literally look at the chats here and figure it out glacias lol
#vrchat-general-2
steep turret
queen mango
Aside from the loading screen icon, everything else is a skybox
fleet raven
Thank you very much!
queen mango
steep turret
got em
frank lichen
true tho
stable pilot
it's ok wanna hangout once vrc servers r fixed
desert stratus
im down for a vrc stability partyy
stable pilot
aren't we all
desert stratus
of course
viscid crow
hello
vocal shard
Hmmmm
vivid halo
Meh, I'm probably gonna lose the fight because in the other group there is, Lupus Arcum, Mr.Brunswick, VR Kisu, Grimm, TapeDex, and some others
vocal shard
gloomy remnant
i keep loading into the same world over and over again, despite me not clicking anything. im just afk and screen goes black and loads me in again
steep turret
why are u having a virtual reality gang fight
vivid halo
Idk
steep turret
solid answer
vivid halo
I want to
brittle jolt
I mean its a social game...ofcourse youre gonna have "gang fights". Humanity in a nutshell.
steep turret
doesn't make it sound any more meaningful, lol
brittle jolt
I guess humanity isnt very meaningful then :^)
queen mango
Desktop user gang fights, I presume?
Can't hurt each other without physical contact or arms
steep turret
so it's not even a fight lmfao
craggy lagoon
grizzled cloak
desktop users fight with crashers and hack clients
tulip wave
I am looking for friends you people should add me: Swurx
twin cove
So my game crashed and when I went back on, one of the announcements said something pretty much like ''HELLO, I AM AN ANOUNCEMENT FNSAFNASKNFAKFNAK''
static tendon
fix the hacker issue bruh i got banned for 3 minutes by a client user this is stupid now for talking to someone
languid beacon
You raise a good point I’ve never seen a person with a crasher who also had vr. It always seems to be desktop users.
static tendon
just taunting us at this point and got crashed like 4 times today with MAX safety on idk how
steep turret
safety doesn't stop crashers btw
languid beacon
The the “This is an announcement” thing is normal. It happens if the screen appears before the text that is supposed to be there is loaded.
steep turret
it just makes the game run smoother
vocal shard
Is it the reason why everyone is crashing today?
static tendon
still gotta fix this like the game is becoming unplayable
im jus tryna make friends
languid beacon
Couldn’t tell you. I never seem to crash.
pastel galleon
I've seen plenty of crashers with vr even
steep turret
if they could "fix" it just like that I'm sure they would
main mirage
i think everyone is just getting crashed rn
viral pumice
... wow.
steep turret
it's not a crasher
viral pumice
Just wow
stable pilot
guess no vrc and chill for me
/shrug
broken cobalt
i found bug in vrc home once u loading in world you join friend gaves you black screen joing person
vocal shard
ive seen that sometimes when i go through portals it goes black
white lake
How much play time do I need to publish avatars?
ivory hollow
Are the servers stable now? Haven't checked since they started acting up a few hours ago
steep turret
no clue. I'd assume not
pearl coral
brisk umbra
she just wanted to sleep
steep turret
let server chan rest
vapid bough
?
brisk umbra
yeah server chan has feelings too
viral pumice
......bedtime for the lot of you. Server-Chan says so
desert stratus
i believe in the vrchat dev team
i heard that apparently they're migrating servers but i've yet to verify this
whatever is going on with server chan, they managed to soup her up to support 10k people very quickly after supporting only like a couple hundred (less so actually) for a long time
they've got this ^ ^
steep turret
server chan is a big strong gal she can handle it
burnt cradle
So is vrc servers still not working?
viral pumice
Server-chan has gone to bed.
burnt cradle
Time to wake server chan up then
burnt cradle
But im bored
brisk umbra
i am taking a little break while server chan sleeps
viral pumice
We’ve only just tucked her in. So careful not to make to much noise
burnt cradle
What in tarnation
steep turret
now I need to to make a vrchat server chan thanks @viral pumice
viral pumice
Hehe, I’d like to see that one. Since I feel somewhat responsible for bringing her up
steep turret
she gonna be thicc and muscular boi
viral pumice
Haha
static tendon
bruh im finna switch teams cause if you cant beat em join em
magic frost
LIPSYNC is not working in my game
what should i do guys?
I tried to re-install but it didnt work
steep turret
is it on your avatar properly
covert linden
Does your mic work ingame?
magic frost
Yes , not even the other persons avatar work for me
steep turret
huh. that's weird.
covert linden
Contact support@vrchat.com
magic frost
Alright , thank uuuu
viral pumice
Hmm 🤔
vocal shard
I am a mute, looking for some friends to hangout. Add me :3 (same name as on discord)
vocal shard
oi oi
viral pumice
Eh?
vocal shard
👋
viral pumice
✌🏻
midnight blaze
um does anyone know how to get that "can't publish avitar" sign off?
viral pumice
Are you already a new user (trust rank)?
midnight blaze
yes
worldly mason
Log in in the VRCHAT SDK settings (or re-log in)
worldly mason
Post a screenshot from the settings window
midnight blaze
sorry it won't let me
midnight blaze
it saids "not yet allowed to publish avatar"
brisk umbra
you need to spend more hours in the game for it to allow you
midnight blaze
...
worldly mason
Is your Steam account connected to VRchat? (On the Website?)
midnight blaze
i'm using unity
midnight blaze
what
worldly mason
You need to link it on VRCHat website.
midnight blaze
how
brisk umbra
you need to make a vrchat account and merge it
worldly mason
^
brisk umbra
i don't know sorry i made my vrchat account before the merge system was a thing
worldly mason
From docs: You can now upgrade a Steam account into a VRChat account, or merge a Steam account into a pre-existing VRChat account! You can find the button to Upgrade Account in your Settings menu, in the bottom right. You will only see this button if you are logged into a Steam account.
More here: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/vrchat-201841
shadow ivy
hey guys
brisk umbra
yo
dim steeple
plucky nebula
Oof servers
vocal shard
Rip
sharp sky
bye bye servers
plucky nebula
Servers got yoiked LUL
hot gulch
Rip.
viral pumice
Server-Chan got tired. She’s sleeping
light pilot
o o f
stone bluff
RIP
vocal shard
so everything just died what the hell
tropic tundra
ok im not the only one
rain gate
dang srvers
vocal shard
im hearing about this new vrchat type game coming up...
apparently much better than this
and i legit forgot the name
steep turret
nice
vocal shard
yeah vrc constantly sending me to my home world, people keep getting randomly frozen, lobbies crashing.
steep turret
it's been like that for a while
green bane
hope vrchat releases something on this...
steep turret
they obviously will in time
viral pumice
Let’s all just keep in mind real quick that it’s late. And the weekend.
steep turret
neither?
static tendon
no
static tendon
ok thanks
midnight blaze
so i logged into my steam account but how do i merge it with VRChat
do i have to download it on steam
green bane
as far as i know you cant merge accounts
covert linden
You can merge them.
Try going onto vrchat. Hit escape and go to settings, should be a merge button somewhere on the bottom
untold sapphire
Having a hard time creating a vrchat account and not the steam one help?
wet tartan
Anything interesting going on? 👀
viral pumice
Nah. Just sleepy server-Chan
inner blade
Still having issues loading worlds... Yay. :/
steep turret
it'll probably be fixed tomorrow sometime
storm forge
VRChat is super laggy all of a sudden, nice
uncut bluff
riiip
red frost
rip
weak frost
gg
cerulean jacinth
rip, logged out here too
thorny bloom
Server failure
red frost
im in
pure sparrow
rip
rare fox
aaaaaa now it's europeans getting kicked
gaunt dagger
yup i died
vocal shard
vrchat servers is caca
mellow parcel
wait just deded?
vocal shard
wait now its working again
plush osprey
servers are stable again?
gloomy remnant
yup, im in at least
tough sorrel
Hii I’m really new to vrchat and I don’t have vrheadset yet but I’d like to make some friends there 
foggy umbra
You'll find some friends just gotta roam around and talk
foggy umbra
Oh it'll be kinda tough then
tough sorrel
Yee especially without headset rn haha
foggy umbra
Yeah being mute without a vr headset is kinda tough
tough sorrel
Ikr haha, someone got sad because I couldn’t give them a highfive ;_;
Is there any worlds people would recommend?
slate verge
@tough sorrel i hang out mostly in the pug sometimes open mic
candid fiber
get good rig 
candid fiber
if you buy that aset no problem
what would be a good mascot for the vrchat oculus quest
vocal shard
my vrchat got deleted from my steam
queen mango
It happens randomly when your computer force-shuts off. You should still be able to reinstall it by opening the app on the Desktop
worthy haven
Hi
tough sorrel
hii
golden panther
tough girder
good morning , can i get some assistance what is the differance between vive 2017 1.0v trackers and vive 2018 2.0v trackerts
weary bison
I believe the 2018 ones have better battery, more reliable tracking and compatibility with lighthouse 2.0 base stations
I haven't personally used the old ones though so I can't say for certain
thorny lark
runic light
sorry to pop in out of nowhere but. does anyone know any worlds with big avatars? i cant seem to find any.
i would. cant tho.
queen mango
@runic light There's probably a few big avatars like the WarHammer Knights in the Novacorp Gaming avatar world
Grey Knight in particular has a hand gesture that turns you into a big tank.
I also heard of a Schwerer Gustav avatar, but I dunno what world it came from
runic light
thanks. ill check it out. kinda looking for more anime ones. but i still apriciate it.
queen mango
grizzled cloak
morning chat
tough sorrel
vocal shard
I played for like 3 hours yesterday and realized afterwards that i had been using my desktop mic the entire time. Ouuuurgh
tough sorrel
oofies
civic plume
well thats sad, im in vrchat for once and the safety system is broken... just .. ugh
vocal shard
Yea my safety settings are supposed to block avatars for just visitors and new users cuz my potato computer cant handle all the people, but for some reason it blocks every avatar but my friends
meager solstice
vocal shard
i have a question. how i can find out that is a ban remove ? send vrchat not a mail ?
@real hare ye im on custom
iron thunder
my christian dad says vr is evil, but I want to prove him wrong. How do I get married to this cow girl in real life so I can show him that I can be a man?
covert linden
w h a t
iron thunder
He'd think it was utter nonsense.
viral pumice
Where’s the beef 🥩?
vocal shard
been a while i never post here
jagged sparrow
vocal shard
rp 🤔
chilly swan
No bug report channel
covert linden
You can do that via canny or email
chilly swan
Ty
fleet ice
does someone know if vrchat is legally secured? i mean by all the music and ripped models, i can not imagine vrchat has the licenses for all that
humble bay
Does anyone know where i can find a public avatar of deku from hero academia, but really really torn up || like after the muscular fight ||
heavy dawn
I mean, they probably rely heavily on safe harbour. Which... isn't so safe anymore?
honest kettle
How long does it take for me to upload my own avatar?
or how long do i need to wait
fleet ice
there is no specific time for that, just play the game and the time will come
umbral reef
@fleet ice Just hosting the content isnt illegal
The second someone tells them 'oi, thats mine' they do have to take it down though.
Its the same reason websites like Imgur, Reddit and Youtube can work.
languid beacon
VRchat runs under the same laws as YouTube. As long as they properly respond to DMCA takedown requests, they are doing everything by the books @fleet ice
fleet ice
i see
languid beacon
When it comes to user submitted content, you are not required to moderate or act as detectives for content so long as you comply with takedown requests when they happen. This is known as safe harbor. Actually, a company isn’t ALLOWED to self-regulate content if they want to be protected by safe harbor laws. Doing so causes those laws to not apply.
As far as copyrighted content in VRChat, every upload has checked “I have the rights to upload this content” and it’s VRC’s understanding that they had the rights to upload it until told otherwise.
fleet ice
but there is no control
languid beacon
There is. If you see content you own on VRC and you do not want it on VRC they will take it down if you file a DMCA.
iron thunder
I was thinking a cool avatar for a mute friend would be one where they could type and then a word bubble would be forced out of their mouth and float away. Is that a thing?
covert linden
Its like the same as littlebigplanet
languid beacon
It’s pretty standard for any kind of user submitted content.
YouTube is the biggest example.
gloomy remnant
poggers i finished my world WIP
fleet ice
this is no control, this is reacting on requests
languid beacon
I guess if you don’t like that you could try changing US law.
vocal shard
thats ez
fleet ice
i dont care about us law, because i dont live there and i also dont care if vrchat get in trouble or not, i was just interested in
languid beacon
But digital copyright laws are pretty universal and really don’t vary much and DMCA is the implementation of a treatie by World Intellectual Property Organization, which is recognized by the UN, so if your country is part of the UN, they are your laws, too.
So I was a bit wrong. If you don’t like it, you can always try changing international copyright law.
rigid crescent
Something tells me a company using millions of dollars from well known companies and investment firm has looked into this lol
languid beacon
Yeah. Just random peeps not understanding how internet content works.
But it’s Steam’s first fairly popular game of this kind so people aren’t used to it
vocal shard
Reggie is now on Twitter. There's a Reggie avatar in VRChat right? right? We need to give him a proper welcome ;)
Twitter
- No advertising of services, games, applications, or similar products unless explicitly approved by administration
bloody hell..
languid beacon
You can grab it via the api, but it’s messy
Actually degree of messy is inversely proportional to how much you love Json
deft girder
https://snep.pw/friends/pmodparser.php this helps you understand the json
deft girder
Snep got awesome tools 😄
indigo yacht
just me or anyone else having problems with vrc when launching it loops in logging in as and dosen't go anywhere from that ?
vocal shard
Did someone see a weird message when logging in too? Is the game being hacked?
umbral reef
Nothing to worry about
Its just the defaul display msg if nothing else loads in
languid beacon
This is normal! It’s just some placeholder text for if the scene loads before the message loads. I have a feeling they will remove it as it’s confusing people and I’ll be sad because it’s funny
steep turret
it's not a hacker thing.
languid beacon
Sadly I think that’s the viral rumor going around
rigid crescent
They should just replace it with "ay this I'd placeholder text fam keep scrollin"
slate verge
hm...i wish my favorite list doesn't bugged out on duplicates....
languid beacon
“Announcement server is asleep post memes”
Yeah mine is doubled too with some fiddling you can unfavorite only one dup but it takes some doing
And it’s easy to lose both
viral pumice
I love the theories peeps come up with
umbral reef
@rigid crescent There is a canny for it.. Hint hint
slate verge
i didn't know we could do that
languid beacon
Oddly enough I have ended up with like 23 out of 16 favorites and they were all functional
umbral reef
A menu button turns green instead of the default blue.
"Its a DDOS and hackers took over everything!"
indigo yacht
i cannot get into game and once i get into home world im unable to join any world or any friend i have uninstalled and reinstalled game 5 times already
slate verge
you should ask that in support, although that usually means its your internet connection
trail swallow
Hey there
grizzled cloak
hey
languid beacon
coral steppe
i think i encountered a person, who can clone avatars, even when you have disabled the button
languid beacon
If the avatar was public they could have just gotten it from the same place you had and it was already favorited. If it’s important other people don’t have the avatar set it to private. Disabling cloning doesn’t gartuntee other people can’t wear it.
coral steppe
I simply mean, the guy looked at me and instantly switched avatar into mine, even though i had the button disabled. Kind of hard to believe that he would have several avatars saved, avatars that looked like the one people were using.
languid beacon
Like I said it’s no garuntee he had to copy you he could have just had the same one. I do that a lot when I see someone wearing something I have favorited.
coral steppe
Possible, but unlikely.
steep turret
it's really not unlikey
hidden lake
If it was a private avatar, that'd be more worrying
coral steppe
Kind of suspicious when someone looks at you and instantly switches into your avatar. I know that there is a possibility of having those saved, but when he does the same action several times and result is the same, in my eyes....a bit worrying.
hidden lake
It wouldn't be too out of the question for someone to have written some kind of client (or even something reading the memory) to find the original author and copy it from there
Assuming it's a public model
I think out of any hack, being able to duplicate public models is the most tame
slate verge
@cold saddle true, you'd think there be more worlds than that available on the list right?
i tried scrolling on the worlds list, it just kinda stops at some point.
coral steppe
Anyway, the name of that fella, who could clone without any issue ::
Saint
beginning of the name and the end has _
languid beacon
The thing is people tend to upload everything public and then disable cloning. This is really going by the honor system. If someone wants to wear a public avatar, they can. If you don’t like that, upload your own private avatars.
Don’t rely on disabling cloning. It only takes one person getting your blueprint and then it spreads virally legitimately from people without cloning disabled.
hidden lake
^^
If you don't want your avatars taken, don't take them from someone else
Upload your own privately
covert linden
People can take them with clients.
languid beacon
@coral steppe I recommend you pretend the disable cloning feature does not exist it’s just there as an honor system, assume that if you are wearing a public avatar, if someone REALLY wants to use that blueprint anyway, they can. Upload things asprivate if you don’t want this to happen.
balmy ingot
Any suggestions for missed-connection type posts?
coral steppe
Thank you
languid beacon
Only a very small percent of VRC users are part of this discord. Best bet is to keep hanging out in the same world, jumping instances.
abstract eagle
You'll probably come across them again at some point. X3 very likely.
How much ram is like the minimum for vrchat?
Just wondering
languid beacon
They recommend 4 gb. No idea what the functional minimum would be. I’m sure you can exist on much less.
abstract eagle
Swet ty!
balmy ingot
@languid beacon thanks 🤞
@abstract eagle very likely! Well that's nice to know
I will remain hopeful 💕
sly nexus
I always note the room number I’m in in case of lost connection
doesnt help when someone you wanted to friend leaves abruptly though
tacit plank
Do I need to use that new labs thingy to make worlds public?
This world is on an older SDK, so that button isn't there..
I finished it months ago but was too lazy to make it public lol
torn nebula
@tacit plank yes. Update your SDK.
sly nexus
Yes, to make a new public world you must go through labs
tawny sable
anyone have any clue what the fucc does this mean
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/566313920554598400/567423060488093700/unknown.png
torn nebula
@tawny sable you appear to have imported two copies of the vrc sdk somehow. Delete both and reimport.
tacit plank
I just updated mine. Closed Unity, deleted vrchat sdk, plugins, and their two meta files. Started Unity, imported the SDK again. Seems to work
idle mason
stoic halo
@coral steppe he couldve just switched to it seeing that you had it lol, i do that sometimes.
Had it favorited likely
?
tawny sable
@torn nebula still same
torn nebula
@tawny sable you deleted the ones under doggofiles too?
tawny sable
i deleted the doggo files all together
@torn nebula http://prntscr.com/ncdn9k
and no im totally not a furry, guys this was a commision, i'm not a furry
torn nebula
And what is the console showing now?
languid beacon
To update your SDK remember to both delete VRCSDK and Plugins folders from your project before importing the new one. Or you will mix files and possibly undefined/unsupportable behavior
(In most cases it will just say you uploaded fine and it just won’t)
tawny sable
the thing i just screnshotted
aaaaaaaahhhh i didnt delete the plugins
plugins comes with SDK, right and I dont have to install it manually, right @languid beacon
languid beacon
Yes it’s part of the package
tawny sable
@languid beacon nope, still fucking same
torn nebula
@tawny sable the console errors might need a unity restart to clear after deleting the files
tawny sable
aaaahhhh
languid beacon
Same exact error?
lavish epoch
Hiiiiii
viral pumice
Hiya
vast wasp
Yay I just got my headset today!
viral pumice
Nice 👍🏻 congrats
vast wasp
Thanks
umbral reef
Congratz
vast wasp
Thx
mighty nest
Patiently waits for index before diving into vr
hidden lake
I got my headset in january
Imagine getting a full vive setup only for valve to release a way better headset months later
mighty nest
It would still work fine for vr tho, plus you could buy the index controllers separately.
hidden lake
i have no issues with the vive's resolution, i'll probably just buy the knuckles
but we'll see. 🤷
if there's enough features announced, i'll consider buying the headset too
no clue how i'd sell my vive off though. i want to keep the base stations and i dont think there's a huge market for a vive and two controllers without tracking
base stations are 135 a pop? really?
mighty nest
Full setup looks to be pricey
I'd imagine a VR cafe or something could make do with incomplete sets
floral coral
Google has given me access to a Kirito MMD model in my “recommended news” pages
Google. You should not give me power you know I will abuse.
hidden lake
Maybe a VR Cafe but that's kinda rare
floral coral
Also mods stop being nerds and lemme use my emotes, I pay $10 a month for this stuff
Jeez.
neon flume
Nitro emotes work in #general-media 🤷
mighty nest
Still hoping for a sub 800 usd index with everything minus fbt
hidden lake
I'm expecting $1000 for the index bundle
They also wanted to price it competitively, so it could totally be sub $800
mighty nest
A grand would make it pretty much the most expensive set
really hope it's not priced like that
hidden lake
Hmmm sorta. Vive pro bundle is actually still more costly
I really hope it'll settle around $600 but that's unrealistic
minor bramble
I hope the index bundle is around 799-850 anymore then that i might keep my oculus for bit
mighty nest
Vive Pro is way over priced
minor bramble
Especially since ive only had my oculus for like 2 months
hidden lake
And I wish it was as easy as ticking a box
lunar shell
HTC is a joke with their Vive Pro Bundle at $1400. I bet they don't even lower it once the Index is out
lunar shell
They are out of their mind.
minor bramble
for me the vive pro bundle is 1,099
lunar shell
There's two bundles, one has all the 2.0 stuff.
slate verge
its possible you could get it for cheaper with connections
lunar shell
The one with the 2.0 controllers and basestations.
minor bramble
My opinsion is the vive needs to go down in price untill that make better controlers
weak lantern
Ran into another crasher but i got his name
queen mango
No witch hunting here
weak lantern
where do i report it?
lunar shell
I got the Vive but will be getting the index controllers so I can actually use finger getures naturally for once.
hidden lake
Honestly I think the vive as is is decently priced, i'd like it to be lower sure but for what you get out of it i'm alright with it
viral pumice
Check #moderation-reports
hidden lake
I'm NOT okay with the price of the individual parts being HUGE. $130 replacements on every part, all of which commonly break.
minor bramble
if you think about it the only plus vive has over oculus is slightly better tracking
lunar shell
Vive Pro HMD for what it is should be 25% less in price and the kit even more
serene tulip
Oi, did something happen to the servers? Cuz I just crashed and I couldn’t log back in
minor bramble
well vive pro has better resolutuion but whos gonna pay 400 more for that
lunar shell
Odyseey Plus has the same resolution and its often on sale for $299.
hidden lake
That's what blows my mind
lunar shell
Plus you get controllers with it.
hidden lake
And if the index is majorly marked up without extra features, I'm gonna look at the odyssey plus and bitch at valve
minor bramble
I just hope index has a higher resolution then the vive pro
queen mango
Ain't that just the HMD itself? I heard the bundle goes for 499
hidden lake
Index has same resolution as vive pro.
lunar shell
I hope so too. There's nothing confirmed though.
hidden lake
I mean unless they change it a month and a half from release, so far it's the same resolution
We saw it from the first leak where they were shown off and we saw it more recently from a developer at valve accidentally showing the specs off
lunar shell
You might be righ but its not confirmed.
languid beacon
Vive pro is kind of becoming the standard resolution. Quest matches it, Index probably will too
Rift S does not
neon flume
:c
languid beacon
If Index does not at least match pro/quest, for me personally, it’s DOA
Rift S is already doa
lunar shell
Agree on the Rift S. It will be one of the lower spec HMDs.
weak lantern
its hard when Vive pro costs about the same as a RTX2080ti
languid beacon
Vive pro is ridiculously overpriced. And any justification it may have had in recouping r&d costs would not apply to Index as lighthouse tracking technology has already been developed now
minor bramble
Honestly if i had money to get a vive pro or a 2080ti i would go 2080ti
lunar shell
Or get a Valve Index and a 2080.
minor bramble
Thats actually what i would probably do
or just keep my 1080 and upgrade my cpu and such and get index
since im still on haswell 5820k
lunar shell
oooh I got a 1080.
hidden lake
i have a 2070, rtx is way overrated
lunar shell
CPU upgrade looks like it's more worth it for the price.
hidden lake
Especially soon with 3rd gen ryzen
minor bramble
yeah the 2070 adn 2080 only brought like a 1-2% perfomance increase to the 1080 and 1080ti
hidden lake
i do 3d work and so i thought any rtx card would improve my renders eventually (because of the denoiser built into it)
i was wrong big time
minor bramble
I dont thing any 3d program will support rtx stuff for a while
lunar shell
Isn't VRchat CPU hungry anyway with so many avatars loading up?
hidden lake
I'm still hoping they do. It would be really nice to have better realtime cycles renderring in blender
It's very CPU hungry, yeah
dire lake
hi
minor bramble
The the reason i want to get the 9900k because i like to run unity, maya and vrchat at the same time lol
dire lake
oki
hidden lake
that's pretty reasonable, make sure you have enough ram for all those bad boys
minor bramble
I have 16 which has been pretty good since im good about saving a opening a blank scene on maya. But when i upgrade i might go up to 64gb again
hidden lake
16 is good for gaming, I'd say 32 would be good for you
I dont see many consumers, even enthusiasts, ever needing 64
But hey if you need it you need it
hidden lake
I'd probably go for just 32 and see how that works
lunar shell
Buy ram now while you can. lol.
hidden lake
Then if I need more, make the jump to 64
minor bramble
IM so happy that you can finally get 32gbs for under 200 bucks again
I know for a while 16 gbs was like 250
hidden lake
I might bump to 24 or 32. I'm noticing sometimes i'm hitting 90% memory usage so i'll probably get some more
minor bramble
With my 2 instances of maya with large scene's and unity open im at 42% rn some how
hidden lake
Usually I run zbrush, blender, and sometimes even substance all at once
minor bramble
I kow my old computer ide run like 3 games at once and all kinds of crap to try and use all 64gbs of ram
indigo yacht
soo anyone else expereincing alot issues with vrc today ? like unable to join others because getting black screen, seeing ''wrong'' avatar on people and other weird things like '' logging in as'' on loop preventing getting into game
minor bramble
Think the highest i got it was 48gbs and that was like after a long night of skyrim modding with like 150 google crhome tabs and all that
But i feel now that im way more into modeling and coding and so on i could actually manage to use that much ram some how
old silo
my computer is good but whenever i go to a world like the great pug i can't move and my game starts dying
old silo
lemme check
hidden lake
And are you using VR?
old silo
yeah
hidden lake
You're running the very minimum spec for VR
hidden lake
For laptops, yep
hidden lake
If you needed help putting together a better PC setup I can try
I've built two PC's and i've budgeted many more out for my pals
old silo
thanks for the offer
though I think I'm gonna stay with this laptop a little longer even if it is minimum
hidden lake
Yeah I getcha, sometimes it's not financially doable to just up and get a new PC
old silo
yeah I think I wanna stick with a proper computer rather than a laptop next time
when you get a laptop you sacrifice a lot for the sake of portability
hidden lake
I got my big boy desktop, and i got a cheapo $200 chromebook for school
old silo
ah okay
I got my gamer laptop and a couple extras bc they're old work computers that aren't used anymore so they were handed down to me
hidden lake
Never been a fan of gamer laptops. They have their market but they seem to prey on people who don't really understand the PC space
hidden lake
There's lots of better options in my opinion. There's definitely a market for them, but I see too many clueless people who simply buy a gamer laptop that's way overpriced just because of portability
old silo
yeah I might actually sell this laptop to pay for a computer because I still have the work laptops that I can use for school
hidden lake
If you got a computer, what would you aim for? What games would you want to play and at what settings?
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queen mango
Big yikes there.
slate verge
well thats the end of them
rough flax
wat
hazy trout
lol
rough flax
N0o0o0o0o I wanted to save it 😦
viral pumice
Lol
slate verge
i believe you aren't supposed to have too many multiple letters in one word like that
queen mango
As quick as he came.
viral pumice
they will be missed.
empty bluff
Can we have report crasher button in report menu?
hidden lake
So far, I don't think there's any way to really identify a crasher
Unless it's in the crash logs somewhere, I don't know if we can actually find out the user behind it
old silo
Sorry for the late response, I mainly just want good FPS with games like Overwatch and Apex, I don't care too much about graphics, more about performance
and ofc VRChat
empty bluff
Last time crasher crashed whole pug except me and 2 more people,so i could report him
hidden lake
That's a rarity
empty bluff
True
hidden lake
Most of the time, we see them by just word of mouth
Firstly I'd like a way to identify the crasher over just skipping to reporting them
empty bluff
To crash them first?😁
vocal shard
wow did anyone else just crash out of a server
prisma stump
well, i just had a big lagspike that atleast wasnt my fault.
so, maaybe the servers havin a bit of a hard time rn
hidden lake
Even so, reporting Crashers doesn't do much since they can always make a new account sadly
Do the crash logs give decent information on how it happened?
winged igloo
Report them, provide logs, every bit of information helps the security team improve their security making it harder for people to develop malicious tools
topaz lance
are crashers still a thing?
hidden lake
Big time
winged igloo
Not nearly as much as they once were
if you use the right safety settings, you'll be fine
hidden lake
Stinks that I have to stifle a lot of creativity of other avatars so I don't crash
vocal shard
Sometimes when I load into VRChat I get the load in with the screen saying Hello im an announcement rdfgiojhfgiojsdijofdsgjiohfdgjirfdijrfijrgijrwegjioergoijerjig
🤔
subtle prawn
Yep, as many others gotten it too. Its normal at this point
winged igloo
It's not a perfect solution, but it works for now. If a higher trust level person is hacking and gets banned, they will need to make a new account but it will have the lowest trust level for the new account
Yeah, that's just a bug thing
vocal shard
oof im in a constant loading
winged igloo
Take screenshots and send an email to moderation@vrchat.com
attach the screenshots and you output log to the email
vocal shard
@vocal shard its not just one person btw its multiple people who do it
winged igloo
If you see people doing this sort of thing, report them, that's the only way this sort of thing can be fixed
winged igloo
There is an account called VRChat, but that is a dev account mainly used for uploading worlds created by VRChat themselves as far as I know
zinc ferry
so earlier me and a bunch of friends got harassed by some guy and we got video of it, if we email it to the vrchat moderation will he be dealt with, and is it easier to do then reporting him in game? cause we did that too.
vocal shard
Yeah but that one is all lowercase, there are 2 other account with the same name VRChat and they are both users and have public avatars.
winged igloo
@zinc ferry send it to moderation@vrchat.com along with any more relevant context/proof
topaz lance
welp that plan is out the window. Found a cool model that somehow had over 700k polys on it
I don't think even decimation could save that thing
brittle hawk
heyy
topaz lance
Hi
brittle hawk
:D
topaz lance
okay found a better model that won't blow up anyone's computer if they look at it
rotund wren
If it doesnt have nekos name on it it should be safe 😱 😉 😉 😉 😉
topaz lance
even if the game let me I still wouldn't upload a 800k poly model lol
winged igloo
Good idea lol
rotund wren
I seen one in the void today 200k polys
Right in front of the mirror. Walked through that thing and my soul lagged and got stuck in it
winged igloo
Yikes
rotund wren
Unity 2017.4.15f1
brazen galleon
I was trying to use a model as a prop in a world, but it ended up having 1k meshes on it and I somehow didn't realize this until I went to test the world, looked at the prop, and instantly hit 11fps. I did not use that model again.
rotund wren
If you used mesh colliders that might of been the reason. Best to use box colliders and if you want something more in the shape just put multiple box colliders in arms/legs etc..
If you ever wanna do it again
brazen galleon
I don't think they did, but that model was horribly optimized anyway. Added noticable load times in all situations on its own, I found a better version that looked justvas good. But man was that a beefy boi.
rotund wren
Lmao damn that's weird must of been some model. I have one world that's using like 11k poly walls because I wanted a lot of detail luckily it's not so performance heavy though
topaz lance
okay new avatar is only 30k polys I think that's a bit more within the acceptable range lol
vocal shard
Anyone here?
I'm having some issues with VRChat. The Steam menu keeps coming up and glitching.
Won't stop lagging.
topaz lance
that sounds like a steamvr bug actually cause every time I close steamvr it opens right back up
vocal shard
Maybe so.
However, every other game works fine on SteamVR so idk tbh.
I did get ddosed the other day by some kid on there lmao but that was a while ago.
subtle prawn
Does it happened after restarting steam applications?
winged igloo
Check the website, if nothing's there, there's no issue. If there are requests there that aren't showing up in game, there are other issues
deep pendant
anyone else having having frame issues in vrchat
steep turret
pretty sure that's everyone who plays this game at one point or another
winged igloo
There are various potential cause of that, from people with badly optimised models, to badly optimised worlds to maybe just having an underpowered PC
deep pendant
i even having bad frames in home
deep pendant
yeah am getting 30 to 40 fps in home
winged igloo
Could be your own avatar that's not optimised well?
covert linden
Or a bad system
winged igloo
It runs smoothly for me when I'm not in a room with people with 50+ dynamic bones, I think it's pretty good
covert linden
Same
deep pendant
i am use the same avatar i been use and this is 1st time i had frames issues
covert linden
Clear your cache perhaps
winged igloo
Yeah
rancid vessel
vrchat finally fixed the desyncing bug in the werewolf targets world for me at least from what i just seen.. It showed everyone just moving like back and forth extremely fast and i was then synced back up with them.
jolly quarry
Is anybody else struggling to sign in? :S i keep getting infinite load screens
topaz lance
don't you love it when unity crashes in the middle of an avatar upload?
gritty nacelle
ok so I'm not the only one that's taking forever to load into vrchat
jolly quarry
ive been trying for like 30 minutes
sly musk
ive had the issue for a while now
gritty nacelle
guess it wasn't meant to be for me to jump on tonight lol
jolly quarry
:(
sly musk
i just tried closing it and reopening it but that has stopped working
pure halo
which channel should I ask about the VRCSDK?
winged igloo
There's the entire Development category
pure halo
Okie dokies, thanks
sly musk
vrchat is fun as hell to play when it works
but the key phrase being "when it works"
vrchat has been broken for me for the past week and none of the solutions vrchat gives have worked
steep turret
it'll get fixed eventually
winged igloo
Some pretty big changes to the inner workings of VRChat were made, it's just a matter of working out the bugs
sly musk
hope they fix it soon because i cant play VRC at all right now
winged igloo
They're working as hard as they can, I can assure that
sly musk
its annoying because vrchat is the one of the only places i can talk to my friends
but i will give it time
viral pumice
👍🏻
hidden lake
I wish those major changes also spent a bit longer on the beta branch before they caused big issues like this
I had to restart VRChat 3 times to get past infinite loading which was a bummer and a bit frustrating
versed hound
Are they aware that effectively nothing is working...
viral pumice
Hi, Luna...they are aware of the issue and actively working on it..yes
But you are welcome to mail support
versed hound
I am not bothered to mail cus it won't do anything...
And it is not an issue like I said almost everything is broken...
covert linden
It will give them awarence
steep turret
lots of complainers these passed few days
versed hound
I can barely log in, max one world loads after that I can only go somewhere elseif I restart it, the worlds and users barely load in the menus if they load at all, when I want to close it to restart it barely responds...
covert linden
Complainers who refuse to try fixes at that shark
This person sounds like they should try some fixes
steep turret
sounds like an issue with your pc being possibly the issue. or, y'know, a bunch of other possibilities that don't include the game.
viral pumice
Could be a few things.
covert linden
@versed hound If youre interested in solving this, you could try clearing your cache, trying whats in #vrchat-support , and lastly restarying your router or tryng out a vpn!
versed hound
Everything else runs fine...
viral pumice
Never hurts to give some things a try.
versed hound
Clearing the cache is not a bad idea...
steep turret
that's why it was suggested
viral pumice
The cache?
covert linden
Yes
Clearing your cache can be a cause of that but its likely a router/vpn provlem
viral pumice
!cleancache
floral flaxBOT
You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them
steep turret
good luck
mystic hound
any of you guys know how long to get to user?
I was kinda surprised because I went from visitor to new user in like 9 hours of ingame time and apparently that's super low
steep turret
I guess you'll have to keep playing and find out
viral pumice
It’s not really a set amount of time. Varies per person based on how you play, yotta yotta
queen mango
Emotes don't work here, Nitro or not.
mystic hound
oh LUL
queen mango
Nor is #vrchat-general-1
steep turret
lmfao
viral pumice
Haha
queen mango
But they do work in #general-media
mystic hound
huh
steep turret
not my dojo
mystic hound
interesting\
steep turret
random chat is a sacred place
viral pumice
My home 🏡
vocal shard
hmm, suddenly can't login or upload through unity
servers down?
i can't login through unity or in game
viral pumice
Server-Chan is getting sleepy.
queen mango
Server's having some pretty hard times.
pine pilot
oh i was just wondering if i was the only one having upload issues
covert linden
@queen mango people are throwing insults in user suppport
vocal shard
i guess if you are in game don't log off
dry canopy
I was getting the "Forbidden" error when selecting "Settings", yeah
vocal shard
yeah, forbidden
torn pelican
I was getting red "?" for pictures.
vocal shard
great i cant load avatars worlds or friends list and tried to log out and clean cache go back in im stuck in a infinte loading screen
true sky
[Always] Could not fetch fresh config file. Using cached if available. when selecting settings
and trying to start vrchat just sits in a login loop
vocal shard
yep :l
true sky
not sure why its throwing a 403 out
covert linden
The servers are taking a nap right now, lean back, glance a tthe stars and wait for an announcement from the staff **
true sky
ill work in unity until then i guess
sly nexus
Is there a way to change the directory that my vrchat cache is located in
sly nexus
Oh is it the servers that are causing the issue? I thought it was because my C: drive only has less than ~20 GB remaining :>
rough flax
Rip servers
viral pumice
Server-Chan is trying to sleep 🤫
rough flax
Server Chan never sleeps
steep turret
server chan needs to sleep
covert linden
thats why shes trying
rough flax
She works 24 hours a day and gets paid nothing
covert linden
She needs a rest but we are all yelling at her
steep turret
I'm just yelling at her to snuggle up in bed and sleep for a good week
covert linden
dont snuggle youre with queenie!
storm stag
strange...
sly nexus
Server chan is paid in electricity!
karmic locust
yo why is player count so low?
covert linden
The servers are down
steep turret
server chan is tryin to flex instead of sleep that's why
sly nexus
Server chan can flex on 70k polygons
steep turret
hell yeah
storm stag
im online
lavish oyster
i still cant get in
covert linden
~ Everyone please remain calm, the servers seem to be having a little fun, lean back and look at the stars. Invest in a business, whatever you'd like. Just hold on while we wait on an announcement from the higher ups! ~
tidal onyx
stop spamming that tho
reef ibex
i am in
lavish oyster
what stars the only stars i know are the ones in that game
viral pumice
⭐️
covert linden
People will hopefully listen. Its either that or 50 more people complaining everythings broken.
viral pumice
🌟
covert linden
And if youd like to be the one explaining to every single one of them because no admin is speaking up, that its down. Be my guest ^^
steep turret
keep spamming people are too dumb to realize anything else lol
vocal shard
it is broken
frank lichen
Servers are down tried to get on but stuck at loading
covert linden
theres a reason user support has been so calm lol
tidal onyx
well not every location has that problem
covert linden
the only that doesnt is random chat..
vocal shard
calm? everybody's complaining in there lol
covert linden
everyone wasnt like 5 seconds ago
vocal shard
Nuisance
lavish oyster
waaahhhhhh my life is ruined
jolly quarry
same
viral pumice
Are we calling names again?
covert linden
I think they got the nuisance roll on vrchat tbh
viral pumice
Haha
steep turret
solid
covert linden
role*. youd be suprised how many come here saying help I got the nuisance roll
rich hare
Guessing everyone else has VRC on the frizz? Logs you out, crash when you hop to a new world? That sort of frizz?
sly nexus
Ive never even seen the nuisance role
steep turret
maybe if we say the servers are down 1 million times people will understand
covert linden
me neither but people come here about it
rich hare
Heh, but few people are stuck in few worlds X3
storm stag
nuisance is lower than a Visitor rank
covert linden
My name is now the solution guys
humble pasture
They're not...
queen mango
@sly nexus The fire.
tidal onyx
someone I met got nuisance for playing music over his mic
humble pasture
Insane
sly nexus
:v
lavish oyster
covert linden
whats not @humble pasture ?
steep turret
rae that was a good idea lol
sly nexus
I think the music was a secondary cause Himiko
rich hare
Alright alright, folks, best to be off VRC for a while until the devs sort/fix this one out
covert linden
It took me too long to think of it
lavish oyster
humble pasture
Nothing wrong chat
covert linden
Ah
lavish oyster
XD
covert linden
been there, accidentally siad I love you to the wrong person.. tabbing problems
tidal onyx
he didn't do anything besides having music running over his mic
sly nexus
But I cant survive 5 minutes without headpats! and its been 6!
tidal onyx
I never get headpats
covert linden
I get pity headpast
sly nexus
I got headpats, and then the tingling started and I cant go without headpats
covert linden
THank yoooooooou
sly nexus
If I had hands I'd headpat myself
covert linden
Usually its because my adhd is bad and im being super hyper and they pat me like.. typical ashs....
covert linden
Wahaaa
sly nexus
oh, Im not from the EU thats why I didnt recognize it
true sky
neither am i, but i have a friend who is in the EU 😦
welp, i can lock up the sdk check for update tool now :/
lavish oyster
hhhheeeelllppp ussss
viral pumice
request denied
true sky
vocal shard
gloomy sequoia
It's saying people are offline that are actually on.
vocal shard
it's saying im a nuisance
true sky
yeah, servers went all 403
vocal shard
called an egirl fat
true sky
@vocal shard guessing that is why
sly nexus
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 2512 users in VRChat currently
gloomy sequoia
Damnit. Some people are still on, whereas I have the worst luck and always get booted when this stuff happens.
true sky
and their friends blocked you
sly nexus
number is going up, but Im stuck outside the gates to Valhalla T~T
viral pumice
Goodnight my peeps. Have fun with...whatever this is
civic frigate
@sly nexus ;-; i feel
sly nexus
server chan is discriminating
vernal coyote
prolly another ddos
civic frigate
When VRC is down and all the vrchatters are in discord singing kumbaya.
true sky
kumbaya
versed hound
This shit is so broken...
queen mango
@civic frigate Kumbaya?
rigid quartz
nani?
true sky
when you have to close unity because the sdk locked the editor when pressing check for updates 😦
on accident
versed hound
This is not the right time for this to be broken...
rigid quartz
Its never the right time my dude.
sly nexus
ItS tHe RiGhT tIMe iF Im aSlEep
versed hound
I am not making a meme and don't call me that...
civic frigate
Lumi. Hand me a marshmellow.
sly nexus
but I never sleep lol
rigid quartz
throws marshmellow
coral ridge
Yo my vrchat is stuck on the opening loading screen and wont sign me in
is this my fault?
sly nexus
The servers are down
cinder parcel
@coral ridge machine broke
cinder citrus
it'll always be the wrong time for someone unfortunately, just give them a little bit, or just try getting back in again
gloomy sequoia
Anyone who got to stay on shows up as Offline.
sly nexus
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 2711 users in VRChat currently
true sky
@coral ridge servers are down
civic frigate
gets hit in the face cause im shit at sports
sly nexus
still going up
coral ridge
okay cause i deleted my vrc folder as this happened
civic frigate
D; Fuck.. my marshmellow
coral ridge
so i was like
rigid quartz
giggles
cinder parcel
Tfw weird cocc deleted vrc
coral ridge
oh shit
cinder parcel
Monka
sly nexus
Does anyone know the way to change your cache directory location?
My D: has 300GB but my C: is on 20GB :>
rigid crescent
symlinking it
civic frigate
Several people are typing.. So many things for people to say. D:
true sky
yes, symbolic links @sly nexus
rigid crescent
otherwise no
rigid quartz
er you cant I believe just make a shortcut of the folder to your desktop
coral ridge
bruh i was in the middle of some dank erp
sly nexus
why would making a shortcut to desktop help my C drive
coral ridge
and my shit goes down
true sky
you will need to know cmd though which there is tutorials how to
versed hound
Why did you delete the potato servers now I can't get support from my friends...
uncut bluff
riip
rigid quartz
so you dont have to click through multi folders just to clear cache
slate verge
i just got booted...ouch...
sly nexus
but
civic frigate
Haha. Clearing cache? what's that
light wedge
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 2835 users in VRChat currently
sly nexus
I just need to make it work where its got more storage available, so Im going to google symlink
vocal shard
stuck in loading screen is vrc down?
true sky
yes
civic frigate
VRC is down, yee.
light wedge
yes
vocal shard
rip
sly nexus
yikes, documentation page for VRChat doesnt wanna load in formatted HTML, just a bunch o text links
wait did user count lower?
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 2937 users in VRChat currently
sly nexus
oh bot desc is just slow
rigid quartz
oh look just a little bit of googling goes a long way
#1: Copy the LocalLow\VRChat directory to where you want the new location to be, Eg. D:\Games\steamapps\common\VRChat\VRChat
#2: Delete the original LocalLow\VRChat directory.
#3: Run command prompt (as admin) and type the following command:
mklink /J C:\Users\Name\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat D:\Games\steamapps\common\VRChat\VRChat
gritty lynx
@coral ridge y i k e s bud
frank plume
Anyone else stuck in the vrchat loading screen?
vocal shard
yea.
sly nexus
Lumi I legit was doing that... no reason to be satirical
civic frigate
Lumi, you're talking nerd again.
coral ridge
@gritty lynx it was a joke chill chill
gritty lynx
I don't believe you
gritty lynx
We've been watching YouTube videos in a video player room xD
rigid quartz
It still no worki worki?
frank plume
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 2983 users in VRChat currently
gritty lynx
Idk. Use this as a good VR break. I'm charging my trackers for a bit and I'll try again after a few DBD matches 🤷
sly nexus
Lumi when did I say it didnt work? I said I was googling it and if I needed help Id ask again
coral ridge
im gonna smoke weed
gritty lynx
That too ^
coral ridge
wait 1 minute
queen mango
coral ridge
can you be banned for doing drugs on vrchat?
rigid quartz
you did say this right?
Vanity™Today at 11:25 PM
Does anyone know the way to change your cache directory location?
My D: has 300GB but my C: is on 20GB :>
queen mango
Umm... I dunno. But that seems a bit like a yikes from me.
gritty lynx
I think the same rules should apply like twitch. If marijuana is legal in your state, you should be able to smoke publicly. Test it out, though @coral ridge
sly nexus
Lumi what is your problem?
Vanity™Today at 9:27 PM
I just need to make it work where its got more storage available, so Im going to google symlink
gritty lynx
Your state isn't legal like mine 😄
coral ridge
wait nyxie
rigid quartz
Just trying to help my dude. No need to get sassy. ❤
coral ridge
you cant get on either right?
stoic halo
@coral ridge clearly not because people get high and drink on vr 🤷
gritty lynx
Nope. Neither can Slob.
coral ridge
is it an infinite launch loading screen too?
uncut bluff
i cant either
gritty lynx
Yuh.
coral ridge
okay cool so im good then
gritty lynx
Mori! 💕
uncut bluff
hi ❤
coral ridge
dude its so cool how we are all friends typing in this public vrchat discord rn
sly nexus
If you wanted to legitimately help, you might want to learn not to be satirical over text. It's easy to assume worse.
coral ridge
its like we are in an anime
gritty lynx
And this is a terrible high school.
uncut bluff
XD weird
gray light
hello all
civic frigate
Vanity, chill bro. He was just trying to help you.
dusk root
woah
coral ridge
yo slob was good
gritty lynx
That shit's 🅱razy
dusk root
wassup
uncut bluff
oh oh its slob hide
cinder parcel
Boi who ttryna smoke
coral ridge
not much abouta hit that 🌴
rigid quartz
Shush, @sly nexus heres a eggplant. 🍆
gritty lynx
Yikes. Mori's fake. You should be excited if the squad pulls up so casually like this.
sly nexus
Zurui all Im saying is that
"LumiToday at 9:29 PM
oh look just a little bit of googling goes a long way"
does not come across as "helpful"
modern sand
#general-media please
civic frigate
He wasn't being satirical. He was being helpful and telling you exactly what to do. You did ask, but next time take it to User-Support. That's where you should take questions. @sly nexus
sly nexus
especially when I already said I was googling it
rigid quartz
giggles
cinder citrus
easy enough to miss messages, just move on everyone.
cinder parcel
default dances
frank lichen
Loading screen is so beautiful to look at for so long. 💕 it’s so beautiful just observing all the letters and black & white colors. I might be in love
valid sandal
Lovely vrc broken once more lol
frank lichen
Vrchat is such a great game. (Sitting for 30min to an hour with loading screen)
vocal shard
love at first sight
gloomy remnant
any1 else also stuck on login screen
valid sandal
Yep
vocal shard
yeah
light saddle
🍿
frank lichen
Nobody:
You wanting to play vrchat for the first time
Loading screen
fallow field
Do you think the loading screen likes me back?
frank lichen
Idk fam, I think it kinda does. Bro, you should ask loading-Chan out
lyric dirge
Yea, there was just a steam vr update, when it updated for me and i tried to re-log in it got stuck on the loading screen
fallow field
Reallllyy?! But she is too good for me
gloomy remnant
every time i try to test my world, vrc dies lmao
frank lichen
Nah bro, you should go ask. She is just dying to date you like holy- she keeps on looking at you so it must be love