#vrchat-general-2
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No they would’ve had to do it themselves if that’s what’s happening
there setting is set to opt out of beta. and they can see and hear eacch other but not me
The other possibility is that they’ve collectively decided to block you
ok so that wouldn't make sense since they are trying to join up with me specificly
It doesn’t but I’m just exhausting the possibilities here lol
so if we were in a movie world. would the world still react to my actions for them
like if i choose a movie to watch would it play for them?
Depends on the nature of why you aren’t seeing each other
my one friend said his vr chat just started to update. hopfuly that is the issue
@sharp saddle do you know where i can find this keyboard prefab? D:
hi i have a question and problem we been this guy try to get money from another people inn VRC
Er... what? How is he trying to get money?
prostitution
matching avatar worlds?
What's everyone's safety settings like? Do you block toward the high end of the trust system or the low end?
Dumb question but are there any worlds with decent shota or goat avatars?
I keep avatars and voice on but perf on low so most avatars get blocked anyway
my safety settings are default because safe mode resets your custom ones anyway so there's no point setting one just to accidentally reset it
With a i5 6500 and a gtx 1060 my game doesn't run very smoothly with just a few very poor avatars
@sage pewter i block everything for everyone except voice. If i want to see someones avatar i show them.

@sage pewter i block everything for everyone except voice. If i want to see someones avatar i show them.
@unreal verge I play without a monitor, speakers, keyboard, mouse, or a VRChat or Steam account. Get on my level.
Peak VRChat
How do I become a trusted user?
I'm known rn, and i've been palying for a cpl of days but
Upload a world or an avatar & make it public, get all of your friends to use it.
Glad to know you good bro
hello
Im using light mode
sheesh
how do you report people?
Hey I’m wanting to make an avatar but I’m having problems putting it into unity, I don’t know what chat you use
i mean in game
@celest dove If you click on someone's name in your social menu, you will see a report user function alongside the other functions.
i didnt have that option was it because i blocked them?
It should always be there regardless.
Does twitch live stream links work on the live option for video players?
it should
Last time I checked, twitch streams worked fine on most video players.
Hi
eww no
See svel there? She is a egirl, gl

hm
hm
hiya.
kinda new here still trying to grasps how to do 3d models for VR chat coming from 3dmax background
Also look at Svels status! One chance in a lifetime!
Gotcha!
sad, maybe i got a chance
👀
i need help with my vrchat lag
Is she big tiddy goth egirl? 
->
svel's pfp does not look very goth to me

wha? em i wrong?
I mostly wear black clothes, does that count ?
If yes then we all are goths
I like black too
Black, gray and dark blue
Yes green too
I mainly just wear black, sometimes other colours though
My mom is always mad when I'm buying black clothes so I changed that to Grey or black with other color combo
If your wear black clothes to blend in that actually doesn work fyi
Better to just wear normal colors then, just nothing bright and stuff
just wear camo pattern if you want to blend in
My favorite color to wear is a light pink
so there is a guy streaming vrchat with mods, do i just report it via email? can i post the link to the vod in here?
you know, if there is a filter to remove any mention of that website, it's not a challenge for you to bypass it.
real quick my vrchat is not really updating the online friend list. Y'all know the fix? I'll send feet pics in exchange.
uhh
kinda hard to know if it's server issue or on your side
usually expanding and reducing the online friend list can force an update
maybe more people can help in #user-support-old
probably. i didn't see that channel. But real quick how do I restart vrc? Do i lear cache or something?
exit and open the game again should be enough
Is there a visible difference between avatars who are originally modelled with quads vs triangles?
Ah yes over 100k people but a dead general
unity will triangulate all models
@vocal shard I trust you with my life
Idk why I just do
I don't trust my own life with myself, bold move on your part
Hey man
I can’t lose my will to live
Can’t lose something you never had
So i trust most people
can't argue with that
I started modeling in roblox 5 years ago
And now I make avatars for $5
For really horny people
LAMAODMEOM
What
Only five?
Yah lol
Bro I low key don’t need money I just do it for fun
@vestal pier
I do it because it’s ez
Ok as long as you understand that you are damaging the reputation of other artists by underselling the medium and yourself
Me who does it Because it’s a coping mechanism for my depression: uuhhhhhh......
I do it cuz it’s an easy thing to do
And it helps me cop
@vestal pier
ok
how is he damaging the reputation of other artists by selling his work ?
does anyone know who i can contact about being bammed?
i got banned for using a hateful avatar ater buying a custom avatar
how do i do that
Its a great way to get blocked and banned if you do that
Read the rules first kekw
Also send in a support ticket. They wont explain why you got banned, thats what the ban msg is for.
You can appeal it though true the support ticket system. #vrchat-support
Underselling art is damaging to all artists because it creates a false idea of worth to the people who do not create @vocal shard
There is only an slight basis of proof for that idea when two people sell close to the same style of art with the same reach.
New artist selling there less refined work for cheap does not harm the expert who can charge more and have a way bigger market reach.
fairly sure that's false
cuz the other way around also works
people selling shitty kitbash for an absurd price
it works just like any other type of market
if people are willing/unwilling to pay an amount it will/won't sell
Someone playing with me via laptop?
So I haven’t played this game in a while but just wondering did they ever fix the particles cause they still seem broken to me I’m on OG quest btw
If I somehow mod or remove some of the avatars emotes after contacting them, do they do unbannings?
There are no crashes on the avatar
And no they didn’t fix the particles on a quest with no pc, you will flick out so only press your power button 3 to 2 times and it will go away @wild shard
anyone got an avatar that can go invisible that i can clone
anyone got an avatar that can go invisible that i can clone
@swift heron I do
@swift heron
Hi
@swift heron I do
@copper wraith thats cool
Idk why but people started looking at me when I moved my fingers, experimenting with my avatar
People just gave me some weird looks lmao
Maybe people have an attraction
Towards you and your avatar
If people feel attracted to master chief, I can't blame them
I am attracted to master chief
Halo is so hot it’s unbelievable
Honestly, everyone using anime avatars thinks their avatar is hot. They all wrong, this power armor the hottest.
My avatar isn't hot, it's cute

if anyone else has a avatar that can go in visible can u let me clone it
Gotta agree 1000% with Pulse here. The Mjolnir powered armour is 😍
That's totally not cursed
he b-became s-so powewfuw… the o-o-onwy thing he was afwaid o-of was wosing his power, which eventuawwy ☆:・゚ of couwse〜☆ he did. unfowtunatewy ☆:・゚ he taught h-his a-appwentice evewything he knew, then his appwentice kiwwed him in his sweep ☆*:・゚ iwonic. he couwd s-save o-others fwom death..-.- but not himsewf
;D
@whole crow
anyone knows what world i can get a good among us avatar in? i searched among us and those worlds has bad avatars
The ones I’ve seen look exactly like the 2D versions, don’t know if that’s what you mean
where at
I’m pretty sure that’s the same ones you don’t like
if u cant move arms its probably not the best
It has working floaty hands and has a color change menu
Don’t know where it’s from I just cloned it. Isn’t avatar favoriting wonderful for creators?
the new among us wrld - leaving that sentence there :)
Vr chat anyone, got the quest yesterday
if would have been wonderful for the creator if they would have showed you the creators world where they got it from @languid beacon
That is basically why it's only 16 Favorites.
Some might be okay with it, others really dislike that. Hence the compromise.
anyone ever had any experiance with anyone calling themselfs Hostel gang?
hey is it possible to put emojis in your vrchat username?
yes, but, well, not very recommended
well, sort of hard to type emojis in vr
who is good makeing avatar skins on vrchat
@indigo fern is a very good avatar maker
😐
https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-23-RIAA.md
Youtube DL received a DMCA takedown, isn't it what VRC uses for streaming videos and music for their player ?
If so, how is it going to affect VRC ?
cant wait for the stuck at 100% BS gets fixed
Does anyone know any space themed avatar worlds like aliens and astronauts?
Does anyone know any space themed avatar worlds like aliens and astronauts?
@potent gale you have it on among us world
I found one with the accurate look game models before but it's alright ish
those takedowns are only for the code forks hosted on github.....very silly, but don't appear to have any teeth
@indigo fern can you make me a avatar plz

Hey, I just got here. I was wondering which chat I should use to get help with uploading a new avatar.
yo @indigo fern , you got a commission
h
hiiiiii
@fervent lichen > https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-23-RIAA.md
Youtube DL received a DMCA takedown, isn't it what VRC uses for streaming videos and music for their player ?
It is, and it’s just the corrupt music industry being corrupt. It will be totally ignored, they can take it up with YouTube themselves if they don’t like how it works.
a
how is that spam-
too many "j"
oh
hello, any software devs/web devs from new zealand?
Might be me but that URL doesn’t work.
@languid beacon problem is one entity has lots of moneys and lawyers while the other side doesn't
Legality isn't about being right it's being able to prove your right and not go bankrupt.
No. Not a dev, but Using anything other than the official game download can potentially result in being permanently banned. They put this warning on every teleport screen message. :)
Rip
Here lies Bahka 🌹
the sly fest 2020 should have a world row
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, we leave Bahkabot in the earth’s crust. Does anyone else have any words to say in bahka’s memory?
his scuff aura is so powerful that he will manage to scuff his own death and stay alive
he'll be fine
Vrchat would be dead if wasn't for streamers
Strong disagree I think people really overvalue them. Or they overvalue themselves. Not sure which.
Those 2018 Knuckles Memes definitely sparked the initial viral success for sure and gave the game a good base level of awareness. But VRChat has been doing just fine since then with no real special streamer attention
I guess we will see once vrc is banned from twitch, eh?
@vestal pier I mean if that happened, sure. But think people really over value how big a role Twitch plays in game popularity. It’s a drop in the ocean compared to youtube.
Don't get mee wrong i am on your team
soooooo when will the menu that requires a minimum of 20fps to open the "pause and click someone" menu be fixed
Has there even been talk of twitch banning VRChat? just curious where that comes from. I’m not up on Twitch gossip.
Big streamers like to flaunt the shitty sides of vrchay
I think it’s perfectly in line with all of Twitch’s rules. NSFW isn’t allowed in VRC, especially not streaming it.
What is vrchat
😳
There have been cases of vrc uhh performers being banned in game because it was broadcasted on stream already
Twitch even has a dress code in their tos now don't they?
I think if it came down to it it would probably be in VRChat’s interest to just ban those bad streamers rather than get their platform banned. “Don’t make our product look bad” is pretty much what all terms of services say, they just try and be more technical about how they say it.
They did done that already
And also DMCA takedown for use copywrite music
Not related but thanks
So u can't play copy write music in stream or in worlds or on avatars
I always just get my streams muted I’ve never had them DMCA but I guess I don’t have big enough of a following for them to care
Some streamers have gotten off with it purely because of how big they are
I was legit talking for the first time in there to some hot chili peppers and then my headset died help
Learn to charge it
Sorry your keyboard is cutting out the last part of your sentences
So why not just have a tethered headset toast
Got my quest free :P
Oh like a family tree curse or something
Burn.
Burnt toast?
Also if I wasnt grateful I wouldn't kf bought is a bunch of games each lol
Bought us both job sim vacation sim beat saber and twd saints and sinners
Way to waste your money
As wonderful as index and fullbody is, if I could press the reset button on all of my VR purchases I probably would just grab a quest 2. Don’t need one now though
Too many problems surround the q2 for me to want one
What problems ? I've had 0
I hear they’re recalling the elite straps
The dreaded fb
The fb login isnt a issue
For you
Idk why ppl make it a big deal lol just something to complain about
I mean it is definitely is something to complain about
You answered your own question with the first three letters
Idk, you don't know
Its an issue if you know what you're talking about
Na not an issue at all okay if u think it's an issue explain why
The concerns are legitimate. I’m just beyond caring. My info is already out there being bought and sold. Facebook isn’t going to make it any worse. What are they going to do. Curse me with more relevant ads?
Is Google down right now or something???
The data stuff is not even my issue that's just shut to add to the pile
No googles not down
It's also an issue with people who didn't already have a Facebook account too
What are they going to do? Ban you. There goes all your oculus devices since they need a FB account to use.
So go do some research headass
Since they've had an issue deleting account for being false for actual years
U signed up for discord right? U can sign up for fb just as easy
Literally no
Actually the thing with me is I don’t have a Facebook account. I never made one. I would make one to use a quest 2 though.
Yes its just as easy
He doesn't know
Discord doesn't require a full name, nor does it have a track record of banning people with unusual names
@ashen hill Not true, FB will deactivate accounts they don't think is a real person, until they get proof. Like a fucking passport.
They tend to delete legitimate accounts too
Discord always blocks out accounts for not verifying with number :P
When
And big deal prove your a real person simple
That's a completely different level of issue.
Keeps fake people away aka trolls
You know arrogance is not a favourable trait
It’s true. I couldn’t sign up under my name. they wanted a photocopy of my ID. I could have provided it I just chose not. Tried years later to make a Facebook account and they still want it the ID so I still have not made one as of yet. I would do it if I really wanted or needed an account though.
I don’t want or need an account right now
That sometimes isn't enough
They can refuse id
Like legit go Google this my guy there are cases onto of cases
Well that's your fault if they refuse
Braindead
The only entities that have any right to see my government issued ID (my passport, driver's license) are other governments for travel purposes or where age verification is legally required.
FB are none of these things so fuck them.
Age verification should be legally required on fb
I did do a test though and I just intentionally misspelled my last name and they let the account get created with no additional info needed. Apparently having the last name as a verb/profession made them suspicious. But since that’s not my name and wasn’t my real email, I don’t consider myself as having a Facebook account. Never used it again.
Shouldnt be able to sign up for fb without verifying at all
Was entirely possible for me
Sure but what about the cases where verification isn't enough
Would stop the pedos <<<<
I don’t comprehend that logic
there is none
You do understand most of them are over 18 right
I don't think they understand anything
Again everyone should have to verify with gov I'd then when ppl do dumb shit they can face the consequences aa facebook would be able to report them to law enforcement
This conversation’s been fun. I’m done with it now.
We have to much freedom
👀
Okay, you are actually insane. Good to know. 🙄
They should forcefully chip everyone in the world to track them 247
^^^
get me some too
😂
The classic "i looked stupid so I'm switching to troll mode"
Yeah you're just wrong
Na
Anyway, favourite kinds of pizza to have while in VR?
something meaty
I'm gonna go get some sweet chili chicken pizza in the oven then get in VRC
I'm a simpleton i really just like margarita
Oh yeah that's nice too.
Brb I'll continue soon <3
ok wait, sweet chili chicken sounds good
Pepperoni if I'm feeling daring
i'll have what he's having
actually, im pretty alright with most pizza, its an all around good time
Anyway, favourite kinds of pizza to have while in VR?
@rough pulsar Dominoes cheeseburger pizza. Don’t ask me what exactly they put on it to make it taste like a cheeseburger I don’t know and I don’t care.
margherita is probably the best pizza to have while in VR due to the lack of loose toppings that could fall off unexpectedly
Damn, gonna have to try that sometime. It sounds awful yet delightful.
Why awful
There’s also a local shop where the only topping is just a bunch of french fries and it’s amazing
whoa now that sounds cool
Apparently in some parts of Italy, french fries on pizza is considered totally normal.
Weird
And when I say some parts I mean according to a friend from a small town near Milan.
I'm not a fan of mixing foods unless they're from completely separate categories
Dipping fries in milkshake, good
Hopefully my body never figures out pizza has cheese in it or I’ll die
Oh also barbecue pizza. With chicken.
You know what it doesn’t really matter what it is as long as it’s in the rough approximate shape of a pizza it’s great
Back on the topic of VR though,
I highly recommend a headset with pass-through so it’s easier to eat the pizza.
I'm bk
Pizza Hawaii best pizza. Can't go wrong with ham & pineapple. 
i have a question
There is an avatar but I don't know the name of it. Its like a tiny blue squishy octopus looking thing
VRChat anyone 14+ im steam on pc
what the fuck...i got banned for a "modified client"
stop using a modified client then
i absolutely have never used a modded client lmao i have hundreds and hundreds of hours of me playing
on video
if they ask me at what point i used a modded client i can point to the video of me playing
im blown the fuck away
go fuck yourself
why so defensive though
ive been ddosed and crashed a million times and still never modded because its a social game
because youre being a prick
If you've been using a vpn, or ever uploaded something for someone else, the system may possibly have linked you to someone who was breaking the rules. Best to send an appeal through a ticket
Im trying to figure out why you got banned
jesus christ dude what is wrong with you
That's not a modified client
so let me get this straight
Bruh idk what they ban shit for
i get ddosed like a dozen times, i get told to use a vpn by the devs
then i get banned because i used a vpn?
If you haven’t used a hack client there’s not a lot of options as to why you got banned
yeah pretty much
dude shut up youre like 14 finish algebra before you talk about the complexities of anticheats, programming, and false positive
VPNs are fine. It's just if the vpn ever linked you to an ip that had been used by a modder, that could trip the system
right but like...theres not too many good paid vpn services out there it seems likely that will happen
Why the fuck are you so defensive I’m just curious as to why you got banned
Just best to reach the mod team directly here http://help.vrchat.com/new
Jesus Christ I’m not trying to insult you
ur not the only one dem
others have been banned for no reason
and trying to get answers in this discord is impossible lol
because i get banned for false positive and potpot comes up here and says im guilty and is being a general douche
The mod team doesn't respond here. It's not worth bringing it up here
ive seen people complain about this on reddit and it took em like 2 weeks to get a response
Ok I’m sorry but if you didn’t use a modified client then there has to be some sort of reason as to why you got banned
do you know what the words false positive mean?
Unless they just randomly decided to ban you out of nowhere
lol whats the point of the discord if they dont respond?
The discord is mainly for user to user help
Any help from vrchat team mbers usually has to go through the email
Yeah it means that it was an accident and it probably is it’s just why the fuck did you get hit with it
I'm a chat mod here, and I don't even know who from the vrchat team is on the game mod team. It's best to just use the ticket
lol
hes lucky if he gets a response for that ticket
"sorry it'll take 2-20 business days cause we're 'busy"
Nobody responds in this chat
Is it possible to change the default model used for blocked avatars?
Saddly not
Does anyone have a Silica avatar from SAO? sorta like the Sinon avatar some kinda gentlemen gave me. it has an animation of opening the in game menu going through 2 menus then selecting her weapon. (you kinda need to pretend your actually hiting the options during the animation but you get the point)
oh i cant actually post an image of her
Does anyone know how VRC is going to handle the Youtube-DL DMCA take down that just happened? Are videos in worlds just not going to work anymore?
I think you can do it from the website or from the search thing in the social tab. @hard needle
No clue then, maybe it worked, but didn't update on your screen, try restarting the game
I just realized this really cool app I wrote a long time ago doesn't work anymore either because of ytdl ;-;
@marble locust are you aware youve unfriended me? i tried to message you but your settings are still private so i had to find you here
This doesn seem like Github's fault at all
WTF? Yeah, for pen testing and as examples
But most everything is opensource, if you're really scared just look at the source code and compile it yourself.
I think Github has bad reputation outside of the developer community now that I think about... A few people at LTT have turned their nose up at the name
Being completely I run random ass projects off github and the AUR without much though
I don't blame anyone who doesn't know how OSS works.
No....
The things you say....
I want to explain why that isn't an issue but I have to do homeworkkk
It's very wrong and not at all based on facts
Not everyone can add random things to a open source project, the project managers review the code, make sure they understand it, then add it to the code.
@quick kayak You've been kinda mean ngl.
I would try to contact support again, or submit something on their issue tracker if they have one
you know one of the biggest features of github is the issue tracker
Yeah, I'd say contact support again. Seems like something only they can fix if restarting the game didn't work
if vrc was open source, and perhaps on github, maybe we could hunt down this bug ourselves and fix it
Naw, it's fine. lmao I didn't realize Github had a bad rep, only had hints, now I know.
^^^
Actually if VRC was opensource, I'd actually play it.
There's so many little things I would fix lmao. Plus it's like a metaverse, imagine getting to work on something like that
Smited?
Lmao, I'd make the desktop walking have acceleration and deceleration, because linear feels soooo gross.
And I'd port it to Linux so I can uhh, actually play it with out closing everything out and waiting 20 minutes for Windows to load up.
And cheats and crashing exploits would get patched as soon as they're found
Linux people? A port is planned, but I want it now!
But I'd imagine they'd have to make something not free, like storage limits for avatars and worlds or something.
No I mean like, you can only up load x amount of avatars or up to x amount of megabytes of avatars.
That kind of restriction would make some artists have to pay to upload their commissioned work. Which I think would be fine for most people, making avatars takes a butt ton of time, so you can charge a lot. But if it were a monthly fee or some other kind of subscription, I'd be screwed over.
Maybe, it would probably have to be per upload or per like every gigabyte or something. Hosting is a monthly variable cost on their end most likely
I'm a bit annoyed there's a favorite avatar cap
^^^
Also sad that most of the avatar worlds I used to go to pretty much died there used to be a Vocaloid hub that had a variety of vocaloid characters that wasn't just 10 billion recolors of Miku
Worlds can be like 500MB but they can't deal a 5 KB list of avatars.
I need to find some avatars I like, but every time I do, I have to sacrifice a situation meme one... It's so sad.
Yeah
and most avatar worlds don't interest me much nowadays
There's only a couple that have some super interesting designs
Nowadays I encounter terrible recolors of Ooka Miko (please let her rest...) or just idk nothing interesting
Yeah, then you pick those nice one, then walk 30 feet in the next world and someone else is using the exact thing lmao
Oh god haha
I had a situation like that
Someone once ported Vocaloid Haku Yowane but the hub that hosted her sadly died off
Oh my god I found a vocaloid hub that has not only Miku finally!
figured out why i got banned for client usage...account got hacked
kinda messed up that theres really no way for me to check something like that unless friends tell me my name has changed(and they only realized because they had a public avatar of mine saved), or if i log into an alt account on a vpn where i have my banned account added
Should still, reach moderation through the ticket
yeah, but unfortunately i didn't add that info on the ticket
and obviously i'd like the situation to be as fast as possible so if it takes multiple replies then it's going to be multiple days
Ticket's are the way of contacting and handling official support
cuz i don't know how obvious it's going to be, i mean to me it's obvious because my name changed from -dem- to 112jfasdf or something lmao
And that in order. 
Yeah I had that happen with my minecraft account. Logged in one day and my name was changed and skin different. 
anybody want to play vrchat among us
Anyone here able to help me out with a question?
Ill try
Wtf?
Is anyone here good with making models because I'm new to blender and 3d modeling and I have a question
Hey so I have a DIO avatar that can send out The World, but how do I make it appear? Like, what do I press to make The World appear? (I'm on PC by the way)
anybody got any reccomendations on a pre fabbed video player that won't cause any errors in SDK2?
Anyone here have the index and has used it for a while?
im a broke boy so i use the quest 😞
man i wanna learn sign language
the index
I don’t know. I’ve used Vive and currently use the index
Even with $1000 invested it’s only Y tracking...lol
What...
144hz tho
The screen isn’t even that great, there is constant glare from the lenses. And 144/120/90 is all the same to me
Screen is pretty good... I've used most consumer headsets and I wouldn't want to go back..
The glare tho, yeah index is bad for that
I switched it from 90, to 120, and 144. Sure a difference is see between 60 and 90 but the others are the same
ya that's an issue
i mean in vr chat that's different
for beat saber for example i can clearly see a difference between 120 and 144
everyone processes things differently, i always see into detail with things
so i can notice every small change
I don’t want to do high paced games in VR
Wait so who here has the index?
Apple is working on motion trackers anyways, I rather sell my index for a profit $$$ then wait for something REALLY good to come out
For me, even the rift S at 80hz looks choppy in beatsaber. Thats one of the more telling games for refresh. Otherwise slower paced is more about the feel of immersion
i just got mind today and had a question,,
i have index
@tacit flax Do my lenses look normal to you?
I wouldn't trust an apple headset
..
yeah why
The rings?
ya it's supposed to look that way
Like its super clear and everything.. but when im playing certain titles i feel like i keep seeing this white edge-ish thing / haze on the very edge of the lenses
If the vive was like a 5/10 then the index would be a 8/10. It’s great, but it’s still not quite there. For the price difference though, you’re better off just getting a Kinect which actually does full body tracking. Index does not do it unless you purchase additional trackers on top of the $1k you already spent
Yeah, some call that godrays
i mean its not even when im in the dark and staring at bright things
in time u get used to it and barely notice it
just wanted to know if it was normal at all
@vocal shard iv used a kinect for 2 years... Trackers are night and day difference
from my experience anyway
@vocal shard iv used a kinect for 2 years... Trackers are night and day difference
@vocal shard I just think the index is overpriced
Like see these parts i circled... https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/388638706644549632/769420673482358804/unknown.png?width=1391&height=684
For not even having full tracking out of the box
Well yeah it's overpriced, but you pay premium tax
Just wasnt sure if the very edge of the lenses were supposed to had that diff colored part of the lense
No headset has full body tracking
Even vive trackers are not meant for fill body tracking
It's just not something most developers have in mind
That’s the thing, VR isn’t there yet. I’m waiting for next gen and selling this index
Alright... You do you
I jumped on vr with the oculus dev kits, and have been loving every iteration of vr
NGL.. i cant believe my post on the r/ValveIndex subreddit in half a day is already their hottest post and its like #2 best of the week
You learn not to expect perfection and just enjoy it
and i just posted it earlier
tryna find sexy kid avatar
I can’t see past the imperfections. Even with supersampling on and high resolution, the headset (although much better than others) isn’t as crisp as I would want it.
oh that post
yeahh, i posted that like as i was still setting my index up and just unboxed it lol
And bigger FOV would be nice, yes I know the index has the largest, but it’s still not covering my whole range of vision
i saw it, but i scrolled past it
Index definitely feels like a first gen product
No it doesn't... First gen felt like a crt monitor
Current gen feels like 720p
I meant from valve
@ruby tiger oooof... right in the feels
Upcoming like reverb g2 more like 1080p
Which is why I feel like valve index two could be near perfect
@umbral eagle it looks cool anyway
It doesn’t even use LIDAR which is the fastest tracking tech
Apparently gabe in a recent interview said index 2 might use some more outsourcing to boost production and lower costs
So..I’ll take advantage of the profit on eBay now and wait for next index revision
You need to remember... These are things for consumers
If you want that kind of tech... You're looking at a $10k settup
Like starvr
What kind of tech?
LIDAR?
Full fov, perfect clarity, faster than lighthouse tracking
LIDAR is dirt cheap
Far more accurate
I’ll just wait for the next index, a consumer device
I feel valve first try is really good just not good enough for me
i doubt the next gen is going to convince you to buy
I would love to see vr chat avatars in AR tho
I'm not sold on ar
I don't see the point other than precessional applications.
i doubt the next gen is going to convince you to buy
@ruby tiger well, apple is already working body point trackers. So big names are getting into it
I'm a gamer..
Also apple owns PrimeSense, or rather bought them, the creators of Kinect
Apple also has a habit of overselling cheap products...
Not a fan anymore
Used to love apple
I run my VR setup from my MacBook
Neat 
how is the performance
It runs Alyx almost maxed out. I have the MacBook Pro 16” on the 5500m 8gb#
how my pc barely runs roblox vr
It’s great cause I can hop around different rooms and try different setups
Except I need 4 outlets lol
adapters I guess?
i use the quest and i played wired vr and It felt Kinda worse like yeah it looked better but the wires really ruined it for me
I play VRChat here and there from my Macbook using Parallels with the same GPU, but never in VR
Mostly when I'm not home or near my actual PC
I play VRChat here and there from my Macbook using Parallels with the same GPU, but never in VR
@muted wharf you need to run it in bootcamp
Uh... How are you running an index on max with a 5500m... When a 1060 desktop is faster... But that struggles on alyx
i use the quest and i played wired vr and It felt Kinda worse like yeah it looked better but the wires really ruined it for me
@vocal shard another reason why I feel like VR isn’t there. Endless wires
Works butter smooth for me in Parallels and I don't generally bring my whole VR setup with me, so no need for VR when I'm restricted to using VRChat on a laptop lol
Uh... How are you running an index on max with a 5500m... When a 1060 desktop is faster... But that struggles on alyx
@vocal shard Weird, I don’t struggle. I run 120% resolution
I'm not that familiar with amd cards
I only struggle on VR chat on certain maps lol
does Parallels do gpu-passthrough?
(In VR) runs fine on desktop
I would never run VR On a virtual machine
Windows is natively installed on a separate partition
i have already met somebody with vfio (in vrc)
with gpu-passthrough for the windows vm
I'm not that familiar with amd cards
@vocal shard I also have an i9, 32gb ram, and nvme ssd
so you can have almost bare-metal performance
Hmm I am hesitant to game on parallels as it likely would drop performance
Yeah I'm just running an old 7th gen i7 (4 cores).
16gb ram, and a 2060

You definitely have a better gpu
Which is what matters most
Mhmm. But my CPU is bottlenecking vrchat I feel
I was suprised how not demanding Alyx was
Alyx is very optimized
Yeah it’s no VR chat
All half life games always ran well
Although my performance hit could likely be due to using a samsung odyssey plus headset, adding to the load by having the wmr portal in the background
(Asking again because I didn't get an answer before)
Hey so I got a DIO avatar that can send out The World, but how do I make it appear? Like, what do I press to make The World appear? (I'm on PC by the way)
While still having that cpu
Or can you not make things like that appear on PC?
How’s that headset
Phone headsets always felt the most natural. It’s a screen you always have with you and no wires required. Wish this was expanded more (I hope apple does it)
I think it'd be the same like if an avatar were to make a sword appear in their hand or something
I just have no idea how to make it appear on PC. Anyone have a clue?
I just wish we could do VR with our phones (connected to a headset), and Bluetooth trackers. That’s it. That’s would be amazing
Currently it's my favorite visually. (Although I haven't used the HP reverb yet).
It has the same resolution panels as vive pro and index, but it's oled and has an anti sde diffuser.
So while it's not quite as sharp as index, it has virtually no SDE, and almost the same fov.
The downside is the controller tracking is a first generation inside out system, so not the best. So I use index controllers
Hey, does anyone here know how in the world to play vrchat while laying down irl? I hear that people do it but I have no clue on how too.
Cat, did you try the Shift + Fn keys?
What’s an anti sde diffuser
I don't believe so.
Thank you.
It diffuses the lines between the pixels. So the colours appear solid. But the drawback is it makes the pixels look soft rather than sharp
I personally like it. Some don't
Ugh I hate that blurryness
I hate seeing individual pixels
Why the original quest and vive pro didn't do it for me
Is VR chat on mobile?
Yeah it's on quest and vive focus
if you consider Quest a mobile, then yes
But not phone
Those are wireless headsets?
Yeah, stand alone
So how does it generate the graphics?
like a phone would do it
Why don’t we just use phones then, which are arguable more powerful?
hola
It's all running a mobile chip
The new quest 2 is using an XR2 processor
¿tu hablas español? ¿o inglés?
i speak both
to keep you inside their ecosystem
... elige uno, lol
Phone vr is almost always terrible.
Quest is actually good, fully optimized to utilize the power, and can be plugged into a pc like a normal headset...
The downside is it requires a facebook account to use
Is the quest playable?
Compared to the index headset
Does it integrate with body trackers
The new Quest 2 is higher resolution than index.
It uses inside out tracking, and has slightly lower fov
What’s inside out?
No external sensors
It uses built in cameras to track it's position and controllers
and software to interpolate inbetween tracked positions
It doesn’t offer full body then?
No. No headset has full body 
I mean, I can’t buy trackers to make it full body?
Yeah you can, if you also have base stations
That's the settup I use
Vive trackers with an inside out tracked headset
Which base stations?
It doesn't affect the headset. So whatever you have for the trackers. 1.0 or 2.0
But it doesn’t matter which company you use for base stations ?
No. Steamvr tracking is all interchangeable.
Vive, index, pimax
You can mix and match the stuff
Nice
but you can't mix 1.0 and 2.0
Cat, did you try the Shift + Fn keys?
@ruby tiger That didn't work.
You can use 2.0 stuff with 1.0 or 2.0 base stations. But not visa versa
i meant you cant use both 1.0 and 2.0 base stations at the same time in your setup
and the refresh rate
I could certainly live with 60 or 90
No. The index has the audio, comfort, lenses
I wouldn’t call the index comfortable
And I have airpods
im going to make you uncomfortable
Quest is very front heavy, uncomfortable
Virtual Reality Chatroom
really? airpods
AirPods Pro
the index has top tier audio
I wouldn't want to game with bluetooth earpods
Yeah my airpods sounds better. Lol.
I prefer everything hard wired
Latency is a big killer for me
I actually re-route the audio because it’s more immersive
doesnt that add annoying delay?
It’s Bluetooth 5.0, there isn’t a delay
You're the first person I've seen say they didn't like index audio. That's almost always one of the biggest praises
I didn’t say I didn’t like it
you only changed the output device, right?
I said I prefer the airpods
Alrighty then 
It does sound great
I'm not a fan of things in my ears. I even have a set of bone conduction headphones that way stuff isn't in/on my ears. 
They have noise canceling, so it helps when the AC is blowing
ANC
Ah I see
Did you guys see that Dumb Video of Full Body Tracking Trolling Its funny
that kermit guy?
Yes
Honestly I don't watch much vr gameplay.

Me neither tbh
I don't even know who's famous in the vrchat community anymore 
Me
i will remember you as the AirPods guy
My idea of famous vrchat players is 2017
They love the Donald
Been seeing a lot of hitlers too
Eh...
that never changes
Question do you guys Think you know how the Kermit guy got Kermit?
They are always the funniest
I love it when people do impressions of their avatar
Imagine if the media came to VR chat
They would cancel VR chat
Like fuck
And damn
No
I will not forget what you said
Shame on you
he didnt ask you to forget it
your right. He told me to never use my mind
I get told to nevermind. And the media doesn’t cover it,
Can you stop
Anybody having issues with vrchat not sending out invites again?
clear your cache, restart your pc?
nah me and my buddies are all experiencing it which is why im here
I'd like to know if there's something server related going on
perhaps extra load of all the new people with quest 2s
but how would I know how their servers are doing lol
which platform do you play on? quest/pc
I use pc, I only use the potato when traveling or somehting
sorry
facebook tm potato
ive been watching a lot of vr chat videos on youtube (i dont have it yet) but i was wondering why people would pick an avatar different to their gender? Pardon my ignorance. I was just curious as to why??
anyone want to play some vr chat?
how uh, hard would it be to make a hug emote?
It's very simple. It's fashonable
Being a cute anime waifu is fashionable, and that's pretty much it. It might change years down the line
cuz i am inept at making emotes
@vocal shard any word about what's wrong?
Hello
Don't pull the 9
@modern raptor wana play sometime? also check ur dms
Hi guys!
Looking for monster avatar worlds (cute, cool, etc) any recommendations?
Rarely happens to me, huh
In larger lobbies its quite common. Its why I stick to mutual or small rooms
What are mutual rooms?
Like just friends+ ones
Ah
Well I generally dont really go to public randomly on my own so maybe that's why
I mean the main problem for me is, if I have the choice between jumping around worlds at random on my own and meet complete strangers, vs joining some friends while they are with other friends or hangout with a friends group, it kinda obvious which one I will prefer
Friends for lyfe
Yup, and I still run into new people all the time
I dont very often. Wish I did tho
Publics are fine if friends are there but other than that, eeeeeee I dunno
^ yes
I feel like in most public instances I just exist and watch the mayhem unfold in front of me
Yeah. I wanna me part of it
Sometimes that is nice but most of the time I'm not in the mood for that ><
Dm me and we can chill sometime. I always find something to do :p
Is there a place where I can ask someone to make me a sfw custom character? I'll be paying for it of course.
I know somebody who can do the modeling work
Dani?
Has anyone played the among us room?
yes~
Today i met some really nice people .
@austere hemlock have you met a person named nerdy birdy
Also why are guy avatars so hard to find I just want a guy that doesn't have a tail. Lol
🍇
🍓
🍊
I might have?
@hushed prawn you can try commission someone on VRCTraders
Any suggestions of large worlds with rivers/lakes/grass?
hi
talk about cats? sure
cats pog
🐱
Hey ppl I have seen that a lot of people actually were looking for a way to have a voice changer for Darth Vader in vr chat so since I have voice mod I decided to created one for y'all it took me 7 h to do that so I hope y'all like the set! https://youtu.be/EA2A9kdT6K4
Mb I didn't want to send it to general
😬
No I hoped in vr last week
Lmaoo
It's a great time to join
I only have a keyboard and Moose too but soon I'll get vr but frl even with keyboard it's immersive
We're currently hitting the highest player numbers we've had
The knuckles meme spiked the player count to 20k for a couple days, but then it dropped to 14, and has been climbing back up to a steady 20k+ now
We're still yet to get a good full body solution that isn't super expensive
Since vive trackers aren't made for full body specifically
And are super expensive since you need 3
I wanna get the full body thing that looks chill
@errant dew I wanted to get the best headset valve index with full body but I'll prob take the oculus quest 2 cause there is still an option to get hand tracking without controller with these plus get a Kinect and get a cheap body tracking and after that you can invest in more:)
Kinect + color balls = vive-alike tracking just saying
Good then just go check some vids on how to set it and you good!
until you turn 180°
Just if you turn around with Kinect the body tracking is starting to go crazy so just keep that in mind
Then u use 2 kinect, D4VR has it covered, but fr Kinect is good for cheap start
Wait you can use 2 Kinect?
new version of D4VR did allow it iirc
What's d4vr
and probably sanity too
its the cheapest, not the best
@median maple d4vr driver4vr (software), bandwidth (upload/.download speed)
to say simply... at least..
Best I think would be valve buttt it would be better if it was wireless
valve is working on a wireless adapter
Okok so I need to. Download driver for vr
i dont think its gonna be too expensive (yes im looking at you HTC) if it gets released
I built my pc at 1.3k cad
valve = best visual, very cool controls
vive = nokia3310 of headsets, durable but missing a lot
rift S = pls remove
quest 2 = let me gather all u personal data but other than that OP headset
I don't have the best gpu at all but it runs well
People run vrc on gtx1050, so its not much of gpu stress
CV1 was the nokia of VR
yeah i forgot CV1 which i break my window with, headset still good
these controllers could kill if you throw them correctly
I have msi rx 570 the best model of that part
VRChat maths are the best. 211.72MB/298.88MB loaded. 53%.
@brazen mirage pick one:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615293765237604363/750463888956588203/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615293765237604363/752605692069937232/unknown.png
:P
It's still average ok
imagine laptop being VR ready with no DisplayPorts 
valve = best visual, very cool controls
vive = nokia3310 of headsets, durable but missing a lot
rift S = pls remove
quest 2 = let me gather all u personal data but other than that OP headset
@brazen mirage wdym mean with rift s, pls remove
@marsh idol rift S = mic issues, not rly comfy
my rift S already on 3rd replacement due to constant blackouts, its caused by too much current delivered to headset slowly killing it
never heard that problem
@vocal shard 
But soon I'll have to upgrade my gpu cause it will overheat if I don't put fans at 80%
@marsh idol if i were u and looking for cheap capable headset, go with quest 2, just notice i saw people report elite headstrap break so maybe... just keep out of it for now
wait for new AMD GPU, they can be good value to compete against RTX
i am going to buy rift s nonetheless, i have a 4 year warranty with it
Should I get the 64 Gb or 250?
We compared Stormland on my 1070Ti (pls dont judge) and friends 2060, 2060 crushed my 1070 so...
Seems skipping a gen seems more appropriate?..
Vr hat is free
Quest 2 is best for money what u can get now, good visual, good performance, no cables...
U just need to give up on your personal data
Lega should I get 64 Gb or 250 for the quest 2
Tbh, your don't even need VR; it's free on Steam
i aint buying quest 2, i want a PC vr headset. not a on the go one
Dm me if you wanna play vr
@marsh idol u can use usb c cable to link to PC and u have PCVR
so quest2 is OP cause it can be tetherless or PCVR
yes, but its not the same and there will always be a delay
Plz
Not really
jelly like
i used quest with link before, no delay
@lega should I get quest 2 64 gb or 250?
@brazen mirage you just reminded me that i should open a bug report for this which i just did :P https://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports/p/world-loading-progress-bar-numbers-incorrect
Fusl pls no, its good xD
@median maple judging how much games take up space these days, more the merrier i guess, but if u play pcvr mainly it will take it from pc space so... up to u
cool, theres an addon to let you use vive straps with quest2
you can use vive straps with any pcvr just need lighthouse and spacecalibrate
Yea.. There is also the 150 plus $ difference
I use 1 lighthouse and it works just fine
linus also said it felt "jelly like"
Not 360 tracking but my room is very small, like my playspace is 1x1meters at most
lighthouse about 1.8m above ground, 50 deg point downwards, good coverage
i have a 2x3 play space
The price of vive stuff isnt issue, the availability is 
thats the thing, i dont want lighthouses, and rift s is just the best option for me
Can anyone help on chat I’m new dm me
Whats up new im dad
stock vive also has a bad design with it's cable because
Can anyone help on chat I’m new dm me
because it goes over the top strap it eventually kills the cable
because it puts tension on it
Can anyone help on chat I’m new dm me
@marsh idol fbt is cool and stuff but it gets boring after while, test with kinect if u like it long run
fbt?
fullbodytracking
aka vive trackers on legs and hips
Rift S is cool but be aware of mic issue and bad Rift S HW design overall
I would go Quest/Quest2 over Rifft S any day tbh
Rift S has no HW IPD adjustment... just keep it in mind if ur IPD isnt around 64mm
i just wanna play vivecraft, vrchat and perhaps blade and sorcery
i have 63
im fine
it does have ipd adjustment
just software
I much prefered rift s over quest. My ipd is 59mm
My friend has 65mm had no issues but other with 69 say he couldnt adjust it properly
It has a much larger sweetsopt than quest
what headset you using lega
Talking about sweetspots... Vive Cosmos Elite laughs audibly
im on Rift S
Legends say Vive Cosmos Elite has something like Sweetspot, i tried that headset for 4 hours and it seems to be so small
That's due to the lenses being so far away on the elite. You can fix that by changing the headpadding
Although then its just equal to vive/pro
Vive is just not gonna break easy, vive is sorta easy pick but pricy
Index has all the new bells and whistles but controllers are reported to break
I'm getting a reverb g2
my little neighbors psvr gave me a blurry image but he had adjusted it the minimal ipd in his settings
Ergonomic wise Quest 2 is sooo bad compared to Quest
But rift S isnt perfect either. Most comfy for me was... original Vive
Quest 2 requires the elite strap
(with elite audiopstrap)
Isnt elite strap breaking easily (seen in some reddit posts alrdy)
Yeah deluxe audio strap is pretty much a must for vive
But also quest2 with elitestrap = quest1 price
But I wouldn't call it a very comfy headset regardless
Most comfortable to me was vive das/pro, then rift s, then lenovo explorer, quest, vive, odyssey worst
Most of my issues with vive comfort come from how it sits on my face
Is vrchat down for anyone ? I keep loading a few bars and then it sends me to the error world. Anyone know how to fix ?
Thanks in advance!
Vive is nobrainer for casual players
The face cushion thing kinda irritates the skin after a while for me, and my rubber nose cover fell off so nose keeps touching the plastic too
Index is very comfy and nice for all the guys needed most and coolest
Is vrchat down for anyone ? I keep loading a few bars and then it sends me to the error world. Anyone know how to fix ?
Thanks in advance!
@grizzled atlas Right click VRChat in Steam, Properties, Set launch options, fill in "vrchat://launch?ref=vrchat.com&id=wld_97fda4a1-f820-4f09-a88c-2d2a95b668f7:1~friends", this will set your starting world to the Old Hub.its a soft reset from spawn at least might not work but worth a shot
Rift S is cool intro into VR
vive cosmos elite is still comfy, thats why i like it
Isn't g2 supposed to be the mid tier headset, if everything goes well
depends if u can differentiate 70% to 100% ofresolution, i cant so i dont mind
Yeah. G2 has everything going for it other than the contorllers
Quest 2 would be entry level because casuals wouldn't care about facebook stuff as much
g2 requires 1080 at least, soo yeah midtier set but require powerful HW
I'm getting a G2
So it's just a good entry headset
@grizzled atlas Right click VRChat in Steam, Properties, Set launch options, fill in "vrchat://launch?ref=vrchat.com&id=wld_97fda4a1-f820-4f09-a88c-2d2a95b668f7:1~friends", this will set your starting world to the Old Hub.its a soft reset from spawn at least might not work but worth a shot
@grim tusk
Thanks! I will try it now 🤔
Yeah those wmr controllers look kinda eh
u can always pair with Knuckles
G2 is perfect for most people. Just in vrchat you can't do hand gestures with finger sensing
i think some guys did tutorial on valve index controllers with G2



