#vrchat-general-2
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Hi everyone, not sure if this is the correct channel to ask.
I'm looking for an avatar.
I have only seen this avatar twice, so I don't really remember the details of it.
It's kinda like a bookshelf but with a TV in the middle of it, the TV plays video and music (Ricardo's dance video)
The top and the bottom, there are two mini dancing Ricardo
Anyone has any idea of where to get this avatar?
Thank you 😄
Oh ive seen that one xD
@covert linden i ask that guy if i can clone it but he faked that he unfavorite that avatar accidentally ( short story : refuse to let me to clone it )
I really want that avatar, hope someone in here have it / know where to get it
Hello guys. Is it possible to lock PPlayspace mover axis?
I want to move only in Y
I heard people are having some issues on the friend invite..
every time i join The Box I tell myself "okay, maybe it'll be different this time" and every time i am proven Wrong
I don't think I've ever set foot in the Box
i regret it every time
they're either talking abt the weirdest sht or i get lagged out
I've heard ...stories.
can confirm
Yikes.
r we still talking about oculus damn this convo started yesterday
wrong chat buddy, the oculus convo is the next channel up ^
To be fair it is a pretty big announcement
d a m n 🍵
How's VRChat?
Garbage.
This new update is horrible.
If they wanted to upset people and lose members they did the right thing by limiting breaking dynamic bones instead of dealing with real issues like finding new ways to stop people from crashing others and servers.
Love it, being able to choose to not see dynamic bones is a god send
Kind of wish some of the bugs were caught before the official push, but I know the devs are hard at work fixing them. They already fixed quite a few bugs
usually
i have no fps issues with dynamic bones for the most part unless someone has a stupid ass amount of them
like one model with like 3k on their tail
like why the fuck.
Yea but then its one avatar ruining your frames
What if its 20 avatars all doing it a tiny bit?
not too much of a problem for the most part
not going to be a straight 90
but i wont be blasting 30fps.
90FPS is the norm really though...
The experience becomes leaps better with it
right but in VRChat 90 fps its generally hard to get in large groups or lots of worlds.
It was not before dynamic bones and cloth became normal 👀
I get 30fps with vr
tbh the game ran worse before that in my experience.
Pre user boom the game ran smooth for me
Then the user boom happened and i pretty much never hit that 90 FPS in popular rooms
After upgrading my PC i got a proper 90 FPS again so
From my experience the FPS was fine before the boom, then they added cameras and performance started to tank
got better recently
i would say it was the worlds being unoptimized generally then for me
But it for sure makes a difference still...
At best you should be arguing about how the dynamic bone button placement is dumb
It should be in the settings and not hidden in the TRUST ranking menu...
Its not a trust system its a performance system...
I agree oclac
Oh yeah that was when the avatars were loaded instead of images
And they should not have released it without being able to edit it ingame...
that was pretty bad
you can edit it in game wut
The value's?
Yeah
was about to say unless tahts only for enabling and disabling
My friend adjusted the values to 100 and something
Dunno how he did it I didnt ask
You need to edit a file for that outside of the game.
Same goes for the particle limiter...
Turning it on and off works ingame
we're talking about the dyn bone limiter right? You can only change a file
The default should be off imo, Or, a popup when you see it for the first time
Thats not how any other game or settings normally work
“Vrchat used to run smoothly” yeah we didn’t have people with 30 material, 1k collision checks and proud of it
All my friends were freaking out like help myhair isnt moving and I was like here do it like this
Just make a 'performance' tab or throw it in the settings menu
The people with insanely laggy avatars tend to be the same ones complaining they are always “getting crashed”
Thatd work
meanwhile here i am with basic models that arent laggy getting poor performance because of something that doesn't even effect anything
What something* then?
You wanna elaborate what that something is @stoic halo?
Because wanna bet it does in a way but just not loads like dynamic bones or cloth 👀
dont remember what it was for my older models.
my current one is eh, 95 transforms and 18 components and that's all that is red.
huehuehue
each component has an overhead
Thats a lot of materiald
dont remember what they were for tbh
I have 3
my Nier model is "VERY POOR" because 71k polys
You honestly don't need more than 5 unless you have some weird effect setup
One for the panties, one for the face, andd one for the atlas. The only reason theyre seperate is because unity was making my panties make bad shaped.. suggestive.. because of some broken map, and the panties broke the face
Well Thats fairly dumb indeed but they need to make a limit somewhere for the poly count-
And decimating it and extra 1k isnt hard for almost any model. I still have to find one myself that doenst look good with 70K flat.
And no- You cant have had it before the change happened. Atleast you cant argue that because you where hacking the game then. So that falls flat. (And it would have been really unoptimized then so...)
wut
71k is above the limit
Fun fact, bypassing their restrictions is against the TOS.
oh lol. 🤷 not like i use it anymore anyways
I have to adjust the arm length of my model by a lot and im like... thats gonna suck xD was given a good tutorial though
all i gotta really see is that theres lots of public models in public worlds running 90k polys and nothing being done
Report them and they will take actions
the world got taken down before and it's back up again before the test labs so idk about that really
was taken down because of massive animations or something
Having the stat profiler report more than 70K does not mean any rules were broken. You could have just profiles it while they had a prop active
probably the staff on the model if anything, thats the only other polygonal object on the model besides the model itself.
Now you have custom animations blocked and you profile more than 70k yea send a report
i dont really see the point in reporting over polygons tbh when they are minimal to the performance
meanwhile 300000 dynamic bone tail over there dropping my FPS down by 50 frames.
theres a fluffy shader that can do that easy
It’s not reporting over polygons so much as reporting modded client/sdk
go face to face with it and its basically a crasher
i could care less if someone modded their SDK
its not harming me or anyone unlike a client could
I disagree but you don’t have to report anyone. I’m still gonna encourage people to though

i dont really know where the hate came from since then. i remember everyone and their mother modding the sdk because of the 20k limit being terrible 🤷
Because 70k is more than enough
polys dont cause lag as much as anyone thinks tbh
Even if we had concrete proof that, for example, 200k was totally fine and added zero lag, but the limit was still 70k, it doesn't matter because it's still a rule and you look fine with less than that. People are just lazy so I report on principal tbh
Like just decimate it. If you can't, learn. Don't be fucking lazy.
it seems like just silly micromanagement to me honestly
limit shaders, dynamic bones etc. that does the real performance damage.
Limit shaders how
Or maybe don’t mod the SDK if you don’t want to get reported
You are free to do what you want.
im not good enough to explain how to limit shaders since i dont work around that.
ive yet to see anyone be reported for polys tbh
A hard limit on DB actually has an effect on creativity while s poly linit really doesn't unless you're just dumb. Their goal is to minimize the effect they have on people's ability to create
There is no hard limit on dynamic bones. People were just given the option to limit them, if they wish.
right, but polys do so little i could give less of a damn about how many you have
A 200k model and a 70k model can look exactly the same when done right or at least not discernably different unless you actually try to find differences. A model with a ton of DB and a model with next to none do have a difference
Ironically if people were simply given the option to turn them off entirely, there wouldn’t be as big of a freak out. But now we got on or limited, which is less strict, and people complain. Makes no sense.
people are complaining because of how it was implemented
The 70k poly limit is carefully crafted
remember the 20k limit 
Anyone complaining about the DB limiter outside of it being not super user friendly is an idiot of the highest order
The dynamic bone limit is stupid because it's clearly not finished, it should not have been on by default. There is no indication that it's on so #user-support-old was filled with "why are my dynamic bones not working?"
that was a joke of a limit
It's tucked away in some corner that not many people will look at
Ree how dare you report a 1.7 million poly model
And no people complain because they think it's a hard limit and are just stupid. I see it once every few hours here
They just want to test their websockets and threw in the limiter to "satisfy" people
It was the first thing I looked for, because im already in this discord but it wasnt where I expected it
I've not seen any model higher than 100k polys tbh
The "masses" aren't really complaining about it's implementation being poor they think it's something that isn't.
Well considering the limits are not editable ingame and are on by default, it's quite close to a "hard limit". Just like how you're "technically" not hard-limited on custom shaders as a New User, but nobody will see your shaders anyway. Same end result.
@vocal shard how dare you have a model witth more polys than I have skin cells
You have trillions relax
I Legit havent found anyone who doesnt think the particle limiter should get a ingame settings option and menu
And that the dbone stuff should also be places more logically in there
Also the patch notes clearly indicate it's in. Current users have no excuse
I mean yeah technically new users can use whatever shader they like, but let's not pretend that they aren't being limited in any way
I never have safety on eep
But future users will have trouble
The patch notes are only really visible in Discord and on the site
Oh no anything only editable in a text file needs to stop I’m in agreement there
Oh yeah, it's on Steam at least
You know, the place most launch the game from every single day?
@rigid crescent I dont read patchnotes for 99% of the games i play, but even then.
The game doesnt announce a version has changed when you start it up. How would i ever find out unless im in here?
It's their own fault for not seeing it. Like I said though, future users will have trouble.
The fact that the values are editable via text file pretty much gives them an excuse to never make them editable ingame.
Friendly reminder, voice prioritization is still broken and we still can't hear jack shit in crowded instances.
Inside steam? I havent touched steam for over 3 weeks by now thanks to shortcuts lol
I never noticed voice prioritization till I got vr..now hearing people is horrid
The steam updates notes? Because of other games yes (facotrio mainly... )
Not to mention that most people launch it from the SteamVR overlay which isn't quite user friendly. The point is, there is no indicator that it's there and that's a bad thing. Stop trying to excuse their mess of a UI
But i learn more about patches and updates from games thanks to the home menu from discord then the game itself lol
I agree they should add it ingame via notifications but it's still plenty clear.
Unless the game makes it clear things changed on start up
I have issues distinguishing voice and I have pretty much stopped playing for the past few weeks because of the voice prioritization issue. I can't fucking hear anyone and keep having to gesture at people to follow me away from the crowd. It fucking sucks.
A social game where you can't socialize is literally worthless
right i didn't realize they added the limiter so i was scouring the menu to see if they added an option for it
no notification for it unless i check notes
But I agree with the limit or being on by default. It’s not like dynamic bones are entirely off by default if you use them how vrc wants you to they will work
I knew because I always read the logs
i come home and get on vr
Its in the safety menu...
Last time i checked safety isnt caused by turning off dbones 👀
not scour documents tbh for features or things idc about
With that logic the setting where people get close and vanish should also be included there
only time i check patch notes is for fighting games
It's still a game, an ever-changing one. To not read patch notes is your own fault honestly.
They're available at least 4 places 2 of which being the place people launch the game.
Most users are not power users mic...
You need to feed them te information for them to realize it
right
Power users? Its in big bold letters under "play"
Its why loads of mobile games force patch notes on start up
Or make you even press the new buttons
i just goto the game, not read forums for it or documents
patch notes tend to be things i dont even notice or care for
so what's the point of reading them tbh
Blame the users all you want, but the fact that this issue comes up so often is plain evidence that they did something wrong when informing people.
You can't just say "well those users are idiots!" when talking about UX
Also as a side note- They forgot to update the photo of the loading menu
The 'Performance options' button isnt even there...
The loading screen behind you hasn't gotten the UI rework
UX is meant to protect dumb users.
The buttons are all in the old style when you look behind while loading
really?
wait there's a button behind me
Yeah, they mirrored the loading screen behind you a while back
the fuck i never knew
But when they redesigned the UI this never came up
Tbh the menu really needs to get some new names for things...
Having personal space be in settings under 'Comfort and Safety' is odd when we got a Safety menu with sub menu of 'Performance options'...
I'm not even reporting this, I'm just gonna add it to the list of issues that we can all laugh at two years from now
The UI is a mess but they literally said they weren't gonna implement certain features due to lack of UI space lol
Like cameras in the safety system
Also lmao- never even realized as i never play desktop but why does the menu fade?
surely they can make the window wider?
Lol yes they could, the real answer is laziness as always IMO
Or maybe scale it with your avatar
The icons are gigantic
Why isnt it snappy >:L
I want my snappy menu's! Not slowly fading into the next one and having to watch it all show up even though its already loaded...
me me like big button unga
Well yea- Its bad UX design to not have things be instantly responsive
tbh i never even processed the fact it fades
First thing I do when I get firefox is to make fullscreen instant, instead of that 'laggy' opening/closing animation
Oddly enough some things within the menu are snappy and feel nice to click while others dont...
humm why do they have almost 2000 open un responded Canny reports , when you say open a Canny report it really feels like they are saying they just don't care and say shut up or open a Canny , they ask did you open a canny report you say yes and they must be laughing at this point
Oh yeah, and disable smooth scroll in Firefox too
Look, votes on your canny don't matter. The custom humanoid animator canny has hundreds of votes but not even "under review"
Things should do what they're told and when they're told so. They shouldn't look fancy, the user doesn't want to look at them anyways. It's all about speed
👀
If there's shortcuts to do something, most people just press those without looking
how will vrchat even run on the quest tbh
Not
im like so curious to see it
It has to be on its own special thingy
Or ruin the game for quest users
A game like robot recall what can pull off more optimizing then Vrchat ever can.
https://i.redd.it/75wo9k4f8po21.jpg 👀
Every avatar replaced by a random default avatar scaled to that players size, and every shader attempting to fallback to default?
Well the shader thing has to happen with the Snapdragon... As it cant render any shader at all beside some basic ones really
TBH a lot of shaders are bad performance-wise
Same that loads of light options just flat out wont work on that
Also cant have too many polygons at once- and ect
It's hard to find any material on shader optimization though
Gonna disagree a little I think the menus are the perfect size, I find most games menu text is far too small and I need my headset perfectly in the sweet spot to read things and even then I gotta squint
I can go on explaining this.
But its tech talk and i cba to explain why the things im saying are the way they are so ima just keep quiet
"Avoid branching" "Calculate everything above the per-pixel shader" just those two
just don't use shaders 4head easy optimization
There is more then one extreme hurdle the team has for the quest
They have it more tough then Recroom for sure
Custom worlds with 4K textures and 5 maps per object?
You can branch as long as it’s deterministic
Ah, right. that uses special flags though right? Like IF_SHADOWS or something
its just surprising and funny seeing the memes about vrchat and the quest
Agreed
You have to garunteed the same code path is taken down your code forks. Like, don’t make a frand and then if it down one path or another
UpVote for every issue then filter email by dev names
im gonna make a "welcome quest users!" world
Chances are quest users are gonna be in their own server
its just gonna be optimized spawn (literally a 1kmx1km floor with a button mirror) with the words "welcome quest users!" if the vrc team actually somehow manages to pull of crossplay
lol, thats if crossplay even happens tho...
I hope there is crossplay
^ you have a good point
that would be exciting - occasionally popping in with mystical tech like dynamic bones
I feel like vrchat didn’t even want to announce it yet, but the quest trailer dropped a picture of Ava for a s plot second so they are like whoop guess cats out of the bag
Feel like Quest content will be separate and PC players can join Quest servers
My prediction anyways
it would be neat if they could play on the same servers, but avatars are replace unless they are quest approved. or something like that so they aren't completely locked out
@tacit plank shaders rarely matter for optimization
Although keywords are an issue regarding shaders.
The stuff that lags most is fur shaders, multipass shaders (rarely seen), grabpasses and stuff like starnest
Single-pass shaders are almost always comparable in performance
I profiled a lot of them
If you can join quest “servers” then I’m sure you can’t bring your avatar. They’d need to manually green-light it or have it pass some mobile-friendly metric
I will personally make lag-free doofenshmirtz work even if I need to give it Legacy/Vertex Lit shaders
Which one? You mean XSFur?
Yeah
As far as shaders go it is very laggy, yes. It's a geometry shader.
Some users use a popular shader which is really laggy
On a related note, there is one exception to the single pass shaders and that's Cubed's
Cubed's is three times as heavy as anything else I have profiled. Non-Lite Cubed's, that is.
I remember changing to it after putting it on 3 textures and dropping 10 fps
It's not. It's a semi-common cartoon shader with rimlight support
I think it might be arktoon, but not 100% sure
And guess which shader is most poplar with the lazy mmd conversation crowd that always has 30 materials and 1k dynamic checks?
Why are these shaders so big anyways? It's like 10 lines to make a flat lit shader
Because it's not that simple
Somebody should compile a list of shaders and their performance or something. I'm off to bed now
I really don't like the idea of selling shaders to be honest
Or people who sell prefabs
I mean that's basically how markets work
World creators are all banding together and made all kinds of Discords and shit, but avatar creators only wanna sell shit and stuff
if there were more experienced/higher quality and reliable people doing it at a lower price, the prices would be lower
I think the world creator community is very much a closed hivemind though
"Artificial" wa
Very elitist and will ban you for being banned on the VRC Discord etc.
What...
psa generalizations are silly 
ah cliques. high school all over again
You mean, life, right?
no I meant what I said. read my words mic smh
If the creator is popular due to making a streamer's avatar, then it kinda makes sense they'd raise price. demand for their avatars goes up
it's not really artificial
I wonder how many avatar worlds credit the original creators of the avatars or parts they use.
0
probably a few if none
Next to none, but there's also next to none that claim to have handmade the parts as well.
"i made this avatar" slaps an mmd shirt on an already made avatar
bless
that's true, lol
I don't think "most" think it gives them copyright, they just think it means they made it. If they thought they had copyright there would be way more false suits in this game
well a bunch of people in any world is gonna be laggy lol
til spicy networked IK ❤
It does get super laggy. Wip worlds generally aren’t done with optimizations
tfw 50 unoptimized models in one world
ive never seen a world with 50 people in it but ok
join events
you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between 50 optimized models and 50 unoptimized avatars lol
they get so laggy lmao
oh events yeah I can see that
at that point the IK is just shredding your CPU into confetti
I want a flat lit shader that obeys light direction based on camera angle. So if you are looking at the side that would be lit by a light; the whole avatar is brighter.
Last week I showcased a world. Had the default real-time light from a new project. Got super laggy just from that. It was very unfortunate
Default unity project lighting isn’t really laggy for me though
It's realtime directional with shadows
It's pretty laggy. Turning shadows off helps a little bit though.
Oof. I love worlds with player shadows
please everyone 😢 If you've had a bad experience in VRChat due to another user acting maliciously, report them to the Moderation Team. Please really do this. Its how we help creators be fairly rewarded for their VAST EFFORTS making worlds and avatars, and will keep vrchat alive and well. If one keeps stealing avatars to mod them, or bits of worlds to make their own, that will scare away the high quality experienced creators and just make a lot of people sad. ❤
put money in the things you believe in and enjoy, buy assets from creators. buy 3d models from 3d model publishers and creators. you will probably have a job making 3d models one day too, and you want to get paid for what you do. you don't want to waste all your energy 😦
Yeah there's no way they can patch cache ripping
but, people have feelings and feeling receptors
if we talk about it, that can change minds 😃 I am an old lady. I KNOW THIS IS TRUE 😄
omg
you are logical types
try to believe in the goodness of people, in the good possibility of change
be the change you wish to see in the world
full of rippers, script kiddies, so basically VRChat is one big Highschool.
if you want others to be good, be good yourself, and talk about whats good its reALLY WORKS
it is one big highschool but we gotta be the adults and teachers elders when we can, just talk about it more everyone. talk about how much it hurts when all your hard work is stolen
my god especially if you're disabled like me and every precious bit of energy spent on something...is precious
lmao
actually I'd be a teacher fuck abort ABORT
;"( children please try to learn empathy
i'm sorry your parents spoiled you
i'm sorry you grew up on ritalin
Whyre u acting entitled
and you wanna be edgy to get the anger out
i said one possibility
there is so much to say
so many different types of people
:Questioning Misaka:
if parents are terrible yo uwanna take out anger on vrchat too i understand
Well not EVERYONE is a emo Justin Bieber lover from 2011
like i'm not sarcastic or angry, i am speaking in a caring voice i mean no offense
i am way older than that
haha
me no likey bieber
Okay, Age doesn't have to do with someone's personality.
not everyone is a murderous war hungry fall out fan either
bieber doesn't have to do with someone's personality either 😛
@brisk bone Making it imposible VS making it so hard its not worth for most people to do it tho--
anyway everyone, just like remember....if you really love an avatar, think of the creators heart...and how if you BUY their avatar, you ARE WAY MORE LIKELY to see MORE of THEIR AWESOME AVATAR CREATIONS available 😄 tata ❤
Evwry time I paid for an avatar it had problems
that's only your experience
Was easier to teach it to myaelf and do a better job
And thats how I got a bf so I mean
every time i buy em they are perfect because I know where and how to look
and ask creators questions before you buy
like what the poly count is
Or just make theem
and if they merged together seperate models or not, or maede it one cleanly made mesh model
sure make your own from scratch or assets you bought
please
tbh i encode my name into my textures on my avatar, so whoever steels it welp they wouldn't know.
Tbh- If you know to ask those questions big odds are you can do it yourself...
that's gtood the sorrow
So youre talking ahout commissioning things from scratch not mmd?
@brisk bone With the last update loads of cheat programs got bricked again
there is ALWAYS a way. like its that we need to SOCIALLIZE n vrCHAT up peoples HEARTS. srsly. tell em the repercusions with EMOTION in your voice like a pernt, and they will learn
Its about making it harder to do
Not making it impossible as THAT isnt realistic and cant be done
*parent
When youre telling people to.commission theyre gonna get mmd models commissioned. @worn rampart
Not from scratch most of the time
yeah lets just do all we can to make it better thats all that helps that counts 😄 😄 😄
rae i don't know what mmd is
but BUYING assets will help YOU have a job if you become a 3d modeler
and is just right
99% of vrchatz avatars are mmd
^
but i understand that when you are alow income you need to just learn, and corow things someties and don't resell them for profit and thats ok
or take credit for others creations
lets just all do whats right
Its a model type-
And most commisions in VRchat are hardcore copying and sealing works. They get payed to do the labor to get it working but they do not make most of the content.
❤
Meaning anime, theyre all anime bases peoplw dont own and throw things on for free, And sell them, so unless you are getting it from scratch this is how.most people make em
back that up Rae it's 90%, most people I see now is either from fortnite or a kermit
is there a way to change the idle animation? cause my avatar seems to default back out of the over ride im using
oclac i think i get it but i am happy i think? me has brain injury and me too tired to understand anymore
good talk everybody 😄
@vocal shard back it up? Look at any vrchat video
have a good day ta ta now srsly
lol good point
Implying fornite avatars are still self made...
Edcuate yourself before telling peeople to spend money on avatars that technically they dont own lol
Those are even more against the law then mmd models lmao
lawl, "I bought this avatar that was stolen, so its now my personal avatar and asset"
^ exactly
@brisk bone mine are all hand made from cubes
Its why ill never sell my modeels lol theyre just me rigging, thatd be liike paying for.me to.colour someone elses art
but hey, thats cool, i always love being ignored for making my own avatars
👍
Ok you dont make up the majority Max
anyways
You are not te majoritt of people wwho sell avatars sorry to break the news but
Boycot Subcom for stealing models btw
that conversation with her was almost as stupid as seeing someone asking if VRChat was on PS4
tbh i dont really care about being famous or even well known, i just like making my own to push the limits of what i can make, i love to surprise myself
Everyone is aware some people do things from scrarch, nobody says not a single person does, just most dont
My model is justt rigged and the weighpainting I had to redo do to some problems, but it aint my model
i should i guess make a few of my models public, but i really dont want to >.>
There was a chunk of my hair literally weighpainted to a not existant bone
maybe im greedy that way
here, imma make a deal, when i die, you can have my stuff
Yeah I agree Fez
Imo 100$ is WAY too much to just rig or recolour, but nobody listens lol
naw, 1,000 to 2,000 is WAY to much for ANY virtual item
I might as well colour oger top of someone elses art and sell it for 100$
The question with those ranges is time and quality
If they make it from scratch thats a lot of 3d anatomy study erc so I get it
3d modeing from scratch for a high quality model can be very time consuming, especially if normals and sculpting were involved
tbh, making a model from scratch isnt all that hard, most of your time would go to sculpting and texturing and perfect rigging
It is a lot
You have to have a goood grasp on 3d dimensions and generally human anatomy
i guess, but i can usually pump out a model if asked inna day
And my human anatomy skills only currently are good enough for my 2d art, not 3d
yeah, i suck at 2d but rock with 3d, trade?
I made my avatar in a day, but mine wasnt all that detailed. It really depends on what quality you are getting
ah well
Mine, or were you asking about something else?
shrugs
Maxs
a
see whats?
yeah there's a difference from selling stuff you made from scratch vs selling stuff you found on deviantart and mashed together
kinda random.. but I keep going to @frosty dome 's airbnb world to listen to the awesome music... tho I was wondering if anyone by chance knows what music is playing in the world because despite attempting shazam, and dming nomic I've no luck finding out
Ah ok, have you studied anatomy max? Looks like you have based on your models
Pretty good
Better than I can do to say the least xD
mhmm, yeah, and how canines lower legs and paws work so my hands are more paw like since imma fox
maxwell in the fur: http://puu.sh/D6FY9/fda5d13c29.jpg
even with a little belly >.>
http://puu.sh/D6FZ2/d906071ffc.jpg
a pooch i think its called?
I 100% am with u on your thoughts Fez
my friend says vrchat is hella laggy thonk
does your friend have good specs?
VR-Chat is one of the only games where replying "No u", to someone complaining about the game being laggy, can potentially make sense.
Sometimes, it work. Sometimes it just works
Not that I do.
“Vrchat is always so laggy” well, y’know, you’re the avatar that’s always in every room that you are in.
mind blown
Try a less than 70k poly avatar :p
my 1.4m isn't that bad okay
How would avatars work on Quest?
o.o
We still don't have much of an idea about it.
One can only assume..
Are invites still not working..?
@tulip light according to pill "It just works"
Really a bad time for faulty stuff to not work 🙃
There's some DaddyDuckle guy shouting out people's IPs and where they're from
He's also acting kinda racist
Might wanna report the issue to moderation@vrchat.com
Make sure to read the guides at #moderation-reports. And well, try not to give out names.
Witch hunting isn't condoned here. (Output log helps the case, if you happen to be in the session he's in)
the name you see also isn't super reliable
if you're sending an email, it helps to include your output log
so the exact user can be easily pinpointed by the staff
Alright
I'm ok with people who use their crazy effect models but when their doing it in areas where people are relaxing and they are doing to be annoying fuck them or if their wacky effects is annoying or someone having a fucking seizure don't do it mostly if someone having a fucking seizure!
Not to be rude or anything, but if you're prone to seizures you shouldn't be playing VRChat or you'll have to have all avatars disabled permanently. There's no way you can play without coming across that sort of thing unless you turn safety settings to max and even then it's very risky.
while that is true, there always is a first time and that can be in VRC.
Has anyone seen a world that has a claptrap model or could help me find one online thats rigged?
un momento
@vague quarry anyways as I was Saying I was actually born with a Mild Autism
Most People don't see it bad but Trust me Autism is really bad
It Screws up your Thought pattern and It Decreases the Communication Levels of People
I think we have a problem on the Canny..., lol
Someone did this: https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/make-vrchat-have-more-doggies
That thing has more than 5 times the upvotes by the same guy than the most upvoted thread actually..
Been taken care of 
anyone just wanna hang
anyone else have had their vrchat sdk delete itself?
That's pretty interesting. Did you forget to save or something? Shouldn't happen
nope it straight up deleted itself after updating the sdk
and yes i did import it correctly
im good here
Did every SDK item in the current scene disappear as well?
@wraith tangle lol hi
Hello, I posted this last night (about the Ricardo avatar, link : https://imgur.com/a/ppbrD3S)
I forgot to say if anyone has the avatar or information about the avatar, please send me a message and let me know.
Thank you 😄
Hi guys. Is anyone planning to buy the Oculus Rift S?
My opinion is that it isn’t really the “best oculus”
The developer I believe said it themself, that it was no upgrade from the last one.
Woah chill, no one was talking about which one's better XD
@meager solstice But yes, It does have some little specific upgrades and you don't need to pay some extra $ for the perfect sensor fix. And it's gonna cost the same as the first one so it's totally worth it for newcomers!
I was wondering if I should replace my old one, but I'm still deciding...
@vocal shard hi
Where do I find the friends list on the mobile version of the site? I found it on desktop, but not on mobile
But it’s not.... if anything it’s a downgrade in every way.... it has a cord an is inside out tracking. The price is 50$ more than the rift. So u r basically paying 50$ for worse tracking. @digital abyss
@limpid raven #vrchat-support
Follow the step where it says to email support then 👀
@vocal shard because they're ran by people on other parts of the planet, feel free to start your own event !
Not with that attitude !
Have you emailed the ssupport Proxy ?
this guy complaining in west coast
cries in european
yeah
Iv given luv 2 the other chats so ❤ yall general chat ^,,^
hi
hey
Yo
Very bad how the dynamic bone limiter is on by default AND not being told about to users in VRC. So many people will miss out and see my stiffness now. And changing the limit isnt user friendly either. It’ll be my mission in VRC forever to tell people about this. T.T/
Can also just optimize your avatars if its so important to you :X
But can vote on the canny.io for them to change where the limiter is announced and ect so its easier for people to find.
How do I request a feature? Would be nice to have VSync for desktop users.
Tired of screen tears.
Force it on your GPU settings
I see a lot of people complaining about the limiter, but I think if you place your bones correctly you won't need more than 32 transforms for your hair or skirt, therefore new users will be able to see your fancy dynamic bones without you having to tell them about the option
can I cry
I have a question. Is a moderator of VRChat using the name VRChat?
I was just in a pug and saw that name
Despacito
It was a new user too and im afraid that the person will get labeled as impersonation
Should i report them?
I have a screenshot
Names are unique, but nothing stops you from naming yourself "VRChat" and then adding an invisible character after that, since unicodes are allowed in names
You should be able to report them in game
They had already left the room
You can report for username I think
I do have a screenshot of their profile.
It's fine then I guess
Should i just send the staff an email?
With the attached image?
Ive never reported anyone so i dont want to mess up
It's probably a valid reason to report them, but I don't think it's a huge problem either. If you have the time you can email the staff
and get myself in trouble
At worst the staff will decide that his name is allowed. Don't worry. There's also #moderation-reports if you don't want to email
That just tells me to email.
Oh, right. Seems they removed the online report form
I'm apparently not up to date lol
!online
There are 7418 users in VRChat currently
hey everyone, im pretty new to vrc, is there anyone who'd like to show me around?
u talking to me wolf?
hello
hi
what would you give vr chat 0/10
9/10
New life/10
I give it a 9 cuz I dont give 10's
9/10 for me
hi
guys what was your weird vrchat encounter?
In harpy canyon Underneath a tree
A disturbing image
tell me
were you a loli by anychance
I was hit on by a dude while his wife was in the room next to him
wtf
i published my world but when i enter it it sends me back to my home ??? help
Check console
im a wakandan knuckles and the community isnt bad we just relax and chat
we dont do anything bad
to anybody and we just spread positivity
lol
Yare Yare
I will always love ugandan knuckles
VRChat on Quest is probably the best thing I've heard all day
..maybe
Yup it depends.
i might get it, just to have VR on the go tbh
I really wonder how they will pull it off
And mainly because we haven't gotten a blog post or anything proper for it
While we know a snapdragon legit can't handle the game in its current state
i hope it does well
I hope the quest version doesn't hold back or strip down the PC version. Won't be happy with that if we go backwards.
but i am also sceptical
Minecraft did it for the phone though.
Untill we get any news im just going to assume it's own server
👋
How long till we see idiots use the quest dangerously
Anyone know if a PTT option for VR users is in the works or not? It’s kinda crazy that desktop users have that option and VR users are stuck with auto.
30 days
What is ptt? @vocal shard
welcome! @vocal shard
@tidal aspen like a day after release...
Driving while playing driving simulator I dont see the danger in that
Wait vrchat will be on quest?
Can it even run on a mobile cpu/gpu? Wow
Minecraft did it for the phone though.
Minecraft also rewrote the entire engine to structure around phones, they didn't down port the game to mobile platforms
Not really
But we haven't gotten any news or explanation beside the bombshell of an announvement
I really do hope we see more ways in which to downscale the game
It would be interesting to see user scalable texture quality and texture filtering
I'm hoping that it's the same servers, but just scaled down specifically for the quest client. They already can replace user's avatars just for your client, this is apparent when you block avatars. Maybe they'll do something similar?
Maybe if avatars are too performance heavy they can get outright blocked
@vocal shard you can try openvr advanced settings's PTT
Thanks Jerome
I assume it’ll just use some built in models
Are you ready for a miracle?
Chairs fixed>
heh tupper's self destructing message
I saw the self-destruct, Tupper.
then i have to kill you
oh shi-
🔫 
i saw tupper , come kill me you wont >:3
🏃
anti self destruct pounce @covert chasm
announcements not loading straight away is normal right?
hi sasaaaa
Tuppperrrrrr

yes, Discord issue with having 60k+ people being push notified all at once
You have to send a message after it for it to work?
What's the Miracle, because I don't have VR.
Tupper, how have you been since you last got sneezed on?

Yay fixes
hello
are you getting kicked from world as well?
i broke my lamp while playing on VR 😄
Oof.. it's why you gotta have things out of the way, just like when you play Wii
Be careful of drinks too when in VR as well lol
one time
Wow I wasnt even gonna mention your story lmfao
Almost broke my computer monitor awhile back
Dirk knocked a giant cup of booze all over his headset and the floor because he had his vr on lol I wont let him have a open glass by the computer anymore because of it
I spilled tea on my impulse once
hi
Hay :3
one of my friends cant see the update anyone know y
restart steam?
there on vr
Oh Oculus store?
did they fix the invite system?
its not there for them
Some people still seem to be having issues with invites
if you're not receiving anything, it's probably best to email support@vrchat.com
ok guys really? really? if ur going to update it make sure u dont break anything with the fixes im really getting tierd of the updates so lets just do 1 update and be done with it
thats why updates come out... to fix the problems not every update is going to be perfect...look at any other game like Apex or even PUBG when it frist came out they broke stuff when the updated sometimes stuff gets broken when an update comes out @shrewd crow
yea but no one wants an update every 24 hours bro thats just annoying
im not botherd by the fixes im bother by the fact that its so frequent
Loads of the problems that showed up on release didnt show up or got reported in the open beta.
And all fixes from today only got really solved yesterday or properly reported enough so the devs knew where to look...
Totally agree its fairly annoying though with how there is no way to tell when your ingame and it happens
Anyone else here having problems with logging into the game? i'm pretty much stuck at the login screen.
@modest saddle Try the steps in #vrchat-support
Tried em already
a lot of issues won't show up if you're only testing with 10-40 players, so they slip through the gaps in beta and get pushed to live
Try restarting your router (and give it a minute before you start it up again)
Hmm i did that as well. Didnt seem to help
oh yea cuz that makes sence if it fixed it for 10 its sure to work with 10,000
cuz thats smart
Then its time to email support@vrchat.com 👀
Ow wait- You by any odds on wifi?
nope ethernet
Nvm then- Time to email ;p
why they keep updating the game so much
because if they didnt people would complain about the stuff thats broken
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/valve_index/
Valve joined the game
valve murdering HTC as their hardware partner
Jaw Flap Blend Shape and Jae Flap Bone is still broken since last patch.
But stations work 🤷
Tried reuploading the avatar and still broken not just on my end, but for everyone else
I've gotten the impression that HTC has possibly been reluctant to pursue the high end/gamer focused VR market, hence their move to develop the Cosmos and commercial offerings instead.
How are they broken ? Is there a canny ? @true sky
Valve obviously has only ever had one audience in mind.
So they've perhaps separated down more specialised paths now.
https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports/p/jaw-flap-blend-shape-visemes-are-broken canny for blend shape
As Orkel 2 said in that post "just the mesh visemes made in Blender."
Some avatars still used it and were setup to use jaw flap bone or just 1 viseme
not going to reupload 100+ avatars again over a bug like lip sync issue
does the dyn bone limit system affect cloth physics somehow?
no
plus i am sure it wouldnt work as you cannot edit cloth in play mode without crashing the editor
cloth is poly based unlike dynamic bone, which is bones that can be disabled easily
If I am blue status, can non friends join on me via searching my name?
so are you saying that you have 100+ avatars with jaw flap set?
oof
Im getting sick of constantly being instablocked and people fuckin, coming up and trying to clap me just cause i use a knuckles avatar
I love knuckles
Im trying to make a group to fix the name of knuckles
it's called "Space-anda" and we've actually done alot of pretty okay things so far
Wasn’t that the wakandian knuckles?
See, they're good but they arent enough
I mean it’s a bit of a dead meme at this point
The group im making is trying to unite all knuckles and other species, in the form of space travel knuckles, who search the galaxies for new things to find, and one of our major rules is "Have fun but dont ruin other people's fun in the process" currently we have support from most of the major factions of knuckles though
Im currently trying to find a nanachi and a birb discord so we can ally them, to destroy the weeb menace (Specifically the mirror ones though, cause they're ruining the point of vrchat imo)
Cause like, what's the point of people making world and stuff if people are just gonna sit in a private room, on the most frequent worlds, it's going to kill the whole point of this game's existance
people goto private worlds because they have huge groups of people
I have no issues with private worlds
the issue i have is nobody taking advantage of this game
and just standing infront of a mirror for hours on end instead of going out and having some fun
for us thats the fun, hanging out with our friends
idk how paying hundreds of dollars, to stand infront of a mirror is considered fun, but okay
you guys just dont have creativity
hanging out with our friends is the fun part of it.
we do more than staring into mirrors, but its a good chunk of it
yea running behind stupid streamers ^^
huh...?
i just want to hang out with my friends and we do that, just happens to be in front of a mirror 🤷
Just to interrupt this pointless conversation.. lol was there an update to vrchat? My game is all zoomed in in my obs game capture now.
Yes
Also stand in front of mirrors if that's what you like doing. We all play differently.
yes it a part of it, but it's a bit sad, the game has more potential
for what do you need the game ? you can talk in discord too
and whats the point of complaining? i can meet new people in VRChat, its more fun in VRChat to do it than in Discord.
theres a physical representation of you that moves with you instead of some image and words in discord.
how you wanna meet new people if you play with your group in privat worlds in front of a mirror?
because i want to hang with my current friends?
maybe thats why im in a private world in a mirror
The complaining is pointless. I go into vrchat every weekend with a goal. The fact that people like chilling with their friends in one map isnt annoying to me.
its not like we isolate ourselves only to private worlds
no point in being a bitch about it
it's ok, we accept your nonexistent creativity
lol ok fuck you, i've already made my own worlds and models
@fleet ice you got a YouTube or something?
you're just being a fucking cunt.
hopefully they'll see how you're just being a fucking cunt 🤷
lel
The best option for this guy is to just block him or something.
Any of you use obs?
i do.
Vr too?
yea
Game capture source on vrchat?
OpenVR
Oof. I hate steamer. Lol
using that plugin captures from your headset.
I might have to use it though.
I hate steamvr* sorry phone autocorrecyed
oof
I dont know why my game capture is so zoomed in this week.
Last week it wasnt this bad.
update probably did it
Oof.
Need more Psychological Horror Maps
Anyone else experiences slow download ehen you download a map
Not really news, but there are multiple developers working full-time on Udon.
this year is pretty exciting so far
!online
There are 9281 users in VRChat currently
Looking for the Creator if the DokiDoki Sayori's Hpuse. Her name is Vixy Vixen... if you see this... please help
What's her discord name
Might be best to do it in the DMs
I don't see a Vixy Vixen in the Gen Chat
So... is the Doki Doki Sayori's House still Under Construction or is there a way to trigger the Hanging/Destroyed Version?
I have about 5 others running around trying to figure out how to get it to work
That wouldn't be allowed in the game. No images or implications of suicide
But there were Screenshots... IN-GAME SCREENSHOTS
If that was the case... better get to it VRC World Deleters... I can name a few
It was probably there, but maybe got reported and removed. Idk
House was Updated... has Interior now
They removed the world for in-game screenshots like those?
I'm in the world now.
It's my Home
That's why I'm trying to get ahold of the Creator
oh my friend had that avatar waaaaay early last year lol
What
for some reason I cant finish/publish my avatar on unity
Are you using the correct Unity Version and SDK
It says I have to play more, but are there requirements?
Yes. You have to be a Known User
?
You also need a VRChat account and after a bit VRChat will notify you In-Game and by Email of you're ability to Upload Custom Worlds and Avatars
how do you be a known user?
Play the game. Interact with people, make friends and have fun.
Basically what one would normally do in VRChat
I did that I played 6hours
You need WAY more hours kid
how much?
Unsure. Depends upon how active you are. As long as you have a VRChat account and keep playing, interacting with people and making memories and friends you'll get it soon
kk thanks
Anytime man. If you ever get bored in VRChat my VRChat name is CrimsonDuckr
I'm offline but if you send a friend request I'll accept it when I'm online. I also have a group that likes to hangout every day so we are always online and ready to have fun
Hello, does anyone here know if user generated world links expire after a duration of time?
@wispy ingot dude Im sending you one friend request
lol
?
@manic crypt they don't expire and will last for as long as the link exists
kekinoomai
Thank you @polar jasper
Is anyone else having voice lag?
vrchat it got it cool and nice people and it very funny and weird people then there the jackasses who are sometimes just so rude they enjoy people in pain or just plain out racist where it isn't even funny type of racism it obvious that there a racist dumbass
I mostly like to stay with 2 other groups
uh?
why are you bringin this topic here when the other channel was talking about the topic
I know a couple desktop users having voice lag, Glitch. Ever since the new update
lmao, how are they going to port it to quest
that is the last thing i expected this year
Does anyone have oculus rift and is willing to help me?
you talking to me???
yeah
u ever get ur problem solved @rustic galleon
Hello.
Heyyo
How are ya
Much better than yesterday. You?
Much better than last night
My highest was 60, alone, at the default home
gpu?
And my average is 25 in any world
Nvidia K1000M
2GB
Not made for this kinda gaming to be honest
How?
i setted all to max prestations
and closed programs
a lot of programs
but when new pepole joined it was 30
You can make a .bat file for closing all non-essential programs
Just fill it with TASKKILL /F /IM processName.exe
Run as admin if you want the /F (force close) to work
well its temporary cuz i am going to replace it w/Gtx 1070
ty
I can still very much recommend killing garbage processes
Yw
I dont even know what that is
full body tracking
hi(?
hai
how are you?
no ;u;
oof
@azure lichen yo what's your favourite world in VRCHAT?
I literally just started yesterday, so far, i've been the most attracted to the default house
mmhk
Great pug best place for fun shit
wow
Yes I agree
the pug is a nice hangout spot
also very laggy
I used Oknuj's sleep world as my home world for a good while, but eventually built my own.
Hyped for valve knuckles
I hope people dont get them assuming a perfect finger ik
Its close to that though from what i have heard and seen
But ig regardless its a step up from vive wands
Oh really? I wssnt sure how vrc was gonna impliment it
Oww- In Vchat? Well nah
Gonna work like its in the video there i guess
Pretty much yea
Itll be the same as with the oculus right?
vrc had a pretty simple implementation from what I remember seeing on twitter, but I doubt they'd keep it that way
Might make it a toggle, atleast that would be dope to have.
it's the video in the twitter link above
The video and full finger tracking
Dunno theyd have to make a new finger ik, but in the video uts delayed and glitchy so idk if they plan to fix that
full finger tracking would be better and feel a lot more responsive than the video showed
I just think it's really cool that you can "let go" in vr with the knuckles
You cant jusf say that, vrchat would have to make a finger ik, we can only guess from what we are shown than more
Well if i recall right IK is going to get a big overhaul next update...
So they can also fix the IK for that at the same time
I think at launch it will just do the gestures, but it would be cool if they implemented the real finger tracking, and just had the gesture animations (like face animations, weapons) trigger when you got within a threshold of the gesture position
Really? I hope so
Im kinda just waiting for the ik without actual hope, I remember when we had it though and it was great
wait
there were network issues with the old IK optimisation or something though
does the vive not do what oculus does for finger and hand tracking already
the knuckles controllers have full finger tracking
Well we went from the current IK to a networking IK. But the load was way to big on there end so they undid it. (also had some kinks for users looking like a slideshow).
But they have been working on getting it back to a network style IK.
As frames will skyrocket once they can get it right
since the last vrchat patch, my controls are all broken
all my other vr games work fine
my character keeps spinning endlessly plus the headset is controlling the aiming instead of the controller half the time
Unplug console controllers and other usb divices you dont need to use

