#vrchat-general-2
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that could be it
seems weird that a joystick would break vrchat, but i will try
@umbral reef thanks, that fixed it
How do you go about finding the avatar author of a avatar you are currently using?
Only way I logically know how would be to either encounter an identical avatar or allow cloning, having someone clone, then view their avatar author details.
I'm not a huge fan of the full hand posing with valve knuckles
makes me worry too much about what my hand is doing
when I should be concentrating on the experience
π€
also yeah, don't think you can show avatar author for one you have saved
Welp, guess I gotta wait for next update.
I am waiting for vrc to load and I wanna make it go faster
It is being dumb and won't load
is it just me or is anyone elses game feeling like it's getting slower and laggier every time you start it?
not to mention the regular crashes when jumping in a different world
Not noticed that at all. You could try update drivers
Clear your cache?
I guess
last time I updated to the latest GPU drivers VR wouldn't work at all
yeah last driver was released 5 days ago... not gonna touch that
So Valve is jumping on the no-sensors bandwagon as well...
No its suppose to have lighthouses... @languid beacon
@vocal shard righto??
Did they disclose more saying no lighthouses?
the reports I was reading might have been speculating
it definitely has in side out stuff everything else doesnt make sense (you can clearly see 4 cameras in a configuration that makes a lot of sense for IOT)
tho
nothing speaks against having both working together
I hope its got both..
If Lighthouses exist, I wonder if they'll use their own or will support HTC's
If they dont sell oculus anymore literally itll be
Budget options
Or vive?
Vive needs a rival there
Well the rumor is that there still will be a Rift 2 to rival Vive but I doubt it's going to happen
They're doing the apple thing eevee, at least that's what the S implies
Iphone 4, 4S, 5, 5S, 6...
m
Didnt zucc confirm hes no longer aiming for that market and instead a lower budget one or am I wrong? Ive only heard people say that not seen it for.myself
^
Well I haven't worn one so I don't have a legitimate opinion yet
Palmer (co-founder) of Oculus said it wasn't even usable for about 30% to the population
I bought a new rift too
But when it breaks I dont want vive.. I want another spot of competition there
to many is also not good
Nothing is going to replace standard Rift for a while in terms of build quality, they had insane levels of R&D which just isn't ever going to happen again, even for headsets that are better, it's going to show
the development budget for rift was mind boggling
it's no wonder their newer stuff feels cheaper and not as well designed
Thats really sad
M glad I peer pressured all my friends into getting the oculus before it stopped being sold xD
take care of your rift π
They love it so much
Yeah I have mine, ima back it back into a box tonight to keep it safe
I use my acer wmr rigjt now and the tracking is horrible
You've tried the newest headsets adeon ?
There has been way too many times where my hand just got stuck and I couldnt move it and id wave it around in mid air like help help my arms broken!
Ah 
I'm just going by reports
Ruubick what vr do you use?
All of them
I'm still going to buy a Quest, I just have no need to get a S
Which one most frequentlyyy
Rift, more convenient
Ive only got wmr but I dont reccomend it unless its for a laptop
And oculus but I cant use it yet
Also one thing that bugs me.
Almost all revieuws i have seen from the headset go over the information that is clearly been reported before...
Its not like people explain if the mechanical IDP or virtual one is nice. I know 30% of the humans cant use it π€
But what about those who can- What are the changes for users with that π
I know that's the case for S
Yeah thays true but the 30% is a big deal
but does Quest have hardware IPD?
They dont wanna reccomend it, if 30% cant uze it because if the 30% buy it then like-
Ok yes that's bad, if I slide my IPD wrong on Rift my eyes get sore within seconds
I'm at the lovely 66.6mm
The acer wmr doesnt exactly have an ipd you have to get it to the exact rigbt position on your head with the exact amount of tightnezzz on the back band.. do not reccomend
But there is a small group of tech revieuwers i trust and sadly most of those are ones i know IRL.
Because they care about 'small' things and not just how the average day person would use it.
They take that info account but still-
let's just see what the valve index is π
Ipd is just for the eye width not how tight it sits Rae...
you can bet i'm buying that full bundle day one
No I know it's a huge deal. Rift with ipd slider wrong is the difference between playing for 8 hours and playing for 15 minutes and stopping because your eyes need a rest
i've never actually had any ipd problems, no matter the ipd
lowest or highest. but i have seen it be an issue for some people
give me external sensors and ill be happy
dont give me that IOT shit where i cant have my hands in certain places
I like blasting it as high as it can go for the tripply hyper-depth effect, but it hurts my eyes, I feel the strain right away.
Would be smart move to do
Wmr has no ipd
if you can afford external, it's there.
Im saying thats how you make it focus
also for me personally, the correct IPD setting is also the only way to get the screen nice and sharp
I don't know if that's lenses or my own ability to focus
my friends are gonna never hear me shut up about valve index for the next 2 months
knuckles in vrchat, like DUDE
Like many things lately, (Vive Index, VRC support for Quest, Udon) I just need more info in order to get hyped
i wont give a damn about the Valve Index if it doesnt have external sensors
it does
where does it say that
the photo they shared has sensors, might be hard to see if you don't have a high contrast monitor
if a dev could just whipser softly in my ear the magic words "vrc quest has crossplay"
That stuff could also technically just be used for hand tracking instead π
And not controller tracking
a dev on twitter as well shared a pic a few months ago (that we now know its valve index) using the new lighthouses.
i want actual sensors outside so i dont get shitty tracking outside of the camera
look at the teaser then. they're on there.
the tracking dots are on the hmd, same ones as the vive.
i dont use vive lol so i wouldnt know that
they're gonna be using the knuckles which use the lighthouses so I doubt they'd have internal tracking
i think it's gonna be both. people aren't happy with inside out tracking yet fully, i know i wouldnt
Yeah those lenses don't mean inside out tracking, the actual vive has those for passthough
and they wouldnt drop money on sensors on the headset to NOT use them
ehhh passthrough with such large sensors though?
wider fov passthough?
otherwise why are they positioned like eyes
better to position them wider
vive pro has em more like eyes, valve index is very wide
that's very expensive just for passthrough
Again- They cna also be for hand tracking.
Vive has native hand tracking now thanks to a camera (and its not great).
But more camera's could change that... Or well more trackers then really
that too, that'd be really cool. but i prefer knuckles
Well, if it's NOT compatable with vive lighthouses, and it needs it's own, my body trackers will still require the old sensors, and my setup will become ridiculous
Wont be used in gaming but companies might prefer not having extra thigns taht can break or get lost...
nope, all old vive products will work with the new lighthouses
I know my school would love having that to control some demo apps of what Vr can do or to showcase medical things isntead of controllers that can get empty...
Valve isnt vive.
Yes but you cant guanrtee something you dunnp
we've heard of devs and people with lighthouse 2.0 saying they're compatible lmao
Their focus may not be to hybrid it, hybridding itself isnt in the systems its like a mod
Source?
ooooooooh i think thats why i didnt have anyone in my vr chat worlds where ever i went because of the new update
ohhh odd okay i had it the other way around? maybe lighthouse 1.0 supports both
again though, the majority of the funding of the vive was from valve
it's why vive is the headset with the biggest steam VR compatibility from day one, and they've been pumping research into it
Yeah 1.0 lighthouses support more devices than 2.
Yeah its just not 100%, because the way you can do it now is through modding,
but have a limit of 2 per playspace
hopefully they're cheaper to produce
I just want roomscale. My only demand. Ill be having 2 sensor roomscale with ocuous
Well if they bundle index and knuckles as one package, I'm interested. But i need to know the details of the headset, I have a rift already, so I'll really need a resolution/FOV bump to make the upgrade worth it
knuckles alone sells it for me
i haven't had that good of an experience with my vive controllers
Idk man, touch controllers are pretty darn good, knuckles aren't much of an improvement in VRChat at least, if you already have touch controllers
I love oculus controllers
I wanna hook them up to my ps3 so bad tto play spyro with them
yeah oculus controllers seem way better for VR
They are, the wmr controllees are okaay.. I dont suggest them tho
knuckles look basically identicle to touch in terms of quality and immersiveness, at least, if I moved to knuckles, I wouldn't feel like it's a downgrade, unlike switching to vive wands
but just the ability to let go of the controller and have finger tracking
i would easily give up gestures if i got accurate finger tracking with knuckles
curb your expectations a little, it doesn't' have actual finger tracking
if you let go, the only thing it's going to know is you're doing open hand
it's not full finger tracking but it's gonna have better than any controller we got right now and i'm happy about that
like that boneworks gameplay π
Itll work the same as the oculus controllees
Which you can let go of mostly
So unless they make a finger ik which maybe wont be right away, theyll work the same as the oculus ones
It's more accurately termed hand gesture recognition, and it's actually slightly more advanced than Oculus Touch. However, in VRChat, they'll most likely just code feature parity with touch, so you won't do anything extra.
oculus only does forefinger/thumb right?
Oculus has a binary detector for thumb, and two analog triggers, one for index, and one for middle, ring, and pinky in unison
ah, alright
for the thumb it actually knows which face button or thumbstick you're resting your thumb on, but VRChat doesn't use that for anything, it's just thumb up or down
Hi
Well if Valve index works properly with the same sensors as htc body trackers, i'll be happy
if you were crashed via particles, then i would check that out @worthy oracle ^
turning that on disables PlayerLocal on particles
people have modded clients and also use mesh crashers tho
They use everything to crash--
But better be protected against something then nothing.
i also experienced like 3 server wide crashes
like lobby wide
but i couldnt get the name of the guy
i spawned in and crashed, came back and saw barely anyone and the guy instantly bopped people coming through portals
The outputlog includes the name of all users in the lobby. It can make it so you are able to narrow it down.
portals, you can walk backwards and not get sucked in
could someone here please help me out?;3; i start to get super mad about vrchat.
It won't log in and when it logs in somehow, the worlds are not loading. And if one loads by chance, it only shows me one empty room and no other.
Throw up your question and we will help ya
I used to play vrchat alot but that problem just came up for 4 days now
Try the steps in #vrchat-support
If that fails try restarting your router.
can we do voice chat
In the discord, nope
i cant see the notification when my friends inv me but they can see mine. how do i fix it?
You can try doing the steps in #vrchat-support
Valve will release their new headset in exactly 3 years.
hey is anyone else having audio issues when uploading an avatar? Issue posted in avatar optimization.
if anyone knows anything about worlds. I just posted in there and could use some help.
Not seeing any fix for notification thing there
I wonder if the knuckle controller will be in a bundle with a HTC vive and vive pro
It won't it's exclusively to Valve but it's compatible with them
Oh wtf i did test those bad boys why they won't add them in a bundle

Also since I'm getting a HTC vive I wonder if my old pc will run VRChat on 50% resolution
i7-2600 RX 580 8 gb 16 gb ddr3
i7-2600 is on 3.9-4.0 ghz
Where am I looking
~<
@lean wharf I have a 2600k at 4.4ghz, your cpu is your main limitation. Nobody optimizes anything so itβs going to kill your framerste.
@languid beacon Did you not see the announcement for the Valve Index? It's coming May.
It's the same headset the guys leaked back in November of last year
@lean wharf You PC will be able to run the game, but the old CPU will limit you a bit.
Itβs not that itβs a old cpu, itβs just that the game and worlds, and people are so uniptimizied, itβs like 2 of your other games are running at the same time
I'm running an i5-2500k myself, but have it overclocked to 4.6ghz.
It does the job and I've always been able to enjoy the game just fine, but there are times where I need to avoid moving my head too much to avoid feeling the frame rate.
All my other games run just fine. But vrchat always is below 40
Well, it's too old to run the modern CPU instruction sets that Unity 2017 expects, is what I meant.
Lol
Lmao troll post
There's a notable performance gap between CPUs which do and don't have them.
Anyone know what would cause me to be randomly sent back to my home? I'm not getting kicked from the world I just randomly get sent home.
You losing connection to vrc
Multiple people have been having that issue lately. Previously it's been related to very bad ping, though I don't know if that's still the case.
@lean wharf my resolution is usually 50-100 depending on where I am.
If anyone wants to play with me my username is Boyoγ
There's also a side thing to watch out for that I experienced, is that if running your internet via wireless, adding extra trackers can cause interference that can mess with your connection.
Vr is good but failed to reach mainsteam consumers
@ruby burrow I know, I was mostly joking. Though it's important to remember it's coming out in May in Valve Time
Heh, true. I suppose for all we know, May might be the release date for their teaser trailer. :v
Unless we only get more information in May, instead of a full release
Yep, what squishy said
Anyone else have an issue where very specific worlds crash your game?
I'm curious how it's going to compare to the Vive-Pro. In both specs and price.
I can't get into this one world at all. As soon as i load in the client stops responding
gets like 2 seconds and then crashes
Overall, sources have so far cited it as being either equal to or superior to the V-Pro in resolution, and it's said to have a FoV of 135 degrees (vs 110 in existing Rift/Vive).
I believe I read somewhere that it will have 135 but that's completely hearsay
- 135 fov
Making it a prime competitor to the V-Pro. Which makes me wonder about the price.
That and valve is developing new VR games so maybe there will be a package deal around $500-$600?
That's my really optimistic price point guess
That seems a slightly optimistic price to me, though who can say really.
WMR headsets have been putting out very nearly V-Pro resolutions for only $200 already, and how much does a larger lens cost anyway?
So it's perhaps possible.
I didn't do my research when I bought my system, and I thought the rift was capable of FBT. So I'm waiting with bated breath to see what comes out this year before I try and fix my mistake
Always an ouch, when something like that happens.
I'd been following VR with interest since the first Rift dev kits went out.
Was seeing the motion controllers when Vive debuted that convinced me it was worth having.
The knuckles seem really promising
So maybe I just end up with a Frankenstein valve controllers, rift headset, and Vive FBT. Goodbye, USB ports.
Mhmm. My opinion of them recently changed from "cool and interesting" to "need", when seeing the Boneworks demo from Stress-Level-Zero games.
I'd been entirely underestimating the significance of the force capacitive grip.
Had been thinking of them merely as slightly upgraded Oculus Touch controllers til recently.
One of my friends mentioned that demo too, I need to go watch it now
Is on the "Node" youtube channel. They have two videos. An older one, and a more recent one featuring the knuckles.
Holy hell just the elbow position and twist and everything looks awesome
is there a specific channel where I can ask help from someone who knows lots more than me about making avatars ? (I have the model I want though)
It would depend on the question but I would probably start in #avatars-2-general and drill down from there?
okay, I'll check ! I have some issues with the rigging of the said model
bones coming from nowhere etc
Ah, there is #avatar-rigging then
and basically everytime something unexpected happens, I'm just lost
Do a Fortnite dance into his bed, his mom see him and throw him to the bin
@ruby burrow I mostly got random people avatars blocked only friends
Shaders and that stuff
What is it
how do i stream or record vr chat on obs throguh oculus
like when i do display capture i cant get game audio
when i do it with game capture cant get mymic audio
You probably don't want to post the same thing in two different channels
But without knowing more about your OBS settings, the first thing we would have to check is what your input devices look like on OBS
Make that 3 channels
It's probably alright, but the rules say not to (you should give them a read)
Absolutely, you can DM me
@azure phoenix thats for random chat not vrc gen
I'm wondering if HTC's body trackers will work with whatever lighthouses come with the Valve Index...
God I hope so
it should if the're the 2.0 ones. they're all on the same tracking system developed by valve
I hope the price point goes down for the trackers soon too ...
I wonder how long it will take before we have haptic vests that aren't multiple thousands of dollars
Do you mean the general editor layout?
do you mean the window layout? on the top right select the layout menu and select default
Yep, what Jamie said. Layout dropdown in top right between docs button and close button
haah thank u guys
np ^^
Myself and a couple of friends are starting up a game of werewolf and we need some more people, if you want to join friend me (AfterHoursCej) or join the only public Werewolf / Mafia Card Game World
i still cant see my notfications when someone invites me or request but they can see mine...i uninstalled and verjfy files
A few days ago they reworked the notification system, that may have something to do with it?
im not too sure?
any one else notice some people's voice just lagging to hell for no reason?
@light dust yes
everything is laggy
I'm wanting to ask about the community guidelines, how far does the "No nudity" rule extend?
Would just a bra covering the chest be too exposed?
Do you mean like pictures in this Discord or in the game itself?
in game
I don't know, some of the things I've seen are pretty racy. I suppose it would depend on the bra and the worlds you're in primarily
Alright then, thanks
Swimsuits are common
hewwo
hewwo
https://github.com/NeuroWhAI/VRChat-Stalker is this good with the tos?
Probably translation error
just call it Friends List
@winged quartz you'll get an official answer after emailing the hello@vrchat.com
Oh, alright
Seems korean
Mostly just usual api checks, but WorldCache.cs worries me a bit. What does he do with the caches?
It's probably nothing bad, but eh, can't tell.
It's an in-memory cache of which world your friend is in
Probably to display said information
Ah, I see
It automates things that people can do themselves it seems
Still, the name and idea gives bad vibes
Seems like an executable version of the friends list on the vrchat website
With the added ability to write memos about them
And tag them into groups
and makes noise when they log in
It would be cool to have a history of what ones friends are doing. I also think you should be able to write notes on how you met people and such
But people abuse similar software to join and crash anyone as soon as they leave private worlds
nice to have double my ping now with the latest updates guys
empty room, no one downloading and 700-1200 ping
stop touching the internet usage
That's cause their connection is actual potato
i'm bored, what do i do in vrchat? i'm pretty sure been to many worlds
I like to hang out in the Spirited Away Train (Night) map.
when i'm alone, i hangout in the synth world developed by maggie monster
i really want to buy vr chat but i dont have a vr set
You can play it on desktop
It's free too
really?
being content creator is really hard and challenging
and you dont need a vr set for it right
As i said, nope no need for it
so i can just play it without anything
Don't need one, but when you see all the extra freedom VR users do have the curiosity will begin.
gateway drug
thank you guys i woudnt have known this without you
when will the dynamic bone be fix in vrchat?
Might wanna check #announcements for that
That was the result of the new dynamic bone limiter being implemented into VRChat.
If only there was a way to have vrchat changes show up as a message of the day when you fire up the app itself
I was suggesting that too..
i can't find the dynamic bone limiter so i can turn it off
It's in the Safety Tab
Though I am bothered that you can't change the dynbone and dynbone collider check counts in-game..
it's something new and different
Same applies to the Particle limiter. No ingame UI for it or a way to change it. What results in people not knowing what it is or even does...
hi how are you guys doing
i'm feeling like i'm in neko mode
Nothing much happening for me. Just feeling like I wanna slim down
the default dynamic bone limit is 32 right?
Guess who's back
Who?
Me, that one person that was kinda semi popular for all of a month like a year ago π
I'm sure everyone remembers me. All... 3 people that ever cared.
who are you
No one really important.
I just used to rig a lot of models for vrchat like forever ago
Damn.. it has really been a while
Just checked the chat history.. last post was May 4, 2018
@cunning osprey Lots of things have changed here too.. there's new guys in this Discord, some people here have left too.
Meanwhile, there's new stuff added into the game
I also don't remember how to rig models
@cunning osprey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGvalWG8HBU
Welcome back then TOAO. I started playing roughly a month after you stopped.
Ah uh
oof I literally can't change my nickname anymore
I named myself this after someone else claimed to be me
Here on the discord? You should be able to. Top left menu.
Ta da!
wasn't letting me use command
Back when svel was still in the server π Thats indeed a fair while by now
Ow yea his full name was Svelsiens
Fairly active in here around the time you where around
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
I probably hung with them at some point then
My brain no work no good so I forget things a lot nowadays.
I need to create another account, do you know how i can import avatars from my old to the new one?
Reupload them. Why you need a new account anyway?
Old one is somehow not working correctly. Also i lost the original unity files
Also i got too many friends in my list i don't see online anymore and it's quite the work to sort out my avatars and friendslist
I found a model that has like 9 fox tails
and I'm not even super into the model itself, just curious if I even can
@cunning osprey Because creators don't like people using their creations and claiming credit when it was meant to be for someone else. Then again, 80% of them have no right to complain because they're game rips anyway.
Ye I getchu
Is anyone else still having problems with receiving invites
I understand why authors don't like it. I wouldn't enjoy it much either
but you also have a point on the game rips thing
I have seen that yeah. Someone that ripped models from a game, chopped up the parts and uploaded them individually as "MMD horns pack" etc, and then has the gall to apply a whole bunch of overly controlling rules as to how they're used.
is vrchat server on or off?
Makes no sense when they do that.
Of course that's just a certain portion. Plenty of people put countless hours of their own hard work into original creations.
BTW Nova... there's already countless nine tailed foxes in the game these days.
RIG whatever you want to of course, but if you're not super into the model, like you said, might be other things you'd want to do instead.
Unless it's purely for rigging practice and getting back into the swing of things.
it's almost purely just to see if I can
It only has uh.... 203,086 tris
can I get that down to just 10% of that
without butchering it beyond recognition
There's a lot of fancy stuff going around the game these days. Working triple jointed legs, avatars with four arms, quadrupeds or even avatars with six legs, etc.
Yo wtf there's.... 11k tris just in the ears
All still rarer cases of course, but people have been figuring out lots of fun tricks.
Hmm. A friend is claiming that the update has changed the IK slightly, and that avatars can now T-Pose more accurately. '-'
As in, they can now straighten their arms properly, and supposedly they couldn't before.
how many of u uses the latest sdk?
What if you use it in VR-Chat, but only for purposes of dancing in the MMD dance worlds?
And then upload footage of that as an MMD video? '-'
As you should always use the latest SDK i hope most @lethal summit
breaks it in what way 
i usualy make new project when i change the sdk..
chairs doesnt work
dynamic bones didnt worked before.
when updating the SDK make sure to follow the steps in #vrchat-support to remove the old one cleanly first
are you using the right unity version?
i just linked you to a channel that explains it all
yo cant tell me from where?
its just a location..
so its the project folder
i actualy make a new project when i add the new sdk
reinstalled vrchat today and now have 22 models downloaded to start porting
well... 21. One of them is already in game
and I think I have a few duplicates
wonder why vrchat devs wont use the safemode avatar skin as the one of blue instead...since even the blue avatar feels a little heavy
Because the blue guy is for leading and the safemode is for safety?
it would be better if the avatar it would just switch directly with the one u change in to
instead of the blue one appearing every time when u do an avatar change.. its quite annoying.
specialy for small avatars..
its to load lol
That happens because it has to load in...
It cant just magically render within a second. Thats not how computers work
wanna bet ill make a model with such a small file size it'll load in a second
u dont get it..
if im not wrong....before it was just like that.
every time when u changed you avatar it would just change the avatar directly with the other one instead of having the blue one between change
That was back before changes made to combat avatar theft.
Reason #3825 why we can't have nice things.
its really annoying the new feauture..
every time when i change the avatar i get big again and then again small.
I would prefer a different loading avatar regardless though. The current blue guy is kinda terrifying.
With his weird semi angular lumpy features, and soulless (litterally) empty eyes.
And holographic teeth just hovering inside there.
im not talking about bad skin...even the fps decreases if i have to many ppl with it. the safemode one its way better that blue one
@stoic halo IK and ect also have to be loaded...
Yeah, that generic legless one would look better. Just give it a different texture to distinguish.
Should be as featureless and genderless as possible.
about the blue guy and avatar change should be done something about it.
unity be like
i dont like when my height keeps changing when changing avatar.
I'm not sure what it is about the avatar loading process that causes the FPS drops though.
It would also be nice if avatar switching was able to pre-load and apply your avatar height to the loading avatar. Dunno if that is technically practical or not, but would be nice.
its been like that for months when switching avatars
Just to avoid those moments where people are head patting a blue holograms crotch during greetings.
monitored vrchat for the last 10 hours ... and vrchat on oculus idle on the loading screen uses 1.697.529 MB of RAM next to the 693.512 MB of RAM of Oculus Dash and 512.618 MB of the Oculus VR server .... loading an avatar adds between 381.61 MB and 633.81 MB to VRChat RAM use and never clears this increase untill after switching worlds (so a 30+ users map adds easily 9 GB of RAM usage)
havenβt checked with the steam version yet but i know steamvr uses about 1-3 GB of RAM alone
is there some kinda update today?
@quartz osprey acualy...the ram increases untill your pc dies. (happened a lot to me)
before...but now im not so sure since i dont switch worlds too much
i had a logging in bug and it was fixed by an update
it might just have been your connection
yea ... loaded ram is barely cleared over time or when loading a new assets
blame amazon for their bad data servers
rip people that do commissions that use TDA models
needs upfdate i didnt know, i quit vrchat load up cant log in stuck on 100, update anounche i reaload all good
!cleancache
You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them
this helps next to resetting your network using ipconfig /flushdns
@rocky blaze i guess it has to do with article 17?
or they dont want them in vrchat anymore
no no
just dont force people to pay for the model if it uses a TDA base
other than that its fine
oh
apparently littlemouse (subcom person) is talking to a Rep of TDA explaining it
Ow yea as they are totally the person to trust...
"TDA is okay with people using edits of his work in VRchat as long as there isn't any money involved.
So no commissions, patreon, unity package sales, etc.
Doing edits for yourself or your friends. Having avatar worlds. Distributing unity packages for free. All of that is apparently still okay"
its on TDA's twitter....
Guess he has to remove his own models then lul
oh, this model policy: Models are not to be for commercial use.
guess they are enforcing it now\
i guess
I'm pretty sure that's been the case and fairly well known since day one though?
At least, I've always been under that impression.
guessing it is also outside vrchat
It's been like that for a while
same thing goes for other models, but people don't read the terms that come with it
Ow most people know- Those who dont are just refusing to accept general knowledge to be scummy..
It's Tda not TDA π
"It's free on the internet so it's free for me to sell" π€‘
just dont commission Tda's and you are good to go π€·
basically, you can still edit it and mess around with them just no moneys
The thing is a lot of other mmd bases/clothing I see a lot also say no commercial use
Make your own stuff from scratch to prevent yourself from breaking any rules π
Look at what i made!
< You made that?
Yea i made it..
< Its mine now.
Good to know you actually dont know the law that got voted in Elen...
As they are exempt from it π
Lets make music companies money and ruin our full tech industry*
I put parts credits in my avatar world. I couldnβt get everyone credited but itβs something. I bet no one reads it though
lets shut down criticism of our album and take all their ad revenue
even if they hum it >:)
still? @rocky blaze You where never allowed to make money with it in the first place
the ram convo i can believe
ive been crashing in. public worlds if i pass out
steam, oculus dash, and steamvr all crash with it
I don't even bother with premade assets whatsoever
If I don't 100% make it myself, I can't sell it
but they are enforcing it now @ruby needle
properly cause the whole Art 11 and 13 non sence
it doesnt change anything tho
it was allready illegal before
be happy that it wasn't enforced before
no skin off my back tbh i dont sell stuff
has there been some kind of statement from Tda recently about this or something?
All 3 stacked on top, all 3 respond to the visemes
That would be cool bucky
Man now I'm pumped about that
If i didn't have 3 comissions lined up I'd do it instantly LMAO
I want to make the wandersong bard that can sing with gestures
That'd be awesome if you can get good shaders!
Even the model alone would be awesome, do it!
has anyone noticed that VRChat (+ the VR community) is blowing up in Japan a bit?
Yeah. It was featured on national news there recently.
Itβs always been popular, but the news feature on the vr market is helping it get even more popular
And Japan has always been big on the concept of VR even before it was feasible. The only thing that's been holding them back thus far is the strange dominance of consoles over gaming PCs in households.
but that's no longer the case with Oculus Quest coming out (a standalone 6DoF VR system for gaming)
I've been telling EVERYONE about quest
Yeaaa- But the limitation of games and hardware for the quest
Oculus has stated before they wont even allow games where anyone is in swimwear...
And they have a high rule for what a game needs to be allowed.
Then it being a phone processor its iffy...
VRChat on the quest is probably gonna be heavily toned down
Its still inside out tracking... What is below what we currently can do.
If all the Japanese pick up the Quest for purposes of playing VR-Chat... that will cause some problems. ^ ^;
And only got an announcement that its going to be on it.
They never even made clear if crossplay will be a thing and how different the game will be.
It'd be interesting to get mobile compatible worlds, where your avatars need to meet a certain limit to join
Or be below it
Its not that easy though...
I know it's not that easy but I think that's one way to make sure the pc playerbase isn't that affected
I suppose it's always possible that they'll simply have an entirely separate version of the game, with strict mobile friendly performance limitations.
But it's still hard to imagine working. They'd need to rebuild an entire side community and the related content to do that.
The level of curation required doesn't seem within the teams capabilities right now.
The list of restrictions would probably need to include a specific list of whitelisted shaders, and no custom ones. No physics options such as dy-bones/cloth period. No real time lighting. Hard limit on avatar bones/materials/meshes, etc.
Well... Unless they managed to get different rules then anyone else.
The thing i said of not even allowing people in swimwear is going to be hard for VRchat to keep up.
And doesnt oculus also have there own report system and ban system..?
But world performance and file size is it's whole own deal that can't be controlled with numerical limits.
Yeah, that sounds... difficult. ._.
There's also this issue...
"While the $399 Oculus Quest model will have 64GB of storage, Facebook confirmed to UploadVR there will be a more expensive model with 128GB of storage space."
VR-Chat as we know it, would absorb a frightening chunk of that storage space.
The majority of VRChat storage is cold-cache, right?
I wonder what the clear cache routine would be. Whether Oculus will let people access the files to delete directly or baby them and hide it away.
What if it doesnβt cache π€
No cache would kill off many of the audience that already have bad networks or bandwidth caps
Blue man. Blue man everywhere.
Time to download the pug again
Iβm glad VRChat is no longer like that
Anyone use fbt while using wifi for their internet. I hear it cuts out the WiFi signal
I used to but got rid of it and got a powerline adapter.
Wifi just didn't cut it anyway.
@opaque hawk use 5 GHz wifi
Why is it not an option?
@opaque hawk Yeah, I used to have that exact problem. Made the game unplayable most of the time.
It was kind of weird, since for the first few weeks it seemed to work fine for me, with any problems being negligible enough that I didn't notice and just played normally.
But after a certain point my connection just became unusable if using FBT.
Confused me a lot, since I was excluding FBT as being the cause of it due to it being fine earlier on, but the moment I got an ethernet connection all my problems went away instantly and entirely.
@opaque hawk that's a myth
I use 5GHz ac with FBT and never had problems
they're running on 2.4
He said that 5GHz wasn't an option for him, not that it doesn't work.
But yeah, basic common router wifi and FBT is not a good combo. Need either better wifi or wired.
is it just me or peoples avatars are still blocked for me eventhough i put the settings to show everyone
Also as a side note
Ethernet over power is a thing π
There's possibly some setup that might allow regular wifi to still work, since it did for me at first. No idea what changed that stopped it.
I considered ethernet over power, but the electrical system in this house is so damned awful that people turning on the kitchen light often disables my microphone and forces me to restart the game.
i like VR
Me too what a coincidence
@languid beacon have u played vrc at all recently?
Wow just today! I even hang on their official discord
@languid beacon im asking nit because of that
But last night the lag got sobad it was unplayable, not just for me but for my entire group
And so I wanna go backon tonight not to just get off 5 seconds later becausw the game is broken
Anyone mind helping me find a way to fix my zoomed in VRCHAT? I'm looking at my recording now and I want to die. This shit went from like 90 FOV to 60 in a week.
I can use SteamVR and OpenVR but SteamVR runs like crap. So I'd rather figure out why my VRCHAT is zoomed all the way the hell ijn.
hallo
VRCHAT
NOTIFICATION SYSTEM AND FAVORITE OPTION PROBLEM
lot of my friends has an issue's about notification system:
cause they can't see each other's invitations,sending invites and invite request's
and as i mention friend's favoring
so...is it will be new vrchat fix for those annoying problems any time soon?
If no one sends a proper report towards support@vrchat.com and there canny.io spot they wont be able to find the problem and solve it
can't find a version of pmx editor that actually opens anyone got a solution?
What OS are you running?
Also, does anyone know if VRPill is ever going to upload the full version of Shibuya? I knew the cut down version we have now is from back before VRChat could handle large detailed worlds, but I feel like it's at a point that the full model should be loadable.
windows 10
Is it me or is vrc broke again, major low frames when loaded
@steel coral Dunno.. also I think there's a bigger version of Shibuya from Silent(?) But even that doesn't have all the details like Shibuya Station's interior and the big subway exit just next to the old passenger cab
@knotty ferry Where are you currently sourcing PMX Editor?
@queen mango Yeah, that's pulled form a Wii U game, so it's naturally not as heavily detailed as the like $800 model.
if thats what you meann
One second. I'll send you a link to the version that I downloaded that loads.
Omg 10fps
@knotty ferry Do you need it in English or are you Japanese?
english preferred
Hmm.. It makes me wonder: Should another Shibuya version be added, like the Persona 5 one?
@queen mango I was trying to rip that one, but it's in a LOT of pieces. To put it together accurately, I probably would have needed to have had the game open at the same time.
Also there's a few scene files that seem to be slightly older versions of the map too. The files for that game are a fucking mess.
I love how bad the login is when ur in EU
its actually really sad. it used to be fine now i cant login at all. it even crashes me sometimes.
I never have any problems unless it's really wide spread π€
@vocal shard check your log for invalid certificate
finaly i got in
Nope none invalid certificate
Bruh vrc is filled with languages errors damn and other errors too i just fresh installed it after my win 10 reboot
I want last year january vrc back.
I've been getting a lot of crashes and black screens. Not a lot of fun
same
@iron thunder are you having a headset? If so which one
who plays roblox?
VRChat continually uses more and more ram the longer you're in a public instance iirc too
until you switch instances
funny how they all said there were no memory issues lmao
They have stated there are some memory leaks and i you are able to reproduce one to report it...
Plenty have been fixed since then though---
i have not played in a while so i hope so
Aw snap. Time to send a photo of my empty unity project
Show where? Twitter? I've never done the twittle. ._.
I do have an account though. Guess I should follow VRC. Up til now the only account I've been following is a weird bot that pretends to be the character my avatar is from.
She just tweets stuff about buying noodles and such, in Japanese that I can't read.
Thats so cute squishy
Made first Tweet. Posted my WIP safari map.
Wish I didn't have this eye condition right now though. Have been wanting to get it good enough for public release, but can't stand looking at anything bright on a screen for very long.
Welcome then Brian. Enjoy your stay. π
It might have an anime girl on it, but that image is probably asking for a
just dumped without any context like that.
@rough pulsar Might wanna act upon the link above
Emoji of one of the admins. Often posted when someone does something against the rules.
Or an action that is unexpected of someone
Welp Elire then. Can ya remove the link above?
@languid beacon Oculus. The VRCHAT app does the same thing in the steam version and the Oculus version.
Was their first post too. Weird attention seeking kid was probably giggling like that was hilarious or something.
@umbral reef I just went to get toast π
Are you using oculusmirror.exe? If so there is a FoV start parameter
Elire clapped it then i guess
@iron thunder
_Also share toast π _
@languid beacon Does it run like crap when you do that? Cause i tried it last week.
I was recording my VRCHAT exe just fine with game capture for months.
@languid beacon Look in the user-support room and you can see a comparison of my vrchat game captures 2 weeks apart.
Doesnβt for me. Game capture of main vrchat window gives low FoV unless stream camera is open then it will be high FoV but from the view of the camera
Oculusmirror.exe always shows headset view so oculusmirror.exe Plus vrchat window with stream camera active gives two different high FoV views at the same time, good for compositing in obs
Not much else useful I can say
The mirror also has this awful warping on the sides.
hey guys.
oh really?
See documentation if interested
ill look into it.
hey im pretty new to the game, anyone wanna show me around?
Hmu for Voice Chat
Help! D:
What's the problem?
April 1st has arrived. One of the discords I'm in has just renamed literally everyone to "Egg" and put everyone in the "Egg" role. @_@
Oh god.
It's the same with another Discord server I'm in
Everyone has an orange color with 'Admin' on their names

Fix it Elire! You're our only hope! :x
(Despite having no power nor actual responsibility over this petty and non-threatening crisis)
I can't wait to see what asinine crap discord themselves throw out.
And by can't wait I mean dreading to find out.
@ Everybuddy Force enabled for all users. :v
That's so mindbogglingly stupid I can 100% believe they'd do it.
hello
will be support vive wireless Zen2 + X570?
If you're asking if the AMD Ryzen 3000 line with an x570 motherboard will support the vive headset, the answer is almost certainly
Is there really some danger of being in a public world because of "hackers" or some shit? I joined this group and they are super afraid of public lobbies. "Lag Free Box is a DEATH SENTENCE!"
You shouldn't be worried to go into a public world, especially if you have the safety settings at a sane default (not showing custom animations / lights / particles) from relatively new users
the likelyness of you in particular being "attacked" isn't very high, however, most people avoid it just because there is a slight chance of it happning and it's significantly higher than if you just stay in friends+ or something
basically "it almost never happen" isn't good enough, it shouldn't happen at all for the people who hide in private worlds to venture out in public again
will be support vive wireless Zen2 + X570?
I'd be worried if it couldnt
Might not be the best place to ask, but has anyone seen a world with Splatoon avatars?
I visited one maybe six months ago. Can't recall it's name.
Yeah, I've looked for a bit but I can't quite find it
at least gives me hope that it does exist, thanks
You rendering video?
I just learned recently they are very good at rendering multiple videos streams simultaneously
I just bought a 30 dollar headset will it work with vrchat
Itβs Logitech
Hey if anybody is good at blender, Iβll pay them $35 USD to fix a few problems Iβve been having with a model, dm me if interested
Iogitech h600
π
Yeah, context!
Reactions are usually funnier lol
Last time a got a flood of βwhy did you buy thatβsβ
Looks like you got a deal on it
Not really these suck I need to stop but itβs the perfect balance between good quality and inexpensive but they last like half a year and the mic ineveitably shorts
The MSRP is $69.99 according to their website:
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-headset-h600
Oooo- Talking about headsets are we?
I have a Sades SA-708GT. It's not the best, but it does it's job well. I got it for maybe, ~$30-$60?
I use a blue yeti on my desk and I have sennheiser hd 280 pros
i remember my blue yeti being the first thing i ever bought when i got my job at like 16
moving to #general-media
Ah-
Amazon sells them for 40. Regardless theyβre crap this is not an ad donβt buy them
Hy
if i uninstall and reinstall will i keep my skins
Yeah, they're saved on your VRChat account
k
how long until i can upload a custom avatar?
Depends on a lot of factors with the weights not really known. They let me do it around 10 hours of play time.
okay, thanks for the info
Also, if you've just been logging in through steam only, make sure you merge your steam account into a vrchat account
You won't be able to get anywhere until that's done
i think i've done that already
Iβm glad that I can favorite 16 avatars now.
OHHH YES
The author of my favorite character, the sole author, gave me his custom 3D rendering of his character to use in vrchat
I'm excite
That's awesome!
so has anyone noticed that VRChat's popularity blew up in Asia (mostly Japan and Korea) recently?
yeah i've come in contact with a lot of koreans lately
any good servers tonight?
Anyone here know what Ports VRChat requires?
As in needed to punch through a router?
No like internet ports.
My ISP told me to try to find out over me disconnecting a ton lately whenever i launch VRChat.. They told me routers come with all ports closed by default and they could open some for me if VRChat needs to use them..
Have you been able to connect to VRChat ever before, or is this just a "lately" problem?
And how soon is lately, if so
Lately problem, I did a small test tonight like after it happened several times.. 11pm - 11:40pm didn't launch VRChat.. left things like discord, IRC, firefox on twitter open.. didn't disconnect at all.. as soon as i launched VRChat.. POOF.. everything disconnects.
For them to tell you all routers have all ports closed by default is laughable, and I would be extremely skeptical of that being your issue beyond this just being the next step in their script for "can't connect to game" issues.
I assume you play through Steam? Can you see if the disconnects happen if you leave vrchat closed and just launch steamvr manually?
I have 100mbps down and 10mbps up
ok, that should be good, but can you check out my questions above?
have you tried a VPN?
Ethernet all the way.
This PC doesn't have WiFi nor will i ever give it a wifi pcie board..
Does the internet crash happen with other games or just vrchat? And what country are you in?
I'm in the USA. it only seems to happen with VRChat.
Damn, this is a new one to me
Does the entire router crash, like other devices lose Internet as well, or just your desktop?
Hi guys!
Hey!
Thanks for approving me :) whoever did so
@rancid vessel This seems to be a very rare issue, it'd be interesting to know what kind of router/modem combo you have. I think that you should probably look into submitting a ticket with the steps laid out in #vrchat-support , they might be very interesting in getting a crash log from you
Try a vpn
heyo
Oooof
Is it busy online rn
Dang was worried the server would be dead with me joining this late, or is it just quiet?
.. I'll take that for it being dead at this hour π
Well, it's just pretty quiet around here
yeah I figured with it being 3am or so for most of the US
My favorite time of day.
I work nights so this is my normal awake time. Also messing with model sculptors is surprisingly fun
Meanwhile, it is 2:34-5:34 PM over Asia and around 7:34-8:34 AM over EU
Lotsa timezones
can't log into the VRC website ;-;
was gonna change my name
Night shift too.
@vocal shard Oof.. did you try everything to login?
about to try restarting my computer. already deleted my cache and reopened the browser
all good now
guess it was my craptop being crappy again
Sometimes when you go into your startup world, it becomes public for a short while
I heard about it pretty long ago, and it seems that it's still a bug.
My private world became public, and a friend joined me in that time. It's not really safe for work, so it would be a bummer if a bug got me in trouble
.... so I was messing around seeing if I'd ever want to subject myself to trying to create a custom avatar
and I'm surprised it doesn't look horrible while animated o-o
yeah I'm wanting to have my main avatar be an earth golem
but I can't seem to find any earth golem VRchat read models
a elemental being made of rock?
doesn't have to be?
I like earth golem's from all games usually
nope =l
hi ^^
heya, still having an internal crisis over whether I want to learn how to do 3d modeling and texture mapping to create an earth golem avatar, hows you're day starting out?
o,0 seems complicated i havent slept yet x_X
yeah it would be
Tfw even the models I had that still worked
or rather are at least still the model I initially downloaded before that bug forever ago
a bunch of which are at least buggy now
like skin discoloration, camera out of place, arms not quite seeming to be mapped right
im not toxic
πͺ
rip I can't get the autorigging to work for this new model
did you try "alt" "F4" ?
might in a sec, I've been messing around for like 3 hours just learning how sculpting a 3d model works
hi
I may be learning how to set up a skeleton today too at this rate xD

π
ok but on a serious note @rugged dock if you can't get it to work you can always just throw it into mixamo.com and let it do its magic
isnt the best but you can fix it up afterwards
ohhhh
the first version I made works in it, but not the new one
i thought you were in blender xD
what file format is the new one?
obj
blender autorigging owo
same as the first
oof. that's weird. You tried converting it to an FBX then passing it through mixamo?
I think its because of the arms/legs floating fromt he body
the algorith is probably confused as heck
probably
bit of a shame sadly
still proud of how the first one I made turned out, gonna try and make an asymetric model because I hate myself!
Imagine
guuuuys o-o are there rly NO guilty crown avatars in vrchat?!
what the hell is a guilty crown
an anime? lol
never heard of it. is it bad?
uhm no?
Its a chinese cartoon where the guy pulls a sword out of a girl's breast
chinese?..
oh so it's perverted garbage. gotcha
it's japanese first of all wth....
The music is pretty good tho
about an anime called guilty crown. I wondered why there are no avatars in vrchat
they could have great effects for talented people that can do stuff o-o
yeah..and the dude with one called an anime chinese cartoon
so....doesnt mean anything
I'm assuming he was being sarcastic. if not, oh well
Maybe. I also like to say that SAO was the best cartoon made ever
i liked gc way better than sao
Depends on which series
og dot hack
Sign was boring af since it was dialog driven
Can't watch that without falling asleep
it only mattered if ya played the original games
I've only played the game on my buddies ps2 like 15 years ago
so yeah
@mighty nest I just started alicization last night, seems promising
Selector wixoss and Wixoss school wars is where its at guys
I haven't read past Mother's Rosario soo I'm gonna hold off on Alicization until I can read the LN. People have been saying it was pretty well written tho
tacoboi is big gaye
cause
The people have a right to know
no u
I'm good. how're u feeling today?
you don't wanna know lmao
I dunno maybe I do, lol
if you wanna talk you can always dm me yknow
you're welcome
yo I just remembered
nani
this one time I told you to compliment your wife's drawings for me
did you ever do that
I sure did
she was very happy. she's in the server now btw, and yes I did
@compact pendant
ash beat me to it lol
I'll send her a link
all though you don't chat there often
I need to be more active I know u__u
O: hello
ghosto π this is my wife
Run while you can queenie

Lol Iβm good.
are the login servers up?
Most likely
I hate my town
They set off the tornado sirens as an april fools joke
Atleast im assuming it was a joke
you never know on a day like this
That's not a joke
Yeah well
there's no weather warnings on my phone or anything, and there's nothing outside really
It's a little bit cloudy but not much
it's also not the green tint of tornado weather
yeah i don't think they'd do that


hah sike gotem
@covert linden thats not nice
wym

