#vrchat-general-2
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u can still dm pika even if not friends
oh. never knew that
Why do I get stuck in the loading screens so often
can anyone help me with making my character work cuz it and idk why
I think people will be able to help you there at #avatar-rigging or #avatars-2-general
ok ty
The French worlds always have no one in them...
anyone down to play?
Do Vr headsets come with a mic? im thinking of getting one for Vrchat
depends on which
most do
okay
why do u think its junk?
It's smartphone crap and just look at it 
Bootleg VR. I don't buy for those.
why do u think its bootleg?
I thought sharper image went out of business in 2006
idk
Haah same compatible
i think this is a different one
disgusting
I have a question, would VRChat ever be moved to a Server more 'in the middle' of everyone? I have 180+ ping and I can notice that when I speak I hear my voice on others mics with like 2 sec delay and it can be either a bit lower or even higher than that. I can notice some delays on other things too and it's been like that for sooo long, so I was just wondering.
I see my self interrupt conversations by accident or people staring at me still hearing me due to the delay for example, quite eh..
if you have a 180ms ping you have a 180ms delay, any longer is a different cause then the server connection.
However to your original question:
The game is based in the US and thus likely will keep the servers there, photon it self is also not the best in that regard, it take a bit to get usd to interms of interrupting and such, but people know the issue any no one really will blame you for it.
Of coirse more server failure happening
So moving the server to either US East (North Virginia) which could decrease 50-65ms for West EU Users or even USA Dallas which can also decrease about 25-30ms for West EU Users - wouldn't be worth it at all?
🤔 i talk to people overseas with little to no issue with lag and whatnot tho
well I've gotten used to it but I imagine other users not feeling well with the delay at all
and not complain
Hey~~
yeah that's a GIANT link
lots of my friends are having trouble recieving friend requests please fix this
Are people still getting invite bugs?
I feel bad for anyone that buys stuff like the thing in that link. 3dof mobile VR isn't remotely the same thing as real 6dof VR.
There really needs to be two more distinct phrases for it, due to how much it hurts the industry due to confusing and disappointing people who don't understand VR yet.
Is like if both cars and helicopters were both just called "Personal Transports", and you had to point out to people that one can't fly, and then also explain why that's a big difference.
that's a funny way of putting it
Yeah, it is. Just doing my best to find a comparison.
Prince Ali, glorious he, Ali Ababwa! Genuflect, show some respect, down on one knee! I mean uh hi how’s it going everyone.
Going good thanks. Just finished working on an avatar for a friend.
Juicy
Haha. Yeah, already been through a bunch of bugs. Model seems mostly fine though.
TFW your kneecaps are on the wrong side of your legs
Nothing fancy, but he's been needing a replacement for his old badly decimated one for a while now. https://gyazo.com/705e435c30dbce4d23ee81958553f62a
who can i talk to about not seeing notifications?....still? i emailed vrcsupport but havent gotten an email back for 4 days
video players broken for anyone else... yet again? why do they keep breaking
Something to do with Youtube updating stuff on their end, meaning that for VR-Chat video streaming to be compatible the devs also need to update the game.
They can't do this until after Youtube has done theirs, and so there's always a few hours of video player downtime each time it happens.
Anyone feel free to correct me if there's details I'm not getting right.
Pretty much right
There is a way to manually update it yourself, but I've never felt the need to try it. Would only work locally anyway.
Do you still need the VR Input Emulator for the new advanced settings these days? I never updated my advanced settings until now so it broke my playspace mover and now I can't use it anymore :L
Welp, video players are broken, apparently.
@final vale Words like that might make people think the wrong way. Maybe replace it with a more tone-friendly word?
Did my msg get deleted or is it just the school net? Edit: The net is definity shit too
well this sucks
over half of my avatars have been stolen along with almost all my paid unity assets have been ripped from my avatars including 100's of hours animating
kinda wanna cry rn
yikes..
Ripped from your avatar world, right?
That is why I don't publish stuff I really like in an avatar world.
They must really love your work.
@gaunt pine But you were using MMD meshes? If so they did nothing worse than you did desitributing someone else work without their consent. I would argue that they stole nothing from you just from meshes creator and assets creators, and you caused it partially
anyone here running vrchat with an 8700k & 1070ti??
hi
i need a laptop that can run vrchat ._.
i have a fat budget atleast
but idk what high end units got good cooling and life span
anyone got any clue what might be a good goto
You will be buying something along the lines of ajet engine if you want proper cooling
@vocal shard Check out MSI's lineup. I have a GT73 6RF and I've been running VR on it since late 2016. Not just VRC but VR with a Vive and now a Vive Pro and sometimes an Acer WMR.
What would the minimum specs be for running VRC with an HTC Vive? im asking this so that i dont accidentaly spend a few thousand kroner on something i cant use
mh
@rough pulsar u think a gtx 1660ti might be enough
ive got a oculus rift
mobile vrchat when
@vocal shard I would get 9600k or Ryzen equivalent and 1660ti as bare minimum
@vocal shard i'm running VRC on a i5 3750K and a 1060 3gb and I am not experiencing issues
@vocal shard Once mobiles are not filled with loads of bloatware, get stronger processing and better power usage.
I'm running vr with a 1080ti and i7-6700k (overclocked)
I had a 980ti before and it runned smoothely
Why did my previous message got deleted
Not the one with the r word, the next one
Is 150M tris a lot? I think I messed up in a shader of mine
Nevermind, it's just a cube and a circle. The profiler just displays 160 million tris in 4700+ batches
It's like a profiling memory leak or something... Running 1500FPS, so the above numbers are bull
@vocal shard Buy one from the oculus or vive website, or by Omen
Dont buy one with optimus, make sure to do your research
Can i i get countdown link for vrc dev stream?
@indigo yacht #announcements
Ye cheked it and tbh i cannot read that pacific time how about lay it straight for me in 24hr finnish time
Will it be 20:00 tonight or tomorrow?
What timezone are you in?
Gmt+2
Thats gonna be at 02:00 then (or 2am)
Ok finaly in way i can understand
Im not sure on other browsers but i know in chrome if you throw a time like 5 pm UCT into google it will give the time in your timezone
I tried googling pacific time converted to 24hr finnish time and i got bible full of time charts but couldnt simply read it in way to confirm when
@indigo yacht it will be at 0300
for finland if ur talking about the livestream
@brisk bone idk where u live...
its tomorrow tho in the usa
could possibly be on the 9th for u
2am tomorrow cuz today isnt possible
2am on the 9th
Maybe
i mean considering its on the 8th..... for Europe it would be the 9th
vr chat nneeds to start flagging modded clients
they become nuisance just dropping portal first time its funny
but now it become so toxic it ruins the fun
im so sorry I read hack and modded clients
dun kill me mods ;-;
I Read that as like easy hack as to how to mod clients rip
By the time I got here, they had already deleted their message
its just sad presentation room used to be fun
I deleted it because I realized I messed upp
but now its just ruin by harrasing hackers had put report on it but lol.
ive had no problems in public for the most part
Private worlds kinda defeat the purpose of meeting new people 😛
wait till you see someone drop mass portal with stupid jokes lol.
In my personal experience, bad actors like that tend to hang around specific worlds like presentation room or the box. Simple solution is to just find a new world to hang out in
vr chat instead updating stuff we didn't know we coudl use, how about updating security api. that block these type of program to run
theyre trying. Theyre even trying to hire a new security manager.
its not as simple as just doing it
security engineer*
As a wise man once said, "these things, they take time."
how long is vr chat been on steam?
it wasnt an issue when it was first released, also, each dev is better at different things, thus why theyre trying to bring someone new in to help wit that
IF its so simple how about you do it?
https://www.vrchat.net/careers Theyre well aware it's a problem, it's not as simple as just fixing it. Same with crashers, it's hard to do anything beside report when theyre using particles or shaders.
simple solution if we make a new instance of a room a host isn't normal user, it could just probably prevented by kicking that person out without any approval by host.
lol i wonder what "new instance" of a main room is can we kick out people like actually hosting a room?.
Hosting a room is complex when theres thousands of instances and rooms that can be open. Just start a world, invite a few friends and it'll be put on active
And youll be the host of the room
there is no simple solution, they'd need a bot to detect if it's a modded client, and remember the web socket spam issue? It would be doing a similar thing, having to check often, as people can toggle the clients on and off as far as im aware. Theyd also have to figure out how to detect it, and how it acts differently than playspace mover
For now we can just report via video the people who are violating the TOS, and keep playing as per usual, the devs are trying
Why did my message where i apologized for the R word use got deleted
arrrr me matey
Rum n Bass?
I mean there is a word for it. It’s avatar.
You technically only have one avatar and it changes. But most people just call them different avatars. But in the original meaning of the word you only have one.
i am bus
Yes
Bus is you.
paints a 70s mural on the van
For some reason the movie world isnt Active listed even though it's always pretty populated, very consistently too
@covert linden
Thats odd, I can go to any world and make it public within minutes.. guess I havent tried that one tho
Sorry make it into active
Weird, there's even pretty dead old worlds on active
I think the active world list is manually curated. Which instances make it there is automatically populated
I dont think so
I've gone to the old rollercoaster map and got it on the active, the mcdonalds one
all jsut misc maps I go they get it on there with just a few people
If not then I’m surprised
Active has looked pretty much the same since I joined a year ago
thats because people stay in the same worlds
there’s client users every lobby and they never get banned lol
clients are inevitable
people witness crashers crash people and they don’t get banned either
You have your output logs. Those can be used as evidence
that usually doesn’t do anything
besides they will always just make a new account if they get banned using a vpn
Alright I need to nip something in the bud here can we please stop using the term “client user”? Every single VRChat player is a client user.
no they aren’t
It’s important to be accurate
client refers to a hacked version of the game in context
You are trying to say “modified client user”
how everyone uses it
Client is the program
yes but it’s basically slang at this point
Yeah and it needs to stop lol
and it won’t lol
If clients aren’t allowed we all need to stop logging in
if you get all technical but that’s besides the point, you know I’m referring to people with modded clients
Just trying to help people not sound ridiculous to anyone with a programming background
Nbd just a pet peeve
we all know that when people say client when referring to vrchat they usually mean modded client
anyways, I’m just saying clients and crashers are inevitable and it’ll be really hard to fix that
besides I don’t see an effort being made to fix it
It’s going to cause confusion when there is talk about the client people will think using modified clients are allowed
._.
Hmmmm....
nvm
So, provided you know better, please try to use correct terminology
Helps curb it
The game keeps crashing lol
@languid beacon these client users need to be banned, am I rite or am I rite?
Morning everyone
Those terrible client users. The game should run without a local client. [/S]
^
No clients allowed. Webapps only.. Wait.. That doesn't work because you still have a server handling traffic and Auth.. This is an epidemic! Oh noes! (still /S)
Just use blockchain
If we ban the official client we can guarantee no legitimate user will get crashed.
bro are you using a client to chat here right now 👀
Imagine a world without clients...
how will I post on Twitter?
Get a blue bird
Give them a note
And send it on it’s way
Then in the open air it will tweet ur msg
Wanna know something scarier than the fact that we all have skeletons in our bodies?
we all also have tongues
We do?
I think so
Everyone who has ran VRChat on their computer has used a client 👻
no theyre not
Only hackers use clients
The vrchat.eve IS a client.
Vrchat isn’t a client!
Yes it is!
reeeeeeeeee
SO is discord, you are on the discord client
Nooooooo
Oh God.. I'm a dirty client user?
Modified clients are forbidden
Actually, the VRChat executable is a client
no we arent
As is pretty much any application you use to access a service 😛
you are telling yourself lies
Git away from me with these LIEZ
Fear monging is forbidden so we are giving you legit information
You're using the discord client right now!
I am always ashamed of myself. That's why I pla-- waste time in VRChat

There's no escaping the clients man, they're everywhere
D :
We must stay away from them
I’ve never used a client, I never was a client, never even spoke to a client!
I will stay pure and innocent
Impossibru
You’ll never take me alive u client!
Pull the plug. It's the only way to be sure
Well all vrchat problems would be solved if we had no clients at all as we would have no users
SteamVR will always have audio problems though
What's outside? The map is terrible
Erets thinking in the big picture. Smart cat
Permission Denied. Permission Not Granted.
For some reason I want the VRC Status Rank, Veteran Rank,
I don’t want cosmetic ranks
Rank Up! Master Sergeant Shooter Person
And add Badges in VRC.
Now ill be one with the cool kids.
High Rank = Respect.
What is steamVR, I got rid of that thing
I usually hide as green. People are more talkative when I have a green tag.
But you'll be affected by other people's safety settings.
SteamVR is the protocol VRChat uses to render the VR wrap on your headset. Unless you use the oculus store version or use desktop you definitely didn’t get rid of it.
I missed the days of the green tags, 2017 was good
Maybe an odd question but had VRchat ever goals of going to the GearVR around the DK2 time?
Green is poop.
Yeah its not gone gone but whenever I run vrchat in VR now, it doesn't use steamVR
By default, people wont hear your audio, see your shaders, and particles, if you hid it to user rank.
I think you mean SteamVR Home
Yeah that’s a different thing entirely
That’s not SteamVR tho
It was, I swapped to Open Composite and it was gone
Oh that’s interesting. Does it support multiple drivers like SteamVR can do? I’d use it if I could still use Oculus + Vive trackers
I need to see if I can make my kinect work for full body
I'm not sure if Open Composite supports vive but I use Rift and it works great
Oh. Wk t work for me. It's a kinect v2
Guys anyone knows how long it takes for vrchat mods to remove ban? Already waiting 1 day still not removed from ac
Email them and ask how long it is.
Soft ban right?
It should say when you log in.
false ban they told me it will get removed but already waiting 24hours
Well just keep waiting is all you can do
Did the email state when they would undo the ban
no they just said it will get removed
But yeh, ask for a confirmation via emailing them.
Its in the official VRC web.
but no time frame
Only ones who can tell you are staff
what chanel for advice on how to stop crashing around players it repeats what they say over and over
Use safety settings and block shaders particles or even their avatar
Just block animations from non-friends.
They can.
When they are meant to crash yes.
@ruby needle because oculus + vive trackers
it happens all time vr chat freezes too
oculus needs to move over to valve tracking. it would make things if the all agreed to be universal
Yeah not sure why they don't.
owo
Mickey just enable your safety setting and you should be fine unless you play on a super low end system
okay
Oculus has moved to sensor-less tracking. They don’t see a future in setting up sensors around your house.
How is everyone?
Well they came out and said that the rift s wasnt a good replacment for rift
Well, can you get a link to them saying that, that’s the first I’ve heard of this
but if they are set on sensor less tracking its gonna suck since its gonna make htc and vive have no competition
I can find the blog on it anymore but it was something to do with rift pro/rift 2
HTC's VIve does have competition. Valve's Index.
Moderations aren't discussed on the discord. If someone is doing reportable behavior send it to moderation@vrchat.com
i meant htc and valve. but essentially they are partners since steam helped htc
only competition is pimax
is there a way of doing full body tracking with inside out based systems? it'd mean there's broader competition if there is a viable way
ive never seen anything saying valve helped oculus. They did help htc. since htc trackers aren't even made by htc
Because it was before Facebook aqusition
Unless you followed dk1 and dk2 development of course you will not know
@solid whale For oculus? Well the only way to ever get it working is by using a camera away from the headset... Kind of what they dont want by default so it will be an (expensive) addon if they ever make one.
I just know Vive is considered a partnered creation between valve and htc
@umbral reef I presumed as much, but I also meant for the windows mixed reality ones too
Same applies there. You cant do FBT from the persons PoV. Too many death/blind spots for it to work properly at all.
Its why the vive and quest just have the pucks as they already got the camera's and why all other products that dont use the camera's from Vive/valve will need to make there own.
You can do the janky kinect stuff but its more of a gimmick then anything else.
And most other options as i stated above work far from perfect also.
They shared technology. but weren't in a exclusive partner ship
like they are/were with htc vive
it was not exclusive partnership lol
FBT camera tech is really far though already compared to the Kinect days without pucks even. So who knows. Maybe in a few year we will have a dope FBT camera
LH tracking is free for everyone to use
Yes because valve made it "opensource" but it started as exclusive help for HTC and the partner ship didnt just cover tracking im sure there's quite a bit valve got into with vive
If you are sure it must be true
you seem pretty full of yourself. but if you look at stuff online some of the first prototypes of htc was made by valve
O.o
dunno if i will ever find a leonardo watch model
Isn't vrchat supposed to have some kind of security againts private avatar theft and ip logging?
You can rip any asset from any game
IP logging is literally a non-issue considering any program you use without a VPN will see your publically facing IP address. If you're using a service that is peer to peer (which includes anything using steam's voice services, etc), people will be able to see that IP as well. IP addresses are not considered private info and you shouldn't be the slightest bit worried if someone knows your IP.
As for private avatar stealing, that's a whole different kind of complex that even triple A companies can't figure out
I need to learn how to modify and join models
#avatars-2-general can help you find the resources you need
hi
Yup. Been hanging around there for a bit
Hello
Nope
Hi bored, I'm dad.
I'm also stuck working.
Three hours to go. Then I either work on an avatar or just goof off in there.
I'm very new to 3D modeling. Got a little bit of ideas.
tfw your friend kept pestering you to work on their model, but also want you to play vrchat with them and so you can't get any work done and can't deliver their avatars...
A little patience... Yeah~eah.. Just a little patience..
I am having a weird issue with unity. When i am trying to upload my model using the SDK it wont let me type anything in. Anyone know how to fix that?
Make sure the scene isnt on pause
It isn't on pause
Check for red errors in the console
Can't see any
Anyone figured out a way to get the power button remapped in steamVR on a Vive tracker? It exists in the SteamVR input mapper but games don’t seem to be able to do it
2019 1
thats ur reason....
yea well I cant fin the unity tht it says to download so
my reason is that I cant use it bc of that
i dmed u it
Why is it that whenever I play VRChat today it takes 5 minutes until it and steam crashes?
Yo I’m having a similar problem, every time I launch steamvr, steam itself just crashes
Have to relaunch steam every time(still with steamvr opened of course, or I be in endless loop)
endless loop has been happening to me for like a week now and i cant go in vrchat cause of that and i still don't know how to fix it 😦
Is the videoplayer broken?
VRC_SyncVideoPlayer works fine; have been some changes in other components since web panels have been disabled.
Hm, ok my shits probably just broken
The Video Player is...not the most reliable thing...but it should still work.
Definitely not always the most reliable. I have regular issues with inconsistence in queuing a video link; in-which it ignores the URL most of the time, but not all of the time. Nature of content or even specific URL doesn't matter. - I haven't figured out what separates the two situations. Haven't spent the time.
You could turn to Jetdog8808's prefabs, dabble in seeing if those behave any differently -although ultimately they use the same components, they just provide a clean framework for implementation. Unless you've done something wrong it wouldn't be a magic bullet.
@brittle jolt I get the feeling you're a very helpful person
I like the name 
I help those in need. (But only according to my judgement and if I feel like it, no legal liabilty) :^)
is anyone else having trouble with publishing a character?
because when i publish it doesnt let me it just pixelizes the publishing screen
The video player can't handle URLs that have file names with spaces, even if it's been URL encoded to %20 or otherwise
That may explain your inconsistencies
Also I hear YouTube URLs are currently broken because of a YouTube site update? Not sure if it's fixed yet
Does anyone wanna play VRChat with me?
anyone else constantly getting sent back to their homeworld rn?
So did I hear correctly that Youtube players work if you are the host of a world's instance?
Yes?
I'm needing to review for a Trig final, and I would like to do it in VRchat Using youtube and VR Pens to practice....while dancing of course
Should work as long as your windows 10
People today have been seeming to have issues with the video player though, I cannot confirm if thats an issue everyone has or just some
Awesome. Thanks.
Ok. Well at least I know it has a chance first. I have never been able to use one, but someone told me I had to be the host and I never tried that.
Yes you do for most worlds
makes no difference as to whether or not it will work if you're host. on most maps host just means you can input the links and play what you want to play for everyone else, everyone still sees the video though.
but yeah video players/youtube might still be broken atm
I guess I have OVRdrop as an option too if all else fails, but it would be nice to have that free.
Still doing practice problems with VR pens sounds a whole lot nicer than staring at my laptop and the same table I have been burnt out at.
anyone have the Ugandan shiba favorited so i can fav too?
not even sure what that is
I don't think there is a Ugandan Shiba I know of that exists
by default the video player components only accept urls from the "owner" of the video player, which defaults to the room host. map author has to set it up such that whoever enters a url takes ownership of the video player. common prefab video players such as iwasync and jetdoggs do this but some people who set it up themselves from scratch may not have it set up that way and is room host only.
Bit of an odd question but... does anybody know the minimum name length before it was set to 4 characters?
Interesting bit of trivia. - I'm not sure.
I assume it would be one, although don't bet on my accuracy on that.
coool i just editted my avatar for 3rd person view in windows mode 😃
Done via avatar, without client modification? (Otherwise that might be harmless, but hushhush)
ya in the avatar camera
Cool effect. 😄 - I've seen video at a point; assumed it was either by-client or by moving viewpoint.
now i can watch my little characters walk around and emote without standing in the mirror 😃
might even help me with my oculus too, cause moving makes me motion sick without a big point of center focus
That's unfortunate. I hope it does. 😃
Have you tried the alternative movement mode in the settings? Name's escaping me.
Is anyone else having a problem with the game not letting them open their quick menu?
Quiero suicidarme
I am looking for any avatars that does crazy stuff, like the loud music and makes your screen look like a club type of thing, if anyone has any one i can clone can you let me know? i don't know if this is the right place to ask, if it isn't let me know.
i am not asking to be able to use the avatars, just my friend found a guy with one and he gave it to her and want to have one of my own to have on me.
@vocal shard so your looking for a cool avatar to clone off of somebody with cool effect's and stuff?
@quaint peak yes, won't let anyone else clone it either unless given permission to either
@vocal shard dm if you want
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I know im stupid for asking but do i need VR to play this?
I dont have a VR yet thats why
@half reef Nope you can play in desktop mode
oh cool. Thanks ima download the game later then play
Is there a good prediction on how the quest will handle VRChat? I’ve got high hopes, but honestly my MasterCam Computer can barely handle it.
nothing yet
Its more or less going to be its own place/community.
There will be some crossplay but its pc 'downgrading' to quest standers.
We know some limits but as we are unable to properly test it (no quests to test with) we cant say how well it will run.
But the avatars will for sure be more limited atleast
Does that mean Quest users will be restricted to certain worlds and avatars, or that it’ll just be harder to run it in certain situations?
The first.
Its a andriod version of the game. It cant even render the things we people on PC use
So everything has to be specially uploaded for the quest.
Gotcha. Thanks!
hmm... blender's doing a good job cooking my laptop's cpu...
hi
oooh noice!
How much work would go into running VRChat on linux?
Id expect a fair bit with the systems Vrchat uses
Aww, I'm too lazy for that then
Anyone know why my gestures that I made on an avatar don’t work for me but when someone clones it it works for them
@vocal shard might want to turn dynamic limits off probably
its in the safety settings > performance
I tried that its off
Any way to improve vr chat ping? Like port forwarding etc?
if your pc is using WiFi try using a direct cable instead
Cable or wifi. There's this weird issue, when I load into a world, my connection just starts dying
Someone else seem to have a similar issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/VRchat/comments/8ksk4x/help_extreme_connection_issues_whenever_i_play/
It's exactly that ^
VRchat is under heavy load/actual network attacks at pretty much all times so it might not be your end
Ye doesn't seems to be my connection, I've contacted my ISP multiple times regarding this as well. Been happening since the last week or so
you live in the US? or europe? or somewhere else
I'm from Pakistan. I do get a higher average ping, 300ms. However, this has never been an issue before
Now it's just 2000, 3000, then drops for a split second
that sounds rough
i wish they offered different server locations for different users
especially because everything is instanced...
just imagine! servers in pakistan! 😃
I'm in US with good Internet and strong computer and I still get problems all the time with worlds/friends/avatar lists not loading and some worlds or friends being totally inaccessible. I think it's just the main servers having trouble.
Not happening
anybody knows where i can find the hoppou avatar dressed as clown?
And server issues do sound about right, but it's just really weird
Like my ping is 300ms when I login. Then a join a world with people, the first 30 seconds it's normal. Then bam, the whole thing just starts dying
A week ago I was able to play just fine, without these issues
180 ping here
I've been playing this game for quite a while, and I can live with 300. Just not constant spikes to 3000
had 10k ping already because well.. but normal its around 180-250
network attacks happen fairly regularly. some jerks don't like VRchat for whatever reason so almost once a week there's major lag for everyone while they flood the servers
My friends, or any of the people I've been seeing, have had these issues
Flooding the servers would surely affect at least some of them?
Also at times, it seems like turning on maximum safety settings seems to fix the ping? (Can't confirm though)
well textures with 520mb size exist.
I think I might've fixed it
Very weird fix, but limiting the upload speed on VR Chat specific, to a little bit less than the my max upload, fixed the ping
And now I'm not getting any spikes at all
I looked at cache files to profile the performance of a world
And a 40MB file turned out to be an avatar... You don't need a gun with a 4k texture and 5 4k maps for the shader. Your vive won't render half the pixels unless you poke your eye with it.
im trying to optimize my avas already, just the bones make it poor
We need friggin' Optimization Police
There won't be enough
The VRCOP
V R Chat Optimization Police
Opti Gang Bois
Avatar so unoptimized even Stadia stutters
when you see 18 material avatars that can be reduced to two :<
90% of avatars in this game (thats including the "gang/crasher" avatars) can be reduced to 3 or 4 draw calls total
well not rly
if your avatar has tons of guns and stuff soo.. and yea people wont do that because oh no i need to edit the materials outside unity then+
If people would plan their avatar out ahead things can fit to 10 materials and less, the problem is the usage of different shaders for everything they can think of.
Ye
What's funny is that all these edge lord's wanna look scary, but having thing's so unoptimised sorta makes me laugh a bit.
Fear doesn't work that way if they are tryna spook people. Have an avatar that is excelent performance and then I will at least consider someone know's a thing or two lol.
It's understandable though if the avatar is still being messed about with though. My usual mindset is bascially to keep it unatlased untill i feel the layout is good.
the funny part is that you actually can reduce draw calls for both meshes and materials (depending on the situation) for guns and other avatar tools
@small wing you know where the clown hoppou avatar is by any chance?
if you need it to pop in your hands, turn it into a shape key in blender
Ye
im trying to learn how asap when exams finish
Or use final ik
You can keep the same game object for an animation override which mean's there isn't going to be much of a "pop in" when moving stuff around.
Which can help a bit, not a ton but a little.
@desert stratus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caGipKJDz_c
Doesn't show thumbnail, but here's the video
ooo shit? thank u!
@tidal onyx It's not public, my friend made it.
it is
Then you have to ask him.
ive seen multiple people using it but i cant find it
its the hoppou with the eyetracking shader
does he has a world?
With bread in the mouth?
no
Then yeah, I don't know.
its a hoppou dressed up as clown and the head follows you always
🙄 💦
already have the eye tracking shader just with a bit higher render queue heh
🤔

you see it through walls.
Hello
i already have a hoppou uploaded with that shader and its public just not that scary
Yeah, dunno where to get the model sorry. 😦
Could pull an exorcist though and final IK the limbs so it walks upside down on all fours though if you want creepy
i have final ik and already used it xD
but i want to make a more stalking avatar, that feature could be added tho
the problem is i suck at making avatars creepy like adding blood
i thought also about a spoopy derp but ya
Gotta study AAA horror games that do it well
And your comedy is all in peace there, I'm from Brazil, I'm the tonin
Its all about gluing things together with audio and visual flow
well i already wanted to upload a few horror maps to VRChat but well lets say the colliders dont work how they should
Do it. Ive been waiting for something like that.
Last horror map that i ever really enjoyed was made by vanilis
long time ago
i planned to upload EYES but it doesnt work like it should xD
YO
That would actually be dope af
And if you can get it looking 100% like the original too
like i said the colliders are bound to animations
thats easy just the colliders are set shitty.. so if i would remove the doors you still couldnt pass them
im not gonna add them myself to like 500 walls
Ah, then you don't live for the struggle like I do. 😉
I do that stuff all the time, it sucks but it's dooable.
Gotta force though it even if it sucks
- i dont have all scripts + idk how to make things move like doors and all
in the end you can say you did it. and the limitations you face are only going to make you even more excited knowing nobody else will dare try.
Npc's are easy, bake a navmesh and use VRCToybox. Door's use configurable joints
It's just limitations
Don't animate what you don't have to.
i used 50 hours on a map and rip since my pc was resetted so im not going to make big worlds again
My npcs require more scripting
VRChat just answered ah your problem you should have make a save bla bla
they could atleast send me the Unitypackage but no, well
They don't have that many people that can access the server's. So it makes sense.
And even then so, identity theft.
Someone can simply use a similar email to your's and that is bad enough. They gotta be super safe about it and tell peeps to back up.
well like i said rip 50 hours not gonna rebuild, also the world has over 10k visits and it was popular back then, people asked me to keep it updated, well
i mean i wrote with the email i have my VRChat Account
i could try get the eyes map back but like i said its over 80MB and glitchy as hell
i had to animate every single door xD
The doors don't have the same animation?
It's gonna eat at you till you eventually get it done. Which is a good thing, but also not.
It's what happens to me a lot too. I just remade 2 of my old maps.
i did the whole Baldi Map in VRChat but Eyes is a next lvl
Could do a pokemon 3D map but have it be one of those creepypasta games xD
I wonder what Udon will allow us to work with. I just want more freedom with AI scripting.
In hindsight, a lot.
Will it be scary when it drops? Hell yeah.
Lot's of new things to do / learn, and barely 15% of people on the platform will know how to properly use it lol.
I can say this because Iv'e seen it enough with vrc triggers with my friends. It took them a while to learn.
Hopefully they put out tutorial video's when it drops. I would assume they might have some pre prepped.
I'm excited though
Also hope they have a warning system for conflicting nodes.
As long as your scripts aren't looping, you're good.
If your scripts are lagging the game, something is calling a lot.
I assume you can set intervals?
Well let's hope Udon is similar.
Playmaker is what they're trying to build and surpass
I hope they can make a better Video sync with it lol
For some reason mine keeps shuttin off when people join
Not sure what that is.
Single player campaign
For ex: lolis defending a zone against waves of ugandans

Oooo that could be fun for the memes
A short cutscene of the lolis getting ready for battle, next gameplay.
Then I'd do losing cutscene and winning cutscene
Sound's pretty easy to work with.
Im currently working on something smaller, I'd then tackle that project next.
I'm just waiting for Udon so I don't have to script with Playmaker and publish outside vrchat
https://i.imgur.com/KMGQHDM.jpg @small wing do you think its worth to fix all the shiet? xD
@tidal onyx Yeah
That's not bad, try spending 4 week's every day for 12 hours on a project lol
like i said the colliders confuse me even if i remove the doors it still wont let me pass
Using mesh colliders?
it uses box colliders
even if i remove the complete door and everything under it it still wont let me pass
You have a box collider hidden in your hierarchy, maybe
Scale the map up more, the player capsule is actually bigger than you
And also what Doc says. Could be a hidden collider.
Do you have any mesh collider's in there at all?
I would go through all of them and double check to make sure any of them are scaled wrong
every single block wall decorations has a box collider
I'd first find the box collider that is causing the problem
Also if you are using collider's on different layers for any reason ,check those too.
i remove the door with it and sitll i cant pass even if i use the smallest model i got
Make a particle that you can shoot to collide with stuff in the map
use that to check
I gotta hop out for a shower, good luck!
Oh and also
I'd go in the editor and select everything, it should show the colliders wireframe
There is a prefab that lets you test your map inside the unity editor
It's super useful when making maps like that
which
Just lookup VRCPrefabs on twitter and they have it on the google form. Super useful when i was making my spherical mirror world.
It let's you use VRC triggers in the unity editor to test
I also have a prefab on there for stereo sounds on avatars 😉
Trying to get people on it, sick of hearing phase cancelation with mono avatar sounds.
@errant vault @tidal onyx It was nice talking with you guys! Good luck on your stuff, I can't wait to see what comes from it. Always inspiring to hear from other content creators in here.
👋
it wont because literally theres no collider there but still doesnt let me pass and im too stupid for that lol
You must check each collider in order to find the problem. I have a feeling your world has many colliders.
It can be tedious.
i found it, you need to jump to go through it.. tho i cant see it in the way
ok im done with my knowledge to fix my VR Chat (no VR mode)
i cant find any solution for my problem in the internet
i've did every single thing in this channel #vrchat-support
like idk what to do thats why im gonna type my problem here and hope that somebody knopws how to fix it
first of my pc spec
Mainboard: MSI Z390-A PRO
CPU: Intel i7 8700K
GPU: GeForce RTX 2070
RAM: 16GB
SSD: 1 TB
whenever i start my game it loads up and then the whole game freeze for 30 - 60 sec
then i get to click ok and it puts me in my house ...
i open up the menu and want to join a world... i click join... nothing happens (sometimes the world list is empty and i dont see nothing)
lets say i get to click and game starts loading again...
i freezes again and i have to wait.. after that freeze i klick ok... the world loads again.. i click ok..
iim in the world... game freeze.. it kicks me out... loads up the house where i spawn at the begining..
i dont even see my friends sometimes... and if i see them i cant join them or they are stil in a instance whats long time ago....
I am free to talk and share my screen to demonstrate it if you dont understand what i typed up there :)
(sorry for my bad english im bad at typing but great at talking xD)
PLease help me somebody :)<3
@rustic ore Have you tried restarting your router or using a vpn
As well as have you contacted support like listed in the bottom of #vrchat-support ?
@covert linden oh shit not with the vpn and not with the support 😦 my bad but the part with the vpn sounds very complicated
and support i will try that one in a bit
thank you
Vrchat in VR runs at 33 fps in vrc home while alone on an excellent avatar unless I make the window as small as possible then it runs af 90. Please give an option to not mirror the game to desktop at all it is very taxing on a gtx 970
Wait, the mirror view effects FPS? I thought those were supposed to work in a way that didn't effect performance. '-'
i just shrink it lol
if u hold shift while starting th e game you can also fuck with unity start options
window small
now you can run vrchat at... 45fps!
Pretty much every VR game ever forces and locks mirror on. If it was a performance factor, I'd have assumed that no games would use it.
half of 90. great!
vrc dev stream tonight ?
Yes
It VERY MUCH effects performance as it’s not the same render. It’s an entirely new view
And yes any game with a locked mirror is killing fps
Based on a quick google I've found these bits that seem relevant.
https://gyazo.com/5096b6205fefc6566ccf197450a1f4fc
Not notable on decent PCs but minimum spec for vr is a 970 gtx and it seriously kills fps on it
The first part is as I understood it to work. However the second comment seems fairly confident that Unity handles it differently to the default Steam-VR window.
Well I'm running a GTX960, so I'd be in an even worse situation. xD
Makes sense my only two experiences are beat saber and vrchat, both do it
Both unity
I'll definitely have to try it out either way. Seems incredibly relevant to me. Just surprised I'd never heard anyone mention this before.
Blade & Sorcery is another I'd enjoy an FPS boost on. Also Unity.
Minimizing oddly enough does not help only making it smaller
Gotta dash now though. Catch ye laters.
Fullscreen minimized lags all the same
Thankfully the game remembers render resolution so you don’t need to do it every time
Does anyone know anything about the user Sasa!, they been in the same old hub instance for over a month now, The Old Hub #1
LOL
world record for longest vrchat session?
Good question.
Someone's probably stayed logged longer at some point?
VRChat isn't so big, though. Who knows?
@proper adder I know SaSa! They hang around a discord I'm in quite often
Quite the character
Why are they in the same instance nonstop lol
Like ita became an attraction, we bring groups with us to see them
Lol how have they managed to not DC
hi
They probably just log back in. Vr chat has updated a bit you wouldn’t be able to see him if he wasn’t updating his client
Though you technically don’t need to log out to update your client
If you use another client to multilog
Is it still a banable offense if i want to upload a Model i made for a friend on his account?
wanna be on the save side for both of us
You wont be banned for it, but youre generally not suppose to. Thing is if your friend gets banned for any reason, it'll match your IP, and you will also be banned. vise versa
Yikes
Just use Teamviewer
If you say it's your friend then go for it, it shows them what you are doing too so they learn.
And then its all on their end.
Good idea.
The thing is he doesnt have anything on his new PC Unity OR Blender whise and i dont know how to ease him trough it since i dont remember wich Unity is needed anymore
2017.4.15f
*2017.4.15f1
Through unity hub.
If you use unity hub then it makes it easier for when they want to build for quest.
the f1 makes no difference
Just being safe. 😛
because thats the only build of it you can get when going through the vrc website :D
Guys
How do i add a mesh to an existing avatar
;~;
example i wanna edit kirbys head onto jonesy fortnite
Is additional identifying information logged to the avatar on upload?
I've never checked around that.
Could end up being fine uploading via VPN if you don't want to jump through hoops.
Fortnite
@coarse anchor You can also use unity's cloud upload feature so that your friend's email address linked to the Unity account shares the files. That way you can transfer it faster.
Fair approach, yeah
Also don't forget to make sure futureproofing is disabled. Not sure if it is on by default anymore, but it will bloat your upload a lot.
*Depending on what is in the project that is..
If there isn't anything in there though, i would say disable it still. Future proofing is best for when the avatar is meant to be public as if it isn't meant for public, there have been cases where stuff was stolen afaik.
Man HP Reverb would be the perfect headset if it used Lighthouse tracking instead of WMR
Wish the LG SteamVR headset didn't get cancelled
Well, I'm pretty sure it was cancelled
Just to have another option in the ecosystem
is anyone else getting a bug when you join a world and you get desynced from everyone else, and for everyone you are stood in one spot, but on your screen your moving like normal????
its really starting to get annoying
I got that many versions back in murder world. People would accuse me of cheating because I’d be a floating knife that could not be shot
Like.. Throwavle dice?
@elfin cloak Can you post in the appropriate channel pls ?
oof
Oof
Wtf Can i get a staff? I just got banned for creating crash avatars but i havent even made a avatar!
Please send a mail explaining your sittuation to Moderation@VRChat.com
No official Support is done trough Discord. 
very comfy
Have you ever given your password out to another user?
If so they can upload things to your account or simply get banned and you’ll be considered their alt
It's almost like account sharing is a terrible idea and there's no justification for doing it.
almost
at least to strangers
I’ve got my own thanks
fine, d i d n ' t w a n t y o u t o h a v e t h e m a n y w a y
Well, i got a avatar from a friend i just uploaded it
Didnt even use it and got banned as soon as i loaded in
What exactly does the ban msg say when you try loading into the game/website
any one else getting friends unfriended randomly?
Check if they are also unfriended on the website or just the client
Friends tab does not always show all friends . Just because they do not show does not mean they are unfriended
Did we ever get non-polling menu updates or is that still in the works?
should I get on vr or rest
after a 5 minutes though vrc said in friends social tab that that we were friends again so idk
weird stuff
Advertiding is forbidden it aint rude
And trying to ping over 70k people with that message is not rude? 
Its still a kind of advertisment and you wanted to ping the whole server for that too.
Regardless, no further discussion / dramatising about it.
Bye cutie
Yeah that's always the weird part using the discord app it seems to instantly remove deleted stuff. 😄
Well.. Is deleted right? If it were still visible it wouldn't be deleted. :p
Of course, it just makes the conversation around it make no sense. Just a funny side-effect.
are we still having problems with publishing avatars?
@umbral reef I get banned for creating crash avatars
So I was thinking about changing my VRChat username and I had the confirmation stuff in and I decided against it at last minute but then family member pushed me into the keyboard and clicked confirm would it be possible to get that reverted
You can try emailing the staff team on support@vrchat.com and explain the situation.
did they fix publishing avatars?
Its the only way to get official contact with the team and the only place you might be able to resolve it
because when i try to it just breaks it and doesnt let me type or press upload
thats not a server issue then
Check for red errors in your console SSJ2
k
reupload sdk make sure there arent multiple copies and yeah check for red errors
oh
yeah I tend to do that sometimes I just wanted to know if I could get it reverted back to being Eiskaffee
i realized what i did wrong
i just loaded the project and its a prefab now zzzz
wait no.
it just did it zzz idk
api avatar not found?
odd
what might cause that
wait
it says request finished with error?
only red i can find
k sec
wait ima deal with this later im getting distracted zzz
okie
just gonna ask this here but how long until we can upload avatars onto vrchat
when i try to upload it says i should wait until my account is approved but uh idk how long that will be xd
play the game
enough where ur rank is new player?
or something but not on steam and u cant be a visitor
Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a not time based trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord, a rough estimate would be ** 20-40 hours**, but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a steam or oculus account because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
404 not found on that page @ruby needle
uh 
lmao
The copy paste gets more and more outlines and bold every time you post it
it hasn't changed since months 
Soon we can just fully underline it, make it tilted and bold 👀
Oof, time to update the Pasta again
Found the working link: http://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/27-why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet/
this pastas cold, gotta put it in the microwave
Reheated pasta isn't as good
This does perfectly fit into my month old comment by now how they never update the community on the support pages 👀
Hey there! Does anyone here know the discord name of L4uR (the dood that created the Nurburgring Nordschleife world)?
It only took me about 9 hours to become a new user.
8 if I pull the Steam Pre-Merge time
I just published avatar world on community lab! Since I'm really noob on blender and unity, feedback is always welcome! pls visit my world "Mimyohan Ukon" !
In a year I accept it to be entirely underlined with some words all caps instead
What about bolt and italic?
not sure if I want an index. Decided to reserve one anyway. I’m sure by August there will be user reviews, right?
posted in public lobby .
Has anyone had an issue in desktop mode using shift and f keys not triggering gestures?
e
hey
hi
whast up?
shift and f keys not working in desktop
for me teh work but custom anims wont as gestures
Hey
hiya
@slate verge @queen mango ugandan shiba is a public avatar by pikapete. but you can only get it if someone is wearing it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tooF_pwEl_I&t=221s
think of what?
The ping?
By the way, the avatar in that vid isn't what I use.
i was replying to your comments about the ava (corrected the sentence)
avi is not a shortcut for avatar 
it is with my normal social platform
the short term for avatar is ava, its been like that since the first day of WOW and proapbly even earlier
Cus its not Aviatar.

i spelled it wrong in the spur of the moment, so sue me XD

cuz people like to try to vocalize stenography XD
yeah its usually not shorted, but if for what ever reason you want to, ava is what to use
Can vrchat stop being so laggy now plsNthx
😮
some guy was getting a promotion from ron and he could've gotten anything
but he had only 10 seconds to answer
Hello
Anyone know any good avatar worlds with flying or speed abilities?
hey guys, i need sum help fixing a model rq just some pointers and someone to maybe walk me through how to actually fix this damn thing.
idk
i m having problems too but im too lazy to fix cause past 3 days straight ive been trying
lol
the dude who fucking rigged this thing did it fairly poorly
so i borrowed it off him and im trying to fix the bones and found that he has a neck bone in the head bone and the chest bone inside the headbone
any time i put this rig into unity the bones get all fucked
better show him this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKAg2oIEu9w
lmao
how much of the rig did you do yourself?
in the FBX, are the bones all properly named and structured?
mine werent before now they are lol xd and yet its still somehow broken
api avatar not found
request finished with error
and i have 0 idea why its happening
if you somehow saved bad changes while Maya(or Motionbuilder) was connected to Unity, you probably corrupted your rig
in that case, reimport it
ok
i've done that plenty of times
rip my dynamic bones
dynamic bones aren't that hard
when i have liek
it's just drag and drop
Thats a lot of dynb
yeah that is
but still, it is drag and drop for the Dynamic Bone script
Pinged everyone and talked about Live stream- and never pinged about the delay : VRChat
nope
@sick rapids #announcements before yoi talk
Theres a ping right below it you can see
they didn't ping. I think there's little person who check announcement every day.
because this has never happened to me before
They did. Right below the actual thing, which was before the event was suppose to occur
does your model have an avatar descriptor?
yes
they pinged about the server maintenance. and the delay was announced two days ago in Twitter.
jts sdk
if you are talking about the ping which was in 1 hour before livestream- it's not a proper announcement
the delay is disappointing, I was hoping for inspiration this week with the udon preview
any the seven deadly sins avatar worldS?
i deleted my character and it has the little hit box and yet it still makes the upload button adn such pixelated
Did you cancel your night plans or something for it? Like they did ping right below and its not a big deal
I said this because they decided the delay two days ago.
does anybody know any seven deadly sins avatar worlds than please tell me thankz u
I think that if they pinged livestream, they had to ping about the delay too. that's all.
anyway I was and am looking foward to seeing stream and hope there's new information about udon. I wish we get updates soon.
hi
hello
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