I'd still estimate above a 60% margin
#vrchat-general-2
quartz jetty
rigid crescent
if its only public vs unlisted then its pretty unbalanced
faint skiff
What degree of separation does Friends+ use? Or is it literally people that are a friend of a friend at most?
Because technically if you follow the whole chain, almost everyone is probably liked via someone with unlimited steps
rough pulsar
Invite only up to Friends are counted as private, friends+ and public = public
Also, friends+ means anyone friends with anyone in the instance can join.
faint skiff
Ahh, so that's why I couldn't see those "public" instances despite them not being full.
rigid crescent
no the public list is allso broken
quartz jetty
In the banning scheme of things, friends is accounted as public or private?
quartz jetty
Could've sworn the tip had friends (not + ) listed in it
Anybody got a screenshot for me blanks?
I think it was regarding nsfw content
snow wadi
@rough pulsar You saw the screenies I shared? >v>
languid beacon
Private is confusing because there isn’t a instance type called private. What they mean is invite. (I’m not sure if invite+ is considered private as well, but I think it is)
private is more of a world asset status than an instance type
Just because your world is private does not mean the instance is
So keep your weird erp to invite only instances
faint skiff
puts on his robe and wizard hat
languid beacon
I can’t believe bash quotes still make circles
quartz jetty
Oh yeah, i was talking about instance types, if i recall correctly the string used to generate a invite only instance is the private flag
Or was it hidden... can't recall for sure
rough pulsar
Invite, Invite+ and Friends count as private spaces,
Friends+ and Public count as public spaces.
quartz jetty
Before you could generate your own instance, but that is now impossible
Probably for the best, but it was neat to organize meetups
slate verge
friends+ aren't as random since you kinda know who's friends of your friends
faint skiff
Do you?
rough pulsar
Friends+ are ever so slightly less wild than Public. Due to the network effect they're almost identical.
faint skiff
My issue with the way the friends list works is my "friends" list is very different than the people I'd actually consider friends that I wouldn't mind barging in on me in a friends only instance. Anyone else feel that way?
I'm just not sure what to do about it.
slate verge
you mean acquaintance?
faint skiff
Basically. I need an acquaintances list and a friends list, lol.
slate verge
you can favorite them into another group list
quartz jetty
Somewhat, but most of them i know quite well, not so sure about their friends however
slate verge
and renamed it to acquaintance
quartz jetty
I am very selectively social however
faint skiff
That won't solve the issue I mentioned initially though, that those people can still just join on me in friends only instances.
slate verge
oh you mean it like that way.
rough pulsar
With one group I'm with, we have a bot account that everyone friends, and that one starts a friends only instance, so we can all freely come and go, but it's still limited to a specific set of users.
slate verge
well thats up to vrc dev's to implement a much more wider ranking system, for now use what you have. Use Invite+ for now.
faint skiff
Hmm, invite always makes it seem like it's closed. I don't mind actual friends joining, just not that guy I spoke to for 3 minutes that one time 2 months ago.
rough pulsar
Being able to start a friend group only instance would be very nice.
faint skiff
Yeah
quartz jetty
Oh also gallium, i recall reading a tip that stated that invite+ (and i think) friends only instances were liable for a NSFW content ban, given your statement i assume it has some stipulations such as only via streaming content?
I can't recall for sure and i'd like to clear that up
rough pulsar
So this is already a good idea
https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/new-instance-type-friends-only
@quartz jetty private instances lose their status as private once it's possible to observe them from outside. So recordings, streams, etc.
slate verge
so basically random people that are friends of the said friends already instances will have to request invites
rough pulsar
Yeah
So if I start an instance, my direct friends can freely join, but non-mutual friends of others in the instance must request to join.
slate verge
yeah i guess thats a good one next to Friends Only
quartz jetty
I'm asking given the fact that invite only wasn't listed there
slate verge
though that is already quite similar to Invite+
rough pulsar
As far as I know for rules purposes, anything lower than friends only (inclusive) counts as private.
Also keep in mind that while I do have a say how rules are interpreted here, on the VRChat discord (as noted in #rules), when it comes to rules in VRChat itself, I'm just the same as the rest of you.
slate verge
hopefully more new ranks are brought up for the future
faint skiff
But going back to my original question, is it just a case of never friending anyone unless I'm legitimately friends with them, otherwise you're stuck in the situation I mentioned before? Because that's unfortunate if it's true.
slate verge
it is unfortunate, because i believe the game is supposed to make you feel much connected to the people you meet even if you don't speak to them very much
frosty veldt
If you don't want someone to be able to join on you then your shouldn't be friends with them. People you haven't talked to in a long time should be a fun catch up, not dreading they've shown up.
slate verge
yeah if you don't feel comfortable with them anymore, you have the rights to remove and block them
small wing
Nb4 they berate you for unfriending them lol.
rough pulsar
A separation of Friends & acquaintances would be nice. But I can see the logic behind both sides.
slate verge
but how can they if you can't see them anymore
rough pulsar
Network effect.
quartz jetty
Of course i understand such, i'm not going to be pinning anything on you gallium, i'm just a bit confused on the topic as the tip itself didn't state invite only, and was related to streaming content, i could go further and question what instances would be allowed for such disregarding streaming content (given the fact i saw nothing stipulated elsewhere regarding such), but i was just interested in that tip specifically
faint skiff
@frosty veldt That's not really the case. I'm naturally an introvert and I can't always handle high energy people at all times...
rough pulsar
I've fortunately had that save me from a friend or two who I lost due to bugs or them getting a new account and friending other people I know and eventually running into them again.
slate verge
now that!...we need a recent listing of met people
frosty veldt
I'm not against separation of friend and aquantice as having tons of friends is part of the game. Got around 600 but it's kinda neccesary due to networking and such
quartz jetty
That'd be pretty neat
small wing
I just wanna have the option to only let mutual friends add me
faint skiff
For a game based entirely around social interaction, it sorely lacks in the accounting and managerial side of that ecosystem.
quartz jetty
These should be goin' straight to #feature-requests lads
faint skiff
@slate verge I've used the debug logs before to find the names of people when that happened.
rough pulsar
More friend management tools would definitely be useful.
frosty veldt
Ordering people in those 96 slots did help a lot at least
rough pulsar
And yes, make canny posts for the ideas and share them
slate verge
@faint skiff thats nice
faint skiff
@slate verge I'm just saying if you forget someone and need to find their name again, if you can remember at least part of their name, you can find them in the log.
@rough pulsar Given that there's already a bajillion requests in Canny, it feels like any new requests would be beyond futile.
frosty veldt
They've said they look at them all just a lot of them have a ton of under the hood work and arnt a quick fix. I would assume they would wait on more friend management when the UI gets revamped
quartz jetty
Upvote the ones ye like most, it might get some more traction
slate verge
@faint skiff it would be better as a feature cuz then you can just look in-game and add them right off the bat
even when they're offline
perhaps that will happen in the future
faint skiff
Oh sure, but as that's probably never going to happen, I was just suggesting an emergency measure available right now.
@quartz jetty None cover my earlier concern so...
slate verge
yeah definitely a workaround for now
languid beacon
Would be nice to be able to make a instance specific to one of your friends categories instead full friends list
languid beacon
Yes you can have up to 3 friend groups
quartz jetty
Category based listing would be amazing
slate verge
but even though the limit is 32 favorited friends per group
languid beacon
I won’t lie I renamed my group 1 “close friends” and I use it near exclusively.
quartz jetty
We could get an increased cap, or allow multiple groups
slate verge
i used mine exclusively too. Guild, Casual Favs, acquaintance
quartz jetty
Multiple groups would void the cap entirely so it's likely the best outcome in that regard
quartz jetty
That is still a whole lot of people for a single instance
faint skiff
Can you imagine making a 33rd "friend" though? You'd have to bump someone else... lol
languid beacon
Yeah but like 90% of friends list are offline
quartz jetty
Truestory
languid beacon
So out of 32 people only 3.2 are online
rigid crescent
mine is split between jp friends, old friends, and the last is just whatever
slate verge
@languid beacon and at least 40% of them are in private world 24/7
so much for being friends
faint skiff
Then you've got the issue where, for some reason, your friend count counts towards your rank? So I'm loath to remove people to keep it "actual friends only" otherwise it'll affect my ranking up ability..
slate verge
thats just a myth
quartz jetty
Literally only 2 of my mates are usually in friends/public instances, the rest are all private
quartz jetty
And i'm headin' off, y'all have a good one
faint skiff
You too
rigid crescent
3/4th of mine is not-privaate
languid beacon
I don’t care about rank at all. I purge my friends list all the time. Still purple, which is hidden as green anyway because Rank is dumb
slate verge
its meant to depict or show you as a reliable community member
languid beacon
I don’t think it has as much weight as people think.
faint skiff
@slate verge In reality I don't see how it would.
slate verge
its much more of a first glance "Oh hey look that user is purple rank, maybe he can help me on something" like that.
languid beacon
I’ve done quite a bit of A/B testing with tag as green or purple and people seem more talkative when I have it as green
slate verge
they may know much more about unity stuff and by chatting with them you could learn a thing or two
desert stratus
all the rank system does for me nowadays is just tell me how long a person has been playing for and thats about it, everything else its supposed to do could be handled better or just results in worse things because people are dumby wumby
faint skiff
I can't be the only person that thinks "Oh, that user is a purple tag. Their avatar is probably 200,000+ tris and has eyerape emotes mapped..." lol
desert stratus
i always leave my rank on because it may be useful to players, and also cuz im weird >u>
languid beacon
Ha. Mine is excellent rated, but I’m also hiding as green. Maybe I’m contributing to that statistic
slate verge
you aren't, but you aren't supposed to think like that because why would you.
frosty veldt
Don't need to guess avatar rank when you can just see it separately
slate verge
i mean granted some purple users are assholes and dicks from what i've met a few times
faint skiff
Because it's happened enough times for me to now think that way
languid beacon
Maybe the same people that want to flaunt their purple tag also want really complex avatars too
And people that want simple avatars don’t want the attention from a purple tag either
slate verge
many people are different and some could be dicks and just out right spamming emotes on ya and try to crash you, but that doesn't apply to almost nearly everyone
frosty veldt
My worst avatar performance wise is rated excellent since all the lag is from shaders
languid beacon
I find it odd rank does not care a single bit about texture resolution
desert stratus
it brings me joy knowing that every time people click on my avatar they see taht glorious green circle, because my nametag + my avatar's appearance gives them the impression otherwise lol
inner cape
poor rank coming through
languid beacon
Atlas down to 512 or use a 8k by 8k diffuse normal and spec. Same rank
slate verge
green is abit much for my taste, i prefer blue but that one is new user only for a short time
faint skiff
I'm normally struggling around 35fps in the pug hence why "very poor" ranked avatars are something I tend to keep an eye out for.
frosty veldt
Texture resolution doesnt effect performance, just load time IIRC
languid beacon
It sits in memory. It’s very much effects performance
You can cap out texture memory and everyone will start lagging
slate verge
If every content user uploaders can and learn how to optimized and decimate avatars....Maybe, Just Maybe!....everywhere else would be a better place to vrc-ing.
languid beacon
Don’t need to decimate if you model with the limits in mind forehead
frosty veldt
Shouldn't be texture resolution, probably just avatar package size in the performance ranking
Yeah some people go overboard for no reason but sometimes it's really easy to get to very poor if you want to use some components like cloth/lights/mesh particles
Not saying those limits are there for no reason, just that it's unrealistic to see every very poor avatar as someone who doesn't know how to optimize
languid beacon
I don’t 100% agree with making disabled game objects part of rank
faint skiff
What affect does cloth have on the rating?
frosty veldt
Cloth is 0-0-100-250-500 I think. Docs are wrong last time I checked
Vetices in the cloth object
languid beacon
I think the game should count the components in play mode and see what was set to appear and count those. But not stuff on hand gestures
desert stratus
just wake me up when they add the a checkbox for "factor hidden game objects into avatar rank" in the client lol
languid beacon
Yeah an option would be nice
rough pulsar
If people didn't abuse the system by hiding heavy objects and enabling them after the perf rank check we wouldn't be in this mess.
languid beacon
The only problem is people using gestures to content always appear for a lower rank they ruined it for everyone else
Jinx
slate verge
so basically, this is why we can't have nice things
frosty veldt
Just use final IK for every object so when youre not using it it's just attached somewhere /s
languid beacon
Final ik is bork
rough pulsar
Or even better, just have two versions of the avatar. The heavy functional one, and a lightweight one for when that's needed.
frosty veldt
You can use final IK for props still. Main thing broke with it is it can't touch your actual armature
rough pulsar
Of course, people won't do that because you clearly need all your ridiculous gesture override objects at all times.
languid beacon
All my vehicles are broken because they removed custom walk animations
desert stratus
b-but muh m16!
languid beacon
I had stuff like bicycles/skateboards
cold talon
Scionzenos, how would you use it if its only local
slate verge
are there some popular or famous quest avatar maker in vrc at the moment?
desert stratus
i always had one gun that looked like a crasher's weapon and it just shot hearts every time i pulled it out lmfao
faint skiff
Before I forget, is it possible to hide other people's cameras? The little button isn't bad but the fact it puts a name-tag on it is quite annoying if it's stuck infront of you.
desert stratus
"oh no look out he's gonna crash you!" no you fucking 9head im shooting you with the cuddle cannon
slate verge
hide other people's camera?
languid beacon
You shouldn’t even be able to see other people’s cameras they are striped out remotely
frosty veldt
@cold talon Final IK execution order is local, FBBIK does not work at all. You can use rigid bodies and fixed joints and then connect final IK limb IK to those joints to fake connected to your hands in a sense. For example on one of my avatars I have a rigid body on each hand and connect the props to those
faint skiff
It still shows a blue button thing and puts a copy of their nametag over the camera.
languid beacon
Oh the photo camera I thought you meant unity camera
spare flower
what does red nameplate means now btw
faint skiff
No no, the in-game camera.
languid beacon
Red name plates is dev but I don’t think they use it
spare flower
When is WhyNotRight a dev??
languid beacon
Don’t know who that is
desert stratus
you sure their tag isnt just orange?
slate verge
i actually remember seeing Ron with a red name plate, but it was more darker orange than red when i remember it
rough pulsar
Pretty sure the dev plates are like regular ones but have a specific (dev) next to them.
languid beacon
That was before trust system was added. Don’t know if devs have a special color anymore. I know Nuisance is just grey like visitor
spare flower
someone posted at the TW vrchat discord so was wondering
slate verge
well i met ron a few months ago with dark orange and dev on it
spare flower
yeah that's what i though
languid beacon
I guess it’s still around then
cold talon
so if you connect limb ik to joints it will work?
opaque pasture
i keep getting an error to upload an avatar the following component types are found on the avatar and will be removed by the client vrc_station
spare flower
i will ask tupper or noe for clarification when i see them
slate verge
@opaque pasture better to ask that in #avatars-2-general channel
languid beacon
Tupper is the only team member I’ve met in game
slate verge
i've only seen Ron 
faint skiff
Hmm, seems there's already a Canny from mid last year about it. Shame that there's no way to get rid of it because it's really annoying. https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/toggle-camera-nametag
languid beacon
Do they not vanish with hidden UI?
faint skiff
The name tag does, but then I'm constantly turning the UI on and off to see who's around me.
frosty veldt
@cold talon Yeah so do exactly how would would do it normally but have the 'targets' connect via fixed joints instead of being children
languid beacon
QoL change make nametags appear when menu is open even when name tags are hidden
frosty veldt
How I ended up with 8+ rigid bodies on my avatar lmao
faint skiff
@languid beacon That would be great. I was really surprised that it didn't work like that by default.
languid beacon
I’m trying to think of the easiest way to make an avatar behave exactly as normal except the head does not shrink to 0 locally
cold talon
but how does that make it so its not local only
sorry but my small brain just cant comprehend
frosty veldt
The only Final IK component that was set as local only is IK execution order. This was because network IK doesn't send over the right info
You don't need execution order or VR IK when using rigid bodies since you never touch your armature
frosty veldt
Limb IK is still transmitted over when not connected becuase then it is treated as any other prop
I can't say cuz I dunno how you've used them
cold talon
not using the execution order, just rigid bodies as targets
frosty veldt
Rn you can't use execution order or FBBIK, everything else should work
Should still work then, gotta test with someone else though to make sure
I used the method I'm talking about and it 100% works rn
cold talon
if thats the case thats a huge pog for me, final ik is my favorite, most used component for avatars
frosty veldt
@languid beacon only way I can think of is using stencils and a fake head bone that follows your actual head bone
Yeah final IK still "works" just some more work and some weird shit
Some things really just won't work or will need a lot of different meshes and such. I.e. pistons between limbs, spider legs, ect
languid beacon
Time to figure out what stencils are
frosty veldt
Stencils are a little weird but give a lot of freedom, pretty sure toucanz has a 40ish min tutorial on them with vrchat in mind
languid beacon
Aren’t they for portals?
frosty veldt
They can be yeah
cold talon
actually, spider legs should work, thats how i originally made the breath of the wild guardian, all rigid bodies and shizz
frosty veldt
How stencils work bluntly is that every pixel has a value and you can make things react to those values or change the values
So in this instance you would make your head shader react to a specific value and then have a mask over your viewpoint that would change the value you see to that so your head would dissapear
You would need a different shader for you head entirely
karmic pollen
Anyone know of a good place to start or a large list of cool worlds to explore?
frosty veldt
@cold talon I made a spider with FBBIK and execution order with grounders and limb IKto simulate colliding with the ground which is pretty broke rn. To other people the grounder still works apparently but FBBIK disables head movement locally so I need to redo everything
I didn't use any rigid bodies though, will probably connect the spider to the human around the waist via rigid bodies and then the grounder should work without the extra baggage
languid beacon
Oh I actually meant I want the head to NOT vanish locally because the system scales it to 0 and I want it to not do that
Because Avatars with long hair you can’t see it dangling in first person
frosty veldt
Only way I can think of it is by connecting a fake head bone with the normal head weights. So then vrchat scales the 'Head' bone to 0 but keeps your other fake head at normal size. Then use a fixed joint to copy the rotation of the head to the fake head
Should work but I've never done it myself
I think doing that will break eye rotation so you'd have to fake that as well
frosty veldt
I should really try doing what I just said, would be cool to see hair on your shoulder and such
cold talon
you could make the hair a separate object and parent it to the head using a fixed joint
frosty veldt
Yeah would be better to cut the hair out and connect that instead of the entire head if you only care for the hair
languid beacon
Wouldn’t the fixed joint get scaled smaller with the head
Specifically I’m talking splatoon inkling lol can’t see her hair wobbling around when you look down
Everyone points it out
So fixed joints don’t have sync problems? I recall them getting desynced that’s why I never messed with them myself
frosty veldt
From what I'm aware everything that is the head or a child of the head is scaled to 0. A fixed joint is not a child so it shouldn't be shrunk
I'm not aware of sync problems but they do lag behind slightly and are usually overall something you want to avoid. However, they are really good at bypassing vrchats issues/mechanics so they are very useful
languid beacon
I guess I need to actually read up on fixed joints
Not 100% clear on what they are in terms of what they are for
frosty veldt
They are for making an armature or for interacting with the world. Rigid bodies are used to interact with physics colliders and such
Using them the way we are for vrchat is a bit of a basteridaztion of what they are meant for though so I don't know about a lot of helpful docs
languid beacon
I figured that’s what’s going on because their name doesn’t seem to make sense
frosty veldt
If you think about it with programming in mind, putting a rigid body on something elevates it to a global position and then fixed joints allows you to link global things
languid beacon
Learning the proper intended purpose of things helps me actually make sense of using stuff for vrchat lol
Oh I see. Thanks
frosty veldt
In Vrchat it's mostly used for copying rotation transforms. Extra arms follow to rotation of normals arms for example
languid beacon
That’s why I really want 2018 unity’s rotation constant component. Seems to do exactly what you said without invoking the physics system. “This object copies target game object’s rotation”
frosty veldt
God forbid we get useful components
I've sunk my teeth into rigid bodies after they shit over Final IK lmao
Very poor here I come
languid beacon
I never messed with final ik because I kept hearing mixed info about it working or not
frosty veldt
That's because it works and it doesn't at the same time
What I was explaining to bahka earlier is the best use of Final IK rn imo since the other things are broken
You also have people talking about different times. Once upon a Time it all worked, then FBBIK broke, then IK execution order broke
languid beacon
Lol I tied my shapekey prop to a walk cycle and if I walk slowly the shape key only goes to 50 so the vehicle is tiny
frosty veldt
Yeah you were saying that shapekeys don't work either on walk cycles? I'm aware generic rigs don't work
faint skiff
Cursed sentence...
snow wadi
@faint skiff ovo/
languid beacon
Nothing that isn’t a humanoid muscle parameter plays remotely. But you can still play anything locally.
faint skiff
@snow wadi Oh Hai
languid beacon
If you don’t care about others seeing it they work fine
So I’m still working on stuff for when they fix it
frosty veldt
Yeah makes sense, just have a spider walking via blendshapes so I'll just leave it since it worked before
languid beacon
What I don’t understand is why non-IK animations need to be streamed over network IK instead of playing locally they’d be much smoother
And there’s no Ik involved
frosty veldt
Probably all bundled together and sent over and then when they were making network IK they changed what was bundled
spare moon
So when is vr chat coming to switch? Lol 😂
spare moon
They have a vr set now
undone plaza
really?
spare moon
Yes it's dumb cardboard atm but still
undone plaza
oh yeah
spare moon
First social app smart enough to figure out that platform might be ground breaking for it.
faint skiff
Nothing to do with it. It's down to what Nintendo allow. They don't like the social aspects of the console which is why they relied on cryptic friend IDs for so long.
spare moon
I think they are getting better they are slowly allowing games that have no business on it. Maybe social stuff is next
flint swift
Any way you can search through community labs worlds?
spare moon
And by games I mean sexual type games like leisure suit Larry and some game that is focused on increasing breast size..
😂 😂 😂
faint skiff
Social stuff is a can of worms for them. They like that parents can give their kids one of these devices without having to worry about strangers and content, it's a "safe" thing for kids.
Adding a social media aspect would kill that for them.
faint skiff
That and it's a bit heavy to strap to your head
spare moon
Is it though? I think it may be the same as the Oculus or vive.. I'll try checking out the weights of both later
languid beacon
Nintendo does not allow any sort of adult content on their platform. At all.
spare moon
That was true but not now. Check out the eShop. They are getting uncensored games that even Sony and Microsoft said censored or nothing
vocal shard
is VRC down? uploading appears borked
spare moon
Things changed when people died/retired. I digress though. Playing vr chat on it would be super weird and laggy as hell, but it would make bank though
white lichen
VRchat is working for me
languid beacon
Nintendo is also super anti-voice chat IIRC
Switch doesn’t even have a microphone
spare moon
True
languid beacon
And laboVR looks worse than DK1 heh
Well, about the same as DK1
3DOF just like it and similar resolution. Very bad screen door
indigo fern
Yea, Nintendo doesn't care about adult content anymore, they made it a point that they won't censor things on their platform
cold talon
heheehee
faint skiff
Adult content != social content
indigo fern
Was referring to what adeon said earlier
languid beacon
Didn’t know they changed their tune with adult content. That just leaves the copyright violations, performance concerns, and lack of a microphone.
It also has only 3 dof controllers so hand tracking is out
And being free, I’m not exactly sure you want the average Nintendo switch owner wandering in. Gonna be a lot of kids. Who can’t use mics.
Just.. observing
spare moon
Well wouldn't a bunch a kids who can't talk be even better
Make it so they can only do Nintendo avatars and see default models then bam. Also the joycons could work well as controllers. They are motion sensors after all.
Performance concern could be address with the new switch XL. That is 4k screen. The only shit is online. Nintendo online sucks
vestal pier
I think chucking 4k on there would only add more performance issues
The extra work vrc would need to do is not worth it unless Nintendo is willing to pay up
faint skiff
Are they putting considerably better hardware in the Switch XL then? As the normal one is only 720p and already needed a lot of games toning down for it.
vestal pier
If they did it would be bigger and bulkier and that means redesigning labo
Aka, not happening
Like ever.
tawny ore
I use "He's playing on a Labo" as a joke when in public rooms
indigo fern
Nah, theyre just putting in a newer version of the cpu, better power consumption mainly
tawny ore
But the current switch is Tegra 1; so the next one I'd assume go up to Tegra 3 maybe
indigo fern
Yea, I think so
tawny ore
And after that they may be looking at mobile processors e.t.c.
That's if Nintendo stick to the whole handheld attitude.
faint skiff
It's not Tegra 1, that's ancient. It's Tegra X1. The X2 isn't even out yet, nevermind the X3.
tawny ore
Inb4 nintendo VR and we're all blown away by the 4000x4000 - 160 FOV ----- Pokemon in 2D
Ohh I misremembered, my bad.
indigo fern
Wait, ye it's just some revised tegra 1 in the switch lite
faint skiff
Because I remember having a Tegra 3 tablet like 5 years ago lol
tawny ore
Oh christ, switch is almost 3 years old already....
ruby needle
indigo fern
How can it be called a Wii u if more than just you play it, cmonPaul it's just a name
ruby needle
The console, like the DS (dual screen) has the name after a concept tho
tawny ore
The Wii U tablet controller was excellent for snapping your wrists in half and defeating intruders
indigo fern
How can it be a Wii if we wouldn't like to play ;-;
tawny ore
Also kid-proof as they can't lift it off the ground
ruby needle
But lets stay on topic 
*
tawny ore
What was the topic? I joined for the Switch, stayed for the Wii U
And now my attention is solely yours FPaul
indigo fern
Yes Paul, eyes on you now 👀
opaque hawk
Off topic, but do you really know someone if you haven’t been to their custom homeworld?
spare moon
The current version of switch they put out the other day is the better battery one. It's like old model with switch lite battery.
The switch XL is something completely different
We don't know much about it beside 4k
indigo fern
Oh, you mean the one that's not coming out anytime soon
spare moon
I guess
indigo fern
I'm pretty sure they said not this year or something
spare moon
If Pokemon snap 2 isn't in vr though I think riots will happen lol
faint skiff
I think you're underestimating how much work needs to be done for VR to not suck, you can't just Labo something and expect it to be good.
vocal shard
hey anyone know how to run vrchat through a socks5 proxy
not ban evading i live in a semi and the truck stop wiifi is timing stuff out unless i use my socks5
spare moon
But in all seriousness something we can all agree on would be amazing would be that children can't talk. Haha
faint skiff
While that would be useful, having a bunch of mutes run around spazzing out and just being annoying isn't an improvement
spare moon
Doesn't that happen anyway lol
All I'm saying is if it did ever get to that point. Vrchat could monopolize on it and make money off it. A very unlikely future but it you never know. That's all
vocal shard
i wonder if they'll ever make a general android port
you can already operate pc version using just a headset and a controller
and the oculus go ver is android
neon flume
Ron did mention that they would eventually like to get to mobile devices. Seems like more a nice-to-have rather than a definite goal though.
https://discordapp.com/channels/189511567539306508/565256015013085195/565602174936285194
vocal shard
seems like
vrchat's mainly made money from headset manufactors who realize that vrchat is the killer app for headsets atm
neon flume
Vive really ought to give vrchat some percent on every vive tracker they sell. I imagine this game alone accounts for at least half of their tracker sales unless I'm forgetting some other use of those trackers.
vocal shard
some tennis game
at the point you're spending money on trackers yo umay as well go to a tennis court
and who has playspace to play proper tennis in vr?
either hyper vr nerds or rich people? may as well play tennis irl
faint skiff
The fact that second hand ones don't seem to exist in my country at all is crazy
outer fox
Am I the only one experiencing 15 minutes for the game to intalize and load
open elbow
i had alot of issues yesterday with the game loading, and keeping it working once it was working
i ended up restarting the application many times and my pc
outer fox
the servers are barely holding on
i wish the devs would make the servers more stable
even my vr buddies are having issues
mossy fractal
faint skiff
I'm getting non-stop failures with the SDK when trying to upload so I assume something's fucked
vocal shard
i uploaded avatar and in avatar menu not showing up
rigid crescent
what unity version
vocal shard
oof 2018.3.0f2
opaque hawk
You are using the wrong version
vocal shard
when I upload again the same avatar with the same name it should replace?
faint skiff
No, it's just the UUID that matters in the pipeline tab
vocal shard
can I update my avatar?
faint skiff
Yes, just use the same ID
vocal shard
Does anyone here have the vive and a 144hz monitor, if so do you feel any difference?
vocal shard
how fix avatar rotating loop?
inner cape
rotate into opposite direction at the same speed
cold talon
Sadly, there are no alternatives to dynamic bones
sullen escarp
you can use joints and rigidbodies, but they're more of a pain to set up
not really any good guides on it
cold talon
And even more unoptimized
copper gulch
Anyone notice a bug where you can't select your private avatars out favorited ones? They just disappear.
thorny bloom
How do i take a jpg screenshot of vrchat? because it saves my photos in png but sometimes saves as jpg in the steam foldier
gilded haven
Please for the love of god vrchat devs fix the audio back to what it was it's impossible for me to play cuz I cant understand and get massively irritated when I can hear people like their whispering in my ear 50 ft away when I'm trying to talk to my friends
still lark
@inner cape 200 IQ
subtle cosmos
Hello who want to join meh server
flat narwhal
did they ever fix the thing where gigantic avatars have trouble selecting different avatars in the menu due to weird hitboxes
i never switch to my EVA because when i do it takes like 5 minutes to be able to actually select another avatar
flat narwhal
i forgot the command, thanks. but they should fix that
its a pain to get out of vr just to do that
steady kayak
Nice the IK freezing now actually recovers and thats a big improvement
uncut crag
users of wmr, flip over your foam padding so that it indents both ways in the top middle and bottom middle
steady kayak
still hoping that update rate and latency improves again so that you can see others dance in vrchat properly again! 😃
rancid vessel
Anyone else getting a issue with VRChat tonight where you get sent to your home world upon a invite? I got invited to werewolf and it sent me home, got invited earlier to some Yandere simulator avatar world and it sent me home as well.
azure walrus
Wyoming is supposedly a state. Wyoming does not in fact exist, it is a distortion of space-time that only appears to exist. Anyone you've met who thinks they have been to Wyoming, or believes they have lived in Wyoming have had fake memories implanted by the U.S. government. This is because they cannot explain it, and it would cause a mass panic if the public knew the truth. If you attempt to drive into Wyoming you will wake up in Canada, naked, and with no memories. (This is how Canada gets new citizens).
wise perch
azure walrus
Yep
fair yoke
Is there any way to 'save' animations by holding down the trigger with the index controllers?
neon flume
Not quite the same as the vive but if you disable gestures (pressing the touchpad) while doing a gesture it’ll lock in that face/animation until you enable gestures again.
vocal shard
what CPU you using
sage zenith
To be fair I have potato pc
But I heard it's been working properly again, had a friend having the same issue
fleet ice
vrchat, i'm very proud of you, after more than a half year you could fix the sound lagging by fps drops....
fleet ice
the issue is fixed without chaning my hardware, so what you talking?
vocal shard
I haven't noticed any major changes
meager solstice
wait what? r u saying it is fixed or not?
vocal shard
then again, i stick to smaller worlds
fleet ice
sorry my bad english, i meant the sound lagging is fixed(for me)
meager solstice
probably the new audio update they just did
flat narwhal
yeah i can actually hear the music in void without it lagging a fuckton
astral lance
Yo, can anyone tell me why I hear myself now whenever I switch into the avatar that I am always using?
wise perch
check your mic settings to see if the echo function is turned on. might be whats causing that.
faint skiff
@rancid vessel AFAIK that means the world was full
pastel dirge
so what changes did you do to the new sdk that its not working at all
555555555 is with new sdk, the one called 11111111 is the old sdk
and that one works fine
same model just removed old sdk and put in new sdk
faint skiff
Looks like you accidentally deleted the textures too
pastel dirge
i did NOT
still lark
Also what's your Unity version? :P
pastel dirge
i know what unity version is required, im not stupid ok
still lark
🤦
inner cape
also might be that your shaders broke
try reimporting them
cold talon
no need to get offended, sheesh
inner cape
takuu
tender timber
wtf is this movement control
still lark
But we need to know what Unity version you used, to rule it out.
inner cape
what's wrong with it?
pastel dirge
i been spending 2 hours removing reimporting and tried everything, new sdk dosent let materials g otrhought
im using th one it says on the vrchat website
still lark
I could go deeper and ask what windows version you're using, or what BIOS version.
hollow breach
bios D :
pastel dirge
how would my windows version change the fact that the sdk from month 6 works fine but the new sdk from end of month7 dosent work
hollow breach
@pastel dirge There is absolutely nothing wrong with ur unity
Everything people try to say, is wrong
pastel dirge
ok here
i cant upload pictures here
ill go to the @avatars section
i posted it on the avatars section where i can post pics
pastel dirge
so if i use the old sdk compared to the newer version
what would happen
would the avatar not show for some
because at this rate the new sdk dosent work
still lark
New SDK works fine, thousands of people have used it.
pastel dirge
well glad it worked for them, many shaders dosent work for me in the new one so im keeping the old
whatever
subtle trout
Rewrite the script for the shader, dont be lazy.
vocal shard
What can you do about people that you can't report? There's an error message when you try to report them, I'm assuming they're using a modded client of sorts
It was a bunch of desktop users with literally over one billion polygons and particles on them, almost the entire lobby got crashed because of them. Only the safety setting could save me
I just don't see the point of people being like that in general
inner cape
report via #moderation-reports
vocal shard
I guess I'll record them next time
rigid crescent
your output log could help too
inner cape
^
cyan breach
@inner cape ^
cold talon
@cyan breach ^
cyan breach
inner cape
natek I will spank you
cyan breach
:3
mental fossil
cold talon
don't do it, don't give him satisfaction
wise perch
wise perch
awoos quietly
cold talon
speaking of satisfaction https://youtu.be/9wmzxxN0m3k
inner cape
vocal shard
Anyone know someone named jackster ?
vestal pier
Why?
vocal shard
Personnal reasons
vestal pier
Its a very generic name
faint skiff
Nothing Personnel Kid
still lark
@cyan breach Awww thanks
gaunt turtle
when will the crashing and lagging be fixed like its getting to be too much work restarting the whole game or sometimes steam or even my whole pc for like 1-2 hours of playing time before it crashes again
rigid crescent
sounds like an issue on your end
gaunt turtle
but how to fix that then my security settings are on all player rank trust custom anim. off shadres off and light/particle off
faint skiff
The issue people kept having last night that I saw was that either A) people were just showing as errors to random people or B) people would never load for themselves and wouldn't even have a loading bar, they'd have to restart the game. A bunch in the same instance were complaining about it yesterday.
dusk mesa
We have soundsbugs since a while. Its like super quiet all of sudden and you have basically to stay inside a person to hear them and even then they are super quiet 
and after like 5-10min it comes back. Switching Map didnt fix it either
vocal shard
faint skiff
I've found "areas" now, e.g. the top floor of the Black Cat very quickly reach a crescendo of noise as it doesn't drop off well enough.
@rough pulsar Valve aren't accepting RMAs for the vertical line issue now and are sending ticket responses that it's normal for the display.
rough pulsar
Well that fuking sucks >:C
Also bullshit since there's plenty of displays that don't do it
faint skiff
Actually going by the comments on the subreddit, I'd say it's maybe 1 in 10 that don't have the issue?
There's very, very few people saying they don't have the issue.
rigid crescent
vertical line?
faint skiff
You can a screen-door/interlace effect when you move your head
faint skiff
Yeah, that.
rough pulsar
Either mine doesn't have it or I can't see it.
opaque hawk
Oh, @vast tulip I think you said you were having a problem like this.
vocal shard
Oh damn, yeah that shouldn't be normal
rough pulsar
Sounds like Pimax users experience a similar issue
faint skiff
It's often almost invisible but other times is really obvious, such as when looking at people's anime faces in VRC.
rough pulsar
What I wonder is if it's somewhat predictable and could be corrected in software, similar to the mura correction on OLED.
faint skiff
It's a shame because the detail on the screen is fantastic other than that.
snow wadi
I will get on VRC 2 hours from now. \o/
languid beacon
Yikes, I just keep having more and more reasons to put off the index and wait, which sucks because I have the money saved up and just sitting around
faint skiff
Did anyone ever try VRChat with a Leapmotion controller?
Seems like that would be useful for people that want to do sign language
outer fox
@faint skiff I've played VRchat with a Wiimote and DK Bongos
Planning on using a steering wheel next for an authentic car experience
fast falcon
inner cape
I maybe want to
but if I'm able to is a whole another question
singular japanese laugh
good contribution fez
faint skiff
In what ways does a Japanese laugh vary from your typical laugh?
faint skiff
Ah, like the Korean kekekekeke
rigid crescent
comes from warau
vestal pier
xaxaxaxaxax for russia?
inner cape
ye
meager kettle
I got a ping here, but it's gone. Who pingeth
brisk bone
Oops this was in #vrchat-general-2
inner cape
wdym fez
outer fox
Deleting at work 👀
inner cape
but this is general
frozen prawn
Hiya
tawny ore
raughs in japanse
fresh iris
Has VRC on unity fixed? i cant wait to upload my world cuz unity keeps crashing when i press upload
outer whale
yes
fresh iris
wait so how do i disable FP? @meager solstice and where is SDK settings
meager solstice
@fresh iris just click on the sdk and go to settings should be a little box in there uncheck it
fresh iris
all i got is API and ALL logging enabled @meager solstice
sly wind
alguien habla español
sly wind
you spanish
verbal blade
no sorry
sly wind
you want to be my friend
meager solstice
@fresh iris u sure u logged into the sdk
fresh iris
yes
vocal shard
@tawny ore that actually made me lol
tawny ore
frozen prawn
Hm
misty steeple
How can I get trusted user on vrchat?
misty steeple
:P
inner cape
he's right
vocal shard
There's no clear answer. They try to keep it a secret from us. But just being active and contributing to the community helps rank up. You can get trusted on just playing and doing nothing else, but the more you do, the more it helps
misty steeple
Ty
slate verge
basically if you are active and do action, you basically are gaining something in a way
languid beacon
Step 1.) Finally get purple tag
Step 2.) Hide purple tag because people are scared to talk to you
vocal shard
^
frozen prawn
@languid beacon whats purple tag?
vocal shard
Joined some lobbies with my purple tag (trusted user), instantly started getting name called and memed until I hid it
languid beacon
I'm just calling Trusted users purple tags because that's the color of their nametag. https://files.readme.io/c8af264-TrustLevels_4.png
vocal shard
You'll move up soon ^^
frozen prawn
❀
indigo fern
Not sure how y'all have bad luck so often 
I barely run into any trouble at all ever
languid beacon
In theory the purple nametags are people who've been using VRC the longest and can be a source of help to know how the game works, but in practice, tag color is kind of irrelevant to anything at all
indigo fern
frozen prawn
lol
languid beacon
I've never had anyone directly talk about trust levels in-game or make reference to it
But I do feel people be less chatty with a purple tag showing
rigid crescent
There was the shitstorm the first few weeks, mostly memeing, but yeah same
Yeah I'm in no-flex mode like 99% of the time
languid beacon
Sometimes I just turn nameplates off and let people be people
rigid crescent
I pretty much only play with them off lol
I don't really know the point in having them on ever to be honest, unless you need to know who's talking in a crowded room i guess
vocal shard
I leave them on since there's usually 3 people using the same avatar 
rigid crescent
Ah most of my friends don't use public ones, or they use modified versions of existing public world models
indigo fern
I leave em on so I can call people by name
I don't have a need to turn them on since I'm usually the smallest one around 😂 👌
So eat my nameplate, average size scum
opaque hawk
I have had to turn off nameplates recently because I’m getting nameplates in my face
Discord didn’t auto scroll and this is perfect
slate verge
@languid beacon if thats true i'll just stay orange forever 😂
never uploading anything
opaque hawk
It doesn’t matter 👍
indigo fern
👌
languid beacon
my biggest QoL feature would be to have nameplates momentarily appear when menu is open, when you have nameplates off
[and fix generic walk animations, i'm just going to punctuate all my feature requests with that]
languid beacon
Some people are just destined to be known user forever. https://i.redd.it/o5lu2g1ckon11.png
indigo fern
Lmao, happens
When can we change to any color under current rank? Blue is so gud
That would be nice
languid beacon
It would be neat if Trusted could hide as known or User, but I understand it as just opting out of the trust system entirely (before trust system everyone was green)
vocal shard
Anyone knows were i can get a avatar whit a weapon or powers on Oculus Quest for free
languid beacon
They can exist, but since Quest avatars can't use sounds or particles,most people don't bother
you could probably get some neat effects with only geometry...
vocal shard
Ok think you
indigo fern
Was never a fan of the green, but I did like how sharp the old nameplates were
languid beacon
I liked the green. felt virtual
indigo fern
I guess lmao
The main thing that made the game feel virtual to me was the loading music, bring back partially offline ;-;
Just hearing that before getting into the game 👌 👌
opaque hawk
Part of the secretly purple gang to I see @languid beacon
indigo fern
Wait adeon, same name in game right?
languid beacon
Me? VRC name = Adeon Writer
indigo fern
No I meant the other adeon 
languid beacon
Yeah the just "Adeon" one isn't me
indigo fern
That was just gonna lead to a bad joke, was gonna say Adeon Reader
Might make an alt and name it that
vocal shard
Tupper is typing
covert chasm
Hey Nitro Boosters, you can now use external emoji in all channels. Please keep our rules in mind when using external emoji on our Discord
vocal shard
👀
ruby needle
vocal shard
Nice edits lul
covert chasm
yeah i forgot its called "external" not "custom" in Discord verbiage
vocal shard
Indeed
faint skiff
Oh wow, I'm Known User already
hollow breach
wait what they can!?!?!?
time to nitro boost
and get back my nitro
in that order :3
languid beacon
Oh nice. 
covert chasm
ruby needle
covert chasm
I think I'm also going to update most of our emoji from having VRC_ to vrc at the beginning because having underscores in emoji names is 
rigid crescent
;-; i pinged vrpill like the faq said and never got a response on my emote
Global emotes tho, worth the boost
ruby needle
time for a sip party
covert chasm
Yes, we're also letting Discord mods define an emoji for themselves if they so choose
i want a tupSip dammit
where's rad
i need to throw money at them
ruby needle
did you change the prefix? 
indigo fern
vrc in front now
covert chasm
yeah we're standardizing prefixes for newer emoji
"legacy" ones we'll keep the same
indigo fern
Can we get that 2017 emote back, I think you had it in for like a solid hour
covert chasm
why have a 2017 emote when you can have a 2018 emote
indigo fern
Don't tease us like that, that's not nice
At least not until we have a certain noodle emote 👀
ruby needle
why have a 2017 or 2018 emoji if you can have an emoji of the future
languid beacon
Just make an announcement: Udon is released! As a discord emoji.
indigo fern
And make sure to get Dan to ping everyone
vocal shard
covert chasm
ruby needle
Tupper you're going too far 
vocal shard
Lol nice
covert chasm
am i
rigid crescent
its time
languid beacon
Beautiful
languid beacon
That’s going to get used so much in #avatar-optimization
meager solstice
Gotta have that “high quality” audio
languid beacon
make a voice channel but no one can speak in it and it’s just the lowest quality hold music
placid umbra
@tawny ore you can thank @ebon magnet , I really like it
indigo fern
@ebon magnet thanks
covert chasm
we'll just stick a bot in there that constantly plays this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-SIManm_Qo
at 8kbps
indigo fern
can it play partially offline instead
languid beacon
That's exactly the song I was thinking of I didn't know it's name
tawdry widget
I do it for the MemeCred™
vestal pier
Best emote tbh
ebon magnet
idle elm
(content ID worked on that video)
idle elm
BlueASIS: Nope, it always goes by content, else you could quite easily spoof
vestal pier
So theres no chance its a manual claim?
idle elm
I hope they listened too 😄
placid umbra
vocal shard
Omg
covert chasm
tawny ore
This is the best
ruby needle
oh my 
vestal pier
- best
fossil geyser
Umm
rancid vessel
VRChat just sent me to my home world again when trying to join someone in a world with 25 limit and 9 people in it.. >_> This happened twice in a row and its annoying.
Any way to fix?
languid beacon
Ask your friends to move to another copy of the instance - sometimes it just bugs out and won't let you join it
If it's what I'm thinking of, you get in for about 4 seconds then get booted out
icy tulip
I can’t even go to two worlds without the game freezing up and crashing. ;; Is that my computer or is VRChat just broken for me?
ruby needle
what CPU / GPU and how much ram do you have
vestal pier
Ram isnt CPU or GPU
faint skiff
Looks like the whole team's around. Is it update day again already?
Or is it "Accidentally delete all the Quest avatars" again 2: Electric Boogaloo 😉
@rough pulsar Have you found the passthrough cameras to be hot garbage?
frozen prawn
This vr lag is killing me ;3;
vocal shard
anyone here?
silk shadow
hey can someone help me find my bottleneck i i don't understand y my fps is low i have a lowend pc and it's not usesing 100% of my cpu
last moon
depend on ur specs
silk shadow
i have a lowend i have a i5-2400 and a gtx1050ti but it should at lest be using 100% of my cpu
i'm getting a i5-3470 next week
last moon
the cpu itself is old yes, considering the ram is capped at 1333 speed, which with ram speed help alot
rough pulsar
@faint skiff Nope.Other than they seem to take a fair bit of time to start up they're pretty good quality and generally work well for me.
silk shadow
so will a i5-3470 help with fps
pallid rain
@silk shadow Even that 3470 isn't going to do great, especially in VRChat specifically. Also your 1050ti is not a VR-Ready GPU, it's a great GPU for 1080p gaming but going with something like a 1070 will increase your quality of life a lot.
Generally the lowest CPU I recommend for VRChat is at least a 6th gen i5 or a Ryzen 5. The Ryzen 5 2600 is $139.99 on Newegg and if you have a Micro Center near you it's only $119.99 on there. Also an A320 motherboard will only run you about $60 on Newegg. They'll be about $20 at a Micro Center.
I'd really also recommend getting faster RAM, you're probably on DDR2 which is very outdated, upgrading your PC overall in the CPU/Motherboard/RAM department would have a huge increase on your performance and you'll probably see more results out of that rather than getting a better GPU.
silk shadow
i can't get a new pc and the ram is dd3
ddr3
i'm am stuck with a hp compaq pro 6300 sff so a 1050 ti is the best i can get same with the cpu
i can't get a new pc till i move out so that about 2-3years
pallid rain
Yikes! That's unfortunate. The 3470 is only about 10-15% faster than the 2400, so it's not gonna be a huge bump in performance, but it should give you noticeably higher FPS in games like VRChat.
But also, slowly turning your current PC into a new one isn't a bad idea either! Your main limiting factor is most likely that tiny HP case. You could buy a cheap, standard-sized case and move all of your components into it, that way you have room to upgrade in the future and you have a nicer looking box too!
silk shadow
no if i got a new case i would need a new motherboard because its only works with the hp case and then i'll need to get a new cpu and a new psu because the psu is a hp only as well as new ram so i would need a new pc
i was playing at 20 fps and it was fine and with no reprojection
obsidian herald
My Internet went down just as I was about to enter The Matrix (VRChat).
pallid rain
I see, the BTX form factor is what your motherboard uses. You might be nearing your limit then, I am pretty sure that since you have LGA 1155 you could go up to an i7-3770k in that motherboard. It's about 20-25% faster than your 2400, so you'd have a very noticeable increase in your performance. At that point you'd probably be out of options besides getting more and faster RAM.
worn flax
where da thicc girls
silk shadow
ok i brought a i5-3470 for 41 nzd two days ago tho so i'll have to see how much a i7-3770k costs
what ram speed should i look for because i don't have a lot of money
pallid rain
I'd recommend DDR3 1600 mhz. That's a pretty good middle ground speed for RAM, but RAM speed doesn't actually have much of an impact on performance on Intel CPUs. A great example of this is an old Linus Tech Tips video showing many different speeds compared.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWgzA2C61z4
silk shadow
theres one for 168.40 nzd so 110 usd but because i just got a i5-3470 on the way its only 12% better
pallid rain
Right, but if you could return your 3470 and go with that 3770k, you'd have a great upgrade. Plus, another 10-15% will help quite a bit in something like VRChat which is a CPU muncher.
silk shadow
i might stay with the i5-3470 can wait till Christmas because even if i return it i won't have enough money to get it away way
i can't seem to get motion sickness
if i was to make a budget pc for vrchat what parts would be good
pallid rain
What budget did you have in mind?
pallid rain
Well in 2-3 years all of our modern day parts will be discontinued, so odds are something like a $700 brand new PC today would be a $400 used parts PC in a few years.
But as of right now, about a $750 USD to $850 USD budget is what I recommend for a great VR gaming experience, but it also depends on how much parts actually cost where you live as well.
silk shadow
what cpu and gpu and ram would you recommend
silk shadow
lol idk this is not until 2-3 years we are talking
pallid rain
Right now I'd recommend a Ryzen 5 2600, a GTX 1060 6GB or a Radeon RX 580 with 16GB of some decent RAM (Corsair LPX or G.Skill Ripjawz, etc).
If someone was on a tight budget they could skimp out in a few places, but that's going to be your best entry-point for VR.
silk shadow
cool thx for your help
wow thats only $974.43 nzd here
thats 623.73 usd
if i had a good paying job i could get one
obsidian herald
Before my Internet went out again, I had a ping of over 700.
silk shadow
Lol till I fix my WiFi I use to get 3000 ping now it's down to 140
vocal shard
blocking all shaders, custom animations and particles from avatars but I still managed to get crashed. what else can I do besides block avatars entirely? (does that even work?)
rotund wren
@vocal shard Currently there is a way around for them to crash you still using avatars. I will not go into detail as it will advertise it but a small amount of users have realised the flaw. Nothing you can do but hope for the best.
grim path
im considering to get a headset
but idk how well my laptop would run
ive got a i7 7700hq and a gtx 1060 in it
subtle trout
Check the specs of your computer and the specs of the headset you want to see if they are compatible.
subtle trout
That depends on two things; your screen's overall HZ and your connection speed.
If you have a screen lower than 65hz you are going to be at a max of 40-70 fps with 3 people or less in a room.
grim path
no but
subtle trout
Otherwise you are looking at between 16-40 fps
grim path
doesnt the fps you get depend on the specs of your computer....
subtle trout
Yes, and the Hz of your screen is what counts.
grim path
ok
subtle trout
That's irrelevant.... because the output is the same irrgardless. Your computer has a set Hz, and so does your headset; which is usually the same as a typical screen> 65hz.
I have a headset, and I run it on a laptop.
grim path
yeah i know i just want to know if i will be hitting that max refresh rate with the specs of my pc
for the fps
subtle trout
You will not ever hit the peak. You will more than likely be in the middle to the bottom depending on how many people are in the room.
grim path
yeah but what if i have a good computer
subtle trout
Dm me and I will give you more information.
ember bridge
Hello , I am looking for friends to play vrchat with . I am 13 .
subtle trout
This is something you wont know unless you can see your fps ingame- google wont tell you.
ember bridge
guys, is there a specific chat for looking for friends to play with?
vernal forge
13 ?
woven steppe
The game used to have that built in... called the hub world, everyone used to spawn in it (until you specifically tell it to not to)... Now VRChat spawns everyone in their own private home world by default...
faint skiff
@grim path I have an i7-8700 and a 2080 Ti and only hit max FPS if I'm on my own, in a world with no mirrors.
faint skiff
It defaults to "VRHigh" afaik
woven steppe
do those settings actually change anything?
faint skiff
Changing a bunch of stuff AFAIK, anti-aliasing being one of the big ones.
(which it's a shame I can't turn down because Steam's already doing it's own SS)
willow stump
@subtle trout send unity raytracing legacy shader thanks
dusk mesa
LMAO
willow stump
what's an integer btw?
tranquil cobalt
@sudden nacelle In 2019? another word for AI
willow stump
vr with a laptop? big yikes
dusk mesa
It works, i saw many people using it plus fullbody
grim path
Currently im running into a problem that wont let me launch the game
dusk mesa
Depends on your laptop
willow stump
hmm 🤔
grim path
I7 7700hq gtx 1060
dusk mesa
Whats the problem?
grim path
When i open the game
The starting menu trys to open for like 5 mins
And runs at a framepper minute
How did you fix it
Aw
Yeah
And the registry too
Dang
Its fine
subtle trout
Stop harassing me. Period.... go look at the unity asset store and stop making yourself look like a fool.
tawny ore
That came out of nowhere, literally.
subtle trout
An if statement is a programming conditional statement that, if proved true, performs a function or displays information. Below is a general example of an if statement, not specific to any particular programming language
And the Legacy Shader package is a free package from the Unity asset store.
Figure that out for yourselves.
tawny ore
switch (potato)
{
case 3:
message("Unpotato");
break;
default:
message("Mighty potato");
}
It's been a while since I've done some switchin'
faint skiff
@subtle trout Who are you talking to?
tawny ore
I questioned that in my head but didn't dare ask; because I fear being schooled on variables and simplistic statements in programming
faint skiff
@willow stump https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/Built-inShaderGuide.html
spiral seal
Bruh this gurl Amanda coming from nowhere with those messages
willow stump
yeah so it's built in, not in the unity asset store retard
dusk mesa
Who is Amanda o.o
willow stump
that's @subtle trout 's name
faint skiff
Not sure why you're calling me a retard. I never said it was on the store, I was just pointing you in the right direction, but it looks like you two are made for each other...
willow stump
@faint skiff nah fam you don't even know the full story, this bitch came up to us and started being toxic for no reason 😂
@faint skiff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrrBwUKL_Kg
inner cape
are you bringing drama into here?
willow stump
no 😄
tawny ore
This is my new favourite emoji
inner cape
dusk mesa
inner cape
Paul did it
tawny ore
Ssshhh, keep it down
spiral seal
Reeee
dusk mesa
mood
tawny ore
this is me
snow wadi
subtle trout
Want screen shots of my computer screen? Are you a weeb and just use your phone for discord?? Script Kiddie.
inner cape
what
dusk mesa
What has that even to do with each other, what
wise perch
....what....
subtle trout
Rusiuu has been reported for harassment. This is the last time I am stating it- he has gone to the extent of stalking me on here and doxxing my information without my consent.
That is a felony to defame and dox.
snow wadi
...what?
dusk mesa
You have everything linked on your Discord Profile, why is that stalking? 🤔
spiral seal
Fax
dusk mesa
and this is a public Server.
subtle trout
Stalking, the crime of following another person against his or her wishes and harassing that person. The status of stalking as a criminal offense is relatively new, having emerged in the early 1990s, although the behaviours that characterize stalking are not
spiral seal
You're making it easy by having your full name on your profile
snow wadi
Starting to think this person is copy pasting.
subtle trout
Understand irregardless of 'how easy' something is- doesnt make it ok, or legal or ethical or moral. You are in the wrong regardless.
willow stump
@subtle trout you can't report me for harassment 😂 you forget I have evidence of you telling me and my friends to kill ourselves
snow wadi
This isn't the place to complain about it.
subtle trout
Just know, everyone who has been involved has also been reported.
Yes I can, and have.
Would you now like to talk to a lawyer?
dusk mesa
I never did anything 🤷
willow stump
ye sure
dusk mesa
We can
spiral seal
Bruh Amanda Dixson go chill wtf
snow wadi
<@&397642795457970181> Help o.o/
willow stump
imagine getting a lawyer 😂
dusk mesa
You did tell us to kill ourself.
spiral seal
Take the beef out of here
dusk mesa
In VRC. You should get banned for that.
subtle trout
Stop making stipulations that dont exist.
willow stump
it's literally on video
dusk mesa
Its in the video.
willow stump
🤦
spiral seal
Lmfao
subtle trout
Oh yea?
dusk mesa
We have proof
willow stump
dusk mesa
That isnt even Ruisuu
subtle trout
And for you to pick a side, means you shouldnt be on vrchat.
dusk mesa
LMAO
subtle trout
I bet you $100 it is.
willow stump
I'm not the one recording
subtle trout
He recorded me after antagonizing me.
inner cape
personal matters should be taken outside of the server. stop talking about this.
spiral seal
Imagine real-time lighting in vrc omegalul
subtle trout
It's called DYNAMIIC.
willow stump
😂
tawny ore
<@&397642795457970181> Uhh... this is awkward.
willow stump
imagine not knowing shit about unity 😂
spiral seal
And standard shader has specular, so idk why you're saying "it's not standard, it's specular"
subtle trout
It isnt.
tawny ore
Mini don't join in XD They're both narky
subtle trout
I can prove it to you right now.
spiral seal
Aight, go ahead while I get some breakfast
spiral seal
Nah you do whatever, I'm fucking hungry my dude
willow stump
@subtle trout send the shader then
inner cape
🤡
dusk mesa
Mini, i dont wanna lose you, dont go 😭
spiral seal
I'm not too active there, I drop by every now and then.
willow stump
y-bot haven gang rise up
spiral seal
My primary groups are Moonlight Eden, CLFD & LAS
dusk mesa
Never saw them talking there
inner cape
no idea about any of these
dusk mesa
Send inv
spiral seal
If I get to know you better perhaps 👌
queen mango
What has happened here?
willow stump
@queen mango https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrrBwUKL_Kg
spiral seal
Denying accusations with video proof
willow stump
watch this for context
inner cape
people bringing their drama into here, that's what happened