#vrchat-general-2
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are we doing tattoos
Thats my joke aaaa
This is not a joke 

Morning Al
has tupper played all touhou games
Boop
mainline, zun decimals or tasofro too
hiiii
so uh,
how long does it take +/- to get ''approved'' on vr chat
No set time
Can range from 5 hours to 50 hours
Play the game. Get approved. \o/
Any way to track when the availability to upload to Community Labs is? I forgot the date I first published a world and the message telling me I can only upload once a week doesn't even tell me how long to wait. 🤔
Hello
does anyone have the baby yoda avatar? i want to create an army of baby yodas but i dont have the avatar
I want baby yoda avatar!
I want baby deathmaul avatars
I seen a baby Yoda avatar
why does everyone want a baby yoda avatar? Ik hes cute but come on... be original. Use your own avatar...
i have no idea of how to make an avatar\
and i need to create my cult/army of babies
Any1 know how to fix vr chat mic teamspeak working vr chat not
@broken plover the idea of “being original” is kinda a dumb thought process considering most models aren’t original in any sense. So even if u upload a model it can still be considered not original
Original in the sense of "not using the exact same avatar that everyone else wants to use right now"
I mean in terms of that I think baby yoda would be the least of the worries
Considering wolf boys and e-girl models
scoffs in handmade
anyone know where i can get the baby yoda avatar
I think that's the plight of meme avatars. Everyone wants to be in the in-crowd for that moment that's interested in it.
Oh god, upgrading to 2018 and it's recrunching EVERY texture in the entire project. There's like 700,000 files in the project, many are textures. This may take a while.
Yikes, you might wanna go get some food in the meantime.
Hm... I should probably switch to 2018 soon but Im too lazy
That's a big project
Thankfully my first world was small, so there's not much to upgrade.
I know some people say they have one avatar per project and that seems pretty dumb, but a project THAT big is also not a good idea
Avatars on the other hand...
@pseudo basalt It's a world rather than avatars. I can't imagine how an avatar project would end up that large, lol.
And yeah, it's around 20GB in size.
Makes sense
On the other hand it recrunches them all in one go
So you can leave it alone while it does it's thing, unlike uploading avatars
Yeah. Shame you can't batch that. Maybe you can macro it? lol
my project is only ~5GB
A sense of scale may help. Each of the three bottom bits are 0.5km2 so it's quite large - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628102741037809666/652974763991498752/unknown.png
spaceship map is really cool
anyone know where i can get the baby yoda avatar
🅱️aby 🅱️oda 🅱️vatar
I like the fact that I have it and refuse to share with the people coming here for it lol
n🇴
i saw it in a funny video i want to be funny it will be so funny i will finally be cool and people will notice me
(probably)
Don't detest something you don't understand
The other one had his carrier though, the people asking don't know how to upload models lol
And having 1000 people upload 1000 copies of an avatar is rather wasteful
well i cant create an account or log on so that sucks
yodagamer's chill hangout and sleep lag free box with avatars
space skybox and a sad chillhop loop
covered all the bases
don't forget the free movies
Movies though
why did I read bases as bees
Gotta have....at least a few hundred.
Reminds me of the latest update to the Freddy Mercury avatar where he takes MDMA and gets attacked by bees.
Watching movies in an uncomfortable headset 
Why cant i log in?
On the website its literally like "this username is taken"
then change the name you want
no the website is bugged
it literally says its taken. Thats why you cant use that name
every single combo of letters or numbers you try is taken
i tried "5478fhsjshuji" and it didnt work
for me it works
i tried over 13 different combos of letter spam, on two different browsers
also had a friend of mine try to do it as well, same result
Sit through all the hobbit/Lotr movies in VR in one sitting to get isekaid

Does that mean I get a girlfriend that will unconditionally love me
Lies, they don't exist
And a few more of her friends that are all different stereotypes
Only if you constantly offer them popcorn.
Or buy one for her and not for yourself to show how much you care.
And then halfway through the movie you cry about it.
Is one of them a boy that you find out in a later episode
no you dont offer her you feed her
No need, dinner after the movie.
dinner while watching the movie
Depends on the cinema.
I thought we're talking about vr
or is it a vrdinner with vrfood
in a vrcinema and hangout map
Think of this all in VR.
youre having a virtual dinner while watching a virtual movie
but how can I be a cute anime girl then
And at the end of the whole shebang, you lean into her slowly towards her face and whisper "None of this was real"
and you open your menu and click go home
XD
You look at her and she clicks at you and asks you for the way and you wake up in cold sweat
That would be a real nightmare.
and then in the loading screen you look at your chat, laugh and read all the donations and stuff
and then days later you see that clip in a vrchat funny moments clip compilation
"Am I dreaming? Someone clip this!"
Just like the simulations
Okay, this is a "VRChat funny moments" moment
Anyone have an idea of why switching ingame to the steam overlay, and going back into the game, causes the game to lag or perform worse in vr mode? 
Bring it up and close it again.
That dsnt fix it for me :/
If that's the case then try restarting VRC.
Yeah.. Restarting VRC fixes it, but its annoying lol thats why i ask
if i want to look at discord or something inside vr, everytime i want to check something this bug will show up again
Hmm, normally it doesn't fix it. You're lucky then, but the other thing you can try is changing the supersampling amount in Advanced OpenVR Settings.
If you drop it below 100 then back up, that sometimes fixes it.
It's a case to case basis, but also a known issue.
But yeah I get it a lot and it's quite annoying.
Hmm so its not a random issue i got then, pretty much everyone have the same issue? lol
Using OVRToolkit instead can help avoid the issue.
For me I bring up the Oculus menu once and it's sorted.
Why would you be using SteamVR on Oculus anyway?
is it known what causes it tho? I ddnt have this issue some time agoo
i think it start with recent steamvr updates
Oof you wanna know why?
@chrome badger Not sure. I do a lot of work in Unity while still in VR so I tend to trigger it then.
Oculus VRChat has an audio / visual desync.
I dont have oculus tho 🤔
When I talk it takes a second for it to show visually, this doesn't happen when using Steam VRChat.
Weird
@modern sand 
@chrome badger But yeah, I either avoid doing to desktop view, or use OVRT to do it.
Hmm.. So pretty much, tl;dr, almost everyone have the issue. Only "fixes" is changing some options like the scaling or messing arround "hoping" that it goes away, or not using the overlay at all xD
Yeah. Dropping scaling down fixes it, but you still get stuck at a lower rate. It's almost like it's rendering two copies or something and now it's struggling.
Do you know by chance if maybe using this vr overlays things most streamers use, allow you to see stuff without having this bug? Like maybe bringing discord on your hand
since ur not bringing the steam overlay
🤔
Hello
thats ovrtoolkit
Does that allow u to see the screens and interact with them, without having to open the steamvr overlay, and hopefully not bringing this bug? 🤔
Yes it brings up a window that you can put on your hand and you can use your other controller to click stuff on it. You can also bring up a keyboard to type stuff
🤔 hmm ill give that a try
hey wait a minute did the vrc team got a little bit bigger, there are a few names there i don't recognize
either that or they are online for the first time in a decade

The VRC Team uses another program for communication usually. So maybe just some finally using discord as well? 
do they use desktop chat? 
Probably Slack or Teams, god help them if they're also stuck on Teams.
"It's like Skype, but shit"
get it? because vr chat, and desktop chat
They're gathering up for what I think is preparation for 2018.
They might be having a discussion about it.
It may also be kareoke night...
or both

So many new emotes
🙂

I asked for permission from the creator to convert some of his art to emojis.
Nice

Oculus client had a lot of issues that the SteamVR client didn't, last I remember. The convenience wasn't worth the inconvenience.
I think I couldn't have put it better myself.
The only plus I get out of the oculus app is the ability to pin my apps as an overlay and placing and resizing however I wish.
Oh and the oculus wrist watch, that's pretty sick.
Hmm, people told me they got much worse FPS using Oculus and Steam stacked. Maybe they were changing the SS from 100.
Im using oculus client since day one
And "a lot of issues" would be new to me.
It had a little bit of high calibration issues at the start, where you would need to make sure to be in the right position during startup as it'll keep that (which is solved)
Else works perfectly.
The client had delayed updates for a bit in the beginning and the IK was literally different in Oculus than Steam for one very important thing. Certain things that were patched months prior were in the Oculus client when I used it too. So I didn't use Oculus for very long at all. Maybe it's all sorted now, but there were some very different things going on in Oculus for whatever reason and I would've rather just kept using SteamVR.
No, I mean VRC updated it behind SteamVR by quiet a bit.
The issue it STILL has is the delay between audio and visemes.
It was like a version behind all the time or something.
And it's quite noticeable.
It was bad.
i've been using it since day one of native release and didnt remember any delays 

xD
Oh lol xD
When an update was announced i've closed the game and could directly update it in home.
Oh it was there you can even ask ruuubick about it, I streamed it to him and he saw it live.
Only the initial release was a bit delayed.
but hey, my memory aint the greatest for not that important informations 
lol pfft
But aside form that, hawwo paulie ❤️
The biggest thing was the IK for me.
taking forever to log in. social menue not updating with pictures of and locations of friends. worlds refusing to load.
I was in vrchat and I pressed every button now it’s in full screen instead of windowed help
alt+enter toggles fullscreen and windowed.
Ty
np
damn. cant join any of my friends or anywhere in the worlds list. this game is pretty fucking broken for me rn. fix your shit vrchat!
Hi I'm looking for avatar creator (Paid). Please DM me your rate. Thank you so much
you propably want to take a look at the VRCTraders Discord
you can find a link in #community-servers-old
Thanks FPaul, much appreciated.
o/ Hi everyone
Hello all mighty top 500 player
o/
How are we doing today good sir/madam/something inbetween.
Yay, green name 😄 ( Not showing green for some reason <InsertSadFaceHere> )
My green name means I am a god in this server
top 500 vrchat player :o
then I am a god aswell

I'm a god in my own right
guys i need help
i keep publishing my characters and they wont appear on vrchat
like, they wont appear in my avatars
What unity version are you using
wait, do i have to get that specific version?
You need Unity 2017.4.28f1 right now else it will not show
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/setting-up-the-sdk
BIG OOF
SDK warns you before you even begin to publish that you're using the wrong version. 🤔
where can i ask about issue with recording/streaming vrchat? i have left side of my screen blurred and it cuts models in half but i dont see this in my headset
i asked in #user-support-old but idk
where do we type about unity on here for help
usually in #avatars-2-general or #3d-modeling
The issue im having is im trying to upload an avatar but as soon as I lock into full body it goes straight into the floor. I dont get whats going on
Oh ok thank you so much
👌
check one of the meme worlds
can you send me the name of one?
rum hams
if you search for meme worlds, you should come across the green frog world, maybe that one has it
isnt that a motion file
an mmd animation basically
cats plugin installs mmd tools for blender, only 2.79 version tho, i think
if you import an mmd model through mmd tools and not through cats, youd be able to import an vmd onto it
@ancient hedge
Hi
@inner cape No, cats comes with mmd_tools on 2.79 to 2.81 😁
:v
anyone wonna play Big Brother Hideout V2 with me?
what's that
Why do e-boy wolfboys always swipe their arms
wha
Nvm
I think my internet and computer both crapped out over some guy's avatar
I literally can't use my internet now
I hate that I have an e-boy wolf avatar but it's difficult to find good male avatars that aren't complete trash
tru dat
someone let me clone one, but it has like 50 dynbones on it and is rated Very Poor, so I don't use it
Just gotta do it yourself, find a decent model, fire up blender & unity and have at it.
That's what I'm doing, actually
just make an avatar with a muscley body and a piece of bread for the head
except i'm using fusion 360 to create the model, and blender for all the rigging and texture stuff
since I learned f360 to make things on my printer, might as well use those skills in making cool thing in VRC
is there a way to report false report? we think my friend got hanker to report him and he laged before spam reported him. hes new to vrchat and hes never done anything worng so this is random.
hes just a user and only played for week.
see #moderation-reports and follow what it says there
roight
Report the report, is that your trap card I presume?
Is there any vrchat memes before knuckles?
i feel custom avatar is even older than that
possibly just didn't become "big" until after knuckles but it existed before it
Custom avatar was since the beginning of time
But it to got popular with the YouTube influx
Yeah the whole custom avatar thing comes from when custom avatars were new/hard to do. Youd have a swarm of nikes go to people with a custom avatar asking how they did it
Def before knuckles
I know it happend to a guy that had doom avatars in the old old hub, nikeis just forming a circle around him and asking how he did this, or that. Dunno if they were even meming at that point tbh, since they were legit questions on rapid fire 
that time I looked for any anime 3D models and just uploaded them to have atleast something different (neptunia avatar if anyone wants to know)
Ah, I remember unedited neptuia models were pretty popular back in the day
and then I found out how to swap the textures in unity and recolored it (badly)
The ultimate oc weapon, hue and saturation in photoshop!
Changing diffuse/albedo in unity itself 
thats what I did before swapping the texture xD
I made a gumi high contrast black and white and it was the most original thing ever
Stood out for the longest time
Black and white vs rainbow avatars
Whou would win? who's next? You decide!
Deep like my knife collection and cool like my pet raven
But pet ravens are cool 
Having a pet raven is pretty cool ngl
Well ravens are expensive so a discount crow works well enough
Cheap boy
You're not a crow or raven 😛
Welp, guess I have a pet you than
But she has a yellow beak? I thought she was a goose or some sort of duck, lol.
I get non stop petting from the meetups xD
She's a special kind of crow, surely you've noticed that by now env.

Ah yes, the rarely seen Oman Thiccrow.
Nah, it's makeup
Where are you from
Oman


Oh man
Yeah I get that alot.
You're right, these are dangerous times.
cree-
What do we think? Acceptably believable lighting for a tavern? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629302253768933376/653957689029820427/unknown.png
if youll add tables and a light on each table, sure Kappa
Yeah, floorplan is still up for debate.
or, if youre iffy about the amounts of light sources, you can borrow an idea from skyrim and slap a huge fireplace in the middle
Lights are fine, everything's baked. The fireplace will be ramped up slightly too.
(you can see it in the right of the image)
ow yee
Looks very tavern-y
is there going to be a holiday list for maps? and how to we get our map submitted ?
na community: here's a 101st toon shader i made
japanese community: post above
That looks way too good aaaaaaa
I should just rehash my club map meme for toon shaders lol
The one that links the rings is my favorite since it supposedly works between players
It's why it allows a one time distribution to a partner of your choice.
i wanna buy those shaders...
That miso soup shader
Is that a one day only event?
That tavern looks epic
Thanks. Still early days. I keep bouncing between the cavern, forest, sea cove and the tavern whenever ideas come to me.
@languid igloo Boop, is your map public yet?
Probably the best tavern I've seen in-game. The rest are really low quality texture-wise
@covert blade yeah
Those shaders look nice
I'm still a long ways out on any shader business, but it's cool that there are expos for stuff like that
Mic_Sounders in VRChat, feel free to add me.
That's a lie 👀
(Quote from your Twitter)
lul
@rigid crescent Working on adding passive immersion at the moment though, for example properly attenuating and altering the music coming from inside when you're outside, so it sounds like it's actually coming from inside, etc (bonus look at the outside) - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628102741037809666/652978033065721858/2019-12-07_19-20-18.mp4
(has too much of a weird "in your own head" sound at the moment though)
Definitely a prime target for RP, I showed some friends who do that and they thought it looked cool
I have around 200 audio sources in the world now and I'm still adding more (everything is area triggered so there's no issues with hitting the Unity audio concurrency limits). I find environmental sound design is something many people skip over but it's really important to actually being immersed.
Yeah there's a Japanese event map I went to that plays nice nature sounds outside then when you go inside it's some traditional sounding music
Unity is lacking a lot of things you'd take for granted though, sound always has to come from a point, it can't come from an area, so you end up having to use dozens of sounds spread out over an area to simulate it instead (e.g. the waves on the beach here), there's wave/background water ambience generators all around the coast, like 25 or so so that you actually hear the waves from everywhere you'd expect.
One thing I can't get working though is global modified reverb that affects everyone, including players voices. I can get a single dummy instance running, but not get it working in such a way that it can be changed on the fly (e.g. slightly echo'y for the cave, distance reverb for the coastal mountains, etc). Hopefully I'll solve the enigma one day.
Murder 3 has certain parts of the map with echo while it's normal everywhere else
Dunno if that's the same thing that you want but if so, Jar definitely knows how to do that
Sounds like it, I may poke him if he's not super busy.
Her
At least from that single time I've seen Jar in a public lobby, they sounded like a gal to me
Sound always has to come from a point
Oh
That's oof
:v
@modern sand 
That Tavern map is looking cool 👍
@faint skiff Hmm so wait, making a "Sound area" would then require you to make a sound source that can reach very far and have triggers to turn it on / off?
Instead of having a simple box that you draw that plays audio.ogg when you're in it and doesn't when you're not?
Correct
And that from a proper game engine
Well there's 2D sound but that's 2D sound lol
I see
That and in vrc we can't do any scripting so we have to work with the most default of the default components
Unfortunately it's obvious when it's 2d as it doesn't rotate with your head.
Or rather it does
If anything, IRL all sounds come from a point you just can't have an audio source for each cricket in the woods
Works for general ambience but in your case that clutter of 3D sound makes it more believable as you would expect the sounds of the ocean to come from the direction of the ocean
Arma 3 does that
A lot of the ambience noise is actually 3D and comes from a certain random direction
But yeah @faint skiff really looking forward to that stuff. An actual soundscape of a lot of 3D sounds playing to create the ambience is a lot nicer than just ambience.ogg playing in a loop
isnt 3d audio resource intensive? how do you manage it?
Nah, adding effects is though.
anyone wanna do vrchat
6872 people do
I spent an entire afternoon changing every single audio element to be trigger proximity based Sasha, lol. Bit tedious.
Oooh @faint skiff I need to show you something!
Mmm?
Yo
As long as the triggers arnt on the default layer it's all good
No, they have to be on something like the mirrorreflection layer to work (and not interfere with everything else).
Exactly. There's so many worlds with default layer triggers and it's breaking my grounder components. It's so sad
what's the best world in vrchat
That's subjective. Different people like different things
well obviously
Best world is obvious, sleep/chill world #73
i don't get why people join those
To sleep and chill 
To sleep/chill lol
like i keep hearing people flex for waking up shit tons of people
If I want to chat I'm not gonna head to some adventure map
Depends, I don't think light sleepers should go there
Well sleeping in VR isn't a good idea regardless of the world
That too lmao
tru
im a deep sleeper, only thing thats woken me up beforr that hasn't been persistent was a loud ass lightning strike
someome tried ear raping me with rap music and i woke up peacefully in Rest and Sleep #8362 or whatever
I like chill worlds because they are usually relaxing and low impact. Doesn't mean I want thousands of em
Stronk even when unconscious 💪
like after a few min
I've slept in void clubs a couple times, just layed there while no one was talking to me and 😪
Why are you guys so tired
one time i caught solar sleeping in the streets
now thats a frustrating question
yall some insomniacs
Not tired, but if I lay down with my eyes closed i can sleep anywhere
fuck if i know
And yeah lol people have taken too many pics of me sleeping to be comfortable
i slept once in the black cat and the great pug once~
I'm not passing out or anything 
I guess it's just the problem with getting too comfortable
that and asmr
aight anybody here actually tried sleeping in a vr public room made for sleeping
me
yes
Nothing puts me to sleep faster than the soft sound of a chainsaw in my ear 👌
y though
So where are the active strip clubs in vr chat?
when I'm tired and I put on a vrheadset I wake up again... thats annoying. I just cant get tired with a vr headset on
plus i can get right back to playing vrc as soon as i wake up

isn't it really uncomfortable waking up after having a vr headset on 4 a long ass time?
Is this how you guys get those thicc hours on steam?
no

for diff people
i can actually sleep with vr headset on just fine and wake up just fine
I need a lap dance
its unberable onlu whrn i wake up, and only if i sleep with my glasses off
the big comfort killer is headphones. Sleep on a travel pillow or wedged between two pillows so you dont compress your ear. dont sleep on your elbow as a replacement.
also dont sleep in fromt of anything bright for your screen, and be prepared for that sweet, sweet electric bill
Yeah the headphones are what keep me from passing out probably. can't really get comfortable without being on my side
ive been stopping recently because im too young to pay the electric bill myself and my powersupply is not the most efficient
also, school.
damn
Again I still think it's best to just turn the stuff off since it's a massive waste. Or maybe have a program that shuts your computer off automatically at some point if you know you'll fall asleep
yeah like have it on a timer
@desert stratus understandable
and then youll just wake up in the middle of the night and at that exact moment your pc turns off and youre just like: wot
Back to bed!
then you would just be rly tired and go back to sleep probs
i think a fun compromise for the people who like to sleep and wake up in vr is to just make the screen stop rendering stuff for a while. just change it to a relaxing blue or orange gradient so your power doesnt shit itself
blue is not good for your eyes
back to vr once multiple buttons on your controllers are depressed
If it's a solid color like that can't that burn onto the screen?
I think only OLED screens burn through like that
good point. Animated background!
Get that windows screen saver where it bounces around
because when I got a hud shader for my avatar they said something about if you have a vive you should enable this thing or something to protect your screen
that and render at like 20% resolution, low framerate
or just turn the screen off
Off is probably best
Even if power is running the screen can turn off or whatever
Those HUD shaders fuck me up I hate it when stuff follows my face
I have a Vive and yeah it's just black. Dunno about turning pixels off
I heard somewhere that oled screens turn the black pixels off
honestly tho. even simple ones like the vrc health system damage cracks / gradient stresses me out
Yeah I dunno why. Glad a lot of VR games use shit on the body like watches for info or whatever
btw i'm thinking of getting the rift s anybody know if its actually good from experience ?
screenspace UI for vr* just feels bad in most cases
I don't have rift s but isn't that the new one? I've heard the normal rift was better
i liked what that one magic game did, where 4 colored and stylized quadrantts represented different spells
"better" is debatable. so far ive heard really good things about the rift s tracking and none of the usb bandwidth bullshit with the old sensors, so i guess the only other downside would be the relatively small blindspot. the real rift S killer is going to be IPD if you're sensitive to IPD
eugh thinking about what vr headset to get is stressing me out
IPD?
everything else is compromise imo. but for me personally id gladly trade in for a rift s if i wasnt already considering index
I'm just always skeptical about the camera tracking as I'm used to lighthouses
InterPupilarryDistance (distance between your eyes)
ahh okay
How is the IPD on the rift s bad? Non adjustable?
most rift s owners say that its really good.
only software IPD, no physical IPD anymore
Wtf
which is weird because quest has physical IPD adjust but whatever
its locked at like...62.5 or 65mm. forgot which exactly
It does
The IPD is fine as long as it fits your own eyes
eugh i don't get any of this
If its software then it won't automatically change if you smack the headset like the Vive though
some people say it doesnt matter, others feel like shit after 2 hours with an IPD thats like a mm off the mark
@torn vine how much money are you willing to spend on VR
or rather, how much can you spend
I need to get a ruler or some shit i have no idea what my IPD is
thats a better question to answer
ideally less then 1 rack
do you already have a VR-ready PC?
well i think my pc can easily run it
i tried comparing specs and i THINK it would work
(if you have an i5-6400 and a gtx 1060 6gb at the least then youll be okay)
hmm. id say get index since index is exactly 1,000usd but if your specs are bit more minimum then a rift S would be the safer bet at 400usd
If you wear glasses irl it's probably on your prescription, places like Walmart will check the ipd for free too
money money money best offering so far
The rift S is good
The index is stupidly good and high end
rift S is not bad at all, 300-400usd is actually like the normal price for most VR headsets (fits rift s, og rift+=vive, all wmr headsets)
but yeah, index costs that much because every bit of it is really high end. well, except for the controllers lmao
Well they're high end tech. Just not quality lol
i mean the graphics i assume on the rift s would be good and the fps would be steady so i don
whatt mic said
't think i need to get anything for 1k
Yeah the experience on the rift s is fine, anything more is just luxury
if its your first vr and you dont have a lot of money to throw around soon id especially reccommend rift S
you make it sound like its for poor people
especially since it seems like youre 1% unsure about how prepared your hardware is
its really not lol
Yeah check hardware first for sure
still doubt i would need crazy specs to play some good games and enjoy them
It's not lol it's like the difference between a luxury sports car and regular car. Nothing wrong with it, it's better.
You sound like you're trying to convince yourself not us lol I don't think anyone here is doubting the rift's quality.
No, you don't need crazy specs, but VR will take it toll on lower ends
ehh, i think the rift S is still pretty step up over most other headsets except for i guess the samsung oddyssey. its more like the difference between the nicest car at your local dealer and a fucking M8 or some shit
and like i said, someone are doing better than me on a fucking FX, you can push VR surprisingly low
my pc is a lenovo y700 it runs pretty much everything i play so i think ill be good but ill compare specs
You won't have a bad time with the Rift S if that's what you're worried about
Unless your spec are too low.
quite the opposite. i just reccommend rift S immediately after index since its the next logical headset in my recommendation list. after all, there 100% isnt anything in between. yes. nothing at all.
But running VR is nothing like running an traditional game even if it runs them normally at high settings.
0 0` give me a second
Try running two games (at the same time) at 3K each then report back 😉
Yup exactly
okay you may have some funny funny times on a gtx 960m
Does anyone know what is good computer like pc or laptop that handle index
wym @desert stratus
laptop is not 100% ideal for VR rigs but if you have a really good laptop it would be okay
it would be kinda cool to have a laptop that could do vr
for index specifically, a 2060 / equivalent or above and a strong latest-gen processor will serve you well
Definitely don't ever get a gaming laptop unless you absolutely need to.
eughs
do not cheap out on a processor because they matter for high frame rates, especially in VR. a ryzen 7 3700x would be fun to have
yeah, not into gaming laptops with rlly bad thermals
I started playing VR on a GTX-960, it is doable.
@torn vine checked some quick benchmarks on it and its a significantly weak card, though it is paired with a *relatively**strong CPU. yous hould be fine on rift S
squishy same
phew
It's certainly not ideal, but is doable.
i think it kinda sucked tho personally.....
Will depend on the game a bit.
Like kids with dual custody parents and adults who move around a lot for work are really the only people who should own a gaming laptop otherwise you can build a PC and get a cheaper work laptop
haha nice
@zinc scaffold if you want to take advantage of higher framerates, though, 2070 is the absolute minimum, but id honestly reccommend going all the way up to a 2080ti at that point
and not even the 2080ti can push all VR games at max settings at 144hz so >u>
i got a thinkpad e495 coming soon, should be nice coz linux support
Slightly higher end games like HL:Alyx definitely won't run well on the 960, and some flat to VR ports like Skyrim or No Mans Sky won't do well either.
cant wait for openhmd so i can finally nuke my windows drive
I have thinkpad laptop but it is shitty atm
But the majority of native VR games will be plenty enjoyable still.
VRC never runs well on anything so dont worry about this game's performance
stuff like beat saber generally runs well on anything, though in my personal experience it has a lot of stuttering issues on worse hardware that seems to be CPU-bound (my system on i5-6400 x gtx 1060 6gb vs my dad's which is r5-2600x x rx 580, beat saber is actually fucking smooth on my dad's system)
I have a 2070-Super now, and I average 60fps in most populated VRC worlds.
@desert stratus when you said my pc would not be ideal do you mean it couldn't handle like a 60 fps on a vr game
Hit 120 in calmer instances.
Hmm, too dark now... grr. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629302253768933376/654052248187306004/unknown.png
might be able to do a mini itx ryzen build just taking my current gpu and moving it over
Also still need to make it look more like a bar 😛
how does the ryzen 5 3600 do in vr in general, not just vrc?
what i mean is that youll likely be faking half of your frames all of the time in order to hit 90
coz nothin really does well in vrc
the 3600 comes off to me as a modern beast for most purposes
that's kinda what i figured too
@torn vine Based on my own experience, you should probably average around 45fps (in reprojection mode) on most games, with some settings turned down.
eugh i doubt i'm even gonna get any vr now
thats not bad though. i do that on my system. still looks good. great, even
Why?
like 45 fps on the lowest settings for every game
Reprojection is when it drops the game down to 45 fps but then doubles it on the headsets end, so you still see 90.
What? Lol it's not 45 regardless of settings
i am so confused about everything
well its not "exactly" 45 fps. like squishy said, the idea is that in VR you cant really afford to go lower than 90 frames since at that point the experience is gonna go to shit, so insttead your PC will try to fake half of those 90 frames in a way that im not going to explain
You're not comprehending what people are saying very well
In VRC you'll get lower than 45, but it's also not an action game so is more bearable. I was still able to enjoy VR-Chat for a year before upgrading my PC.
They said "some settings" and you ewuatr that to "I need to play everything at lowest settings"
though if u do that you can prob get a good framerate
I was hooked on VR for 6 months straight, basically not playing anything else, despite the non ideal specs.
isnt reprojection CPU heavy? since your CPU is stronger than mine it should fare better doing that
You've literally been trying to convince yourself not to get VR this whole conversation lol
so you should be good with VR
dude chill
over here like i still run skylake i3 :-)
and yeah, once you get it you will not be able to go back no matter how bad your system is
What CPU did Retrace say he has?
Me also
bought a skylake i5, still feel dumb cuz i couldve waited 3 months for first gen ryzen
i5-6700 @ruby burrow
I used to run an eight year old i5-2500k with that 960 of mine. xD
That's waaay better then.
I've known people who love vrc enough they dealt with sub-45 for years.
i wanted to upgrade to i5-6700k at one point since thats cheap and my mobo supports it but i can like
do so so much better with 3600 on some cheapo b450 board
for only a little more
Like one kid I knew played at like 20 til I sent him my old graphics card. He was like 16 so he definitely wasn't upgrading any time soon lol
20 with massive lag joining on rooms and difficulty turning since it was locked to fps
in vr??
Yup
i would vomit
He had the old rift. Like old old
dk1?
Yeah
thats incredible
You get used to it. I spend a large amount of time sub 40fps.
He got as a gift back before VRC so he was one of the master race already in it lol
my friend has WMR now, used to pipe VRC to his phone on his 950 and an i5-4xxx something
Yeah occasional low fps isn't really too bad in vrc as long as it's just a chill world
You saw how many we were this Sunday @faint skiff, how was your frames then?
Oh I knew someo who player with phone +controller
it gets unbearably tough in events
Kids will do crazy shit to play this game on their crap hardware lol
mood
how do you use dk1 rift with like
hand presence
is that a thing you can do?
I met someone using a bizarre jury rigged setup involving nolo controllers and a kinect, whilst still using a monitor somehow for vision.
You could buy the touch controllers later couldn't you
jerry rigged*
jeremy rigged
Gary Ridged
Was like... FBT desktop mode. Sort of.
actuallyl fun fact about that term, people in delaware apparently say it in a completely different fucking way
wait, jury rigged is also a thing?
Google dictionary seems to agree with how I spelt it.
jury-rigged
adjective
adjective: jury-rigged
(of a ship) having temporary makeshift rigging.
North American
makeshift; improvised.
im sorry squishy both for accusing you and also because im currently having a lexical breakdown
mood
xD
I like Jeremy Rigged
No worries.
thank you
lets just destroy all of the terms and just use jamie rigged
jamie rigged
Jamie Rigged it together lol
oh this is adam and not jamie
oops
forgot embeds don't work here little bummed about that
@polar jasper Oddly enough alright, although a good 10 or so people were performance blocked.
That's not that bad then. Only had dynamic bones and a few avatars hidden. But 80 people in a instance was pretty good
has anyones screen gone black while playing vrchat and had people talking on loop?
Yeah, I used to have that, it's crashed for whatever reason. It may eventually bounce you home.
I had to restart my computer. I didnt know it would stop after some time
It usually doesn't ime
well hopefully it will be fixed soon
oof yeah
it was going good until the end
So apparently your laptop doesn't have a dedicated GPU?
eugh i don't even get anything anymore
Wat up Gamerz?
but 80% of the fps were above 90 and steam vr performance still says its trash performance
@torn vine Find the exact model of your laptop
big odds you got thermal problems at the end
try running the test a few more times after eachother
No, that's the vague series name which covers like 100 different models
Like "Dell XPS". We need the full model.
1 sec
what is the max number of vertices now?
@raven mango There isn't a max, but ideally <70000
It does not matter much wether or not the drop in the end was thermal throtteling.
The iGPU wont do for VR
@raven mango Any higher and you get a bad rating.
lenovo 80nv
@ruby needle He's not using the iGPU otherwise it would never have reached that high in the graph in the first place.
GeForce GTX 960M 2GB, yeah, that's not going to cut the mustard unfortunately.
eugh
it might be useable for some smaller things, but VRChat will crush it, the 2GB VRAM will be a huge issue.
Not to mention that you allready had throttling issues just from the steam VR test 
Job Sim and Pavlov MAYBE, but it will be rough.
@ruby needle That could have been it running out of VRAM.
The 960M runs stupidly cool.
just open the quick menu and in the bottom right corner you will see your fps
^
anyone use shotariyas material combiner on blender 2.8, it's showing errors for me for some reason
man it tilts me our community calendar sucks compared to the JP calendar
Every single one of these are ACTIVE events that are held regularly, meanwhile the English one is like "Cancelled/Hiatus/Cancelled/Hiatus" because whoever runs it just lets people put events on it that they have no plans on actually being there to run
and it's like the same 2 or 3 events for the ones that are active on it
run your own
It's not well maintained Mic
We have wanted to do our own, but we also want better event info in the app, so making it our self will not help in getting that D:
I've got something I'm working on now but it's more aimed at RP stuff
dont matter, just dew it
I mean I'm gonna do it lol just takes time to setup and write for
Got the idea from another JP event thing
I am working on a new layout for vrchatevents.com and we're looking at getting a better calendar system, but just ideas at the moment
Well the way these are handled, I think, is that the event runner actually has to get in contact with the calendar person and submit the event every time
instead of yknow....this https://puu.sh/EO30d/0d10d2cbbf.png
Events well into 2020 because they're on some automated schedule
If your event isnt active it does'nt belong on the calendar
Yup, that's why I am working on a new one. More open, allow single events, still approval process to make sure we got quality events and not just spam
and if you can't be assed to submit a weekly application, it doesn't belong on the calendar
Like people don't even get active on social media for their own events, meanwhile I'm seeing tons of shared posts with posters and whatnot for JP events all over the place
It's a bit different culture than the western side
Yeah culture definitely does play a part, but only so much
True
Like more "normal" JP users tend to play VRC than the...well, whatever we have, myself included, on the western front
Not that there's anything wrong with us as a whole or anything, a lot of it is definitely cultural differences
but even Fantasy Shukaijou has a rotating calendar in it
Well it's more that the western community isn't a community but more just loads of smaller communities without a connection
It's the same for western events too
the Community Meetup has a lot of new people every week, but mostly the same ones
Yeah the few I've managed to catch have a lot of the same faces but sometimes its just the same few people over and over
besides that one, i havent been to that
And the fact that if you asked any user new or old if vrc had public events, what events and how to join them that almost no one at all could tell you that
But the tea-house event I went to had staff from a few of of the Host Club events I've been to as well as some other "personalities"
Part of the issue is that a lot of the more influential users in our communities are streamers which isnt an issue on its own, but many of them are in it for profit, attention, etc. There's no incentive to do things like this so they just have club maps for hanging out with their friends, which again is fine, but it doesn't help build community at all
I'm super envious of what I've seen the JP community build after going to a lot of events and seeing the cool stuff they do with zero incentive at all
The bigger western streamers don't really take part in public #events . I've seen a few join now, but they don't really stream then as they just want to enjoy the content.
But like for real
How would people even know how to join these events
Yeah I'm not blaming streamers as a whole, it's not like it's their duty to actually do this kind of thing, it's just that for a lot of people they're the more "influential" faces.
Yeah I can't get the posters off my feed for a minute as far as the JP Events go, meanwhile this is the ONLY place I hear about the community meetup lol
@umbral reef In world advertising. But VRChat also lack anything event related really.
THese are posters I've found from various JP events, they all advertise other events
Empty album 😛
derp
On phone rn so can't get the examples of backwards working we got rn for it
So gimme a minute
I remember someone talked about having spots in world that could place ads by other people automatically. While the idea is abusable as all hell it's a neat idea
All these are posters from various worlds where events are held
Would only really work in a fair and honest world.. what Vrchat isnt at all
I remember when I was a kid you could pay to put up ads on the Roblox website for your world lol
But right now for western events we have:
#events - That explains jack shit on how to join unless you look at the pinned msgs and do even more extra steps.
The VRC events website thats just #events but on a website where there is literally no way at all to find out how to join the events.
Ingame what most people wont see or even realize.
Person to Person..
This is why I want to rework the vrchatevents website. Let you add a poster there, then provide a prefab for Unity to use in game
I mean it doesn't really have to be a huge built-in thing, map owners shouldn't really have much issue adding a single poster to the world lol
Owlboy has like 10 at the door of the pug that no one looks at
Well why would we plenty are adds and not announcements for things
Also like it took me ages to learn those where just made up things
made up things?
Some have dedicated discords, twitters, hashtags, etc. Not expecting people to go that far obviously, but it definitely shows how far back we are in terms of an actual community
There's a lot of lack of information on everything vrchat though. Best way to learn advanced avatar creation is to ask people in game imo since there's no documentation on a lot of stuff
Communication has been my biggest complaint for ages
It took them so stupidly long to make a proper support page that was not wheeze worthy
Things like themed meetups (cybernetic avatars, certain creator's avatars from booth, mosnter girls, etc) are definitely more of a cultural thing since they have a different view of models than most westerners do, but there's a lot of "Well why isn't this a thing..." events I've been to as well
oh and host clubs, that'd definitely never fly lol
So long that by the time they made there version i know people (aka me) who made there own versions before that
there's a decent amount of those, a new host club event is opening up pretty soon to i think. they're liek the JP equivalent of a Club Map lol
Communication from an avatar creation stand point will never happen imo as most of the advanced stuff is a workaround at some point
It's really the basics
Oh by the way, there's a Japanese tutorial world that teaches you how to play the game
Meanwhile ours is "durhhhh step on da blox XD"
yoink, my idea now, thanks mic
it explains the camera, the safety system, everything
And for the complex things with avatars and worlds. Often the team has to learn those things themself when they want to. The basics tho- They legit halfass those as mic said
They sort of need it though, no JP translation in game to explain it
The original tutorial is just outdated now
People legit can get stuck in the tutorial worlds btw :'o
I mean there's nothing english ingame that explains the stuff either
The original tutorial barely explains anything...
it's all on the website no one reads
Oh, actually wonder if the tutorial world will work in 2018 😐
Laughs in particle limiter system
discord link on a loading screen 
Everything you could wanna know about the game as a new player is explained in the community made JP tutorial world
Howdy
No, there isn't Mic, but it's easier for one that understand english to understand it than those that don't
New players don't even know what the particle limiter is lol
Panic mode is also something peopel dont know about
Particle limiter is off by default. Don't you have to edit the files for it?
The issue is that you honestly need a certain amount of "clout" to get anything actually done lol
That and it also resets your custom set up
you mean, i like your custom safety settings, mind if i just change em, mode
Most new users complain about the dynamic bone limiter since it's on by default
You know- bricks all realistic ways of crashing with particles and sadly some animations but never got properly added into the game
Because removing it is better then a tradeoff c:
and we still need to edit a config file to tweak those settings
Honestly I feel I should remove my particle limiter. I've got particles disabled for non friends anyways
I use a config that has a limit, but it's so high that it won't disrupt any non malicious one. At least reduce it
Particle limiter is leaps better the safety system version
All you need is to have it on phaxe...
It prevents some stuff i cba to explain what means that if they want to crash you- they have to crash everyone
including themself everyone
Ah i guess enable particles for everyone but have the limiter to stop crashers makes sense
the default for the particle limiter is pretty reasonable too, the dynabone one isnt, but 1/2 🤷♂️
I just use the dynamic bone limiter as a "oh shit my frames" button
its kinda like a mini panic mode for lag at defaults
You can usually gauge the amount of dynamic bones by how many anime girls are on your screen
the long haired ones, which is most of the usual suspects
I keep mine at no dynamics on purpose.
i think ive got like...50
I have it at zero too but dont use it until my frames start dropping
Unfortunately there is no way for the game to dynamically enable settings as needed
No Dynamics can make things look so bad so I give people the medium rating level of bones so people that know what their doing can still show em off
I also do what probs no one else here does and have safety off a lot of the time
Hmm, that reminds me of something, @polar jasper ?
i have mine on, but i allow everything anyway
What kind of rig do you have?
Because no matter the settings Community Meetup lags so badly for me ;_;
I read rig as in armature smh
Lol
lol
sm head
I frequent lobbies of 40+ fullbody users so i have a somewhat need for strict safety settings
I mean, I can live with low frames, but if it is so low that I cant even click on people anymore than that's a bit bad
Yeah I'm all for the community meetup but I'm pretty sure if I show up I'll just die
Full body probably makes a difference albeit very small in relation to the requirements of the actual avatar. If anything I doubt it's more CPU, it's probably more network usage
That and i also have wireless .
oof wireless will definitely kill you
Intel i7-6700k 4.0Ghz
32 GB
GTX 1080
@covert blade nothing fancy really. Frames do get low with that many, especially with the ones we had last time
67000k ?
Oh wait NVM it was more network for local IK. Network ik it's probably the same
one extra 0 xD
yo this man from the future
I need the wireless to poledance though
Nah it's the upgraded version
That i5 doesn't look too hot
In fact, when I switched instances my game just crashed
80 people, so don't blame ya
why not split the meetup into groups if there's so many? 
That's what silent club does
One instance fills, the hosts make a new room til that one fills
I have only voice for visitors and new users. Voice and avatar for user, known, and trusted. Friends have everything
We talked about it, but splitting it up isn't really ideal as you'd want to follow the person that made the world around to listen to what they have to say
I use the same settings for all ranks because ranks are somewhat meaningless
But the community meetup has so many players that medium perf limiter and dbones off doesnt dig it
hmm i feel like there's an easier way to do that
Sooo uh, I dunno turning off all the avatars might help
but they involve the creator having to explain the room multiple times
We have people that stream it, but forcing people to go watch that because they can't be in the same world isn't really something we want to do.
Yeah, but with a time limit of 3 hours and it being filled up pretty much every time, it doesn't leave a lot of room for that
Restarting the game and making sure safety is maxed before you join on anyone for the meetup could be a good idea yeah Sasha
Custom - Voice only
Max safety is useless because it shows the avatar for trusted, which is like 99% of all players present
And then maaybe, I get 30 FPS
for daily use I have everything on but animations for non-friends
i just wouldn't even bother going into massive lobbies like that
What I mean with maxed, is disable everything (not voice) including friends
Pretty much
But I doubt the lag is coming from the avatars but who knows, maybe it helps a lil
Anything that helps ^_^
At least I hope it will
VRChat best experience: audio only. No visuals at all
What type of setup would I need for that? 🤔
just close your eyes e z
Anyone know some good xenoblade worlds and or megaman worlds
We just need worlds that auto spawn you in front of the mirror. You don't even need to move. Just need a headset with a mic and your 👌
Closing your eyes is the best vr experience. You can imagine yourself as any avatar instantly
Holy shit. Selling my index

yo
theres an avatar that makes you blind and you can only see what you touch
guys attack
i believe its a referene to a vr game about a blind girl
oh right i remember that model
Gearbell's model
anyone need a camera man for a vr chat video or vr chat pics
Name shaming with zero proof instead of reporting 
already reported with proof
Then what are you doing now?
Yeah, no one's gonna believe you
Sorry Mic I'm smol brain
Always wonder why people think that anyone would believe 'em
Sure imma trust random person telling me to watch out for other random person when I know neither of them
Did someone get it already? 🤔
vrchat heavy lagging for anyone?
question
i cant get the beta to launch. I click play then it just says exit then it goes back to saying play
Any good events tonight boys? Or is it a public world shuffle ting
Hey
I just shuffle
It's a wild west and I'm always ready to yee haw 🤠
Oh I meant no events.
I wanna be a cowboy baby 🤠
It's all club maps and dead events that still stay on the schedule
Wish whoever was in charge would organize it better but I don't think the VRC event thing is actually run by them is it?
It doesn't seem to be. And if it is they're really not doing much with it
Community run event upkeep when 
It still don't get how you even join these events. It's super confusing as a new user tbh
You don't join them you're merely allowed to know they exist
There's a separate discord that I'm gonna go ahead and assume is ass just like the calendar
anyone here who has a 1070ti, what kind of FPS do you get on a mostly populated great pug?
i'm only getting 45fps, pretty sure i have a huge cpu bottleneck
Great pug? I don't think 45 fps is even considered bad
I drop that low depending on settings/population
the pug definitely has issues lol
No, that sounds normal for The Pug.
Am I crazy or does the new Rick and Morty remind anyone of VRChat?
He's high in fantasy land "soul bonding" with people
the slut dragons
If VRchat isn't the first thing you think of when you hear slut dragons then idk what
I know what you meant... I don't know what worlds you visit because that's not my VRChat experience






