#vrchat-general-2

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severe kettle
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Mhm I know what I wrote

warm wasp
vocal shard
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fun is over, boys
time to go home

warm wasp
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yea

vocal shard
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Chop chop

dim geode
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i will fight hatred and racism anywhere and anytime

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these children dont understand the fire theyre playing with

jovial kestrel
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Now.

vocal shard
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careful do not cut yourself on that fucking edge, Jesus man

jovial kestrel
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We can turn the page, and talk about cool VRC related stuff in the cool VRC related channel please.

unreal verge
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Windows defender just notified about a Trojaner within the Discord cache lmao

vocal shard
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Yeah let's vibe

cold talon
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lets talk about ik spider avatars

vocal shard
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I hate spiders

dim geode
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i like the mirror feature

cold talon
unreal verge
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I guess i'm nuking the cache

dim geode
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its cool hanging out at them with my friends

vocal shard
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@cold talon no

cold talon
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wanna bet?

vocal shard
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@unreal verge it's useless since you'll get it again as long as that person is using that malicious thing

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@cold talon sure

jovial kestrel
unreal verge
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I wonder from where it exactly comes from. Never had that happening.

cold talon
grizzled drum
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.-.

vocal shard
cold talon
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now we wait 02Bean

grizzled drum
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why?

vocal shard
warm wasp
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🫀

vocal shard
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Oh no

cold talon
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oh well, got the answer, uh

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well, mixed feelings i would say

vocal shard
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Uh huuuuh

subtle tendon
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my windows messenger just crapped itself lol

cold talon
languid beacon
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Wanted to make a robot spider, gave up when I saw how many steps it was

cold talon
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yeah, we have to use a lot of workarounds to get them working sadly

languid beacon
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Friend made a scratch model and I cleaned it up for VRChat, rigged it, then saw how complex the IK process was

cold talon
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but hey if you need help you can always join the spider comunity server

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we have prefabs and all that shizz to make things just a bit more bearable

frosty veldt
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Easy things rarely look as good as difficult things

inner cape
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All you can do is restart the game.

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Cleared your cache?

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The fact that you can't load into any world.

cold talon
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cache is the answer to all

inner cape
nova edge
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i remove my text caz you all are the type to make fun a others ik and i was never here and you never saw me

vocal shard
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Lol ?

river ridge
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I guess that VRC at first takes a look whether the world is already loaded into the cache. If this is the case, it trys to load it from it. If the cache is broken it will not work, but it's still in the cache. Loading-loop...

But this is just a guess. I'm not a developer of VRC so I can just guess.

cold talon
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yes the chache could be corrupted and when vrc tries to load the world it fails

inner cape
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The power of putting dots at the end of your sentence. People are so intimidated they think you're making fun of them.

vocal shard
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Afternoon

river ridge
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But that's not the topic of this channel

vocal shard
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Yeah, should really sleep.

cold talon
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Can make it even more serous if you use a bigger dot⚪

inner cape
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I agreevrcPerfVeryPoor

cold talon
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Such seriousness! such power!

vocal shard
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Incredible.

bold lodge
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hiu

vocal shard
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me and my m8 are looking for 2 british people to play with 11-14(btw were on pc)

inner cape
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Why are you Bri'ish

bold lodge
inner cape
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That's exactly why they shouldn't add it. vrcTrollThinking

vocal shard
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no one is gonna think about the mutes ?

cold talon
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holy

jovial kestrel
robust thunder
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Do you wanna get yeeted?

vocal shard
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oh is it ok

inner cape
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That was the most bri'ish thing to say after being called so.

cold talon
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ban speedrun

vocal shard
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Woahhhh

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Here I’ll help

inner cape
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Very far from WR already, run's dead.

vocal shard
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Np (:

cold talon
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ye need to beat 0.3 sec

acoustic canopy
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yay

jovial kestrel
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How do people know when I leave my PC to get water.

inner cape
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👁️

robust thunder
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Cuz... we have eyes everywhere

jovial kestrel
cold talon
vocal shard
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They closed their eyes put their fingers on their temples, rubbed their temples, and made zoosh noises and had a vision of blind mods

devout root
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The only British who don’t pronounce their T’s are the Yorkies

bold lodge
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i do and im not from york

devout root
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Then you proving my point xD

bold lodge
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frick

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i didnt read prooperly

devout root
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Aye, it’s alright, joys of living all over Britain xD

inner cape
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My condolences.

dim geode
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lame

devout root
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For what? Free healthcare, beautiful country side, delicious fish, the amount of cultures I’ve met?

inner cape
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Yes.

devout root
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Something a tad weird to apologise for

vital sky
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also rain. You can't forget that!

granite siren
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Is the report system automated or is looked at?

ruby needle
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@vocal shard please do not call out names here, there sadly is a big abuse potential to that.
Instead submit a report at https://help.vrchat.com/new so they can be properly handled.

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Dont forget to include a detailed description and proof.

vocal shard
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Thank you for notifying me.

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I have used the link and submitted the report. I hope this stops further malicious behavior.

fervent void
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hi

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i would need help

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when i start vrchat

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it immediately crashes

naive dune
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What platform@fervent void

fervent void
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pc

naive dune
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Your PC most likely is unable to run it/isnt capable of running it

rancid jewel
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yea

fervent void
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i can run any other games

naive dune
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Is this your first time playing or have you been playing for a while?

fervent void
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i have 115 hours in it

rancid jewel
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try uninstalling and reinstalling

naive dune
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Yeah

gaunt hazel
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nah just verify the files

fervent void
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i did

rancid jewel
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well fuck

gaunt hazel
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00f

fervent void
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it still crashes

naive dune
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@fervent void most likely not enough storage or CPU to run it, try uninstalling games that you rarely or dont play

brisk shadow
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Do I have to keep VRC+ to keep the early supporter badge? Or can I get it once and it just stays forever

rancid jewel
inner cape
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Don't fall for it.

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🎣

rancid jewel
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fall for what

inner cape
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VRC+

rancid jewel
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lol

naive dune
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Yo are there any popular comedy clubs i can go to?

rancid jewel
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open mic night

naive dune
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Ah thanks

brisk shadow
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i mean I dont want to give them money they dont need. Or support devs that i feel dont really put enough effort into their game. But, I like having permanent badges lol

inner cape
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That's exactly why they put it there.

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🎣

dim geode
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jerk

naive dune
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@dim geode shut

inner cape
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Thank you!

rancid jewel
vocal shard
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Might want to cop vrc+ badge while it’s still a beta ish

rancid jewel
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yeah

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gotta have that bragging rights vrcLaughing

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ᵈᵒⁿ'ᵗ ᵃᶜᵗᵘᵃˡˡʸ ᵇʳᵃᵍ ᵗʰᵒᵘᵍʰ

fast flint
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Does anyone want to play?? I don’t have any friends on pc or vrchat:(

rancid jewel
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i'm not able to play right now, but i can add you. whats your vrc username?

fast flint
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ItsQueenEm

rancid jewel
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alright i sent you a friend request

vocal shard
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Ironically if I want to talk to people I do desktop vrc instead of actual vr

fast flint
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I do desktop

vocal shard
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I know but just a thought

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I’ll probably add you later also ig

unreal verge
rancid jewel
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rip

vocal shard
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Didn’t even know that was a thing

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Ironic innit

unreal verge
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But anyways. Early supporter badges just attract scammers. I've to deal with them because of my badge too often.

rancid jewel
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😬

vocal shard
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Yikes

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Interesting

rancid jewel
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that's a big yikes from me chief

unreal verge
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I disabled DMs. But one time i activated them temporarily and got contacted by multiple scammers within these few hours.

rancid jewel
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shoutouts to that one time i forgot my dms were open on a large server
i got like 5 dm advertisements within the span of 2 hours

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i only have dms open on this server because you know
this server isnt dumb

vocal shard
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I have my dms open and I talk a decent amount in here

unreal verge
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I'm in one Fortnite server. Listed at almost the top. Also doesn't help much lol

vocal shard
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Don’t get spam at all

rancid jewel
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i talked in the minecraft discord server once and almost instantly got a dm advertisement

unreal verge
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I usually get scammers either from here or Discord Testers.

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They scramble the member list for people who either have Steam connected or a early supporter badge

rancid jewel
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dang

unreal verge
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In my case it's both

rancid jewel
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yeah thank god i disconnected everything from my discord long ago

vocal shard
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It seems you're trying to start an argument.

deft trout
dim geode
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i'll report people doing it in pubs

robust thunder
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I agree and disagree

rancid jewel
dim geode
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TOS or not there are literally toddlers running around this game

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so keep it clean

rancid jewel
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yeah

ruby needle
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TOS wise it does not matter if it's in private or public.
Even if you are in a invite only instance with the other and they decide to report you then that can/will lead to trouble for you.

dim geode
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yeah, that's similar to our IRL concepts of consent

rancid jewel
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that makes sense

dim geode
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no one at walmart consented to seeing your naked body

regal furnace
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yet there are still people who dont care

vocal shard
robust thunder
deft trout
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I agree to not do nsfw stuff public but private is alright in my book

robust thunder
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hehe

dim geode
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the system works

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no offense meant, just doesnt sound like your cup of tea

robust thunder
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It's like the other day I saw a furry with a d-

vocal shard
robust thunder
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Was super weird

rancid jewel
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i kept seeing that one avatar with a massive "part" during the new years eve event

vocal shard
deft trout
robust thunder
inner cape
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Promoted from mirror dweller to mirror erper. 📝

vocal shard
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😂

robust thunder
inner cape
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Alright, Maxim.

dim geode
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use your imagination

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just don't ban it

robust thunder
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Just don't use too much imagination

vocal shard
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This game was never intended to be nsfw, The community is just gross frogspinny

robust thunder
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Cuz then regret

cold talon
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Wait who got promoted?

vocal shard
robust thunder
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It's hard sometimes though

vocal shard
inner cape
vital sky
vocal shard
cold talon
rancid jewel
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people get access to tools to make stuff and they make nsfw
it will always happen eventually because there's always gonna be people who are dirty minded

tender flare
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hi

dim geode
inner cape
unreal verge
vocal shard
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Or you become their friend then you can act like you're joining the party then booom

ruby needle
unreal verge
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I don't even want to be in their lobby while they are doing it

cosmic shale
unreal verge
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But i saw people doing it in public. I was very happy they were just robots for me due to my safety settings

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What do people have against people that like mirrors though?

vocal shard
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people keep on bullying me cause im on computer and not a vr .....

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and im mad

unreal verge
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Just block them, not worth it

vocal shard
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i dont know how

unreal verge
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Click your esc button then look at them until a bubble appears around them, click on them and select block

vocal shard
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oh ty

rapid pasture
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is there a way i can ask people to play with me? i hate playing alone. its always boring to me

vocal shard
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you would need them to be your friends

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on vrchat

sand sand
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Oh gosh-

rapid pasture
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i meant is there a channel on here to ask

vocal shard
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idk

unreal verge
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No

vocal shard
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i just got here

rapid pasture
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well crap

vocal shard
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i can play later

rapid pasture
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my friends in school so i have to wait

vocal shard
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im in school

unreal verge
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I got my friends in worlds

rapid pasture
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so go around inviting people? lol

unreal verge
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Yeah

vocal shard
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yep

rapid pasture
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fair enough. thx

sand sand
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Basically-

unreal verge
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I have a close friend group now

vocal shard
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go into worlds and drop portals

robust thunder
thorny iris
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Where do you report a bug because the vote kick notification is broken

robust thunder
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You can make a ticket

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But how is it broken?

vocal shard
winged spoke
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Why are there quest only avatars ;-;

thorny iris
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You can't click on it

vocal shard
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Why are there pc only ones who knows

robust thunder
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I see

vocal shard
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i want a hug

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can i have hug

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hug?

winged spoke
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I understand pc only avatars but what im saying why is there quest only avatars

thorny iris
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where do you submit a ticket?

robust thunder
vocal shard
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ty

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for hug

dim geode
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@winged spoke they have to be compiled for both targets

winged spoke
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Hmm

vocal shard
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Ion but quest and pc avatars are great anyone who makes a low poly quest variant so quest users don’t see robots are the real gs

winged spoke
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So uploaded to windows and android?

robust thunder
robust thunder
dim geode
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right, i dont think any android avatar wouldn't compile for windows though

vocal shard
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Yeah I’m pretty sure it doesn’t but it’s rare to see only quest avatars anyway

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For me at least I only find quest and pc ones

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When do y’all think vrc will be on psvr or do you think it will ever happen?

umbral reef
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Avatars uploaded just on the andriod build of unity wont show up on PC yea
Nothing the team can do about it really

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Wont happen

vocal shard
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Why tho, they would be bringing in a lot more people

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No never please

umbral reef
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Playstation isnt a fan of people uploading unmoderated content into there game
Would be even another platform to maintain and build for, what isnt easy and it being a really different platform then PC or even quest makes it even worse.

vocal shard
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does anyone know any good matching couple VRchat avatars? trying to get some for me and my boyfriend as a surprise <3

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No but I need to think of that shi

deft trout
dim geode
vocal shard
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That’s true @umbral reef haven’t thought too deeply about that

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Thanks for the point

dim geode
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yeah, do that then 🙂

umbral reef
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There are a lot more deep going reasons why its highly unlikely but those 2 are the most easy to grasp

vocal shard
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thank you!!

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I mean they still haven’t ruled it out tho. In fact they stated that they are considering it

vocal shard
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Idk, it just seems like PlayStation would be missing out on a huge opportunity to grow a vr player base

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Social vr is a vital aspect of the vr industry

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Nah I'm sorry but I wouldn't want vrçhat to come to playstation the PlayStation community is already toxic as it is ESPECIALLY the pathetic console war

dim geode
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I welcome all joiners

fickle spear
vocal shard
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Lol I mean, you got toxic people on vrchat already. I don’t know how many times I hear racial slurs

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Fair point

sly edge
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Imagine having hidden ranks in a game about being social. This is slowly turning into a high school simulator lmao.

dim geode
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the extra ranks being hidden seems more like a UX issue to me

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they'd have to add more messaging about trusted vs veteran, add an additional tab to the safety manager... just a pain

sly edge
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a pain? they have no excuse for not fixing stuff since they made this game public.

dim geode
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i have lots of excuses as a developer

hexed owl
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If anybody knows of a world with Dr Stone avatars @ me cuz imma need that 🥺

sly edge
dim geode
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feature is hidden, ticket closed

sly edge
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plus. e-girls and e-boys block anything they don't find personally attractive even if it's optimized and has no actual problems. (they make up a majority of this game)

umbral reef
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Not sure how them not using a rank but not blocking it from the API is anything bad

sly edge
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from what i got told. if enough people block your avatar then you get a nuisance rank. why would this at all be a good idea when most of this game has people that block you just because your avatar is not appealing.

dim geode
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must be a nuisance

umbral reef
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Odd that those people know how the system exactly works when literally only a handfull of devs know and not even all devs vrcCatThink

sly edge
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it says it on the site?

umbral reef
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Almost like just some blocks arent enough to get the rank

static flax
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It does? I gotta see this

sly edge
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"However, we don't recommend using this setting unless you trust everyone in the room. This does not affect Nuisance users"

dim geode
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the system works, i tried unblocking a nuisance once and immediately had to block them again

umbral reef
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Thats if you got the rank, not how to get it 🙃

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You really dont get nuisance from just 'some' blocks
Its an extreme amount of everything needed from personal experience
And the fact the rank is so extremely rare should show you that too

sly edge
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whats the number of people blocking you that causes the rank? cause i aint going into public worlds if its easy to get. i just wanna have fun. not have to worry about random e girls getting triggered just cause im wearing a low poly link model.

static flax
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"only a handfull of devs know and not even all devs"

sly edge
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oh ok

umbral reef
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That and its an insane amount else literally everyone would have the rank kekw

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Its harder to get nuisance without being banned for breaking the rules then to get any other rank

sly edge
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got it

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just gonna make sure to not go near those e-girls / e-boys. yuck.

rancid jewel
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good idea

lime thorn
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cringe

fickle spear
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idk about that but what pisses me off that you have to have certain rank to make your avatar

lucid sierra
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Uh oh eboy alert

sly edge
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uH oh

lime thorn
vocal shard
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Do u get that rank from overall bans or do you have to get it by a certain amount of bans before a certain time?

umbral reef
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The rank aint hard to get, if you play for a while, dont hide away in a private corner not talking to anyone at all it might take longer to get.

sly edge
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🗡️

vapid coyote
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I am looking for 3 ppl who are willing to play trouble in terrorist town in vrchat. Trying to see how good it’s made

static flax
fickle spear
static flax
fickle spear
umbral reef
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No the uploading rank

lucid sierra
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From what I remember I had a friend that got it just by being a buffoon

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The nuisance rank

rancid jewel
sly edge
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aka actual cringe

static flax
umbral reef
rancid jewel
lucid sierra
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I lied, it's more than that now that I remember

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Honestly it wouldn't be the case if the devs optimized their game more

rancid jewel
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unity

sly edge
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you can optimize a lot in unity

rancid jewel
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also it's more on the creators side of things because well
they're the ones making most of the content, not vrchat themselves.

vocal shard
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200+mb avatars ugh

sly edge
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then why does it take a huge amount of cpu usage just by starting up the game

rancid jewel
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good question

vocal shard
sly edge
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then the game isn't optimized now is it?

lucid sierra
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Exactly

umbral reef
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Almost like its a game that runs on Unity and not some magical space wizard software 🤡

rancid jewel
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granted that is true, but at the same time, it's the players who make most of the content.
also, unity. lol

vocal shard
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While in the home world, I get excellent performance but when I go into a pub world there are tons of shit avatars and it lags out the game

umbral reef
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Ofcours it will boost your CPU usage when loading in as its loading kekw
The game runs damn well if people stop eating so much glue and dirt and optimized there crap

lucid sierra
sly edge
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i've seen a lot of optimized games with unity

rancid jewel
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dynamic bones run on one core

lucid sierra
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Phasmaphobia runs smoother than VRChat

sly edge
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exactly lmao

umbral reef
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You can literally right now run events with 30+ people on 'normal' VR gear without a problem if the world isnt packed with scripts or udon actions and people have a medium or higher performing avatar

vocal shard
static flax
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That's the one thing I've never understood is why VRC doesn't do multi threading.
I'm sure there's a reason, just curious why
Other then that, yeah it's player content pls

lucid sierra
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Yes. I am.

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They're both Unity games, are they not?

umbral reef
ruby needle
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Quite a lot even. Just some things are technically limited.

lucid sierra
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I'll use another game. What about Ori and the Blind Forest?

vocal shard
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Does phasmo have unoptimized worlds and shit avatar and 30 people in one game? @lucid sierra

static flax
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🙃 I have been informed wrong, excuse my stupidity

lucid sierra
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Wow, the chat mod decides to talk now because everything before was right?

vocal shard
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?

lucid sierra
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Does Phasmo take up a huge amount of CPU when loading?

static flax
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I didn't know Ori had player generated content with no limits

umbral reef
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The chatmod has a life and isnt in discord 24/7 🤡

lucid sierra
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I don't think so.

vocal shard
cloud sphinx
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weeeeeeeeeeeeeee

lucid sierra
rancid jewel
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one time i went to party with 40 people in one vrchat world
man do i love 20 fps

lucid sierra
rapid pawn
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mfw when someone compares a unity game with no user content to the literal wild west of user generated content

rancid jewel
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^ yeah

vocal shard
umbral reef
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But for real dude, go into the game, use a well optimized avatar and look at the frametimes unity uses
Then go to a world with lots of udon scripts (game worlds often do the trick) and compare again
Then repeat with a shitty optimized avatar infront of a world (add lots of dynamic bones for a clear example)

lucid sierra
static flax
vocal shard
sly edge
lucid sierra
umbral reef
static flax
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y i k e s

rancid jewel
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learning 😱

/s

rapid pawn
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KuramaFenixiosoToday at 11:51 AM
Does Phasmo take up a huge amount of CPU when loading?
Seems pretty clear cut to mer

vocal shard
sly edge
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my god this descended into chaos. aight im boutta head out.

lucid sierra
lucid sierra
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There have been servers where the max amount of players is BEYOND 4.

umbral reef
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Also Phasmo doesnt use all CPU available to load because it doesnt request it
Not really a form of optimizing and more kind resource mangement

lucid sierra
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Adios muchachos, send my condolences to the devs that know that most mod clients shouldn't be banned in a game with no actual endgoal

vocal shard
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clown

umbral reef
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So sad corona didnt shut down the clown schools man

rapid pawn
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We really have a great community I love it here

vocal shard
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Very sad indeed

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i need some help people

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i need to find the idiot brush skins that the boys wear

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does anyone have answers?

rapid pawn
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Go to avatar menu and it'll be there just scroll

rancid jewel
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pretty sure you can find that on the public avatars section in avatars

vocal shard
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the stupid ones?

rancid jewel
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o

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i dunno

vocal shard
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oooooooof

dim geode
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oof

vocal shard
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Save up

dim geode
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do it

slender snow
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anyone know how i can be allowed to make custom skins?

vocal shard
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Do it I'm saving up to get one which will be next week 🙂

slender snow
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how do i get trusted?

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i need to be trusted to make skins

lime thorn
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like a trusted user on vrc?

slender snow
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do it its so worth it even a quest 2 is worth it

slender snow
lime thorn
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i have a quest one...is the 2 worth it?

lime thorn
vocal shard
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The quest 2 can do both

lime thorn
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that’s how my friends got trusted

slender snow
slender snow
lime thorn
#

hmmm, i’m gonna save up for a pc vr headset then

slender snow
#

good idea

#

quest 2 can do pc vr tho too if u wanna get that

vocal shard
#

^

lime thorn
#

yeah

#

but if i want a pc vr head set i might as well go all out

#

gets katwalk

vocal shard
#

To me it's just wasting your money cause cause too is cheaper and you can use it on pc but you do you I guess

#

Quest 2*

dim geode
#

quest 2 is best value headset right now

vocal shard
#

^

rancid jewel
#

yea

vocal shard
#

anyone know if the htc vive cosmos needs a base station on top of the 700 euros it already costs ?

dim geode
#

if youre 100% wanting full body tracking you might want to get an index since it comes with the base stations

vocal shard
#

ugh that quickly becomes expensive lol

dim geode
#

i guess some newer vives use inside out tracking?

#

tb looks like you dont need base stations for the cosmos

vocal shard
#

"refined inside-out tracking" and "base-station free" does that mean I can safely purchase an htc vive cosmos for 709 euros without needing ANYTHING other than my pc ?

dim geode
#

thats what im reading

#

i think youre good to buy it

vocal shard
#

I'm so nervous about buying a vr headset because of how expensive they are and how critical people seem to be about each brand

dim geode
#

you should get a quest 2, much cheaper

vocal shard
#

I'm not okay with the whole facebook thing to be fair which is why I am looking for other brands

#

Bruh

dim geode
#

ok then i think cosmos is your best bet

unreal verge
#

If i would have the money i would go straight to Index

#

Currently it's only a future goal

dim geode
#

yes, if you want full body tracking in the future youre eventually going to need base stations, which are included with index and cosmos elite

#

so you arent saving too much in the long term by getting a cosmos now

vocal shard
#

I thought the other day people were dogging on the cosmos elite

dim geode
#

yeah, id recommend index over that

vocal shard
#

index requires stations as well right ?

dim geode
#

correct

rancid jewel
#

yes

dim geode
#

the index may get a refresh soon, its been out for 2 years

#

that would be my concern about spending full price on it

vocal shard
#

so with a basic cosmos without bases, I could play VRChat and other basic vr games that allow you to use hands and move your head ?

dim geode
#

yessir

rancid jewel
#

yes

vocal shard
#

Technology is always moving forward. They already announced they're working on quest 3

#

And I would not get the cosmos

#

would a 2060 rtx and a ryzen 5 3600x be enough for that ?

#

Normal or elite

#

Yes probably

vocal shard
#

You'd get normal or elite you're saying or would you not get either ?

#

Normal has broken tracking. Not just normal inside out issues, but an actual fatal flaw with the tracking

#

I had the elite with steamvr tracking, but the headset itself is a real let down

#

I don't see any real good alternative to those except the steam vr headset but it is so expensive

dim geode
#

yeah, quest 2 or index are the best options right now

tawdry kayak
#

when do you get new user rank?

vocal shard
#

The cosmos and cosmos elite have really bad optics. They're using lense technology from 2016, but they lenses are so far away from your eyes and non adjustable that it makes the sweetspot tiny, and the fov less than any oculus headset. Even if you remove all the padding and push the lenses closer, then you just see back bars on the edge of your view because the physical display is too small

#

so then I should just wait a few years until we get proper vr headsets ?

rancid jewel
#

we already do have proper vr headsets

unreal verge
#

There are already good ones

unique plaza
#

Here i am with my new Quest 2, and then im told there will be a Quest 3

rancid jewel
#

oculus quest 2, valve index, hp reverb g2.

vocal shard
#

Really, other than the Facebook requirement, the oculus quest 2 is one of the best deals in vr right now

vocal shard
#

but facebook sadly

rancid jewel
#

then get the hp reverb g2

vocal shard
#

There's also the HP reverb

#

is the hp reverb good after all ??

rancid jewel
#

it's actually cheaper then the cosmos

vocal shard
#

Best resolution of consumer vr

rancid jewel
#

also yes, the controlllers just have no touch sensors so you cant do specific gestures, although i assume you can just use different controllers with the headset.

vocal shard
#

A number have upgraded along the way to use their hp headset with index controllers

#

I'd get an oculus if it weren't for facebook

#

But that's more of an endgame setup

rancid jewel
#

just don't post anything on the facebook account you use for the quest 2

vocal shard
#

I don't get why people have a problem with facebook lol

unique plaza
#

How do i switch the movement settings for Vrchat

vocal shard
#

Scummy company

unique plaza
#

Should not have used my real FB account

languid beacon
#

HP Reverb has the best resolution but the controllers don’t have any capastive touch, so no finger or hand pose detection in VRChat

vocal shard
#

Every company is scummy

unreal verge
vocal shard
#

It's more the ethics. People say it's due to how they sell your data, which almost every major company does now. But it's what facebook is into, and how they try to manipulate and experiment on their users which puts me off

#

No every company isn't scummy, facebook takes the cake there

#

The fact they force it on you with such a low price makes it too obvious

unreal verge
#

Facebook gets shit on by Germany

unique plaza
#

Tried googling how to switch VR chat movement from the stick to immersive movement

vocal shard
unique plaza
#

came out with nothing

dim geode
#

@unique plaza disable "holoport 3p" on settings

languid beacon
#

Wait to see if Facebook changes their policy before Quest 3 is announced later this year.

unreal verge
#

Facebook already avoided to sell Quest 2 in Germany and they still get after them

vocal shard
#

You can't just force people to use a social media account to use a physical device that can get bricked if you want to stay anonymous while playing

#

I'm curious how decagear will be
.. like the devs seem genuine and passionate... But some things just feel off

unique plaza
#

I got mine from Germany... Amazon that is

vocal shard
#

I mean you can, they literally proved it, but the ethics there are hellish

rancid jewel
#

if you don't want oculus and the cosmos is shit then just get hp reverb g2 and use that with like vive wands or something

languid beacon
fresh field
#

Hi. I have an apple computer and an avatar file. Can anyone upload the avatar file to VR chat for me? please. My apple computer can't run unity.

vocal shard
unique plaza
#

@dim geode Ah yes this is the feeling of sea sickness i wanted. Thank u

fresh field
vocal shard
#

I still don't use twitter tho lol

languid beacon
#

I have a Twitter since many other sites let you log in with it, and they are less omnicorp than Google

unreal verge
#

You may get banned on Twitter for dumb reasons too though. But at least there is a reason unlike with Facebook where they ban you for just existing.

rancid jewel
ruby needle
#

It's not "bricking" tho, that is the wrong term. cirSlain

dim geode
languid beacon
rancid jewel
#

yeah

languid beacon
#

More than one Facebook account is a violation of their TOS

dim geode
#

ah, its the only account i have

vocal shard
#

and that's what the issue is

languid beacon
unreal verge
#

Yeah if you get banned on lets say Discord you just create a new account and you are good to go. On Facebook ban means lifetime.

ruby needle
#

if you get banned on Discord you are also breaking rules by making a new one.

#

As on nearly any platform.

#

Ban evasion is not permitted anywhere. 😄

unique plaza
#

@dim geode I dont get the sea sickness as much when i stand up. but i do feel like im swawing back and forth like a rocking chair

ruby needle
#

But you sure can have a alt if your main account is not banned in Discord.

umbral reef
#

TBH my main problem with facebook in VR is that they have stated they want to become a market leader.
That means that they will leverage there close to unlimited wealth to become a leader in an industry that doesnt just need short therm investing but long lasting inventions and options.

vocal shard
#

welcome to black mirror

dim geode
#

the hardware is good. i wouldnt buy anything through the oculus store though.

unreal verge
#

Everyone i know who got banned just created new accounts and are fine. Discord doesn't hunt these people unlike Facebook.

languid beacon
ruby needle
#

Which is a good thing when it works right, but a bad thing when it doesn't

unreal verge
#

Yeah in case of Facebook it's not good

vocal shard
#

People will end up regretting getting into that once the time comes anyway

tacit plank
#

Nothing about Facebook is good

unreal verge
#

I don't remember one good thing that Facebook did

abstract citrus
#

ayyo weird tech question, my game well in vr mode, is stuck on the mode where i have to push the joystick in to move, how do i change that?

tacit plank
#

Those who don't hate Facebook now will in the future

#

The exception is maybe 5% of people beyond repair, those types already exist

#

They back those up who seek to exploit them. Very hard to cure

umbral reef
#

Just 5%, damn caffein, stop making me look doomer

vocal shard
#

There's just no hope in humanity tbh

#

people fail to see what actual technological advance is and think linking social medias and online to everything as a good thing

tacit plank
#

You can find material which suggests that Facebook are breaking the law and asking minors for sexual images and other such things

umbral reef
#

Your saying my IOT toaster, bathtub, doormat and toothbrush are all not needed?

tacit plank
#

They had a survey where they asked if people would allow nudes of 14-year-olds, even

vocal shard
#

yeah okay though lets not get into conspiracy theories LOOOL

tacit plank
#

I hope such things will make even 95% realize that they're bad

#

There's no conspiracies, these things are all common sense to anyone who is tech savvy, you're only outing yourself

vocal shard
#

wait what

dim geode
#

q has entered the chat

vocal shard
#

🤣 👌

#

Q anon be like

#

I mean I hate facebook and think it should be banned for data stealing reasons n shit but to say they are ****philes no man 🤣

umbral reef
#

Facebook working together with Cambridge Analytica (now Emerdata Limited after they got found out) should just be enough TBH

tacit plank
#

Google "Facebook asked users if soliciting sex pics from kids should be allowed"

vocal shard
#

and you call that tech savvy

#

Lol

dim geode
#

you can link me

tacit plank
#

Asking users if pedophilia should be allowed on their site is pretty stupid to me, and I don't know how you'd defend such a mess

#

I can DM it, but you'll find it if you Google that line

#

I don't wanna spam links and such

dim geode
#

uh huh

vocal shard
#

See that's the problem with you people, you can't wait a single second and start thinking without jumping to conslusions and acting like we're defending anything

#

Facts people be so sensitive

#

Well.. sure is too early for this line of conversation.. I need a coffee.

#

I see a single picture with a survey on it and there's barely anything else on google about it but meanwhile if I show you footage of trump literally being homophobic you would say fake news

dim geode
#

yeah screw facts, im gonna need you to know my feelings on this

vocal shard
#

what was the exact polling question because im looking for it and I cannot find exact quotes

tacit plank
#

It's quoted directly in the article from miamiherald which should be one of the first results

dim geode
#

cite your sources

vocal shard
#

yeah especially when your throwing around big boy words and mega fat slander

#

wait is this for me or ? lol

tacit plank
#

Facebook themselves

#

Thehill has an article called "Facebook says asking users about 'sexual pictures' from children was a mistake". If they admit it was a mistake, why would you need proof that it happened originally?

umbral reef
#

Photo of the questions and all

vocal shard
#

Lol 😂

#

Nah I bing things mate

tacit plank
#

This is one thing which looks bad. Most of us know 100 things like this, and generally distrust Facebook as a result. Your lack of experience and interest in unethical behaviour doesn't mean that it doesn't take place

vocal shard
#

relax it is just surprising that this would even happen am I not allowed to be skeptical

#

this does not happen everyday

umbral reef
#

Its more like a monthly event if you follow the news\

vocal shard
#

Problem being there's like one picture of it and all other articles have none lol

#

Chanandler bong

dim geode
#

if you're gonna debate, bring your sources. i don't have to google your shit

vocal shard
#

I was googling I said I was looking in a earlier message?

tacit plank
dim geode
#

that's the stuff

vocal shard
#

Facebook go brr

#

Jesus that's alot

#

thats juicy right there

tacit plank
#

It takes like 2 minutes to find. In the future you might not be able to find it at all, but we'll take that when it comes. And that's only until 2017, there's even more afterwards

umbral reef
#

Also thats not even all
Far from it

dim geode
#

so find it and post it yourself next time

umbral reef
vocal shard
#

so why are y'all buying oculus lol

dim geode
#

welcome to your cyberpunk dystopian present

vocal shard
#

Cause it's cheaper plus I don't have rich kids money

tacit plank
#

There's 10 times more than this which you can't really find

dim geode
#

use the tech, fuck the man wherever possible

tacit plank
#

Since the media generally doesn't report on a lot on what's going on

vocal shard
#

Hii

#

Pog

#

Chanandler bong

tacit plank
#

Smaller companies like VRC are cozy btw

#

But all the really big ones are rotten, I've yet to find one counter-example to this

vocal shard
#

Rec room trash

languid beacon
tacit plank
#

It does, but it's also profiting on making children gamble CSGO items

umbral reef
#

Shoutout to the time Steam did the random account lottery and allowed everyone to feel how it is to use someone elses there account vrcCatChicken

vocal shard
#

which youtuber promoted that one lootbox gambling website to kids

tacit plank
#

And there's a lot of evidence that they haven't tried very hard at all getting these sites shut down

#

Caching peoples credit card information wasn't smart either, but at least that wasn't intentional

vocal shard
#

I hope this character in your pfp ain't a minor with that facial expression

tacit plank
#

It's Firina

vocal shard
#

from

worthy garnet
#

who?

vocal shard
#

I totally know who that is

tacit plank
vocal shard
#

You get someone to make it an avatar in vrc yet? Assuming thats your plan since you got the model

#

Firina is a custom model made specifically for vrchat. It's not a character from a show or anything

#

Same as my avatar is Hakka. Another model made from scratch for vrchat

ruby needle
#

Nyakka. cir3

vocal shard
ruby needle
#

Firina is definitely not a minor. They are a android, so. cirOwO

ruby needle
vocal shard
#

Officer, this guy.

tacit plank
#

And a bunny!

ruby needle
#

Android bunny cutie.

tacit plank
#

The Japanese are the best thing to happen to VRChat

vocal shard
#

😬

#

yeah they give me so many free assets

#

one Japanese website that has alot of 3d models on it that are for vrc

night sparrow
#

anyone use VRchat with virtualdesktop setup

tacit plank
#

Booth has a lot of free stuff a as well

#

But the pricy things are still 20 times cheaper than comissions and 20 times higher quality

vocal shard
#

ooh thats booth

ruby needle
#

Which is still a difference. 😄

tacit plank
#

That's true, but those frankenstein MMDs will never compete with the polished Japanese models

#

You can frankenstein booth stuff though

vocal shard
#

why is there josh dubs avatars on the front page

ruby needle
#

in all honestly, you do need to do quite some work on many booth models, at least in terms of optimization

#

And, MMD's aren't everything. cir3

tacit plank
#

CSGO loot crate gambling

#

It was made to get children addicted, the main target was never adults. They also indirectly supported Youtubers which made "loot crate" videos showing 1-10K$ winnings to hype up their subscribers (almost only young teens)

light cipher
#

does anyone know how to see vote kicks with the new update i clicking on it but it just brings me to notifications and says im all caught up

drowsy terrace
#

I need to save up to commission something unique for me

alpine rampart
#

Peepeepoopoo

vocal shard
#

Lol

#

Same

#

Same I get paid next week

#

Fair enough

robust thunder
#

Ooo, quest gang?

#

I've got the original quest and it was worth it

#

Go for the lower storage

#

It's cheaper and games take almost no space

umbral reef
#

Bruh if you got 100K pushing that passive income go for a index and dont cheap out

#

Gonna be waiting for a while then

vocal shard
drowsy terrace
#

I gotta get me some of those index knuckles, I'm on vive pro and still using vive wands

robust thunder
vocal shard
drowsy terrace
#

I still got an OG unused vive sitting in a box LOL, I just bought it for the wands and the lighthouses, this was before index was out

robust thunder
vocal shard
#

How's it going

robust thunder
#

It's going pretty well, its my first week back at college so I guess I gotta get used to it again

vocal shard
#

Same here

tacit plank
#

It's very common

vocal shard
#

Vrchat has a lot of people with social anxiety. So while you will often run into some obnoxious people in game, there's always someone similar you can connect to

drowsy terrace
#

you can try it without a headset you know

#

you can always use safety settings and mute/block for people that are killing your vibe

languid beacon
#

If you find the right people, yes. It’s a mix. You’ll get both loud rude people and polite friendly people.

slim lance
#

I hate the bastards that block or mute you when YOURE VIBING BY YOURSELF. It’s the mirror dwellers that do that toxic shit

rancid jewel
#

yeah me too

#

people who block others for no reason whatsoever are just
bad

vocal shard
rancid jewel
#

i have like 11 blocks according to this website, and i spend most of my time in game not talking at all and just walking around.
is it because i'm a new user and too much of a "ewww noob xdddd"

#

no wonder why it's taking me so long to move up to user

dim geode
#

whats your avatar?

rancid jewel
#

just a black robot with white outlines

dim geode
#

bummer, i believe in you. youll make user soon

languid beacon
#

It’s not a meme - people are so much friendlier

slow fox
#

Will vrchat have mobile soon?

rancid jewel
#

no

regal furnace
#

no

vocal shard
#

no~

robust thunder
#

Maybe?

knotty ferry
ruby tiger
#

i hope "acting like an asshole" isn't a thing

hollow ingot
#

VRChat mobile... potentially with even more restrictions than Quest with people that hold on to their old phones or have low-mid-specced devices?

Though there is Genshin Impact mobile

ruby tiger
#

a thing people roleplay as

hollow ingot
#

That is surely a thing.

spark crown
#

So, im getting an oculus tomorrow, is VR chat free on there?

vocal shard
#

anyone know how to make a game object World bound instead of Local?

robust thunder
spark crown
#

Ohh, how do I get more games? Do I connect it to my steam account or something?

dim geode
#

you did it!

spark crown
#

oh nice! when is it arriving?

cosmic shale
#

But that’s about it

#

Furry

brave compass
#

You should be! Its super fun man!

dense stag
#

So I am gonna merge my steam to a new vrc account, will my name still be my steam name or will it be the VRC account name?
Cause I like my name from my steam account

vocal shard
dense stag
#

So I won't be able to be my Steam Name Anymore? Cause the name dotMO (my steam name) is already a taken username on vrchat.com

#

I am not asking that

#

I am saying, what vrchat username will be used, my steam username or the vrchat account name

simple kite
#

steam name i think

dense stag
#

ugh why did dotMO have to be a taken name

frosty veldt
#

Only reason you can use your steam name is because of the random characters at the end. It will use your vrc name

vocal shard
#

But if you were already using just a normal steam account, you name in game would have been dotMO, and then some random letters after it

dense stag
#

So if I merge my VRC and Steam Acc, then log in with my steam acc the name will be my steam name

vocal shard
#

The name will be whatever your vrchat.com account is

dense stag
#

F...

vocal shard
#

That's weird that the name would be gone though. Unless someone else grabbed it already

simple kite
#

ong

vocal shard
#

It only adds that to steam accounts

dense stag
#

For me when I input dotMO as Choose a Username it says its already taken

floral flaxBOT
#

┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ) There you go

vocal shard
#

Well... Default steam or oculus accounts

dense stag
#

And I can't have a 3 char username either (.MO) vrcSad

#

IK that name is not taken, but that is not particularly useful since .MO is a character from a Wall-E comic book

gleaming hill
#

Anyone know if the Rising Sun emblem counts as offensive for VRChat rules?

simple kite
#

do you think one of you guys might be able to help me with my vrchat it keeps crashing
and prob

dense stag
#

What do names with # look like on them? Maybe I could make it dotMO#2004 as my discord info

simple kite
#

im not sure if you can use it but try with a Ф

dense stag
#

Welp just came up with an idea, making my username dotM0

simple kite
#

XЄГПΣL̲99 this is what my vrchat name looks like

vocal shard
#

anyone in the back cat rn?

river pagoda
#

im in your mom

#

gottem

#

dabs

simple kite
#

would someone be able to help me w my vrchat its being a turkey

vocal shard
#

what a great way to word that

#

Anyway, What seems to be the problem @simple kite

simple kite
#

its favorite thing to do is crash

final prawn
#

hoi ppl

#

how life

prime leaf
#

is there any way to get trust level faster i just want to test out an avatar i'm working on for someone else

simple kite
#

add friends

vocal shard
simple kite
#

no like i cant even load in

vocal shard
simple kite
#

exactly

robust thunder
vocal shard
#

exactly what?

robust thunder
#

Did you try clearing out your cache?

simple kite
#

tried that and i have room

vocal shard
#

Uninstall/reinstall?

robust thunder
#

What about your Internet, do you have a stable connection?

simple kite
#

uninstalled and re didnt work
and internet is ok

robust thunder
#

If you don't have a constant connection that can lead to lag and such

simple kite
#

nothing else lags

robust thunder
#

Wait, what was the question?

#

I'm sorry I forget quickly

simple kite
#

thats alright
my game doesnt want to work/launch/ stay open

#

longest it will stay open for is like 5 sec

robust thunder
#

It doesn't launch?

simple kite
#

yes and no

robust thunder
#

Ummm

#

I'll take that as a no

simple kite
#

it will but then will close like ALT F4

robust thunder
#

Do you play on desktop or with a headset?

simple kite
#

desktop

robust thunder
#

Try resetting your avatar to default

#

You can do that on the VRChat website

simple kite
#

ill try that

robust thunder
#

Ok, I'll be waiting

simple kite
#

no

#

didnt work

robust thunder
#

It may be your gpu

simple kite
#

1660

robust thunder
#

Do you have an old or corrupt GPU?

simple kite
#

🤷‍♂️
i have 163 hours in vrchat tho

robust thunder
#

Just try updating your driver's

simple kite
#

they are up to date

vocal shard
#

Game crashes randomly... idk the real issue with this but maybe try updating drivers, verifying file integrity, uninstall/reinstall, computer restart, check ram/memory usage

simple kite
#

i’ve done all that so idk what it is

vocal shard
#

How strange

robust thunder
#

Your should allow VRChat through firewalls

simple kite
#

it is

robust thunder
#

Do you use a VPN?

simple kite
#

no

robust thunder
#

Do you use steamvr?

simple kite
#

no

#

i don’t think i need it cause i’m on desktop

robust thunder
#

Do you use the oculus app then?

simple kite
#

no

#

i don’t got a head set

robust thunder
#

How do you play VRChat though?

simple kite
#

steam

robust thunder
#

Oh... sorry I'm just a bit stupid

final prawn
#

h

simple kite
#

my dad calls me that to
it’s ok

vocal shard
#

lmao

#

my vrc+ is gone :(

#

Same issue many people are having @vocal shard

#

ah

#

should i just send a ticket

#

It's best you report it

robust thunder
vocal shard
#

blue status is useless im still getting requests

simple kite
#

i linked my steam and vrchat

robust thunder
final prawn
#

meh back is glue to wall help]

#

oop

acoustic musk
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I just joined a game 10 minutes ago and the person crashed my game and is now reporting me because I told him I was going to tell the people who work for vrchat about this

vocal shard
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ok

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ok

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just report them

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public rooms be a bit chaotic sometimes be wary of them

acoustic musk
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I did but now he’s getting all of his friends to report me how is that fair I haven’t done nothing

vocal shard
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sad

robust thunder
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Sometimes you shouldn't brag about reporting someone

simple kite
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that sound like my experience on r6

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but with a perm ban

acoustic musk
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I hope I don’t get banned because there’s loads of custom avatars on it

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Every one go on vrchat and join great pug west I’ll tell u what happened

robust thunder
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Do you have proof that they are a crasher?

vocal shard
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uh yuki theres multiple instances

acoustic musk
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Yes I did a vid

vocal shard
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like multiple great pugs

robust thunder
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Then create a ticket

acoustic musk
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He was using Alistair skin and got his wand out and it crashed my game he did this twice

simple kite
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that’s prob a shader crashed change you safety settings

iron axle
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hey so i logged in to vrc just now. i don't have my vrc+ anymore apparently and on the menu tab it says not yet supported on this platform. it was literally working yesterday

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is there a bug

simple kite
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ya

iron axle
acoustic musk
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Vrchat should put 2 servers one for quest and one for pc if pc players want to join quest they should get forced to use a skin that hasn’t got much data on 

iron axle
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i launch game through oculus menu

robust thunder
iron axle
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what

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i pay for it via steam

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are u saying i need to run the game via steamvr?

robust thunder
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No, you can still use VRChat+ in the oculus app but to buy VRChat+ you need to go through steam

iron axle
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i wasnt saying that

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theres a bug

robust thunder
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whats the bug?

iron axle
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i just said above initially... and someone said yes

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ive had it since it released

robust thunder
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yes it has been a bit buggy lately. Some people have been having it where it says they have just paid for their subscription yet in vrchat there is nothing there

iron axle
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great lmao

rancid jewel
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i found the best instance

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i was wearing a protogen avatar and so was basically like
everyone else in the instance in the black cat

red current
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So how long do the invites last now with the new system?

vocal shard
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Hey

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My vr membership ran out but it says I have a subscription. Really weird champ

robust thunder
vocal shard
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Idk what to do for that

red current
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Now that’s a weird champ

robust thunder
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vrchat+ has been majorly derpy lately

vocal shard
golden scaffold
abstract elm
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I have a question
why did they fix the cool bug, that lets you float for a little bit while pressing a or d midair
i loved that bug so much

red current
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Oh thought you meant you still got it lol

abstract elm
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sad

vocal shard
iron axle
red current
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@golden scaffold Eyy how long do invites last now cuz? As the new system

vocal shard
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Buttt, It says I have a subscription already when I try to buy it

robust thunder
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i dunno if you've seen them yet

golden scaffold
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Not sure, I don't think there's really a defined limit on the invites as they currently stand but I could be wrong

tight escarp
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Hi, I’m new here, where should I go to ask something about the Q2?

golden scaffold
golden scaffold
red current
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Oh yea Righto, cheers, allgoods

iron axle
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is there an estimate of when tne vrc+ bug will be fixed, bc i'm paying for it

robust thunder
golden scaffold
tight escarp
rancid jewel
tight escarp
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Thx!

rancid jewel
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ye np

iron axle
golden scaffold
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As always, as much info as you can provide should help us out

tight escarp
worthy axle
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Oh damn met some fun people this eve

sharp wren
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Is there anyway to go on vrchat for mobile users..

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My pc wire got chewed by my dog😔

rancid jewel
feral locust
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What’s up everyone

rancid jewel
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not much, how about you?

feral locust
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Not much, first day on discord and second day on VRchat. Just learning the ropes haha

rancid jewel
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nice

feral locust
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Got any good starter tips? Not sure how complicated it would be but I’m interested in getting a personalized avatar somehow...

mellow sundial
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Is anyone else experiencing problems with AFK mode? I'm perpetually stuck in it

rancid jewel
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you could commission someone for that

feral locust
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How would I go about such a thing?

rancid jewel
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try booth

feral locust
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Booth?

rancid jewel
feral locust
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Ahh okay

dim geode
mellow sundial
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Thanks!

fast sandal
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So what do I do if my vrchat+ isn't active anymore but when i go to pay it says 'That steam user already has an active subscription!'?

rancid jewel
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you contact steam

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but first check if the subscription is still present in account settings

fast sandal
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it is, its under my manage subscriptions still

rancid jewel
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then try to cancel it through there

young birch
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hello

robust thunder
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Hey

lunar dome
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Can I ask a question well it’s more like advice

rancid jewel
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sure

robust thunder
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Churro

lunar dome
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Umm so why don’t people want to date me

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They says I’m ugly

robust thunder
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Why not?

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Oh you said why don't people I thought you said why do people

young birch
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tuff

rancid jewel
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😬

young birch
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i need help

robust thunder
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Being ugly isn't something that's based on a common thing but just on a person's opinion of you

lunar dome
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Nvm it was a stupid question

rancid jewel
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yeah it's just a persons opinion of you

robust thunder
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So in a way, no one is ugly and everyone is ugly

robust thunder
rancid jewel
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you aren't actually ugly, i'll let you know that.

young birch
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i cant find someone to commission for me i have the normal amount of money for it but cant find anyone

vocal shard
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try vrc traders

robust thunder
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^^

rancid jewel
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yeah

young birch
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that a website??

vocal shard
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add me on disc

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ill send u the invite

robust thunder
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I don't have it on hand

open crescent
rancid jewel
robust thunder