vrchat-general-2

[vocal shard]

[modern oar]

Patience is a virtue

[grand sinew]

Still down lol

[burnt cliff]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 2759 users in VRChat currently

[grand sinew]

Well not for me I have that infinite loading thing now, can’t get in

[modern oar]

They're working on it

So you'd best wait.

[quartz osprey]

For the moment a VPN like betternet is the best solution to go into vrchat

[stable pilot]

I.. I logged in once yesterday and..
https://gyazo.com/1438f341a70c25ab4919e6527703a319

[analog peak]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 2778 users in VRChat currently

[stable pilot]

[quartz osprey]

use it for an hour or 2 and afterwards it should be resolved for you

[slate verge]

somethings telling me that some regions may be working and some regions may not be working

[grand sinew]

It was fine Monday morning before I had to go to the hospital, now it’s broke lol

[knotty stag]

vrchat works fine for me, just tryin the desktop version

[vocal shard]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 2737 users in VRChat currently

[vocal shard]

that went down a lot in like 10 mins

[thorny lagoon]

bummer, was looking forward to today's vrc

[cunning cradle]

using betternet solved the issue for me, though im getting 300+ ping it doesn't really matter much tbh

[tough sorrel]

oof what's wrong

[mighty zenith]

when the hell are thay going to fix vrc?

[cunning cradle]

they're actively fixing it

[cosmic sail]

well drinking night is ruined , well in vrchat at least i guess

[queen mango]

They've already fixed the Cloudflare issue. The trouble still remains with the users who were blacklisted before the fix rolled out

[knotty stag]

WELL!! the destkop version feels so wrong x3

[queen mango]

How come?

[cosmic sail]

wait what ?

[mighty zenith]

plz explane

[knotty stag]

i am so used to VR, so not being able to move the arms is strange

first time tried the desktop version

[vital rune]

funny

since I got IP-blacklisted today

[mighty zenith]

so how are thay going to fix the hole blacklisted thing then?

[knotty stag]

bandaid

[slate verge]

i was told that resetting your modem could help you jump back on vrc if you are blacklisted. Like literally reset and restart the modem.

[cosmic sail]

ohhh i did that but nothing happen on my end

[slate verge]

awww i'm sorry to hear, i never got blacklisted so idk what to say. I logged in just fine in and out the whole day and yesterday.

[rigid quartz]

Need to leave it off for about 20 minutes

[cosmic sail]

ok lets do that then and see how it goes

[rigid quartz]

So itll either A. Renew your IP or B. Purge your IP from CF

[slate verge]

^^ yeah that i was told it will do that.

[rotund jacinth]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 2766 users in VRChat currently

[mighty zenith]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 2743 users in VRChat currently

[brisk umbra]

#bottalk if your going to use the command

[vocal shard]

hello

[slate verge]

hello

[vocal shard]

I would suggest not trying to do a fix and wait patient till vrc patches out a fix for it they are aware and working on it

Can I get some opinions on a model idea I had? I can't decide what skirt color i like better... shoot me a pm or something and I'll show you the art. Idk if I should post it here

[primal fable]

No ok my problem is that, I'm whitelisted again by honeypot 'n all. But I still get the recaptchas :l

God I can't even get to my work website now because of this 👎

[hard fiber]

[primal fable]

Even my own work :L like damn dude

[vital rune]

how can you even be so sure if you're whitelisted

[hard fiber]

Becsuse you fill in a form to be whitelisted

[vital rune]

wha?

[primal fable]

Yeah and it says my IP is whitelisted 🤔

[vital rune]

fill a form?

[hard fiber]

Don't worry about it, it obviously doesn't work

[primal fable]

Well. I think it did work but maybe I have to fill in recaptchas for the websites I haven't visited yet, Perhaps idk It's always worth it to try right ?

Ok, From what I've read, Whitelisting on Honeypot won't work since it says that cloudflare has it's own "blacklisting" System.
:
"Cloudflare has its own IP reputation system,
as well as using data from various other IP reputation networks.
Unless it shows as blacklisted/bad on Honeypot,
whitelisting it there won’t do anything."

So I guess all we can do is really .. Wait till this is over. 😃

[lucid garden]

well that's fun

[vital rune]

man if only I didn't launch VRC today

[primal fable]

Or, Ofcourse get a VPN. But those are quite expensive. And you can get banned from the bad ones.

[mighty zenith]

and how long can that take?

[vital rune]

this incident broke the camel's back and made me not trust the devs anymore

[primal fable]

It's also from yesterday and the day before yesterday 😃

@mighty zenith The whitelist can take up to 2 weeks.

[mighty zenith]

2WEEKS you got be kiting me

[primal fable]

And yeah, I have the same, Not playing VRC after a new update anymore. atleast for a little while.
;P I can't even start a game of league without a VPN right now.
Most of the online games work with cloudflare anyways, so those are unusable too.

[vital rune]

I'll just assume they dragged this to increase the damage further THEN announce it

A+ communication skills

[nocturne tundra]

who wants another connor skin that screams: 28 STAB WOUNDS

[primal fable]

I feel like they should've just turned off the servers for VRC for a little while. to decrease the damage or atleast not make it worse.
Instead of trying to get a fix while the servers where still open, claiming even more victims. That was completely unnecesery in my opinion.
Since most people aren't even in this server. (I only joined yesterday too)

[vital rune]

but nope, they did the absolute worst choice

[primal fable]

I mean everyone makes bad decisions sometimes Right ? 😃 It happens. All we can do is wait now. and hope It'll fix itself.
Since cloudflare can't whitelist everyone/everything from the last 72 hours. So I get that too.
But yeah better communicationskills would've been nice.

[mighty zenith]

Not funny Neptune

[vital rune]

but this is beyond bad decisions

have almost everyone's IP not just fucked in VRC but anywhere else

[vocal shard]

is this affecting me on other websites as well?

[lucid garden]

yes

[vital rune]

yes, including other online games that use Cloudflare

[primal fable]

Well they have the favor of stil lbeing in a "Beta" So stuff like this is "Allowed" to happen.

And yeah it is affecting you on most of your daily stuff @vocal shard

[vital rune]

the "beta excuse"

that doesn't buy me anymore

[rigid quartz]

You do k ow what those honeypot sites are right? Nothing more than a site explained that a IP is spamming/botnet/malicious through info of word of mouth or IPs hitting said honeypot

[primal fable]

We can do other stuff now tho, Like ehm .. Filling in Recaptcha puzzles all day,
or ehm Swipe tinder. After you've done 12 recaptchas, or go outside to look at trees, When you unlock your door with a recaptcha.

and yeah @rigid quartz But it's always worth a try right ?

Since people who tried to log in, were flagged as "Bots" anyways 😛

[rigid quartz]

Cloudflare doesn't go by their "whitelisting" it's just a auto blacklist when you hit a number of requests in a short time span.

[still halo]

I got hit with this too. Gonna contact my ISP tomorrow and hopefully get issued a new IP address. That is the only thing that will immediately remedy this issue, beside a VPN. But I don’t trust streaming over a VPN.

[primal fable]

Yeah I feel you @still halo
Most new IP's Cost money you know.
So maybe it'll be free for you. but for most people it isn't an option

[rigid quartz]

Been hearing CF purges the IP list often I would just shut down the router for 20 minutes so you dont send or receive anything and see if it works out.

[limber nymph]

vrc still down?

[primal fable]

That doesn't work for Most people @rigid quartz especially since most people live at home with their parents.

and try not to log into VRChat while this issue occurs, I think they kinda fixed it but it's still tricky

[vital rune]

still wouldn't buy that they "fixed it"

[still halo]

Everyone has dynamic IPs unless you pay for a static one. The shutdown the modem trick works sometimes because during that time another customer on your ISP takes your old IP. So when you boot back up you get issued a new dynamic IP. But it’s not always a sure tactic as you might just get reissued your old IP.

[rigid quartz]

My dude it wouldnt mater if you have static ip or other side it would be CF side

[vital rune]

besides, all what remains of my optimism is basically gone at this very day

[primal fable]

@rigid quartz what I'm trying to say is, those people aren't the only ones in the household and can't just afford to turn it off for 20 minutes since there is other people living there too 😃

[rigid quartz]

Yeah you are right I have to remember utd not 5am for everyone right now lol

But even hen the rest of the house will suffer the captchas on CF protected sites

[primal fable]

True, My mum and me can't even access our work right now, Since it's just blocked by recaptchas 😛
But I can't leave home either and I need my wifi for the parcels that will arrive any minute now 😛

[ruby needle]

Solve the captchas and then you can access the stuff. Ain't a block.

[rigid quartz]

I guess you just need to weight your options suffer the captchas for a while or stop sending /recieving data for a bit to you dont trip another captcha and restart the cooldown

[ruby needle]

With normal manual usage you can not set up a flag.

[hybrid venture]

It really does affect other sites as well.. crap..
I have a meeting for this afternoon.. but can't access the site..

[ruby needle]

Unless something else is bad.

[primal fable]

@ruby needle I can't since it's stuck on the recatcha over and over again 😃

[ruby needle]

Y.... You're a robot?

[primal fable]

///w/// I might indentify as it !!!
No but for real. I'm not 😦

[vital rune]

and online games. God I didn't know the devs can summon a webwide catastrophe

[rigid quartz]

Eeegggeegguurrrguurr does not compute

[vocal shard]

what if you got stuck in vrchat

[golden cedar]

So if i have captchas im blacklisted right?

[vocal shard]

vrchat art online

[primal fable]

Beep..Beep
I mean .. well ..
Boop..

and yeah you do @golden cedar

[rigid quartz]

Mist likely my dude

[golden cedar]

I shut off my router for about 15 mins rn

[rigid quartz]

Yup what do you have to lose but your sanity

[thorny lagoon]

anyone who had problems with loading able to get in now?

[golden cedar]

I really hope my shit gets fixed

[vocal shard]

@thorny lagoon nope

[elfin cloak]

about captcha problem
here is the fix for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9by-3iY6lo

[thorny lagoon]

bummer 😦

[golden cedar]

If i have issues with this i have to call my isp and i really do not wanna do that

[vocal shard]

guys just use a vpn or look up a quick tutorial on how to change your ip

[primal fable]

Okay another update from my friend @hard fiber
"Nodflaemployees can't remove the captcha, the captcha is showing specifically because of secuirity settings the site owner has turned on. Cloud flare Employees

[hard fiber]

Cloudflare employee* my copy paste got fucked cuz I'm on phone

[primal fable]

x'D

[hard fiber]

So contacting cloudflare is useless :))))))

[analog peak]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 2766 users in VRChat currently

[vital rune]

the downward spiral

[analog peak]

gg

[grand storm]

is this the end of vrchat as we know it

[golden cedar]

No

[primal fable]

Perhaps, I don't think so tho. People will get over this most likely

[hard fiber]

I got freed from the captcha last night so I'm trying to figure out why I got released when none else did

[ruby needle]

Depends on how much you spammed the servers

[hard fiber]

I'm pretty sure the night before This happened I kept my vr running for hours

[golden cedar]

Same

[heavy bridge]

I only opened it for five minutes, so...

[vital rune]

I just got blacklisted WHILE on VRC

[primal fable]

Kidding ? @vital rune that's so garbage

[vital rune]

yes, while I was hanging out with my friends

[elfin cloak]

no it's not
but it could be
well...
it depends how much they pay cloudflare
because the more you pay them the eficient fix you will get from them
just take a look at that website and everything will be wary clear to you.

[vital rune]

it started to show up when 2 of them are red men and I cant access the portal

[golden cedar]

I got blacklisted while playing vrc too. I was in the box and every avatar wouldnt load. I restarted my game and then boom blacklisted

@vital rune basically what he had

[primal fable]

Oh damn, I got it 3 days ago in that evening :l

[vital rune]

and JUST NOW, the devs just announced they're working on it

[vocal shard]

so far a couple of vpn programs have worked

[vital rune]

we're just guinea pigs for them

[vocal shard]

spoofing your I.P is the only solution atm

[primal fable]

I use ProtonVPN right now, It works 😛

[ruby needle]

@vital rune you're playing a alpha game so there is always risk of things breaking :)

[golden cedar]

Im pretty sure its been 20 mins now

[stoic haven]

I was blacklisted but now I can use and enter the game without problem. 😃

[vital rune]

yea but they should've just announced it IMMEDIATELY when the shit hits the fan instead of waiting for 3 days straight just to increase the damage further

[rancid gust]

very epic ive been blacklisted and have been blacklisted on multiple sites

[primal fable]

That means you're fine now @stoic haven

And yeah they should've done that @vital rune

[stoic haven]

Yeah, I mean they are working on it. I was blacklisted yesterday and was lifted pretty fast too.

[rancid gust]

blacklisted like on vrc or did you also have a problem with multiple sites?

[stoic haven]

Cloudfare sites. So VRC and every other cloudfare platform.

[primal fable]

Everything that uses cloudflare @rancid gust

[ruby needle]

Cloudflare blacklist is always global

[rancid gust]

alright cool just making sure im not the only onne because ive only seen people talk about vrc

[golden cedar]

What sites are using cloudflare

[vocal shard]

So what is cloudflare anyway? @mira still new here :3

[stoic haven]

But pretty fast, when VRC announced they were doing a fix, I was lifted pretty fast.

[ruby needle]

Like 90% of the internet @golden cedar

[rancid gust]

let it be known i was just trying to log in for less than 30 seconds and my friend told me not to

still got beaned lol

[golden cedar]

Hopefully im unblocked

[vital rune]

what they're doing is not only showing very poor communication skills but having everyone kept in the dark of what is going on

just what is even going on their side

[golden cedar]

They didnt keep people in the dark for very long though @vocal shard

[stoic haven]

They seemed pretty fast to me. They were responding yesterday in chat about the issue.

[golden cedar]

They still told us about what was going on.

[stoic haven]

Announcement came later though once the issue was confirmed.

[primal fable]

@vocal shard Cloudflare basically takes care of all the spams, bots and that kind of stuff, hackers, you name it
Because of a mistake that VRC developers made. Alot of people are now blacklisted, Since they're seen as "Bots"
by cloudflare. There is no real fix for it right now so all we can do is wait. I hope this explains it.

[golden cedar]

Cant get mad about that. Respect that they even told you about it

[vital rune]

I know I'm sounding like a pesismistic fuck but what's left of my optimism of these guys are basically gone.

[golden cedar]

Im turning on my router to see if im purged

[stoic haven]

VRC does not control cloudfare. They can't stop the blacklist feature. It's a protective feature on that platform.

[golden cedar]

If not ill just fucking use my data

[vocal shard]

Ohhh that's a bummer @primal fable thanks

[primal fable]

@golden cedar you can always try to use a VPN 😃

[golden cedar]

@primal fable for how much?

[vocal shard]

hotspotshield or proton is free and no speed limiting

[golden cedar]

Ok

[primal fable]

I'll send you a link @golden cedar

[vocal shard]

other then that there are always new free ones popping up

[golden cedar]

@primal fable thanks

[vocal shard]

So if i use my data then i can play vrchat?

[primal fable]

Don't do that @vocal shard

It's not worth it, It uses up alot. It will only cost you more 😃

[heavy bridge]

Yep, but you might then trigger the bot flag on your mobile internet instead. (Assuming data isn't a problem)

[vocal shard]

Ohh okay then sad crying sob sob

[grand zealot]

Is the game still a mess right now?

[solid dagger]

wait, so it looked like on twitter they had fixed the issue, is it safe to play VRC right now? will I get blacklisted if I get on?

[heavy bridge]

ye (It's still a mess)

[vital rune]

don't trust them 100%

[primal fable]

Yeah it really is still a mess, Just be safe rather than sorry. and don't start it for now.

[grand zealot]

Unlucky

[golden cedar]

Just restarted my router for 20mins

[vocal shard]

Still can't log in

[golden cedar]

Still have captchas

[vocal shard]

Restart the house 😃

had to reinstall it

[golden cedar]

@vocal shard lmao 4head

[vocal shard]

argh

[golden cedar]

I should restart myself as well maybe i have captchas

[slate verge]

am i really one of the lucky players to not have been black listed?

[grand sinew]

Guess reinstall doesn’t work

[vocal shard]

....

I got blacklisted 😦

Can't even see images on Twitch lol

[rancid gust]

yo which vpn is best im kinda leaning towards nord

[heavy bridge]

@grand sinew Reinstalls don't do anything; it's tied to your connection.

[primal fable]

Yeah it's the same for us all @vocal shard

[golden cedar]

@vocal shard same

[vocal shard]

Im going in boys

[fading flower]

is the weird bug still up?

[grand sinew]

Ok, well that’s a shame, but thank you

[vocal shard]

Using my VPN works but I have gigabit internet and it kinda neuters it.

The other "fix" for the issue is to have a dynamic IP and cycle your modem

[golden cedar]

Twitch is fixed for me now i can see images

[vocal shard]

still didnt get the vrc update lmao

[fading flower]

same

[golden cedar]

Cloudflare website seems to be the only one with captchas now

[vocal shard]

Yes i can play it

[rancid gust]

yeah thats what im kinda worried about using a vpn I have highspeed internet and i really hope it doesnt ruin it lol

[golden cedar]

Nvm i went to league of legends and got a captcha

[primal fable]

It doesn't 😃 @rancid gust

[grand sinew]

I keep hearing this cloudflare, what is it and how do I see if my provider of internet is on it?

[primal fable]

It's not your provider, It's what games and websites uses as protection @grand sinew

[golden cedar]

Im curious to try out vrchat again

[vernal creek]

VRCHAT works for you?

[golden cedar]

I totally doubt its gonna work though

[primal fable]

It does work but you can still get blacklisted while playing 🤦

That's what I've been trying to tell people but people won't listen at all xD

[vernal creek]

I can't log in

[vocal shard]

same

[grand sinew]

Shame they can’t just roll back whatever they did this morning to break it even more

[vocal shard]

yup its work for me

[primal fable]

They can't do a roleback for something that has already happened, because that might break it even more @grand sinew

[vocal shard]

i think half of the gamer is online rn

[fading flower]

how long could a patch to this bug take?

[vocal shard]

you can see my pic on the user supoort channel

[golden cedar]

Im just going to suffer more yikes

[fading flower]

imagine all the vrchat streamers

i wonder how they are fairing now

[rancid gust]

you're telling me dog

[queen mango]

You're not alone there

[vocal shard]

haha i know right

[queen mango]

OOF, chat moved on

[golden cedar]

Im addicted to vrchat

[vital rune]

yep, this is probably the worst mistake the devs have done so far

[brisk umbra]

just playing a different game while they fix it

[vocal shard]

is there like a voice channel in here?

[primal fable]

Not that I know of

You can always come to my server and VC with me and my friends @vocal shard ;>

[leaden hawk]

why cant i play vrchat

[knotty stag]

#announcements

[grand sinew]

Ok, must be effecting others most the comics I read online keep popping up asking if I’m a bot or not lol

[primal fable]

Yeah I feel ya @grand sinew I can't open my normal stuff either, No webtoons couldn't even open 9gag because of it 😦

[warped scaffold]

it broke my streamlabs alerts for my obs too, it really messed up everything for us didn't they? lmao

[rancid gust]

cloudflare is used by mostly everything

[primal fable]

Yeah it broke everything using cloudflare ;P

[vital rune]

remember kids, check if your web sockets are plugged in properly

[fading flower]

how long would this issue be up?

[solid dagger]

I'm a little bit frustrated that in the anouncements for this that I saw in the past when I was playing, the mentions of cloudflare made it seem like it was an issue that cloudflare was at fault for, and had no mention of the blacklisting, or that it was an error on VRC's part. I assumed it was a connection issue like what discord occasionally has with cloudflare.

[fading flower]

like when can we expect this to be over and done with

[solid dagger]

Frustrated that I had to be told this by a user, and was not informed in the announcements from the devs, even now.

[fading flower]

ye

[vital rune]

I'd assume VRC devs just launched a nuke against us

well what do you expect? A+ communication skills

[fossil ridge]

Been trying to in VRC all night and still nothing for me

[vital rune]

hilariously tho, Discord seems unaffected by the blacklist shite

[primal fable]

Yep :l

[tropic tundra]

Out of curiosity, for those who got blacklisted, did "not getting on any websites or anything for about an hour" work?

[primal fable]

What do you mean @tropic tundra

[warped scaffold]

I technically did that cuz I went and played something else for awhile, after I was done I hopped on and it worked, so that might be a thing that ppl could try ?

[tropic tundra]

Last night I was seeing people say "if you just stay off the web for about half an hour you'll be whitelisted again"

It didnt do anything on my end, that's why I'm wondering

[vocal shard]

failed to load

[hybrid shell]

Yeah, being at work didn't get my ip unflagged

[novel valve]

Is there any way to fix VR chat or do we just have to wait X expected amount of time?

[velvet quarry]

I recommend waiting for an announcement for now.

[novel valve]

But i wanna chat up traps in VR 💔

[tropic tundra]

Also, not sure the whole unplugging your router and replugging for a new ip works either

[umbral reef]

Chat up traps in the Vrchat discords then 😉

[queen mango]

Ye'r lookin at one

[still lark]

@umbral reef Eyy bby.

[umbral reef]

👀 I aint no trap so not hitting me up

[still lark]

:D

[granite seal]

does anybody know if they can send me a list of VRCHAT Team members and Active Chat Mods?

[velvet quarry]

What would you need that for?

[granite seal]

i just want to make sure so i know all the chat mods' names

in case 🎉

[velvet quarry]

In case of what?

[granite seal]

idk just so i know

[coral vessel]

Soundds sus lol

[granite seal]

yeet dont worry about it nvm

[solemn relic]

still can't get pass loading screen should i send a ticket in?

[velvet quarry]

There probably is no need to at the moment, it's a very widespread issue and they're aware of it.

[solemn relic]

or just vrchat down for west coast area

[coral vessel]

Big yikes

[vocal shard]

sans read #announcements

[burnt cliff]

Yeah, aware, and not willing to take the blame that they need to

[velvet quarry]

What blame are they avoiding?

[vocal shard]

does this cloudflare thing apply to australia because ive been playing vrchat a bunch today and it hasnt happened to me and I just saw a post about it on the reddit

[burnt cliff]

With the statements issued, they're putting the issue solely on cloudflare. When what happened was originally a fuck up from the vrc devs

[umbral reef]

@vocal shard Its world wide- Plenty have the problem but a fair bit have no problems at all.

[vocal shard]

thank god I don't have it, I'm usually unlucky as hell (I had to edit that into my post because I usually talk in like 50 different messages so I'm not used to slow mode)

[velvet quarry]

They've called them "Cloudflare issues", but not necessarily that it was cloudflare's fault, just that they're having some trouble with their systems as a result of VRChat's systems messing up.

[umbral reef]

Would be nice to have an official blogpost debunking some rumors and clearning things up.
For example the report of 'it takes two weeks to get cleared' is wrong. Unless you kept it up for hours and hours.

[velvet quarry]

Seeing as the exact same problem happened yesterday, and I know of no one that had any lasting issues due to it, I imagine it'll be the same for today's issues.

[coral vessel]

It would be lovely if they expand the dev team

[vocal shard]

I can't wait to get a VR headset for christmas. I just ported my first model to vrchat and it was so satisfying

[umbral reef]

There where Loads of reports though. But as expected, it took at best a few hours to clear up for most.
And chaning the IP/contacting cloudfare manually can help it resolve faster also.

[brisk umbra]

good thing i will be sleeping

[hard fiber]

Mine got fixed automatically without me really doing anything yesterday

[quasi gulch]

Still friends unable to get on

[hard fiber]

They might be slowly taking each IP down so I mean maybe

[upper heart]

Lol hey zenith, you too?

[winter igloo]

i want play vrchat 😢

[vocal shard]

UHOH

[solid dagger]

We are aware of the ongoing Cloudflare issues and are working with them to resolve. We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience. #VRChat```
This post does not indicate at all that the error was a result of an issue with VRC, when I first read this not knowing the full story, I assumed "it's just a connection issue like what cloudflare has often had in the past". I don't feel the tweet was very transparent about what was happening. It gives the wrong image to people who don't know what is going on.

I would view this as avoiding blame

[merry nymph]

Something broke

[velvet quarry]

I can see how it'd be interpreted as that, but I don't think they've been trying to avoid any sort of "blame", rather that they're currently focused on getting it sorted instead.

The situation was a lot less "severe" yesterday, which is when that tweet was made.

[merry nymph]

Now VRC is unintentionally causing cloudflare to blacklist IPs

[velvet quarry]

I still doubt there'll be any lasting consequences to this.

[worthy venture]

Heck

[merry nymph]

Just means some apps might not work, and a number of websites with request a ReCaptcha

[vernal forge]

Would be funny if someone starts asking for compensation on a chat game

[solid dagger]

It would have been helpful if the announcements made actually explained what was happening. I assumed the tweet meant that it was just a connection issue, I was connecting fine so I just said "I'll keep playing". I never knew until a few hours ago that by playing I would get my IP blacklisted. I had to be told by users rather than the developers in their own announcements.

[brisk umbra]

give me 2000 robucks 😛

[still lark]

Those people aren't having any issues

[vernal forge]

The lucky half that didnt get snapped

[brisk umbra]

i mean i didn't get snapped but i am not risking it

[still lark]

I didn't either but it works for me right now.

[vital rune]

that and non-existant communication skills

[brisk umbra]

plus i am not on vrchat at this time anyways

[gilded valley]

when they resolve their bs am i gonna get whitelisted by cloudflare

[primal fable]

It'll take up to 2 weeks from what I've read @gilded valley
Sadly there is not much you can do other than change your IP or use a VPN

[deft flame]

Ok this cloudflare thing is annoying

[velvet quarry]

@primal fable The "2 weeks" people have been saying around is cloudflare's maximum ban time listed on their website, I have seen no indication that people will get that from the current problems.

[deft flame]

One of my server systems got affected because someone in network was playing vrchat now my web server is not working anymore because it can't load the cdn from cloudflare

[thorny lagoon]

did they fix the problem yet?

[brisk umbra]

Nope

[pure bay]

😣 😣

[deft flame]

@velvet quarry is there a way to get unbanned from cf

[primal fable]

Well in the worst case it will take 2 weeks right ?
@deft flame there isnt

[deft flame]

@primal fable I can't affordto have my server offline for 2 weeks

[velvet quarry]

You should be automatically once this is all dealt with

@primal fable Seeing as this exact same problem happened yesterday and no one were hit with "2 week bans", I doubt it.

[primal fable]

@deft flame then you should use a VPN I think :l

[deft flame]

@primal fable I can't bind a server behind a VPN that would break everything

[velvet quarry]

@deft flame If you have some immediate company level server concerns, I'd recommend getting in touch with cloudflare directly about it.

[primal fable]

@velvet quarry I've had this since 2 days ago tho, Still not whitelisted and recaptchas everywhere (Since I had it last morning since start up of PC)

[still lark]

Why do you have a server on the same network as normal users?!?!

[deft flame]

@still lark because some idiot bind the switch wrong don't worry is he dead

[still lark]

lmao

[primal fable]

And It's getting in the way of my and my families job :l

[covert linden]

Mira is there any way you can contact your isp about an ip switch?

[primal fable]

I'm not allowed to, since the police is watching our IP at all times for some personal reasons 😛

[still lark]

lolwot

[covert linden]

Ah that sucks, I was told people had luck by not using anything using cloudflare for a day, but im not aure if you can do that

[primal fable]

I can't since I'm not the only one on this IP ;l sadly I'm using a VPN myself now tho

[novel valve]

How about that, so wanna hop on VR chat in 24 hours when the issues been fixed so we can have a deep dark conversation about depression?

[primal fable]

👀 What if you don't have depression tho ?

[covert linden]

Thought so, worst case scenario is 2 weeeks but supposedly if you dont do anything to reflag it, it should end faster

[novel valve]

I don't actually, but have delt with it

[burnt cliff]

Get yourself a fresh cup of depression from the vrc devs

[primal fable]

I don't think you can flag it by simply using the internet 😃

[burnt cliff]

Yeah, it gets flagged if you were to repeatedly open and close vrc to try and connecy, something I stupidly did around 5 or 6 times

[obtuse smelt]

I got flagged for trying to connect two times

[primal fable]

Same for me @burnt cliff

[covert linden]

No you cant. I didnt say so, just that not using it as much, supposedly makes it go faster. Dont count me on that as I only heard someone say that

[burnt cliff]

I got flagged whilst I was on, what I meant was that after that, I tried to get in 5 or 6 times more

[primal fable]

If you have recaptchas everywhere

[deft flame]

@primal fable what the hell did you do to get yourself on a watch list

[primal fable]

I'll tell you in DM xD

[obtuse smelt]

you sure you want to know that?

[primal fable]

:')))

[vocal shard]

watchlist for what

[primal fable]

Boom ;)) Kappa

[vocal shard]

i was on a watchlist a couple months ago,coulve went to jail for 5 years

[primal fable]

oh damn ok no it's not like that for me, Or is it 👀

[vocal shard]

it wasnt even that bad what i done i was like tf?? yall crazy

[hard fiber]

@primal fable You ignore me to talk about watch lists i see how it is

[rugged ether]

I heard many player got banned, it is error? or real meaning of ban?

[covert linden]

@rugged ether cloudflare ban or vrchat ban

[novel valve]

I just want to play VR Chat and ask random people deep questions about life.

[vocal shard]

ask me a deep question

[rugged ether]

So, its error? for today?

[covert linden]

Many people got cloudflare flagged, Its an "error" but not a ban. Just storms you with recapthas

[novel valve]

What's the most important life event in your life?

[velvet quarry]

It's a temporary problem, should be cleared up once the issue is resolved.

[primal fable]

Im sorry sky 😦 I love you ❤ ❤ ❤

[rugged ether]

Ah, thx for answering

[hard fiber]

No again you crush my heart...

[queen mango]

Cloudflare blacklist, tbe. Happened due to VRChat websockets being mistaken by Cloudflare as a DDoS attack.
It got fixed, but the issue still remains with those who were blacklisted before the fix rolled out @rugged ether

[covert linden]

Afro is it stillhappening to poople who get on vrchat?

[primal fable]

Nooo 😮 I'm sorry ! 😦

[hard fiber]

Nah Mira ;-; I'm gonna end my self bye

[novel valve]

Wow rude

[vocal shard]

thinking

[novel valve]

You better be

[vocal shard]

well i mean my mom survived cancer if that counts

[velvet quarry]

@covert linden I haven't heard of anything new so far, I'd recommend waiting.

[primal fable]

End me with you please ?

[vernal creek]

waiting how much?

[hard fiber]

Mira I can't take you down with me

[vocal shard]

can you guys give me name ideas

[tough girder]

how do you see when u get flagged

[covert linden]

Okay thank you, I just have a server eo I like to keep em updayed

[vernal creek]

I am bored

[obtuse smelt]

@tough girder try to visit Cloudflare's website. If you get a recaptcha check page. Congrats, you've been flagged

[vernal creek]

what is flagged?

[vital rune]

blacklisted

[rugged ether]

Blacklisted. Mean get banned, right?

[velvet quarry]

It's temporary

[vernal creek]

I am scared

[obtuse smelt]

Flagged means you get checked with recaptcha when trying to access and cloudflare based site or service (which is a lot of the internet)

[rugged ether]

Umm... so flagged mean get ban? ( dont care about temporary or not )

[obtuse smelt]

A full ban would mean you basically can't access the internet, but like Afro said, it is temporary and will be resolved when the Devs and Cloudflare fix the issues. If you really can't wait for that then call your ISP and try to get an IP address change. Then stay off VRC till an announcement officially tells us all is safe again

[covert linden]

@rugged ether No. Youll just be captcha spammed ans unable to play cloudflare games. Its not a ban.

[obtuse smelt]

Flagged is not a ban. It just means you're getting checked before entering Cloudflare based sites

[tidal aspen]

You can still access the Internet it just makes you solve a captcha

However not everything let’s you solve a captcha (like VRchat) and in that case you just can’t use the service

[rugged ether]

Ahha, Your guys are so kind.

[tough girder]

http://prntscr.com/nd6zp7 this one

its a screen shot

[hybrid shell]

Fix my cloudflaaaare

[obtuse smelt]

The main issue that is being really complained about is streamers because the streamlabs URLs for the chat, alerts, donation goals, etc widgets are all Cloudflare based, which means any of those on the scenes in OBS appear as ... well what @tough girder just showed you. Except in OBS you can't click through the captcha to procede to it.

[deft flame]

@rugged ether unless you run a webserver you still be able to access all sites but if you do run a site like me your fucked because your site won't be able to load cloudflare cdn content

[glacial scarab]

i just logged in successfully but my ping was spiking

[tough girder]

boi

[glacial scarab]

i hope i didnt trip myself into a trap

[obtuse smelt]

Just because you can log in does not mean it is safe to do so

[covert linden]

@glacial scarab If you enter a loading loop get off ASAAP

[obtuse smelt]

it's happening at random to people and even if you make it in game successfully it can still occur

[tough girder]

true

@obtuse smelt i agtee

[obtuse smelt]

Many people were flagged while they were already in game, playing and in a world

[glacial scarab]

i got into the game no problem (besides the ping), but i didnt linger around and went outside of "home"

[covert linden]

Really? I thought it was only the loading, thank you for the info

[obtuse smelt]

TL:DR as people keep saying. Stay off the game until we get an official announcement of the game being fixed

[covert linden]

^

[tough girder]

RL DR?

[deft flame]

@obtuse smelt you would think this would have highest priority because it's extremely damaging to the game and to people

[covert linden]

Ive made sure nobody in my server even touched the game since it first got brought up

@deft flame Im sure it is a very high priority, its a 20 man team so theyre doing their best

[deft flame]

Seems to me like a easy job just temporarily turn off cf on your game sockets yes it will increase the propability if ddos on your servers but at least your users are safe

[covert linden]

You cant really turn it off.. its not a simple fix. Again theyre doing their best, real fixes take time

[deft flame]

True true and I won't claim I know more than the devs 🙂

[covert linden]

We can only hope its fixed soon but theyre probably aiming for a 100% fix, ensuring it wont still be happening to a few

[obtuse smelt]

I'm just wondering why they can't just turn off the server to the game while they fix this.

[merry nymph]

Sadly there's no 100% for anything in development

[deft flame]

Yeah indeed

[covert linden]

That one I dunno the answer too, sounds smart

@merry nymph You can at least have 100% of people not getting cloudflare issues, is what I meant

[obtuse smelt]

I can't say I'm an expert or anything but I've run servers for different games through server hosts and whenever I needed to change something I just stopped the server from running and fixed it while know one could connect to the server.

[covert linden]

Oppose to half not, and half getting the problem,

I dunno why they dont shut it down.. sounds like a good idea to me

[tough girder]

@obtuse smelt do you think i will not be affected due to i use a private ip also its thru a 3rd party ip provider not the main ISP provider

[merry nymph]

Even that's not possible. There's never a perfect resolution as bugs can slip through. It's more a matter of setting up a way to resolve individual cases once the majority is working

[cold quiver]

The cause of the issue, the vrchat sending to many reconnection attempts has already been fixed

[obtuse smelt]

it still could affect you

[covert linden]

@tough girder Yes you can stil be hit

[cold quiver]

the problem is they still need to work with CF to clear the false positives from the incident

[winter igloo]

The loading infinite is fix ?

[obtuse smelt]

No

[vocal shard]

No

[covert linden]

@merry nymph It is, because there were 0 cases of this before.. If theyre 100% sticking with the websocket method perhaps it cant be for everyone, but the old method it didnt happen

[obtuse smelt]

NOTHING is OFFICIALLY fixed. It's just happening at random.

[covert linden]

The mods have told us just in case to steer clear, because we havent heard word since

[hybrid turtle]

I hope I can log back on in the next day or so, cuz I wanna get back onto VRChat desperately

[tough girder]

eg. level 7 is the main isp , then my provider ussed them for the acces but i dont get a level 7 ip i get a local ipfrom the ip

[vocal shard]

We need lvl5 technician for 300$/year

[tough girder]

Stupid Cloudfare

[vocal shard]

Cloudflare does its job though

[tough girder]

Damm i makethat in 2 dayz

[final vale]

i got in at my first try but my ping is 200

[tough girder]

same you can get in but your ip can still be blocked

[final vale]

what

[tough girder]

thats what i was told

[hazy ore]

So tldr version is don't login or you can get fucked over on the internet majorly.

[tough girder]

Vrcaht uses cloudfare , cloudfare is currently having a issue where users get blacklisted

[obtuse smelt]

VRC and Cloudflare are both part of the issue atm from what I've gathered

[final vale]

basicly the cloudflare bot went rogue and ip banned us all ?

[vocal shard]

VRChat fault, not cloudflare. Cloudflare is just doing what its supposed to do.

[tidal onyx]

^

[hard fiber]

@vocal shard No it's our fault. Technology has made us evil

[tough girder]

the strange thing is wich is weird , some poeple are not effected and some are

[vocal shard]

Oh right, i forgot. Its our (players) fault. All the devs and others are fine and we are the badies

[tough girder]

Stupid someting that no one can blame for should be blamed for doing its job someting like that 😝

[obtuse smelt]

either way, yeah just stay off VRC for the time being till we get official word of a fix from the Devs and make sure your friends are informed as well. And I can't stress enough that "a fix" does not mean some of your friends saying they got on so it's okay or that they used some method to get around it.

[merry nymph]

If your IP changes say every 30 seconds to shorter you won't have any issues most lilely

[velvet quarry]

I don't think there's any IP systems around that change IP's every 30 seconds.

[vocal shard]

I am flagged by cloudflare, i didnt change my IP or whatever. And the more i patiently wait the more websites i can access freerly and some hours ago i was able to get on vrchat and play normally.
Im pretty sure they do work on it. It just takes a while.

[tough girder]

YEAH

[final vale]

maybe they're un-blacklisting ppl one by one

[vocal shard]

And if i understood right the patch they made some hours ago fixed the issue with you pinging the servers many times/sec

[tough girder]

remember they are a small team and can only do that much at ones

GEEZ going to take forever to unblack one by one

oof that sound weird what i just said

[vocal shard]

VRChat can just call cloudflare about the issue. And cloudflare has to un-flag IP's. Its not a few minute process especially when cloudflare is this big

[final vale]

flashback this rememebrs me of anthem'q beta and alpha

[vocal shard]

They cant just do /unflag all command lmao, there are some IPs that should stay flagged

[vernal creek]

what about changing IP

[tough girder]

it wil work

alot of people use that

[final vale]

using a vpn would fix ?

[vocal shard]

If you know how VPN/Cloudflare works, it answers your question lol

[tough girder]

@obtuse smelt

[obtuse smelt]

A VPN could be a temporary fix for getting around the recaptcha issues however I would not get on game even with one

[vocal shard]

@final vale The only flashback you should have from playing anthem is loading screen lmao

[final vale]

INDEED

some ppl even got far from each other in multiplayer to force ppl in loading screens

it was hell

[obtuse smelt]

Okay someone else tag in to explain what's actually going on. It's 9 AM, I haven't slept yet and I'm not telling people the same thing another 20 times over to stop misinformation being spread.

[vocal shard]

Just gotta keep saying "Wait" lol. Go sleepies, you wont achieve much by wasting your time explaining it to everyone and they wont achieve much by screaming about them not being able to get on vrchat

[vital rune]

not just VRC, but pretty much everywhere that uses Cloudflare

[vocal shard]

Well yeah, but you get what i mean

English hard, sorry.

[quartz marlin]

lmao only 4000 online

[rigid crescent]

Pretty common for this time?

[thorny lagoon]

how come some people are able to get in and some people aren't?

[rigid crescent]

Some people didn't get hit with login loop I think

[orchid pine]

I sure got hit with it

[rigid crescent]

Login loop=cloudflare flag. I'm not 100% but some people mentioned using VPNs and it working as well.

[thorny lagoon]

so if a person logged in to vrchat during a particular time, the person got flagged and blocked?

[orchid pine]

It worked with my friend

[vocal shard]

A surprise for you. I am flagged and i got on without seeing login loop x')

[thorny lagoon]

that's like, punishing me for playing the game 😦 crudd

[orchid pine]

But I don't have a VPN so I am hoping it is fixed by tomorrow

[obtuse smelt]

You can get flagged while you are logged in and playing still, last time I'm telling people this

[covert linden]

There are free trials @orchid pine

[midnight kraken]

Hi

[icy lava]

Are you able to pin a message?

[obtuse smelt]

I'm not a mod

[orchid pine]

I know but is it bad that I am to lazy?

[icy lava]

Oh poo, sorry. New here.

[covert linden]

Nope all regular users here. I believe only devs can pin

[lethal arrow]

ldeed

[vocal shard]

Though they did make update fixing it, so you dont send many requests each second? @obtuse smelt

Now its just matter of fixing the flagged IP's

[velvet quarry]

I'm able to pin messages, but I won't pin anything unless I'm absolutely certain about it.

[covert linden]

@orchid pine We have no idea if vrchat will fix who got affected

[velvet quarry]

And there's sadly a lot of uncertainty about the current situation

[thorny lagoon]

vrchat should really end its partnership with CloudFlare

[obtuse smelt]

@vocal shard No official fix for any part of this issue has been made

[thorny lagoon]

it probably lost lots of revenue because of this

[orchid pine]

Yeah true but I will get one if I really need to

[still lark]

@thorny lagoon Who lost revenue? lol

[vocal shard]

Oh-ho-ho time to get flagged even more then!
I am not going to leave vrchat, i will live here from now on.

[obtuse smelt]

Even with a VPN I'd say getting on is still a bad idea

[covert linden]

@vocal shard supposedly people have been STILL getting banned

[thorny lagoon]

vrchat dude, less people to buy stuff = less revenue

[vocal shard]

I was playing vrchat for like 5h and it just gets better for me though. Less and less websites with captcha bs.

[orchid pine]

It started for me by making me really laggy

[true sky]

i dont think im going back on until its resolved. bored of a vpn and the ip getting blacklisted by cloudflare and sitting in login loop or change the IP

plus my ping sits at 200-250

[orchid pine]

rip

[thorny lagoon]

it's great if one has a vpn service that they pay for, but

[covert linden]

@vocal shard some people are still being affected. Doesnt mean everyone

[thorny lagoon]

a lot of the 'free' vpns log every activity you perform

[orchid pine]

yeah true I just tried logging in

[covert linden]

@thorny lagoon free trials

[still lark]

@true sky But ping doesn't really matter.

[thorny lagoon]

so you're basically compromising your privacy to play vrchat

[true sky]

when people speak, it constantly cuts out on my end @still lark

[thorny lagoon]

i wouldn't recommend getting free vpn

[covert linden]

A high ping doez matter

[vocal shard]

Well ill just keep playing, i might regret it later on but for now ill keep having fun without the need to experience real life.

[still lark]

People play with 400 so yeah. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rigid crescent]

No flag master race

[covert linden]

@thorny lagoon free TRIAL is the keyword

[rigid crescent]

You'd think that with all this terrible VRCKarma I've surely built up, some of these bugs would've affected me by now

[thorny lagoon]

@covert linden if you're willing to provide credit card info for that trial, you go ahead man

[rigid crescent]

I wanna stand in solidarity with my flagged brethren

[frail vigil]

What's the VR Chat?

[chrome badger]

@thorny lagoon You dont need credit card for the trials

[obtuse smelt]

Alright last time boys and girls and those of unspecified identity: All we know for sure is that getting on the game right now under and circumstances is NOT 100% safe whether you have a VPN or not. The safest thing to do is to WAIT for the DEVS to OFFICIALLY announce that this issue has been ENTIRELY fixed and NOT keep trying to log into VRC. Do not listen to any rumors or baseless information from friends or strangers about a fix being out or anything like this.

[covert linden]

You might need a credit card, its not rare lol

[thorny lagoon]

for vpn trials? i'm sure you do

[orchid pine]

I have been cutting out for everyone I play with for about a week and it isn't my mic because It works fine on discord and I have tried alot to fix it

[covert linden]

Theres noting wrong wirh sharing your payment method if you cut it in time

[thorny lagoon]

i said, you go ahead, i don't care what you do

[covert linden]

@orchid pine whats your ping?

[chrome badger]

@thorny lagoon Ive try different pay vpn trials when i played lost ark in the kr server. and the trials are free, without any credit card info

[orchid pine]

Not sure

[covert linden]

If you have slow wifi that could be a reason, though I suggest staying off vrchat for now

[thorny lagoon]

free trials without credit card info? good for you

[vocal shard]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 4365 users in VRChat currently

[orchid pine]

maybe but my wifi is normally fine

I have pretty good internet but it is Australian internet and it is terrible

[true sky]

wi-fi has alot of downsides unless on a 5GHz channel

[vital rune]

you havnt been here then @orchid pine

[orchid pine]

Where

[vital rune]

philippine network is way worse

[thorny lagoon]

i wish characters could load faster

[orchid pine]

oh rip

[true sky]

usually you should be able to setup the channel unless you are using an ISP router :/

[thorny lagoon]

or if i could figure out a way to put that appdata folder into a new drive instead of C, that would be great..

[vocal shard]

you eat it and you feel okay

[orchid pine]

what

[vocal shard]

it's just bran

[true sky]

@thorny lagoon https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/ should help out

but dont recommend messing with appdata folder itself incase your external drive fails

[solemn relic]

the hell is cloudflare and how do you get rid of it

[thorny lagoon]

yupp.. i'm scrolling down the pagebut i'm not sure i can do this lol

thanks for the link anyways

[rigid crescent]

You don't get rid of cloudflare without losing access to a lot of websites and games.

[true sky]

@solemn relic Cloudflare is love
Cloudflare is life 😢 🔫

cant get rid of it

[wind bison]

Anyone know why at random times the mirror will cause god awful lag when looking at it and other times no problem at all?

[vital rune]

mirror optimization, nuff said

[thorny lagoon]

@solemn relic from what I understand, it's some sort of network traffic controlling service

[vital rune]

varies each world

[true sky]

Use a mirror without environment and you are set to a less frame killing Mirror

[solemn relic]

does it block vrchat cause my friends can load in but i can't

[true sky]

then cloudflare thinks you are a bot

[solemn relic]

-_-

[thorny lagoon]

yeah apparently some people are able to get in but some people aren't.. the devs said they're fixing it but it's taking kinda long

[velvet quarry]

Things take time

[solemn relic]

cloudflare has its head in the clouds

[true sky]

most likely there will be a medium post explaining all of it

if not, then idk 🤷

[covert linden]

@solemn relic If you get tons of captchas you are flagged. Not if you cant load vrc.

[thorny lagoon]

hope they post it soon though

[covert linden]

There are many reasons why you may not be able to load it as loading loops arent a new issue.

[thorny lagoon]

announcement should be a bit clearer imo, people come in wondering why they can't log in

[solemn relic]

i dont get the captchas just the one if im a robot-o

[thorny lagoon]

and they see something about CloudFlare and they don't know what it is

[ruby needle]

that is a captcha

[true sky]

then you are flagged

[covert linden]

@solemn relic Like often? Or just when logging into like.. discord?

Like are websites irregularily throwing bot tests at you

[solemn relic]

like in my internet browser

[vernal creek]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 4476 users in VRChat currently

[covert linden]

Yeaaaaah sounds like youre flagged..

[solemn relic]

well -_- the fck

[true sky]

@solemn relic then cloudflare thinks you are a robot

[thorny lagoon]

what about logging in from steam though

[solemn relic]

how you fix it?

[thorny lagoon]

i get no captcha, nothing but the loading screen

[covert linden]

Basically, unless theyre fixed youll be recieving those a lot for an unknown duration thatll at a max be 2 weeks, earliest id say today. Stay off vrchat as well until we are told its sage @solemn relic

@thorny lagoon when you google websites and go on, are you getting captchas?

[thorny lagoon]

on the browser? nope

[covert linden]

Then youre likely not flagged

[thorny lagoon]

but how come i can't log into vrchat 😦

[covert linden]

Therr can be many reasons. Loading loop isnt new. But you should wait to go through fixes until vrchats fixed.

[cinder citrus]

@covert linden 'max be 2 weeks' - is that cloudflares basic reset time?

[covert linden]

But if you see any irregular captchas, youve been snatched

[thorny lagoon]

hmm, okay

[covert linden]

@cinder citrus Thats what I found off reddit for how long cloudflare bans can last. Evidentally they can be shorter

[vital rune]

tho for some reason, the program version of Discord doesnt seem to be affected

[covert linden]

@vital rune Discord will ask you if youre a robot if you log off and log back in, as it does for most people

[vital rune]

really? because hours ago I restarted my PC because its uhhhh, commiting itself seppuku

[covert linden]

You can access it because it has a captcha you can press. Vrchat is automatic

[vital rune]

and I logged in no problem

[covert linden]

I get discord captchas all the time, not guarnteed youll get them..its mainly when you go onto websites

[rocky fractal]

I came and gone vrchat it's in an infinite Loop

[covert linden]

@rocky fractal go to a few random websites, are you having to do bot tests?

[vernal creek]

it is loading and loading

[rocky fractal]

Yes

[thorny lagoon]

ah, for those of you like me, i found out that CloudFlare blocked the ISP itself, resulting in all of the users in that ISP not being able to get in at all

[covert linden]

@rocky fractal you have sadly been flagged by cloudflare. You will have to wait patiently. Its a vrchat error, please stay off the game

[rocky fractal]

Ok

[covert linden]

@thorny lagoon I highly doubt theyre blocking entire ISPs if youre not getting captcha. As said, there are DOZENS of reasons vrchat may not load.

It wouldnt only be vrchat as well if thats the case.

[brave totem]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[thorny lagoon]

@covert linden i said this with certainty because it's been confirmed that all of the users in my particular ISP can't log in

[covert linden]

@thorny lagoon Whats the isp?

[thorny lagoon]

KT, in south korea

[covert linden]

Cuz thats very unlikely.

[vernal creek]

south korea?

[thorny lagoon]

dude, this is the official announcement, let it go

[covert linden]

Official by what staff member.

It is not official if its just you saying so.

[thorny lagoon]

i don't know what to tell you that if everybody using the same ISP in my country reports they can't log in, and the community is talking about it, and you're denying it without even knowing sufficient information

[true sky]

yeah, that isnt the only ISP not able to get on

[covert linden]

There can again be hundreds of reasons for a loading loop, like the fact the servers are really bad atm, and its likely not that they were banned

[thorny lagoon]

yeah, i'm sure they blocked other isps too

[velvet quarry]

Entire ISP's being banned seems rather unlikely for cloudflare to do.

[rigid crescent]

Imagine just blocking Comcast lol

[velvet quarry]

They're a service that specializes on dealing with individual IP's and blocking malicious data, blocking an entire ISP wouldn't make much sense.

[true sky]

Some xfinity/comcast users on my friends list cant get on either

[vital rune]

oof

[vernal creek]

https://twitter.com/VRChat_Status

[thorny lagoon]

it seems unlikely, but it's the truth, like i don't know what to tell you

[fresh coral]

Those it work now?

[thorny lagoon]

what do you say to a man that you've just told 'this is sugar' to, and the man says 'i don't believe you, that's unlikely'

[velvet quarry]

@thorny lagoon Seeing as most users at all can't log in, I'd rather say its "coincidental", hardly a certain truth.

[covert linden]

It isnt the truth unless youve got documents from either side saying yes im banned. Also..youre saying JUST vrchat is affected. Meaning that wouldnt be cloudflare banning people fun fact there

[fresh coral]

Dose it work now?

[covert linden]

Cloudflare isnt gonna flag you and make you unable to acces ONE service.

[vernal creek]

@fresh coral NO, it doesn't

[void inlet]

inf loading

[fresh coral]

😭 but i want to play

[thorny lagoon]

@covert linden just because you're wrong doesn't mean you have to try to make up for the fact that you were wrong by denying everything that is told to you

[covert linden]

Im not wrong and I brought a mod in to get it clarified.

Please tell me how cloudflare is banning an entire isp, from one service.

[thorny lagoon]

you don't even have the information that's provided to the community here, and you're trying to make a case for it.

[covert linden]

@void inlet When you go onto websites, are you being hit with captchas aka bot checks?

[velvet quarry]

The information you have provided is not enough to be considered 100% a "truth".

[vernal creek]

check this please https://twitter.com/VRChat_Status

[covert linden]

I have the information that has been gathered. Nothing ive been saying is a lie.

[void inlet]

no

[thorny lagoon]

you're going off the fact that 'it is unlikely' over and over, when i tell you that it is happening and everybody is reporting the case.

[rocky fractal]

I'm just sad

[covert linden]

@thorny lagoon Tell me how thats possible please :)

Tell me how cloudflare flags you but only on vrchat.

[thorny lagoon]

if i tell you something is happening, and you tell me 'how is that possible?!?!' it's like

[covert linden]

Not just you but ann entire isp, from vrchat. Vrchat is not a big enough game. There qre connection issues with the server

[thorny lagoon]

i don't even know what point you are trying to make, and this is getting rather tiring

[covert linden]

I could tell you right now the cause is tupper and all the announcements say tupper and that most members report it. Its a lie and youre doing a similar thing

[rocky fractal]

I crashed last night on a map loading and I got on this morning to play again it just the infinite loading screen so you just told me to wait so I'm just want me to do

[void inlet]

@covert linden I never really get bot checked unless the rare occasion such as making a new account on a website

[thorny lagoon]

yes, an entire isp, from vrchat. it's happened to other games, too, and those games acknowledged that fact and fixed it, it's not all that uncommon, getting an isp banned in korea

[covert linden]

@void inlet Okay good, theres a cloudflare ip flagging going around due to vrchat, best to steer clear

[thorny lagoon]

i tell you this with experience and empirical evidence, and all you're saying over and over is 'but how is that possible?!' and 'that is very unlikely?!'

[covert linden]

@thorny lagoon If you truly believe its true you can contact support but as far as an "official" thing that stand as nothing but a rumor.

[vernal creek]

excuse me : https://twitter.com/VRChat_Status

[covert linden]

Unless a mod or dev says the same, its a rumour.

[vernal creek]

can you read thas please...

[thorny lagoon]

oh my god.. i'm done arguing with you

[covert linden]

@vernal creek please stop spamming that we have all seen it

[thorny lagoon]

i get you're upset that you're wrong, but learn to admit your mistakes and move on, man

[wraith tangle]

this is getting ridiculous i just wanna hang out with my friends on vrchat

[covert linden]

Im more "upset" with you spreading wrong information

[merry nymph]

Same. I had VR for a matter of hours before this happened

[covert linden]

I dont believe im wrong at all.

[vernal creek]

oh sorry, I just see you there saying there is no mod or dev saying there is official info

[covert linden]

@vernal creek Im saying no info on an ENTIRE isp beinf banned

[thorny lagoon]

how is reporting the information i got from the entire community base here and the evidence i got from everybody using the same isp considered 'wrong information'

[covert linden]

There is info on the cloudflare stuff thats real.

[true sky]

rather wait on devs response as they have confirmed a cloudflare issue

[velvet quarry]

What is "The entire community base"

[void inlet]

See, this is what happens when VRchat is down...

Everyone gets fired up

[thorny lagoon]

@velvet quarry we have vrchat community in this country too, that's upset with this issue as well

[wraith tangle]

im on a bloody australian isp and i have a friend on with the same one and they are able to get on it yet i am not able to

[velvet quarry]

Many people use the same ISP per country, and currently the majority of the VRChat user base is having this issue, seeing as those people are part of "Majority of VRChat user base", I find it more likely that the issue is hitting them normally.

[merry nymph]

I'm with you there Levi

[covert linden]

Korea is far from the servers so connection issues arent new.

[thorny lagoon]

i'm sorry, @velvet quarry , but what you're saying is out of point and makes no sense at all

[void inlet]

Same, Australian ISP, Optus though

[velvet quarry]

You're free to present it as a theory, but I am not comfortable taking it as fact at the present time.

[merry nymph]

Vividwireless

Which has a static public IP that doesn't even link to me. Says I'm in Sydney. I'm not

[wraith tangle]

@void inlet im on bloody dodo mate

[vocal shard]

What should i do with someone that can enable noclip/flying? xd

[thorny lagoon]

100 people using ISP called 'Comcast' or whatever and no one from 'Comcast' reporting they were able to get in means 'Comcast' was blocked, @velvet quarry .

[void inlet]

Only masochists use Dodo imo

[covert linden]

@vocal shard if its not the avatar doing it, you can report and record it to #moderation-reports

@thorny lagoon 100 people isnt much at all to say thats a fact...

[void inlet]

I should say no offence

[vocal shard]

Im pretty sure its not avatar since they make no hand gesture for animation

[ruby burrow]

@vocal shard It may be playspace mover which is allowed and not malicious, or it may be a mod client. Can you confirm which it is?

[thorny lagoon]

if you want to argue your case with 'oh but that's not scientifically correct, that's a hypothesis and it is yet to be proven,' i'm done arguing with you as you have completely disregarded the rule of 'Common Sense.'

[wraith tangle]

@void inlet sadly i dont have a job mate and have bills to pay it sucks being on a government benefit when it doesnt even provide minimum wage

[covert linden]

Common sense woupd be not ruling something as 100% confirmed without having it being confirmd

[ruby burrow]

Ah. Well if they're not doing the "climbing" kind of thing, then yes feel free to report them.

[thorny lagoon]

same goes for @covert linden you too

[vocal shard]

He isnt FBT though and doesnt move hands while flying @ruby burrow

[void inlet]

@wraith tangle Bloody liberal government ay

[ruby burrow]

Yeah, probably a hack then.

[vocal shard]

Guess ill report them later on

[velvet quarry]

I'm currently putting more weight on the competence of Cloudflare as an industry grade networking company to not have to block an entire ISP when their service is specifically meant to handle specific IP's at a time.

Until I hear official word from either Cloudflare or VRChat about such things, it'll be considered a theory.

[thorny lagoon]

if i want to spread information that a lot of people has reported and is making a strong case, you have no right to tell me that is wrong information, and that equates to you being wrong, @covert linden .

[merry nymph]

CastS. All were trying to say is your information had not yet been confirmed by either staff/devs of VRC or Cloudflare. Were trying to keep all information strictly to what's been given by those sources

[covert linden]

Only info I spread is confirmed by mods so I mean

[rancid talon]

@ruby burrow @vocal shard new advanced settings has a reverse gravity feature that allows "floating" without climbing, but we don't emulate trackers so they'd be in FBT for sure if using that, and you'd see the nametag stay at ground level

[covert linden]

I can go on vrchat right now and get myself flagged if you think dev+mod word isnt enough evidence

[thorny lagoon]

okay, i'll make my case with spreading a 'theory,' then. but drop the argument that 'ohmahgod that's so unlikely'

[merry nymph]

So until it's confirmed by a source at which the problem originates, it's better to just let it go for now

[rigid crescent]

Rae gives no fucks.

That's something I'd do. Get myself flagged or banned to prove a point

[rancid talon]

Also hi @ruby burrow long time no see 😁

[ruby burrow]

I've only just came into this so obviously don't know the history of this discussion, but far as I@m reading it Rae and Afro are making more sense overall here.

[thorny lagoon]

making sense how? all they said was 'i don't believe you'

[true sky]

@thorny lagoon you are treating it as a "Its my country only" issue when it is further outside that, so until devs say something, its a theory.

[covert linden]

Fun fact spreading false information iz against the rules and if it gets labelled as false by a dev youll be stuck.

[ruby burrow]

You're making bold claims of rock solid evidence without being able to actually present any.

[vocal shard]

Huh, another ohe flying though his avatar didnt load yet :v

[coarse rock]

yoo @rancid talon what’s good dood

[umbral reef]

@thorny lagoon You do realize that if ALL of comcast got blocked by cloudfare that ALL comcast users are fully unable to use most of the internet? Id be pretty dam sure that is news worthy then 👀

[ruby burrow]

@rancid talon Haha, hi Kung! 🙂

[rigid crescent]

Careful squishy. We've gone this whole time without the hivemind argument. You don't wanna summon them

[merry nymph]

No sense beating a dead horse @covert linden @thorny lagoon How about just agreeing until it's public info from a source, it's a theory and to let it go until confirmed

[thorny lagoon]

yeah, that is news worthy, is a news here, and is being reported by the community and internet news articles as well

[covert linden]

Mic at this point idc, im on school wifi so ill get that flagged if I wanna : P

[rancid talon]

Yo @coarse rock 👋

[icy lava]

I’m just sad this happened two days after I installed the dang thing ;-; I was having so much fun...

[coarse rock]

been a while 👌🏻

[thorny lagoon]

at this point, it's almost official here, and of course it's a big incident.

[ruby burrow]

@thorny lagoon That would be national news worthy, not VRC discord worthy.

[covert linden]

Its simply nothing but a rumor without proof and itll stay like that.

[nocturne furnace]

Such madlads eh?

[umbral reef]

@thorny lagoon Got a link then? Because communities often spread false information.
And havent seen anything at all on the news that Comcast, not VRchat, is getting cloudfare blocked.

[thorny lagoon]

are you sure you'll be able to read Korean?

[covert linden]

@umbral reef theyre claiming KT and comcast are being blocked from vrchat only. : P

[thorny lagoon]

i didn't say comcast was blocked, i don't know about the situation with it

[ruby burrow]

It would cause significant issues far beyond the game and probably trigger a legal confrontation between ISPs and cloudflare.

[thorny lagoon]

KT was definitely blocked though

[covert linden]

Do you have official word that its blocked? Or just your word without evidence.

[umbral reef]

Also just give me the link casts, dm it.

@ruby burrow It would make cloudfares stock crash hard-

[thorny lagoon]

@covert linden Do you have evidence that it is not? Because I'm giving evidence of numerous people's testimony and you have given me none to disprove it.

[merry nymph]

CastS. People don't prove that that's what the issue is

[true sky]

🤦

[covert linden]

No, but doesnt matter if theres no evidence to either side.

[thorny lagoon]

So you don't have evidence, and I do. So why are you attempting to make a case?

[covert linden]

My proof is that it's been ruled off as a theory, because you have no proof.

[merry nymph]

That just says there's a bunch of people having either the same or very similar issues preventing access. It could be unrelated to this even

[ruby burrow]

In all technicality, this situation is just VR-Chat accidentally acting like a small scale DDoS attack on Cloudflare. If that was enough to somehow trigger an ISP block, it would happen almost nonstop.

[covert linden]

Because I can say that, my school cafeteria sells poison. You can believe me, but I have no evidence, you have none against me either,

[thorny lagoon]

Yeah, and I admitted that it's a theory. But you on the other hand, are going off on and on saying 'that's not possible' and I fail to see what point you're trying to make.

[ruby needle]

you need to prove your claim before anyone needs to counter prove it tho

[umbral reef]

@thorny lagoon https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/ Go to Asia and find your Korea there- Its fully working and all 👌
They are legally forced by the EU and US to not lie on these pages so.

[merry nymph]

What Rae has said is it's not likely. And to be frank there are more likely causes to it than having an entire IP blocked

[covert linden]

Upvote what fpaul said ^^

[umbral reef]

There- Counter proven.
Now id still love to see that news website reporting on this in korean as you claimed they did.

[thorny lagoon]

It may be wrong and it may be right, but people here believe this is leaning more on the right side, and I relayed that information.

[covert linden]

It isnt just me saying its unlikely, its mods, its DOZENS of people here.

[thorny lagoon]

If you want more evidence and you're able to read Korean, head on over to the 'Korean' room tab on the side.

[merry nymph]

Were trying to simply stick to only what's been given by the devs

[viral pumice]

🦈

[covert linden]

okay so now youre saying it may be wrong, which means its not 100% confirmed.

[rugged ether]

@umbral reef In the site, Operational mean can join the VRC?

[civic pine]

Correlation does not imply causation, huh...

[thorny lagoon]

I've been saying that since like 15 minutes ago, were you even reading?

[covert linden]

And since it's not, it's a rumor ^^

[true sky]

^

[covert linden]

What ive read is you going off saying my side has no evidence and how its already been proven. Dunno what you think youre typing man

[umbral reef]

@rugged ether No it means the Cloudfare servers there are working.
Not that VRchat works.

[rugged ether]

Umm... ok thx

[lost hare]

@true sky still stuck in a loading loop ?

[true sky]

yep and gave up

[lost hare]

Me too

[merry nymph]

Look. What we know is VR Chat is causing false positives to Cloudflare. We know that this causes blacklisting. THAT IS IT.

[thorny lagoon]

I simply made a case that this is what is happening, and you're going off like this is a Congress meeting, @covert linden . Just drop it, admit you're wrong, and move on

[true sky]

just sitting in unity working on an avatar to pass time

[umbral reef]

Also from me skimming the #korean i cant find anything about cloudfare being blocked country wide...

[lost hare]

Let make a distrack on vrchat

[covert linden]

I am not wrong? I have many people backing me up.

[true sky]

^

[nocturne furnace]

Guys, just freaking lay it off! VRC is freaking off to majority of the people. So what? We are not a goddamn devs! Go play some other goddamn game and vc through here if you have to!

[thorny lagoon]

Oclac - country wide? no, ISP-wide. No one said anything about country-wide bans

[vital rune]

its not just VRC, its everywhere that uses Cloudflare @nocturne furnace

[nocturne furnace]

Yes, that too!

[covert linden]

This person is not getting any captchas either oclac

[vital rune]

sure you could just smash the captchas in websites but good luck with online games

[thorny lagoon]

Rae, just because you have people outside of Korea who know nothing of what goes on here backing you up does not make you right.

[ruby burrow]

That's not how making a case works. You don't suggest "I have a theory that is possible" and "It's also absolute and you are all wrong" at the same time.

[merry nymph]

That's a good chunk of websites. Including Twitch

[umbral reef]

@merry nymph Its not a false positive.
Tl;dr Vrchat cant load, it tries to reconnect. It fails. And keeps trying and trying.
This simulates a robot attack towards cloudfare and makes your IP lower 'ranked'.
This results in websites asking you to confirm your human and not a robot.

[vital rune]

Twitch oddly seems to be working without any issues for me so far

[covert linden]

You have 0 evidence Cast.

[thorny lagoon]

It just means you have a lot of supporters who are in the same position as you, lacking information.

Boom, Rae's argument goes down to flush.

[vocal shard]

So many "experts" 👀

[covert linden]

No it doesnt?

[umbral reef]

@thorny lagoon An intire ISP then. Point still stands.

[vital rune]

then again its probably because I have it "keep me signed in" checklist checked

[velvet quarry]

Whichever the case may be, it does not matter in the end, lets drop this.

[covert linden]

okidoki ^^

[thorny lagoon]

Oclac/Yeah, entire KT ISP, if you read things going on there

[civic pine]

The issue is that 100% of a ISP's users not being able to access something does not guarantee that it's an ISP block. Especially considering a hilariously large amount of VRchat players worldwide are getting bot flagged...

[merry nymph]

Hence a false positive. Being it's tripping positive to being a not/malicious/triggering ReCaptchas

I agree with Afro

[umbral reef]

Well- If you list it like that yea. But cloudfare is just doing its job. Its just that VRchat made a mistake what triggers it.

[thorny lagoon]

anyway, to people who may have missed the information because of the argument,

[true sky]

your isp is blocked by cloudflare 🤦

[thorny lagoon]

if you're in Korea and you're using KT, it's likely CloudFlare blocked you, wait it out

[velvet quarry]

Final warning

[merry nymph]

Just move on for now guys. Were beating a dead horse here and all it's doing is working frustration

[coarse rock]

Thanks for mods, geez, this has been going on for idk how long lmfao

[true sky]

^

[covert linden]

[void inlet]

So its just a little mess between VRchat and Cloudflare that got certain ISP's banned for a little while?

[covert linden]

So Bond, Hows the weather over there?

[crystal rock]

RIP Casts

[vital rune]

its not just a mess ,its a wasteland

[covert linden]

@void inlet As far as we are aware, isps arent being blocked, just people are being flagged once they try entering vrchat. All we can do though is wait
Hopefully if you are recieving captchas they go away soon*

[void inlet]

@covert linden Luckily, no captchas. Just VRchat's infinite loading but here's hoping it goes away and we can all chill in the VRC discord

[thorny mason]

uwu account finally gets to have custom Avi. pwp and nows the game isnt up. am sad ;×;

[pastel egret]

So why are people getting banned for talking about this whole situation

[covert linden]

@void inlet Once this is all over and fixed, if you are still experiancing issues run over to #user-support-old And there should be some people who can help you

[ruby burrow]

No one is getting banned from the game or or talking.

[true sky]

@pastel egret spread false info and then poof

[void inlet]

rgr that

[covert linden]

@pastel egret The mods warned the topic to drop, people who couldnt drop it, has been kicked after 2 warnings.

[velvet quarry]

It was a pointless argument that had no goal and was only causing toxicity in general.

[ruby burrow]

Cast got kicked from the discord just now for repeatedly spreading unconfirmed rumours and arguing it for an hour. That's all.

[viral pumice]

Look, don’t suppose we can all agree the world has enough meaningless conflict in it? No?

[pastel egret]

but that's pretty bad don't you think, there is clearly something wrong with the update so don't you think it's good to get feed back from the community but that's just me

[ruby burrow]

That wasn't feedback superspartan.

[wicked remnant]

the biggest problem is getting of the Blacklist its nearly impossible

[true sky]

feedback would be how to fix it, not argue with everyone without evidence

[velvet quarry]

Theories and discussion is welcome, aslong as it is civil.

[vocal shard]

Think we all should just wait for further information rather than have pointless arguments.

[covert linden]

@wicked remnant It's not impossible, it just takes a little big of time sadly

[pastel egret]

i mean if someone is just being an ass then that's just bad, but, asking people to drop the topic isn't any better

[wicked remnant]

thats why it says nearly 0w0 @covert linden

[coarse anchor]

^

[hazy bobcat]

+1

[covert linden]

Dunno, 2 weeks max (usually much less) doesnt seem impossible but to each their own

[ruby burrow]

Personally my theory is that this is a pre-emptive attack on VR-Chat by Second Life, preparing for a full scale virtual invasion.
They're trying to take our headpats.

[covert linden]

Mods have full ability to get us to drop it, if they feel its out of hand. If they repeat it and say to drop it, it's only fair that there will be punishment. Especially when the last message, was meant to re-stir the drama

[merry nymph]

I got blacklisted hours ago before the most recent updates on twitter. So RIP me

[pastel egret]

Second-Life 🤢

[wicked remnant]

@covert linden problem is there is multiple blacklists and depending on how many you are its gonna get harder

[coarse anchor]

I mean knowing how much Lewd thigns are going on in VRChat they rpetty close in Overtaking Second Life

[covert linden]

Nooo not our heaaadpattts ;-;

[hazy bobcat]

Second life has been dead for decades xD

[flint swift]

If you go around 6 hours without whats deemed as “suspicious activity” cloudflare will unflag your ip again

[merry nymph]

Yeah but what the hecc do I do for 6 hours?

[flint swift]

Use a vpn

[coarse anchor]

VRChat Blueballing their uses 17.04.2019 , mass Panic breaks out

[viral pumice]

Ponder the meaning of life

[merry nymph]

Cant afford one XD

[covert linden]

Nep do you have evidence of such? I believe people are still getting it 24hours later without being suspicious, but im not sure on that. Did yours go away that fast?
Just worried about saying that incase yknow.. some peoples last days

[heavy dawn]

Go download Unity3D and Blender and make some content 😃

[grand sinew]

I miss vrchat

[viral pumice]

...

[flint swift]

Rae my evidence is myself lol

[heavy dawn]

was logged out of VRC in Unity3D (the SDK usually stays logged in) also logged out of the game. But I was able to submit levels and get into the game.

[covert linden]

Ah okay, Mines reddit so I mean : P not as helpful

[civic pine]

Unfortunately multiple people in my household will be using the internet... so I bet that suspicious activity counter still keeps resetting

[flint swift]

I dont have dynamic ip so i know my ip didnt change it was simply my ip being unflagged

[hazy ore]

Not being able to give and get headpats welp guess it's time to die if that would ever be the case

[ruby burrow]

Can you prove to us that you exist and are not a robot? 🔲

[covert linden]

Dw I believe you

[heavy dawn]

@hazy ore Give headpats in real life. Report back with results.

[wicked remnant]

time to leave the house and do some IRL stuff i guess

[flint swift]

I get headpat in real life ._. 4 foot life sucks

[hazy ore]

@heavy dawn I do on a few people, they get mad if they don't get them

[heavy dawn]

Aww! Little one! I'm sorry you get headpats when you don't want them.

[vocal shard]

i wanna headpats

[flint swift]

Bleh 20 and 4’10 lmao it’s awful

[golden osprey]

o.o

[heavy dawn]

It's always best to ask if you're going to touch someone. It's not weird to ask. Shows you actually care about how they feel about it.

[merry nymph]

And here I thought I was smol at 5'7

[vocal shard]

yeah i'll always ask people to pat me

[ruby burrow]

Real life is kinda unfair like that. Stuck in the same avatar for the entire session.

[flint swift]

Well that would be tall for me since avg size for girls is only like 5’4

[merry nymph]

Headpats are best ❤

[heavy dawn]

I'm 5'8" apparently... 174cm? VRC/Vive seems to have issues with my height sometimes.

Being 4'10" would make reaching some things hard, but being smaller was always pretty cool about being younger.

[vocal shard]

im 170cm

[coarse anchor]

Everyone wants Headpats, and all iw ant is dick feels bad dude

[merry nymph]

169cm to be precise

[hazy ore]

@ruby burrow any changes to the avatar is pricey

[ruby burrow]

Getting a headpat or anything at least once ever, would be nice. ._.

[covert linden]

I'm 5'2

[flint swift]

Well yeah 4’10 145cm makes that middle shelf tough when shopping lol. I get told im an irl loli >.<

[rancid talon]

The smaller you are, the relatively bigger your playspace is for you

[heavy dawn]

OMG... kind-of inappropriate.

[hazy bobcat]

If you can't be bothered to wait, the cloudflare blacklist is actually only based upon your external IP address.
Results may vary, but at least on Virgin Media (UK) your external IP address is based upon the current MAC address of your router. Going into your router settings and setting a new one, rebooting everything ended up fixing the captcha issue for me

[ruby burrow]

I wouldn't want to be short all the time, due to obvious drawbacks, but it'd also be nice not to get back pain from things as simple as washing the dishes or preparing food at a counter.

[merry nymph]

You could always just make frens with a tall person

[vocal shard]

I am 25 feet tall

[vital rune]

Im a fucking manlet, 163cm

[ruby burrow]

And yeah, being able to shrink myself on demand to get a bigger playspace would be amazing. xD

[flint swift]

One day ill grow above 145cm and get bigger “personalities” too lol

[modern sand]

#general-media pls

[vocal shard]

you mean bigger oppai @flint swift

[flint swift]

Im hoping on a hidden growth spurt when i hit 21 next year lmao

[vocal shard]

im 21

[coarse anchor]

Random chat, i dont know talking about VR Playspace area seems on topic for me

[ruby burrow]

I had a friend in school way way back, that in all seriousness once claimed to be 11 foot 12 inches.
He was a tad confused on how that works.
( I always end up posting something before noticing the ranchatpls. >_>; )

[merry minnow]

I just hope all of this doesnt kill the game

[true sky]

it wont

[vocal shard]

I was afk and i got logout

wtf

[covert linden]

It's best to stay out of vrchat, its still not safe yet

[vocal shard]

but a admin says its safe to be inside vrchat

[hallow trout]

i got kicked into a load loop that seems to never load

[vocal shard]

me too again

[covert linden]

The mods now say, we arent too sure, check #announcements

[vocal shard]

Tupper i know you here buddy

[hallow trout]

@swift pivot what do you mean "your right screwed mate"

[tidal onyx]

IP banned

[vocal shard]

@velvet quarry it is safe to get in vrchat now?

[covert linden]

People have been getting flagged all morning, you might as well steer clear. Also it is in the rules not to ping the admins

[hallow trout]

it was fine untill my screen went black and kicked me to my home world then did it again but the loading bar became static

[covert linden]

IF you'd like to ping someone, it'll be the mods.