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Everything in there
I was told the lag was insane
But I am wondering. How Hard was it to become a creator so you could promote yourself there too
Oh good, what a shame
I think it was through a lotto type thing
Mhm
Because there was another world of people who didn't make it
I miss this one creator
idk how to do modeling so im soI
He had a booth in vket1 and 2, all he has was a piece of bread
Its my only source of income so that exposure could have been nice
Next event will probably make it easier for non-english speaknig artists to get in
Yea, they expanded a hell of a lot this time
Though there's not that many active in the VRC community, definitely not enough to fill a world but hopefully they're able to work something out, maybe a world dedicated to it just so its easier
Why subject Yourself to Lack of income?
Can't wait to see all the MMD kitters turned down though lol
There was a IRL crossover with a clothing line and all their vket3 merch sold pretty gud, the designs looked so nice too
I wanna see more real products to buy
I'm hoping the main creator I like has something else, maybe a new outfit or more accessories. since their main piece they've only released a pair of shoes
im definatly disappointed that vrchat isn't What it used to be in terms of played count and amount of playability the quest inclusion was nice but it doesn't seem like it was enough
Playercount doesn't matter much at this stage, most of those people were just numbers
The peak play count was just unhealthy, I think if we had those numbers now it was still be bad
What really sucks is how many are in privates
Uh, doing the deeds
I'd much rather hand a few thousand "real" players than the tens of thousands rampart idiots we had then lol
What do you mean just numbers?
They were literally just people here for the meme
People just logging in for like a couple minutes to meme ye
simply numbers, not "real" players
Mic, I agree
The people who stayed, continued to join, and still stayed are the ones that mattered in the end anyway, basically the majority of people we have now
Yeah, the moment got old quick
I mean, if servers allow it, vrc is almost always at a concurrent 4k-6k
Weekends get up to 9k
One of the matches of werewolf I played today was a joke and being in pug pub was almost as bad as when the game was at its peak player counts
I hate how many people have an anime girl avatar
Go to the box, that's a different beast altogether ๐
I haven't heard go things about that room or the void
What's in there?
It's one of the main club like worlds, so you can get dancing, but most of the time mirror watchers
I want to get the pig pub popular. It's the pug pub but minecraft
Black cat is pretty decent
@lyric sphinx why subject myself to a lack of income?
Well Simple. I am not the legal age to work yet
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How old even are you?
16
Not in Slovakia

im sure you could find something to do, i "couldnt" work at 14 here in Sweden but i still sold strawberries outside stores
Good night guys, I need sleep, lol
@boreal violet yeah I had a job for 2 years in a super market. IT payed 20โฌ a month. Which was pretty fucking shit so after I saved up for a PC i left because it was too much work for that kind of pay
Nevervfound a better offer
And I looked believe mรฉ
That sounds pretty shit unless you were working like two hours a month
6 hours a Day waking up at 4am
(tho i have no idea about slovakian economics)
They are shit but electronics are more expensive than in US here
yeah i just looked up the big mac index, you are about on par with us swedes
performance electronics are expensive everywhere
Ouch
The rift s about 800 iirc
Double ouch
Luckly I got my HTC for around 300โฌ used
I was going to say, look into getting them second hand from another country at those prices. Full Vive kits are only around ยฃ260 here.
Well I am happy that the avatar making is making me enough to soon afford fbt
Oh nice
Well done
Full creation, kit bashing, or just minor changes?
imma guess kitbash from the profile pic lol
Profile pic is just a straight Subcom avatar from what I can tell.
which is why im guessing kitbash. if i did anything from scratch and had my avatar as my profile pic it definitely wouldn't be of a wolfboy lol
Haha. I mean my avatar picture is from an old Amiga game, so I'm not assuming someone's profile picture is really related to what they do or what they use in-game.
that would make sense if it wasnt an avatar to begin with
it's like if mine was just some random model i found a pic of
Could be ironic...
a stretch but i guess

A way to make me feel bad about my pfp. Thanks
i mean you're the one who feels bad about it, all i did was guess
But for now I do kitbashimg and a few custom clothing from scratch. Thats why I have a pay what you want policy. Everyone feels different about the effort that goes in to it. I am learning sculpting though so I might make a New base from scratch. Not just clothing
I've had several people insist on paying me for making their avatars, but they're friends so I'd feel bad and refuse.
ah. kitbashing 
Everyone starts somewhere. I have only been doing modeling for 1 month
im just not a fan because kitbashing for comms usually means selling stolen stuff
usually.
Well yeah. Ppl usually just pay for the work

But I sometimes dont see the point in modeling from scratch. For example. Why bother making another anime male base when theres already one out there that Will probably look better than yours anyways
I prefer from scratch because I get to be a character that doesn't exist in 3D form at all.
:3
Why are some of the times on vrchat website for when friends were last online so off?
Well yes but IF my character is gonna Be an anime male I might as well just Save myself the time
@snow wadi Yes, but you're also throwing obscene amounts of money at it ๐
Uuuh not quite.
Really? I'd have thought all your ones you had made would have cost a fortune
I work with 2 modelers, one that charges alot but they get it done within a week, and another that charges less but it takes them about 4 months to complete.
And I commission the modeler that is suitable for the task, for example the next model I commissioned is a snek and only one of them could get her right.
And no it;s not who you think it is xD
Snek boy I wish
mmhmmm
I am making that now
Because one of those modellers seemed to be charging around $400 for what just seemed to be some minor texture changes and emissions (e.g. the shark ones, which are quite popular now).
Oh no that's not the same guy then xD
The one I commission is actually an expert in snakes and aeromorphs.
I'm not sure I'd ever be happy commissioning something though as I don't think I could ever get it perfect and I'd not be in a position to modify it myself, so I stick with just bodging it together because at least then I can keep working on it and haven't paid for anything.
lol, the one you commission is a balloon artist ๐
Are you talking about the one that made Qhala for me?
I'm not sure if he's the one that makes the shark ones, I'm probably thinking of someone else for that. I was referring to your usual taste in... exaggerated characters.
Yeah the guy I speak of didn't make a shark yet >_>
My brain made the connection to balloons the other day and now I can't get it out of my head.
Well there are balloons that they make after all
One of my friends learnt blender just to add huge balloons to the nanach characters lol
That's... not quite what I mean.
lmao
Hideo Kojima just bought an Index, should get him into VRChat, lel
I'd love to have my tail be contiguous to the body, but that would require making the hips much wider and I'm not sure the avatar's armature would then fit well with my RL body. Compromises are unfortunate but necessary until we have some sort of neural link.
imo i dont really like the feature where you have to do stuff to get your avatar ;-;
God I hope I live long enough to see that
Much as I don't like Sao, I'd love that sort of tech
what's sao?
Sword Art online
"Do stuff"?
Do you mean play long enough to get the rank you need, or using unity to upload it
using unity
... how would you propose we do it differently?
I personally, like working with unity
That timelock is in place to stop people just making new accounts and then uploading lots of malicious or generally bad things.
Also to ensure that people are at least slightly active before being able to use server space to store avatars.
Baldi is already in game and public
wait really
It shouldnt affect new people really, because you first get to know the game, then see what possibilites there are to make a custom avatar and when you finally start making one you're already a new user
What's Baldi?
Yes. I'm assuming you found him on VRCM. You can guarantee that everything on that site is already in game, probably in multiple different places.
Just have a look around some avatar worlds. Probably worth starting with Rum Ham's avatar world
ok
Sadly I cant use avatar worlds without waiting literally half an hour for every avatar and preview picture to load because of my internet :/
:(
I wish it was possible to optimize VRC for slower internet connections, but the only way is to make worlds and avatars smaller and that means less content. I dont want that
i dont think worlds or avatars need to be particulalry large since actual .fbx models are surprisingly light and you can compress textures in unity to a ridiculous amount
yeah ok
my avatar is about 20mb big... (after I exported it from blender by "optimizing" it)
then again ive never worked on a world before, but if you already keep your stuff to an alright standard (like say 69k tris every avatar) i think the big space killer is audio amd video
jegus 0~0
no wait, that was this one meme avatar. my optimized avatar is 6mb
that sounds more like it
Rum's avatar world should be tiny. The world itself consists of almost nothing and the avatar pedestals are just the small profile picture images.
i tried looking and i couldn't find the baldi avatar
@quasi summit Try this - vrchat://launch?ref=vrchat.com&id=wrld_27e5c733-1531-4a8d-842f-94a8839206de:1567~invite-plus
my friends sometimes go to avatar worlds, to get ideas for custom avatars. I dont really want to join them then, because they use an avatar and then it loads 5-10 minutes for me but by that time they already switched to the next one. And that happens over and over unitl I got 30mins worth of avatars to download...
@slow halo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVWOcEptfO8
ok
It's one of those weird "stream of consciousness" games made by a single person.
I have to admin, the "get out while you still can" bit makes me laugh.
So when you click the pedestal, nothing happens?
Weird. I'm not at home to test right now unfortunately.
But yeah, it should be this one AFAIK - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLZv2Qw_lpE
I doubt it's Quest only, Quest doesn't allow for audio and that guy was streaming with a green-screen.
Hey guys
Hello
Hi
What's new?
Yes, I've started to play it recently and out of curiousity I gave in to the Discord promotion
the discord is actually pretty good
So far it's peaceful; I like it =v=b
it is good, i havent met anyone who makes it feel like a burrden for asking a question
A burden??
Can you add an example?
Welcome to the server
Hello! ovo/

ovo? You're not Qhala... hmmmmmm
Nice to meet you, I'm Nik
I can be called whatever similar =v=b
Dost thou have beakage?
beakage??
(a beak)
e-eh;; nno -v-;;???
no need for an eexample but i've been plenty of places wheee people try to make itt out as i'm lazyfor asking questions
oh ovo! okay
I thought "ovo" was the bird emote, because the o's are eyes the the v is supposed to be the beak.
lol
does any one know how to fix worlds not downloading
I just use it cause people felt uncomfortable when I use owo
I like being 'somewhat' expressing when I can on text -v-;;

Could use uwu instead, haha.

tru-

I need to get off this bed ._.
spread your wings and fly away
why even use uwu though,it's kind of cringe
w = fox/dog nose, v = bird nose. Not sure what I'd use for a Dragon nose...

Let's maybe bring this channel back to topic. ^^
okay, so then does anyone know where i can find beatles avatars?
they exist
someone eles said that there are yellow submarine avatars he saw
@lyric sphinx Doesn't look like they're in a public world. This guy's the author though so I'd just ask him - https://www.reddit.com/user/SpoonTheBlueDude
that's a good idea
yo, i don't wanna annoy anyone but does SOMEONE have the skipper zooming in avatar?
i need it really bad rn xD
Nah sounds malicious
LOL
I always saw the v in ovo to be angry owl eyebrows, not a beak
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quick question, how do i attach a status to my account or discord to my account? on vrchat website i see status's but no way to ad them,
you change your vrc status in-game
to display that you are playing vrc, you go into discord settings > game activity and add vrc if its not shown
thx bro
I'm sort of new to VRC, will there be any improvements to the VRC Desktop client?
Most likely
hey my friend got an email that they can already publish models and worlds, but they only have 63 minutes of gameplay. i have 4 hours, but i cant publish any of my models yet. im just curious if theres something i can do to help me gain the ability to publish?
its not time based
ah
Just go around meet people and just play the game tbh
ok
We don't know exactly how it works, but it seems to be more based on activity than time. So exploring and meeting new people will probably get you there faster than being in a private instance with just a couple people
I prefer that answer than the subjectively annoying copy pasta
Stuff * Time = Rank
Yeah, I got New User, but I only have 6 hours in the game on my steam account, I don't think I'd even used my VRC account until today
You can merge the accounts btw, which you should if you havent
i was curious how many got the rift s here for VRChat
over the quest
im not sure what to get >-<
most of all i want the quest but it's really annoying i won't be able to see non quest skins and non quest worlds
Rift S is the better choice for PCVR. Unless you intend to be away from your PC a lot, the Quest has no real benefits.
yea but the hand tracking in 2020 sounds amazing
I'm guessing you didn't look into it much
Hand tracking is useless in 99% of scenarios which is why it never caught on in the first place also It'll only work in a tiny area infront of the headset (as it has to be seen by all 4 cameras).
hmm i see
Hand tracking existed (in a more accurate form) back with the Leap Motion, but people quickly realise that having just your hands and nothing else is actually incredibly limiting.
yeah having your hands makes locomotion almost impossible
Once you look at the limitations, it won't be very exciting.
its more for non-gamers who arent used to controllers to use in a small environment
its not gonna have any real effect on gaming
It's not nice not having anything in your hands and yeah, lack of any way to locomote, etc.
Too bad its on a headset with almost only games (the quest)
im going for the rift s then :3 thanks for helping me out :3
The quest hand tracking has latency and only works when all 4 cameras can see your hands anyway
hello
Enough that it's a noticable disconnect from immersion some say.
I thought I won't be able to chat here because I have to use phone to approve?
You have the vrchatter role, so that overrides the phone verification
lmao thats bad then
Yeah everyone has to get approved. The phone verification is kind of redundant. Lol
I just dont want to use it, because I've lost access to phone with all my accounts that had to be verified to access
so no more phone.

This bot
Yeah
what do I need to read?
ya yeet goes the bot

what does account merging do, exactly?
is classical art (marble sculptures etc) subject to nsfw rules?
because it certainly is safe for work in the literal sense
It transfers your stats and friends from a steam account and adds them to a vrchat account.
k thx
@potent cedar Almost sure it would be subjected to the rules. But only way to be sure is to email hello@vrchat.com about this though
- you get to choose a new username without numbers after
Hi, guys. Can you help me? I am looking for this character. I am so desperate. People who know this character help me. I will reward you.
I want you to watch Avatar Chatting 
so I haven't played vrchat for like a year and came back to it again. I noticed that everything takes a while to start downloading. like if I join a world it takes a while for avatars to start downloading or if I go to avatars menu it takes a minute for anything to appear
@grave spoke I am having the same issue as well
I've been playing for a year now and this never happened to me before
it is like I am stuck in loading for going from chatroom to another
so it's not an issue with my side then ๐ค
Yea I thought it had to do with my connection but I am connecting fine from my phone and on Steam
hmm my girlfriend just got vrchat and it works perfectly fine for her. so it is an issue on my side. I'll try reinstalling the game competely to see if that helps
I tried to log in as well through steam but still nothing.
there were moments where it brought me to a place and it told me that "Vr chat is have some issues" or something like that
Hello, could someone help me find a avatar please? I have a picture of it it's a avatar I used to use and I would like to find it again
What's it look like, could you DM me what the avatar looks like?
Yes I can do that thank you ๐
Imagine being elitist about vrchat
It's a free to play game where men pretend to be anime waifus. The majority of the game play is standing around in a loose circle and having inane conversations like it's highschool all over again
There is nothing to be elitist about
I mean, I don't doubt there's a silly group out there that thinks that way
Unless of course you've got proof.
But seeing as there's kinetic members that aren't going to be in the rewind because they don't meet the requirements, I'm pretty sure you're just talking out your ass
in b4 "I mean my friend said..." or "I just heard..."
ok?
It's a stream team. Again, any proof of your claim or is it just bs you heard/made up
I mean he's still a person? I don't think he streams but i also don't see how that even matters.
Ah, so you "Heard from a friend"
so basically there's no proof
hearing, sorry. So again, no proof?
What you PROBABLY heard was that the Rewind has certain requirements that have to be met to be included in it.
Complaining is fine, don't sprea lies and misinformation though
I mean it is.
I'm looking at the requirements right now for Youtube Rewind
and none of them include any statement by Kinetic
Sorry, VRC Rewind
Yeah, looking at the VRC requirements right now and none include a statement by Kinetic
the rewind does have certain requirements for streamers and youtubers that don't apply to prominent mapmakers and avatar makers
Unwritten...I mean the requirements do include a following for Streamers and Youtubers...
It's written lol
Current Requirements: Youtuber's need 10,000 Subscribers Twitch Streamers need 2,000 Followers Map Makers/Avatar Creators/Artist/Musicians need to show Prominent Work Communities are short and spread, please contact Neko directly.
its bullshit
thats what it is. its not about the community at that point its about clout
I mean it really isn't. It makes sense you need to be at least relatively known to be in the rewind if it's as a streamer or a youtuber
You don't need a following to be incldued as an avatar or world creator?
Except you ARE allowed to be in it without a following
Again, world and avatar creators
"prominent work"
Yes? There's world creators with "prominent work" that don't have a large following the way streamers and youtubers do?
I streamed VRC like 3 times or something, and I've got a private avatar world i got tired of working on. Why should I be in the rewind? lol
I doubt world creators wanna be in it anyway, what's lex gonna do, lay there lmao
yet when i asked the person who's running the whole thing about my friend who made over 100+ of the 0turan models he responded with "who???"
Yeah, who? lol
he doesn't know anything about the community. if you're going to do something for the community you should know about the community.
the last one had plenty of community members that do world and avatar stuff tho
Him not knowing one dude who made some eromanga sensei mmd kitbashes doesn't equal him not knowing about the community lol
Oh, they belittled them? How? By not knowing who they were?
Seems like a stretch 
Now you're REALLY stretching, come on now
There's nothing wrong with asking who someone is in an informal matter lol
I mean I care about people spreading misinformation and being disingenuous yeah
there's enough of that going around, but I guess it's fine because you'll just disappear and never come back and it'll all be good lol ๐
I didn't contradict myself, I said from the start there's requirements as well. What was untrue is the fact you said a Kinetic member stated you "Are not allowed to play or be a part of vrchat" if you don't have a certain following
unless of course there's proof
So just to clarify, a Kinetic Stream Team member said "If you don't have X following you aren't allowed to play or be a part of vrchat"?
I just wanna make sure we're on the same page
So this is....what? Third hand information? Seems like a game of telephone. You heard from someone who heard from someone who heard from the person running it that a Kinetic Stream Team Member said that people shouldn't "be allowed to play or be a part of vrchat unless they have a certain following"?
Oh so two degrees my mistake
I guess you could just @vague meteor assuming he's the one still working on it like last year
He'd probably tell you if it's true or not 
Sup?
Dunno, someone is saying you said that only people with a following are allowed to play or be a part of vrchat 
Oh I did did I?
I dunno man I've only met you around friends but that seems out of character 
@rocky blaze i dunno, it seems fair to hear both sides of the story is all, don't you think?
Some things tend to get lost in a game of telephone, so hearing it from the source would clear things up 
Oh right you said Tess said it didn't you
So Elen said that Tess said that Neko said that Kinetic said that only people with a following should get to play/be a part of VRChat. That's the gist of what I understand. It's kind of just a meme at this point but fun nonetheless

Alright I read and caught up on the situation
@rigid crescent Thanks for being logical and the smart about things
Yeah it usually makes people mad, so it's more fun that way ๐
Also @rocky blaze Elen you said, "tbh i dont really care at this point i have better things to be doing instead of arguing about something pointless that doesn't affect me nor am i the one that said this in the first place" but you said this in the first place?
4:54 PM] elen: so apparently there is a community in vrchat called "team kinetic" that are saying if you dont have a certain following on vrchat you are not allowed to play or be part of vrchat or the vrchat rewind video
As for @thick blaze I'm ashamed that you went to the nearest person and started making assumptions based on the word "Who" I'll love to have you on the Rewind, but it breaks my heart that you're making such strides to bad mouth me.
So wait, the whole thing was a misunderstanding!?
Well dang what are the odds to that. Certainly not something I'd be against but....
What the hell is even going on
just smile and nod
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whoa the insider meme paid off
I think I'm just going to avoid everyone who was involved in the above nonsense as much as I can. Ain't nobody got time for that kind of drama
it'll likely never come up again, just your usual passerby situation where someone comes in, spergs out, gets called out for it, and is never heard from again

what? mine?
yes
just a moment
if they take comms i gotta add them to my mental list of people to give money to ๐คค
the waiting game, im used to that
ty
One thing I'm curious about the VRdoom world
Is there a Military Base level? (E1M9)
That should be the last level I believe, as the shareware is the first 9 levels of the full game (unless they changed them around).
listen, there could easily be several hundred people who want to be featured in the VRChat rewind video if they were given the chance
Nekobueno is ONE man handling the entire production himself, there has to be SOME cutoff for the people being let into the project
I mean, there's always the option of people making their own Rewind. Not as if it's official and only one is allowed anyway. People did it with the Official youtube one when they weren't happy with it. Oh, wait. That's work, people only want to complain and hope they get their way 

I mean there's valid complaints about this game, extremely valid ones. Not exactly a fair comparison, but I guess I get what you mean
I mean there's probably valid complaints about the rewind, nothing is perfect, but "My friend that I really like can't get in" isn't really a good one lol
i was just make the "just make your own game 4head" joke
thats usually what everyone says when theyre tired of reading the same complaints
we should just sew our own clothes and craft our own shoes and grow and cook our own food so i never have to hear anyone complain about something stupid again. that's the perfect world for me
honestly tho?
minus the work it requires 
the least valid complaint i see a lot of the time goes something along the lines of "i miss the old vrc" or "vrc would be so much better without this outgroup" or "something something why arent people nice"
i mean, we could be making our own english version of vket and getting that sponsor money
but here we are, typing away
its a bit like complining about why your town doesnt think like you or the entire world for that matter; vrc can never have a specific kind of community because it is not a game or topic that people revolve around, it is a platform for social interaction, much like how a library or park or a fucking bench serves the same purpose
i mean, we get random complaints about performance issues on a toaster, world wont load fuck this, social menu isnt updating, memory leaks, video player blah
oh, servers being unstable cant log in ree
and then end it all with, fix your game
if youre gonna complain about the "community" not being to youre liking then youre looking at it from an unrealistic perspective; you build that community, or find it, or surround yourself in it much like you would in real life
from the sounds of it, a lot of people have horrible luck/rng
That's what I always try and tell people. You can, within reason ,do anything any other community member can do. it may take more work, but it's not like it's a massive undertaking.
there's nothing wrong with the "community" at this point because the idea of the entire vrc community (population is a more accurate word) being united by any common characteristic more than just the fact that everyone plays vrc disappeared as soon as the meme explosion happened
im not even sure how they supposedly run into so many bad lobbies honestly
Some people's opinions of "good" lobbies are also extremely exaggerated, not to mention there are people who flat out lie
I don't spend a majority of my time in publics, but the time I do spend is never so volatile that I'd say the state of publics in VRC is completely unplayable as they make it
i mainly spend my time in publics, its never bad, at the worst its kinda boring and i just move to the next one
for me a lobby is good if i can make it good. i try to be very vocal in public lobbies not just for myself but forthe other 7 lurkers who are shy but want to open up. its hard most days tho, and thaats on me more than anyone else
if i really wantd to put on the clown make up id say that my only real complaint with public lobbies is that thet could use more loud or open people. and no, loud doesnt mean run up to people and scream memes for your stream.
I personally enjoy going to public worlds, and the majority of them are fun and i make a lot of cool friends. Yes, you have a higher chance of getting crashed or running into someone doing something inappropriate, but that's just the internet. Plus it doesn't always happen frequently either.
yea, i mean i can just go up to the mirror, ask whats goin on and usually anyone with a mic goes ahead and fills me in on the convo
yeah its super cool
i love that i can literally walk up to anyone in a convo and be like hey whats up and immediatley be able to join
thats what i mean whenever i say literally just talk
plus i meet a lot of ppl who are new to vrc in publics, its so much fun to talk to them and show them around
people arent gonna bite half the time
yeah hahahah
i like you're wording there because you're free of the interesting phenomenon where a lot of vrc peeps focus too much on the concepts of "ingroups" and "outgroups" in general when playing this game. there's nothing wrong with that, of course, but there is a problem when you start trying to apply it to reality rather than use it as an abstraction
a lot of people dont like pubs but they have a special place in my heart hahha. they're so, classic vrchat lol
and you can easily tell who isnt interested if its like 5 boys fighting for a single girls attention or something similar
even them, you can have a little fun with
im one of those people who goes into public more often with a friend to talk to them, but its more out of mild social anxiety than anything; it makes it a lot easier for me to greet people and get then in on a convo or join a diff one if a buddy is with me on most days
above all else i love getting new people to open up, followed by getting them to feel welcome
its either way for me, the main friend i play with likes to troll a lot so i joke around with him, alone i can meet pretty dope people
I've got pretty low tolerance for assholes in public, and in general, and it's EXTREMELY easy to just block/mute people
thats totally fair! thats what i love about this game, you dont have to go into a public lobby with strangers if you dont want to. if you just want to go to a friends world and invite some new people to that and introduce them to everyone, you can do that too!
yeah im not shy with just blocking people lol.
and yeah. the rare egirl 4d tug-o-war is fun to watch sometimes. not for too long tho
If there's someone who's jsut 100% intolerable, like I can tel lt hey're just there to cause trouble, a quick block/mute/hide will make sure i literally never see them ever again
dude all of my world playlists have lists of fun shit for me to throw visitors into. ykno, like "zoo" and og sleepy time worlds
mostly genuinely fun worlds tho
Publics just have a bad stigma that sadly got spread around. If more decent people populated them, there'd be more decent people in them. Instead people hide because their crappy MMD kitbash might get "stolen" or they might have to block a few people or be mildly inconvenience. From what I can tell they're really not as bad as anyone I hear talk about them make them seem to be
this game is an incredible gift that a lot of people dont give enough credit to, even if its kinda loopy from base layer to top
publics are honestly what you make them out to be
not even kidding, you can bet on 9 / 10 people being in a given public world wanting to just meet new people
most people I hear with the "ew publics" sentiment haven't even been in more than one or two in months either
that 10th person usually sets the tone, becayse thats the person who has the lowest / none anxiety and gets the ball rolling
yeah some people overexagerate, but also some times they just had some bad experiences. I know as a streamer I've been targeted a lot in publics, and people will follow me through publics and crash me. I've been crashed over 7 times in a 30 minute period. That was a pretty bad experience tho, but it doesnt stop me from dstill going into publics, and most of the time my experiences arnet like that. But some ppl would just swear off publics from that experience
i have a secret government agenda every time i go into a public world if im feeling confident; first, i become that 10th person, then, i turn as many people as i can in that world to the 10th person in any future worlds they go to. it just makes me feel good
and even they are kinda fun to talk with before the glorious goddess of an egirl shows up
which is anyone that sounds remotely female
Avatar yoinking, unless you have a truly custom model, should be the least of your worries anyway. Stolen parts stolen by someone else to make another stolen model.
Yeah, as a streamer or anyone "well known" enough you'll have a different experience, that's just a fact. Most people aren't streamers and even ones that are aren't big enough to really have any issues with being targeted unless some rando just happens to be looking through twitch for someone to bug
the most you have to be worried about when going into public worlds is yourself if ur like me. sometimes youre not chad enough to speak up. if you are, your next valid concern is genuine assholes which are pretty rare (and surprisingly more common in f+ worlds)
^^^exactly. what ive found a lot of times is that streamers will have those experiences, then talk about them and their viewers will think it'll be the same experience for them. That's why i like to show ppl that for the most part, its completely okay and you can have a ton of fun.
I just jump into people's conversations uninvited, they're usually cool with it tho lol
ive gotten dragged into so many crazy adventures from pubs
yesss thats so fun to do mic!
i 100% appreciate random convo invasion
same lol
hey:)
its fun to have more ppl to talk to!
its like...the new protagonist appears
hey @lofty mortar!
hey, whats up. literally tried playing vrchat and its so laggy on my laptop so annoying
mann i really shouldve made time for vrc today.
oh noo! have you tried turning saftey settings on? ive found turing off dynamic bones, as well as just making it so you can only see everyones avatars and voices and nothing else helps a lot
turning off nameplates can help too!
When you start the game, hold Shift to open the settings window, and set it to desktop low. The default setting is high
lol, and uhm nah, i uninstalled it but am conemplating get it tmr.
Oooo i forgot about that jamie ty!
oh okay
What does that even do? I did it a year ago and never really looked into it lol
im thinking of getting in vr in a bit actually~
The main thing is is lowers the anti-aliasing, shadows, and draw distance.
i should make bad decisions and just get in vr rn
Lowh u smell
fortnite is so toxic. tried to join squads/ playgrounds and these little kids are swearing and complainging about dying. these parents need to listen to their kids.
i used to go to bed for school at like 5am for 8th grade, can't be any worse as a senior
hmm
@exotic void excuse me? smh you're the old man, what are you even doing in here smh
lol XD
as if you even played vrchat anymore smhhhhhhh
Figured I'd find u here
uh huhhh
fight
yes when i dont have so many guests ๐
froce is just getting to wild on here.
I aim to get banned off all servers on discord
damn u dont play vrc anymore? you were like. the first person who made me realize that cool af dancing was a thing you could do in this game
omfg force you 4head
I still play
damn. ur yt was cool dude ๐ ๐
me?
ahh. makes more sense
smh you dont stream or post to yt anymore youre irrelevant duuuh
who knows maybe one day I'll make YT content again
idk why i even talk to youuu
gonna slip beneath the airwaves eh..
again lol
woah wait
sometimes its better just to play VRC and chill
its always better
that i agree with
isnt that the best thing to do?
vrc and chill with the homos homies
haha true sometimes i do feel like entertaining but a year straight wore me out
Without the stress of trying to have content to stream/record, yeah I agree
boot up vrc, go to a laggy aesthetic comfy world, and then try to render in cycles on a 1060 and i5 6400?
can i pay u to be me instead?
yeah sure im $100 an hour bbyyyy
ew
ok
i dont even have to worry about the stress of making video content cuz im pretty sure trying to record on it at all is gonna make it burn out
oh hell yeah
100 Canadian dollars every 3 hours
i have to worry about the stress of putting on my trackers to lay down in my bed
whats that worth? like a big mac or something?
shhh
thats the one thing that makes me wonder about sleeping with fbt

shes not good with math
do you guys not use blankets? thats awful, what kind of world....fbt bad
i only speak american
But our money smells like maple syrup. So it's worth it.
i use a blanket, its fine for me since i dont move while i sleep
I like syrup! its a deal force!
the only thing i know about canadian money is that quest is 400usd and 500cad
i dont normally need blankets, theyre more of a comfort thing for me not a necessity
*550
unless its just crazy cold
u all saw it she agreed
ohh i need them. comfy and cold all the time
wish there was a random chat thingy on discord
im forceable now
smile

feels bad
i just like the feeling of the blanket on my chin
hai i am a dancing blonde anime girl
@modest mauve fam0us strummer?
wait
i really am forceable
;0
hehe its all coming together
ew, an imposter
aww yeah, imposter time.
legasp
LOL
drop dead fam0us
without the fam0us
wow, i know youre a fan and all, but dont steal names pls @exotic void
LOOOL
just pour water on your motherboard
got ya
upgrade it to system 33
Impersonation is bad 
I'm not personating anyone i swear
im the real forceable
I'd have u guys know...my dad works at microsoft
hmm
well MY dad is elon musk
dummies, all you need to fix any pc is a little kinetic therapy
beats tower with my foot
whats a kinetic?
is that like, room temperature mayonnaise?
no, its actually a system for full body tracking
woahhhhh they sound pretty dumb
nah man bro lemme tell u this shit is ehhhh submilimeter. Yeah.
its also 30hz but thats not the critical part
thats a lot of science

hold on i can help
i am kineti
hahahahhaโค
pretty sure he meant the headpat, lowrhen, not whatever you said
ill appreciate all head therapy, blunt force trauma or cuddly pats alike
no dude im smart i know what im talking about
oh yeah? how many collage degrees do you have?
ill just throw a jar of mayonaisse at their head
lowhren is smart watch
oh i uh, i have 8
whats did i have for dinner yestersay lowrhen?
name them
@desert stratus u had food
damn. incredible, fucker's out here making euler look like a wooden pole
ur so smart
@flat wigeon a degree in catgirls, a degree in elon musk, a degree in 3-year-old-memes, a degree in cuteness, a degree in compooters, a degree in uganda, a degree in ferinheit, and a degree in vrchat
incorrect, there are only 3 kinds of degrees. Fahrenheit, Celcius, and Kelvin
shit
did that fake force finally leave? i cant believe some people
no
ew
LOL WHAT
sorry you have to deal with this kind of harassment force @modest mauve
ty i'll be fine after a few years of therapy
should we witch hunt?
kinetic therapy?
nah man, let him go. he's too far gone.
Kinetic therapy with the hands against her head maybe
0~0
i think the best part is that kinetic therapy is an actual thing. obviously were not bashing people in the head, i think, but it's out there
im too sleepy for this shit
pillow against face really hard stops all the pain after a while
mic, you jamies husband?
O.O
๐

Is this romance?

hi jamie
Oof
hello
hopping in a bit... any spoopy world should I check out
i climbed the rocks
Is this game being ddosed again?
with 7k people on id sayno
@vocal shard Please stop posting the same message in multiple channels, incase you haven't already do have a gander at the #rules .
rofl
hi
Ei
No
as in like this is the first time im playing vr chat its freaking awesome
Oh nice
Welcome :D
Hope you enjoy your stay
if you have any questions feel free to dm me or ask in the server ๐
sure no problem dude

Til both Illy and Lowhren, who I only know from Drumsy's videos, hang out in this discord sometimes
I've never heard of any of those three people... are they "YouTube famous"?
I know them from YouTube, yeah
To sum them up badly: Drumsy is pretty funny, Lowhren is good at dancing, and Illy just seems lovely
I see
Woo finally! Prescription lenses ordered
You'd think it wouldn't be that difficult to get my prescription from my optometrist. Been almost two weeks I've been trying to get it
Nice
about drumsy tho
why does he turn everything into a documentary?
and its all staged too
i dont watch him
hey guys, quick question. Got a new friend in VRchat, how can I get them to be able to accept avatars? is there an account lock based on time or something?
she is new but cant use any private room avi's
@fluid bloom thats just his thing. Hes a reporter
Like get them by cloning/clicking the avatar buttons or upload them to her acc
@floral bluff unless youre talking about uploading theres no such thing
I prefer the fake reporting style funnies to the "lol so randum" videos of most other vrchat YouTubers
To each their own ig
the error message she gets is "for security reasons you're not allowed to select avatars in private worlds or upload content, please continue to enjoy VR chat and we'll message you when you have been unlocked"
I dont really watch any vrc youtubers because you get the same experience playing the game yourself
๐
never heard of that before
not that speific message atleast
@floral bluff what rank is she
she is brand new
Maybe its a country specific thing or a New feature in the game
Then its probably that
She needs atleast new user
I wouldnt mind visitors not beimg able to clone Cancer avatars
yea we are in the USA, was just wondering if it was a time based thing
but thanks for trying to help. I appreciate it
That message means she needs to play more. So basically visit worlds, chat to people, make friends etc. When the time comes she will get a message ingame and an email that she is now permitted to upload custom content.
I thought someone answered that question ages ago but maybe that was someone else asking the same question much earlier. Confusing.
But yeah, visitors (white nameplates) can't upload avatars or worlds.
yo
Yo
Welp boys, I need to start making vr chat friends
Good luck
Good luck man

I've noticed that alot of new players have been wanting to play vr chat lately
I don't friend cyborg ninjas
I'm not a cyborg ninja, I'm cowboy paul
anyone free to meet up in vr chat?
hmm...
to be honest I doubt I'd have the motivation to play VRChat right now
I feel a cold coming on...
and I dont think I want to sound like Im dying if Im talking to someone on VRChat ^^'
Just use a zombie avatar
anyone wanna play cards against humanity in vr chat?
@lyric sphinx never try that before but i will give it a shot
Oh snap, I can change my VRC name now. ... idk what I wanna change it to. DX
Why change it?
^
@snow wadi Now that I'm getting into VRC earlier, I may actually see you again at some point. You always log off shortly before I come online (back when you were on anyway).
Yeah the time you come on is like freaking late my time. D:
well, vampirequeenaly, you can change it again in 3 months
Doesn't define me anymore because I don't stream.
I'll be on during the weekend. Normal hours finally
or was it 1? Idk
No, I have the ability to change it now
90 days.
I didn't just change it to this.
oh lol i cant read english
Ugh, I'm gonna have to throw darts at some adjectives until something looks right.
uhh chaange it to something that resonates with you
It's fine. English is a hard language.
did lobbies just disappear for anyone else?
That's the problem I'm having, I don't know what works for me. Like, I'm smol and I draw a lot, but that's about it.
SmolScribbles o/
Cute, I'll add that to top three choices.
Or TinyScribbles
Well if anyone wants to play cards against humanity we got a world up
your avatar is so funnt XD
Mm, I like the alliteration from the first one.
ScribblyDibbly
Ehhhhh
funny XD
Really env? lmao
That's going in the "Nope" pile.
...
?
who is the one streaming
the top streamer there's always someone who brings it up in viewers
who is slike
I looked into it, some esports pro? I don't think he usually plays vrchat
that explains it most of the time its always some guy who wanted to play randomly and never joins the game again

I'm not sure I've had a single positive streamer interaction, so it'll be curious to see what that guy's up to.
Does VRChat take bug reports for Linux users? My client keeps freezing up after a few minutes on my laptop.
It's like lag spikes that just get worse and worse until it locks up completely
Sorry wrong channel.
I've had many extremely positive interactions. It really depends on the person.
Honestly, if a streamer can't communicate well, especially to new viewers, they're doing something wrong.
I was speaking more from the perspective of someone in the place they decide to turn up in, not as a viewer
More, an unwilling participant
Hm
Loud, obnoxious, have to be the centre of attention, normally trying far too hard. It's cringe inducing to the point where your face turns inside out. The disruption is normally not to anyone's amusement. But yeah, I'm sure there are good ones out there, I've just never seen them.
im pretty sure you've seen jameskii right
Nope
Keep in mind I've never watched any VRChat YouTubers/Twitch streamers either, I'm referring to in-game interactions with people.
Cece, j4key and lohwren are sweethearts, actually, everyone at team kinetic is, and basically anti-toxic.
Meathamsky is just genuinely a goofball and legitimately funny, but also very kind
Odomfire is too pure for this world
and lolathon is a clown
quite literally, yes, and that works. He's also genuinely anti-toxic and just wants to make people laugh. He also showcases others that either show him up or get him back on a scare.
they're fun to be around
I find that most streamers that have a good following are down to earth and nice. While ones who are smaller and trying desperately to get views can be hard to be around
@glad bolt just go with like aly or something, it just needs to feel right to you above all else
or you can also rip me off like my friends did and do [celestial / space thingy] + [fruit or some food i guess]
@vocal shard jamie are you a streamer in vrc?
jamie does some videos from time to time im pretty sure. no clue about the streaming thing tho
yeah
Talked to hubby (also just Aly is too short), did a couple's name.
so i had a problem and i fixed it by making a new project in unity but now when i publish my avatar it doesn't show up in my avatar list
make sure you have avatar descriptor
it has it
it should say that you are missing something
Hm
there arent any errors it just doesnt show up in the ingame avatar list
have you tried restarting vrc?
have you made sure its uploaded to your account? cuz then you'll see your own list
double check on the uploads content and see if its in there, if it is then that just means the game is not seeing it.
on unity

its there
I think I broke VRC for myself. Went to my home world and clicked on myself in the instance and noticed that "Warn" and "Kick" weren't disabled and I thought I'd be cheeky and try to kick myself and shrugged it off like it wouldn't kick me. It did and I got launched in a world loop. Couldn't even go to the default home, omg.
then its just the game
well the project that worked fine broke thats why i made a new one
I'm gonna try to get back in there in an hour, lol.
could always send in a ticket to confirm whats going on
the problem was "clear cache and playerprefs"
that was the only option there was no control panel
vrchat the only game where you can kick yourself out
might want to send in a ticket then cuz thats not supposed to happen
its in here #vrchat-support instructions are on there
k
do you know a fix to the "clear cache and playerprefs" problem?
the project i used to make avatars before worked fine before the problem came up
my throat still feels like crap
I probably wont play VRChat for the time being until the cold hecks off
you can clear your cache in-game via settings > advance settings
nonono
@hallow umbra Check the console for build errors
oh
the unity project only shows that option
i cant use the control panel or other stuff
Yes, you can kick yourself. Yes it will work, yes it makes your trust level go down too
ouch
anyone wanna plzy the town of salem world?
Yeah, that's unreasonable.
I just did it out of curiosity, but that makes no sense to me if I'm in my own home world with only myself in it.
Is that so?
๐ค
Still, I wish it were greyed out for self.
K
Does anyone know of a shader that makes it look like there's more than one copy of an object? Trying to do something interesting for an emote animation, but creating more than one copy of the model will immediately murder the rating.
id tell you if i knew one but i dont im no expert in that
Anyone free to help me out with making a custom avatar? Never done it before, tried following a tutorial but ended up making some buggy thing ๐
ahhhhh i accidentally used a special text as one of my name letters and it doesn't show up in game at all so my name looks so weird
is there a way to change it back or something TwT
You can once every 90 days or so
my name just shows up as yanite instead of Kyanite that's so dum =.=
don't they help in situations like that
You can always ask
No, because people aren't supposed to be using special characters in the first place, it's super annoying.
yeah we're supposed to use normal letters
they can always block it, didn't know lol
there's so many Unicode characters blocking it isn't really feasible
You use a whitelist rather than blacklist.
*tfw kana / kanji / hangul / etc. are considered not "normal letters"
^^this
@faint skiff I can dm you a shader. I don't know if you want toon shading or anything but this one is just unlit
@ivory folio For the duplication? Anything is fine as it can create the illusion of more copies
Hello everyone ๐
Im new to VRchat and VR in general, Ive been on vrchat before via desktop but finally got my VR set this week and played VRchat with actual VR for the first time today
Got to say that it's a whole different experience if you're actually in VR
yep, thats how most people react when they first get vr
What are some good things to do in VRchat to start with?
Also why is litteraly everyone a catgirl 
NOOOO was making my avatar and blender crashed lost everything ๐ฆ
the Murder game world is pretty fun, cards against humanity, climbing worlds, this one really cool world called Underground City
there's also a collaborative effort of metro railroads that link to various worlds that start from a world called VR Central Station if that's your kind of thing; it's fun to virtual miss your virtual train and have to wait for it to circle around again
imo it's one of VRChat's true hidden gems
Oof that sounds bad S Y K, did you lose a lot of time?
i didnt know a central station existed
Also how long will I stay a visitor?
i'm not exactly sure because i never really paid attention to mine, but if you go around and socialize, add people, just have fun really, it should bump your rank up soon
depends on how much you play the game like being with people and making friends and stuff
Okay ^^ I'll just go hang out then, thanks for the help guys! ๐
Lost about 2-3 hours worth of time
was my first avatar too so im so disheartened about it :/, recently bought my vr so want to really get into vr chat and make my own avatar. legit upsetting
what avatar were you doing
Not by default at least, i belive.
I know many, my self included, had these issues of loosing progress cus it locks up.
I think it's restore last session.
Since then i save very regularely 
Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a not time based trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord, a rough estimate would be ** 20-40 hours**, but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a steam or oculus account because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/27-why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
Hmm
Probably because you have VRChat installed via Steam
no
Creating a third party account will not bypass Steam if that's where you downloaded it from
I log in from website
They mean a steam account to log in. You play on steam. What matters is the account you use
I had verified my account
I think you're confusing a few things here. If you have a VRChat account and use that one, then it doesn't matter how you launch it.
Oh I use that
Also if you merge it you can login via Steam and then it automatically uses your VRC account
Then just play until you reach "New User"
Ok
I mean doesnโt stop me from enjoying vr chat but I got tons Avis I want to upload load I feel a bit sad ๐
You'll get it soon. It's just to prevent people from making accounts just to upload malicious avatars
It honestly doesn't take that long to reach New User
Ok I understand I will just keep playing basically I stop playing most games I play just to play vr chat
Even got an a rift from a friend for free he went to the military he didnโt need it soo he gaved it to me ๐๐๐
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ

also take a screenshot of the guy
Sure, but just don't expect something to be done about it anytime soon
I ran into a person using noclip in Murder 2 all day long for weeks, reported him, others reported him, and he's still active
Of course the moment you block someone they get pissed
But blocking + switching instance can do the trick
Should make it quite a bit harder to mess with you and eventually they're going to have a large amount of people blocking them
anyone know of any demon slayer worlds?
Ello
hi
@devout island Custom one i was just putting bobs and pieces together, didnt even know if it would work tbf. First time trying so
at least you tried it thats why you should ask someone if they can do it for you
I did ask some friends but they all refused to
hey im trying to publish my avatars and i finished publishing them in unity but they arent appearing in my vrchat game
do u have the correct version of unity @misty delta
i have 2017.4.33f1
Think the correct one was 2017.4.15f1
k lemme try that one
Hope it helps ^^
also when i try some other unity versions the vrchat sdk only say utilities > clear cache and playerprefs
No idea with that sorry, only know the correct version from researching. Havent actually succeeded in making my own avatar yet ;P
@misty delta "Unity 2017.4.28f1 - Scroll down to find LTS Release 2017.4.28f1
If you have Unity Hub installed, you can just click here to install the proper version. Do NOT install the 2017.4 version that's in the list in the Unity Hub.... use the link we've provided above!" https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/setting-up-the-sdk
"It is very important that you install the correct version of Unity. Ensure that you are installing and using Unity 2017.4.28f1, otherwise content that you upload will not be visible in the application."
alright, just quoting the official docs
ah
good that it worked then ๐
Dope ๐
Seeing all these halloween worlds really inspires me to wanting and making my own
I haven't entirely figured out which one I wanted to jump into myself but I played town of Salem and was disappointed at how someone runs the game wrong and everyone just agrees as if it's automatically correct. Like, how is there not a serial killer when in the actual game there is one, also not to mention that the game is played with a mod remembering the roles. I would have liked there to have been a role in your house or as a card on the ground in front of your podium
anyone know the poly limit?
They removed it with the perfromance rank update. but If you want to have an optimized avatar you should stay below 50k or so
I think its the object data thing (the one above materials)
no idea then. sorry. I'm not that expierenced with blender
thx tho
Itโs in the mesh menu. upside down triangle icon
Theyโre called blendshapes in blender
!online
There are 8560 users in VRChat currently
hi hello every one
Hi salty
what is Vsco ?
^
A meme it seems. Not one I understand though


