#vrchat-general-2
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Does not excuse all other things you did so far
@faint skiff compartmentalization; it can be done with practice; although sadness and the like probably cannot be switched off.
:^(
So it is..
baka


Beat it with a tree if you have to D:

chat has calmed down you can come back
thanks dad
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@faint skiff I forgot to share our selfies from last night vrc session gimme a bit
@inner cape
@snow wadi kk
uuh, thanks, natek?
dude thats free pizza??
mine

natek is the type to be your lil housewife and bring you food
Open rant. I have heard that Networked IK in the open beta is even worse. I'm criticizing the choice of priorities for the features to be updated for the game. Restoration of the IK system back to it's glory before Networked IK was reintroduced should be the absolute number one priority and the next patch should not be released until this is done. I can wait for audio improvements, but I can't wait for what is arguably the one system that defines the immersion value. I want to stop having to look at my friends moving like robots. Their low update rate, interpolated movement is extremely jarring and kills immersion to the point that I keep being reminded that I'm in VR. VR is a form of escapism for me and the fact that Networked IK makes it harder for me to escape reality is awful. Please improve the IK system.
heh
:holyshit
timing pog
So you heard it but have not tested it yet?
another one bites the dust
See the heavily upvoted canny post "Networked IK lagging and falling behind" comments
Link em, don't just say it.
Ok
Ok
natek you're being a unit
thank you
(P.S. Network IK wasn't touched in Open Beta)
Lmao
This is why i ask these things. Look at the date it got made š
That was when the IK got first implemented
nah, the ik is good, just try to lower your ping
ouch
šš»
you didn't have to remind me that š
One Month
Still, The IK might be shit but yelling at staff because you think they changed the IK again for something worse is wrong and silly
I'm trying to stay vocal about Networked IK because I want this to be the top priority for the dev team. IK is very important to me for immersion.
If you want to shit on a system and get them to fix it do it right
Do your part.
networked ik is here to stay, btw
I've done mine, I voted and posted on the canny demonstrating how bad it is a handful of times with videos
I pressed the upvote button on the canny, I did my part.
the performance gain is great for quest
They tested it out a while back but it was too unstable, they pushed it out again now for quest. they were going to do it eventually anyway
Networked IK can work much better than now, when it was used late 2018 the only issue was that it was nuking their servers
whew late 2018 network ik was lit
Yea it lit there servers on fire
the first time they published it, it was basically ddosing their servers, people got disconnected left and right, it was great
Remember when everyone looked like they jacked up their elbows back in 2018?
Good times :3
wonder what are the changes between the 2018 version and this one, apart form the update rate

P2P networking.
should we change to p2p ?
If you want to lose all your users, sure
p2p it is,lets go!
p2p would be amazing for the purposes of appreciating just how much we do not want it compared to what we have now
[cough]
[wheeze]
[asphyxiation]
life of a mobile user
...dafuq did I miss? o.o;
me

Does network ik fall more behind with more people on the room? Latency tests with one person put it at less than half a second
ow crap this reminds me, you sent me that gif yesterday, adeon
I did not ask for it
literally sending out gifs of nanachis hole to people

Nanachi hole wtf
Haha
Yes, but Nanachi's have a... second hole.
(cue the Lord of the Rings "Yes, but what about second" meme)
Uh
well, 3 in total, ears are considered 2 holes
Mouth?
It's also genderless!
we too wholesome for that
talks about erp
fast forward now
sorry too wholesome
dejavu at its finest
is there a way to update your youtube.dl of the game, because videos stoped working again for me, it is seriously so super annoying
there was like a start command for that, but cant remember it
replace youtube-dl.exe inside streammingasset would be way of doing it but with your own risk plz
i know about replacing it
the thing is, a week ago i had that issue with no videos loading, than a friend helped me out, i replaced / updated the youtube-dl and they started working again perfectly fine, but now the last 2 days, the videos stoped working again
that is such an annoying thing, why isnt it automaticly updating?
Youtube-DL just got updated again yesterday anyway
can i download the updated youtube-dl somewhere?
wonder which one is which
Just press resync/restart buttom after waiting half a minutes also sometimes play as well.
yes, from official website of youtube-dl
i did that, never worked on my end
Most of video player do not cache much before start playing. (Especially line is slow it will fail)
Some video player cache for long seconds which sometimes better in slow line connection condition.
@inner cape Iām being bulliād :[
If VRChat is being insanely slow I actually recommend cycling power on your router to get a new end point connection it made vrc work instantly once the net came back
At least that fixes the never ending login screens / fghjkl notification / black portals / no friends list / non-loading SDK stuff
Really
Oh that good to know
@languid beacon you are not far from the truth
but you'll never reach it
kore ga.. requiem.. da
MUDAMUDA!
rollingu stonesu da
no
he doesnt
welp
Oh dear
hes tired of me bullying him so he looking for new friends 
this is way too familiar, huh bully
Honestly
also yeah, random chat is prolly better if you just wanna chat about anything
Because power cycling a router is going to fix everyone in the instance from dying from the server issues??? Lol
What
Penis and vagina
wtf
I ish confuzzled
They are for watching other people sleep >_>
Naps?
Comas?
Just standing there looking like a total freak >_>;;;
I'm not a weirdo, just have surprise idle animations >v>
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its getting kind of old having to use a vpn to play this game. The ddosing issue is out of hand.
how are all these people getting DDOSed lol
I mean, I know HOW but why
Like they don't just pick random people most of the time
They're probably confrontational
Obviously that's no reason to DDOS someone and the person doing it is still in the wrong, but still
Hundreds to a thousand+ hours in publics and I've never been DDOSed
Same
I use vpn anyways
even before protection i was rarely crashed too
Thats because you dont go to public worlds
Only time someone doxxed me was so they could send me a present for my birthday
Ive never seen you in a public
Ow yea forgot there are only 2 public worlds
Which
"I haven't seen you in public worlds, therefore you don't go and have never been to public worlds."
And are those hundreds of hours recent? Since the massive influx of desktop users and kids?
I saw Enverex on my alt lol
I have to block all the kids with xbox mics
Also what's with alts on something like this? It's... a bit creepy. It's the virtual equivilent of wandering around in a trenchcoat with a mask on so no-one knows who you are. It's not an MMO with levels..
I mean they're over the course of a year and a half or so, less so towards the later half but I was literally just in one giving a guy who just got VR some tips
I legit spend 4 nights, over 35 hours in only public worlds that where full and only the Pug and the new small house map that i cant recall the name of
No crashes, no ddosing, no being insulted personally.
Only world shaders but that was a thing before we had panic mode even
I use it to do survey stuff mostly. Originally it was just a test to see how long it took me to get upload priveleges just out of curiosity
When env drops by he takes shelter under my chest for safety from my lunatic friends that show up out of nowhere
I see some assholes once in a while, they just get blocked and ignored by most people other than the brainlets that need to confront them
So where thouse hours just lucky hours?
well using anecdotal evidence isn't really convincing
The kids screaming over xbox mics
Apparently mine are lucky hours as well
Isn't all evidence anecdotal evidence for this topic though?
Actually now that you mention it, I was at a world and literally within 5 minutes some guy comes in and starts flying and going through walls...reminded me why I don't go to public worlds.
Loln
Flying can be done without hacking same for walls š¤·
If my friends list downtime for VR wasn't so early in the day, I'd probably do more survey stuff like I was doing before
well if you want my anecdotal there's plenty of people crashing/disconnecting less so ddosing
Just have an anti
but yeah rarely do i notice people randomly getting crashed or w/e but it happens
what do you expect from those type of people that roam publics
@umbral reef That would have been MAYBE ok if the person didn't also have malicious shaders as well.
At the same time we have a large amount of users who claim there pc got blown up by VRC but we never got proof for that lmao
they just want a reaction they could care less about who
Had a minecraft avatar if I recall
their decision could be purely based on the color or style of avatar š¤·
a flip of the switch or mood
@snow wadi There's a lot to hide under lol
Hnng
I mean one dude flying around = block or hide avatar, oh he's gone forever
@rigid crescent Where was I? Pug or Cat?
Was this during the tiny person incident?
I don't know what that is so probably not
i just ran upstairs but recognized the avatar downstairs on my way up
and im assuming no one else but you has that. i have nameplates off all the time so maybe not
The robe is generic, but no-one else should have the wings and such. Depending on which avatar you're referring to.
Imma get some noms for dinner, brb
kk
@sterile drift Congrats on becoming a render engine on blender 2.8!
Im so proud of you. :^)
Mate
That legit actually infuriates me bc now people are gonna make that joke so much
I'm never gonna hear the end of it LOl

Xd
I mean you did pick a Pokemon as a name, so you can't really claim originality on that front.. lol
you're welcome
Hooray, my straws arrived. Now I can get drunk in VR like everyone else without having to take my headset off!
Anyone have an Oculus Rift 1st gen
Yes
Oh im trying to get other peoples opnions on cost and if i should buy it with the controllers and sensors
Do you mean DK1 or CV1? I assume you mean CV1.
Im not sure i think its CV1
The original Rift and Vive aren't really worth it unless you can get them really cheap.
(vs other headsets, I mean)
I saw on ebay the max for them are like 280 which seems good
That's fair enough then
Ok is it worth getting it for like 300 or not that much
CV1 maybe like 200-250 US
they were on sale for like 310-350 in like december
oculus S is pretty good despite what some people say
i'd say the screen alone is worth it but idk
Rift S is better than rift by all aspects, as long as you have a average IPD
FYI for everyone on Rift S - go sign up for PTC update; static flashes and taser microphone are fixed
Noted.
taser microphone
Thats how some people sounded
And I still hear it today and i have to tell people to update their hmd
100%
Would you be a sweetheart and drop me a small walkthrough in DM on how to do so? ā¤
I'll do it here for maximum help-potential for everyone:
In oculus software go iinto settings, then in top right click beta and enable public test channel
It will then tell you "OY, MATE... MAAATE... THERE'S AN UPDATE FOR YE"; you let it do its thang and when you return to VR; your noodle will be blown and you'll feel things you've never felt before...
Do the above to fix static flashes, static'y mic on Rift S
Will my boobs jiggle out of existence? D:
I dont think that's an oculus problem

I got a vive for ~$220, other than the headset being a little front-heavy, it's been great
I had an Acer WMR headset before, the resolution's lower compared to that, but everything else is better imo
220 bucks? That's a steal o.o
While the res is better on WMR the tracking is FAR better on Vive
Yeah, came with a DAS too! albeit one of the headphones are broken so I can't use the actual headphones, but I won't complain much
One of the trackpads has the problem where I can't click on the right and top-right, but after I found out I don't have to hold down on the trackpad to move it hasn't really been that big of a problem for me
The tracking's definitely better (Although not ideal, I still need to put one of my base stations in a better spot), the contrast is better, and I like how higher quality everything is
On my Acer headset the velcro was peeling off the headset, and it had a few dead pixels
I'm not talking about the foam (although the included foam was sort of starting to fall apart), the actual like velcro that was attached to the headset was peeling off, so I couldn't really take off the face foam without being really careful
I will say as far as WMR and Vive, the tracking on WMR's controllers while the controllers were in view was pretty much indistinguishable from the vive's, although being able to have my controllers rest on my sides without having to worry if they're in view or not's wonderful
In terms of comfort only of course
I've been thinking of getting the knuckles at some point, probably a few months from now
I like that the setup's sort of modular in that I can use the knuckles with the Vive
or if some madman really wanted to, the Index with the Vive wands
I wish I could demo the index. Iāll probably never get one because I hate risk
I need to try it
I'm curious about the Vive cosmos. They keep teasing just a bit, but leave you wanting more info
So turns out I forgot to dual channel my RAM so it was performing about half as well as it should have been. Whoops.
Will be interesting to see if I get a few more frames in the Pug now
Another thing I appreciate over WMR that I don't actually see mentioned too often is the direct integration with SteamVR, there were a few longstanding bugs with the WMR portal that often annoyed me, such as if SteamVR stayed frozen for too long or something, it'd get 'detached' from WMR (SteamVR's view would stay in place in space while the rest of my view would be normal, kind of like if it was displaying on a TV) and a few moments later it'd just go black, and the only way to fix it would be to exit and relaunch SteamVR
As long as vive Cosmos comes with controllerās with analog sticks. Cosmos is dead on arrival if they expect me to buy vive wands
Cosmos has almost exactly touch controllers
Is there pics?
Another's that if I used a Win32 app in VR, usually the keyboard would be off in some random direction in space and I couldn't use it, and if I restarted my computer with the headset still connected, if I launched the WMR portal the headset's rotation would be offset by 90 degrees
@odd beacon Index with Vive wands is a common setup for some games e.g. beat sabre and some gun games
Oh really? Huh
Yeah, they were revealed a while ago, and they have capacitive sensors last I heard
If you're upgrading from the Vive to the Index, you can just use whichever controllers you feel like at the time.
Anyway I'm just glad I don't have to deal with the WMR portal's bugginess/bloat anymore
Howdy
Although I will say WMR's motion reprojection is MUCH better than SteamVR's motion smoothing
@vocal shard Were they designed by Razor? lol
Oh god
Lol
Yeah that does not look great
Seems they learned a thing or 2 from oculus
I don't mind the design, I kinda like it, it just immediately reminded me of Razor's stuff.
I don't really like the look of the bits on the ring but other than that I like it
The just wanted a different tracking design than constellation. I think they would be good
Well Insight tracking in my opinion is perfectly acceptable if not better in some cases than lighthouse
When would it be better?
Object loss doesnāt go flying into space for one
I'd be sad to lose that as it always makes me laugh when it happens
That's not something specific to insight though, more of how tracking loss is handled. SteamVR could be less tolerant of tracking data outside of certain parameters to reduce that effect.
Now that it actually uses its IMUās properly insight is fine. Hands can go behind you etc
I don't really mind it personally, but I can see how it could be disorienting to a decent amount of people
Now when the headset loses tracking slightly and jerks in some direction somewhat, that can suck
But that's more due to the fact that one of my lighthouses isn't in the best spot, and even then it happens very rarely
Happens more often with the controllers but again, that's my problem
incoming everyone defending their systems. Hunker down!

Lol
I wish the Vive had a forehead support like the WMR headsets do
For flight sims I honestly wish I had inside out tracking. My desk is in a corner opposite my base stations so my poor vive really struggles.
That happens to me occasionally on classic rift headset tracking but I found quest tracking is far more solid than classic rift
I assume Rift S is the same
But I have never used rift S
Yeah rift S is supposed to be better.
flight in vr is my arch enemy I do not wish to ever encounter
I can do smooth turning all day. I can go flying in an x-wing. I can sit in a avatar chair and be shaken around. But I absolutely cannot do any kind of land vehicle or roller coaster/train
Smooth turning Master Race
I can do smooth turning, but I prefer comfort turning
Smooth turning doesnāt even flinch me
I like smooth turning
If anything snap is a little startling
It only makes me sick if I keep spinning
Itās hard to get used to but itās just a instinctual negative reaction you can undo and then itās fine
smooth turning is cool and all but have you tried smooch turning
I prefer using advanced settings rotation lock over smooth turning. Something about actually moving my body with the turn makes it feel much better
I have actually unbound my right stick movement entirely in an attempt to force me to turn irl instead.
What does rotation lock do?
I canāt stand games where you look sideways and movement keeps the old direction . Makes me ill. Sansar does that. Had to stop immediately
What about when movement direction depends on controller rotation?
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The way vrc has done it is exactly what I expect vr to be like and what is most comfortable for me and I find it annoying when anything deviates
@languid beacon rotation lock causes your controller's yaw to be locked in world space; if you then turn your hand, the world spins with it
Basically grabbing the world and turning it around you
It's useful for redirected walking but it's also useful for just general purpose precise turning
Canāt predict if Iād hate it or not
Then go use it and find out?
Sounds like it will give me me ptsd of DK2 with mouse rotation
Only one way to find out
Iāll get my brown bag ready š·
oh are y'all talking about the movement in VRC?
locomotion, specifically the turning bit
Because I agree. Head locomotion definitely makes the most sense. I use to play pavlov on hand locomotion and then I switched it to head becuase I'm more comfortable with that from VRC and it made movement in that game way more intuitive. Also, I HATE snap turning
snap turning is alright, imo best turning if for whatever reason you cant turn around yourself
What's wrong with smooth turning?
smooth turning has always felt gross to me
way too unnatural for absolutely no reason
implying comfort turning is natural
Anyone use playspace mover through advanced settings?
Need some help getting it setup
Smooth turning will (at least at first) trigger instinctual panic in most people. Which most will feel as either pain or panic, or general uneasiness. (Different from dizziness) but if it is kept up they can hurl as the brain thinks it ate something toxic.
hey i was checking some public worlds with some friends and we found a world that clearly break the rules, i already report it but i think it might need to be dealt asap. is there a mod i can speak in private ?
nope
What's wrong with it? (the world, not turning)
basically your best bet is emailing them about the world in #moderation-reports
nsfw stuff
Most avatars then, lol
like a lot of nsfw stuff
Use the email moderation@vrchat.com instead of the ingame system
Yeah nsfw stuff is not allowed in public worlds. People really seem to not get this no matter how much itās said
anyone get playspace mover working with index controllers?
can i just bind it via steam input? none of the buttons do anything on the index for moving playspace by default
You canāt bind it with steam input. It needs to be configured as command line in playspace mover itself
Get rid of playspace mover & Input Emulator and use Advanced Settings' mover. Has full support for SteamVR Input and the bindings can be configured to whatever you want.
You can find a link to the correct branch of advanced settings in the pinned messages in #full-body-tracking
Among other things, yes.
I keep hearing about it and forget to install it
Pinned topic is "How to assume the default 'lay down with your legs crossed'" pose which is required of all FBT users.
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Speaking of hooves, Gallium seems to have distinctly non-human feet hiding in that bodysuit of his.
Goddamn 0Riginal rotate your photos š¤£
The feet are just kinda strange, probably to support the armour that normally goes over it.
gal can stand on walls, everyone knows that
Got it. Ćriginal met Gallium and they did butt stuff. Marked in the journal forever.

Not what happened, and yet I'm not going to correct you. Excercise your right to be wrong!
sounds like a wild ride
Well I just need to be wrong again and then the laws of mathematics dictate that they'll cancel each other out.
Gall next time you find him you gotta clap him for taking photo's the illegal way
why be right when you can be left
Why be a pentagon when you can be an apple?
you guys know when you do something by mistake but you try to fix it but fails everytime
but I learned something new
sounds like blender&unity
No this happened VRchat/Discord
Nothing teaches you as much as failure.
currently in blender and thats exactly what's happening right now
No matter what happens to you in life even if it Breaks your heart you'll always have friends that supports you
I have 104 friends and half of them play VRchat
yeah eventually you and your friends decay and die
technically
so not quite "always"
I am 19 years old about to be 20 in 2 days
hell yeah dude!
But what if you upload yourself to the cloud 
Can't decay there
Oh and happy early birthday
woah i wanna live the life of luxury in the cloud
That's kinda Impossible
Thanks btw
I actually have one Last Pokemon Avatar planned before I completely start off with new avatars
And I also have it in a custom card form
Nicknamed Super-Greninja Ash-Greninja but with green and brown with a Purple Shuriken on it's back
what if you get deleted from the cloud
Then You'll die
cloud murder oh no
And Cease to exist
the future is dark
That is if You put your own soul into it or your mind that is I don't really know where your soul is located at
should probably transition to #general-media
Yeah good Idea
me too
uhm little question are the Video Players Broke?
How do I stop unity from re-importing the same old vrcsdk when I'm trying to import the new one? Having to wait a while after its been imported to delete it again.
video players are not working for me as well
hmmm then i think its broke xD
please look up #vrchat-support for SDK issue steps, it tells you how to properly reinstall it
Video players can break from time to time due to youtube changing stuff on their end
yeah its just youtube changing, often times the videos i wanna see always works
and vrchat can“t handle it then till it is Updated? @ruby needle
correct
aaaah oke thx
you can manually update youtube-dl else the patch will need to provide the newest binary
okay then i will wait 
thats one cursed tenryuu
Deleted everything by accident and lost 9 hours of work with editing textures š I recovered it all just gotta re-delete the extra stuff I added. thx for the help though
Oof
Can I request next time Tupper ats everyone that I get sent the "You are about to notify this many people"
why exactly? Do you want the message specifically as a screenshot or just want to know how many people here are
cus currently thats 86510
vrchat messing up
yes, in this Discord
yeah vrc actually has a large discord following
ok
so I added an emote and music but for some reason it stops like halfway through
it doesn't do the full emote (about 90s long) and stops abruptly in the middle of it
yet I have an emote on one avatar that's way longer than that
longer that where it's ending anyway (the full one is close to 2m or 120s) yet this one ends halfway at about 45-50s everytime for no reason
vrchat has been extremely today, for me and MANY others. is something wrong with the servers?
it looks like it but only to people who do avatars it looks like
petition for shrug emote in-game
Repair for connection problem still under going... Maybe taking rest of week...
Is it fine to post pictures of avatars that Iām gonna make public in a world to see if itās worth publishing?
In the avatars section
i don't see why not
In a way itās kinda like advertising
Emote have a time limits
does anyone know where this avatar is from? my friend has lost it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/554438623949488138/605920863224594451/unknown.png message me pls
Oh I only just looked back. @ruby needle I just want an image to meme that's just like "YOU ARE ABOUT TO MAKE A GIGANTIC MISTAKE"
Anyone know how to get vrchat to actually load the tutorial?
stuck on the "welcome! before you enter the vrchat universe, we'll send you to a short tutorial to learn the basics." Next button literally reopens the dialog
emotes have time limits? ok then why does it let me make a 2m long emote on one avatar but another avatar only plays the emote animation up to 40-50s
wdym they have time limits thats bs
@rough pewter Try reinstall software, most likely software mulfunctioning.
Already tried - was troubleshooting a 10fps issue with a new gfx card and now it's like worse lol.
gfx card works in other vr programs, so I'd doubt it's a defective card
Currently troubleshooting in desktop mode
who has a vive pro?
I'm sure it's been asked a million times but anyone know what the current tris limit is on avatars?
why is vrc so broke rn
there is no poly limit, but try to stay under 70k
oh ok nice thank you, I'm at like 33k
perfect
Anyone know how to get that client for vrchat that let's u access other people's coliders
vrchat is virus my conputer
Conputer?
Vrchat is on steam yes
Wdym
WHAT???
Np
Well I'm not Brazilian
ok
It's because I live in Brazil
Gotcha
you accepted the request
What request?
Well, I don't know ya so Idk, and I haven't done anything to it so
Sorry
I will show you that I am for real
WDYM?
Well have u watched season 4 of SAO
yes
How old are u? 13?
Just watching the mess unfold lol
lol same UwU
I'm 16
UWU thats cool cutie

lmao
WHAT
nothing UwU
many people arrived
Yea
I'm pretty good but sleepy, wbu?
damn dont go to sleep i need u
Why do u need me
UWU why not
š
started the anime:)

š
Nice š
thank you
yeah 0u0
you are loli??
Lul what Anime
nah im 16 0u0
yeah š
xDxD
Lol ~u~
you have 16????????
He is 16, forehead
yeah UwU
f....?
Welcome to the purge master race
rank goes up forever, if you are purple, you could have sky high rank into purple so you would have to fall for miles to become orange again
Hey u guys i love the way u hate me.
I d have a story to tell but a rootkit got my pc. Can any1 tellme why youtube.dl popped up on a root scan and when i tried to remove it DESTROYED my OS?
Im glad you responded, i really precite that
Not a problem maybe smy ssd wen5 to hell. All i know quarrel reall, really , suks.. No backspace
Did you download youtube-dl yourself at some point? If so, where from?
Dude quarrel suks... Igot it from Kareoke central. I have nrton and did a deap scan and it popped up. Idk maybe norton didnt recognize it?
But idk mayb its 3rd party anti virus bs. Iheard they can f up ur pc . But thing is no pc repair tools work i cant fix it
windows defender is pretty much all u need in 2019
Ya i heard that. But norton had the "deep scan" and vpn. And wen i saw vpn i was all like. HellYa
i mean i guess if u really want a vpn
Well ya vpn man that where its at right? So ppl cant get my ip. Anyways quarrel must be a failed project. And hey dont jump to conclusions on KC. I like that room
rip ik
i wonder what causes the cloned instance
is void club's music not playing for any yall?
me and some other dude in that world couldnt hear it
theres a fairy forest world with fairy puppet avatars. like theyre avatars that only use your right hand so its like theyre flying
ok
how do you do custom animations on hand gestures?
for some reason it only animates the hand for me and doesn't do the full body animation I have for it
why are there so many pc maps that quest userrs cant use š¦
Because making content for the Quest is a more time consuming than just making it for the PC version
and most content creators are PC users, so there's not much incentive for them to make Quest versions of their map
i have a vive so i can access everything :^)
honestly i wanna get a quest but the fact that it supports so few games is a turn off
to add to what mic said, quest is really limited so a lot of pc maps won't run on quest anyways
and pc has had years of content
quest only a few months
Only pick the quest for 2 reasons : You move from place to place alot and you absolutely cannot afford the hardware needed for PCVR. "But I like it because no wires" is a very poor excuse imho.
If it was not a locked store id be a way neater headset as streaming to PC could be done natively then
I intend to get the vive cosmos once it's released
We know legit nothing about it beside that it has a 'better screen' then other vive headsets
Well it will still be an improvement, plus there are some videos regarding it.
I just want a headset that is no wires, but still full body tracking.
Its not 100% confirmed its wireless and works with the camera's so...
Ever looked at how "well" wireless works with the current Vive?
We talking about HTC, knowing them they will go also room tracking instead of there camera system
You can make any headset wireless with tools lol
Invest in a really good CPU if you want to stream and game on your PC.
I got intel i7 7700k & gtx 1070
Might work
If not, can always upgrade.
Hi!
Ello
Mr fuzz, there's a firmware update for me rift s o.o
rip
Why rip?
Oh Qhala it's a good update
If you enabled the beta participation thing - it's an excellent update
@snow wadi forgot to tag you.
D:
No it's without the PTC
Just standard and it told me there was a firmware update.
Maybe it went live?
Oh; no that's the pre-fix update which just adds some features like automatic floor height detection.
The PTC version has the static flash fix <-- and if you worry because its a beta version - I'm using it and its the best thing that's happened to me.
Ok let me enable it then
enables
multiple explosions can be heard in the background
:<
You'll be fine and probably a lot happier too
It made me feel loved for the 293875987239857298375987253th time in my life
wat o.o
I don't know; I should lay off the english breakfast tea
2 questions
is there a list that tells you which component gives you what stat for the avatar performance and
are there any semi realistic shaders for skin that isnt a toon shader?
I didn't think shaders were a good texture replacement
i just dont like the look of toon shaders
You could use a standard skin texture and double map pores onto it; add some speculars and ye good
currently using a shader that a friend made, im very happy with it, if there wouldnt be an issue with it that sometimes people see me in only dots
And tesselate the avatar out of a 2D model for maximum sass
since when did worlds go back into community labs
i updated the image and it got put back to labs and 2 heat from 5
fair enough, does it fix itself orr?
I've heard people complain about it, I don't think I've heard an, oh nvm it's fine now
damn, fair enough
Hopefully it does go back to normal, if so do tell
Question, I have a model I just rigged in Blender, do I need to do anything else to it or can I upload it as my avatar?
Wait nevermind I found the appropriate channel to ask.
My bad.
Guess who's Index is out for delivery š
congratulations
I had a dream few days ago that I ordered index
it was a scary dream rather than a happy dream
I ain't ready to throw 1k £ on it
It's only like £680 if you already have a Vive so it's not a big an issue for me
good for you
Bought the full kit myself
Well I was pointing out that it's not such a big investment for people that currently own the Vive or Vive Pro,
I upgraded from a full vive setup to a full index setup. Just gave away my lighthouses to someone who wanted FBT. Just gotta meet my family member that picked it up in Sweden now and then I'll have it \o/
maybe instead of asking for help ask the question so people wont have to invest time into asking what your problem is C:
Yo, when are they planning on banning the "hackers" we've reported for a week straight now? I can't believe some of these people have still yet to be punished, they go to worlds and spam portals everywhere, they reveal people's IRL location, they try to ddos people.
There was a sudden spike in the amount of hackers that run around now and none of them seem to be dealt with.
LMAO
<@&397642795457970181> ^
Pretty much the worse curse word in dutch just to get that clear
lol
Yeah
Check the loggs and š time
Oh
lol
Also neat, got them reports for discord itself in
Lmao
Best send it. I can't do it from mobile
@jovial pulsar If you report them the right way with enough proof they will get banned. But i cant judge if you did that so š¤·
I did definitely do so Oclac, and so did several others
I had OBS recording everything
Ah okay
And you emailed it? Got the second reply email back?
Not sure he thought it was clever, he's probably just dutch so swore in dutch.
There's people in the void club hacking right now, there's always one particular blue user in Murder revealing people's IRL info and I bet there's more spergs out there doing the same.
Idk, it was quiet for a while but now I see this shit happening every single day
How do they get that kind of information?
No clue, but they can see your IP
VRC uses steam to handle some of the networking
And as steam dropped the ball they reveal the IP
It's long been fixed, but VRC hasn't been updated
But the most up to date version of it does not, they just need to rewrite some stuff (easier said then done as always). But with the upcomming audio changes who knows if its still a problem as they might have just fully dropped it.
One guy revealed my own location as well as other people's locations yesterday, even did so while I recorded it which I sent in to the moderation team, so at least there's that, but they've never had this much power before
What changes are they making to the audio?
Crashing people is one thing, but when you start having issues with people revealing IRL info, then that has gone too far in my opinion.
Also, they cant give your location. They give the location your ISP links to your IP.
So if its too close to your liking yell at them as all companies, all websites and all server hosts get the same info.
theyve had thatt "power" for ages tho
Its the same how my IP location is 'only' ~50Km from my real location because i asked to...
Idk, must've been lucky then because I've never encountered anything like it before. And it's the same user that has been running rampart through VRC for a week now.
A lot of people here probably knows who the blue user I'm talking about is
The IP lookup on my old IP narrowed it down to the village I was in.
Yeah, he did the same thing with me yesterday, even tried to ddos me but it only kicked me off discord for 5 seconds and then he managed to disconnect himself instead, LUL
uhoh the bad man knows my city of thousands of people lol
IP bans vs hackers are kinda moot at this point; with VPN's being such a standard thing these days
Not the point. Don't downplay this.
There's hardware bans
And VPNs are not standard.
My place is secluded as fuck
Hardware bans are just like IP bans not hard to avoid at all
Legit takes 2 google searches to do both
Consider this: If someone has a botnet to ddos you; they will most likely be under a VPN
And the fact that people can see our IP is just beyond stupid, no other game gives the players that power unless they own the server itself.
š a fair bit of games do and have done so
youre wrongthere lol
I have never encountered anything like this and it's getting out of hand real fast
its an annoyance atbest
I heard it was a problem linked to steam?
@tawny ore It's an issue with the old Steam voice API. It's been fixed by Valve since but VRC needs to update their implementation.
"i never experienced it so itnever happened :)"
I have never experienced it so I can confirm it definitely never happened /s 
Australia doesn't exist
Try to downplay it all you want, but the issue is huge in this game right now this very moment. It was never this bad before.
To me australia is still in the schrodingers equation... and it will remain so until the day I overcome my fear of spiders
youre continuously wrong
You know, I've been against people camping out in private worlds because it killed the whole VRC community to begin with, but I'm starting to see why publics are a bad idea.
It's probably always happened, just the first time you've had it like this
Yumakaze you're actually the 1%-5% that have experienced it. And the affected ones are always the loudest and seek echo chambers to prolong that.
Laughs in world shaders before panic mode
why? because theyll tell your city? get a grip
raughs in kanji
Lmao
is it an issue? yes
A bit weird that after 3600 hours into the game, a majority being spent in publics, that it suddenly starts becoming an issue now, aye?
As I said, the ddosing is the main issue
The influx of children and assholes on desktop due to popularity of "funny videos" is likely playing a big part.
DDoS is an issue a lot of the time, yes. You technically have to power to give yourself some defenses against it (forementioned VPNs, even public ones)
Legit discord, ALL websites, ALL games, ALL programs with internet functions know your IP and have it logged.
The DDOSing is the only problem here, knowing where someone might or might not live isnt.
Hell, i can guess most people around me by accents lmao. Often to there closest biggest city.
but its an annoyance at best as most users arent ddosed, theyre just the loudest, understandably
You're downplaying it by just calling it an annoyance, while we've got pretty good protection against it, it's still beyond stupid that players have that power.
I don't care that people know which country I'm from, they hear that from my accent anyway, but kicking people off the internet and effectively shutting it down for a while is a big issue.
So defend yourself.
and not as common as you make it seem
Pretty common in VRC
Never had it before
At least as of recent times
Whats pretty common? Never had it before or to my friends that didnt push there odds lmao
I notice that a lot of points I'm making are being ignored. As you were. 

You shouldn't need to "defend" your internet connection in a game. This isn't medieval warfare.
This is true
I agree with you Enverex; but if something struck me, I'd look to avoid that in the future
We shouldn't need to but we might just have to just in cas
This is why I choose to ignore the comments this clown makes, lmao. I shouldn't need to use a VPN to play a game that I enjoy because of some pathetic spergs who've got nothing else going for them in their life.
It's like getting hit by a car while crossing the road without checking... then recovering and proceeding to repeat that mistake
Also, let me ask. what does you insulting people RN change?
Lmao
you shouldnt needto, but its the only existing solution
"insulting prople RN change" <-- I don't actually know what that means oclac XD
RN means right now.
Im asking why they are insulting people š¤·
Venting helps frustration. For example when people tell you that being DDoSed and (weakly) doxed in a game is fine.
Ow wait, lemme insult some people who dont think the same as me and claim its venting.
I must've been doing some selective reading... I did not see insults or anyone saying that ddos is fine o.0
Yes, im pointing out who silly things are with sarcasm again
I mean it literally is venting, it's expected that people should be annoyed over this.
I should go get some glasses.
Your lack of empathy to peoples concern is what makes you the target of those frustrations.
who said it was fine?
Enverex there's a lot of us, pls let us know who you refer to
Your downplaying of the issues gives that impression, even if it's not what you outright say.
why do you continuously put words in peoples mouth when you disagree
Mic I put only one word in your mouth: "Sharknado 2.0, The Sharkination"
oh that's three words...
What has changed from the old days of VRC to now that suddenly gave them the power to see our IP? This is not something I've ever heard of back in the day, this is just something I've encountered recently.
Well, we dont see it as that insane of a problem. I could list things in the history of VRC that have been way worse imo.
Also i personally explained how some things worked instead of having people guess it in chat and educated. Im getting shit for that also.
@jovial pulsar Nothing. It has always been a thing.
@jovial pulsar Steam implementation; then slow adaptation rate to the changes steam made.
I know there has always been a battle between the devs and the hackers to break these tools, this is something they made very clear in many streams as well.
It was the reason why streamers stopped streaming the game back when it was at it's peak, because hackers were 10 steps ahead at the time.
You're just going off on one... You remind me of this one guy who used to monologue a lot. I don't mean this as an insult; just a personal opinion of mine.
yuuup
@jovial pulsar Listen. We somewhat understand your frustrations. It is ridiculous and it should not be a thing that happens.
While we can rant and rave about this for days on end - that will not accelerate the issue being resolved or all hackers being squashed into toothpaste tubes.
You can only do what you can - which is to defend yourself or avoid VRC for time being. That is all. Like it or not.
Yeah, I suppose I'll just become one of the private world dwellers at this point, lmao. Seems like the only way you can enjoy the game at this point
Educating people properly on how to defend them selves for now, stomping out the fake news that they know your exact location for example and instead of ranting/raging upvoting the right posts and giving detailed experiences of new exploits is the way to go.
Also not seeking out problems is the way to go.
It's too bad people have nothing better to do tbh, yesterday I watched a dude literally spend 40 minutes in a Murder world teleporting knives around to kill people and nobody in the lobby even paid the dude any attention, seems like a waste of time to try to trigger people and not even get a reaction out of it, lmao
what a joke jfc. my time is spent in pubs and friend+ with the odd private room event. i havent, nor have an overwhelming majority of friends, experienced this. you can enjoy the game fine youre being dramatic...
^ I concur.
Exactly the same for me
i know of four, all streamers which is why they were targeted
I rarely go in private worlds unless I'm going to do something alone on my own
Oogabooga
Bleeding, keep talking... what is this "on my own" stuff
Im omw to school
Its morning
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

No spamming!
Yes no spamming ye nerds.
privates are for parties and other closed events for me
oh wait ment to DM someone something about smash bros
thats about it
lol my bad wrong chat
Yeah same
Actually I've had more negative experiences in private worlds than public ones. That's pretty backwards
while I'm here I do wanna ask tho...I put a custom emote on a hand gesture but it only animates the hand
how do I make it do a full body animation?
You press buttons and it will do animations for you... the buttons must be shift+ f1-f8
I know I did that and it only does the hand animations for the emote
It's only been recent days that it has been issues though, but I spend a lot of time in the Murder map recently which attracts little spergs
Damn I made orange rank š
I hope this new system they're working on will bring more maps like it so people can spread out a bit.
I got the sound to work but the hand gesture makes my hand spaz out cuz its doing the animation ONLY for the hand and nothing else
idk why
If it's been a thing for over a year and you're barely just now experiencing it, maybe it's not that common š¤
nvm I figured it out
I was doing it like emotes but I found a video and you have to use the IDLE override
Wait might be me but did you get targeted then by the ddos and location dropping?
most people I approached about it don't use default Trust settings anyway @vestal sleet
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imagine using safety system
lol for me it's more about not wanting to see annoying animations than it is not being crashed
it would be very bad
I haven't had anyone noticeably try to crash me personally in ages
same
I like animations
Yeah, I don't mind crashing either because the game is so fast to launch, I just always found particle animations and the meme fests uninteresting, so I got that turned off even for friends.
who cares
@rigid crescent ya I know but I am mostly refering to new white/blue/green user who have default
Oh yeah fresh users probably still do
I love teasing fresh user because they never see it coming
That like what I do on weekdays cuz weekday have nothing going on :<
I've not been using it at all for a while until just recently disabled just sound effects
how cool is the fact that it's the only parameter that doesnt work properly and I still get earraped from time to time

Let's be honest, the people's mics in this game earrape more than animations do š¤
not true
Nah
Not really, no
Those global super loud noise like " wow I have joined the lobby" zzz
Worst mics I hear are just open ones with fans turned on and when someone is memeing and inhales their mic
any news on when split spawn issue will be fixed? i try joining s friends+ and 9/10 i'm being send to a new instance
Worst mics I hear are the ones that sounds like they're at airports or people with scuffed mics that they proceed to shout into
Well I play music through mic but I try not to be too loud about it
Yeah, I sometimes do that with Foobar as well
I feel like we talk about bad things in vrc 98% of the time, why dont we take a moment to talk about something we do like and enjoy in vrc
true
If we put aside the spergs, then I'd say it definitely is something unique I've never seen in any other game before.
Last year I stopped playing normal games and just focused on VRC, have not had that much fun since Classic WoW tbh
truth
Though it'll be nice with a break from VRC when...new classic wow launches, LUL
Something we enjoy...
Favourite world on VRC?
I still haven't played league properly after I abandoned it for vrc
I think vrchat is a true friendship game
black cat is goode
I mostly just hang out, talk, and watch movies
My favorite world is the old Gaia Night by far.
But current map that is relevant would be Island of Dreams or whatever it was called, the one Lexz made
š no one see that
Nobody saw that tenten... I don't even know what a lapdance is anyway
gaia night is a unusual choice
The old one!
a lot of people have come to dislike it after the expansion
It is just a happy little dance
I quite enjoy the atmosphre on the ground level of the spire climbing map
I already forgot that Gaia night existed
o wait, I didnt see "old"
Just the sea, the docks and you.
Oooh... someone should make a platform world - where we're in the middle of the sea and we can fish.
aw ye, wholesome dancing
Old gaia night is still public so I'm pretty happy about that
but does it get traffic?
It would be like the olden days in runescape, chatting poo while catching fish..
The lunar world is pretty and get traffic
F for gaia night
I do also love the original Japan Shrine but Rootgentle took it down and I don't think it'll be ever brought back up at this point.
The new one that someone else made just doesn't get close to the old one.
Someone should re-create the "hub city" or area of the most popular online games
People could flock to places they know
hmm
Maple story
WoW erp inn here we go
Goldshire, Pog
yaes
aight let's think big
I havent played enough mmo rpgs to know any good places to port
Sao town
we already have sao map, next
Varrock/Lumbridge from Runescape
Dalaran from WoW
Astera from monster hunter world
The main city from Destiny
I didn't play many rpgs, but I played one for years, but it's so old and unpopular i dont think it's worth porting
ooo, mhw yes
Splatoon city
but mhw is so detailed its gonna be a pain to por- recreate, yes
Super Mario land
Guild Wars 2 - Lions Arch
Whatever the main city was called in Rift
Any major space station from Elite Dangerous
Heck, could even have a corner of one of those places; just a memorable part of it.
Pretty sure lots of those hubs exist
I might do some exploring when I get home lol
Could cordon off an area which was most populated in-game and just have the rest of the city for a view
People mostly gather at the 4 main portals, the house of pleasures and the open market just near the portals. And one other open area where there are several portals that lead to 6an and 12 man dungeons and raids.
That chunk alone can be done while keeping the performance in check.
The gun slinger school, Emperor's steps, black market, Zaiwei blossom garden etc are too much to add with vrc limitations unless you sacrafice alot of details.
I wanted a world that is just the vrc loading screen
With notifications going by and the music
Accurate enough that you arenāt 100% sure if you are in or not yet
i was in a world where the spawn area was the VRC loading void
with a portal into the actual worldup ahead
no mirrorshader effect tho, felt like a smol sphere cuz the actual world was more like a spaceship
@desert stratus ooo interesting find
vrchat works for me again yus
š
F
^^^
Like the sound stuff is cool but that bug fix is insane imo
Proabably one of the most common and annoying bugs in the game rn
Yeah if I had a list of most annoying bugs thatās def like #3
What does every comfy hangout world need? I'm working on a world and I'm running out of ideas. So far it's got tons of comfy pillows, a bed, some chairs, gently floating particles, light levels and ambient music.
portable mirrors 
i have a quick question, on vrchat i have the new user rank and it says i can upload worlds but when i go to the vrchat website the option is blocked
I love dcing randomly for no reason every time I try to load in to a room xD
@torpid dome Are you trying to publish a world?
Yeah, I think you need to be a higher rank.
oh really?