDK and then importing Udon Sharp over that but I don't know if that will do anything.

[azure valley]

i mean at this point why the hell not, huh? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Well that didn't work

I'm gonna try a separate project and see if it works in there

Well, it works in a separate project

Is it because I have udon scripts already in the other project? They were just mirror toggles so they wouldn't be too bad to redo, just annoying.

[gaunt egret]

you need udon sharp for those players

it even says on the protv page

[azure valley]

I know that, udonsharp wont import correctly on my current project.

I'm trying to figure out why and how to reverse it

it wont let me merge the vrc folder

[gaunt egret]

hrm that is the right version of sharp too tf

[azure valley]

I'll just steal the files over from the other project

if the import wont overwrite then copy and paste will!!!!!

[azure valley]

update: didn't work

[vagrant shale]

You might also have to delete the SDK from the packages folder as well as the assets folder

[azure valley]

Just found that part! Thank you tho

okay that didn't work either.

I guess some other package I have in here messed it up

[azure valley]

Well, time to go port everything to a new project and then see where I went wrong

[brazen python]

how do you make a animation transition from multiple states to the next

im trying to make it play the first one on loop. then when you click the button plays the next animation and when it finishes it plays another loop until interupted by the button press again making it play a non looping animation going back to the looping static animation

[lethal blade]

Quick question
Are worlds allowed to store data off VRChat

Ex: in a self-hosted database

[upper obsidian]

It's not forbidden, the question is whether you can technically do it.

[lethal blade]

I mean it is the unity engine soo

Not out of the question

Even if I have to stoop to roblox levels of communication I will deal with it

(Roblox can only use http(s) connections)

[upper obsidian]

Vrchat itself does not prohibit this, the documentation has a list of allowed components, including udon. Read, try.

[lethal blade]

Apparently though
Vrchat disallows custom c# scripts

[upper obsidian]

Vrchat allows custom scripts udon sharp

[lethal blade]

Yes but that is csharp -> udon
Therefore anything not possible in udon is not possible in udon sharp

And by custom scripts I mean special manually written c# scripts

[upper obsidian]

https://github.com/vrchat-community/UdonSharp

[lethal blade]

But can it import native system libraries

Like example in these scripts
https://gist.github.com/danielbierwirth/0636650b005834204cb19ef5ae6ccedb

[bold ibex]

can multiple people world on a world together

thank you

[sand forge]

heya ! i added a new video player to my world ( ProTv ) and i have these errors, and i have a purple screen ingame with no sounds or anything, so the links wont even load.
its the only player in the world

[minor finch]

if an audio source is a child of a mesh and that mesh is culled, does that mean that the audio source is also culled?

I haven't tested this

[fervent steppe]

my floor keeps dissapearing

[upper obsidian]

Is the sound related to the video renderer?

[minor finch]

No just regular audio sources c:

[upper obsidian]

It was sarcasm. Component mesh render on an object stops working when culled. It doesn't affect anything else.

[fossil hull]

No. UdonSharp is only similar to C# as a language, it works on a completely different level. It has it's own bytecode that runs in a VM before it does any calls to the actual Unity API or any C# calls.

[fossil hull]

And things like sockets are obviously blocked for use due to how dangerous that would be.

[minor finch]

Occlusion culling

[glad tiger]

How can I make my rain particles be reflected in a mirror? I have the particles and mirror set to the same layer.

[wary token]

Try setting it to a mesh particle and mess with the facing direction

And the mesh to a quad

for some reason unity's billboarding is broken in mirrors, but mesh particles work for me.

[glad tiger]

where would I change it to mesh particle?

under the Shape menu?

[wary token]

I forgot what section it was called, but its towards the bottom.

[glad tiger]

I found it

[glad tiger]

What kind of mesh do you use for it? Cylinder?

[wary token]

If you are using a sprite for your particle, it will be best on a quad mesh.

Or a cube scaled on its axis to make it flat

so it will be double sided

😄

[glad tiger]

I'm looking at this right here:

I found Quad under the mesh tab

[wary token]

Yee, mess with render alignment too

That will be the most important setting

[glad tiger]

What do you like to set it at?

[wary token]

It varies depending on what you're going for, i think i usually have it locked to an axis so the particles stay straight

i cant remember the names of the settings though, im away from my PC atm so i cant check

[glad tiger]

Where can I change the transform of the particle itself?

[wary token]

Under shape i think

And size over lifetime if you wanna use that to get some variation

[glad tiger]

Shape only changes the space that the particles will show up in

The shape itself is set to Box

[wary token]

I think it was at the top, you can check all the different properties here https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/ParticleSystem.html

[azure valley]

https://i.imgur.com/pF5XCvX.jpeg

feels kind of nice to make something entirely from scratch. s'what i got so far

[sacred warren]

Does anyone have a script or know where I can get a script that will change all selected object's "Static" flag back to the prefab's default? (it's annoyingly one of the things Unity doesn't let you do on multi-select).

[main marlin]

this is my first time trying to create a vr chat world and whille i was trying to install the sdk3 to unity it had and eror with one of the files and idk how to fix it can someone pls help

how do u fix this

[sacred warren]

You're using completely the wrong version of Unity.

Follow the instructions in the VRC guides much more closely.

[main marlin]

oh dam

ok

[sacred warren]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/setting-up-the-sdk

[main marlin]

thc

thx

[gaunt egret]

ayy thats cute! would love to visit when you release it

[azure valley]

I'm tempted to release it sort of bare-bones rn just to see the filesize and have something available tbh

[lethal blade]

Anyone know if lighting affects video players

[vagrant shale]

It depends on the material of the player. In the case of PROTV, I'm pretty sure you can adjust that to change the glossiness.

[bold ibex]

yo alright does anyone know how to add brushes into your world, whenever I search it up all I get is the annoying brush avatar

[sacred warren]

You probably want to look up pen prefabs, not brushes 😉

[bold ibex]

i meant like hair brushes, what I now realize I should've searched hairbrushes and not just brushes 🥲

okay cant find that either

so does anyone know how to add hair brushes

[iron trench]

i tried loading into MY OWN WORLD and it just loads 2 times then kicks me to home world. how do i fix this?

[vagrant shale]

You just want hair brush models? https://sketchfab.com/search?features=downloadable&q=hair+brush&type=models

[gaunt egret]

https://iaminvalid.gumroad.com/l/hctbu i found this but its for avatars lol

[vagrant shale]

No Quest support 😩

[azure valley]

why are most vrchat tutorials extremely lengthy youtube videos

[vagrant shale]

Because the video creator has to screw up halfway through and then start over from the beginning without editing that part out.

[azure valley]

It's somehow extremely accessible while also taking up so much time unnecessarily its annoying

[final rapids]

I'm trying to update my world, and I'm getting the following error when the file is uploading: Asset Bundle upload Failed. Failed to Upload File. These are the errors i get in the console

I have restarted Unity and it still keeps happening

[austere hull]

can i run function on input

[crimson sand]

help

[thorny geyser]

Should I use .png or .jpg for materials?

[vagrant shale]

I'd use png. Unity gives you a ton of tools for compressing your textures and reducing the size of your build but you can't uncompress something that already had compression embedded into the file.

[thorny geyser]

oo nice ty

[slender mauve]

hey, I'm using unity and a YouTube video on how to make a world and when i am trying to start the test it makes me get vrchat through Microsoft Appstore but when I search in there nothing comes up, I have tried using my actual oculus and that didn't work earthier, and I searched vrchat on a window logged in and it still says I need Microsoft. Can someone please tell me earthier how to get it on Microsoft app or how to get it somewhere else that will work.

and for the youtube video when he presses it he jsut goes right in

[vagrant shale]

I would download it through Steam if you're using VRChat on PC or using a headset connected to a PC.

[green lagoon]

you pick up vrchat on Steam not Microsoft Appstore

[slender mauve]

Kk ty

[azure valley]

ive come up with a solution to udon being hard to learn and tutorials being very broad and unspecific sometimes

[slender mauve]

so, I am on steam and logged in to my account and when i press build and test it still takes me to Microsoft Appstore still. So, I need to know how to fix that. like maybe a setting on vrchat or something?

[vagrant shale]

There should be settings in your builder where you need to tell it where VRChat.exe is located. By default it's C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\VRChat\VRChat.exe

[surreal nebula]

how do you make a cutout mirror

[azure valley]

I don't have the link to it right now but it's a custom prefab

[surreal nebula]

yeah I searched in this channel and found it, thanks though

[upper obsidian]

https://github.com/acertainbluecat/VRCPlayersOnlyMirror/blob/main/VRCPlayersOnlyMirrorSDK3/Assets/VRCPlayersOnlyMirror/Shaders/PlayersOnlyMirrorCutout.shader

[minor finch]

For some reason I thought you were talking about the video player unrelated above lol. So it's affecting the mesh renderer component and not the game objects themselves, got it.

[severe patio]

Question for... anyone!
I'm kinda new to VRChat world making and stuff.
Just messing around rn mostly and learning along the way.
I have an idea for a VRChat club. I know, I know- there's a lot of clubs in vrchat and its annoying.
Well;

1. Mines has a special... gimmick to it that i would love to see in a club world, but nobody has done it yet.
2. Im lazy so im sure i won't even make it to a full fledged thing anyway, but lemme at least try to do the basics.

I've uploaded random worlds before and put together basic things with probuilder and audio link.
I'm here to ask for some audio link help / tips actually! Hard to find some online.

In club worlds with audio link, at least some of them. The colors of the lights matches the video kinda.
Like in LOCATION.SEWER, the lights match the video. Actually, I think the lights in that one are coming directly from the video screens so idk if thats a good example.
Maybe "0day" ? Which, seems like the same thing. But like the light pulses and glows the specific video's color. And the lights on the ceiling match.

How do i get this effect?
In unity all i seemed to get is to change color via "reactivity settings" on the surface or whatever.
its bad enough i can't even use the USharpVideo player in unity anyway, it just fails with unknown error in play mode, i'd have to go directly in vrchat to test that :/ (or well, the "test" feature)

[green lagoon]

https://github.com/PiMaker/ltcgi

[severe patio]

ohhh i completely forgot about the realtime lighting

tysm

[green lagoon]

https://twitter.com/pi_does_code/status/1506001342317449219?s=20&t=ksMXvdEoS_r3ztK5D1mGUA

pi (@pi_does_code)

Haven't had much time to work on #ltcgi, but I love exploring worlds that use it :) Here's a little compilation of worlds!

▶ Play video

Twitter · Mar 21, 2022, 8:14 PM

[steep forge]

Hello everyone, I'm new to creating worlds for VR chat, I would like to know how to play a YouTube music playlist in a quest world. Any help would be greatly appreciated🙂 I looked all over youtube however, all i seen were videos on how to place a player using udon but not how to script it.

[green lagoon]

you can't play any YouTube videos on the quest

[vagrant shale]

I got them working with ProTV but that was a while back and it was using youtube-dl and even then, the links expired after a few hours. I'm not sure if that method even works now, I think you can use a link resolver but I've never had good luck with those.

[upper obsidian]

ProTV, like any other package on udon, is just a shell for managing AVPro. And they do not add any new features for AVPro.

[fervent steppe]

parts in my world keep disappearing

so i click test and the earth that i placed in the sky dissappears

its static and the shader is set to standard

the planet is just a sphere aswell so idk why it disappears

nope i cant replicate it

could the object be too far?

[fervent steppe]

its too far away

well i found the issue but the fix is a different question

ill just shrink the planet and move it closer

oh ffs

i think i just fixed the issue

[fervent furnace]

Hey there, does anyone have a good example model for visually checking the size of what you build to make sure it looks natural. Basically a mannequin.

It's been a few years since I have made anything for vr chat and in the old sdk it used to include one. Maybe it still exists in this sdk and I looked over it.

If I need to I will just import an avatar but I enjoyed having that simple mannequin to make sure everything just was averaged and compositionally similar throughout the scene.

[bold ibex]

its probably best to download an avatar

[fervent furnace]

I wanted to try avoiding that since some avatars seem to be much smaller or larger than each other and that mannequin from the first sdk was like right in the middle of everyone but if I can't find one of my original projects and pull it out I guess I will just download an av that looks close.

[surreal nebula]

trying to modify a script to work with interact instead of ui for colliders, what should I do to set opposite value?

[old breach]

Assets\UdonSharp\Editor\UdonSharpASTVisitor.cs(2800,58): error CS0246: The type or namespace name 'InterpolatedStringTextSyntax' could not be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

Any fix?

[gaunt egret]

spawn the capsule

er well, the capsule model you can add into your scene within unity is the collider for avatars

i use that to scale my worlds, seems fine

[austere hull]

how to properly manage thousands of objects on map

[vagrant shale]

That's really going to depend on what your needs are. It sounds like you might just need to have code running on interact but you have it running all the time which isn't great.

[green lagoon]

what kind of objects are the lots of objects

[austere hull]

2500 objects each having collider and 3 meshes

[green lagoon]

what do the objects do

as It would answer if you can just disabled all of them not in view

[austere hull]

they all disabled by default

but map loading takes minutes

[vagrant shale]

What is your world size? That's the only thing that should impact how long it takes to load. I would look into batching if you have a bunch of identical meshes but I don't know that much about the details on that. I think just marking them as static should enable some batching.

[barren spindle]

Hey guys, I'm new with crunch compression/crunching, do you bake lighting then crunch or the other way around? ty for reply.

[vagrant shale]

I don't think it matters. Crunch compression effects the texture and lightmaps are their own layer on top of the texture. You can crunch your lightmaps to reduce their size but you need to have lightmaps to do that.

[barren spindle]

Hmm, I see. when i crunched the texture when i already baked the lights. it got this weird artifacts. anyways ty for reply

[vagrant shale]

Crunching will give you artifacts to some level, that's just the nature of compression but you didn't get them when you crunched after baking? Generally, you do any compression on your textures when importing them and then leave them alone. Having to re-compress after every bake would get to be a real pain for larger scenes.

[jovial juniper]

anyone know why the client sim window is greyed out?

[barren spindle]

I didn't touched the texture before baking, that's why i got curious with it having artifacts. when the baked was done then i crunched it's texture

didn't get them when you crunched after baking?
nope, everything was perfect. no weird artifacts and all

[vagrant shale]

Crunching is the best option for reducing file size but it's also one of the more extreme in terms of reducing the visible quality of the texture. If you want something to look nicer, I would recommend one of the compressed types like RGB Compressed ETC 4 Bits vs using a crunched format. When I want very high quality, I use ASTC 4x4 block but that's also going to produce a much larger file size in your world and impact performance. Often, you have to pick and choose where you want quality.

It may have been artifacts in the bake, then. You can change the quality settings of the bake in lighting but there are a lot of factors there so I would recommend watching a tutorial or 2 on baking lights.

The big one is lightmap resolution, I usually bump that up from the default of 40 texels per unit to around 200 or 300 but that is going to make your bake take much longer depending on your hardware.

[barren spindle]

one sec, let me open up the world

this is my settings for baking

[jovial juniper]

does clientsim not work?

[vagrant shale]

Never used it but the first thing that comes to mind is you might have compiler errors stopping it from running.

[jovial juniper]

no errors, its just greyed out

and this creator compaion is shit

[vagrant shale]

You checked your console and no errors there? I don't bother with the creator companion myself, you can get the same functionality in separate prefabs

[barren spindle]

this the one with crunched textures

[jovial juniper]

i just want to test the world in unity like i do with avatars

[vagrant shale]

Yeah, I think that's a result of your lightmap settings, not your texture compression settings. Change lightmap resolution to 200 texels per unit, change lightmap size to 4096 and use the progressive GPU lightmapper if you have a GPU that can handle it.

[barren spindle]

Alright, I'll give a try later. ty for the help

[vagrant shale]

Do you know how to find your console? It should be in the bottom panel.

[jovial juniper]

this is on of the many errors this tester caused: "Assets\Samples\VRChat Client Simulator\1.1.4\ClientSimWorldTestExample\ClientSimWorldTestExampleScene.cs(20,46): error CS0115: 'ClientSimWorldTestExampleScene.GetTestSettings()': no suitable method found to override"

i followed the instructions perfectly, copy url to the "+" button under packages

now i have to remake my entire fucking project

[vagrant shale]

I don't know about that, I would just try deleting the VRChat Client Simulator folder. It sounds like something went wrong with that install but your project should still be usable

[jovial juniper]

been trying that for over 3 hours

[vagrant shale]

Does it still give you errors if you delete that folder? It's not necessary to have the client sim, it's just more convenient.

[jovial juniper]

yup

i delete one thing, it makes more errors, i delete that, it makes more

[vagrant shale]

What sort of errors? You may have unrelated errors.

But yeah, I would personally avoid the creator companion for now, it seems to be more trouble than it's worth.

[jovial juniper]

agreed

anyone know to offically set up "ClientSim"?

[left rain]

the documentation is on github

you need to have git for windows installed first, and the git.exe added to your system PATH

[vagrant shale]

VRChat is expecting people to set up path variables and that's their idea of making the tools more accessible and easy to use? Well, alright, then.

[left rain]

it's temporary until they get the creator's toolkit fully operational

otherwise you can stick to the usual SDK3 package and cyanemu for the time being

[bold ibex]

is there a shader that can replicate the PS1 vertex jitter?

https://github.com/dsoft20/psx_retroshader i found this but im not sure if it'll work in vrchat

[vagrant shale]

I plan on it. It just makes a lot more sense now why we're seeing so many people run into problems using the new tools, they just aren't ready for use by the average person but they aren't being marketed as the complex and experimental tools they are.

[left rain]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vagrant shale]

Wouldn't hurt to try and find out. Quest is more limited on shader use but there aren't a lot of limits on what PC worlds can use.

[left rain]

if you go to their downloads page they're still showing all the old stuff, with the option of the creator companion beta

[bold ibex]

i don't really bother with quest stuff tbh. i use one but for pcvr only. the link in that post is dead so i gotta figure something else out

[left rain]

i'm sure once it's out of beta it'll at least be mostly functional. in the meantime setting up your system PATH is not brain surgery, i realize it's a bit more technical than your average windows user is comfortable with but it's not the end of the world

[vagrant shale]

It's not that complicated if you pay attention and follow instructions but the language used on the announcement advertises this as an easier way to get and install these packages when it is objectively more difficult to use ClienSim than the CyanEmu package it's designed to replace

Simple, fast, and painless...

[left rain]

right there at the top

i'm sure it'll be fine once they're done. if you're using creator companion, the package management is handled for you. you only need to involve yourself with all this git stuff if you're not using the creator companion AND you want to use clientsim

[surreal nebula]

failed upload

[bold ibex]

does anyone know how to make a click door to teleport?

[iron trench]

anyone know how to resolve this?

[vagrant shale]

Yeah, making sure you're using VRCWorld and not your own Scene Descriptor is a good start.

[cold meteor]

having a problem, whenever i click into the game window to enter the information, my mouse disappears and i cannot enter anything, and the only way to get my mouse back is with the escape key

[kindred kestrel]

It turns out the root problem was vsync of all things lol

[pastel coyote]

Weird one but glad you solved it!

[long kite]

Anyone know how to make a ride for a theme park.

[sand forge]

I still need help with these errors, would appreciate any help

[neon meadow]

I have had similar problems with multiple types of video players yesterday and today.
Until now, there was nothing wrong with it.

Everything works fine on local tests.
I was able to play the video.
The video player error message is not displayed.
However, when I actually try to upload it to VRChat, I get an error message like this. ; ;

I don't know if it's the same problem, but I also want to know how to solve this problem.

And I didn't know if this was a problem with UDON ... ; ;

[austere hull]

does placing 10 huge colliders will make map load much faster than 5000 tiny ones

[gleaming trout]

Are there any easy way to maintain both quest and pc world together?
I tried both switching build or having 2 separate project and both still take a lot effort t to make some small updates

[spiral creek]

Hey I'm getting Export Exception - System.IO.FileNotFoundException

and I can't upload a world

[vagrant shale]

I hear that the creator companion allows for simultaneous building but I don't think I would use that yet. You don't need separate projects, just switch build target. The best way to make the process of switching targets faster is by keeping your project size as small as possible by only keeping the things you need in there and creating a local cache server in preferences like in the picture. You should also only be switching build targets after you've built and tested several changes and want to make sure PC and Quest are the same, not for every small change.

[vital geyser]

Is it possible to play a video that's imported into the project directly?

[vagrant shale]

No, pretty sure that isn't possible. I guess you could import all the frames and play it as a frame animation and then play the audio track at the same time but it probably won't stay synced for long.

[fervent furnace]

Hopefully my last dumb question for a while. Before I start adding functionality to this world. Is c# still allowed to be used in worlds like it used to be or does it need to be udon now? I am much more comfortable coding in C#.

[stone marsh]

C# wasn't allowed in sdk2 or sdk3. We use Udon. You can use UdonSharp, which is a C# compiler.

https://github.com/vrchat-community/UdonSharp

[fervent furnace]

I'll look into using this. I haven't built anything for vrchat for a long time. SDK2 wasn't a thing at the time. Thank you so much for your time. I should probably just bite the bullet and look more into Udon if I am going to add interactivity to stuff I build for vrchat but I will look into that compiler.

[stone marsh]

Yeah. Pretty much everything uses U# now a days. Graph is annoying for complex things. Bout everything in my world is U#

[fervent furnace]

I've always had a hard time thinking in the graph / node based structure but hey, maybe if I get good with that style it will make me a better developer.

[stone marsh]

Lol nah, just stick to C#/U# xD

[fervent furnace]

You can! How much experience do you have with LOD's?

[stone marsh]

It's also not a one size fits all, something like that will take a range of methods to keep it performant.

That totally aside, you'll have major float point errors at that distance from 0:0:0 so you'll need to do some form of trickery such as moving the world, not the player, camera tricks, using stations n animations. Etc. Allowing someone to walk a km from 0:0:0 will cause a ton of FPEs

The vrc SDK
Unity 2019.4.31f1

What about them?

[coral magnet]

Plenty of them don't use anything!
Though I heard 'magtic light probes' is fairly popular.

[stone marsh]

Post processing and bakery are really it. There's some tools to help with placing probes but they may or may not even be of use depending on your project

[coral magnet]

Post processing doesn't require any third party tools, does it?

[stone marsh]

No

[coral magnet]

(Nvidia only!)

[stone marsh]

Of course. You can use the GPU baker included with unity tho, so bakery is purely optional

It's use has both pros and cons depending on your project

Learning the base process with just unity alone is probably a good start and buying tools as you need them, rather than thinking you need to use them cuz some people use them before you understand why and when people use them.

Truly all you need to start is Unity and the sdk.

[bold ibex]

Guys

How do I make my world public?

[vagrant shale]

Are you User rank or higher? If so, there's an option to submit to community labs when publishing. If you make it out of community labs, the world is public.

[bold ibex]

Ok ok

Well I don't think I am

I just started

[vagrant shale]

It shouldn't take you long, at least if you're willing to go into...public instances 😱

[green lagoon]

https://docs.unity3d.com/2019.4/Documentation/Manual/LevelOfDetail.html

and yeah vrchat does support lods for worlds

[bold ibex]

hi im unable to upload world cause its over 50mb for quest is there anyway around this cause im compressing all textures to 512 from 2048 and its doing nothing to the mb count help plz

[left rain]

quest limit is 100mb

maybe your SDK is outdated?

[vagrant shale]

Yeah, I remember seeing a bug when the size was just increased where it was still complaining about being over 50 MB but that was months ago. Also, make sure you're making your changes to your texture in the android overrides or it won't affect the size of the Quest world.

[green lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLi52YrrDmY&list=PLPdWkxUSZ65Fp6ICrU7mIq1znAfPwMhNZ

this video tutorial shows basic world-building just using Unity

[vagrant shale]

Mmhmm, it uses probuilder which is somewhat limited vs something like Blender but it can get the job done if you don't want to learn any other programs right away. Blender would probably be the second most essential as it will allow you to create a lot more assets but you can also find a lot of assets available on the asset store or sketchfab.

[hallow sapphire]

Hello, I've been trying to upload and test my world, it worked once, but now when trying to test it I keep getting the error "System.IO.FileNotFoundException: C:/Users/PC/AppData/Local/Temp/DefaultCompany/New Unity Project (2)/scene-StandaloneWindows64-FILE-NAME.vrcw does not exist"
Does anyone know what could be happening?

[vagrant shale]

Are you using build and test or publishing?

[hallow sapphire]

I've tried both and the same thing happens

[vagrant shale]

I see, my guess was going to be that your VRChat.exe location isn't set up correctly in the builder but that shouldn't affect publishing. It's a common issue but I can't remember what the fix is.

[hallow sapphire]

Ah damn

[vagrant shale]

Can you post your whole console? I did a little searching and it seems to be just a generic error that results from other errors.

[vagrant shale]

Yeah, it looks like you've got a few errors but the "vrcw does not exist" error is just a result of the others. It looks like you're trying to do something with a blend file but it can't find blender and then there's a reference to SDK2. Are you using SDK2? Also, it seems to reference an avatar descriptor but then you say this is a world. I don't know, there's a lot going on here. It seems like you've got every possible SDK in this project when you should really just need the one.

[hallow sapphire]

I'm using SDK3 atm, I remember converting it so that it would be compatible with SDK3 and that's how I tested it the first time, but the second time I loaded my world save and tried to test it again, it won't work. I'm not really sure what most of these errors are, I'm new to unity and this is my first world

[vagrant shale]

Its your first world but you had to convert it from SDK2? That hasn't been what most people have been using to make worlds for like 2 years. I would just delete all your SDK folders and reimport the most recent world SDK and just that. Still not sure about the blend file thing, don't try to use blend files in Unity.

[near escarp]

And it's not even lightbaked

[grave zealot]

How's the general lighting/enviroment looking so far? https://vxtwitter.com/datguyfelix/status/1542328909823242240

[cobalt prawn]

I dig it! It looks very peaceful yet the colors make it feel ominous at the same time. I'm also watching Lost right now so the remote island thing is really resonating with me

[grave zealot]

Thanks, it's meant to be more mainland and just focused on a beach/giant lake. It's the Eclipse scene from Berserk

[cold meteor]

anyone able to help?

[cobalt prawn]

Take a close look at all the gameobjects in your scene hierarchy, there's probably a random script attached to something that you imported which is causing mouse lock + other stuff

[cold meteor]

is there a quick way to go through them all? I've got quite a few gameobjects

[cobalt prawn]

I mean I would just look at the ones you are not already familiar with

[cold meteor]

found it

one of the objects had a player thing that was messing it up

thanks

[cobalt prawn]

Yee nice 👍

[vagrant shale]

Fog is an option or just have the light fade to black, depends on the effect you're going for.

[cold meteor]

found a problem with colliders
some of my floor tiles have no collision while others do, both have mesh colliders set in the same way

anyone know what could be the problem?

[upper obsidian]

Check layers on objects, and mesh colliders and primitive colliders have slightly different behavior.
try not to use mesh colliders, or turn on convex on them where it allows.

[cold meteor]

what does convex do?

[solemn gulch]

it's way more optimized depending on what your mesh looks like, though it doesn't allow for inside bends

[leaden cipher]

Quick question, can I attach my primary and only spawn point to an object that moves around?

[cold meteor]

thanks

changing it to convex did nothing, still fall through

wait i dont think it should be player local layer

[upper obsidian]

Set default layer everywhere, use player locale for triggers

[cold meteor]

right

[cold meteor]

how do i make a trigger that causes an animation when clicked, rather than just toggling on/off?

[sharp bane]

Quick question, how long does it normally take for a vrchat world to leave community labs and be published?

I've been waiting 4 months now.

Only saying this because I feel like it's been a while and I should just ignore it now

[green lagoon]

that would basically be dependent on how many people visit the map

[bold ibex]

does anywone know if its avaliabl for two or more people to work on a singl.e unity project for a world

[near escarp]

You can always try publishing it again at a more opportune time of the day/week, but it's not just visits

[wicked prairie]

uhhhh idk what's going on here

uh

i see

i didn't

also do i need to have VRCWorld hidden in the heiarchy

ye

[bold ibex]

hey everyone

any highly ranked vrchat user wanna publish the map im making?

i dont have the level

if you publish it i will just have my name somewhere but full creds go to you apart from that

anyways dm me if your interested

quick preview of my model

[lament iris]

I'm making a dystopian-looking citadel.

[vagrant shale]

You only have to be User level to publish a world to community labs, it doesn't take that long to get there. Having to have someone else publish it for you and credit you just seems unnecessary when you could just wait a few days but that's just me.

[bold ibex]

ok

how many game hours does it take? (around)

[rancid bison]

What's the Damage Layer most worlds use for guns that do Damage?

[vagrant shale]

It varies based on a lot of factors like whether you're hanging out in public instances and making friends or just going into private instances on your own but maybe 12ish? I don't go into public instances so it took a bit longer for me, you can google it and find some estimates

[indigo bramble]

sdk brokey and udonsharp seems to be the problem, what did i do

[wooden merlin]

is a camera combined with a reciever different than a mirror?

[lunar moon]

got my first VRChat world (a port of the eggmanland hub from Unleashed) working

[main marlin]

hey i just downloaded a prefab and imported it but i cant find it in untiy does any one know how to find it

[vagrant shale]

You can see the name of the files/folders during the import process so you could try importing it again and everything will be unchecked since it's already there but you can see where it is. It probably created a new folder in your assets folder.

[ocean crag]

What are some visit numbers that would be considered successful for veteran publishers on new worlds? I usually get a few thousand visits and several hundread favorites but it dwindles to almost no activity usually within a week. Whats a good goal to be shooting for?

[vagrant shale]

Most of my worlds aren't made for general public use so I don't have a great answer for you but that sounds pretty decent if you're just publishing original worlds and putting them out there. If you want to have sustained activity, you need to start marketing and developing a social media presence. Creating worlds (and tagging them appropriately) related to popular IP is also going to get you more attention than a world that has no name recognition even if it's quality work. A world can be amazing in quality but if only a handful of people ever check it out organically, then you're depending on that small group to tell their friends and for their friends to tell their friends and so on which can happen but a lot of it comes down to luck.

[green lagoon]

and if it's like not a game map there might not be an incentive for repeat visits if somebody doesn't decide is cool enough to put in their rotation of hangout Maps

[ocean crag]

Thanks @vagrant shale I started a platform with my last one which has been my most successful world so hopefully that keeps a little traction going

[ocean crag]

I did make some cool board games on this one and udon games so that seems to get people to bring there friends and hang around

[languid pewter]

I've seen some worlds where you can walk at a section wall and climb it like it's a ladder (on pc) , If I was looking to reproduce that, where should I start looking?

[vagrant shale]

There's a climbing prefab in the database, maybe have a look at that https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTP-eIkYLZh7pDhpO-untxy1zbuoiqdzVP2z5-vg_9ijBW7k8ZC9VP6cVL-ct5yKrySPBPJ6V2ymlWS/pubhtml#

[bold ibex]

I'm sorry to all Italians , but i turned the coliseum into a strip club.

[languid pewter]

Thank you i will go have a look. 🙂

[bold ibex]

can someone help me?

[vagrant shale]

I can't believe you've done this, that's where I brought my bambini to see people get torn apart by wild animals.

[bold ibex]

😭 🤣

[vagrant shale]

I'm going to assume you have other errors, show us the whole console.

[bold ibex]

there was a change in era

[hazy badger]

how do I add text into my world like credits for textures and all that?

[vagrant shale]

You can create text in the inspector just like you would any object like a sphere or cube

[nocturne crown]

how bad will a quest world be if most shaders are standard?

currently, quest shaders on my world just doesnt show normal maps well :/ idk if theres any other way to fix it either

[austere hull]

i love when map takes 5 mins to load in unity and 10 mins to load in vrchat

[vagrant shale]

That depends on a lot of factors, how many materials and textures you have, number of meshes, whether the meshes are combined or all separate objects, etc. I never use the VRChat mobile shaders for worlds and I can get them over 60 FPS with fairly complex scenes on Quest 2. At least before everyone starts bringing in their very poor avatars.

[austere hull]

if you dont have huge map or huge details then it will survive

count is as 2x more rendering of everything

[nocturne crown]

i can test with quest and see how bad it is and just limit standard to things that dont need it

most things without needed normals ill prob put on quest

[austere hull]

but for few objects that i needed transparency for i used standard

for 5k of remaining objects i used quest shaders so will be less laggy

[nocturne crown]

im making a daycare map that actually looks good so i just want the playmats to have their normals showing

so it probably wont be many objects that are standard

minus the cutout ones too

[vagrant shale]

One some cases, you might be better off with a simple mesh using a normal map for detail vs a more complex mesh but you only have that option if you're baking your own normal maps.

[nocturne crown]

its mainly the playmats I want to have their normals, which isnt a ton of the map anyway

[vagrant shale]

Too much transparency can be a pretty bad performance hit so you'll want to limit that where possible. Also use occlusion culling where possible.

[nocturne crown]

im def using occlusion culling for sure

there isnt many cutouts, i use a few cut outs in my world doesnt lag at all, but yeah if its too much ill reduce them

[vagrant shale]

You can also bake all your lights into your textures using Cycles in Blender and then use all unlit materials for great performance but I think I'm the only psychopath that does that.

[nocturne crown]

damn, i didnt do that :/ way too late to even try, my computer wouldnt be able to handle baking that map anyway

it would probably take days

[vagrant shale]

Only like 20 minutes if you've got a decent PC ||for every texture.||

[green lagoon]

that wouldn't provide light probes for the avatars so that's not the way to do it

[nocturne crown]

yeah ill settle with bakery tbh

thanks for the advice but damn that would suck

[vagrant shale]

You can still use lights for your light probes and bake reflection probes, just keep the textures unlit. It's not a perfect solution for every world and you don't get any reflections from an unlit material but if you want high quality lighting and you don't need the lighting conditions to change, it's an option.

[green lagoon]

isn't that kind of result in mismatched lighting baking the World Lighting in blender

[vagrant shale]

It won't be exact but you can eyeball it. I wouldn't recommend it for most applications but we use it for our show, Welcome to Respite, and we get some pretty quality lighting if I do say so myself and often hit max FPS on Quest 2 with a fairly high number of objects.

[gaunt egret]

ay that looks cozy

[full kettle]

so i had just uploaded a world for quest and pretty much all the textures are black does anyone know how to fix this

[vagrant shale]

Are your lights baked?

[full kettle]

no i just have a skybox and thats it

[main marlin]

im trying to put in a beer pong table but the file is not being opened

does anyone know what to do

[vagrant shale]

You might want to add a light (realtime is fine for testing) and see if that fixes it. Are you using the standard shader?

[full kettle]

naw matcap

[vagrant shale]

Maybe try the standard shader just to narrow down the issue?

[full kettle]

ok

wait is there a way to get rid of a skybox

[vagrant shale]

Yeah, you can change the skybox to none or something else in the lighting tab and change the lighting source to a color or gradient rather than skybox.

[full kettle]

ok

thanks

[main marlin]

@vagrant shale the thing is it doesn’t even say its importing

[vagrant shale]

I've never used that prefab so I don't know, could be messed up.

[full kettle]

ok so i think its the texture

[main marlin]

well thx anyway

[vagrant shale]

Did it still look messed up with the standard shader? Are these models you're importing or ones you made

[full kettle]

im importing them

[vagrant shale]

Okay, so the UVs are probably fine

[full kettle]

wait i found something only one of the textures that came with the model work

[bold ibex]

does anyone know how to make a click door teleport all im finding is walk in to door teleport videos

[vernal prism]

could someone point me to VRchat 3.0 world spawn tutorial/instructions? I cant seem to figure out how to set it up correctly. I cant rotate / face players to a set direction.

[vagrant shale]

That makes sense, the others probably aren't UV-mapped for that model.

[vernal prism]

I keep getting kicked back to my home world after trying to load a new world i published. I can run it in test mode fine, but not after being uploaded. Cleared cache. Restarted client. Restarted PC. Still an issue.
2019.4.31f1 is the correct unity version right?

[vagrant shale]

It is. Are you using VRCWorld for your Scene Descriptor?

[neon briar]

help

[vagrant shale]

@low mirage Adjust the mapping in the texture settings.

[vagrant shale]

I don't recognize the error, seems like something related to reflections. Did you add something or so something recently that might impact those?

[neon briar]

the error pops up when i go to the vrcsdk panel next to the inspector tab

[vagrant shale]

Was the project working before or has it never worked?

[neon briar]

it was working before i added bottles and chairs

[vagrant shale]

Standard VRC chairs? Those probably aren't the cause so I'd try getting rid of the bottles first.

[scarlet quail]

Hi everyone! i make procedural material with substance designer is there any way to get them working in vrchat? can anyone help me with this?

[green lagoon]

exporting materials as png's

[scarlet quail]

other than that

[green lagoon]

https://helpx.adobe.com/substance-3d-designer/using/export.html

[green lagoon]

that is your only option

vrchat doesn't read SBSAR

[scarlet quail]

i know unity 2020.3.27 can use them with a plugin you think one day they will add support for that ?

[torpid agate]

where could i find this sky box or something very similar

[green lagoon]

vrchat doesn't use that version and that would just be changing when it would turn into png's

[neon briar]

i tried to delete both but it did not work

[scarlet quail]

i was hoping maybe they would add compatibility that allows varchat to use c# scripts to miniplate materials in real time

[green lagoon]

vrchat does not have any c# scripts support and what the heck would you even be doing that would require that

[scarlet quail]

stuff. what about Houdini stuff an procedural models is that supported?

[green lagoon]

you would have to turn the Houdini stuff into a 3D model to load into vrchat

what are you trying to do that requires runtime procedural generation like that

[vagrant shale]

And these materials don't have any texture options? Most materials can have a mapping node to adjust the tiling but I'm not exactly sure what process you're using to do this.

[scarlet quail]

native support for algoritmic materials is more optimized

[green lagoon]

it would still take up the same amount of vram in the graphics card

so that would literally not help vrchat in the slightest

as you can crunch compress textures to make them small download size-wise

and that would require vrchat to import a proprietary SDK

and I haven't heard it used case yet that actually requires it not just o'dear I don't want to be bothered setting up my materials properly

[scarlet quail]

nah these are algoritmic they are code based more like shaders are it doesnt load into vram like a normal texture would

[green lagoon]

well vrchat doesn't support it so there's no point continuing this train of thought

you'll have to turn your textures into png's

[vagrant shale]

This is basically the setup for that, depending on your texture coordinates.

[scarlet quail]

😔 the only way to innovate is with shaders now i guess

[scarlet quail]

hey thnx for the help anyways

[green lagoon]

I haven't heard what you're even trying to do besides wanting to skip making png's

[vagrant shale]

Yeah, you'd just change the output of the texture coordinate node if it was normals instead of UVs, I think.

[green lagoon]

and I just checked the unity plug-in and it just generates png's in the editor not running them as procedural Shader code materials at runtime

so there is no magic save vram compared to using equivalent size png's

[scarlet quail]

the idea was to have a world that can change the wear and tear on the material in Realtime to simulate rapid aging. things like Realtime moss growth and dirt accumulation paint wear and rust.

[scarlet quail]

are you looking at "Adobe Substance 3D
for Unity" plugin ?

[green lagoon]

yes

[green lagoon]

that would be more like changing vertex colors in real time to change material blending not substance painter materials

or some other Shader code driven by animation

[scarlet quail]

so when i expose a prameter in the original file it gives it to unity as a slider like any other slider like vertex color

[green lagoon]

my point is like you're going to need a custom Shader to do this not just the standard Unity Shader

[scarlet quail]

the plugin comes with its own shader that can manipulate the texture

[green lagoon]

can it do those that run time and it does it even work in unity 2019

[scarlet quail]

nah it doesn't in 19 but ive tested it in 2020 and its just so much fun to use

[green lagoon]

well we're stuck with unity 2019

[scarlet quail]

you seem to know ur stuff are you a creator ?

[green lagoon]

I haven't published any worlds but I tend to read a lot of documentation

and a follow-up question would be does the substance plug-in even use the built-in renderer

as vrchat is on the built-in renderer

[scarlet quail]

yes the renderer is the default

[green lagoon]

but yeah if you want to do that rapid aging you're going to have to look into Shader creation

[scarlet quail]

if i get good enough with shader development i can just turn these into shaders instead of textures the concept is the same

[green lagoon]

you would still be using textures in that Shader

because it's not worth the run time over head to try to completely procedurally-generated a whole substance material in the Shader

you would just want the Shader to be handling the blending between the different textures to handle the Aging effect

[scarlet quail]

simple square shapes and noise maps is all i would use

[green lagoon]

so feel free to give it a try but make sure to Benchmark your Shader because you can't spare the framerate in VR because you're scared of a little bit of vram

[scarlet quail]

its all code based even the noise maps there is no pixels involved in these

[scarlet quail]

oh yeah totally. from my personal experience using algorithmic material in unity has been giving me better framerates

[green lagoon]

and if it's helpful context I also try to do Quest content so I try not to go overboard on the complicated shaders to not melt the mobile phone processor

[scarlet quail]

yeah ur right. from what i have been seeing shader people like to do everything in shader level and not rely on textures and material artist use 5 maps in standard shader to achieve the same look. both think their method is more optimized

[scarlet quail]

i personally like to have my look made by textures so everyone in vrchat can see it

[green lagoon]

that would depend on what you're trying to optimize file size or like Shader GPU time and the average pbr setup can be done in just 2to 3 textures with Channel packing

[scarlet quail]

yeah but if competeing with the result of shader artist i want my alpha(albedo) normal metal ambient occlusion emissive and stuff

[green lagoon]

anywho you should probably go look up the stuff required to do that aging affect in your Shader

as bickering about textures versus doing a whole substance material in Shader code isn't going anywhere

[scarlet quail]

i should i also wanna see how Houdini objects perform in vrchat maybe i can use some trickery to optimize big open worlds

LODs or something

[scarlet quail]

tnx for the help lemme know if you needed work done on anything i dont get money for these i just like doing stuff

[green lagoon]

just crossed my mind what's bugging me about the procedural Shader approach you need a new Shader for each material which would increase to draw calls quite a bit whereas whip like a big texture Atlas you could shove the whole world in one material and one Shader

[green lagoon]

I suppose would entirely depend on how many triangles and materials the stuff uses as vrchat would have no concept of Houdini objects just objects you converted to fbx that was made in Houdini

[scarlet quail]

yeah it would need a shader for each material that can get out of hand pretty quick

[green lagoon]

https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/marketplace/presentation_assets/000/218/057/large/file.jpg?1570999327

[scarlet quail]

omg thats a nice map

[green lagoon]

example of like the graph complexity you would need for each Shader just because you don't want to use some png's

[scarlet quail]

yeah not all of that is exactly necessary i can reduce the size of these and remove some nodes but for what this material was made for its actually pretty optimized whoever made it reused the same noise maps and didnt do anything extra

[green lagoon]

yes but as I mentioned the draw call problem from having the swap shaders all the time might nullify any performance gains from trying to cut down vram usage

as using a 100 different shaders would be worse than using the standard Shader 100 times

[scarlet quail]

yeah but using these on every single objects is ridiculous i would use them on a wall that covers most of the world and i can reuse the same material in different places and just change some values to make it look different

[scarlet quail]

places like walls and ground these stuff make alot of sense

[green lagoon]

https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/unity/po-draw-call-analysis/ apparently some analyzation done of like the CPU cost of like shaders swapping on the quest

and like you're honestly the first person I've heard on this Discord trying to go let's try to procedurally-generated all the textures in the world at runtime

[scarlet quail]

for a realtime change in material yes but a static material this wont matter

[green lagoon]

no that's changing like a Shader altogether in the link I was providing

[scarlet quail]

yeah no if im gonna thurn these into shaders i would be carfull with how i use them

[green lagoon]

and most gamedev Studios aren't using substance materials in a matter where they're generated at runtime

like Final Fantasy 7 remake is full of substance materials but it's just a big stack of png's on the game disc

[scarlet quail]

as textures in unity 2020 these are way better than traditional textures. game devs use these textures to create vriety with the same texture and use it in multiple places instead using another material

[scarlet quail]

yeah that game is old by these standards

[green lagoon]

can you actually list a title that does your magical runtime generation of substance materials

[scarlet quail]

th intended purpose of these isnt runtime generation of material its to create procedural random material and create variety in textures without using multiple materials

no mans sky is famous title

[fervent steppe]

my bridge has no collisions although having both a mesh collider en a box collider

[scarlet quail]

for example instead of having a separate material for broken wall clean wall dirty wall and mossy wall you can have one wall that can create all these varieties without loading multiple textures into ur gpu

[hazy badger]

I downloaded a fire effect from the asset store and it came with shaders, however whenever I tried to place it, all the shaders had errors loading. Any fixes?

[vagrant shale]

Does it support the built-in renderer?

[hazy badger]

I'm not sure, idk how to tell

all I know is that the shaders look like this in the folder

[vagrant shale]

Do you have the asset store link?

[hazy badger]

I do not have a link no, all I have is the name: Enflame - Stylized Fire, Smoke, and Sparks (Shader Graph)

[vagrant shale]

Yeah, the Unity shader graph isn't supported by the built-in renderer so not much you can do.

[hazy badger]

damn, alr. Do you know any fire particle packs I can use instead that are free?

[vagrant shale]

These should work. You can check compatibility in the description of a lot of assets. https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/vfx/particles/fire-explosions/procedural-fire-141496#description

[hazy badger]

alr, thanks! I was just looking a Procedural fire actually

[vagrant shale]

Any recommendations for terrain tools that will work well for cross-platform worlds in VRChat? The built-in terrain system just seems so basic for getting any level of quality and I really don't want to have to sculpt and map my terrain in blender if I can avoid it. It's kind of expensive but I could pick this up if necessary, I just need to know if it's going to work or if it uses any scripts VRChat isn't going to like. https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/terrain/gena-pro-terrains-villages-roads-rivers-183186#description

Or do I need this one? I'm not entirely sure what the difference is. https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/terrain/gaia-pro-2021-terrain-scene-generator-193476#description

[hazy badger]

I use 3D Realistic Terrain Free by Bad Raccoon

[vagrant shale]

Okay, thanks. I guess it's free so I can give it a shot but it looks like it just includes one terrain you can't change? I'm also seeing this but it looks like a set of 5 static terrains. I have kind of specific needs for the structure of the terrain so I'm not sure something premade is gonna do the trick. https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/environments/landscapes/3d-realistic-terrain-vol-1-183198#description

[red crescent]

you'd probably want to use gaia since gena is more for spawning spline and other objects on top of terrains

[pastel robin]

Hello everyone , good afternoon !! , I have some newbie question like to ask

[vagrant shale]

$144 for a single asset. 😩 Well, I guess if it's what I need. I'm seeing it's possible to use heightmaps in Unity terrain. If I created a height map in Blender, could I use that on my terrain with decent results? The resolution just seems so low that I can't imagine getting any quality results from it but maybe that's because I'm just building it from scratch with the tools in Unity.

[red crescent]

yea that would probably be the most cost effective way since gaia is pretty pricey

[vagrant shale]

Also, it doesn't list it's compatible with 2019 so is there an older version I can use or can I generate the map in 2020 and then export to 2019?

Cool, I guess I'll play with that first before dropping the cash. The main thing I want to avoid is having to UV map the entire terrain in Blender and a height map would avoid that.

[red crescent]

Another tool you could use is mapmagic 2
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/terrain/mapmagic-2-165180#description

[pastel robin]

I have same questions like atlas but It seems not solved

[red crescent]

it uses a node system to procedurally generate terrain

and you can just remove the script after and be left with a nice generated terrain

[pastel robin]

I am trying to make a world for the first time , too
And I had the same problem ：　
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whenever I try to upload the VRC SDK3 package I get this message:

Assets\Udon\Editor\ProgramSources\SerializedUdonProgramAssetEditor.cs(51,46): error CS0104: 'SerializationUtility' is an ambiguous reference between 'VRC.Udon.Serialization.OdinSerializer.SerializationUtility' and 'UnityEditor.SerializationUtility'
」

[vagrant shale]

Awesome, thanks!

[pastel robin]

I tried to find some information with keywords, but couldn't find a solution . This question might be stupid, but I hope maybe someone knows why this is problem occurs >< thanks ...... qwq !

[fervent steppe]

my bridge still has no collisions

[pastel robin]

Also I want to ask if there are any experts who make world available for commission for making fantasy world ? I I'm not sure if it's okay to ask in discord , I've read the Rule 👉 👈

I see lots of people asking the experts for making avatars commission , and I would love to make a world for my fantasy story , too .... But I want to try to make a simple world by myself first

[vagrant shale]

@red crescent I'm not sure MapMagic will do the trick since I need to be able to define my own hills and valleys and it looks like it just gives you a procedural world without the ability to sculpt specific areas. Will Gaia 2020 allow for this or do I need Gena as well? I don't need paved roads, just the ability to make dirt paths between hills.

[red crescent]

gaia is also a generation type thing but you use stamps to stamp out terrain shapes

[vagrant shale]

@pastel robin There's the VRCTraders Discord in community servers, you can commission people there.

[vagrant shale]

So I will need to get that and Gena? I like being able to set my own terrain height with a brush, like I can with the Unity terrain, it's just too resolution even at max resolution. Will any of these tools allow me to do that? I'm working on a dark ride that has a specific path a cart needs to take with hills surrounding it on each side so I can't really use something that just gives me a cookie cutter result that I can't alter manually.

[red crescent]

gena is just for placing objects i think

[vagrant shale]

Gena says it supports roads but it looks like it means actual paved roads and I don't need those.

[red crescent]

wait so you want like a path?

if so yea gena will also do that

[vagrant shale]

But if I want to make the mountains around the path, then I need Gaia. So it's a $200+ investment, then. I may need to think outside the box with my search for alternatives.

[red crescent]

there is also a spline module for mapmagic however it does say its in beta and i havent actually used it

but you can generate mountains and place a spline which will carve out a path on the terrain

[vagrant shale]

I don't think even that will work because I need to be able to specify how the area around the path will be shaped, not just put a path through some randomly-generated terrain. I'll try the height map option first and if that doesn't work, I'll figure something out. Thanks for the help.

[red crescent]

no problem

sorry i couldnt be of more help

[vagrant shale]

Seems like Unity just doesn't want you making quality terrain, the tools are so laughably bad for that compared to most other things but maybe it's just because we're still stuck in 2019.

[red crescent]

they did try and improve it at some point but idk where that went lol

[outer matrix]

Hey, I'm getting the error of "Performance warning; There are more than 100 preview scenes." And it's preventing me from being able to even click on the VRCSDK window without unity locking up, and I cannot even click the build and test. Anyone know how to fix tyhis? Even moving to a new project does not fix this isssue.

[vagrant shale]

Looked up the error and the only easy fix I could find is going to Window -> Layout -> Revert factory settings but I'm only seeing one person reporting that worked so no guarantees.

[outer matrix]

I've done that, and it fixed nothing sadly.

It seems very unlucky for me to have an issue that was reported very very low quantities of lol

[vagrant shale]

I did find something, in case it's useful to you. If you go into the package manager, go to advanced, and then display preview packages, you can find terrain tools which includes a number of features not available with the built in terrain tools. It's still probably not as good as the paid tools but it seems a lot better than what you get by default.

[red crescent]

oh yea thats the thing

[vagrant shale]

Have you tried deleting and reinstalling Unity? That seems like a good next step to try.

[outer matrix]

I have, It's only in this project.

Any other project does not have this this error, it's only this one.

[vagrant shale]

How about exporting your scene as a package with dependencies and opening it in a new project? https://vionixstudio.com/2021/10/25/export-a-scene-in-unity/

[outer matrix]

Already did that twice, no use, still does i

it*

[vagrant shale]

Damn, that is a persistent bug. I'm running out of ideas but I guess you could just take the props and export them as a prefab. I'm sure it won't retain everything but it would be better than starting from scratch. I would imagine that wouldn't carry the curse with it but I'm not sure at this point.

[outer matrix]

Ive sadly tried starting from scratch. And It did not work whatsoever.

[vagrant shale]

I'd make a backup just to be safe but you say you have other projects that don't have this problem, what about creating a new scene within one of those projects?

Does the problem arise immediately when creating a new project or just when you try to bring in the assets from the old one? You might have a cursed asset somewhere.

[outer matrix]

Started from scratch completely.

Hell, even tried with only the map asset, still broke

[bold ibex]

i figured it out the pens i added were causing it to break

[vagrant shale]

Ah, well at least you know the source of the problem if not the solution. I've seen others have problems with those pens.

[bold ibex]

yeah can u help me fix this?

[vagrant shale]

I assume you have UdonSharp?

[bold ibex]

i really wanna add pens to my worlds

in kinda new to this so i dont know much

what is udonsharp?

ok the pens are throwing up like a million errors

[vagrant shale]

Okay, well that's a good place to start, the pens require UdonSharp. https://github.com/MerlinVR/UdonSharp/releases I would double check any documentation that came with them to ensure you aren't missing any other dependencies. You may also need to delete and reimport them after installing UdonSharp as doing it the other way around can cause problems.

[bold ibex]

ty it worked

[lapis galleon]

Is there a way to limit guest actions in your worlds? I.e. say I have a night-club setting and want guests to be able to use dance/wave/cheer, but not emojis or bats.

[fervent steppe]

i cant access the control panel anymore

[coral magnet]

Mind checking the troubleshooting page? https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/sdk-troubleshooting#the-build-control-panel-isnt-appearing-in-the-vrchat-sdk-menu-dropdown

[craggy umbra]

Does anyone know any quest compatible music prefabs

Like for playing global and not local music in worlds

[fervent steppe]

how can i fix these errors?

also the sdk is broken, is there a way i can keep all the progress i've made or do i have to restart

[bold ibex]

guys when you publish a world is it automatically adapted for quest?

[green lagoon]

don't post the same question in multiple channels

[bold ibex]

Hi y'all, it's my first time using the new SDK3 and when I imported the SDK into my new Unity world I don't see the VRChat SDK tab on the top next to stuff like "component, window, and help". Did I do something wrong?

[austere hull]

wrong version

[green lagoon]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/current-unity-version

[bold ibex]

Oh my goodness how did di miss that? My Unity must have automatically gone to the newest version I had downloaded! 🤦

Thank you very much! 💜

[bold ibex]

Guys when you publish a world for quest is it automatically cross platform?

[green lagoon]

nope you have to publish both the Windows and Android build

[bold ibex]

And than can you play cross platform?

[green lagoon]

yes once you've published both builds

[bold ibex]

Yaay

[green lagoon]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/cross-platform-setup

[bold ibex]

Thx

[iron trench]

whenever i try to load into my world, it just loads 2 times then kicks me to my home world. how do i fix this?

[solemn gulch]

does it do this on desktop?

[iron trench]

idk, I haven't tried because im putting it on quest first

[cobalt prawn]

Check to make sure you don't have multiple Pipeline Managers in your scene. You can easily do this by typing "pipelinemanager" (make sure it's one word) in the hierarchy search bar like this

There should only be one object that appears in the list, and that object should only have one pipeline manager

[iron trench]

yea it only has one

[cobalt prawn]

Hmm in that case I dunno. It would help to know what kind of assets are in your world, if it was ever working at one point, what changes you have made since then, any significant errors or warnings etc

[iron trench]

i have a 10x10x10 template that has some furniture assets along with it. I also added light sources and reflection probes and thats about it

there isn't any scripts that came with it either

and it never worked for loading into it

[uneven bane]

its a bit random question and more about curiosity, is it problematic or not recomended to have 2 different videoplayers in a small world, each with a different default video? obviously not both at 200% volume one of them would be almost mute, but i was just thinking ideas

[cobalt prawn]

Did you use the VRCWorld prefab or did you add a Scene Descriptor yourself? Either way can you screenshot the inspector for your Scene Descriptor?

[iron trench]

no i just imported the VRCWorld prefab and attached my template to it

[cobalt prawn]

Can you screenshot VRCWorld inspector

[outer matrix]

I believe this error may be the cause of the 100 previews;
"Unloading broken assembly Assets/VRCSDK/Plugins/VRC.Dynamics.dll, this may cause crashes at runtime"

[cobalt prawn]

Is there only one VRCWorld in your scene? Also can you click this and take another screenshot?

[iron trench]

yes, there is only one

[cobalt prawn]

Have you tried deleting the file it's telling you to delete?

[iron trench]

no

do i just delete it and reimport it?

[cobalt prawn]

Only delete the .meta file, not the scene file

Then Unity should make a new one automagically

You'll have to delete it in windows explorer since meta files are hidden in unity

[iron trench]

yea i found it

so then I just reupload it and see if I can load into the world?

[cobalt prawn]

I guess so yeah. I would clear the console too and see if any errors/messages are still there first

[iron trench]

ok

theres nothing in the console. is that a good thing?

[cobalt prawn]

Yes that's good, not a guarantee though

[iron trench]

ok

i'll see if i can load into it after reupload

[cobalt prawn]

🤞

[iron trench]

i'll keep you updated

[outer matrix]

Has absolutely anyone here had this issue before? With this error, and/or the performance warning of "100 or more preview scenes; code may be stopping it from releasing"?

[iron trench]

sounds familiar, but i've never worked with anything like it

[outer matrix]

Whenever I click on "set collision matrix" is when the issue first starts

[iron trench]

try deleting the asset then reimporting it

[outer matrix]

Already tried.

[iron trench]

it works, thank you, like a lot

[iron trench]

have you tried research across websites?

[outer matrix]

It's only in this project, and ive never had this before.

I have, zero result.

[iron trench]

no subreddits?

[outer matrix]

nope

[outer matrix]

Okay, I've got the precise error." Performance warning: There are more than 100 preview scenes. There might be code not releasing the preview scene after creating it."

[azure valley]

I know the requirements are prolly a lil vague on purpose, but what gets a world out of community labs exactly?

[slow leaf]

anyone know how to get the grass swaying effect on grass in worlds?

[jovial juniper]

can someone tell me why this is not letting me upload?

and this:

[azure valley]

I don't, but does it work in unity, but not vrchat?