#vrchat-general-2

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signal sequoia
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!online

floral flaxBOT
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There are 6607 users in VRChat currently

main vigil
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Hi everyone, not sure if this is the correct channel to ask.

I'm looking for an avatar.

I have only seen this avatar twice, so I don't really remember the details of it.

It's kinda like a bookshelf but with a TV in the middle of it, the TV plays video and music (Ricardo's dance video)

The top and the bottom, there are two mini dancing Ricardo

Anyone has any idea of where to get this avatar?

Thank you 😄

covert linden
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Oh ive seen that one xD

main vigil
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@covert linden i ask that guy if i can clone it but he faked that he unfavorite that avatar accidentally ( short story : refuse to let me to clone it )

I really want that avatar, hope someone in here have it / know where to get it

silver forge
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Hello guys. Is it possible to lock PPlayspace mover axis?
I want to move only in Y

upbeat knot
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I heard people are having some issues on the friend invite..

thin wasp
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every time i join The Box I tell myself "okay, maybe it'll be different this time" and every time i am proven Wrong

urban jasper
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I don't think I've ever set foot in the Box

thin wasp
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i regret it every time

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they're either talking abt the weirdest sht or i get lagged out

urban jasper
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I've heard ...stories.

thin wasp
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can confirm

urban jasper
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Yikes.

shrewd crow
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r we still talking about oculus damn this convo started yesterday

thin wasp
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wrong chat buddy, the oculus convo is the next channel up ^

floral aspen
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To be fair it is a pretty big announcement

quartz thicket
fossil flame
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d a m n 🍵

spare sluice
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How's VRChat?

vocal shard
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Garbage.

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This new update is horrible.

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If they wanted to upset people and lose members they did the right thing by limiting breaking dynamic bones instead of dealing with real issues like finding new ways to stop people from crashing others and servers.

opaque hawk
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Love it, being able to choose to not see dynamic bones is a god send

stoic halo
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you can enable them. @𝒯𝒽𝑒 𝒲𝒽𝒾𝓉𝑒 𝑅𝒶𝒷𝒷𝒾𝓉#6561

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oh, idiot lol.

safe prism
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dynamic bones are the most expensive things on avatars

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._.

opaque hawk
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Kind of wish some of the bugs were caught before the official push, but I know the devs are hard at work fixing them. They already fixed quite a few bugs

safe prism
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usually

stoic halo
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i have no fps issues with dynamic bones for the most part unless someone has a stupid ass amount of them

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like one model with like 3k on their tail

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like why the fuck.

umbral reef
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Yea but then its one avatar ruining your frames
What if its 20 avatars all doing it a tiny bit?

stoic halo
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not too much of a problem for the most part

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not going to be a straight 90

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but i wont be blasting 30fps.

umbral reef
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90FPS is the norm really though...
The experience becomes leaps better with it

stoic halo
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right but in VRChat 90 fps its generally hard to get in large groups or lots of worlds.

umbral reef
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It was not before dynamic bones and cloth became normal 👀

covert linden
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I get 30fps with vr

stoic halo
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tbh the game ran worse before that in my experience.

umbral reef
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Pre user boom the game ran smooth for me
Then the user boom happened and i pretty much never hit that 90 FPS in popular rooms
After upgrading my PC i got a proper 90 FPS again so

tidal aspen
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From my experience the FPS was fine before the boom, then they added cameras and performance started to tank

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got better recently

stoic halo
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i would say it was the worlds being unoptimized generally then for me

umbral reef
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But it for sure makes a difference still...
At best you should be arguing about how the dynamic bone button placement is dumb
It should be in the settings and not hidden in the TRUST ranking menu...

stoic halo
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Big Al's avatar corridor is a big one to note

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that lagged like fucking death

umbral reef
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Its not a trust system its a performance system...

covert linden
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I agree oclac

tidal aspen
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Oh yeah that was when the avatars were loaded instead of images

umbral reef
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And they should not have released it without being able to edit it ingame...

tidal aspen
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that was pretty bad

stoic halo
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you can edit it in game wut

umbral reef
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The value's?

covert linden
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Yeah

stoic halo
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was about to say unless tahts only for enabling and disabling

covert linden
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My friend adjusted the values to 100 and something

tidal aspen
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you need to edit a file

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you can't do in in-app

stoic halo
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no you dont

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you can adjust in the menu

covert linden
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Dunno how he did it I didnt ask

umbral reef
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You need to edit a file for that outside of the game.
Same goes for the particle limiter...

Turning it on and off works ingame

stoic halo
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thats big gay.

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imagine how VRChat will run on the quest.

tidal aspen
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we're talking about the dyn bone limiter right? You can only change a file

umbral reef
covert linden
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The default should be off imo, Or, a popup when you see it for the first time

umbral reef
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Thats not how any other game or settings normally work

languid beacon
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“Vrchat used to run smoothly” yeah we didn’t have people with 30 material, 1k collision checks and proud of it

covert linden
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All my friends were freaking out like help myhair isnt moving and I was like here do it like this

umbral reef
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Just make a 'performance' tab or throw it in the settings menu

languid beacon
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The people with insanely laggy avatars tend to be the same ones complaining they are always “getting crashed”

covert linden
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Thatd work

stoic halo
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meanwhile here i am with basic models that arent laggy getting poor performance because of something that doesn't even effect anything

umbral reef
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What something* then?

still lark
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You wanna elaborate what that something is @stoic halo?

umbral reef
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Because wanna bet it does in a way but just not loads like dynamic bones or cloth 👀

stoic halo
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dont remember what it was for my older models.

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my current one is eh, 95 transforms and 18 components and that's all that is red.

still lark
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huehuehue

tidal aspen
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each component has an overhead

stoic halo
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my old Hoppou was 21 materials

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which made it Poor

covert linden
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Thats a lot of materiald

stoic halo
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dont remember what they were for tbh

covert linden
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I have 3

stoic halo
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my Nier model is "VERY POOR" because 71k polys

tidal aspen
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You honestly don't need more than 5 unless you have some weird effect setup

stoic halo
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my hoppou had a thing going on with circuits on the body

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and the scouter on it

covert linden
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One for the panties, one for the face, andd one for the atlas. The only reason theyre seperate is because unity was making my panties make bad shaped.. suggestive.. because of some broken map, and the panties broke the face

umbral reef
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Well Thats fairly dumb indeed but they need to make a limit somewhere for the poly count-
And decimating it and extra 1k isnt hard for almost any model. I still have to find one myself that doenst look good with 70K flat.

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And no- You cant have had it before the change happened. Atleast you cant argue that because you where hacking the game then. So that falls flat. (And it would have been really unoptimized then so...)

stoic halo
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wut

covert linden
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71k is above the limit

still lark
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Fun fact, bypassing their restrictions is against the TOS.

stoic halo
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oh lol. 🤷 not like i use it anymore anyways

covert linden
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I have to adjust the arm length of my model by a lot and im like... thats gonna suck xD was given a good tutorial though

stoic halo
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all i gotta really see is that theres lots of public models in public worlds running 90k polys and nothing being done

umbral reef
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Report them and they will take actions

stoic halo
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the world got taken down before and it's back up again before the test labs so idk about that really

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was taken down because of massive animations or something

languid beacon
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Having the stat profiler report more than 70K does not mean any rules were broken. You could have just profiles it while they had a prop active

stoic halo
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probably the staff on the model if anything, thats the only other polygonal object on the model besides the model itself.

languid beacon
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Now you have custom animations blocked and you profile more than 70k yea send a report

stoic halo
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i dont really see the point in reporting over polygons tbh when they are minimal to the performance

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meanwhile 300000 dynamic bone tail over there dropping my FPS down by 50 frames.

covert linden
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theres a fluffy shader that can do that easy

languid beacon
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It’s not reporting over polygons so much as reporting modded client/sdk

covert linden
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go face to face with it and its basically a crasher

stoic halo
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i could care less if someone modded their SDK

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its not harming me or anyone unlike a client could

languid beacon
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I disagree but you don’t have to report anyone. I’m still gonna encourage people to though

dusty otter
stoic halo
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i dont really know where the hate came from since then. i remember everyone and their mother modding the sdk because of the 20k limit being terrible 🤷

covert linden
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Because 70k is more than enough

stoic halo
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polys dont cause lag as much as anyone thinks tbh

rigid crescent
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Even if we had concrete proof that, for example, 200k was totally fine and added zero lag, but the limit was still 70k, it doesn't matter because it's still a rule and you look fine with less than that. People are just lazy so I report on principal tbh

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Like just decimate it. If you can't, learn. Don't be fucking lazy.

stoic halo
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it seems like just silly micromanagement to me honestly

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limit shaders, dynamic bones etc. that does the real performance damage.

rigid crescent
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Limit shaders how

languid beacon
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Or maybe don’t mod the SDK if you don’t want to get reported

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You are free to do what you want.

stoic halo
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im not good enough to explain how to limit shaders since i dont work around that.

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ive yet to see anyone be reported for polys tbh

rigid crescent
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A hard limit on DB actually has an effect on creativity while s poly linit really doesn't unless you're just dumb. Their goal is to minimize the effect they have on people's ability to create

languid beacon
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There is no hard limit on dynamic bones. People were just given the option to limit them, if they wish.

stoic halo
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right, but polys do so little i could give less of a damn about how many you have

rigid crescent
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A 200k model and a 70k model can look exactly the same when done right or at least not discernably different unless you actually try to find differences. A model with a ton of DB and a model with next to none do have a difference

languid beacon
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Ironically if people were simply given the option to turn them off entirely, there wouldn’t be as big of a freak out. But now we got on or limited, which is less strict, and people complain. Makes no sense.

stoic halo
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people are complaining because of how it was implemented

median basalt
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The 70k poly limit is carefully crafted

stoic halo
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remember the 20k limit tanabae

rigid crescent
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Anyone complaining about the DB limiter outside of it being not super user friendly is an idiot of the highest order

median basalt
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The dynamic bone limit is stupid because it's clearly not finished, it should not have been on by default. There is no indication that it's on so #user-support-old was filled with "why are my dynamic bones not working?"

stoic halo
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that was a joke of a limit

median basalt
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It's tucked away in some corner that not many people will look at

vocal shard
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Ree how dare you report a 1.7 million poly model

rigid crescent
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And no people complain because they think it's a hard limit and are just stupid. I see it once every few hours here

median basalt
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They just want to test their websockets and threw in the limiter to "satisfy" people

covert linden
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It was the first thing I looked for, because im already in this discord but it wasnt where I expected it

stoic halo
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I've not seen any model higher than 100k polys tbh

rigid crescent
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The "masses" aren't really complaining about it's implementation being poor they think it's something that isn't.

median basalt
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Well considering the limits are not editable ingame and are on by default, it's quite close to a "hard limit". Just like how you're "technically" not hard-limited on custom shaders as a New User, but nobody will see your shaders anyway. Same end result.

covert linden
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@vocal shard how dare you have a model witth more polys than I have skin cells

vocal shard
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You have trillions relax

umbral reef
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I Legit havent found anyone who doesnt think the particle limiter should get a ingame settings option and menu
And that the dbone stuff should also be places more logically in there

rigid crescent
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Also the patch notes clearly indicate it's in. Current users have no excuse

median basalt
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I mean yeah technically new users can use whatever shader they like, but let's not pretend that they aren't being limited in any way

covert linden
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I never have safety on eep

rigid crescent
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But future users will have trouble

median basalt
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The patch notes are only really visible in Discord and on the site

languid beacon
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Oh no anything only editable in a text file needs to stop I’m in agreement there

rigid crescent
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And on steam

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And on Oculus store I'm guessing

median basalt
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Oh yeah, it's on Steam at least

rigid crescent
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You know, the place most launch the game from every single day?

umbral reef
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@rigid crescent I dont read patchnotes for 99% of the games i play, but even then.
The game doesnt announce a version has changed when you start it up. How would i ever find out unless im in here?

rigid crescent
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It's their own fault for not seeing it. Like I said though, future users will have trouble.

median basalt
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The fact that the values are editable via text file pretty much gives them an excuse to never make them editable ingame.

Friendly reminder, voice prioritization is still broken and we still can't hear jack shit in crowded instances.

umbral reef
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Inside steam? I havent touched steam for over 3 weeks by now thanks to shortcuts lol

rigid crescent
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So for a year+ you did?

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So you know they're there?

covert linden
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I never noticed voice prioritization till I got vr..now hearing people is horrid

umbral reef
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The steam updates notes? Because of other games yes (facotrio mainly... )

median basalt
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Not to mention that most people launch it from the SteamVR overlay which isn't quite user friendly. The point is, there is no indicator that it's there and that's a bad thing. Stop trying to excuse their mess of a UI

umbral reef
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But i learn more about patches and updates from games thanks to the home menu from discord then the game itself lol

rigid crescent
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I agree they should add it ingame via notifications but it's still plenty clear.

umbral reef
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Unless the game makes it clear things changed on start up

median basalt
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I have issues distinguishing voice and I have pretty much stopped playing for the past few weeks because of the voice prioritization issue. I can't fucking hear anyone and keep having to gesture at people to follow me away from the crowd. It fucking sucks.

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A social game where you can't socialize is literally worthless

stoic halo
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right i didn't realize they added the limiter so i was scouring the menu to see if they added an option for it

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no notification for it unless i check notes

languid beacon
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But I agree with the limit or being on by default. It’s not like dynamic bones are entirely off by default if you use them how vrc wants you to they will work

covert linden
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I knew because I always read the logs

stoic halo
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i come home and get on vr

umbral reef
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Its in the safety menu...
Last time i checked safety isnt caused by turning off dbones 👀

stoic halo
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not scour documents tbh for features or things idc about

umbral reef
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With that logic the setting where people get close and vanish should also be included there

stoic halo
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only time i check patch notes is for fighting games

rigid crescent
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It's still a game, an ever-changing one. To not read patch notes is your own fault honestly.

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They're available at least 4 places 2 of which being the place people launch the game.

umbral reef
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Most users are not power users mic...
You need to feed them te information for them to realize it

stoic halo
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right

rigid crescent
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Power users? Its in big bold letters under "play"

umbral reef
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Its why loads of mobile games force patch notes on start up
Or make you even press the new buttons

stoic halo
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i just goto the game, not read forums for it or documents

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patch notes tend to be things i dont even notice or care for

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so what's the point of reading them tbh

rigid crescent
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...

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That's honestly unlikely.

median basalt
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Blame the users all you want, but the fact that this issue comes up so often is plain evidence that they did something wrong when informing people.

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You can't just say "well those users are idiots!" when talking about UX

umbral reef
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Also as a side note- They forgot to update the photo of the loading menu
The 'Performance options' button isnt even there...

median basalt
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The loading screen behind you hasn't gotten the UI rework

umbral reef
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UX is meant to protect dumb users.

median basalt
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The buttons are all in the old style when you look behind while loading

stoic halo
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really?

median basalt
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Yeah, go look

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The button behind you has the old texture on it lmao

stoic halo
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wait there's a button behind me

median basalt
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Yeah, they mirrored the loading screen behind you a while back

stoic halo
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the fuck i never knew

median basalt
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But when they redesigned the UI this never came up

umbral reef
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Tbh the menu really needs to get some new names for things...
Having personal space be in settings under 'Comfort and Safety' is odd when we got a Safety menu with sub menu of 'Performance options'...

median basalt
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I'm not even reporting this, I'm just gonna add it to the list of issues that we can all laugh at two years from now

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The UI is a mess but they literally said they weren't gonna implement certain features due to lack of UI space lol

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Like cameras in the safety system

umbral reef
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Also lmao- never even realized as i never play desktop but why does the menu fade?

tacit plank
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surely they can make the window wider?

median basalt
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Lol yes they could, the real answer is laziness as always IMO

tacit plank
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Or maybe scale it with your avatar

median basalt
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The icons are gigantic

umbral reef
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Why isnt it snappy >:L
I want my snappy menu's! Not slowly fading into the next one and having to watch it all show up even though its already loaded...

stoic halo
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me me like big button unga

tacit plank
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I really hate fade

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It makes things feel unresponsive

umbral reef
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Well yea- Its bad UX design to not have things be instantly responsive

stoic halo
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tbh i never even processed the fact it fades

tacit plank
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First thing I do when I get firefox is to make fullscreen instant, instead of that 'laggy' opening/closing animation

umbral reef
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Oddly enough some things within the menu are snappy and feel nice to click while others dont...

vale frost
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humm why do they have almost 2000 open un responded Canny reports , when you say open a Canny report it really feels like they are saying they just don't care and say shut up or open a Canny , they ask did you open a canny report you say yes and they must be laughing at this point

median basalt
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Oh yeah, and disable smooth scroll in Firefox too

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Look, votes on your canny don't matter. The custom humanoid animator canny has hundreds of votes but not even "under review"

tacit plank
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Things should do what they're told and when they're told so. They shouldn't look fancy, the user doesn't want to look at them anyways. It's all about speed

umbral reef
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👀

tacit plank
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If there's shortcuts to do something, most people just press those without looking

stoic halo
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how will vrchat even run on the quest tbh

umbral reef
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Not

stoic halo
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im like so curious to see it

umbral reef
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It has to be on its own special thingy
Or ruin the game for quest users

tacit plank
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Every avatar replaced by a random default avatar scaled to that players size, and every shader attempting to fallback to default?

umbral reef
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Well the shader thing has to happen with the Snapdragon... As it cant render any shader at all beside some basic ones really

tacit plank
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TBH a lot of shaders are bad performance-wise

umbral reef
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Same that loads of light options just flat out wont work on that

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Also cant have too many polygons at once- and ect

tacit plank
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It's hard to find any material on shader optimization though

languid beacon
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Gonna disagree a little I think the menus are the perfect size, I find most games menu text is far too small and I need my headset perfectly in the sweet spot to read things and even then I gotta squint

umbral reef
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I can go on explaining this.
But its tech talk and i cba to explain why the things im saying are the way they are so ima just keep quiet

tacit plank
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"Avoid branching" "Calculate everything above the per-pixel shader" just those two

stoic halo
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just don't use shaders 4head easy optimization

umbral reef
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There is more then one extreme hurdle the team has for the quest
They have it more tough then Recroom for sure

tacit plank
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Custom worlds with 4K textures and 5 maps per object?

languid beacon
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You can branch as long as it’s deterministic

tacit plank
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Ah, right. that uses special flags though right? Like IF_SHADOWS or something

stoic halo
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its just surprising and funny seeing the memes about vrchat and the quest

covert linden
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Agreed

languid beacon
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You have to garunteed the same code path is taken down your code forks. Like, don’t make a frand and then if it down one path or another

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UpVote for every issue then filter email by dev names

desert stratus
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im gonna make a "welcome quest users!" world

languid beacon
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Chances are quest users are gonna be in their own server

desert stratus
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its just gonna be optimized spawn (literally a 1kmx1km floor with a button mirror) with the words "welcome quest users!" if the vrc team actually somehow manages to pull of crossplay

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lol, thats if crossplay even happens tho...

languid beacon
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I hope there is crossplay

golden bluff
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PC players could probably join quest servers

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Hopefully

desert stratus
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^ you have a good point

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that would be exciting - occasionally popping in with mystical tech like dynamic bones

languid beacon
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I feel like vrchat didn’t even want to announce it yet, but the quest trailer dropped a picture of Ava for a s plot second so they are like whoop guess cats out of the bag

golden bluff
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Feel like Quest content will be separate and PC players can join Quest servers

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My prediction anyways

vocal shard
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it would be neat if they could play on the same servers, but avatars are replace unless they are quest approved. or something like that so they aren't completely locked out

median basalt
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@tacit plank shaders rarely matter for optimization

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Although keywords are an issue regarding shaders.

golden bluff
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Worlds would also be a issue

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We would need Quest approved worlds

median basalt
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The stuff that lags most is fur shaders, multipass shaders (rarely seen), grabpasses and stuff like starnest

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Single-pass shaders are almost always comparable in performance

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I profiled a lot of them

languid beacon
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If you can join quest “servers” then I’m sure you can’t bring your avatar. They’d need to manually green-light it or have it pass some mobile-friendly metric

median basalt
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I will personally make lag-free doofenshmirtz work even if I need to give it Legacy/Vertex Lit shaders

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Which one? You mean XSFur?

languid beacon
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Yeah

median basalt
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As far as shaders go it is very laggy, yes. It's a geometry shader.

tacit plank
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Some users use a popular shader which is really laggy

median basalt
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On a related note, there is one exception to the single pass shaders and that's Cubed's

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Cubed's is three times as heavy as anything else I have profiled. Non-Lite Cubed's, that is.

tacit plank
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I remember changing to it after putting it on 3 textures and dropping 10 fps

median basalt
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It's a geometry shader

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Non-Lite Cubed's should honestly be removed entirely

tacit plank
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It's not. It's a semi-common cartoon shader with rimlight support

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I think it might be arktoon, but not 100% sure

languid beacon
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And guess which shader is most poplar with the lazy mmd conversation crowd that always has 30 materials and 1k dynamic checks?

tacit plank
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Why are these shaders so big anyways? It's like 10 lines to make a flat lit shader

median basalt
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Because it's not that simple

tacit plank
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Somebody should compile a list of shaders and their performance or something. I'm off to bed now

rigid crescent
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I think Poiyomi made one

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list i mean

median basalt
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I really don't like the idea of selling shaders to be honest

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Or people who sell prefabs

rigid crescent
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I mean that's basically how markets work

median basalt
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World creators are all banding together and made all kinds of Discords and shit, but avatar creators only wanna sell shit and stuff

rigid crescent
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if there were more experienced/higher quality and reliable people doing it at a lower price, the prices would be lower

median basalt
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I think the world creator community is very much a closed hivemind though

rigid crescent
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"Artificial" wa

median basalt
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Very elitist and will ban you for being banned on the VRC Discord etc.

rigid crescent
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What...

stoic halo
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psa i dont like streamers

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ecksdee

rigid crescent
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psa generalizations are silly tanabae

steep turret
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ah cliques. high school all over again

rigid crescent
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You mean, life, right?

steep turret
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no I meant what I said. read my words mic smh

rigid crescent
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If the creator is popular due to making a streamer's avatar, then it kinda makes sense they'd raise price. demand for their avatars goes up

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it's not really artificial

opaque hawk
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I wonder how many avatar worlds credit the original creators of the avatars or parts they use.

stoic halo
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0

steep turret
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probably a few if none

rigid crescent
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Next to none, but there's also next to none that claim to have handmade the parts as well.

steep turret
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"i made this avatar" slaps an mmd shirt on an already made avatar

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bless

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that's true, lol

rigid crescent
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I don't think "most" think it gives them copyright, they just think it means they made it. If they thought they had copyright there would be way more false suits in this game

stoic halo
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ive been in the world creator meets before

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super laggy

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bad game vrchat

rigid crescent
#

well a bunch of people in any world is gonna be laggy lol

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til spicy networked IK ❤

opaque hawk
#

It does get super laggy. Wip worlds generally aren’t done with optimizations

stoic halo
#

tfw 50 unoptimized models in one world

covert linden
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ive never seen a world with 50 people in it but ok

stoic halo
#

join events

rigid crescent
#

you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between 50 optimized models and 50 unoptimized avatars lol

stoic halo
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they get so laggy lmao

covert linden
#

oh events yeah I can see that

rigid crescent
#

at that point the IK is just shredding your CPU into confetti

languid beacon
#

I want a flat lit shader that obeys light direction based on camera angle. So if you are looking at the side that would be lit by a light; the whole avatar is brighter.

opaque hawk
#

Last week I showcased a world. Had the default real-time light from a new project. Got super laggy just from that. It was very unfortunate

languid beacon
#

Default unity project lighting isn’t really laggy for me though

median basalt
#

It's realtime directional with shadows

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It's pretty laggy. Turning shadows off helps a little bit though.

languid beacon
#

Oof. I love worlds with player shadows

worn rampart
#

please everyone 😢 If you've had a bad experience in VRChat due to another user acting maliciously, report them to the Moderation Team. Please really do this. Its how we help creators be fairly rewarded for their VAST EFFORTS making worlds and avatars, and will keep vrchat alive and well. If one keeps stealing avatars to mod them, or bits of worlds to make their own, that will scare away the high quality experienced creators and just make a lot of people sad. ❤

#

put money in the things you believe in and enjoy, buy assets from creators. buy 3d models from 3d model publishers and creators. you will probably have a job making 3d models one day too, and you want to get paid for what you do. you don't want to waste all your energy 😦

vocal shard
#

Yeah there's no way they can patch cache ripping

worn rampart
#

but, people have feelings and feeling receptors

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if we talk about it, that can change minds 😃 I am an old lady. I KNOW THIS IS TRUE 😄

covert linden
#

omg

worn rampart
#

you are logical types

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try to believe in the goodness of people, in the good possibility of change

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be the change you wish to see in the world

vocal shard
#

full of rippers, script kiddies, so basically VRChat is one big Highschool.

worn rampart
#

if you want others to be good, be good yourself, and talk about whats good its reALLY WORKS

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it is one big highschool but we gotta be the adults and teachers elders when we can, just talk about it more everyone. talk about how much it hurts when all your hard work is stolen

steep turret
#

vrchat the high school

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lemme be that edgy kid who sits on the roof and smokes

worn rampart
#

my god especially if you're disabled like me and every precious bit of energy spent on something...is precious

vocal shard
#

lmao

steep turret
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actually I'd be a teacher fuck abort ABORT

worn rampart
#

;"( children please try to learn empathy

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i'm sorry your parents spoiled you

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i'm sorry you grew up on ritalin

vocal shard
#

my parents didn't spoil me...

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

worn rampart
#

😛

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yeah some parents are terrible

covert linden
#

Whyre u acting entitled

worn rampart
#

and you wanna be edgy to get the anger out

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i said one possibility

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there is so much to say

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so many different types of people

covert linden
#

:Questioning Misaka:

worn rampart
#

if parents are terrible yo uwanna take out anger on vrchat too i understand

vocal shard
#

Well not EVERYONE is a emo Justin Bieber lover from 2011

worn rampart
#

like i'm not sarcastic or angry, i am speaking in a caring voice i mean no offense

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i am way older than that

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haha

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me no likey bieber

vocal shard
#

Okay, Age doesn't have to do with someone's personality.

worn rampart
#

not everyone is a murderous war hungry fall out fan either

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bieber doesn't have to do with someone's personality either 😛

umbral reef
#

@brisk bone Making it imposible VS making it so hard its not worth for most people to do it tho--

worn rampart
#

anyway everyone, just like remember....if you really love an avatar, think of the creators heart...and how if you BUY their avatar, you ARE WAY MORE LIKELY to see MORE of THEIR AWESOME AVATAR CREATIONS available 😄 tata ❤

covert linden
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Evwry time I paid for an avatar it had problems

worn rampart
#

that's only your experience

covert linden
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Was easier to teach it to myaelf and do a better job

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And thats how I got a bf so I mean

worn rampart
#

every time i buy em they are perfect because I know where and how to look

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and ask creators questions before you buy

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like what the poly count is

covert linden
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Or just make theem

worn rampart
#

and if they merged together seperate models or not, or maede it one cleanly made mesh model

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sure make your own from scratch or assets you bought

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please

vocal shard
#

tbh i encode my name into my textures on my avatar, so whoever steels it welp they wouldn't know.

umbral reef
#

Tbh- If you know to ask those questions big odds are you can do it yourself...

worn rampart
#

that's gtood the sorrow

covert linden
#

So youre talking ahout commissioning things from scratch not mmd?

umbral reef
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@brisk bone With the last update loads of cheat programs got bricked again

worn rampart
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there is ALWAYS a way. like its that we need to SOCIALLIZE n vrCHAT up peoples HEARTS. srsly. tell em the repercusions with EMOTION in your voice like a pernt, and they will learn

umbral reef
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Its about making it harder to do
Not making it impossible as THAT isnt realistic and cant be done

worn rampart
#

*parent

covert linden
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When youre telling people to.commission theyre gonna get mmd models commissioned. @worn rampart

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Not from scratch most of the time

worn rampart
#

yeah lets just do all we can to make it better thats all that helps that counts 😄 😄 😄

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rae i don't know what mmd is

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but BUYING assets will help YOU have a job if you become a 3d modeler

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and is just right

covert linden
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99% of vrchatz avatars are mmd

vocal shard
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^

worn rampart
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but i understand that when you are alow income you need to just learn, and corow things someties and don't resell them for profit and thats ok

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or take credit for others creations

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lets just all do whats right

umbral reef
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Its a model type-
And most commisions in VRchat are hardcore copying and sealing works. They get payed to do the labor to get it working but they do not make most of the content.

worn rampart
#

covert linden
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Meaning anime, theyre all anime bases peoplw dont own and throw things on for free, And sell them, so unless you are getting it from scratch this is how.most people make em

vocal shard
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back that up Rae it's 90%, most people I see now is either from fortnite or a kermit

delicate perch
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is there a way to change the idle animation? cause my avatar seems to default back out of the over ride im using

worn rampart
#

oclac i think i get it but i am happy i think? me has brain injury and me too tired to understand anymore

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good talk everybody 😄

covert linden
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@vocal shard back it up? Look at any vrchat video

worn rampart
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have a good day ta ta now srsly

vocal shard
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lol good point

umbral reef
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Implying fornite avatars are still self made...

covert linden
#

Edcuate yourself before telling peeople to spend money on avatars that technically they dont own lol

umbral reef
#

Those are even more against the law then mmd models lmao

delicate perch
#

lawl, "I bought this avatar that was stolen, so its now my personal avatar and asset"

covert linden
#

^ exactly

delicate perch
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@brisk bone mine are all hand made from cubes

covert linden
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Its why ill never sell my modeels lol theyre just me rigging, thatd be liike paying for.me to.colour someone elses art

delicate perch
#

but hey, thats cool, i always love being ignored for making my own avatars

steep turret
#

👍

covert linden
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Ok you dont make up the majority Max

delicate perch
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anyways

covert linden
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You are not te majoritt of people wwho sell avatars sorry to break the news but

umbral reef
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Boycot Subcom for stealing models btw

vocal shard
#

that conversation with her was almost as stupid as seeing someone asking if VRChat was on PS4

delicate perch
#

tbh i dont really care about being famous or even well known, i just like making my own to push the limits of what i can make, i love to surprise myself

covert linden
#

Everyone is aware some people do things from scrarch, nobody says not a single person does, just most dont

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My model is justt rigged and the weighpainting I had to redo do to some problems, but it aint my model

delicate perch
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i should i guess make a few of my models public, but i really dont want to >.>

covert linden
#

There was a chunk of my hair literally weighpainted to a not existant bone

delicate perch
#

maybe im greedy that way

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here, imma make a deal, when i die, you can have my stuff

covert linden
#

Yeah I agree Fez

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Imo 100$ is WAY too much to just rig or recolour, but nobody listens lol

delicate perch
#

naw, 1,000 to 2,000 is WAY to much for ANY virtual item

covert linden
#

I might as well colour oger top of someone elses art and sell it for 100$

delicate perch
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#FKPlagurism

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#.FKOrignalContentCreators

supple blaze
#

The question with those ranges is time and quality

covert linden
#

If they make it from scratch thats a lot of 3d anatomy study erc so I get it

supple blaze
#

3d modeing from scratch for a high quality model can be very time consuming, especially if normals and sculpting were involved

delicate perch
#

tbh, making a model from scratch isnt all that hard, most of your time would go to sculpting and texturing and perfect rigging

covert linden
#

It is a lot

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You have to have a goood grasp on 3d dimensions and generally human anatomy

delicate perch
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i guess, but i can usually pump out a model if asked inna day

covert linden
#

And my human anatomy skills only currently are good enough for my 2d art, not 3d

delicate perch
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yeah, i suck at 2d but rock with 3d, trade?

supple blaze
#

I made my avatar in a day, but mine wasnt all that detailed. It really depends on what quality you are getting

covert linden
#

Mind if I see?

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And no im2d animating a movie lol I need my skills

delicate perch
#

ah well

supple blaze
#

Mine, or were you asking about something else?

delicate perch
#

shrugs

covert linden
#

Maxs

supple blaze
#

a

delicate perch
#

see whats?

covert linden
#

I can see yours yoo

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Models

delicate perch
#

ah

tidal aspen
#

yeah there's a difference from selling stuff you made from scratch vs selling stuff you found on deviantart and mashed together

delicate perch
dry star
#

kinda random.. but I keep going to @frosty dome 's airbnb world to listen to the awesome music... tho I was wondering if anyone by chance knows what music is playing in the world because despite attempting shazam, and dming nomic I've no luck finding out

covert linden
#

Ah ok, have you studied anatomy max? Looks like you have based on your models

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Pretty good

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Better than I can do to say the least xD

delicate perch
#

mhmm, yeah, and how canines lower legs and paws work so my hands are more paw like since imma fox

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a pooch i think its called?

covert linden
#

I 100% am with u on your thoughts Fez

stoic halo
#

my friend says vrchat is hella laggy thonk

floral aspen
#

does your friend have good specs?

ruby burrow
#

VR-Chat is one of the only games where replying "No u", to someone complaining about the game being laggy, can potentially make sense.

queen mango
#

Sometimes, it work. Sometimes it just works

ruby burrow
#

Not that I do.

languid beacon
#

“Vrchat is always so laggy” well, y’know, you’re the avatar that’s always in every room that you are in.

stoic halo
#

mind blown

languid beacon
#

Try a less than 70k poly avatar :p

ornate finch
#

my 1.4m isn't that bad okay

tulip light
#

How would avatars work on Quest?

queen mango
#

o.o
We still don't have much of an idea about it.
One can only assume..

carmine nebula
#

Are invites still not working..?

ruby needle
#

@tulip light according to pill "It just works"

umbral reef
#

Same that my school is working ou

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It really isnt but everyone claims it is

carmine nebula
#

Really a bad time for faulty stuff to not work 🙃

wind torrent
#

There's some DaddyDuckle guy shouting out people's IPs and where they're from

#

He's also acting kinda racist

queen mango
#

Witch hunting isn't condoned here. (Output log helps the case, if you happen to be in the session he's in)

weary bison
#

the name you see also isn't super reliable

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if you're sending an email, it helps to include your output log

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so the exact user can be easily pinpointed by the staff

wind torrent
#

Alright

orchid lance
#

I'm ok with people who use their crazy effect models but when their doing it in areas where people are relaxing and they are doing to be annoying fuck them or if their wacky effects is annoying or someone having a fucking seizure don't do it mostly if someone having a fucking seizure!

unkempt terrace
#

Not to be rude or anything, but if you're prone to seizures you shouldn't be playing VRChat or you'll have to have all avatars disabled permanently. There's no way you can play without coming across that sort of thing unless you turn safety settings to max and even then it's very risky.

ruby needle
#

while that is true, there always is a first time and that can be in VRC.

woven tundra
#

Has anyone seen a world that has a claptrap model or could help me find one online thats rigged?

steep turret
#

un momento

trail bane
#

@vague quarry anyways as I was Saying I was actually born with a Mild Autism

#

Most People don't see it bad but Trust me Autism is really bad

#

It Screws up your Thought pattern and It Decreases the Communication Levels of People

heavy bridge
#

I think we have a problem on the Canny..., lol

queen mango
#

As a catboy, I take offense

#

Still upvotes because dogs are cute

heavy bridge
#

That thing has more than 5 times the upvotes by the same guy than the most upvoted thread actually..

true sky
#

@queen mango has 2.6k upvotes in 3 hours

#

🤔

queen mango
#

Suspicious..

#

If you check the list, it's all bot accounts

true sky
#

ik

#

wish there was a report button in canny

#

but since its dogs, oh well

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

vocal shard
#

Been taken care of TohruThumbsUp

vocal shard
#

anyone just wanna hang

wraith tangle
#

anyone else have had their vrchat sdk delete itself?

tacit plank
#

That's pretty interesting. Did you forget to save or something? Shouldn't happen

wraith tangle
#

nope it straight up deleted itself after updating the sdk

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and yes i did import it correctly

vocal shard
#

im good here

tacit plank
#

Did every SDK item in the current scene disappear as well?

vocal shard
#

@wraith tangle lol hi

main vigil
#

Hello, I posted this last night (about the Ricardo avatar, link : https://imgur.com/a/ppbrD3S)

I forgot to say if anyone has the avatar or information about the avatar, please send me a message and let me know.

Thank you 😄

digital abyss
#

Hi guys. Is anyone planning to buy the Oculus Rift S?

meager solstice
#

My opinion is that it isn’t really the “best oculus”

empty wharf
#

The developer I believe said it themself, that it was no upgrade from the last one.

digital abyss
#

Woah chill, no one was talking about which one's better XD

#

@meager solstice But yes, It does have some little specific upgrades and you don't need to pay some extra $ for the perfect sensor fix. And it's gonna cost the same as the first one so it's totally worth it for newcomers!

#

I was wondering if I should replace my old one, but I'm still deciding...

wraith tangle
#

@vocal shard hi

idle hawk
#

Where do I find the friends list on the mobile version of the site? I found it on desktop, but not on mobile

meager solstice
#

But it’s not.... if anything it’s a downgrade in every way.... it has a cord an is inside out tracking. The price is 50$ more than the rift. So u r basically paying 50$ for worse tracking. @digital abyss

modern sand
umbral reef
#

Follow the step where it says to email support then 👀

modern sand
#

@vocal shard because they're ran by people on other parts of the planet, feel free to start your own event !

#

Not with that attitude !

#

Have you emailed the ssupport Proxy ?

inner cape
#

this guy complaining in west coast

modern sand
#

cries in european

inner cape
#

yeah

umbral reef
#

Sad EU hours

#

Even the events in eu times are bad for me 😂

lethal summit
#

vrchat down?

#

cant seem to log in.in to vrchat for some reason

reef flame
#

Iv given luv 2 the other chats so ❤ yall general chat ^,,^

vocal shard
#

hi

sonic relic
#

hey

reef flame
#

Yo

mental shuttle
#

Very bad how the dynamic bone limiter is on by default AND not being told about to users in VRC. So many people will miss out and see my stiffness now. And changing the limit isnt user friendly either. It’ll be my mission in VRC forever to tell people about this. T.T/

umbral reef
#

Can also just optimize your avatars if its so important to you :X
But can vote on the canny.io for them to change where the limiter is announced and ect so its easier for people to find.

viral knoll
#

How do I request a feature? Would be nice to have VSync for desktop users.

#

Tired of screen tears.

tacit plank
#

Force it on your GPU settings

pastel galleon
#

I see a lot of people complaining about the limiter, but I think if you place your bones correctly you won't need more than 32 transforms for your hair or skirt, therefore new users will be able to see your fancy dynamic bones without you having to tell them about the option

versed belfry
#

can I cry

neon vine
#

I have a question. Is a moderator of VRChat using the name VRChat?

#

I was just in a pug and saw that name

thick belfry
#

Despacito

tacit plank
#

Names are not unique. Well, not in practice anyways

#

It's most likely not staff

neon vine
#

It was a new user too and im afraid that the person will get labeled as impersonation

#

Should i report them?

#

I have a screenshot

tacit plank
#

Names are unique, but nothing stops you from naming yourself "VRChat" and then adding an invisible character after that, since unicodes are allowed in names

neon vine
#

Ah I see.

#

So what do i do? just leave it be?

tacit plank
#

You should be able to report them in game

neon vine
#

They had already left the room

tacit plank
#

You can report for username I think

neon vine
#

I do have a screenshot of their profile.

tacit plank
#

It's fine then I guess

neon vine
#

Should i just send the staff an email?

#

With the attached image?

#

Ive never reported anyone so i dont want to mess up

tacit plank
#

It's probably a valid reason to report them, but I don't think it's a huge problem either. If you have the time you can email the staff

neon vine
#

and get myself in trouble

tacit plank
#

At worst the staff will decide that his name is allowed. Don't worry. There's also #moderation-reports if you don't want to email

neon vine
#

That just tells me to email.

tacit plank
#

Oh, right. Seems they removed the online report form

#

I'm apparently not up to date lol

neon vine
#

Okay

#

its alright I appreciate your help

sonic verge
#

!online

floral flaxBOT
#

There are 7418 users in VRChat currently

vocal shard
#

hey everyone, im pretty new to vrc, is there anyone who'd like to show me around?

sonic relic
#

sure thing

#

hello

vocal shard
#

u talking to me wolf?

sonic relic
#

what

#

uh, fi you find a bird names wolflife, then iots me, if not then no

vocal shard
#

hello

sonic relic
#

hi

vocal shard
#

what would you give vr chat 0/10

sonic relic
#

9/10

covert linden
#

New life/10

sonic relic
#

I give it a 9 cuz I dont give 10's

trail bane
#

9/10 for me

gleaming arrow
#

hi

orchid lance
#

guys what was your weird vrchat encounter?

trail bane
#

In harpy canyon Underneath a tree

orchid lance
#

what happen

#

did you get fucked by harpies?

trail bane
#

A disturbing image

orchid lance
#

tell me

trail bane
#

It was a man with this funny look

#

but his eyes were wide open

orchid lance
#

were you a loli by anychance

opaque hawk
#

I was hit on by a dude while his wife was in the room next to him

sonic relic
#

wtf

left berry
#

i published my world but when i enter it it sends me back to my home ??? help

opaque hawk
#

Check console

left berry
#

nothing wrong there

#

a few errors

orchid lance
#

I hate seeing uganda knuckles in vrchat

#

like come on no one going to like you do

left berry
#

im a wakandan knuckles and the community isnt bad we just relax and chat

#

we dont do anything bad

#

to anybody and we just spread positivity

gleaming arrow
#

lol

thick belfry
#

Yare Yare

broken delta
#

I will always love ugandan knuckles

vocal shard
#

VRChat on Quest is probably the best thing I've heard all day

covert linden
#

..maybe

lunar shell
#

Yup it depends.

undone cobalt
#

i might get it, just to have VR on the go tbh

umbral reef
#

I really wonder how they will pull it off

#

And mainly because we haven't gotten a blog post or anything proper for it
While we know a snapdragon legit can't handle the game in its current state

undone cobalt
#

i hope it does well

lunar shell
#

I hope the quest version doesn't hold back or strip down the PC version. Won't be happy with that if we go backwards.

undone cobalt
#

but i am also sceptical

lunar shell
#

Minecraft did it for the phone though.

umbral reef
#

Untill we get any news im just going to assume it's own server

vocal shard
#

Hello

#

I'm new to this server

lunar shell
#

👋

tidal aspen
#

How long till we see idiots use the quest dangerously

vocal shard
#

Anyone know if a PTT option for VR users is in the works or not? It’s kinda crazy that desktop users have that option and VR users are stuck with auto.

#

30 days

meager solstice
#

What is ptt? @vocal shard

undone cobalt
#

welcome! @vocal shard

meager solstice
#

Oh wait nm

#

Ptt = push to talk

umbral reef
#

@tidal aspen like a day after release...

covert linden
#

Driving while playing driving simulator I dont see the danger in that

hidden lake
#

Wait vrchat will be on quest?

#

Can it even run on a mobile cpu/gpu? Wow

#

Minecraft did it for the phone though.
Minecraft also rewrote the entire engine to structure around phones, they didn't down port the game to mobile platforms

umbral reef
#

Not really
But we haven't gotten any news or explanation beside the bombshell of an announvement

hidden lake
#

I really do hope we see more ways in which to downscale the game

#

It would be interesting to see user scalable texture quality and texture filtering

vocal shard
#

I'm hoping that it's the same servers, but just scaled down specifically for the quest client. They already can replace user's avatars just for your client, this is apparent when you block avatars. Maybe they'll do something similar?

hidden lake
#

Maybe if avatars are too performance heavy they can get outright blocked

safe prism
#

@vocal shard you can try openvr advanced settings's PTT

vocal shard
#

Thanks Jerome

meager solstice
#

I assume it’ll just use some built in models

north axle
#

Are you ready for a miracle?

vocal shard
#

Reee

#

Sure?

scenic beacon
#

Chairs fixed>

vocal shard
#

self destruct oof

polar bone
#

heh tupper's self destructing message

prisma plover
#

I saw the self-destruct, Tupper.

covert chasm
#

then i have to kill you

polar bone
#

oh shi-

covert chasm
#

🔫 cirAYAYA

vocal shard
#

i saw tupper , come kill me you wont >:3

prisma plover
#

🏃

solid fiber
#

anti self destruct pounce @covert chasm

viscid seal
#

announcements not loading straight away is normal right?

covert chasm
#

hi sasaaaa

covert linden
#

Tuppperrrrrr

solid fiber
covert chasm
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yes, Discord issue with having 60k+ people being push notified all at once

polar bone
#

You have to send a message after it for it to work?

vocal shard
#

What's the Miracle, because I don't have VR.

viscid seal
#

oooh i see

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XD

covert linden
#

Tupper, how have you been since you last got sneezed on?

vocal shard
#

Tupper still owes me a hug after last time

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👁

marble pollen
opaque hawk
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Yay fixes

frigid jay
#

hello

harsh cove
#

are you getting kicked from world as well?

white lichen
#

i broke my lamp while playing on VR 😄

queen mango
#

Oof.. it's why you gotta have things out of the way, just like when you play Wii

compact pendant
#

Be careful of drinks too when in VR as well lol

steep turret
#

one time

compact pendant
#

Wow I wasnt even gonna mention your story lmfao

opaque hawk
#

Almost broke my computer monitor awhile back

compact pendant
#

Dirk knocked a giant cup of booze all over his headset and the floor because he had his vr on lol I wont let him have a open glass by the computer anymore because of it

opaque hawk
#

I spilled tea on my impulse once

wise cliff
#

hi

vocal shard
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Hay :3

agile ledge
#

one of my friends cant see the update anyone know y

broken nymph
#

restart steam?

agile ledge
#

there on vr

broken nymph
#

Oh Oculus store?

twilit hull
#

did they fix the invite system?

agile ledge
#

its not there for them

weary bison
#

Some people still seem to be having issues with invites

shrewd crow
#

ok guys really? really? if ur going to update it make sure u dont break anything with the fixes im really getting tierd of the updates so lets just do 1 update and be done with it

stray quartz
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thats why updates come out... to fix the problems not every update is going to be perfect...look at any other game like Apex or even PUBG when it frist came out they broke stuff when the updated sometimes stuff gets broken when an update comes out @shrewd crow

shrewd crow
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yea but no one wants an update every 24 hours bro thats just annoying

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im not botherd by the fixes im bother by the fact that its so frequent

umbral reef
#

Loads of the problems that showed up on release didnt show up or got reported in the open beta.
And all fixes from today only got really solved yesterday or properly reported enough so the devs knew where to look...

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Totally agree its fairly annoying though with how there is no way to tell when your ingame and it happens

modest saddle
#

Anyone else here having problems with logging into the game? i'm pretty much stuck at the login screen.

umbral reef
modest saddle
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Tried em already

weary bison
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a lot of issues won't show up if you're only testing with 10-40 players, so they slip through the gaps in beta and get pushed to live

umbral reef
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Try restarting your router (and give it a minute before you start it up again)

modest saddle
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Hmm i did that as well. Didnt seem to help

shrewd crow
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oh yea cuz that makes sence if it fixed it for 10 its sure to work with 10,000

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cuz thats smart

umbral reef
modest saddle
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I can log into desktop mode for some reason though

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yeah i was gonna do that next

umbral reef
#

Ow wait- You by any odds on wifi?

modest saddle
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nope ethernet

umbral reef
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Nvm then- Time to email ;p

modest saddle
#

also didnt have this issue before with 700+ h

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yee. thx anyways 👌

vocal shard
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why they keep updating the game so much

stray quartz
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because if they didnt people would complain about the stuff thats broken

fallow trench
safe prism
#

valve murdering HTC as their hardware partner

true sky
#

Jaw Flap Blend Shape and Jae Flap Bone is still broken since last patch.

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But stations work 🤷

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Tried reuploading the avatar and still broken not just on my end, but for everyone else

ruby burrow
#

I've gotten the impression that HTC has possibly been reluctant to pursue the high end/gamer focused VR market, hence their move to develop the Cosmos and commercial offerings instead.

modern sand
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How are they broken ? Is there a canny ? @true sky

ruby burrow
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Valve obviously has only ever had one audience in mind.

true sky
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same occurs with jaw flap blend shape

vocal shard
#

why would you want jaw flap anyways?

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🤔

ruby burrow
#

So they've perhaps separated down more specialised paths now.

true sky
vocal shard
#

As Orkel 2 said in that post "just the mesh visemes made in Blender."

true sky
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Some avatars still used it and were setup to use jaw flap bone or just 1 viseme

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not going to reupload 100+ avatars again over a bug like lip sync issue

full iron
#

does the dyn bone limit system affect cloth physics somehow?

true sky
#

no

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plus i am sure it wouldnt work as you cannot edit cloth in play mode without crashing the editor

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cloth is poly based unlike dynamic bone, which is bones that can be disabled easily

languid beacon
#

If I am blue status, can non friends join on me via searching my name?

vocal shard
#

so are you saying that you have 100+ avatars with jaw flap set?

stoic halo
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im so sad my friends got married

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and i missed it by like 2 minutes

vocal shard
#

oof

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Im getting sick of constantly being instablocked and people fuckin, coming up and trying to clap me just cause i use a knuckles avatar

covert linden
#

I love knuckles

stoic halo
#

the woes of using knuckles

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i tend to block Knuckles too

vocal shard
#

Im trying to make a group to fix the name of knuckles

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it's called "Space-anda" and we've actually done alot of pretty okay things so far

meager solstice
#

Wasn’t that the wakandian knuckles?

vocal shard
#

See, they're good but they arent enough

meager solstice
#

I mean it’s a bit of a dead meme at this point

vocal shard
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The group im making is trying to unite all knuckles and other species, in the form of space travel knuckles, who search the galaxies for new things to find, and one of our major rules is "Have fun but dont ruin other people's fun in the process" currently we have support from most of the major factions of knuckles though

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Im currently trying to find a nanachi and a birb discord so we can ally them, to destroy the weeb menace (Specifically the mirror ones though, cause they're ruining the point of vrchat imo)

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Cause like, what's the point of people making world and stuff if people are just gonna sit in a private room, on the most frequent worlds, it's going to kill the whole point of this game's existance

stoic halo
#

people goto private worlds because they have huge groups of people

vocal shard
#

I have no issues with private worlds

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the issue i have is nobody taking advantage of this game

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and just standing infront of a mirror for hours on end instead of going out and having some fun

stoic halo
#

for us thats the fun, hanging out with our friends

vocal shard
#

idk how paying hundreds of dollars, to stand infront of a mirror is considered fun, but okay

fleet ice
#

you guys just dont have creativity

stoic halo
#

hanging out with our friends is the fun part of it.

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we do more than staring into mirrors, but its a good chunk of it

fleet ice
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yea running behind stupid streamers ^^

stoic halo
#

huh...?

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i just want to hang out with my friends and we do that, just happens to be in front of a mirror 🤷

iron thunder
#

Just to interrupt this pointless conversation.. lol was there an update to vrchat? My game is all zoomed in in my obs game capture now.

vocal shard
#

Yes

iron thunder
#

Also stand in front of mirrors if that's what you like doing. We all play differently.

fleet ice
#

yes it a part of it, but it's a bit sad, the game has more potential

stoic halo
#

i dont see it being sad.

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im doing what the game was intended for. chatting lol

fleet ice
#

for what do you need the game ? you can talk in discord too

stoic halo
#

and whats the point of complaining? i can meet new people in VRChat, its more fun in VRChat to do it than in Discord.

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theres a physical representation of you that moves with you instead of some image and words in discord.

fleet ice
#

how you wanna meet new people if you play with your group in privat worlds in front of a mirror?

stoic halo
#

because i want to hang with my current friends?

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maybe thats why im in a private world in a mirror

iron thunder
#

The complaining is pointless. I go into vrchat every weekend with a goal. The fact that people like chilling with their friends in one map isnt annoying to me.

stoic halo
#

its not like we isolate ourselves only to private worlds

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no point in being a bitch about it

fleet ice
#

it's ok, we accept your nonexistent creativity

stoic halo
#

lol ok fuck you, i've already made my own worlds and models

iron thunder
#

@fleet ice you got a YouTube or something?

stoic halo
#

you're just being a fucking cunt.

fleet ice
#

youtube?

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and nice insults btw, i hope the mod will see it

stoic halo
#

hopefully they'll see how you're just being a fucking cunt 🤷

fleet ice
#

lel

iron thunder
#

The best option for this guy is to just block him or something.

#

Any of you use obs?

stoic halo
#

i do.

iron thunder
#

Vr too?

stoic halo
#

yea

iron thunder
#

Game capture source on vrchat?

stoic halo
#

OpenVR

iron thunder
#

Oof. I hate steamer. Lol

stoic halo
#

using that plugin captures from your headset.

iron thunder
#

I might have to use it though.

stoic halo
#

i record, not stream.

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the OpenVR plugin for OBS lets you record from your headset.

iron thunder
#

I hate steamvr* sorry phone autocorrecyed

stoic halo
#

oof

iron thunder
#

I dont know why my game capture is so zoomed in this week.

stoic halo
#

cause you're recording the game window

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which is more zoomed in than the headset.

iron thunder
#

Last week it wasnt this bad.

stoic halo
#

update probably did it

iron thunder
#

Oof.

plucky fractal
#

hol

uncut trail
#

Need more Psychological Horror Maps

vagrant juniper
#

Anyone else experiences slow download ehen you download a map

upper fox
#

need more TTT-type maps

#

any udon news?

weary bison
#

Not really news, but there are multiple developers working full-time on Udon.

#

this year is pretty exciting so far

rough flax
#

!online

floral flaxBOT
#

There are 9281 users in VRChat currently

delicate perch
#

#MakeVRChatOnCryEngine

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!offline

wispy ingot
#

Looking for the Creator if the DokiDoki Sayori's Hpuse. Her name is Vixy Vixen... if you see this... please help

true sky
#

???

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she is in the discord, just shoot a dm to her if she has dms on

wispy ingot
#

What's her discord name

queen mango
#

Might be best to do it in the DMs

wispy ingot
#

I don't see a Vixy Vixen in the Gen Chat

true sky
#

@sacred kayak or @vocal shard 🤷

#

try one of the two as i dont know

wispy ingot
#

So... is the Doki Doki Sayori's House still Under Construction or is there a way to trigger the Hanging/Destroyed Version?

#

I have about 5 others running around trying to figure out how to get it to work

vocal shard
#

That wouldn't be allowed in the game. No images or implications of suicide

wispy ingot
#

But there were Screenshots... IN-GAME SCREENSHOTS

#

If that was the case... better get to it VRC World Deleters... I can name a few

vocal shard
#

It was probably there, but maybe got reported and removed. Idk

wispy ingot
#

House was Updated... has Interior now

queen mango
#

They removed the world for in-game screenshots like those?

wispy ingot
#

I'm in the world now.

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It's my Home

#

That's why I'm trying to get ahold of the Creator

rigid crescent
#

oh my friend had that avatar waaaaay early last year lol

vocal shard
#

ummm

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people?

wispy ingot
#

What

vocal shard
#

for some reason I cant finish/publish my avatar on unity

wispy ingot
#

Are you using the correct Unity Version and SDK

vocal shard
#

It says I have to play more, but are there requirements?

wispy ingot
#

Yes. You have to be a Known User

vocal shard
#

?

wispy ingot
#

You also need a VRChat account and after a bit VRChat will notify you In-Game and by Email of you're ability to Upload Custom Worlds and Avatars

vocal shard
#

how do you be a known user?

wispy ingot
#

Play the game. Interact with people, make friends and have fun.

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Basically what one would normally do in VRChat

vocal shard
#

I did that I played 6hours

wispy ingot
#

You need WAY more hours kid

vocal shard
#

how much?

wispy ingot
#

Unsure. Depends upon how active you are. As long as you have a VRChat account and keep playing, interacting with people and making memories and friends you'll get it soon

vocal shard
#

kk thanks

wispy ingot
#

Make sure to log in as your VRChat account btw

#

That makes it easier

vocal shard
#

kk

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thanks dude

wispy ingot
#

Anytime man. If you ever get bored in VRChat my VRChat name is CrimsonDuckr

#

I'm offline but if you send a friend request I'll accept it when I'm online. I also have a group that likes to hangout every day so we are always online and ready to have fun

manic crypt
#

Hello, does anyone here know if user generated world links expire after a duration of time?

vocal shard
#

@wispy ingot dude Im sending you one friend request

next trench
#

lol

vocal shard
#

?

polar jasper
#

@manic crypt they don't expire and will last for as long as the link exists

next trench
#

kekinoomai

manic crypt
#

Thank you @polar jasper

spring vine
#

Is anyone else having voice lag?

orchid lance
#

vrchat it got it cool and nice people and it very funny and weird people then there the jackasses who are sometimes just so rude they enjoy people in pain or just plain out racist where it isn't even funny type of racism it obvious that there a racist dumbass

#

I mostly like to stay with 2 other groups

spring vine
#

uh?

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why are you bringin this topic here when the other channel was talking about the topic

vocal shard
#

I know a couple desktop users having voice lag, Glitch. Ever since the new update

vocal shard
#

lmao, how are they going to port it to quest

#

that is the last thing i expected this year

rustic galleon
#

Does anyone have oculus rift and is willing to help me?

vocal shard
#

it is server problems

#

otherwise, check if you have firmware updates

rustic galleon
#

you talking to me???

vocal shard
#

yeah

meager solstice
#

u ever get ur problem solved @rustic galleon

azure lichen
#

Hello.

marsh basin
#

Heyyo

azure lichen
#

How are ya

marsh basin
#

Much better than yesterday. You?

azure lichen
#

Much better than last night

plush cove
#

ok so my highest fps on vrchat its 82

#

in multiplayer

#

and jeez its fun

azure lichen
#

My highest was 60, alone, at the default home

plush cove
#

gpu?

azure lichen
#

And my average is 25 in any world

#

Nvidia K1000M

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2GB

#

Not made for this kinda gaming to be honest

plush cove
#

nvidia geforce 315 2GB

#

i tewaked some settings

azure lichen
#

How?

plush cove
#

i setted all to max prestations

#

and closed programs

#

a lot of programs

#

but when new pepole joined it was 30

tacit plank
#

You can make a .bat file for closing all non-essential programs

#

Just fill it with TASKKILL /F /IM processName.exe
Run as admin if you want the /F (force close) to work

plush cove
#

well its temporary cuz i am going to replace it w/Gtx 1070

azure lichen
#

Oh

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Good luck man

plush cove
#

ty

tacit plank
#

I can still very much recommend killing garbage processes

plush cove
#

and i did

#

like dropbox, ACC, Gamebar

azure lichen
#

Yw

plush cove
#

bay de wei

#

fbt is cool i want to try it

#

for the guys that have fbt how is it?

azure lichen
#

I dont even know what that is

plush cove
#

full body tracking

hearty tusk
#

hi(?

plush cove
#

hai

hearty tusk
#

how are you?

plush cove
#

fine

#

do u have VR?

hearty tusk
#

no ;u;

plush cove
#

oof

marsh basin
#

@azure lichen yo what's your favourite world in VRCHAT?

azure lichen
#

I literally just started yesterday, so far, i've been the most attracted to the default house

plush cove
#

mmhk

tidal tiger
#

Great pug best place for fun shit

vocal shard
#

wow

cold ibex
#

Yes I agree

urban jasper
#

the pug is a nice hangout spot

stoic halo
#

also very laggy

ruby burrow
#

I used Oknuj's sleep world as my home world for a good while, but eventually built my own.

alpine crater
vocal shard
#

Hyped for valve knuckles

covert linden
#

I hope people dont get them assuming a perfect finger ik

umbral reef
#

Its close to that though from what i have heard and seen

covert linden
#

But ig regardless its a step up from vive wands

#

Oh really? I wssnt sure how vrc was gonna impliment it

umbral reef
#

Oww- In Vchat? Well nah

alpine crater
#

it should be a huge step up from wands

#

especially the terrible trackpads

umbral reef
#

Gonna work like its in the video there i guess

polar jasper
#

Pretty much yea

covert linden
#

Itll be the same as with the oculus right?

tidal aspen
#

vrc had a pretty simple implementation from what I remember seeing on twitter, but I doubt they'd keep it that way

umbral reef
#

Might make it a toggle, atleast that would be dope to have.

alpine crater
#

it's the video in the twitter link above

umbral reef
#

The video and full finger tracking

covert linden
#

Dunno theyd have to make a new finger ik, but in the video uts delayed and glitchy so idk if they plan to fix that

alpine crater
#

full finger tracking would be better and feel a lot more responsive than the video showed

tidal aspen
#

I just think it's really cool that you can "let go" in vr with the knuckles

covert linden
#

You cant jusf say that, vrchat would have to make a finger ik, we can only guess from what we are shown than more

umbral reef
#

Well if i recall right IK is going to get a big overhaul next update...

#

So they can also fix the IK for that at the same time

vocal shard
#

I think at launch it will just do the gestures, but it would be cool if they implemented the real finger tracking, and just had the gesture animations (like face animations, weapons) trigger when you got within a threshold of the gesture position

covert linden
#

Really? I hope so

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Im kinda just waiting for the ik without actual hope, I remember when we had it though and it was great

vital spoke
#

wait

alpine crater
#

there were network issues with the old IK optimisation or something though

vital spoke
#

does the vive not do what oculus does for finger and hand tracking already

alpine crater
#

no

#

the wands are just that, big controllers that are tracked

vital spoke
#

oh damn

#

so they are like PSVR controllers basically

alpine crater
#

the knuckles controllers have full finger tracking

umbral reef
#

Well we went from the current IK to a networking IK. But the load was way to big on there end so they undid it. (also had some kinks for users looking like a slideshow).
But they have been working on getting it back to a network style IK.

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As frames will skyrocket once they can get it right

vocal shard
#

since the last vrchat patch, my controls are all broken

#

all my other vr games work fine

#

my character keeps spinning endlessly plus the headset is controlling the aiming instead of the controller half the time

umbral reef
#

Unplug console controllers and other usb divices you dont need to use