#vrchat-general-2

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solar dew
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are crashers allowed

faint skiff
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I thought those still didnt go aywher?

vocal shard
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they go to the moderation team

faint skiff
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@solar dew obviously not lol

solar dew
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ok so will reporting the player do anything besides make me look like a butthurt 9 year old

vocal shard
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@solar dew report the player with option Avatar > Malicious

solar dew
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they crashed my game

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cant exactly do that

vocal shard
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I've developed a habit of screenshotting names whenever I go around dangerous waters to help for later

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i've developed a habit of just grabbing the user ids out of memory dumps RengeShrug

faint skiff
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@vocal shard its supposed to, but i didnt think they actually worked

vocal shard
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it does work if your session authcookie isnt invalid

faint skiff
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also ireported a crasher and client user with a video over a month ago and nothin ever happened

solar dew
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memory dump whAt

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hmm

vocal shard
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How do you know nothing ever happened?

solar dew
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are antishaders against the rules

vocal shard
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@faint skiff have you received a reply from the ticket system?

ruby needle
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anti shaders?

solar dew
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i think thats what they're called

faint skiff
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@vocal shard yep

solar dew
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some guy said an antishader bubble blocks out animations and everything, including the vrchat options menu apparently

vocal shard
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also called "safety bubble"

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at least thats what a lot of people i know calls them

ruby needle
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i expect that to be hard to do without influencing others

solar dew
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yeah this makes me want a safety bubble now

vocal shard
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as far as one of the admins has told me, they are fine if you dont abuse their powers

faint skiff
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Basically anything that fucks with other users is a no-no. The fact you have to ask seems odd.

solar dew
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safety bubble + normal security settings + almost invisible avatar = fun for me?

faint skiff
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Turn off custom animations for other users, that solves 99% of issues.

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If that "bubble" affects other users, then its not a good idea.

solar dew
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y'all know how to do anti shaders tho?

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oh btw right before they crashed me i turned off anims

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i had normal shield and they crashed me

vocal shard
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It's not hard for a shader to overrender and invade on the layer VRChat's menus operate on

umbral eagle
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For anyone interested it looks like B&H Photo Video just got stock of some Oculus Rift S's. Just got an email notification from them 👌🏻

old oar
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Hia everyone!

marsh grail
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Howdy

old oar
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How's you this day?

marsh grail
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Just fine, how are you doing?

vocal shard
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ive noticed that invites and requests are becoming a bug where you request off someone or invite them once or multiple times but it isnt being delivered to that said person?

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basically it wont pop up in there menu regardless of whatever status is showing

wary hollow
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@vocal shard yea have the same issue thought it was then ignoring me but no way all my friends list ignored

vocal shard
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I wanted to go in as a certain someone with a nice, clean stache before- but noo people would act like it's the end of the world if I did

tribal crater
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Gay

vocal shard
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I'm anti gay

old oar
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I'm doing pretty well Kowai, thanks for asking! ^^

marsh grail
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That’s great man!

vocal shard
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sleep, water, and some medicine

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mostly sleep though

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Meanwhile I had a lucid dream today

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You'll die if you don't sleep right now

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not joking either

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The longest recorded time without sleep is approximately 264 hours, or just over 11 consecutive days.

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you're hallucinating

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literally you need to sleep

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quit thinking and get off electronics

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it's easier to redirect your thoughts to your breathing

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as an alternative to not thinking

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because degeneracy is bad

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already has proven to decay society morally and socially

lavish sage
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-+-03

frank sequoia
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Degeneracy according to who? Moderation is key. It's not the poison, its the dose that gets you.

jaunty blaze
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Someone can help me with my safety configuration in vrchat ?

vocal shard
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whoever I was talking to deleted their messages... or was banned?

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Did i do something wrong?

fickle beacon
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Hey caan someone authorize me towards the karereoke one?

scenic mesa
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Anyone know if the dark waters worlds are still working after the update?

remote wave
heady snow
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idk who to ask but i need help finding an avatar or at least know if its a public one

sacred mortar
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Same here. I need to find the creator of Miko_Panda Boy, or someone have the file ? :/

rigid moss
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hi

bold hemlock
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hello! Any tips for a new player in vrchat? I play on the htc vive

meager solstice
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I suggest playing without comfort and holoport on

west yoke
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You should make a VRChat account when possible, most people turn off personal space as it hides people that come too close to you which can be annoying sometimes.

bold hemlock
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Okay thanks. i already turned off personal space and have a vrchat account. Whats the difference? also what does comfort do

west yoke
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comfort turning makes it so your view in VR snaps when you turn with the controller

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instead of doing it smoothly

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It's harder to get motion sick this way but most VR "veterans" don't like it.

bold hemlock
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ahh ok

clever gale
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Heyo people

meager solstice
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Hi

clever gale
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I was wondering if anyone knows where can I find that funny avatar of Jacksepticeye (if the world exists)

midnight crown
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Oh god

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The avatar we've all come to hate, i would hope there isnt a world for it

west yoke
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Yeah that avatar was pretty annoying

misty crypt
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hey i've got a developer question, can i ask here?

vocal shard
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I don't know
did you try to ask ?

misty crypt
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I came up with an idea for dynamic quieting/volume reduction to focus on certain people (inverse muting) but I'm not sure if its possible to do in the SDK.

clever gale
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Well, I see that anyone doesn’t know, that’s good

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Just wanted to check

meager solstice
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@clever gale Rum Ham’s world

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Just type in Rum Ham

clever gale
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Oh well someone knows then

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Well thank u 👍

misty crypt
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are there any decent movie theatres in VRChat that are PC and quest supported?

lean portal
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are periods allowed to be at the end of a username / am i allowed to have a space before a single period at the end of my username?

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ive been trying to change it for a while now but i cant get it to work

pine marsh
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u cant change keybinds right?

vocal shard
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hey dev team can u fix objects breaking the instance the collisions cause the instance to crash

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sure, you want a coffee and a foot massage with that ?

pine shell
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how accurate is the great pug's height chart?

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beside the standing mirror

midnight crown
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theres a height chart?

west yoke
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Oh I see what they're talking about

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Yeah there is a height chart but it's the first time I've seen it

vocal shard
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Hey guys sorry about being creepy

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Can you please forgive me

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I kind of snapped

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Sorry about that guys

sonic bramble
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.

vocal shard
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what huh

crude shell
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Hey guys, how's everyone doing?

sonic bramble
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I am a newbie

queen mango
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I would suggest following the #rules before you can ask for forgiveness. For starters, don't act creepy. Second, don't roleplay in this server. @vocal shard

vocal shard
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this quarantine has ruined my sleep schedule

sonic bramble
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Ok thx

queen mango
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Well, welcome to the server. Have you been playing VRChat? @sonic bramble

vocal shard
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When I was on I was playing it

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I read the rules

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hazbin hotel more like hazbin homo-tel

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BRO I just remembered something

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me and my friends were playing murder 2 before and we kept shooting each other if we were the detective and like, other people got caught in our line of sight right, this one dude DDOSed one of my friends because of it

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lmAO we love toxic people

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Ok?

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technically Angel is a guy who is gay and I’m not being racist or sexist about it

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But for me I’m not

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i respect lbgq

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Also Elire and Xiexe

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wanna be friends

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And I promise I will be a good friend

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It’s your choice if you want to or not

half slate
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to play vr do you recommend a 1060?

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i mean with the rift s

west yoke
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As far as I know a 1060 Ti doesn't exist

half slate
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well i dont know the name

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the 1060

west yoke
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A 3 GB version or 6 GB one?

half slate
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3gb

west yoke
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That's a bit low, it would work but you may see stuttering in VR

half slate
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or what other do you recommend?

west yoke
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For a more stable experience a GPU with at least 6 GB of VRAM so like the GTX 1660, RTX 2060, RX 5600 XT

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Again a 1060 3 GB will be okay, I used to use one with a Rift CV1 but at times the experience wasn't exactly great due to a lack of VRAM causing low FPS until I restarted VRChat and SteamVR I did notice that running VRChat from the oculus app instead did help lower VRAM usage but this was about a year ago or so.

magic magnet
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I can't get banned for making a public model if the cooch and nipples are cutout right?

broken plover
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as long as theyre not visible (or better not even on the texture) then I think you should be good

frosty veldt
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Best practice is that models should look like a mannequin when naked.

broken plover
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^

magic magnet
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I have it completely cutout

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I've been banned twice so far for NSFW models but none of them have been textured, onlly on the inside but I know public models that haven't been banned that use the same exact base that I do

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and it's not even textured on the inside, it's just skin colored

viscid totem
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are the vrchat servers dying? can't load in anymore

vocal shard
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What servers you tryin to get into? Or is it the actual game?

viscid totem
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game

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restarted it and now only get past login and than a timeout

vocal shard
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Weird, have you tried running nothin but the game? Like no extra apps are open?

viscid totem
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i litterally restarted the game, can't have been anything else

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closed game, booted it up

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now poof

vocal shard
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Does it say anything before it closes?

viscid totem
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just empty blue void

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followed by a timeout

vocal shard
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Weird

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Uninstall --> Reinstall?

viscid totem
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hell no

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not doing that xd

vocal shard
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Why not xd?

viscid totem
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dont wanna redownload all those worlds and avatars, just painstaking

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ah ok, yes, desktop works

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perfect xd

vocal shard
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vrchat is stuck loading.

viscid totem
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for me its fixed now, at least after switching to desktop instead of vr xD

stark raven
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gremlins

vocal shard
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humm?

stark raven
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i am in

vocal shard
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it's in vrmode for me lol

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working now thanks.

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Desktop mode be supreme today lol

plush axle
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is it normal for everyone's avatar to remain on 0% loading and taking ages to load when i join a world?

vocal shard
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Yessir

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It all depends on how many people, how big and complex is the world, and how complex their avatars are, I think

broken plover
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if you have slow internet and its taking forever to load 1 or 2 peoples avatars then every other avatar is in the queue and stays on 0% until the 1st two people are done loading

plush axle
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Fair enough, any particular fix to make it faster?

vocal shard
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Mine is fast but my graphics card is bad to load everything

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Just like Destiny

plush axle
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I even have safety options set to normal so i don't take ages to load everyone's shaders

vocal shard
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Also is it normal for when you get really close to someone their avatar vanishes

west yoke
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Turn off personal space

vocal shard
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Jolly good

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Personal space is annoying

west yoke
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Yeah, I’m sure like 95% of users or more turn it off

vocal shard
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It makes the experience annoying and less good

full elk
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Nothing got fixed so far...
(Buggy skins)

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And I've uninstalled and reinstalled the game a few times and still...

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Nothing

bleak lily
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Nice to came here

harsh silo
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morning

near night
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I found a nice skin in this game but I wanted to change one of the emotes (It plays music and I want to change the song)

How might I go through doing this?

patent veldt
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I am building a new pc and wanted to know if I can run VR chat with r5 3600 and 1660 super?

ruby needle
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Yeah that will work

broken plover
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yes that should be able to run vr

patent veldt
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ok thanks

ruby needle
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make sure to pick fast ram for it, 3200mhz (or higher Mhz) with CL16 (or lower CL Value) and 16gb minimum

patent veldt
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x HyperX FURY DDR4 3200MHz 16GB Kit (2x8GB)?

ruby needle
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if it's CL16 sure

broken plover
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just looked it up. Its CL16

patent veldt
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yep I just did. it is

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thanks again 🙂

violet gull
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I want to crai.
Trying to make my own world (one that is not the Velvet Room) and I'm failing hard ;w;

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(I just have not enough creativity to know what to put into the world :V)

vocal shard
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are the issues the reson no one is in the worlds

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i join a world and theres no people

idle nova
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Is your game updated?

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If you're on an outdated version of the game you won't be able to see people who have updated

subtle glen
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Am I the only one constantly being timed out the loading screen doesn't show anything now I'm restarting the game

little plover
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same here

vocal shard
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That just means they are nuisances

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They were reported for being assholes

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So they aren't allowed to talk to anyone or use avatars basically

small flume
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I'm getting timed out aswell constantly. its been the 4th time now today for me

subtle glen
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Same

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I've only been playing for 2 hours npw

vocal shard
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Time to uninstall and reinstall XD

small flume
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i've been playing all day and yesterday it was fine. no issues. so im asuming it must be server side

subtle glen
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I don't have the time for that was watching a movie and this pc is slow as hell

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How long would it take to reinstall

small flume
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depends on your download speed

slow wasp
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^^

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i just kept retryin

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works for me

subtle glen
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Same but kept crashing and now I can't get back

small flume
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just got back in VRChat sometimes its just waiting for it to get back in

slow wasp
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^

vocal shard
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someone should post an announcement that the current problems arent caused by vrchat but by liberty global (a large transit isp in europe) affecting many different enduser isps at the same time

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@hexed birch If they are grey, with a vrcStop in the middle of their avatar, then you shouldn't be able to hear them I think, but they can hear you. I'm not sure about the avatar thing cause I've only seen it once so you may be right.

tacit plank
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Anyone have their vive pro sound quality be bad at times, and turning good after turning the linkbox off and on again?

surreal bear
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does anyone know of a world with a bunch of ugandan knuckles avatars

tacit plank
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Apparently it's because there's two versions of the sound drivers: Speaker (vive pro mutimedia) and Vive pro (Nvidia HD audio)
The mic seems to change as well, sometimes I'm low pitch, other times it's fairly high and totally different, apparently

surreal bear
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that isnt same model different color

vocal shard
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Hey, I can hear game sounds and menu sounds but I cant hear anyone talking and it doesnt even show the voice logo. Anyone know how to fix?

broken plover
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if it doesnt show the icon that theyre talking then theyre not talking afaik

vocal shard
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I go to the black cat public filled with people and hear nothing but the background music, they're probably talking

drifting prism
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possibly check your sound settings to see if you have Voice volume turned up. Menu -> Settings -> Audio Volume -> Voices

near night
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I found a nice skin in this game but I wanted to change one of the emotes (It plays music and I want to change the song)

How might I go through doing this?

vocal shard
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I thought someone told you how earlier?

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You can't change an avatar like that since it's someone else's that they are just sharing, your best bet is to make on yourself, or get in contact with the avatar Creator and see if they might give you a copy to modify

languid beacon
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I’ve heard oculus can use the Index’s disable gesture toggle button via editing SteamVR bindings, but I don’t see it as a choice. Can you really do this? If so how?

gilded helm
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hm

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Is it not there in the vrchat bindings?

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It might require OVRAS

vocal shard
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@hexed birch clearing cache pretty much

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then restart the game

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settings>advanced settings>clear downloaded cache

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inside vrc ofc

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then restart the game

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it can be done like that but its a bit harder

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I know where it is but there are some things you don't wanna delete inside of it

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its more simple that way

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yeah usually clear it after 10gb

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can help with performance sometimes

rough pewter
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I have a question regarding steam bindings with the oculus touch controllers. I have an avatar (not one of my creations but one I found) that pulls out weapons when my thumbs touch the joysticks, so I went to the steam bindings and set "joystick touch" to "none". Now when I touch the sticks nothing happens, which is good, but when I move the joysticks to walk or turn the camera my avatar will pull out it's weapons.

I guess the best way to word my question is: Is it possible for me to set the steam bindings so that moving the sticks doesn't activate the touch sensors on the sticks?

gray citrus
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Ello ^^

vocal shard
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@rough pewter you need to have your fingers resting on the trigger and the grip button at the same time that you touch the stick. The touch Controllers aren't configured like "this button activates this gesture"

It tries to read your fingers position on all the available sensors at the same time and use those combinations to track the gestures. If you have your fingers resting on the trigger and grip button while your thumb is touching the stick, that should be the neutral hand position and no animations should play unless you configured the avatar to play an animation on the blank gesture slot..

karmic pasture
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so im in a theater like world that supports live streams and im wondering what the difference between normal sync and live sync is?

fast marsh
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huh

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it said i cant post till im approved

next rose
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Whenever I die in lost teddies the game breaks

vocal shard
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@karmic pasture says right in the name. normal sync is for normal videos. live sync is for live videos.

karmic pasture
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Mmm. But this server is just for live streams. There is another, made by the same fellow, and is the same exact thing except its made for videos.

Also, live streams work with both options working. I was wondering if it was just a diffetent way vrchat synced the video globally vs locally.

rigid moss
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yo

rare current
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whats up

wary hollow
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👋

agile crown
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When can I upload my own avatar into vrchat

lucid lava
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When the magical algorithm decides you've played long enough to be trustworthy

rare current
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when you become a new user

wary hollow
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When you are at New user

agile crown
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Okay thanks you

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Thank you *

wary hollow
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👍

vocal shard
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WHAT IT DOooo man I watch too much tik tok

blissful solar
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why does the cake have a tomato on it?

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in the pug

pure oak
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Because its a fruit cake and tomatos are fruit idk

civic plume
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whats latest version vrchat is using now for unity.

spice geyser
rigid crescent
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I genuinely don't understand the new Comm. Guidelines addition

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were pedestals, portals, images, video, and audio not already something the world creator was responsible for? Or am I misunderstanding something?

sterile summit
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no one cares kid

hearty pagoda
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Hello

vocal shard
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where would output/crash logs be located for reporting stuff

deft girder
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!outputlog

floral flaxBOT
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You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt

vocal shard
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ty

hearty pagoda
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Hey can someone answer me a quick question

vale wave
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how quick can u ask it ? @hearty pagoda

civic plume
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@spice geyser thanks imma save that to my chrome bar lol

uncut trail
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Why are streamers in VRChat streaming movies yet breaking TOS

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aka DMCA laws

umbral reef
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because the companies who do that dont give a fuck and dont strike them down
And companies are only supposed to take action once the copyright holder tells them to

bold hemlock
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Any good maps in Vrchat? I’m so bored playing the same maps again and again

vale wave
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play hds

rigid crescent
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That and because no one reports it. Report it and something might happen.

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but odds are no one of worth is streaming a movie anyway lol

pseudo bobcat
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If they're streaming the movies on twitch you can just report the channel

vale wave
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why is it forbidden

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i mean ,

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why is it not forbidden on vrc that world

broken plover
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maybe it is but nobody cares about it so its not taken down

vale wave
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monsters

umbral reef
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It is forbiden
But unless the copyright holder asks vrc to remove it they wont
As they dont have to remove it on there own and it can be even harmful for them to do so

sly fog
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I'm so bored I'm just watching a let's play in the game

devout rock
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no

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denied

sly fog
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Sad

devout rock
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Sex from 1.5m away, after meeting someone in a club that is closed that can contain no more than 2 people....... Kinda hard. #covid

vale wave
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sex from 1,5 m is easy for me ,

wary void
zinc stratus
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hey anyone know any good program for mute people? text to speech? I was playing this game and showed some recording to a friend of mine and she wanted to play it but they were born mute and there doesn't seem to be any built in TTS or even text chat stuff

vocal shard
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hEY yALL

empty citrus
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idk if im allowed to ask this but... does anybody know any good thottie avatar worlds

vale wave
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hey anyone know any good program for mute people? text to speech? I was playing this game and showed some recording to a friend of mine and she wanted to play it but they were born mute and there doesn't seem to be any built in TTS or even text chat stuff
@zinc stratus dont be a mute mostly works

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idk if im allowed to ask this but... does anybody know any good thottie avatar worlds
@empty citrus my ex is good in finding them

broken plover
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[...] but they were born mute [...]
roy you missed something

west yoke
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Well royality the person did say their friend was born mute don't think just not being a mute can fix that

empty citrus
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well uh you wanna lemme talk to your ex then

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i wanna find some

broken plover
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you can download a text to speech program and then use something like a virtual audio cable to redirect the tts to a virtual microphone and use that. Most vr mutes just gesture to communicate

vale wave
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wait was born mute?

west yoke
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some people are born without the ability to speak

empty citrus
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does anybody else know any thottie avatar worlds

wide cove
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i saw someone with a TTS in vrchat once, idk exactly how they did it

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imma see if i can find the dude's discord and ask him

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@zinc stratus mind if i DM you once i get a response?

faint skiff
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He would have just been using any TTS system and voicemod/any program that lets you reroute audio.

acoustic hatch
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Hi

wide cove
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that could be possible

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you could also reroute audio using hardware on most desktop PCs and an aux cable

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now that i think of it i should design a couple avatars that allow mutes to write stuff in the air on both desktop and vr, shouldnt be too hard

vocal shard
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hey! Anyone else having issues logining via steam? was fine last night now all of a sudden no dice

languid beacon
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Does vrchat support shape keys with multiple keyframes instead of just a beginning and end

west yoke
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Pretty sure, I've uploaded mmd dances with hundreds of shape key's on it in the past.

uncut trail
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Virutial Markets ETA ?

west yoke
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In about 12 hours, it's 11:04 PM over here, it starts at 11:00 AM JST

vocal shard
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i hope vrc do the bann wave again a friend of mine getting harrassing and the clind user killed his internet wen he join a world from one of his friends

ruby needle
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Ban waves are more mod client things, things like you mentioned will be taken care of without a wait when properly reported before a wave tho. cirPrise

vocal shard
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I will never understand those people

wide cove
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yeah, and its annoying how there is (or was) no feasible way to get rid of them because of bypassing kicks and votekicks

vocal shard
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Wow this game sometimes feels like it's designed to keep some assholes in lol

gilded helm
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Votekicks never work regardless of clients anyway

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Most client users weren't assholes because you don't notice them

ruby needle
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If they used a client, they where still bad users.

vocal shard
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This is definitely extremely one-sided, but all the client users I've met are just jerks. Just runnin around and screamin random things all the time.

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And whenever someone tells them to stop, it's always "f off" or "I can do what I want", or "it's just a game chill".

languid beacon
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@gilded helm "Most client users weren't assholes because you don't notice them"
false. This is an excuse given by modified client users. They all use it to do things they shouldn't. Otherwise they wouldn't be using it.

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No one violates ToS and uses a modified client exclusively "for protection" it's just BS excuses.

vocal shard
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Not entirely my man

languid beacon
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Entirely my dude

vocal shard
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There are VERY few people that would do what you say they don't

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VERY few

languid beacon
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The people you describe don't exist. It's always "i know a friend who" sure sure

vocal shard
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Ah you're that kinda person okay okay

languid beacon
#

you don't know what they do

vocal shard
#

I've kinda seen it firsthand so eh

languid beacon
#

Good to know you use a modified client then.

vocal shard
#

No I met someone the other day that uses one

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He was being a asshole lol

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I'm on your side on this one, just my thought there's very few good people out there somewhere

languid beacon
#

If they were good they wouldn't violate ToS

vocal shard
#

True

languid beacon
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When they get banned there won't be any justification they can say that shouldn't have been

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loading screens warn that you'll get banned for it

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I'm not stupid or naive, I know how commonplace it is, but if they get the boot no one's going to be able to say they didn't have it coming.

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wither it was "just for protection" or not

gilded helm
#

@languid beacon There were many reasons for why people used clients that weren't "just protection"

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they weren't banned either because they're not retarded and shit to get banned

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I can't say that breaking the ToS is justafiable, I'm just saying that they weren't all assholes

languid beacon
#

I'd argue they're still spreading it's use and encouraging others to use it.

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Who won't be so nice

gilded helm
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I'm not gonna be responsible for what others do

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and I don't think most people would either

lunar falcon
#

bruh client users are doo doo rn

languid beacon
#

Well when the client inevitably screws up and becomes detectable you're up to VRChat dev if they want to wipe their modded client users out or not. /shrug Me personally, I like my account.

gilded helm
#

That's irrelevant to what I said though

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Them knowing the risks has nothing to do with their behavior in game

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The ban waves are mostly because of the clients spamming their api or idiots using retarded mods

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It is stupid to compare the users who just want more avatar slots/dynamic bones to the people who are assholes, because you only see one type

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Although yes, they are both breaking the ToS, but that is not the point.

vocal shard
#

this kid seems like the teacher's pet

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After all this talkin you just ended him so swiftly lol

gilded helm
#

I won't encourage people to use clients, but I'm not gonna pretend like there isn't a reason for why people would use mods

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Some understandable, some less

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16 avatar slots, lmao.

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Not everyone wants to limited for absolutely no reason, and have to make a world to put their public avatars in. There are many ways that the devs could make these "harmless" mods obsolete, which I hope that they do.

languid beacon
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I hope you are aware you are stating you use a modified client in the official vrchat discord...

gilded helm
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I hope that you're know that you are making a fool out of yourself, because I don't

vocal shard
#

Why are you acting like a security guard or somethin adeon?

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i don't really think this kid even cares about the rules, he just wants to feel powerful

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So what people take risks

languid beacon
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I'm not I'm just telling him to stop before he gets himself booted lol

gilded helm
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I've been here longer than you

languid beacon
#

That's possible but not really relevant?

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DK2 btw

vocal shard
#

you should become a cop, you'd be good at planting drugs on people

gilded helm
#

The VRChat devs and mods aren't guards in the gulag, you can state whatever opinion you have about the game

vocal shard
#

justice is served once again

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you should become a cop, you'd be good at planting drugs on people
Not the worst idea vrcThinking

languid beacon
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I've seen people yeeted here for advocating modified clients

gilded helm
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I literally said that I didn't advocate for them

languid beacon
#

okie dokie

gilded helm
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Reread everything I said and then you can continue

languid beacon
#

understandable, have a nice day

vocal shard
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he doesn't need to, he already knows everything in the universe

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very popular guy, I'm sure

gilded helm
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Cause you've been missing the whole point, and sayign that I use clients just because I have another opinion than you

languid beacon
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It's more so that we both know you use one but obviously you're not allowed to say so.

gilded helm
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@hasty rune haven't gotten my adrenaline kick for the day, so getting heated is a good way to start the day

vocal shard
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♡ calm down, hugs ♡

languid beacon
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I wasn't aware this was a heated discussion, I'm leaned back just vibing in animal crossing and eating microwaved pizzahut from yesterday. I need to re-read this convo in a heated tone I was misinterpreting.

gilded helm
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I don't use a client, but I'm not gonna be stupid and act like there aren't reasons for why people use them

vocal shard
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Adeon just keep vibin

gilded helm
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It was a joke.

vocal shard
#

I'm just listen to "stayin alive" right now anyways lmao

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The problem for me isn't that people want more things, its when people use clients to take matters into their own hands to change limits, not caring why there are limits in the first place. For example the number of avatar favorites was a compromise between the creator side of vrchat, and the normal players side. Since avatar world Creators were very opposed to having avatar favorites, and adding them created a huge upsetness

languid beacon
gilded helm
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@vocal shard Avatar creators tanabae

vocal shard
gilded helm
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They sound pretty retarded in that case then

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"Oh let's limit users for no reason at all"

vocal shard
#

don't forget jonn
world creators > avatar creators

gilded helm
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world creators don't kill your pc

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:^)

broken plover
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If you could favorite unlimited avatars, avatar world creators would be upset because there was no need to visit their world anymore

vocal shard
#

I don't see an issue with that

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Not when the whole way the game has been played was already set for years. One of the main focus of avatar worlds was that people always had to constantly return to the same worlds to use the avatars, and in turn it helped a lot with the world Creators traffic... But once favorites were added, that drastically changed that

frosty veldt
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Rest in peace avatar rewards from world puzzles

gilded helm
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me neither, lol

vocal shard
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So many avatar worlds don't have the same traffic they used to

languid beacon
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I think, ideally, the solution should be infinite favorites, but any given asset can be tagged as "pedestal only" and enforced serverside so modified clients can't cheat their way around it.

vocal shard
#

Even with the current limits, it changed the game a lot

gilded helm
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Not gonna lie, but I rather not go into avatar worlds to get avatars

languid beacon
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then don't!

gilded helm
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but that is my personal opinion

languid beacon
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Should be up to the avatar creator to restrict it how they want. If you don't want to go to their avatar world, don't use the avatar

west yoke
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The problem I see with that adeon is if you find a avatar you really like but it's marked as pedestal only, in the event you want to change to a avatar for a bit and switch back you'd have to go back to that world to get it.

ruby needle
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It's hard to understand that there is more then just what you as the player side want tho, is it? cirHuh

vocal shard
#

^

frosty veldt
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Would kinda blow if someone could go to your world, favorite every avatar, and never go back

languid beacon
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Perhaps the pedistal itself can have an exclusive "add to favorites" button and the server would at least check that you are in the world at the moment

rough pulsar
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The thing is the solution is simple: Another avatar type, reward, which can only be got from a pedestal. It can be favourited, it cannot be cloned.

ruby needle
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Other things people use clients for are often either super dirty fixes or features that are for very good reasons not in the game.

languid beacon
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Jinx Gallium

broken plover
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or pedestal only avatars will be saved after you restart the game, but once you use another avatar you have to go back to the world and get it again

vocal shard
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I mean, things could probably change now... The game has evolved from what it was

languid beacon
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Reward avatars are why avatar cloning made me sad face.. don't get me wrong, cloning is awesome, but no more reward avatars

rough pulsar
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Avatar cloning was horrid because of how it bypassed the (at the time) world avatar perf standards.

And the lack of "block avatar by id" feature because who the fuck wants to see the same screenshake bullshit for 3 weeks straight.

frosty veldt
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I still think we need avatar stats for public avatars. Like we have for worlds

gilded helm
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What I don't get is that if this was the reason, then why was "only 16 favorites allowed" the solution for that

ruby needle
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it's called a compromise cirHuh

languid beacon
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It was zero. Then it was three. I can't believe people are complaining about 16 tbh

rough pulsar
#

Encourages people to go around avatar worlds, or get so pissed off they say fuck this bullshit and fire up unity and assemble their own.

frosty veldt
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Yeah you get infinite slots when you upload :)

rigid moss
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yo

gilded helm
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I have the second, but starting Unity makes me just want to kill myself

rough pulsar
#

Downside to that is lots of people don't care and we get vrcPerfVeryPoor mmd crap everywhere

languid beacon
#

You mean the same robot avatar everywhere

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why is that so popular 🙃

frosty veldt
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All the game needs is more spiders

gilded helm
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vrcPerfVeryPoor is what we already have

rough pulsar
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That's what I said 😉

indigo fern
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well, the thing about most avatar worlds is, the main focus is the avatars, not the world

broken plover
#

I don't even know why you'd want more than 16 favorites. If you want alot of avatars, then you might aswell make them yourself. But I honestly dont see the reason why you would need more than 16 slots. Just find an avatar you like and use that. Maybe a few alternative avatars but imo you really dont need that much.

odd blaze
#

Think 10 of 280? avatars i have are very poor, mostly poor unfortunaly (dynamic bones 33~70)

gilded helm
#

mm let's hang out in the avatar world @indigo fern

languid beacon
#

for a long time my favorite list was just 16 different Sans fanart profile pictures. I didn't even wear them. It just made streaming funny.

gilded helm
#

And yes, that was an excuse to @ you

frosty veldt
#

Real thing I only care about for vrcPerfVeryPoor is polys materials and bones as everything else is dynamically hidden

languid beacon
#

If something is dynamically hidden I feel it's rating should be reduced

ruby needle
#

that'd take away motivation to actually make your avatar good

indigo fern
#

nah, just have real time ratings again in addition to everything non active

rough pulsar
#

I think it does? It at least lets it pass the perf blocker if it can be.

languid beacon
#

It gets past the pref blocker but it still gets rated as very poor

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it could have been stripped to excellent but you wouldn't know

ruby needle
#

your avatar still remains very poor tho

gilded helm
#

What I like about this is that we managed to wake up Gallium

rough pulsar
#

I just wish the perf blocker had a "don't block for property" so I could allow over-poly avatars with everything else stripped.

languid beacon
#

True, but I see the rating as a lag meter more than a optimization meter. I want to know who's lagging me in that instant

rough pulsar
#

Once I'm done with this pizza I'm fucking off back to skyrim

frosty veldt
#

Non optimized does not mean it's a bad avatar. Some things you can't really optimize

gilded helm
#

I reached the goal that I wanted

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for this server to not be vrcSkull

west yoke
#

What things can't be optimized is what I'm wondering

ruby needle
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@frosty veldt that's why some things might not belong onto an avatar. cirHuh

languid beacon
#

_> I've seen 7500 "medium" rated quest avatars that look higher detailed than 120,000 "very poor" PC avatars

west yoke
#

If a low poly model is made well it can look pretty good

rough pulsar
#

Those 120k poly models don't even need 90% of their geometry most of the time

indigo fern
#

a lot of mobile game models are blessed 🙏

frosty veldt
#

What's an example of something that shouldn't be on an avatar? That talk has always been backwards to me

gilded helm
#

do you guys not have phones?

vocal shard
#

No we have celluar devices

languid beacon
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i got a smart watch

rough pulsar
#

I'll have you know I transmit my communications via RFC 1149

indigo fern
#

sorry, i only play on my smart fridge

gilded helm
#

I only communicate through the word cheers

vocal shard
#

I'll have to ask the jedi council if I can borrow their phone for a minute

indigo fern
#

midichlorian mobile

rough pulsar
#

Still better service than fucking BT mobile

gilded helm
#

yall ready to show dem aliens some valve index?

vocal shard
#

Yo I'm ready to show them some desktop

languid beacon
#

I bought a quest and cancelled my valve index reservation tbh

vocal shard
west yoke
#

why would you do that though?

languid beacon
#

You think I'm gonna bring my PC onto their UFO?

west yoke
#

Bring a laptop

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ez

broken plover
#

Bring the aliens into your house

indigo fern
#

thats illegal

twin fractal
#

yes kidnap is illegal

vocal shard
#

But their not from this world

gilded helm
#

Did the ET kid get arrested then

indigo fern
#

they gotta get a passport like everyone else

languid beacon
#

They didn't come in via customs they get deported

indigo fern
#

or at least a workers visa

languid beacon
#

What was the movie where a UFO crashes in Arizona or something and after a while people just sort of stop caring and it becomes like an alien slums.

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That's pretty real

rough pulsar
#

District 9? that was Johannesburg South Africa

gilded helm
#

imma show them aliens some vodka

twin fractal
#

new bucket list activity. drink with aliens 👽

gilded helm
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@twin fractal You know what we should show aliens?

twin fractal
#

shut up

gilded helm
#

You know what we should show them?

vocal shard
#

Independence day?

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The movie?

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a 30 minutes video of an average session of vrchat so they'll yeet across the galaxy to be as far as possible from our degenerate planet ?

twin fractal
#

officially a member of Tuppergang now

gilded helm
#

@twin fractal abort

zinc stratus
#

@wide cove I don't, that would be nice. Thanks.

jolly gorge
#

Hey guys which headset is the best?

broken plover
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index is the best headset

jolly gorge
#

I’m shopping for one atm and use a pc right now

broken plover
#

but it also costs 1k

jolly gorge
#

If I do that I’ll lose a arm lmao

lucid lava
#

Personally I would snag a Vive. As far as I'm aware the Index base stations & peripherals are compatible, so that will let you sorta "piecemeal" upgrade into an Index over time to ease the cost burden.

wide cove
#

^ that is why im gonna go for a used vive kit when i upgrade my vr headset

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and not just index, but if you want something like a pimax headset too its compatible iirc

ruby needle
#

why a pimax when the Index it self is the better choice cirHuh

twin fractal
#

I don't know if I'd recommend vive in 2020

ruby needle
#

Definitely not.

wide cove
#

have you seen the pimax artisan's specs?

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its on par if not better than an index witha close pricepoint

ruby needle
#

Written spec's are great and all, but they allready haven't worked out on the first and second model

wide cove
#

i just wish valve did oled on the index rather than lcd

lucid lava
#

What's wrong with the Vive?

ruby needle
#

OLED isnt the holy grail tho and modern LCD's can be really good.
Both have advantages and disadvantages

#

@lucid lava well it's simply old tech, spec's are kinda low for the more recent headsets and you can only get it used so worn without any warranty of it breaking soonish

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If you have one, for sure keep using it

wide cove
#

also to be fair the a used vive can cost about as much as a brand new rift S but has far better tracking and upgradeability

wary hollow
#

vive has the option of FBT and index vive pro or cosmos elite

ruby needle
#

"Far better tracking" actually Rift S tracking is solid, and upgradability, well if used first gen tech lasts. cirPrise

twin fractal
#

also the worst headset (not) on the market

wide cove
#

also i still personally vastly prefer oled because of perfect black points and lack of motion blur

ruby needle
#

lack of motion blur? cirHuh

lucid lava
#

Huh, I actually wasn't aware they weren't selling it anymore. Guess it's just the Cosmos Elite now if you want something SteamVR compatible? That's actually kinda disappointing.

wide cove
#

some lower end LCDs have motion blur issues, im assuming the index doesnt but still

ruby needle
#

low end OLED's can also have that cirBaka

wide cove
#

my samsung odyssey was $200 used and fairly old has no motion blur

lucid lava
#

And the Elite's kit's only a little bit less than the Index kit anyway so jeez

ruby needle
#

dont get a Cosmos

lucid lava
#

Kinda glad I still have my Vive.

ruby needle
#

it's the worst deal you'll buy, exactly because of what you mentioned.

twin fractal
#

og vive isn't a bad headset but it feels silly recommending it just because it uses steamvr tracking

wide cove
#

whats wrong wiht steamvr tracking?

twin fractal
#

nothing. you misread that

ruby needle
#

Nothing, but the vive is outdated for that.
vive isn't bad if you got one and use it, but it's simply outdated and out of production

lucid lava
#

So I guess the salient point is this:

wide cove
#

oh

lucid lava
#

Probably any headset that supports SteamVR tracking will work, if you can find one on the lower end price-wise, and because of the SteamVR compatibility will let you sort of slowly upgrade into an Index over time instead of having to get it all at once.

wide cove
#

i still think steamvr's system is better, at least for me personally in the long-term, because it allows you to upgrade individual components without upgrading the entire thing

lucid lava
#

Yhup. For example my current plan is to snag the Index controllers first to replace my Vive wands, and then later I'll snag the Index headset to replace my Vive headset. Just a piece at a time :)

proper cape
#

ey imma run in every server (popular ones) and scream "WHERE ALL GONNA DIE" would anyone like to join me to mess with peeps

wary hollow
#

am cheering u from here

rigid crescent
#

I am wonder how vket will go with that whole avatar swapping bug

#

Where you just have a chance to crash when someone changes avatars

plush nymph
#

oh i thought it was just me that gets terrible lag when someones changing avatars

rigid crescent
#

I rerely get the issue but I do notice a lot of friends randomly crashing when avatars are swapped. It's like cursed RNG. Every time someone swaps you have a chance to crash lol

rancid moon
#

who else is playing vrchat

vocal shard
#

Lots of people

rancid moon
#

nice

vocal shard
#

It really is

plush nymph
#

lots of people is fun, tho having to have most of everyones avatars off or i'd die puts a slight damper

wise eagle
#

someone in this server ripped all my avatars using a client and I have proof. who should I contact about it?

broken plover
wise eagle
#

thx bud

jolly gorge
#

Shopping for a headset is rough lmao

abstract nymph
#

my game is so unplayable nothing loads and the keeps crashing

vocal shard
#

😔

gleaming pagoda
#

Anyone good with the Vive? I'm only getting output through the 3.5 jack on the headset in one ear. Not finding much luck on google

broken plover
#

do the headphones work fine on other devices?

gleaming pagoda
#

Yup

broken plover
#

then the 3.5 jack on the headset is probably broken. But you can get a usb to 3.5mm headphone jack adapter and plug it into the extra usb slot on the headset

gleaming pagoda
#

That's so obnoxious

#

But thank you

trim estuary
#

hello just joined this discord server xP

vocal shard
#

Welcome good sir!

young dagger
#

how do people feel about other people disabling special effects of other people

#

just curious

vocal shard
#

I think it's kinda a dick move but it's understandable for people with bad computers

trim estuary
#

i just wanna figure out some controls since im in PC desktop

#

and im playing a avatar called sonic dirb and i heard this guy can do a fast spindash move i dunno what the button it is on computer xP

broken plover
#

shift + f1 to f8

vocal shard
#

Yeah something should happen then

broken plover
#

(and shift + f1 is the default thing where everything is off/nothing happenes)

trim estuary
#

thank you!

proper cape
#

my screaming shall begin if yall see someone screaming "WERE ALL GONNA DIE" feel free to say hi to me XD

cold talon
#

yeah its not really enjoyable, especially for peps that have avatars with special effects on them. doing something only to find out that you look like a fool in front of them because they have your shaders blocked, it hurts

#

it still haunts me to this day

young dagger
#

@vocal shard even though there are crash avatars?

proper cape
#

and my computer might crash TvT

trim estuary
#

ok i figure it out but i glitched the map xP

vocal shard
#

Well how's everyone supposed to know it's a crash avatar until it crashes everyone?

cold talon
#

i mean, the way people usually avatar crash is by using particles since that is the easiest way, particle limiter fixes this, if someone uses a client tho, tough luck even with animations and shaders blocked they can still yeet you out

young dagger
#

what a toxic community it has, but i guess its good to know how non-crash avatars users feel

cold talon
#

tbh, haven't really encountered many crashers, i got crashed more times by accident during big dance animations or things like that

vocal shard
#

Yeah, I just don't understand the point of those crashers, OR the client users, OR the people that just scream and shout and let it all out

young dagger
#

@vocal shard what do you mean by client users?

vocal shard
#

Well from what I've heard there some things you can download that prevent you from being kicked from a world or killing people's internet and what not

gilded helm
#

ddosing will always be thing

young dagger
#

@vocal shard oh god now that's just hacking

gilded helm
#

It's not really client exclusive

cold talon
#

Well clients can vary, they range from quality of life improvements for the user to exploits and crashes, depends on the person using it

young dagger
#

though it kind of sounds immature, ( implements a way to prevent particle crash avatars), no you can't do that (uses other programs to bypass fix)

cold talon
#

For more info press 1, to cancel or go back press 5.

gilded helm
#

as for vote kicks, they barely work anyway

cold talon
#

oh pff, right forgot they even exist

young dagger
#

just make private worlds lol

cold talon
#

i think some clients have an auto crash when someone tries to kick them, aka they take down the entire lobby with them

vocal shard
#

That reminds me,

young dagger
#

oh my god that is immature, snowflakey to the next level

vocal shard
#

During vote kicks, can the person being voted against vote?

cold talon
#

nope

#

they don't get the notification about the vote at all

#

and yeah, pretty much script kiddies, they dont know how it works, they just downloaded some dlls and feel all mighty and powerful when they can do things other players cannot

young dagger
#

why would they have the rights to vote against a kick themselves lol

vocal shard
#

Cause it'd be hilarious if that was a thing lol

#

Like imagine if they only needed one more vote to kick someone, and the last vote was that guy!

young dagger
#

nay, if you are being a prick you can just get roasted immediately

#

or port them to a VR chat version where there is ONLY pricks and the game looks barren lol

#

but oh well good talk good talk. just curious about how it felt to have your particle disabled for a person

cold talon
#

banished to the kiddie chat vrcWOAH

vocal shard
#

If someone's being a jerk, I try to make them as angry as possible, by being as nice as possible lol

#

Then they rage quit and don't come back

young dagger
#

i just block them, and ignore their existance

vocal shard
#

Ah yes, the non-fun route

cold talon
#

nah nah nah, you have to crash them back vrcSmooSmart

young dagger
#

nay, don't need to deal with them. i made "buddies" with someone of vr chat. added me on discord. they got mad so i just blocked them. then they made another account just to type their life story to me

vocal shard
#

Didya block them again?

scenic hedge
#

Wazzup

vocal shard
#

Yeah it was

scenic hedge
#

There's stuff going on in public lobby right now

proper cape
#

how its going so far: the first attempt was a fail yet i did have a pokemon battle and got scared of a giant spider

vocal shard
#

Ralph, did you just @ everyone with the vrchatter role?

scenic hedge
#

Yes, he has chosen death

umbral reef
#

He tried to but failed

broken plover
#

ralph pinged the poor user called vrchatter :/

umbral reef
#

\Still god damn dumb for trying it

vocal shard
#

Oh thank god he's been spared

broken plover
#

there is also someone called VRChat on here lol

#

would also be funny if there was someone called "everyone" on this server

#

why are you pinging random users?

vocal shard
#

You'll get in trouble for that, stop

broken plover
#

ping @ active chat mod and see what happenes

vocal shard
#

"I double dare ya motha trucka say @, one more goddamn time"

gilded helm
#

i broke my chair

broken plover
#

f

green fog
#

ohai whats going on here

vocal shard
#

Not too much good sir

green fog
#

i kind of figured kek

vocal shard
#

Yep

#

(Raises bat)

#

(Lowers bat)

#

The fu-

#

I can't believe you actually did that

#

Imma show you what

#

goteem

twin cliff
#

can devs please put a dark mode to the UI

broken plover
#

isnt the ui already a bit dark?

vocal shard
#

Isn't the ui like dark blue?

#

Well prepare to make it four

#

lmao

wary hollow
#

@rocky horizon did you do something?

vocal shard
#

@wary hollow He @ ed everyone

wary hollow
#

oohh

vocal shard
#

Bruh I have evidence of you doin it and you saw it

wary hollow
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xD

vocal shard
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Salt intensifies

wary hollow
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🍚

vocal shard
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I'm takin you down if anyone asks

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lol

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yep

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Just kiddin

vocal spoke
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El. Psy. Congroo. Good luck

proper cape
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the game kept on crashing mission failed qwq

broken plover
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true

frozen sigil
#

how long does vmarket last?

broken plover
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I think until may 10th or something

midnight crown
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whats vmarket?

frozen sigil
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oh thank god i thought it was gonna be only for like a day

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matt its basicly a shopping center inside vrchat

gritty crater
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I believe Sega is doing a Virtual Market

frozen sigil
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is there like an official webside tor it or something?

lapis rain
#

does anyone know what the fuck is wrong with my htc vive? It shows me constantly error 208 and 108 - it won't turn on at all. It's constantly a red light /: I tried plugging usb and energy out probably 200 times and i reinstalled everything, i updated everything..

broken plover
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did you look up the error codes yet? If not then go to google and type "htc vive error 208" / "htc vive error 108"

lapis rain
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i did

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it all comes back to do exactly what i tried, and it doesn't help at all

lucid lava
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Did you try moving it to a different USB port? I ended up having to do that recently

lapis rain
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yeah

lucid lava
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hm.

vocal shard
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Did one of the lighthouses flash red?

lapis rain
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i tried plugging them into alot of diff spots nothing helps, i even tried to plug the hdmi direct into the pc

broken plover
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108 is headset not detected and 208 is hdmi not connected/detected. Did you update your graphics card drivers?

lapis rain
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yeahh i did updated it all i have this for 2 weeks now, i constantly try everything over and over again x.x it's just so frustraiting

rough pulsar
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Here's a wild one, try another HDMI cable, see if that changes anything.

lucid lava
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Also what video port do you have the Vive plugged into?

lapis rain
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i tried, i even brought a new one lmao

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i even brought a new link box, like at this point i am just tired

rough pulsar
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So that rules out cable hardware then.

lapis rain
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i didnt change anything to the settings, i never moved it. It just decided to die on me

rough pulsar
#

Driver fuckery fun time it is

cloud apex
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is there a way to know my HTC Trackers / Controllers charge % without putting my headset on?

vocal shard
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Hovor over the icon in steamvr's window and it should tell you the battery

cloud apex
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ah yeah, it kinda gives an icon of how charged it is, but not the actual %

vocal shard
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You can't see the % in the headset either though

cloud apex
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not normally, but threes software which lets you

ruby burrow
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The only method I know of personally to check an exact %, is using the OVR-Toolkit overlay.

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Puts a little display on your wrist that will let you check their status without opening any dashboard views.

cloud apex
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it doesnt show how charged it is when i mouseover it either

vocal shard
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anyone here happen to know the best way to stream VRChat on Oculus Rift S?

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Playing through the Oculus store or SteamVR?

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i use the game window for selfie cam - oculus mirror is the best solution i've found for streaming my vision, but the fov isn't great and it records oculus dash

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steamvr

shy sinew
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hey does anyone wanna be friends?

vocal shard
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openvr was choppy

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I've never had issues with choppiness

shy sinew
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I just got a quest and im looking for vrchat friends

vocal shard
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i switched to oculus mirror and it's much smoother

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but like i mentioned, the fov is much smaller than steamvr mirror and it shows oculus dash wish i'd rather not show on stream

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but steamvr mirror is choppy as heck

vocal shard
#

Hii

wise eagle
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Legit question, why would someone participate in the virtual market. They 100% will get their assets ripped and made public by bad people with clients. As an avatar creator, I really don't think the game is safe enough to have that kind of event. Are we even going to be protected from them?

vocal shard
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does the videoplayer work in vrc atm?

meager solstice
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@wise eagle i mean at the end of the day most people don't know how to do that and will end up buying their stuff

wise eagle
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I got all my stuff stolen yesterday and the guy tried to blackmail me. There's way more people using client than we think. I thought they were gone because of the update but it really look like they are still around

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And yeah, video players works

vocal shard
#

s

meager solstice
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@wise eagle security isnt just a 1 and done thing

vocal shard
#

a

meager solstice
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it is always being worked on, goes for any game

wise eagle
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Why would you have an event if the creator are not protected... It's stupid

meager solstice
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I mean if they want to upload their stuff and sell it for a profit who is to stop them?

wise eagle
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Pardon? Are you talking about the creator rn?

meager solstice
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i mean u act as if vrchat runs the virtual market

wise eagle
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Of course they don't but it will happen in vrchat and that is not a safe platform to show your creation

meager solstice
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@wise eagle name a safe platform

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no company big or small is safe from security threats. All games have been ripped

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only way to keep assets safe would be to not upload them at all and that doesnt sound fun

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and im sure vrc has security in place for asset ripping.

frigid jewel
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hey guys i kind of have a problem right now

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i just merged accounts and i can't access my playlists

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like all the worlds are still favourited but my playlists won't show up anywhere

wise eagle
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Maybe but there's a ton of people using client in that game.. I just don't think it is safe. The number 1 priority of a event should be to protect thee artist. I mean. If we get to show the creation by video. It would be great

vocal shard
#

Hey guys! Virtual Market 4 is starting very soon in VRChat. We'll have a featured row for it. For those that can't wait check out this preview of Parareal Tokyo by the Vket Global Team. This is one of just 36 worlds in Virtual Market 4. -> https://twitter.com/VRChat/status/1255294266269667329?s=20

Virtual Market 4 opens tonight at 7pm PST in VRChat. Join the Vket Global Team on an exclusive sneak peak of "Parareal Tokyo", the corporate booth venue. #Vket4 #Vket https://t.co/iUgNoIgNwl

meager solstice
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im still looking forward to it, alot of time and effort is put into these worlds and booths

wise eagle
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Same, ngl it is a cool event but I have a bad feeling about it

gilded helm
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bruh event starts at 4 am

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in the night

deft iron
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stay up late

gilded helm
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i am going

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to bed

deft iron
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bed is for the weak

gilded helm
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i am moving

deft iron
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to bed

abstract elk
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Use Oculus Mirror, or SteamVR Display Mirror

vocal shard
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is there a world that has avatars with keyboard emote or something so my mute friend can type?

harsh lark
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E

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A

vocal shard
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Sports

harsh lark
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Its in The game

soft ruin
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whats poppin gamers

harsh lark
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of Robbing u for ur money

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cause EA

soft ruin
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sports

abstract nymph
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hmmm I took a picture in vrchat or at least I think I did.. does it like save it or

harsh lark
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Ye

abstract nymph
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like to my computer?

harsh lark
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and to the game

abstract nymph
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Oh ok so how do I uh

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get it?

harsh lark
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Should be A menu button that shows ur screenshot and pictures

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worked for me

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otherwise, its in ur computer

abstract nymph
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ah yeah ok I found the folder

harsh lark
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Ur welcome

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I got to sleep now

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good night!

abstract nymph
#

gn

vocal shard
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Goodnight

uncut trail
#

Woot

vocal shard
#

Woot

deft iron
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Woot

vocal shard
#

O.O

restive yarrow
#

5am yees

deft iron
#

jamie ruined it

vocal shard
#

Yesh

deft iron
#

it was a crime of passion

vocal shard
#

I ruined things >:3

restive yarrow
#

where is worlds

vocal shard
#

In the menu

restive yarrow
#

hmm

frigid jewel
#

i don't see the vket worlds

small oasis
#

Is the virtual market supposed to be open now?

vocal shard
#

Im on quest and I don't see it

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Idk if it is quest compatible

uncut trail
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Nope not quest comp due to worlds over 300mb

vocal shard
#

what a shame

uncut trail
#

Give em time

small oasis
#

On pc, where am I supposed to see it?

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Showed up now

uncut trail
#

RIP streaming movies in VRChat now

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Should put in rules as well not allowed to streaming movies as well

deft iron
#

cracking down on piracy

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rember, streaming movie is a crime, u wouldnt stream a car

uncut trail
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*steal a car

vocal shard
#

That's the joke

frozen sigil
#

Are there some free avatars at vket?

cloud apex
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working on an app that tells you your device's power in desktop mode, because steam doesnt let me see it while plugged in :P
https://gyazo.com/932bb3b2f901504081f5758245dce509
clicking the buttons also flashes the light on the device to see whats what

random dock
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@cloud apex Ouu, that'd be nice c:

soft timber
#

vket thing suddenly pops up out of nowhere and its so weeeird

vocal shard
#

0-0 its the 4th vket, how is it weird and sudden?

meager solstice
#

@soft timber not really out of nowhere

soft timber
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i dont keep up with the news

vocal shard
#

vrcFPaulSip well maybe cause you arent too into it ~ its gucci :3

halcyon oar
#

uhm, does anyone experience serious stutter in vket world?

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only when trying to move around in vr

lucid lava
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vket worlds in general seem to be super laggy even in non-VR, and especially on first spawn in. I get hitches like crazy and I'm on a really good machine as well.

slate verge
#

why does the vrc client use so much ram

north forum
#

I need knights for a crusader crew

fossil root
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anyone who thinks vket is weird doesnt actually play vrchat.

rigid crescent
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It's a lot weaker than last year sadly

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A lot of the bigger exhibitors don't seem to have come back in the same force

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as far as just avatars go i mean

umbral reef
#

I wonder if its related to
Avatar stealing button goes click click click

rigid crescent
#

The world design is better a far as being able to easily navigate them, but i feel like it's just a weaker event altogether.

umbral reef
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Or just that they didnt make enough money from the investment

rigid crescent
#

I mean they have even bigger sponsors than last time

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oh you mean creators

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They might just see it as like....they don't have to, they're all front page booth models now

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and most booth models aren't ripped, they're just shared

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And it feels like there's next to no shader stuff either

next thistle
#

Hello friends. I have a VR headset but no working controllers (Yet! Bluetooth adaptor on it's way). Is there a way to just use VR gaze with KB M movement?

vale wave
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u can use a xbox controller justanother

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if u don't have that. U can also use your mouse and keyboard,

next thistle
#

So would I start in desktop mode or VR mode for that?

vale wave
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vr mode

next thistle
#

When i tried to do that it wouldn't let me turn around or use my keyboard at all. I could use my mouse to select things but had no locomotion whatsoever

vale wave
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what headset are u using ?

next thistle
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It's a windows mixed reality headset, the Dell Visor VR118

vale wave
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ahh dell visor , i have it also

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did u installed the wmr thing on steam ?

next thistle
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mmhmm

vale wave
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do u have a ps4 / xbox controller?

next thistle
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I do, i could hook that up for sure

vale wave
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most turning around requires a mouse , but i believe that's only possible when u open the menu ,

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but just to be sure try it out with a controller firsrt

next thistle
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"requires ur our?"

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Im' sorry, not trying to be rude, but i'm not sure what you meant

vale wave
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fixed it , stoopid typo

next thistle
#

Controller works! thanks for the advice!

vale wave
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Np

next thistle
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see you guys in full body on friday, but at least for now this is functional 😄

vale wave
#

^^

uncut trail
#

Amaaazing work on vket 4 very impress doing one waaay

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so people dont miss out

ornate pendant
#

are chairs gone? like on models

uncut trail
#

no

ornate pendant
#

it removes them in unity

arctic flax
#

Hey real quick question y'all. My girlfriend and I are looking to watch Netflix videos together in a VRChat world, since we've seen it be done before. Is it still possible to do this?

ornate pendant
#

hum ill test it

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no

arctic flax
#

Dang, mega lame. Yeah I've been looking around for a way for us to watch Beastars together

ornate pendant
#

kast is ok free

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too

arctic flax
#

Yeah, but being long distance and all we kinda want to at least feel like we're next to each other watching a show. such is life. Just streaming through Discord then

vocal shard
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@arctic flax do you both have vr headsets? bigscreen might be worth a look

arctic flax
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Yeah! We have that in mind, her Index comes in this week 👌 😅

vale wave
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dont know i saw about it

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but never looked into it

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me 2

uncut trail
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im checkin world end but different names = different models but want more cool techs n stuff 😦

rigid crescent
#

i wonder where my copypasta from last year is

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Virtual Market is a trade and exhibition convention held in Virtual Reality where attendees can freely browse, try on and purchase 3D virtual avatars or apparel. Virtual Market was created in the hopes of enriching and pushing the boundaries of Virtual Reality.

Well there's one

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and yeah, this year comparatively is a lot less cool as far as non-model stuff

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like shaders and just neat assets

uncut trail
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cube one is kinda meh

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wont bother with looking at em

finite steppe
#

Why does my character randomly get flung into space for no reason? This has happened to me twice now and i don't know why.

lean zephyr
#

hi im new :/

finite steppe
#

Like, I'll just be off doing my thing and all of a sudden I'm launched into the sky and my character model starts spazzing out across the screen. I have to ALT + F4 when it happens because the menu doesn't follow the player for some reason.

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I was using completely different avatars both times it happened.

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I get the feeling that it's some kind of hack someone is using that does that.

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Can't tell who it could possibly be tho, as i never pay attention to the social menu.

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But something i did notice is both times it happened is that there was always someone with no trust rating in the lobby. Which just adds to my theory of someone using hacks.

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But seriously tho, what kind of person uses hacks in a social hub game!? It just doesn't make sense, there is literally no point in it.

#

Anyways, enough ranting... Just a bit confused.

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Also, hi. I'm new.

charred nimbus
#

Hi I’m new too

vale wave
#

Hello new too

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Sounds like a pokemon

rigid moss
#

yo

vale wave
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daddy

rigid moss
#

yh

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wat/

#

?

vocal shard
#

Steel n gold fixed yet?

slim meteor
#

i made a chao from sonic adventure 2, gave it HUGE knockers

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like HUGE bazongos

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badoinkas

cosmic delta
#

there is a virtual market 4 worlds category in vr chat. What is it about?

scarlet musk
rigid moss
#

yo

vocal shard
#

yo

lethal hare
#

Yeah, vket 4 maps chug hard

warped sierra
#

Is there anyway to troubleshoot Audio crashes? It only happens when I play VRC, every other game performs fine.

A few times a night my audio will just toally cutout and I have to restart the oculus service, sometimes reseating the display port and USB.

Are there logs for audio crashes on VRC/Oculus?

wide falcon
#

Guys how do i enable vrchat announcements in my discord server?

ruby needle
#

Simply follow the announcement channel, go in there and you should see a option for that

broken plover
faint skiff
#

VRChat: "Worlds should be under 200MB at most". Also VRChat: "lol, here's a showcase of 35 worlds, averaging around 300MB in size and totalling 9.3GB"

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Seriously...

vocal shard
#

I went to bed last night cause it took to long to load one vrket world

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ummm

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I speak spanish, just not good with sentences

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No, lo siento.

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oh he's gone

ruby burrow
#

File size can be challenging in worlds. My own safari world is currently around 360mb. It's a constant battle trying to find ways to keep it smaller without sacrificing stuff.

west yoke
#

Textures make up most of that size (usually)

faint skiff
#

The annoying thing is a lot of that seems to be duplicated over each world, which wouldn't be so bad if everything wasn't one monolithic package (which also means if they update any of them, you'll have to download the whole thing again).

ruby burrow
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Yeah. I'm admittedly very much an amateur, but been doing what I can. Recently discovered crunch compression, and was able to take the world back from the brink of 500mb and down to 360mb.

west yoke
#

Yeah you can compress textures for worlds pretty far without noticeable changes to quality (especially in VR)

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The same can be said about avatars as well tbh

ruby burrow
#

People keep occasionally telling me to bake the lighting in the world, but the performance cost of one directional light vs the file size cost of +2km of light baking, doesn't seem worth it.

faint skiff
#

@ruby burrow Make sure you're heavily crunching lightmaps too, you can often go to Low quality, 30% on those with no obvious issues.

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My world is 3x512M landscapes and a bunch of other stuff and the lightmaps come to <30MB.

ruby burrow
#

I've not actually baked anything. Do I still have any lightmaps in that case?

faint skiff
#

Probably not.

#

Realtime lights murder performance though unfortunately.

ruby burrow
#

Mine is a single 2.2km terrain. Should have probably tiled it or something, but didn't know how when I started this.

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I've done what I can to remove shadow casting from trivial objects or those that wouldn't ever see the sun anyway.

#

I've always wondered what VR-Chat's practical limits are in terms of massive open landscapes.

faint skiff
#

Given how terrain works and GPU instancing, terrain size isn't really an issue except for filesize.

ruby burrow
#

Hmm.

faint skiff
#

If you open the Unity log, you can see specifically what is taking up so much space in your build too (sort of, the info is a bit off but still somewhat useful).

ruby burrow
#

I've joked to a friend or two that the sequel to my safari world will be the Sahara desert, at true scale. The joke being that it'd just be near infinitely tiled sand dunes.

#

Is that the "Full Log (Developer mode)" inside the console tab? Or something else?

#

Wait... that's only a check box. Not something that opens.

red vector
#

Making worlds in VRChat looks way too complex for my small brain...the most ive ever done was place units and add triggers in something like StarCraft or Age of Empires editors...

verbal meteor
#

It's good fun, it's just about taking small steps to learn how to do the small things then work upwards. I'm hoping to move into modelling them straight up soon, rather than using assets etc once I really get into the UDON toolset.

ruby burrow
#

Yeah, it really depends on what you're trying to make. Worlds can be incredibly simple, easier than even basic avatars, or incredibly complex, if the scope is ambitious or something more involved.

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Starting out, making a world for VR-Chat can be as simple as collecting a few 3D assets, and placing them in a unity scene. Check they have appropriate collision, and add the world_descriptor where you want the spawn to be. Boom. Functional world.

verbal meteor
#

mhmm and the prefabs in the SDK are a good learning point to get an idea of how things can/should work as a guideline.

honest path
#

:)

rigid moss
#

yo

fast valve
#

Hey where are the events n shit

rigid moss
#

were it ses @spark dewts

#

@spark dewts

#

tf

vocal shard
#

stop pinging that poor dude

rigid moss
#

it was an axident

#

i want to write events

#

but to ping it

vocal shard
#

use @ to ping people and # for a channel

warped sierra
vale wave
#

@spark dewts

#

Weird

vocal shard
rigid moss
#

lol

dawn willow
#

Can someone help me, like, this is a genuine problem of mine

#

What’s the game called that mully josh Eddie and that play

vocal shard
#

?

#

Who the hell even watches that show?