#vrchat-general-2
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one of my friends reported my little brothers fb account when he was under 13 lmao
Why am I still getting the vrchat is not responding error?
Junior accounts on rec room arent allowed to talk but they bypass it, you know how? By putting their birth year in the early 2000s
and what do we do about it?
we report the underage children.
....?
i've checked, rec rooms report system actually works. so does vrchats.
Bro be honest
Under legal age isn't necessarily under 13.
Who has blue bape Live Photo
i am being honest.
It's a lot of ages actually.
i have a sneaking sus that kombat is also underage
Given specifics, you can't be on discord until 16 if you're out of america
in the US you must be at least 13. vrc is based in the us so i assume they use that
Most countries keep their children in check.
vrc's minimum age is 13, yes.
Yeah, for VRC it's different but
idk how vrc treats other countries
hi! i need help! sorry to interupt but ive been having vr issues for like the past two weeks! i havent been able to see my socials list at all and so i havent been able to play!
Actually not entirely sure.
team has started disabling things like avatar uploading during peak playertimes
so that the api doesnt fuckin explode
Hop in vc then
broken for everyone this weekend. after the weekend is over if its still broke ask again
No vc?
there are no vcs here
They don’t have a vc omg
hop in a discord call or somethin idk
I’m 14, Dec 5, 2006
k cool but still whyre u friends with an 11 y/o
i just wanna play i havent been able to play since last thursday
you're either gonna sound like you're a 23 year old man or a kid so idk if vc would help lmao
if they were 23 that'd make it TEN TIMES worse
Why can’t I be friends with 11 year olds bruh
they arent allowed on vrchat
I’ve 6th graders that are my friends and I’m an 8th grader?
you can, irl. not online
They’re like 11-12 but like I guess that don’t matter
yeah
it's fine being friends with them irl, but not on vrchat if they aren't old enough to be on vrchat.
Y’all really expect me to do sum with an 11 year old bruh I’m bit weird like that
Omg ac
if you're under 13 the internet is like the dark place nobody can go to in lion king. the rest of us are the yeens
listen man
i see underage kids on vrchat, i report.
easy.
If I see underage kids I report and block
No they're saying it ain't allowable on vrchat if they aren't 13+. If it's irl it's fine, no one cares.
we do NOT need children seeing the shit thats on this platform
I don’t cause I ain’t no snitch
listen man rules are rules im still finna snitch
And vexatious I can’t report
Aight, well, we can put you as sus.
BeCuase
i gotta draw the line at some point, dawg.
and underage kids on vrchat is that line.
Omg someone hop in a cal wit me
Jesus Christ y’all pressure on me so much I seem sus like you think I’d rat myself out like that
...yes
If I was underage I wouldn’t rat myself out
well i mean you fuckin ratted out your friend like it was common knowledge
You literally say you will break the rules to scar someone who's too young.
👀
All actions have consequences.
kombat does sound about 14 tho tbf
Who has blue bape Live Photo
I told y’all
sadly that doesnt excuse the underage friend
Idrc about him I wanted to show y’all I’m not underage
reports twitch account just to be safe
You’re shitting me
Ommmggg
No I didn’t fall for it
It’s obvious you didn’t
Cause i prolly would have got a noti
I caused the chat to die let’s go
I got myself into suspicion of being underage got back out of it and killed chat
hey guys wouldnt it be cool if like
we werent dead
i am very tempted to go to the store and get a bunch of sweets
Idk man sounds like something a toddler would do
well i mean
nothings stopping you from doing so
idk if toddlers can drive fam
You’re gonna get in your little plastic Bugatti and go to the store with 5 dollars
Bugattis suck
well i mean when i was 4 my dad let me sit in the drivers seat and hold the steering wheel
stanced 1997 NA Miata, thank you very much
that car looks fire
To be fair
11 year olds now are watching bestgore and stuff like that so you think vrchat would scar em that much?
yes.
11 year olds been doin that
Yknow cause tiktok be like “omg go look at this video of a man getting sliced in half!”
if i know anything about tiktok users its that theyre easily scared and never check if somethings misinformation
lotta smol brain individuals on there
Ok here let me tell you
There was a 19 year old screaming his head off, regretting how when he first started vrchat young, that he was groomed on here.
bruh they dont need better servers lol
Let that be a giant lesson, that it isn't the sights you see. It's the people who use you.
hey r friend recs bugged rn
yes
deadass
deadass.
theyve disabled some parts of vrchat so that the api doesnt fuckin implode
Look dawg I can’t report till I’m a user and not a visitor and I don’t wanna go through all the trouble of rec a video posting it to Facebook downloading it and posting it here just to report someone and hell they might just get a fucking warning
is there a reason full body users and our hands get locked into place while sitting in vrc chairs
i know vrchats moderation system, underage is instant permaban when reported.
What’s the full mod system
I wanna know if I get reported for sum how long I get banned
you arent banned unless the game specifically tells you on the loading screen
Or suspended tempbanned whatever
If the age is known, it's usually a ban till the year they'll turn 13 
cool stuff
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/693931930646872178/820147908107698196/xo84qsjpcrs51.png
anyways this is what a ban message usually looks like
you can see its on the loading screen
gotta love 2FA
Know
is it intended or a bug and why?
2FA gang 😎
2FA ftw
one time my 2FA code was 690 420 😎
FUNNY
2FA is annoying but definitely worth it
and another time the coupon code i got on the mcdonalds app was PLEB
Like how long is the first tempbanned
like 4 days
Though it depends on the offense
one time my 2fa code had the funny number in it 
So here is how I think it works right
it depends on the offence
So if you get permabanned from vrchat do you just never play it again?
if you try to bypass a ban on another account that account gets banned as well
Pretty much, I mean obviously people get around it but officially no
so dont try to be slick
I prolly seem so sus rn but if the mods see this peep my account I’ve never been banned and don’t have any accounts linked to my vrchat account in anyway
Other than my oculus account
I mean I have 2 different alt accounts, doesn't mean I was ever banned
I have my main, one to start fresh, and one to be a mute
i only have one account that i do all my stuff on
what the big world of city 17 from vavle ? that an rpg elements ?
Though half of the second one's reason was so I could have fbt as a visitor and see peoples reactions
its a map from the game "half life 2"
I got a funny one yesterday
I know there’s a mod watching this channel, hey mod who’s watching this channel 👋
Only 2 who would be watching are fpaul and ati, doesn't matter anyways
Well I guess the vrc team too but they aren't technically mods
vrchat team does stuff
Sometimes I get lucky and get a reply back on other servers
Yes but they technically aren't mods
Same thing
Last I checked, I think the active mod role actually has more perms than the vrc team role
Who has blue bape Live Photo
God I like how I’m put under suspicion just because I said I have an 11 year old friend
Who has blue bape Live Photo
Cause I keep digging my self into a hole
Like how I talked about the ban durations
To make it seem like I’m doing something
I’m so sus rn but I swear on my dead grandma grave I ain’t do nun

can vrc stop being a pile of shit and allow me to join on friends?
really pissing me off when friends are online and i cant join
Quick question
use direct links/discord..?
@winter shell #announcements
How long does it take to become a user or new user
making a couple friends and having 10-20 hours in game time should do it
New user takes like 10 friends and like 12 hours (It's not a guarantee it's just based on my experience)
I’ve pulled all nighters on this game for weeks
are you using a vrchat account?
No
thats probably why
Oculus cause oculus is cool
it takes years to rank up on non vrchat account
So ur telling me I have to create an entirely new account
you can merge your oculus and vrchat accounts
so you have all your stuff on your new account
how long does it take to rank up on a vr chat account?
in my personal experience
15 hours - a couple of friends = new user rank
100+ hours - around 100 friends = user rank
Mm yes I love losing all my friends but if I have my avatars it’s a ok
Bruh the vrc team can't see the audit logs but mods can
friends also transfer
Yeah but then I gotta put them into groups again and it’s a mess
See idek how to merge my accounts so
Instructions for it are on the VRChat website when you login.
Login to the account you want to merge into the vrc account and get the merge token
ez
Fuuuck saaaaaaakke too much work
Cause the name KombatKid124 is taken so I gotta use a new one and it’s a bitch to make a new name cause like maybe I’ll meet somebody and we’ll have snap or sum and they’ll ask me for my name and I’ll say kombatkid but there will be two and then that’s gonna be confusing
KombatKid125
Nope no way to merge accounts
Who's up?
It's in the settings of the oculus/steam account you want to merge with your vrc account
That sounds more like the build number, but I wouldn't know since I never needed to merge
Mannnn this shit is waaaaaaavkkk
Fuck it I guess I just stay visitor
Shit got me fucked up
Funny thing right
It says you have to get a merge token
Doesn’t say where just says you have to
listen man when you get used to vrchats ui things are actually really easy
That’s the equivalent of being in the gulag and your homie giving you call outs like he’s over there
“Oh he’s over there by that thing over there do you see him”
“Vr users may want to remove their” remove their what?
their headset
ok cool
now wait a couple of hours for everything to transfer
it might take a while because uhh
Idek why I was being so sus tbh, I kept digging myself into a hole cause I wouldn’t admit not snitching was kinda bad
!online
There are 39353 users in VRChat currently
yeah there's 39k people online so it'll def take a bit
friendly reminder that the all time peak was 41k 👀
Like which start to roll in first
idk, havent merged accounts myself because i never had to.
I get hundreds of "Endpoint temporarily disabled" errors right now lmao
Never forgot the day a grown ass woman told me and my buddy we would crumple like paper or her in a fight cause she carries a gun
Casual threatening to shoot a couple minors
Social is not working? :c
Stayed up till 5 am on this game, Dom much fun... apart from the friend list going missing
friends list go brr
God damn the update screwed up the game menu
At least VRChat.exe didn't completely stopped working this time like all the last 3 Fridays lmao
meesa sad
Indeed
nice 39k active players
Again like octo said literally 3 posts before that, #announcements
People really don't look up
vrcbot really said lemme add a few 0's
few thousand 0's*
thats a big number
can they fix it faster i have a vr meeting in an hour
my desktop friend got a quest 2 and cant log in to her account do you have to do some weird merge thing or something
i hate oculus
does your desktop friend use a steam account
dont think so, web social thing just has a username not STEAM_ blah blah
huh, weird. either theyre typing something wrong or its vrchat having a moment
apparently it keeps asking to verify email
well then they should do that
So what happens if I crash while merging
it borked ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Having problem with friends list.
It's not something to fix, it's been done on purpose
So vrc doesn't just die like the last few weeks
They are rolling out a fix next week so hopefully it shouldn't be an issue after this week
Hm
Wait....
Yeah I thought so
vor
I knew that name sounded familiar
Yee
vor
VRchat friends list isn't workign at all..
i got same problem too
Again... #announcements
yeah thats def me when
lol. it ok. i got work around. i just invite using discord
neat
Or using an invite link, or using steam
Or website

vor
you are indeed vor
The api is what is having problems, the actual servers themselves are fine
hahaha api go brr
ive been waiting weekend after weekend for the game to be fixed and this is the best they could do amazing
i'm frustrated because i can't make any meetings or anything because of this shit
hey, at least you werent like me, took two hours for my list to load and then my pc crashed, so i gave up
So do you see anyone complaining about being DDoSed? Do you even think vrc would exist if they did?
well I hope this is the last week they have this issue
tell me something i don't know
The fact that you think so is a joke in itself
Uhh
That VRChat sends a lot of data is true but it's far away from an actual DDoS. That's why they pushed an update and removed some unneeded API calls
^^^^
Other than the fact that I have literally run my own servers in an official and professional capacity? Idk you decide
ooooh snap
I think the latest update performance is worse than the previous one, too many fps drops and slowdowns
Other users avatars effect your performance too.
Especially that one anime girl that is half naked with 300 million dynamic bones and 100 8K textures
its dope ngl
Ew among us is trash imo
lol i turned those off
So you don't even see avatars?
Never got into among us, battle discs is making a come back so im playing that
eh in vrchat its more like chilling in a hub lmfao
If you see the avatar's then you don't have them turned off
nobody plays seriously
He was specifying the ones with like 300 mil bones
Dynamic bones, only way to see and filter that is by manually checking every single avatar
Again, you can't tell what the heavy ones are
If it doesnt render right on my potato its too heavy for me
Does anyone wanna play vrchat with me? Also i dont talk cuz my mic is broken-
some avatars legit just die on my pc
You can easily tell what the heavy ones are, you check your frames.
It doesn't matter, the bones will be hidden until someone wants them to show
I would but my internet is ded
Not gonna argue over it, Ill let you have your belief and I'll have mine, sound fair?
I mean it's not exactly a belief but ok
:fr:
hey im new to vr chat and just got it on pc how do i get ones from the community
I usually can tell which ones are heaby just by looking at then
Get one of what from the community
I dont understand the question
idk how to get avatars
oh wait
Or just steal avatars off people with cloning on
Go to avatar hubs
Rumhams is nice
i didnt say that correctly
sorry if im being dumb i know absoloutely nothing about the game
How do i vrchat
Greasus
MoistGreasus
Np I joint a couple of days ago too. just go upto ppl and press esc then click on their avatars and click the clone option.
Not everyone has cloning on though
If you cant click it go to another person
Most people don't
ill figure it out
Yeah
If you can’t clone it view the avatar author and see if that avatar creator has a world.
thanks
If you're looking for a genre of avatar just type into worlds and search
Most newbies have cloning on tho
Yeah I know for a fact I don't, in fact when I made my alts the first thing I did was turn off cloning
you might find smth
Ikr
I have a few collectibles that I only give friends so my cloning is off
I just don't like people yoinking my avatars because then they feel less special to me for the duration I'm there
Same
Especially if its one someone else has made for me
Ofc, there are exceptions
Hasn't happened yet
lmfao i find it annoying when ppl wear the same avatar as me
Honestly I could probably ask matty to make me one and he would
I want a custom avatar 😭
I mean I could also just make one myself but meh, lazy
Im good with blender but idk how to export and bs
Cats is invaluable
I actually have cloning always on but no one can clone from me since I always use my private avatars lol
Mine is literally just a rexouium painted like my fursona
xD
I've seen it, though it's been a while so I don't remember it
Uh
I hate hentai avatars they're cringe af
Oh then nvm, I thought it was the one you always used
Its grey and red
Though I may have been thinking about alex's
How many hrs do you have on vr chat??
Just about 800 or so
Almost 1000
I got it like 3 weeks ago, I think I have like 400?
When'd you start?
Tricky question
160+ steam version, probably lije 20 standalone quest version
I got it a day or so ago I have 13 hrs
I technically started like 2 years ago but I was gone for a year
I have like 170 on desktop and then stopped tracking hours because quest moment
So in a way I actually started in about october
Give me your VRChat username and i can see when you created your account
I cant afford Vr lol
I can do that too octo, I use the same thing
I can afford VR, my pc just can't handle it
Lol shud have just bought a new pc instead then
Outdated specs
I initially created my VRChat account in like mid 2020, played for a while, and dropped it for a few months.
now I'm back and I love this game.
Instead of buying a 500 dollar+ Vr headset
I play since September
half of the upgrades I need are the same as how much I spent on the headset :)
I don't remember my exact join date
Whats your ign
WeeWDiedrich
i wouldve never guessed
Date Joined
2020-07-04
neat, so around late 2020
Skye, Date Joined
2021-02-13
I have a fucking AMD 4300 Quad-Core from like 2012 and an Nvidia GTX670
my pc trash
I never noticed
but like, at the same time, I'm shocked at what it can run
Always looked smooth to me
Hm?
Wym Hm
i wanted to build a new pc this year but the whole trade war thing is kinda stopping it lol
You act like I haven't seen u in vr
Oh, yeah I forgot about that
I'm really hard on the edge with my pc and VR lol
It ran, just with, sub 30 frames, and uh, occasional screen tears
I can use link, its just more painful
Also I just remembered I can actually look at your avatar
My friend didn't finish it lmao
At least the picture you uploaded when uploading it
It's personal so I can't fully see it unless I see you
I have the GTX 1070 as my gpu and an amd ryzen 7 3700x as my cpu
runs like a charm
I've a gtx 750ti
5 KB/s? wtf are you on
hey look it's you
That's the current data that gets transferred
If there is none it will display none
Hello!
Oh I see what you meant by unfinished @gritty cloud
I really need to comm my own avatar, I can make em but not nearly as cool as that
Nightmare
Just implemented a new feature today
Ah I found you
neat
Nice character.
Yeah, he wasn't paying attention to the ref I sent him and fucked some shit up
api go brr
what would be considered a crap processor for a pc
Is anyone else having problems with crashing and friends list not loading??
I was more referring to the bottom half where the face is literally the only thing textured in
I may come online. I'll have to disable auto shutdown of my pc before lol
I'll come online when I'm not literally buried in assignments
Im not even technically online rn, just on desktop mode
Just sitting in my home world
hi guys i just transferred my steam acc to my vrchat acc with the token and all and i cant see my friends 😦
so is there anything to do? literally none of my friends appear
You can invite via outside means
i dont know how, atleast from the website
i tried, but where they are doesnt load. so options are grey
dam
is there not a way to request off someone from outside the game?
steam invites and discord embeds
Hope ChilloutVR does what VrCrap cant do.
i mean, VRC doesnt really "do" much so. who knows
anyone elses social friends list currently not showing anyone or is it just me?
Love how something is always busted in this game lmao
@sharp vale Yeah it doesn't show people online even tho om the website it says yes.
yeah it does on the site
Check announcements
Yeah
They're intentionally doing this so that the rest of the game stays functional
They got all this money now
But like.. why? Lmao. The point of the game is to join friends and shit. So.. why make that intentionally harder?
dude how is friendlists still messed up? like its been a week now
Probably so that the rest of the API doesn't literally implode
It probably will still implode either way but it's the thought that counts
Just a good example of the fact they should work on the API for once instead of constantly adding shit to it
what i truly want to know is. what all the money from VRC+ went twords. like we all know they mad a crap load of money from that. cuz the people wanted them to use to to get better servers and better the game overall. but what has that money gone twords so far?? can anyone honestly tell??? besides crap "small" updates and other stupid stuff. like. where did they use that money? cuz right now. it seems they just pockted it. these problems have been happened for a while now on vrc, even b4 the vrc+ came out. Like at least use the money to better there servers. but it doesnt seem like they are doing anything to better anything besides "small shit" thats my imput.
i dont want to cancel my membership to vrc+ but if things keep going they way they are im seriously about to.
thats my imput
The devs got tons of money before VRC+ too. Everyone knows it definitely did not go to the game lol.
im canceling mine lol like wheres the actual progress? games been terrible
Continued running costs, wages, paying back investors
The recent updates have been quite great honestly 
how bout better servers?
Well I mean VRChat has NO headquarters, I'm pretty sure they run virtual servers.
and no, their address is not an hq, that's where the mail and stuff goes.
Because that stuff is literally required
again. what about better servers??
good question
imagine adding features for invites only to break friendslists and the game as a whole
You didn't understand the feature, did you
doesnt answer my question FPaul.
im going to implode the api

Cus it's been short term added exactly so that the last part does not happen
we get it, you stan vrchat
The game feels like star citizen. Like it’s been in alpha since the start and they just keep adding features instead of working on the backend of things lol

The part about the changes to be expected next week doesn't answere? Okay. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
They should add the new invite icons as emojis for this discord
thats changes man. im actually saying. they need to get better servers. in order to host this many players.
how you think other games can handle so many people in 1 world. aka Openworld RPG's. and MMO's.
"First off, we are aware of what is causing these issues, and are preparing to make some changes to stop them from happening. However, these changes are possibly quite disruptive, so we want to be careful when deploying them. Deploying them on a Thursday or Friday isn't ideal. We're aiming to do this next week."
That part was ment. 
i know this isnt one of those games
but still. yall have the same ammoutn of players
and the same problems have been going on for MONTHS. so are you suprised people are fed up?
they just noticed deploying updates during the weekend isnt ideal? yikes
why you thinkg Chillout VRC was made??
I mean some problems have been going on for years lmao.
Update schedules are all over the place, it's just that a lot of people are finally getting time to play the game on weekends, so they do exactly that.
*plays the game every single day like a boss*
I wish I had the time for that.
switching to online school (unrelated to the pandemic btw) was the greatest decision ive ever made, so much more free time for stuff like that
It's hard for me to focus in online school, so many other distractions.
all im saying is. it seems like a slap in the face twords the THOUSANDS of people who Threw Money at them, and it feels like 0 changes have happened. besides small shit that was not needed at all. the major shit is Better servers to be able to hold the ammount of people on VRC right now, and better quality of life stuff besides the things they have already implamented.
ill def go back to physical school next year if covid isn't still around tho
dont like my opinion. bann me from the discord. im speaking the truth.
id rather they have only patches for a while than any new content whatsoever
Why would you be banned over that.
Tho, since the addition of VRC+ there has been quite some thing's in the patches that have been long asked for
And that is undeniable. 
I’d rather they work on the backend of the game, instead of adding new features.
Sure not all, that'd be impossible. But that's not the point .
Notifications page 
again.
There is more then one person on the team, and they can work on different things.
(And will have different specialities / projects)
Fpaul that may be true, but like, server stability should still be a priority.
Period.
Does anyone have or know of the one red and white color-shifting female avatar on VRC?
so many things that are well known that should be fixed
pringles mics, not being able to use menu while falling, not being able to select someone if the fps is below 20, etc
I just wanna join my friends :C
It’s still a small team. And the game has been in a pretty poor state of stability ever since it’s launch.
But then again, that would be part of the networking team, which doesn't mean the normal coding team wont continue working on other thigns when they can't help out there atm.
you can GET BETTER SERVERS AND DO OTHER SHIT LIKE @brisk shadow SAID. we dont want "features" we want a BETTER MORE STABLE GAME. and right now. ITS BARELY ON ITS LAST LEG.
oh my god i hate the pringles mic
i personally call it the "piss aquarium mic"
i hope they fix it soon.
The game is community driven and made. Meaning they should allocate MOST of their resources to keeping it stable.
I get that, but wouldnt you think they would invest in getting more servers? I know its not cheap by any means because it does require high end hardware, but like, holy. for the servers to go down twice within 24 hours (that one time) its a little dissapointing.
why does the pringles mic even happen, what kind of failure happens in the game to cause that
im done. you can listen to me and the countless others who have been basically yellin at yall on twitter and in here. or just take our money then die as a company cuz so many have canceled there subs. im done. wont be getting on till you fix this shit.
top 10 questions scientists still can't answer
The problem is, you dont just buy a new server and are done with it.
It needs to be properly implemented, and when to this point nothing was made for working of multiple API endpoints (load balanced) then that means you first need to integrate that part.
And doing so properly is important. 
also why does the quest 2 run the quest 1 version of vrchat, its so limited when the quest 2 can handle so much more
Im not saying it couldn't have been done by now eventually, but it's also not as simple as people think it is.
even the controllers show the quest 1 controllers
infact. im leaving the discord. i just wanted to say. what most people dont have the balls to say. yall NEED BETTER SERVERS. INSTEAD OF POCKETING OUR MONEY. USE IT FOR YOUR SHIT GAME.
Probably easier to just port the game over, I imagine in the future it will be improved on the the quest 2
if you fail at your core competencies, the rest of the game fails js
I know it’s not simple. But the issue is the step was never taken, they never took a step in the right direction of fixing things.
Probably because then you'd have to upload for two extra platforms
Making an avatar that's compatible with all 3 pc, quest, and quest 2 would be hell.
It's clearly in the works now. 
I hope they do somehow find a way to do it though
Yeah but it’s what, 5 or 6 years too late? Now that they have a competitor coming in.
I heard someone talking about something being worked on so quest players will be able to see all avatars auto optimized or something? Is that true?
5-6 too late?
Not at all, till recently, the infrastructure held up quite well, didn't it.
At least in that regard.
So you can't blame them from going big scale from the beginning.
True, very true. Is there or will be a point in time that the team will be announcing or discussing the venture of this? (no isnt an option simply because, they absolutely need this, they need to at least make the network sid eof things more stable than what they are)
im not talking about stuff like compatible avatars, im talking about the limits on performance, the default safety should be higher for quest 2 for example because it can handle more
err. No.
Likely next week there'll be some deeper changes.
At least, that's what i'd interpret in the already clear probability of disruptions to the service during implementation of those 
that's.. actually a good idea! you should suggest that on their canny or something.
No. It didn’t. Maybe in the start when there wasn’t a lot. But about mid 2017 to wary 2018, the game started running like shit
pretty sure it's feedback.vrchat.com
at the very least update it to show the quest 2 controllers because even though it makes no difference in the end it bothers me
Honestly I’d love even if it was just the rigged 3d model auto decimated to a low poly count. It honestly sucks that sometimes I go into worlds and can only see 1 or 2 people’s avatars.
I do hope the team understands that the longer these issues persist, the more public opinion goes negative towards them. As negative as ive been, im atleast giving them a shot to implement what was described in the paragraphs ling post that tupper said should result in these mitigations no longer being necessary
How Copy/paste of you. is there a specific announcement they mention this? like I shouldnt have to scroll up very far eh?
I even quoted it earlier 
It's the most recent announcement
oh it is the most recent one, alright
Yeah, the recent info post <#announcements message>
ye
oh and how could I forget to mention
PLEASE, add an option for it to default to "show avatar" so we dont have to select every damn person in the server to see them!
that'd be pretty laggy but still a good idea
Do you know how many times your game would crash when joining a world
Change your safety settings.
or at least make the safety settings WORK, you can turn the safety completely off but everyone will still be "perf blocked"
Itd be worse than a pc lobby of all godfall models
doesnt work
Safety > Advanced options.
oh yeah hat nice pfp
You have Perf. limit set too high.
Tbh it’s especially annoying on quest because only like 10% of the already small amount of quest compatible avatars aren’t poor preforming
hes on quest
artemus, that doesnt work, the majority will still be "perf blocked" no matter what you do and you have to manually turn their avatar on
Oh. Well. That's a limitation of Quest then. 
If that where a thing, people would make even worse content for quest.
And you'd have a even worse experience.
So, the post is basically saying is that For this weekend only, VRChat will be kinda delayed with the notification system and what not?
I'm late to the party so excuse my ignorance.
ye
its not a limitation of the quest itself if theres a button you press to just show the avatar anyway, im saying there should be an option for it to automatically turn that on
Probably a good reason to have that on by default, unless you own the 256GB variant.
I really need a better pc as soon as I can afford one, I currently have a gaming laptop that- actually I don’t even need to continue, just by saying that you already understand
just like, put a warning like "this may cause performance issues" or smth, ez
There is way more info in the post.
This is the key one.
"First off, we are aware of what is causing these issues, and are preparing to make some changes to stop them from happening. However, these changes are possibly quite disruptive, so we want to be careful when deploying them. Deploying them on a Thursday or Friday isn't ideal. We're aiming to do this next week."
The friends list will be a bit slow to update but it’s better than servers crashing
The hint to probably disruptive changes, and putting it to next week is a pretty good hint there'll be something more deeper down that's gotta be worked on / changed.
Together with the friend / history thing over the weekend which also hint's to some server side changes going on right now / the next days.
I have the 256gb quest 2
System going into overdrive.
I dont have the 256gb quest 2, but ive never had any issues showing everyones avatar performance wise unless someone just has a really bad avatar in which case I just hide it, easy
So uhhh is there any specific reason avatar audios don’t play on quest?
Do you have a VR-capable PC?
Might be a dumb question but whatever
Yes, im not at home currently so im stuck with stock quest vrchat for now
good question
You can use developer mode and increase both your gpu and cpu levels
And lower your resolution for more fps
I can’t imagine audios would be too quality lowering
Alright, well thats good to know. Oh, I also wanna bring up a talking point. The VRChat Twitter page. I get it, there are some people that just want to shit on the devs for anything possible. But, I think them turning off replies is a very very very unwise move. I know the team (or at least one specific person on the team) absolutely hates getting bugged with every comment under the sun. this also removes a form of communication with the community And it honestly makes them look like they cant take Criticism too well or at all. (ie: You guys should do better by doing this or other suggestion, DevTeam: Nah fam I dont wanna hear that turns off replies)
oh yeah there really shouldnt be any reason audio doesnt play on quest, I get not being able to see an avatar because the quest reads that code differently, but audio should still work fine
At least on avatars we can see
yeah not playing audio for pc only avatars even if it would work would make sense
ive had a few times where im playing on pc, and someone on quest comes in with a gun, and I have to explain to them that the gun is very loud for us on pc because they cant hear it on quest
Sometimes I just leave worlds because everyone has avatars I can’t see, it’s just disappointing
the pain when you finally find an avatar you really like, only to see that pc only in the top right of it
I know a lot of it is the quest hardware but I feel like the limits could be pushed a little bit more
Audio sources are more expensive than people think, especially so on mobile hardware. On the original quest 1 in a room of 10-15 people audio starts to suffer and performance degrades just from the number of audio sources active for people talking.
afaik the reason some avatars are pc or quest only is because they read code differently, and its not because of performance
Cameras and dynamic bones clearly work on quest, as they’re in a bunch of worlds, so why is the camera feature not available and dynamic bones not enabled on avatars?
There’s probably some game dev stuff I don’t understand behind it
its a design choice to ensure that the performance levels on quest remain acceptable, as giving users free reign on expensive components such as those is not going to end well.
It is definitely differently compiled BUT Quest absolutely needs changed / way differently optimized avatars.
At least compared to the average PC avatar's, which you sadly find, you really REALLY don't want any 1:1 copy of that on Quest.
an unoptimized pc avatar is more taxing to run than a reasonably made quest world
you dont want to be in a room filled with that
they really just need to start giving people the option rather than turning them off completely
like I said earlier just put a "may heavily impact performance" warning on it and be done with it
So taking the model and auto lowering the polygons wouldn’t be possible due to the code being different?
It's far more then polygons
Slap the default shaders on, remove all effects
Key point is also to make material atlases to cut down on texture / mat count.
im at least glad that pc only avatars show the avatar icon on the chest, so quest users can at least tell what they're supposed to be most of the time
I’m no professional game dev so I’m probably just talking nonsense
Other reasons aside, the quest client can't just run a pc avatar because its compiled for the PC platform, and would not run on the quest at all even if you wanted to.
It has to be built and bundled for the android platform in unity for it to load in the quest version of vrchat
All I’m saying is, idc if I see some t-posing 400 polygon avatar with crappy shaders, I just wanna see something other than a room filled with 20 colorful robots
yeah different shades of gray
Haha funny 50 polygon pink robot
Go brrr
for about a month and a half now ive had one of the single most important things you can have in vrchat and its great
a soundboard
How does that work on quest?
Oh
ill be able to use it with vr when I get back home but until then I just use my shitty laptop and play vrc in desktop mode and make funny fart sounds
And bruh sound effect #2
I dont have that
Is vr chat social tab fucked up
ive got several songs from the boneworks soundtrack that i occasionally vibe to though
Yeah it’ll be like that all weekend
I mean vrchat isn't wrong in the fact that I have no friends
Anywho back to ranting about how the quest sucks
But irl and vrchat are different things
I like playing the fart sound and then playing "I JUST SH*T MY PANTS!" with the soundboard
club penguin ET flashbacks
So does the camera just change the camera angle or is there something complicated about it that the quest can’t run?
Aside from making the head of your avatar actually visible locally
oh and another thing I like to do, set the voice changer (I use voice mod for my soundboard) to something really deep and demonic, turn into a small avatar, wait for someone to say hi to me, and then just go "hello" and usually the reaction is great
and then ill usually say something like "yeah yeah my voice doesnt match my face I get that a lot"
I have an avatar of Isabelle from animal crossing but doing a hand gesture makes the face a creepy real dog face and I love seeing people’s reactions to it
I like turning into nightmare fredbear, turning on the deep demonic voice changer, and then just terrorizing people, always good fun
anyone know how desktop players do the hand gestures?
so, are uploads down right now
thanks
Also, which hand does it is determined by either left shift or right shift
oh I didn't know that, thanks for that info as well
Did the friend lists on vrc break again?
yeah for some
related to: #announcements
Golly, they were doing okay about an hour ago- but now it's destroyed
I am on right now using my favorite group to join friends, but I am not able to join some people. Just gotta wait for it to be fixed.
Read #announcements
Anyone on today to film a YouTube video send me a dm and I’ll add u
@meager solstice doesnt say y they rnt showing up
I’m like 100% sure it says why, it may take some reading but in the last few posts Tupper put it does
Hai
Hi
hey so im using alvr anyone might know why every one says i sound like a demonic spawn of satan? like ig my mic is sounding like a really deep quiet voice. This doesnt happen on normal vr chat with oculus but when i use pc vr with alvr it does
observing the locals of void club
@vocal shard what’s “normal vrchat” like quest?
i mean like vr chat using it normally on the quest
i think its something with alvr but i dont know what to do the audi works the microphone works my voice just turns into a demon sounding thing
What is alvr?
@vocal shard does it not do that when plugged in with a link cable? Or on the quest version
wigma no offense not trying to be rude but you didnt know what alvr is i dont think you could help me configure it
@vocal shard I mean kinda just trouble shooting..... I also don’t know what alvr is because I don’t use quest
everyone has the problem
I would also imagine that MOST people wouldn’t know what it is if they didn’t use quest @vocal shard
Aw sad
the friends lists is bugged
T_T
idk what you want me to tell you static tell them to join a world and join the same server
and just join each other like that
I dont have them on discord or anything
I cant rlly contact them anyway I know.
@hybrid bone if u have a vrc account join them from the website it has buttons u can just click to join
O
O ty ima try can someone send link plis
I'm wondering... If I made a MIDI map with a playable instrument, would it be okay to directly use the sounds from one of my purchased virtual instruments?
I own the rights to the sounds, otherwise I could not use them in songs, but copyright sais to not destribute altered versions of the program. Would a VRChat map simulating the VST's behaviour/sounds count as such? :vrcThinking:
goodmorning friends
9am for me, going to bed soon
uff
But yes, good morning ^^
Because there is no prejudice to judge people on before talking to them. You don't see nationality/skin color/religion/etc before engaging in conversation.
Everyone starts on a neutral positive level as "a fellow VRChat user".
To be fair, there is still some cases where there is prejudice to judge people on. Just instead of nationality/skin/religion, it's the platform you play the game on. If you're a Quest user or Desktop user, then there's a chance that some certain people will be rude to you.
i mean, sometimes u are there playing with ur headset, and some desktop users are not there at all, they are doing other things so u get a little bored because they are not paying attention and it's just like a discord call
yooooooooo
and quest users can't see ur avatar so they don't know if you give them headpats and stuff or u want to go somewhere and they can't because the map it's not for quest
i mean there's no need to be rude with them
dude what the fuck
The biggest issue I see with some VR users is when they have a superiority complex. I get that you paid a lot of money for your setup, but it doesn't automatically make you better than desktop users or Quest users.
na they are not better but i understand why they rather to be more with more VR users
for me it's just that they are THERE with you, they are not just using VRchat as a discord call or something, they are there
playing
I mean
You shouldn’t be using a standalone quest for vrchat in the first place, you can’t even get the full experience cause half the worlds you can’t go to and you can’t see the majority of the avatars people use
One of the biggest things I don't like very often when it happens to me as a desktop user is when I want to play a game in a world with friends, we go to play it, they get what they need, I go to get the same thing, but find out that I can't because I'm desktop and I'm stuck just watching from the sidelines because the others are too busy playing the gamemode to realize that I'm not there.
i mean, if that game is designed for VR, what can they do?
they are just enjoying it
it's not their fault
TBH sounds more like fairly bad friends you got
They don't realize at first that it's VR only. They go get their stuff, they tell me to get my stuff, but when I try and can't, before I get the chance to tell them that I can't play it, they're already in.
Is it just a glitch where you turned on avatar cloning then turned it off then someone cloned your avatar and it was off, or is it just some API stuff?
Cause it’s annoying when some little kid clones your avatar and uses it to annoy people.
Or something...
Depends on your budget
Index is the best thing on the market
But oculus quest 2 is the most affordable
Ummm, I can spend like 399$
the most
but like, vrchat, phasmaphobia is on of the games i would play the most
is index a vr headset?
Yes
valve one?
Yes
ahhh, it dosent even sell out in my country..
so the quest 2 is better than rift s u would say?
The quest 2’s front heavy and the tracking can’t see as far around your head as the rift s because the quest 2’s cameras are mostly facing forward, you also don’t have to buy the cable or headstrap to make the rift s better but you do with the quest 2, it all just comes at the base price
So if you have a pc and you don’t have more than $400 I’d definitely say the rift s is the option you probably want to go for
Because with the quest 2 you have to buy accessories to make it a good experience
I have a pc, but dunno if it capable enough...
Specs
You should check that before you’re gonna buy any headset really
I am going to buy a better pc after time, but right now my specs are: AMD RYZEN 3 4300U WITH RADEON GRAPHICS
I play vrchat on this pc rn, and it runs pretty well too
There is an app in steam
Vr perfomance test
Or something along those lines
Download it and run it
You playing vrchat on desktop mode is not an indicator if you can run it in vr or not
VR is another kind of beast, expect to have 3 to 4 times less fps than you have in desktop mode
i will test
Yeah, it isn’t an indicator, for some reason
Despite it being the same game
Vr has to take a lot more things into consideration, so the perfomance takes a hit
im in this perfomance test atm
Good luck
reason being mainly 2 screens and higher resolution. Also this means double the rendering, and additional processing for tracking
I'd say it's a nice feature
When the person doing it has the decency to turn the ping off
to each their own
restart vrc
I could just be stupid because I just got my very first VR headset today (HP Reverb G2), but I tend to float above the floor everytime I go into VRChat.
I've found that a good solution is to go into VRChat settings while standing at a mirror and bump up the user height until my feet start touching the floor again, but it seems to only be a temporary fix and only works if I reset the height back to being short before leaving VRC. Plus it's kind of annoying to keep adjusting it manually.
Does anyone know what causes this/how to fix it?
My vrc "timed out".... WTF????
same
Vrc should fix their infrastructure before anything else
well if you read #announcements they posted about the problems they have been having and what they are doing
You should be able to sign back in fine, believe it was just a hiccup
why reset the height?
Google and Install SteamVR Advanced Settings and use the floor fix and playspace mover options
Thats not the point. The fact is this happens every week should be addressed before anything else
It is
Its not
Cause if I go back into the game later when I don't, the height is set to what it was last, which results in me floating in the air again but at a higher height... And VRC only goes up to 8 feet.
So reset to maintain the ability to adjust.
I mean they literally just made a big announcement yesterday about it
Assuming your height in your Settings menu is your real height, you may want to consider recalibrating your playspace.
Yeah, half the people here randomly disconnected but they all returned right away. anyone should be able to get back in
I'll look into the steamVR adv settings later as I just finished playing and thought I'd ask before going to sleep. (Am lying in bed atm haha).
Thanks for the suggestion!
Advanced settings is like the best thing to have for SteamVR
Gives you so many extra options to fix stuff
I saw u in a world 3 months ago and talked about the audio bug. U said it would b fixed by late February. This shit still exists, plus the regular bs.... why wont vrc admit its wrongs????
there's something about that in the second to latest version I think (in #announcements )
but wtf do you mean , vrc regularly posts about the problems there are
what audio bug?
The crackling bug
you sound very entitled ngl
ok, so let's say vrc admit their "wrongs"
what now ?
It was my real height until I found the "fix"
Calibration for the headset was literally sit it in front of your PC in Windows Mixed Reality Portal (and have it fuss at me cause my play space is too small to set a boundary, it's set for sitting and standing only), and then set whether or not the floor looked the right height.
Had to get an app to allow WMR to play nice with SteamVR as the headset doesn't natively support SteamVR...
Been kind of a hassle for someone who's direct experience is only a couple hours long.
I'm not even sure how to recalibrate play space. And just for clarification, I don't have full body tracking. Just a headset and two capacitive-less controllers
Wasn't there also an audio bug last year with player's mics?
crackling bug is annoying but from what ive seen its pretty rare and only happens when a ton of people talk at once
theres an audio bug rn where sometimes if youre in a world with lots of people who are all in close proximity, the voip system seems to get overloaded or something and cuts out entirely
#announcements >>> Made changes that should reduce voice issues that occur specifically in very high population instances of worlds that use large amounts of sync bandwidth
i realise, I saw
not complaining either really, its a 30 second restart of vrchat to fix it so idc
having to restart is annoying, but maybe they already fixed it
they'll get to it when they get to it. seems to only really occur in super populated instances and at times where most of the people there/everyone is grouped together, so 99.9% of the time its not a problem anyway
they already got to it. it seems
yeah hopefully
why are you complaining about them not fixing an audio bug when you just said less than 5mins ago they should only focus solely on server infrastructure
Oh and thank god for community submitted controller layouts...
The default was absolutely crap, but community submitted fixed all of my issues in terms of that

do you use an obscure controller or something?
HP Reverb G2 and its controllers
oh I've heard people complain about it indeed hehehe
WMR controllers are a bit weird with a lot of VR games right? I've heard some complaints about that sort of thing in the past from people i know that have used WMR headsets
The headset: absolutely balls to the wall amazing
The controllers: pffffft
I mean, minus the clip that's supposed to keep tether wire routed to the back of your head, that keeps popping out annoyingly. About to do some DIY on some brand new 600 dollar equipment and super glue it on.
Also, figured out that if you try using WMR features like seeing and using your desktop while in VRChat, the whole thing crashes and you have to use task manager to even regain control of your PC.
Yea, definitely pros and cons to this whole investment
oh dear, yeah WMR really seems kind of under developed in that way from what I've heard. still, good to hear the headset itself is great even if WMR is a little rough round the edges still.
I mean
It's microsoft
As an IT help desk guy, don't need to say much more than that
lol

just an uh question, would an ZOTAC GAMING GEFORCE RTX 3060 TWIN EDGE OC GPU Be good for VR?
nO
Hey everyone i have made a server specifically made for vrc
Dm if you want to join
if you advertise I will get you banned-
:/
K idk if its against the rules but i dont like it idrc tho either so ima go now ciao
I just tryna see anyone wanted to join relax bud😂
Aight
How you gon try and get me banned if you don’t know rules 😂 kick rocks kid i don’t care what you like or don’t like
Okay
advertising is indeed against the rules tho
I mean advertising is against rules
probably good
Oh and that’s me technically not giving a fuck
Okay then. 
oki, atm i have an 1060 6Gb f
3060 probably quite a bunch better indeed
I heard its overpriced and overrated
My intel I5 and Mx150 8 gb ram works with vrchat just fine
overpriced from resellers yeah a lot, if you can get at the MSRP then it should be fine I guess
1060 is still good at the "bare minimum for vr" spot
I dont have a vr ;-;
it costs as mcuh as my current setup lmfao
well... your setup is probably not gonna do well in vr
Yeah...
i got it in 2018
ima get a I9 with 2070 super in a cuppl months
is that fine for Vr?
Probs the latest one
then good
gonna cost a crap ton tho
oh yes for sure 😛
you could go for i7 to save money
Good idea
my budget is like 2k dollars atm
prices for parts rn are not stable at all
intel's processors are stable soo youre good
Intel>Amd?
No?
both amd and intel 10th gen and 3rd gen processors are in retail pretty much
oh 5600x and 5800x are on retail rn
i use an i7-3770k at and it does alright at vr in general, sorry for jumping in
this is general chat so
I also like to live dangerously
when you say alright, how many fps do you mean?
and also, which headset, and which gpu?
I have its base clock to be 3.9ghz and I'm scared
@vocal shard that’s not that high tbh
thats like ryzen temps
thats normal 10900k unlocked reaches 90*C
has vrchat fix the request invts and normal invts yet
that only has 10 cores while a 16 core 3950x reaches 70*C in all cores ;-;
maybe 5950x too
I wanna upgrade
xD
ryzen 5000 beats intel in single threaded
5950x does hit 5ghz on all cores i think
start cpu burn on my pc and within 2% of it, it will blue screen
but I think its to do with some sort of amd driver cus thats what its saying
ur 3770k 60*C is normal tbh
stock intel cooler not to flex
not really toasty
put that in a 10900k and its Throttle city
Omg
My can't be benchmarked cus it hits ya with the blue screen
if the cpu reaches 125*C I think It just shuts down
Not Stable overclock OOF
100*C??
?
Yes 100*C
Ooof not adaquite cooling
Aio's but their more expensive
but a good air cooler basically the same temps
as an aio
Would it solve the bluescreens tho
A fat stinky air cooler
you can find a pretty small good preforming coolers
I got loads of space in me case so space isn't a worry
lol
i have the test results from steamvr
