.-. The server runs the map
#vrchat-general-2
shell trench
shell trench
Oof
alpine flame
but it kinda depends on how many people are in the room though
shell trench
I at least go 50-100
alpine flame
like in the mic, there can be more than 30 and i'm just not able to join
covert linden
100?
alpine flame
god you're lucky
vocal shard
Cap is at 90 so that’s 
covert linden
Too bad 100 in vrchat isnt possible
shell trench
I mean in general
covert linden
Wym in general? Were discussing vrchat.
covert linden
I get 70-90fps in desktop, 20-40 in vr
boreal kelp
Are these loading issues and such only occuring in VR or have there been issues for desktop too
covert linden
Loading issues as in loading the game?
shell trench
*like
covert linden
Games heavier on the network now
heavy dawn
VRChat is the only app that runs as poorly as VRChat on my system. I can get 5-11fps in the pug if there's awfully optimized models in there.
shell trench
100 —> 50
heavy dawn
Every other app is very, very, extremely smooth.
shell trench
80 —> 40
covert linden
You cant get 100fps in vrchaat
shell trench
I said it cuts in half!
covert linden
Half of 90 is 45
shell trench
Omg
heavy dawn
Those also happen to be the 2 modes the Vive will run in.
alpine flame
for me, only vrchat lags so badly tbh
heavy dawn
Which is jarring A F. 🤣
alpine flame
any other games are fine
covert linden
Vrchat is cpu heavy
heavy dawn
That's the word for it, yes.
boreal kelp
My graphics card is a 2GB and someone pointed out that my VRAM is why I get lag from HQ shaders or when there's 20+ people in a room
shell trench
Sounds bout right
covert linden
Im getting a 1660ti and a 2600
shell trench
I hate it when people use the animations that use a lot of FPS
Making your game lag like crazy
alpine flame
that's why i have safety on
covert linden
Too many dynamic bones, fur shaders, and.dozens of meshes is whar bothers me
boreal kelp
Are people still encouraged to follow the 19,000 tris/polygon standard even though VRChat increased the limit
covert linden
Fur shaders aree 100% the worst
shell trench
Yeah
covert linden
No cuz 32k is the reccomended now :P
near sky
Single mesh; 1 material -my fetish
covert linden
Well then Mute, Youll love my avatar
heavy dawn
My main model has a basic fur shader. Performance is great but 🤷
covert linden
Im saying its reccomened, Most people have 60k-90k polys.
heavy dawn
That one paid fur shader might be different.
shell trench
*recommended
boreal kelp
Unity VRChat SDK still gives warning if you're above 19,999
shell trench
But ya
shell trench
.-. I ish no kiddo
heavy dawn
🙃 You're all kiddos
languid beacon
As of the network update the game is less CPU intensive and more bandwidth intensive. Because of that; VRChat now runs much better; or worse, depending on your CPU/internet connection. Most people will see much smoother framerate, especially lower end machines. However those with less than fast internet will see VRChat performing horribly now.
alpine flame
oh, haha
heavy dawn
Adeon: I have noticed it running better the few times I've been in after the mobile update.
TBH I'm fully on board with making everything Quest compatible.
heavy dawn
Better performance is better for me than allowing people to just spend tons of CPU/GPU on nothing.
heavy dawn
Using a shader just for a single colour on a model, etc.
covert linden
You can be 10 anf working onn the streets. Its called a lemonaid stand
covert linden
Vrchat works the same for me, maybe slightly better in rooms with many people
languid beacon
I’m honestly not. My better fps does not feel real when my tracking updates are a slide show. The FPS is fake.
heavy dawn
I mean tracking is client side so I'd look into that I guess.
covert linden
My friends fur shader yeeted my frames tho
alpine flame
my fps suck to the point that i have to delete the vrchat folder every day
heavy dawn
I think my tracking issues were mostly inconsistent CPU speed? When I dealt with heat issues my tracking was far better.
@covert linden Which fur shader? I don't think I've seen this model.
covert linden
Thats cache not fps related. Having a full cache (means you dont have much storage) means itll be harder to load stuff
shell trench
Well I’m home
heavy dawn
Unless you mean my raccoon haha
shell trench
Gonna hop on some VR
languid beacon
Yes it’s clientside. My slow internet connection is considered part of my clientside business to other players
covert linden
It was one for a scarf, but every fur shader ive seen does it.
alpine flame
yeah, i know, but the game gets a little bit better when i delete it. i'm just desperate
covert linden
Ill have to see yours and see if I lose fps sometime
heavy dawn
Hmm... I'll have to try logging into VRC on a slower machine.
All I have is that i5 2 Ghz laptop. I can use that but I think it runs fine.
shell trench
@alpine flame just reinstall it lol
covert linden
Donr jusr reinstall it. Uninstalling and reinstalling is too tedius.
shell trench
XD it works
alpine flame
i tried once, it didn't do anything
covert linden
Safety settings is your best bet. You can also lower the res in steam settings
alpine flame
just wasted my time
covert linden
And no it doesnt work, it wastes time and wonr make your system run better, I dont see a point or value in doing that
covert linden
Many things are a waste of time
shell trench
We just got it
north rock
Truth
covert linden
My gpu is a 1050 but its running past a intel 630. It suffers greatly
heavy dawn
Adeon / Rea: I play with an RTX 2070 so I guess I wouldn't notice unless I tried playing on my laptop.
languid beacon
Yes even I xi’s shader kills my 970 gtx
shell trench
You know what sucks though. When le peeps be streaming as well
languid beacon
Which is minimum spec
heavy dawn
Xi's shader is the one that Wuffle kept trying to get me to use.
The freebie I found seemed good enough. I guess I could code my own.
languid beacon
Single pass but still computationally heavy
covert linden
Im getting a 1660ti and a 2600 so I hope I run the game berter :P and 16gb ram
shell trench
Wait does the Streamers affect other players play??? 🧐🧐🧐
covert linden
No?
languid beacon
Not really tho they can be kind of attention seeking
languid beacon
Ech
heavy dawn
It's that IRL lag I'm worried about 🤣
covert linden
I dont get much vr lag for someone running past a 630
shell trench
😂😂😂yass
heavy dawn
"past a 630" ?
alpine flame
i have a small question though, how do i type in the support channel? do i just email them or?
languid beacon
I don’t see lag but as if the network IK everyone says I teleport and slide around and arms move like a slide show
shell trench
Ye
heavy dawn
Ah! I see!
covert linden
@alpine flame #vrchat-support isnt a chat channel.. its a fix test you do and if it doesnr work you email
Im also on a 1050 so its not a good time. But I dont notice the low fps
shell trench
I’m using an HP laptop with a 6th gen intel core
alpine flame
so i'm just stupid
heavy dawn
Is it a built-in 1050 in your laptop?
covert linden
Yes
heavy dawn
Then it isn't "running past" your Intel integrated video. The intel card rasterizes it but it won't be a reason for it to slow down.
covert linden
Really? Oculus wont work beczuzs the hdmi isnt detected. I was told thats how optimus works
heavy dawn
Your Intel card is going to be able to render out those frames as fast as the video card spits them out. It's only rasterizing, not doing any calculation.
covert linden
I feel bad for your cpu
shell trench
But that’s true
heavy dawn
I'm not sure about the particulars of how Oculus detects which HDMI it's on.
covert linden
Ive got 1tb + an ssd, 1050, and intel i7 8khd, (not sure the exact number, its better than the 7700k)
heavy dawn
My Vive is connected to the USB C HDMI out on my 2070
shell trench
-3- Yeah well it works
heavy dawn
At least it was, I might have swapped it to use the HDMI and give one of my monitors the USB C)
covert linden
Im hype to use my pc woth the 1660ti I love it so much
shell trench
*with
shell trench
😅I’m a writer so it bothers me a little
covert linden
There isnt a single person here incapable of reading my messages with a typo so its pointless.
Im a writer too.
shell trench
I use me precious typewriter 😝
alpine flame
typos don't really matter as long as you can read the messages
shell trench
True
covert linden
Part of what I do is write to get my ideas out, as a concept writer its not my job to be precise.
covert linden
Anyway im building my new pc in a month and im.super hype about it
Well my boyfriends gonna help and teach me when hes here
shell trench
Nice
alpine flame
okay guys i'm going to sleep now, i'll try to work on the issue tomorrow and if it doesn't fix then i don't know
gn
shell trench
Goodnight
heavy dawn
🛌 g'night ochrepanties
shell trench
R.I.P.
heavy dawn
I just looked up ochre because I thought it was a material as well as a colour, but I guess it's just a dye made of sand and clay?
Sandypanties? Sounds uncomfortable.
near sky
Doing that right now socially at work; trying to settle in, just that internal voice makes everything infinitely more difficult, taxing, uncomfortable -so applies there as well
near sky
The hub; or the home? 👀
near sky
They did! - Namely for the quest as far as I'd think
near sky
They did; quest-friendly ones largely ^^
languid beacon
I used to be a super introvert until I moved across country. In my mind I am just on this vacation that seems to be lasting forever and nothing anybody thinks of me here actually matters because I won’t be here forever. It’s a weird mental quirk that makes no sense but hey it works and I don’t care what anyone thinks /shrug
near sky
@languid beacon Approach is interesting -could see how it's effective
shell trench
I don’t remember seeing these one at all
near sky
@languid beacon Social anxiety defines way too much of how I interract, scenarios I avoid. Coming to realize that more and more as I got this job. Even just the bus ride home feels like a wave of eyes on me -as if a physical force in the room, pulling my attention to every little thing i'm doing. Something to gradually overcome. - If i get the opportunity to travel there might be something to be found there; open to it at least.
languid beacon
Yeah I’m not sure how much of me is social anxiety or just introversion. The two absolutely aren’t the same tho any time someone describes the feeling of social anxiety I know I have felt exactly what they describe but I don’t feel I have anxiety
I think it’s just shyness
shell trench
@near sky I have a lot of anxiety ;-;
high wasp
My social anxiety annoys me
shell trench
But I fight it off
high wasp
Easier to get hurt, still moving on
languid beacon
If you see a crowd in vr and can’t bring yourself to walk up to them and feel paralyzed that is just straight up shyness
high wasp
What if you struggle to talk to people in fear of making a mistake
covert linden
Im the type to walk right up to them and say HIHI
languid beacon
If you can’t look people in the eye irl that’s social anxiety
gleaming tulip
Anyone know why VRChat will not save home world to cache, have to redownload every time I log in for the last few days. Is it a bug, do I need to clear cache, or is there a setting that changed/I missed?
high wasp
Yeah basically
covert linden
I canr look people in the eye irl but thats due to my adhd
shell trench
My speaker scared the crap out of me
high wasp
I go on VR Chat just because it is easier to talk to people
shell trench
It randomly turned on blasting music by itself XD
high wasp
but if someone goes on calling me a pussy cause I struggle to talk to people is toxic, I deal with it every day when it isn't their concern
shell trench
@covert linden just stare at their forehead 😂😂😂
covert linden
I cant stare in one place 9 times outta 10
languid beacon
“Pick an eye. Don’t look at my nose, you look cross eyed”
heavy dawn
I make a point of making eye contact as a friend pointed it out to me as a kid.
high wasp
It helps for me to just look in the center of their eyes
covert linden
If theyre looking at me, I look to the side, at my hands, etc but I cant even look at them
high wasp
I look down but then I space out
shell trench
Oof
heavy dawn
looks at Rea's pinky finger
covert linden
Makes me severly uncomfortable, I can maintain eye contact for a good 2 seconds
high wasp
So either I have to listen to them hard but looking at people in the eye makes my hands sweat n everything
heavy dawn
I just faked it until I actually became pretty good at being personable.
languid beacon
Yeah if you can’t look at eyes try to aim higher than eyes, it’s harder to even tell you arent making eye contact
Looking lower is easier to see
languid beacon
Oof
covert linden
I dont think so, pretty sure thatd an adhd symptom but im not sure o no yeet
languid beacon
Well better to be you than fake it. Otherwise you just like you will burn a hole in people with heat vision
heavy dawn
Rea just tossed something out the window. We don't know what.
near sky
The one thing I practiced, got sorted out was eye contact -confidence in self beyond that is lacking though
lethal meteor
Cant look at people in vr?
languid beacon
Well vrc does not have eye tracking
shell trench
Oof
languid beacon
Not true eye tracking anyway
Avatars automatically have their eyes look at whoever is most in front of them
near sky
I know walking up to new groups in VRChat is really taxing; constant self-critique from the eyes of everyone else around. - An addition of eye tracking would be interesting. Curious how many it would impact socially.
covert linden
I can look at people in vr but my eyes still dart around
heavy dawn
I mean, it's dumb and it sounds like platitudes, but smiling when I'm out in public makes other people smile, and I can convince myself that everything is fine... because generally it is anyway.
(smile with your eyes! Not with bared teeth and scared eyes 🤣 )
languid beacon
😬
near sky
😬😬
heavy dawn
whoa! 2 happy!
near sky
Can see you point though; may as well give some try -can't see it hurting, and I'm typically in a more focussed look of.. thought?
heavy dawn
Yeah, I want to help everyone have a better time. That's not something that came naturally. I had to take an interest in it.
languid beacon
Yeah “smile more” is such a taboo thing to say ;
(Especially to women) but it honestly 100% does work its this mental hack where if you are smiling your brain tells you that you ARE happy and then you feel happy and than you really truely are happy. It’s a feedback loop. Brains are easily duped
heavy dawn
100% not okay to demand other people smile 😃
near sky
"Smile"
heavy dawn
But yeah, if you want a life hack to get rid of social anxiety, that's one of mine.
near sky
"Smile or die."
languid beacon
More of a “helpful suggestion to try on your own time not necessarily around me it really does work I swear”
heavy dawn
It doesn't work if there's an unaddressed issue causing the anxiety. Gotta at least acknowledge that there are things out there that people fear. But if it's a case of your brain thinking everyone's out there to get you... hax work.
near sky
Can't hurt; I feel like this is a very multi-dimensional problem, spills into self-worth, how I'm sometimes percieved, and then into a loop from there -so I appreciate any perspectives I may not have considered ^^
The fact there's any semblence even within VRChat shows it scales with who I am -not happy to let it define me in any amount, you know?
boreal kelp
The only thing that causes me anxiety in VRChat is knowing there are people on the other side of the avatar. Speaking with my voice has a different feel compared to just typing text. Usually I stay silent unless I notice something peculiar (there was a King Gidorah avatar that spawned out of nowhere in a world I was visiting yesterday) or someone says my username on there
languid beacon
I’ve been using voice based comms in games like vrchat for over a decade so I got used to it. Unfortunately while I’m super comfortable in vrchat I have the opposite problem with text
They are just separate things your brain has to get comfortable with. One does not help the other
As with anything, getting out of your comfort zone and getting experience in WILL help and eventually you WILL be comfortable.
near sky
Committing to the discomfort, pushing through; breaking routines defined by discomfort
Sounds uncomfortable 
but worthwhile
languid beacon
The hardest part is starting
near sky
Difficulty also comes in that everything in the moment pulls you to the opposite
but I broke the eye contact anxiety
languid beacon
Not every crowd is good or worthwhile either, so if you have a bad experience don’t let it rule you
boreal kelp
Eye contact anxiety in VRChat is not even a problem for me in desktop. In fact, I'm more likely to be accused of staring lol
north rock
No one ever seems to mention this, but you have to be ready to suffer casualties through your blunders and shortcomings. You'll have to take losses that you otherwise wouldn't necessarily have incurred if you instead didn't try at all.
For me, that is always the worst part. Doors to opportunities closing because you were not good enough in that instant.
But to put it in a needlessly macabre way, it is from atop the corpses of your failed interactions that you can refine your ability to successfully create new ones.
Alternatively, kill them proactively!
near sky
OCD's tendency intrusive thoughts might be a factor; the repetition of any and every mistake I'll crique for, days on end -should be trying for medication on top of that. Might help me for how I hold on to those blunders?
And I agree; in both the solution, and the problem ^^
Doors to opportunities closing because you were not good enough in that instant.
plush cove
Would it be possible to live in vrchat?
near sky
VRChat's been a pleasant bit of practice before stepping out a little more
plush cove
Like having water and food irl and doing other stif in vrchat
near sky
@plush cove Practically? Yes. - Actually? If you don't mean transference in or anything sci-fi, then I'd think so; especially with the Quest out
languid beacon
You can eat and poo but eventually you need to work and shop :p
plush cove
I mean there was a guy that has been in vr a week
boreal kelp
Games like 'never have I ever', I don't experience much anxiety since its easy to talk there
plush cove
@near sky i mean by wired headsets (vive,oculus ecc.)
languid beacon
“Never have I ever” also known as “3 questions and then chill”
plush cove
I have been comfy with the google cardboard
north rock
A jumping-off point makes all the difference in actually interacting with people, but the problem there is that they don't exist in 95% of scenarios
plush cove
Alright
languid beacon
I can’t wait until headsets have eye tracking built in and everyone turns it off
I love the idea though, the eyes say alot, and it does get lost in vr
heavy dawn
Learning how to talk to people you don't know? Also difficult at first but it gets easier. Showing a genuine interest in the other person helps. Ask questions to get them to reveal things about themselves.
near sky
and everyone turns it off Accurate.
Focussing in on the other person > yourself, where possible
heavy dawn
I would love eye tracking so much. Being able to see myself in my models is a really rewarding experince. Something that makes the immersion that much better would be nice.
near sky
I wonder what the eye-tracking immersion difference would be.. just trying to imagine it now, watching your eyes move in the virtual mirror with yourself.. it feels like it could be incredible.
heavy dawn
has to bike home. 👋
languid beacon
Makes me realize I’ve never gotten to see your models in vrc
heavy dawn
💜 omg the idea of seeing my facial expressions or eye tracking showing would be cool
near sky
🚲 == Good luck on the ride!
heavy dawn
Thanks!
tame sleet
Are there no sensors needed for \oculus rift S?
languid beacon
Yes oculus has ditched sensors in all current headsets
near sky
Yes
languid beacon
Yes rift S and quest do not use sensors
near sky
Is a cost-benefit analysis; can see why it was done entirely
languid beacon
Well I mean more accurately the sensors are built into the headset
bronze cape
Uses inside out tracking, same as Windows MR
near sky
SteamVR+Oculus combo, Kinnect, or other solutions still exist for full body afaik -or will with relative ease in development. WMR sees something similar.
languid beacon
It’s a tad more advanced than WMR’s technology. Same goal, different tech
bronze cape
Except there's way more cameras than MR so controller tracking isn't garbage.
languid beacon
Rift S + vive trackers should work better than Rift constellation + vive trackers tbh
But since I have trackers and stations already I’m upgrading to Index
bronze cape
Nice, I hear really good things about it
velvet iris
any ETA for the index?
languid beacon
My eta is August 31st. Everyone’s place in line is different
bronze cape
Valve
eta
Hahahahaha
languid beacon
@bronze cape everyone who reserved a spot in line got a date, until it got after sept then new people in line aren’t getting a garunteed date. Long line.
languid beacon
500 usd for a headset that is better, newer, and cheaper than vive pro
Assuming you have base stations and controllers and don’t want the new finger tracking controllers otherwise its 1k lol
bronze cape
I'm worried about the international price tbh
Europe gets seriously screwed over on hardware prices
north rock
I'm pretty curious about the controllers
People were hyping the hell out of those things last year, I wonder if they'll live up to it
rough pulsar
The index controllers?
north rock
Yeah, the "Knuckles" or whatever
rough pulsar
I had the EV3 prototypes since january and I recently got the DVs, which from what I've heard are pretty close to the release version and they generally do live up to the hype.
plush cove
Gllium
rough pulsar
The DVs finger tracking is seriously good. I have a strange problem with one finger on my left hand where I can't 100% grip properly with it, more like 85-90%. The controllers can pick that up.
plush cove
Do you think that with the new index controllers its gonna be possible to move fingers independently?
rough pulsar
In vrchat, or in general?
plush cove
Vrchat
rough pulsar
Eventually I'd hope. I think some stuff has been said about their plans for support with them but most of the dev team's priority is with the quest. :/
vocal shard
quest is more important then fixing all bugs and performance, yes
rough pulsar
https://store.steampowered.com/valveindex
You can find the prices for the various parts of the Index here
plush cove
Ty
rough pulsar
And yeah, announced and the first wave of pre-orders should get them by the end of next month.
fathom swan
Has anyone here done vr chat and acid? Tryna decide if it’s going to be worth doing or not
plush cove
Uhh what?
Didnt they say in the security documents of the vive: dont play when tou are sick or drugged
You*
fathom swan
Idk my vive hasn’t arrrived yet
fathom swan
Dunno, I could’ve paid for two day shipping but it would’ve taken an extra 50 bucks
north rock
Man hasn't even gotten his hands on an HMD yet and is already fantasizing about the hallucinogens he's gonna use with it
jolly gorge
north rock
Anyway, I reckon that those controllers must be pretty awesome, but I don't think I could ever justify dropping ~$300 on mere controllers
rigid crescent
Considering the amount of time a lot of players spend using them I think it's worth it especially for what you're getting
Like I've deadass held these controllers for something like 2800 hours lol
rough pulsar
Think of it as cost per hour/day/whatever of use.
I got a Vive Pro almost a year ago, and use it almost daily. Under that assumption I've 'paid' about £2.50 per day for it, which to me feels totally worth it considering what I get out of it.
rigid crescent
.20 cents an hour, can't beat that
sharp oracle
Yay finaly got my computer
rigid crescent
I remember when I was saying "man if you consider the fun I've had, a dollar an hour can't be beat!" Back when I was at 600
languid beacon
Man I don’t even care about avatars I just wish everyone would upload a quest build of their world so I can hang out. I don’t care if I can see it correctly just being able to connect and talk is good enough
lunar shell
Yes but uploading a PC version and now a Quest version is extra work. Pain in the butt tbh.
I was going to make a quest version of on avatar I'm working on but had enough.
vocal shard
You got a quest now adeon?
languid beacon
No but I want one. The reason I don’t is vrchat is the main thing I play and all my friends hang out in Pc only worlds
boreal kelp
Went into 'never have I ever' and someone was spamming loud screaming sound effects
so now I'm just watching Bob Ross in a video world
vocal shard
Yeah I see. I think it will catch on and more worlds will get ported to crossplay
languid beacon
I had a choice between quest or commission an avatar. After seeing all the Pc only worlds I went with avatar :p
languid beacon
Won’t say which for privacy
boreal kelp
I did see a dude and a girl talk to each other while I was online
Sounded like they were getting together on a Discord
boreal kelp
The only thing I said on my mic was "Is the guy upside down on the ceiling even active?" because the TV was set to where only the instance creator could request videos
It was in the 'hangout house' world
lucid wigeon
What happened to the good avatar worlds?
tribal oxide
csgo monthly subscription for skins, but no one cares about skins. oof
tribal oxide
magic
proper zodiac
No
queen mango
Hold Shift when you're booting up the game.
Make sure you exited the game beforehand
near sky
And if you're playing with a Pentium I salute you
vocal shard
boreal kelp
I notice that when I'm playing games by myself, like when I was playing Yakuza on my PS2 prior to the storms hitting this afternoon, I joke and let my goofier side out
yet IRL (and VRChat by extension), I go mute
Aspergers and social anxiety are a rough combination 
final zodiac
I think it's because the former is single player
bronze cape
@boreal kelp Same issues here
Used to be so bad I would literally faint from anxiety
Booze helps
It really shouldn't, but it helps
tribal oxide
lol
quiet trench
does anyone else have a long delay when you speak..
cause for some reason the longer im in any instance of a world my voice lags behind more and more
quiet trench
my actual voice like
its delayed
people hear it 3-4 seconds late
tribal oxide
If so, it might be some kind of lag or you just need to make sure your microphone is plugged in correctly
quiet trench
its something that started yesterday x-x
lean valley
ionic cliff
See I can't play vrchat but I love it
covert linden
@quiet trench theres always a delay
heavy dawn
@covert linden
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523257824407715861/583439932488548369/20190529_194038.jpg 58-59fps with fur shader on a crappy i5 laptop with Intel video
So I guess the one I found is not as bad. :D
4 fps difference
I actually get 80fps if I go outside away from the mirror so I guess the mirror affects my framerate more than the fur shader :)
naive agate
hello
heavy dawn
Hi
naive agate
are you a fursona?
vocal shard
peak patrol
hey ^^ i just wanted to ask that why does my head go full on up when i crouch on desktop? and if any of you have info about it when it will be fixed to tell me ^^ thank you!
vocal shard
It's the new network IK @peak patrol
hey guys um i try to log into vr chat but im stuck in space ive tried everything but cant fix it can someone help me?
Did you play an emote changing into an avatar
no i didnt play for a long time but now im just stuck on loading with infinte tips
if i make a new account will that fix it?
boreal kelp
Have you tried reinstalling the game?
cobalt stag
I just merged my Steam account with my Vrchat account and it said I would get all my stuff back within the hour, but all my stuff is still gone. 😦 All my avatars and world favorites...
Is there a way I can get my stuff back?
covert linden
If you had any faves on the vrc acc thats what happens
Happened to all my friends and they didnt even. It sucks
median belfry
Alguma webnamorada on ai?
cobalt stag
I wish there was a warning.. so there's no way I can get all my avatars and worlds back??? D:
covert linden
Theres no warning cuz youre suppose to ge tthem back supposedly. Did you have any faves on the vrc account?
covert linden
Then you might not be able to get them back..
cobalt stag
:C
covert linden
You can try contacting support@vrchat.com , the vrc account usually takes dominance fave wise
cobalt stag
All of my stuff was on my Steam one though
covert linden
I asked if you had faves on the vrc one
cobalt stag
I did
covert linden
And if you did that one takess
dominance. Regardless you can try to email them tho to recover the favourites
cobalt stag
I used my vrc account for a while but I had to switch to my Steam because basically there was a creep I was trying to get away from.
covert linden
It cant.merge avatars, itd be an exploit for getting over than 16 faves
cobalt stag
._.
covert linden
But email them and see
brittle fern
i need IK rent channel or something cause its pissing me off how bad it is now
covert linden
ik 4 rent
minor pasture
hi
shut bronze
Hi, does anyone have trouble connecting to vrchat?
wheat flicker
yes me i get message connection to vrchat timed out
shut bronze
Exactly the same
shut bronze
Same again
wheat flicker
server problem ?
wheat flicker
i cant log back
heavy dawn
I'm in a lobby and I see a bunch of people
wheat flicker
me and @shut bronze get the same message when we try to log back
heavy dawn
Hmm, same part of the world?
I live in a city with fast optical connections directly to Amazon servers and I am still getting over 300 ping so yeah... it might be a bit laggy in general.
(not sure where VRC instances are hosted)
shut bronze
I'm in France with a bad connection but i can still watch HD videos, so the problem comes from VRChat.
heavy dawn
Yeah the game just started not responding so that's a thing
It re-logged me in...
Again not responding.
I guess if VRC gets no network traffic it just locks the main thread? 😆
Oh yeah, I'm uploading a 2GB video right now too. 😄
But yeah, even if I click to return to home it just goes to a (Not Responding) window for a while again.
gloomy valve
maybe wait for the video to upload first
i had the same issue when i tried to open steam and i accidentaly oppened Fubar2000 which just ate up my processing power. i could load between worlds but as soon as i loaded in the fps would drop and my audio would constantly cut out.
waxen whale
Does request invite feature doesn't work in friends only room when I am not the friend of room host?
echo iron
Assuh dude
primal island
Hi! Does anyone know how to add a custom URL for a video player in a world?
vocal shard
Can’t join any avatar worlds
They’re stuck on “image loading” and I can’t create an instance. All other types of worlds are working.
echo iron
My game has static
vocal shard
can i has friends
Where can i find Neptunia avatars
^ I know for sure there was at least one world that had Neptunia avatars, I just had to search for it
but omfg vr is insane
my headset arrived yesterday
and I was in it for a lot of the day
it felt so unreal
vocal shard
am i the only one who feels like the purpose of this game has sorta been destroyed? vrchat is supposed to be a social game where you can meet new people and talk to them, but it feels like everyone is in their own friend group in public worlds. and the people that arent in a group are the people that are playing music through the mic or being toxic.
Just join a friend group
hard to
I just go on vrchat to explore and see cool stuff along with find cool avatars
it isnt as simple as just "joining a friend group" its finding a group that you enjoy being with, and stuff like that
@vocal shard i have severe issues with social anxiety and anxiety in general so i usually stay in my room a lot, i go on vrchat to talk to people and meet new people since i dont get the opportunities in the real world.
Not that hard to join a group just find people who are having a conversation that peaks your interest and join in
@vocal shard wanna be my friendo?
in my personal experiences, everyone is usually older than me and talks about different topics and enjoy different things than me.
its just left me feeling sorta lonely and it sucks
Then just be a mute and not talk at all
whats the point of that if i want to meet new people?
Be mute until you find something interesting or when someone talks to ya
Also does Ryan or any popular vrchat streamers have worlds?
ill try it, i just dont really like the idea of it
thanks for helping me out and listening to some of my issues though
You're welcome
Also whatever happened to that one world with halls of different avatars? I can't find it it was like the first big avatar world
warped jungle
I had a problem with avatar worlds yesterday, toga and ikita avatar world wouldn't allow me to enter at all as well as some other world's, may be either bugged or something? Is it just me?
Also I'll be your friend lynx, I'm already a part of like 3 groups that are vastly different to each other so may be able to help you find that special group of friends your looking for
vocal shard
@warped jungle same problem just reset my computer and it works after
nimble elbow
What are some worlds that are almost always active but not too filled up that it becomes chaos?
bronze cape
Pug West has been pretty active since the Quest launch, and is pretty much impossible to overcrowd
fathom swan
Karaoke is pretty nice
warped jungle
Karaoke is great if you have some great people with you though
Also @vocal shard I'll try it again tonight and thanks for the help
languid beacon
My biggest concern with getting an index is being forced to use steam VR. Currently on my rift I stick with oculus home games because I get 90 FPS, the same game using the steamVR version will only get about 30 . I chalk this up to the fact that I am just using a rift and it wasn’t designed for steamVR and then index would work better because it would be it’s native environment, but I’m not exactly sure about that
umbral reef
@languid beacon Thats because you run both programs right now
Just running SteamVR is as good as just running the oculus stuff
Also the API for oculus to SteamVR has been improved a fairly long time ago so im not sure how long ago you tried it.
rotund wren
@languid beacon When I moved from rift to vive SteamVR did improve. Its still complete garbage and most of the same issues still occur but there is still a boost I would say.
SteamVR's desktop mode is so bad and I really miss Oculus Dash 😢
tall ingot
don't fall in love with Quakethorn
tall ingot
rather infamous content creator for vrchat
rigid crescent
Lol I've never heard of them
rotund wren
I don't keep up with famous vrc peoples there seems to be a new one each week
tribal orbit
^
tall ingot
🤷🏻 it's alright, just a weird little vent
rigid crescent
OhJP users say they're an avatars thief
rigid crescent
Stolen Booth models
ocean tulip
Oh.
rotund wren
Booth models? That Japanese store site?
I just bought an amazing elephant avatar off of there from the guy who made the cute animal world
rigid crescent
Yeah those models are nice
tall ingot
well, we were together but they said "it's not official" (maybe so they can still do other stuff? i won't bore you with details here) but they started flirting with another girl on a discord we are on, and i sort of spoke up in the appropriate vent channel, and quake was all that sound like an attack. so i dm'd them and they were all yeah.... we're through. so yep. sorry for this bit of drama, but yeah
ocean tulip
Oh god.
rigid crescent
Ok
rotund wren
banta amazing
ocean tulip
so uh
rigid crescent
Yikes in bold
ocean tulip
Yikes.
ocean tulip
What would VRchat consider nsfw?
tribal oxide
metaphorically
ocean tulip
Until you do the naughty no stuff.
tribal oxide
Yep
ocean tulip
Never have, never will.
languid beacon
1.) don’t break the law obviously. 2.) keep nsfw content in private behind closed doors with all parties consenting to seeing the content.
Basically if you get reported for nsfw it’s your own fault
mental verge
Imagine getting upset over seeing nipples or a doodle
languid beacon
Imagine breaking tos and then complaining about it
mental verge
I mean if someone is nsfw you can just hide there avatar now easy fix
I mean its not gonna kill you is it
Oh no they have nipples what ever shall I do
languid beacon
It’s still their fault though. Being in private isn’t consent to see nsfw content
Correct
So do so at your own risk or don’t do it at all
If you want nsfw content and refuse to be mature about it and follow the rules yeah you are going to get reported and claped
tribal oxide
pped*
covert linden
dude deserved the clap
tribal oxide
Wut
mental verge
I mean you can police it yourself anyway using the hide avatar button
languid beacon
It’s not allowed on the valve platform and vrc isn’t going to let the platform get in trouble over people being horny and breaking valve tos
covert linden
There are underage people in game and if they allowed it, game couldnt be 13+
ruby needle
There is way more to it tho @languid beacon
covert linden
Its probably illegal to show sexual content to minors
warped jungle
@mental verge don't forget the block and mute buttons as well for the especially toxic
mental verge
yeah you have full control of what you see
languid beacon
That is true, kids play this game and there is no age check.
They are allowed here
warped jungle
@mental verge only real worry is someone putting a dirty video on in the world, other than that safety is pretty good
mental verge
Meh its not going to kill anyone seeing something dirty
languid beacon
Also I’d rather vrc not become known as some sex game. It will never get over the label, that’s what happened to Second Life and the game just becomes super lame in public perception
mental verge
Its the parents fault if there kid plays a game and sees things they are not ment to see
ruby needle
No its not
this game has a age target of 13 and the rules are set up in this way
and this part is definitely neither fitting that target nor the rules
covert linden
you dont have full control of what you see thats a lie
warped jungle
Yeah you shouldn't let kids play vrc... Or at least keep extremely careful watch over them
languid beacon
Nigel is clearly either trolling or clearly doesn’t understand the concept of consent. I’d recommend you stop humoring them.
ruby needle
Also it's a really big issue if you tollerate / encourage such things in conjunction with platforms and sponsors/investors
covert linden
If I see something, I cant undo seeing it, You have a choice afterwards yes to not see it, but, you initially dont have a choice. I cant just close my eyes and scream "If anyone is naked, tell me!"
mental verge
as a parent they should study what they are letting there kids use
the internet is a big place and letting them roam free will end badly
warped jungle
Or the parent could just have more safety setting active since that's what it was for...
covert linden
as a parent a site thats supposedly safe for 13 year olds should be safe for 13 year olds.
Hey Fpaul can he get the old ban in vrchat and banned in discord thing?
tribal oxide
I'll just go then.
languid beacon
It’s ok to want things to be a different way Nigel, but we are telling you the way it is: and you either obey the rules or you get reported and banned. Those are your only two options.
mental verge
when did I say something to be a different way im telling how things are
languid beacon
You are incorrect
Like it or not you will be banned for the reasons I describe if you don’t heed what we are telling you
mental verge
also I never said im breaking the rules lol
rough pulsar
It's kinda like what an teacher at my old school told us on our first day
"Do whatever you like, just don't get caught"
mental verge
My parents didnt let me freely use the internet until I was 17 so all these kids running around its the parents fault if they see bad things not the games
rigid crescent
No, in the end the person doing the action is responsible lol
Damn right as I get here ;-;
mental verge
yeah both sides are to blame but not the games fault
rigid crescent
Yeah which is why the side doing the bad action gets in trouble lol
languid beacon
No it’s the person’s own fault for not making sure minors are not present. US law does not side with you, Nigel.
mental verge
to bad I dont live in us
iron thunder
I would never let a kid go into VRCHAT and I don't understand how parents let it happen.
languid beacon
That is not for us to determine
mental verge
neither is it for you
rough pulsar
If the user is under 13 then the fault lies with them and any legally responsible party as that's the minimum age for vrchat.
over 13 it gets weird, and weirder due to the international nature of the internet.
iron thunder
I also wouldn't want this game becoming Second Life cause Second Life was such a good canvas for creativity and it was ruined.
mental verge
Vrchat has to put that there to cover themselfs
languid beacon
Yeah nsfw ruined SL don’t let vrc repeat history
If “vrc is the new second life” becomes a mantra you can kiss that funding goodbye
ruby needle
and the twitch ban would follow soon too
languid beacon
Yeah Twitch ban would be even worse for VRc
iron thunder
Theres a fine line to tread though. The chaos in VRChat is what makes it so good. I got warned in Altspace for sticking a marshmallow up someones butt. Please, VRchat, I always want to be able to stick a fake marshmallow up someones butt.
mental verge
50% of twitch vrchat is people sleeping anyway lol
languid beacon
Yeah Twitch ban would be even worse for VRc
Crude humor and porn are different things
One is allowed on Twitch the other isn’t
Anyway I honestly think vrc rules are very straight forward and obvious and I don’t understand why people can’t wrap their heads around it
rigid crescent
To call 50% hyperbole would be an understatement. it's what? 1 person?
languid beacon
Don’t make the platform look bad. Don’t get our funding pulled. Don’t get us banned from Twitch.
We all know we’ve got a good thing going here. Keep it that way.
warped jungle
Vrc rules are based on common sense which isn't very common now ironically
heavy dawn
The new hub seems actually pretty wholesome these days.
Seems the update scared everyone away, including the trolls.
(At least when I play)
When I load into the game I load into my custom home world and then usually jump into the hub to see if anything is going on.
iron thunder
I don't know how people successfully stream this game on Twitch without getting banned. Last time I did there was a spontaneous cow dick.
mental verge
They talk to mirrors in public aswell
iron thunder
she had tits.
languid beacon
Guys can have those
rigid crescent
I mean they're not know for being safe for streamers especially for anyone even remotely known
heavy dawn
Meathamski: I mean, if you -are- streaming and that happens you can post the video clip to an unlisted YT video and send it off ot the support staff to figure out.
Usually the understanding with NSFW stuff is people keep it in a private room so only people interested in seeing it do so. Otherwise you risk being b&
languid beacon
I rarely stream Twitch but when I do I know my audience and know the likely hood of someone doing something like that and if it’s non-zero I just don’t stream. Busy public worlds are a big no. Friends + worlds with a wholesome crowd is fine
heavy dawn
Heh... I stream to mixer and my channel is set to family friendly so I try to keep it that way.
Sometimes I forget when Beat Saber lags and swear a bit. 🤷
rigid crescent
Makes sense that they'd stay out when they're targets lol it's unfortunate but kind of the state of the game
languid beacon
I keep my mic off for beat saber no one wants to hear panting
heavy dawn
I used to stream VRC more but to be honest half the time the content is boring. Sometimes it's wholesome though 😃
rigid crescent
Nothing wrong with streaming just hanging with friends though
Even if publics are totally ok
heavy dawn
@languid beacon I specifically put a felt pad over the Vive mic so you can't hear any breathing.
iron thunder
you have to go into vrchat with an idea if you want to stream or record. Otherwise you're just waiting for someone to show up and spam a meme.
heavy dawn
One of those feet for furniture. Just fits perfect over the mic. Still hears me talk but no breathing.
rigid crescent
You can just use push to talk for Beatsaber if you have the OpenVR advanced settings
Throw it on to grip and you're good
heavy dawn
I haven't tried that yet. Seems neat. My streams have been a 3 up view of my mixer chat, a camera on me IRL, and the FPV.
TBH I just never really want my Vive mic picking up plosives or breath so the felt pad thing works great.
rigid crescent
🤔 make your own community. People do it, it's a social game. Not even a hard thing to do
mental verge
Group system would be great I can block the "gangs" in waves
umbral reef
@rigid crescent Its stupidly hard to grow a group here unless you leach from other groups, want a shit ton of drama or become a 'famous Vrchat player'
rigid crescent
I've heard of plenty. World making, avatar making, drinking, drawing, music making, exercise, etc
You don't have to be s massive discord server. My friend has a drinking group thats fairly active and hangs out all the time.
heavy dawn
I think having an idea for a video in general is good. Shouldn't stop people from doing what they want but I have been having innocent fun with video for long enough. Probably need to work on there being a point to the things I record.
rigid crescent
Rofl
umbral reef
Most groups are also ran be legit childish people. There is a reason rumors go rampent within this community- Its a small part because of untech users and even more the group owners being childish, accepting everything at face value and spreading the stuff
languid beacon
I really want to stream ready player one in vr
rigid crescent
Like it's not THAT hard to start a community or at least the foundation of one
heavy dawn
Streaming a group trying to beat a hard co-op game in VRC is fun
... and probably more fun to watch.
Like when avoid the box first came out it was pretty cool.
mental verge
Avoid the lag free box
umbral reef
Free lag box*
heavy dawn
Free lag box: any VR headset? 😄
rigid crescent
I made a discord group for the movie world and it's got like 80 people, only been around since April and even then it was private. It's mainly just for info about the world and movie listings, changes, etc but there's already the foundation for it to be a "get together and watch movies" group which it was even before the discord existed
It's not hard to make a group you have to actually try though lol
umbral reef
Well the BM group from ghosto has like 60 people with a core group active. So i totally get what you mean.
rigid crescent
Well that discord is mainly just for info like I said but I also stopped planning to do movie nights and whatnot with it because I started working
umbral reef
But then we just come back to the original point fez made
Good fucking luck finding those groups unless you directly know someone in it or find a world with a link...
jolly glade
Ello,does anyone know where i can find a normal modern knuckles avatar?since i cant seem to find one.
rigid crescent
Even that isn't very hard
umbral reef
Go to the large #community-servers-old that are all for streamers/old community groups or worlds?
rigid crescent
Meet people ingame? I mean unless what you want is stupidly niche lol
languid beacon
@jolly glade just search for Sonic there are a few video game themed places
rigid crescent
Odds are it doesn't exist in the first place.
Because everyone has that "too hard" mindset.
It's a social game, create your own social group. You don't even have to just suddenly make it. Get together friends also interested and make it together. That's how you create a community...
jolly glade
@languid beacon I tried,i went to like every one of them
mental verge
Be the party
rigid crescent
Then once clans or whatever are active then you can make your "Friendly Stitches Sewing Group" clan ingame as well
languid beacon
I know one where there is a hub that looks like Spyro it had all kinds of videogames characters including the sonic cast. Weren’t game rips they were nice
jolly glade
Oh?
languid beacon
@jolly glade
jolly glade
Whats the name of it?
languid beacon
Don’t remember 😄
jolly glade
Damn
rigid crescent
And why does it have to be solely people in publics? If your interest is Singing why go from person to person in publics and asking if they sing?
fathom swan
Why not go into Karaoke lmao
rigid crescent
Why not ask friends and mutuals that already have "vetted" friends of their own
jolly glade
The results i got for just searching ''Sonic'' were mostly classic knuckles avatars
rigid crescent
Like I can almost guarantee that, assuming it's not something niche, starting a group for it isn't hard.
jolly glade
Im looking for a modern one specifically
rigid crescent
Ive seen one on Twitter even for music production and promotion
jolly glade
I just mean the normal modern knuckles lol
But boom knuckles could also work thats a pretty nice idea
languid beacon
Just warning you Knuckles has a bit f a reputation in this game. Even a normal one gives people PTSD
I’d love to see a normal modern knuckles slowly blend shape into the meme one
tribal oxide
Not knuckles ;-;
heavy dawn
I love seeing the short clips of Sonic Boom the animation. Seems like the show writers were having fun with that one.
Sega in general seems to not care one iota what you do with the Sonic IP.
languid beacon
Oh yeah the reboot, dispite the redesigns and bad tie in game, is actually a funny show
Is there a set metric for community lab worlds becoming properly public or is that a big mystery algorithm?
rigid crescent
Might just be popularity, i watched a world go live in I wanna say under 24 hours
languid beacon
Yeah but not all game companies are chill with model rips like Sega.
jolly glade
Nintendo.
languid beacon
Yeah they’re like polar opposite
Use a few seconds of trailer footage and they demonitize your YouTube video
tribal oxide
mk
ruby needle
I dont know if finnish is that much spread here 😄
sacred drift
Any server issues rn?
deft copper
I met a few compatriots, but yes, I guess we must be a vast majority to get a channel, anyway
tribal oxide
That's normal
It's kind of slow
You won't, go to another world or something
It'll show up then
You're welcome.
mk
tribal oxide
You could search that.
covert linden
@river star you have to upload it as a mobile, and theres a 2 mesh limit, 5k polys, and no dynb. You also have to upload a pc version, under the same blueprint
materials
ruby needle
Create a Atlas
there is no need to have 6 materials with the same exact shader
especially on mobile
you avatar has be be less then 10MB in total too
so with 6 textures you definitely aint doing that unless they are super small
thats not it
yes
inner cape
read the d o c u m e n t a t i o n ya all
inner cape
its fine, i didnt mean it like that
languid beacon
You don’t need to unwrap to texture atlas
Unwrap will make it so you can’t use your old textures
Are you using cats atlas or manual?
Can’t click vids or see titles at work but you should be using cats plugin for blender and material combiner for blender. It’s intended specifically for vrchat and makes your new giant texture atlas and new UVs with a single button press
Shouldn’t be messing with unwrap
Just so you know the texture atlas tool on cats requires the materials combined plugin as a dependency
It’ll should throw you a download link when you attempt to use t if it’s not there
You will need a tutorial on how to install blender plugins if you’ve never done so
I don’t recommend combining every texture not a single atlas unless you know how to mark parts of an avatar as a unique material
If not Best to atlas all things without transparency ; then atlas all things with transparency so you have two atlases and can use two different shaders.
Ideally just atlas everything together then manually make a unique material for anything that will need separate shader settings in unity
heavy dawn
You can make one texture with an alpha channel and just make opaque things opaque within that one texture.
languid beacon
Yeah so long as you know how to make your own separate materials in blender
Most don’t so they atlas separately
Two materials is fine. Four is still excellent
heavy dawn
understands the level of skill now
languid beacon
I miss when the internet was all jpgs
I’m on a tin can connection
Ok you are close but it’s actually the atlas tab
Tho combine same materials first that might help
Avoids duplicates on the atlas
All the material sphere icons vanished and you have only one now?
Atlas tab
Refresh material list
Check all of them
Generate atlas
It’ll ask where to save the image
Keep in mind the old textures will no longer work for the model
So save your blend file first
Keep an unatlassed version in case you want to add things later
Wrong tab
In your pic, top left, click atlas those are tabs
heavy dawn
Yeah if it can generate one atlas and it looks good afterward, go with it 😄
languid beacon
Yeah it applies the atlas right after you save it so if the model still looks ok it’s good
Otherwise undo and find out which texture doesn’t like being atlassed with the others. Usually it’s something with alpha
inner cape
heavy dawn
your face is a #avatar-optimization
glad sigil
D e c i m a t e d
haughty zinc
😙✌
heavy dawn
💜 optimized for VR
languid beacon
The Decimation where after collecting all 6 infinity plugins Thanos wiped out 50% of all polygons across the metaverse with a click of a button
wise gate
do you all find the oculus version of vrchat better or the steam version, which one should i use for the oculus s?
glad sigil
Is there a difference? o:
languid beacon
OculusSDK is native and will run better than SteamVR
glad sigil
Listen to them Idk what I'm talking about
languid beacon
No need for a SteamVR middleman if you have Rift s or Rift
As an example I have a gtx 970 I will get 90 in VRChat home on OculusSDK with no one else around but only 45 in the same situation SteamVR
In crowds it’s usually 45 on OculusSDK vs 33 on SteamVR which is the difference between livable and sick for me
SteamVR also seems to degrade fps over time, requiring relogs every hour or so; OculusSDK version does not do this for me
Really wish we could still use OculusSDK on steam vrchat
Is there a start parameter for that?
heavy dawn
vrchat.exe --gotta-go-fast
stiff fractal
anyone else having issues?
wide falcon
im only having issues with the notification system
stiff fractal
its taking 17 years to log in
wide falcon
seems like its not working on my client
delicate perch
I have the rift and i use steamvr for full body sadly. Wish i didnt have to.
elfin forge
can someone please tell me why everyone sounds laggy even tho my frames and ping are fine
vocal shard
Probably something server side going on
elfin forge
its like this for some days now
tribal oxide
What do you guys think of a nanachi avatar
meager solstice
Seems like a basic avatar
tribal oxide
I was just wondering
quiet trench
aahh nanachi avatars
tribal oxide
Best avatars
quiet trench
i used to use them a lot until people in public worlds kept saying rude things to me about it like every time i joined one
languid beacon
The fps difference is so big for me that even though I have full body hybrid I usually just skip it and log in oculus SDK for the smoother framerate
tribal oxide
I've actually never seen a nanachi avatar bullied
quiet trench
because they hide in private worlds mostly
tribal oxide
Oof
meager solstice
What improved? @languid beacon
languid beacon
Nothing to my knowledge. OculusSDK has always been higher FPS than SteamVR, since initial release
meager solstice
makes sense oculus should have a higher frames on its native platform
languid beacon
Especially since it has to run in the background anyway
SteamVR is just a middleman at that point
meager solstice
And plus oculus also has a better ASW than what steam uses
languid beacon
I miss being able to use it on steam launcher
meager solstice
Might not be better but it’s more refined
lament dragon
👀
ruby burrow
The Oculus client is naturally faster for Oculus users since you don't have to run two separate systems when using it.
For Vive or WMR users they only ever need Steam-VR, so bypass the problem.
It's not that Steam-VR is slow at all. Just that Oculus forces you to use it's own VR operating system even to access others.
I know someone who used to have the exact same CPU and GPU as I have, who often suffered unplayably bad lag when playing the game with his Rift, despite me in the same worlds being fine.
He upgraded CPU as soon as he could, whilst I'm still using the same one.
That was before the Oculus client was available for the game. For any Rift users that don't need FBT or advanced settings, it definitely seems the better way to play the game.
vocal shard
I wonder if there's something with the Oculus client that eats up some processing as well. With my rift i would have lower fps and asw constantly kicking in on my main rig. It felt unpleasant at times. On the Oculus client as well.
With wmr it always ran much better and had a more reliable higher framerate for me, even using the Odyssey+
ruby burrow
That's surprising. I'd have thought that WMR's higher resolution would make it harder to run than a Rift.
slate verge
i think the worlds favorite list is broken, can't unfavorite worlds
boreal kelp
Same here on desktop
The playlists will show up but whenever I decide to favorite another world, the playlist numbers say "0/32"
slate verge
😦
vocal shard
That's what I thought too squishy. I was really surprised. I don't know if it's just me. I did ask on Reddit and someone else said something similar about the two
weak valley
hello
vocal shard
Hi
weak valley
🙂
vestal pier
rule 15 btw
sweet nebula
Nanachi avatars
I use those pretty much 99% of the time. I've only gotten flak for it like... once, I think. My immediate impression of others with that same model is "this person is cool", if it helps. 
night mauve
c:
night mauve
Ok
weak valley
im new here soo idk what im doing
sturdy flint
Is it possible to be approved for development faster?
night mauve
@weak valley me 2
weak valley
ok
queen mango
You should prolly read the #rules first. As standard for everyone who's new to this server. Just make sure you understood all of them
weak valley
ok brb
slate verge
rainy worlds are my favorites~
split aspen
Hey. Does anyone know if VR Chat works with the Index controllers?
vocal shard
Yes. They work, but the actual finger tracking aspect we're yet to hear much about. They teased some basic finger tracking a few months ago and there is a push for full controller support
split aspen
I'm hoping that I'm still able to use custom animations with the gestures is all.
vocal shard
That's the plan.
split aspen
So they're hoping that if I were to say stick out my index finger, the animation for holding a prop should happen on that gesture?
vocal shard
From what we saw so far, yeah. It works the same as the rift.
But I believe they would also like to implement better finger tracking as well
slate verge
thats great
split aspen
But can I use custom gesture animations now?
slate verge
i'm sure they can? (that would be kinda cheap if they don't have it)
cheap as in rip off
vocal shard
Yes... Why wouldn't it?
split aspen
I dunno. I assumed that you could only do the gestures using the finger tracking and that they haven't implemented that yet either.
neon edge
sage zenith
I've been having a hard time staying in them
my connection times out so quickly and I'm in desktop mode smh
winged fossil
hello
vocal shard
rigid crescent
you can try putting touhou into the world search but probably not
vocal shard
anyone in knuckles server
gloomy remnant
finally getting full body this weekend 
tulip light
Nice!
queen mango
Nice!
slate verge
this one guy kept booping my nose smh
vocal shard
👀
dawn pecan
Getting your bose booped is all a part of the VRChat experience, pity your ancestors who were never able to experience such booping
small coyote
heeeeyy
slate verge
hm.....
gloomy remnant
i joined a lobby yesterday and after a few seconds, almost the whole lobby got kicked out
idk whats causing this but it sucks
dawn pecan
A large amount of people crashed yesterday I think, about 15 hours ago. Might just have been the instance I was in though
gloomy remnant
no like, they all joined right after at the same time
like the game forced them to rejoin
slate verge
you get re-directed into another instance, if a current instance is bugged
gloomy remnant
ah, that makes sense
solemn relic
anyone in a friend world or random world get kicked
shell trench
How hard?
tawdry bluff
lol
rotund wren
A lot of server issues happened yesterday and since there ain't been anything said they're probably expecting it to be over soon
tacit plank
Does anyone know how the VRChat avatar API works? I want to find a public avatar by name. A friend of mine is using it, but because he's offline I can't see who made the avatar, which means that I can't go to the avatar world
Nvm, the & goes in front of the search while ? goes in front of the API key. Weird
Edit: The search by name is ignored though. Maybe it needs a full VRChat username
alpine crater
Honestly I'd support an option for Index/Knuckles (controller) users to disable the animator gestures in favour of proper finger tracking on the hands instead
tribal oxide
I don't know why, but that made me laugh just seeing the "controller" in parentheses
Next to Knuckles x3
alpine crater
just in case people wanted finger tracking but only for "do you kno da wae" Knuckles for some reason
like a thousand uganda knuckles waving their fingers at you
tribal oxide
I won't be able to take that, I already was chased by Nikis or whatever doing the custom avatar thing 
Like at least 5 of them
neat wyvern
So I was in open mic night, and I see a guy called "Jin_Hyun"
Now I mention this because previously I'd recorded a video of him doing some sick ass beatboxing and I was about to say hi to him but then my game crashed
tribal oxide
@neat wyvern I was in the pub talking to people when I remembered that my computer was on for a while so it was about to overheat, I was going to start saying "Yeah I won't be able to talk much longer because my computer is abo-" Computer shuts down
covert linden
Ya need a better cooling unit
tribal oxide
I think we talked about it the first few days I was here
I have like 5 fans going straight into my computer
covert linden
Is it a laptop
tribal oxide
No.
covert linden
Then theres an issue there with the cooling
tacit plank
Did you overclock it too much?
tacit plank
Mine is overclocked from 3.6 to 4.8 and the CPU fan is mounted in the wrong slot. It's still cold
tacit plank
Even if it's 50C, any proper computer will cool that no problem
tribal oxide
I need to remember what that is lol
covert linden
Get an Ac if its to a bad degree
tacit plank
You have issues with the fan position, dust, thermal paste, or some other things
covert linden
For your own health*
ruby needle
AC's are not much healthy tho 
fathom swan
Is here a way to see the internal temperature of he computer?
tribal oxide
I'm not wasting more power than I already am, jesus, I don't even need to play that long
tacit plank
Nice Maker
covert linden
Neither is sitting in a 30C room fpaul
tribal oxide
thermometer
tacit plank
DL hwinfo or something
tribal oxide
I'm joking
heavy dawn
I use speccy but yeah, a bunch of apps will reveal your system temps
fathom swan
How hot is it where y’all at?
covert linden
I just guessed with 30C I highly doubt its that hot for them
tribal oxide
Uh, yesterday it was a lot worse but..
tacit plank
18
covert linden
Its 13c outside today
fathom swan
Mf Europeans
tribal oxide
84
fathom swan
It’s like 95 where I’m at lmao
covert linden
Im canadian.
heavy dawn
84 is nothing
fathom swan
You ever cooked an egg on a hot car boy
heavy dawn
Yeah, it can be like 13c outside and without the AC in my building, my apartment COOKS. Every window open and it can still get to 28C in there.
tacit plank
84 is about 28-29 in C
covert linden
28C is insane for me personally I need cold to function
ruby needle
still endurable even if a bit warm
heavy dawn
Yeah I guess if you have no AC, 28C outside is hella hot.
tacit plank
My room is 24, I'd like it a bit warmer
covert linden
Its endurable, but it wont make your pc overheat to oblivion
fathom swan
Bruh that’s like normal temperatures for the south lmao