#vrchat-general-2
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okay
@vocal shard it’s wireless but limited that way
how?
Don't listen to Wigma
gotta charge it, also lower rendering power
theres other restrictions but those are the two major ones
@pearl loom I was explaining
^
Literally typing out that u can make it wireless and still have the benefits of pcvr but idk how to do that
it's easy as pie
Ik it is
buy virtual desktop on oculus store, connect to pc via virtual streamer and play any games you want via steam
uses pc specs so has no limitations in terms of content you can see
i havent heard that phrase in like 10 years
theres slight limitations as there always will be without a wire, but theyre pretty minor
such as?
and honestly the wireless makes those slight things worth it
My personal opinion is more of skip oculus/steam hybrid system all together if possible
Unless they made it better from 2-3 years ago (I’m sure they did)
why are you saying “such as” as if you’re trying to prove me wrong. wireless is almost always going to lose to wired when it comes to raw performance, whether or not those losses are large enough to be worth considering is the question
You said there's limitations on what content wireless can see, so do let me know some examples of this
They said there's limitations, not specifically limitations on what wireless can see - your experience with Virtual Desktop will vary depending on your wifi's speed, and the latency likely won't ever be as good as with a cable
he followed up my statement of "has no limitations in terms of content you can see" with "theres slight limitations as there always will be without a wire"
as a direct response
so it's implied that we are talking about the same types of limitations
They responded to "it's easy as pie" which was a response to Wigma's post about Virtual Desktop o:
im almost in disbelief theirs 25k people online, i remember when VRC peaked 20k years ago and that was AMAZING
really growing platform
still though im refusing to get VRC+ again until i can load up worlds without getting stuck in menus, the chair host bugs gone, and people dont get the infinite loading bug
all the other kids with the pumped up kicks and all the round out run. outrun my gun.
lol got banned from vrchat on oculus
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is the ban permanent
We get it, ur a child, now stop spamming
ok
Chair host bug is bad
every world should have "turn off chairs" button
i think i got banned from vrchat cuz i cant log bk into my oculus account with it
Probably the most annoying bug I’ve seen
flex tape cant
fix that ^
Unless it specifically states that you've been banned (with a given ban expiry date), you haven't been banned
cuz i was using this demonic type of anime girl that has the knife, satanic ritual and jumpscare scene
and i got put bk to the oculus library
sounds like you crashed - If you're banned, the reason for the ban and it's expiry date will be shown on-screen
it just says couldnt log in
@pliant merlin if ur banned u would get the message u r banned
ok
@meager solstice not as annoying as having to constantly restart when Public world hopping
btw ive been waiting for ages in #avatar-search-old for a wasp/hornet avatar but no one responded
besides its just the one i want
Yessir
why cant i search for avatars?
yo @pliant merlin why did you get banned
no one can sorry man
Avatar search doesn't work the way it should - you can search for avatar worlds in the worlds menu though! c:
whats the reason?
i dunno i kept on using the jeff the killer jumpscare, and then i got put to the oculus dashboard. reopened the game and i couldnt log in using oculus
we arent the devs lol dont ask us
again not a ban, it sounds like you crashed and got hit with a login bug
ahhh ok
oh it just said search for avatars in worlds menu ok
i did that and it came up with worlds not avatars..?
yea you cant search directly for avatars
unless ur on a website and willing to upload them yourself
you can copy some people’s avatars (if they have the setting allowed) or search for avatar worlds
so if im on an avatar world can i save it in my favorites
generally, on avatar worlds there'll be pedestals with preview images above them for the avatars
you can aim your controller at the bottom part and it'll switch your avatar to that one
once you do that you can go into your menu - avatars and hit "add to favorites" below your avatar preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz-5pSCp_bQ 0;18 does any1 knows that world?
are you on the quest version ?
Clear your cache if you haven't already? o:
Top-right of the ingame settings menu is an advanced settings menu, where you can clear the downloaded content cache
i just downloaded the game off steam
oh ok
i didnt notice anything
is there a "downloading" thing and a progress bar above their names
when they load in yes
That's normal, then
cause if you join a server with a bunch of people it might take a few mins to download everyone's avatars
im in this among us game
avatars appear as the blue-diamond guy when they're loading in, until the avatar's fully downloaded/initialized
but im still playing and they all are blue diamonds
and it says they're downloading above their heads?
no
ah
only when they load in and finish
ah ok so this has happened on other servers?
i cleared the content cache so i have to restart vrc?
yup
Yes, you have to restart VRChat whenever you clear the cache c:
its possible they were using the default avatars but you should probably do what this other person's saying
It'd be kinda weird for it to be a cache issue if it's your first lobby though, granted
everyone joins with a color in this among us game
There should be an orangeish progress bar above avatars that fills up as the avatar loads - does that bar move?
You could try reinstalling the game to see if that'd help? o:
ive always assumed its just another vrchat bug that they stay as loading avatars even if the loading is technically done a long time ago
i usually just re-enter that world and its fixed
it was definetly a cache issue
Hey just question, is VRChat having issues again for other people? I can't login anymore.
yo wtf is that
"could not log in, session is running version 5, but the database version is 6"
I think VRChat is still having issues, as I still can't upload any worlds
#announcements - the servers should be fixed by now, though evidently some people are having issues o:
Guess i gotta wait a bit longer
how long does it normally take to get to "new user" from "visitor"
are you using a normal vrc account or a steam account
vrc account
merge it with steam or oculus acc to get there instantly or at least closer
probably like 10 hours without merging given you actually talk in lobbies
Something like that
Just make friends, spend some time, and it'll magically turn blue
it won't take much longer to become user
atleast, from my experience
you will be trusted before you know it consuming your life
I actually got trusted last night, during the API outtage, which was pretty funny, as it kept switching between known and trusted
you will only dwell inside a mirror after turning trusted
^ and don't forget to buy FBT asap
im only known, so there is still hope for me
Don't upload a world, trust me
i want to do avatars
3 years of my life was on VRChat but at what cost
I mean, I got around 700-ish hours, 350ish friends and like 2 models which got me to known rather quick
I upload a world, and boom, trusted
i made it to known with <70 friends, almost a miracle
vrc trust levels work in mysterious ways, just dont think about it
I got known at 300 hundi
And don't forget about the two hidden api ranks
Trust levels don’t mean anything to me
think the trick is talking to a large group of people in pubs and having friends in there
unobtainable nowadays, but still exist somewhere
Honestly, when there's gonna be so many known users and trusted users, they should implement atleast one more rank.
a hard to achieve one
I only think they should add a veterans rank
i merged it with my steam account
people who've played this game for over.. X amount of time, x amount of friends
shouldnt be long then for it to get to new user, the servers dying is probably why it isnt upgrading
^
ok, cool
just wait until the quest kiddo's get the same issue and see them spam here how their favourite game is bad
Lol
guys why am I stuck on visitor?? Ive plsyed myrder 4 n among us for lot of time
Rank takes a bunch of things into account, including number of friends added, time spent in public worlds, and (iirc) you're negatively impacted if you're blocked by a number of people
lol becuase you don't talk with people
I know mutes with trusted status
vrchat is borked
i don't think speaking actually contributes
but speaking helps you make friends, which definitely does contribute
add more folks you think are friendly, whenever you can
you think are friendly?
so most aren't friendly then
!online
There are 26256 users in VRChat currently
dont just add people to add then you will be the guy who comes in here complaining about UI lag when he has 5000 friends
A while ago someone added me and I genuinely thought they were friendly but at the end they said they were just trying to speed run VRChat ranks
Feels bad mang
I don't think 5000 people are active at once
Heck.
can't get in the game
a guy added me and i haven't seen him since
but it's my fault
i feel kinda bad about it
genuinely peeved
What is it doing?
!online
There are 26464 users in VRChat currently
why are you people so damn nice like that isnt remotely your or anyones fault
Also, #user-support-old may be better if you are wanting help with it.
tried so many different ways to fix it and the game keeps launching but never fully starting and having the steam thing in the coner freak out
Can you describe in that channel what exactly it does, maybe show what it does?
well i've never been on at the same time again to catch his status that has a discord invite link lol
I just did
Im super straight pls respect me for who I am
You’re not funny
you've only got so many weekends in your life
don't spend it on weak trolling, go make some content for others to enjoy or get outside and see something new out there 
cant log onto website

soon
does anyone know how optimized unity's built in terrain tools are re: batching? I assume having a fair amount of low-material low-poly trees painted on one terrain is going to be batched well, but i'm not sure if the terrain toolset does things differently
it is
It’s funny cuz today is the National Day of Unplugging when we’re supposed to step away from the digitized realm and take a break from the blue lights
yo, I believe in convincing people using the socratic method
Pls let me have EMFs bombard my cranium
ouchie wouchie, talk about explosions
stop disabling my clash shields
@vocal shard in not trying to be funny or anything I just was coming out im not trolling
@vocal shard leave the man alone jeezusssss
Mods?
Thank you @fossil crescent
@tribal gust why are u mad. Are u mad because we use ur logic against you thats superphobic
I feel so offended right now 😢
Aw look you've gone all quiet
?
Hi
no we just thought you wernt funny mate why you be acting so passive agressive
yall ever just sit on the loading screen for 10 minutes because of the music
The hell is happening here
sounds like someones mad
i'm currently listening to the loading screen music right now
relaxing as hell
ive fallen asleep to the loading screen lmao
sus
@drowsy shuttle oh im not mad sry if I seem to be projecting that
After a while or the loading music repeating it gets pretty bad
I really wish the quest 3 will have better battery
And it doesnt take as long to charge it
i hope valves galea prototype will turn into a fully fleshed VR headset at some point with eye tracking, wireless and BCI
I think they could of slapped a battery to the backend of the normal straps
use a portable charger
I'm gonna order one
if you got an offbrand link some can charge and play at the same time
I also might buy the battery that adds 13 hours to the charge
the elite strap is known to be fragile jsyk
yeah
there's a shit ton of reports of elite straps snapping
Ik my cousins cracked a bunch on the side
is more confortable if it doesnt do that though
oh.
boutta pull a move
kinect full body lul
$100 but the kinect still resells so even if its ass i can get my money back
My friend been using Kinect for a year now
If you have an Index or Vive, don't go for the XBox One kinect - go for the 360 instead o:
^
I prefer Vive trackers but make do with your budget
just file for bankruptcy afterwards atleast you will be bankrupt with fullbody
tundra trackers are coming this year and are apparantly cheaper
kinect is low budget and you can resell it if it doesnt go good
Wait a minute
o shit fr? nice
Ryan is that you?
ye
Holy shit
lmao
Add me on VRChat Snugz スナッグ
im not home rn dawg


phon
What’s your username
LifelessRyan
Damn what a coincidence
For the past 3 years my life has been consumed by this game lol
same ;-;
i spent way too much time in and around vrchat already...
VRChatting has improved my social skills not gonna lie, but my real social life is non exis
Like I just go to work and go home
ive been a mute since i started, and well, i just figured out how to be expressive without talking to others
For sure
i mean, it is useful when my parents force me to go outside again but i dont want to
and talking back to parents is deadly 99% of the time
Can relate, feels bad
its only deadly when u prove them wrong
The one downside is VRChat turned me into a raging alcoholic

am i the only one who cant login to vrchat?
anyone have a tiny male avatar i can copy
Thx 😛
umm anyone ever see this error before?? : Session- is running a version 5‚ but the database version is 6
try another browser, works for me
Or incognito mode perhaps.
im on chrome though hmm?
Opera and Opera GX cant get in, chrome, edge and firefox can
server maintenance
yoo

hopefully that'll fix some of the issues
Hello
hello
wellp i guess i gotta wait an hour to get on vrc now
you guys know fnf?
fnaf?
sorry no
Yepz, It's trendy. But I don't like it.
same
you know I can agree with that
lets pray servers dont die tn 😦
^^^ gl
Hopefully this server maintenance fixes everything for a while
I found this guy with a pico avatar with a voice changer to sound like him, and It sounded so much like pico i kid you not, I could not understand them
when's the server maintenance finished
yes
Authentication is still down for me since yesterday ...
Could not log in - Session- is running a version 5, but database version is 6
is there an api for like friends? id like to write an app that notifies me when certain friends come online
#announcements - roughly an hour from the announcement c:
thanks!
Socials borked?
!online
There are 29642 users in VRChat currently
man, feel like trying to play VRChat these days is just like trying to play Smash Bros online
Is there any Estonians in here?
reu
keep rule 15 in mind o:
Ty VRChat 
?
They finished maintenance
My friends list is still broken ;w;
Try reloading game
oh k
Tried ;w;
Oof, give it a minute to take IG
Ok
pog
yep
Yeah, but, at least they did something about it today. Baby steps are still steps! Gotta keep that positive outlook on it.
yea
is social still broke for anyone?
sad
....
......
Mine is working, try a restart?
I haven’t even been able to log into the game since last night
vrc boke as usual?
Is the Rift S any good for VRchat?
it's currently $100 off on Amazon i'm not sure whether or not i should bite and buy it or continue to save up for the index
Social list was broken and now I'm getting "failed to authenticate with realtime servers"
I mean, do you really want to spend 100 dollars for a mediocre product, or wait for a good product at 1000 dollars.
That's just like your personal opinion
at 299 its not bad but it is def a compromised headset
honestly a quest 2 running link would probably be a better option
Index is known for controller drift after a while and messed up headset cable, But I've heard their customer service is somewhat decent.
What does "running link" mean?
the price jump betweem a rift s and an index is quite large but if you can afford it the index is definetely a way better option imp
a link cavle
Used with a Link cable through your PC
something like this? https://i.imgur.com/LRJLkMM.png
you will be able acess all that vrchat has to offer
It was known for the drift during the first batches of controllers and headsets, the newest batches dont have this problem.
good
that looks like the right cable yea
i would buy something on amazon that says its made for link with the g2
USB-C to USB-C will give better speeds
ik there are a couple optiions under 30
not necessarily
depends on the mobo ports
This is assuming they can run vrc in steamvr with no problems
how powerful is your pc btw?
If you can I would either get the HTC Vive cosmos elite or the Valve index especially if you want Full-body-tracking you don't have to re-calibrate every week or sometimes every day. Best budget option is the Quest 2+link cable if you have the PC to run VR.
yea it is
My specs is: 2060 Super, Intel i5 9400 2.90ghz, 16gb ram
youll be able to run a quest 2 over link just fine but in highly populated worlds with heavy avatars you will experience some low framerates
vrchat is heavily cpu dependant
an i5 9400 will be pretty good but in some cases it may fall behind
2060 super should be fine in most cases
Is anyone else having trouble with their friend list?
yea
That should be fine for VR imo! c:
restart should fix it
🥚
I keep getting worlds not loading & borked friends list ;w; . I think I will try vrc tomorrow dont feel like restarting the game over and over again tonight.
Ah ok, so what i guess i'll do is the quest 2 with link cable
there's a 64gb version for about $400 CAD so i guess i'll purchase that and give it ago
i did want full body tracking but at this very moment playing VRC with some kind of vrset is the plan
sounds about right!
however remeber getting fukll body tracking will become expensive since you also require base stations
^This
and they dont like selling the baystations
i learned that the hard way
Got baystations with my headset^^
best option is to buy them used if you can
Yea, I did see that people are selling full kits for cheap on Canada's version of Craiglist (Kijiji)
i'm not sure if it's best to buy a open-boxed + used version or not
base stations under 80 usd used is worth it
if you find someone selling an entire vive set with everything for under 200 i would jump on that
its the best way to get base stations cuz you get two vive wands incase you want to use them as trackers
so any ways preformance wise for vrc i have index full body and a dancer i still cant pull more then 60 fps ina lobby of 4 and i have a beefy pc i wish i could control what cores vrc uses then i ncould push 90fps
and also youll have another headset you can sell to recoup some of the cost or most of it
what specs @thorny aspen
rtx 2070 over clocked and 64 gb ddr4 ram ryzen 9 3900
friendslist is broken not all friends that are online are showed destroys events...
but is that usa
keep in mind for 200 usd would net around somewhere in the ballpark of 280 CAD
dosnt feel that way here some times xD
lol
some times feels like 400 for 200 here
in that case if you find something under 350 cad it may be worth it
check the used prices of base stations on kajiji too
i bought 2 index head sets one failed but now i have 4 stations to dance with
and extra hands uwu
way too much, about $160-220 @wary ridge
usd or cad?
CAD
about 150 usd damn
u would only be bying the vive for its base stations and wands
that is true
you could sell the headset by it self to make your momey back
ah
thats what im planning on doing
do any of u guys know how to get those like very very tiny characters, like theyre ferrets or cats or dogs- theyre so cute to me pls
20-30h top 20k global and top 600 in my country, lowkey proud
?
@wary ridge so the idea is basically a quest 2 headset + vive's base station and controllers?
you would be buying the base stations for full body tracking
you dont need to get them right away
unless you are also going to buy trackers
which are about 100 ush a pop
usd* and you need three of them
base stations is the better version right?
but if you can wait id recommend waiting for tundra trackers
for now buy the quest 2 and a link cable and enjoy it for a couple monthsd
once tundra trackers come out you can buy those and get base stations
If ya want full body for chan you can also use a kinect 360
I use one and since I set it up right it works rather well for me
you can but its not very good
and unless you use kinect2vr you wont have 360
even then its using skeleton flip
I use k2ex
Yeah
@wary ridge Is the set up for the quest 2 easy at all? Is it just plug and play or is there something i have to set up beforehand like Steam VR?
If you set it up right, the only thing kinect can't do is turn 90° to the side lol
the quest2 is super easy to setup
I can lie down, sit, dance, spin (fast)
you cant lie down with kinect tracking
I can
Well it's more sitting on the floor
I have to sit up a lil but for the most part I'm lying down
I cant login to VRChat, haven't been logged in for ~6 months. When I first tried to login it was some weird message about database 5 and database 6, now I need to verify via email, but I never receive any email
^ Can confirm
How I have mine set up, it's looking down at a 25-30 degree angle so it can see me on the ground pretty well
i recommend joining the quest 2 discord if you ever have any issues with setup they can help you with almost anything @outer ravine
Why is vrchat crashing for me?
You should be able to re-send that verification e-mail. I'd also review this doc to make sure you're correctly for that e-mail, as it's easily filtered out (https://help.vrchat.com/hc/en-us/articles/1500002379242-I-m-not-getting-emails-from-VRChat).
If issues continueeeeee though, shoot us a support ticket to review.
stroke??
yo
Is this a vrc sort of quest 2 discord or just the quest 2 discord in general?
Random question are you guys waterfall or agile?
There might be a quest 2 discord but theres an actual vr discord that covers any vr headset
this is just vrchat as a whole desktop pcvr and quest standalone and whatever else people manage to do to play this game
a quest 2 only discord would be full of kids
@golden scaffold Where can I send a support ticket? I've tried everything to receive an email and it wont work
Welp my game disconnected.....black screen as always...
!online
There are 32408 users in VRChat currently
smh
Well I couldn't remember the command....
Hmm.
can this game stop freaking crashing my audio driver for discord ffs
So when is the friends list issue going to get fixed?
all glitches are features
I think its safe to say we have no clue
it was working but it changed its mind
servers are constantly rebounding
help my vr being slow wont loaqd join button and only loads um online friends
read above
wuh u mean above
new feature, servers broke
discord and this game is for people 13 and up I dont think you fit that requirement
huh?
this doesnt look foreign it looks like a 10 year old
oh
Oh boy
lol
I was on servers las tnight, no problemos
buenos
Thats also buenos for tu
Yeah my opener line is now hey can i have your number. Works 10% of the time
gey guys anyone else familiar whit rift s displayport not connecting
ive got my rift s today ive been trying to get it to work for 5 hours now but nothing is working
its keeps saying displayport not connecting
@south finch keep rule 15 in mind o:
Have you use a connector
not an adapter he said
my bad @noble depot
Ohhhhhh
im just really trying to fix this tbh
you're fine!
I'd probably recommend using a different Displayport cable if possible?
!online
There are 32905 users in VRChat currently
!help
Are you trying to get bot help commands or are you needing help?
I was just curious as to what the bot could do, my bad ^^
I was just making sure.
It's like there's a BOT CHANNEL
looks like the downtime fixed some things, thanks team.

anyone else having weird issues with their friends list? doesn't seem to be loading properly for me
anyone having issues where avatars load as errors, and you cant load into worlds?
Servers are having a bad day.
khello guys!
invite system is not responding.
@runic obsidian
......45 mins and only 5 people on my friends list have loaded wooh!
@vocal shard im watching that guys stream.. kinda hard to understand him tbh.. still alls good
whos stream
Dummy.
yup friends list not loading for me
okay, friendslist has old data, cant join friends. i am pretty stuck
friends list issue has been happening since yesterday. has it been addressed?
nope
still dead here with old list
its gonna be a fat second to get fixed
how do i disable stupid safety mode
idk if its just me but vrc stability is ass right now, usually 80 fps and im on 30fps with barely any people in the instances
go to your shields and hit the none option
hell yeah
Is there a reason on why my friend list only loads 3 people?
Even after many restarts?
server services are not working
^
When will they?
no idea, wait for another announcement
wait it works better than using a cable?
yeah i restarted and social menu is down also uploaded an avatar today, it shows i did on the website but it's not showing up in vrc
Make sure you're using the right Unity version
cause my pc should be able to run vrchat and when I connect the quest 2 the link keeps disconnecting
im using 5ghz internet
I had a friend who uploads avatars often help me with it, she herself doesn't know why it's not showing up
What version of Unity are you using?
Yes in terms of battery. You just need good internet connection
2018 version. the latest one
The latest version is not compatible with VRChat. Read this: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/current-unity-version
yeah im currently doing occolus link via cable for my quest 2, and its dog ass
keeps disconnecting
Yeahh I just don't like being strapped to a cable. Virtual Desktop does a good job
My friends list is severly glitched and I cant join any friends
which cable you using?
servers rebounding back and forth just gotta wait
type C anker cable
Same one I use for charging :lulw:
ah, ok.
i USED. a tether pro orange cable.
"used" because the end fucking snapped in half today
oof
thanks gorilla tag
10/10 would snap another table and risk my motherboard
did your link keep disconnecting while in vr chat?
it disconnected at least once every 30 minutes
i would use VD if my wifi wasnt garbage
I might use it
Yeah ALVR exists but last time I tried it the tracking info being sent to the pc was bad
ah makes more sense thank you.
you can always try VD and refund it if its not good for your wifi
i got friendslist update after cache clean and restart vrchat.
VRCHat issues again ?
isnt there a way to see yourself like in a mirror wherever you go
nope unless cameras do that but thats only in vr
Is VRC working for ppl?
the friendlist does not load, in my point of view
same
same, i thought i was the only one
yeah idk what's going on haha I just got off to let my trackers charge until the social menu is fixed XD
Same, even in desktop mode
my friends list isn't loading
awesome
stop fucking up the game devs
guess that service resiliency didn't really improve
hahaha
Guys please help me i got stuck inside Eren yeager as a giant and i no longer open the menu to change characters. Anyone know how to help me?
Press CTRL and \ (slash key above Enter on a QWERTY layout) to reset your avatar c:
thank you so much
Like down down or just the friends list problem?
down for me
down
anyone elses friends list still broken?
down
It's why I had not joined in tonight. Just to see if it was loading. It's not. Which is 90% of the reason I go on

Btw I dunno if this is known but there's an issue with friends lists not working
^
very known
yes
seevers bouncing around there is no fix
how do i fix the frineds lit
list
I just said there is no fix mate
i just wanted to friggin drink with friends
hihi
eff this "game"
The thing is also that some of the developers are here right? But not really getting any answers if this issue is being looked into
As someone who works as a system administrator at a hosting provider, cut them some slack. It's hard to operate a service at scale.
VRC servers like to act like a sine wave. Up and down...
no after they blew that 10 million on bs im never giving them slack
I would not mind cutting them slack if they would actually address the issues we are talking about
they will forever deny the fact they were given millions
right now it feels like they are just ignoring the issue
do you have sources on what they "blew" it on?
Not to mention, that money's an investment, not a donation - it has to be paid back
well there was some one sayinh that tupper said the got a yacht
that's a meme lmao, and also no source - people love to blame things on Tupper unfortunately
plus, Tupper's a community manager and designer, and not the head developer or anything
still not giving slack and not needing to explain why
My only problem is that, like I said, we have development staff here. That we are discussing an issue we are having, and that they are either ignoring us, or choosing not to say that at least they are working on it.
vrc servers fix when
we need more vrc+ $$$
Servers are being constantly monitored for issues. When there's stuff comes up, it doesn't always need an announcement as there's times when those issues may only last a few minutes or so. That being said, we understand that it's happening frequently and as mentioned in previous announcements, we're continuing to monitor servers and work on them as needed.
A couple staff members were talking for a good couple hours last night as the server went down - also, def see Spark's post o:
afaik the server issues haven't completely ended, rather last night's server issues did
Thank you. I appreciate the response.
yes appreciating the reaponse as well
Yeah that number catches up on you
when normal people give the vrchat team trouble and when vrchat is down they're working it. I feel bad for the team mostly ;-;
lol I think I watched a video on Gorilla Tag, I've never played it
i snapped my link cable playing it
10/10 would snap another
RIP my link cable
2020-2021
times disconnected: 12,307
What's normal? 😉 No I get you. Normally I don't bitch much unless it's to myself. The problem is that this has been going on since yesterday and I saw no real response to this, until Spark said something. Most of it right now, for me at least, is frustration.
I have done tech support, and most of it is trying to gain information to fix a problem that sometimes takes literal minutes to solve
tech support is different than game dev and game servers
There was a lot of discussion and developer responses at around 10 PM CST onward last night o:
I meant it in comparison to solving a problerm
To be fair, if you choose to be a moderator or above, those are the circumstances in big chats
They won't hire sensitive people because you have to take a lot of shit, even if it's unethical.
we are comparing apples to coconuts here
Is anyone else not seeing their friends list or anything social?
It's like working at a store/retail job
Very likely
The customer is always right.
If you fuck that up you won't ever be in power ever again.
Hey I just got my oculus
congrats
I can def say we are as someone who has worked game servers before, they aren't fixable in minutes like other tech problems
Who wanna play when it’s charged
That I did not know. I will take that into future considerations
I can at least promise you that none of these issues take a few minutes to realistically solve. They may affect you for a few minutes and it may feel like we've fully solved things, but these issues are longer-term investigations that aren't resolved overnight. It's a work-in-progress, not a switch we can flip on.
I've worked with coding as an engineer to say they can take a month with how fucking stupid code works sometimes, but they finish quickly to get things back.
😦
Gotcha. Thank you Spark
you ever try to code a "simple" chess program? XD how easy it is to break it with one wrong thing
Speaking of switches, you should ask them if they've tried turning it off and then on again. That will go over well.
Like asking if it's plugged in
No.
Chess is an intricate thing.
Make it as simple as tic tac toe
That shit can malfunction in all types of ways.
why would i pay $10 for broken social tab when i want to attend events
website having issues loading friends
Why pay 10 bucks to begin with if you weren't assured of your business decisions.
No one answered me but i am also so atleast i know it's not just me
It's probably tied into the same issue.
Yeah it's Cloudflare having issues
cloudfart
Yep
Can confirm, it's not just you.
They did fix alot of issues but cloudfare is causing most connection issues
Thank you
my friend appears to be lagging for everyone in vr and desktop yet he doesnt lag on his end. he has good internet and a decent pc
What's his ping? (should be shown in the bottom-right of the menu) and also, what's your ping?
80
his, or yours? o:
please understand
he lags to everyone in any world even if hes not in vr
eyy
Needed to get a new one anyways. My laptop is 5 years old.
congrats, play vr games other than vrc with it atm
Guessing VRC ain't doing so well, huh.
nope.
What happened? People leaving the game?
no just server issues
social tab broke
restarted tame 3 times now
Residual server issues - the game's still hitting 30k+ people o:
in publics
100% is cloudflare problem guys
worlds and avas are working still, but no friends 4 u
Discord is crapping itself
discord is fine to me
socia;l tzab refruses to show whos online
the offline list is only showing 9 out of thee 50+ others
I’ve been seeing a few friends just not the whole list
Question: can gaming PCs run VR?
"Gaming PC" doesn't really mean much - for a bare minimum, I'd recommend a GTX970 equivalent or better and 16GB of ram preferably, along with a good CPU o:
also need to pay attention to the ports to get an adapter
what specs are in the "gaming pc"
gtx 1080ti i9 9900k 32 gb ram is mine i built it lol
my vrchat is broken i got logged out and when i click steam nothing happens and if i click the vrchat login which i dont use it sends me to make acc so whats wrong?
goto searchbar type about pc
Jesus im gonna repeat myself last time it's seems Cloudflare getting DDOSED atm
Nope it worked here before
if it wass ddos the service would be completly offline
well i just used it in public lobby
so bot may be slightly broken
but it works in #vrchat-general-1
Cause of cloudflare
Wow. I am. Not good at specs. But. It's an MSI GF65. Don't know exactly what that means.
is anyone else getting the issue of steam login not working?
Discord/VRChat is running off cloudflare
ddos completly causes full offline tho
When cloudlfare have issues it's also gonna effect VRChat/Discord
i think its just potato srervers
u'd think for as long as vrchat has been around they would get upgraded servers ;l
cus the lag the game gets
The stvers can manage
I think the lag is unavoidable.
is it still the same server issues or are those now new issues?
blame cloudflare xd
Depends on the scale afaik
better more powerful servers wouldm help tho
It's the cloudflare servers being DDoSed
Not vrchat
cus server does lag menus and other stuff time to time
No source on this afaik - also, CloudFlare's whole purpose is DDoS protection lol
proof
anyone having problems getting into rooms with friends e.g not being allowed into rooms or seeing your friends in the social
Ohh ok. J was just going off what other people said i guess i was being kinda dumb
Indeed^
you're fine! c:
it must be the company that specializes in ddos protection
v
and not the guys that have to tweet about their servers having issues every weekend
https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/ no ddos mentiobned
Cause discord having issues i was in call with friend then all sudden boom
Its not cloudflare or you would get thrown into constant login loop
or completly down
So both vrchat and discord connected to cloudflare maybe they haven't spotted it
cloudflare going down is major news, vrchat goofing up is business as usual
Yeah. Another friend was saying they had a bunch of things not work for them that depend on cloudfare just now
This is not really true.
So. Uh. Okay. I found a MSI GF65 i7 or whatever that means. Is... That compatible with VR? I'm just really wanting to finally play VR.
on cloudflare
Said the same for discord when it was down earlier
uhh so im using virtual desktop but my controllers dont show up un game
Will do.
but they show up everywhere else
Is friends lists broken again?
Are you sure it shows your gpu?
yes
I think you can check 'can you run it' online, that is what I use sometimes to compare things if I can run it or not. Should tell you
What model? There's a version with a 1050TI, 1660TI, and 2060TI
1050 TI would be a bit on the low end, but the other two would be fine
@dense hatch MSI GF65 Thin i7 GTX 1660Ti 8GB/512GB Gaming Laptop, 15.6" FHD 120Hz Display, Intel Core i7-10750H, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti, 8GB DDR4, 512GB NVMe SSD, Windows 10
@golden scaffold im just spitballing, wish you'd just announce that its long term broke so i can give up on my event
ur specs based on that model \
If they made an announcement every time there was a server hiccup, everyone would have the server muted
and a gaming laptop runs better pl;ugged in xD\
The friends list issue is a problem, but it doesn't seem to be very widespread (otherwise this discord would be on fire lol)
Same goes for desktops
lmao
That's the one.
That laptop would run a Vive alright, though I can't comment on other headsets personally
That's the exact one I found.
make sure that you aren't getting the 1050TI one, though
You can invite or join via discord or the vrchat website, that is what i have been doing. If your running an event, i assume there will be a discord
It's 1660 TI, apparently.
I’ve been trying to stop biting my nails and I keep finding my fingers in my mouth
yus
What headset are you planning on using?
I don't actually know that part yet.
I tried that and it didn't work right for me.
I'm just glad I found a laptop that can run my Vive for once.
I use an MSI laptop with a 970M that runs a Vive decently - VRChat's actually one of the couple games that runs smoothly c:
so much better lol
portability, most likely
16gb is suitable for VR, though more would def be recommended - laptop RAM can be upgraded later, however
When i was in a world with 90+ people with all avatars on, it was using some 22gb ram
^
Can attest that MSI ones don't from what I can tell o:
others are annoying as u gotta take it appart
mine has 16GB of SODIMM RAM, which can go up to 32gb
also o: announcement
like my gaming lenovo legion u gotta unscrew the bottem cover and theres like 9 screws xC
Yay, announcements mentioned my discord/ website idea ive been using 😄
? which idea
Well I seems I can finally play my Vive now
You can join on friends via discord / steam / the website
Thanks, for the announcement
wish I split my ram into multiple cards I just have a single 32GB sod card
on a positive server upgrades to make them more powerful hardware wise can help with the 32k players makinfg server messup lol
"Server issues" at this point VRC should just say "Hey it's a regular saturday folks"
so the login issues sould be fixed?
Will be fixed
i hate how it makes me relogin lol
It sounds like they are still working on it
better servers that are more powerful can help tho weith the 30k players overwelling them lol if thats the case
yeah, we're still working on it. The announcement should just explain how we're mitigating some of the issues while still keeping instances going, so you can still meet up and hang out with friends once you can get in the same world.
Good luck VRC team.
i wonderr if the servers use 2013 era xeons lol i hope the hardware isnt to old tho lol
ooh, theres a problem
the newer stuff make servers sturdyer than the boarder
VRChat uses AWS and Proton, so likely not old lmao
jk but way more stable
Would a stronger, or more servers help? The way I have been seeing things explained it sounds more software than hardware, or is it from column A and B? I have been looking back over things as it has been explained.
that doesnt mean they dont have intel server cpus
and faster newer server hardware does mae a differance
depending opn cores ram and stuff
more servers deployed = better l;oad balance
i cant hang out with friends because the world filled up
its not the software on ur pcs its all server run games
guys vrchat just wont detect my touch controllers for some reason everything else does its just vrchat
thanks for the advance notice
battery dead?
maybe you should tell people BEFORE peak time that their friendlist is going to break
do you guys not do release notes
It's not necessarily as easy as just throwing money at these issues, they're more complex and usually require some reworking of things so that we can support bigger user load over time.
everything else is work steamvr is detecting it even when i bring up that menu for steamvr they work perfectly but when i tab back into vrchat it just is not there
take out the batterys and put them in again
Predicting server issues isn't nearly as easy as you're suggesting, unfortunately
I appreciate the difficulty of infra upgrades
Okay. Thanks for responding
@noble depot this sounds like an intentional degradation from the announcement wording
then again the hosts internet matters to
i.e. they knew they were going to break functionality to keep services on
which is valid but tell people
they did tell people?
in the last announcement by AEV
What puella means is, tell people before doing so.
they told people just now after I spent the whole day planning to go hang in VR
Not afterwards.
The way I'm reading it is, similar issues were cropping up so they reduced resources going to the friends list handling to prevent the rest of the server going down
hell lately social tabs been drunk at late night on a weekkday anyway
This isn't necessarily the point, sometimes mitigations can be done in the moment as soon as issues come up.
^
Not necessarily "we really hope we can press this button later today".
time to time its wierd how some restarts fix it lol
At least it's not New Years
but hopefully sooon its stable agiain
Give it some time
@compact wedge at least its not pokemon go servers back on day 1 xD
that crap was a potatonightmare
I remember that!
issues are being fixed and its not like you cant play Photon services are still up its just a little more annoying to join people
Discord rich presence is gonna get a lot of use
lol the potato server Memes were great
@golden scaffold but you pressed the button and didn't say anything until lots of people complained
For soem reason my friends arent showing up. Online friends list staying blank tho i know some people are online right now
@golden scaffold your infra team should probably like warn you when they're doing stuff

is proton services a host ?
see announcements
They cant notify of server downtime for an issue that just appeared
do you want them to make an announcement every time they make a server decision that's potentially temporary
they cant predict the future
cus i looked it up it pulled walmart links xD
not exactly sure what Photon does for VRChat specifically, but yes AWS and Photon are used by VRChat
I'd prefer it to having to make a fuss here until they say something
aws? amazon?
Amazon Web Server, yus
Services*
whoop, sorry lol
sigh
Proton?
I think you mean Photon
aws proton
Payed a year sub for this game to always have server issues, and mess up on days i can only see my friends. lol Hope the improve on this by the time my sub runs out.
Photon
heck, photon yes lol


