#vrchat-general-2

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wet sluice
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@sullen olive 150MB should download in 75 seconds at 2MB/s. You mistook Mb with MB.

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@odd blaze I get around 240Mb/s, so I also get bottlenecked by my CPU

vocal shard
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hey, someone turned my avatar into a crasher and i keep crashing when i load in, how do i fix this

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can i clear the cache or something

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no

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i use through steam

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Awwe ok, you can reset your avatar on the website if you had one.
You can try spamming Ctrl+\ while loading in. That's the hotkey to reset your avatar

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ok ok

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is there no other way to fix this except ctrl+/

cursive ferry
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guys

vocal shard
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uh, i have a swedish keyboard, and to turn on / in anyway requires me to hold shift and then press 7, do i have to switch to english keyboard layout?

cursive ferry
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what the FUCK is a dynamic bone

vocal shard
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'

rigid crescent
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ggrks

vocal shard
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Oh, try Ctrl+~
@vocal shard
Different layouts seem to have worked with different combinations

vocal shard
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to use ~ i have to hold ctrl and alt at the same time

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imma try

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didnt work

muted meadow
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I'm not spamming you ideocracy enabled bot.

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reeeeeeeeeeeeee

vocal shard
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is no one going to help me

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lol

rigid crescent
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its been 3 minutes, calm down

muted meadow
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imagine expecting support from devs that ban people for using clients that add non-malicious features that should be a part of the base game anyway

rigid crescent
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It's not the dev's job to help you, for one

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and two, they detect "are you using a client: Yes or no?" not "ok so is this the goodboy client"

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just don't use it, it isn't hard lol its no one's fault but the user if they use a modded client

vocal shard
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ok, i have a question, ive been playing vrchat with my steam account, and i have several avatars saved, will i lose them if i make a vrchat account ?

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You can link your steam and vrchat account

deft girder
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@vocal shard it should work with just Ctrl + § on a swedish layout

rigid crescent
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Does merging keep favs? I forgot

vocal shard
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ok lemme try

rigid crescent
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oh you mean uploaded ones? those should stay

vocal shard
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didnt work

deft girder
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Works for me 🤷

vocal shard
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do i have to spam it or do i have to press it as soon as i load in

ivory folio
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Yeah it won't work with that kind of avatar even if the key does work. You'll probably have to contact support

vocal shard
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brug

muted meadow
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🤷‍♂️ people wouldn't use a client if things would actually get fixed in the game

rigid crescent
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Yes they would

wet sluice
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They definitely would lol

rigid crescent
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It's still their fault for using them, nothing else matters.

vocal shard
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how is my personal email and username already taken as a vrchat account?

muted meadow
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90% of peopel i know that use clients use it for avatarfav and optimization tools...

rigid crescent
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Avatar favorites being limited aren't a bug

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Nor are DB not being interactable. It has nothing to do with just "fixing" the game

muted meadow
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eh

rigid crescent
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Even if the bug-related things were fixed, people would still use clients.

covert blade
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^

rigid crescent
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it has nothing to do with bugs, that's just an excuse people use

muted meadow
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still think it's asinine

rigid crescent
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Just like knowingly using a client that can get you banned, yeah

muted meadow
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it's not like you're cheating at csgo

covert blade
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There's always people going to use mods since there's always people unhappy with the developers decisions

vocal shard
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Nerd

covert blade
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It's been like that in basically every game imaginable

rigid crescent
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It still doesn't matter. It's bannable, they know it's bannable. Just don't do it and you most likely won't get banned

muted meadow
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imagine getting banned from skyrim

wet sluice
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Imagine thinking single player and multiplayer are the same thing

muted meadow
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imagine not getting the point

rigid crescent
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I mean Sasha's statement isn't any less correct because you used a singleplayer game as an exampe

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It's "people unhappy with the developer's decisions" lol

covert blade
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Yup

ivory folio
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To be fair, using a client also has a very low chance of getting banned since there is no mod detection

rigid crescent
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So it seems like you're the one missing the point. It's bannable. They know it's bannable and still use it. End of story

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Every so often a chunk of people get banned for it at once

covert blade
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If the mod spams the API that can be a reason

rigid crescent
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but yes, unless you're actively misusing it in public, you likely won't get banned unless they do a quick wave

vocal shard
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how do i get the account link token

rigid crescent
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It's got a minute limit anyway doesn't it?

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Oh right you have to be able to get into the game to get the link token lol

vocal shard
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i am in

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i logged into my account from like 2017 or some shit

covert blade
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Apparently one of the mods that people like to use had a bug and it spammed the server with requests

vocal shard
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how do i get it

covert blade
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Which is how the most recent ban wave happened

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It's fun because from what I was told people got all paranoid

rigid crescent
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Yeah lol

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Had a bunch of friends turn theirs off and still have them off

covert blade
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Meanwhile I'm just sitting here playing the game normally and laughing

rigid crescent
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Bans were anywhere from 3 days to a month lol

muted meadow
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like 3/4 my friends list is banned for 30 days for using avatarfav xD

twin fractal
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the server for the past couple of days has just been kids crying because they or someone they know got banned for using clients lol

rigid crescent
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Well, now they know better

vocal shard
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what happens if i click the "clear downloaded content cache" will that fix it?

muted meadow
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yes they know better for exceeding an arbitrary limit on avatar favorites

rigid crescent
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It won't fix it

vocal shard
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fuckl

rigid crescent
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They know better for using a modded client.

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The rules are pretty clear. Don't do it. Period. It doesn't matter if it's "good" or not.

covert blade
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^

vocal shard
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i logged into the vrchat account, do you need to be logged into the steam account?

rigid crescent
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Yes

vocal shard
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why is this so scuffed

rigid crescent
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Just email support

vocal shard
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how

muted meadow
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still seems like a dumb rule if you're not affecting any other player

rigid crescent
vocal shard
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well what should i say then?

rigid crescent
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what you said here

vocal shard
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do i link my steam?

covert blade
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It's really not a dumb rule at all

muted meadow
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explain then

covert blade
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It makes moderation so much easier because you don't have to make up weird rules for when a mod counts as malicious or not

rigid crescent
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Detecting a "good" and "bad" modded client for one is a lot harder than just "oh modded client"

covert blade
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Instead, any mod = ban
Done

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Besides, they may have other reasons why they don't want people to temper with the functionality of the game

muted meadow
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or maybe it's just ban by malicious behavior

rigid crescent
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How do you think that would be done?

muted meadow
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reporting players

rigid crescent
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That's inefficient

covert blade
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I suppose the same way it is done right now when you act bad in front of other players

vestal pier
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thats a seperate issue entirely though

rigid crescent
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It's easier to blanket ban anyone using a modded client than to hope someone is able to catch people on video every time they're misusing it

vestal pier
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clients are independent from behaviour

muted meadow
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then why do they even have the button for it then

rigid crescent
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It's supplementary. It isn't a 100% surefire thing,

vocal shard
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whats "add cc" in the support ticket?

rigid crescent
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and how do you report me if I've already kicked you from the room because you looked at me funny?

muted meadow
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the weebsite

rigid crescent
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How do you know it was me?

muted meadow
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instance history

rigid crescent
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...

covert blade
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And if there were more than two players in that instance?

rigid crescent
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So out of the 20 people in an instance, you'll know exactly who did it AND have proof?

covert blade
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Oh yeah, have fun finding the one guy that kicked you in a room of 30 players

muted meadow
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probably the dude that had it out for you

covert blade
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probably

muted meadow
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or the only one still online

rigid crescent
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Your argument is already falling apart, just give it up already

vocal shard
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heyo

covert blade
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But it's not certain, and therefore invalid for reports

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Actually, imma let mic handle that one cirComfy

wet sluice
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Clients are detectable and predictable. And all the "bad" clients would masquerade as "good" if they had to differentiate them.

rigid crescent
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If I'm in a room with 20 people, you say something I don't like, and I force kick you, how do you prove it's me?

covert blade
rigid crescent
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and now we'll throw in "odd" characters in the username to the mix

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Or maybe you were playing with nameplates off, or maybe you didn't even see my name to begin with?

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Maybe I was invisible?

muted meadow
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I mean people can do that same shit without a moddified client anyways

rigid crescent
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My point is that your method is extremely flawed dude

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You can't even expain to me how youd report me via the website if I force kicked you

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So how will anyone else manage to report people using bad clients?

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Catching bad ones is jsut as hard as catching good ones, which is why it's better to just disallow them altogether

twin fractal
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clients need to be bannable because they can override safety settings and abuse necessary functions

small wing
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Clients are bannable. Its in the TOS.

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Its even in the loading screens. Says it right there.

muted meadow
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my point is that most people with clients are just trying to impove their player experience. I understand your points but I'm also in a state of ehh about it all because i've never seen it abused in the specific ways you mention. not that it doesn't happen... but it seems like it'll happen any bannable or not

rigid crescent
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Which is why making clients bannable overall is the best solution right now.

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People force kick ALL the time though, that's nothing new lol

muted meadow
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why is that even possible to do from client side

vestal pier
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most people with illicit substances are just trying to prove their experience, but they should be willing to face the consequences

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rules are rules are rules, its just that simple

twin fractal
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I've gotten in shit for that too lol

rigid crescent
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You know what you're getting in to when you use a modded client. It's black and white man

muted meadow
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yeah but rules also can be changed

rigid crescent
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I have plenty of friends that use them, and they all do so knowing they can be banned on the spot for it.

small wing
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. (I.E a ban) 😉

rigid crescent
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Why should this rule change? I already explained why it's better for it to exist right now

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Your solution to "Bad clients" is to report people using them. You can't even explain to me how you'd report me if I force kicked you from a room.

twin fractal
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so how would we change this one? allow clients and ban players based on action? have a client whitelist?

rigid crescent
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a whitelist wouldnt work lol

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and banning based on actions we've already established is near impossible at the moment

small wing
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Almost everything a modded client does to "enhance the experience" most likely can be done with custom avatars anyways. Seeing through walls? Yeah thats just a camera component. Flying? Colliders.

indigo fern
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Uh

small wing
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Using a modded client is just a lazy and risky way to enjoy the game if you ask me.

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I don't condone it.

rancid flame
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most people who ive seen use the excuse of the extra features really just want the power to crash people

muted meadow
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The features most people want are just optimization features, search enhancers, avatarfav, and join notifications.

indigo fern
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There's plenty of random shiet out there, things like global dynabones or qol things like turning chairs off or force low mirror if you need it

rigid crescent
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Join notifications only need output log and api parsing, no modded client needed

indigo fern
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Or that dumb one that lets you jump in worlds that don't have jumping on lmao

twin fractal
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imagine risking a ban to be able to jump lol

rigid crescent
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It doesn't matter what/why they want them dude, you can't differentiate a "good" or "bad" client. THe easiest way to catch people using bad ones is to catch people using ANY client because not using them is literally a rule

small wing
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Photon is cursed lol.

twin fractal
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just get full body and jump around 4head

indigo fern
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Broton 🤜 🤛

small wing
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xD

rigid crescent
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If you can tell me how you'd personally catch and report me for force kicking you from a room, then we might be on to something but until then you dont really have much footing here.

wet sluice
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Global dyn bones is possible without clients. People are just lazy

muted meadow
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I understand you point, but I will have to agree to disagree that the only solution is just ban everyone

rigid crescent
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If you disagree, then what's your solution?

small wing
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Sniffing packets maybe?

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Output logs

muted meadow
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server level logs should be able to catch people force banning others

rigid crescent
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Output log shouldn't detect a kick afaik

small wing
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Something needs to be there.

rigid crescent
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a forced kick at least

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because they're not attached to a user afaik

small wing
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If its run through an API there is always going to be traces.

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Code doesn't just "exist"

rigid crescent
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it auto-approves a votekick doesnt it?

ivory folio
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Most force kicks are done with multiple accounts, those can't really be traced

small wing
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Its set instructions with recorded outcomes.

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Yeah but at what point does the person using a client send the packets to each user to mass kick?

muted meadow
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I imagine the force kick is exploiting something to do with votekicks. If a votekick is initialized and user is then kicked in a timespan that's humanily impossible then the logs should be able to flag that

ivory folio
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You don't even need to be in game to force kick, it literally can't be traced

muted meadow
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everything can be traced

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things don't just happen with magic

rigid crescent
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OK, so what's it traced to?

muted meadow
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the ip/mac of the source of the command

rigid crescent
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ok, so it's spoofed

ivory folio
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Use proxies?

small wing
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What VRChat needs is a checks and balances system.

rigid crescent
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now what

sweet nebula
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You dont need to be in game to kick

Im just lurking this conversation at the moment, but if this is true, its massively silly

faint skiff
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API doesn't work without a key, that key is your login token.

rigid crescent
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You mean my millionth alt's login token ye?

muted meadow
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i mean you're just poking wholes in the default client security now

ivory folio
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It is true, you can spoof your location in the API and force kick someone from anywhere

faint skiff
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Wouldn't be hard to lump accounts by IP. Most people don't bother with VPNs.

muted meadow
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this isn't even modded client territory anymore

rigid crescent
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Yes, and those holes are why modded clients are banned soooo

muted meadow
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.... so fix the holes

rigid crescent
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"just fix it" doesnt really work lol

faint skiff
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You don't even need a modded client, you can literally just go into the API and do it in your browser, it's very silly. I could create a session, which says it was created by Mic, to some random person's private world.

rigid crescent
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Regardless, modded clients are banned and for good reason.

muted meadow
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seems like the base client should be banned at this point

rigid crescent
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and like I said, til you can tell me how you'd somehow trace a force kick back to me, you dont have much footing

small wing
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Wait a minute, why are we trying to prove anything to this guy?

muted meadow
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I gave many examples of how. The shit code of the game seems to omit all that though

small wing
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lol

rigid crescent
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Oh true, they clearly don't understand

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Just go and play with what's left of your friends list dude, they'll be unbanned in a few days

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I'm not judging anyone for using them.

small wing
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I thought we were all having a constructive talk here. Not trying to berate and bash someone with opinion. Yeah fuck that.

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Sorry to anyone who though I was picking sides here, damn.

rigid crescent
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I have friends that use them. I don't care that they do it, people just need to realize it's bannable.

ivory folio
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This server is pretty good at bashing people with the wrong opinion

small wing
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True

rigid crescent
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I'm not bashing him for his opinion, I'm telling him that what he wants isn't as simple as he thinks it is

small wing
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Sucks when I always think its constructive.

rigid crescent
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I'm moreso trying to mak ethem realize that but they just come up with more excuses

small wing
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You said it, not me.

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I never pointed at "who"

rigid crescent
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Well I don't feel bashed, so I assumed it was directed at me lol

muted meadow
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I know it's not simple, but when you get millions of dollars in develop money you'd think some of that would goto security services

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not blanket policies

rigid crescent
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lol the one time they're overly transparent it's on the one thing the armchair devs will use against them smh

vestal pier
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i cant believe this conversation is still happening :-)

indigo fern
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😉

small wing
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Eh, I'm gonna go look at anime titty and work on unity crap. Later 🤙

rigid crescent
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Ye, some people just won't learn, so I guess it's a waste of time. It is bannable and will remain bannable for good reason

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pretty much done here lol

muted meadow
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"armchair dev"

small wing
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Life is too short to argue with some random person on the internet lulz

tame island
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Out of curiosity from an earlier point brought up, why is there an avatar fav limit?

indigo fern
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no, thats the most fun part

small wing
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@vestal pier Send me anime

rigid crescent
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Iunno

vestal pier
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I dont watch any anime Red

small wing
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send me pictures of ur feet

vestal pier
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Uh ok sec

rigid crescent
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he doesnt have feet

small wing
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bet

muted meadow
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So I'm not allowed to criticize if I'm not personally involved in development of the code. cool

indigo fern
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he does tho, its under the hat in his pfp

small wing
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ive seen his feet

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his feet are hot

rigid crescent
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You are allowed to criticize, you just need to make better points that aren't "ok but i dont like it"

vestal pier
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@tame island Best guess is so they can monetize favourite amounts in the future? i think theres an actual reason cant remember

rigid crescent
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That'd be a good one

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I want monetized inventory system~

tame island
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Ok! Thank u asis!

rigid crescent
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but if we have hte monetization convo, it'll attract another unholy being

indigo fern
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i doubt they planned on monetizing it from the beginning, it started at 3 and they increased it because one guy felt like it

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but now its probably in the back of their minds

rigid crescent
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They increased it because the servers were dying aroudn christmas, everyone was on break, and it's all they could think to do to "appease" people

indigo fern
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or maybe its in the mind of the virtual economy manager that theyre looking for

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wink wonk, apply now

rigid crescent
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It was a pathetic attempt at panem et circus

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because i forgot the latin word for circus

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"H-Haha, guys I know some of you can't connect (and secretly I know you won't be able to for at least a month or longer due to our network IK rollback fuckup), but here! More favorite slots! Oh....Wait they don't work?"

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I forgot that was when favorite slots almost never saved lol

faint skiff
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@tame island To encourage exploration of worlds.

indigo fern
rigid crescent
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That was the reasoning for 3 wasn't it?

muted meadow
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it kinda does the opposite of encouraging me to explore worlds if I know i'ma have to drop one of my favorite avatars if I find another i like

rigid crescent
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Oh hey it's the same guy who said "favorite slots should work now!" and they didn't stabilize for a week. What's his job anyway?

indigo fern
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God King Ron wanted to save more chairs 🙏

faint skiff
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Changing avatars constantly is annoying TBH, not sure why people feel the need to just cycle through them constantly.

muted meadow
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memes

rigid crescent
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Mostly just shitty meme avatars

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See?

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Most people I know just have their OC model or main model with outfit variants and that's it, then the occasional meme but eh

muted meadow
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I got like 2 avatars I use regularly and then 14 memes

wet sluice
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I'm so shook

vocal shard
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I haven't used up my avatar slots yet

faint skiff
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I know a load of people with the modded clients and their literally constant fucking cycling through of avatars is what makes me hate it even more. It's so annoying. (especially if you play with tags off)

muted meadow
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i mean people could also upload an unlimited amount...

wet sluice
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I feel bad for people with low RAM when a client user comes in

faint skiff
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That requires some level of effort, which at least puts some barrier between people and the incessant need to change avatars.

rough pulsar
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I think the only thing more annoying than people who change avatars every 30 seconds are people who talk to you while violently swinging the movement thumbstick around.

muted meadow
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ok buddy. some people are adhd

indigo fern
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i mean, they can already cycle through 16 normally

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thats already a lot

faint skiff
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Then get medication and stop subjecting everyone else to your mental issues

rough pulsar
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Twiddle something else then

muted meadow
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ok i'll just jump in place instead then

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I'm sorry that my brain's thirst for stimulation annoys you

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i'll make sure to keep that in mind the next time i'm restless

faint skiff
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Good way to get blocked. Reminds me of the people that post on Reddit saying people ignore them, when in reality they act like hyperactive screeching 5 year olds.

muted meadow
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imagine blocking someone for a minor annoyance

wet sluice
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Jk, my head hurts when people do that

rigid crescent
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lol just don't be annoying 4hed

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Get a fidget spinner or something

rough pulsar
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When I'm trying to talk to you (or listen to you) it's a major annoyance.

rigid crescent
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or a fidget box, those work

muted meadow
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and how am i supposed to use a fidget device with a controller strapped to my hand?

rough pulsar
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Glue it to your controller, duh

indigo fern
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give your avatar one pog

muted meadow
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^ bigbrainplays

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I can understand disagreement with my opinion on the clients and such... but outright banning people because of a mental disorder that's incredibly common and the medicine for which is incredibly destructive and addictive is a dick move. politely asking them to stop would be a much better solution

rigid crescent
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No one is banning anyone because of a mental disorder

rough pulsar
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What where did you even get that idea

muted meadow
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not banning. meant blocking

rigid crescent
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If you're being enough of an annoying to bother me, I'm going to hide, mute, or possibly block you. There's no reason not to

muted meadow
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or you know... talk to someone and ask them to stop

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like a human being

indigo fern
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well, blocking is not just for actual problems, some times its there for preference

rigid crescent
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Why would I ask them to stop? They can keep doing it all they want, I just won't see it.

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It's not like I'm blocking people I know lol

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It's likely a total stranger across the room being annoying

indigo fern
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yea, blocking is probably better than asking them to stop, they do them

rigid crescent
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It's like when I mute people playing music

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Why would I ask you to stop when everyone else is enjoying the music?

muted meadow
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muting people is different then blocking them

indigo fern
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well, its when they have only an audio annoyance and not a visual one

muted meadow
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blocking them is like completely erasing them from existence

rancid flame
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If they start getting in my face or just intruding on convos ill block them

twin fractal
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🤷

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I've blocked a total of 3 people

rancid flame
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unless they are a visitor it wont bring them to nuisance

rigid crescent
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I've got a ton of people blocked lol

indigo fern
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yea, its not really a big deal

rigid crescent
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can you link that ap ithing for blocked people?

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o nvm

rancid flame
indigo fern
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do me a favor, check the people who blocked you too

muted meadow
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I feel like blocking people for fidgeting is extreme

rigid crescent
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kk

vestal pier
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i blocked mic

twin fractal
rancid flame
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ive only blocked 5 or so people

rigid crescent
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N8 blocked me lol

indigo fern
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😂

rigid crescent
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Out of all of those, I only know why 4 blocked me

indigo fern
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oh my finger mustve slipped on the friend button

rigid crescent
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I've never met the other ones, not that I'm aware of lol

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I lied actually

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Actually no, 4 is right tanabae

twin fractal
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I don't know why any of mine blocked me

rigid crescent
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One of them blocked me randomly when i wasnt interacting with them, I saw them do it and i was like "oh ok" lol

rancid flame
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two people have blocked me. no idea why but meh

indigo fern
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yea, i know literally none of the people who blocked me

rigid crescent
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same with my mutes. i know cubed blocked me because i was snoring one day

indigo fern
#

also, i swear they purged these like sometime last year
i couldve sworn i remember more

rigid crescent
#

Fantasys blocked me because I told her my favorite streamer was her sister

rancid flame
#

lmao

rigid crescent
#

and the rest are again more people ive never met. probably snoring in the lobby tbh

vocal shard
#

2

muted meadow
#

I've blocked 18 people. All of which were probably crashers or racist

rigid crescent
indigo fern
#

why would crashers block you? 😱
are you the real threat

wet sluice
#

What the... Apparently I've unmuted you mic. And ProjektMelody... Idk when I did that

indigo fern
#

oh wait, cant read

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disregard that

ivory folio
#

I was recently bot blocked by almost 2000 accounts, somehow didn't affect my trust rank

rigid crescent
#

oh you did mute me Aria

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I saw that in my parser, I was like "wut" lol

#

that's because you're too powerful

desert stratus
#

god

rigid crescent
#

The amount of bot blocks it takes to lower your trust rank is your OFFICIAL VRChat Power Level

muted meadow
#

and it looks like i've got no block on me

desert stratus
#

every time the vrc server becoems active cuz of an update or vrc being down or banwaves i get reminded that vrc is fun

rigid crescent
#

I log in every day and hang with my bois, so i always have fun~

desert stratus
#

but i dont want to play the fucking game lol

#

not rn im making an avatar from scratch for the first time

wet sluice
#

I'm my list, I've only got an unmuted here. Same for ProjektMelody. Idek

desert stratus
#

well technically the second time but the first time does not count

rigid crescent
#

Does anyone know why blocks are only showing people blocked in 2019 and 2020

desert stratus
#

since it was intentionally a low poly meme

rigid crescent
#

It feels like these are getting reset...

rancid flame
#

i only usually play if i have a friend online.

desert stratus
#

dunno

vocal shard
#

I thought blocks do get reset eventually

rigid crescent
#

i used to have a TON more people blocked

indigo fern
#

yea, i thought that too mic

vocal shard
desert stratus
#

how do you check block lists again? and with what website?

rigid crescent
#

yeah

twin fractal
#

this chat just reminded me of the one guy who joined a world blocked everyone and then got vote kicked and wondered why people were so mean to him

wet sluice
rigid crescent
#

lol some people are dumb af

desert stratus
#

thenks

wet sluice
#

Just ctrl-f "block"

desert stratus
#

i also have rnadom ass unmutes

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maybe they're a part of the safety system??

ivory folio
#

When you get a friend request, you get unmuted by the person too

wet sluice
#

Unmutes have to got to be some weird glitch. I only noticed that lately

rigid crescent
#

unblocks are glitched as well sometimes

desert stratus
#

interesante, none of the people ive hidden or blocked or muted show up

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i dont block many people in general but there should be like 3 or 4

muted meadow
#

everyone on my friends list says they're muted when they're not if I search for them when they're offline

rigid crescent
#

I actually autoblock anyone with an intro audio on their avatar

desert stratus
#

im such a golden child ive only ever been hidden, blocked, or muted by no more than 11 people

rigid crescent
#

like i immediately respawn to find them and block them

desert stratus
#

then again 2017-18 stuff is likely gone now but still

wet sluice
#

That link is just people's actions against you

desert stratus
#

ah

wet sluice
#

Change to playermoderations for your own

rigid crescent
#

my capture card won't work real kms hours

indigo fern
#

Kiss my sister hours

wet sluice
#

😳

slate verge
tame island
#

@faint skiff sorry l8 response but ty 2! That also makes sense

hollow timber
bright widget
#

so I was dancing in vrchat and someone looked at me press few buttons and changed my avatar into a broken one which crash my game instantly, what should I do

inner cape
#

change yer avatar to a default one through the website

bright widget
#

oh my god I can really do that?

inner cape
#

no i lied you cant 🙂

bright widget
#

thanks so much it's very appreciated

#

I thought my account was done

inner cape
#

spread the word

bright widget
#

I will

eternal pewter
#

Whats up gamers

vocal shard
#

idk where to post this but when i try to join a world it stays in 0% and wont go up no matter how much i wait, it was working before, then VRChat crashed and now it wont

wet sluice
#

!cleancache

floral flaxBOT
#

You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them

narrow quail
#

How does one go about finding out if a specific avatar exist somewhere?

rigid crescent
#

hope you find it

#

tbh. there's no avatar search

sterile ingot
#

I'm still looking for Gandalf.

covert blade
snow wadi
#

I know gandalf exists as an avatar but I think it was a private one.

#

Henlo Sasha

covert blade
#

QHALA

fading flower
#

goodmornin

#

i got the day off so you can bet your bottom dollar that i will sleep in

vocal shard
#

Good night

fading flower
#

this man be vrcZZZZ

mighty holly
#

Hy guys

late rock
#

oi m8

#

hows ja day

vocal shard
#

i have a question, can you do full body with the rift s?

ruby needle
#

officially no, but with third party tools yes

#

From kinect, over psmove to vive tracker (with lighthouses you will have to buy extra) you can use them all in the right setup cirComfy

vocal shard
#

okay 🙂

scenic fern
#

Well then...

#

Someone in a world just made everyone in it crash...

#

Didn't know that was possible. lol

ruby needle
#

You propably didnt use the right unity version

#

You currently need unity 2017.4.28f1

vocal shard
#

^^^

agile parcel
#

i got an id of an avatar world i want to go to how do i enter it?

pseudo basalt
#

click on a world on the website and replace the id in the url

agile parcel
#

if an avatar has an special voice command/emote how do i activate it?

inner cape
#

Shift + F1 to F8 on while on desktop

agile parcel
#

ok thank you

pale timber
#

why'd you help an avatar troll

devout berry
#

Why do you like to criticize everyone so much?!

vocal shard
#

why do you like to question everything so much ?!

devout berry
#

BECAUSE!

pale timber
#

because what

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exactly you pseudo intellectual stop putting false information

#

it's the same thing as you criticizing everyone for putting out an opinion you believe is right even if proven wrong

vocal shard
#

no angery rin

covert blade
devout berry
#

No comment. If I would comment it, I would too much into it and that would be a start of an argument.

vocal shard
#

that mean you lost, sorry zoomer

devout berry
#

Yeah? Zoomer? Ya should know I am 20 and in april, I will be 21, so I am normal adult. Any more arguments?

vocal shard
#

Ok zoomer

indigo fern
#

we dont grant you the rank of 90s kid

devout berry
#

I just don't think that this naming is normal. I don't see people to refer themselves by generations, at least in Czech republic, so I see it as weird to say someone is zoomer. I don't know which generation it is.

zinc nexus
#

Hello everybody

rigid crescent
#

The rank of 90s kid is powerful

gloomy remnant
#

just got hit by zephoria vrcLike

devout berry
#

Ouch!

gloomy remnant
#

love when you get forced into an avatar and crash on startup because of it

wraith lichen
#

Feelsbad

devout berry
#

Yep. That is why I am usually only in private instances.

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@gloomy remnant What world was that in? It would be interesting to find out, which worlds should we beware in public instances. For now, people warned only about room of the rain.

gloomy remnant
#

room of the rain

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seems thats the main target

#

there was also one time he got rid of the whole world

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so we were constantly falling

warped creek
#

One of my friends got crashed in Shiba Paradise, so that guy is not strictly just targeting Room of the Rain.

devout berry
#

It is even on the reddit - do not enter room of the rain in public instances.

warped creek
#

Got rid of the whole world? This happened to me multiple times in Room of Summer Solitude, but I first encountered it 1st a long time ago.

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Last time when it happened I was in a flying avatar, so it didn't affect me and I could see who did that.

gloomy remnant
#

i blocked him when i saw him but he has so many alts

warped creek
#

Apparently near 200

umbral reef
#

If only they just ripped the part out that could change your avatar 🙂
Even if it broke parts of the game

#

By now im pretty sure no one would mind a hot fix for this bullshit

sterile ingot
#

I really hope VRC ban some of these trolls. And makes it stick.

devout berry
#

Safety tip - do not block hackers, because their mods will tell them and they are nastier on people blocking them I heard.

gloomy remnant
#

so we just have to wait until devs do something ?

devout berry
#

Looks like it.

gloomy remnant
#

its been a while since hes started

rough pulsar
rigid crescent
#

He went through the trouble of documenting it for us lol

devout berry
#

Want see how you report 200 alts at the same time.

umbral reef
#

@gloomy remnant For this to stop? Well yes, they are using an exploit that allows them to do it.

#

Large swats of users know how it works/how to do it by now
Its fairly well documented how they do it by now

devout berry
#

And even more interesting will be, if they swat them all.

umbral reef
#

But its been a thing for years, just never got abused this bad.

rigid crescent
#

Likely won't.

warped creek
#

Well... it's difficult to get rid of someone permanently from just creating new accounts.

devout berry
#

Want a realistic Malding reason? The hackers are!

rigid crescent
#

Social vetting gets you into a lot better instances lol

quiet axle
#

Haii

hot sable
#

Hey can anybody recommend some cool Avatars i am currently unable to use my old Favorites until my merge has correctly gone through

livid bridge
#

Test

covert blade
#

@devout berry Well that could happen to anyone you block tbh

#

Ya never know, some people might just act bad to get blocked so they know who to target

Then again, what more than spamming me with blocks (which I can then report to VRChat Moderation) can they really do

eager umbra
#

Is there some kind of hotkey to force mouse/keyboard in desktop mode? It thinks I have a controller plugged in and is just spinning wildly

umbral reef
#

No way to fix that beside unplugging it

covert blade
#

Just unplug it

eager umbra
#

There's none plugged in

covert blade
#

Uhhh

umbral reef
#

Bluetooth connected ones also count

#

Same as other stray usb devices

eager umbra
#

Ohh maybe the little thing for the steam controller, though the controller itself is off and in a case far away

broken plover
#

maybe type in "controller" in the windows search bar at the bottom. It will show any device that is recognized as a controller

umbral reef
#

Thats it then

eager umbra
#

Unplugged it, restarted, still spinning

#

It looks like it is a leftover virtual stick thing from when I was playing farm simulator

broken plover
#

do you have any racing wheels or something plugged in? Those also count

#

yeah I think virtual sticks also might cause issues. Disable it if its possible

eager umbra
#

Why would it assume if something is plugged in you'd want to use it?

#

I mean the esc key at least should work

broken plover
#

no idea. Alot of games are like that

covert blade
#

Games not properly supporting these kinds of things

broken plover
#

pubg always displayed xbox buttons just because I had one plugged in. But I was clearly using mouse and keyboard

covert blade
#

They detect something and use it, but without a setting to change anything or the ability for the game to dynamically switch input devices, you'll be stuck with problems

#

That's an oof

#

I've played games before that dynamically changed the button prompts depending on whether your mouse / keyboard or controller is being used

broken plover
#

and I didnt know the controls that well because I just got it back then so I had to ask my friend what button is what

eager umbra
#

yea I can't even get into a menu to disable it assuming such a choice exists

covert blade
#

But that's stuff that the game has to properly support

umbral reef
#

We do have a nice system to disable particles twice vrcSunglasses

eager umbra
#

hah tried to disable in device manager so I don't have to reinstall when I need it again... wants me to reboot 😄

#

wow that actually worked though \o/

covert blade
#

Yey

gloomy sentinel
#

sooo anyone remember how to get the giorno avatar that summons his stand holding a piano

viral laurel
#

I am requesting the location of the Untitled Goose avatar

uncut trail
#

Why do people stream on VRChat watching movies you know that agianst TOS (copywrite law)

#

Youtube is fine but movies ?

umbral reef
#

Because they dont know the rules and or dont care

uncut trail
#

Sad story though

rigid crescent
#

just report and move on, odds are if theyre doing it they dont care about their account anyway

uncut trail
#

What if i's amazon movies ?

#

Since Amazon owns twitch

vocal shard
#

doesn't matter

#

they don't own the movie

covert blade
#

That moment when you see a visitor wearing an offensive avatar, and you go and check avatar author and it says that the visitor uploaded it

wet sluice
#

Wat

#

Das bad

covert blade
#

I actually double checked to make sure I wasn't just making things up, but no, avatar author was a visitor

#

Snapped a bunch of screenshots and gonna make a report now

warped creek
#

Maybe they got degraded from New User?

covert blade
#

Considering he was in an offensive avatar, possibly

#

Note to self: Actually block or hide the person that I intend to report so I can find their profile more easily

#

Thank god for output logs and those random 4 digits at the end of someone's name if they use a Steam account

slate verge
#

that happens sometimes and yeah

covert blade
#

They had some really freaky characters that aren't searchable

slate verge
#

i was mind blown too when i saw it and blocked them as well

covert blade
#

So I ended up grabbing those four numbers at the end of the name and searched via that

#

I should block or hide someone I intend to report just so I can grab their profile link from the website

#

Not sure why I didnt do it then but I guess I was too busy taking photos and being confused as to how a visitor can have anything uploaded

slate verge
#

understandable

covert blade
#

I mean, first time seeing that

inner cape
#

uploaded before the system was implemented vrcTupper

warped creek
#

You know... VKet worlds are all uploaded from an account that appears to be New User rank.

inner cape
#

but thats even more unlikely than getting deranked

covert blade
#

Isn't VKet a bit special in that regard anyways?

inner cape
#

vket probably got the special treatment, devs do that to some people

covert blade
#

Probs same with the public Tafi models

inner cape
#

you just need to have enough clout

covert blade
#

But those two things are officially featured ingame
Now that random person?

#

Probs not

#

But I doubt he'll be keeping his avatar for long

inner cape
#

sasha pullin a " vrpill 👉 One Month " on them

#

classic

covert blade
#

inb4 nothing happens

inner cape
#

we wont know anyway

covert blade
#

Usually not

#

When I reported someone uploading a public booth model and making it lewd, I did know about that because someone told me, from where ever they know

#

Could verify because the avatar was gone from my favs

inner cape
#

pray and spray

#

we need another ban wave

warped creek
#

There apparently was one recently

covert blade
#

Yeah, but we need another one

#

Should really consider recording stuff but eh, hard drive

inner cape
#

just stream 4head

covert blade
#

Also if I was gonna do that I'd be doing it first and foremost to keep memories

uncut trail
#

time to stay away from public/friends+/inv+ worlds again

warped creek
#

That's... everything?

uncut trail
#

Due to streamer got his avatar stolen

inner cape
#

ofc streamers get sniped, doesnt mean everywhere is the same

covert blade
#

Of course, if you exclusively hang out with your friends you minimize the risk of something like that happening

uncut trail
#

He did

#

some hackers can't be blocked

#

Can join friend+ or inv+ world

#

without you being their friend

covert blade
#

Well, I would know a way how to do that without hacking....

vocal shard
#

They can get blocked but they will still see and hear you still but you won't

covert blade
#

But you do you
I just know that I will not limit myself because of things like that ^^

indigo fern
#

thats just not true lmao, theyd at least need the world id somehow, and only way to get that is by being friends or having an alt as a friend

inner cape
#

youre a part of the problem if you hide in privates is my opinion

indigo fern
#

or else hackers would be joining dev streams all the time, which they always wanted to

uncut trail
#

I notice alot of vrchat teams on today

inner cape
#

theyre all working tiresly to help your streamer 🙂

wet sluice
#

Yea, I'm certain the "hackers joining privates" is just because a lot of people accept friend requests from bots that some client out there uses.

covert blade
#

Imagine accepting friend requests from bots

vocal shard
#

^

covert blade
#

I mean, I tend to be fairly quick on the vrcFriendreq sometimes but usually it's either I already knew from somewhere, seen ingame or at least talked to on Discord or Twitter

#

Or friends of friends

#

Can't relate

wet sluice
#

What

modern sand
vocal shard
#

help

#

im trying to launch the game from oculus launcher and the game only shows on my screen in desktop mode but not in headset

calm nexus
#

Hey I'm having trouble with having a prop connect to my avatar's hand. I already made the prop the child of the hand so I'm not sure what the problem could be

grim canopy
#

I finally decided to create a new wishes character body for my elsa... since its now outdated

wheat hawk
#

is there an LFG channel in this server?

#

id like to find some people to play with

grim canopy
#

Goodnight Everyone!!! Zeldalove

#

I’m going to bed

#

💤

ripe bramble
#

hi if i want to get a avatar but not able to do it where do i go?

snow wadi
#

Well there are 2 ways to go about it: You either go in VRChat and search in Avatar Worlds, or make one yourself by using Zbrush, Blender and Unity.
LucoaOkay
You can also have one commissioned by a modeler as well, for that just search for the discord server 'VRC Traders' in the #community-servers-old channel.

vocal shard
#

don't sleep in vr

broken plover
#

break into your friends house and sleep with them instead

vocal shard
#

Question - Is there a way to move in VRChat without doing the third person move thing? Cause that lags my game soooo bad

#

Idk why, it just does

devout berry
#

Go to menu and uncheck holoport.

broken plover
#

^

devout berry
#

It is under settings.

vocal shard
#

Oh I didn't even think to check settings 🙃 Thanks ^^

#

Is this in-game settings or like steam settings?

broken plover
#

in game

vocal shard
#

Oki

#

Thanks :3

jovial pulsar
#

Quick question, someone just crashed the entire lobby we were in, but sadly I didn't see who it was, will the crash report reveal who did it should I report it?
Or will it go nowhere without a name?

devout berry
#

In the logs, there is a list of all users that were in the room, but you have no way to tell who was the crasher. + moderation wants picture/video proof.

#

The crashing is undetectable, because their modified client will order the api as if you changed the avatar yourself. If you look there, you will clearly see, that "you" activated an avatar pedestral.

#

@jovial pulsar

jovial pulsar
#

Ahh, well hopefully someone got him then :x

ivory folio
#

If it's a force avatar change it will also show who did it

grim canopy
#

Good morning everyone!!!

covert blade
#

@grim canopy sipbagel Good morning to you too

grim canopy
#

Good morning

vocal shard
#

hyyyyyy

#

@grim canopy

sterile ingot
#

Does anyone know the best location to use for a VPN to get a fast connection to the VRC servers? Is AWS hosting?

devout berry
#

From what I read in many convos, yeah - it should be AWS.

sterile ingot
#

Gives me a good idea of where the data centers are. Now I just need to remember where most of AWS was hosted.

devout berry
#

(...and take it down...) 🤣

#

🤣

sterile ingot
#

Could have done that a long time ago, though now it's too late. Amazon was making a HUGE security mistake I tried telling them, "Um, you aren't supposed to do this . . ." I wasn't listened to.

umbral reef
#

@sterile ingot A vpn with a location close to you or between you and the US AWS servers

#

If your like in the eu you dont want it to go to Austrailia and then US back to straya to you

sterile ingot
#

I was trying to figure out the closest location to the AWS servers. Amazon is very tight lipped about where there data centers are located. Fortunately I used to work for them as a Data Center Technician.

umbral reef
#

Unless its in the exact same room and all it wont really change stuff

sterile ingot
#

It makes a difference if I am say connected to Texas vs anywhere on the West Coast.

#

I most definitely have noticed a performance difference depending on where I am connected. I am just trying to figure out which was fastest.

umbral reef
#

Should be east coast

sterile ingot
#

😇

#

Huh, there is no whistling emogi . . .

faint skiff
#

"Amazon was making a HUGE security mistake I tried telling them" datacentre locations aren't closely guarded secrets, especially when their location is important to many/most clients.

sterile ingot
#

Then why did I have to sign an NDA?

#

Maybe to business clients they get to know. In general though it was a kept secret where they were located. As I mentioned before, I used to work for them.

#

Awful place to work.

umbral reef
#

Most places that work with any type of data or security worthy things make you sign a NDA
Even if you just clean the place and everyone in town knows its there

#

Big odds they are more worried about you telling some bad peeps on how to get inside the building then where it exactly is because if they can they cna find that out anyway

sterile ingot
#

I was specifically told not to tell people where the data centers were. I dunno if it could be any more explicit.

#

Seriously, are you guys arguing against my professional experience? Have you worked for Amazon and know something I don't know or something?

umbral reef
#

For amazone? Nah, For other places where im not allowed to talk about where they are because its easier to write that in a contract? Yea

humble timber
sterile ingot
#

Okay, well you will have to take my word on it then, won't you?

#

Amazon is unlike most other data centers with perhaps exceptions to the other members of the big three (Microsoft and Google).

#

Except those other two run better hardware . . .

grim canopy
#

You Rang The Bell? 🧟‍♂️

sterile ingot
#

Dumb question. I sometimes see avatars mess with props for their characters. I've seen Derp Chan with tide pods, I've seen other characters handle guns or swords. How do they do that?

#

Some of the public avatars I have found have props, though I don't know if I can actually interact with them.

broken plover
#

they are added to your avatar and then activated via an animation (mostly the gestures)

sterile ingot
#

I'll have to check animations for those characters. Thank you.

covert blade
#

@queen hare Random question, but doesn't the turret in the Maid with Science world have a remote somewhere? Couldn't find it when I was exploring on my own D:
It just menacingly looked at me

#

Actually easier in VR since you can hear behind you
But I use the same headphones as I do in desktop mode

queen hare
#

I accidentally updated it with a previous version. So no remote for now.

covert blade
#

*audible oof in the distance

queen hare
#

I also moved, so my PC with the later version is far away lol

covert blade
#

Ohdamn

#

At least now I know that I'm not blind

queen hare
#

It isn't hard to remake, but I have a bunch of stuff to do

covert blade
#

It's fine
I was just a bit confused because I remember the remote from the Community Meetup and couldn't find it when I was looking for it, thinking I was just being stupid

sterile ingot
#

Being able to hear things behind you is awesome. My Logitec G933 just can't compare to the audio on my Index. There's a reason people rave over those . . . speakers.

covert blade
#

I have a Vive so no built in audio, but my current headphones do a pretty good job

#

But in desktop mode, it is a lot easier (imo) to turn quickly and avoid the traps in the Maid maze

wise pilot
#

Hello everyone I hope everyones day is going wonderful if not then next time It will probably be better

grim canopy
#

gonna get a shower and then get ready for meetups...

vocal shard
#

hi

coarse chasm
#

"We will have more information on upcoming Valve Index availability soon."

#

Good news boyos

small wing
#

Any advice for inspiring myself to make avatars / worlds again? So far what seems to help is to try new things, but i'm not getting that "push over the edge" to actually make anything.

#

It seems creation is purely sensorial for me. If I don't feel good when making something, I just stop making it.

rigid crescent
#

that's basically all the poor avatars I've deleted halfway through completion

#

maybe try something challenging

#

I don't really know what that'd be at your skill level but

small wing
#

Signed distance fields trained with a generative adversarial network to raymarch my actual face from my webcam, got it.

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//i wish//

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I think my issue is i'm at the point where the next big step will take a lot more effort. I'm stepping into the realm of that shit isnt common and that is intimidating.

devout berry
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@small wing What type of inspiration you seek? Challenge?

small wing
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Creative expression.

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I want to get back into making avatars with musical experiences, but also some how make them more interactive.

opaque plank
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hi guys

devout berry
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Don't know if it will help here, but when someone says to me to get avatar inspiration, I think of going to vket archived worlds and look what Japanese modelers done.

small wing
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I have looked into Vket. Its hard to get inspired from others works though without feeling like its unoriginal.

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I think I make too many excuses. Which isn't helping me at all.

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I need to get out of this mindset I feel.

devout berry
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I also really like the vket worlds themselves. Now imagine, if VRChat team asked Japanese community to make the tutorial map, the hub and the UI + loadings. That could be really nice!

desert stratus
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@small wing take all of the inspiration man

quasi urchin
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Hello

vocal shard
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does anybody know how to switch to custom avatars thru the website

ruby needle
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Please dont go to multiple channels with the same question

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Thanks

vocal shard
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i need help

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no

rigid crescent
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@small wing Honestly, VKet as far as models go is nothing special. They're nice models, but it's really just a bunch of anime models and some interesting toon shaders. It's cool and all as a concept, but I doubt much would help you there unless you're making things from scratch and bring something that lets you see topology

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Like the coolest Booth stuff I can see geared towards creators is things like Snori's arms/legs and other creators props.

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You'd waste your time going through the VKet worlds when you could just go to Booth, sort by Popular, and scroll through basically the same stuff https://booth.pm/en/browse/3D Models

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while weeding out the "lower quality" work

devout berry
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I'd say it is about the thing, if you want it to be a VR experience or just browse web. VKET is for people who want VR shopping experience.

rigid crescent
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Well he's looking for avatar creation inspiration not a VR shopping experience so

devout berry
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Also you can't cram too much stuff in vket or it will end up unusable from performance standpoint, so for browsing, web is better.

indigo fern
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if anything, just look through concept art on artstation or even pinterest
thats what a lot of people do for inspiration

sterile ingot
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How expensive do commissioned avatars get?

rigid crescent
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sky's the limit

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all depends on what it is, the quality, what it's for, etc.

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and who's making it

glad bolt
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One of my from scratch avatars cost me $300

rancid flame
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what rights came with that avatar?

glad bolt
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That was also without dynamic bones, particles, eye tracking, visemes (he's wearing a mask, so he didn't need them).

uncut trail
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I was offered $80 for model converted from FFXIV

glad bolt
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Rights? Oh, it's my own OC, I just paid someone to make it into an avatar. c:
So, end of the day, the design is mine and not allowed to be used by anyone else unless I choose to do so.

rigid crescent
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idk if it still is but converting stuff from FFXIV used to be a pain in the ass

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A lot of artists don't care, but with bigger projects you typically need commercial rights even if you own the character design

sterile ingot
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So we just convert iconic characters? That's how I get Gandalf?

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I'm sure he's been in a game.

rigid crescent
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It'll look like trash but sure

sterile ingot
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Hrmmm

rigid crescent
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he hasn't been in any modern games so its all old models

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i mean there's the mobile game

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probably his best model lol

glad bolt
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Luckily, I'm keeping it away from the whole copyright waters

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That's a treacherous sea I don't wish to drown in.

rigid crescent
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If it's from scratch as well as the design, it really shouldn't matter anyway

glad bolt
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Ah, good. ^^

sterile ingot
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I wish I could draw better. I have no time to practice it when I have a whole bunch of other things I should be putting more time into.

wet sluice
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Just stamp © on the ass forehead

sterile ingot
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lol

glad bolt
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Whoa, we leave my boy's booty meat alone, Aria

rigid crescent
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It's why you commission artists

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I've got one big comm for an outfit/character design and I'll probalby get another for a model in the future

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Then I'll have an outfit made for my current one once the guy I wanna commission is caught up on his stuff

wet sluice
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Make it glow with the emissions of a thousand suns so everyone knows it's yours

rigid crescent
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I don't use assets that I don't have permission to use on any of my main models so I don't need to worry about any trouble

glad bolt
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Or just use incompatible shaders and you get the same effect, lol

rigid crescent
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It's an edited Booth model which I purchased, and then even my T-Shirt design I asked the artist permission to use because they drew it for a single release for an artist i listen to

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but i personally contacted them to be sure they were cool with it

glad bolt
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Mm, I really want to consider doing that for my current favourite model. It's got the face of a Filn model, but the body of a LM model, so I just want it recreated without any of those assets involved, y'know?

rigid crescent
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Yeah, stuf ffrom scratch is just pricey and not many people can do good anime faces

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People able to do bodies are easy to find, faces is where it gets tricks.

glad bolt
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Especially if I plan on using it for streaming... Right, yeah, that's the hardest to come by. :(

rigid crescent
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Well with streaming you should be fine in most cases anyway

uncut trail
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Hype to see VKet 2020 xD

rigid crescent
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Like I said, it isn't an issue until it really becomes commercial.

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And once you're at the point where it could become a brand issue ,youve likely got enough money to get something made from scratch

glad bolt
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Sound. Thanks, Mic. You're so insightful on this.

rigid crescent
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I'm around a lot of people who try to have something unique to them, or as unique as possible given the tools and budget they have.

glad bolt
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Ah, I see.

rigid crescent
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Bigger streamers will have something made from scratch like Cece or Ariyana , or something made from licensed parts like Zentreya if you know any of them

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and some people just like to have a unique identity

glad bolt
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I want to be that latter half. Something that people can associate with my "brand", so to speak

rigid crescent
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that's not to say you can't have a unique identity with a kitbash

sterile ingot
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I want a unique identity.

rigid crescent
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For that, I believe a design is more important than a model

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Zentreya's design is overall the same despite all the modle changes she's gone through

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That's a good example. If you've got the time, look through old Zentreya vids vs new ones. Cece's the same way, he kept his overall dragon girl design throughout his changes into a model from scratch

glad bolt
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I'll give that a look-see now. ^^

rigid crescent
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they keep the overall same design, just refining it gradually over time

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which is entirely possible via just kitbashing and texture editing, it's what a lot of people I know have done. the model doesn't have to be perfect all at once, you can tweak things here and there to see what you like as long as you keep the same general "look" that people associate with you. it's why my design is keeping my bright pastel and gradient color schemes despite it being a total different look

fading flower
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hmm

glad bolt
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Mm, I'm wanting to make a prince/royalty design for mine and I need to learn how to change/add outfits and such. It's really barebones now, but I've got the design downpat in my head. I want to see if I can do it or either have outside help.

rigid crescent
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THere's always the option to commission. those who cant do pay others to do

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also look to others' art and designs for inspiration if you can, always a good idea

glad bolt
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I think that's just what I'll have to do after I've filed my taxes. Will finally have breathing room to ask then. c:

rigid crescent
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i literally sent the artist all hte references i needed and then an "inspiration" folder in order for her to know what kind of look im trying to portray

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that and there's always the option of paying artists to do the design for you as well

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don't be afraid to use existing characters for references as long as youre not copying one for one too, this is an example of the images in my "inspiration" folder https://puu.sh/Fb3S2/0b73e5f2ae.png

glad bolt
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Ooh, I see. And that's how your current design came to be?

rigid crescent
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My tip would be making a folder, separate it into sub folders like "shirt, shoes, accessories, pants, hair, etc" and just add stuff that matches your style to each of them over time, then slowly parse out the things you want to narrow it down to

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Yeah, for example my Hair folder has images of Balalaika from Black Lagoon for the back hair but different referefences for the front and bangs, then a color example using my existing avatar. My clothing one has pics of Kittan's jacket from Gurren Lagann as well as KDA Kaisa from League of Legends.

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then for "parts" I've got my current model's ears, the eyes/eye makeup from bayonetta, and af ew eye examples i found on google images

glad bolt
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I think I'll get started on gathering references and sorting them tonight, then. So much inspiration is floating around and I don't want to let this slip away. Again, thank you so much, Mic. You're a huge help.

rigid crescent
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No problem, just be sure to keep the folder organized. Sometimes inspiration comes, but then you're like "Ehhh I don't really like this" so you can jsut toss some ideas out altogether

glad bolt
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Right. ^^

torpid tree
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Anyone know how to set a vrchat world to public?

ashen smelt
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yeah open the world menu and make new instance, then jsut set it to public

rigid crescent
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Look up "community labs" documentation on the website I think that explains it

ashen smelt
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also are anyone one having problems with joining friend only worlds?

glass grove
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Not me, no. Your friends list might not have refreshed yet- if that's the case try going to a different world and checking your friends list again.

ashen smelt
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i keep getting kicked by the world and loaded into the default model

glass grove
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Oh, do you think someone with a client might have changed your avatar? If so, it might be doing weird things to your game

ashen smelt
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not sure

glass grove
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Anyway, weird favor to ask but can someone crash me in-game? I'm trying to set up buffer recording in case I get crashed, but I've heard getting crashed can crash your recording software as well. I'd like to test this out, would anyone be willing to help me?

torpid tree
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@rigid crescent Got a long way to go before I can get it

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so just got a play a lot I guess

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How many hours do you need for user

glass grove
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I think it depends on what you're doing in game- if you're going to different worlds and friending people I think it goes faster

torpid tree
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I’m starting to upload content and stuff too, would that help?

glass grove
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I'd assume so, yeah. I don't know the specifics of the system tbh, just that you don't have to wait as long to rank up if you're active

torpid tree
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Mhm

rigid crescent
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Oh right, it's at User you get World permissions i think

torpid tree
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No trusted

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Actually

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I think

indigo fern
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No it's user

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Though having it at trusted or known would cut down on the bulk of worlds

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Or reuploaded box's tanabae

torpid tree
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Ok

sharp girder
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I'm so fascinated that I still gotta wear glasses in VR... I mean...What I am looking at isn't ACTUALLY 5 feet away, it's right infront of my face, but it's still blurry as if it were 5 feet away

vocal shard
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Optics

wet sluice
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1-2m focal points being most common

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3.25-6.5ft for the freedom units

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Just get one of the lens inserts. I still need to get one myself actually...

deep obsidian
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Alguém

molten gale
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Thats the most selfish and inconsiderate line I heard in a while wow

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You seem to be fun to be around

deft girder
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Don't have the hub as your home world?

rigid crescent
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ok?

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How many people do you think have bad memories associated with other holidays? that's just a selfish request dude.

molten gale
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Ikr

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Also hi mic

rigid crescent
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ayy

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are you goin to bash tonight

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i forgot when it starts

molten gale
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Yep

rigid crescent
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eta?

molten gale
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12 minutes afaik

rigid crescent
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💤 man i hate getting on this early

molten gale
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my dumb trackers are still charging

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well 2 of 3 are charged

rigid crescent
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im just gonna bite the bullet and get the new straps, tired of my shit dying so quick

molten gale
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I ordered them

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they sent me 20 bucks compensation after they noticed ive been waiting since 2+ months

rancid flame
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The tracks traps are great.

molten gale
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they have shipping issues where I live

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so it will be another few weeks

rigid crescent
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i wanted to wait til i had some more money but i have enough now

molten gale
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It seems like my hip was still on?

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Thats why its charging so slow

rigid crescent
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RIP

rancid flame
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F

molten gale
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That makes no sense tho

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Steamvr isnt even on

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yet it glowed green

rigid crescent
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ive spent too much money this month and im sure i'll regret it soon enough 🙂

molten gale
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Well ill be on before they take the group pic

rigid crescent
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im never on in time

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how far in is the pic?

molten gale
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30 mins

rigid crescent
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jeez

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i probably wont make it

molten gale
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Damn

rigid crescent
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i usually dont egt on for another hour or so, but maybe i'll hop in in halfbody

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i jsut hate my fbt dying early

molten gale
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Nah take ya time

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Ill likely also do that

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Mic they delayed it

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Techncal diff

rigid crescent
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the e vent or the pic

molten gale
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Event

rigid crescent
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smh bagel still having issues, damn

molten gale
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lul

sterile ingot
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Where is the event?

molten gale
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Update: Event started

sterile ingot
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How do I watch?

rigid crescent
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no streamin allowed

sterile ingot
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I don't stream

rigid crescent
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im saying theres no way to watch cause no stream

sterile ingot
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I thought it was in VR Chat

gloomy monolith
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avatar search feature should be added

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puttin that our there

vocal shard
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Avatars are related to peoples accounts and shared by their choice in worlds they make, not specifically made to be publicly searched.

rancid flame
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just toured the museum and its amazing.

sterile bolt
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who's alone i'm alone

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;-;

broken plover
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🗿 I’m alone check 🗿

sterile bolt
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oh

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ok

vocal shard
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I noticed that when friends with vr use my avatars, they have more custom animations than me on desktop, is there a way to use them, I tried left shift and right shift.

sterile bolt
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who have steam?

mortal girder
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my vrchat is stuck at 0% whenever loading into worlds???

dusky oxide
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I'm on steam

meager solstice
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@vocal shard they shouldn’t have more?

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Don’t really see how that’s possible

vocal shard
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Unless possibly the animations require two hand gestures at the same time

indigo fern
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You can use two hand gestures on desktop too, left shift is left hand, right is right

vocal shard
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@meager solstice @indigo fern I tried all f-keys with both left, right, and both pressed.

indigo fern
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You sure the avatar you're using does anything?

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If you see your hands changing that means the gestures at least work

broken plover
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go infront of a mirror to see your hands btw

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because its hard to see your hands in desktop mode

vocal shard
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They do, i have a cloned versioned of it.

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And i know that some of the animations work.

dusky oxide
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is there a general set time before u canupload custom avatars? Had my steam account for a couple years but just merged it earlier today after following a guide on how to set up unity and the SDK for it, and its telling me I'm not allowed, was looking through the docs but don't see any indication

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steam VRC that is

vocal shard
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You have to play vr chat untill you rank from visitor to new user

dusky oxide
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yeah was asking how long that normally takes since I've been on it for a couple years now

vocal shard
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It took me about 1 or 2 weeks of playing daily

dusky oxide
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ah so I should send a ticket?

vocal shard
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What you mean by ticket?

dusky oxide
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email to support

vocal shard
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Its normal that your not allowed to make avatars, you just need to play vr chat untill it tells you your allowed to.

dusky oxide
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I think we're circling back here

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I've been on VRC for about 2 years

broken plover
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what rank are you in vrc?

vocal shard
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New user

dusky oxide
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but I'm currently unable to upload avatars still

vocal shard
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I dunno

dusky oxide
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unless that only starts once u make a VRC account thats NON steam and link it

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that's what I'm trying to confirm

broken plover
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You need a vrc account to log in to upload. Steam accounts wont work in unity. So you can link a vrc account and then use that to log in

dusky oxide
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I did say that @broken plover guessing my msgs aren't showing, or somethings up w/ discord then, I'll try later

broken plover
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thats weird. Send in a support ticket then

eternal pewter
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Hey gamers

tawny elk
opaque heron
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does anyone know how i can fix it that when i'm in vr and sit in a chair that my camera doesn't go higher or deeper when the chair turns sideways?

wet sluice
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V-Tubers sleeping in VRChat :O

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@pseudo basalt @broken plover @boreal kelp speaking of sleeping

pseudo basalt
wet sluice
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Sorry, no translations yet. It's pretty easy to understand though. They... did not sleep very well.

rigid crescent
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amateurd

wet sluice
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Lol. I may have misunderstood but I don't remember them saying they did anything extra to alleviate discomfort.

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I like how they didn't just launch a unity VR instance (which they do for a lot other random videos), but actually chose to sleep in vrchat.

pseudo basalt
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If you're on windows 10 and it's not working, you might be missing some codecs or something

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Try installing a codec pack

wet sluice
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What? Codecs are all hardware decoding based these days.

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Try checking vrchat logs right after attempting to load a video

ruby needle
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you'll not need a codec pack on windows 10, if it's not working something else is messed up.
Unless you have a W10N version without the media featues or you messed them up somehow.

wet sluice
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I find the video players require hitting the rewind button before they work

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!outputlog

floral flaxBOT
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You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt

wet sluice
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Try a video player, record the time, then check there once you're done playing

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I think it's missing one or two lines, just send further stuff to #user-support-old when you're out of vr.

ruby needle
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use pastebin or similar if you wanna post bigger chunks of log cirComfy

wet sluice
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Looks like an empty URL is being entered

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That's very odd indeed

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!cleancache

floral flaxBOT
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You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them

vocal shard
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?

vocal shard
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My quest is on its way! And I already have a link cable!

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😔

faint skiff
umbral reef
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I think you know the answer

sterile ingot
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🙄

devout berry
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SOB! And even does flex on YT! Why the hell is that user not banned?!

umbral reef
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Gee almost like making alt accounts is easy

broken plover
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report and use that video as evidence

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also ip ban that guy so he would need a vpn if he wants to play again

ruby needle
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@faint skiff Please dont link to people showing off clients or similar

faint skiff
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It's literally a video of they themselves crashing an entire room

devout berry
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Sadly there is no way to stop them from making an alt.

faint skiff
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@umbral reef Their steam account shows nearly 1800 hours, so they're even using Steam to do it

umbral reef
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@faint skiff Using steam aint using a steam account...

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So not sure why that changes anything

faint skiff
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"Please don't link to proof, people may get the impression that the game is rife with "hackers" and what they may be able to do to you..."

devout berry
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Steam just logs how long the software downloaded with it ran.

wet sluice
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Well, there is one way but even if they've already begun there's no way they'd say it until they've succeeded