#vrchat-general-2
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Wait are the servers 100% dead like actually
Man so many similar people. We all should have a good time right now
I'm still in
Menu won't update though
!online
regardless of talent you can just iterate and revise a model until you get it right
Not 100% dead, i dont think new server shards are being created, but old ones are still on
🅱️ot 🅱️roke
soooooooo
oof
favorite quote yet bout this "RON! Did you just blacklist our IP in cloudflare?"
are the worlds gone?
I had no idea CloudFlare was a thing until last night lol

maybe CloudGFlare deleted everything... im so concerned
when you have a model with 600k of polys and you dont see nothing in blender 🤔
😅
Transparency - 100
no user picture of curent avatar
they are here even if they not
everything is mixed up
briliant just briliant
Deception - 100
Autobots - Rollout
hello, I cannot login with steam
servers : dead
servr still down?
Hotel - Trivago
VRC machine broke
I was able to play 10 min ago
memes - G(old)
When VRC machine more broke then my mchdonalds ice cream machine
guys error 521 on the site
@vocal shard @shell apex is back for you x
Error 521 Ray ID: 4c8883ea3cb059de • 2019-04-16 19:20:13 UTC
Web server is down
@crude wedge nice icon lol
burger king foot lettuce
💞 ~
I’m still online some how though worlds aren’t loading
photo on vrchat pictures

@red egret servers are big dead, they're working on it 🅱
well
i can say for my self that i'm pretty adicted to vrchat
and i know that dev's has so many problems to fix
weteher is there's fault or other factors
but i'm sure that they will come up with something
any time soon
i just hope so
✌🏻
You're probably "online" meaning you're just in a local instance of the game
We need to make triangle with drago @vocal shard
Drago? Somebody say drago?
ThEy ArE wOrKiNg On It
Sure thing @vocal shard
i can't play vrchat,its kicking me out of server,what happen
hi
Ohhhh
99% banned RIP
Check announcements y'all Jfc
servers are down, please be patient. let devs figure it out
everything is dead, let's wait few hours and let's see
then why is not coming up >w<
Henlo @hard fiber
Lord some people. We are spamming that servers are dead and they ask "Are servers dead?"
Maybe we can get people from here ? sky ?
If they're willing to be our friend ? 😮
ye i check,thanks guys
@vocal shard is that why it's 20 seconds?
Lmao hey @ashen elbow
I'm in vrchat and there's a ton on red avatyars
do the have server backups?
@hard fiber Its 30s even, and prob yes.
ThEy ArE wOrKiNg On It
🦀 vrchat is gone 🦀
Btw whos telling it to cloudflare?
Does someone wanna be my friend here ? 👀
Did tupper pee on the server rack again?
Yes
let's do vrchat here hah?
maybe it will be fun
Sorry guys, you're all going to have to play Sansar now. Bring out your second life avatars
lazy devs
its time for vrchat thru oculus dash
!users
what if we start an hashtag?
got from another server:
DO NOT go on vrchat the new websocket fucked up and will cause the cloudflare dns servers to flag your ip as suspicious
@shell apex Is about pull a cosplay again, hide your colors
hallo
i am in this grey window server room
anybody here
😃
i want someone to play some music here
when tupper trips over the router wire when grabbing coffee for vrpill... again
what is there to play?
alexa play despacito
@inland acorn wdym
So I should probably jump off VRChat now then? xD @inland acorn
ooooh nooo
😃
OOF
@vocal shard No. Its a forbidden site to use
do people just not read the #announcements
yeah you should epic
nani
basically @meager solstice
it lives
stuck in a loading loop on my part
NANI?
VR machine 🅱️roke
My Entire Furry Life 🅱roke
This time I won't log off, I'll stay in this room and see what happens

oof

Even the name can get you introuble @vocal shard a lot of files from there contain malware
why are they trying to revive vrchat?
so vrchat is dead?
oof sorry guys i have initation i need to go now
😃
Hello, VRChat
VRChat machine broke
Understandable have a good day
is there any game like vrachat?
no its new shit is broke
i saw that lol, got timed out from mentioning the name
Sansar DDOS'ed VRChat lol
there are a few games like vrchat but I won't list them here
i hate DDO'S i wish that i can eat it
not even a ddos
just devs applying something its not meant for
put some ketchup on it and i will eat it 😃
well.. vrchat is dead for this evening... time to get back to minecraft then
vrchat dead, time to start living again
alexa play ave maria
I'm getting nothing but the login wheel over and over again.
hmm... it taste on rubber and chease
this is so fucking sad, alexa call the vrchat team and tell them to move their fucking ass cuz i want to play
I got to my home world once only for it to crash back to the login wheel again
it's not taste so good
i think they are kicking u out
?
i mean if they are working on it they are kicking u out
yooooo whats happened i was stuck in a portal for 15 min nothing happend ??
are the servers down?
What's origin down mean
what are you doing there
do you try to cache some fish in digital sea? 😃
They're working on fixing things at the moment
waiting patioently
yeah yeah same here
huh i cant even login
what happens if i go on the site?
same
Yup
yeah that's a god question is site is accessable
nope its not
i hope their gonna fix it dont everyone?
site is down
dam
:(
well that's some nasty bug out there
but for every problem there must be a some kind of solution
I think people stress the issue enough, yes It's going to be fixed, yes you have to wait for it to be fixed properly
error 521 or something like that
I'm doing a funniest moments part 2 this Sunday on vrchat
game works but not any worlds guess no fun tonight
soooo why did cloudflare close that, thats not cool
Normal people: Just wait, itll be okay soon.
Others: Omg servers are down? When they back? Do i need VPN? Why servers down? Red avatars? Loading loop?
this is going to break my one year of sleeping in vr streak
one year of sleeping in vr? that sounds very interesting
in worlds not connected
what if u spend a week in vrchat
yea, every night since last may
Dang.
oh my
Without VRChat I'm lost lol
oof

just sleep in another social app or something. somewhere comfy
Menu started updating, is it still down?
Jeez. Fuck Cloudflare and everything they are doing to the internet
just tweeted to cloudflare
well i sleep in my confy chair that's something
😃
Don't start talking about moving to another social app. our lords and masters will strike us down!!!
I've played Murder so much every day that I always find people I've played with before. That world is great for making friends.
aaaa that's good one 😃
So many people I've seen rage in murder
is it safe to log on now
nope
There'll be an announcement when things get sorted out.
ETA 4 years
https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/4z9uu3/cloudflare_protects_internet_users_by_insisting/d6uflx2/ Good read about cloudflare (by some random reddit user though so take it with some other info and a grain of salt)
Gallium soo what happened
rage
wait...
you mean that they dont just enjoy like in that game as a game
and they actually want to trow every anger on us when they playing that murder game
wow
😦
Reasons why I hate public worlds. That, and I don't feel as safe anymore
I'm always like "I know youu and I know youu and I know youu!" or people are like "didn't I play a few games with you before?" I spend like six hours a day on it lol
We're just as unsure as you all are. We're just chat mods for the discord trying to make sure that fires don't start catching. @plush cove
same here
@plush cove Problems with CloudFlare causing service access problems as far as I know.
I am seeing a bloody message that people are sharing to every discord saying that people get banned if they try to log in LOL
People seem to genuinely believe it
alright thanks Xiexe and Gallium
im gonna miss all off you guys if its gonna be deleted😖
Ill miss my vrchat boyfriend becauae I def only talk to him in vrchat ;-;
well i stop visiting public worlds 7 months ago
but sometimes i visit with my group
but i am rather filling safe in none public worlds
which is fine by me
@hybrid basin 90% of those messages I've seen come by tend to be 1% truth and 99% horseshit.
Remember ones claiming stuff could literally set your PC on fire? Like, how the fuck do you even do that lol.
Open 300 tabs of chrome
Yeah!!! I am upset that they are scaring communites for no reason
ulala
that's a strong words dude
what if
i mean you can burn out your parts, but you definitely cant light up someone's pc unless they've got really, really flawed components
@distant granite 2119 tabs open in firefox, fight me
When i'm try to connect my game said"Could not log in Origin down" Help
Prove it
Hold on
@rough pulsar Say good bye to your GPU overclocking from those tabs
10,000 tabs of Internet Explorer
Pics or it didn’t happen @rough pulsar
pointer fuckery immediately comes to mind as a way of doing physical damage to hardware via software
VRchat for nintendo switch
Site is working now for me
Is that even useful? I usaully don't go much apst 200 myself because then half the things I've got open will be garbage and not relevant
Well there has been Nvidia and AMD Cards catching on Fire if used "incorrectly" xD
PLEASE check #announcements if you dont know whats going on
I really wanted VRChat for the Nintendo Labo to be our April fools thing
I even had the discord account @ Nintendo#0001
VRChat for Iphone X
Time check
why not
Do you have chrome set to reopen all your tabs when you open it? That's madness
@rough pulsar is a legend
Orgin Down is big gay
Gallium thats soo extraaa
@nimble linden Firefox, and yes. I also forget to close tabs a lot.
A LOT.
oof here we go again
i better spawn another discord vrchat protal and i will go to friend plus great pug discord world
😃
btw it would be cool
Wait so why shouldn’t I log in?
You must just have ctrl taped down
@distant granite u can log in u just cant cuz the servers are down
That sucksss
Safari > Firefox
Opera > all
I was in game, but then I crashed 😦
I wanna go in again
Oh okay, guess I should take my gear off then -_-
Chrome > firefox > internet explorer > Safari
Lol you use chrome
im going to have to stop you there
Internet Explorer > Chrome > firefox > Safari
are vrchat servers stable now ?
you should put edge in between Firefox and IE
I use opera
@final vale Probably not yet, keep an eye on #announcements
Better than youe mac browser Safari : P
Yay already verified.
Ok
Better then crashing cause "Windows"
@vocal shard is senpai
heh who uses web browsers when you can use books, god get with the times
all of this is nothing
but my biggest fear is that the topper and his crew
will get tyerd of fixing a bugs and other stuf and the vrchat will venish
please someone say that i am not right
😦
Woah
I hate Chrome as a company
Edit: Yes. Everything related to Google
Ive never had crashing problems because of windows wym
You mean Google?
PogChamp
I hate Google with a legit passion
But they have pokemon
maybe if they stopped getting funding for whatever reason. the devs are really dedicated to this game
oh i thought they were on for a sec (they are investigating)
Stop getting BotNetted vrc
thanks
i can only see 3 of my friends?
Would be nice if we could donate to VRChat so we can get more stabe resources
the server issues may be crappy now, but remember when vrchat blew up in 2018? before that they just expected to deal with people on the orders of hundreds (less than that most of the time actually), and somehow they can now reliably support a community of 6-10k daily
Dont remind me of that sad time XD
im pretty sure you can? i dont know how but i think if you emailed a dev about it they'll give you a way to donate. they need all of the muns they can get
The weirdest thing with the 2017-8 population surge, is I only once experienced service outages. Somehow I was almost always able to login.
Member login loop day/week
even the website is down? or just me?
All VRChat services are down atm
Service problems. Just gotta wait it out (see #announcements)
pls devs do a miracle
I've never really experienced server outages myself, I guess I've just not been playing when they happen
i mean even if they dont have any profit or anything else they will at least have chatting
with many people around the world
it's wary nice that someone like topper and other games dev's like second life come up with this
and get all of us together
i am wary glad that we are all here
and i wish that it will lasts for 40 years
and after that i don't care what will happen
😃
today i wanted to play after a day of constructing robots but u kno
Everyone do a rain dance to get the servers back up
ok i will do it now
I only been hit by one of these outages before.
Mainly because the times when this shit happens im off doing IRL stuff or working.
But also because my connection is stable, has proper connections thanks to the cloudfare DNS and i can swap between two IP's 🙏
done
weird flex but ok
Login!😂
If VRChat went down for good I would think the devs would make it again. Something new and better taking all they learned from this to make an even better game from the ground up
oooooff
Do the VRChat devs have a patreon or something? It would be nice to support the development of the game.
ooooooooooof
Yo, you guys still getting captchas? or nah?
hey i got in
ok now this is epic
@lunar magnet are you getting captchas? Not sure if you're online. You had them earlier
lets rebuild vrchat why not
why shod they do it when they all got nessessary vrchat codes and why do they want to build everything again from scratch
that's a stupid thing
if we rebuild vrchat together can we use unreal engine
n a h
Independent item creation and inventories and trading when?
just use CryEngine
!online
i mean robo recall was pretty good so ayy
Is the bot even dead?
Unreal Engine isn't necessarily any better for a game like this, mind you. Forward Rendering support is experimental at best, and that is rather important for VR.
i know, was just messing around
i think bot dead
can you log in now?
@winged igloo I do, sadly. Ueu
ah i wish that is so easey but i think that will be almost impossible
because vrchat and other game dev's in order to bring there games or social platforms like vrchat
they shod pay or write aggreamant and the govermant will grant them a licence to do that
it's wary complicated
and i can imagine what dev's was going trough in order to achieve something
correct me if i'm wrong
Unreal engine also makes it was harder for user authored content in the same way that we have currently. @median basalt
-----i declare vrchat as dead-------
Rest in peace... ...for now...
please dont say that
@elfin cloak Why would a private company need to pay a government in order to have a software exist?
It's just unconscious. Anybody know CPVR?
is vrchat safe i notice the servers are online again
are they?
well my guess is
we are all have private home to live in it right?
hello
that wouldn't work considering that the internet is, well the internet. if they don't want to pay a country, they just host it somewhere where they don't have to pay.
It was never not safe, but if you're worried wait for something from #announcements
Anyone else still having the captcha thing? Or its just me left? .-.
maybe my tweet did something
@severe lily oh yeah good point, was about to mention that but the slowmode lol. Unity makes it stupidly easy to just slap stuff together and make it work, the asset bundle and prefab system is a great way to just get an object ingame like this
and because we are live in there we all need to pay taxes for our house
and everything iside it
i think that's on cloudflares side right? I think my friend mentioned an issue
Can't wait to get my default cube in game. That's gonna be hype
Too many polys Xiexe
i cannot wait to redo the shit that i did in vrchat
12 polygons is too much? :(
well i can get on the site now
we can come on again everyone
me too
Why doess ur cube havw 12 polygons
woo
@elfin cloak after reading what you initially said, I think I get what you're trying to say. Correct me if I'm wrong: but are you saying that other platforms such as twitter, facebook, etc should be able to purchase integration into VRChat?
It's a hypercube
@covert linden For them good looking edges
Ooooh
@covert linden because every quad is 2 poly
Hypercubes are great. I keep one in the fridge with the milk.
Well, vrchat doesnt work for me still..
And i still have the captcha bs...
Am sad..
integration?
why
i don't get it
@wanton citrus TEAM can you tell us when to join?
Its the same that the cube needs 2 materials @covert linden
Boy casn you CHILL
I like how he just pinged someone randomly named vrchat
No need to ping them, watch for #announcements @vocal shard
Every quad is two tris, yeah
He didnt even ping someone important, he pinged a user with the NAME vrchat
I can join its work for me but i'm afraid to get banned cause they didn't say its fine to get in vrchat
so... how is everyone doing outside of the ongoing uphill battle with the bugs of vrchat? XD
@rough pulsar how i ping them
Well im pregnant
I was trying to just walk around as a duck and quack on people and then my game crashed
congrats
Whahahahahahahaahttttt
😮 congrats? I hope it's a good thing
@vocal shard They never said it was not fine, but if you're worried wait for something from #announcements
No need to ping them, they'll ping us when things are confimed as fixed.
You don't if you value being on the server lmao
I accidentally started a video call with the user named VRChat. 


@rough pulsar They will say to us in #announcements if it's safe and fine to get in?
Yup
@covert linden 12 polygons for a cube minimum.
A quad is 2 Tris. Cube has 6 quads. Tri = polygon.
oke
I wish people would stop using the word safe. It implies that it's unsafe right now. Which it isn't.
are you sure there’s no hackers yet
Quads are news to me
There's always hackers unfortunately
so what will happen if we go now to vrchat
are code's unstable
and cause some damage to our's pc?
and banners too
No that's not how it works
@nimble linden There was a cloudflare issue earlier that was deemed as a rumor, which is why people are asking if its safe.
ok good
it'll fry your cpu (But in caps)
obviously it’s not safe rn. And let vrchat fix the stuff first
Vrchat is doing the bad boi in this month
There have definitely been issues with cloudflare causing problems with access to vrchat's services. What those problems are is up for debate.
@plush cove It's because of Ricardo
Is riccardo ur houseband?
So im not left alone with the cloudflare/captcha bs? :v
Just didnt know if the whole yknow.. catcha thing was said to be a rumor
@vocal shard Do you still have the captcha problems?
Yeah i do, lol
Uh...
30 second chat check....
it's not a rumor
It's not confirmed as 100% sorted so you may still have issues like that.
As always, keep an eye on #announcements
Aev was asking earier if anyone did, @placid umbra Found someone with the problem like you wanted, terribly sorry if you dont want the ping
They were asking in the busiest chat aha
Cloudflare right now to my IP: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558278191899344898/567804205138444349/2yr1gb.png
Should be clearing up over time now
I wake up and the servers are down again???
Ah okay thought you wantwd to know for like dev reasons idk , sorrysorry
@placid umbra its safe to get in vrchat now?
Welp I guess im a b o t
HoW aM i GoNnA gEt HeAdPaTs
Oh well, i dont mind waiting as long as the cloudflare/captcha thing will be fixed.
Good thing is that its 22:15 for me so i can go sleep anytime normally
@sly nexus Travel to people IRL and get real headpats c:
But I dont have any friends
@vocal shard Youve been told many times, that ill be in #announcements when the game is back up.
@vocal shard @vocal shard @vocal shard @vocal shard
Just keep waiting for #announcements
What if I want to be kanna qwq
@umbral reef head Pat's here please
Y'know, I don't think the question has ever been answered before, is it okay to log in now? 🤔
@median lake yes but the games down atm : P
Some one mentioned that if you logged into vrchat currently, you might get banned??
Ill order one month for @median lake
Oh I was able to log in fine HEADPAT TIME
what do i do now
i spent my life in vrchat man
I'm sure there's at least once person in here who lives close enough to you to give you headpats
The site is up again ayyyye
Yes, it's fine to log in. Check to make sure you've got the most recent patch
Oh it's legit safe now?
i was joking around
We good?
and what about the cloudflare stuff? is anything being done to resolve that on behalf of the vrchat users erroneously flagged?
Legit good ja?
Thank god I woke up just after the serevrs were down uwu
Still working on issues, but it's fine to log in. Will announce when things are looking good again
UWU
I've just loaded up the desktop version of VRChat for the first time; my avatar is constantly walking around in circles, it does respond to keyboard and mouse commands, however the game is also suggesting my start menu ought to be accessed via a controller. Suggestions?
ok AEV
iq level 20
do you havea gamepad plugged in @balmy ingot
You might have a USB controller plugged in
@balmy ingot Unplug any extra gamepads or controllers
@uncut gorge sadly you gott wait or change yur ip
I didn't have a game pad plugged in

yeah, see that's not acceptable Rae, vrchat made that mistake, vrchat should work with cloudflare to resolve it
Also any program that simulates movement/controlls. Be sure that those are for sure turned off
Close any other programs that might be fighting For control over the game pad
So it should be perfectly fine to go on vrchat through steam/oculus as long as we have the current patch from today? Just clarifying before I touch anything.
@balmy ingot Do you have any virtual gamepads, or literally anything that external that input sinto windows? lol
joysticks, etc?
Drawing Tablets also can cause weird stuff like that
Thank you for the suggestions. I'm really puzzled as to what could be simulating this. I do have a gamepad, but it wasn't plugged in--I did plug it in just to test whether it would respond to that.
As far as we have been told its a rumor, and if it remains that wau not much you can do. It takes under 2 weeks to be fixed
Are you saying game pad or joystick drivers may be making this difference?
I wish I could tell you yes theyre going to admit what happened and try to fix it but Im just me and as far as ive heard as a normal person like you, its a rumor
lets pray it fixes
so is it safe to go on vrchat or ? just curious
I still cant get in welp s hi t
@balmy ingot Jup, there have been people in there reporting that specific drivers cause the problem. I never properly looked into it though so dont quote me at all on this though.
Okay I got in game and now it just keeps kicking me to my home world over and over and over again like clockwork
Thanks for the tip none the less, it gives me something else to look into.
Zzzzzz
its load into world, fade to black. Load into world. Fade to black. Load into world. Fade to black.
;3; so...is it..not working yet?
Works for some not for others spicy 30 second slowmode yikers
Sadly I cant even get passed the vrc login screen
so it's like 100% confirmed right now that logging into vrchat will not get me ip banned from cloudflare
more like 99%
never say 100%...free legal advise.
Just like VRChat is not 100% finished :^)
Ya and I got that 1% fuck up.
1% is all it takes
spamming in slow mode? how does that work?
I dont even know
Spamming characters, emojis or caps
All I said was, Welp good bye vrchat reeee
yeah that eeee at the end maybe
such spam
servers still down?
Im just praying this gets fixed, I also feel bad for the people who didnt know about this..
I think that bot might be a teee||(only three e's)||ny bit too aggressive
What exactly is cloudflare?
a service that is meant to protect sites from ddos attacks
And VRChat effectively forced everyone to DDoS themselves... GG wp
a large portion of the internet uses their services, so being flagged by them as malicious can effectively get you blocked from half the internet
pretty much everything that's not microsoft,google, or amazon is using cloudflare
VRC basically turned every client into a ddos box and aimed it at cloudflare (by aiming it at themselves)
Smart move VRPill :^)
Is anyone able to log in? I heard that some people in NA could.
A hilarious accident, but since cloudflare is powering everything...
that lack of an official statement from the vrchat team is the most frustrating part about it to be honest.
@hybrid shell You mean every client into a dos?
^
agreed
They gave multiple "statements"
"were working on it, pls be patient thx" ...
At least getting an actually post in announcements would help with the confusion.
Lol what did vrpill do 
The whole thing is a ddos. Everyone is a node on the network
they're just acting like it's your everyday usual service outage when they should be telling us exactly what the situation is
Yes but you said each client is a ddos which is incorrect.
the situation: they fukked up
No, i said a ddos box.
Welp
If you're going to try and get someone on semantics, quote them properly.
Does it matter, still wrong. :P
we cant really do anything but ask if everything is fixed or whats going to happen to use who was banned without reason
Yes, you are. Now shut your script kiddy mouth, adults are talking.


just... go outside
Never!
if a hermit like me can have fun doing shit unrelated to the internet for 2 weeks you can too
My current understanding*:
Due to a bug in the notification system, every client sent multiple requests over Cloudflare per second which made the system (meant to protect from Distributed Denial of Service attacks) think that every VRChat User is a malicious DDoS-participant, and therefore flagged most of the IPs as untrustful. Also they are "working on it" :/
Does anyone have proof of this with screenshots, videos, anything?
no die
I mean read #user-support-old so many people have complained about being blacklisted from cloudfalre websites etc
It should be cleared up now
maybe just let the vrc team know that your IP got pwned and maybe contact someone from cloudflare? unless everyone who got pwned is also in the clear as of now
I personally can login to vrchat website and probably the game and have been all day i know for sure website works but havent tried the game today since im working on models and aother stuff
Part of the blame is on cloudflare's part. Their system should be robust enough to notice "hey all these "attacks" are coming from vrchat clients" and trigger some sort of manual review that would involve contacting the vrchat team before assuming foul play.
@uncut gorge Not really, Cloudflare was doing it's job.
So most likely alot of people got IP banned?
yeah. they're supposed to be hyper-secure, and giving some companies leeway here and there can let some bad stuff brew when push comes to shove.
Blame cant be on cloud flare. if vrchat's fault for the spamming issue. cloudflare did what they were supposed to do by mitigating what was an attack that vrchat did to its self
a DDoS coming from an established company's piece of software is not a typical situation and therefore should not be dealt with in the typical, fully automatic manner
I was able to get on using a VPN service. I would use it until VRChat fixes the cloudflare issue
Cloudflare doesnt care where the attacks come from, it has to protect no matter what
Otherwise, if a companies network get hi-jacked, they wouldnt do anything about it until its too late
Yes thats how all my friends got on
Lemme just imitate some software oh boy I have free access to DDoS anything.
Alot of them were using VPN
It should. Let's say they all came from the fortnite client. Would it not be prudent of Cloudflare to contact the publisher of such a prolific piece of software as their continued distribution of software that was enabling a huge DDoS attack is a giant security risk and treating the cause of it rather than the symptom is the smarter thing to do?
you should be using a vpn in the first place
Vpn is pointless
What is causing me to be kicked to my home every ten seconds?
Where the DDoS is coming from is pretty damn important and cloudflare should care about it, if only to verify whether it's a legitimate attack or an inoccuous bug that the publisher needs to fix
vrchat servers.
Is vrchat working?
I had to use a VPN to play too earlier, infinite "LOADING...' screen when launching VRChat.
Art its probably safer if you just log off @misty root
i made it in @dull shell
Does anyone know if the issue has currently been resolved?
Oof
One of my friends in NA was able to login, is this mostly a problem outside of NA?
I dont think VRChat Inc. has enough resources (financial or human) to handle their server structures as well as giants like Steam or Blizzard so be a little understanding that these problems will happen :P
So right now its like a 70% chance most people of vrc got IP banned?
im also in NA so i cannot say
Vrchat just make a Vrchat part 2 lololololol
Vpns are NOT pointless
My opnion they are. now if you have something to hide or dont have ascess to certain things then i under stand the point of it
Well, you and your information are vulnerable at ALL times when you use ANY device connected to a WAN
Rhey protect you from dos / ddos in vrchat and wouldve saved many from the cloudflare issue. I really only use mine though when Im at school and discords banned
and iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii will aaaalwaaays love youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
That’s a big promise
oh, looks like I can play now c:
even with a vpn information is vulnerable. casue you still are sending the information to that vpn then back out to the other server(the website your visiting)
Emosalad is a great username
💜
@harsh star Gasp you are safe 😄
its more safe in a public environment yes. but at home behind a locked and secure network no only thing it does is protect ddos
Why would anyone ever spent resources on DDoSing a single person? Thats just a waste tbh
hehehe
sadly not me lololol still cant get in
@brittle jolt you are asking the wrong question
I agree. ive had people try and ddos me but i hvae a great firewall and router set up that just blocks them
But thats also becuase i have 6 servers with public ip's for testing etc
Or you could just go outside enjoy the sun and maybe get some ice cream :^)
Is it still broke
@brittle jolt why not both? 🤷
@brittle jolt But it's rainning outside 😦
@neon flume I think walking outside with a VR Headset is against the Health and Safety regulations :^)
I mean the best thing i would say to people is play another game until its announced as fixed. and i wish it was raining here
And you're not on the pavement naked soaking the rain up? What's wrong with kids these days
Tell that to the people in Ready Player One 😆
I dont know about being naked
Honeslty im just gonna be playing beat saber while waiting lolol
It's when you take off all your clothes. I hope that clears things up @minor bramble
yeah I think I'll be beating my saber tonight too
is vrchat legit broken
Is going naked in public the new trend now??
lmao what. and i mean not being nake in the rain, but playing in the rain sounds fun even as a 23 year old tbh
❤
why do i keep getting pings that the game is screwed
Well...kind of
🔩
where did that come from and why is the limit 30 seconds
because people are freaking out and cant calm down Pepega
Its typical for the slomode
Because everyone's losing there heads tthat the games down in some regions and cant read announcements
Is the issue mainly a desktop issue? I keep hearing people that use desktop mention the issue more than others.
No just rhe game is mostly desktop users lol
^
Oh, well true.
Correlation and Causation for Dummies
Someone named UNGANSTA (with circles around the letters) just hacked my router and stopped my net for a minute.
Panic
That was pretty ungangsta of him
People suck tbh.
Successor of Unabomber.
Now's a great time to catch up on your steam backlogs btw.
Sure he didn't just ddos you?
But change the password, it was likely the default (if he really did manage) or an old model with a known backdoor (you can basically Google these)
That would be really weird if someone hacked your router unless they are on your own network?
For some routers, you can just set a specific browser agent and connect to them. I don't know if it checks to see ifthey're on the same network first
every router ive ever had and played with both consumer and enterprise only allows local connections
I realized that most of the knowledge I had on hacking things was rapidly getting outdated and kind of stopped reading up on it
Maybe it takes more than an average scriptkiddy then
Average
unless routed to allow connections through a specific Proxy that requires i forget what the progam is called but i needed to use it alot for my sevrers when i colocated
Hacking is getting easy, you can find tutorials on everything, as well as lots of tools
Now I will now go back into hiding for another month
i would say hacking is getting both harder and easier
"Professionals" are dumbfucks. A whole range of routers let anyone in if they changed their user agent to "Noel backdoor" spelled backwards
2 step verification and other securities are becoming alot more mainstream but on the other hand not many people are using them
Companies want to make it easy for customers to do anything, and with that, they sacrifice security
Hacking =/= scripting.
Changing your user agent takes a regular browser addon. Hacking is basically "Accessing something without permission"
scripting couldn't even be considered hacking unless your manipulating packets with something you scripted
A lot of German politicans were hacked, which shows that it's possible to pick a single person and just hack into everything they've got (As opposed to scanning 1000 networks and finding the weakest one) it's scary
Implying politicans are a staple of how to secure yourself lmao
My unlocked laptop is more safe then most of there stuff because i just encrypt all my important files with a password from windows.
They're not, but if you can target 200 politicans and get the contacts of most of them... It's too easy
But it does imply that they are never tought any form of security
But this is relevant for #general-media , not this channel.
True
to keep from getting hacked keep your home network closed and dont download anything sketchy
But doesn't it show that if somebody wants to target you specifically, it would likely be easy for them?
Yep im leaving the discord. Average of 12 pings per months
Ezreal, is that you?
Yep
you can supress pings
Long time no see! Doing well?
jeezus these problems with this game...just today
Rightclick server, notifications -> "Suppress everyone and here pings"
Yeah I know. Just really tired xD
thank
I wanne complain about stuff. You guys got anything to complain about?
Discord
Thanks @minor bramble I know im good looking
Another server, I muted a channel, then suppressed all pings, then muted announcements... But I still get a specific ping from that every every time
Muted the whole server but it didn't help. You'd think something like this would be easy to program
Thankies @tacit plank But no, it is not default. It is an old NETGEAR, at least old by today's standards I am sure.
i personally never get pings unless someone specifically pings me
If it's really old, it might be insecure. If it's new, then only GCHQ has access lol
Pings work for me, for any server but that one I complained about
I just disable pings for every server i go to. because they annoy me
whish it wouldnt ping when somone mentions me but Do not disturb helps with that
I mostly suppress everything but direct pings
Im the kind of person that's gonna ignore direct pings unless im helping the person
but i also just ignore people unless i feel social like today
somebody else also has problems uploading when you are in the upload screen your avatar id is gone
Most pings are answers to questions I've put in some channel and forgotten about, so I appreciate them. I very rarely get pinged without good reason
If anyone wants to join me, I'm in Kareoke Central! (the number is 60857, it has the most people)
nvm
Sometimes the avatar id takes a bit to load. But even if it disappears, you should be able to upload (It will just upload as new rather than overwriting)
how do i update vrchat?
this shit is seriously fucking pissing me off. i literally cant upload jack shit to this fucking game right now because i made a damn typo in the name. when i tried to fix the typo, it didnt fix. i deleted the world, and now ANYTHING i upload gets that name with the fucking typo in it and i cant change it.
literaly CAN NOT CHANGE THE NAME of my world. what in the actual fuck is wrong with this shit.
Clear the stored world ID
tryna reupload but wouldnt let me
so now it's safe to log in vrchat?
Lol send an email about it then
Check for errors in the console and email the support #vrchat-support
@modern sand how do i update vrchat?
id say its not safe to upload to vr chat, play vr chat, or even look at vr chat at this point.
thats the nature of vr chat
i meant
when i try to upload my avatar id is gone so
Is it safe to play now? i'm talking about the cloudflare thing
Pressed the "renew" button? Also check the console for errors
Why should it be unsafe because cloudflare goes down? There's 4.6k players online right now, things are fine.
cant even go on vrc giving the infinite loading loop all the time
Also did you guys download sketchy Unity packages from that third party site which breaks VRChat ToS? In that case, you can only really blame yourself if something breaks
because some people were saying that
@blazing anchor VRChat is like Quantum Mechanics
nope
so I'm questioning it
It's safe, don't worry
@brittle jolt impossible to understand?
You just look at it and it gets unstable
can i get a warm and heartfelt hello from any vrcstaff it's so quiet and formal :(
is it safe now to login vrc ?
they have issues every freakin week on this game
i blame shotty code.
yep
...you don’t have to play it.
yeah i know but when we want to shit breaks
well right now im not. because i cant fucking upload shit without it getting a fucked up name from a previous project
Read the console log?
gives no critical errors
If you're so much better at coding then you should be able to figure out what's wrong and document it so that they can fix it matthew.
What did you even name it for it to break like this?
^
Well you cant directly look at VRChats code so...you could only try to recreate it and make a better version
And is VRChat broken, or is your Unity broken? Most Unity packages come with weird scripts
Is VRChat professional though? Since it's free I see no revenue or income thus eliminating that title from the staff team?
lol dont say you cant because i know you can
They typically don’t look at other people’s advice
at least for the client
You can look at it no problem. The SDK is saved as plaintext. The rest is a little harder to look at, but still easy. You're not allowed to though
I meant the Unity log though..
ok so after an hour of getting file records its uploading
I think an hour was over exaggerated
yeah im just saying lmao
Ok I'm not good at taking jokes lol
XD
The servers were down for a bit an hour ago, should have restarted the upload
I think VRC existing in itself is a miracle given all the copyright stuff. That being said RIP EU VRC lol
Ikr
I'll get a VPN if I must, I need my headpats!
All the copyrighted songs on avatars and junk
Fuck the EU. They want to ban lolicon too. Can't they leave us alone?
I understand why they want to ban lolicon but at the same time banning drawings is kind of ridicolous
I have a VPN and ip spoofer idk about getting on vrc still though
Go add another 100 regulations to pillows or something instead, EU
@vocal shard depends on how your country implements the law really
Yeah
If there's no victim, there's no crime. What they're doing is just banning art that they dislike because they want to show the world how good they are
this a gray zone i'm afraid i'm not getting into especially in here <.<
Politics talk is not allowed, yeah, but it's relevant this time. I wonder if VRChat will have to do anything
They definately will. I asked them already through e-mail and they have no comment so far.
Wouldn't they have already done it?
No, because the law implementations take up to 2 years
VRC will be censored in whole of EU. that'd be their easiest option
That'd butcher the population
Or did you mean the art? Half the avatars in VRChat are young. Nothing sexual about them, but that doesn't stop retards from complaining (and getting media coverage)
Hence why article 17 is bullshit lmao
can someone explain why im still not loading in
Try restarting VRChat and logging in again every few minutes, you should get in soonish, even if there's server problems
safe to do that now? thanks for the heads up
Hello
It's crazy when you've been working on a large complex world for weeks and you're use to everything taking a while, baking lighting, uploading etc then you start a new world that isn't even at 20mbs yet and everything happens in minutes haha
I don't have the patience nor time to make my own worlds / avatars, hence why I do commissions
just takes some playing with
I've dabbled with avatar frankensteining etc but really.. I'd rather just dump 200€ on an avatar that's well made and unique
Not for me, I don't care for 3d modeling / unity outside of VRC.
feelsbad
im in it for the knowledge
I enjoy learning new things so I got suckered into modeling very quickly
Same, though I have other things to learn on my priority list of things I want to learn
¯_(ツ)_/¯
you have a list? huh
My screen is still loading
understandable. it isn't for everyone
I just learn new things when I want to
nvm
Oof. with 12 hours shifts you don't really have that freedom 💤
did you get in @vocal shard ?
yes
lucky
I guess. I work 9 hours a day not counting weekends. guess I just make time.
Yea I have a busy schedule on my freetime as well. Just how I prioritize my time
4 hours a day isn't much time to work with a day, no matter really what you do. excluding weekends
still cant open vrc :/
oof
... Nani?
I still cant get on
Were you experiencing Cloudflare CAPTCHAs popping up in websites?
no
That's weird..
@dense matrix what message does vrchat display when trying to connect
vrchat general is general
@final vale if you look in user support I just get stuck in loading when I start the game
and I did get the Hi I am an announcement thing last night
Placeholder announcement. Doesn't mean anything malicious as it's only a result of the loading screen not loading in properly.
i wonder why I get stuck in the loading screen though
does anyone know how to get verified so i can upload an avatar on unity
Hmm. I would assume that it's related to Cloudflare CAPTCHAs and put it there.
You think they'd change it to "This is a placeholder message" lol
how do I fix it?
That's something out of your power, unfortunately.
It could've been better had people known not to log on the game two days ago
Get a new IP or wait til cloudflare fixes things on their end
Or that
Explaining why would admit fault. The devs don't do that lol
I'm guessing that's why they've avoided explaining what's happening
Great game telling your clients don’t get on or you might get banned
I mean they're not banned
How long would this last? Till we can fully play again
No one knows the answer to that question any time it's asked.
Can't think of a single time lol
huff
Is it like VRchat trying new things and it’s being buggy or is it like everything is crashing down all of a sudden
seems like every time its fixed, a whole new problem shows up
i'm still holding myself onto the oculus quest conspiracy until they reveal what's really happening..
the uh, the what now
I’m just hoping I don’t get banned when I’m not even online
i made a conspiracy consisting of the oculus quest. ever since they introduced it, servers have been iffy and as we all know, they're sharded from the "normal" vrc. this is my conspiracy and i have no proof but it's what i will believe until the tea is spilled.
early access, of course there's going to be issues.
Why would you get banned? Who mentioned being banned besides you?
Lol servers have been iffy long before quest. That's an esy conspiracy to smash.
go on. 
That's it. Servers have been iffy since the 2017 update.
We get stuff like this all the time.
Normal every-day chaos
i don't remember a royal fuck up like this happening but, yes. i'm still holding myself onto the conspiracy.
Normal every day entertainment
Uhhh what? We've had the servers literally go down to like triple digit players at least 3 times in the last 6 months.
Some time in December there was a pretty big one
Okay, but whenever did they manage to get their own players essentially DDOS their own servers? Servers being down or not, this isn't just a "oh yea servers went down lmao hold on.."
@dense matrix then if u stuck in loading its not the servers
I still find that harder to believe than a sharding system between normal users and oculus quest. I remain unconvinced.
Server related issues aren't new at all lol yes this is the worst one but your claim wasnt that this was the worst, it was that servers have been iffy since Quest intro despite it being long before that.
You realize it's very similar to how betas and older versions of the client work right?
It's just another client that's able to connect to the game.
No I can quite comfortably say I'm talking out of my own ass atm but I still remain unconvinced.
Oh well as long as you know I guess
isn't ignorance generally what causes the dumbest conspiracies?

oi
oi
something to thing about, people complaining about poly limits everywhere, Marvels: Spider-Man, state of the art character model, the model used in cinematics has 90k polys, the one you use while playing has 5.166
Lol, why? I bet even a gameboy can handle more
Don't care, still getting an HTC Vive.
I mean spiderman isn't exactly the most complicated model...
Just a dude swinging round in a gimp suit
I'll never be able to see Spiderman the same way ever again
...lol that shoulda been a spoiler
"Man in gimp suit, shoots sticky white stuff, stops robbery..."

Oof. Don’t ruin my childhood.
Talk about taking out of context to a new level
I'm sorry for ruining childhood...
anyway, goodnight fellas.
Reacts with goodbye 👋
yo, anyone else unable to login still?
!online
There are 5187 users in VRChat currently
well i watch some video with friends and suddenly my screen goes black and vrchat crash how marvelous
😦
Am I good boy.
try harder
i think not
Sad
sorry
😦 big cri
Yeet
Why the doom and gloom
so is it just my internet making vrchat laggy or is vrchat still playing up?
That sad moment when you spent 20 minutes troubleshooting something and it all came down to a darn capital letter.. .-.
feelsbad
A friend of me told me if we log into vrc we could get banned
is that still a thing..?
@civic frigate nope
Never was a thing.
Ooo, that's what some people were saying. worrisome lol
how long does it take to get User(green) status? i've been playing for weeks
Yes
Serious answer time, there is no set in stone time for this kind of thing
Just keep playing and don't worry about it
hm.......
the big factor in that is hours along it being based off uploads once you get the option to of course
well i am on blue status(new user) would i rank up if i start creating content immediately?
It will accelerate it
yeah
so its not instant, but rather progressive
since i dont know how to make stuff i had to get my rank through sheer hours
ouch....
@inland acorn so if you say you got your rank through sheer hours, does this mean that i am already ranking up? just very very slow?
growing i should say
I could upload avatars after an hour of tutorials, and that was when it was harder, you can do it
well i hope its that easy....
its verys
You'll get ranking for hours (barely anything), friends with high ranks (if you delete them, you will lose that bonus), and uploading content (avatars and worlds)
The specifics are secret though. I'm fairly sure on the above info as I've seen all my friends slowly get trusted rank, but officially the system is completely unknown/secret
so making friends with trusted users could help too? sounds abit off...but it makes a little sense
Yeah. Not instantly, your ranking is delayed a bit to make it harder to game it
I don't know if it counts more when they add you (rather than you adding them) it's speculation on my part
oh...i guess people have their own speculations and theories then
I got the highest possible rank (only visible on the API) over 1000 hours of playing ago, if that makes my guess seem any more valid
so you must be a veteran then...i suppose i can't expect to rank up that fast in a year
It really depends on your schedule like if you don’t have a job and then you have all day every day to spend on VR chat and you can rank up a lot faster but if you have other things to do in your during your day then it’s gonna take a lot longer
i'm actually free everyday! hehe
LOL so am I making content also increases that
alrighty i'll take everyones word for it and make content this weekend
Yeah it totally increases the rate at which you rank up
is it extremely fast? or just fast-ish?
Well I became known user at 300+ hours so at that time I only had like 10 avatars made no worlds
wow....
@shrewd crow wait so if you haven't made any worlds, where do you place your avatars?
I've uploaded over 160 avatars now
vrchat still having issues
When I make avatars it goes straight from unity on to my account into my personal section of avatars once you make an avatar it opens up a new section that wasn’t there before or only to select from entirely different list of avatar is that you’ve personally made
are the slots for personal infinite?
Yes and no I’veHeard of issues where my friends couldn’t upload avatars after a certain amount because it had deleted them so I’m not sure I haven’t hit that point yet I’ve also heard other issues where this guy couldn’t scroll because he had made like over 1000 avatars or something
jesus crackers....hm....that definitely sounds buggy
Yeah it really depends on how active you are with creating avatars but I wouldn’t worry too much about it
You can only see 100 avatars at a time, divided into two pages
After that you can only see the first 50 and the latest 50
OK so that’s what my friend was talking about
oh that makes sense.....wouldn't want a laggy ui
It might bug out further as you upload more
Yeah
is vrchat fixed
@vocal shard yes apparently
still at loading screen lol
If it doesn't login, just restart it. I don't think staying on that screen is any help
did that four times
This might be unrelated, but try going to a site online which uses Cloudflare, and see if it gives you a captcha
it gives me a captcha
nothing works
Doing past server outages (2 days ago?) the client would send too many requests, which might have gotten some people blacklisted from Cloudflare which VRChat uses. I don't know anything specific though
I just sat down and played VRChat for the first time ever, for more than a few minutes at a time. All I have to say is... what an experience.
,
@rugged orbit does that mean you like it? @vocal shard try restarting your modem
yeah I like it, just... wow
enjoy it!~ its more amazing with a vrheadset
Anyone happen to know fix for the issue: I can hear myself speaking and lipsync doesn't work on avatars
that could be a mic sensitivity problem, when my avatar lips doesn't sync i just blow my mic to restore their lips(to close it)
What's the point of VRChat? There isn't really much to do aside from socalizing and talking to people.
same as this person, I don't hear myself when loading avatar
but when avatar is loaded, I can hear myself again
it could be how vrchat is made, but not sure....
Ever had a girl get so excited she unironically starts making buzzsaw noises?
@spare sluice the point of vrchat(in my perspective) is to interact with others using your voice. You can be cringy, silly, memey and all other things, just be sure you don't violate the rules.
i do have my other dreams for vrchat and that is to create my dream world and become popular-ish or a well known user
This sucks, I only have this issue on laptop
@runic hound i'd suggest testing it on an actual desktop just to double check things for sure
oh wait so you're hearing yourself?
Yes that's the issue, I can hear myself and lipsync doesn't seem to activate on avatars
you want to right click and open sounds in your windows sound icon, bottom right of your task bar. @runic hound
Mic icon lights up so not sure if others can hear me but
I have noticed an odd bug at times where I can hear myself for a split second when there's an heavy amount of lag, usually relating to avatar switching, but never beyond 0.1 seconds of it or such.
I'd recommend you follow the steps at #vrchat-support , and contact the support team to see if they can help
Already checked that the Listen to source etc. is unchecked
You go into recording tab and double click the mic icon. Then go into Listen tab and uncheck "Listen to this device" @runic hound
oof, then i can only assume that another source is receiving your voice.
Okay its working now but its lagging lol
you have to check, apply, then uncheck
yeah you would want to make sure to disable other mics icon as well and only use 1 as default communication making sure its working as well
Just tried Discord and can't hear myself there so definitely issue in VRC, weird
@runic hound check the mic output and input in-game perhaps
Done all the basic stuff..
sorry i couldn't be more helpful, but its definitely something right infront of you
Mm, maybe audio driver since this is Bootcamp Windows 10 is throwing a fit
I would again recommend contacting the support team if you haven't, this sounds like a rather strange bug.
yeah double check your windows audio
still cant rename my world to fix a fucking typo
i try to rename it, noting happens. i upload it with a different id, same name. theres like nothing i can do.
Ask in #world-development if you haven't already, if no one there can help out, email support@vrchat.com
Should of made sure everything was spelled right
Okay so VRChat didn''t load for me at all.. stuck on the logo spinning screen
Went to the vrchat website and it asks me are you human check.. Hopefully that fixes it.. :/ odd though.
same
Yeah, it's doing that right now.
crash?
Dunno
Getting spinning logo of death.. please fix. Ty
Trying to load back in. I see spinning logo.
it ain't letting me in mate this is annoying
.
@wraith tangle I know how you feel bro
F
Welp
my god was trying to take some pictures and its down again UGHHH
9 minutes of spinning logo
cloudflare is trsh use someone else
is it just me or vrchat's just leaving me in a loading screen?
spinning logo.
Can't change worlds, portals dropped do not load ^^;;
oh great the connection api poofed again i assume
im Australian and im having these bloody issues
East coast America. Can't log in
cant too

Its loading Home and its not working to log in
its looping and its black screen for me
Tupper. Come to us buddy.
fun
now its Logging in as My name
ugh time to jug some wine and go to bed alone and cry
looping my login
@shell marsh let's take shots together
every time the logo spins take a shot
fuck i would be plastered
great time to appreciate the vrchat logo
i can play just fine--minus the random home sending. other than that, smooth for me.
Hopefully I can play when I get home from work in 12 hours
im sure youll be fine by then
Should be good 🙂
servers are fucked again
Round 2: FIGHT
so thats a bad look...was spinning at loading screen every time i tried to launch the game, would never work. so i booted up my vpn and it worked first try...the implications of that...yikes
isn't there a VRChat cloudflare Dneial of service bug?
There was, kind of. It was fixed in the newest update according to the canny
ugh... FML I don't have a VPN to work around it, how can I work around it?
So I'm stuck on the vrc loading screen...
Servers are good just you guys have stucked cause you didn't patient and you used a vpn
Can try to renew your IP address with your provider
I don’t use a VPN it’s a cloud flare issue
no VPN here
Same. Can't even upload to vrchat
So the American servers are down? :/
cloudfare asks for captcha, tha'ts what's blocking people from logging in
That's more likely
yes cloudflare is asking me for a captcha
because you can't see it in vrchat.
god damn it this is ridiculous how long until it clears up?
captcha
I tried the website itself and oof... yep, chaptcha
demanding people to get a new IP is asinine
who the fuck uses captcha nowadays
who the fuck releases an update to a game with a DoS bug in it
sites that are ususally targetted by ddoes
that's what I want to know
Due to the nature of the issue, I don't think a VPN would help all that much other then being a very temporary solution.