#vrchat-general-2
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I mean it’s suppose to be the “vrc killer”
Yet it doesn’t have enough to differentiate itself
I did too. I even deleted my old account for it.
But it was a case of a nothing burger.
I do still hope for the best for them, but it is not my home anymore.
oof
I was very unhappy with this platform.
I may be drunk but I do not plan to stir old drama, but Sach gave me hope again.
That is why I give them love, they are amazing and wonderful. A much better PR person and just a wonderful individual.
Because back when I left, I was effectively told “yeah that is a problem, but no we ain’t gonna try to fix it.”
And that pissed me off.
Depending on the issue I could see
It was about the old awful memory leak.
Which to their credit, did get fixed. But I was told “yeah that is an issue, but no we are not going to try to do anything to rectify it.”
While CVR at the time was like “oh yeah, that is an issue,” and fixed it in a few minutes.
Perhas. I do not damn VRChat now like I did,!/!; and I have Sach to credit for that.
They do care, but I will still comment on the shortcomings.
That is how I have rolled for a long time, many here know that well.
Do something good and I will comment of it, an argument made against a good thing and I will defend it, a bad thing happening I will fully speak against.
Like the friend request glitch.
And now the auto log off bug..
Now that is annoying
Yep. Sach gives me hope that the team cares enough to eventually solve that..
At one point I had nothing positive to say about the VRChat teamZ
Good to hear
And that is unfair to the caring devs, I recognize that.
But when the voice of the project gives an “I do not careXl”. Attitude, you get that way.
Which is why Sach being the public face now makes me very very happy.
Or the effective public face anyway since he is always around. 
I want to ping him to thank him but I do see that as not the best idea.
He knows though.
I do not know if he signed up for that role, but him effectively taking on it has been a blessing for this platform.
I think he is just trust and safety
Even so.
He effectively has become the PR person.
And I am okay with this.
Because he cares.
And that does a lot.
Even if he does not recognize how wonderful he is.
And I hope he sees this and knows that he is seen as such.
Other people can feel free to start another conversation by the way, I have said my piece.
^?
Why, what's wrong with using Steam?
Good to know that Sach did this for u
Yeppy yeppers.
If u use a steam account it considered a “guest” account
Before him, VRChat was mostly dead to me.
Shows the power of a good PR person.
Oy. Is anyone able to help me with a vr wedding. I need someone as the priest.
I thought every account starts out as guest and you increase reputation by simply actively playing?
Every account starts as visitor in terms of trust rank
^
However steam/oculus account r considered “guest” accounts and cannot upload content only vrchat accounts can
If that makes sense
Oh so you just can't do things like upload through a Steam account?
Just make sure you make a VRChat account and do nothing with it prior to.
Because VRChat is very finicky..
If I found a person who uses clients in VRChat is it okay for me to tell my friends to report them as well?
I mean, you can tell them, but evidence is key to doing anything.
No clue
Has the VRCat plush shipped yet, it says April 7 🥺
At 13 you def don't need a fkn relationship.
he's just going through shit and needs some help
I guess as his friend this can be your job
a person that's always there for him that he's comfortable around is what he needs
Been delayed.
and I got my own shit to deal with and I'm trying to help but I just don't have the time to give him my full attention
well, the other part of his attention is what he could get on his own
you don't have everyone 24/7 around you in your life
sometimes you have to deal with problems on your own
well he's young and that's exactly what he needs for a little bit
ye, but you said "always there for him"
that's why i replied this way
sure a little help won't hurt
what about his parents? Is the drama revolving around them or can he talk to them?
no fucking clue
Because in best case (and we all know it is not always the case) parents should be the one to talk to at this age
all I know is that it's bad and he just kinda needs someone to trust and my girlfriend doesn't like me even talking to others people
oh yea obviously
doesnt he also have other friends? or some1 close to him?
Depending on his problem it could be better / worse to talk to total strangers
idfk what to do but he's my friend and I just want to help the poor kid
ye understandable, maybe someone is here to talk to him. Good luck on your search
gonna need it, thanks tho
how is everyone?
i ate a crayon
you ate a crayon?
well im happy it tasted nice at least
What color of crayon 👀
now that is a fact that must be known
if someone wants to be u that bad let them
not a whole lot u can do about it anyways
huh?
i mean technically i can download all of wikipedia in 9 clicks
probably less even
amount of clicks doesnt really make something complex, or show that it is not complex
Read this without context
I just joined the server a bit ago and it was literally the first message I read other than the rules-
Oh I didnt know you were a marine, thank you for your service!
And you didnt share with me? smh
yo
Sup
I just got a quest 2 and vrchat won’t load and keeps crashing. Anyone know how to fix this? I have deleted it and downloaded it several times with the same issues
Look if it has a reliable internet connection
I got some sick news
It doesn't benefit anyone to hear it but I feel good
I'm getting a quest 2 today 😋
NICE!!
Yeee
Just have no clue how to use it
Because the friends I had I came to vr with are gone now
All you need for set up is a phone, on first launch it will go over things with you. There is an introductory program/game too.
Oh well thank you informing me Star
No problem.
Ayy congrats! First time in vr? Or have you used other headsets before?
Hi
hello
Nope first time and I'm super new haha
Ah nice. The quest 2 is a treat man you'll enjoy it
Anything you wanna know before it arrives?
👀
Oh nothing as of now but thanks 😋
Alright fair enough
For students with edu emails it is $75. 
Oh yeah that too. No idea how that would even be set up though
Like would you need to create a facebook account with the email? Or just connect it to your student email?
Not sure.
Oh yea I did have a friend but not anymore sadly
Oh unfortunate
Oh sure ?
I'll dm it
Someone I know had their VRCat plushie shipped, mine hasn’t updated yet tho
I’m gonna abuse it
Microwave the plush 
plush abuse plush abuse
Danggg
Why do I gotta keep sayin dis. Off brand garfield plush is premium
You guys are cool, i appreciate you. Have an awsome day.
You too have a good day
you too
akito is stinky
.!ban ^that guy
Dang feels bad
helo
helo
What's up?
am roomba
lolwut
With untrusted urls on yes, as that's..unavoidable, due to how the internet works
by connecting to an external server, you give that server your IP
This is why I tell ppl not to allow untrusted URLs
yeah but then we can't watch videos
your IP is not private information though, don't get fearmongered about it
nor is it helpful information for finding somebody
It's like client users that scrape content and login credentials. Did u know ppl are stealing accounts? Yea, with the "safe" modclient you're using. XD
an IP isn't even a reliable way to get someone's state, nevermind city or neighborhood
yes
Some of them, not all.
you can, but some ASNs have been blocked, which some VPN connection locations fall under
not required at all, though
no, some are just blocked
you just might not be able to connect with one enabled
again though, don't get fearmongered or misinformed about what a VPN does
cloudflare warp isnt blocked right?
it's recommended by support, so I'd imagine not
just untick untrusted urls, no need to worry anymore :D
it gets my city almost 100% of the time, but its just a city so its not that useful
IP is probably the least concerning PII someone can get.
my IP gives a random 3-4 cities in the vague vicinity lmao
i guess where im from theres only like 2 big cities in the whole province
9/10 it hits my city, the other 1 time it hits the other one
I've drunkenly given out my address on VRChat on numerous occassions
No one has yet to come to my house and kill me and if they did they'd be doing me a favor
What the point of turning it off mind me asking
Like what does doing that do
Movie worlds
Enabling untrusted urls allows video players to play from untrusted urls - that is, urls that aren't on the game's whitelist
enabling that lets you play videos from more video hosts, but also involves connecting to untrusted and/or unknown servers
Ohh okay thank you
yw!
Is it possible to set my home to a public instance of a world? I set mine to a bar, but it just loads me into a private instance of the bar and I have to go thru the menus to join a public instance, which kinda defeats the purpose of setting it as my home 🤔
wow.
its ur home so u dont crash when u load in.
I mean... I still want to load into a public instance. And ideally set it to the same instance as a friend of mine, so we can just start VRchat and instantly be in the same place without fumbling through menus and invites
Honestly having a public world as a home with your friends is a great idea if it's not a thing you can do already.
Oy. Is anyone able to help me with a vr wedding. I need someone as the priest.
Yea it seems like a no brainer to me. I just found some reddit posts and past convos on here talking about using launch options, but can't seem to get any of them working. And even if I get it working, that'd be a bit intimidating for my non-tech savvy friends to set up (they're already pretty overwhelmed by VRchat's UI/UX in general). Ah well
Yeah im not really a fan on the new UI either the wings and everything just feel completely pointless and now it takes longer for me to access the settings I commonly use
You can click on the "expand" icon in the top right, you know.
Never saw it
the wings are op
I heard there's a big overhaul coming up, hopefully it winds up being a solid improvement
What's the point of the wings?
overhaul to the menu screen
wings are for ease of access
Wings are just for quick access to whatever menu you want
Like if you use expressions a lot, you can just set a wing to expressions and have em all right there
Ah, seemed like it only showed online friends to me
You can click the menu button on each wing to change what menu it shows
^
It's pretty handy when you get used to it but yeah, not super obvious or intuitive imo
^
Not that I have any better ideas about how to make a good social VR UI, that shit is hard
Lol well if it isn't handy until you get used to it, then that kinda means it's not super obvious or intuitive
i thought the buttons were obvious
Me too, but not everyone has the same level of tech savvyness/literacy, or the same inquisitive mind that pokes around to see what all the buttons do, etc
Some people will look straight at a button they're looking for and still have no clue what to do lol
^
Well I got the public home world working, just used launch option vrchat://launch?id=world id:instance number
I swear that was like the first launch option I tried lol, not sure what I did differently this time. Glad it's workin tho
Anyone here heard of Y-bots?
Uh nope
yay my VRCat plush just shipped
Anyone wanna play VRChat I’m kinda new so I don’t have friends and I’d need to talk through discord
I'd be down to play sometime. I would now but I'm about to go to bed. I really would rather play but I'm getting up at 5am tomorrow and I've got to drive over an hour so I'm not trying to be tired doing that
@vocal shard mind if I add you on discord?
yeah go for it
i dont have a headset so i cinda need to use discord to talk sadly
and since im on pc its kinda rough
I get it, I used desktop a lot before I got a quest. But I can't VC you, sorry 💀
not video call just the voice chat
yeah sadly, ill be able to hear i just cant talk cuz i dont have the right jack size on my headset
I can't hear you anyway lmfao
this would be a good time for imbed perms and a dancing hamster gif
just spelled that wrong and I'm not gonna fix it
lol
.
well this will be fun cuz my writing isnt the best with pens lol
If your still interested in playing I can give u an av with a keyboard
im down for it
cool, add me on VRC and we can play something either tomorrow or the next day if ur free. I have a busy day tomorrow so I'm not sure if I'll be on much
Alrighty I just need my pc to realize that I logged out of vr chat earlier
no rush, i'm not getting back on vr tonight so I won't be accepting tonight anyways
Kk
anyone down to hang?

Does anyone know of a world with a video player which also allows you to specify the speed? E.g. 0.5x speed
Preferably with a mirror too. Looking to practice dancing
Well apparently Off Topic isn't the place to ask this so I guess I'll put it in here. Anyone in here do SpongeBob character voice impressions? Some people from my discord and I are making a SpongeBob episode in VRChat.

Use that 15.ai voice generator 😂
kiwi kiwi
vrc is running slow again.
the loading it going slowly even after clearing cache
for downloads , avatar and local thing
Ur internet or connection in general
how interesting, have you considered turning your head 360 degrees?
Is your storage almost full?
hi
I might use that for voices I can't find actors for
try using a vpn
had a huge argument yesterday in the feature requests channel about it but thats the easiest fix
If you find one that isn't blocked I guess
Yo
Good and you?
Any one on
nope
!online
There are 60786 users in VRChat currently
at least 7 people
At least
atleast 1
dont have money for vpn not allowed to buy stuff offline
true i try to save and remove pictures i dotn need or have saved somewhere else already
thats part of it i think
even with full bars
im ok for now
thank u guys ^^
also has anyone else been crashing after being in movie and chill for about .... 14 mins>?
i turn of fposters lights the rumba it still crashes me i wonder why
Possibly a player?
idk
Lol @meager solstice it’s been a while
Hi
is anyone good with setting up mics and such? My laptop just randomly stopped letting my use my headset as a mic
@oak karma
hello good to all, I want you to help me in something esque when I open the game and I give to go when I enter the game the mause moves me only asia the left please can help me ?
Wait, what?
reading this gave me a concussion, please retype this 😭
All I’m getting is either server region or mouse gets stuck on left side of screen idk
how do i go to manage game in steam?
Does Movie and Chill have a Discord ch? Why don't they have My Hero Acadamia? I think they only have S3-4 and subbed.
Yo what’s up
Trash anime
🤫
I’m new
the manga kinda slaps tho
Stop that
?
Stop being new
Is that what the Discord channel is called?
It’s a fine anime, wouldn’t say it’s amazing or trash
If I have a friend and they block me... what happens?
Do I still see them in my friends list?
Will their bio be hidden?
bruh.
idk
Oy. Is anyone able to help me with a vr wedding. I need someone as the priest.
reason i repeat this is its lost bc the channel is rather active even though being the second gen
Hey

I have to many questions rn
wah
Vr wedding?
Talk about long distance relation ship
yah
Why are all the generals dead
i has to go
If any1 has cute small animal avatars lmk
bonk
@vocal shard
huh?
I can be the priest lol
ooh
Bro just one annoying guy can ruin that whole thing be careful
y do u think most things r done in private lobbies
What servers you guys usually meet friends in?
Great pug
Used to in the black cat
I don’t think someone can crash with a mic
Unless u mean when client users use earape then that’s just them using a toggle to blast their mic then they use a crasher
If that’s what u mean
To be annoying lol
I dunno
Your welcome 
Some people like to make others upset and they thrive off of it.
so it's not me i thought i was the only one someone keep blasting there music and i can't hear anyone at all i walk away from people and it seem someone blast the whole server
If it’s not avatar audio I would advise using the panic button that’s on the bottom right on your Quick menu launch pad
would that just block everyone out
It would mute everyone but it can save you
And hide all Avis along with it
if u haven’t shown them that is
So basically if u use the panic button it mutes everyone and blocks everyone’s avi if they are not a friend
No but it does it randomly it’s normal
That’s something I really don’t know how to answer as i don’t have the knowledge on why that is.
ok thx i'll try that next time i play hate when people mess with the sounds you can't hear players it's like they want people to quit vrchat
Of course
Btw if panic button doesn’t work than the person blasting sounds also broke the game audio so there’s a chance you would have to restart the game
And sometimes steam vr
like uninstall and reinstall the game
No just close the game and start it up again
ok thx
Mhm
Hello is anyone vrc not working
Before asking questions like that, always read the #server-status channel
You'll see your question is answered.
@ruby needle SB
its this line
Downtime or service degradation is not expected, although it is possible it may still occur.
Thats the kicker :\
This is like a calm pond compared to the rapid ocean that is general 1
Yeah its nice and calm
I joined to see what was up with vrchat and man that general is going nuts 🥴😂
Could be a possibility
Fr i play vrc a lot but not even im like that
Well I mean first thing I did was read to see what was up. Got my answer right away 😂
It’s 3am for me so like I can’t go outside but not the end of the world
When i do play i play for like 10 hours straight but dang some people need to relax take off the headset eat something hydrate rest ur eyes while the servers are down
Just takes more commitment to go outside at 3am
Does not mean it's impossible
it does kinda suck it has to happen when I normally get on. I work nights so I'm typically on 4am-9am CST before I sleep, right in the time frame of the maintenance.
All well, gives me time to work on avis or something
True but it’s cold af out (I live in Canada) so I’d rather stay in my warm house 😂
Good luck on that interview!
I agree it sucks. I play around this time cause work and uni got my busy all day
I thought I was going insane lol. It sucks it is down. But yeah good luck on that interview @little forge
mhmm. Work by itself keeps me busy enough. Staffing issues all over the USA, got me working 6 days 'stead of the normal 5.
At least I'm rich, so all is well.
Oh dang its not that cold where i am but the weather is crazy the other day it was 70 then it was super windy then bam pouring rain sleet then started a snow storm
Bruh I wish I was rich. Maybe one day 💀🥴 my ass has to keep on my toes
Ah Fahrenheit 😂 yeah weather where I’m at is weird around this time. It’s decently nice during the days but nighttime’s it’s cold
enabling slow mode is a beta move after we just got kicked out of vrc
I say rich, but in reality it's really just around 175% FPG
True that
but I live in a poor area in general, so it makes me feel rich at least
Ah yeah its 31 fahrenheit rn
35 F over here
It's so people don't go full sperge
Or well less then they currently do
I am in Canada and it is cold af rn.
Where abouts in Canada?
BC
Coldest its ever gotten in my state is -50 F
Yeah. But my room feels like a freezer rn lol
@vocal shard British !
I feel so bad for the chat mods during these times
Got to love how in bc rn it is cold af. Man my hands are cold lol
You can use my hands 
Lol
I feel bad also.
I think it’s like -1 where I live rn so I guess it ain’t that bad where I’m at in bc. Still too cold for me tho
It is 0 for me rn.
Yall talking C right?
Hmm
@vocal shard c?What's that
Sounds cold
21c with a nice slight breeze for me
Yeah
C is Celsius, it’s how we do our temps here in Canada
Proper units
Idk what -1 C is in F but its prolly cold
It is quite cold lol
Thats below freezing i think
Yea it is below freezing
Below 0c is freezing above 100c is boiling
@umbral reef genius
So yeah thats cold but not -50 cold thank god i hate but love winter
Fr even i thing Fahrenheit is weird
Fahrenheit is by far the worse unit
It just wants to be different
Kelvin or Celcius are more logical
Like what is the freezing point for celsius
only celcius make sense
0
0 for freezing 100 for boiling
Exactly
its that fkn easy
Perfect
Kelvin is mainly used for math stuff and Celcius flat out does not work for that. But for normal day stuff it's Celcius only yea
Kelvin makes sense just pointless for day to day
F is pointless don't know why they still use it
But F the freezing point is like 31 and boiling is i dont even know anymore
You don't care about atmospheric pressure
If you wanna complain about things like that you can always point towards the 1+/- degree normal measuring tools have
And adding or removing 1 is fairly generous. Most measurement tools for temperature deviate way more than that
I love how this turned into us talking about temps 😂
And feet like i think one meter is 3 feet idk
Its all confusing
Plus half the time we dont even use feet we are just like "yeah its about the size of a small car"
Because feet is such an shit unit
Meters, dm, cm are all logical steps and units you can imagine because of it
Yeah we just wanna be different ig
"Has the volume of around 3 washing machines"
Ah yes it's 3.457 rugby fields long
Yeah fr
Why do i understand that lmao
About the length of a school bus
24 packs of cornflakes long
Lmaoo
Real question is. When driving do you guys go by time or kilometres?
As heavy as 12 lead shotgun slugs
Km/h
So kilometers per hour
H/km 
Miles per hour
Owo?
UwU
Hello
I love how less active this channel is compared to general 1 😂
This is better
nani?
5 secounds is better.
lmao
Bruh
Careful now
My name is Cobruh I am the new eboy
when are they gunna fix the darn bug ugh :9
Inb4 it's 30s because he said that
What bug?
Oh quit your dry repetetive joke
the social bug cause i cant see anyone of my friends
maintenance still got like 3 more hours til its scheduled completion
When you realise most people dont have a life the moment vrc has issues
Oh, that's not a bug, it's jut server maintenance, check #server-status for more info
You dont see invites/friendships until you relog as well, right?
Sounds similar to my friends issue


i cant even see them even after i relogged
Hmm then im not sure
Has anyone’s vrc friends list been reset
you can use this site to monitor when servers are accessible. When users online rise fast, servers work. When they're low, servers don't.
When it rises and stay risen, maintenance is possibly done.
whenever i relog im stuck in and endless loading screen just after it finsihes logging me in
Oh John, you are a special one.
Check #server-status, maintenance is underway, stuff is not working
Okayy
Why does the IK kind of suck? Does it require too much network traffic?
I'm wondering where the issues are. I wouldn't mind settings to unload some work onto my client, or to disable some safety measures, for better tracking (like trusting the data of friended users). Syncing between clients won't work very well at the moment though, the delay between users appears to be about 1.5 seconds.
Speaking of which, interacting with other people, and keeping the flow of conversations, is a little bit difficult with a 1500ms ping.
Because there's server maintenance rn?
I'm speaking in general, I didn't know that the servers were down no
That’s probably your issue, that and server maintenance is going on
Sup my man. I challenge you to chess
yeah, my ping is typically pretty low in vrc.. probably a you thing
Same, I have no IK problems
I've played for fun now and then, but I've done no studies on chess, so if you play as a hobbyist or professional, you'll just destroy me
Your ping is what is messing you up it seems
Why is Chara here…
The ping says 100 to 300. The actual delay is over a second
Why isn’t Chara here?
Your pfp is of the God himself of the Game world. How could you
Because chara is dead HAH
Have a friend count down to 0. When he says 0, you say "Now". Switch places and repeat.
Ghosts can still use phones you know HAH
Confusion
I love games, there's just too little time to play them all
If you do this, you will find that the delay is easily a second, approaching 2
My man you speak funny words
I understand what they are saying
The IK isn’t perfect but it’s good enough for most situations
So do I but funny words
However, as I said before your ping and potentially your friends ping are making more of a delay
That’s just my theory though
Life is a game. Socializing is a game. Studying is a game. It's a fuzzy RPG in that it's not a server which judges loss and defeat, it's decided by the perception of other players
"life is a game"
woah there, bud-- easy on the words
Two people with 50 ping still result in delays over a second. I have a gigabit connection too
That is true, but the delay would be very small
I think it's because you need to add a delay in order to have an interval in which you can "smooth out" motions. So buffering 500ms or so
Hmm… that is probably true I guess otherwise everyone would be jittering all over the place
But I ain’t no expert so honestly I’m not sure how it works 100%
A faster update rate would be able to use less information, probably, but the IK seemingly got slower with with server-sided update
the update isn't even done though, servers are unstable as hell rn cuz it ain't done
Neither. It's probably less than 0.1% of users which really know their shit about these things. If we're lucky, one of them will come in here and explain how wrong I'm being
I actually have a few. I stole them from r/VRChatMemes/ though, so you could just scrape that site starting with top:alltime
https://metrics.vrch.at/ you can track metrics through this unofficial tool hosted by the VRC community
server response times ain't too crazy atm
Ping is fine, but voice chat and IK is delayed over a second
Yeah, kinda sad network delay is so high, makes games that require user to user interaction quite annoying
so hard VRchat servers down for maintenance than today
also, to comment on that-- not exactly.
Movement most likely uses UDP, a really unreliable but heckin fast protocol often used for rapidly-updating packets.
The normal method for creating a packet is to send data in a sequence. Packet start, packet data, packet end. This is often accomplished by a thingy called a Buffer, or as the old java boy in me likes to call it, streaming.
Assuming movement tracks X, Y, Z, Pi, Ya, Ro-- it'll constantly be sending the server that data over and over again. If you send just the change in data, that doesn't work well with UDP-- it has to be the exact numbers.
To put a tl;dr: Increasing the network speed, while making things more responsive, will also increase bandwidth used by connection. In other words, it's not a form of optimization.
Movement uses IK, and probably smoothing or interpolation done on some buffer (Guessing here though) as you can't interpolate single points, and if you rely on predictions then strange things happen when they go wrong (this happens in some FPS games, I think TF2 does it)
Changes in data probably doesn't work, as you say. There's a need for even tiny distances to be tracked, IK uses some difficult maths, there might be syncing problems, and the IK might get inaccurate after a long time since every change is relative and not absolute.
Increasing speed would decrease the delay, and at a cost like you say. But I don't know how much that is. If it's expensive because of AWS, then I understand, but if it's for the sake of clients with bad connection - come at me! I want it faster. (speaking of which, we're also limited by the speed of which clients send their IK data)
Wasn't it capped because of their servers bandwidth?
With p2p you could increase bandwidth without putting stress on the servers, but funny people could do the funny business and get the funny numbers of your pc
AWS payment models mostly attacks server uptime and bandwidth usage, so it would increase cost of the servers.. as you predict.
However, increasing the update rate wouldn't be an ideal solution for users with a bad connection. Solutions like accelerating traffic would, but not like VRC has the budget to do so-- that shiz is expensive af.
On top of that, if the data being sent is really large, another issue that comes to rise is greater CPU power being used. It's extremely doubtful VRC does networking computations on a compute shader, that's just odd design-- so for extremely low end systems that have trouble running VRC as is, that could be a deal-breaker, resulting in worse ping due to stressing out the computer too much to respond fast enough.
Yeah, more bandwidth = more cost.
p2p is amazing when it comes to counteracting that, but will always remain a fatal move for VRChat. Before the days of relay servers, it was entirely possible to just snap someone's funny router numbers with the p2p system. It works like direct connections to all user's computers rather than a managed connection to a server, meaning it's possible to trace back where an funny number came from-- hence the old video player exploit.
These days, with relay servers to counter that, the only funny number you're getting is from a relay server.
It was P2P in the past. prioritised P2P between friends would be cool, my friends aren't assholes.
I'm not sure what "Bad connection" is. 1mbps? 10? 50? I don't think the usage is very much.
The servers could automatically adjust based on the clients speeds, as some Steam settings do. And if your computer sucks, then you have low FPS, and no need to try and update the IK at a faster rate
Again, it's more of a cost issue than anything else. Hence the bandwidth limitations Bahka mentioned
I think VRC uses Steam networking as a sort of proxy? At least there's a steam setting for that. Disabling it might reduce my delay
If the problem is serversided, it can't be helped. I like to think that smaller delays are possible though. 1500ms is a pain
And given the security risk with p2p, it's practically certain VRC will not go back to it-- in weird enough cases, they can even get in trouble for doing so. Or not, legal stuff ain't my forte.
Also, the Steam Datagram Relay (as it's officially called) kind of works as an assurance to help keep VRC servers safe. You would get faster connection if you were to just ignore it, yes-- but that also eliminates the protections relay gives server, with the most important one being DDoS protection.
with the amount of [REDACTED] in the game, would not be surprised if a lot of them are itching for DDoS attacks.
P2P for friends (as a user setting) could work. It could just be the IK, which is just numbers. Udon packets should probably not be P2P, same with any executable code and anything with higher authority (like video players)
You arent supposed to talk about clients here guys
oh yeah, mb. Just talking about networking, thought it was fine to not mention anything and just use it generally
I think most of them just use it for utility or feeling powerful.
Anyway, it might be that no further optimization is possible, or just minor (imposible IK data doesn't need to be taken into account, for instance)
there's always room for optimization somewhere, VR is still young
but we just gotta be patient and wait for reliable method to be discovered/implemented.
the things I mentioned were just the common knowledge of networking optimizations, but I'm not too in-depth in vr dev'ing, so there's lots of specifics I probably glossed over
P2P syncing has a lot of cool algorithms, like how Twitter syncs likes on posts between servers. But with just client-server communication, I don't think we can do much. Culling the IK of people we can't see? Faster update for those who are near maybe? But we're limited to the entropy of IK data, there's no optimizing beyond that
Vrc website ded
i got into vrc 
Friendslist just doesn't work
The only caveat you have to work with rn
Tells what's up and down
For the tech nerds; https://metrics.vrch.at/d/vrchat/vrchat-status?orgId=1
Is that an official domain?
Yup, used for short links
the servers are back up that you can't see your friends list
I cant wait to cuddle mine uwu
can't wait to threaten it and commit extortion and blackmail with it
My tracking number says it's in China
Hello
No I got crashed with audio once while in quest mode. Had to restart to fix it too.
Yea#h clients do that but not thru mics
Oh, those players that are mainly satisfied from others' misery... like cyberbullies?
If their avi was blocked
It won’t matter as client users have bypassers to say no to safety settings
I can’t say much more as it would be sorta of a promotion to them and I don’t like clients
I think it's from there audio so you have to mute them. My quest was blasted with a loud noise and I couldn't hear anything until I reloaded. I've also had my game just close on me. I usually mute low trust ranks in public lobbies to stay safe.
bypassers and a button to break game audio where your forced to reload or restart
Rip black cats are just dangerous these days. Treehouse in the shade is the best spot to mirror dwell
Pretty sure black cat is a main target bc of kids sadly and other reasons like disgusting adults
I’m mostly in great pug
I don’t mirror dwell anymore kinda got bored of it but I don’t mind mirrors
There a Lot of great Japanese worlds too
yeah
Huh
Oh
Lmao I forget I’m in that
Im just there to see the updates so I know when to be ready to dip out
I've been documenting all of them I thought it make a cool reddit post or YouTube video.
could someone help me with a avatar im trying to use in unity
#avatar-help @crisp sequoia
In school atm so sadly can’t help
when your done can you help me
I’m gonna be busy later
bruh
@serene valley add me
@lament portal vrc is mythical0bordr
you guys are cool
ඞ
Hello
Roomba noises
hello
why 30 second cooldown
Probably to fight spam considering they only got the one bot
rule 34 avatars are gross
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Anyone lost friends after maintenance?
Any cool worlds or other discord to meet people? Looking to vibe and learn more about vrchat, just started playing last night
Also anyone feel free to add me on cord if anybody trynna chat or something
just go on popular and pop in a server
Hi
is there a way to see who i was in an instance with recently
vrchat logs will have their names in them
U can take ur output logs and put them in a parcer
ث
Anyone know where I can find a hog rider or other coc/clash royale avatars? (For the memes) (and don't just say "look it up" don't you think I've already done that idiot)
Have you tried looking it up?
dm to be vr friends 16+
You're so funny 🗿
the hekk wring with my game?
😎 👉 👉
everytime im boutta load into the home world the game closses
id give it to u if i could log into the game
but everytime it loads up it just closses for some reason when i get to the home world
Have you checked your WIFI?
If you’re on quest it sometimes randomly disconnects from the WiFi
Its hard sometimes to play on vrchat cuz theres kids everywhere and they love to misgender me lol
Hi
Who is trying to watch movies and chill with me ?
propably nobody
generally, try joining less popular (i.e non-front-page) worlds o:
Ive been tryin to join pc only ones too
I know someone who has.
Try uninstalling and reinstalling then change your home world.
Anyone else not able to hear their menu sounds or avatar sounds despite those sounds being turned up in the settings?
Hey have they changed the kick system recently, the way i understand the kick system is that you get kicked from an instance, you cant join that same instance for an hour
Bruh, they're kids. They probably don't even know. Don't take it personally from them.
And if they do know and they're still being disrespectful, again they're kids. So best to just ignore them
If u want tru honesty, listen to what kids say
It just reminds me that my voice doesnt help me pass
And it hurts to be reminded, makes me self conscious talking to other ppl knowing my voice isnt masc passing
its the internet, and vrc on top of that who cares lol
Uh. My voice is the same regardless of it being vrc or irl
anyone down to hang
Children in VRChat have a tendency to be very problematic.
Re: All of what you said, you are wonderful no matter what and I hope you never forget that.
Hello
heyyy
Some kids are honest, others are dicks and very cring, don't get too worked up about them
That sounds distressing.
hey how is everyone
Ummm, I am having a really weird problem
I updated VRChat today and...when I try to join worlds I join a fully empty world when I am trying to join a would full of people, any ideas?
does any one know if its save to use polly wash on a rift S
i did a littel f@cky wacky
Are you on the beta?
Yes, I believe so
you need to read #open-beta-announcements
because beta is not compatible with the normal version
Ah
also #open-beta-info
The ik beta is compatible though if you want to use that.
open beta hasn't been compatible in a long time
Does anyone know if you can fullscreen video player inside world over your game screen for better experience or zoom in?
and if you can also disable the 3D sound effects from video player, so the sound doesnt get scuffed?
i want to be in vrc and another program at the same time, but my vrc avatar keep going into "afk float" (dunno what it's called)
is there a way to disable this?
and if not, how can i work around it?
If i could react to messages id have given this hearts. Thank you for being so nice
you're cool, I respect you
Open the radial menu by holding the quick menu button (or r on desktop mode), go into it's settings, and disable AFK detection
If you can't select anything in the radial menu, you likely have flick select on - move the cursor to one of the menu options, then 'flick' the cursor back to the middle. You can toggle flick select vs trigger select in the radial menu's options, as well
You can't fullscreen video players no, and how the sound..sounds would be something for the world author to adjust
thank you so much!
yw! c:
Anyone got a reccommendation for worlds to chill out and watch Twitch streams in?
Nah but if you find one lmk
My vrchat on my quest 2 keeps closing out by its self randomly
clearing the cache might help you
lol ok
What?
haning some problems with vrc, can anyone help?
lol "gidhub"...
seems legit 🥴
fake link?
Yes.
hello
Hey everyone, I’m having problems with adding and removing favorited avatars and so far nothing seems to fix the problem I’m dealing with. In the game I’m usually am able to unfavorite any of the 25 avatars I have. however, lately it has been letting me unfavorite some avatars but when I go to check, none of the avatars I remove are gone. After this occurs i cannot unfavorite the avatar at all, not even through the vrchat website. I have attempted to fix the problem through uninstalling/reinstalling vrchat, logging out and back in and nothing works. If anyone has any possible solutions it would be much appreciated.
That's a common API bug. It should resolve itself itself in a day or two.
Okie, thanks you so much for informing me :D
I can't see some of my friends when I join worlds I'm not in any beta
Yea it sucks i had it show 0 favorited when i got 25 a few hours ago too
I have an avatar with a couple of accessories on by default that can be toggled off - but when they're off for me, people can still see them. Is there a way to avoid or fix this?
Those people might have animations turned off.
thanks 👍
yoi

is it just me or favorites list is broken
it be like that sometimes
F
Whats the school vr world called
theres so many, you might needa be a bit more specific

Hey every it's me your number one salesman from 1997 spamton g spamton hahaha
Hello, everyone. I'm tired about keeping search for room to meet people who isn't talking.
I'm about to go into VRChat, any tip or right terms for me to find a nice room?
Thanks.
Usually people talk in Pug and Black Cat, for better or worse.
Midnight rooftop as well.
Thanks!
Werent you a mod?
i dont think star was ever a mod
I used to mod other discord servers and other types of platforms, but never this particular Discord server.
Sad
i need someone to roleplay with just have fun
Maybe.
what is a Well im a roomba
??
Do you not understand basic english /j
I am Roomba™️
Yes. Set your name as Mr. Roomba TM
Can't, I've had this as my name for like 8 years not about to change it now
ok sure what's ya game name
aight bet
Yoooo Black cat has an easter egg hunt now
Wow
a kid that just learned what swears are
??
Wha?
deleted messages
Hi
I just joined
Hi?…
Oh gosh
hulloe bipp
Hihi zuv

Ywah.
..?
I am about to finish
Simon Belmont's rig
Tomorrow
Yknow how ironic, I'm finishing a vampire hunter rig on Easter sunday
And in 3 days no less
Whenever I open vrchat with VPN it would'nt connect(or some ocasions just crashes). It works when I connect to steam without VPN but I NEED a vpn when I want to connect with oculus software version of VRChat or when ruuning on quest standalone. (ISP block oculus/facebook)
I visited VRChat on browser and it gave me the ASN error.
Itried:
Changing to ipv4
Changing IP and DNS
Different vpns with different locationt with different protocals
banging my head to my desk
Nothing works.
How should I get rid of the ASN ban?
You can not
You can either try other endpoint servers, but they'll likely all be blocked.
You will need to try other VPN's, i do not know which are working tho.
I forgot to mension My friend uses the same VPN provider as I do but he has no ASN issues.
Could the issue be somthing else?
PS: I use the free version he uses the paied version
well I think you answered your own question there
paid servers might not be blocked
seems likely that vrchat would block the free vpns because of stupid kids being shits on the internet
the little shits usually won't be paying
Oh right
I guess I'll go try or buy different vpn locations
Thx FPaul & testdostres
btw wont my account get banned if login from different locations regularly with vpn?
Should I be concerned about this?
Thanks for explaining.
But since my pc is under spec, I have to connect to vpn from pc then hotspot it to my quest. Otherwise if I connect directly with quest I get blocked by my ISP for accessing facebook/meta domains.
😮💨 Basiclly fixing one thing ruins the other thing
Hmm it's worth a shot if the app doesnt closses when I launch VRchat it might work
Yeah since the main reason for all this trouble is my ISP blocking facebook
are you in china
no someother sanctioned country :D
still.. why do you need facebook access to play vrchat
can't you play without facebook acess after installing
You don't, if you have an oculus account you can still create a separate vrchat account
It's what I did
But I'd do it on the website, that way all you gotta do is sign in
I didn't link it yet no
I've played it for about 4 months now, still technically new but I know my way around electronics ig
there you go, do that
What's your setup if you don't mind my asking
Thank you all
I think this'll work. I'm just woried if I just connect my quest to internet normaly and meta fiqures out my location, I might get banned when I want to upload my games to the quest store.
There has been news about Meta banning people randomly now if Meta finds out the player is from a highly sanctioned country, the chances would probably increase.
Ugh bypassing restrictions is frustrating :/
What’s up with the people who gather around mirrors and sit down with anime avatars on pub (pub meaning like beer places) worlds in VRChat
Whats up with them is pretty simple
Absolutely nothing
They're enjoying the game their way. 
So tell me why when I go to check that mirror since it’s the closest one, they tell me to go away and call me a “fag”
Well
That's either because you have some very special avatar that you shouldn't use
Or they're idiots.
But that's just specific people. 
My avatars are pretty normal. Things to do with fnaf cause it’s kinda funny imo or something to do with Halo.
On a rare occasion it may be something different because I thought someone’s avatar was cool and cloned it
This might sound stupid but i cant find a world with a big enough mirror for my tall avatar
Ooooh yeah that's it right there. FNAF....
Wearing a FNAF avatar or master chief will probably get you blocked or told to go away cuz they'll think you're an annoying kid
eboys
Nah has to do with your voice too
Yeah true
Indeed Digimon
You are the 312th person to make that joke
I think at this point I should actually start counting cuz it's been like at least 10
Sorry. Digital Waifu
So does anyone wanna play vrchat
!online
There are 42647 users in VRChat currently
^ That answer your question? 
Will custom shaders and dynamic bones ever come to quest?
no
no the quest has super shit hardware and that's not gonna improve
maybe in a future version of the quest with less shit hardware
Dynamic bones specifically, no... Wait for the alternative (Open Beta)
dynamic bones are trash not even non quest user want them. as for custom shaders, vrchat devs could whitelist a few more (there are candidates) but you will never have complete free selection like pc
Speaking of, is there a release date for when it'll be more than a beta?
no
summer 2021 was the only official announcement
So it won't go to live for a while, got it
Beans
B E A N S
B E A N S
Who wanna play vrchat on oculus
What's the stupidest thing someone picked a fight with you over?
Like, in VRC.
Related to VRC.
Someone once tried to fight me because I beeped at them in response to a question they had
But like... I can't talk, beeping is the only thing I can do
So I stabbed her
I fought someone in murder 4 he had gun I had knife and I won somehow
e.
The point of the murderer is to kill everyone. If you die while killing the last guy you win
Does anyone know where they would announce the Easter egg hunt thing
does someone know why i cant get the video player to work? are they broken again?
url are allowed, deleted cache, restarted....
Hey, im trying to download Vrchat on steam for pc play, just bc I want to. It keeps on saying it’s timing out and not even going past 1%, is there an issue or something or is my WiFi just that bad. I can download stuff pretty good usually
anyone know when the open beta will be coming to live servers? not tryna come off as impatient but im hella excited for it lol
wifi maybe?
Never had issues before
then i got no clue might be your storage though
I have over 600gb left
ive had similar issues with steam but the main issue i usually have is my network usage dropping to zero every so often when downloading updates then coming back up. restart steam (closing in task manager and all) and reopen it. if that doesnt fix the issue, id suggest just waiting a while and doing a full restart on your pc. sometimes steam acts up and waiting a while and trying again has helped me in the past
600GB of memory or 600GB of data left?
probably memory lmfao
Storage
Connection speed has no relevance to your storage.
Ok
so uh anyone wanna play vr chat?
I love you and hope you have a blessed day🦋🌈💜
Summer 2021
Is the only official date there has ever been
not to spam or anything but what port (ex: 5555) does the quest 2 use?

Hello
yo
I looking for devils avatars
Im too depressed to help right now
I'm sorry to tell you this
Huh?
?
It's coming
what is the difference in vrc general 1 and 2
Get better brain then
nah
@young salmon rule 10
Sorry😭
I am very anxious about my final project
Have to finish it by the end of this week
can anybody suggest to me a discord channel where I can post my study request🙏
Okay
What?
that message marks the 68,000th message I've made here
Anyone wanna play on quest?
Yeah
Nah
Oh
Tommorow
Okay
What time is it for you
10 44
hey does anyone know someone named bleach_soup?
or crashdummy3
No
have you tried using search feature?
she isn't in the server, she uses vrchat though. that's why i asked.
on vrc -.-
Anyone down to play
Still down
Wait
On oculus right?
Or vrc
Mine is ihavetomuchkeyboards
Friended
Ok
I added u already
Ok
Oki
Poor you
Your name is DJ LitterCat
Naaa. I mean A Cat’s litter box
Wait a min… liar
Your pfp is clearly a cat person
What?
Thats ears n tail

ill be safe here
yay
