vrchat-general-2

[neat falcon]

my ip hits my city 9/10 when i run it through the search thing

[noble depot]

I mean that effectively, not literally lol

[hazy rapids]

If one of my favorited avatars says not available is it gone forever or could it just be a temporary thing?

[oblique pond]

Ao i found an app on microsft call ninja ip hider which uses a proxy

Idk if it works

[neat falcon]

usually means the avatar was deleted

[hazy rapids]

Damnit. And it was a conversation starter too.

[severe monolith]

I'm having trouble with vrchat right now it's trying to vote kick a lot of my friends that's doing it by itself

[oblique pond]

Ah

[supple dragon]

I am having an issue here, so before i tried messing with things it was working just fine, but right after i connected my quest 2 to my computer and played steamVR and everything, when i was done i disconnected it a few minutes went by, and i wanted to play vrchat and joined a public world, well turned out I'm the only person, just me in the world but it showed there was people. Has anyone have this problem before?

[nimble hedge]

does anyone have military avatars

[regal furnace]

Sarma does afaik

[rich yarrow]

General 2

[unreal verge]

For me it's somewhere completely else on a place I don't even know

[regal furnace]

my ip is all over the country

[valid igloo]

Hi ppl

[quaint harness]

anyone wanna give me a cool avatar

[polar hawk]

All the VR platforms are getting on this “safety” bandwagon right now and it’s just screwing over existing users

[unreal verge]

Blame the people botting vrchat

[oblique pond]

welp time to pull plugs

weh

[lethal glacier]

Anyone tryna play

[vocal shard]

Slowmode be like

[vocal shard]

hii omi!

[vocal shard]

yesh-

[lethal glacier]

Hello people

[civic ember]

dead

[vocal shard]

Anyone wanna play?

[obtuse notch]

We could play tmmrw ^^

[vocal shard]

Sure if it works I'll lyk

[obtuse notch]

Whatcha play on?

[vocal shard]

Quest

My mic isn’t working for Christ sake

[lethal glacier]

Anyone wanna play

[teal spindle]

how can i make a skin of mine

[heady thunder]

ello ppl

[covert depot]

how do i make friends in vrchat lol

[hardy cloak]

Talk to people and be nice.

[wild spoke]

Heya

[heady thunder]

get your headset to work first before all of this 😔

[lethal glacier]

Anyone wanna play

😗

[graceful hollow]

Привет люди

[heady thunder]

ello

[graceful hollow]

Hi

[lethal glacier]

Anyone on

[jagged shard]

wsg

[delicate rivet]

exist

[grave star]

Hi

[woven mulch]

Hi

[woven bone]

Are you on pc?

[blissful meadow]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 66974 users in VRChat currently

[vocal shard]

Let me guess…25% of that are whiny kids?

[pliant epoch]

Today it's likely higher due to it being presidents day in the US which means they likely don't have school today.

[noble depot]

murica

[vocal shard]

Good Galra…😖

[vocal shard]

The metrics chart is funny to watch because you can always tell when it starts becoming sleep time.

The Steam users remain constant and the Quest numbers drop thousands and thousands.

[low yoke]

So can somebody answer question for me

[edgy helm]

yo can u follow my twitch im on the road to 50 im on 48 its psychofoxxxxx

[low yoke]

I’m just trying to figure out why I can’t Connect VR chat

[fiery atlas]

Does anyone know what happened to this user?

@cloud summit

[sharp saddle]

Don't multipost.

[fiery atlas]

Whoops

But does anyone know what happened to em?

[open crescent]

no idea who that is

[cloud summit]

Hi?

[daring topaz]

Hi.. I just joined vr chat and need friends preferably 21+ message me😅

[dapper mauve]

Hello!

[sharp saddle]

Hello there.

[warped rune]

Oi

[celest ingot]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 39766 users in VRChat currently

[daring topaz]

How are you all?:)

[warped rune]

Im good

Wau?

[daring topaz]

I’m good thank you:)

[regal furnace]

i wonder why

[open crescent]

now we can make bets on how long til mr. green gets banned

[open crescent]

[lethal glacier]

Anyone wanna play

[hexed sage]

i’ve just started vr chat if anyone wants to be friends?

[lethal glacier]

Anyone wanna play

[cinder sedge]

e

[ruby needle]

VRChat does not support NFT's so there can not be a NFT avatar. (and that is good.)

[serene sun]

does anyone wanna be friends? im looking for quest or pcvr, preferably pcvr. i play on quest 2 with fbt! im 14 and i like anime. dm me if u wanna be friends:)

[rancid jewel]

sleepy 🛏️

[fiery bone]

I got kickied ;-;

[vocal shard]

On what charges?

[fossil idol]

Did you talk too much in peoples ears?

[vocal shard]

I wonder what that will mean for Ready Player Me and VRChat’s connection.

[noble depot]

interestingly, Tafi's ad isn't there anymore in VRChat home

[sharp saddle]

Tafi sucked.

[noble depot]

non fungib-

[vocal shard]

I like lines.

[unborn jewel]

I don't know much about nfts but couldn't you still put the eth blockchain on it separately and still use it? Therefore making it an NFT avatar

[ruby needle]

That's... not how that works.

Also, good luck putting the whole BC data into an avatar.

[teal tangle]

Ya

[vocal shard]

i saw a cool avatar but it only had crypto paying options and then i asked the people in the server if i could pay with real money and then they got so salt at me

being like "crypto is the future get with it" or smth

[noble depot]

:weirdchamp:

[unborn jewel]

Ye idk how it works

[prisma widget]

If you had light node version of the data its about 300mb, which you can probably put in vrchat :P

[rose plume]

uyo

[lucid swan]

An NFT avatar is technically possible

Just not in that way.

You could have an Avatar as a bonus to buying an NFT

Therefore making it an NFT avatar, something you can only get from buying that NFT.

[ruby needle]

No

[lucid swan]

Though that's not a great solution and of course people could clone it if somebody had cloning on

[ruby needle]

That's still not an NFT

[graceful pewter]

the token has nothing to do with what actually gets upload to vrchat

[lucid swan]

It's an avatar associated with an NFT

[ruby needle]

It's just a Avatar.

[lucid swan]

If you want to get technical

[graceful pewter]

a nft is a receipt that just cost too much electricity

[lucid swan]

It's like getting a ticket to a yacht cruise from an NFT

It's a bonus to buying an NFT

I'm not saying the avatar itself is what you are buying

[ruby needle]

Which is exactly why the Avatar is a Avatar

And not a NFT

So you can not put a NFT in VRChat

[lucid swan]

But it's associated with said Nft

Just like that cruise example

[ruby needle]

But isn't the NFT.

[lucid swan]

Ok I mean I wasn't saying you could

I just said you could sorta get around it since vrchat isn't endorcing nfts

[ruby needle]

But you don't

Because it's not the actual thing.

[lucid swan]

It's an avatar you get from buying an NFT

[ruby needle]

But not an NFT

[lucid swan]

No shit sherlock

[ruby needle]

Just an normal avatar.

You're contradicting your self.

[lucid swan]

How?

I didn't say the avatar was an NFT

I'm saying you could buy say an image, and additionally you get access to an avatar from it

The avatar itself is not an NFT

[ruby needle]

Cus you keep trying to imply that that is what you actually want to say without using the words for it.
Just to say you didn't say that when it get's called out.

[ruby needle]

So it's not a workaround which is what you have written.

Because it isn't the same.

[lucid swan]

Or maybe you just misinterpreted what I have said

[lucid swan]

No it's definitely a workaround, gets just about the same thing accomplished & an nft is purchased

It's just the avatar itself isn't an NFT

[ruby needle]

Workaround would mean you can get "the thing" into X by a different mean then intendet.
But you can not because it isn't the thing...

[lucid swan]

Same goal is met so what is your point

What's the major difference between an Avatar Receipt and a Receipt that gives you an avatar

?

[graceful pewter]

well you still can't advertise nfts on vrchat

[lucid swan]

Wait what?

[ruby needle]

One is an NFT, the other is just an avatar purchased/accessed through weird ways.
They key element of what makes an NFT a NFT is literally missing there.

[graceful pewter]

https://hello.vrchat.com/blog/our-policy-on-nfts-and-blockchain-in-vrchat

[lucid swan]

Ah I just thought they meant they weren't going to include NFT integration or whatever

[graceful pewter]

nope it's also against the rules. to advertise them on vrchat

[lucid swan]

Dope

Wait so if I jokingly asked if people wanted to buy NFTs is that ban worthy

Because I think it would be hilarious to go around as butters & ask if people knew about NFTs

[slate verge]

no, but it can lead to it

[graceful pewter]

probably would result in you getting blocked a lot

[honest palm]

Are u guys saying you can have nfts in vr chat

[vocal shard]

Anything is possible

Silly 😜

[vocal shard]

Hi!, im new to vrchat:)

[rancid jewel]

based vrchat

[rancid jewel]

hi welcome no you cant leave

[solid bluff]

Somewhat same

[vocal shard]

Okay i wont leave

[graceful pewter]

no that's not possible since any importing method would basically destroy the connection to the NFT

[vocal shard]

whats a nft?🤔

[neon grotto]

To be fair running around with a lazy lion Png in your hand and telling people to buy it would be funny

[graceful pewter]

a non-fungible token basically a receipt taped to a cryptocurrency

[vocal shard]

Also how do i get good avatars?

[vocal shard]

go hunting

[vocal shard]

non fundible token

do you know any avatar world names?

[vocal shard]

dont worry i didnt know what it was a month ago

[vocal shard]

just search for some world you want or go to avatar worlds section

ok thank you!

np

[honest palm]

I see

[graceful pewter]

that point you would just have a normal avatar with a overly expensive receipt used to purchase it

[honest palm]

Ppl like to show off

[graceful pewter]

also a avatar like that would be a giant kick me sign on vrchat

[indigo arrow]

got kick out to sign as well

[upbeat dew]

I hope VRC also bans any advertisement of NTFS. #PenguinArmRiseUp

[little laurel]

Ntfs?

We lost the filesystem battle a decade ago. Now its every OS for themselves.

[worldly fog]

how can i make friends in VRC

[little laurel]

Lots of headpats.

[meager solstice]

Go up and talk to people

[worldly fog]

ok

[worldly fog]

ima try it idk if it will work

[meager solstice]

How else do people make friends without interacting with others?

[manic spindle]

Of course it will work with someone

[lethal glacier]

Anyone wanna play

[vocal shard]

Is VRChat down? I can not log in

[lethal glacier]

Banned?

💀

[vocal shard]

Nope

[lethal glacier]

Then idk

[vocal shard]

I'm 7 day suspended

[gilded ruin]

I need me some ffxiv worlds

[gleaming moth]

thats basicly a temporarily ban then.

[lethal glacier]

anyone wanna play

[sudden zenith]

Anyone got any fun games on ve

Vr"

[rose cargo]

Hey I was wondering if there are any worlds where you can just chill and perform guitar?

Like an open mic perhaps

[meager solstice]

Open Mic Night @rose cargo

vrc has lots of groups that focus around playing music as well

[final wedge]

yes

[vocal shard]

who wanna play vr chat

[lethal glacier]

Anyone wanna play

[vocal shard]

Not worth the drama. Keep away. Was in that group for a few months. Regretted it

[dense ore]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-60415317.amp

"Metaverse app allows kids into virtual strip clubs"

Hmmmmmmm not looking good, idk why vrc doesn't have a opt in or verification system to avoid over 18 stuff

[fossil idol]

Remu has returned... with a disturbing new meme

[dense ore]

Yus yuss

The BBC is a meme tbh xD

[fossil idol]

yes indeed. why wouldnt Facebook want to attract kids to their VR area for adults, and take all their data

[dense ore]

For a 13+ game xd

[fossil idol]

Yup... I'll stick to VRChat for the next 5 years

[dense ore]

I mean if you read it..... you would notice they are talking about vrchat

[surreal bluff]

5 years? this game won't die out

[fossil idol]

I didn't say it would die out?

[surreal bluff]

Oh personally leaving

[fossil idol]

You do realise other games will rise bro

[surreal bluff]

Oh crap my bad

[fossil idol]

"I'll" Stick to VRC For the next 5 years

[surreal bluff]

I know I was wrong, honest appologies

[fossil idol]

woooosh

[surreal bluff]

I've been woooshed

[dense ore]

:/

[fossil idol]

Remu is mad

[eager wyvern]

Don’t try and have a logical conversation with teenage trolls. Their tiny brains can’t comprehend it

[fossil idol]

Thats rude . .

[surreal bluff]

[SHSH, don't aggrevate it]

[fossil idol]

Im not aggrevating anything

[surreal bluff]

It picks on everything you say or do, just breathing could do it

[fossil idol]

Just saying its rude and shouldn't enter the chat just to say something that doesn't add anything other than bullying.

[surreal bluff]

it's most likely a karen, the only winning move

Is not to play.

[fossil idol]

I didn't call her a karen. You're literally picking on her now

[eager wyvern]

I just reported every gross thing you said about me on the other chat

Enjoy your upcoming ban

[surreal bluff]

I was just saying that

[fossil idol]

Wall-E or me?

[eager wyvern]

@surreal bluff

[fossil idol]

ah. I see.

[surreal bluff]

both, both is good

[eager wyvern]

Walle

[surreal bluff]

[nah akito is good]

[eager wyvern]

You didn’t do anything akito but this dude is toxic and gross

[fossil idol]

I know, thats why I don't respond much to em

[surreal bluff]

and I actually hope I get banned, my abusive ex is still lingering on this account. Thanks!

[novel marten]

Sorry to ask but context

[fossil idol]

Read the chat instead of asking works ye

[surreal bluff]

that was in #vrchat-general-1 if I'm not mistaken

[eager wyvern]

They might’ve deleted it by now

[surreal bluff]

nah I don't delete messages

[fossil idol]

She didnt talk about you

Chat Mods.

[eager wyvern]

The mods delete toxic and abusive stuff

[surreal bluff]

It's hard to know who's talking to who y'know

I'm not used to huge servers as I spend most of my time in smaller groups

[fossil idol]

good for you ig. I just say, both quit being rude, Lets not start anything

Trance if you wanna get rid of him for being a dick. Then being a dick won't help getting rid of him. It just helps him to stay

off-topic for that, this is a vrc channel innit

[dense ore]

Yeaaaa, I just don't really bother past that not worth the effort if they don't try

[fossil idol]

I didnt know you were talking about VRC when you said metaverse >:I

[dense ore]

I just posted the headline on quotation marks.... blame BBC for their misleading titles

[fossil idol]

yep daz dumb

and why do they still call them strip clubs... its night clubs

[dense ore]

Because nightclubs are just clubs/bars that have music at night. Strip clubs are the same things but orientates around sexulising people stripping.

[fossil idol]

I don't think VRC night clubs are sexualising people... its just people who love dancing, doing it in front of audiences ay?

[dense ore]

Fully body tracking heaven?

[neon grotto]

I think BBC was looking for weird stuff

[dense ore]

But yea I digress this isn't the best place to talk about anything serious

[neon grotto]

Cause it’s not hard to stay out of it, players can choose wether or not to go in weird worlds

They got descriptions and names and stuff, even a preview of the world in a picture

[fossil idol]

You do realise these clubs are private and you need to be of age to get in

[umbral reef]

Kinda what a journalist looking for a story does yes

[neon grotto]

BBC journalist stupid

[lethal glacier]

Hello

[little forge]

Aye yo 🤨

Hol up

Thats not what that said lmfaooo

Hmm idk ig im out of it

[dire thicket]

Alright, so looking at something interesting that recently showed up from the bbc. Heres a question,

Why do you think vrchat hasn't pushed forward with any "age-gating", "content-restrictions". Even though they've been suggested for years especially on the canny?

[umbral reef]

Let me answer that by asking another question
What system can Vrchat implement that would not be a giant security/privacy risk to impact these things?

[ruby needle]

(And not leads to much more content productions BECAUSE of the gate too.)

[umbral reef]

Would also be nice if people did not get banned for mistakes too as that kinda unhandy to have

[dire thicket]

Mmm? I'm pretty sure vrchat guidelines heavily restricts sexualised content (whilst not enforced) even twitch guidelines had to be inclusive to "virtual circumstances" last they were updated (Whilst not heavily enforced unlike they were before where cough quite a few people got temp banned then some complained about it on youtube | Lets not get into how youtube has gotten into a semi-sexual state of clips especially with vrchat clips )

[umbral reef]

Well VRchat does flat out ban or stop people from going into non private worlds if they get reported?

[dire thicket]

How exactly does that effect or change anything exactly? I don't about you, most of the time people get "banned" they've always just hopped onto a alt-account until they're ban is over.

I'm confused now.

[umbral reef]

That is why i asked you your question back, what can Vrchat do beside banning people once they know someone is breaking the rules?

[dire thicket]

You're really confusing.

[umbral reef]

You asked why Vrchat has not taken more action to combat Nsfw content right?

[fossil idol]

rip dark one

[dire thicket]

Mmm? I'm not asking why vrchat hasn't taken more action.

What the fuck

My question Why do you think vrchat hasn't pushed forward with any "age-gating", "content-restrictions". Even though they've been suggested for years especially on the canny?

[umbral reef]

The push forward with age gating/content restrictions?

[fossil idol]

Pretty difficult when parents just agree and sign anything their kids do because "Oh its just a social silly vr game

of course I'll sign it and let them play!

[umbral reef]

The game is already 13+, changing that to something higher wont change anything.
People will still lie about there age and the bad content wont vanish

[rancid jewel]

funny video game :)

[umbral reef]

Even if you allow it in a special place, under aged kids can still join those places unless you put really harsh restrictions on it, what isnt realistic

[fossil idol]

I'd say if you want adult places you just have to open a discord server club thing, thats open to 16+ or 18+

or "Mature Only"

legit joined one of those worlds, and it was just kids in front of a mirror

but they werent that bad, they were not yelling or screaming, they were vibing like anyone else.

or like any other mirror people

[ruby needle]

Instead it will encourage people to make even more questionable content because it isn't 13+ anymore.

[rancid jewel]

no game where you can upload custom content is free from this

[fossil idol]

Pretty much. "NSFW Worlds" will be all you see in "New"

[rancid jewel]

flashbacks to when the twitch chat of the dev stream was just "make the game 18+!"

[fossil idol]

Well the game Sea of thieves has something called Insider where its like Open beta except you're not allowed to talk about anything thats in the Insider program. Why not have a VRC Mature that you can only get into on the vrc website and get access to the not 13+ side.

[rancid jewel]

i don't suggest even joking about that as that's all it takes to be thrown into the sun (replying to zen)

[umbral reef]

And whats stopping form a 16yo signing up to that?

[fossil idol]

idk how you stop kids from doing it except most being dumb and not knowing how to set up a VRC account on the website or how to connect it to their quest.

[ruby needle]

Not only does a NDA for non public builds not compare at all, there is a motherload of other problems with the generall acceptance of such content.

[fossil idol]

Mature, not 18+ horny things

[fossil idol]

well for the game again sea of thieves, when you join insider, you get a code to actually get the insider version on steam as a seperate game, but still pretty much identical but with betas. Is that not possible at all as a concept?

[rancid jewel]

#vrchat-general-1 message
it is now 12 on the vrc discord convo clock

[dire thicket]

A interesting part is how things interactions with other platforms may be affected by putting a higher age demographic or definition of content officially. Especially on steam, Sure you can download Mature games however unless you "mod" or access dlc, you won't get applice-able to adult (18+) content.

[forest estuary]

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60415317

[ruby needle]

Good morning

The whole conversation is already about that

Sigh

[rancid jewel]

of course BBC tries to intentionally bash the non corporate part of social VR by only looking at the negative

[dire thicket]

Still a interesting point of conversation, especially after drinking hu hu hu.

[fossil idol]

Darkie, truth be told. Just find mature friends and stick to them and they'll introduce you to more adult friends :p

[ruby needle]

The problem isn't just "forbidding it"
It is even allowing it.

Even if you would make a perfect gate and only 18+ people get into the 18+ Side.
VRchat would loose existing / future funding / media partners.
Probably get banned on a lot of platforms.
Much more negative standing and so on.

The issue with permitting that content is, as i already said, much much deeper then the surface scratching most people do.

[fossil idol]

randomized password you need to get from people on this discord like chatmods just for the game and you type the code in on the game menu..?

aka nobody can really share the password since its always a new one and cant get it without proof of being adultsies

[umbral reef]

Same applies still, what's stopping an immature person from doing it

[dire thicket]

Iv been in this game for way to long, most of the "mature" friends you come across that are merely there to assimilate others in their ways, have had no or little "care" to the other people they've engage with socially. People almost sometimes feel like they have a inheriant right to solititate their friends sexually.

[fossil idol]

a mature discord server where you dont get access to the rest of the server, you ofc need to dm and prove you're an adult, either holding up a sign with something written on it, your ID maybe with censored out everything except year of birth

[dire thicket]

People i generally keep around, if they only come onto vrchat to be lewd, or in my words; unwholesome, they go poofy. Since, im the most wholesome person in the multiverse. Since i despise fake people.

[fossil idol]

you should probably not join that

[fossil idol]

Gaaasp... but I love my unwholesome humour with my pals

well you're not a good person to talk to

Yeah it is

Thats nice, I agreed with you and you go straight to bullying

I didnt say anything bad to you, I just dont think I'd have a good time chatting with you. I agree that its my opinion

[dire thicket]

You can be unwholesome/lewd as you wish, yet this draws the question; are the people really your friend or merely associating with you due to ****** (whatever comes to mind) the key point that it stems to whether or not you're a real friend to those you've engaged with or, if they mean nothing to you and it's all a mere game.

[fossil idol]

Ah, Then we're good

[dire thicket]

Actually

Since that article brought something up.

[fossil idol]

report your friend ig

[dire thicket]

Anyone ever pay attention tooo, what was it called again

[fossil idol]

the vrc thing by bbc?

[umbral reef]

So a highly insecure giant security risk that has legal consequences if mis used
There is a reason no company beside stock companies require you to do those things online

[fossil idol]

you use very odd words

[dire thicket]

need to search the world.

[fossil idol]

There is a reason no company beside stock companies require you to do those things

Can I get the chat mod now for harassment?

why not

I never talked about you tho

Schasy is harassing me without reasoning and it's just quite rude

I agreed with em on something and they just go straight on attack.

how

Ah yes of course the channel of all channels

[dire thicket]

What was the world, that was associated with "Age regressors in vrchat", it was the really sus world and discord that was so sus that nothing happened to it

[fossil idol]

I'm gonna have fun now filling out my request I guess

[dire thicket]

Awgh! so after 1-2 years, "Little space" (world- Dont know about the weird fing discord) actually either got taken down or got privated kek

[fossil idol]

I'm just filling out my discord report on you for harassing me tho

[umbral reef]

Saving private data like that comes with a lot of laws
A small discord can fly under the radar with that stuff, a proper company can't.
Because of the insane laws with it no company wants to do so unless they are forced by law

[fossil idol]

but... Discord does that tho

[umbral reef]

Discord as a company does not do that

[fossil idol]

then why cant vrc do the same as not a company

[umbral reef]

VRc is a company
Not sure how a company can do things not as a company

[dire thicket]

vrc wants money, how to best get money and make profit? not loose the cliental, bringing in the profit.

Key thing people always forget, vrc is not a charity. The corporate actions will always be to most benefit finically

[fossil idol]

so... make money off kids basically without actually saying it

[rancid jewel]

what's chat on about now

[fossil idol]

dunno

[spark wraith]

Anyone talking about the bbc article?

[fossil idol]

not anymore no

[dire thicket]

The article just shows a small part of what the community has highlighted vrchat over the years yet been met on deafed years.

[fossil idol]

Articles is all about catching eyes so that they click and they get money. It doesnt matter if its true or not, thats how it is with "Movie leaks and Rumours"

[rancid jewel]

this game changed my life for the better i do not like seeing it get bad mouthed like this

[fossil idol]

good things in articles dont get clicks.

[worn plinth]

Well ever since covid people have been on VRchat more

[fossil idol]

and all they're met with is people bullying, screaming kids, or mirror people.

[worn plinth]

That's why some times me and my mates do invite only

[dire thicket]

The only issue with children developed when quest was actually introduced into vrchat.

[worn plinth]

Like when the pubs and night club was shut down we went to the drinking world

[dire thicket]

When it became prevalent especially around christmass of each year.

[fossil idol]

Darkie, I suggest sleeping worlds

[worn plinth]

The Christmas noobs

[dire thicket]

Whenever iv seen people try say "they're parents bought the quest" my response is always, your parents bought your xbox didn't they?

[worn plinth]

I started buying my own things at 12

Now I normally help my parents if they need help with money but rent in the UK is getting higher now

[fossil idol]

oh My god how did you know, my dad got me a xbox fridge

[worn plinth]

As much I like an Xbox fridge, I rather have a Gfuel fridge

[fossil idol]

i dont have xbox fridge, i really want that gfuel one

It looks so damn nice and its a good size

[worn plinth]

Now if I save more money I probably just get a fridge with an ice machine built with it

Like if I'm going to work I need my caffeine and cold ice with the gfuel

[amber needle]

Anyone wanna be friends

[pliant spoke]

sure

[fossil idol]

I'm also his bbg

[pliant spoke]

ok? i didnt ask?

[fossil idol]

I missed the part where thats my problem

[pliant spoke]

k im out

[fossil idol]

bully maguire quotes works again

[worn plinth]

You put some dirt in his eyes

[fossil idol]

stings doesnt it

[amber needle]

https://tenor.com/view/tobey-maguire-gonna-cry-spiderman-gif-11392654

[hexed sage]

it’s pizza time

[sterile notch]

Hi

I'm new here

[warm oxide]

anyone know where i can find a vr connection wire to get steam gaems pls help

[sharp saddle]

Depends... for what headset?

[warm oxide]

oculus quest 2

[inland turret]

u mean the wire or the app?

[warm oxide]

i need a wire that can plug into my pc so i can buy steam games for it

[inland turret]

ahh just buy any 3m+ usb c to a or c to c

[warm oxide]

oh 💀

[sharp saddle]

You don't necessarily need a Link Cable, buy Virtual Desktop and you can connect wirelessly (if you have good connection speeds)

[inland turret]

just find oculus link cable on amazon and u're good to go

that too

must have a good connection tho

if u wanna play smoothly i suggest just get the cable

[warm oxide]

why do i see ones that are 20 dollar and 80 dollar what is the difference

[inland turret]

80 is the official one i think

[warm oxide]

oh

[sharp saddle]

Mmhm. Don't bother with the official Link Cable, there's others that are cheaper.

[warm oxide]

oh

[inland turret]

i just buy a third party since the official cable is 110$ in my country

i suggest u buy the usb c to c cable since it drains ur battery much slower than usb c to a

*if u have usb c on your computer/laptop

[warm oxide]

ok

[sharp saddle]

Wait, what? o_O

Proof?

[warm oxide]

?

what

[inland turret]

i read many articles on reddit and watch youtube videos that says usb c to c on oculus can last up to 8hrs

[sharp saddle]

Uhh... how?

[inland turret]

maybe i'll try it when my cable arrived next week

cus usb c has a much faster data transfer and... idk how to say it

english is my 2nd language XD

[sharp saddle]

I use VD and just keep my shit plugged in while in VR.

[inland turret]

vd?

[warm oxide]

virtual desktop

[inland turret]

ahh

[sharp saddle]

Doesn't have to be connected to my PC, just needs a USB port.

[warm oxide]

thats kinda nutty

[inland turret]

tru that'll last forever

but wifi in my country are freakin terrible

[warm oxide]

wait im ouit of usb ports 💀

[inland turret]

umm try to see if u have usb c?

[warm oxide]

i only have usb 3.0

[inland turret]

ahh thats a shame

well then use usb c to usb a then

[warm oxide]

cant i just unplug my keyboard since im gonna be on a vr anyways

[inland turret]

it'll only last for 5 hrs but who gonna play vr for 5 hrs anyway XD

[inland turret]

yeah u can do that

[sharp saddle]

Grommet USBs ftw.

[inland turret]

oh yea those things

[warm oxide]

have u guys seen this zenith game on steam

[inland turret]

they have a usb c port

yess i've seen them, an mmorpg vr right

[vocal shard]

I am in the minority that did not like its awful launch, I do know of it though, yep.

[hollow terrace]

is it bad I have such crippling social anxiety that I spent 2 days setting up vrchat but still haven't had a conversation

[inland turret]

sadge same...

[hollow terrace]

I have a battery backup, a new headstrap, did a bunch of settings / "other" stuff

annnnd I still haven't talked to anyone

[vocal shard]

It may take some time to open up to folks, just know that most people are more than welcoming to people coming up and joining in conversation.

[inland turret]

i still havent received my vr XD

70% why i cant start a convo is bcs i cant speak english fluently

[hollow terrace]

I definitely suggest virtual desktop over oculus link

[inland turret]

i can start a convo with my own people

[hollow terrace]

it's WAY better

[inland turret]

nahhh

my wifi is poopoo

[hollow terrace]

does your computer have a wifi card in it?

[inland turret]

yes

[hollow terrace]

I used my wifi card as a hotspot so I could connect the headset, nearly zero lag and I have tons of routers near me

[inland turret]

wait so no need good internet connection?

[hollow terrace]

the same level of internet connection you would need as wired

[inland turret]

ah then still crappy then...

my wifi speed is only 20mbps

[hollow terrace]

ehhhh? that's more than enough?

[vocal shard]

I may not be able to speak for everyone, but I do not mind that. Even a simple hello and maybe mentioning that and people should still be fine with trying to talk to you.

[inland turret]

noo cuz it runs half speed most of the time

[hollow terrace]

my internet tops out at 48mbps and is on average 24-25

so it's pretty doable?

[inland turret]

i tried that but most of the time after i said hello they just keep talking with their group

[inland turret]

probably? i might try that after my oculus arrived

since i bought them with the cables...

[vocal shard]

You can add me if you want, I am usually able to be joined off of.

[hollow terrace]

if you're going to use steamvr I'd suggest going ahead and downloading it because it's like 6 GB

[inland turret]

oh imma do it now

its downloading at 930kbps right now

pain

[inland turret]

lemme try adding u

[vocal shard]

My in-game is the same as my Discord.

[inland turret]

same for me

[vocal shard]

Whenever I am in game next I will accept it.

[inland turret]

thanks

[vocal shard]

No problem.

[vocal shard]

yall seen the bbc new article about vrchat?

[unreal shoal]

I'm sure everyone has

It's shitty journalism what can I say lmao

[eager widget]

i think they called it a metaverse app too lol. makes me wanna throw up

[inland turret]

every boomer or clickbaity youtuber calling either vr chat or rec room a metaverse now

[manic spindle]

I mean it does make a bit of sense as it's the closest thing we have so far

But it doesn't mean it's right

[open crescent]

Next on the list for BBC:
Internet lets minors access porn! Unthinkable!

[surreal bluff]

Most likely already has been a post

[regal furnace]

i saw that stuff on TV when i was like 8, who cares? (i mean, it was 4am and on some cursed channel, but still)

the real world is not kid friendly, people should stop trying to make it already

[open crescent]

I know yeah, my post was meant to be sarcasm, I am mocking the bbc for that article

(although if they eventually decide to add something additional for age verification I wouldn't mind)

[regal furnace]

i wouldnt mind having a manual age verification for vrchat tbh

[manic spindle]

Yeah but then what happens to minors? Some may say it's not a place for minors due to the content in it, but most are mature if they are over 13 and don't have access to an Id or anything that can prove age

I feel like it's just an issue parents will have to deal with themselves

[open crescent]

yeah I guess parents would have to register their kids maybe

[molten orchid]

An age verification to unlock everything in VRChat if there was an "under 18" section of VRChat used by default would be cool but although I'd have no issue with verifying my age, I'm willing to bet that not everyone would be.

[vestal pier]

Age verification, like sending your ID to VRC?

[molten orchid]

Yeah. I can't think of another way of hand.

[vestal pier]

Its not an airtight solution, kids ask their parents to buy them the latest CoD every year.

[molten orchid]

Well you'd hope that their parents have the sense to go "Why do you need to borrow my ID young one?"

[vestal pier]

Youd hope their parents wouldnt leave them unattended in what is essentially a mall.

[molten orchid]

Though common sense unfortunately isn't all that common. At least where I live anyway.

[vestal pier]

The problem is not the age cap in VRC, not sure why people point to that as a solution

[molten orchid]

Some parents are using the Quest and tablets and things as a babysitter in some cases and then letting them run rampant.

[vestal pier]

And the solution is to make legitimate users send in their ID? that doesnt make sense 😋

[molten orchid]

Yeah, like I mentioned, not everyone would want that. It seems a little late to be doing that either way.

[vocal shard]

teenagers without licenses sending in their social security number

😹👋😐

[cold talon]

How else are you supposed to get free candy?

[surreal bluff]

Like this

🍪

[gusty current]

i need someone to play with i have no friends

[vocal shard]

Ask me again Saturday

[lethal glacier]

Anyone wanna play

[plucky musk]

play what

[lethal glacier]

Vrc

[plucky musk]

na im good

maybe laterr

[cyan skiff]

I think we need to put a mature content pack into the game where we can put clubs and stuff under and it would be a steam dlc only not accessible on quest this alone would reduce a incredibly large amount of kids going to clubs.

Doesn't mean make the game nsfw just means that we can put content intended for mature players to be separated from the regular list in world categories and only those who will see the world's in the mature content are those who have the dlc.

[vocal shard]

…😑

[pine epoch]

Thing is, interactions can happen outside of that.

Also, if you're buying into that, you're buying into a facebook hitpiece.

[cyan skiff]

Sadly yea

Regardless it needs some type of age gate

[noble depot]

1: no
2: VRChat allowing NSFW would lead to a l o t of problems, i.e legal and ingame - and yeah, NSFW would obv still take place outside of that. Plus, investors like HTC and etc would not invest in a game like that

[noble depot]

a long convo on age verification was just had, and it was extensively explained why it's not that simple - read from here down: <#vrchat-general-1 message>

[cyan skiff]

U can have mature content without it being nsfw

[vocal shard]

‘Well yes, but actually no’

[noble depot]

yes, but it's very, exceedingly obvious that 'mature' content would mostly be porn

like, most if not all

[cyan skiff]

Maybe vrchat needs to cut ties with meta/oculus lol

Unlikely tho from a financial point

[bitter bloom]

What about the oculus players tho

[noble depot]

there were still a notable amount of kids before the Quest was a thing - and there aren't any ties between Meta and VChat, them getting money from Oculus is common misinformation, and easily disproven because VRChat's investment history is public

[cyan skiff]

Ik that's why it would be very unlikely

That's fair

[bitter bloom]

Id hate if I couldn't play vrchat, I'm a questie

I just simply can't afford a PC

[cyan skiff]

I was until Xmas

[bitter bloom]

Even tho I'm working my ass off to buy one

I have a laptop that I even make avatars on

I just can't do PcVr rn

[cyan skiff]

Yea I spent 2years on quest

I can understand

[bitter bloom]

I'm going on 4

[cyan skiff]

I got the original when released back 2019

Just got off standalone this year

[bitter bloom]

Same

Except im still on it

[cyan skiff]

Hopefully someday u can pcvr

[wild raft]

Im getting tired of this "solution" why should I a person who has not committed any kind of ped0 actions and in no way support ped0s be forced to give my personally identifiable info to VRChats devs? I already hate that the quest is force connected to facebook. and I use it on a PC. why should I have to give more info to outside entitiys becouse of the actions of people i dispise? Please don't use the "greater good" or "if you have nothing to hide" falsity's. If you are not going to show your own face either.

[vestal pier]

👍

[pine epoch]

That sounds like you got something to hide when you word it like that.

I love it entirely on the basis I can be left alone by people I deem too young to be on it, but it isn't a feasible solution in the end of it.

[noble depot]

note that this was talked about pretty extensively earlier; read from here down: <#vrchat-general-1 message>

[loud schooner]

I think the verification is dumb and smart

Although i haven't played yet so I can't judge

[gleaming moth]

verification and the subject u are talking about is way different not sure where that came from lol

[vestal pier]

They quoted my message about sending ID.

I think anyone preaching that the platform should do anything other than what its doing, severely misunderstands how online spaces work.

I dont think VRChat could do anything even if they wanted to without severely impacting every party involved, including the players.

[noble depot]

it's kind of a fool's errand, ye

[pine epoch]

There's no grand solution other than better parenting.

[vestal pier]

I imagine theres a overlap with those who tell VRC to "fix ripping" 😋

[loud schooner]

Ripping?

[vestal pier]

Ripping!

[loud schooner]

What's ripping?

[noble depot]

Taking content out of the game (i.e 'ripping' it), which is against TOS, bannable, morally terrible, and potentially illegal, depending on what the ripper does with the content afterwards

[rancid jewel]

basically it's like uhhhhh taking things from game files and reuploading

[gleaming moth]

something that doesnt belong in vrc but sadly is a thing .

[noble depot]

You can make it more difficult, but stopping it entirely is bluntly impossible due to how rendering things works in general lol

[vestal pier]

Well... if we switched to cloud computing and streamed VRC we could fix it 😋

[noble depot]

streamed VR at 200 ping :gag:

[rancid jewel]

Google stadia

[vestal pier]

As long as those darn rippers cant get my totally legally sourced vrchat model i found 20 minutes ago!!!

[loud schooner]

Oh

[rancid jewel]

ripping models from single player games :)
ripping models from vrchat :(

[gleaming moth]

u be suprised then infact every single model to the game are usually ripped instantly which is a shame but a fact .

[vestal pier]

I am not surprised :-)

[meager solstice]

Just like every other game

[wild raft]

the difference with the avi rpping thing. Is its not a story that can be sold on mainstream media. to send boomers and facebook karrens into a rage.

[wild raft]

saddly it only took a day and a half for sides to be drawn hopefuly this is only a twitter problom. But over there any dissagreement with the hit peices is now seen as support of pedophiles. bad things are comeing

[vestal pier]

Nothing is coming.

[coral birch]

They need to add a button in game to report for being underage. As it stands you have to create an entire support ticket which discourages people from reporting and allows more kids in the game. If its against the rules to be under 13 where is the report option for it? There has been several times where I’ve recorded a child saying they are like 7 and then sent it to vr chat and nothing happened. The problem isn’t a lack of verification, it’s a lack of enforcement

[ruby needle]

How would the button work?

How does it proof they are underage?

[vestal pier]

What does it do when they are reported?

[noble depot]

the issue isn't enforcement, the issue is people not reporting with evidence, or people not reporting with evidence that actually proves anything

[broken plover]

send the vrcat to that person's exact location to verify their age

[coral birch]

Button doesn’t prove anything for any reason you click it. It just flags them for investigation.

[noble depot]

a high-pitched voice is not enough to determine someone's age definitively

[gleaming moth]

the basic issue is that on the internet u can be anonymous basicly .

[ruby needle]

So... does literally nothing.
VRChat can't send an army of people stalking people to see if they are actually underage.
That is problematic on many different reasons.

This is why advanced reports are necessary.

[vestal pier]

I dont understand the narrative of blaming / punishing the children. What were you doing when you were 13, i sure as hell wasnt obeying internet rules only going to club penguin and playing adventure quest. 😆

Removing them is impossible.

[coral birch]

The report button has other options like harassment that you can’t prove.

[lethal glacier]

Anyone wanna play

[gleaming moth]

again the responsability lies within parents, a suggestion could be that split whatever screen thing parents can get so they can see their kids play the game and what is going on while playing the game, tho there is already seperate free softwares for that

[noble depot]

^

[vestal pier]

Parents give things to their kids to distract them, parents realistically cannot watch what their kids do 24/7

[gleaming moth]

i wouldnt assume every parent let their kids play 24/7 and even if so and they are well aware of the risks in vrc or VR in general then maybe they should reconsider their choice

[vestal pier]

Ideally. sure.

Realistically, not at all.

[coral birch]

Its just really frustrating how instead of working on security and moderation issues, they screw around with ui for a couple months

[vestal pier]

Totally different teams. lol

[gleaming moth]

i mean, u be the scientist to breakthrough with the 'perfect' solution

[coral birch]

Theres very clear fixes to crashing, at least on pc that haven’t been implemented

[vestal pier]

a UI/UX designer is not in charge of security.

There are fixes to lots of things, its about implementing them in a way that doesnt conflict with things

[coral birch]

I mean ive seen people install them and nothing in the game breaks

[vestal pier]

Some of the most popular mods often completely breaks Udon game worlds! You cant just shoehorn in things.

[noble depot]

oh boy, this argument again

also they have been very actively working on security and moderation

the big ASN block being the most recently visible

[coral birch]

They don’t anymore especially _____ which is the main fix to proton crashing

[vestal pier]

They arent stupid, if there was an easy one size fits all fix what makes you think they wouldnt do it?

[noble depot]

don't name mods

[vestal pier]

There are so many logistical challenges that comes with implementing even basic features.

[noble depot]

also as it's been mentioned ad infinitum before, adding mod code to the game is not as easy as it might sound
Modders don't have to worry about whether or not their code breaks something else ingame, conflicts with a future update, doesn't fit the game's code styleguide, is unoptimized, or etc

[graceful pewter]

or breaks the games balance

[outer lichen]

Question! Any way to make index controllers smaller? This may be impossible for me, but my hands are so small that using the buttons and joycon are pretty hard.

The rift was a perfect size, but my hands slide down on the index and I have to shove them back up just to reach. I'm 19, just have midget hands lol
Already have the strap at the smallest notch

[vestal pier]

if you count using a hacksaw as making them smaller, sure!

[coral birch]

At the top left of unity click on the scale button and resize them however you like

[outer lichen]

Damn, wish I could X'D

Oh well. Guess I only have my genetics to blame for sad tiny hands

[vocal shard]

@outer lichen get bigger hands

Maybe your hands will get bigger when you get older

[wild raft]

oh this stupid argument again. Tell me how do you do this?
Ban for quest usage: how about the many people who use quest but are not children?

Ban for sound of voice? I know many people men and women who are of age and have higher voices and lots of men in the rp community have feminine voices and play female characters. As such if you believe this. You better hope your voice doesn't register as too high for anyone else who has your mindset or your going to find yourself on the receiving end of a ban which although ironic and hallaruouis to me. would not be good for you or many of the people i spend my vrchat time with.

Require real life ID to log on? How about no i'm not giving my personal info just to log onto vr chat.

Pay for access: How about no absolutely not. People already pay for vrc+, not to mention the multiple content creators that have been working on this platform, spesficly becouse it is free and open. Make a pay wall(that won't even work becouse kids just use their parrents credit cards anyway) will just piss everyone off.

i see you have erased your comment. CVR has an active player base of 12 people its all time peak was 300 something. CVR figured nothing out

now please answer the questions

[coral birch]

I dont have to answer the questions just like vr chat doesn’t have to have a reason for banning worlds. Cvr has its 18+ content behind a dlc

[coral birch]

Also how do you verify that someone was harassing someone. Yet the button still exists to report someone for harassment

You could provide video evidence but people have sent videos of kids saying that they are underage and nothing was done

[wild raft]

non argument. To verrfie age it would require people give their personal info to VRChat. How about no.

[wild raft]

So therefore everyone must give their personal info out and dox themselves or pay money for access. What do you expect to be done. do you expect people to just magically be ban immediately.

[coral birch]

How do you ban people for harassment

[coral birch]

I never said age verification. You are assuming that

[wild raft]

The only way to ban for age would be age verification

there is no otherway

Unless you want to ban for sound of voice. which i have allready pointed out is stupid as fuck

[coral birch]

You’re not creative enough then. But just not having a way to remove children isn’t the answer either. Having an age requirement means nothing if its not enforced

[vocal shard]

lmao 14 year old child give me your social security number

[coral birch]

I never said that

[vocal shard]

i know

[wild raft]

how do you prpose age restriction be enforced then.

[graceful pewter]

okay so how do you find out their age to enforce under 13 bans

[coral birch]

At the very least ban people for saying that they are under 13 in a video recording

[earnest relic]

tbf, Steam has a system in place where you just enter your birthdate for Adult rated games and if a child lies then it's them going against the system and adds a layer of deniability for Steam. 🤷

[coral birch]

This

[wild raft]

The mods don't have time to look threw hundreds of video recordings that lack context and could be doctored to get someone wrongly ban.

thats what your asking for

[noble depot]

which VRChat already has

[coral birch]

Okay then they also cant ban people for harassment because they dont have time to look through it all. Yet the button is there

[noble depot]

when you create an account, you're asked for your date of birth, and to complete a captcha

[earnest relic]

Yes, but that limit is currently 13 iirc

[vocal shard]

I love you VRCHAT And i miss playing so much 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[noble depot]

ye, as the game is 13+

making the game 18+ would cause a l o t more issues than it'd solve

[quaint zenith]

this is true

[wild raft]

How do you propose they do this? This is not a huge team that can monitor thousands of videos. again you keep bringing up the harassment argument. thats not the discussion here. The things your proposeing can only be enforced by id verification or a team of hundreds monitoring videos and twtich streams. This is not realisitc.

[vocal shard]

wait I got an idea

[wild raft]

you can block people for harassment

its a non arguement so stop fucking inserting it into this

[noble depot]

also, note that this was talked about extensively, literally all the points being brought up here, earlier - read from here down: <#vrchat-general-1 message>

[vocal shard]

vrchat duplicates the files of its game and makes a completely new game called VRsexyTime Inc for adults

[graceful pewter]

that doesn't actually solve their problem as they would still have to do all the ID checking stuff

[coral birch]

Thats why i dropped it originally by deleting my cvr comment but they just had to keep bringing it up

[earnest relic]

You can persist to keep the game 13+, and also have 18+ verification for worlds that creators tic as "adult content", and have a second screening process upon entering those worlds that are ticked as "Potential adult content"

[noble depot]

to all parties involved, this has been talked about ad infinitum lol, not picking sides with this

[wild raft]

yet these people are bringing up the same stupid fucking debunked arguements over and over

[wild raft]

Say something stupid get called out

[umbral reef]

And how would that screening work past IDs as that is a nightmare the team does not want to handle

[coral birch]

Its not a non issue but you’re angry so im not gonna be able to have a real discussion about it.

[vocal shard]

yea it wouldnt solve the IDs lol

SexyTime Inc

[open crescent]

Make it $30 usd

[noble depot]

this was also talked about in the above convo - that would take employees to screen, and would also vastly increase the amount of time it takes for a world to be released. Plus, there's still the issue of under 18 people ending up in those worlds

[vocal shard]

my new company name

[open crescent]

Kids would stop very soon

[graceful pewter]

and also vrchat doesn't want any not-safe-for-work. at all

[vocal shard]

Yea thats for a legally distinct game pff

[noble depot]

again, investors would not invest in the platform if it permitted NSFW

[vocal shard]

Thats why u make new platform

[wild raft]

trying to have a discussion with people on your side of this results in the same 3 oe 4 stupid debunked arguments over and over
ID verification
Banning for sound of voice
Payed access

[vocal shard]

I cracked rhe case

[graceful pewter]

like vrchat has no motivation to make that spinoff

[vocal shard]

vrchat devs pay me now

[coral birch]

Congratulations you’re angry i get it. We have been told to drop this a ton of times. No ones gonna get anywhere with you so just leave it

[wild raft]

how about stop making the same worthless arguments over and over. then gaslighting people who tell you how stupid they are. Over and over on every platform.

[vocal shard]

lol

[open crescent]

He mad

[wild raft]

you won't change my mind becouse your fucking arguements are the same bullshit that has been debunked hundreds of times in the last 2 days

[coral birch]

How about stop assuming the arguments im making. I never said age verification i never said ban for voice

[coral birch]

Neither will you clearly so drop it. Its a pointless argument to have

[wild raft]

How do you propose you control acsess by age then. you still haven't answered that

[noble depot]

let's move on, no reason to get hostile about this

[open crescent]

Grabs el popcorn

[vocal shard]

face scanning technology run by facebook

i mean metaverse my bad guys

[wild raft]

That is even worse

[jovial kestrel]

Good idea.

[vocal shard]

i dont see what couldgo wrong with mark being in control of things

i trust mark zucc

[coral birch]

How about you stop getting so angry about it

[open crescent]

Now let's play how long until this guy gets banned for uncontrolled rage

[earnest relic]

Don't require ID's, just simply ask if they're above 18, if they tick yes, then that is the child going against the system put in place to prevent them from accessing adult content, and VRC shouldn't be held accountable.

If they want minors on their platform, they need to take steps in keeping those minors safely out of adult worlds, and also protect their business, as I said before, steam does this and screens you every time you enter a adult games store page. The other solution is to block all minors, but that seems to not be what they want, so if you want minors, you're gonna have to put in the work to keep them safe 🤷

[wild raft]

then stop makeing the same debunked trash arguements over and over

[umbral reef]

Only if its Jeff Bezos, i dont want zucc to do so

[vocal shard]

oh my

[coral birch]

I am not responsible for you being a jerk

[vocal shard]

Ah well he is my next go to so I understand your suspicion

[umbral reef]

So as they already do but with the same monitoring only now supported by Vrchat?
As if they are in an 18+ world they cant get banned for 18+ content i assume?

[wild raft]

Im calling out people who make the same debunked worthless often privacy invading arguments about how to deal with this. becouse they are scared by the mainstream medias coordinated attack on vrchats user base.

[vocal shard]

I think we should put 18+ content on vrchat allowed so that I- i mean the children can access the nsfw content

[noble depot]

VRChat already isn't liable, per TOS section 2 and 9.6 - it's not that they want kids on the platform, rather it's a fool's errand to keep them off
also, again, let's drop this convo, it's devolving into mudflinging

[coral birch]

I didn’t make those arguments though. You are assuming alot about me

[noble depot]

OSC, yo

[jovial kestrel]

I'll be formal about it this time.
Move on from this conversation. You two can settle it in DMs if you so choose.

[coral birch]

Gladly

[open crescent]

Atiash proceeds to send a notarized notification letter to these guys' physical mailbox

[noble depot]

pat the ati

[wild raft]

How about culling the debunked arguments that have been flooding this page for the last two days since the mainstream media made a hit piece on vrchat. becouse thats whats starting these fights.

[open crescent]

Oh boi

[final swallow]

Hi who could help me with vrchat? Please

[vocal shard]

That would make a lot of people angries

grer rgrr

[coral birch]

Is there a pat ati gif?

[open crescent]

#user-support-old

[noble depot]

#user-support-old, though there's other more specific help channels for avatars, Udon, etc

[earnest relic]

To my knowledge VRC only screens people 13+, essentially agreeing that all their content is suited for ages 13+, which anyone who's been in a handful of VRC worlds, can know that mileage varies heavily here.

But yes, essentially, give creators ability to tick their worlds, or even allow people to tick their INSTANCES, as 18+, and when you join the instance, you're required to tick a box saying "yo, I'm 18+" just like steam, or other adult websites on the Internet c:

[noble depot]

test did a nyoom

[final swallow]

Thanks

[jovial kestrel]

This argument has been done to death, and repeating things doesn't really seem to work. Sometimes you must just accept that other people believe other things, and getting angry at them isn't convincing.

[wild raft]

becouse it keeps coming back. People can beleive what they want. but why are they allowed to speak and im not allowed to speak back.

[jovial kestrel]

You two can completely have this discussion somewhere that isn't here, that's perfectly fine. I also stopped both sides, because of brewing hostility.

[open crescent]

You just scream "Stupid stupid!" And that's your argument

[coral birch]

If people are allowed to believe what they want then why do you keep attacking people for it

[umbral reef]

Would that not just make moderation a lot more difficult then for the team?
How will they confirm from a screenshot/video that a room is nsfw tagged or not?

[coral birch]

Ive told them i dont want to have this conversation anymore but they wont listen

[wild raft]

im not attacking shit. Im countering the commen arguments with logic
Payed acsess: bad idea becouse this platform has been open for a long time
Banning quest users: bad idea full stop
ID verification: VERY bad idea on any platform.

[noble depot]

you're both actively continuing the topic, stop

[open crescent]

[vocal shard]

go eat food or something

[wild raft]

you are actively antagonizing the situation you can shut up at any time if you don't want to answer the questions.

dont play victim here

[vocal shard]

0.0

[coral birch]

Last time i shut up you @ me to tell me to continue

[open crescent]

I already finished my popcorn

[vocal shard]

turn off your computers and phones

like just go outside

[wild raft]

After you threw insults my way and refused any points I made.

[jovial kestrel]

Welp, I tried.

[neat falcon]

go to fucking dms

no one here cares

[earnest relic]

I feel like it would more so make moderation easier, there's a level of accountability that is offloaded when a child lies about their age to enter a area. A mother can't sue pornhub cause their child logged in and agreed they were 18 and watched something inappropriate.

And even if there was more moderation needed, that's the price VRC must be willing to pay to keep minors safe on their platform if they are so adamant about keeping them.

[vocal shard]

the conclusion of this doesnt matter it wont amount to anything

[noble depot]

@earnest relic

[vocal shard]

vrc devs wont change for the forseenable future

[coral birch]

Can we talk about this little guy for a second 👉🎃

Look at them

[neat falcon]

pumkin

[coral birch]

Such a handsome man

[umbral reef]

Really sounds more like offloading the problem and moving it around then solving anything related to it IMO.

[umbral reef]

Big qtie that pumpkin

[earnest relic]

Yeah, you're offloading it onto the parents, if you leave your kid unsupervised on the Internet, expect that they're gonna look up and wind up on weird stuff.

Parents shouldn't let their kids explore vrc unsupervised 🔥 hot take

[umbral reef]

Isnt that the exact same thing that is already happening?

[vocal shard]

we can find the root problem

[umbral reef]

Like i really dont see a big difference beside that VRchat makes the statement that they are fine with it
What would be odd for them to do with there previous statements

[vocal shard]

how do we fix the problem of parents parenting

i want to make followup joke but its too extrs

[vast tulip]

Horizons is actually 18+ only and it’s still filled with kids, and that not only requires a facebook account, but they also record everything and they cant stop it

[wild raft]

not to mention the moderation being in world is only increasing hostile behaviors in horizons.

[quartz urchin]

It would be nice to have some patience when someone develops a game in really short time and is pressured to have it out in Early access, takes time to smoothen out problems and bugs that is causing issues for everyone, you can take a look at any other platform how much extra runtime they have had compared to the development cycle of CVR, it was to early for the mass player congestion to join and stay at that point of EA release.

[wild raft]

the context of this was this person attempting to use cvr to invalidate any points I made. Even if they wern't connected to the topic at hand. Im done with this arguement it goes nowhere.

[quartz urchin]

Ah, i was not meaning to pull the topic up again, i just wanted to state what you commented as a bit unfair

[wild raft]

in the context of the arguement it was 100% fair. the arguement made was cvr found out how to control its player base and restrict children. my response is becouse its a super small community vrchat is not

its not that easy here

[quartz urchin]

Well since the previous comment was removed your comment was possible to take out of context that it was meaning that CVR figured nothing out, which to me implies that there is no new development done or improvements since then.

anyways, we can end it here since it was taken out of context as previous context was removed

[twin fractal]

"cvr fixed nothing" as in cvr didn't find some magical solutions that VRC can just copy. The VRC team is in a very different situation. The CVR ""solution"" would not work.

[pine epoch]

It did have an idea I liked a lot.

[vocal shard]

What idea was it

[pine epoch]

But pretty much just the one thing, the line between the trackers and the bones they calibrate to.

[vocal shard]

Can you use more than 3 trackers in cvr

[pine epoch]

I wouldn't know, I only have 3 for now.

[vocal shard]

Sadge

hi

[vocal shard]

Do u know if player base any much bigger than it used to years ago?

omfg

what is it like to het a simple "hello"

[pine epoch]

Here? Yes. There? Dead as a doornail.

[vocal shard]

Not have "kitty" as your username and a pfp with a teenaged looking female in led colored lighrs

Look like the average PlayRoom Dating discord server troll

The impression is your personality is based off being an egirl

[vocal shard]

@vocal shard you read my mind

Ok?

[cursive crypt]

Are avatars loading super slow for anyone else?

[wraith cobalt]

i can't even load into vrc on my headset

[cursive crypt]

Ohh

[wraith cobalt]

it boots me to desktop mode

[ember tundra]

Did you click “run in vr mode”

[wraith cobalt]

yes, 7 times

make that 8 since i just tried it again and it still booted me into desktop mode

[languid musk]

is it normal to have some avatars load in completley white?

is it just something the avatars do in purpose or are the textures just not loading right on some avatars?

[meager solstice]

Weird

Do u have shaders shown?

Is it all models?

[languid musk]

No, only some

[meager solstice]

Maybe their shaders aren’t shown?

[languid musk]

That might be it

It tends to be tall anime avatars so maybe you're right

[meager solstice]

Idk why height would play a factor

I also don’t think it does

[languid musk]

Last time I saw that it was a goku avatar, would make sense for that type of character to have shaders on

But idk I'm very new to vrc

[meager solstice]

go into safety and see what ur settings r

Try turning shaders on

[languid musk]

ok ill tray that later today

[meager solstice]

Ok

[glass saffron]

just looking for chill people to play with dm me

[woeful elm]

If I miss a vrc+ sub, will I lose my early supporter badge?

[rancid jewel]

no

[restive blade]

hi

[woeful elm]

nicee

[woeful elm]

elloo

[restive blade]

im a barbie world in a barbie world

[woeful elm]

I beg your pardonnn????

[restive blade]

yeah

I'm a Barbie girl in the Barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic!

song is a FUCKING banger

[woeful elm]

[restive blade]

whats one of yorue favorite song??????

[woeful elm]

If we're talkin classics, Fireflies.

[upbeat plover]

The OSC seems pretty violent

[wooden zodiac]

Hello everyone

[restive tangle]

What's in the new update for vrchat, cause I'm very dumb lol

[oblique pond]

Check out #announcements

[signal thistle]

New update consists of breaking the quest version

[fresh moss]

i need help

[meager solstice]

#user-support-old

[gritty basin]

anyone wanna watch a movie on vr chat?

[velvet comet]

Anyone wanna chill soon on vrc? We could watch a movie or hop publics idc.

[plucky musk]

I’m good

[surreal bluff]

I don't know if this is the correct channel to ask this, but will the next beta be about Avatar Dynamics, or are we getting a smaller beta before that?

[open crescent]

We are getting it summer 2021 of course

But seriously they did say they were aiming for summer 2021 so there's no way of knowing if or when it'll ever come out

And now tupper is talking about 10 point tracking so that's probably coming first

[surreal bluff]

Just hoping for it to release someday, my avatar looks so wonky without the physics on quest

[merry radish]

@open crescent i think you are a Year Behind

[open crescent]

no that's what vrchat officially said

they said that, and then absolute silence up to now

so that's the only info we have

[little laurel]

Summer? Yes, it is still summer!

[umbral reef]

No one can tell you here for sure but with there last blog post it made it sound very likely

[surreal bluff]

Oh no... my troll idea, I think they're doing it

"We're releasing AD!"
"But physbones will be for later ;)"

[lilac swan]

Since VRchat has been teasing both on Twitter and in #announcements about the new full body tracking stuff then I think it's pretty safe to say that's next.

[surreal bluff]

Damnit

[open crescent]

?upload

[shy spoke]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[open crescent]

also why you spamming more than one channel with the same text

[late void]

Hahaha I wish that crap would get off my profile

[late void]

You could weight paint your hair to follow your armature, and your skirt to follow your legs if you know how and have the patience. It would look decent

If you have a skirt as an example

[surreal bluff]

I want to make clear that I have never ever heard of weight painting

[late void]

Damn

[surreal bluff]

[I am a programmer, not a modeller, sorry to dissapoint]

[vocal shard]

weightpaintjng is pain

you are fortunate

the only thing more painful is developing artistic skills

[surreal bluff]

the only thing More painful is working with unity

[merry radish]

Ohhh no he used the bad Words

[upbeat dew]

He spoke the truth!

[surreal bluff]

🍪

[merry radish]

well i would call it workin against Unity while it works against u

[surreal bluff]

Unity is like a dog with amneisa

[vocal shard]

yes

[surreal bluff]

It's all fun and games, until it suddenly bites you

[vocal shard]

and its american

[surreal bluff]

And it's blind

[merry radish]

i got already Biten once and lost a Entire World Project

[surreal bluff]

🤦‍♂️ Backups my fried

friend*

Always backup your worlds

[vocal shard]

always backup important stuff

[merry radish]

i had but that was a month old

[vocal shard]

they never learn until they lose it all

[surreal bluff]

I back up every 2 days

I fucking hate Unity, sometimes it just says "HAHAHAHAHAH NO!" and then your entire project just goes BDUEGHEUG

Goodbye materials and meshes, hello "Can't open project"

[merry radish]

i can't bc it take forever to Transfer my Unity Folder to my NAS

[surreal bluff]

then upgrade your bandwidth

I usually store my project on a small usb dongle

[merry radish]

i Running already a 1GBit connection but bc Millions of Tiny Files slows it down

Big Files are Flying trought the Connection But Tiny Files bring it to a Crawl

[surreal bluff]

Compress it

put it in a zip and boom, in one go

[merry radish]

hmm would save Space

[surreal bluff]

would save space, easier to send over your NAS, should be good

or even .rar with keys, if you want it to be secure

[merry radish]

naa i use Ultra Compression 7.zip as Tiny as possible

and when my Drive Cloning is Done and replaced the Drive i have the Storage for it.

[surreal bluff]

You do you, if it works it works

[merry radish]

i only work with that bc if i work with friend they usally have a Slow as Fu** connection usally i can Fill their connection multiple Times with my Upload speed

even VRC Seems to Struggle with keeping up when i upload Avatars

[surreal bluff]

Destroy the servers of vrc

[bleak zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/erenyeager-aot-attackontitan-eren-seriously-gif-24960107

Do it

[surreal bluff]

I can't lol

I'm not a cringe unbased hacker

[oblique pond]

[surreal bluff]

fire

[oblique pond]

[vocal shard]

BURNNNN

[surreal bluff]

WHAHAHAHA

[idle oyster]

Sup

[vocal shard]

Does anyonw know how to fix driver4vr not wanting to work? It shows the icon but I can't click on it even though it says its open but nothing pops up, not even a black screen . Just stays in the bottom. And please @ me when answering this question

[vocal shard]

If you are using it for FBT purposes, I would recommend switching to KinectToVR. It works good usually.

If you are using a Kinect for it.

[vocal shard]

I hate it bx it thinks my legs are to the side

So

Driver is my go to

That is strange since it works fine for me.

Have you toggled the skeleton to see if it is tracking properly?

And made sure that the Kinect can actually see you?

Yes

[vocal shard]

Imagine your on Google right, but you don't have it open, and then you click it and nothing pops up but it still shows that I opened it even though it doesn't pop up. Thats what's happening. And then when I try to uninstall it and stuff errors pop up

I was referring to KinectToVR with my comments. I think you should give it another shot.

But that is weird with Driver. So it will not let you uninstall it?

[vocal shard]

Not rly no, at least not completely bc when it does and I reinstall it, it doesn't say exe

[wild raft]

is the kinect actualy a good option for tracking i see people talking about it sometimes

[noble depot]

It can be, though you shouldn't use the XB1 Kinect if you have lighthouses, as it'll cause interference

[umbral reef]

Its better then nothing but worse then all other options

[noble depot]

well no

MediaPipe is jankier lol

[rancid jewel]

phone camera full body:

[noble depot]

2004 phone camera FBT:

[lethal glacier]

Anyone wanna play vrc w me

[wild raft]

:p got my vive trackers just been watching caddicrus videos on horrible kenict games so it got me remembering that its used for tracking sometimes.

[vocal shard]

do you use a kinect One or kinect 360

i have bad experience with Kinect One

[vocal shard]

The Xbox One Kinect is an awful investment if you intend to try anything with FBT.

The Xbox 360 Kinect is what I have used.

i hear so many mixed message abt which is better for fbt

why is the older var better anyway that makes no sense

[vocal shard]

It is a lot better nowadays than it once was. Set up properly, it can do basic FBT with low latency.

[vocal shard]

https://k2vr.tech/docs/why-avoid-kinectv2.html

thx

In summary:
-More expensive.
-Conflicts with other devices.
-Requires USB 3.0 which has a history of being finicky.

maybe its my ASUS laptop motherboard being weird idk

also i never use basestations or trackers with kinect because i dont have them so

i dont know why calibrating with the kinect one is such a pain using Kinect2vr

maybe its better now its been months

[twin fractal]

360 is objectively better for tracking

[vocal shard]

does it have a different tracking method than the One shooting infared light to see deprh

[wild raft]

cools

[lethal glacier]

Hello

[vocal shard]

Why are there so much 5 year old kids in VRChat?

[open crescent]

bad parenting

[vocal shard]

Truth

[ember tundra]

Its my turn on the VR - 5 year olds

[vocal shard]

If there were a server out there for calling them out, I’d totes join their ranks

Eat your heart out,LPD

[vocal shard]

I played with the settings when making my self a new account and you could have your own account in VRChat with only 5 years old

[vocal shard]

Is not just that

VRchat allows 5 year old kids to play

[ember tundra]

They cant do much from your settings