#vrchat-general-2 | VRChat | Page 929

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:04 AM

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Never had to.

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 11:04 AM

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well, if things use steam as an actuall DRM service or more deeply integrated it would do that Saigo

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But VRC doesnt really do that, it also comes as a native oculus build, sadly not standalone yet.

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Allthogh, some oculus users do want to use SteamVR for the addons cirThink

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:06 AM

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^

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:06 AM

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You need it for FBT anyways so yeah

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There is no going around

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:07 AM

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Even when I used Oculus, the perks of SteamVR outweighed the perks of Oculus.

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 11:07 AM

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thats a different thing for me.
Since going anything FBT means definitely going out of oculus only realm

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(even if a hacked solution with a oculus HMD and Vive Tracker/Kinect you're out of native oculus)

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:10 AM

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I actually never played VRC over Oculus, bc its weird with the dash and all

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Imo

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:10 AM

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OVR Toolkit feels superior to any virtual desktop anyway. And that's only on SteamVR.

feral ginkgo Nov 10, 2019, 11:11 AM

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Ngl, didn't feel good to me personally

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But maybe because I matched with Vive that has 1mm sweet spot and anything outside of it is blurry as hell

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Hate how you have to run Oculus software but it feels more responsive imho

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:13 AM

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1mm thats kinda generous man :^)

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:13 AM

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Yeah, but it also is annoying to me. It sometimes open randomly even tho i closed it. I did open pubg yesterday and it opened my oculus software 😂

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Plus everytime when there is a update for my oculus software it bugs out at installing and i have to use the repair option from the software to get the update correctly

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Its been like that since a year

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:14 AM

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Mi chan might be worth disabling that the software boots by default on launch
Last time i checked it has some harsh background checking tool that will launch the game once it realized its not running at all

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:15 AM

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I hated Oculus thinking it had to be open just because my computer was running and every time I closed it, it'd just reopen.

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:15 AM

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YES

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:15 AM

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I don't miss that at all.

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:16 AM

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Hmm

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:16 AM

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And it can also be that the face sensor thing within the headset itself triggers on some spooky ghost for no reason

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:17 AM

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I ususlly lay my headset on the floor next to my desk when i play other games and it still opens up automaticly when i launch a diff game sometimes

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:17 AM

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It never mattered how bright my room was. It'd just always think it was on my head, in the dark.

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So it'd always force open the Oculus software.

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:17 AM

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Yeah, same

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:17 AM

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Welp oculus is known for making good headsets not stores 👀

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:18 AM

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And i already got a new one replaced in july, the old one did it and the replaced one now aswell

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:18 AM

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good controllers *

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I only miss the controllers.

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:19 AM

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I dislike oculus because of the software and the company behind it (and the goals they have).
But cant deny that there headsets are leaps better if we look at price/quallity

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:19 AM

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Well, they are great, but still break too, easy

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I am on my 3th left Controller

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:19 AM

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Oof

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:19 AM

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I DUNNOOO. Maybe I'll think the Index controllers are better once they get back from RMA.

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lul

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:20 AM

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First one had issue's with walking and started to walk automaticly to the left

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:20 AM

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Index price though 😰

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:20 AM

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Got that bad i couldnt stay still anymore

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:20 AM

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Also didnt some batches of the index have problems? Is that stuff like solved by now?

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:20 AM

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The headset is definitely worth it.

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The controllers are still trying to convince me.

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:20 AM

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I heard many ppl complain abt Controllers

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:21 AM

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Also be happy its not a vive controller c:
I have had to repair my touchpad like 3 times by now
And its broken again, just cba to repair it again

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:21 AM

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Their first few waves of knuckles were bad. You're welcome for beta testing them for everyone.

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:21 AM

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Well, ik someone whos on his 3th pair since they released them

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:21 AM

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But there problems are 'solved' now?
Because im tempted to get them

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:21 AM

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Always anything else breaks

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:22 AM

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Just not in the mood to not be able to play VR for weeks while its being returned or having to repair it myself

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:22 AM

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He got them now 3times replaced by Steam

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:22 AM

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Keep in mind the sensors in the knuckles have a learning curve.

remote locust Nov 10, 2019, 11:22 AM

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imagine buying knuckles

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:22 AM

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vrcAevSlap

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:22 AM

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I like them more than Wands.

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:22 AM

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Tbh , i dont really "want" them

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:22 AM

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And I get the headset.

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:23 AM

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I do enjoy the wands in shooters though. In others its just meh

remote locust Nov 10, 2019, 11:23 AM

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but for the price, no thanks

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huge rip off

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:23 AM

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Subjective.

autumn finch Nov 10, 2019, 11:23 AM

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guys something is wrong with my vrchat i cant see anybodyes avatar(like its just hands a,body and head floating) and its telling me that they're all muted

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:23 AM

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How much are those? 350€?

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I forgot

remote locust Nov 10, 2019, 11:23 AM

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Too much anyways for what it is

errant hare Nov 10, 2019, 11:24 AM

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@autumn finch You probably have safe mode active

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:24 AM

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Put a bit more to it and u get a Rift S vrcAevSlap

autumn finch Nov 10, 2019, 11:24 AM

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then how do i turn it off

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:24 AM

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You can pay less money and get a lesser product or pay more and get a better product. Aside from my RMA, it's legit quality.

errant hare Nov 10, 2019, 11:24 AM

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@autumn finch In settings select safety* mode you want

remote locust Nov 10, 2019, 11:24 AM

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LOL since when was vive/index a good product

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:24 AM

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Index is premium.

remote locust Nov 10, 2019, 11:24 AM

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The only thing they do right is tracking

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:25 AM

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The support is terrible from Vive, just as a reminder 😂

remote locust Nov 10, 2019, 11:25 AM

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Well then premium must be pretty shit

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:25 AM

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Mine was quick.

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Support got back to me in literally a day with the labels.

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:25 AM

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Well the vive support is shit if you need support from the main guys
Never heard anyone complain within the EU about the local support places

feral ginkgo Nov 10, 2019, 11:25 AM

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It's only Premium because of the price

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:25 AM

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US gets the big cuck support though

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:25 AM

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I live in the same state as the place they ship from sooo

feral ginkgo Nov 10, 2019, 11:25 AM

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That's about it when it comes to premium

dusk mesa Nov 10, 2019, 11:26 AM

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EU usually handle it diff, i agree

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:26 AM

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You'd just have to imagine the difference going from CV1 Rift to Index.

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Night and day. I'd call Vive more of a ripoff back when it came out.

remote locust Nov 10, 2019, 11:27 AM

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yeah i'd revert back to prevent eye issues

feral ginkgo Nov 10, 2019, 11:27 AM

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How good is the sweet spot on Index?

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God rays etc. ?

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:28 AM

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Once you get it adjusted, I don't see anything wrong.

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And Screendoor is gone.

feral ginkgo Nov 10, 2019, 11:28 AM

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You know that's something 'Vive people' told me before I bought Vive

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1 year after I'm still not used to god rays and awful blur

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:29 AM

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Problem is the Vive.

feral ginkgo Nov 10, 2019, 11:29 AM

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So I'll be selling that

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And going back to Oculus, lol

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:29 AM

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Its a heavy as shit headset though from what i know

lunar shell Nov 10, 2019, 11:29 AM

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I see screen door more than God Ray's but I'm not giving up my Vive.

feral ginkgo Nov 10, 2019, 11:29 AM

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Screen door is not as big of an issue when compared to god rays imho

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Better contrast in Vive makes god rays a bigger issue to top it off

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(When compared to Oculus)

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:30 AM

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The Index just feels better to wear, feels easier to put on, looks better through the screen than my old Rift.

feral ginkgo Nov 10, 2019, 11:30 AM

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Supposedly Rift S brings some big improvements over CV1

lunar shell Nov 10, 2019, 11:30 AM

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Wireless is too important for me so I'll be using Vive until something else gets it

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:30 AM

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@crystal fossil Hows the weight distribition? Like with the vive and CV1 mainly in the front or actually some counter weight

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:30 AM

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If you can live with inside-out?

feral ginkgo Nov 10, 2019, 11:31 AM

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Inside-out is fairly polished now though

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And there are no tracking issues

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:31 AM

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Doesnt it handle low light shitty?

lunar shell Nov 10, 2019, 11:31 AM

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Except I need fbt and basestations.

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:31 AM

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I don't get uncomfortable wearing it all the time. The headphones really help too.

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I'd have paid 100 just for the headphones.

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I mean, I never fell asleep in VRC with the Rift, but I pass out watching movies with my Index, sooo.

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Just gotta adjust to the controllers really. Between getting the straps the right tightness and getting your fingers to sit on the sensors how they want.

errant hare Nov 10, 2019, 11:35 AM

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@umbral reef It doesn't handle low light at all to be honest

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 11:37 AM

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I dunno. I see things no one else in the instance can. Then again, black is black to me. I don't really see darkness and think "this could be darker".

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

lunar shell Nov 10, 2019, 11:44 AM

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I really wish I had that Fov though.

molten gale Nov 10, 2019, 12:03 PM

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Reached 700 hours

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 12:03 PM

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im on 800

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 12:11 PM

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https://puu.sh/ECT1o/a8ba0bbff6.png

broken plover Nov 10, 2019, 12:12 PM

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almost 4k hours? WHAT

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 12:12 PM

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😤

molten gale Nov 10, 2019, 12:12 PM

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Nice

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 12:22 PM

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Wish I had been keeping track of time spent in Unity and Blender for VRC. lol

fair mortar Nov 10, 2019, 12:30 PM

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heyy anybody wanna chill

broken plover Nov 10, 2019, 12:57 PM

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dont you mean vibe?

molten gale Nov 10, 2019, 12:59 PM

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Fullbody users be like: Vive check

broken plover Nov 10, 2019, 12:59 PM

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and Paci be like: Paci check

molten gale Nov 10, 2019, 1:00 PM

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wut

storm stag Nov 10, 2019, 1:22 PM

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Is it me or is the VRC website somewhat not working.
Can't seem to login there.

molten gale Nov 10, 2019, 1:28 PM

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Works for me

indigo fern Nov 10, 2019, 1:59 PM

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Restart the site

grim light Nov 10, 2019, 2:18 PM

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hi

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 2:19 PM

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um so

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how many hours do i need to be ingame to be able to upload a avatar

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i finished my avatar but it says i need to play more

snow wadi Nov 10, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Then that's what you should do, play more!

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 2:19 PM

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i am

snow wadi Nov 10, 2019, 2:19 PM

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How much more? That is something nobody knows.

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 2:20 PM

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ahh ive been for 15 hours now

snow wadi Nov 10, 2019, 2:20 PM

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Just keep playing until you get a message stating that you could upload custom content.

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 2:20 PM

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mhh okey

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:22 PM

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always link steam account to vrc

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honestly they should add that as a tip

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 4:23 PM

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i'd only link it if you really need it

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no need to give more backentries to an account when unneeded.

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:24 PM

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ya but like

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for already existing users you have to

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to get rid of the shitty name and actually get something else than visitor

rough pulsar Nov 10, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Still don't have to. Unless the user has used a Steam account for a significant amount of time and wants to automatically transfer all friends & favourite avatars across automatically.

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Not everyone bothers with uploading and the extra letters at the name are even less of a bother for many. cirPrise

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 4:29 PM

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@vocal shard what do u mean

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i dont login with steam

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mh how long do i have to be ingame for

rough pulsar Nov 10, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Not a set length of time, it factors other things in like friends and not getting blocked/muted and such.

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Just be a regular user and it'll happen eventually.

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 4:31 PM

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everyone i ask say diffrent things

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is there no system ?

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a not time based trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.

You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord, a rough estimate would be ** 20-40 hours**, but big exceptions are possible.

Make sure you are not using a steam or oculus account and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.

http://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/27-why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

rough pulsar Nov 10, 2019, 4:32 PM

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There is a system, it's deliberately kept ambiguous to prevent people 'farming' the system and here comes the wall of text

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 4:32 PM

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thats alot

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mh

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24 hours of constant activity in vr seems like alot ot ask

rough pulsar Nov 10, 2019, 4:35 PM

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It's surprising how fast 10 hours can pass when you're with fun people.

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 4:35 PM

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thats nothing for this game cirLaugh

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 4:35 PM

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10 hours..

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Not all at once. O.O
But many users have hundreds or even thousands of hours

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 4:35 PM

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mh

rough pulsar Nov 10, 2019, 4:35 PM

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A lot of user's play hours are artifically high because they sleep in VRC.

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As far as I care, sleep hours don't count. 🤣

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 4:36 PM

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(And sleeping in VR is bad)

slate verge Nov 10, 2019, 4:36 PM

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i actually do sleep in vrc, well mainly cuz i doze off at the sound of the rain and hot springs

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:36 PM

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the question is why

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no why it's bad

rough pulsar Nov 10, 2019, 4:37 PM

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I've heard it's super weird if you doze off in VR and wake up somewhere believable since that initial wake up disorientation is made weirder.

I do kinda want to try it but that means taking my index earspeakers off and use regular headphones 😦

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Because it's unhealthy and wastefull cirHuh

rough pulsar Nov 10, 2019, 4:37 PM

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It's probably worse for the HMD and cable than anything else.

slate verge Nov 10, 2019, 4:38 PM

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it depends on people, but i think its pretty fun to doze and wake up to see what is going on

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:38 PM

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ever since I got vr some things i look at

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are blurry irl

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yes

proud meteor Nov 10, 2019, 4:38 PM

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yikes

dapper stump Nov 10, 2019, 4:38 PM

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I mean it is bad to sleep in vr but same time most find it also easier to actually fall asleep in vr rather than without

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:38 PM

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well not exactly blurry

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but i try to like look at my phone

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 4:39 PM

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it's appealing and i know why many like it. @dapper stump
But there is many other things that are "nice" and not good for you 😄

rough pulsar Nov 10, 2019, 4:39 PM

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@gilded helm How long have you had/been using VR?

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:39 PM

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and it doesnt feel like my hand is actually there

slate verge Nov 10, 2019, 4:39 PM

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i find it hard to believe that sleeping in vr is bad, literally doesn't damage you

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:39 PM

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since wednesday

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like i didnt have that the first day

rough pulsar Nov 10, 2019, 4:39 PM

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@gilded helm Ah, that explains it. A lot of people experience some strange side effects during the first few weeks of VR use. Most of them should fade off with a little time.

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:40 PM

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but i like look at my phone

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and it feels like my hand is slightly to the left

dapper stump Nov 10, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Well it is bad for your eyes and it also effects your brain in ways you dont really notice until much later.. Sleep deprived etc etc

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 4:40 PM

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@slate verge Leaving the question of having the Electronics directly at your head aside, it's not healthy to have light emmitted into your eyes the whole time, it's not how the body works in relation to sleeping and light, also the constant preasure isn't that helpfull either

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Then the power waste, pointles wear (HMD and PC) is even more stupid

rough pulsar Nov 10, 2019, 4:41 PM

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@gilded helm Another one you may experience is some things while out of VR may gently drift into a strange 3D look then suddenly snap back to normal.
I had that happen quite a lot for the first two weeks of heavy VR use.

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:41 PM

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yeah

slate verge Nov 10, 2019, 4:41 PM

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well i do feel a little bit of the eyes hurting, but i don't remember seeing or hearing anyone having issues with it

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:41 PM

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exactly that

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 4:41 PM

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this isnt a short term hurting besides maybe sleep issues

molten gale Nov 10, 2019, 4:41 PM

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In my first week of vr sometimes it looked like I was still in my headset even when taking ot off

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:41 PM

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ikr

molten gale Nov 10, 2019, 4:42 PM

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it looked a bit pixelated

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:42 PM

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shit scares me because i like

rough pulsar Nov 10, 2019, 4:42 PM

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These odd effects should subside within about two weeks or so, depends on how long your average VR sessions tend to be.

molten gale Nov 10, 2019, 4:42 PM

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Yeah

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:42 PM

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need to drive

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uhh, like 6-8 hours

molten gale Nov 10, 2019, 4:42 PM

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Rookie numbers

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:42 PM

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i have shit to do too

molten gale Nov 10, 2019, 4:42 PM

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My fist week has 12 to 18 hours

rough pulsar Nov 10, 2019, 4:42 PM

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That's about the same as me, so my guess would be within about two weeks the effects should stop.

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:43 PM

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i dont have 12 hours to spend

molten gale Nov 10, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Mine faded in a few days

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:43 PM

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i gotta work and go to schoolidoo

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 4:43 PM

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thought this game dead

rough pulsar Nov 10, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Mentally the way I'd suggest handling them is to just see them, acknowledge them and dismiss it and carry on with what you were doing.

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:44 PM

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my left controller keeps fucking turning off

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 4:44 PM

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lmao

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:44 PM

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i swear if I have to send this index controller back

broken plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:44 PM

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If its broken you should probably send it back to get it fixed...

rough pulsar Nov 10, 2019, 4:44 PM

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You could try looking into the SteamVR logs, see if there's anything interesting in there.

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:45 PM

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it aint broken yet

rough pulsar Nov 10, 2019, 4:46 PM

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There's a few reasons it could be turning off, but I'd open a support ticket with Steam just in case.
Could be something stupid & simple or could be an RMA situation.

gilded helm Nov 10, 2019, 4:47 PM

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to be fair

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i never had any game open but the right one isnt turning off

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by itself

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 4:51 PM

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does it have to vbe in vr and do i have to talk for all the 24 hours

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 4:51 PM

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vr doesnt matter

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the rest is as said unknown in details

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 4:53 PM

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ok im sorry

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i get a black screen when trying to load into worlds sometimes

broken plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:56 PM

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same

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 4:56 PM

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and it resets my avatar

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everytime

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the server lags ?

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this time it took 5 min

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idk

broken plover Nov 10, 2019, 4:57 PM

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The same happens to me sometimes when I try to join the great pug

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 4:57 PM

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no

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its a clean install

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its a problem with the world

crystal fossil Nov 10, 2019, 5:16 PM

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Sometimes you can't join specific instances of a world, but you can join a different instance of that same world.

tame palm Nov 10, 2019, 5:16 PM

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i have problem

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nvm

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 5:17 PM

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yo question to anyone

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when i changed my name in game i have question marks

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anyone know why

slate verge Nov 10, 2019, 5:17 PM

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this game doesn't support certain symbols or unicodes

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 5:18 PM

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so i have to wait 90 days with that name lmao

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Pretty much

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 5:18 PM

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nice

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gotta love that

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is there anything higher ups can do?

slate verge Nov 10, 2019, 5:20 PM

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don't know

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 5:21 PM

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dam i just typed in a name i didn't know they dont support there own words

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 5:22 PM

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What did you even pick as a name?

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 5:25 PM

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♛FADED♛ and the cowns show up but not the words

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crown

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 5:25 PM

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🤔

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 5:26 PM

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im little upset and confused at the same time

vernal forge Nov 10, 2019, 5:28 PM

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it's okay , feelings will fade overtime not your name tho

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 5:29 PM

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ha ha ha

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 5:30 PM

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@viscid seal i wanted to ask you about something on the tweet you made about map inspiration but it was too long so I just decided to type it here.

is something like a "Save Code" possible? Like a setup that'd allow you to input a passcode to skip or forceably activate triggers up to a certain point to prevent having to re-do an entire map in the case of a really long one, or would the map itself have to already be extremely simple to do that kind of thing

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 5:31 PM

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hjey some people i talked to said they use dynamic bones how do i obtain that ?

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 5:32 PM

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@charred grove Unity Asset Store

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 5:34 PM

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ohh

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okey thank you

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oh

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it costs money i see

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 5:44 PM

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Yup

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 5:44 PM

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is there something like it i can use thats free ?

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 5:51 PM

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short of creating your own hair animation that would mimic moving hair, which i dont think ive seen anyone do, no

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 5:51 PM

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I've seen people do that with tails but not hair

faint skiff Nov 10, 2019, 5:59 PM

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@charred grove Cloth physics is part of Unity, but will require a lot of fiddling to get right.

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Please don't use cloth for your hair 👀

slim temple Nov 10, 2019, 6:02 PM

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Don't use cloth on high poly if you care about frames, lol

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Cloth can be a really good way to make something very, very low poly look great though.

broken plover Nov 10, 2019, 6:03 PM

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We need nvidia hairworks! xD

slim temple Nov 10, 2019, 6:03 PM

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somewhat ironically, to your jest, cloth physics uses nvidia physx

broken plover Nov 10, 2019, 6:03 PM

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but unfortunatly I have an amd card :/

slim temple Nov 10, 2019, 6:04 PM

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doesn't matter, it's all done on cpu

broken plover Nov 10, 2019, 6:04 PM

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but hairworks is done on the gpu if I remember correctly

slim temple Nov 10, 2019, 6:05 PM

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yes and no. It can compute on both much like physx. You can force physx titles over to the gpu if you have nvidia but the performance gains are basically negligible and may even be worse if you're doing other work on the gpu

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either way, vrchat is already cpu heavy and many operations happen on unity's update() method across a few threads (like most unity games), and if you're in vr it's even more work for both. Cloth physics and dynamicbone can both be more or less performant than each other

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that all depends on setup most of all

faint skiff Nov 10, 2019, 6:08 PM

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I thought one of the whole points of PhysX was that it was processed on the GPU for supported hardware? lol

slim temple Nov 10, 2019, 6:08 PM

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at one time, yes, since the gpu did it so much better

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but the calculations required to do physx feature sets are easily done on the cpu now

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physx was originally it's own company selling physics tech addon pci cards, nvidia later bought them and integrated the tech into their gpus

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eventually, the software installed on a pc could do it on the cpu, especially when multi-core became the norm

broken plover Nov 10, 2019, 6:10 PM

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It would be cool if the gpu could somehow be used to process some of the tasks instead of the cpu. When I play vrc my cpu is always the bottleneck. But also in other games, because I play on low or medium because of my cpu. My already weak gpu is being bottlenecked by the cpu...

slim temple Nov 10, 2019, 6:10 PM

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to quote tupper last night "Any game that allows user generated content is going to have issues you cannot control for"

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and that's the key, really. Some maps perform fantastically, and if every avatar was just one or two draw calls and there was only 4-8 players visible at a time the game would practically scream along

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3 big things in my experience are unity's current realtime gi directional lighting system on dynamic objects (us, the players) and many people are using shadowmask with like more than 4 light sources, things get real weird and very heavy no matter what you do. Using light probes for precomputed illumination fixes that a lot, but not every world uses it. Secondly is the cost of skinned mesh renderers (having too many bones that don't do anything makes this worse), and incorrect sound setup in worlds can tank ram.

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Using occlusion volumes and draw distance fixes can help a ton, and using precomputed lighting techniques go a long way. These are all really advanced things for creators, and of course we really all enjoy having 40 or more people in a map

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very few games allow for that

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Hola

viscid seal Nov 10, 2019, 6:29 PM

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@rigid crescent yeah that's possible but can be messy to set up depending on the complexity of the map. Luxerion world for example is too messy in how I made it for this to work without issues. The horror world, we won't be adding any codes sicne the world itself once you know what to do is pretty short. if you played what a legend, its kinda like that where once you know how to do something its really easy the second time round.

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 6:37 PM

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Yeah, I figured it would be pretty hard on anything but a simpler map, which probably wouldn't need it to begin with unless it's just really big. It's an interesting idea though. Probably won't be needed with Udon, but I'm surprised I've never seen anything that used something like that.

viscid seal Nov 10, 2019, 6:38 PM

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its been doable, I feel like some worlds out there have used it already but having trouble thinking of one 🤔

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 6:38 PM

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im sorry

viscid seal Nov 10, 2019, 6:38 PM

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the horror world though is a very connected world so the world feels a lot smaller when you unlock those shortcuts 🙂

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(its why I wanted the world to be physically connected and not be teleport doors)

tacit tartan Nov 10, 2019, 6:44 PM

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hey quick question do u get demoted for unfriending people?

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Yes.

tacit tartan Nov 10, 2019, 6:44 PM

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da hell

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 6:44 PM

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If you do mass unfriending.

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I once unfriended like 400-500 people and got deranked to known

tacit tartan Nov 10, 2019, 6:45 PM

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well thats a rip i was trusted user after a long time and now iam back to known :/

warped creek Nov 10, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Yes, I have read a story of someone doing that and being deranked from Trusted (Purple) to User (Green).

tacit tartan Nov 10, 2019, 6:45 PM

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and how do i get back to trusted again? like is there a pattern or am i just gonna have to wait again

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Should not take long to rerank

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And playing the game does the job

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Pretty much

warped creek Nov 10, 2019, 6:46 PM

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I have heard a rumor too that removing one person takes away more rank than adding one.

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 6:46 PM

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That I'm unsure of

tacit tartan Nov 10, 2019, 6:46 PM

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well i played and it took months to get from known to trusted

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well never mass unfriending people who havent been on in ages again lol

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 6:48 PM

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@tender shoal wat

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400-500?

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How'd ya manage to collect that many?

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Accepting each and every friend request that comes in

tacit tartan Nov 10, 2019, 6:48 PM

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i guess if ur popluar

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 6:48 PM

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And also adding people I thought were funny

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Ohjeez

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Then never actually hanging out

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So I decided to purge my friends

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 6:49 PM

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I unfriended only like 31 friends yesterday

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 6:49 PM

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It took no time to get my rank back tho. Only took like a week or 2

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 6:49 PM

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From 115 to 84

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Had a whole bunch of randoms I completely forgot and had nothing to look up because I probably added them when I was desperate for friends and ranks

warped creek Nov 10, 2019, 6:49 PM

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And you are Known right? @covert blade

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Yes I am

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Yeah I tend to keep my friends tidy now. There's a lot of bots going around adding each and every person they see. Some for bad reasons and some for just ranking up.

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 6:49 PM

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And still am even after my unfriending spree

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Not that I would've cared but I expected to get thrown back to User

warped creek Nov 10, 2019, 6:50 PM

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I have a very similar amount of people in my friends list and I wonder how close I might be to Known User.

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Because I only recently became Known

tacit tartan Nov 10, 2019, 6:50 PM

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i was at 160 friends and down to 46 now

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Well yeah if you've just ranked up I could see why.

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You'll get it back pretty quick though I'm sure

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 6:51 PM

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But now I'll just add people people who seem friendly and nice

tacit tartan Nov 10, 2019, 6:51 PM

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ok thx for ur time ^^

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 6:51 PM

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And put a note on their profile so I have an easier time remembering

warped creek Nov 10, 2019, 6:51 PM

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I have 212hrs clocked in according to Steam.

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Then I don't have to worry about joining someone I forgot because I can say that I actually added them because they were nice and not just because I needed more friends

warped creek Nov 10, 2019, 6:51 PM

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It would be cool if you could put short text notes to anyone like you can do here on Discord.

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Yeah

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 6:52 PM

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They have a canny for ideas. You can post it there if you'd like

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 6:52 PM

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^

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 6:52 PM

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There's a third party website for that but uh, might break the ToS because you give your account information to someone else

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Also might create an additional security risk

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 6:52 PM

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it's breaking your security.

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which is the main concern about giving anyo third party side any account info. (which you never should do anywhere)

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Yes, I am aware

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That's why I hope for a first party solution ASAP

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Steam as nicknames, Discord has notes

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Make a offline document.

That'd be funny to look at all at once cirLaugh
(this is a joke)

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Well vrc has the "Best friend" system to be fair. Just add people to the group 1 - 3 list

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 6:55 PM

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xD

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Although an offline document would actually be safer and would still work

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There's just one problem

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 6:56 PM

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I think, if you're at the point you dont know who is who and what, you have to many not true friends cirLaugh

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Actually multiple >_>

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Im however one who does manage their friendlist regularely

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Of course not all the 84 people I have added are my best friends that I know very well

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But it can help remembering people especially when they change their name again

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 6:58 PM

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namechange is a propper reason, allthough a name history would also be a nice idea

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 6:58 PM

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That too. That's why I've put nicknames on basically everyone on Steam because people change so often that it's easy be confused

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And I know the website will always show the original name but if you've added someone who already had a changed name then that won't really help

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Then the next time they change, both their display and account name will be unknown to you unless you've been memorizing that before they did it by checking the website

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Yeah I prune/manage every other month

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I just use an api tool to do it though, shows "original name" as well so when im doing it i know if it's someone that just neglected to tell me they changed their name

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Oh that's nice

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 7:01 PM

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I mean you should be pruning on the website anyway though

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Doing it ingame will always have mixed results since its so iffy

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 7:01 PM

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I'm not nearly as popular enough for that to really be a problem for me though

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Just had too many randoms from the time I was visitor / New user >_>

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Yeah I got rid of those

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Hopefully I won't have to prune again because I'll stick to only adding people I actually like and not accept some random friend request I got from a person I saw for 5 seconds

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Sometimes I vibe with people once, we add eachother, and it just doesn't snap the other times so eventually i just remove them

rustic schooner Nov 10, 2019, 7:03 PM

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Hello

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 7:04 PM

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That's fair, but in my case I just had the most random people on my list so like, eh.
Now I'm just gonna stick to only adding people I actually like so I can with 100% certainty say that there's not going to be a problem with joining them because I actually somewhat know them

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Yeah I used to back when I just added like crazy. I'm only barely breaking 200 again recently and I like that it's 200-ish people I generally care about

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 7:04 PM

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oof

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 7:05 PM

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instead of being one of those people with 1000 friends and i only talk to maybe 100 of them lol

warped creek Nov 10, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Wow, here I am with ~80 people in my friends list and pretty much everyone added me. I have sent friends requests once or twice only.

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 7:05 PM

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I have 84 after my prune and those are all people who I can actually recall

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Yeah most of my friends list definitely added me, I'm really bad about remembering to add people lol

broken plover Nov 10, 2019, 7:06 PM

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I have about 110 friends and only about 10 of them are active

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Like as far as my friend's list goes, I can tell you how I met almost every single one, moments we've had together, etc since I regularly weed out randos

indigo fern Nov 10, 2019, 7:06 PM

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i have a buncha people added, im usually delighted when any of them join me too

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saw this piano playing dude a while ago that i met when i first joined, very epic

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yea

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of course

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 7:08 PM

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actually scrolling through my list now, I can only find one person I can't recall a ton about so thats good

indigo fern Nov 10, 2019, 7:08 PM

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he actually has a piano avatar now ;-;
hes grown so much

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 7:08 PM

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I do tend to forget things myself pretty often though

indigo fern Nov 10, 2019, 7:08 PM

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lmao no

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he used to just be a toon link and it was hilarious

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 7:09 PM

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But not really surprising because sometimes you add one person and then proceeded to always struggle being on at the same time as them

indigo fern Nov 10, 2019, 7:09 PM

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maybe like beginning of 2018

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i only run into him randomly tho, dont join or anything

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i keep the ones i remember meeting

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i remember a bit tho, so its neat

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 7:24 PM

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How do you full screen vrchat on pc

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 7:24 PM

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Alt + Enter should do it

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Else hold shift while starting the game and a menu should open up

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 7:24 PM

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Ok thanks

fathom bolt Nov 10, 2019, 7:27 PM

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hm so if someone ripped my model and now does sell if for money. and lets assume I got the name. what can I possibly do?

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was thinking about making it public to piss them

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vrchat name that is

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 7:27 PM

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Send a DMCA claim on the website selling them

fathom bolt Nov 10, 2019, 7:27 PM

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its a discord i dont know

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 7:27 PM

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Calling them out also works but will result into nothing

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If you got proof you can also email Vrchat about it, not sure what they can do but who knows
You do need to own all rights of the avatars

fathom bolt Nov 10, 2019, 7:29 PM

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I mean the face was from one I bought from yuumi, the body is from makeahuman, the rest is either self modeld or common creative

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 7:30 PM

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Then it still might be worth emailing the team about it if you can prove they are selling your exact model with the changes you made.

fathom bolt Nov 10, 2019, 7:31 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/EMX2qjg.jpg

broken plover Nov 10, 2019, 7:32 PM

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click

fathom bolt Nov 10, 2019, 7:32 PM

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replaced the link with the actual image from there

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cant post pics in random either

broken plover Nov 10, 2019, 7:33 PM

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in random chat if you post a link to a picture it still gets shown there

faint skiff Nov 10, 2019, 7:58 PM

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Is "World Feedback" replacing the "Community Meetup" today?

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 7:58 PM

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lol

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 8:08 PM

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how do you report someone for inappropriate language and or actions in VRChat

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 8:09 PM

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Check --> #moderation-reports

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 8:16 PM

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what version of dynamic bones work for the 2017.4.34f1 lts that is used for vrc atm ?

rancid nova Nov 10, 2019, 8:25 PM

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so last night i got ddosed...again

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even though i was on a vpn

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he even told me that i was from new york and that i am "hosting services inc"(moron), which is obviously not true

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ddosed me, and when i went to switch vpn locations i was still getting ddosed

tropic thicket Nov 10, 2019, 8:27 PM

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how can VRChat netcode leak your IP?

rancid nova Nov 10, 2019, 8:27 PM

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vrchat multiplayer is p2p

tropic thicket Nov 10, 2019, 8:27 PM

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devs are not from 1997

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ohhhhh

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Vrchat is not p2p

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 8:27 PM

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That is wrong @rancid nova

polar jasper Nov 10, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Its Steam p2p that is leaking your ip, not VRChat

rancid nova Nov 10, 2019, 8:28 PM

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theyre using steams multiplayer solution, thats p2p

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 8:28 PM

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Stream is leaking the IP, shutting down steam is preventing that

polar jasper Nov 10, 2019, 8:28 PM

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They use Photon for multiplayer, Steam for Voice

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 8:28 PM

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It's a debug option thats causing it, not the main system.

rancid nova Nov 10, 2019, 8:29 PM

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regardless the steam service theyre using is exposing the ip

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and they chose to use it

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 8:29 PM

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It's not the service per say, it's a specific option.

rancid nova Nov 10, 2019, 8:30 PM

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why are you arguing semantics lmao

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the point is that something vrchat is using is exposing the user's ips

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i used a vpn and it still didnt protect me

tropic thicket Nov 10, 2019, 8:30 PM

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neko kitty shudders in terror

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 8:30 PM

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If you want to be "safe" close steam after launching the game.

rancid nova Nov 10, 2019, 8:31 PM

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that is the dumbest shit i have ever heard

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 8:31 PM

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It's... however true?

rancid nova Nov 10, 2019, 8:32 PM

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its dumb because the solution to not getting ddosed in a game made by people who have received tens of millions of dollars in funding is to close steam

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Thats not the "solution"

rancid nova Nov 10, 2019, 8:32 PM

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that sounds insane, ive never heard of any other game having this issue

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 8:32 PM

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That's a workaround safetly layer to use while that is a risk cirHuh

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 8:32 PM

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So many games leak ips lmao

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Well, while true thats not an excuse 😄

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(Considering the fault)

faint skiff Nov 10, 2019, 8:33 PM

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@charred grove The latest version. Also that's the wrong version of Unity.

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 8:34 PM

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mhh

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Never said it was not a reason to not fix it
Just wanted to comment on the 'never heard of any other games'

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 8:34 PM

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what version do i need

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 8:34 PM

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2017.4.28f1

rancid nova Nov 10, 2019, 8:34 PM

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ive never heard of people getting ddosed by the dozens on a nightly basis from a video game

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 8:34 PM

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okey

rancid nova Nov 10, 2019, 8:35 PM

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have games leaked ips in the past, yeah, but a game of vrchat's scale

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 8:35 PM

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This is a social game where such issues quickly spread trough many mouths.
And there is a lot more interest by bad guys totarget individuals.

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DDOS ing enemies in some MP games isn't a thing unheard of.

rancid nova Nov 10, 2019, 8:35 PM

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theres interest by "bad guys" because the game makes no effort at banning, moderating, or preventing people from doing this

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 8:35 PM

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On VRchats scale? Dont know what scale VRchat is but bigger more known games? Ow for sure they have

rancid nova Nov 10, 2019, 8:35 PM

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overwatch doesnt leak user ips lmao

tropic thicket Nov 10, 2019, 8:36 PM

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I get ddossed in Overwatch

polar jasper Nov 10, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Because they use servers =/

rancid nova Nov 10, 2019, 8:36 PM

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you cant get ddosed from overwatch stop being ridiculous lol

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Its lesser big now because most people in the industry arent retards anymore
But LoL had a time where this was a problem, CS;go lobbies before the game share ip's, the first bunch of CoD games leaked ip's 24/7

rancid nova Nov 10, 2019, 8:37 PM

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you can ddos their servers

polar jasper Nov 10, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Any game that use Steam P2P voice will leak the IP =/
Rust has had it happen. Destiny 2 has had it happen.

rancid nova Nov 10, 2019, 8:37 PM

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you cant ddos the users, that is a huge distinction youre failing to make

lunar cedar Nov 10, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Steam P2P has used the akamai relay service for quite some time now

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Drop hacks are a thing within OW.

polar jasper Nov 10, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Steam P2P use akamai for game servers, but not for voice afaik.

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 8:39 PM

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(Also, OW gives ips on console not PC)

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So yea, it should be patched as its stupid that it can even happen right now
But no its not something only VRchat has

charred grove Nov 10, 2019, 8:44 PM

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okey

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i am on the right unity version now

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 9:02 PM

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game of vrchat's scale Yeah games on a scale ten times of VRC have leaked IPs lol

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Destiny 2 does it, R6 did it for a while but I'm pretty sure they recently did a big fix for it.

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GTA V does it.

pseudo basalt Nov 10, 2019, 9:03 PM

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valve did it plenty too but through steam

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 9:03 PM

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there's probably like 20-25k active users max, just going by double what peak is since not everyone is online at once

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Destiny 2 has a few million

pseudo basalt Nov 10, 2019, 9:03 PM

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remember when all you needed to get someone's ip was to call them on steam, they didn't even need to pick up

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it's pretty stupid that vrc leaks your ip but like, since everyone knows know it'll probably be fixed very soon

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 9:04 PM

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Its taking stupidly long tbh-
But its not as world ending as people claim

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Well I thought it's been known for a while.

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And it's so easy to get your hands on dlls that can grab ips too.

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Around a year for sure
If its not even longer

pseudo basalt Nov 10, 2019, 9:09 PM

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VRC isn't exactly known for it's security

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So I guess you should know what you're getting into, especially if you hang around malicious people

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 9:10 PM

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It's always nice hearing someone you reported got banned, you get that warm fuzzy feeling tanabae

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Then you find out they just ban evade

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Then that feeling is gone.

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Still no proof for that i see?

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 9:13 PM

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Ban evading isn't exactly hard

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 9:13 PM

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It's not. It's actually very easy.

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 9:13 PM

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As with all free games

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 9:13 PM

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Ow i read it wrong

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 9:13 PM

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It's not super hard with paid games either but how often will you run into a person willing to buy the game over and over again

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 9:14 PM

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My blind ass cant read today it seems
Though you wrote that they can unban themself not ban evade

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@covert blade Laughs in CS;GO

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Imagine if people could do that

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Laughs in not playing that game for good reasons 👀

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Well there was a time when people could ban other users.

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With a cheat

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Temp ban, Took a reboot of the game to 'undo' it

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Hmmm nope

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Giving themselves moderation tools.

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 9:15 PM

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And we also had the time where a cache clear undid it

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Lmao imagine

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Unless they have some sort of backdoor access to the server itself, a proper ban would be unlikely

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 9:15 PM

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This was long ago

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Not recent.

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Around two years ago. It was still a rumor

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 9:16 PM

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I also remember by changing 1 number in code you could give yourself a dev tag in game

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Just the tag, no actual ingame options and tools.

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Correct.

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 9:16 PM

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And with the being able to 'temp ban' users at the same time (and if you where unlucky needing to clear cache) the rumor started that you just said

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Actual banning has never happened by users.

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The go to trick back then to see if you got legit banned or fake was to log into the website

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 9:17 PM

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Some crazy stuff people do on this game.

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 9:18 PM

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Way more crazy rumors

pseudo basalt Nov 10, 2019, 9:18 PM

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I mean, considering people could actually log you out

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 9:18 PM

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Some people just go all out with the lying. I had one guy once say he was gonna hack my unity and delete all my projects from vrc

pseudo basalt Nov 10, 2019, 9:18 PM

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I think it's more likely to assume it was true

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 9:18 PM

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I just laughed at him.

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Logs outs were fun.

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 9:18 PM

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@pseudo basalt We are talking about when users could propt a legit ban msg to show up (no time or reason though) what meant they had to fully reboot the game

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Like a step above logouts kinda

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Logs out kinda worked the same way
But claiming people can change information thats serverside and not client side? Laughable without proof really.

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 9:20 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/husky-derp-sneeze-wheeze-funny-gif-12677759

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I know forcekick still works which is a bicc laugh

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Wonder what the next big thing will be

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Like logouts

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Seen talk about users being able to teleport to users within rooms. No idea how valid it is as i havent been online this week yet.
So id guess that?

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Uh

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Like teleport to a player?

molten gale Nov 10, 2019, 9:21 PM

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I have heard something way morr scary

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But I wont tell here

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Teleporting to players has been a thing for a long time. Yeah it's a thing

broken plover Nov 10, 2019, 9:21 PM

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dm's then?

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 9:22 PM

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Welp then id guess that as i been hearing more and more about it

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DM me paci :lewd:

broken plover Nov 10, 2019, 9:22 PM

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open a discord group and tell us there 👀

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now available for 9.99$ each!

faint skiff Nov 10, 2019, 9:23 PM

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Someone was in the Pug last night, playing super loud screeching through their mic while flying around the map, clipping through everything. That was... annoying.

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 9:23 PM

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Yep.

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Typical noob client user.

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Funny enough that could be done without a client thanks to how SteamVR works

tender shoal Nov 10, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Usually anyone who gets a client wants to show it off and do stuff like that.

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 9:24 PM

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hi

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Hello young friend cirHi

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 9:25 PM

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young xd

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do you know how to start VRChat with NO-VR mode without opening steam and clicking play?

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 9:26 PM

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make a shortcut with the parameter in it.

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 9:26 PM

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what parameter?

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 9:26 PM

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the no vr parameter

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 9:27 PM

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how? sorry for stupid questions...

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 9:27 PM

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http://Shared.DJ-FPaul.de/a04eDYJ50j.png

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make a shortcut and add it to the upper field, like there

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 9:31 PM

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hmmm it still open in VR mode to me

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 9:31 PM

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did you type --no-vr ?

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 9:32 PM

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i type -no-vr not --no-vr

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 9:32 PM

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retry with 2 dashes

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 9:33 PM

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oh thank you man

ruby needle Nov 10, 2019, 9:33 PM

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np cirComfy

faint skiff Nov 10, 2019, 9:36 PM

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No-one answered before and I can't think of anyone else more specific to ask, so I'll repeat the question: Is the "World Feedback" replacing the "Community Meetup" today?

broken plover Nov 10, 2019, 9:36 PM

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wasnt the community meetup always about users showing their worlds?

faint skiff Nov 10, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Yes, but the "World Feedback"'s description is specifically for help.

viscid seal Nov 10, 2019, 9:40 PM

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world feedback was the old name for it

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it changed to community meetup around december last year I believe 🤔

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so it just hasn't been changed in the calender i guess

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it went from dev meetup > world feedback > and now "community meetup"

faint skiff Nov 10, 2019, 9:41 PM

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Weird, it was correct in the calendar last time I checked. Has it somehow reverted?

viscid seal Nov 10, 2019, 9:41 PM

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but its still the same exact event

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oooh, that might be possible I guess 👀

faint skiff Nov 10, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Hmm, that's annoying. I've missed it then because I thought something else was going on.

viscid seal Nov 10, 2019, 9:42 PM

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its still going on

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I'm watching cyan's stream

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they're in the 2nd or 3rd world right now and theres quite a big list today

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(it started 40 mins ago)

faint skiff Nov 10, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Hmm ok, I'll jump on then.

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Thanks

viscid seal Nov 10, 2019, 9:46 PM

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^_^ have fun 😁

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oh, I'll send you a link to the events discord actually

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worth joining that to stay up to date on that event

untold fiber Nov 10, 2019, 11:30 PM

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I'm new to vrchat, downloaded it recently because some youtubers made videos on it but I'm too shy to interact with anyone there

devout island Nov 10, 2019, 11:33 PM

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try to find an avatar you like and maybe you can become a meme

molten gale Nov 10, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Dont obstruct peoples view of the mirror

untold fiber Nov 10, 2019, 11:34 PM

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I went online the other day and there were a bunch of banana bois

molten gale Nov 10, 2019, 11:34 PM

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if people stare at a wall theres a mirror

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and uh yeah you instantly get yelled at if you are between them and the mirror

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also just try not to be annoying >~>

untold fiber Nov 10, 2019, 11:35 PM

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frick

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jk

molten gale Nov 10, 2019, 11:36 PM

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Theres a lot to learn

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 11:37 PM

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That moment when I join a friend because I've added them on Discord but haven't seen them ingame yet and accidentally end up in the Community Meetup :X

molten gale Nov 10, 2019, 11:39 PM

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lmao

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I wish I had time

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But eh too many ppl

median hedge Nov 10, 2019, 11:40 PM

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is that bad?

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 11:40 PM

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ive never actually been to one

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 11:40 PM

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If you have social anxiety and / or are shy, yes.

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 11:40 PM

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im not usually on at this time, though i could be i guess

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 11:40 PM

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I only joined on accident

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Saw a wild Tupper, took photo of said wild Tupper, left because I realized that I dont want to be there

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It's almost like The Box levels of me avoiding it

rigid crescent Nov 10, 2019, 11:41 PM

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yeah i wouldnt wanna be around Tupper either, he smells off vrcTupper

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 11:41 PM

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Heh

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@molten gale But don't worry too much about it because I ain't going there any time soon either.

inner cape Nov 10, 2019, 11:43 PM

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cirno

covert blade Nov 10, 2019, 11:43 PM

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The only reason I was there for like a minute was because I didn't know about it

halcyon dawn Nov 10, 2019, 11:45 PM

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Hi, I have been playing VRChat for about a two days and unfortunately today alone I have had two people track my ip address and nail down the small city I live in. I was threatened to have cops, helicopters, and dogs break into my house for literally doing nothing. What are some ways I can protect myself from this happening and people trying to intimidate/scare me? One of the people was clearly hacking and I was unable to even block them.

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 11:45 PM

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Just use a vpn nerd

desert stratus Nov 10, 2019, 11:45 PM

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pro tip #1 : 99% of the time people are not going to be able to go that far with just your ip

halcyon dawn Nov 10, 2019, 11:45 PM

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My internet is to shitty I will lag my ass off w a vpn

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:45 PM

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Turn of steam when you run the game

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 11:46 PM

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It’s than other get ddosed

desert stratus Nov 10, 2019, 11:46 PM

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pro tip #2: most of the people pulling that shit are like 15 or so. ties right into pro tip #1.

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pro tip #3: vpn, or just do this: dont block anyone, just report them so they dont get alerted (they get your ip by using clients which will also tell them when you block them), and avoid public instances of the box, room of the rain, and open mic night

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:47 PM

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Or just disable steam once Vrchat runs

halcyon dawn Nov 10, 2019, 11:47 PM

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Alright thanks alot ill try to disable steam and avoiding those lobbies

desert stratus Nov 10, 2019, 11:47 PM

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you can also resetyour ip really easily by just resetting your router. if that doesnt work, i think you can also call your ISP

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:48 PM

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Also for the record. The best they can do is get your IP and aprox location. Most IP's are not house bound so there claims of the cops is pure bullshit

halcyon dawn Nov 10, 2019, 11:48 PM

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its a pretty toxic thing to deal with, im 19 so its not as concerning but there are a ton of 13-6 yr olds I could see be very frightened by this/manipulated.

vocal shard Nov 10, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Unfortunately this ip scare has been around in games for years. It always seems to come back for new generation of players

halcyon dawn Nov 10, 2019, 11:50 PM

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I ended up having to restart my router because my internet crashed pretty soon after this, I most likely was ddosed. ima just invest in a good vpn client that doesnt make me lag ;/

empty flint Nov 10, 2019, 11:56 PM

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I can sometimes get shy myself still

median hedge Nov 10, 2019, 11:56 PM

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So 99% of the time people are lying if they say they know where you live by your ip address?

empty flint Nov 10, 2019, 11:56 PM

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I think it's cause Im always alone irl and being outside to try and socialize is a pain in the neck for me it's probably affecting how I am in VRChat

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when Im with a friend of mine I open up a bit more but when Im alone it's sometimes a different story

desert stratus Nov 10, 2019, 11:57 PM

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mhm. other rumors include: people being able to fry your pc via vrchat, vrchat not being multithreaded (its not perfectly multithreaded but it is using more than one core), etc.

faint skiff Nov 10, 2019, 11:57 PM

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You can tell by looking up your IP against something like maxmind to see how specific it is

desert stratus Nov 10, 2019, 11:57 PM

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along with blaming the majority of framerate issues on the game itself and not user content.

faint skiff Nov 10, 2019, 11:58 PM

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Unless they work for your ISP they cant see who you are

desert stratus Nov 10, 2019, 11:58 PM

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theres a good number of weird rumors in this game that are either flat out false or not 100% true

empty flint Nov 10, 2019, 11:58 PM

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isnt that what a rumor means anyway?

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:58 PM

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@median hedge Most ISP do provide the average location. But for my its like 3 towns over.

desert stratus Nov 10, 2019, 11:58 PM

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but if people claim any of the above, there's likely other factors at play or they're flat out lying / misunderstanding something

empty flint Nov 10, 2019, 11:58 PM

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just silly words until it's proven to be 100% true?

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:58 PM

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So they do kinda guess

median hedge Nov 10, 2019, 11:59 PM

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@umbral reef thanks

umbral reef Nov 10, 2019, 11:59 PM

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If it wasnt 1pm id explain it a bit more and get you some proof of it but google might do the job also

empty flint Nov 10, 2019, 11:59 PM

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hence why spoilers in video games dont work on me cause most of the time they could just very well be rumours or other made-up garbage

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I've seen false spoilers in the past until I found out the truth myself

inner cape Nov 11, 2019, 12:01 AM

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dumbledore dies

empty flint Nov 11, 2019, 12:01 AM

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dumbledore learns how to fly

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o-o

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Example of maxmind - https://xnode.org/page/Your_Information - for me it's miles off

median hedge Nov 11, 2019, 12:02 AM

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Dumbledore is a wizard

empty flint Nov 11, 2019, 12:02 AM

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Harry Potter is a pot o-o

halcyon dawn Nov 11, 2019, 12:09 AM

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for me its really accurate

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 12:27 AM

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But still, at best it would be a city or borough. They'd have to work at your ISP (or know someone that works at your ISP that would do it for them) to be able to then look up your IP against an account to find out who owns that phone line.

desert stratus Nov 11, 2019, 12:27 AM

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poor website cant even find out where my location is at all >u>

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 12:28 AM

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What did it say?

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Just "Unknown"?

desert stratus Nov 11, 2019, 12:32 AM

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mhm?\

serene lily Nov 11, 2019, 12:33 AM

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zircron

empty flint Nov 11, 2019, 12:34 AM

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welp got the iris/pupils on my avatar updated

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 12:34 AM

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Got a screenshot of that?

empty flint Nov 11, 2019, 12:35 AM

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since I was worried I wasnt going to get along with any alternative shaders for the eyes I decided to modify them myself in Blender

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hmm let me see I believe I posted a screenshot on a different Discord just recently

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 12:36 AM

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Well wat about here then?

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I need photos

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 12:37 AM

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You can't post them here, they'd have to post a link, hence why they're looking for a post from elsewhere

empty flint Nov 11, 2019, 12:37 AM

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exactly

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that (+) on the left side of the text box isnt there

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 12:37 AM

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#vrchat-pictures

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Lol

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I know that but you said different discord

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And with here I meant this server

empty flint Nov 11, 2019, 12:38 AM

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actually I'll post them in #avatars-2-general cause I dont have the screenshot taken ingame since I have yet to upload the avatar after I've finished with my modifications

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and I never posted the screenshot here so thats why I had to head to a different Discord server where I have posted it

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cause that's where I recently sent it...

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right now seeing if I can make different shape keys for different facial expressions I may be able to use in Unity when creating custom gestures or even emotes.... I just have a gutsy feeling I should thats all

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someone's avatar looked whacky with 100 value on one of the blinking shape keys, instead had to use the value of 50

late lily Nov 11, 2019, 12:43 AM

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How would someone even get your IP in a non P2P situation? All traffic should be going through a server, which I would assume is secure. Packets sent back to you don’t include IP info about other players, right? The only way I can see that happening is if they’re sniffing server traffic directly. And then, how would you filter who is who? Maybe I’m just uneducated about networking...

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 12:45 AM

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Because Steam

alpine crater Nov 11, 2019, 1:18 AM

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vrchat is p2p though

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so it's entirely possible that someone sniffing traffic or using a modded client can see it

rigid crescent Nov 11, 2019, 1:19 AM

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vrcTrollThinking it is?

hazy gyro Nov 11, 2019, 1:22 AM

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even with a vpn you arent safe now

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friend got ddosed last night while on his vpn

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"i knew some people in the past and they were assholes to me so now im going to ruin this game so no one plays it"

late lily Nov 11, 2019, 1:23 AM

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Oh, yeah, of course. I assumed dedicated servers. How does it select a host? Or is it a mesh style?

hazy gyro Nov 11, 2019, 1:23 AM

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just a random dude joinin our lobby last night

indigo fern Nov 11, 2019, 1:24 AM

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that just sounds like a bad vpn then vrcThinking

late lily Nov 11, 2019, 1:24 AM

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Yeah, isn’t that the whole point of a vpn lol

fossil root Nov 11, 2019, 1:24 AM

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I may be mistaken, but I believe people getting your IP has to do with using Steam login. Meaning that if you login through your VRChat account instead of using Steam Login. You're not sending your Steam ID to players, and therefore not giving them essentially your IP.

hazy gyro Nov 11, 2019, 1:25 AM

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theres nothin wrong with the vpn

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its one of the better ones out there

fossil root Nov 11, 2019, 1:26 AM

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And it would explain it bypassing the VPN, because Steam IP databases aren't a live thing, so it's their IP from before connecting to the VPN.

indigo fern Nov 11, 2019, 1:26 AM

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yea, its something about the steam id, because some people end up either using the oculus client or closing steam after

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 1:26 AM

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@alpine crater it isnt P2P where are people gettin that info from?

fossil root Nov 11, 2019, 1:27 AM

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You can tell VRChat's IK and voicechat are both on the same server by the fact other players' movement and voice stay synced

late lily Nov 11, 2019, 1:30 AM

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It’s weird steam has an exploit like that. You’d think logins for other games could be exploited as well (in a similar manner). Or is it unique to the VRchat system?

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 1:31 AM

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ive had ik and voice deync entirely

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They definitely arent linked to each other

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 1:31 AM

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Other games do have such issues too

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But in other games Aimbots are good enough

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 1:47 AM

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@fossil root Using steam login or vrchat doesnt matter as long as youre logged in to steam

indigo fern Nov 11, 2019, 1:49 AM

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yea, dont do that

fossil root Nov 11, 2019, 1:49 AM

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read up, to brush up your knowledge of how non peer 2 peer networks work

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and then delete your message out of shame

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@tender shoal Does it work if I set Steam to Offline Mode?

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 1:52 AM

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I doubt it.

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Have never tried it.

fossil root Nov 11, 2019, 1:54 AM

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https://homebrew-on-the-wii-mini.is-pretty.cool/38kZwVz.png

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ezpz

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Well log in with VRC log in

fossil root Nov 11, 2019, 1:54 AM

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that works

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Not steam

fossil root Nov 11, 2019, 1:55 AM

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so, I can have Steam not logged in, but still counting my hours and giving me Steam features in SteamVR, but not risk getting my Steam ID grabbed

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Last time I checked it does not count your hours if you're not logged in.

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If you're gonna have steam logged in either 1. Spoof your steam id, which will not give others your ip or 2. Just run a VPN

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But spoofing your steam ID usually requires a 3rd party software like vrloader or something else.

fossil root Nov 11, 2019, 1:58 AM

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No way in hell I aint modding my client

indigo fern Nov 11, 2019, 1:59 AM

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or if you have oculus use the oculus version

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 1:59 AM

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Isnt that like a 0.01% chance of happening anyways?

indigo fern Nov 11, 2019, 1:59 AM

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more like 5%

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 1:59 AM

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Does it still count your steam hours with oculus?

indigo fern Nov 11, 2019, 1:59 AM

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dont think so

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 1:59 AM

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Oculus isnt Steam

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So no

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 2:00 AM

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We were talking about having it still count the hours

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So I was giving them options for that

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0.01% for what exactly

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 2:00 AM

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Someone actually DDosing you

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Oh nah. People are childish on this game. They'll dos you over any small thing like hiding their avi or muting them

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It doesn't happen a lot but still happens yeah

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Hasnt happened to me yet

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 2:02 AM

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Luckily

indigo fern Nov 11, 2019, 2:02 AM

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nah its not that common

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getting the steam id is, but ddosing not to some random guy

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 2:02 AM

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If you hang out with the right people it won't happen a lot

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 2:03 AM

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That's why I dont think its worth trying so hard to avoid it

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 2:03 AM

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Yeah. I gave up on the whole hiding my ip thing here lately.

indigo fern Nov 11, 2019, 2:04 AM

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its not really hard, just dont have steam open or use oculus if you have one

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 2:04 AM

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I'd recommend hiding it if you need to. Otherwise you're fine

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I only hide it when I notice an influx of dosing

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Like to my ip

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Even then dynamic ip op

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 2:05 AM

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I have a VPN but havent felt like using it for this

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Yeah definitely. Like I said only spoof or run a vpn if needed.

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9/10 you're not gonna need to but there is always that 1 time yknow

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 2:07 AM

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Yeah but apparently there's also forced kicks and people bypassing safety settings

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Or spam blocking someone into nuisance

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Plenty of ways outside of ddosing to ruin your day

halcyon dawn Nov 11, 2019, 2:19 AM

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well yeah, no other game I have played have I worried about this happening to me.

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and in my first time playing vrchat i get ddosed and my ip tracked twice in the course of a few hours so ;/

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Force kick is a thing yes. Bypassing safety settings isn't really what you'd think it is. It's very simple

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As for botting someone down to nuisance I haven't seen it happen yet but have indeed heard of it happening

halcyon dawn Nov 11, 2019, 2:22 AM

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I heard someone talk about force logging people out/forcing there game to crash. That hasnt happened to me tho

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 2:23 AM

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Logging people out is no longer a thing. But crashing games is definitely still a thing and just as easy as the other things.

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Your game crashing is probably the most common thing you'll run in to on this game since it's so easy

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You may think it sounds hard to do but if you ever actually figure out/get told how to it's so simple.

halcyon dawn Nov 11, 2019, 2:28 AM

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im just gonna try to get enough friends so i can just do private worlds and not worry about this bs

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 2:28 AM

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For sure. Public worlds are an option though

indigo fern Nov 11, 2019, 2:29 AM

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i mean, in your average public you wont run into these half the time

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 2:29 AM

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You can turn safety settings on and most people won't be able to crash your game

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Just turn custom animations off and you'll be fine most of the time

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 2:40 AM

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Good god. Neos VR supports eye tracking down to pupil dilation, lol.

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 2:41 AM

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That's crazy

feral hare Nov 11, 2019, 2:44 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK-S5ymVn1g

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 2:44 AM

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I feel like that'd be weird

feral hare Nov 11, 2019, 3:04 AM

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Downloading vr chat to advertise my game.

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Joking looking for people to work as an admin.

vocal shard Nov 11, 2019, 4:28 AM

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hiii

devout island Nov 11, 2019, 4:33 AM

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hi

tall plume Nov 11, 2019, 4:37 AM

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@tender shoal I completely looked past the safety settings in regards to custom animations. Random, but thanks for reminding I guess? 😅

tender shoal Nov 11, 2019, 4:41 AM

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For sure.

vocal shard Nov 11, 2019, 5:01 AM

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hi

blazing lion Nov 11, 2019, 5:09 AM

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Ever just go in a world and then there’s drawn pp’s everywhere

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And then delete vrchat

devout island Nov 11, 2019, 5:30 AM

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thankfully no

molten gale Nov 11, 2019, 5:38 AM

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Ive been pong

dusk grotto Nov 11, 2019, 6:05 AM

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anyone play VRC with an AMD Ryzen 3800X or 3700X how well does it run?

serene plaza Nov 11, 2019, 6:27 AM

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Anyone ever had a flock of birds chase you while screaming at you to sit on their head and lay their eggs?

dusk grotto Nov 11, 2019, 6:40 AM

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kinky

lunar shell Nov 11, 2019, 7:06 AM

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I upgraded to a 3800x.

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@dusk grotto

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I had an i7-6700k and saw improvements. Gpu remains a gtx 1080.

rancid vessel Nov 11, 2019, 7:47 AM

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I need VRChat staff help ASAP.. Someone I suspect a group of people.. Leads me to believe are slandering my name on VRChat. Since they have unfriended me I have seen about 5 people unfriend me. If i e-mail vrchat will they get to the bottom of this or do i need to inform everybody that i am friends with?

snow wadi Nov 11, 2019, 7:50 AM

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Have some images of proof and detail your issue, then you can send your statement to the support section. Take a peek at #vrchat-support for more information.

unborn topaz Nov 11, 2019, 8:10 AM

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hi

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 8:11 AM

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Good day

civic plume Nov 11, 2019, 8:11 AM

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hello

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 8:11 AM

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Hm?

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 9:14 AM

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@rancid vessel Keep in mind that they aren't likely to get involved in school-yard drama, so unless it's particularly vicious and with evidence, I wouldn't expect anyone to get involved.

dusk grotto Nov 11, 2019, 9:29 AM

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yeah... yikes

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anyway, you like dragons @faint skiff ?

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 9:31 AM

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Sure, as you may have guessed 😉

trim pier Nov 11, 2019, 9:56 AM

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hello~

next cypress Nov 11, 2019, 9:57 AM

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When is VrChat going to fix the problem with quest users not being able to see pc avatars

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I also posted this in the quest general but nobody answered xD

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 9:58 AM

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Never, it's not a bug, it's a power/hardware limitation of the Quest.

vocal shard Nov 11, 2019, 9:58 AM

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It's not something that can easily be done. They're not even on the same platform. They said they're working on something, but one on running on PC, and one on Android, so they're encoded differently. Alongside that, there's the spec difference

rigid crescent Nov 11, 2019, 9:59 AM

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I thought they said they'd like to come up with a solution not that they were coming up with one

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at the very least it seemed very much in the "idea" phase the way they talked about it when they mentioned it

vocal shard Nov 11, 2019, 10:01 AM

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 10:01 AM

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Apparently something is in the pipe, but I'd imagine it would require SDK changes because only the compiled version is uploaded to their servers right now, so any form of automatic conversion, even for avatars that technically could be compatible, wouldn't (shouldn't?) be possible as they don't have what's needed to convert it.

snow wadi Nov 11, 2019, 10:30 AM

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The only way I could think of PC/Quest compatibility across the board is by botching the PC version which is out of the question at this point.

ruby needle Nov 11, 2019, 10:31 AM

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A low poly on the fly rebuild would be a possibility

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It isn't only about importing the packages them self, people have issues with 8gb system ram on PC. And 4gb video ram is highly recommended... The quest has 2gb shared ram.

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Not to mention the performance limits of the hardware it self.

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It's impossible to run pc avatars on a quest without any heavier on the fly adjustments. Unless you maybe wanna be in a lobby alone. cirBaka

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 10:36 AM

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@ruby needle Go into Blender with CATS loaded, load your favourite avatar, set the auto-decimator to 7500 and hit go. See just how well that works 😛

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Not to mention you lose all shape-keys in the process too.

hollow sluice Nov 11, 2019, 10:53 AM

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All I ask is for them to at least scale the robotavatar to the size of your real one

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Would be a big improvement tbh

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 10:57 AM

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Yeah, that needs to be universal to be honest, e.g. also do it for performance blocked or hidden avatars.

hollow sluice Nov 11, 2019, 10:58 AM

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Yeah

ruby needle Nov 11, 2019, 10:59 AM

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@faint skiff decimation like that isn't the key to the solution

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Rebuild it like a 3d scan. Or similar

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Else you'll not have a chance to get avatars reliability interpreted at all

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 11:02 AM

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That's an interesting idea, although that definitely wouldn't retain shape-keys or anything.

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 11:14 AM

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@faint skiff If I hide a giant avatar because it is giant, I dont want a giant robo one to replace it

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 11:18 AM

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That's actually a good point. Maybe a cap on the height? Match, unless over 2m.

ruby needle Nov 11, 2019, 11:20 AM

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Sure. Shape keys are a special thing. It's still tons better than the robots

rough pulsar Nov 11, 2019, 11:20 AM

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2.5 meters would be better since that matches with the threshold for vrcPerfExcellent

royal wharf Nov 11, 2019, 11:23 AM

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Hey quick question some worlds on vrchat are not coming up at all. Is something enabled that is not allowing me to see different worlds.

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 11:25 AM

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@royal wharf ESC -> Settings -> Show community labs worlds

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Or something like that

royal wharf Nov 11, 2019, 11:25 AM

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Thanks man much appreciated I’ll give it a shot

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@covert blade

cosmic delta Nov 11, 2019, 12:49 PM

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is there a poly limit for quest avatars?

warped creek Nov 11, 2019, 12:54 PM

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Not yet, but there is a plan to implement several hard limits.
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/quest-content-limitations

tacit plank Nov 11, 2019, 1:38 PM

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I want to write a custom status about myself per the newest update, but I can't find it on the website

rustic schooner Nov 11, 2019, 1:39 PM

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Guys is there a way i can sign into vrchat's website with steam account

crystal fossil Nov 11, 2019, 1:47 PM

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@tacit plank Click your picture.

median mantle Nov 11, 2019, 1:51 PM

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oof

ruby needle Nov 11, 2019, 1:52 PM

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Kinda @cosmic delta 10k polygons are maximum that can show if you increase the performance settings, 7500 is standard.

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@rustic schooner no.

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You can upgrade your steam account tho

tacit plank Nov 11, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Thank you

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The description counts 4byte characters as being single characters, will it break if I enter more than 256? Twitter counts 4byte characters as two

lucid vapor Nov 11, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Huy

vocal shard Nov 11, 2019, 3:22 PM

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lal'

pure hemlock Nov 11, 2019, 4:23 PM

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WTB invite system fixes, missed so many invites last night I am only seeing now on the website

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Oof

pure hemlock Nov 11, 2019, 4:26 PM

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Been happening a lot more frequently the last few days. Dunno if it's because I leave the website open on my internet browser? Is it swallowing up invites while I am in VR?

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Quite possibly, that or you're accidentally on busy?

rough pulsar Nov 11, 2019, 4:30 PM

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The switch to the new system for invites & such, while faster is definitely a lot less reliable than it used to be.

pure hemlock Nov 11, 2019, 4:30 PM

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I have never been on busy once in my life

rough pulsar Nov 11, 2019, 4:31 PM

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I and several friends have had many cases of invites requests never being recieved, or the accepted invite never coming back to the requester.

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And like you just said Yin, none of us were set to busy.

snow wadi Nov 11, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Oh that happens all the time with me, people telling me they sent me an invite and I sit there like

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BJwhat

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Qhala just can't see the requests hidden under the thiccness

rough pulsar Nov 11, 2019, 4:32 PM

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It's why I hang around in Friends/+ instances a lot more. Saves the trouble fucking around with unreliable invites.

snow wadi Nov 11, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Shush you, that theory has not yet been proven.

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@rough pulsar Also hai ❤

rough pulsar Nov 11, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Hi, I haven't slept for almost 24 hours and dinner tastes amazing

snow wadi Nov 11, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Oh that's wonderf-

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I'm sorry, 24hrs?

molten gale Nov 11, 2019, 4:33 PM

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What

snow wadi Nov 11, 2019, 4:33 PM

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LucoaDespair

rough pulsar Nov 11, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Couldn't get to sleep at all last night

snow wadi Nov 11, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Did you have any caffeinated drinks?

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@modern sand BongoWave

rough pulsar Nov 11, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Nope. I know when my cutoff for coffee and such is (10am at the latest) and I haven't had any for a few weeks now.

snow wadi Nov 11, 2019, 4:35 PM

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You could use a very boring story, that should knock your lights out.

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LucoaOkay

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 4:36 PM

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10am?

rough pulsar Nov 11, 2019, 4:36 PM

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I usually wind up having sleep problems around this time of year. Sometimes it sorts itself out, if it gets bad enough I got some stuff to knock me out.

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And yeah, unless I wanna get fucked up I can only reasonably have coffee between waking up and 10am at the latest, otherwise it's unlikely I'll sleep that night.

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Wow

snow wadi Nov 11, 2019, 4:37 PM

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ASqtwow

modern sand Nov 11, 2019, 4:38 PM

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coffee makes me shake so no

rough pulsar Nov 11, 2019, 4:38 PM

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When I've got a week where I can afford to throw everything out of whack I should hop in VRC in the afternoon and chug some coffee with you guys. It'll be entertaining as fuck.

snow wadi Nov 11, 2019, 4:38 PM

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I remember 2 years back I really messed up my sleep pattern.

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I was going to bed at 6am.

rough pulsar Nov 11, 2019, 4:39 PM

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@modern sand Me too. Best cup of coffee I ever had was from some backstreet hipster cafe in san francisco and it was amazing and literally gave me an anxiety attack while I vibrated through the sofa.

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The other option is Matcha but that makes things get real weird.

Need to buy some and have a drink and hop in VR on that. Mmmm 🍵

snow wadi Nov 11, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Why? So you could vibrate while I chat with you? D:

modern sand Nov 11, 2019, 4:41 PM

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macha also tastes like ass

snow wadi Nov 11, 2019, 4:41 PM

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"I-I'm doin-n-n-ng GREAT-T-T!"

modern sand Nov 11, 2019, 4:41 PM

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but i guess i've only ever done tea

rough pulsar Nov 11, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Add a bit of honey, really smooths it out.

snow wadi Nov 11, 2019, 4:41 PM

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I make the best chinese tea in the family.

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ASRyukoSip

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But according to my mum, I can kill someone when I make normal tea.

rough pulsar Nov 11, 2019, 4:42 PM

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Tea flavoured rocket fuel?

snow wadi Nov 11, 2019, 4:42 PM

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I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong with that one.

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I do add 2 PG Teabags in there yes.

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ASlmao

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Guess I'm the only one doing "2 bag" builders tea here then.

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If it's not gone clay red, it needs more time.

snow wadi Nov 11, 2019, 4:43 PM

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I always make my tea with 2.

modern sand Nov 11, 2019, 4:44 PM

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Might as well put the bags in your mouth Enverex

snow wadi Nov 11, 2019, 4:44 PM

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lol

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@modern sand I henlo'd you but the message flew by.

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403648711780990977

faint skiff Nov 11, 2019, 4:45 PM

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@modern sand How very dare you

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-hfZqbZtT6E/hqdefault.jpg

rough pulsar Nov 11, 2019, 4:47 PM

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If you're not sucking the last of the tea straight out of the bags you're doin' it wrong 😆

snow wadi Nov 11, 2019, 4:47 PM

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I'll get on VRC for a bit, I owe someone a visit.

pale timber Nov 11, 2019, 4:59 PM

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chew on the tea bags

vocal shard Nov 11, 2019, 5:55 PM

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boo?

dusk mesa Nov 11, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Coffee makes you shake 🤔

supple bison Nov 11, 2019, 6:04 PM

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🐝

delicate oasis Nov 11, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Hello

plush nymph Nov 11, 2019, 6:08 PM

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what is sleep

delicate oasis Nov 11, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Hi

mighty nest Nov 11, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Downing a orange flavored energy drink is my morning ritual. 200mg Caffeine mmm.

delicate oasis Nov 11, 2019, 6:10 PM

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........

vocal shard Nov 11, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Does anyone know how I can get the Mech

vestal pier Nov 11, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Specific

vocal shard Nov 11, 2019, 8:59 PM

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boo

steep turret Nov 11, 2019, 10:24 PM

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👻

wild stag Nov 11, 2019, 10:55 PM

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i dont like crowded rooms in vrchat

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it makes me feel overwhelmed

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just like in real life

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 11:39 PM

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Random question: If I so happen to show someone's avatar and they crash me, or if I so happen to friend someone and they crash me with an avatar, how would I deal with that problem? Assuming it happened randomly and I don't know who it was

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And just to clarify, no I don't have that problem, yet. But I was thinking about the theoretical possibility of something like this happening and I was wondering how one would go about this

lunar cedar Nov 11, 2019, 11:43 PM

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https://www.vrchat.com/home/playermoderations

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 11:43 PM

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Yeah but, I can't undo just Show Avatar

lunar cedar Nov 11, 2019, 11:43 PM

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For doing show avatar on someone, it would be there

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 11:43 PM

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I also dont think I can undo anything avatar at all there

lunar cedar Nov 11, 2019, 11:43 PM

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Well, you could block

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just not block avatar

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 11:43 PM

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Assuming I know who it was

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That's the thing, let's assume I was just crashed despite safety settings

lunar cedar Nov 11, 2019, 11:44 PM

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If you crash and go right there, they'll be number one. If you didn't show avatar, then you'll have to go through the fun task of searching the logs

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Probably near the bottom though

feral hare Nov 11, 2019, 11:45 PM

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Vr chat is halirious.

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Hmm, will they be? I mean what if I show someone's avatar and then a month later we meet again and he's doing bad things now

lunar cedar Nov 11, 2019, 11:47 PM

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Ah, that would require searching through logs. I might actually do a clear of my list now that you mention that problem

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437 actions about to disappear

feral hare Nov 11, 2019, 11:48 PM

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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

lunar cedar Nov 11, 2019, 11:48 PM

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oh wait, the blocks are there too

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There needs to be a filtered delete for everything but blocks

feral hare Nov 11, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Da queen.

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Yeah see the problem?

feral hare Nov 11, 2019, 11:51 PM

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You are da queen.

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Sure you could undo everything but then everyone you blocked will also be unblocked

feral hare Nov 11, 2019, 11:51 PM

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*Tongue clicking noice in the back ground

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Da quenn.

covert blade Nov 11, 2019, 11:51 PM

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There's people who block so casually that it doesn't really matter because they likely just blocked for fun but, the ones I've blocked I really don't wanna come across again

feral hare Nov 11, 2019, 11:52 PM

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JAke da qWUEENES

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JAke da qWUEENESJAke da qWUEENESJAke da qWUEENESJAke da qWUEENESJAke da qWUEENES

lunar cedar Nov 11, 2019, 11:54 PM

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Assuming their API to delete playermoderations isn't super hidden, it could probably be locally filtered then sent, but that wouldn't be as good as a real graphql query

feral hare Nov 11, 2019, 11:55 PM

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Jake...

lunar cedar Nov 11, 2019, 11:55 PM

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Yea same, I try to keep blocks to who ever really needs. Block avatars and mute for the rest

covert blade Nov 12, 2019, 12:00 AM

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Yeah but still, I wonder if one day me showing someone's avatar will be problematic in the future somehow

rigid crescent Nov 12, 2019, 12:00 AM

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in what way

covert blade Nov 12, 2019, 12:00 AM

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If they decide to eventually use a bad avatar and because it's shown it bypasses all my safety settings :X

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Sure I could just, not show someone's avatar if I don't trust them

rigid crescent Nov 12, 2019, 12:01 AM

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You'll be minorly inconvenienced for 2 minutes while you relog

shell zinc Nov 12, 2019, 12:01 AM

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you'd prob just get crashed and then never see them again, or you have time to react and hide it

rigid crescent Nov 12, 2019, 12:01 AM

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that's about it

covert blade Nov 12, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Hmm yeah.

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Now imagine if someone on my friends list would do that >_>

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I'd have the fun of my life collecting log files to see which person was always present every time it happened

rigid crescent Nov 12, 2019, 12:01 AM

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You'll be minorly inconvenienced for 2 minutes while you unfriend them

shell zinc Nov 12, 2019, 12:01 AM

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then you delete them

covert blade Nov 12, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Assuming I know it was them

frosty veldt Nov 12, 2019, 12:02 AM

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I wouldn't assume that people that actually talk to you long enough to show their avatar would eventually crash you

shell zinc Nov 12, 2019, 12:02 AM

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i mean if a friend does it to you chances are they wont be going to hang out with you often

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and if they do and you get crashed a lot well there's your answer

covert blade Nov 12, 2019, 12:02 AM

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I mean I dunno, it's really just a "What if" scenario rather than something that actually happened

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I managed to crash SteamVR at one point though.... :X

rigid crescent Nov 12, 2019, 12:02 AM

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I can't say I've ever been crashed by anyone who I've shown, and I show quite a few people. Most of them I've met through friends or friends of friends etc, so they're usually "socially vetted"

shell zinc Nov 12, 2019, 12:02 AM

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it's just a big what if

covert blade Nov 12, 2019, 12:02 AM

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Yeah

tropic thicket Nov 12, 2019, 12:02 AM

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is that when they make themselves a giang green thing that fills your view?

covert blade Nov 12, 2019, 12:03 AM

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I'm not exactly sure it's always green but, kind of?

tropic thicket Nov 12, 2019, 12:03 AM

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ahhh

frosty veldt Nov 12, 2019, 12:04 AM

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If you are blinded by someone or being deafened from something loud you can always go into the panic mode to make it stop

covert blade Nov 12, 2019, 12:05 AM

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I once went into panic mode after SteamVR crashed and forgot that I did it

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So I joined a friend only to wonder why the hell everyone was muted and hidden

tropic thicket Nov 12, 2019, 12:05 AM

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that's good to know. Some douches were doing this in the vrchat hub 2 days ago but there was no sound and for some reason it didn't crash me

covert blade Nov 12, 2019, 12:05 AM

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They'd walk up to me and wave their hand in front of my face probably wondering why I had them muted too

frosty veldt Nov 12, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Yeah I've had panic mode on and forgotten, wish it had a UI element to let you know youre in it

covert blade Nov 12, 2019, 12:07 AM

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I mean there's a huge text displayed on your screen that you activated it

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But since it is pretty much just Custom Safety with everything turned off, it's not really its own mode

indigo fern Nov 12, 2019, 12:08 AM

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Feels bad, accidentally pressing it and having to redo your custom safety settings again

covert blade Nov 12, 2019, 12:09 AM

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Yeaah, but then again it doesn't take that long anyways

frosty veldt Nov 12, 2019, 12:09 AM

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Pretty sure the huge text dissapears after a little which is then when I promptly forget. Really not that big of a deal though

covert blade Nov 12, 2019, 12:09 AM

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I use the same settings across all ranks except friends so, that makes it really easy to remember

indigo fern Nov 12, 2019, 12:09 AM

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It does disappear yea

covert blade Nov 12, 2019, 12:09 AM

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Tick the exact same settings for each rank

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But at the same time I usually run around with safety off mostly >_>