#vrchat-general-2
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hey, someone turned my avatar into a crasher and i keep crashing when i load in, how do i fix this
can i clear the cache or something
Do you have a vrchat.com account?
no
i use through steam
Awwe ok, you can reset your avatar on the website if you had one.
You can try spamming Ctrl+\ while loading in. That's the hotkey to reset your avatar
ok ok
is there no other way to fix this except ctrl+/
guys
uh, i have a swedish keyboard, and to turn on / in anyway requires me to hold shift and then press 7, do i have to switch to english keyboard layout?
what the FUCK is a dynamic bone
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ggrks
Oh, try Ctrl+~
@vocal shard
Different layouts seem to have worked with different combinations
its been 3 minutes, calm down
imagine expecting support from devs that ban people for using clients that add non-malicious features that should be a part of the base game anyway
It's not the dev's job to help you, for one
and two, they detect "are you using a client: Yes or no?" not "ok so is this the goodboy client"
just don't use it, it isn't hard lol its no one's fault but the user if they use a modded client
ok, i have a question, ive been playing vrchat with my steam account, and i have several avatars saved, will i lose them if i make a vrchat account ?
You can link your steam and vrchat account
@vocal shard it should work with just Ctrl + § on a swedish layout
Does merging keep favs? I forgot
ok lemme try
oh you mean uploaded ones? those should stay
didnt work
Works for me 🤷
do i have to spam it or do i have to press it as soon as i load in
Yeah it won't work with that kind of avatar even if the key does work. You'll probably have to contact support
brug
🤷♂️ people wouldn't use a client if things would actually get fixed in the game
Yes they would
They definitely would lol
It's still their fault for using them, nothing else matters.
how is my personal email and username already taken as a vrchat account?
90% of peopel i know that use clients use it for avatarfav and optimization tools...
Avatar favorites being limited aren't a bug
Nor are DB not being interactable. It has nothing to do with just "fixing" the game
eh
Even if the bug-related things were fixed, people would still use clients.
^
it has nothing to do with bugs, that's just an excuse people use
still think it's asinine
Just like knowingly using a client that can get you banned, yeah
it's not like you're cheating at csgo
There's always people going to use mods since there's always people unhappy with the developers decisions
Nerd
It's been like that in basically every game imaginable
It still doesn't matter. It's bannable, they know it's bannable. Just don't do it and you most likely won't get banned
imagine getting banned from skyrim
Imagine thinking single player and multiplayer are the same thing
imagine not getting the point
I mean Sasha's statement isn't any less correct because you used a singleplayer game as an exampe
It's "people unhappy with the developer's decisions" lol
Yup
To be fair, using a client also has a very low chance of getting banned since there is no mod detection
So it seems like you're the one missing the point. It's bannable. They know it's bannable and still use it. End of story
Every so often a chunk of people get banned for it at once
If the mod spams the API that can be a reason
but yes, unless you're actively misusing it in public, you likely won't get banned unless they do a quick wave
how do i get the account link token
It's got a minute limit anyway doesn't it?
Oh right you have to be able to get into the game to get the link token lol
Apparently one of the mods that people like to use had a bug and it spammed the server with requests
how do i get it
Which is how the most recent ban wave happened
It's fun because from what I was told people got all paranoid
Meanwhile I'm just sitting here playing the game normally and laughing
Bans were anywhere from 3 days to a month lol
like 3/4 my friends list is banned for 30 days for using avatarfav xD
the server for the past couple of days has just been kids crying because they or someone they know got banned for using clients lol
Well, now they know better
what happens if i click the "clear downloaded content cache" will that fix it?
yes they know better for exceeding an arbitrary limit on avatar favorites
It won't fix it
fuckl
They know better for using a modded client.
The rules are pretty clear. Don't do it. Period. It doesn't matter if it's "good" or not.
^
i logged into the vrchat account, do you need to be logged into the steam account?
Yes
why is this so scuffed
Just email support
how
still seems like a dumb rule if you're not affecting any other player
#vrchat-support or open a ticket, whatever
well what should i say then?
what you said here
do i link my steam?
It's really not a dumb rule at all
explain then
It makes moderation so much easier because you don't have to make up weird rules for when a mod counts as malicious or not
Detecting a "good" and "bad" modded client for one is a lot harder than just "oh modded client"
Instead, any mod = ban
Done
Besides, they may have other reasons why they don't want people to temper with the functionality of the game
or maybe it's just ban by malicious behavior
How do you think that would be done?
reporting players
That's inefficient
I suppose the same way it is done right now when you act bad in front of other players
thats a seperate issue entirely though
It's easier to blanket ban anyone using a modded client than to hope someone is able to catch people on video every time they're misusing it
clients are independent from behaviour
then why do they even have the button for it then
It's supplementary. It isn't a 100% surefire thing,
whats "add cc" in the support ticket?
and how do you report me if I've already kicked you from the room because you looked at me funny?
the weebsite
How do you know it was me?
instance history
...
And if there were more than two players in that instance?
So out of the 20 people in an instance, you'll know exactly who did it AND have proof?
Oh yeah, have fun finding the one guy that kicked you in a room of 30 players
probably the dude that had it out for you
probably
or the only one still online
Your argument is already falling apart, just give it up already
heyo
But it's not certain, and therefore invalid for reports
Actually, imma let mic handle that one 
Clients are detectable and predictable. And all the "bad" clients would masquerade as "good" if they had to differentiate them.
If I'm in a room with 20 people, you say something I don't like, and I force kick you, how do you prove it's me?

and now we'll throw in "odd" characters in the username to the mix
Or maybe you were playing with nameplates off, or maybe you didn't even see my name to begin with?
Maybe I was invisible?
I mean people can do that same shit without a moddified client anyways
My point is that your method is extremely flawed dude
You can't even expain to me how youd report me via the website if I force kicked you
So how will anyone else manage to report people using bad clients?
Catching bad ones is jsut as hard as catching good ones, which is why it's better to just disallow them altogether
clients need to be bannable because they can override safety settings and abuse necessary functions
Clients are bannable. Its in the TOS.
Its even in the loading screens. Says it right there.
my point is that most people with clients are just trying to impove their player experience. I understand your points but I'm also in a state of ehh about it all because i've never seen it abused in the specific ways you mention. not that it doesn't happen... but it seems like it'll happen any bannable or not
Which is why making clients bannable overall is the best solution right now.
People force kick ALL the time though, that's nothing new lol
why is that even possible to do from client side
most people with illicit substances are just trying to prove their experience, but they should be willing to face the consequences
rules are rules are rules, its just that simple
I've gotten in shit for that too lol
You know what you're getting in to when you use a modded client. It's black and white man
yeah but rules also can be changed
I have plenty of friends that use them, and they all do so knowing they can be banned on the spot for it.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. (I.E a ban) 😉
Why should this rule change? I already explained why it's better for it to exist right now
Your solution to "Bad clients" is to report people using them. You can't even explain to me how you'd report me if I force kicked you from a room.
so how would we change this one? allow clients and ban players based on action? have a client whitelist?
a whitelist wouldnt work lol
and banning based on actions we've already established is near impossible at the moment
Almost everything a modded client does to "enhance the experience" most likely can be done with custom avatars anyways. Seeing through walls? Yeah thats just a camera component. Flying? Colliders.
Uh
Using a modded client is just a lazy and risky way to enjoy the game if you ask me.
I don't condone it.
most people who ive seen use the excuse of the extra features really just want the power to crash people
The features most people want are just optimization features, search enhancers, avatarfav, and join notifications.
There's plenty of random shiet out there, things like global dynabones or qol things like turning chairs off or force low mirror if you need it
Join notifications only need output log and api parsing, no modded client needed
Or that dumb one that lets you jump in worlds that don't have jumping on lmao
imagine risking a ban to be able to jump lol
It doesn't matter what/why they want them dude, you can't differentiate a "good" or "bad" client. THe easiest way to catch people using bad ones is to catch people using ANY client because not using them is literally a rule
Photon is cursed lol.
just get full body and jump around 4head
Broton 🤜 🤛
xD
If you can tell me how you'd personally catch and report me for force kicking you from a room, then we might be on to something but until then you dont really have much footing here.
Global dyn bones is possible without clients. People are just lazy
I understand you point, but I will have to agree to disagree that the only solution is just ban everyone
If you disagree, then what's your solution?
server level logs should be able to catch people force banning others
Output log shouldn't detect a kick afaik
Something needs to be there.
If its run through an API there is always going to be traces.
Code doesn't just "exist"
it auto-approves a votekick doesnt it?
Most force kicks are done with multiple accounts, those can't really be traced
Its set instructions with recorded outcomes.
Yeah but at what point does the person using a client send the packets to each user to mass kick?
I imagine the force kick is exploiting something to do with votekicks. If a votekick is initialized and user is then kicked in a timespan that's humanily impossible then the logs should be able to flag that
You don't even need to be in game to force kick, it literally can't be traced
OK, so what's it traced to?
the ip/mac of the source of the command
ok, so it's spoofed
Use proxies?
What VRChat needs is a checks and balances system.
now what
You dont need to be in game to kick
Im just lurking this conversation at the moment, but if this is true, its massively silly
API doesn't work without a key, that key is your login token.
You mean my millionth alt's login token ye?
i mean you're just poking wholes in the default client security now
It is true, you can spoof your location in the API and force kick someone from anywhere
Wouldn't be hard to lump accounts by IP. Most people don't bother with VPNs.
this isn't even modded client territory anymore
Yes, and those holes are why modded clients are banned soooo
.... so fix the holes
"just fix it" doesnt really work lol
You don't even need a modded client, you can literally just go into the API and do it in your browser, it's very silly. I could create a session, which says it was created by Mic, to some random person's private world.
Regardless, modded clients are banned and for good reason.
seems like the base client should be banned at this point
and like I said, til you can tell me how you'd somehow trace a force kick back to me, you dont have much footing
Wait a minute, why are we trying to prove anything to this guy?
I gave many examples of how. The shit code of the game seems to omit all that though
lol
Oh true, they clearly don't understand
Just go and play with what's left of your friends list dude, they'll be unbanned in a few days
I'm not judging anyone for using them.
I thought we were all having a constructive talk here. Not trying to berate and bash someone with opinion. Yeah fuck that.
Sorry to anyone who though I was picking sides here, damn.
I have friends that use them. I don't care that they do it, people just need to realize it's bannable.
This server is pretty good at bashing people with the wrong opinion
True
I'm not bashing him for his opinion, I'm telling him that what he wants isn't as simple as he thinks it is
Sucks when I always think its constructive.
I'm moreso trying to mak ethem realize that but they just come up with more excuses
Well I don't feel bashed, so I assumed it was directed at me lol
I know it's not simple, but when you get millions of dollars in develop money you'd think some of that would goto security services
not blanket policies
lol the one time they're overly transparent it's on the one thing the armchair devs will use against them smh
i cant believe this conversation is still happening :-)
Eh, I'm gonna go look at anime titty and work on unity crap. Later 🤙
Ye, some people just won't learn, so I guess it's a waste of time. It is bannable and will remain bannable for good reason
pretty much done here lol
"armchair dev"
Life is too short to argue with some random person on the internet lulz
Out of curiosity from an earlier point brought up, why is there an avatar fav limit?
no, thats the most fun part
@vestal pier Send me anime
Iunno
I dont watch any anime Red
send me pictures of ur feet
Uh ok sec
he doesnt have feet
bet
So I'm not allowed to criticize if I'm not personally involved in development of the code. cool
he does tho, its under the hat in his pfp
You are allowed to criticize, you just need to make better points that aren't "ok but i dont like it"
@tame island Best guess is so they can monetize favourite amounts in the future? i think theres an actual reason cant remember
Ok! Thank u asis!
but if we have hte monetization convo, it'll attract another unholy being
i doubt they planned on monetizing it from the beginning, it started at 3 and they increased it because one guy felt like it
but now its probably in the back of their minds
They increased it because the servers were dying aroudn christmas, everyone was on break, and it's all they could think to do to "appease" people
or maybe its in the mind of the virtual economy manager that theyre looking for
wink wonk, apply now
It was a pathetic attempt at panem et circus
because i forgot the latin word for circus
"H-Haha, guys I know some of you can't connect (and secretly I know you won't be able to for at least a month or longer due to our network IK rollback fuckup), but here! More favorite slots! Oh....Wait they don't work?"
I forgot that was when favorite slots almost never saved lol
@tame island To encourage exploration of worlds.
mic you dont remember?
https://discordapp.com/channels/189511567539306508/337243225649840128/525850735242641429
That was the reasoning for 3 wasn't it?
it kinda does the opposite of encouraging me to explore worlds if I know i'ma have to drop one of my favorite avatars if I find another i like
Oh hey it's the same guy who said "favorite slots should work now!" and they didn't stabilize for a week. What's his job anyway?
God King Ron wanted to save more chairs 🙏
Changing avatars constantly is annoying TBH, not sure why people feel the need to just cycle through them constantly.
memes
Mostly just shitty meme avatars
See?
Most people I know just have their OC model or main model with outfit variants and that's it, then the occasional meme but eh
I got like 2 avatars I use regularly and then 14 memes
I'm so shook
I haven't used up my avatar slots yet
I know a load of people with the modded clients and their literally constant fucking cycling through of avatars is what makes me hate it even more. It's so annoying. (especially if you play with tags off)
i mean people could also upload an unlimited amount...
I feel bad for people with low RAM when a client user comes in
That requires some level of effort, which at least puts some barrier between people and the incessant need to change avatars.
I think the only thing more annoying than people who change avatars every 30 seconds are people who talk to you while violently swinging the movement thumbstick around.
ok buddy. some people are adhd
Then get medication and stop subjecting everyone else to your mental issues
Twiddle something else then
ok i'll just jump in place instead then
I'm sorry that my brain's thirst for stimulation annoys you
i'll make sure to keep that in mind the next time i'm restless
Good way to get blocked. Reminds me of the people that post on Reddit saying people ignore them, when in reality they act like hyperactive screeching 5 year olds.
imagine blocking someone for a minor annoyance
Jk, my head hurts when people do that
When I'm trying to talk to you (or listen to you) it's a major annoyance.
or a fidget box, those work
and how am i supposed to use a fidget device with a controller strapped to my hand?
Glue it to your controller, duh
give your avatar one pog
^ bigbrainplays
I can understand disagreement with my opinion on the clients and such... but outright banning people because of a mental disorder that's incredibly common and the medicine for which is incredibly destructive and addictive is a dick move. politely asking them to stop would be a much better solution
No one is banning anyone because of a mental disorder
What where did you even get that idea
not banning. meant blocking
If you're being enough of an annoying to bother me, I'm going to hide, mute, or possibly block you. There's no reason not to
well, blocking is not just for actual problems, some times its there for preference
Why would I ask them to stop? They can keep doing it all they want, I just won't see it.
It's not like I'm blocking people I know lol
It's likely a total stranger across the room being annoying
yea, blocking is probably better than asking them to stop, they do them
It's like when I mute people playing music
Why would I ask you to stop when everyone else is enjoying the music?
muting people is different then blocking them
well, its when they have only an audio annoyance and not a visual one
blocking them is like completely erasing them from existence
If they start getting in my face or just intruding on convos ill block them
unless they are a visitor it wont bring them to nuisance
I've got a ton of people blocked lol
yea, its not really a big deal
do me a favor, check the people who blocked you too
I feel like blocking people for fidgeting is extreme
kk
i blocked mic
ive only blocked 5 or so people
😂
Out of all of those, I only know why 4 blocked me
oh my finger mustve slipped on the friend button
I've never met the other ones, not that I'm aware of lol
I lied actually
Actually no, 4 is right 
I don't know why any of mine blocked me
One of them blocked me randomly when i wasnt interacting with them, I saw them do it and i was like "oh ok" lol
two people have blocked me. no idea why but meh
yea, i know literally none of the people who blocked me
also, i swear they purged these like sometime last year
i couldve sworn i remember more
Fantasys blocked me because I told her my favorite streamer was her sister
lmao
and the rest are again more people ive never met. probably snoring in the lobby tbh
2
I've blocked 18 people. All of which were probably crashers or racist
https://pastebin.com/cTs3BgFD here's my blocks
why would crashers block you? 😱
are you the real threat
What the... Apparently I've unmuted you mic. And ProjektMelody... Idk when I did that
I was recently bot blocked by almost 2000 accounts, somehow didn't affect my trust rank
oh you did mute me Aria
I saw that in my parser, I was like "wut" lol
that's because you're too powerful
god
The amount of bot blocks it takes to lower your trust rank is your OFFICIAL VRChat Power Level
and it looks like i've got no block on me
every time the vrc server becoems active cuz of an update or vrc being down or banwaves i get reminded that vrc is fun
I log in every day and hang with my bois, so i always have fun~
but i dont want to play the fucking game lol
not rn im making an avatar from scratch for the first time
I'm my list, I've only got an unmuted here. Same for ProjektMelody. Idek
well technically the second time but the first time does not count
Does anyone know why blocks are only showing people blocked in 2019 and 2020
since it was intentionally a low poly meme
It feels like these are getting reset...
i only usually play if i have a friend online.
dunno
I thought blocks do get reset eventually
i used to have a TON more people blocked
yea, i thought that too mic

how do you check block lists again? and with what website?
yeah
this chat just reminded me of the one guy who joined a world blocked everyone and then got vote kicked and wondered why people were so mean to him
lol some people are dumb af
thenks
Just ctrl-f "block"
When you get a friend request, you get unmuted by the person too
Unmutes have to got to be some weird glitch. I only noticed that lately
unblocks are glitched as well sometimes
interesante, none of the people ive hidden or blocked or muted show up
i dont block many people in general but there should be like 3 or 4
everyone on my friends list says they're muted when they're not if I search for them when they're offline
I actually autoblock anyone with an intro audio on their avatar
im such a golden child ive only ever been hidden, blocked, or muted by no more than 11 people
like i immediately respawn to find them and block them
then again 2017-18 stuff is likely gone now but still
That link is just people's actions against you
ah
Change to playermoderations for your own
my capture card won't work real kms hours
Kiss my sister hours
😳

@faint skiff sorry l8 response but ty 2! That also makes sense

so I was dancing in vrchat and someone looked at me press few buttons and changed my avatar into a broken one which crash my game instantly, what should I do
change yer avatar to a default one through the website
oh my god I can really do that?
no i lied you cant 🙂
spread the word
I will
Whats up gamers
idk where to post this but when i try to join a world it stays in 0% and wont go up no matter how much i wait, it was working before, then VRChat crashed and now it wont
!cleancache
You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them
How does one go about finding out if a specific avatar exist somewhere?
I'm still looking for Gandalf.

goodmornin
i got the day off so you can bet your bottom dollar that i will sleep in
Good night
this man be 
Hy guys
i have a question, can you do full body with the rift s?
officially no, but with third party tools yes
From kinect, over psmove to vive tracker (with lighthouses you will have to buy extra) you can use them all in the right setup 
okay 🙂
Well then...
Someone in a world just made everyone in it crash...
Didn't know that was possible. lol
^^^
i got an id of an avatar world i want to go to how do i enter it?
click on a world on the website and replace the id in the url
if an avatar has an special voice command/emote how do i activate it?
Shift + F1 to F8 on while on desktop
ok thank you
why'd you help an avatar troll
Why do you like to criticize everyone so much?!
why do you like to question everything so much ?!
BECAUSE!
because what
exactly you pseudo intellectual stop putting false information
it's the same thing as you criticizing everyone for putting out an opinion you believe is right even if proven wrong
no angery rin

No comment. If I would comment it, I would too much into it and that would be a start of an argument.
that mean you lost, sorry zoomer
Yeah? Zoomer? Ya should know I am 20 and in april, I will be 21, so I am normal adult. Any more arguments?
Ok zoomer
we dont grant you the rank of 90s kid
I just don't think that this naming is normal. I don't see people to refer themselves by generations, at least in Czech republic, so I see it as weird to say someone is zoomer. I don't know which generation it is.
Hello everybody
The rank of 90s kid is powerful
just got hit by zephoria 
Ouch!
love when you get forced into an avatar and crash on startup because of it
Feelsbad
Yep. That is why I am usually only in private instances.
@gloomy remnant What world was that in? It would be interesting to find out, which worlds should we beware in public instances. For now, people warned only about room of the rain.
room of the rain
seems thats the main target
there was also one time he got rid of the whole world
so we were constantly falling
One of my friends got crashed in Shiba Paradise, so that guy is not strictly just targeting Room of the Rain.
It is even on the reddit - do not enter room of the rain in public instances.
Got rid of the whole world? This happened to me multiple times in Room of Summer Solitude, but I first encountered it 1st a long time ago.
Last time when it happened I was in a flying avatar, so it didn't affect me and I could see who did that.
i blocked him when i saw him but he has so many alts
Apparently near 200
If only they just ripped the part out that could change your avatar 🙂
Even if it broke parts of the game
By now im pretty sure no one would mind a hot fix for this bullshit
I really hope VRC ban some of these trolls. And makes it stick.
Safety tip - do not block hackers, because their mods will tell them and they are nastier on people blocking them I heard.
so we just have to wait until devs do something ?
Looks like it.
its been a while since hes started
Document it with a video & output log, leave the instance, report them #moderation-reports
He went through the trouble of documenting it for us lol
Want see how you report 200 alts at the same time.
@gloomy remnant For this to stop? Well yes, they are using an exploit that allows them to do it.
Large swats of users know how it works/how to do it by now
Its fairly well documented how they do it by now
And even more interesting will be, if they swat them all.
But its been a thing for years, just never got abused this bad.
Likely won't.
Well... it's difficult to get rid of someone permanently from just creating new accounts.
Want a realistic Malding reason? The hackers are!
Social vetting gets you into a lot better instances lol
Haii
Hey can anybody recommend some cool Avatars i am currently unable to use my old Favorites until my merge has correctly gone through
Test
@devout berry Well that could happen to anyone you block tbh
Ya never know, some people might just act bad to get blocked so they know who to target
Then again, what more than spamming me with blocks (which I can then report to VRChat Moderation) can they really do
Is there some kind of hotkey to force mouse/keyboard in desktop mode? It thinks I have a controller plugged in and is just spinning wildly
No way to fix that beside unplugging it
Just unplug it
There's none plugged in
Uhhh
Ohh maybe the little thing for the steam controller, though the controller itself is off and in a case far away
maybe type in "controller" in the windows search bar at the bottom. It will show any device that is recognized as a controller
Thats it then
Unplugged it, restarted, still spinning
It looks like it is a leftover virtual stick thing from when I was playing farm simulator
do you have any racing wheels or something plugged in? Those also count
yeah I think virtual sticks also might cause issues. Disable it if its possible
Why would it assume if something is plugged in you'd want to use it?
I mean the esc key at least should work
no idea. Alot of games are like that
Games not properly supporting these kinds of things
pubg always displayed xbox buttons just because I had one plugged in. But I was clearly using mouse and keyboard
They detect something and use it, but without a setting to change anything or the ability for the game to dynamically switch input devices, you'll be stuck with problems
That's an oof
I've played games before that dynamically changed the button prompts depending on whether your mouse / keyboard or controller is being used
and I didnt know the controls that well because I just got it back then so I had to ask my friend what button is what
yea I can't even get into a menu to disable it assuming such a choice exists
But that's stuff that the game has to properly support
We do have a nice system to disable particles twice 
hah tried to disable in device manager so I don't have to reinstall when I need it again... wants me to reboot 😄
wow that actually worked though \o/
Yey
sooo anyone remember how to get the giorno avatar that summons his stand holding a piano
I am requesting the location of the Untitled Goose avatar
Why do people stream on VRChat watching movies you know that agianst TOS (copywrite law)
Youtube is fine but movies ?
Because they dont know the rules and or dont care
Sad story though
just report and move on, odds are if theyre doing it they dont care about their account anyway
That moment when you see a visitor wearing an offensive avatar, and you go and check avatar author and it says that the visitor uploaded it
I actually double checked to make sure I wasn't just making things up, but no, avatar author was a visitor
Snapped a bunch of screenshots and gonna make a report now
Maybe they got degraded from New User?
Considering he was in an offensive avatar, possibly
Note to self: Actually block or hide the person that I intend to report so I can find their profile more easily
Thank god for output logs and those random 4 digits at the end of someone's name if they use a Steam account
that happens sometimes and yeah
They had some really freaky characters that aren't searchable
i was mind blown too when i saw it and blocked them as well
So I ended up grabbing those four numbers at the end of the name and searched via that
I should block or hide someone I intend to report just so I can grab their profile link from the website
Not sure why I didnt do it then but I guess I was too busy taking photos and being confused as to how a visitor can have anything uploaded
understandable
I mean, first time seeing that
uploaded before the system was implemented 
You know... VKet worlds are all uploaded from an account that appears to be New User rank.
but thats even more unlikely than getting deranked
Isn't VKet a bit special in that regard anyways?
vket probably got the special treatment, devs do that to some people
Probs same with the public Tafi models
you just need to have enough clout
But those two things are officially featured ingame
Now that random person?
Probs not
But I doubt he'll be keeping his avatar for long
inb4 nothing happens
we wont know anyway
Usually not
When I reported someone uploading a public booth model and making it lewd, I did know about that because someone told me, from where ever they know
Could verify because the avatar was gone from my favs
There apparently was one recently
Yeah, but we need another one
Should really consider recording stuff but eh, hard drive
just stream 4head
Also if I was gonna do that I'd be doing it first and foremost to keep memories
time to stay away from public/friends+/inv+ worlds again
That's... everything?
Due to streamer got his avatar stolen
ofc streamers get sniped, doesnt mean everywhere is the same
Of course, if you exclusively hang out with your friends you minimize the risk of something like that happening
He did
some hackers can't be blocked
Can join friend+ or inv+ world
without you being their friend
Well, I would know a way how to do that without hacking....
They can get blocked but they will still see and hear you still but you won't

But you do you
I just know that I will not limit myself because of things like that ^^
thats just not true lmao, theyd at least need the world id somehow, and only way to get that is by being friends or having an alt as a friend
youre a part of the problem if you hide in privates is my opinion
or else hackers would be joining dev streams all the time, which they always wanted to
I notice alot of vrchat teams on today
theyre all working tiresly to help your streamer 🙂
Yea, I'm certain the "hackers joining privates" is just because a lot of people accept friend requests from bots that some client out there uses.
^
I mean, I tend to be fairly quick on the
sometimes but usually it's either I already knew from somewhere, seen ingame or at least talked to on Discord or Twitter
Or friends of friends


Can't relate
What
@vocal shard Check VRCTraders in #community-servers-old for commissions
help
im trying to launch the game from oculus launcher and the game only shows on my screen in desktop mode but not in headset
Hey I'm having trouble with having a prop connect to my avatar's hand. I already made the prop the child of the hand so I'm not sure what the problem could be
I finally decided to create a new wishes character body for my elsa... since its now outdated
hi if i want to get a avatar but not able to do it where do i go?
Well there are 2 ways to go about it: You either go in VRChat and search in Avatar Worlds, or make one yourself by using Zbrush, Blender and Unity.

You can also have one commissioned by a modeler as well, for that just search for the discord server 'VRC Traders' in the #community-servers-old channel.
don't sleep in vr
break into your friends house and sleep with them instead
Question - Is there a way to move in VRChat without doing the third person move thing? Cause that lags my game soooo bad
Idk why, it just does
Go to menu and uncheck holoport.
^
It is under settings.
Oh I didn't even think to check settings 🙃 Thanks ^^
Is this in-game settings or like steam settings?
in game
Quick question, someone just crashed the entire lobby we were in, but sadly I didn't see who it was, will the crash report reveal who did it should I report it?
Or will it go nowhere without a name?
In the logs, there is a list of all users that were in the room, but you have no way to tell who was the crasher. + moderation wants picture/video proof.
The crashing is undetectable, because their modified client will order the api as if you changed the avatar yourself. If you look there, you will clearly see, that "you" activated an avatar pedestral.
@jovial pulsar
Ahh, well hopefully someone got him then :x
If it's a force avatar change it will also show who did it
Good morning everyone!!!
@grim canopy
Good morning to you too
Good morning
Does anyone know the best location to use for a VPN to get a fast connection to the VRC servers? Is AWS hosting?
From what I read in many convos, yeah - it should be AWS.
Gives me a good idea of where the data centers are. Now I just need to remember where most of AWS was hosted.
Could have done that a long time ago, though now it's too late. Amazon was making a HUGE security mistake I tried telling them, "Um, you aren't supposed to do this . . ." I wasn't listened to.
@sterile ingot A vpn with a location close to you or between you and the US AWS servers
If your like in the eu you dont want it to go to Austrailia and then US back to straya to you
I was trying to figure out the closest location to the AWS servers. Amazon is very tight lipped about where there data centers are located. Fortunately I used to work for them as a Data Center Technician.
Unless its in the exact same room and all it wont really change stuff
It makes a difference if I am say connected to Texas vs anywhere on the West Coast.
I most definitely have noticed a performance difference depending on where I am connected. I am just trying to figure out which was fastest.
Should be east coast
"Amazon was making a HUGE security mistake I tried telling them" datacentre locations aren't closely guarded secrets, especially when their location is important to many/most clients.
Then why did I have to sign an NDA?
Maybe to business clients they get to know. In general though it was a kept secret where they were located. As I mentioned before, I used to work for them.
Awful place to work.
Most places that work with any type of data or security worthy things make you sign a NDA
Even if you just clean the place and everyone in town knows its there
Big odds they are more worried about you telling some bad peeps on how to get inside the building then where it exactly is because if they can they cna find that out anyway
I was specifically told not to tell people where the data centers were. I dunno if it could be any more explicit.
Seriously, are you guys arguing against my professional experience? Have you worked for Amazon and know something I don't know or something?
For amazone? Nah, For other places where im not allowed to talk about where they are because its easier to write that in a contract? Yea

Okay, well you will have to take my word on it then, won't you?
Amazon is unlike most other data centers with perhaps exceptions to the other members of the big three (Microsoft and Google).
Except those other two run better hardware . . .
You Rang The Bell? 🧟♂️
Dumb question. I sometimes see avatars mess with props for their characters. I've seen Derp Chan with tide pods, I've seen other characters handle guns or swords. How do they do that?
Some of the public avatars I have found have props, though I don't know if I can actually interact with them.
they are added to your avatar and then activated via an animation (mostly the gestures)
I'll have to check animations for those characters. Thank you.
@queen hare Random question, but doesn't the turret in the Maid with Science world have a remote somewhere? Couldn't find it when I was exploring on my own D:
It just menacingly looked at me
Actually easier in VR since you can hear behind you
But I use the same headphones as I do in desktop mode

I accidentally updated it with a previous version. So no remote for now.
I also moved, so my PC with the later version is far away lol
It isn't hard to remake, but I have a bunch of stuff to do
It's fine
I was just a bit confused because I remember the remote from the Community Meetup and couldn't find it when I was looking for it, thinking I was just being stupid
Being able to hear things behind you is awesome. My Logitec G933 just can't compare to the audio on my Index. There's a reason people rave over those . . . speakers.
I have a Vive so no built in audio, but my current headphones do a pretty good job
But in desktop mode, it is a lot easier (imo) to turn quickly and avoid the traps in the Maid maze
Hello everyone I hope everyones day is going wonderful if not then next time It will probably be better
gonna get a shower and then get ready for meetups...
hi
"We will have more information on upcoming Valve Index availability soon."
Good news boyos
Any advice for inspiring myself to make avatars / worlds again? So far what seems to help is to try new things, but i'm not getting that "push over the edge" to actually make anything.
It seems creation is purely sensorial for me. If I don't feel good when making something, I just stop making it.
that's basically all the poor avatars I've deleted halfway through completion
maybe try something challenging
I don't really know what that'd be at your skill level but
Signed distance fields trained with a generative adversarial network to raymarch my actual face from my webcam, got it.
//i wish//
I think my issue is i'm at the point where the next big step will take a lot more effort. I'm stepping into the realm of that shit isnt common and that is intimidating.
@small wing What type of inspiration you seek? Challenge?
Creative expression.
I want to get back into making avatars with musical experiences, but also some how make them more interactive.
hi guys
Don't know if it will help here, but when someone says to me to get avatar inspiration, I think of going to vket archived worlds and look what Japanese modelers done.
I have looked into Vket. Its hard to get inspired from others works though without feeling like its unoriginal.
I think I make too many excuses. Which isn't helping me at all.
I need to get out of this mindset I feel.
I also really like the vket worlds themselves. Now imagine, if VRChat team asked Japanese community to make the tutorial map, the hub and the UI + loadings. That could be really nice!
@small wing take all of the inspiration man
Hello
does anybody know how to switch to custom avatars thru the website
@small wing Honestly, VKet as far as models go is nothing special. They're nice models, but it's really just a bunch of anime models and some interesting toon shaders. It's cool and all as a concept, but I doubt much would help you there unless you're making things from scratch and bring something that lets you see topology
Like the coolest Booth stuff I can see geared towards creators is things like Snori's arms/legs and other creators props.
You'd waste your time going through the VKet worlds when you could just go to Booth, sort by Popular, and scroll through basically the same stuff https://booth.pm/en/browse/3D Models
while weeding out the "lower quality" work
I'd say it is about the thing, if you want it to be a VR experience or just browse web. VKET is for people who want VR shopping experience.
Well he's looking for avatar creation inspiration not a VR shopping experience so
Also you can't cram too much stuff in vket or it will end up unusable from performance standpoint, so for browsing, web is better.
if anything, just look through concept art on artstation or even pinterest
thats what a lot of people do for inspiration
How expensive do commissioned avatars get?
sky's the limit
all depends on what it is, the quality, what it's for, etc.
and who's making it
One of my from scratch avatars cost me $300
what rights came with that avatar?
That was also without dynamic bones, particles, eye tracking, visemes (he's wearing a mask, so he didn't need them).
I was offered $80 for model converted from FFXIV
Rights? Oh, it's my own OC, I just paid someone to make it into an avatar. c:
So, end of the day, the design is mine and not allowed to be used by anyone else unless I choose to do so.
idk if it still is but converting stuff from FFXIV used to be a pain in the ass
A lot of artists don't care, but with bigger projects you typically need commercial rights even if you own the character design
So we just convert iconic characters? That's how I get Gandalf?
I'm sure he's been in a game.
It'll look like trash but sure
Hrmmm
he hasn't been in any modern games so its all old models
i mean there's the mobile game
probably his best model lol
Luckily, I'm keeping it away from the whole copyright waters
That's a treacherous sea I don't wish to drown in.
If it's from scratch as well as the design, it really shouldn't matter anyway
Ah, good. ^^
I wish I could draw better. I have no time to practice it when I have a whole bunch of other things I should be putting more time into.
Just stamp © on the ass forehead
lol
Whoa, we leave my boy's booty meat alone, Aria
It's why you commission artists
I've got one big comm for an outfit/character design and I'll probalby get another for a model in the future
Then I'll have an outfit made for my current one once the guy I wanna commission is caught up on his stuff
Make it glow with the emissions of a thousand suns so everyone knows it's yours
I don't use assets that I don't have permission to use on any of my main models so I don't need to worry about any trouble
Or just use incompatible shaders and you get the same effect, lol
It's an edited Booth model which I purchased, and then even my T-Shirt design I asked the artist permission to use because they drew it for a single release for an artist i listen to
but i personally contacted them to be sure they were cool with it
Mm, I really want to consider doing that for my current favourite model. It's got the face of a Filn model, but the body of a LM model, so I just want it recreated without any of those assets involved, y'know?
Yeah, stuf ffrom scratch is just pricey and not many people can do good anime faces
People able to do bodies are easy to find, faces is where it gets tricks.
Especially if I plan on using it for streaming... Right, yeah, that's the hardest to come by. :(
Well with streaming you should be fine in most cases anyway
Hype to see VKet 2020 xD
Like I said, it isn't an issue until it really becomes commercial.
And once you're at the point where it could become a brand issue ,youve likely got enough money to get something made from scratch
I'm around a lot of people who try to have something unique to them, or as unique as possible given the tools and budget they have.
Ah, I see.
Bigger streamers will have something made from scratch like Cece or Ariyana , or something made from licensed parts like Zentreya if you know any of them
and some people just like to have a unique identity
I want to be that latter half. Something that people can associate with my "brand", so to speak
that's not to say you can't have a unique identity with a kitbash
I want a unique identity.
For that, I believe a design is more important than a model
Zentreya's design is overall the same despite all the modle changes she's gone through
That's a good example. If you've got the time, look through old Zentreya vids vs new ones. Cece's the same way, he kept his overall dragon girl design throughout his changes into a model from scratch
I'll give that a look-see now. ^^
they keep the overall same design, just refining it gradually over time
which is entirely possible via just kitbashing and texture editing, it's what a lot of people I know have done. the model doesn't have to be perfect all at once, you can tweak things here and there to see what you like as long as you keep the same general "look" that people associate with you. it's why my design is keeping my bright pastel and gradient color schemes despite it being a total different look
hmm
Mm, I'm wanting to make a prince/royalty design for mine and I need to learn how to change/add outfits and such. It's really barebones now, but I've got the design downpat in my head. I want to see if I can do it or either have outside help.
THere's always the option to commission. those who cant do pay others to do
also look to others' art and designs for inspiration if you can, always a good idea
I think that's just what I'll have to do after I've filed my taxes. Will finally have breathing room to ask then. c:
i literally sent the artist all hte references i needed and then an "inspiration" folder in order for her to know what kind of look im trying to portray
that and there's always the option of paying artists to do the design for you as well
don't be afraid to use existing characters for references as long as youre not copying one for one too, this is an example of the images in my "inspiration" folder https://puu.sh/Fb3S2/0b73e5f2ae.png
Ooh, I see. And that's how your current design came to be?
My tip would be making a folder, separate it into sub folders like "shirt, shoes, accessories, pants, hair, etc" and just add stuff that matches your style to each of them over time, then slowly parse out the things you want to narrow it down to
Yeah, for example my Hair folder has images of Balalaika from Black Lagoon for the back hair but different referefences for the front and bangs, then a color example using my existing avatar. My clothing one has pics of Kittan's jacket from Gurren Lagann as well as KDA Kaisa from League of Legends.
then for "parts" I've got my current model's ears, the eyes/eye makeup from bayonetta, and af ew eye examples i found on google images
I think I'll get started on gathering references and sorting them tonight, then. So much inspiration is floating around and I don't want to let this slip away. Again, thank you so much, Mic. You're a huge help.
No problem, just be sure to keep the folder organized. Sometimes inspiration comes, but then you're like "Ehhh I don't really like this" so you can jsut toss some ideas out altogether
Right. ^^
Anyone know how to set a vrchat world to public?
yeah open the world menu and make new instance, then jsut set it to public
Look up "community labs" documentation on the website I think that explains it
also are anyone one having problems with joining friend only worlds?
Not me, no. Your friends list might not have refreshed yet- if that's the case try going to a different world and checking your friends list again.
i keep getting kicked by the world and loaded into the default model
Oh, do you think someone with a client might have changed your avatar? If so, it might be doing weird things to your game
not sure
Anyway, weird favor to ask but can someone crash me in-game? I'm trying to set up buffer recording in case I get crashed, but I've heard getting crashed can crash your recording software as well. I'd like to test this out, would anyone be willing to help me?
@rigid crescent Got a long way to go before I can get it
so just got a play a lot I guess
How many hours do you need for user
I think it depends on what you're doing in game- if you're going to different worlds and friending people I think it goes faster
I’m starting to upload content and stuff too, would that help?
I'd assume so, yeah. I don't know the specifics of the system tbh, just that you don't have to wait as long to rank up if you're active
Mhm
Oh right, it's at User you get World permissions i think
No it's user
Though having it at trusted or known would cut down on the bulk of worlds
Or reuploaded box's 
Ok
I'm so fascinated that I still gotta wear glasses in VR... I mean...What I am looking at isn't ACTUALLY 5 feet away, it's right infront of my face, but it's still blurry as if it were 5 feet away
1-2m focal points being most common
3.25-6.5ft for the freedom units
Just get one of the lens inserts. I still need to get one myself actually...
Alguém
Thats the most selfish and inconsiderate line I heard in a while wow
You seem to be fun to be around
Don't have the hub as your home world?
ok?
How many people do you think have bad memories associated with other holidays? that's just a selfish request dude.
Yep
eta?
12 minutes afaik
💤 man i hate getting on this early
im just gonna bite the bullet and get the new straps, tired of my shit dying so quick
I ordered them
they sent me 20 bucks compensation after they noticed ive been waiting since 2+ months
The tracks traps are great.
i wanted to wait til i had some more money but i have enough now
RIP
F
ive spent too much money this month and im sure i'll regret it soon enough 🙂
Well ill be on before they take the group pic
30 mins
Damn
i usually dont egt on for another hour or so, but maybe i'll hop in in halfbody
i jsut hate my fbt dying early
the e vent or the pic
Event
smh bagel still having issues, damn
lul
Where is the event?
Update: Event started
How do I watch?
no streamin allowed
I don't stream
im saying theres no way to watch cause no stream
I thought it was in VR Chat
Avatars are related to peoples accounts and shared by their choice in worlds they make, not specifically made to be publicly searched.
just toured the museum and its amazing.
🗿 I’m alone check 🗿
I noticed that when friends with vr use my avatars, they have more custom animations than me on desktop, is there a way to use them, I tried left shift and right shift.
who have steam?
my vrchat is stuck at 0% whenever loading into worlds???
I'm on steam
Unless possibly the animations require two hand gestures at the same time
You can use two hand gestures on desktop too, left shift is left hand, right is right
@meager solstice @indigo fern I tried all f-keys with both left, right, and both pressed.
You sure the avatar you're using does anything?
If you see your hands changing that means the gestures at least work
go infront of a mirror to see your hands btw
because its hard to see your hands in desktop mode
They do, i have a cloned versioned of it.
And i know that some of the animations work.
is there a general set time before u canupload custom avatars? Had my steam account for a couple years but just merged it earlier today after following a guide on how to set up unity and the SDK for it, and its telling me I'm not allowed, was looking through the docs but don't see any indication
steam VRC that is
You have to play vr chat untill you rank from visitor to new user
yeah was asking how long that normally takes since I've been on it for a couple years now
It took me about 1 or 2 weeks of playing daily
ah so I should send a ticket?
What you mean by ticket?
email to support
Its normal that your not allowed to make avatars, you just need to play vr chat untill it tells you your allowed to.
what rank are you in vrc?
New user
but I'm currently unable to upload avatars still
I dunno
unless that only starts once u make a VRC account thats NON steam and link it
that's what I'm trying to confirm
You need a vrc account to log in to upload. Steam accounts wont work in unity. So you can link a vrc account and then use that to log in
I did say that @broken plover guessing my msgs aren't showing, or somethings up w/ discord then, I'll try later
thats weird. Send in a support ticket then
Hey gamers
does anyone know how i can fix it that when i'm in vr and sit in a chair that my camera doesn't go higher or deeper when the chair turns sideways?
V-Tubers sleeping in VRChat :O
@pseudo basalt @broken plover @boreal kelp speaking of sleeping

Sorry, no translations yet. It's pretty easy to understand though. They... did not sleep very well.
amateurd
Lol. I may have misunderstood but I don't remember them saying they did anything extra to alleviate discomfort.
I like how they didn't just launch a unity VR instance (which they do for a lot other random videos), but actually chose to sleep in vrchat.
If you're on windows 10 and it's not working, you might be missing some codecs or something
Try installing a codec pack
What? Codecs are all hardware decoding based these days.
Try checking vrchat logs right after attempting to load a video
you'll not need a codec pack on windows 10, if it's not working something else is messed up.
Unless you have a W10N version without the media featues or you messed them up somehow.
I find the video players require hitting the rewind button before they work
!outputlog
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt
Try a video player, record the time, then check there once you're done playing
I think it's missing one or two lines, just send further stuff to #user-support-old when you're out of vr.
use pastebin or similar if you wanna post bigger chunks of log 
You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them
Is anything actually being done about this issue - https://i.imgur.com/Q9LDlSR.jpg ? I mean, other than the token "Reset avatar" button on the website.
I think you know the answer
🙄
SOB! And even does flex on YT! Why the hell is that user not banned?!
Gee almost like making alt accounts is easy
report and use that video as evidence
also ip ban that guy so he would need a vpn if he wants to play again
@faint skiff Please dont link to people showing off clients or similar
It's literally a video of they themselves crashing an entire room
Sadly there is no way to stop them from making an alt.
@umbral reef Their steam account shows nearly 1800 hours, so they're even using Steam to do it
@faint skiff Using steam aint using a steam account...
So not sure why that changes anything
"Please don't link to proof, people may get the impression that the game is rife with "hackers" and what they may be able to do to you..."
Steam just logs how long the software downloaded with it ran.
Well, there is one way but even if they've already begun there's no way they'd say it until they've succeeded






