general-media

[pseudo jetty]

XSoverlay has a graph built in otherwise idk

[mortal cove]

https://tenor.com/view/milk-and-mocha-sleep-cuddle-gif-19524328

[pseudo jetty]

Might wanna google that

[young flicker]

I've not noticed anything CPU wise being maxed on my XS Overlay when I look at it

[pseudo jetty]

Thats again usage not frametime

[young flicker]

I've asked twice where to check frametime now

[deep siren]

https://tenor.com/view/milk-and-mocha-tired-slouch-exhausted-gif-11674733

[pseudo jetty]

Um lemme try to remember

[young flicker]

Am not gunna know what to look at unless I'm told

[pseudo jetty]

I am in bed rn I cant really show

wait I can

[vale niche]

in the settings in steamvr there's an option I think under developer settings or advanced settings or something called show performance graph

[young flicker]

but still, a 1660s for a streaming setup still could use an upgrade and well, a free 3060 is a free 3060, I ain't gunna turn it down

[pseudo jetty]

Okay so when you have the cpu and gpu perf display up

at the bottom theres a little fps counter right?

[young flicker]

I think?

[pseudo jetty]

in the xsoverlay perf graphs

you click on it

Either that or directly onto cpu or gpu usage

Then it will show you how many ms it takes to compute each frame

[young flicker]

let me load up my quest and get on VRC and check

[pseudo jetty]

Lower = better

Oh god its happening again

I wanted to nap an hour ago

If you are by yourself your gpu will take longer

[young flicker]

I'll goto a random B Club lobby

[pseudo jetty]

But as soon as you enter bigger groups your cpu is likely bound to overtake

tho idk with a 1060 or whatever you said you had

[young flicker]

am mostly alone when streaming tho

I've got a 1660s

[pseudo jetty]

oh you stream

gpu might actually be better then to upgrade due to video encoding

I dont know how well obs does encoding but on discord its horrible

[young flicker]

I currently have obs on cpu encoding since vrc maxes vram and gpu usage, and when along/small group what you've explained with cpu probally isn't an issue either

obs is actually good

[pseudo jetty]

oh youll always max vram

or well 500 MB under max

[young flicker]

I'm managing 1080p 60 without bearly any issue

[pseudo jetty]

because thats how unity works

[young flicker]

having 12gb instead of 6 will be nice tho

[pseudo jetty]

it will try to allocate to 500MB below your max vram

True

an i5 10600k should be fine tho

[young flicker]

its probally faster vram too

[pseudo jetty]

I thought youd have a better gpu with such a cpu

[young flicker]

I just recently upgraded replaced my old system so

[pseudo jetty]

About as much of a meme with me and a 1060 3gb... and a i9 10900k

because I couldnt buy a 3080 lmao

[young flicker]

I used to have a I5 3570 and 800mhz DDR3 ram with slow 8 year old harddrives until recently, turns out having a PC that boots in less than 12mins with an SSD is pretty nice

[pseudo jetty]

If you buy a new gpu dont buy 3090Ti

any 3090 really

[young flicker]

well im getting a free 3060, probally wont look to upgrade past that for a while

[pseudo jetty]

Yeah for sure

[young flicker]

not till 40 serise probally

[pseudo jetty]

3060 is really nice

I am just looking at 40 in a very very very skeptical way

[devout cedar]

Meanwhile I'd like to get an nVidia GPU that's affordable

[pseudo jetty]

Because nvidias promise sounds very very very sketchy

[young flicker]

so with the cpu thing theres a "frame" thing listed too, is that what talking about?

[pseudo jetty]

yes you should able to see on both cpu and gpu

[torn fern]

Does anyone here know how to add avatars to vrchat in unity, i need help

[pseudo jetty]

click on frame

[pseudo jetty]

yep

[young flicker]

lemme goto populated world now

instead of my optimized homeworld

[devout cedar]

https://youtu.be/etRxv1Lvf1E

[torn fern]

The video tutorials don' help and i need somone to walk me trough it.

[pseudo jetty]

#avatar-help id say

[young flicker]

about even

[pseudo jetty]

Yeah

Just wanted to show that the percentages are well... deceiving

Your cpu is putting in way more work than expected by just looking at usage

Because of threads and cores

All of the gpu can work together with ease, not the case with the cpu where one thread gets way more work than the rest and because of that slows things down a lot

One of the main culprits for that is dynbones. They are single threaded and run on the main thread iirc

[young flicker]

luckily I've somewhat optimized my avatar with em mainly the entire armature of outfits I don't have on gets dissabled, along with there dyn bones and ik this works since people around me said there was a performance increase after I did it

[pseudo jetty]

Well you maybe but others are an issue too

And the world you are in

Because some people dont know how to do udon and it can cause issues

[young flicker]

If im public its usally only B Club so

[pseudo jetty]

Cont sync on everything, multiple update loops running etc

[young flicker]

yes

[pseudo jetty]

XSO best

[young flicker]

out of the box i think

[pseudo jetty]

Yeah thats just a slight bit of customization settings (for colors and backdrop)

[young flicker]

other than the spiral background on the watch

[devout cedar]

Damn, I've been away from VRC for a while and there's already new features

[pseudo jetty]

Thats not vrc

Its an overlay app

Developed by well... one of the vrc devs

[devout cedar]

My GPU would probably cry uncle

[vale niche]

so technically indirectly it is vrchat

[pseudo jetty]

Well they were not a dev for vrc when they released it

Nico my side projects are also not associated with my workplace

[devout cedar]

2019 was the year I should've gotten a new GPU and Fatal Frame 3

[pseudo jetty]

2019 was 3 years ago

let that sink in

[devout cedar]

Yes

[pseudo jetty]

I made someone break down in room of rain today when reminding them that 2020 wasnt last year

[devout cedar]

Fatal Frame 3 could be gotten for $30 online then. Now it's $100 or even $200 thanks to the retro bubble

[pseudo jetty]

emulators

[torn fern]

The chat is completely silent in avatar help 3

[devout cedar]

Maybe

[pseudo jetty]

Anything no longer commercially available I am fine with pirating ngl

[misty spindle]

Within the first week anyways.

[pseudo jetty]

If its still sold then pirating bad otherwise...

[devout cedar]

The first game crashes on the final boss when entering camera mode - unless you're in a specific spot - and PCSX2 devs are yet to fix it.

Doesn't happen on real hardware

[pseudo jetty]

Nintendo no longer sells games for the DSI so why should I buy em

Yeah you just kinda have to deal with jank and scuff

[devout cedar]

OPL on a homebrew PS2/PS3 PS2 classics emulator > PCSX2 in some cases

[pseudo jetty]

If you can pirate on original console thats the best

[devout cedar]

Tecmo could make a profit by remastering Fatal Frame 1-3 for PC, especially now that Nintendo loosened the ropes

[pseudo jetty]

also feels much nicer to play on original hardware

although I never personally done so

I dont play many games

[devout cedar]

Fatal Frame 5's on Steam now and there's always been an audience wanting to play the games

[pseudo jetty]

The worst is companies selling shit ports for like retail prices

Remakes are fine if theres at least effort but a port?

How much did nintendo try to sell old gameboy and NES ports for on their e-store?

[vale niche]

let me check on my wii u, I still have it set up lol

[pseudo jetty]

Well too much

The mario port pack is all ill mention

Three old mario games emulated pooorly with AI upscaled textures for 60 bucks

Just sad

And they get away with it

[vale niche]

virtual console nes games are like 5€ on the eshop and snes are 8€

[pseudo jetty]

Thats insane

Those games are decades old

Made for consoles that have not been sold for decades

[vale niche]

if it was like all the mario games from nes and snes, 10€ would maybe be a fair prices, but a single game? heck no

[pseudo jetty]

8 bucks for a port that took no time and effort

[jovial marsh]

how do people port things

and are u sure nintendo ported it in the ez way

like did they recode the game maybe

[pseudo jetty]

as soon as you made an emulator which is easy when you made the original console you can instantly just port all games for the console automatically

no they have internal emulators

[rancid tendon]

[pseudo jetty]

thats been confirmed by modders

[vale niche]

they sell wii games for 20€ on the eshop

[jovial marsh]

maybe nintendo's emulators are much more efficient then like dolphin or whatever

[pseudo jetty]

doesnt matter

still a huge scam

[rancid tendon]

Citra good

Citra love

[jovial marsh]

i dont see why its a scam unless they were charging more

[pseudo jetty]

8 bucks

[vale niche]

I installed an emulator on my wii u through homebrew and I think It didn't really run that much worse than the port

[pseudo jetty]

for a single snes game

that took a few mins to port as soon as the emulator was working

[jovial marsh]

I dont see the problem its just like them reselling the original game again

but now its compatiable on a newer console woohoo fun

[devout cedar]

Switch's N64 emulation

[pseudo jetty]

for a price that is... nearly as high it was when the hardware was modern

well maybe a third or so

[jovial marsh]

nearly or a third?

[pseudo jetty]

Also their emulators are usually awful

[devout cedar]

Homebrew N64 emulators run circles around Switch Online

[pseudo jetty]

I aint paying for a game that released multiple decades ago and has not changed since

[devout cedar]

and it's a shame.

[vale niche]

also worst thing is, no gamecube virtual console on wii u, if you wanted to play gamecube games back then, you'd either need to have an old wii, or use emulators to run gamecube games

[pseudo jetty]

Especially if there was no extra effort and the company is trying to extort fans

[jovial marsh]

I don't understand that mentality but 🤷‍♂️

[devout cedar]

Nintendo had it right with the Virtual Console, as they took the time to apply game-specific/hacks to get N64 games to run proper

[jovial marsh]

its just as if they were continuing support of the game

[pseudo jetty]

They no longer sell the original hardware or game

They aint tho

[jovial marsh]

"omg that ps4 game, its on ps5 now and i cant believe they changed nothing"

[pseudo jetty]

The emulator sucks and its no longer geetting updated

Thats not continiued support

[devout cedar]

There are some games that if you tried to remake them, the remakes would be terrible or lacking the magic of the original

[pseudo jetty]

Its just a way for nintendo to make money off nostalgia

[jovial marsh]

the game itself has its support continued

[pseudo jetty]

If I find a bug in lets say mario 64 that kills my save file, nintendo wont patch that now

[jovial marsh]

if

[devout cedar]

SNES games (and 2D games overall) tend to age like fine wine

[pseudo jetty]

Thats what support is

Fixing broken things

[jovial marsh]

are things broken?

[pseudo jetty]

They wont do that with ports

[jovial marsh]

what emulators outside of nintendo would fix those bugs

[devout cedar]

Depends on how much the dev cares

[pseudo jetty]

None but I aint paying for that am I

[devout cedar]

and Nintendo would do good to let fangames live

[jovial marsh]

if u want to be a pirate just embrace the pirate

its okay

[vale niche]

the point is that it's not continued support because nothing is being worked on, it's just you can run the game on another system, that's it

[pseudo jetty]

I only pirate what I cant normally buy

[devout cedar]

Piracy is what I'm looking towards until the retro bubble bursts

[pseudo jetty]

I cant buy an n64 and mario64 from nintendo and play it can I?

[vale niche]

I wanted to play touhou 6 but I could only find scalpers selling it for too much money on ebay

[pseudo jetty]

So why would I pay for it

[jovial marsh]

I guess that support in that sense is an issue but it doesnt seem like anything that major

[pseudo jetty]

8 bucks for a rom file

[jovial marsh]

alot better than the legitamate way

ALOT cheaper

[devout cedar]

Super Mario 64 is $30+ if you avoid bootlegs

[pseudo jetty]

why is that? because its no longer sold

[jovial marsh]

now they are selling it again and its cheap again

[pseudo jetty]

its lot cheap

I aint paying 8 bucks for a pooly emulated game from multiple decades ago

[devout cedar]

N64 consoles are $100+

[torn fern]

Nothing

[devout cedar]

Goldeneye's still kinda in limbo

[jovial marsh]

just seems like nintendo wants to make an easier and legitamate avenue to play old games

[pseudo jetty]

No they want money

[jovial marsh]

instead of resorting to piracy

[pseudo jetty]

Thats all nintendo wants

[jovial marsh]

of course they want money its a buissness

[pseudo jetty]

People emulating loses them money thats all its about

They dont care about making it easier

[jovial marsh]

if they make it easier less people will take the effort to emulate

[devout cedar]

If they didn't try to do the all-in-one emulation situation and they applied game-specific fixes, I'd say sure

[jovial marsh]

yea they should be more game specific

[pseudo jetty]

If nintendo actually showed that they cared maybe but they dont

[devout cedar]

But it's not hard to run Project64 on a PC. I once had a potato that handled N64 emulation fine

[pseudo jetty]

The emulator alone shows how little they care

[jovial marsh]

yea very light games

[pseudo jetty]

Most stable piece of software ever made that manages to emulate all games with no issues whatsoever

[jovial marsh]

i forgot i didnt finish fluidity yet

[devout cedar]

Goldeneye worked good. Perfect Dark.. I see your point

[pseudo jetty]

Its a rushed attempt to make more people buy old stuff

/buy switch online

[devout cedar]

Retro's never gonna die

[pseudo jetty]

Neither will emulation

[jovial marsh]

i dont like the idea of paying monthy for online

[devout cedar]

Vinyl's a thing

[jovial marsh]

i dont like the idea of paying monthy

[pseudo jetty]

Yes and they justify it with their shitty ports and new games every month

Games that take seconds to port

[vale niche]

atleast nintendo's online isn't as overpriced as xblgold/ps+

[pseudo jetty]

Maybe a few minutes to add to the library

[devout cedar]

That kind of model turned me off from getting a PS4

[pseudo jetty]

Thats why pc is superior

[jovial marsh]

yessir

[pseudo jetty]

Its more expensive but you can do whatever you want without paying extra

Heck host your own servers

[devout cedar]

The only consoles I care about are retro. I'm otherwise a PC gamer now

[pseudo jetty]

Old pokemon games and thats it

Back when they actually had content

Heart gold my beloved

[jovial marsh]

there isnt enough fighting anymore

[pseudo jetty]

Or anything

[jovial marsh]

is there still trading

[pseudo jetty]

Story, side content

I think so

[jovial marsh]

i got like half the alphabet in unowns on XY

[pseudo jetty]

The huge battle zone, two regions, the contests

[vale niche]

I remember when I was in 5th grade everyone traded pokemon xy stuff

[pseudo jetty]

God I loved heart gold

the pokewalker

god the pokewalker

my beloved

[jovial marsh]

whos a pokewalker

[vale niche]

the skinwalker pretending to be a pokemon

[pseudo jetty]

also

https://twitter.com/screenshakes/status/1479497779537920001?t=uLtZw3cJXLGPv1FoojQi2Q&s=19

Constantin Liétard (@screenshakes)

You can now play Pokemon Crystal in my avatar! 😄

Comment one of those buttons on this tweet:
Up, Down, Left, Right, A, B, Start, Select

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Twitter · Jan 7, 2022, 4:58 PM

holy fuck

why not

speaking of emulation

why not play pokemon on a twitter users pfp

[jovial marsh]

they doesnt use that pfp anymore

[pseudo jetty]

because thats what the post above is

[sick bloom]

its playing the game

[pseudo jetty]

yeah people are playing the game in his pfp via the reploes

[vale niche]

it's possible to emulate android, so what if you could emulate the quest's android version and feed it with steamvr data to play quest on pc?

[pseudo jetty]

I saw it enter the battle

[jovial marsh]

i dont see anything happening

[pseudo jetty]

oh it won

[vale niche]

you have to keep refreshing the profile to see the updated pfp

[pseudo jetty]

yeah now its in the menu

[jovial marsh]

i cant see the corners

[pseudo jetty]

click on the pfp to see full

this is amazing

[jovial marsh]

its still a circle

[pseudo jetty]

works in the app

[jovial marsh]

im on web

[pseudo jetty]

f

[jovial marsh]

i have to download img for it to be esquare

[pseudo jetty]

I love the internet

How do people come up with this

[vale niche]

probably the same way zun keeps coming up with new touhou ideas

or even sussier substances

[pseudo jetty]

Now I wanna do discord plays pokemon heart gold

[vale niche]

I don't have a quest 2, that's why I want an emulator

[pseudo jetty]

Imma try doing that when im at work school in 2 weeks

just write me a discord bot to play pokemon with

lmfao

that sounds like a nice challenge

Also time to nap

[sick bloom]

imagine

[rancid tendon]

My stomach is cramping and my mom tricked me thinking we were getting a kitten so that I'd come with her to the grocery store

[sick bloom]

Poor koda

[leaden prawn]

Hi

[empty gust]

hi! c:

[leaden prawn]

[empty gust]

VRCBot: 👀

[jovial marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-4470566

[leaden prawn]

Yeah they all come my gat5 RP server that I'm Head of Interview server

Damn😅

[jovial marsh]

rendering videos are so slOWWW

[leaden prawn]

Yeah

[jovial marsh]

i dont remeber what codec im using

[tiny lintel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/846027507413417998/928453778045280316/778984773854560278-1.gif

[jovial marsh]

the video is AVI from JPG

[empty gust]

when in doubt, .h264 .mp4

ye, common video file format

[empty gust]

or was, anyway

[rancid tendon]

I'm so bored

Someone call me

[jovial marsh]

im rendering frame by frame so I guess it is

[empty gust]

no lul, it's just another proprietary Windows video format

[rancid tendon]

[empty gust]

FFmpeg video works well in my experience, though it'll make a .mkv file iirc

[sick bloom]

Haha I am going to brutally murder everyone at wargaming

I keep getting the worst maps, the most special of special needs teammates and just good god save me

[empty gust]

ye

[jovial marsh]

i dont have that option or if there is a way its hidden in some complicated menu

[empty gust]

matroska video files are cool 'cause you can interrupt them in the middle of encoding and they'll still play

lmao

can also make .AVI/.webm/Quicktime/etc videos via ffmpeg, but

ye

h265/HEVC is cool blender natively support it pls

well just buy it :4head:
but ye lol

I'm lazy and .h264 matroska ffmpeg works for me

[jovial marsh]

how big of a difference is h264 from 5

[empty gust]

big

[jovial marsh]

they should change more then 1 number then

in the name

[empty gust]

2kliksphilip has a good video on .h264/.h265: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRIesyNuxkg
iirc .h264 compresses same-scale blocks of video, and .h265 uses differently scaled blocks, among other things

[jovial marsh]

whats difference between avi and av1

what it with similar names around here

[empty gust]

among
but in short you can get very smol video files with .h265, but it takes longer to encode

[jovial marsh]

oh right av1 is codec

[empty gust]

AOMedia Video 1 / Audio Video Interleave

ye

huh, in 2010 the US government's National Archives and Records Administration defined AVI as the official wrapper for preserving digital video

[jovial marsh]

wahdayya know

[rancid tendon]

[sick bloom]

[rancid tendon]

Mom help off topic is speaking gibberish again

[sick bloom]

[mystic jetty]

hi

[sick bloom]

why have readable usernames huh

[knotty idol]

[jovial marsh]

170/250 frames

[empty gust]

blender b' chuggin'

[misty spindle]

[jovial marsh]

this is the moment where i wish I invested in a better laptop

or a desktop

[empty gust]

which render engine are you using? o:

[rancid tendon]

age 15

Shocker

[jovial marsh]

cycles with gpu+cpu and i think CUDA

its denoising each frame i think thats slowing it the much

[empty gust]

think you can only use one or the other with cycles? might be wrong on that
and ye, denoising can take t i m e

[sick bloom]

Oh

[misty spindle]

Waste-like apes creaturing their throw.

[jovial marsh]

OHH yea your right i think so my GPU renders the light bounces and my cpu denoises

and because my cpu is just a 4core i5-9300H its slow

[empty gust]

yeye you could do that depending on the denoising method you're usin'

[jovial marsh]

oh i just checked the denoising box lol

i dont know how to use the compositor

[devout cedar]

I took a peek at Yahoo Auctions Japan

Even the Japanese know how sought after the Fatal Frame games are

The first FatFra game can be found for $50+ and Fatal Frame 2 ain't too bad either

But gotdamn did the third game see a price increase

[brazen basalt]

it is almost time

i can sense it

feel it

[lusty spruce]

soon™️

[brazen basalt]

very soon™

and yknow what pea

im not sharing it

this batch of chili is huge

[lusty spruce]

boo hoo

[brazen basalt]

but we're using peppers i dont think exist there ☹️

[lusty spruce]

you mean!

[brazen basalt]

i cant control what peppers polandville has, pea

[lusty spruce]

but I can!

[knotty idol]

[misty spindle]

[brazen basalt]

okay pea fine

all you have to find is morita chiles

[lusty spruce]

will do

[brazen basalt]

:U

how

poland doesnt even have food

[empty gust]

how dare you speak of chili, now I want chili

[brazen basalt]

well here's what ill do for you Z

i will

taunt you

[empty gust]

rood o:<<

[brazen basalt]

brb getting something

[sick bloom]

[lusty spruce]

wdym Poland has me and I am a full course meal!

[brazen basalt]

smooth 🤣

still has a few hours left but its getting there

[empty gust]

hungry zuvali noises

hecc this I'm gettin' food

[rancid tendon]

What the fuck is that

[sick bloom]

waw dont be so rude koda

[empty gust]

chili

[rancid tendon]

Not being rude I asked a question DON

[sick bloom]

But you immediatly said what the fuck is it!, thats a rude way of asking!

[rancid tendon]

Doesn't look like chili to me

[empty gust]

meat stew with (some) vegetables, spicy stuff, and meat

actualchililooksalotdifferentfromcannedchili

[rancid tendon]

My kind of chili is thick, lots of beans

I know smh

There's different kinds of chili fyi

[empty gust]

ye

[rancid tendon]

I like Texas chili

Hearty, thick, meaty

[empty gust]

cincinnati chili sounds blasphemous

well, the chili itself is probably fine, putting it on spaghetti with concerning amounts of cheddar cheese isn't

[rancid tendon]

It's so gross

Like having some ditalini noodles in it is fine but SPAGHETTI?

[brazen basalt]

You've never made it, have you.

Or at least I assume you haven't, since in-progress chili (like most stewed things) takes a long time to make properly, and rarely looks like the finished product so far out from completion.

[rancid tendon]

I have. Look up Texan chili.

[brazen basalt]

You don't recognize in-progress chili.

It thickens up.

[rancid tendon]

It does, yeah, but I don't use that much broth.

[brazen basalt]

k

[balmy lion]

Psssst. Sach. 👀

Accep.

[brazen basalt]

accept what

[balmy lion]

Request.

[empty gust]

chili with beans : good
chili with no beans: anger

[brazen basalt]

accept nothing >:U

what request, dont have one lol

[balmy lion]

On VRC, boi. Unless you never got it.

[empty gust]

hi!

[brazen basalt]

duh

[brazen basalt]

oh i literally never check those

[empty gust]

got distracted with chili talk and I still haven't gotten food
I blame all of y'all

[balmy lion]

Oh. Welp.

I was gonna bribe you with nachos.

[brazen basalt]

cant, got chili on the way

[empty gust]

bribe him with soap it'll work too

[brazen basalt]

its too late for nacho bribery 🤣

[balmy lion]

Soap might do well, too.

[brazen basalt]

I can't help your broken genes, Z

[rancid tendon]

@jovial marsh u need something mate? Why the friend request

[brazen basalt]

ppl comin up in here pretending to be texan

smh my head

[rancid tendon]

Who?

[brazen basalt]

you

[rancid tendon]

I'm not pretending to be texan lol I'm from Chicago

[brazen basalt]

...and talking about texan chili, right

[empty gust]

am texan, have seen in-progress chili

[brazen basalt]

that cant be true Z

if you were

you wouldnt have broken genes

[balmy lion]

You're Texan, Zu?

[empty gust]

ye

[balmy lion]

Pog.

[brazen basalt]

I'm originally from there. Wife too.

[balmy lion]

Time zone checks out.

[rancid tendon]

That's. The type of the chili

It doesn't have to be strictly eaten or made by Texans to be texan chili

[brazen basalt]

It kinda does lol

[jovial marsh]

i need help my vrchat is not working

[brazen basalt]

Or at least, whatever you're getting that you're calling "texan" chili is probably some generic form of the literal thousands of variations we have.

[rancid tendon]

Ok?

It tastes good, recipe calls it a texan chili, idk

[brazen basalt]

I'm making a point that telling me to look up cuisine from my native area is a bit facetious. :p

[empty gust]

my soapcilantro radar is fine tuned to avoid soap leaf plant
not a whole lot of foods have it thankfully lmao

[brazen basalt]

It'd be like me telling you to look up chicago dogs, like you didn't know what they were.

[balmy lion]

Soap grows on leaves?

[rancid tendon]

I didn't know you were from Texas mate.

[jovial marsh]

so when i downloaded it on steam it it says to put in a code or some thing

[empty gust]

also ye "texan" chili sounds vv genericized

[rancid tendon]

Sorry for not reading the biography

[empty gust]

practically does with The Plant

[jovial marsh]

no its not my pc

[brazen basalt]

Nothing wrong with a genericized form of the food, it happens. That's the evolution of sharing food. 🤣

but

[jovial marsh]

its vrchat

[brazen basalt]

you mean the best plant

[empty gust]

This isn't a VRChat channel - try asking in #user-support-old with a screenshot of the issue?
If you mean a captcha, fill out the captcha

[jovial marsh]

ok but what is the chartpa

[empty gust]

the best plant for poisoning people with soAP yes

[jovial marsh]

sorry im new here

[balmy lion]

[stares in Taco Bell]

[rancid tendon]

Mmm taco bell

[brazen basalt]

./help how to ban artemus forever

oops

[balmy lion]

D:

[empty gust]

a captcha is usually an obfuscated string of text that you have to clearly write out elsewhere, i.e de-obfuscate
the term generally refers to programs/tools to distinguish bots from humans though

[empty gust]

taco bell can't afford cilantro

[rancid tendon]

I partake in my fair share of Mexican cuisine, hell half my family is Mexican, but there ain't nothing quite like a mountain dew and a burrito from taco bell at 1 am

[jovial marsh]

so what do i put in

[brazen basalt]

taco bell is great for what it is - cheap and easy food 😤

[rancid tendon]

Facts

As a poor person I agree with this statement

[brazen basalt]

mood XD

[rancid tendon]

Aren't you in your 30s mate?

[brazen basalt]

bout a decade off

[empty gust]

If you're shown a string of obfuscated text, put the non obfuscated text in the box next to it lol
also again, #user-support-old

[rancid tendon]

Woof

[jovial marsh]

ok

[rancid tendon]

Am I really doomed to be poor forever

[brazen basalt]

nah. i was poor up until uh

i guess around 2010-ish?

its been awhile now, dang

[rancid tendon]

I grew up poor + lived in cities my whole life soooo

[jovial marsh]

yea

[rancid tendon]

Bound to be poor for awhile

[brazen basalt]

yea know the feeling tbh. we were dirt-ass poor for a very long time

getting any kind of good income was honestly jarring for years lol

[jovial marsh]

using one right now

[brazen basalt]

still is sometimes. i get nightmares about us ending back up in places where we had to sleep on the floor

[rancid tendon]

Grew up in a 1 bed 1 bath apartment outside Chicago until I was about 5, then moved to a small town in the suburbs and lived there for 11 more years. Finally in a nice home and I'm 18, which means I'm going to be poor again soon when I move out :')

[brazen basalt]

nah you're in a good spot really, can jump off of that

though ngl if you can ditch illinois, probably a good plan to XD

[rancid tendon]

I'm gonna leech off my parents

Moving to Vancouver and they're willing to pay my rent n student loans

[brazen basalt]

woot

[rancid tendon]

Oh absolutely. Ditching the Midwest in general is the best idea anyone has ever had.

[jovial marsh]

its just a blank screen so even if i do a screen shot you would not see it

[rancid tendon]

I call them the lifeless tax leech states

[brazen basalt]

PNW's a great place to kick off a tech career too, if youre headed in that direction

[rancid tendon]

Going into psychology actually

[brazen basalt]

great place for that too 🤣

no shortage of clients

[rancid tendon]

Interesting

[jovial marsh]

reset

[rancid tendon]

Either way I lived in Indiana for a bit

[jovial marsh]

or restart

[brazen basalt]

And I'm glad. The world needs more quality psychologists.

[rancid tendon]

Sucked booty, not goin back

[jovial marsh]

restart ok

ok

yea

[rancid tendon]

The best psychologists come from people who can relate and want to give back what they've learned through their experiences to their community.

[jovial marsh]

yea

[rancid tendon]

[brazen basalt]

hell yea man, full agree

[jovial marsh]

ok let me get on

it

[lusty spruce]

aight cleveland it is

[rancid tendon]

Although I will say, it's not healthy to enter the field of psychology unless you're stable and know you won't get too attached to clients. There's a certain level of empathy that you need to cut off at.

[rancid tendon]

NO

Do not go to Cleveland, it's pretty much off brand Detroit

[stuck crest]

pizza with juice is great

[rancid tendon]

If you're trying to get shot up just say so

[lusty spruce]

I love the Cleveland song ngl

[rancid tendon]

Deep dish pizza and root beer

[lusty spruce]

"at least we're not Detroiiit!"

[stuck crest]

no root beers here

[rancid tendon]

Wait that's an actual thing? Lol

[lusty spruce]

the song?

[rancid tendon]

Yeah

Haven't heard of it

[lusty spruce]

https://youtu.be/oZzgAjjuqZM

[rancid tendon]

Oh hell yes

[sick bloom]

[rancid tendon]

"buy your house for the price of a VCR"

The kids won't understand that one

[empty gust]

sach may have chili, but I have sosig

[rancid tendon]

I require deep dish pizza now sigh

[empty gust]

deep dish chili sosig pizza

[stuck crest]

now the question is does mustard belong on pizza?

[rancid tendon]

No wtf

[brazen basalt]

pea that video is slanderous and misleading

[empty gust]

oh, people actually have made chili pizza

[brazen basalt]

i cant believe youd link that

[bronze anchor]

They double wont get it with the insanely high house prices

[rancid tendon]

True

[brazen basalt]

Here, I'm gonna link an actual accurate tourism video pea, so you can learn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM

oh wait you linked pt2 XD

thought you linked pt1

rip

sachfail

[empty gust]

lmao

[jovial marsh]

L

ratio

[empty gust]

also I learned of chili pizza so therefore y'all must suffer too

that's a chili pizza, with jalepenos and sour cream

[brazen basalt]

tf

burn that

[rancid tendon]

Ok actually sincerely fuck off

[empty gust]

^

[rancid tendon]

That looks like it was scraped off the booth seat of a chuck e cheese

[lusty spruce]

screw you all I'm hungry

[rancid tendon]

Same

Now that you've shown us that atrocity

[brazen basalt]

pea ffs i gave u nacho recipe

[lusty spruce]

i know a really good pizzeria but it's like an hour drive

[brazen basalt]

go make it you lazy shit

[rancid tendon]

[lusty spruce]

W O W

[bronze anchor]

How about this then
A pizza Shoarma

[brazen basalt]

dont wow me, you have food 🤣

[rancid tendon]

That looks like a bird shat on it

[lusty spruce]

BRUH

[bronze anchor]

Its garlic sauce

[rancid tendon]

Wtf

[brazen basalt]

......is it though

[bronze anchor]

Yes

[lusty spruce]

because of that i'm not making nachos

[rancid tendon]

|| ||

[brazen basalt]

I fail to see how anyone but you suffers from that decision 😛

[bronze anchor]

Its the super watery version of garlic sauce they give here on those pizza's
They taste super strong though so its fine

[rancid tendon]

Glizzy juice

[empty gust]

in Sweden there's banana curry pizza

I would show an image but I can't find one that's like even half-okay looking lmao

[stuck crest]

https://tenor.com/view/21-pizza-hot-pizza-delicious-gif-12680508

[empty gust]

like it all looks diseased

so take this pizza with mayonnaise on it from Domino's Japan instead

and..bell peppers?

[bronze anchor]

That aint mayonaise

I refuse to believe that

[empty gust]

It's a pizza with onion, corn, potato, pancetta, paprika and mayo

not sure what the green and red bits are

they also have an avocado shrimp pizza, with tomatoes, pancetta, shrimp, mayo, and 'avocado sauce'

which sounds like guacamole to me but probably isn't lmao

[brazen basalt]

"mayo"

[rancid tendon]

You're going to make me cry stop sending this garbage I swear to God

[empty gust]

apparently mayonnaise in Japan is tangier/sweeter than American mayo, so maybe that helps kinda

"helps"

[rancid tendon]

Mayo is also different in France

So is ketchup

[devout cedar]

I've had Japanese-style mayo. Tasted no difference

[urban nymph]

Thought it was supposed to be sweet?

[rancid tendon]

That's literally a lie. Ketchup is not meant to have so much sugar. It doesn't have nearly that much in France.

[urban nymph]

No Japanese mayo

[devout cedar]

Catsup

[jovial marsh]

american foods tend to have more sugar in general

[rancid tendon]

[urban nymph]

It's really gross

[devout cedar]

I never knew what it was for decades and now just learned that it's an alternate name for 'ketchup'

[urban nymph]

🧐

[devout cedar]

A lot of American foods have high fructose corn syrup

[jovial marsh]

yeeee

[urban nymph]

Different tastes

[rancid tendon]

Literally all of our cereal has sugar in it lol

[urban nymph]

God American cookies are the devil too

[devout cedar]

Even the "healthier" ones

[rancid tendon]

I eat og Cheerios. Still has sugar.

And it's supposed to be good for you

[devout cedar]

It's weird that sweet/sugary stuff is fine for 'breakfast' but not any other time

[urban nymph]

Even some healthy beverages have so much awful stuff in them

[rancid tendon]

Because it's cheap, and makes things taste good. It makes things easy to sell.

[rancid tendon]

Juice is a huge culprit of this. Especially those super expensive healthy smoothie things.

[weary tusk]

nope, it's gross alright

[empty gust]

ketchup usually refers to tomato ketchup now, but it used to refer to lots of sauces

like mushroom ketchup especially

[devout cedar]

Looking back as a kid, those chicken nuggets, corn dogs, TV dinners I had were not good

[weary tusk]

it's an open discussion, don't think i didn't know that 😂

[urban nymph]

Facts, better off making your own stuff most of the time.

[balmy lion]

I seen a bottle of "Tomato Blood" at the store today.

[rancid tendon]

Boxed mac and cheese is not the same as it used to be I swear

[devout cedar]

Chef Boyardee and Spaghetti-Os

[orchid laurel]

yo what bottle of tomato blood? what

[rancid tendon]

[weary tusk]

(bad) sugar makes me nauseous so i just... can't eat much and vegetables are literally one of the best things

[rancid tendon]

You mean added sugar/high fructose corn syrup

[devout cedar]

Banquet dinners and french fries never agreed with my digestive system then

[weary tusk]

yeah that's bad sugar

[rancid tendon]

Natural sugars are good for you, your body actually needs some of them

[weary tusk]

lol

[orchid laurel]

what are you guys talking about?

[weary tusk]

duh

[rancid tendon]

Nutrition

[weary tusk]

that's why I said bad sugar

[orchid laurel]

oh

[devout cedar]

Pizza rolls were another bad "kid dinner"

[rancid tendon]

Not everybody knows that. We hear bad things about carbs, sugar, and fats all the time

[rancid tendon]

Pizza rolls ARE STILL GOOD SHUSH

[sick bloom]

food

[devout cedar]

Hot Pockets too

[sick bloom]

Nothing you americans create will ever be as good as frikandel

[weary tusk]

like how fats are good for you but you don't want any saturated or trans fats because those are the bad ones

[rancid tendon]

🥱

Deep dish pizza >>>

[weary tusk]

deep dish pizza 🤢

[rancid tendon]

Bro literally shut up

Ur opinion is invalid

[weary tusk]

you wish

[rancid tendon]

I will not let anyone talk shit about deep dish unless they've tried Lou malnatis

[devout cedar]

Kid Cuisine and Lunchables were especially bad, health-wise because of the sugary desserts included

[weary tusk]

deep dish eaters be like "oops i spilled my pizza"

[maiden oak]

Anyone up for some pavlov

[sick bloom]

I introduce, frikandellenbrood

[devout cedar]

Go-Gurt and Danimals

[sick bloom]

good snack

[rancid tendon]

Is that a hot dog baked inside a strudel

[weary tusk]

deep dish has too much tomatoes
tomatoes make me sick

[rancid tendon]

I hate tomatoes. Trust me. But Lou malnatis cooks them and seasons them so perfectly they don't even taste like tomatoes

[weary tusk]

even when I've had amazing deep dish, it's still made me incredibly nauseous

[sick bloom]

Not even close

[devout cedar]

http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/2013/gallery/50-things-millennials-know-that-gen-xers-dont-20131206/go-gurt-0097360/127327/_original/1035x557-gogurt-1800-1386348885.jpg

[sick bloom]

Frikandel inside of a type of bread but its basically the same stuff as a croissant

[rancid tendon]

Sounds like a lot of food makes you nauseous. Are you a picky eater or have digestive issues?

[devout cedar]

I remember Fruit Roll-Ups

Ring Pops

[weary tusk]

I'm not very picky, I'll eat something as long as it tastes good
deep dish, to be fair, does taste good, but all of the sauce upsets my stomach

[rancid tendon]

Interesting. The cheese does upset my stomach but I can't resist. I absolutely love cheese, so much so I had uh.. some problems as a kid lol

[devout cedar]

I had a thing for Fun Dip and Pixy Stix

[weary tusk]

sweets mostly make my stomach upset too, as well
i can't eat more than, at most, a quarter of a chocolate bar before getting sick

[rancid tendon]

That's odd, maybe you're lactose intolerant or something along those lines

[devout cedar]

Willy Wonka Nerds ropes

[weary tusk]

i am lactose intolerant but it doesn't upset my stomach 😂

[rancid tendon]

Oh?

[weary tusk]

i can smash an entire plate of cheese and be fine

[rancid tendon]

LMAO

[weary tusk]

the aftermath isn't very good but... eh

[devout cedar]

I can't chug chocolate milk, else my stomach has a fit later

[weary tusk]

i love dairy, cheese is one of my favorites

[rancid tendon]

Same here

If I was lactose intolerant I simply would not care

I would force my body to ingest more until it stopped being a pussy

[weary tusk]

lactose intolerance doesn't upset your stomach, it just gives you horrible diarrhea 😂

[devout cedar]

Growing up in the 2000s, soda and juice were the go-to drinks

[rancid tendon]

Soft cheese, firm cheese, string cheese, cheese dip, queso, mmm all of it is so good

[rancid tendon]

Not necessarily true, there's different levels of it

Some people are legitimately deathly lactose intolerant

[weary tusk]

i feel like if you get deathly lactose intolerant, you're just allergic to dairy

[rancid tendon]

True

[devout cedar]

I used to LOVE A&W/Barq's Root Beer and Cream Soda as a kid

[rancid tendon]

I'm 18 and love root beer.

[weary tusk]

lactose intolerant is never fatal, it's just an allergy if it is

[devout cedar]

Now I'm all about Dr. Pepper and the occasional Coke

[rancid tendon]

I wasn't aware of this. Had an ex who claimed lactose could kill him but it was just intolerance, not an allergy

[weary tusk]

unpopular opinion but soda is fucking disgusting

[devout cedar]

I mean, it's hard to quit

[rancid tendon]

Actually agree with this. Most soda is horrible and makes me feel like garbage, especially coca cola

However, root beer and cream soda have special places in my heart

[weary tusk]

i quit cold turkey after 15 years of drinking it

I'll only drink a soda if i feel especially devious that day :>

[rancid tendon]

Heh

[weary tusk]

i just drink water now

[devout cedar]

I made the switch to water when I was living with my granddad from 2011-2019

[rancid tendon]

I drink water and milk but used to drink a shit ton of orange juice oddly enough

[weary tusk]

I love milk
i drink lactose free though because it's the only good lactose free item ever

[devout cedar]

Then I fell bad into old habits because my parents always have soda in the house

[rancid tendon]

I've had some good lactose free ice cream

[weary tusk]

lactose free yogurt is an abomination, same with the ice cream because it's not the same :(

[rancid tendon]

Grosssss yogurt is nasty

Always tastes spoiled to me

Sour cream is starting to taste that way too

[weary tusk]

lactose free yogurt actually separates because the lactose is what holds it together

[rancid tendon]

The only yogurt I can tolerate is whipped

[weary tusk]

70% dark chocolate slaps

[rancid tendon]

Funnily enough I think lactose free yogurt might be the only kind I could tolerate

The milk in yogurt tends to make it taste spoiled

[rancid tendon]

Agree

As I got older it went from milk chocolate to white chocolate and now dark

[weary tusk]

i like white chocolate in moderation, same with milk

[rancid tendon]

White chocolate peppermint bark makes me cry it's so good

[bronze anchor]

Nah just fucking destroy that stomach and keep eating those milky treaths

[weary tusk]

i swear as kids we used to be able to tank the most sweet shit and now when we get older we can't handle sweet things 😂

[rancid tendon]

The fact I used to be able to eat SMORES is insane to me

That's so much sugar

[weary tusk]

I'll eat one smore and that's it

[rancid tendon]

I can't even eat marshmallows anymore

[weary tusk]

mostly for the graham crackers but

i will agree marshmallows make me nauseous as well

[stuck crest]

[jovial marsh]

are you supposed to be able to use the USB A ports on your monitor for anything but charging stuff

because it would be convienent if I could plugin my mouse into it and have it work but it dont for me

Laptop ---> HDMI ----> Monitor

[empty gust]

charge-only USB ports are a thing, ye

[full forum]

i JUST learned that my laptop charging port doubles as a usb c port

:|

[jovial marsh]

it has SS and the weird 3 pronged icon next to port

[empty gust]

some systems'll have high-amp USB ports too

[jovial marsh]

i thought the 3 prong thing means data

[sick bloom]

[empty gust]

that just means USB

SS means SuperSpeed

[jovial marsh]

SS implies data right

[empty gust]

which should support data

ye

[jovial marsh]

can u plugin ur mouse to ur monitors usb ports and have it work

[empty gust]

should then ye

thought you tried it and it didn't work or something lol

[jovial marsh]

yea doesnt work it doesnt even do the plug n play sound

[empty gust]

but ye if they're data ports, they'll work

..or should, nevermind

[sick bloom]

Also, appelflap

[empty gust]

oo, apple and pastry is always a good combo

[rancid tendon]

Wait are there two fayes

[full forum]

are there?

[rancid tendon]

Apple strudel?

[rancid tendon]

@weary tusk haha yes there are

[sick bloom]

basically yeah

[full forum]

sick

i guess im faye 2 since im faye less than 3

rly thought that was gonna be the original joke LMAO

[empty gust]

that joke made me exhale slightly more than usual so it was good

[weary tusk]

yes hello!

[brazen basalt]

help

[empty gust]

has there been a chili issue

[brazen basalt]

there has

its gone

idk wat to do

[empty gust]

all of it? :monkas:

[brazen basalt]

i mean it was a huge pot, there's still enough for tomorrow 🤣

but my bowl

[empty gust]

was gonna say, lmao
that is still a critical issue thoughe

obtain more

[brazen basalt]

i would but wife wont let me

says i "dont know when to stop eating" and "will eat the whole pot" and "hits me with a wooden spoon"

[rancid tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/office-gif-20038284

[brazen basalt]

god that scene kills my soul every time

[full forum]

literally what i was thinking

[weary tusk]

NOO that shit looks good
well, more like poop, but I'd eat it

[empty gust]

that looks like he trapped some chili in the pot, the logical solution is to cut the bottom off the pot and eat the Still Good Chili™

This isn't a VRChat channel, that'd be more suited to #user-support-old
that's the Unity crash handler though

[rancid tendon]

Vrchat was made with unity.

[acoustic cradle]

subscribehttps://youtu.be/kPk7K9OgwUI

[full forum]

#shameless-self-promotion

[acoustic cradle]

yes inded

[balmy lion]

Why does bot not work half the time? D:

[sick bloom]

bot stupid

[severe wolf]

Whats your narrators vrc name I wanna see if I met the real one

[balmy lion]

Pretty sure he's changed his name already.

[devout cedar]

That's called having an 'iron gut'

[rich mulch]

Guys do you just crawl on the ceiling?

Or is that just me?

I only do when I’m sleeping tho

[rancid tendon]

No

[rich mulch]

You should it’s comfortable

[rancid tendon]

Not a spider

[sick bloom]

Imagine

[rancid tendon]

Shut up don you like ship girls

Invalid

[sick bloom]

Such a rude little creature

I just think they look cute!

[rancid tendon]

Shut the up

[sick bloom]

shush you

[tidal umbra]

using vr to chat in the vr chat server

[fast pelican]

That's an awful way to type tbh

[empty gust]

worst typing UI would be speech-to-text, but it only recognizes individual characters

[rancid tendon]

Put me down imbecile

[sick bloom]

No you're staying up here until you calm down

[rancid tendon]

[sick bloom]

[rancid tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/love-amagami-ss-angry-bite-gif-19746583

[sick bloom]

[rancid tendon]

NO

[sick bloom]

Yes

If you're gonna make fun of what I think is cute again I will pick you up again

[rancid tendon]

Then I just won't talk to you

[sick bloom]

So rude

[knotty idol]

[rancid tendon]

[sick bloom]

git gud

[rancid tendon]

[sick bloom]

[stuck crest]

[rancid tendon]

[sick bloom]

Hi fooner

[stuck crest]

hello...

[knotty idol]

Beat him up fooni!

[rancid tendon]

HELP ME

[stuck crest]

dislike it when a friend just completely ghosted you again, so sad

the truth will never be revealed

[sick bloom]

[rancid tendon]

Aww :( sorry to hear that

[knotty idol]

[stuck crest]

thats what you called insecurity folks, too sensitive or doesn't have the courage to say anything or open up

[sick bloom]

poor fooner

[knotty idol]

Sounds like me

[stuck crest]

well i don't mind if they leave, but at least give a notable heads up or a notice?

[sick bloom]

chicky says stuff and then deletes it

[rancid tendon]

[rancid tendon]

Can confirm

[sick bloom]

what kind of sussy stuff does he tell you

[rancid tendon]

@empty gust you butthole

[empty gust]

c:

[rancid tendon]

Uhhh things I can't repeat here

[sick bloom]

Chicky is the sus

[knotty idol]

Whaaa, I never delete a message

[rancid tendon]

🤨

[balmy lion]

You got called a butthole.

[sick bloom]

uhuh

[knotty idol]

Whaaa, I've never said anything sus to her

100% wholesome

[sick bloom]

Suuuure

[rancid tendon]

I can screenshot y'knowwww

[knotty idol]

I'll go grab my lawyer and he can confirm

[empty gust]

I've been pwned

[knotty idol]

illegal

[empty gust]

don't think anyone's actually said 'pwn' in the past 10 years

[rancid tendon]

Actually- wait holy shit it's 2022..

[empty gust]

:sadge:

[knotty idol]

[sick bloom]

[rancid tendon]

I'm getting old..

I gotta go lie down on my recliner and contemplate

[knotty idol]

You were already old

[rancid tendon]

Shut the fuck up you geriatric bitch

[sick bloom]

I am old, I sleep wrong and I wake up with pain

what the hell is a geriatric bitch

[knotty idol]

A bunch of old people

[rancid tendon]

Geriatric = older than elderly

[knotty idol]

This isn't a care home you guys

[full forum]

speaking of.... i just lost the game

[rancid tendon]

YOU BITCH!

[empty gust]

you
you

[full forum]

[rancid tendon]

I had a real streak going for me ya know!

[sick bloom]

what

[rancid tendon]

Don hasn't heard of the game?

[sick bloom]

No

[rancid tendon]

Here are the rules of the game

You lose if you think about the game

The end

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(mind_game)

[sick bloom]

waw

I do not care

[empty gust]

VR phantom pain's not a thing

[rancid tendon]

Beat ya to it bub

[empty gust]

lul

[rancid tendon]

It technically is. It's made possible by the placebo effect. If you believe it hard enough, it becomes real.

If your brain sends false fires to your nerves and tells you "oh shit this hurt" you will feel legitimate pain

[full forum]

i booped a friends nose once and it made them sneeze

[empty gust]

yes and no

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i felt bad bc it took them a bit but they could feel it coming for awhile

[rancid tendon]

Sneezes feel good

Hiccups on the other hand? Satan's work

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i almost never get hiccups

[rancid tendon]

I get random hiccups all the damn time. Just one or two hiccups every now and then. And then like twice a month I'll get extreme hiccups where I sit and hiccup for hours or until I fall asleep

[empty gust]

I haven't been able to find a single trustworthy source even mentioning it, let alone saying it happened. There's plenty of sources on what's commonly called phantom touch (i.e the body transfer illusion) and VR, and using VR to treat amputees facing symptoms of actual phantom pain, but nothing about VR causing felt pain in people
plus the few really shaky explanations people that have 'felt' it gave really don't give me any confidence in it

one person who claimed they had it also claimed that their friend hacked murder 4 to have 200 people in it

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[empty gust]

VR vest that literally tases you

[rancid tendon]

Phantom pain in terms of limb loss is very real. It makes you believe the limbs are still there. However, this may also be able to translate over into VR. For example, maybe being able to feel a tail even though you don't have one

[empty gust]

that's the body transfer illusion, not phantom pain

[rancid tendon]

It's called phantom pain

[empty gust]

phantom sense and phantom pain are actual medical terms used to describe things that amputees feel

[empty gust]

it's not lol, that's phantom sense

[rancid tendon]

Or, phantom limb pain.

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i get like 50% phantom touch

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feeling it in a virtual limb/thing that isn't attached to you is the body transfer illusion

[rancid tendon]

That's what I said-

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wish it was more

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a common example of that is the rubber hand experiment

[rancid tendon]

The rubber hand experiment is so fucked up

I wouldn't be able to participate

[empty gust]

yes, I'm making the distinction between actual phantom sense/phantom pain and what people claim to feel in VR

[rancid tendon]

Ah I see

When people in VR say they have phantom pain it makes me cringe quite a bit I will admit

[empty gust]

body transfer illusion stuff in VR is absolutely a thing, there's tons of studies for it and heck I feel it lol ye
but phantom pain holds no weight from what I've found

[rancid tendon]

I dunno, I kinda believe it just because I don't want to be told my friends are liars.

The only thing I've been able to "feel" in VR is temperature and soft things

I get legitimate goosebumps in "cold" worlds

[full forum]

i feel ppl close to me

nothing too specific

[sick bloom]

I feel like after a while in vr you just forget you're in vr no matter the anime girls

[nova fjord]

the hard truth;;

[devout cedar]

Why are there two fayes?

[full forum]

who knows

[sick bloom]

both are cring

[devout cedar]

League

[rancid tendon]

You're one to talk

[full forum]

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i mean i am cring but shut the up

[devout cedar]

I mean, it has a few good waifus but that's about it

[devout cedar]

"Shut the up"? You mean the Pixar film?

[maiden oak]

Anyone wanna play some pavlov

[rancid tendon]

I feel like there's a server for that sorta thing.

[maiden oak]

Is there-

[rancid tendon]

There's a server for everything

There's definitely a Pavlov server

[maiden oak]

I mean thats prob true

[jovial marsh]

guys

[balmy lion]

Girls.

[jovial marsh]

what is ppl user on vr chat

[balmy lion]

What?

[sick bloom]

[knotty idol]

DonramaxGetsFamished

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[balmy lion]

Don, were you in the NYE world that one day?

[sick bloom]

I was in NYE, on NYE

[balmy lion]

Trying to remember if I seen you.

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Maybe, maybe not

[knotty idol]

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