vrchat-general-2

[twilit moon]

Mmmmmmmmmm

[noble depot]

could try looking into a mirror and touching your avatar's face to see if that triggers it?

It definitely isn't o:

[twilit moon]

Okay

Mmmmmmmm

😐

[late forum]

Video players in-game no longer function for me. Anyone else experiencing this issue or have a fix?

[noble depot]

🤷 just speaking from my own experience on it lmao, mirrors may help to trigger it

[twilit moon]

😎

That cool

[noble depot]

a VR headset is a "2d monitor" - still though, it's a mental phenomenon and VR isn't a prerequisite

[low idol]

Does anyone here have any favorite avatar worlds

[noble depot]

imo it's very similar to the rubber hand experiment/body transfer illusion

[woven phoenix]

Nice pfp

[ember pollen]

does anyone here know about the Galactic Empire roleplay group?

hm?

[short wasp]

one thing i’ve noticed in vr that’s a fascinating thing... phantom touch.

[noble depot]

working on it right now in #open-beta-info o:

[vocal shard]

Kon and Chill.

[noble depot]

never claimed I was lol, just saying that an update is actively being worked on

the devs, in #open-beta-info and #open-beta-announcements

[ember pollen]

I've been looking for the group for a bit, the invite link in their worlds are expired

[vocal shard]

I wonder if Jacked is how I looked when I had trouble with Unity before I left this Discord all that time ago.

Imagine being you and being a prick towards people wanting to help your unappreciative self.

Funny how you assume I am. I do not flaunt that though.

And you are so educated you cannot converse to people like a normal human being.

[noble depot]

If you want people to help you, insulting people, breaking rule 2 and arguing isn't going to help your case
edit for future: user's comments were removed

[vocal shard]

Get off your high horse you trolling prick.

Oh really? Who was the one that started calling people dumb because they could not help you who is having problems?

Anyway, how is everyone? Find anything interesting in VRChat recently?

[zealous hill]

Hello All My name is Nari i have a Question any one speak German ?

[vocal shard]

I do not speak German, but maybe I can help, if you want to try asking.

Unless the question is "does anyone speak German?"

[zealous hill]

k why i cnt send or Build avatar in unity VR ?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574240572177514542/831619698666766406/Unity_VRC.jpg

[vocal shard]

You have to be new user or higher before you can upload content.

Which means you will have to play the game more, making friends and exploring. You can also by VRC+ to automatically get to that rank or higher.

[zealous hill]

I've been playing about 10 hours for a while and I also have friends: D How long do you have to play it?

[vocal shard]

There is no set in stone amount of things you have to do.

[noble depot]

It's not only based on time - friends, worlds visited, avatars/worlds uploaded (if the account has permission) and active hours and etc all help, along with not getting kicked/banned/muted/reported, etc

It's completely different for everyone, but I'd hazard a guess and say 10-50 hours with a decent amount of friends'd sound right to go from Visitor to New User o:

[ember epoch]

are their support groups that could look at my avatar for me and figure out why it dont move lol and is stuck in tpose

even tho it has skeleton

[noble depot]

#avatar-rigging for the rig, and either #avatars-2-general for SDK2, or #avatar-help for SDK3 c:

[ember epoch]

tyvm

[cobalt kernel]

Dude why allow avatar cloning is ON by default? What kind of psycopath dev team is that ffs

[vocal shard]

Avatar cloning only affects public avatars through. Private avatars can't be cloned, and when you make your own avatar they're set to private by default

Because unless you have a specific reason to turn it off, why would it default to off?

[tribal gust]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 28270 users in VRChat currently

[cobalt kernel]

Dude thanks for the aclaration

So it was the client fault

[naive badge]

I’m new to vr chat-

[cobalt kernel]

But if i upload on private ppl will still be able to see it right

[rancid jewel]

welcome! don't forget you're here forever.

any attempt to escape THE CAT is invalid.

i will now show you THE CAT

[naive badge]

lol

[rancid jewel]

that is the cat.

please pet the cat

[noble depot]

Other people can see a private avatar, they just can't clone it through the ingame cloning menu o:

[vocal shard]

my 9 year old brother plays vrchat 🙄 🤚

[cobalt pendant]

is there a support chat channel for VRChat issues?

I logged in today and all of my uploaded avatars were missing, as if someone deleted them. Should I be worried that someone hijacked my account? Or is this a known issue?

[quiet stag]

Sup homies

[cobalt pendant]

also I get this error if I try to upload avatar again https://i.imgur.com/s8far13.png

[vocal shard]

you can get him banned for being underage that would be funny lol

[thin totem]

I wanna cat bomb...

Maybe one

[limber warren]

updating my avatar, let's see what I did wrong this time because I can never do it right the first time

[vocal shard]

there will be a green light on the side that shows instead of it being orange unless thats just 90%

[limber warren]

I actually did something right on the first try for once

[vocal shard]

you want a cookie?

[late void]

Has anyone had a bug where their mic gets a lot quieter when they launch vrchat and then nobody can hear them talk unless they like literally scream because the mic in vrchat is not picking it up, and yet they can see their mouth moving locally just fine. Very specific bug I know but does anyone know anything?

[stable ingot]

How does a video player work on VRChat?

[steady tree]

You grab a link from youtube as in copy it, then paste it into the bar using an actual keyboard.

[stable ingot]

I try that with the Loft Apartments player and the player at MEROOM, but they don't show me the video I put in there. 😦

[steady tree]

uhm interesting idk then, sorry

[brazen mica]

does anyone know where i can find a guts from berserk/black swordsman avatar?

[buoyant lodge]

Seen a few people recently mention video players not working properly so perhaps that. I had to manually download the youtube-dl.exe file the other day since the client failed to update it for some reason so that might be happening to others as well

[vocal shard]

@steep depot

[vocal shard]

yeah but he didn't get banned-

you already tried yourself?

your going to have video evidence or something else conclusive

there is no ingame report for underage unless they just added it the other day

[drowsy pumice]

I got a kid banned once

Unless they just randomly quit

[vocal shard]

#user-support-old

[ocean walrus]

hey i have a question for anyone with the same problem is anyone else s game taking ages too join someone ?

[vocal shard]

is the joining world progress bar stuck at 100% or 0%

[onyx laurel]

Loading taking longer than usual.

[vocal shard]

yeah

people are not even reporting him 😀

well if he isnt a headass like most other kids then good for him

[unreal verge]

Still not a game for a 9 year old

[open aspen]

why did the dev team remove the ability to view public avatars of other users in their API? it was the only way i could find some avatars.

[unreal verge]

Probably ripping

As that also provided the download link of the files to the avatars

[open aspen]

oh.

[hearty siren]

where is the voice chat?

[left pewter]

Das VRChat Unity support 2019.3.0?

[unreal verge]

No

[left pewter]

hayaaaaa

so now i need to know how to Refund something on the AssetStore

[vocal shard]

only 2018.4.20f sorry

or assets with versions below

[left pewter]

i know

there is something very good called Gaia 2 - Terrain & Scene Generator

but i can't use it

nice 😄

[open aspen]

i’m so angry that i deleted my vrchat tracker avatar list because i thought the app was broken.

[vocal shard]

excel spreadsheets >

[vocal shard]

thats an oldie i saw that on the store a while back.. the best you can do is downgrade or upgrade depending on what it runs with start a new scene and load it up from there.. thats what i have done on a few projects..

Sometimes.. depending on what it is.. you can export to an older version or visa versa..

[left pewter]

it just create terrain

[vocal shard]

So create your scene with it then export scene over, so yes terrain will work beautifully.

[left pewter]

i can have 2 unitys installed maybe

[vocal shard]

Well.. i have 2018.4 and 2019.4 and 2021 currently..

[unreal verge]

You can have infinite unitys installed if they're different versions

[vocal shard]

always use multiple for different reasons..

[left pewter]

can i select that when i create a project?

[unreal verge]

I only use 2 unity versions. One from 2019 and 2018

[left pewter]

or do i need to install a new Unity?

[unreal verge]

I recommend using unity hub

[vocal shard]

Of course.. unity hub allows you to switch between.. if for example the asset requires 2019.4 to run.. just open 2019.4 and use it.. then export and yes unity hub all the way.

[open aspen]

i hate playing this on the quest.

[left pewter]

ok thx

[left pewter]

Can i be in contact with you for when i need to export the seen i don't know how to do that

[vocal shard]

I tried Unity Hub, did not even have an option for the version VRChat requires.

you have to install it a certain way to unity hub I forgot how

I have vrchats version and cvrs unity version both in unity hub

And yes you can and already doing so 🙂

Good thing is I have no interest in burning myself again with Unity's unrelenting flames.

i just look at myself and make faces in the mirror on vrchat 👨‍🦲

[thorny plume]

https://time.is/UTC+1

👀

[noble depot]

one hour o:

[rancid jewel]

dev stream in 48 minutes

[thorny plume]

just pointing out that the timezone is wrong

[rancid jewel]

le poggere

[thorny plume]

or rather it should be 2am UTC+1

[lucid rock]

Vrchat direct!

[dire wharf]

Was gonna say, rushed home from work hoping i wouldnt miss the first 15mins 😂

Should be 2am not 1 haha

[little forge]

can someone play vr with me

[covert chasm]

the +1 is supposed to be a superscript, and therefore refer to the next day

as in, its 1AM on the next day

but.. .well

it wasn't posted that way, so

sorry eurofriends

timezones are dumb

[rancid jewel]

dev stream hype

[noble depot]

if we cover the earth in sun, timezones won't be a problem

breathing fusing helium might be but pfft

[late void]

Quest was a mistake

[rancid jewel]

https://www.twitch.tv/vrchat

[late void]

I genuinely feel bad for every person that buys one

[rancid jewel]

dev stream

[honest forge]

thats a... statement

[spark wraith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/703237027365126175/831692507398012939/untitled-bingo.png

[rancid jewel]

yay they announced it

[gleaming kraken]

bait detected

[rancid jewel]

so many people are coming onto the stream

[late void]

I'm not baiting I'm just venting. I want people to be able to afford a better vr and be knowledgeable about what exactly they're buying

[sinful cairn]

Quest would be a solid device if it wasn't married to facebook's ecosystem.

[late void]

Everyone I know who buys a quest bought it because they didn't know better and then they get sad at it's limitations

[unreal verge]

Not everyone has 1k laying around

[late void]

It's basically deceptive

[late void]

Oculus rift is not 1k buddy

[vocal shard]

who down to help me raid my own server

[unreal verge]

I can't use Rift

[late void]

Ok that's a you problem

[vocal shard]

dm if so

[unreal verge]

I'm physically limited to Quest and Index

[honest forge]

quest is technically unlimited if you have a pc, because you can do essentially more than than what the htc cosmos can offer (but facebook)

[late void]

I have original vive

[gleaming kraken]

alot of my quest friends bought it because it was genuinely their best option and were very aware of what they were getting into, they couldnt afford vr ready pc's. sure the quest isnt their favorite but it was their only entry way

[digital citrus]

there gonna be stream highlights lool

[rancid jewel]

i'm gonna record the entire dev stream

[honest forge]

you can play wirelessly

[late void]

Interesting. Everyone I've talked to said the exact opposite

[unreal verge]

No headset supports my IPD range except Quest and Index

[fierce panther]

Anyone have friend request issues?

[late void]

Really big or really small?

[unreal verge]

Small

[late void]

Doubt

[unreal verge]

I've 57,5

[honest forge]

blind

[late void]

I bet I have a way smaller head than you. I'm a smol female

And yeah I use the lowest setting

But I still use vive

[unreal verge]

Rift S is locked to 64 so can't use that

[late void]

Ahhh I aee

Yeah vive goes to to like 62.5 I think?

[unreal verge]

Quest goes to 58

[late void]

In all honesty I would like it just a tad smaller... But Its fine I don't notice it

[late void]

Yeah cuz it's for kids

I think you'd be fine on vive if I am

[unreal verge]

Index goes also around 58

[late void]

Oh really?

I'll keep that in mind ooooh

That would be better for me

[rare night]

[late void]

I have been meaning to upgrade. I've had my OG vive since the end of 2017

[rancid jewel]

excellent start, no audio

[vocal shard]

anyone wanna chill in vr and cuddle

[late void]

Mmmm vrchat standards tho wym @rancid jewel

[unreal verge]

Unfortunately i need a better pc before i can actually use anything else than Quest

[rancid jewel]

there you go

[heavy drift]

audio bugg on stream

[late void]

Damn oof

[vocal shard]

yo dm me we bout to raid this one server rq

[unreal verge]

To buy an index i need a time of saving up of around 3-5 years

[rancid jewel]

moment

[vocal shard]

-_---

[rancid jewel]

don't dm advertise to me either, fam.

[unreal verge]

That estimated time includes buying an VR capable pc

[thin yacht]

?

[rancid jewel]

they said "more dev streams" yoo

[unreal verge]

That guy just got a place on my block list since he thought DM advertising is a good idea

[rancid jewel]

lol

[unreal verge]

At least i can play VR

[late void]

I have dms off for that reason

[unreal verge]

At some point I'll upgrade to index then

[late void]

People always be sending me ads and spam

In big servers

[rancid jewel]

i don't get dm advertisements often

but at the same time i turn dms off in bigger servers

[unreal verge]

I disable DMs from certain servers where it happens a lot

Like Discord Testers

[rancid jewel]

talks once in a big server
instantly gets 4 dm advertisements

[thin yacht]

Hm, doesn't sound like anyone I know 🙂

[unreal verge]

I'm higher listed than 90% of people there so that is a reason people find me more easily

[rancid jewel]

i like how ron just kinda walked off stage

[vocal shard]

yurdd

[unreal verge]

Imagine one suddenly crashes lol

[vocal shard]

imagine talking in the twitch chat and not the discord

[rancid jewel]

wouldnt it be funny if like
"alright so our next feature is..." crashes and stream ends

[unreal verge]

I've Twitch as overlay on Discord currently so i don't see Twitch chat

[rancid jewel]

vrchat+ on oculus pog

GIFTING??

[unreal verge]

Makes sense there

[rancid jewel]

there's system

[unreal verge]

VRC+ makes more sense on Quest

Than on pc

[rancid jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/693931930646872178/831697309376839700/unknown.png

[unreal verge]

System is really into his role

Everything fits

[rancid jewel]

i liked how he just kinda sneaked into the scene

[vocal shard]

good explanations on the server tho

[rancid jewel]

i like how there's just random mic cutouts but yeah that too

[gleaming kraken]

#vrchat-general-1 is just making me sad ngl

[rancid jewel]

its public lobby what do you expect

[gleaming kraken]

why do people hope for the worst.. i dont get it

[unreal verge]

Random windows notification

[gleaming kraken]

yeah

[vocal shard]

yeah I thought that was me lol

[unreal verge]

Wonder how many are getting confused

[rancid jewel]

holy shit yeah i thought that was me too

windows 10 notification go brr

[rancid flame]

ive been wondering about if they plan to implement more trackers, eye tracking, mouth tracking, etc. but based on the canny i assume no

[unreal verge]

Watch stream

They talk currently

[rancid flame]

i am

[unreal verge]

That Server room picture

[rancid jewel]

sick api team

"that is our actual server room" yoo so system's a funny tv man IRL

"i'm suffering, personally." - system, 2021

[gleaming kraken]

countdown to someone making a crab system avatar

[rancid jewel]

someone's angrily opening unity rn

[late void]

As someone who does commissions for a living please no

[rancid flame]

its gonna have to happen one day

[rancid jewel]

i like the random fuckin wwe video of someone getting slammed in the corner

[late void]

No?

[late void]

It doesn't

[muted wharf]

yes

[rancid jewel]

is system okay?

[rancid flame]

eventually hmds will all have eye and face tracking and people will want avatars that support them

[rancid jewel]

anyone been giving him plenty of hugs?

[late void]

And vrchat will be like nah

[muted wharf]

it's okay, we have alcohol

[late void]

Also that's like 10 years away where it's likely they'd all have it

[gleaming kraken]

good luck getting practically anyone to support that, eye tracking will be easier but facial tracking? highly doubtful.

[rancid jewel]

go give system a big hug
he needs it

[rancid flame]

neos has had support forever and more would once its more available to consumers

[late void]

Neos isn't vrchat tho

[gleaming kraken]

as a creator, who has a large list of creator friends. i seriously doubt that many creators would support it

[late void]

Vrchat doesn't do anything lol

[rancid flame]

true lmao

[late void]

Thumbs up react

[twin fractal]

why the hell did they remove reacts man

[rancid jewel]

"i want it dead." - tupper, 2021.

[gleaming kraken]

people abused them

[vale osprey]

Hey curious bout something does anyone here use the app VRCTracker?

[twin fractal]

yes

[rancid flame]

i dont see why vrc cant just add the feature so avatars that are supported can use it

[gleaming kraken]

blegh. hate that with all the atoms in my body.

[thin yacht]

Probably too many eggplants and peaches

[vale osprey]

Really why?

[twin fractal]

I've used it for two years

[late void]

Extra cost, time consuming, priorities

[odd elk]

do yall know if there is a way to calibrate full-body tracking with only one controller?

[vale osprey]

Can you access public avatars anymore? its not working for me

[late void]

Nope

[rancid flame]

im sure the devs have enough resources to add it of studios with less than 5 people can add support

[gleaming kraken]

any tool that lets people do more than what the devs originally intended. especially the ability to get my avatars without going into my worlds...

[late void]

No, all API tools are no longer working yay 😊

[twin fractal]

You can only access public avatars from friends now.

[vale osprey]

fuck no way

[nova tendon]

that sucks

[rancid jewel]

if they talk about ui im gonna actually implode

[late void]

LOL

[rancid jewel]

"blue diamond man" - tupper

[vale osprey]

Well i mean i find it really useful to back up my avatars that i wish to have and to be able to switch on the fly is super helpful and i love it a lot im sure a lot of other people appreciate it as well

[gleaming kraken]

gumby bug.. never seen that one but now im curious

[fierce rose]

I am still not understanding what this entire negotiation between VRChat Team and the modding community is.
Is this some process of a possible change to the Terms of Service where some modifications could be allowed/authorized/licensed/immunized?

[vale osprey]

are they gonna get fixed some time ever?

[late void]

I actually loved that people could get my avatars without having to go back to my world. Makes them more likely to use them

[gleaming kraken]

i would be surprised if they dont discuss it in the stream.

[rich ravine]

Who know a vr server to talk about vr

[twin fractal]

it's a good app. lets you do a bunch without breaching ToS. also I can check my friend's list quickly and shit

[rancid flame]

glad you added to the convo to explain why the team cant add features significantly smaller teams have already added

[rancid jewel]

NEW UI

[gleaming kraken]

here we go!

[fallow yacht]

Whoever asked about UI, there you go

[fierce rose]

What is the likelihood? Let's make some noise and speak up for the freedom!

[late void]

Ok my expanded answer is LOL you really think they're going to add that feature considering how amazingly they've managed to impliment anything and fix bugs

[vale osprey]

wait is this shit live rn or nah whatever they are changing and adding

[late void]

But I thought that was obvious so I just said lol

[hard burrow]

twitch.tv/vrchat

[rancid flame]

gotta agree with that

[rancid jewel]

perfect timing implodes

[muted wharf]

new ui? get the bingo cards marked.

[hard burrow]

OOOOOH

[vale osprey]

@twin fractal you think we will be able to look at public avatars again?

[unreal verge]

That's wrong

[gleaming kraken]

is that changed up from when we last saw it?

[rancid jewel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795205185152090123/831702251390763028/unknown.png?width=730&height=683
it looks so gooooodddd

[hard burrow]

It looks so much better already.

[rancid flame]

when it seems like every feature they add is worse than the one it replaces i see why now

[tropic crater]

There are legit reasons not to be fast on feature implementation but from what I’ve gathered none of them apply to vrc

[late void]

XD

[unreal verge]

I actually use api tools a lot

[twin fractal]

honestly I don't think so. but I hope for it

[rancid jewel]

it looks so cool!!

[late void]

You sure they're still working?

[vale osprey]

fuck man thats so depressing

[unreal verge]

Yes used them a hour ago

[twin fractal]

I literally use vrcx daily lmao

[vale osprey]

do you know if we can still use the avatars we have backed up?

[rancid jewel]

im gonna hyperventilate

[late void]

Mm. Yeah that's vrchat for you. I'm Hoping they add an avatar search feature in game. PLEASE

[vale osprey]

yeah i use vrctracker daily too

[unreal verge]

Me VRCX, it's better than the Android equivalent

[late void]

Wtf the one I use just gives me an error

[twin fractal]

VRCX is very good. especially the in game overlay

[rancid jewel]

they mentioned a video yo yo yo

[unreal verge]

VRCX always runs in background if my pc is turned on

[late void]

Maybe it's time to use vrcx....

[twin fractal]

especially the friends status and room join/leave updates

[vale osprey]

im quest 2 soooo that apps all i got

[rancid jewel]

on screen mic icon

[late void]

Ah yes. New UI that's what we need

Glad all that vrchat+ money is fixing the game. Now it just LOOOKS more fixed

To be fair idk what else they have planned

[gleaming kraken]

were you listening at all during the server section?

[tropic crater]

Lmao

[waxen meadow]

the new ui is amazing

[late void]

No

[rancid flame]

be thankful its just a new ui and them not transitioning to analog ik from networked ik because the nintedo virtual boy vrc version lags too much

[late void]

Kinda idk they talked about how it's running so much better but the servers been poop the past idk everyday so

[gleaming kraken]

yeah. figured. they literally said that money went to hiring people for the server side of stuff especially.

[twin fractal]

yo UI looks fucking sick

[late void]

Ah yeah but we need UI updates over fixing the game still @gleaming kraken

[gleaming kraken]

they... literally said they were?

[late void]

They always say they are xD but when do they actually tho??

[tropic crater]

There is the hope that UI changes also change other things in the background but honestly I got very little hope

[late void]

Ok I'm out

[vale osprey]

im really depressed bout the avatar thing

[gleaming kraken]

have you checked the open beta thats been going recently at all?

they are working hard as hecc to squash the audio bug. and are doing pretty good from what i hear.

[late void]

Yeah if you CAN hear anything 🤣

🥁

[twin fractal]

did the latest beta fix it properly

[tropic crater]

One bug out of how many on the client tho

[rancid jewel]

menu skins

[twin fractal]

its the biggest bug in the game imo

[tropic crater]

Probably why it’s a high enough priority to be worked on atm

[vocal shard]

A world specific tab in the ui is genius

[twin fractal]

like yeah there's other bugs but nothing nearly as disruptive

[vale osprey]

@twin fractal imagine if you could look at players public avatars from in game that would be amazing

[tropic crater]

I don’t think that’s an adequate reason with the current state of the game but yeah

I fully understand how painful voice chat in games can be to handle

[rancid jewel]

each copy of the vrchat ui is personalized

[honest forge]

@late void dang you gon quote my audio bug world like that

[dry wren]

No one saw that there is no calibrate button anymore anywhere? So, no calibration for FBT users?

[late void]

??? Wht

[unreal verge]

Maybe didn't had fbt

[twin fractal]

actually the old menu is a super laggy mess, I'm hopeful this will actually be optimized and not like the 2017 build we've been stuck with up until now

[vocal shard]

there is still much to go over

[rancid jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/693931930646872178/831705577175777321/unknown.png

[tropic crater]

Not if it’s optimised

[late void]

This. There's some really messed up people in this game, and even with actual evidence submitted I heard they don't do anything

[gleaming kraken]

from what info?

[rancid jewel]

i like technobabels pfp

[honest forge]

UI with panels makes it lag. it seems like instead of 12-500 panels. its just 7 😮

[tropic crater]

It really depends how they handle it

[gleaming kraken]

first hand experience? from a menu thats not out yet?

[late void]

And knowing vrchat how do you think they're gonna handle it

[tropic crater]

Hopefully better than they did in 2017

[rancid jewel]

yo UserName is my favorite friend too

[late void]

Good

[vale osprey]

thats depressing

[late void]

Get rid of all the kids

[honest forge]

quest can be optimized alot

[wet oriole]

I play quest and I barely lag..

[unreal verge]

I'm connected to pc with my Quest anyways

[late void]

Key word. Can. But won't be

[vale osprey]

im quest 2 and ive seen some real good impressive things even with quests limits

[wet oriole]

Most of the time it's as smooth as butter

[honest forge]

however. id like to not make a unity script that literally removes users reported as kids

[vale osprey]

i barely lag too but i wouldnt know compared to other VR headsets

[late void]

Yep

[unreal verge]

I'm happy to have a Quest, otherwise VR would be locked away from me for several more years

[honest forge]

people who dont optimize a map for android will not work on quest

[wet oriole]

Record and send it to them.

[late void]

My friends have done that. They don't do anything

[wet oriole]

Weird

[shell grove]

These new world features are awesome tho

[rancid jewel]

my friend just dm'd be "why does ron sound like gaben"

[vale osprey]

yeah me and many other people have reported this one guy who consistently harassed multiple people in the group im in and nothings happened ever at all

[late void]

The game is basically unmoderated. Unless there's a tiddy avatar. Then REAL SHIT????

[shell grove]

Avatar stuff 👀

[vale osprey]

oh fuck a furry

[shell grove]

Yep chat is over

[twin fractal]

Tupper please delete kids

[late void]

Pls

[vale osprey]

btw @twin fractal you think backing up avatars is still fine right it works right?

[wet oriole]

Pretty hard to do, unless people can show proof of age or idenity which some people won't like

[late void]

Second life is doing it

[gleaming kraken]

oh here we go...

[wet oriole]

Kids will always find a way to sneak on things or make fake facebooks

[rancid jewel]

bonk

[late void]

If you try to change your age on second life they literally ask for ID

[noble depot]

don't have a twitch chat but heck, in-house dynamic bones what o:

[rancid jewel]

are you just gonna ignore the 20 minutes of new ui
thats some crazy shit

[late void]

Nobody cares about the new ui

[noble depot]

the new UI is heckin' fantastic too lmao

[rancid jewel]

i care about the new ui

[noble depot]

quick menu's cool, will def be cool to see the rest of the main menu

[twin fractal]

seems to work for me

[rancid jewel]

i wonder what the BIG MENU ™️ will look like

[late void]

Dude they're too busy deleting the titty avatars and funny memey bois

[wet oriole]

It's more of, theres an amount of people who enjoy the internet at least on some aspects for the 'anonymous' thing even if those apps collect data. Forcing for an Id, and data to make an account would probably be hated against.

[shell grove]

"Nobody asked for any of this"

Bruh people have been requesting colliders like this for FOREVER, this is an amazing feature

[late void]

Second life is doing just fine

[tropic crater]

Someone mentioned backing up avatars and that’s already a thing

[vale osprey]

sometimes they even delete avatars that are completely fine

[rancid jewel]

bonked

[late void]

Also second life only asks for ID If you try to change it or something

[tropic crater]

It’s just not easily accessible

[wet oriole]

I said you need an id to make an account or play in general

[rancid jewel]

stop hitting ron you meanie

[twin fractal]

that's actually fucking cool

[shell grove]

Backwards compat with SDK2 as well

[late void]

Ahhh ok

[vale osprey]

whatcha mean? The one im refering to is VRCTracker backing up avatars

[tropic crater]

backing up in what way? saving a .unitypackage of your avatar?

[lucid sandal]

lul

[wet oriole]

I read so much stuff how people were furious they needed a facebook account for the Quest 2. Because it's adding to the stealing of data, recording and its stupid

[late void]

Children bring in the money of course because they're like half the player base at this point

[rancid jewel]

physics bones pogg

[vale osprey]

nah so VRCTracker is an app and you can literally just favorite and unfavorite avatars you have from the app on the go and back them up right there on your phone

[noble depot]

it'll also be nice to have a dynamic/jiggle bone system that's actually multithreaded lol, will likely see some good CPU usage improvements from that alone

[late void]

Mommy's vrc+ money

[shell grove]

If Quest kids bring in the player numbers to justify adding amazing features like this, then fuck it I ain't complaining lol

[twin fractal]

fucking finally

[wet oriole]

I think it's hard to get proof on a minors age (13+) anyways. Kids don't usually have their birth certificate on hand

[tropic crater]

oh okay i see

[late void]

But the kids under 13 they're literally against tos I think

[vocal shard]

Quest vrc+ coming soon so profit $$$ and I dont blame em I support it

[rancid jewel]

quest vrc+

mahneee

[desert aspen]

I was hesitant to buy mine just because of this but I've gotten over it after having it 24 hours. I don't use the account anyway and since it's a few years old the only info I put in was my first name

[shell grove]

Yeah but something like that is difficult to moderate

[opaque verge]

Genaral

[late void]

Youtube tried to do it xD

[wet oriole]

You can't really know for sure who someone is, a kid can claim to be 13 who knows

[rancid jewel]

physics bones go brr

[wet oriole]

Im not going out of my way to find out if a kid is 11 or 14

[late void]

Godd I wish

[noble depot]

quest DBs o:

[shell grove]

Deadass can I license this collider stuff for my own project

[rancid jewel]

physics bones on quest :DD

[late void]

Let's face it. This game got way bigger than it was ever supposed to be, they've never been able to handle that and they never will be. End chat

[vale osprey]

fuck yeah physic bones on quest boutta actually see stuff move now instead of stiff shit

[vocal shard]

oh yeah that probably opens up physics on quest it being much more optimized

[rancid jewel]

multicore physics bones!

[tropic crater]

this x100

[vale osprey]

honestly yall think VRChat gonna die someday?

[tropic crater]

no it's too large

[shell grove]

God I'm known for criticizing VRchat a lot, but ya'll are impressively negative lol. These are cool features

[rancid jewel]

yes, but it won't be for a very long time.

[wet oriole]

Im surprised people still play when they talk about it this badly

[rancid jewel]

NEW UI

[median stag]

every game eventually dies out in terms of playerbase, hello?

[tropic crater]

it'll probably die eventually but i don't think it will die because of another platform

[twin fractal]

every other VRC server I'm in is busting a nut rn

[late void]

I only play because it's the only way I can see and hug my friends. I really dislike vrchat when it comes down to it😭 I also make money on comissions so I can't just leave

[vocal shard]

this always confuses me

[vale osprey]

i mean this is real big honestly

[shell grove]

These colliders are insane

[vale osprey]

would colliders be on quest too?

[versed wolf]

.

[shell grove]

I don't know how I feel about automatically converting dynamic bones over to physics bones.

[rancid jewel]

finally hair isnt stiff

[shell grove]

Physics bones definitely seem better but I don't imagine they'll function exactly the same

[wet oriole]

I hate this so much, lets do it again

[vale osprey]

you quest too?

[fair wind]

are there rules regarding streaming?

[vale osprey]

i mean gotta work with change yo

[wet oriole]

Don't get caught doing anything against the rules

[twin fractal]

there are restrictions in the TOS

[wet oriole]

Some people stream themselves breaking tos and are like what

[true beacon]

hello cuties 🙂

[shell grove]

Fear

[wet oriole]

The one thing I like about the kids in the game, is I can Slaughter them all in murder 4

[fresh tiger]

Remove the furry

[rancid jewel]

gonna make an avatar that literally explodes when you touch it

[wet oriole]

I feel like all the 18+ worlds are going to be filled with erping and whores.

[vocal shard]

"exploring other types of body parts as well" that can be taken out of context

[tropic crater]

kids can do some hilariously dumb shit and it's one of the only things redeemable about them in a game like vrc

[ember phoenix]

lmao

[shell grove]

I could see 18+ instances working

[fair wind]

im talking about public worlds. am i alowed to stream despite not everyone agreeing.

[wet oriole]

Not in public lobbys usually

[rancid jewel]

i go to #vrchat-general-1 and the first thing i read is, and i quote:

go McBurn in hell

[vale osprey]

already are ive been to many and seen lots of shit XD

[shell grove]

But again, it's hard to moderate and enforce stuff like that

[wet oriole]

If there is 18+ only, I guarantee there will be stuff going down

[noble depot]

avatar>world interactions are heckin' cool
that holds a ton of potential o:

[wet oriole]

Fun and games > horny time

[rancid jewel]

alright gonna throw stuff at people and hear the bonk sound play

[twin fractal]

there already is tbh lol

[wet oriole]

I already know, but I rather not be surrounded drowning in it

[fair wind]

i don't want to break the rules. how do you suggest i find people to colab with?

[vale osprey]

theres a lot of NSFW avatars and I know a lot of people who exclusively use NSFW avatars

[wet oriole]

They don't exist ⭐

[tropic crater]

doing 18+ only stuff can quickly spiral in to a poor pr

[vale osprey]

yall know bout Asher XD

[rancid jewel]

stream froze lol

[wet oriole]

If you could do it, have fun

[vale osprey]

@wet oriole actually that makes me think my first legit actual VRChat world i went to like my first day of VRChat was legit a weird sex dungeon some random people brought me to one

[desert aspen]

LMAO

[grim wren]

Anyone here with full body use USB hub for your dongles that works?

[vale osprey]

legit there was vibrators that made your controller vibrate

[desert aspen]

That's great, I would've pissed myself

[vale osprey]

im pretty sure that world is still up

[tropic crater]

yes, get a powered one though

[subtle lynx]

Anyone tuned into the stream, did they say a release date for Physic Bones?

[vale osprey]

you should be able to find it somehow if you wanna has lots of weird shit in it

[desert aspen]

My first day on vr (yesterday) a group of Canadian geese were chasing me around in my busty Jessica Rabbit avatar

[vocal shard]

some world owner just joined the game and kicked me

[grim wren]

@tropic crater can u give me an example of powered one?

[vocal shard]

rip getting veteran lmao

[dusk sable]

i feel like alot of kids will still continue to go into 18+ worlds

[vale osprey]

theres no stopping that

[bronze topaz]

2.0 avatar creators L

[subtle lynx]

Why use 2.0?

[unreal verge]

2.0 i want to vomit

[tidal wave]

guys is there any help channels

[twin fractal]

avatar 2 is cringe tbh

[subtle lynx]

3.0 is better in every way lmao, there's no point to not swap over.

[rancid jewel]

summer

[vale osprey]

yo my guy summer hell yeah

[dim maple]

tetra is right 3.0 is sexy

[late void]

You'll be fine. You would need to get kicked like 100 times

[rancid jewel]

chat is just going "18+"

[tropic crater]

The only one I had available where I live was an Orico 7 port hub, there are probably better ones. Go for powered because the usb bus in the pc wont be able to power/charge every tracker at once

[lucid sandal]

I haven't used default emotes in awhile. I do them irl with fbt

[vocal shard]

?

[vocal shard]

Needs to happen.

[subtle lynx]

Default emotes are in 3.0 as well, you just need to make a menu for them.

They're called "actions", they don't even override hand gestures either. That's an entire other layer.

[twin fractal]

every once in a while I gotta hit that backflip/dance though. they're the default dance of vrchat

[tropic crater]

The only one I had available where I live was an Orico 7 port hub, there are probably better ones. Go for powered because the usb bus in the pc wont be able to power/charge every tracker at once

wrong tag lmao

[lucid sandal]

Facial tracking would be pretty helpful for mutes

[subtle lynx]

Mouth tracking + Eye tracking with certain Vive products are out, they're just super expensive

[vale osprey]

so cool

[grim wren]

So i assume u put ur dongles far apart from each other

[tropic crater]

Yeah I use the cable/dongle cradle they come with

[shell grove]

i am going to post cringe on my gallery

[rancid jewel]

this is pretty pog

[upbeat dew]

no you'll loose scriber

I died when KiroNeem said "touch other people and let people touch you"

[rancid jewel]

nameplate statuses?

Slorg is the best username i've seen ever

[subtle lynx]

An easy place to put pronouns! Epic

[upbeat dew]

^ that and that I'm afraid of other people.

I hate to say it, but the more favs is big deal

[late void]

I just want to go outside guys. I just want to go outside

[rancid jewel]

identity update coming in weeks :OO

[vale osprey]

yo this egg toast man looks fucking great i love him

[amber juniper]

does that mean I have to find my identity until then?

[vale osprey]

i wanna hug him and his voice goes with him

[rancid jewel]

maybe

[drifting prism]

❤️

[upbeat dew]

Is the twitch chat saying "18+ filter" meaning they no longer want teens and preteens on VRC?

[brittle nest]

they just don't want kids

[rancid jewel]

they dont want immature people in more mature worlds

[vale osprey]

well no they dont want kids

[upbeat dew]

Isn't there already a 13+ minimum?

[subtle lynx]

^

[rare night]

BRUH i cant believe they blocked 18+

[vocal shard]

there are alot of people spamming the chat trying to spark a response from the devs about 18+ restrictions

[brittle nest]

yeah but no-one pays attention to it

[subtle lynx]

I'm 90% certain this is pre-recorded

[sly veldt]

nope

It's live

[rare night]

RON 18+ acknowledgement???

[shell grove]

Why would they prerecord it with tech issues

[subtle lynx]

Oh worm, then it's super well put together

[vocal shard]

dababy pog then

[subtle lynx]

Love the transition to images and such, gave the vibe of way too much production lmao

[sly veldt]

We're not a tv studio either. We all had to do this inbetween development

[shell grove]

Well we assumed that lol

[rare night]

why are they blocking our voices

[sly veldt]

I'm in the studio room now watching Tupper talk. And stream. And @severe lily XSOverly up so I can see dev stream script, discord and slack

👽

[shell grove]

Prove it throw a tomato

[subtle lynx]

Hell yeah slack time B-)

[sly veldt]

I did earlier

I'll throw money at Squiggly in the next bit

[shell grove]

Nice lol

[subtle lynx]

shoutout to the conspiracy theorist group

[shut apex]

I assume we will get an overview after stream of features?

[subtle lynx]

Group only worlds? ;o

[upbeat dew]

Groups is definitely sounding a like a killer feature, definitely going to use VRC more if that happens, regardless if I'm still on desktop.

[vocal shard]

get ready for that moneyshot boys

[subtle lynx]

chat returns to egg

[rancid jewel]

creator economy

[fallow yacht]

lol microtransactions

[shell grove]

... This isn't going to be microtransactions... Right?

[subtle lynx]

This feels like a bad idea

[sly veldt]

No

[brittle nest]

thank god

[sly veldt]

Not microtransactions lol

I'm a gamer and a vrchat user and I'd hate that

[shell grove]

Uhh... I'll reserve my thoughts until they're done talking

[sly veldt]

So hell no

[brittle nest]

sorry ron we like to jump to negative conclusions thank you for clarifying

[subtle lynx]

Oooh, does this mean tokens for uploading avatars to other people's accounts 👀
lets listen to see, that'd be sick

[sly veldt]

Listen.. and find out

[visual flicker]

can't wait to spend my vrcoins

[noble depot]

Having a creator storefront/economy type thing ingame instead of Booth/Gumroad/etc sounds terrifying and heckin' awesome

[gleaming kraken]

vket is gonna have so much fun with this

[remote elbow]

Yo Ron are you guys gonna acknowledge the call for age restriction today or nah.

[vocal shard]

Reminds me of aj sapphire shops

[noble depot]

kinda vket but everywhere o:

[rancid jewel]

oh no an alien!!

[brittle nest]

i have more vrbucks than you you're all poor

[north grove]

vrc patreon bad

[dense bobcat]

I'm going to riot if they don't call it VRCash

[vocal shard]

This is how Omega is going to make bank on funland

[vale osprey]

i dont really like the idea of a marketplace thing but i like the idea of supporting creators

[subtle lynx]

That's the vibe I'm getting to, this sounds like onboard Patreon and Gumroad

[brittle nest]

VRCapitalism

[silver smelt]

All of this talk of Creator Economy must mean that protecting uploaded assets, and improved methods to report and review copyrighted works is also in the pipeline, right?

[gleaming kraken]

this is just simplifying booth and patreon into the game itself, neat

[rancid jewel]

vrcatbucks

[dense bobcat]

they just said no bucks, just real money

[rare night]

bruh can we ping the mods if theyre not going to acknowledge the age restriction

[subtle lynx]

I don't know about that honestly, booth, gumroad, and patreon have a strong root in what they do

[tawny surge]

it would be pretty insulting towards creators if they implemented this but not secure avatar assets / clear game caches when the game is closed.

[rancid jewel]

mirrors 😎

[sly veldt]

You'll see at the end of this segment we want feedback on this and there will be a FORM

Yes indeed

[brittle nest]

i love playing my favorite game mirror simulator 4

[rancid jewel]

oh no an alien!

[shell grove]

Yeah... I'm not a fan of this. I like supporting creators, but the idea of worlds filled with "supporter exclusive content" and "premium avatars" sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen

[remote elbow]

#vrchat-general-2 message I'll take that as a no

[visual flicker]

My big worry for the avatar support is the exclusives considering how easy it is for certain people to rip avatars

[subtle lynx]

Well fuck now I have to learn Udon

[fallow yacht]

So Vket but year round?

[brittle nest]

ron is only going to respond to questions that concern his area of work. if he doesn't want to respond to us about the 18+ thing then he doesn't have to.

[rare night]

like imagine saying we're a community and then ignoring us

[subtle lynx]

VRChat isn't an NSFW space. It's not meant for that and they ban for it. That's why they're not saying anything about it, because they don't need to

[gleaming kraken]

this is a stream, with pre planned events and topics. if the topic you bring up isnt on their schedule. they dont have time to cover it.

[subtle lynx]

^ That as well

[brittle nest]

exactly

[upbeat dew]

It's worked fine on Roblox for years, and premium AVs are already a thing on VRC.

[rare night]

some people do not want to interact with children

[faint harbor]

I think this Creator Economy thing is way too soon to be a thing right now. Way to many things that can wrong with it...

[rare night]

it has nothing to do with NSFW

[remote elbow]

It might not had originated as that, but it has become one.

[shell grove]

This will encourage more widespread use with integration directly into the game. It's different.

[tawny surge]

the topic has been brought up over and over again across multiple platforms and its not been addressed publicly anywhere. if they haven't planned for it there's a disconnect somewhere.

[upbeat dew]

Then just should avoid children? I don't get what the fuss is about, they're still people.

[subtle lynx]

Go to a Friends+ space. The minimum age requirement is 13, if they're under that they shouldn't be in the space anyway. Saying "18+" or "AO" gives off the vibe you want an NSFW space

[shell grove]

Or they just hate children

[carmine nebula]

This is where being in invite+/Only works wonders to avoid children.

[tawny surge]

if they need time to think about the issue and come up with a way to address the issue / time to discuss internally they should atleast state that they are looking into options / ways to help with the issue

[remote elbow]

People who are vulnerable to predators on VRC. They shouldn't be there to begin with.

[tawny surge]

but also spamming devs in the stream / discord isnt going to help the issue. just wait and see

[subtle lynx]

Also, I feel there's going to be an issue with the Creator Economy depending on how it's structured, because I buy avatars off of booth and gumroad to customize and stuff like that. Subscribe to some people on Patreon for assets and avatar releases, so I'm just interested how they plan to do things like that, time will tell

[rare night]

some people want to build genuine relationships or talk about mature topics and there are people who lie about their age too

[subtle stratus]

Vrchat is gonna get DMCA'd so hard for this Avatar Creator Sub

[tropic crater]

maybe they just want a slice of the revenue of sales that are happening in third party marketplaces 🤔

[tawny surge]

they have the survey so bring it up there

[vale osprey]

I just thought of something really bad

[subtle lynx]

... care to explain why? lol

[shell grove]

Will answering the survey actually impact it's implementation?

[subtle stratus]

models use TDA and MMD assets, making it monetary is illegal

[muted wharf]

yes

[subtle lynx]

Why run a survey anyway if they won't use the data? That's wasted effort

[gleaming kraken]

lol the survey shows some upcoming stuff

[tawny surge]

"if there is anything you were hoping to see that we didn't cover" > vrchat.net/survey

[vale osprey]

theres gonna be a lot of copyright issues with people making avatars of characters like actual licensed characters from things and making money off that

[shell grove]

I will definitely fill it out later

Because I'll say right now, I can see this ending badly if you aren't extremely attentive with it

[brittle nest]

row 20 baby let's goooooo

[rancid jewel]

udon man

[brittle nest]

i'm popping off

[compact onyx]

vr chat kinda getting boring for me after for playing it for 7 months

[fallow yacht]

Oh yeah. Say goodbye to all the copyrighted avatars already in the game

[subtle lynx]

I'm so excited for synced pens, holy shit that's amazing

[tropic crater]

honestly dont think they have the resources to monitor something like that properly

[vale osprey]

yeah for real theres gonna be a lot of legal issues if someone is gonna start making money off already licensed and copyrighted character avatars

[lavish aurora]

I played it since September 2019 lol

[shell grove]

Yeah, everything else in this presentation has been amazing but the monetization stuff makes me genuinely worried

[subtle stratus]

@muted wharf wont there be issues with dmca'ing for models using illegal assets? or will it have to run through a verification system

[rancid jewel]

box fail

[tawny surge]

vrc is slow to respond to dmca takedown requests. a few of my friends have complained about it

[compact onyx]

Didnt really fucking Ask But nice

[unreal verge]

That avatar creator thing could actually kill the game if it goes extremely wrong

[main harbor]

I have strong concerns about DMCA and IP concerns regarding subscriptions and monetization.

[river barn]

Paid content is basically legally impossible unless they want to deal with DMCA and many other legal woes for stolen/licensed/ect. What about a licensed song in an avatar? This wont happen.

[fallow yacht]

that's gonna get rid of 95 percent of avatars in the game. that's whats gonna happen once they implement Patreon - style monetization into the game.

[wet oriole]

I went to use offer up, and it has a feature you can submit your id or license for more trust. They didn't approve mine? -.- okay

[vale osprey]

yeah i dont like the monetization shit i dont think its a good idea for atleast right now and needs to be really thought out like a lot

[brittle nest]

is it pronounced oo-don or you-don i've heard both

[shell grove]

Direct monetization like that is just an extremely slippery slope both legally and in community fatigue. I hope they know what they're doing

[main harbor]

Disregarding even for a moment the DMCA concern; there is a well documented asset security problem in VRC and I don't see how users are going to be able to trust their paid content will be offered securely.

[subtle stratus]

its very scary, its the reason you could never make vrchat a paid game

[vale osprey]

exactly i dont think they thought this through enough

[subtle lynx]

Hype for these save states

[fallow yacht]

Once DMCA's start coming down, they'll cower like Twitch did getting rid of streamer's VODs

[tropic crater]

this big time as well

[north grove]

🍿

[main harbor]

I mean, I don't know how even fully original content will be able to be provided with adequate access controls. If I ever decided to sell my own avatar I'm confident that, by tomorrow, it'll be being used by dozens of users who've never paid me a cent.

[tropic crater]

moderation of stuff like this is likely crazy expensive as well

[upbeat dew]

Oh wait, how bad is it? I don't really play the game too often, just make avatars.

[fallow yacht]

That's honestly why monetization like this won't work on VRC. Vket is superior and most of the Japanese creators sell their models without problems on websites like BOOTH.

[tropic crater]

unless they just ignore what is being uploaded until it eventually gets DMCA

[shell grove]

I mean everything else looks cool!

[main harbor]

I mean, BOOTH isn't perfect, but yeah, that's about the size of it.

[shell grove]

I went from being hyped about the physics bones to actually concerned for the future of the game with this economy stuff lol

[subtle stratus]

its also a reason why comfy creator cove has removed selling TDA assets

[main harbor]

That's the reason at VKET though they upload cut-down previews.

[ornate vigil]

guys is vrchat mods banneble

[subtle stratus]

yes

[gleaming kraken]

very

[shell grove]

Why are you the way you are

[slim cape]

yeah wait true, what happens when someone resells stolen assets

[ornate vigil]

thx for saying

[crystal burrow]

what kind of a question is that

[ornate vigil]

dont ask

[main harbor]

It's clearly posted in announcements.

[tropic crater]

snitch him lmao

[main harbor]

Good for him. I wouldn't continue this line of conversation.

[subtle stratus]

@crystal burrow you are cursed

[rancid jewel]

client mods = ban

[shell grove]

So you're making your own Unity hub-type application?

Or is this a package for Unity

[ornate vigil]

anyways who is watching the dev stream

[subtle lynx]

Sounds like it's a Unity Hub typed application, I hope this means we get 2019 Unity sooner

[rancid jewel]

i am

[ornate vigil]

nice

[main harbor]

I wouldn't hold my breath.

[subtle lynx]

oh my GOD are they actually making things faster in the sdk?

[shell grove]

Autoreload in clients is convenient

[subtle lynx]

I've seen some [other games] that let you upload the same amount of data in like, under 2 minutes, if they can actually make it not take like 10 minutes that would be pretty pog

[upbeat dew]

I heard "iteration speed" and my life flashed before my eyes... days mostly spent waiting for AVs to upload...

[subtle lynx]

mood

[ornate vigil]

i dont really care about ui THEY GOTTA RELEASE THE NEW DYNAMIC BONES NOW

[gleaming kraken]

summer.

[ornate vigil]

i know

[upbeat dew]

summer but won't be a bummer

[ornate vigil]

XD good one

[sharp rose]

i will finally be able to grab taco and shove in face

[shell grove]

World jams is cool

Yeah no I am very very excited for physics bones and avatar triggers

I wanna get my hands on it nooooooow

[sharp rose]

Soon™

[shell grove]

qwq

[gleaming kraken]

lol

[subtle lynx]

Phys bones and triggers are amazing, love them in [other games] so bringing them to where my friends hangout is amazing

[upbeat dew]

Tails and ears without the headache of working with RB's and joints.

[gleaming kraken]

holy hell this stream is actually too good

[subtle lynx]

I'm just extremely peeved that it means I'm going to have to upload like. 10 avatars again when it comes out.

[noble depot]

i'm heckin' excited about literally everything they've shown lmao

[jolly ether]

just think of all the juicy bugs with these new systems :3

[gleaming kraken]

lucky for me i havent gotten a chance yet to migrate my 2018-early 2020 stuff yet so ill just wait for this new stuff to come out

[subtle lynx]

Hopefully there's a tool they make for easy dynamic bones -> phys bones

[noble depot]

little bits

[ornate vigil]

there was something coming in may i heard

[shell grove]

They were discussing dynamic bones autoconverting to physics bones ingame

[noble depot]

that might be done automatically actually, maybe

[subtle lynx]

Oh, did they? lmao

[gleaming kraken]

im so hopeful that we will get a physics bones-cloth-type system. its so hard to optimize cloth and keep a good rank

[main harbor]

Hopefully.

[carmine nebula]

Yeah, Hopefully.

[subtle lynx]

I tuned in right after that part, so I didn't really have the info there ;o

[upbeat dew]

q u i c k b i t s

[shell grove]

My only concern with autoconversion is physics bones not working exactly the same

[upbeat dew]

They mention that too.

[ornate vigil]

wait why did them take 2 years too make another dev stream

[gleaming kraken]

yeah i know

[shell grove]

Some avatars might get borked after conversion

[main harbor]

They at least allegedly are trying to make them work the same; the mentioned they didn't have gravity and force working yet.

[upbeat dew]

Being understaffed from what I get.

[ornate vigil]

yep

[subtle lynx]

qweh, you have a point. i hope conversion is good

[ornate vigil]

They said their gonna use a macanic that doesnt brake most avatar but they made no promises

[gleaming kraken]

who was the person earlier that kept asking about facial stuff?

[sage raft]

Hi

[rancid jewel]

epic

[shadow cosmos]

Gn

[shell grove]

I won't even need to make a version of Mechna for Facerig if this comes to be lol

[subtle lynx]

Oh this stuff is epic

[ornate vigil]

OHH DANM forgot about eye and lip tracking

[shadow cosmos]

Uhh...

[rancid flame]

missed half of it. but this sounds cool

[shell grove]

Wait yo Cinemachine support?

[shadow cosmos]

Ya

[sage raft]

Can someone show me how to change skins ?

[rancid jewel]

yooo

[lofty topaz]

[shell grove]

That's awesome lol

[subtle lynx]

Where exactly can we follow progress again? Is there a trello or something 👀

[noble depot]

awh, 1001

desktop cameras sound heckin' cool though o:

[rancid jewel]

tunnelling!!

[vocal shard]

yup

[rancid flame]

cant wait to see the doc that comes out about this

[subtle lynx]

asmr clicking in the background, love it

[vocal shard]

aggressive typing

everything you guys talk about i can hear it

[shell grove]

I'd love to see the Cinemachine camera be freelook so your can adjust it's position using a stick

[sly briar]

who coughed in my ear

[ornate vigil]

ok the stream cameras for pc is pretty good for people that use pc desktop poggers

[rancid jewel]

tunnelling effect to help motion sickness

[patent plume]

Pennnnis?

[ornate vigil]

No

[rancid flame]

its definitely a good call to just let people implement their own tech

[subtle lynx]

I'm 50% certain Ron is sitting in a chair

[ornate vigil]

Ron who

owwwwwwwww the guy in the stream never mind

[rancid jewel]

damn, we've been going for 2 hours already?
nice!

[twin fractal]

omg

[noble depot]

oo, regional servers are gonna be nice

[ornate vigil]

BRUH

[sharp rose]

there were a couple things to talk about, short stream i know. sry 😦

[rancid jewel]

regional servers yooooo

[rancid jewel]

8 hour devstream

[noble depot]

my stream buffered right as Tup said "data center" lmao

[high heath]

helo

[rancid jewel]

finally, no more 500 ping.

[noble depot]

o: 2019

[rancid jewel]

UNITY 2019!!!!!!

[west yoke]

oh damn

[high heath]

what

[velvet gull]

No more 160 ping finally

[subtle lynx]

2019. 2019. YES. 2019. Finally.

[rancid jewel]

HOLY SHIT

[rancid flame]

2019 lets gooo

[golden scaffold]

[gleaming kraken]

woo!

[upbeat dew]

ETA? Unity 2018 is causing me physical pain from there not being any DPI scalling

[high heath]

what you mean with 2019?

[rancid jewel]

they wanna go to 2019 lets goo

[noble depot]

There's a developer stream going on currently, and they're talking about moving from Unity 2018 to 2019

[rancid jewel]

upgrade from unity 2018 to unity 2019

[high heath]

oh

[rancid flame]

man i was losing hope in vrc but the tracking stuff really hyped me up again

[vocal shard]

Is Row 20 on the forum supposed to say Row 20 or?

[shell grove]

My thoughts:

• Physics Bones are incredibly exciting. Finally banishing dynamic bones and having performant avatar interactions will be a huge boon for the game.
• Menus and such are looking good. The profile information stuff looks very useful for sharing info.
• The Creator Economy is dangerous. Actively encouraging ingame monetization and premium world stuff/avatars is crazy. I really hope they know their stuff because it's a very tight line to walk between security, legality, and community fatigue

[upbeat dew]

Host ~~definately copyright not infringing ~~paid AVs on IPFS?

[twin fractal]

on the fence with creator economy stuff. everything else looks poggers

[velvet gull]

I'm worried about people selling stolen models tbh, if it does get added it needs to be heavily moderated.

[molten gale]

Regions lesgoooo

[velvet gull]

Finally no more 200 ping for EU bois

[golden scaffold]

Feel free to send in this feedback through the survey, we're genuinely interested in listening to people's thoughts!

[molten gale]

relativity

[shell grove]

I imagine every creator will need to have their subscription items approved. Still valid though

[molten gale]

row 20

[rancid jewel]

i wonder how porting my unity 2018 stuff to unity 2019 will work

[vale osprey]

honestly i dont think its a good idea to do the creator economy thing so much shit to go wrong and bad

[subtle lynx]

Where's the survey linked at?

[shell grove]

Yep filling it out shortly

[sharp rose]

vrchat.com/survey

[vocal shard]

I love Row 20, great idea I think

Hello

[noble depot]

UI estimated summer o:

[rancid flame]

most hyped about the tracking stuff planned and allowing users to implement their own tech

[subtle lynx]

The jobs opportunity is extremely interesting to me as well 👀 that should be announced

[shell grove]

Seriously though I am actually hyped for physics bones

[vocal shard]

I joined vr looks great

[velvet gull]

Honestly I'm super stoked for the avatar dynamics

[sharp rose]

but then you'd work here 😦

[velvet gull]

No need for people to use REDACTED anymore

[subtle lynx]

i mean... yeah!

[faint harbor]

What was Row 20 meant to be?

[sharp rose]

Making something you love into a job is dangerous to do lol

[upbeat dew]

It took me way too long to realize row 20 was a mistake.

[jovial kestrel]

Danger is my middle name

[rancid jewel]

that 2 hours just FLEW by!

[sharp rose]

[subtle lynx]

I mean, true! That's why I don't do music! I'm passionate about VR and Unity and stuff like that, hell, I'm in College for Game Design

[amber juniper]

I like row 20, sounds interesting

[rancid flame]

hope we get a doc version of the dev stream to explain some of the features as i missed a bit of it

[noble depot]

Ati Danger Ash

[shell grove]

I'm not smart enough to work for you guys lol, I'm barely competent enough to work with my own code

[upbeat dew]

Very excited for row 20

[tropic crater]

with the right team game dev is actually great

[rancid jewel]

gonna check out grime's new world because dev stream told me to

[tropic crater]

just gotta tune out the stinky people

[noble depot]

I mean pfft if VRChat ever moves to Source I might be able to help

[arctic elm]

row 20 sounds super sick ngl

[shell grove]

lol

[visual flicker]

row 20 is the best part

[vocal shard]

word

[jolly ether]

hopefully there'll be a tl;dr in announcemrnts or something

[noble depot]

that was a vv cool stream! Lots'a cool features and stuff talked about o:

[faint harbor]

Ahh... ok nevermind.

[arctic elm]

this summer will indeed be pog

[sharp rose]

some might say

it will be

the Summer of Pog

[vocal shard]

Dababy pog?

[subtle lynx]

Summer of Poggaming

[deft flame]

@sharp rose could you explain what row 20 is on the survey

[potent fern]

Ok so, that was quite the news in that stream,

[shell grove]

• Identity Update (Weeks)
• New UI (Summer)
• Avatar Dynamics (Summer)
• Groups (This year)
• Creator Economy (This year)
• VRC+ Gifting (Summer)
• VRC+ Oculus (Summer)
• UNU (Weeks)

[rancid jewel]

vrcat summer

[subtle lynx]

Back to lurking! I'll see y'all around, I'm watchin'.

[sharp rose]

dunno honestly.

[rancid jewel]

summers like a month-two months from now :O

[ember nebula]

Interesting road map. Personally where I see "Summer" I'm thinking "Fall" or "Winter". Things never go to plan.

[arctic elm]

identity update and av dyn sound v nice. cant wait to have vrconlyfans subs lmao

[vocal shard]

VRC+ Oculus getting that budget up and avatar dynamics going to be amazing

[rancid jewel]

new ui new ui new ui

[spring vine]

hey sach who can i bribe with art to review my ban appeal sooner lol

[smoky berry]

what was the identity update? missed beginning of stream

[wet oriole]

Lurk lurk

[arctic elm]

new IU is kinda meh, at least until they push the main menu update

[rancid jewel]

having your bios in game and having your statuses on your nameplates

[smoky berry]

Ah ok ok

[limber warren]

I had to stop watching the stream like 15 minutes ago what did I miss

[hoary drift]

screw monetization row 20 is the best

[rancid jewel]

row 20's the best feature

[smoky berry]

it always did seem kinda weird that that wasn't a thing so fair enough

[vocal shard]

It really is the best

[halcyon void]

Most of the users in twitch chat, doesnt want monetization

[rancid jewel]

can't wait for Row 20 to be added to vrchat

[vocal shard]

some may say its "pog" even

[deft flame]

check your recent

[smoky berry]

let's hope they listen to survey at all, they're bound to implement monetization but I wonder if they'll blunt the approach with enough feedback

[limber warren]

The monetizing is all optional and doesn’t lock any gameplay behind a paywall so I don’t see the problem lol

[twin fractal]

yeah monetization is not going to work without heavy verification/restrictions and I think they know that

[smoky berry]

well it might, you can make your world pay to win or play

[pulsar knot]

Thank you guys for the stream, lots of neat stuff, and was good to hear from you guys on stuff like this

[weak lantern]

can I know when they update region system?

[dusk sable]

whats row 20 someone explain pls?

[limber warren]

Row 20 is the 20th row

[deft flame]

A standard placeholder momo made a mistake

[rich coral]

WTF is row 20

[lucid sandal]

What is row 20

[smoky berry]

It's the final vrc update

[arctic elm]

row 20 is a super cool new feature

[weak lantern]

because in here, we have to see 200 over ping

[deft flame]

A standard placeholder from google forms feel free to ignore it

[twin fractal]

so you have lower ping if you live in Europe lol???

[smoky berry]

it adds support for brain implant tracking

[limber warren]

I want to keep row 20 as an inside joke for VRChat players lol

[twin fractal]

why would you not want that?

[lucid sandal]

I love getting my brains fried by a Ugandan Knuckles crasher avatar.

[tropic crater]

is the regional thing optional?

[limber warren]

I live in the US and I get like 100 ping on average

[weak lantern]

I live in asia and I get 200~350 ping

if they add japanese server, than I can play with 40ms ping

[arctic elm]

new JP servers

[worthy oracle]

it’s coming

[shut apex]

Can finally have an extra 40 ms taken off my ping kek

[twin fractal]

It's not going to make you play with different people. it just lowers your ping. not sure why anyone would want high ping mode

[weak lantern]

so, I just wondered when that happen, because that was not in their release time table

[rancid jewel]

dev stream was awesome

[worthy oracle]

they said in a few months

[weak lantern]

thats good thanks nin

[smoky berry]

Apparently they're still in early stages of regional servers